nms-fauna

[limber ore]

u are euclid galaxy no?

[inner oak]

Yeah in Euclid.

Should be on Aioli Minor

Most of the animals are A or higher here.

Should be a base on the portal

This is the second star system I started in.

[limber ore]

bet

yeah im porting in now

[inner oak]

There's two anomaly planets here too that should have some good fighters in.

[limber ore]

blu city?

[inner oak]

Nah that's my buddy's.

[limber ore]

or miners?

[inner oak]

Ivirka Portal Trade Center.

[limber ore]

be there shortly

[violet sigil]

You mentioned breeding to improve the potential, are eggs required to get the best pets possible, or can you do it without?

[limber ore]

wait, i dont actually see that one, is it one the other side?

you need the egg to alter natures

[violet sigil]

Are they really that impactful?

[limber ore]

bonus abilities are based on nature, these abilities occur more often when at 100%

healing, status effect, and sometimes outright damage

[violet sigil]

Generally, do we already have some sort of spreadsheet that helps with competitive creature building?

[prime gate]

And you can have three bonus ability types, as there are three spectrum of traits.

[limber ore]

i use gemini and youtube

[violet sigil]

Thanks, I'll take a look at them later

[prime gate]

Mariti has one floating around here, and has posted it to Reddit as well. I'd like to see it pinned eventually.

Strategy is pretty personal, and because pvp is competitive, I expect to see a lot of tuning for it down the road.

[limber ore]

i dont see the trader mentioned, is it on another planet, or the other side of the planet of the coords you gave me?

im in a living ship at the portal

i just dont wanna move and get lost lol

i see the first two bases just not the trader you mentioned

[inner oak]

I'll meet you at blue city. Drop a beacon on the portal so you don't get lost.

Or spawn your exocraft.

[limber ore]

bet

nah portal locks in on nav position so i can get back home

after i get the egg, ill go to orbit to see how far out this side of the galaxy is if you want we can go back to my portal location for expedition purposes i like having spots on all sides of the galaxy

[violet sigil]

I tried checking their name and embedded links, but seem to be unable to find it, is it possible to please give me the link to the reddit post?

[inner oak]

All good. I got like 150 bases in 9 galaxies.

[limber ore]

damn

okay lol

im outfront

[inner oak]

If you wanna cheat to the center, just spam the 1st glyph. So 1, 1, 1, etc. It'll say "Warping to nearest location" and usually it's next to the center.

I'm on the dock. You see me and a sentinel ship?

[limber ore]

i see your diamond

but oyur in the house

your*

apologies

im at the save beacon

[violet sigil]

I was able to find it, but it only has moves. I was hoping to have more in regards to traits and other things

[inner oak]

That's where I'm standing. I look like an infected Gek.

"Aggressive Sentinels" it says. But there are no sentinels and they do not harm you.

[limber ore]

i dont understand whats going on

[inner oak]

Your multiplayer might be bugged. Did you try unplugging the console from the wall and restarting?

[limber ore]

yeah ill do just that

cause im sitting on your base

theyre saying latest version

i was just online with ppl today

i just added you

[inner oak]

Xbox has the same issue, it's something with the networking. If you exit the game without fully closing it, it'll bug and not see people in the same system.

[limber ore]

for whatever its working now?? i had to do it from start page after reset

[inner oak]

Friend code.

[limber ore]

i sent the friend request

im loading up now ill give it in 2 secs

87SM-PPYYW-3Y85J

[inner oak]

Failed to add

[limber ore]

im sorry

87SM-PYYW-3Y85J

nms said i added you tho

ill resend if need be it seems to be working now

[violet sigil]

If you capture two of the same species on the same planet, will their moves and traits vary? I know that the potential stays the same, but not sure about the other two

[limber ore]

yeah it says your already added

[limber ore]

???? meaning?

[inner oak]

You're on a previous version. Older than on Xbox.

Let me research.

[limber ore]

i was legit just online not like 2 hours ago

yeah i was on with cyber

[inner oak]

I'm wrong. Xbox is 32 ps and PC are 33

[limber ore]

cyber is pc

[inner oak]

So I gotta wait until mircroweiner decides the update is necessary

[limber ore]

wtf

so close

[tranquil zephyr]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1slufm3/complete_xeno_arena_movelist/#lightbox

[inner oak]

"Xbox is ahead of the game 3 weeks later than everyone else" should be their motto.

[limber ore]

ive been on the hunt for that egg for 3 days dude lol

[inner oak]

WAIT.

IDEA.

I ALSO HAVE PC

[limber ore]

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

OMFGGGGGGGGGGG

[violet sigil]

Already mentioned that I found it, thanks for putting it together. Do you have any other sources that could be used to improve my team? I would really love to learn more about size/weight and traits

[limber ore]

added

[tranquil zephyr]

size/weight stat affects creature agility/hp stat very minimally, but is important for agility since that's what determines turn order
personality effect bonus move chance is 6.6%
I will update the reddit post to include personality bonus move explanation

[violet sigil]

Thank you so much! I am looking forward to it

[inner oak]

I guess PC and PS get the updates first. All the more reason not to renew my gamepass and move to playstation.

[limber ore]

i see your ship finally

yeah u just entered the system

maybe that was an npc

finally

so happy

thnx dude!

[inner oak]

No problem.

[prime gate]

Any idea if there's a formal process to request this to be pinned? Because it should be. 🙏

[violet sigil]

You also still need to remove the /copy from your link url, otherwise the link will still force people to make a copy, instead of viewing the document. You can only view it like this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/3/d/1DPzBB5DCCePumVD1f94gVFSkJ9XBFcPSVeTfCiW1k5I

[sharp summit]

need PS+ to use multiplayer though

[tranquil zephyr]

the copy link was intentional because I intended for ppl to be able to change their own values in the "Worth Using" category
I dislike google drive, and I honestly wouldve preferred to use any other file hosting service but most people do not have MS excel

[plucky walrus]

Two triple S creatures. It also has two SAA creatures. Cheers 🍻

[prime gate]

What element types are these?

[plucky walrus]

Both Toxic 🍻

[exotic pumice]

Nice!

[snow hearth]

how do you reroll the class of expedition reward eggs again, if it's possible w/o save editing/mods?

[tribal coral]

I think u need to reload restore point from before claiming the egg.

[snow hearth]

i tried that, but the green horror and the fossil creature were rolling into the same stats between reloads, so not sure if i have to do more (or if specifically those eggs cant reroll?)

[white hill]

Triple S thingy, frost, euclid. gek not included

[tranquil zephyr]

pretty sure all unique eggs have custom class stats, and for whatever reason they're pretty much all terrible
pretty lame since there's no way to upgrade a creatures class, would've been cool to upgrade it with like quicksilver or something

[paper ember]

Awwww you almost sold me on the frost thing but no gek=no deal😂

[violet sigil]

In my eyes, adding the option to increase potential would take away the incentive of searching for the best creatures, which is sort of the name of the game. Though I do agree that the special creatures should be usable

[violet sigil]

@tranquil zephyr I noticed that you have now listed what the personalities do, in your guide. But one thing isn't quite clear yet. The base chance of effects being triggered is 6.6%, but how does that interact with the personality percentages, do they even matter? Let's say I am building a damage dealer, do I want helpfulness at 100%, and the other two as close to 0% as possible, to increase the weight of the combat buff?

[white hill]

SSS Flower cat

[inner oak]

I'd rather pay $15/month for ps+ platinum than $35/m for GPU.

Just a matter of getting my friends to jump ship

[inner oak]

From what I have gathered, you want everything to be as close to 100% as possible if you can't get it to 100%. Whether you get a desired effect to trigger is chance. I've noticed that I get more triggers on higher passive stats than I do on something that's say only 25% loyal. You're never gonna get a constant damage effect trigger after trigger. You're gonna get say a heal or damage buff, nerfing and enemy's damage output or increasing their damage intake, sometimes on the off chance you get your DoT effect ON TOP of increased damage intake, that's where you're just lucky. I've had it happen only once.

But usually after 2-6 turns, something WILL trigger.

[ember abyss]

I’m buying cool looking large eggs 1.2 billion units each

[hearty birch]

anyone that got a dragon/griffin egg?

[distant geode]

Try asking in #nms-lfg-or-trades

[mild cliff]

Literally just a glowing orb

[lusty flint]

Brother, delete this image, you have some seriously personal information here

Be careful

[lusty flint]

I can help if you have questions, search my name here, I've put a lot of stats and stuff here.

[tranquil zephyr]

not sure how the weighting works between all 3, I just put that there because the game files made it obvious that's what it was
I've been trying to experiment with the values but with that particular file the game's being a little difficult for modding it

[shell peak]

<@&590975379678953522> for real you should help a guy out and delete this picture he posted, personal info showing inadvertently

[lusty flint]

No, so the scale actually works like this

Aggressive 100-----0-----100 Gentleness

Each dash (-) is a 100% dose. Each dose gives 20% on the sliders

[tranquil zephyr]

they're talking about the other 2 that aren't on the same "slider"
for xeno arena

[thorn pier]

You seem to have some tax papers visible in the pic so I'll delete it. Clean your desk, sort out your papers.
@inner oak

[violet sigil]

I am looking forward to your future research results. You are doing a wonderful job making this information available to everyone!

[lusty flint]

Thanks, I clocked it when catching up on chat, a lot of information was there for the poor dude, better safe than sorry

[lusty flint]

Ah gotcha, sorry I jumped in there

[violet sigil]

At the moment I am still unsure if smallest size, or greatest size will be best for my creature, or if I should just leave it the way it is. For the most part I am open to either a stall, or offensive approach. At the moment agility does seem like the better stat, as acting first can also have a lot of value for a tank, and I am unsure of how much the loss of health would actually do

To give more info, I am building a tropical creature

[tranquil zephyr]

agility is generally going to be the stat you invest in, because other players will be too
intentionally going low agility to try to do the turn order flip is inherently risky simply because it isn't a guarantee, and you'll always go 2nd the first turn of the game
plus they can just dispel it immediately and poof the gimmick is gone

[violet sigil]

Is the heal a creature gains from being loyal based on the total health, or a flat amount based on level?

