#nms-the-future | No Man's Sky | Page 70

raven hamlet Jul 5, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Spitting facts

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 12:09 AM

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oh no, you're right.

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but the psvr was behind everyone else

raven hamlet Jul 5, 2021, 12:09 AM

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Sorta just means the next gen will be ahead no?

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 12:09 AM

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you hope.

raven hamlet Jul 5, 2021, 12:10 AM

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I do

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Or I'm gonna swap to pc

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 12:10 AM

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i hold no hopes on it. if it turns out good? cool

raven hamlet Jul 5, 2021, 12:10 AM

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I have nms on steam sooooo

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2 buttons

mortal sinew Jul 5, 2021, 1:25 AM

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some way to custom make starships and other space vessels, perhaps variable sizes of shipyards where with the materials and units you could make your own custom ships,frigates and freighters even, however there is a twist....you dont have any part blueprints but you can go try to find an abandoned shipyard where there is strange loot and an environment similar to those of derelict freighters but in the end of your journey there you can get a part blueprint maybe its a cockpit,wings even engine layout, maybe even the weapon placement of your frigate or the storage style of the freighter your trying to construct. not only does this promote more customization and gives the game more replayability it also adds another incentive to explore

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 1:32 AM

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see my previous scrap/salvage idea 😄

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find ship you like, fix it up to make it more stable, then higher chance of getting viable pieces off it

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due to size contraints, maybe the pieces would have to be stored on your freighter, or some other large vehicle

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it could even add another vendor, a shady alien who can get you ship parts for "cheap" that may not be the best looking, or bring down your ship stats

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or raise said stats if you get a good roll

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"hey, i got these nice wings you were looking for"

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Piss yellow.

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me : "Hrm... thats definitely the kind of wing i want... but that color..."

light hill Jul 5, 2021, 1:41 AM

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Their biggest failing was not merging the move controller with the navigation controller. Adding back the analog sticks to each move controller.

The Aim gun controller is brilliant! Farpoint plays beautifully with it. As does Arizona Sunshine.

And yes, I feel you on the stupidly low res screens.

I have a 55" 4k HDR OLED that's utterly gorgeous, and I plays NMS in PSVR... on my Playstation 5!

Ugh. 2022 and PSVR 3 cannot come fast enough.

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 1:41 AM

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well the problem is, that move controller?

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it's from ps3

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or ps2?

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the one the original camera was for

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so is the camera, they just changed the outward design

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"hey look we took those controllers we had and made vr"

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go look up how many "vr" games actually use said move controllers

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and how many are headset and ds4

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which, i personally do not think of as "vr"

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it's camera on a swivel, and not immersive

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it's also good at being NAUSEATING

light hill Jul 5, 2021, 1:44 AM

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Agreed.

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 1:45 AM

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that';s also part of my problem with elite dangerous VR.... "here;s 45 controls. No you don't use vr controllers for it. "

light hill Jul 5, 2021, 1:45 AM

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The head tracking issue is the worst. I keep having to reset it as it can drift over 60° to one side!

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 1:45 AM

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at that point, make them switches and buttons inside the ship.

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if i need to traverse 6 sub-menus to TURN OFF THE GROUND LOCK

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then just make it a switch i can flip inside the cockpit

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Honestly i would love to see the vr cockpits of NMS more interactive like that

light hill Jul 5, 2021, 1:46 AM

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light hill The head tracking issue is the worst. I keep having to reset it as it can drift ...

Fortunately this isn't constant, or every session.

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 1:46 AM

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like instead of my thumb button for pulse drive, gimme a switch that turns red when i'm too close to a planet or freighter

light hill Jul 5, 2021, 1:46 AM

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sullen grove Honestly i would love to see the vr cockpits of NMS more interactive like that

100%

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 1:46 AM

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and there's legitimately a EJECT handle in most cockpits

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Can't use it.

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just die in space battle instead

light hill Jul 5, 2021, 1:47 AM

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Heheh. Wheeeeee MF.... YEET!

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 1:47 AM

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exactly

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IF you were new, and in a crappy ship, and getting your ass handed to you

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"screw this, i'm out. ship go boom."

