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[quasi nova]

got 4.9k maneuv

[tranquil adder]

but my exotic, with only 2800+, has a speed display of 450 when flying on planet

[vital pelican]

maneuv ≠ speed in most cases

[quasi nova]

reaching 500+ in atmos

anyway it's just a number

[tranquil adder]

what kind of ship? and do u have photonix core?

[vital pelican]

my interceptor has 3.4k maneuv, but can get up to 650u/s

[quasi nova]

interceptor, and yes

[dreamy crypt]

Yeah. Stats dont mean nada most cases other than jump range

[quasi nova]

mine is made for turning speed, not pure speed XD

[tranquil adder]

i think the numerical speed display when flying on planets is kinda off, and depends on the planet too (the closer to the sea level u are, the lower ur speed)

[quasi nova]

if i go all out on speed (but turning become shit) i can reach 600+

[quasi nova]

yea because friction

airless planets don't do that

[tranquil adder]

friction and grav pull too, yea, at least in theory. but in practice the flight model in nms is not so nuanced i think

[quasi nova]

well it is

i remeber getting high up (not in space yet) just to travel faster

[tranquil adder]

in any event, once i raced a friend on a planet, i used my speediest ship while he used his unupgraded hauler, and although he couldnt catch up to me, while i could overcome him, the actual speed difference was much, much lower than what you'd expect judging from the numbers

[quasi nova]

yup

because maneuv is speed/turning radius/boost power/Acceleration

[tranquil adder]

so what i believe is happening, is that there is a speed cap that is not reflected in the numerical speed

and past that threshold it is only ur turning speed that improves

[quasi nova]

you can go faster, but it's harder and harder

[tranquil adder]

in my experience it does relate to speed too, but only up to a point

[quasi nova]

the module placement change that too

[tranquil adder]

yea, its either a hard cap or a soft one (diminishing results)

[vital pelican]

yeah definitely

a unit in general makes no sense

[quasi nova]

anyway even if the speeder is meant to be faster in atmos, a good interceptor is faster

[vital pelican]

if a unit is a meter, then the fastest possible ships in the game are slower than commercial jets

[quasi nova]

it's not meters XD

it depend even if you're on the ground or not

[tranquil adder]

yeah, interceptors seem to be the best all-around, at least for combat, save for their big size and their shield recharge consumables stacking only up to 10 instead of 200

[quasi nova]

i saw someone trying to calculate the distance and speed in km/h and it was either super slow or insanely fast

[quasi nova]

shield recharge? pfffff

use phase beam with the upgrade

never run out of shield

[tranquil adder]

while not needed vs sentinels and pirates, against a good player it might define the outcome of the battle

[vital pelican]

oh this could be good

[tranquil adder]

not sure if phase beam recharges shields in pvp, but even if it does, 200 vs 10 is a great difference

[quasi nova]

i always forgot that game is multiplayer 💀

[vital pelican]

i can make a ship with T SC slot pattern

[quasi nova]

i can leech the shields of my squadron

[vital pelican]

phase beam? i just have 6849 shield batteries.

[quasi nova]

parts?

[tranquil adder]

my own ship that got featured in yesterdays hero2u video is T slot and reached 3140.8 manuever 😄

[quasi nova]

not bad

i saw it

[quasi nova]

that's a find, make a post to share it with the galaxy/coord

[vital pelican]

will do

[tranquil adder]

if u want i can send it to hero2u too, but he also looks here on his own

its a great ship! and i know many who love this cockpit

[vital pelican]

my favourite is the speeder, but i haven't got 4 adjacent on that one yet

[quasi nova]

well the needle nose pairs badly with the heavy side imo

but still a nice find

[tranquil adder]

i really recommend u make a nice post with glyphs and everything, will make other ppl happy!

[vital pelican]

one second

uhh

[tranquil adder]

take 2 😛 there's no rush

[vital pelican]

is there an official name for the T pattern

[quasi nova]

T pattern

[tranquil adder]

i call it T, others Tetris T block 😛

[quasi nova]

yr'oue welcome

[tranquil adder]

pics speak for themselves though

if u find it easier, follow the template of my own post, just replacing the info

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[vital pelican]

S class, T shape Adjacent 4 SC slot custom fighter in Euclid (glyphs in screenshot)

Parts: Needle Fuselage, S-Class Reactor, Hardframe S-Wings (Fin), Mono-Thruster

there we go

i'm gonna make it and try it out now

[tranquil adder]

excellent 😄

my only edit would be to include the word "custom" right in the topic

so that its extra noticeable that this is a custom ship

[vital pelican]

done :)

[tranquil adder]

perfect 😆

[loud knoll]

spent 2 hours looking for fan wing

[vital pelican]

yeah that's some pretty good damage

a cool 138k dps

[tame patio]

how to get a ship code ?

[vital pelican]

what do you mean?

Highest maneuv on this thing so far is 2.6k

[tranquil adder]

to get highest maneuver u also need the system with polo+artemis+3 trails

like this:

[vital pelican]

I just don't want to do more nexus missions honestly 😭

[tranquil adder]

all trails work the same, even the basic ones

[vital pelican]

wait, how are those layed out?

[tranquil adder]

polo in middle, 3 trails + artemis adjacent to him

[vital pelican]

I have 4 trails and polo, just not artemis

[tranquil adder]

i use 4 trails but i think it maxes at 3

[vital pelican]

ah okay

[tranquil adder]

well, artemis does provide adjacency for polo

[vital pelican]

what's the pulse engine layout there?

i'm trying to optimise this one

[tranquil adder]

without her i drop to 3091.2

[tranquil adder]

its a tetris block like urs

[vital pelican]

what if you move the trail down by one?

I managed to get to 2.8k maneuv

[vital pelican]

which upgrades are which?

[tranquil adder]

for some reason i get 0.2 more maneuver by mixing an s class with the x class

despite the s class only having a max maneuver of +18%

and of the x class, one is 19% and the other 20%

[covert matrix]

Fighter with biiiiig engine... Chrome/orange with teal accents, Euclid. Found as C-class. Comms station and save point next to it.

[vital pelican]

out of curiousity, how are you arranging your launch thruster upgrades?

i can't get this fighter to be very fast

[hearty flax]

I have a few fan wings/fan type wings, are you looking for the normal one? Or a suped up one? I'm at work for another 7-8 hours, but I could try and help you when I get home.

[vital pelican]

tops out at about 500u/s

[tranquil adder]

in this model i had to arrange the launch thruster and its mods into a line. its not the end of the world to lose some adjacencies for thrusters imo

and btw 500u/s are by no means slow

[mellow sage]

oh yeah what does u stand for

[tranquil adder]

unit

i usually test maneuverability roughly by how well i can strafe around an object in space while keeping my head on it

[mellow sage]

thats sorta bruh

"my house is 500 dollars away" XD

[tranquil adder]

yea well, there is no accurate correlation between nms units and our own terran metrics (feet, meters etc) of space

at least not to my knowledge

but they still provide a way of comparison between them, i.e. 500u/s > 350u/s

[vital pelican]

470u/s to be precise

[tranquil adder]

in my experience this can vary from planet to planet, but id roughly say its quite fast

[vital pelican]

my interceptor gets >600u/s

[hearty flax]

Is that with SC pulse engine upgrades?

[vital pelican]

yep

[karmic steeple]

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[vital pelican]

currently it goes at 630u/s

but i think you can arrange it to get 650

i just forgot how 💀

it's a really weird one, because the sc slots aren't adjacent

only two of them are

[vital pelican]

i just want pure speed

[tranquil adder]

yea when it comes to sc optimization, u can never really be sure u're done until u try everything and switch it with everything else! s/x class mods go into 3 sc ofc, but the rest is a matter of trial

[west bough]

Woo! Just got my first dreadnaught, it was S class on the first try 😄

[wooden harness]

nice

they seem to be more common in S-class since I got mine second try

[gusty oak]

Found this neat thing :D

[chrome fable]

That's not stat display being off. You genuinely fly slower at lower altitude.