[keen horizon]

Is there any legit vanilla way to tame this ?

[heavy mortar]

No; someone who has it could give you an egg though

[lucid beacon]

anyone have titan worm egg?

[manic bobcat]

[ebon badge]

update missing only arthropod 3sss
-desert
-tropical (if anyone has one to exchange).

[wise hill]

Triple S Rank Mogara code is on the screen

[pliant zealot]

Great find!! What Biome is it?

[wise hill]

Desert I think credit goes to captain Steve https://youtu.be/-0ie6vdbkYs?si=xNtMtZHd2aaRdfk0

[tribal coral]

I want to find my own SSS pets. It can take time tho.

[bold sierra]

I watched just to see em but wanna find my own too. That big sss one (second creature) was way cool

[ember abyss]

I’m buying cool looking large eggs 1.2 billion units each

[fierce knot]

I found the creature but the stats are much lower did I do something wrong.

[sullen cipher]

Toxic in Galaxy 62

[plucky walrus]

When you enter the star system. I labeled the planets. To help you find my references. Let me know and I can help you later this evening 🍻👽

[exotic pumice]

the starting stats are lower, you need to level them up, but the ranking should be the same

[fierce knot]

I see i was just confused I thought the ranking was the max it would get but the bars are diffrent representations. Thanks for the help

[radiant meteor]

velico-rat-bird-deer-or

[heavy mortar]

I just found my first one after 175 creature scans, but that's not counting all the guys I scanned prior to actually logging my results

it sucks; assuming that guy on reddit who posted the file data was right, there is a 0.33% chance for any creature to be SSS

but I have some doubts on that data as I think it might be for challengers, not planetary spawns

but I'm not sure

at almost 200 entries logged:

I mean it's close but I just don't know; it feels off

[last dove]

uhhh

[pliant zealot]

Does anyone know why my pets 3 tier skill are not unlocking after feeding it 90 Retroviral pellets?

[prime gate]

Screenshot?

The grayed-out icons on the DNA tree are just different pages. You need to reroll an existing skill to get a new one.

[pliant zealot]

I dup pellets. Until today I would hatch an egg and freed the pet 90 pellets. That would unlock the tier 3 skills.

Today I did the same thing and only have tier 1 unlocked.

After more research, rumors say the most recent update changed that and we now must take each pet through the level up battles?

[tranquil zephyr]

Retroviral pellets still increase pet level same as before, I dont know where you are hearing these "rumors"
I don't understand what you mean by "tier 1" and "tier 3" skills, you only need 30 retroviral pellets to max a creature's stats, any amt after that is purely for cycling moves
You should post screenshots so we know what specifically you're talking about

[pliant zealot]

I 'm not in game right now so the numbers may not be correct.

Tier 1 Reflective shield reflects 780 damage.
Tier 3 Reflective shield reflects 1056 damage.

As you level your skills get stronger and cool down longer.

We advance through 3 tiers

[tranquil zephyr]

ah, you mean the random moves a creature originally spawns with
yes they get stronger as you increase the stats, but you know if you max all 3 stats at once it won't update the moves automatically, you have to back out of the menu and go back into it to update values

[pliant zealot]

Until yesterday I could feed it 90 pellets and they would all open up.

Today I've spent the last 4 hours trying to figure out what happened.

Is there something I'm missing?

How many should I feed it at a time?

Thank you very much for your time!

[tranquil zephyr]

the values for each move are determined by a range/combat stat, so each move doesn't have a set value for it's damage / damage reduction / healing / etc
all 3 stats (combat, agility, HP) requre 10 mutation levels, so to max a creature's stats it needs 30
anything after those 30 is purely for cycling the moves on the creature
I've linked my post with the sheet that has all the moves currently in game per slot
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1slufm3/complete_xeno_arena_movelist/#lightbox

[shell peak]

I noticed if I use volcano skill, it one shots my opponent. If I one shot them with my first move of a new characters turn, and it ends the battle, that character doesn't get experience credit for having participated

[pliant zealot]

Yes, that's a great resource. Thank you very much for all your hard work and sharing it with the community

But the fact remains that something has changed.
It seems that I can no longer access the top level Random Moves with just 90 pellets and I cannot figure out why 👿

[tranquil zephyr]

you're going to have to put screenshots when you get the chance

[pliant zealot]

Of what? My pet that I feed 300 pellets to today?
200 of them spent clicking the shield slot and never getting a shield over 780?

I am unsure of what you want a screen of but I am turning on my game now.

It seems like maybe I've been stumbling through this the last week and just getting lucky.

I must be missing something basic.

[mild cliff]

Kinda reminds me of the D-rex

[lusty fractal]

I really wish the sacrifice moves were better but they're so easy to cleanse that it's such a big risk to just nuke your pet

[tranquil zephyr]

cycling the same move slot and hoping to get a higher value on a specific move doesn't work, once your creature has that value on a move, cycling back to it won't change it

[lusty fractal]

Hii @tranquil zephyr

[tranquil zephyr]

hi!

[pliant zealot]

Thank you! Am I correct that 90 pellets will open up the last tier of random moves?

It did for me until yesterday. Was I just getting lucky?

Thank you again for all your help 😁

[tranquil zephyr]

you should only need 30
I don't know what exactly you were seeing, but the same move will never have different values after you cycle back to it

[lusty fractal]

I think I have seen moves of the same name with different values while cycling

[tranquil zephyr]

although they may have actually rebalanced the values for moves, I didn't check
so that may be why you saw different values initially

oh yeah they totally did, the heal moves are higher and a few moves are lower

[lusty fractal]

Like there's an a move based on agility that'll hit between 1k-3k and the same move with lesser damage with the same name on the same pet

[pliant zealot]

30 will open the weak random moves
60 mid tier random moves
90 the most powerful random moves
Correct?

[tranquil zephyr]

have seen 0 evidence that leveling a pet beyond 30 increases move values

[lusty fractal]

I've yet to see that specific evidence but I have seen the values change through cycling. Will need more testing but I won't be the one to do it lol

[tribal coral]

From what i saw , values of skills just scale along with pet lvl.

[tranquil zephyr]

which maxes at 30

[tribal coral]

Once u hit 30 u are on max

[covert remnant]

Where did u get this info from?

[tribal coral]

Class of pet stats can impact the skill numbers

[tranquil zephyr]

been trying to ask...

[covert remnant]

Also this nickname is very familiar... are u famous by smth here?

[tribal coral]

Dont tell me its from prof cynical xd

[pliant zealot]

How do we get the different values?
Reflects 897 points of damabe
Reflects 1,027 points of damage

[covert remnant]

we dont know for sure
can u please answer us where did u get YOUR info from?

[tranquil zephyr]

if you can provide screenshots of the different values then we can see

[tribal coral]

Was the pet on same lvl both times in both examples?

[pliant zealot]

Leveling 50 max pets

[covert remnant]

so, its your own finding
and now it doesnt even work for you too

[pliant zealot]

all level 30

[covert remnant]

maybe your earlier conclusions were just wrong?

i dont remember such "hidden" mechanics being in play anywhere else in the game

[tribal coral]

Was the 897 shield a default skill or both u got by skill reroll?

[pliant zealot]

This has to be it.

[tribal coral]

Skills could just have stats range. Like modules have

So u need to farm petllets to grind reroll for max stats

Pepole still are digging into how the mechanics works

[heavy mortar]

@tribal coral have you found your first SSS yet? Just curious since you're the only other person I've seen who wants to find them on their own

[tribal coral]

Found like 3 total..1st on day 1. But all tropical. And i think my luck run out. I want to find other elements too.

[heavy mortar]

if you include all the guys I scanned before actively logging, I didn't get my first until like 400+ lol

[tribal coral]

Found them all in purple systems. But i dont think that maters much

[heavy mortar]

as much as I'd like to find my own, this is just annoying at this point

getting tempted to just go to existing finds

[tranquil zephyr]

the self agility move cycles into the exact same value 3 times
1241-3278

[tribal coral]

There is not a lot of skills diversity imo. So there is a chance to get same one.

[tranquil zephyr]

that isnt my point, I know that
Im saying the values listed in the move dont change when cycling

[pliant zealot]

Until yesterday I would hatch an egg.
Feed it 10 pellets and check it's Agility. If it was over 400 I would feed it 20 more and max out health and Combat.
Then I fould feed it another 90 pellets and all the strongest skill would be available,
I would just cycle through the random move until the strongest appeared.
I've done this at least 30 times since the update.
But not after today 👿

Was it a bug? Maybe patched?

[tribal coral]

We dont know if Not all skills have stat range or there is none . That needs more testing.

[pliant zealot]

They really did for me, honest

[lusty fractal]

Same for me as well

[tribal coral]

Updates def dont help figuring it out if they are changeing things at this fresh update state

[pliant zealot]

Because you are tier 3. The lower ones are no longer available.

I believe that when I was feeding it pellets 100s at a time the move was mutating as I clicked. So I see the lower level before it mutated to the higher level

[tranquil zephyr]

you cant cycle moves unless the pet is level 30

[pliant zealot]

They were all level 30. It's the first thing I do.

Then feed it 100 pellets

[lucid beacon]

anyone trading a titan worm egg?

[tribal coral]

Thats Intresting. might check it and reroll some skills next time to test it

[pliant zealot]

Well as of today it does not work anymore. That's why I'm here 👿

[tribal coral]

All skills or that specific one ?

[flint spire]

Is this the place where we can share our finds ?

[lusty fractal]

Yup

Anything creature related

[flint spire]

Perfect

[pliant zealot]

All skills or Radom moves I think they're called.

I believe there are 3 Tiers.

For example the Relective shield has 3 Tiers.
T1 =Reflects 764 damage.
T2 =Reflects 990
T3 =Reflects 1,027

I also believe that each Tier comes with every 30 Retrovial Pellet.

I believe that after your pet hits level 30 you are on tier 1.
30 more pellets Tier 2
30 more pellets Tier 3.