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yank

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ejector pod that lands you on a nearby planet

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then maybe you'd have to wait for a "landed pilot" and ask to buy his ship

light hill Jul 5, 2021, 1:48 AM

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I'd love that.

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 1:48 AM

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or ask for a ride to the station

light hill Jul 5, 2021, 1:48 AM

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Heheh yeah.

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 1:48 AM

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imagine if it was a gek, and you have bad standing with gek

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pay through the nose just to get a ride

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vykeen, you'd probably have to punch him or something to get his respect

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and korvax would be like "can i have a sample of your DNA?"

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"Sure buddy.. if you give me a ride you can have some blood, weirdo.."

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plus like i said earlier, full body support would be nice, because most cockpits (including exocraft) have pedals

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ya know, for feet.

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and if you don't have full body, of course the other buttons work

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ahah. relevant image

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EJECT HANDLE

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and above it?

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oh look

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PULSE DRIVE BUTTON

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because it's something you wouldn't want to hit by accident, you'd want to be like "course clear? not gonna hit a space station? Yep. Okay hit the red button"

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ZOOM

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Another eject handle

supple warren Jul 5, 2021, 3:03 AM

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speaking of cockpit stuff:
-fix the planet name clipping in explorers pls
-add exocraft first-person camera sensitivity settings
-exclude weather effects & filters from occurring inside the vehicle cabin/cockpit
-restore first-person warping when one is already in first-person flying a starship in non-VR

supple warren Jul 5, 2021, 4:17 AM

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oh and an analysis overlay, so you can scan stuff while in vehicles. Would be cool if it could also identify wtf is in asteroids before blasting them, so you can ignore the stuff you don't want

toxic slate Jul 5, 2021, 4:22 AM

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make the in-atmosphere ship scanner actually find bases reliably. give us the ability to scan for only landing areas (don't send me to spot that only has a save antenna or some refinery tanks). make the current altitude more visible. allow me to set an autopilot to any planet in the system

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 4:48 AM

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supple warren oh and an analysis overlay, so you can scan stuff while in vehicles. Would be co...

I mean, if you look around the exocrafts, they look like they have a radar screen. Ships have that 3d radar, too.

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and.. several screens. they could use more actual info

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Like oh, the in-atmo scan that solarparty just said, how about when you hit scan, when it pings, you get less surprise because.. .what it pings comes back on the enemy target hologram to your right?

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"hologram of building"

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"hologram of crash site"

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"hologram of alien monolith"

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instead most times it's "what the heck am i flying toward? it found SOMETHING.. let's go see what"

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when it obviously just performed a SCAN and not a radar ping

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I also agree on altitude..

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so many times i have rammed into something on the ground.

supple warren Jul 5, 2021, 4:58 AM

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yeah, dash could use more info, but in-vehicle analysis would also just have a bunch of benefits as well imo.

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 5:18 AM

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Yep

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"small settlement found" and then gives you a little hologram of it

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"okay, when i go that way, i'm looking for this building, cool. "

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especially since the friggen missions like the whole "inexact location marked"

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and you have to hunt around for a building, that literally only that scanner uses

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i tend to just sweep over the area, and go "aha, building. stupid marker."

eternal oracle Jul 5, 2021, 5:49 AM

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Target sweep seems to get praise from players who've been playing for a long time. I mean yeah, it makes the Traveler souls hunt easier or whatever, but in other situations it feels to me like an unnecessary complication. (I also just ping and look around the area from the air.)

supple warren Jul 5, 2021, 5:58 AM

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Speaking of, the partial repair thing is unnecessarily complicated by the whole: "Let's switch camera to zoom on some part of the equipment model, then have them slot stuff into each piece"

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Like, couldn't there be an option to skip that, or better still just fill out part of the repair list as requirements are fulfilled?

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I'm also fairly certain that using the maintenance interaction for partial repairs has led to occasional bugs wherein repairs either don't recognize when requirements are met or they request the wrong materials for repair, so...