[abstract geyser]

what class

[chrome fable]

Everyone knows you fly a lot faster in space, but there's differences even in atmosphere.

[chrome fable]

Missing anything in the front slot, reroll

[vital pelican]

that might've been me

i did an entire reddit thread on that one

[compact maple]

Can anyone share a Fighter Afterburner wing location?

[tranquil adder]

yea i know that's by design, but i was referring to the fact that the actual speed difference (in mp) is not nearly what the numbers would imply between 2 different ships

[mellow sage]

what do you mean?

[quasi nova]

barely over 3k bouuuu XD

[quasi nova]

oh, probably, well it was some really nice work ^^

iam launch the game and start flexing my interceptor

[tranquil adder]

for a non sentinel/solar and without photonix core, u cant get much better than that to my knowledge

[quasi nova]

i know, i was jocking ^^

reaching 3k on a "basic" ship is super hard

[tranquil adder]

yea, its the highest i ever got (not counting solars and interceptors)

[chrome fable]

Just joking. The only slot that explorer doesn't have filled is front (spectrometer or turret)

[quasi nova]

solars have a bonus tec so they are cheating XD

[tranquil adder]

yea, but interceptors also get cheaty maneuver rating

dunno how they get that extra 1k, they dont seem that much more agile

[quasi nova]

due to speed yea :/

if you really want to do some stunt, get an exotic

[tranquil adder]

at least their turning speed is not like 1k more than fighters or exotic

[mellow sage]

wha

[tranquil adder]

i do, i main a guppy 😄 but this new custom fighter makes even tightier turns, esp when using free look momentarily

[quasi nova]

i will send you a pic of my guppy

[tranquil adder]

and i to u 😄

[quasi nova]

i think it's ** normal ** to have a tech inventory looking like that

[chrome fable]

Honestly I genuinely don't see a point. AI ships can barely outtturn you even if you're in a hauler.

[quasi nova]

big numbers go BRRRRR

[chrome fable]

Speed is good yeah

Turning? Eh.

[tranquil adder]

my guppy 😄

[quasi nova]

ima send pics of : my best find, my interceptor and my guppy

[quasi nova]

basicaly my guppy

[tranquil adder]

i must say, what i miss more on my new fighter is the guppy shielding

the fighter has like 320

[chrome fable]

It is nice

[quasi nova]

shield is overrated anyway

[karmic steeple]

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[tranquil adder]

but the guppy also has double hyper range and consumes less % with each warp

also cheaper launch costs but oh well

[chrome fable]

Tbh guppies have what, 6 different parts? One per slot? And 8 color palettes?

[mellow sage]

explain pls? explorers only have the two wings and body

[quasi nova]

guppy is a kind of exotic

[tranquil adder]

10 different colors: 5 basic with silver lining and another 5 with golden lining

they may have the different mosquito tail, or the wings that fold above

[quasi nova]

exotic are either :
Guppy (no nose/top fin)
Royal (big nose and small topfin)
Mosquito (thin nose and big top fin)
Squid (unique model)

[tranquil adder]

and the color of their side weapons differ

ah ok, i thought dragonfly tail would still make it a guppy

albeit a different kind of guppy

[chrome fable]

Internally, ships have a lot more slots than the game implies. What's shown as the "body" of an explorer is iirc 6 slots - body itself, front center, front sides, and 3 slots of winglets.

[quasi nova]

nop,, the name come from the front, the wiings/motors dosen't count in

tbh i think guppy and royal are the best exotics

[tranquil adder]

i c

[quasi nova]

but mosquito can be very good looking

[tranquil adder]

for me guppies r the best ships overall. smallest size among their type too

[quasi nova]

i have a nice red mosquite, mhhhh, mama

[quasi nova]

B A L L

[tranquil adder]

only u-ships (rasa+droid) r smaller

[mellow sage]

is the spectrometer the weird plates?

[quasi nova]

nop, the bean is smaller

[tranquil adder]

they get the ball rolling man 😄

bean?

[quasi nova]

interceptor with no parts

can spawn naturaly and litteraly look like a bean

[tranquil adder]

u sure they r smaller? i think they r way taller

ive seen some, yea

[chrome fable]

No, that's the side parts. There's also occasionally a front center part

[quasi nova]

well, when landed maybe, but while flying, nop

[mellow sage]

hm hm i need to pay more attention i guess

[tranquil adder]

ah right, they retract their legs, u must b right

[chrome fable]

I mean, idk. Haulers can get pretty smol

[quasi nova]

exotics have very small landing gear

like fighters

[tranquil adder]

haulers can feel small if u r godzilla

[quasi nova]

interceptor are meant to be way bigger, so hence the hight difference XD

i've found a nice hauler once, i think it's as big as it can be

very long and wide

[tranquil adder]

the biggest is the one with the boxes, no?

[quasi nova]

btw i just threw an explorer with the big barrel and big fins

[chrome fable]

No, there's bigger wings than boxes.

[quasi nova]

i think fan wings are wider if you have all of the filters ect...

[tranquil adder]

the glowy balls?

[quasi nova]

since those wings can support 3 more parts

[tranquil adder]

ah fan wings right

[quasi nova]

wait did my color changed?

[chrome fable]

Balls with winglets, and fan wings with full extensions and cheese triangles.

[quasi nova]

smth wrong, i can feel it

that's what i got

[tranquil adder]

😮 u went from green to petrol?

but u'd get lvlup reaction from gunter

[zenith bolt]

I dont suppose there is a new chart yet for showing names of parts?

[quasi nova]

here, see that massive ship XD

[chrome fable]

Just load the game tbh

[quasi nova]

And my interceptor's stats ^^

[chrome fable]

It shows all parts in the crafting interface

[quasi nova]

only a bit of cheat because i moved a SC slots 1 slot

[chrome fable]

Yep. Biggest if you go by bounding box.

[zenith bolt]

Yer Im thinking for posting ships without disassembling 3 ships

[quasi nova]

Mine is only S class XD

[quasi nova]

i think we will use the old naming convention for a while, since scrapping dosen't allow to really break apart the whole ship (wings for exemple cannot be dismantled)

[chrome fable]

Wings have most parts given a name, but many other parts don't.

[zenith bolt]

Im just thinking if I post an original fighter, I want to post the parts it breaks into without buying 3 of same ship

[chrome fable]

Like explorer bodies and their six freakin' slots.

[quasi nova]

that interceptor lookk small in comparaison to my cargo XD

[tranquil adder]

nice, u went for dmg instead of maneuver 🙂

[chrome fable]

For fighters, engines and bodies are very obvious. You only need the wings.

For haulers, same.

For explorers, basically don't bother.

[quasi nova]

you want damage? look at that

oops i meant that

[chrome fable]

All three parts of an explorer tend to be very badly named.

[quasi nova]

sound engine is litteraly breaking when firing

[zenith bolt]

Hmm Ill try this ship catalogue mod maybe

[chrome fable]

Honestly I so wish they just fix explorer engines.

I love explorers, but their engine plumes are so awful.

[tranquil adder]

even my staff deals more dmg 😛

[quasi nova]

you want to go this way?

i have some bads news if you wish to engage

[tranquil adder]

one number: 177k

[quasi nova]

196 738

[tranquil adder]

💪

[quasi nova]

get gud

[chrome fable]

I love that DPS info implies you should be firing every attachment at once.

[tranquil adder]

what? no way

[quasi nova]

it's i think the Absolute Max

[tranquil adder]

pic or it didnt happen

[quasi nova]

with the modules found by the community

[tranquil adder]

let me get my own pic cause i cant find it

[chrome fable]

Me with a 3k starter ship in a corner:

[rapid steeple]

whats the easiest way to get a sentinel ship? im trying to start the autophage questline and thats the main roadblock i have

[quasi nova]

you don't need even that much

ii have an exotic with 1.3k and it's so fun to fly around

[rapid steeple]

alright, thanks ✌️

[tender inlet]

Kill things

[chrome fable]

That's the default DPS of the starter fighter. Most of it is the rocket launcher.