It's been working that way for me since the beginning, until today

Iv'e dupped 100's of pellets and leveled 50 + pets

[flint spire]

Found those by myself 😁

[covert remnant]

well, i gave up and got those arena milestones unlocked

so, aeron crab, gehoprawn, and wandering fish tank - all can be colored!

the former two follow the standard palette, the latter probably follows the robotic one

[flint spire]

And got this beautiful butterfly by genetic modification 😁 Geodesite for color + I needed to put 150% Gold for physics modification to go from long tail to those smooth ribbon tail, don’t know where u can find it cuz my friend got it for me but i will do egg if people want and will try more genetic 😁

SSS btw 😁

[covert remnant]

well nvm the fish tank seems to have its own palette mapping

[tranquil zephyr]

it's actually funny they swapped the creatures for oceanus and... one of the other ones (idr which) so technically if you did the other 4 milestones before 6.33 you could get all 5 without finishing oceanus wins

[covert remnant]

oh they did?

didnt even notice

[tranquil zephyr]

yep, the mod author of oceanus pet unlocker (totally not me btw) had to fix the file for it

[covert remnant]

what is the condition for the fish tank now?

[tranquil zephyr]

uhhhh
they just switched geno prawn which was the oceanus milestone with whatever it is now, so they just swapped the rewards, nothing crazy

[covert remnant]

well whatever i got them all now

will try them tomorrow tho

[tranquil zephyr]

they at least fixed the crash when cycling their abilities, just changes it to a base move then back to the curated tho so no point

[covert remnant]

so the colors for the Wandering Shrimp Tank i found:
Magno-Gold - Green legs, magenta tank and shrimp
Semiconductor - All blue
Oxygen - light yellow legs, green tank and shrimp
Tritium - deep yellow legs, off-white tank and shrimp

Tritium satisfied me so i stopped 😄

maybe Quad and Squid can be colored too now, but will have to wait for their eggs to see

also the Quad seems to be not as bad as i thought

even after they nerf CD reset, the ramp>stun>reset cycle is possible

no defense tho

or maybe not, reset has cd=3

[tranquil zephyr]

doesn't it still have a 2 turn limit on the ramp move instead of 3 like normal pets?

[tranquil zephyr]

reset resets itself iirc
unless they fixed it

[flint spire]

This is what I use to help me to find color match 👍

[covert remnant]

oh does it? i play in Russian and many status effects just show me "%" instead of turn numbers, and others just dont fit into the string length ;D

so im kinda clueless on a lot of data

[tranquil zephyr]

it shows the amount of "charges" you've accrued with the ramp move in your pet's positive statuses below the healthbar (can't be dispelled)

and since it does that you have to use the ramp move again within 3 turns but on CQ it's 2 for some reason

[covert remnant]

yea i notice this one, but its non-informative in my locali

[tranquil zephyr]

gotcha
that sucks

[covert remnant]

welp

lets hope the shrimp tank is good

[tranquil zephyr]

it has 100% def for team with the self destruct move but imo that's all it really has going for it

[flint spire]

Made 9k damage only with sacrifice boost + good type 😌 powerful combo

[covert remnant]

yep, the extended version of this is posted somewhere far in pins here

the google drive link

[flint spire]

Oh didn’t knew sorry I’m new here 🤣 found this on Reddit I think

[covert remnant]

basically u can use it on all "flesh" fauna with a few expedition egg exceptions and butterflies

robotic fauna, butterflies and some other types have their own color maps, u can find it in the pins

for example, the Wandering Shrimp tank seems to have a brand new one

[flint spire]

Ohhhhhhhh pretty usefull then ty for telling me !

[heavy mortar]

I think once I hit a thousand logged fauna, I'll start going to existing finds to build my teams, assuming I don't find enough SSS by the end of that

since I'm resorting to using existing finds eventually, I'll share the one SSS I have found so far to sort of give back to the community

note that it's in a purple star system

[flint spire]

🔥

Anomalus type too

[heavy mortar]

I originally didn't want to use existing finds not because anything is wrong with them, but because I'm a perfectionist and was trying to "do it all myself" but the chances are just too low. Even getting S class frighters, which I've done before, is easier than this

[flint spire]

Yh finding sss is hard, found 4 so far since the maj drop

[heavy mortar]

I will heavily genetically modify anything I use though; not to hide that I used an existing find, but just to personalize it more

like I want all my pets to be colored to match the type they are, like tropical green, fire red, etc.

[distant verge]

so many cheaters at the holobattle thing, saw 2 people in 2 seperate anomalies running lvl 1k+ pets with insane stats

[heavy mortar]

yeah that too; I'm not planning on cheating but using existing finds seems like a must if you want even have a chance in the anomaly at winning

[flint spire]

Thats the cool way to do

[distant verge]

i have a lvl 30 i built up pretty strong, 4k hp decent damage, got one shotted by a dude that did 50k damage in his first attack

[flint spire]

Nah for real ? 🤣

[heavy mortar]

I'm hoping it won't be as bad on perma death since I think people who purposely choose to play perma death are less likely to cheat

[distant verge]

possibly, i have 2 saves, a normal save i use for expeditions and general play, and a PD save

might honestly make a seperate save specifically for battling cheaters xD

[heavy mortar]

PD kind of became my main save because while it's not impossible to cheat there, it just seems a lot less unlikely IMO. People will do it, but I think the vast majority going into PD know it's meant to be a challenge and respect that.

Like I feel like PD has a proper economy for trading because you can't just turn on free crafting or free purchases

although I have been doing all my creature logging on normal because aggressive sentinels are annoying; anything I find that I want I can just portal to on PD

[haughty rapids]

hmm
If you dyed that black it would probably become a giant glowing football

[haughty rapids]

yes
with mods

wait vanilla, nvm

[finite gulch]

[violet sigil]

I've read that each specific genus of creature has a different limit of how tall/short they can be, do we have some source of where to look these things up?

[inner oak]

Oops. Probably some licensing for one of these stupid cars. Sorry bout that.
Edit: nah it was a court date fighting a speeding ticket. I won.

[honest imp]

i just retire when my opponents obviously use edited pets. everyone should and not give them the pleasure of playing

[earnest oar]

hey buddy im in middle of some dialogue

[twilit dune]

Any planets that have Whale Fauna ? Specifically a Killer Whale

[earnest oar]

i need urgent help, im in a quest and i somehow reached level supression 5 and im holding on what do i do

[patent sonnet]

There are only really big squids and manta rays and nautilus things, no whales

[twilit dune]

Sharks ?

[patent sonnet]

Kinda, I've seen some angry looking fish, and even adopted one for somebody once I think

[lusty fractal]

Lf Arena Battles :3

[unborn knot]

how do u go down on a flying creature

[shell peak]

👀

[tranquil zephyr]

well first you ask for consent...

sorry couldn't resist you set it up so well
you actually can't

[unborn knot]

alr bro i see how it is

[unborn knot]

dont even think id be able to go down on this worm 😭

100x my size

[prime gate]

Any preferred strategies for leveling up Gen2 xenomon?

So far, arena matches and w/ 2x L30 w/ hatchling xenomon seems to earn 21 levels from first encounter... is there a better way?

[sullen cipher]

Anomalous in Galaxy 65

[lusty flint]

🤣 brother that is an epic response. Very well done 👏

Anyone found. Triple S Radiation Butterfly yet?

[last dove]

i haven't found a triple s radiation butterfly but i got a aab one with very good devotion for the automatic attacks

[cloud grotto]

@unreal mesa @void heron Just pinging you guys here so I remember to ping you when I send the ss

[flint spire]

Hey guys, I’m doing my beetle 100% sss, found the color I want but anyone know what should I use to make those big wings with little spike ? I have round wings atm

[hearty birch]

What would you want for a egg from that

[lone pelican]

For those reserving a mambo egg (I can't ping everyone without being nuked)

Alright good news, I have all the eggs now. Distribution will begin soon once I grab a monster from the shop

[lucid beacon]

what's a mambo egg

[unborn knot]

i dont need anything

[lone pelican]

@limber ore @surreal juniper you two are first on my list

I will be on in about 20 minutes

[lone pelican]

Mambo

[lucid beacon]

oh my god, he's adorable and strong

[distant geode]

Its an expedition pet, of course it has to be strong

[lucid beacon]

someone gave me one but it was only SCS

[distant geode]

Still strong

[lucid beacon]

yeah, but it's hard to put in my team since i already have 3 SSS

he still cute tho

[flint spire]

How do we get one from u ? 😊

[lone pelican]

I put you on a waiting list because there's like a dozen peeps wanting one

[flint spire]

Understandable haha that’s a crazy pet ngl

[lucid beacon]

put me on that list my good sir

[lone pelican]

[flint spire]

Well ty, if u want something in return tell me 😁

[lucid beacon]

thank you

[lone pelican]

Gonna streamline the process a little

Kitasan's Umamusume Fighting List

1. Mambo - SSS - Toxic - Scuttling Horror
2. Goldship - SSS - Toxic - Burrowing Horror
3. Silence Suzuka - SSS - Desert - Worm
4. Zenno Rob-Roy - SSS - Anomalous - Child of Aquarius

To request an egg just ping me with corresponding number

-# due to the rules of supply and demand some eggs may take longer than others

[flint spire]

What’s the others 3 ? Is there an evil alien ?

[lucid beacon]

is the worm the titan one?

[lone pelican]

Yea

[lucid beacon]

my body is telling me to get goldship

[flint spire]

Yh I want the burrowing and child of Aquarius please ! I want the burrowing for such a long time 🔥🔥

Not a fan of giant worm 🤣🤣

[lucid beacon]

@lone pelican can i instead get Goldship and worm?

[lone pelican]

I'll put your name down

[lucid beacon]

thank you very much

[flint spire]

Oh ima do it the right way haha, @lone pelican can u add me on list for the 2 and 4 aswell pls 😅

[lone pelican]

[flint spire]

Tysm

[radiant meteor]

my guy went extinct :(

[heavy mortar]

Speaking of extinct creatures, anyone having a rare bug where a flying snake will spawn and you scan it and it's extinct? Additionally, scanning it will break all other flying creatures and prevent them from spawning, even if they're common and always active

[radiant meteor]

look at em, romeo and julia, and now there's only julia left :(

[heavy mortar]

This might be bugged. When were they not extinct?