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Personally i'd rather have to get out of my ship and mess with it

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Like open a panel on the engine

supple warren Jul 5, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Maybe if the bulk of the repairs weren't for fake damage I'd see that appeal...

sullen grove Jul 5, 2021, 7:02 AM

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honestly ya notice that it's not actually repairs? it's more like.... wiring?

supple warren Jul 5, 2021, 7:03 AM

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these days it is, used to there wasn't fake damage, you were actually repairing installed tech & upgrades...Which admittedly you still do, but they threw in fake damage because ???

teal pagoda Jul 5, 2021, 2:14 PM

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are there even gonna be added non expeditions updates?

hot flame Jul 5, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Prisms came after the first 2 expeditions so I'd guess yes

teal pagoda Jul 5, 2021, 2:28 PM

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i mean huge updates like where they maybe add cities or more alien factions?

hot flame Jul 5, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Maybe! They keep surprising so I don't really rule anything out

golden cobalt Jul 5, 2021, 3:40 PM

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more capital freighter designs, please HG 🙂

visual cloak Jul 5, 2021, 3:52 PM

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would be silly to add more freighters and not improve them and add windows

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imagine a huge, spherical glass freighter

supple warren Jul 5, 2021, 4:33 PM

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freighters with visible basebuilding deck

rotund stratus Jul 5, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Medium ships with walkable interiors

weary acorn Jul 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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What if pets could find and dig up caches and stuff

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Procedural caves with things to find in them and enemies to clear out

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Make the aliens that attack you on freighters land on planets and you can team up with sentinels to take them out

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Then you could get sentinel rep and be able to have them as companions

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Then you could visit sentinel bases and home planets without getting attacked and they could have more items for rewards

jovial flame Jul 5, 2021, 5:05 PM

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What about larger, more features caves

short abyss Jul 5, 2021, 8:42 PM

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I think vr needs a few more options

short abyss Jul 5, 2021, 9:00 PM

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One major one is a setting that lets you set sitting height offset.
If your like me and keep a chair nearby for sitting in vr. Its a godsend to be able to set a sitting offset so you can feel more immersed like your actually sitting in your spaceship

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Without being too low to actually see properly

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Second is an option for multitool vr holster position.
While a shoulder holster works fine. Id love to be able to draw it from my right or left side like a firearm holster.

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Third just an option to always have the inventory or menu screens docked to your hand or appearing infront of you.

Being able to just choose either the current layout or always having it projected, or docked to the left hand would be nice

short abyss Jul 5, 2021, 10:24 PM

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what....?

mental maple Jul 6, 2021, 2:05 AM

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No

supple warren Jul 6, 2021, 2:20 AM

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@gloomy hazel I leave the above link to your discretion, but without elaboration on how this relates to the future of NMS by @mental maple I fail to see how it holds any relevancy in this channel.

violet vortex Jul 6, 2021, 3:19 AM

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mental maple No

don't do that. stick to our channels' topics and server's rules. if you level up in this server, maybe you can share that link in our #archived-old-serious channel and provide some context for its purpose, in a more relevant discussion. otherwise, let's stick to NMS in the respective channels. consider this a friendly verbal warning.

weary acorn Jul 6, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Add corridors that angle down on planet base building

modern magnet Jul 6, 2021, 6:11 PM

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I always forget they don't exist in vanilla

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aside from the freighter one

ivory notch Jul 6, 2021, 6:30 PM

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I like the way you can customize ship inventory but the cosmetics are both a hit and a miss for me. I like the way they’re all unique based on spawn and everything and the fact that you can’t customize your ship means that you really had to wait patiently and grind for that perfect ship or you really just got lucky but either way is cool. It’s like you found this really cool ship and you didn’t just make it yourself. But I still feel like it would be cool if you could trade ships with other players.

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And carrier ships similar to freighters would be awesome so you could carry even more ships. Or even utilizing some of the space on the capital freighters as hangars to make them even more valuable and unique. Then they’re not just big and cool looking but they also serve that special purpose.

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And it would be so cool to have some of those cargo freighters that spawn in with the random fleets that warp in to the systems. And we could recruit frigates and cargo ships and those would just add extra storage and follow your freighter and you wouldn’t have to send them on expeditions.