[zenith bolt]

Original Orange Hauler, Euclid, Longshore Cockpit, Megalith D-Wings, F-Wing Megalith Engine

[abstract geyser]

found this cute fella

[compact maple]

I really need the Afterburner wings for a fighter. I am desperate.
Anyone have a location to them?

[zenith bolt]

maybe serach my posts with fighter you might find something

[tender inlet]

Or nmsge

[compact maple]

I've been doing all of that for 12 hours now

[abstract geyser]

rate my pic

[chrome fable]

Filters/10

[compact maple]

Dark

[zenith bolt]

Hence why Im trying to name parts for each ship I find now, but I need to scrap 3 ships per ship to get all part names

so its a pain in ass

[chrome fable]

Dude.

Check the ship building thing.

It has every part visible.

[compact maple]

It is brutal, my friend 😵‍💫

[abstract geyser]

here without useless filters

[zenith bolt]

I want a mod to scrap a ship n get all parts, already have one to scrap on freighter

[compact maple]

Friggin PS5

[tender inlet]

Especially when it craps out and just gives you 3 “Extract Customization Module”

[chrome fable]

I literally don't see the issue. Haulers and fighters have 3 engines and 6 cockpits. Haulers also have winglet slots on engines, but you just need to know the shape.

Sure, explorers are fresh hell. But they're also badly named. :p

[compact maple]

There are 202 different wing parts

[abstract geyser]

which one looks better? (theyre both C class)

[ancient ruin]

Reload your game to get the parts listed right again.

[chrome fable]

That's one part.

And most of them are just combinations.

[compact maple]

Yes, I am desperate. I've been looking for more than 12 hours now

[abstract geyser]

or this one

[chrome fable]

Left

[chrome fable]

I like the wing shape, but that's a bad cockpit for it.

[compact maple]

I love you long time.

[chrome fable]

Also mixing engine shapes ew

[abstract geyser]

this one is long

[compact maple]

👀
Do you have a location to it?

[chrome fable]

I like it

[fast oak]

Dr doof vibes

[chrome fable]

Galaxy?

[compact maple]

Thank you!! Euclid?

[abstract geyser]

yes euclid

[compact maple]

Is it crashed?

[abstract geyser]

its on a trade hub

thought this could help

and this one is a B class

[compact maple]

I just want it's wings 😈

[abstract geyser]

here its taking off looks cool

[karmic steeple]

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[zenith bolt]

Orignal Fighter Blue, Euclid

[gusty oak]

C class. I didn’t get it, just thought it looked neat. Technically speaking I could make that exact ship since I had all the parts to do so lol

[abstract geyser]

lol nice

[gusty oak]

Is there a channel for showing off custom built ships yet? If so, what’s the name

[zenith bolt]

this channel I think but please put that its a custom build, I think we making it up as we go along

[gusty oak]

Noted

[abstract geyser]

nice or trash?

[zenith bolt]

What do you think is what is important

[marsh tinsel]

Stats small test.
S reactor
All in the same SS
All same parts and colour
2nd done on a reload, 3rd done after scrapping the first
All done at the MAX damage potential point

@quick herald as you can see no difference. I'm actually surprised i managed to stop it right on the dot on all of them

Working on trying maneuverability

[quick herald]

Sorry, did I suggest this wasnt the case? I thought this scenario was repeatable already

I mentioned the stats before and after building were changing

Also, are the stats repeatable if you swap a single part?

Or even just the color

[marsh tinsel]

how do you know if they are changing? it shows no values, it only shows the bar for chosing stat balance

[quick herald]

Standby

Need to get a cockpit still

[marsh tinsel]

Kk

[quick herald]

Waiting for the autosave, sec

[chrome fable]

Parts change is significant.

Color... doesn't actually seem to be.

[marsh tinsel]

Engines change. Also reshuffles SC slot placement

still done at the peak "upswing" of dmg

[chrome fable]

That's... quite the difference

[quick herald]

before assembly finalization

after

[chrome fable]

Not just reshuffles. Single engine has a lot less slots.

3+3 less.

[marsh tinsel]

yea that too, but its probably just cause of seed reshuffling

same with the sc

[quick herald]

and to ensure my active ship wasn't a possible culprit, i switch to base B class explorer

[marsh tinsel]

im pretty sure this is just the old UI glitch not showing proper core stats until the ship is the active ship

[chrome fable]

In my experience, smaller parts do generally give less slots (except for hauler cockpits)

[marsh tinsel]

the same thing happens with your current ships in collection when you look with the visor

[quick herald]

k, but that bug pulls the stats from your active ship

and i intentionally switched to an explorer to avoid that

[marsh tinsel]

if in the end youre getting consistent stats regardless of what active ship you have, it dont matter

just disregard the stats shown before finalization ig

[quick herald]

The confusing part is that the stats prior to finalization also stay the same

Btw, no change from changing color if were tracking that

[zenith bolt]

There is likely to be a range of stats on same ship, just like vanilla ships

[chrome fable]

If they're modified by a glitch, that glitch might just be modifying them the same way.

[marsh tinsel]

nope. No change in stats after switching active ships

What matters is finalized, disregard the stats shown pre finalizing

[chrome fable]

Colors, if I had to guess, are just in a separate system. Ship colors became editable via cheats two major updates ago.

[quick herald]

Im trying to say that the pre-finalization stats are erroneous

Which is frustrating if you're trying to spec out a ship a certain way

Without spending the parts

[marsh tinsel]

its just a matter of knowing which ship parts give the most bonus on each stat. then balance the stat distribution as you want it

we already knew for example the chunky fighter wings give the most dmg bonus

[chrome fable]

I wonder where that data is stored.

It has to be stored somewhere.

[marsh tinsel]

maybe it just changes the seed which then determines the stats as well 🤷‍♂️

[chrome fable]

And the rng algorithm is so terrible it's this predictable?

Highly unlikely. Even C# rng isn't this terrible.

[marsh tinsel]

its not RNG, its procgen tho lol

there's no randomization, its pre-determined

[quick herald]

Hmm, finding other strange anomalies now when messing with upgrade seeds

[chrome fable]

Since minor changes in seed create major changes in ships, it's fair to assume the ship seed is a starting seed for an rng algorithm.

Which is then polled for ship parts and stats

[marsh tinsel]

ye but again, not rng. if a seed is based on a 32 bit integer for example, changing one single digit is enough to generate a whole new thing, depending on how you do the procgen

[chrome fable]

rng algorithm

It's obviously procedural, since our PCs don't carry a quantum rng source.

[marsh tinsel]

rng implies there is randomization of the seed, or the outcomes of the procgen.
This isn't the case. the procgen is static

[chrome fable]

Because the seed is.

[marsh tinsel]

the seed isn't randomized, clearly

[chrome fable]

Minecraft worlds with the same seed are also same.

But the internals use rng to determine specific features.

Because an rng algorithm with the same seed, ran twice, gives the same string of numbers.

[marsh tinsel]

there is no randomization of the output of the seed here.
Same seed gives the same results. hence i don't use the term rng 🤷‍♂️

rng is used for things like, which ship is gonna land next at the sttation, and what class it is

not here

[zenith bolt]

same seed can and does give different stats

[compact maple]

The others kind of looked the same but had the wrong name.

This one has the very sought after Afterburner wings that I have been looking for 12+ hours. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

🤩

[zenith bolt]

I like the ship way it is, just been farming 3 or 4 fighters in that system

[chrome fable]

Tbh I don't remember specifics

[zenith bolt]

thats why people used to reroll stats on ships, those people that were bothered, pre customisation

[chrome fable]

You won't go far with the understanding of the way this game works if you don't know the basic of random generation in games, I can say that much. :p

[tranquil adder]

from what ive seen, the preview stats are off, and different each preview, but after constructing it the stats become the same

also the stats anim of the gauges increasing and decreasing doesnt seem to have any bearing on the final stats

[marsh tinsel]

thats cause the seed was being rerolled

[chrome fable]

Are final stats different with different stations?