[radiant meteor]

pre xeno

frankly i dont have acess to this planet anymore

so i cant check if they are still there

first photo is older

[hearty birch]

Is it possible your willing to gift a egg then?

[limber ore]

does anyone have some evolution pellets they dont need?

[fierce knot]

Hey I asked to about a worm. Is there anything you would like me to try and get for you like a resource or item I can farm

[lone pelican]

dont worry about it

[fierce knot]

Ok just wanted to offer

[limber ore]

wait, youre out and about? can we link for those eggs?

[lone pelican]

im here rn yea, just gotta do sm rq

[limber ore]

bet

we can add each other or i can send you planet glyphs, or you can send me yours

[lone pelican]

highk need to go to an airless world rq

just so i can get Golshi egg

i thought she was Verdant biome type like every other pet i've had

(she wasnt)

[limber ore]

try arid moons

ive of of my own in euxclid, just gotta 4ce spawn the portal

[lone pelican]

no airless is its own biome else I'd do it in system rn

[limber ore]

hmm

[lone pelican]

i got a base on a few airless planets

just gotta remember what one it is

[limber ore]

does anyone have elvolution pellets?

evolution*

[fierce knot]

I got 2

[limber ore]

u near a portal?

adding ppl is tedious

[lone pelican]

i got 10 dw i'll bundle em in

what eggs was it you wanted again

[limber ore]

the S tier horned and scuttler bio horrors

i leveled and mastered their B variants and i know what exact natures and movesets i want on them

[lone pelican]

wont be a problem, standby. Just patching some old drivers so I don't crash in game

[limber ore]

did you know that the horned variant can learn Phase Beam(anomally variant)?

and the scuttler can leanr landslide

[lone pelican]

alright you're on Euclid right?

[limber ore]

yezzir

[lone pelican]

alr shoot over Glyphs

[quiet sluice]

LOOK AT THIS BABYAYAYAYAYA

[lone pelican]

small handful of eggs

[lucid beacon]

adorable

[fierce knot]

Woah

[quiet sluice]

righththrh

[limber ore]

im teleporting to my glyphs portal now

[flint spire]

Damn 🤣

[limber ore]

diplo, sun, eclipse, atlas, sun, eclipse, bird, diplo, diplo, spiral, boat, whale

see you soon

[rough night]

Holy

[lone pelican]

just send a screenshot in nms media and oubg ne]

ping me*

jesus i cant spell

[lone pelican]

I'll get yours next

[lucid beacon]

@lone pelican will i get one today or tomorrow? cuz i won't be able to play for the next 2 hours

[lone pelican]

i can get yours today because turns out xbox did update

[lucid beacon]

ohhh i see, i'll ping u when i'm ready, i'm still at work

[lone pelican]

all good

[lucid beacon]

[lone pelican]

through the mystery portal i go

[limber ore]

thnx

you still got those pellets ?

[lone pelican]

my stack of 10 done a runner

[limber ore]

thats fine

youve done enough honestly

i genuinely appreciate it

[rough night]

Sweet thanks again:3

[limber ore]

if you need help lvling up your xenos i battle players often

[lone pelican]

aight shoot your code over

Q3GX-MV8W-TV1MG is mine

[limber ore]

i added you manually from menu

[rough night]

Added u

[lone pelican]

highkey corrupted my eggs

oopsy poopsy

which pet is it you wanted again

@limber ore hopefully those 2 eggs aren';t corrupted

[rough night]

Mambomambo

[lucid beacon]

i can't unhear mambo singin in my head

[lone pelican]

me when the

[rough night]

Haaaaachimiii

[lone pelican]

i can fix this lowk gimme a moment

[lucid beacon]

aaaaaaaaaaahhhhh

[lone pelican]

@rough night send your friendcode

else I can't join you

[rough night]

TM5P-QJR8-GG3NE

[lone pelican]

added, I will join you

and I am locked out my save rq

wonderful

hang on

[rough night]

Thanks you!

[lone pelican]

Im gonna update my list rq

Kitasan's Umamusume Fighting List

Expedition

1. Mambo - SSS - Toxic - Scuttling Horror
2. Goldship - SSS - Toxic - Burrowing Horror
3. Silence Suzuka - SSS - Desert - Worm
4. Zenno Rob-Roy - SSS - Anomalous - Child of Aquarius
5. Haru Urara - SSS - Mechanical - Hover Pet

Non Expedition
1A. Kitasan Black - SSS - Tropical - Arthropod
1B. Maruzensky - SSS - Radioactive - Antelope
1C. Satono Diamond - SSS - Radioactive - Cow

[flint spire]

Im on rn if i can claim my eggs 👀

[lone pelican]

you got it, uno momento por favor

[flint spire]

Perfecto 🔥

[lone pelican]

Goldships egg doesnt wanna well..work, I will need to give you that at a later date but I can give you

[flint spire]

Yh np 🔥

[lone pelican]

awesome send your friendcode across

mine is Q3GX-MV8W-TV1MG

[flint spire]

Idk how u do those but that’s awesome

KKA5-DSA7-F9YXR 👍

U join or I join ?

[lone pelican]

I'll join you

[flint spire]

🔥

Tysm man, do u want something ? I have some egg too

[lone pelican]

its fine

[flint spire]

Alright tysm then, ima wait for the burrowing impatiently 🤣🤣

[glacial wigeon]

wait do you just give these eggs out?

[lone pelican]

I suppose I do

[glacial wigeon]

Could I get a 3?

[surreal juniper]

hello are you still on?

[stray pivot]

Found my first triple S!!!

[surreal juniper]

nice job, i still didn't catch any like that yes only 2 s and 1 a

[stray pivot]

Same here before this one. I thought I was never gonna find one of my own, but I did, and you will too mate. Keep it up 🫡

[surreal juniper]

[lucid beacon]

@lone pelican u still on?

[lone pelican]

im off rn

[lucid beacon]

alright

[lusty flint]

Finally got a Radiation Butterfly at SSS. My god it was a nightmare

[stray pivot]

Do you have the Glyphs for it? I could use one of those for my team

[shell peak]

I just want any SSS grunt next

Would be nice if it was desert

[indigo mortar]

Anyone have this guy as an egg? I want skelly man

[heavy mortar]

okay so out of mobid curiosity, I did a test with both station challengers and trading station challengers:

1. I found a system with only two planets, one of which was empty (no fauna).
2. Scanned every creature on the only planet with fauna and logged their classes, types, and appearences.
3. Fought both station and trading station challengers.
4. RESULT: While NPC challengers do in fact use system creatures, they do not match the classes of the ones you scan

So now I wonder if that original raw data that someone found about class chances is actually for this and not what you find naturally

[distant geode]

Hi everyone!

[pure fiber]

Anyone know what works for coloration of critters in the sequencer?

I've tried a bunch of stuff but none change the percentages, stays at 0%

[tall stratus]

My 1st found SSS (anomalous) and its the ugliest thing I've ever seen. Killed on site. But here it is

[flint spire]

Big potential tho, bit of genetic and get a nice trex head with a nice color ! Ima do it haha ty for the loc

[tall stratus]

Must be a variant. In the discoveries it has a lizard mouth and a mushroom mane

[flint spire]

Ohh yh then ima really need to check it haha

[shell peak]

Never seen a flying quadruped

[pure fiber]

Thank you for posting this

[vivid coyote]

this happens when you try and dupe an egg

[covert remnant]

i met a guy at the anomaly, who kicked my ass

and made me re-think all i know about what skills are good or bad

but i finally beat him in the end!

but damn that enrage_crit is broken

and looks like it actually deals HEAVY dmg

and SELF_ABSORB with cd=2 is also broken

and dispels are really good

and Boundary Horror is very mid

[stray pivot]

Tropical plant walker

[tranquil zephyr]

considering crit is only a 1.33x multiplier on dmg and it only has a base chance of 15% (as far as I can see in files), it's good to run
better than giving the opponent a guaranteed ~1.3?x from the combat version

[covert remnant]

This shit also has 1600-1800 dmg base, its definitely not "average"

Maybe its supposed to be average but is bugged

Also it has 0% miss chance

Maybe that guy was just incredibly lucky idk

Got an egg from him, will see how it goes tomorrow

[heavy mortar]

alright, here's the chances after 500 scans

how many SSS did I find? one lol

not going to name anyone specific, but if someone is constantly finding SSS and non stop posting it (like more than 10 entries), I'd be suspcious of their methods of finding it (could be reverse seed search tool which does exist or just pulling from elsewhere)

as for the rest of us.... just go to existing finds

if you're going to try and make your entire team SSS out of only ones you find, you're looking at a MINIMUM of a thousand creature scans

I'm usually the "find it myself" player but the odds on this are just too low; it'll make me go insane

I'll still finish the logs and get to 1000 entries, but I need to take a break and do literally anything else

here's my work (note that not all glyphs have been added yet; I have the screenshots but have to align them and convert to numbers, and I can't stare at this page any longer): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iaXxnk_9pTLRcrIqBklPQvSq4A21JtIj8tIZIkvJLrM/edit?usp=sharing

[heavy mortar]

Also to clarify, I don't have an issue with how anyone chooses to obtain their finds, I just hope that people who post finds are honest about how they find them

because not everyone wants to use a cheated thing

if you have no issue with save editing or whatever, then go for it lol

[flint spire]

@shadow galleon found this one 👍 BBB tho but mmmmmm so good

[tranquil zephyr]

they may have changed some damage values around, but also my wording in the spreadsheet description was pretty hasty
in game files the moves have 6 ranges, will probably update the sheet to have that lingo instead soon

[shadow galleon]

How prettttttyyyy thooo! I love that white and black with iiit! Def gonna go get me one. D:

[plush loom]

я краба нашел

[flint spire]

Yh I have the same thought, little black line make everything haha, im gna need to know what item to use in genetic to make one

[shell peak]

Yay i found my first self discovered SSS

[shell peak]

I like that crab

[shadow galleon]

Maybe a noobish question--but if you find a species that is a B tier, does that mean all of that species on the planet are B tier every time or is there a chance individuals of that species may have higher tier if you wait/search for them? o;

[tranquil zephyr]

all creatures in a species per planet will have the same stats

[shadow galleon]

I thought as much, but I wanted to be sure. Thank you! ❤️

[limber ore]

thats an anomalous S tier trex variant, i'll go there and see if theres a different variant, theres normally at least 2

[limber ore]

atlas transport error?