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I know it’ll probably never happen but what do y’all think

supple warren Jul 6, 2021, 6:39 PM

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cargo ships that function as external storage containers that you can swing by in your ship to retrieve stuff without having to board your freighter

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bubble blower as novelty replacement for multitool to go around blowing bubbles

weary acorn Jul 6, 2021, 8:51 PM

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modern magnet I always forget they don't exist in vanilla

What do you mean vanilla is there mods for them ? Want to make like an ant farm looking base

potent elbow Jul 6, 2021, 10:27 PM

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@weary acorn there are mods available on PC check out #nms-modding

mortal sinew Jul 7, 2021, 4:13 AM

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just make AI ships like friendly fighters and freighter lazers do more than like 1 damage

weary acorn Jul 7, 2021, 11:30 AM

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Well I wish pets had unique stats

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Ones that can be improved over time like skills

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Like stamina and riding control, flying ones could get better at flying and faster

wheat acorn Jul 7, 2021, 12:14 PM

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Let's try to keep this channel focused on improvements/analysis of the future of No Man's Sky. Merging other conversations in here tends to derail the channel.

tame ginkgo Jul 7, 2021, 2:57 PM

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A moving base exocraft

gloomy hazel Jul 7, 2021, 5:43 PM

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make the Colossus an rv

tame ginkgo Jul 7, 2021, 6:34 PM

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gloomy hazel make the Colossus an rv

Yes

steady escarp Jul 7, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Will they ever add lakes or other bodies of water? 😮

torn fractal Jul 7, 2021, 6:38 PM

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there's rumours they are working on some water tech but how true that is i have no idea

steady escarp Jul 7, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Knowing Sean Murray, that might be coming.

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I would love to see lakes and stuff. Caves can come in like 1 year later. I think bodies of water would make this game way more immersive.

visual cloak Jul 7, 2021, 6:39 PM

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the way terrain generates, there are lakes

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but i know what you mean, water needs a lot of improvements

torn fractal Jul 7, 2021, 6:39 PM

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i'm sure they're working on something

steady escarp Jul 7, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Bodies of water such as deltas is what I meant.

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I think the underwater is pretty cool looking though.

visual cloak Jul 7, 2021, 6:40 PM

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it can be pretty

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but its very predictable

torn fractal Jul 7, 2021, 6:41 PM

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ye could be better but it has improved

visual cloak Jul 7, 2021, 6:41 PM

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mhm

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i feel like underwater fauna are lacking in generative parts compared to above water

steady escarp Jul 7, 2021, 6:41 PM

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It's fine. The game is still like a baby.

visual cloak Jul 7, 2021, 6:42 PM

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toddler

steady escarp Jul 7, 2021, 6:42 PM

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In the future, it can be like a sci-fi Minecraft.

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Cuz the sandbox experience is quite good.

torn fractal Jul 7, 2021, 6:45 PM

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would be nice to see much larger water type fauna

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and for the surface, reflections!

tame ginkgo Jul 7, 2021, 6:47 PM

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torn fractal would be nice to see much larger water type fauna

10000u deep oceans would be nice

torn fractal Jul 7, 2021, 6:48 PM

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yes it would

steady escarp Jul 7, 2021, 6:49 PM

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tame ginkgo 10000u deep oceans would be nice

Is there ocean worlds? 😮

torn fractal Jul 7, 2021, 6:49 PM

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ye

tame ginkgo Jul 7, 2021, 6:49 PM

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steady escarp Is there ocean worlds? 😮

Well there are but only 100u deep

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Which is like a pond

steady escarp Jul 7, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Sadge.

torn fractal Jul 7, 2021, 6:50 PM

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and some are fairly deep but nothing truly ocean like

steady escarp Jul 7, 2021, 6:50 PM

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My baby sister can swim in that.

tame ginkgo Jul 7, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Honesty hg needs to remove the bedrock limit and add planet layers and cores

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Terra forming would be nice

steady escarp Jul 7, 2021, 6:51 PM

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That might take a while. lmao

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Kinda complex.

tame ginkgo Jul 7, 2021, 6:51 PM

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And terrain that is seeable from space

toxic slate Jul 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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that would have so many performance impacts with their engine, not sure they want to change fundamental tech at this stage

steady escarp Jul 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Yeah.

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That seems a bit too much at the moment, considering that the game is a toddler.

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But that'll probably come in the future.

short abyss Jul 7, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Ship Cosmetic menu and slots
Another menu making the ship menu overall a similar setup to the inv screen.