[tranquil adder]

ofc, since stations change the seed

[zenith bolt]

as someone who has posted shitloads of seeds for ships, thats incorrect

[marsh tinsel]

you're talking about the seed for ship design correct?

[tranquil adder]

wait a minute. there is the case of ships of same seed having different stats than others, if they were less than S class and then upgraded compared to natural S (of same seed). i hope ur not confusing this case for that one

[abstract geyser]

should i take it?

[tranquil adder]

nah, sc slots too far away

[marsh tinsel]

yes, because core stats would also be rolled on ship generation

[chrome fable]

I will absolutely not be surprised if a ship is just generated with multiple "seeds" for player inconvenience.

[quick herald]

That's because "natural" S is RNG, whereas upgraded S is the natural upgrade progression for the ship seed

[tranquil adder]

yes, but ships of same seed and same class (both natural or both upgraded) should end with same stats, right?

[marsh tinsel]

seed for design, then seed for stats

[chrome fable]

Minecraft also uses multiple seeds. The one you can input is only for map objects and perlin stuff.

("Objects" being dungeons and villages.)

[marsh tinsel]

I think the main issue is we're just saying "seed", where the case is that the seed used for ship design (the same you do for save editing) is not the same seed used to roll ships core stats

[quick herald]

Any ship upgraded to the next class will have the same stats of any other of the same ship that's been upgraded to that class.
The only difference is if the initial SC slot is in a different location (which i believe only affects interceptors)

[tranquil adder]

then why do all custom ships on same seed (same parts, reactor, station) end up with the same exact stats (disregarding the previewed stats which are off)?

[marsh tinsel]

The chunky wings still seem to have the highest damage bonus like before

[marsh tinsel]

thats what ive been trying to say.
It seems we can now actually determine ship stats roll, without it being RNG

[tranquil adder]

ahhh now i c ur point

[quick herald]

sorry, please clarify

[chrome fable]

Either way I do believe ship part stats are written down somewhere and not generated.

Just need to find it

[quick herald]

we could always know what the ship stats would be when upgraded to a higher class

[marsh tinsel]

yea for sure, we used to have certain wings give bonus to one stat or another. like the chunky wings i showed were always a bonus to damage correect?

[quick herald]

that part is locked in (haven't tested with built ships yet tbf)

[tranquil adder]

yes, but when hunting for natural S class ships, their stats would diverge even though they r same seed

[quick herald]

yes, that's actually the case for all classes though until you upgrade the ship

[tranquil adder]

yes, but since s class cant be upgraded any more, they end up with stats with a random margin

[quick herald]

a C class ship upgraded to S will have same stats as an A class upgraded to S if they are the same ship design/seed

[chrome fable]

Sounds like class upgrade just resets stat seed to 0.

[marsh tinsel]

when you upgrade what comes into play its the "class bonus" distribution though correct?

[tranquil adder]

yes. i think we r on same page

[tranquil adder]

i think its a rounding down of sorts?

[chrome fable]

And it makes sense. Ship stat seed isn't stored.

[quick herald]

yeah, that's why i asked @marsh tinsel to clarify. not sure what was meant by only now knowing the stats roll without it being RNG

[marsh tinsel]

there was the class bonus distribution for different ship types. I think thats always static depending on fighter, or hauler, or explorer

[chrome fable]

...Now I wonder if ships you build on different stations and then upgrade converge.

[tranquil adder]

i take it he meant that with the new custom ships, by defining their class via the reactor class chosen, we observe no deviation in their end stats

[quick herald]

it's just locked to the seed. it's possible to have a seed with max value in one of the stats when upgraded

[tranquil adder]

yea this is an interesting undertaking

[compact maple]

T Shaped Superchargers
Buildable Fighter
EUCLID
Enjoy!

[quick herald]

oh, yeah, i guess so. i mean...you could also have just upgraded an A class to have no deviation in the S stats as well

[marsh tinsel]

meaning that you can get a specific stat roll, if you do it at a certain station, certain bar stat point, certain design type and reactor

[quick herald]

yeah, for sure. that part is certainly more options

[chrome fable]

Damn. Almost perfect. Shame about that engine.

[tranquil adder]

wait, so u just got afterburner wings some mins ago and churned out a T-sc? 😮

[compact maple]

No, that's for a 4 SQ. Hero needed it for his video

[quick herald]

like, the stations setting the stats would not be any different than a multitool cabinet location having max stats for any MT in the case

[tranquil adder]

ah ok

[tranquil adder]

yea

[quick herald]

the problem is it's specific to parts selection, so if you wanted that specific ship piece selection, you'd have to go to that specific system to build it.

[tranquil adder]

cause mts found as s have always same stats, right?

[quick herald]

no, just those in the same cabinet

[tranquil adder]

yea same cabinet i meant

[marsh tinsel]

yea the thing with sharing glyphs for optimal layouts now, is that it implies the person is also going to design the same exact ship

[quick herald]

and by same stats, i mean the stats fall high or low on their respective stat range for the MT type

[tranquil adder]

but if i know there's an s class mt with 48.3 dmg there, it would have that same dmg for everyone else taking it from same cabinet, right?

[quick herald]

yeah, which afaik is basically the same with MT staves

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[tranquil adder]

im not sure about mt staves, i got one featured in one of hero2u's videos but i think i ended up with a lesser dmg roll

dont remember if it was natural or upgraded to s though

which is important ofc

[marsh tinsel]

yea, that's why people are saying the system now feels like the autophage staves system 😄

[quick herald]

barring any unexplained anomalies or weirdness that im not aware of, it should be the same.
i used to catalog entire systems at specific cabinets, made my work a lot easier when all the rifles for example had the same dmg

[tranquil adder]

i c. yea its my impression too

[quick herald]

yeah, it's close, although don't those set the class based on the head of the staff?

[tranquil adder]

now with custom ships there can theoretically be a consistent way of getting a ship with not only great scs but perfect stats too, which wouldnt b possible with natural s class ship hunting

[tranquil adder]

its the headpiece + the planetary coords of the staff maker machine

[abstract geyser]

that is one cool looking sentinel ship

[marsh tinsel]

well yea. now its reactor. whatever, its similar enough lol

[tranquil adder]

we know this cause it was possible to get a different seed (with same headpiece) when staffmaking by moving a few steps around the machine, but they fixed it

[quick herald]

i'm surprised the reactor only affects the class.
i tried installing/reinstalling upgrades in another ship prior to building but it only affected the pre-final stats, which dont appear to change anything

[tranquil adder]

but the reactor also affects the seed too, no?

[quick herald]

thats a good question, i was only testing with an S class reactor

[tranquil adder]

if i use a class reactor instead of s, ill get a different ship, not the a class of the s class i would get otherwise, correct?

[marsh tinsel]

given that all ship parts stack together, i find it weird if someone told me they hold any data of where they came from

[quick herald]

not sure, didnt think to check that yet

[chrome fable]

They don't.

[tranquil adder]

i think i did notice that, but now that u say it i have doubts

[zenith bolt]

If any1 will know about seeds n stuff, or how the game works, it will be MJ, as he has made a bot and tore the game apart

[marsh tinsel]

ain't sure about that. honestly not even very curious, if you're gonna build your own ship, why wouldn't you buy the S reactor, its much cheaper than upgrading after

[tranquil adder]

i can verify all parts (of same type) are interchangeable (not affecting the seed), ive even duped em and no change happened

[quick herald]

different ship confirmed

[chrome fable]

Ship parts are same as untouched upgrades, all stack and have no data except item id

[tranquil adder]

my thoughts too, hence why i stopped fiddling with any reactor but S

[quick herald]

@marsh tinsel have you made a copy of the same ship after already making it once? does it still produce the same ship, stats, etc

[chrome fable]

especially since you get a massive discount on S core.