[exotic pumice]

#nms-commands message

That coordinate leads to a purple star

Also, has anyone found any triple S anomalous creatures yet? I only found an AAS so far

[keen horizon]

I found one ASS and one SAS and many people have already found some SSS

[supple ice]

finally got my first SSS companion

[stray pivot]

For you or me?

[cloud grotto]

SAA Desert type fauna(found in south)

@unreal mesa @void heron

[lucid beacon]

yes

[rare bobcat]

oh well I was gonna go ask in the actual questions chat but that works

thanks

[lucid beacon]

no problem

[fluid monolith]

how do you get those pet titanworms?

[cyan valley]

Ouroboros ring pet

[cyan valley]

Looks like a jellyfish on land

[unreal mesa]

Where did you find that? Please show me, I will pay whatever price you ask

[tribal coral]

Past expedition reward or mods

[unreal mesa]

How do I use those glyphs?

[supple ice]

!Faq-PortalGlyphs

[vapid pivot]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:atlasnmscord:1269532093076078658> Unlocking the 16 Portal Glyphs

Glyphs are always unlocked in the same order. Completing the main storyline is the easiest and most hassle-free way to do so, but the player may also obtain glyphs from Traveler graves.

A) Through the main storyline mission named The Purge: perform 16 warps in any direction, to any system (despite what the quest objective says). Wait for the game to register the last warp, then warp out again. Type !faq-artemispath in #bot-spam for a list of missions.

B) Find Travelers in inhabited star systems, and for 100 nanites, ask them where they came from.
This will add a HUD marker to a grave location on one of the planets in the system: follow it and interact with the grave to obtain the next glyph. Please note that if multiple travelers are found in the same location/system, it won't be possible to get markers for all their graves in one go, you need to get one grave at a time.

C) Through the Eliminate Hazardous Flora Nexus mission. It is strongly recommended to do this with multiplayer disabled. As part of the mission, the player is led to a grave. Once located, do not interact with it but instead build and claim a base computer near by, then return to the Space Anomaly by reloading restore point or using on-foot quick menu shortcut (if available). Nexus missions refresh every 10 minutes, so if the mission is still available (or another of the same type has been added with the last refresh), the process can be repeated again. Once done with finding graves, they can easily be reached through any teleporter.

Run !Faq-Portal and !Faq-PortalUse in #bot-spam to learn more about portals and using them.

Contributors: Atlas Emissaries

[supple ice]

sorry

!Faq-Portal and !Faq-PortalUse

[vapid pivot]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

Locating a Portal

1. Obtain the race relic item to give to a Monolith, [see this post](#nms-questions message);
2. Locate a Monolith, [see this post](#nms-questions message);
3. Interact with the same Monolith twice to locate Portal, [see this post](#nms-questions message).

📚 Notes:

• Portals don't have to be unlocked via any quest.
• To fully use the portal network, the player must unlock all 16 portal glyphs and purple star systems.
  • Run !faq-portalglyphs and !faq-purplesystems in #bot-spam to learn more.
• A portal is not the same as a teleporter. (see image )
• For planets in uncharted systems, obtain the glyph address of that planet via photomode, and portal to it from another system.
  

Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[supple ice]

you need to have glyphs unlocked, find a monolith, make it happy and it will show you a portal where you punch in the glyphs, if you have exocraft with a radar it can find monolith

[fluid monolith]

oh thanks

[tribal coral]

Try ask for egg in #nms-lfg-or-trades

[fluid monolith]

gotcha

[ebon badge]

yoah What a beautiful collection! I need a desert arthropod (3sss).

[hearty birch]

Is it possible your willing to trade some of thoose?

[raw mantle]

Found a couple SSSs by revisiting my bases (their initial stats are kinda low tho, not sure if that matters):

Triple S/SSS Radioactive Translucent Strider - Euclid Galaxy

Triple S/SSS Mechanical Disc-Headed Robot Antelope - Euclid Galaxy

[lucid beacon]

this looks awesome

[rare bobcat]

Man ive been wanting to find a planet with those guys on my own for a while now

[lucid beacon]

is it possible to change the color of the translucent one thru egg sequencer?

[heavy mortar]

randomly found another SSS creature while galaxy hopping in permadeath; note you'll need the companion unlocker mod to adopt it

[raw mantle]

Yea, I saw someone made a blue one and I plan to try that tonight

[lucid beacon]

oh nice, imma have to make one to match my upcoming living ship

[fierce knot]

I did it i got a sss mechanical expedition pet. Took me lime 9hs but I did it

[heavy mortar]

9 hours of save resetting until it was SSS?

[fierce knot]

Yep at least

[heavy mortar]

yeah that sounds about right lol; I think my best approach to that, assuming they don't give us a way to upgrade pet classes, will be to start a new save and play up to the anomaly and then do all expedition pets at once (claim them all) until at least one is SSS; the rest would have to be discarded but that's why it's a new save

then trade to get it to my main save and/or trade with others for the other expediton pets

[fierce knot]

That is exactly what I did but I only have one expedition pet

[heavy mortar]

then repeat but this time ignore the eggs that I already got SSS on the other save

[fierce knot]

Then in 24hs I will get its egg and transfer it to my main

[heavy mortar]

I have all of them, but to be fair two of them aren't actually special and were later added as random encounters on some planets

[fierce knot]

Interesting

[heavy mortar]

the four legged skeleton pet and the two legged strider that is transparent

[fierce knot]

That makes sense i have seen people post locations for both

[heavy mortar]

and technically the worm pet isn't unique if you have a mod that lets you adopt anything

but honestly I'm probably just not even going to try and get expedition pets to SSS and just rely on existing finds and anything I find myself. SSS expediton pets are cool but I genuinely feel like if you use that against another player in the anomaly, they're just gonna assume you cheated it in even if you didn't lol

at least non-expedition SSS pets can be obtained easily by just going to existing finds

[fierce knot]

That's fair my I just didn't want my first pet to be just decorative. Holds a special spot for me thats all

[heavy mortar]

yeah that's fine

if I ever get any of the other expedition pets on SSS, I'll send you eggs

I actually have several previous saves at anomaly level due to running expeditions (they're old, from before you could run expeditions through existing saves). I'm gonna test something

[fierce knot]

It's nice as a newer player that they have let us replay a couple old expedition. Even though I know it ticks off some of the existing player

[heavy mortar]

okay so I've noticed that some expedition pets will have the same class every time, at least if you reload in the anomaly (not sure about leaving and re-entering). So far I've seen this with the grub and the sand worm

also confirmed with the quad and the horrifying creature (the swarm guy)

[lucid beacon]

how to replay expeditions?

[heavy mortar]

wait for reduxes at the end of the year or mods

[lucid beacon]

oh i see

[heavy mortar]

okay so I tried leaving and re-entering the anomaly and those pets that kept rerolling the same stats were still the same

it might be a case where restarting works but at that point I'm not even going to bother with that; I don't have enough patience lol

okay so these guys cannot be rerolled

not sure if it's bugged or not; genuinely don't know what's going on

but unless it's already SSS to start, don't bother with them if you're trying to get SSS expedition pets

what I don't know if this is just an issue on my end or if anyone else experienced this

looks like these two also can't be rerolled, at least for me

There also seems to be some weird behavior depending on the order you hatch the eggs in (if you're doing multiple at a time; obviously if one is SSS then the rest are just dead but that's what new saves are for)

like hatching all of them at once always results in both floating robots having the same class

which I guess is good if one rolls SSS

scratch that: it seems like any two eggs can have their classes identical if you hatch them close enough to each other

this is so weird

if someone else can verify on their end that'd help

but it's like if we could figure this out, then it could be possible to only have to get the first pet to be SSS and then all other eggs in your inventory will glitch out and be SSS too

but basically the trick seems to be to hatch them as quickly as you can; like just spam click

[ember silo]

Hi someone have a walker egg ?

[vivid coyote]

there's probably a timestamp element to it.. programmers like to randomize things based on the world clock.

(i suspect HG uses that to decide the class of ships as they land)

[heavy mortar]

I don't think I'd be fast enough if that was the case though, because any time in programming would be down to the milisecond

[vivid coyote]

not necessarily.

they could be using the minute mark

[heavy mortar]

nah they would all be the same then

it's like 2 are the same and 2 aren't, sometimes 3 are the same

but I'll try taking the eggs slower

hm... I took the eggs slower and none of them were the same, so that probably does play a factor, but I also think there's another factor going on because the two robot eggs I have are always the same no matter what

@vivid coyote okay I was wrong, I think you're on to something: i set the hold to click under accessibility to instant and now the eggs are always the same classes

currently testing with 4 eggs but I'm gonna switch to another save and up to like 5

this doesn't change the creatures that can't be re-rolled though, as documented earlier

[void heron]

thank youu

[mint comet]

How does the dye injector work?

[rough night]

Which battle ability is best to pour gene edits into?

[young goblet]

Triple S if someone is interested

[shell peak]

If i level up a creature, then get an egg from it, does the hatched offspring start back off at 0/30?

[shell peak]

oof. thats painful. so you really gotta gene sequence your thing before you pour a lot of time into it if you care to

[flint spire]

Yup 👍

[tepid drift]

What his wings look like?

[tepid drift]

Do you know where you found this guy?

[topaz dawn]

Right by the portal.

[tranquil zephyr]

it was in some reddit post, sorry I dont really remember exactly

[tepid drift]

Hmmm, would you happen to know which reddit group?

[tranquil zephyr]

just the main nms reddit page

[covert remnant]

did anyone figure out which planet Quad and Boundary Horror need to lay eggs?

its neigher Glitch nor Mega Red

[vale agate]

Hello all!
Anyone has a spare dragon egg?
Thank you!!