[quick herald]

not reloading

just having two of same ship

[chrome fable]

Although it's not like nanites are hard to get.

[tranquil adder]

ill add that ship reactors work in the same way. they are also not excluded from refiner eligibility (unlike mods now), despite their icon being same as hyperdrive mod

[quick herald]

just making sure there isnt some "advancing the seed value" nonsense like with ship upgrades

[marsh tinsel]

first test i did showed this.
2nd ship done after reload, 3rd ship done after scrapping the second.
So it doesn't reroll seed, like when you're popping upgrades

[quick herald]

perfect, thx

[chrome fable]

To me reactor is just a ship part

[tranquil adder]

hm, u r right, i didnt actually test this. always reloaded before making same ship

ah ok u got this down i c

[tranquil adder]

yea, it basically is

[compact maple]

The Reactor Core affects the Decals also

[tranquil adder]

u mean a different-class reactor changes decals?

[compact maple]

Yes

[tranquil adder]

but this would conform with the idea that different reactors do change seed

so it is to be expected

[marsh tinsel]

Okay, now i have a reason to actually use less than S reactors lol

back to drawing board

[tranquil adder]

no no, its just changing the seed

no?

i mean, its the same as changing a wing for another wing

[tepid tendon]

Where do you get the reactor cores?

[marsh tinsel]

i wasn't able to change the decal on some fuselages even after changing parts

[chrome fable]

Buy tthem

[marsh tinsel]

ship tech vendor

[tranquil adder]

from space station ship upgrades merchant

[tepid tendon]

ty you two.

[quick herald]

yeah, but then do the stats revert to the seeds upgraded stats?
that is neat the reactor changes the decal color tho

[tranquil adder]

i think not all decals are available via customizing. dont have nearly enough data to say this conclusively, but i tested around 100 ships with droid wings, and never once got the triangle decal

always either the round decal or another but not the triangle

[quick herald]

did you try in a different station?

[tranquil adder]

i notice this cause its my fav

[tranquil adder]

yea, around 100 different stations with same parts/reactor

[quick herald]

hmm...thats a bummer

[marsh tinsel]

[quick herald]

triangle decal is "Authentic Ship Badge" lmao

[marsh tinsel]

this is so deep now lmao

[tranquil adder]

my ship got featured 😅 cant stop saying it lol

[compact maple]

Change the Reactor Core. If you get the decal you want then just manually upgrade the Ship

[tranquil adder]

i will do more testing, still looking for a true 4sc radiant pillar

[marsh tinsel]

the thing is, will you get different stats than making an S right off the bat

[chrome fable]

Tbh it's kinda a bummer how easy nanites are to get now.

[tranquil adder]

yes, cause u would upgrade a ship of a different seed to S

[chrome fable]

10k nanites used to mean something.

[tranquil adder]

than the ship of the seed u would get directly with s class reactor

[marsh tinsel]

yea so just like before

[compact maple]

I have one coming as soon as the video gets published

[tepid tendon]

@chrome fable Whats the easiest way to get nanites? I've been doing the infested planets.

[tranquil adder]

if u dont resort to duping, it still means something. like a few mins if u got a mould farm

[chrome fable]

Bro

[tranquil adder]

a true 4sc radiant pillar? 😮 u beat me to it then

[compact maple]

Search YouTube for Nanite Farm.
Lost of people share them

[tranquil adder]

my best was 3+1, i posted it already

[marsh tinsel]

its made a little easier, because you can buy modules at high discount and sell it to same vendor for a profit

[chrome fable]

Buy suspicious tech packages. Open them. Sell suspicious modules. 80k credits into 300 nanites.

[marsh tinsel]

don't think that's faster than outlaw station hopping still tbh

i thought you were talking about the orbital changes

yea the process is the same since the outlaw packages were in

[chrome fable]

Nah, orbital basically didn't change much

[marsh tinsel]

it did specially for newer saves / players

[chrome fable]

You can dupe nanites on old saves

But it isn't fast

[tranquil adder]

last thing i learned on that front is that u can refine hyaline brains into 250 nanites on the spot

[chrome fable]

^

[quick herald]

im actually only getting a round decal, no matter what i choose, so is it locked to the cockpit? only have like 3 to choose from atm lol

[tranquil adder]

i think that other than the round one, i also got another, lemme check some pics

[marsh tinsel]

what milwakee was saying is the reactor class can change it

[tranquil adder]

thats with radiant cockpit and droid wings and mono thruster

[quick herald]

Only changes the color for me

[chrome fable]

Remember how excited people were for nanite farming via ship scrapping?

[quick herald]

I couldnt get it to change with different wings

[marsh tinsel]

same for me

[tranquil adder]

well there are 2 different round decals

one has a triangle inside it, the other has a line that makes it look like a Q

this is the Q:

im talking about the decal on the right wing, in front of the droid

its color does change from station to station, but looking to see if i ever got a different shape

[quick herald]

I can change that decals color with the reactor class

[tranquil adder]

yea but can u change the shape?

[marsh tinsel]

yea, i was testing around the snout cockpit for a while, never managed to change the decal on it

[quick herald]

But i still only get that decal, its never swapped with another

[abstract geyser]

ITS BLUE

[tranquil adder]

here's another Q decal of different color but same shape

[abstract geyser]

THE BREAKING BAD SHIP

[marsh tinsel]

it's cute

[tranquil adder]

thats the one i seem to always be getting yea

its position is probably affected by the wings, but is it defined by the cockpit? or do all custom ships have decal_index=1 or smth?

[sacred plaza]

are sc slots random when building a ship, or is there a way to determine where they will go?

[quick herald]

it's on my viper cockpit ship too

[chrome fable]

Random but depends on the station

[abstract geyser]

its slick

[tranquil adder]

damn, could custom ships always end up with same decals (but differently colored)?

[marsh tinsel]

Huge damage difference between stations tbh

[tranquil adder]

anyone has a custom fighter with a decal different than the Q?

[marsh tinsel]

ye its gonna sdepoend on the station and the parts assembled

[tranquil adder]

these are preview screens?

well, the manuever of the second one must be so high bc the pulse engine happened to be on sc

[quick herald]

the one on the left is probably much better overall

[mellow sage]

now that is epic

[quick herald]

i had a similar case where maneuv was about that high, then saw the pulse engine was on an SC slot, removed it and it dropped to like 490

[marsh tinsel]

yea i was only looking at dmg stat peaked at the upswing.
I didn't remove shields modules either

[chrome fable]

I mean first one straight up has all better stats.

[quick herald]

have you tried comparing different ship types between these two stations?

like two identical explorers for example

[chrome fable]

Even maneuv is better.

[tranquil adder]

hm, i see that all my custom ships ended up with 101.0 hyper actually

so this is not random?

[quick herald]

oh, i guess it wouldnt matter, since parts would be different, huh

[quick herald]

sounds like no bonus

[tranquil adder]

sry i meant hyperdrive

[quick herald]

yeah, no bonus

fighters get 0

so 101

[chrome fable]

Probably just a bottom cap

[tranquil adder]

ah right

so if u have no bonus u get dalmatians

[marsh tinsel]

nah i was doing it slow, one stat at a time to minimize amount of variables

[tranquil adder]

thats not the slow way, thats the only way to learn

[marsh tinsel]

likely someone has already doing some deeper testing like MilwaukeeScott

[quick herald]

ah ok, just curious if the stations themselves can be of lower/higher "tier"

wait...whats the higest base maneuv for fighters now (in game stat)?

[marsh tinsel]

this all started because someone in nms chat was underwhelmed with ship customization 😄
For min maxers and people who like to do the science, there's a lot going on with the update tho

[quartz shadow]

why tf is this ship so small

like legit mini sized

[quick herald]

multiplayer bug

[quartz shadow]

ah alr

[marsh tinsel]

gotta love them teenies

[broken jungle]

Nice full white X wing shuttle, Euclid [ship is quite rare, it will take some time to spawn]

[near void]

Does anyone know where to find a dreadnought freighter? I am just wondering cause there isn't a chat for them

[tranquil adder]

highest ive seen so far is 522.3

[quick herald]

is that post finalization though

[tranquil adder]

no this is the preview

[quick herald]

remember, the pre-final stats are useless

[tranquil adder]

hero2u told me it changed to 499.5 (iirc)

[quick herald]

oof

[tranquil adder]

i know but maybe the pre-final stats still follow the correct stat margins?

[quick herald]

yeah, ive gotten pre-final stats that show 538 already

[tranquil adder]

omg rly?

[quick herald]

but definitely never seen that high before

[tranquil adder]

yea, highest final stat i think ive seene for maneuver is 511.3

[quick herald]

this one was 530

[tranquil adder]

final?

[quick herald]

i have a final stat of 518 now

[tranquil adder]

oh thats great!

[quick herald]

yeah, this was from my testing earlier, 518.3 for final

[tranquil adder]

very nice

[quick herald]

yeah, i have two sets of pre-final stats for this ship, one has 512 maneuv, the other 531.
both finalized ships had 518.3

damage also moved around a bit

oddly, shield stayed the same

[tranquil adder]

might have been coincidence, but ill keep an eye out

maybe the shield stat in particular is consistent from preview to finalization

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[quick herald]

seems like the shield stat isn't bugged in this case

also, here's a high maneuv Radiant Pillar i just built

[tranquil adder]

nice! ive got a custom RP with even better slots if u want

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[broken jungle]

White and blue sentinel/interceptor, Euclid

its actually greyish

[modern dawn]

I know you can build it but a very nice Vortex in the wild Eissentam

[marsh tinsel]

could build, but good luck getting that decal x)

[modern dawn]

exactly. the decals are like 99% of what makes some ships so unique

also the 5 wing is really nice, i'm not a big fan of the 7 wing

i wish it didn't have a dorsal but i'm not sure if that's an option

.
I really like the design of this ship with the landing gear up, if yellow is your thing, it's in Eissentam
Yellow is not my thing so i passed, but I really like the glider/UFO design

just landing gear down it's a bit tacky, but landing gear up it's really streamlined

[marsh tinsel]

Yellow sentinel with red spine

[modern dawn]

oh yeah i know it just reminds me of a glider or like a stealth bomber but tiny

[ancient ruin]

quiting the starship parts hunt. I'm still getting too many errors. I'll wait till it's ironed out more.

[compact maple]

What system do you play on?

[ancient ruin]

PS5

I'm sure it'll be ironed out soon enough and I don't have any ships I wanna exchange with a fabricated ship anymore anyway.

[daring scarab]

Euclid, white and black Interceptor with those tank legs and top part! Planet glyphs are attached, system is Tier 2 so good luck!

(Posting this as someone wanted the Glyphs!)

[vital pelican]

that's probably why

no issues on pc

technically there is one but it's tiny

if you enter and exit the starship assembly thing while you have a notification from salvaging another ship on your screen, you'll get stuck in place until the notification goes away

but it's very obscure and lasts about 5 seconds so who really cares

[tranquil adder]

yea i had this happen too!

same thing can happen after previewing the mt on sentinel pillars and dismissing it

u get similarly stuck for some secs, during which u cannot move, and then it puts u back in the sentinel pillar dialog

[hearty flax]

It isn't an option, swept wings (which is what those are called in the game) all have dorsal fins

[modern dawn]

yeah i know it stinks 😦

[loud knoll]

ah sure

this is my current and only fan wings

looking for a different kinds

[hearty flax]

I have widebody, bulwark, and longshore fan-wings, and I also have impulse launcher and supercondor wings (which are also fan wings they just don't have "fan-wing" in the name)

[loud knoll]

widebody and condors would be nice

[hearty flax]

Ok, dm me your friend code

[lucid smelt]

What would you guys say a good cargo ship would cost for someone with 20 hours in the game?

[torpid oyster]

Ships with a lot of storage can cost a good bit

Haulers are a good bet for storage space, pretty sure decent ones sell for like 10-20 mil?

[lucid smelt]

Sounds good, thank you 🙏

[torpid oyster]

My personal starship, though the price is definitely inflated by the class, is ~145 mil credits. It also has max slots so that plays into the price

[lucid smelt]

Pookie… that’s insane. I got a long ways to go with this game 😭

[loud knoll]

realized I didn't have economy scanner installed

would have made ship hunting a bit easier

for example:

[hearty flax]

😂 yeah, just a lil bit

[prime wing]

Why does it feel like all the best ships spawn at trade outposts.

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[loud knoll]

forgot I had one of this

[supple quartz]

Because it’s arguably far better to hunt for ships at a trade outpost.

This is because trade outposts don’t have set ships that spawn each wave unlike a space station.

So while it may seem the better ships are there, it’s just because it can draw from the 21 ship pool on the first wave as apposed to a set number for that same first wave in stations.

[supple quartz]

I love your name and want to know the entire backstory hahaha

[prime wing]

Ah I see.

[lone umbra]

For exotic ships do i just have to wait around and hope it lands or

[torpid oyster]

You will be sorely disappointed I worry

[supple quartz]

Pretty much, use trade outposts and don’t have your ship on a landing pad (allows one more ship to land)

Exotics are a 1 in 301 chance to spawn irrespective of system economy.

If you want efficiency, be at a trade outpost, save in a spot where all pads are viewable or in a location that you can view them easily, wait for the first wave, check for exotic, if none, reload save and repeat.

[supple quartz]

Try me

[torpid oyster]

It is a randomly generated Xbox live username

Minus the numbers

[lone umbra]

Best way to find a trading post?

[torpid oyster]

Either the economy scanner or buy a map for one at the space station using navigation data

Economy scanner lets you find one for free in any system so it’s better imo

[lone umbra]

Swt

[torpid oyster]

Though you need the blueprint and materials to build

[lone umbra]

I dont have it on my ship have it on my freighter tho

[torpid oyster]

Don’t think it works with the freighter version

[lone umbra]

Ill just buy it then

What map am i buying inhabited outpost?

[prime wing]

I think certain solar systems will or will not spawn exotics. So I think it depends on the solar system you are in.

[lone umbra]

I used this channel to find a system

So

[torpid oyster]

There’s one exotic per system

[supple quartz]

Nah we gotta think of a better story, let’s go with, you work on a farm, one of your cows got sick that caused a cow pandemic

[prime wing]

Oh ok.

[torpid oyster]

Whether it’s the normal version or a squid

[calm ruin]

Just question, anyone know how to acquire this ship?

Seen it around latelty and it does look awesome

[supple quartz]

Previous expedition finally rewarde. Unfortunately no longer available from the expedition but at the end of the year Hg may and likely will do a rerun of that expedition

[calm ruin]

ah

[supple quartz]

An alternative way you can get it.

• service bot
• save editing or mod
• another player trading (advise alternatives)

[torpid oyster]

Not really any easy way to obtain now

[supple quartz]

I’d argue the service bot is easy, but I get what you mean.

[torpid oyster]

Dunno what service bot is, mostly going off of the other two

[supple quartz]

Simply put the Service bot would bring the player the ship

[fast canopy]

found this pretty manta ray Sentinel in Euclid
Teal and Blue Cyclon Pi
w/ antenna, x wing rear, Long Spine,
hilt and vented wings

[supple quartz]

Very nice find matey, good info aswell

[fast canopy]

also, opinions on putting halo on needlepoint?

[lofty surge]

LawnDart. Looks slick, imo

[fast canopy]

Im planning on building one, good to know

needlepoint, halo, mono thruster

[lofty surge]

You could put an eye out with that one. 👍

[supple quartz]

Damn now I want a lawn dart

[unique pagoda]

Do we have any info about what the max core values are for these new build-it-yourself ships?