[inner oak]

It'll say "native climate" in their bios.

[tranquil zephyr]

these 2 new ones from Oceanus are a special case where they're either bugged or very picky about the specific planet type that has that climate
the other Oceanus pets work fine

[inner oak]

Maybe. I heard they have to be in a purple system for them to work right. That was days ago. Worth a shot. You might be right in them being broken for now.

[tranquil zephyr]

from the game files iirc it said red & blue but tbh idek

[inner oak]

Or maybe intentional. Maybe HG want people to play for them and not recieve eggs from other players?

[tranquil zephyr]

nah cause you can make the other ones lay eggs no problem
they even fixed the robot egg glitch to make shrimp tank's eggs work so (after months of the glitch being in the game)

I thought that at first but they didn't do it with expedition pets so I dont see why they'd start now

[inner oak]

Ah. Wondering if it's the same line of code that broke the shrimps.

[tranquil zephyr]

plus I mean there's already a mod that makes them all free in the Oceanus shop anyway lol

[inner oak]

It's probably some weird coding oversight. I'd experiment with the different biomes. Maybe they're listed with the wrong biome. I don't have them unlocked so I couldn't tell you.

[sharp summit]

what causes a pet to trigger high indepence move every turn? is it true having two stats at 1% and independence at 100% force high indepence moves to trigger more?

[foggy wyvern]

Trust 100% aswell likely

[tranquil zephyr]

unclear what fully determines the final weighting, but I can tell you the base percent chance for a bonus move is 6.6%, so you're probably just getting very lucky with the proc
but yes having the other 2 personality traits at ~0% will cause the third to be the only one to trigger vast majority of the time, it's likely all 3 traits are split between the 6.6%

[sharp summit]

So having all the stats at 100% is a detriment if one is aiming for higher chance at random skill triggers?

[foggy wyvern]

I just had a match where 2 of the 3 I fought. Each of his turns, and I mean every end of his turn triggered high independence for 51% accuracy debuff.

[tranquil zephyr]

possibly, but very likely yes

[foggy wyvern]

I cleansed the stacking 2, but then it's back to his turn and was hit with accuracy debuff again at his end turn

[tranquil zephyr]

I have played a ton of the xeno arena, and I've had many many games in a row where I never get the proc even when my pets have personality stats all near 100%, or 50%, or 0%, or all over the place (I no-lifed tf outta the total wins milestone)
it's just chance

[sharp summit]

Twelve turns of chance happening in each one is a lot of chance

[foggy wyvern]

Same brother. It's the nastiest thing I've ever seen. I went 12 turns before I forfeit. I only kept going because I have cleanse on 2 pets.

Every. Single. Turn.

I'm not joking

[tranquil zephyr]

unfortunately the actual game logic calculations for determining the bonus move proc isn't listed in game files
or at least I haven't found it in any of the obvious places where it should be
so can't do much abt it

[foggy wyvern]

I think if one can breed a creature with high independence and low behaviors in everything else. High trust maybe a factor. It'll rule the duel tables Yugi.

[tranquil zephyr]

until you meet a save editor player lol

[foggy wyvern]

Which is what I was sorta hinting at c;

[sharp summit]

Me ;x

[tranquil zephyr]

I haven't looked into whether save editor can change the proc chance on the bonus moves
I don't use it, so

[foggy wyvern]

I only saw 2 of the 3. But each one. Every. Single. Turn. Accuracy debufff as bonus.

[sharp summit]

i'm asking that community too

[robust gyro]

Will two companions of the same type have access to all the moves? For example will two fire type companions have access to all fire based moves?

[rich bay]

I dont think so, there are more than 5 moves per type

can I use the egg sequencer to improve the class or will the egg always have the same class

[tranquil zephyr]

always the same

[rich bay]

thats a shame

someone gifted me an abyssal horror egg before the upfate but its only C C B

[tranquil zephyr]

all moves are standardized, all individual creatures should have access to all moves afaik
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1slufm3/complete_xeno_arena_movelist/#lightbox

[mystic compass]

Wait is it true u can get an egg from someone who has done expo 4?

[patent sonnet]

Completing an expedition doesn't stop you from being able to give companion eggs to other players. Are you asking if somebody can give you a companion egg of the creature awarded from Exp 4?

I could maybe give it, if I can figure out the new weird companion data structure

[fathom berry]

Fire SSS if anyone interested

[mystic compass]

If u cool with it then yes plsss

[hearty birch]

Im interrested

[heavy mortar]

I don't think anyone has found an SSS roller, at least publicly lol

Was hoping for an SSS tumble weed

But rollers are already rarer than other creatures

[robust gyro]

What does the creature look like?

[flint spire]

My friend did

U speak about the big ball right ?

[tribal coral]

They have quite few forms

[flint spire]

Yh I see that, made an egg and genetic modification, got a wheel 🤣

Ima ask my friend for the loc of the ball 👍

Btw let me repost those I found, I don’t think I post them here already

[shell peak]

So far the only SSS I've found myself are a platypus looking thing, and a dik-dik (tiny antelope type), and maybe a weird lumpy cow. I really want to find myself a hermit crab.

[flint spire]

Just find a new one, pretty cool ! Need a bit of genetic to be perfect !

[tired seal]

So a few days ago, the egg sequencer allowed you to decrease size. For the last three or four days, any material I put in the egg sequencer only increases size. Has anyone had a different experience in the last three or four days? If not, has anyone heard any chatter about it being fixed?

[prime gate]

Its not infinite, its hard capped at either end, as is every other aspect of the sequencer other than re-rolling physical parts like heads/legs/wings/etc.

[tired seal]

Totally understand that, but no matter what fresh egg I put in there, I can only get options to increase size, even when I use Cobalt, which is known for decreasing it, and any other material I've tried. It's literally tried all of them.

[prime gate]

OK, thats odd. Have you closed to desktop and rebooted?

[tired seal]

Yea h it has not worked for 3 or 4 days

[tired seal]

If you happen to have another egg, feel free to give it a shot. I'd love to see if you're getting different results than the other people and myself.

No need to actually go through with sequencing it, just put it in the sequencer and add the material to see if it says it will decrease size. For me and others, it's only showing increase, even for materials that are known to decrease. ( Like cobalt )

[prime gate]

I won't get a chance to for a few hours, but I'll keep an eye on it when I do!

[tired seal]

Thank you very much!

[tired seal]

Hey, No worries at all! It is working again!!

I am soo excited I have like 8 eggs ready to sequence!

[obtuse summit]

copper decrease size fyi

[tired seal]

Thank you xamzast!

[obtuse summit]

also if you look into this channel pinned message

there is a table for material effect

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816575988858224650/1372873552205709352/IMG_6394.jpg?ex=69e74821&is=69e5f6a1&hm=dd70ff7bb0cde315d9ec768d601c3b3a474f04196a44e039fafb3a3a0cdc4e30

[tired seal]

Awesome!

[obtuse summit]

i've made my mini giant bug with copper he's like 40cm tall instead of 8m^^

[tired seal]

Awww, super cute!

[flint spire]

Yo I didn’t think of it ima need to do one they are so cute omg !

My 0,2cm blob 😂😂😂

[lucid beacon]

is it possible to change a fauna's body part or nah?

thru egg sequencer

[flint spire]

Yup

[lucid beacon]

like the legs and torso?

[flint spire]

Different for every creature so u will need to test

[lucid beacon]

i see

[flint spire]

Legs yh, torso idk tbh

[lucid beacon]

i see i see

thank you

do i put it on gene splitter to change body parts?

[obtuse summit]

Yes

[flint spire]

I can tell u some, having 150% gold on mechanical walker give mine the 2 light tube back, giving 150% gold give smooth tail instead of the long one on butterfly , 150% gold on translucid strider give mine the big mouth, only tried that cuz I loved final form but im gna do more test when I will have egg

[lucid beacon]

i see, thank you for the info, i wanted to test some on a diplo

[flint spire]

Yay i catch a diplo yesterday need to wait later to make an egg and test tomorrow too

[obtuse summit]

Lol even circled i don't see him^^

[flint spire]

I know 😂😂😂

[lucid beacon]

i can't even see with the circle lol

[flint spire]

It’s really hard to see him even in spatial station 😂

Let me take a picture

[obtuse summit]

BTW if someone find or see a desert SSS giant bug, be it coordinates or someone willing to give an egg, its the last one i'm missing for my "battle pet mini giant bug team"

[flint spire]

I feel like he is a bit bigger in station than on planet tbh

[obtuse summit]

OK he's very Small AND transparent, that doesn't help XD

[lucid beacon]

oh my god he's adorable

[flint spire]

Ty haha ima try to make an army of little blob with alien/arachne eyes 😂😂

[flint spire]

Yup😂

[surreal horizon]

I would hold him like a kitten

[flint spire]

This one is so cute too haha

[flint spire]

Can give u an egg if u want 😁

[surreal horizon]

I'm good, thanks

[flint spire]

😁👍

[barren basin]

Anyone know where i can find pet like this, but all S

[tall stratus]

I know they've been posted before

Check the Scottish guys on youtube

🤷‍♂️

[shadow galleon]

Is it possible that some pets can't decrease in size through the egg sequencer? When I add different things that, from what I've researched (and it could be obsolete research, I'll admit. ><) should be decreasing size, it always shows it's going to increase instead? >:

[flint spire]

Spieces seem to have different min/max size

[shadow galleon]

Thank you! ❤️

[flint spire]

😋😋

[drifting rock]

finally found a big one

[rich bay]

check the nms coordinate exchange subreddit

[raw mantle]

#nms-fauna message
You can can get a blue one by getting an egg, putting it in the Sequencer and putting Dihydrogen in the Dye Injector

[jagged plaza]

Would anyone be interested in these guys?

They do have an alternative on the same planet

[rich bay]

I have one. They were very difficult to catch

[covert remnant]

tried red didnt work 🙁

[jagged plaza]

Would this be considered a top tier pet? (He's still a baby)

[flint spire]

Since u can reroll capacity any pet can be top tier 😁 just find those u like the most 😁

But I wouldn’t say it’s some good capacity except the stun one, every other capacity have better capacity possibilities

[covert remnant]

i believe all the personality traits should be the opposite to be actually top tier

[covert remnant]

i believe the "real" top tier should have the following attack set

1. basic elemental (not phys)
2. 3-hit or ramping with cd=1
3. any dispel, or "high dmg +crit to opponent", or "delayed high dmg"
4. shield + heal or %absorb + heal (u have this one)
5. element swap or any selfdestruct, or debuff accuracy

[covert remnant]

a red planet in a purple system also didnt work

[tranquil zephyr]

yeah idk then

[covert remnant]

gonna find a blue planet in a purple system to finish the search

[jagged plaza]

I just fought someone in anomaly and their companion was self casting -68% accuracy debuffs on my guy that would last 6 turns. How the hell do i get to that level.

It was literally bonus moves

[covert remnant]

swap creature
or have a self-dispel

i dont like self-dispel since it takes slot4 and slot4 has shields, which are the most powerful moves cuurently

[surreal horizon]

As long as you have those available for your creature (not every creature has this obviously), you should be fine, but swapping creatures is a faster method at the expense of a turn, unless that creature has higher agility.

[jagged plaza]

Problem was i did swap creature. It was doing that bonus move every turn

[surreal horizon]

It CAN be beneficial if used correctly. For example, if you want to finish the creature off before a deadly attack kicks in, it can work out.

[jagged plaza]

The only reason i lasted at all was because i was absorbing all the damage he was doing when he wasn't making me innacurate

[surreal horizon]

That shouldn't be happening constantly, it's random chance.

[covert remnant]

ah, the bonus move
thats why i told u u need the opposite personality traits
it comes from high gentleness IIRC

also i dont remember it being 6! turns and happening every turn

maybe ur opponent cheated their creature in some way

or just got very lucky

[jagged plaza]

Was definitely not random chance. Seeing 6 turns of -68% accuracy stacked multiple times on my guy was heartbreaking

[covert remnant]

yea either luck or cheating

i dont remember stacking bonus moves ever

[surreal horizon]

There are people who use save edits, I'm lucky to get multiple in a single battle. I get one every few battles.

Stacking? Absolutely not. Never had that scenario unless it's something I previously applied. It typically happens when a creature uses something to strengthen their attack, then my creature uses it as a bonus on them.

[covert remnant]

found blue in purple, still no eggs
i guess they are just bugged for now
should zendesk it probably

[jagged plaza]

I mean surely people aren't save editing creatures to have 100% chance for bonus moves to always be accuracy debuffs every turn for roughly 40 turns

[surreal horizon]

You'd be surprised.

[jagged plaza]

Mannnnnn

[surreal horizon]

Save editing hits everything this game has to offer and what the game will offer whenever the next update hits. When Xeno Arena first came out, this was another thing for them to hit, and many of us who play the game normally were concerned.

[jagged plaza]

This was the only way i was still in after all that time lol. When it reaches i think 3 turns left, i can slap another one on and suddenly my guy is healing from every attack that lands on him

[surreal horizon]

That does work very well. Also, if you're creature agility is high enough, it'll pretty much negate it, cause it does store negative values, it just never shows below 0%

[jagged plaza]

Also i see people saying i can get the same ability on the same pet to somehow be stronger? How do i do that. If i can get more turns than 7 or a higher absorb rate 👀

[surreal horizon]

I believe that's available once you max out the base abilities (Level 30). I haven't gotten there yet, but I will be grinding more of my creatures out this week.

[covert remnant]

yea this move is absolutely nuts

[jagged plaza]

Yeah but i tried rerolling it and i kept getting the same % and duration

[covert remnant]

just reroll a lot
not sure if u can get different numbers on a same creature tho
7 turns if def max, but % can be a bit higher, to 29 or maybe even 30+

[jagged plaza]

Yeah i got a 29% 6 turns on my toxic guy

[covert remnant]

and annoying thing about rerolling is that u cant see CD in the pet journal

[jagged plaza]

Hmmm... so logically speaking i should aim for multiple lvl 30, reroll their abilities until i see the % and duration or damage numbers i want to see, then breed it for best size and personality?

[covert remnant]

its really annoying if we cant reroll numbers on a same creature, it means we cant really optimize the pets we want

[jagged plaza]

I'm fairly certain we can't

[covert remnant]

smallest, helpful, gentle, independent

[jagged plaza]

10 rerolls of the same ability, and i see the same absorb % and duration 4 times. I think it won't change

[covert remnant]

but no, u start with an egg, mutate it, then hatch and upgrade the creature

not sure if the abilities are copied from parent to the egg

yesterday i got an egg from "high dmg + crit to enemy" attack

but i hatched "high dmg + power to enemy"

[jagged plaza]

I feel like they would be

I mean the overall base top capacity

As in the child can reroll to the same damage and crit chance ability

exact same numbers

[covert remnant]

dunno, its seed dependent, and i dont know how seeds are changed between parent and child

[heavy mortar]

So going back to this, how do you make the glyphs and galaxy show in the in game chat? And why not just take a regular screenshot?

[covert remnant]

sounds convincing

[jagged plaza]

Also can you explain to me why you prefer this?

[covert remnant]

well i had this happen to me today, so....

[jagged plaza]

Hmmm

Idea

[covert remnant]

small gives agility, big gives HP. agility is better because of turn order and dodge chance
and those traits just have better effects than opposites

[sharp summit]

to revisit some of the above, i tried to replicate this with my own pets with so far no success for this exact situation even with mirrored stats.

[jagged plaza]

mmmm, combat effectiveness doesn't really strike me as useful as a guaranteed damage though. They can just choose to not attack and instead buff or prepare for a bigger attack. It's what i do

[flint spire]

Not my screenshot, he probably got it by saving the pet on personnal wonders

[covert remnant]

oh so the same conversation happened last night too

[heavy mortar]

Oh

[covert remnant]

then yea its probably cheaters

[heavy mortar]

Who is cheating?

[covert remnant]

ppl who apparently modify bonus ability chances in their pets to dominate arena battles

[flint spire]

Made this one, starting with a little blob and give him 150% surcharges of Gold

[jagged plaza]

How are people breeding and hatching their eggs so fast

[covert remnant]

wdym

[heavy mortar]

I've seen nothing but horror stories from the anomaly over save edited pets. I think if HG gave us a way to upgrade pets to SSS then it wouldn't be so common. I'm not even going to try battling over players in the anomaly on normal mode

[flint spire]

Catch a pet- wait 24h- make an egg- w8 24h ect, wait 4-5 days to make an egg from a pet that u just opened

[heavy mortar]

I will try on perma death though

[covert remnant]

is perma death immune to save editing? or does it have separate anomaly lobbies?

[jagged plaza]

Well i'm on permadeath and i see people that are playing on survival so

[covert remnant]

whoops

[heavy mortar]

No but it does have it's own lobbies and I think (hope) that it has less cheaters

[tranquil zephyr]

companion pet unlocker mod

[heavy mortar]

I've never seen a non PD player in the anomaly on PD; check your game settings

[covert remnant]

well good thing we can just FF a match with a cheater and not play with them again
i hope after it keeps happening to them they just get bored and stop

[heavy mortar]

Survival does not share a lobby with PD; Survival shares a lobby with normal and creative

[covert remnant]

but for now, if PD has PD-only lobbies, it might be the only "competitive" arena environment

[heavy mortar]

It does

[jagged plaza]

Wait i thought skull with the locked symbol was permadeath and only skull is survival

[heavy mortar]

No

Survival doesn't even have a skull icon

[covert remnant]

survival is atlas icon

[heavy mortar]

Survival is like a compass or something like that

[heavy mortar]

Atlas is normal

[covert remnant]

no wait its normal

[jagged plaza]

What is this then

[covert remnant]

yea the compass

[heavy mortar]

PD locked settings

[sharp summit]

Yeah, it happened where every single turn was with a bonus action triggered. I edited my save to mirror those same stats to the best of my ability, trying to replicate the situation, but so far nothing has worked.

[sharp summit]

permadeath save

[heavy mortar]

There's a little bit of flexibility in PD settings but not enough to cheat

Like you can't turn on free crafting

[covert remnant]

u can self-lock ur settings to prevent urself from changing them
tho i thought permadeath is locked by default. is it not? u can opt ur save out of it?

[jagged plaza]

:o

[heavy mortar]

It's not locked by default but you can't make it not perma death

[jagged plaza]

I can make it more difficult! hell yeah!

[covert remnant]

oh i get it now

[jagged plaza]

I guess i couldn't until i accessed the anomaly

[heavy mortar]

It has a few minor things you can change, all of which would be making it more difficult lol

[jagged plaza]

when i started my permadeath it wouldn't let me turn up the difficulty

[heavy mortar]

I still use my normal save, but PD has kind of become my main save now because it's the only mode where there is a real player economy (because you can't turn on free anything)

Like I'm not even bothering with xeno arena stuff in my normal save other than looking for SSS to go get on PD

I do a lot of scouting/exploration on normal because it's safe and then I save the glyphs for PD and hope there's no surprise aggressive sentinels lol

[jagged plaza]

Can we still come across non PD people in the open world?

[heavy mortar]

No

Only if you're also on PD

[jagged plaza]

Oh. So there's even less of a chance for me to encounter someone randomly

[heavy mortar]

Correct

[jagged plaza]

Cool. Now how to find out how to start interacting with fellow Permadeaths for that economy

[heavy mortar]

Anomaly and #nms-lfg-or-trades

I always see at least one other player in the anomaly in PD

It's not filled to the brim with activity like normal but there's usually at least one guy there

[jagged plaza]

8 people in the anomaly i'm in rn

[heavy mortar]

Just god forbid if you're gonna go afk in the anomaly with multiplayer on in PD for any reason whatsoever, sit on the chairs in the back by the egg sequencer

Do not sit on the floor lol

[jagged plaza]

Why?