[quasi nova]

i assume it's the same as naturaly generated ships

[supple quartz]

me lurking because I’m curious

[quasi nova]

same

[supple quartz]

“Twining”

[abstract geyser]

found this on pirate space station, euclid galaxy,

[chrome fable]

Mmm. Gonna do some science with spare ship parts I have.

[karmic steeple]

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[jagged cargo]

hey guys, i like VERTICAL SPACESHIPS in games/videos/movies, what are the best ones in NMS?

and best would be vertically downward (below cockpit)

[supple quartz]

I’m picturing what you are probably thinking of, which is something similar to a rocket?

I guess the closest thing would be some models of explorers.

[zenith bolt]

Yep only 1 i could think if but you beat me to it

[supple quartz]

Way old photo let me get an updated one but that’s a reference

[supple quartz]

Like 60% of me was thinking I completely misunderstood the question haha so glad that someone else thought the same

[zenith bolt]

Sentinel design for freighter then also

[chrome fable]

There's also the lunchbox shuttle.

[split breach]

This is the updated model of slave body + dagger wings

Or with lance wings

[zenith bolt]

I didnt like flying those, my view seems obstructed somehow

I think ill try making a max warp explorer

[supple quartz]

That and explores look to much like knights or exaggerated emojis

Imo don’t kill me 🥹

[split breach]

Also ajaru wings for good measure

[zenith bolt]

Is there a body type that gives more warp distance?

Or all same now?

[split breach]

Between the explorers? No idea

Max is around 3400 LY

[zenith bolt]

Thought that might of been increased, like with fighter maneuverability

Cause best used to be squid, but people are getting higher now with fighters?

[supple quartz]

Is that with fabricated ships?

[abstract geyser]

holy, those supercharged slots

[chrome fable]

Lmao, it's missing both of its wings in different ways

[abstract geyser]

i sometimes have this issue

the ships dont load all of their parts immediately, after like realoading a save on a space station and the ships starts coming in

[chrome fable]

It's not an issue

It's just that explorers can just not have wings in two different ways.

[abstract geyser]

oh then my pc is just baf

bad

[split breach]

Technically those "caps" still count as separate wing type

[chrome fable]

Two, the other one is the one on middle right

[split breach]

It could be that as well, yeah

[chrome fable]

My PC sucks, but i never had the issue of not loading things. Usually it's just the game lagging the hell out in atmosphere.

[split breach]

Nah, should not be a case for ships

Explorers are just wacky

They can have asymetrical wing setup and one side can roll this small cap

[chrome fable]

And the other side can roll a wing that doesn't exist

[chrome fable]

Case in point

[abstract geyser]

should i go on #nms-questions if like ships take long to load their models

[chrome fable]

What's your ram and how old is your hard drive?

[abstract geyser]

ram is 12 gigs and idk like 4 years?

[abstract geyser]

just look at this

[quasi nova]

some cargo ship can be build verticaly, same for shuttles

ex.

[jagged cargo]

yeah but thats not even close IMO and i HATE the look haha

I mean smthng like that haha

[quasi nova]

exotics maybe?

[karmic steeple]

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[quasi nova]

closest you'll get i assume

[supple quartz]

Exotic might fit.

[woeful agate]

Closest you’ll find is V-Wing exotics

[woeful agate]

Also…that’s EVE ain’t it?

[jagged cargo]

the first pic doesnt look bad

[supple quartz]

They’re about as close as you’re gonna get to what you sent matey

[woeful agate]

It’s the same ship
One while flying and the other are while landed

[jagged cargo]

nice, that looks good, now i need to find how i get it haha

[jagged cargo]

the first was meant compaired to the yellow one haha

[supple quartz]

You’ll need to locate a portal in Euclid, and input the glyphs (symbols) at the bottom of the image.

If none of that made sense you can get a faq for guides on portals by using !faq-portal !faq-portaluse and !faq-portalglyphs paste these in #bot-spam

[jagged cargo]

nice, i have a base next to a portal in euclid 🙂

[supple quartz]

Once you are in the correct system those glyphs lead to you need to locate the ship.

For this ship no information given so use a trade outpost, wait at the trade outpost (without your ship on a landing pad) exotics are 1 in 301 chance irrespective of system economy, you’ll likely be there a while.

Perch yourself at a trade outpost in a position you can see all landing pads or can see them easily, save, observe the first wave ship, if no exotic then reload and repeat.

[jagged cargo]

oki doki, will do so

tradeoutpost on any planet?

[supple quartz]

Yep any in that system

[jagged cargo]

ok thx 🙂

other questiuon i have, whats the easiest way to get living ships (prefferably 4 different ones) i wan tto use them as my squaddron haha

the last time ive got them was like 60+hours of hustle >.<

[supple quartz]

Via vanilla means you would need to do the starbirth quest, first mission will be timed and about 5 days, after that it’s 10k nanites per void egg.

[jagged cargo]

or quicksilver 🙂

[woeful agate]

Ok so you’ve done starbirth

[jagged cargo]

yes

iv got myself another egg too via quicksilver

[supple quartz]

Quicksilver is how you buy the egg

10k nanites is what it will cost to claim the LS

[woeful agate]

That means you’ll need:
3 200 * 4 QS
10 000 * 4 Nanites

[jagged cargo]

whats ther not vanilla way? haha

[supple quartz]

Other alternatives if you want to stray from void eggs include.

• player trading a LS
• service bot
• save editor

[jagged cargo]

i tried using nomnom save editor, but io find it useless cuz i coulnd change anything haha

[broken jungle]

Orange sentinel/interceptor with tank legs, Euclid

[supple quartz]

Nice find Fifi

[supple quartz]

Can try the service bot.

https://nomansapp.com

Tho you want 4, you get 3 free uses a week

Unless you use the LS you got from the first starbirth quest you completed

Then that will make 4

[jagged cargo]

ok thatz bot looks nice

[supple quartz]

Yep if you use that first and foremost any technical questions are better suited for the bots associated discord, the discord link is within the website that link goes to.

Put simply for the service you want.

For select service select ship delivery then at the bottom for ship type select living ship for ship seed you need to input a seed of a living ship you want, easiest way to get this is head over to the bots associated discord and browse previously shared ones, input that seed exactly there.

Make sure all other areas have been completed and you have followed the guide, start the delivery.

[jagged cargo]

thank you 🙂

[woeful agate]

Cool find but you forgot the glyphs
You have everything else tho

[broken jungle]

shi

[broken jungle]

here

[broken jungle]

tysm

[outer garnet]

Anyone give me tips on how to find crashed ships?, preferably ones I can take and salvage?

[abstract geyser]

what class mate

[broken jungle]

luck based

[woeful agate]

Class will change every different crash site

[broken jungle]

it can be C to S

[woeful agate]

It’s not consistent across the entire planet

[supple quartz]

In other words, insert Bugs Bunny “no” meme

[jagged cargo]

tip: go into fotomode to see the whole tradingstation xDD (especiall yon an ice planet...)

[karmic steeple]

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[supple quartz]

lol exotics have very distinct audio when they land, listen for that aswell

[jagged cargo]

well, no audio for fotomod tho, but i can see all 6 platforms all at once 😛

[supple quartz]

I take it other players are in the system if you are in photo mode?

And yeh I’m just proving an alternative if you want to do other stuff while waiting

[jagged cargo]

why?

[jagged cargo]

no front from em 😛

[supple quartz]

Because otherwise while in photo mode the game would freeze the moment you entered photo mode

[jagged cargo]

hm no it doesnt freeze, the ships are landing frequently here haha

[supple quartz]

That’s what I mean, there must be other players

Not relevant at all just making an observation haha

[jagged cargo]

no clue from my end tho haha

[modern cove]

Мне 14 лет ничего не знаю кто будет играть

[supple quartz]

All good I’m just making that observation based of when players are present in the system the game will not freeze when you enter photo mode, when there is no players the game will freeze.

[modern cove]

Иди нахуй

[supple quartz]

Just keep in mind English server, I know there is a Russian server, but I don’t have a link for you sadly.

[modern cove]

Ok

[modern cove]

Где

?

[supple quartz]

<@&590975379678953522>

Translated it to mean “go fuck yourself”

[jagged cargo]

dafuq, what are the odds to have 4x the sam eship on the trading post xDDDDD

[edgy dock]

!Mute 992682781769482281 Acquaint yourself with our server rules. Be civil. And you must post in English.

[karmic steeple]

@edgy dock

@modern cove (.igorkd) muted indefinitely.

[supple quartz]

lol was it the exotic?

Because

My man

[jagged cargo]

haha no, then i would be 4x exotic richer haha

[supple quartz]

Oh haha was about to shock haha, probably pretty likely, I know I have been waiting at a trade outpost and had multiple of the same ship land

[jagged cargo]

ok, no fotomode fo rme anymore 😛

[woeful agate]

Damn

[jagged cargo]

Solar-Ships kinda cool 🙂

[ember hemlock]

They added freighters to ship customizer (april fools ofc)

[jagged cargo]

baaaaad

[vital pelican]

new custom ship

gonna test this one out

I FORGOT TO CHANGE THE COLOURS 😭

[supple quartz]

Looks good anyway

[vital pelican]

it's also now my best ship

in terms of dps, at least

so it kinda sucks that i forgot to customise the colours...

the parts aren't too rare though i suppose

i could post this one i guess

effort though

[supple quartz]

Ya could always just get the parts and go back to get the ship with the colours you want

[vital pelican]

yeah, that might be the plan from here...

[quasi nova]

can you diseassemble a ship you just made?

or those can't be scrapped like that

[jagged cargo]

2h later, still no exo haha

[quasi nova]

exo?

[jagged cargo]

exotic 😛

[karmic steeple]

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[vital pelican]

only 1 part of it

i'm just gonna stick with my old ship

this new one is "better", but i think it looks worse

i'm not a fan of turbine engines

they don't make much sense in space

[quasi nova]

like the other ships

[quasi nova]

you mean the barrel nose?

tbh this part looks good sometimes

[vital pelican]

yeah

turbines and air intakes in general always strike me as odd

[quasi nova]

why, those ships are meatn to work on a planet too

with the magic never to be seen fuel XD

[vital pelican]

true, but why would you use a different jet when you already have an immensely energy efficient engine capable of infinite movement

once you take off, fuel is infinite

[quasi nova]

yup, but why?

[vital pelican]

(or if you just have the recharger thing)

i just like the pointy ships more

[quasi nova]

maybe the ship is actualy scooping stuff from atmospheres

[vital pelican]

or really sci fi ones

[quasi nova]

tbh in space you can have a brick be more maneuvreable than a pointy ship

[jagged cargo]

hmpf, no luck with exos today haha

[chrome fable]

Completely yellow exotic, Euclid

[jagged cargo]

"Gold Nugget" xDD

[chrome fable]

Especially if that brick is wide

[abstract geyser]

how much time did you wait for it to appear

[chrome fable]

I landed and it was there

That's the trade hub right under the station too

[abstract geyser]

So trade hub is the get go when it comes to finding ships?

[chrome fable]

I was actually going there on a quest. In my experience, all ship locations are the same when it comes to ships

You get a wave of 10 and then you wait like 15 minutes for the next one

If anything, trade hubs are more annoying. You often see the ship you want just fly away because the hub was full.

[supple quartz]

Trade outposts are preferred when idling for ship hunting, but bother stations and trade outposts work differently and can be catered to the need.

For and example let’s use space stations “First Wave” this occurs in space stations when you load a save while on the Space Station, where stations and outposts vary is that will be a series of ships that spawn out in space that will be consistent. Not all of those ships will land every time, so there is a little bit of variation between what actually makes it to you in the station, but on most reloads you get the same group of ships landing.

Trading Posts are random on what gets spawned, If your ship is not a First Wave at the Station then Trading Posts maximize the number of random ships you see. If you are able to reload quickly then it might be faster to reload rather than wait for ships that have landed to leave before more spawn.

[chrome fable]

Blue (almost) default ship (euclid)

Also red+silver exotic, same system

[supple quartz]

Nice finds matey

[compact maple]

4 Square Superchargers
Buildable Fighter
You must purchase Tech slot Row 1, Column 7 to see all the superchargers!
EUCLID
Enjoy!

[tender inlet]

Pickup truck alert! (70)

[fast canopy]

wa?

[tender inlet]

Looks like a pickup truck

I do that whenever someone posts one

This is #70

[fast canopy]

neat!

[supple quartz]

Aye he’s back, good find bud 🩷

[compact maple]

Thank you!!

[quasi nova]

it ain't a pickup truck

there is no truck parts on it

[abstract geyser]

whats the best tactic to find s class ships?

[torpid oyster]

Go to an outlaw system and wait at the space station or go to a trading post for ships to spawn and check with your analysis visor to see their class

The highest chance for an s class starship to spawn is in outlaw systems

[abstract geyser]

thank you sir

[karmic steeple]

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[abstract geyser]

is it better to go on station or trading posts?

[sour pier]

Trading post

Space station limits to 4 npc ships, trade post can have 7, and they cycle faster

[abstract geyser]

thank you

im on a pirate system and uhh i was waiting a bit and everything that comes is c

[jovial crescent]

It can happen, ships have an 85% chance to be c class

Rest is all 5% each

[abstract geyser]

oof

[torpid oyster]

The highest chance for s class to spawn is there, but C class is also extremely common since B and A class are lower rates than usual

[abstract geyser]

thank you

ill use it to my advantage

[torpid oyster]

In an outlaw system it is the same chance for a B and A class to spawn as S

[abstract geyser]

how long should i wait till i switch system?

[fathom zenith]

Anyone got a spare s class reactor core they be willing to part with

[zenith bolt]

As long as you want, I wouldnt get an s class just for sake of an s class, find a ship you like look of

[chrome fable]

Hm

I didn't realize solars replaced other ships instead of being thrown into the system

[zenith bolt]

ask in trade channel maybe?

mainly shuttles I think

[chrome fable]

Technically this makes outlaw systems also great for ship parts.

[zenith bolt]

lol Id go 1 star, probably cheaper

[chrome fable]

You get the extra solars, true, but you get a lot less shuttles, which are cheaper per slot, and you get a 5% chance to just get an S-class to sell.

[chrome fable]

Usually for parts I go for drowned/distress ships.

[zenith bolt]

yer i been dead planets

[chrome fable]

Drowned are slower, distress eats fuel and, if you want a 100% chance, nav data.

Also I am fairly sure both have reduced chance for haulers.

(Or any bigger non-shuttle ships in general)

For fighters, it makes getting the large wing part difficult. For explorers, basically doesn't matter, explorers are cheap

For some reason

Like, the game puts them on the same per-slot price tier as shuttles.

Honestly the game really wants you to pilot an explorer earlygame.

[quasi nova]

or you can simply get 3B and go into a buying frenzy and destroy half of the system ship pool before going to the next one XD

btw am i the only one to noticed a reduced ship income in the station even after a reload when i bought and destroyed 5/6 ships

i've saw ships i've destroyed come back, but the spawn seems dimmer

[floral current]

Since I can't do this cause Xbox/MS Store, anyone want to help me out and find the station for four adjacent OC for a single engine + long nose + heavy/tie fighter?

[chrome fable]

Tbh if I see a part on a cheap ship I just buy it.

...I wonder why I don't see anyone talk about base ship price getting bumped by 4 mil.

I mean it makes sense but still

[quasi nova]

well tbh the only ships who are really expensive are either A class of haulers

that's all imo

others are around 14m

[runic niche]

Whenever i find a crashed ship the highest quality is always on a shuttle lmao

Lowkey wish you could make custom shuttles. They’re the funniest looking ships