[heavy mortar]

PD may have less cheaters but not sure about less trolls lol

[heavy mortar]

When you come back, yog may not be in the anomaly anymore lol

[jagged plaza]

What you mean. How are they gonna troll me when I'm sitting down

What

[heavy mortar]

Sitting on the floor lets other players push you around

[jagged plaza]

oh god

[heavy mortar]

You may end up in someone's corvette

It's an issue in normal mode too but at least there it's not as dangerous

If you sit in a chair then you can't be pushed around

[covert remnant]

Lmao
Nms kidnapping is real

[heavy mortar]

@ember wave so this is incomplete but gives some insight https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iaXxnk_9pTLRcrIqBklPQvSq4A21JtIj8tIZIkvJLrM/edit?usp=sharing

Hang on let me get on pc

@ember wave so I've been trying to get to the bottom of creature class statistics since the update first came out. Here's my findings so far combined with some mbin data someone found and stuff posted here:
-The mbin data discovered (I've also unpacked the files but am still searching) puts the chances as follows.... I can't find the post. I think someone deleted it. I don't remember the exact details but it was a screenshot. Now I'm wondering if that was fake.

sorry my whole write up here for you got messed up lol

I was gonna post the reddit link to the mbin find and now it's gone

[ember wave]

it's alright no worries

i find it fun to dig for those things as well, so i might eventually find it

i probably just been looking in the wrong place lol

[heavy mortar]

I'll go ahead and share the rest of my finds though, so stay tuned here

-One thing I do remember from the reddit post, assuming it was correct, is that S class was a 15% chance on any stat, which calculates to a ~0.33% for all three stats to be S class. The total class is determined by the individual classes so there's no chance on that one.
-NPCs do in fact use creatures from the system (unsure what happens if no creatures are available, like 2 dead planets), but the classes do not match. Part of me wonders if the mbin find I was talking about earlier was for their chances at base level (not champions) rather than what you find in the wild.
-All creature classes are determined when the egg is created, not hatched. Additionally, you CANNOT change any classes by egg sequencing and the child will always have the same classes.
-Going off the previous egg thing, expedition pets claimed in the anomaly have their stats defined as soon as you click the egg to claim it, not when it goes in your inventory or hatches. The rng also appears based on the time down to the second, but not the milisecond or minute. If you spam click as fast as you can on multiple expedition egg rewards, they will also have the same classes, allowing you to possibly get all of them to SSS at the same time
-There does not appear to be any correlation with star color, planet type, galaxy type, or biome for creature classes, but I may not have enough data to verify that.

But for people asking in #nms-questions about chances to find SSS, it's probably the ~0.33 which is horrible (talking from- HEY

@foggy brook

ruining my mojo lol

as I was saying, the 0.33% feels accurate based on my own findings (I've found TWO SSS, but only one is logged because the other was found randomly while not logging and not in Euclid).

[obtuse summit]

What élément is its? Is it SSS?

[heavy mortar]

But honestly finding your own SSS, at least more than once or twice, is abysmal. At 0.33, it's the lowest chance compared to everything else in the game, even lower than getting an S class frighter at the 1% chance in 2 star economy systems. You need to be honest with people in #nms-questions about this or they're going to get burned

Normally I'm a "find everything myself" player; I gave up on this after 500 entries into my log, although I still plan to finish the log at a thousand

[heavy mortar]

Statistically probably not lol

[jagged plaza]

is 100% independent, 100% helpful, 100% aggressive, 0.1m, SSS, considered a good companion then?

[heavy mortar]

If you're not familiar with the math though, the probability formula works like this:
x * x * x, where x is the probability of the individual class, so for S, which we know is 15%, is 0.15 * 0.15 * 0.15; you can mix and match that with other values like 0.15 * 0.25 * 0.25 for something like SAA

at a 0.33 chance, you are not really guranteed to get a find until around a thousand+ scans lol

I still do wonder though if star color has any affect or if other things influence this; I still think that original mbin post on reddit was related to npcs, not naturally spawning creatures

but for anyone rerolling expedition pets by reloading your save constantly in the anomaly: don't do one egg at a time if you have multiple; do them all (but probably not more than 5) because if you click fast enough, they'll all have the same class, meaning you only have to get SSS once for all of them to be SSS

@ember wave oh also, one more thing (sorry for another ping), regarding the statistics chart I sent you: I do have the glyphs for the systems at the bottom, I just haven't put them in yet although it's possible I fucked them up because I do it by taking a screenshot and then put them in at the end, not during the logging (I go off the order of the screenshots lol) but I don't think it'll matter; it was mostly for people to check my work but I doubt anyone is actually going to do that lol. Also, the adoptable yes/no is yes if you can adopt it in vanilla, no if it requires the companion unlocker mod. Note that surprisingly the classes show for unobtainable pets if you have the mod on, which is how I logged though. I will add that glowing fish are not working so those are not counting, and I only recently fixed prawns to make them adoptable by editing the mod myself.

OH and last thing hopefully:
Some creature categories have locked types regardless of what planet it's on. Known ones so far:
-The flying geometric shapes will ALWAYS be anomalous.
-Bone creatures will always be tropical.
-Bone cats (the rock looking monster) will always be tropical.
-Flower creatures (the walking plants) will always be tropical.
-Flying snakes/worms will always be desert.

This is why the type doesn't always match the planet in my chart

[flint spire]

Found like 5 😂😂

[ember wave]

@heavy mortar thank you for all this, read it all - very informative and interesting!

[heavy mortar]

You clearly have more free time than me lol

[ember wave]

-Bone cats (the rock looking monster) will always be tropical.
yeah, i saw a bone cat on lava and it was tropical 😅

[flint spire]

Possible 😂

[heavy mortar]

I'm honestly not sure if the type locking with those creatures is a bug or not. There's some weird stuff going on, especially with expedition pets. Like some expedition pets cannot be rerolled like the worm will always have the same class even if you reload your save or restart the game

[jagged plaza]

@heavy mortar Do you also think gentle+helpful+independent = best companion?

[mild narwhal]

What is the solution Pliz

[heavy mortar]

If you dig around in my messages here you can find my ramblings on expedition pets that can't be rerolled

[heavy mortar]

I don't know; I've been focused entirely on class statistics, not personality stuff

[ember wave]

not sure if the type locking with those creatures is a bug or not.
i'm probably going to submit feedback on it, it could be something they just had to accept doing. feels weird having a tropical pet on a scorched, or lava.. or cold.. right? lol

[heavy mortar]

but if you want to help me bk, I need someone else to test and verify if some expedition pets can't be rerolled because I'm not sure if it's just me or not

in my case, the following can't be rerolled:
-glowing strider
-grub (bug thing, not the horror you find in derelicts)
-skeleton creature
-worm from the titan expediton
-horrifying creature (the green guy that spawns around abandoned buildings if you touch the eggs)
-the quad sentinel

I don't remember the classes of the others but I do remember that the titan worm is always AAA for me

also the two hovering robots seem to always have the same class as whichever one is hatched first, but not dependent on how quickly I clicked them in the menu. There's something weird going on with those two pets in particular and in relationship to each other

[flint spire]

Idk about that but I can tell u that reward from Oceanus can’t reroll their capacity, it’s always between the one that showed up when hatched and another capacity that have 500 dmg

[heavy mortar]

Also the egg itself, at least in the anomaly, seems to have it's own class lol

So if you're using the scanner, it might show as sone class and then instantly change to another when the egg shell despawns

[flint spire]

Btw ur such my boy, check my fav Pokémon card that I own 🤭

[heavy mortar]

Not a boy

Just a girl who likes data in no mans sky and probability

[flint spire]

Then ur my girl haha 😂😂

[covert remnant]

• my worm from exp4 (its Emergence btw, not Titan. Titan was permadeath one) is also AAA
• the burrowing green biohorror is BAC
• the autophage disk is BSC (came first)
• the sentry ball is CCC (came later)
• the quad dog is BBC
  got rid of others since they can be found in the wild

• my Child of Helios is CCB btw

[heavy mortar]

Yeah I think that matches

The others can be rerolled

Sentry ball cam be rerolled

[covert remnant]

by "rerolling" here u mean?...

[heavy mortar]

I had it and its pancake sibling at SSA before giving up lol

[heavy mortar]

Go into the anomaly, preferably with multiplayer off, and make sure your save is in the anomaly. Then go talk to googley eyes and claim your expedition pet(s). Hatch them and check classes. Don't like the classes? Reload your save and repeat

[covert remnant]

Ah

Those were claimed long ago anyway

[heavy mortar]

But some pets, like the worm, will always have the same classes and I'm not sure why

[covert remnant]

But yea with 0.33% chance its kinda pointless anyway

[covert remnant]

Fixed seed?

[heavy mortar]

I was doing it on my pd save where I hadn't claimed them

Rerolled for a few hours then gave up, but will try again later

Someone here said it took them 9 hours to get SSS robo mouse

[covert remnant]

They may be smth like special type with 0x1 seed, like Golden Vector

[patent sonnet]

Maybe some of them have fixed SpeciesSeeds (seed that determines stats) and some have random ones cuz it doesn't matter for them

would make sense for the worm, which is technically procedural, to have consistent seed stuff

[covert remnant]

Im surprised that hoverers are not like that btw

[heavy mortar]

Possibly, but it's inconsistent because some of them have wild spawns like the worm and they're not fixed

And completely new species like robo mouse are not fixed

[covert remnant]

Yea also worm egg can ge gene splitted into another version

[patent sonnet]

This matches what I said as it's not a procedural thing

[covert remnant]

But i believe theres only 1 alter version

[heavy mortar]

Actually that might make sense from that perspective because they want it to always look the same

Does not explain quad or horror though

[patent sonnet]

are quad and horror fixed?

[heavy mortar]

Yes

[covert remnant]

It does make sence imo

[heavy mortar]

Grub is fixed too

[covert remnant]

Who tf is grub btw xD

[heavy mortar]

Brood mother thing but tiny

[patent sonnet]

then maybe they just didn't worry about the ones that weren't procgen, and it's a happy accident that the ones that have random SpeciesSeeds have them

[covert remnant]

Aaah