Ship cosmetics include bobbleheads
Decals which replace any decal a ship may have. Generally has as many slots as a ship has decals, meaning some ships like many guppies have none

Paints are special in that you cannot retrieve or dismantle them once installed, you may only overwrite them with another coat or have them removed entirely via a space station's ship terminal for a fee of units.

Primary Paint - the main color of the ship
Secondary paint - second color of ship
Tiertiary paint - for ships that have more than two colors
Accent/trim - special slot for ships that ontop of the main colors have a trim like some guppies
Trim can have either paint or metal trims which are exclusive to the trim slot

Generally the ship vendor has a few paints and trims for sale in advance but can make trims or paints for a direct fee and materials.

Making paint is similar to modifying an egg, you can give up to three materials of varying type (rgb) and an item which affects the style of paint (shiny, glittering, matte, glowing, solid, true)

Uranium produces glowing paint
Ferrite and parafinium produces glittering paint
Silver, Gold, pyrite and chromatic metals produce shiny paint
Using silicate powder produces matte paint
Using no special material at all produces solid paint
Using no special material and only using the max amount of a single color (or all 3 incase of black) produces true color paint.

metalic trims are made via putting in a single metal into the special item slot, otherwise it produces paint. (Aka you cant make solid gold paint and bootleg a gold vector)

finite jetty Jul 8, 2021, 4:07 AM

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Imagine customizable ships

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No more ship hunting once you have a specific type!!

karmic pine Jul 8, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Feel like that defeats the purpose of hunting for the perfect ship, though.

wheat acorn Jul 8, 2021, 12:56 PM

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You can do either!

visual cloak Jul 8, 2021, 1:38 PM

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tardigrades when?

wheat acorn Jul 8, 2021, 1:42 PM

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Dapper slug first.

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Actually smaller critters prolly wouldn't affect things too badly and I kinda like that they added the smaller swarming birds and such

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 1:55 PM

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karmic pine Feel like that defeats the purpose of hunting for the perfect ship, though.

Thats why my idea only extends to colors and small details, you still gotta hunt for the ship with the parts you want

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Dang gifs dont work here

wheat acorn Jul 8, 2021, 1:57 PM

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As intended

karmic pine Jul 8, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Mmm. I dunno, probably different priorities cause I feel that's pretty easy for me but who knows, if it'd be better for more people then maybe they will implement it! I'm not trying to say your idea is bad

visual cloak Jul 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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wheat acorn Dapper slug first.

there are many slug possibilities

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honestly, adding a multitude of new, very small fauna, maybe even microscopic, would introduce a possibly fun, new way to explore

visual cloak Jul 8, 2021, 2:38 PM

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would require a new visor upgrade

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maybe could add a station to the base where you observe them and experiment with them

wheat acorn Jul 8, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Collecting and studying specific lifeforms would be a nifty way to work on my crazy venom/poison ideas; but that's a long long story.

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 4:02 PM

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Bacteria would be cool

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Same with megafauna planets where creatures are preset to collosal sizes

ruby skiff Jul 8, 2021, 4:17 PM

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I would like Hello Games to add loads more ship parts as they have so much concept art with lots of interesting ship parts that didn’t make it into the game

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 4:36 PM

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The size matters update.

Over-oxygenated planets, these planets fauna and flora are all massive in size with giant worms being impressively common

Take a deep breath and take in that these planets passively fuel your life support

The atlas grows ever complex

Bacteria can be discovered on worlds, polo has developed a module for your visor to see microscopic bacteria, and with the help of multitool specalists aboard the anomally, microbes can now be collected

Microbes can induce mutations into farmed plants possibly increasing harvests, or producing rare unique samples

Microbes can also be harvested from ancient bones and reintroduced to hatching eggs to awaken long since lost traits or making even larger creatures possible.

Creature double feature

The depths of the atlas is cold dark and most detrimentally, lonely
There is a massive market for companionship within the galaxy second only to hauling and selling exotic creatures.

To fill this noticable need nada has developed special stasis chambers to allow mass storage of animals

These chambers can be installed on freighters and installed with an uplink to allow access to you animals from your ship

Exotic collectors will pay top price for animals with extreme or rare traits
Poachers will attempt to abduct fauna from planets, stopping these poachers will increase reputation with the galaxy.

visual cloak Jul 8, 2021, 4:39 PM

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short abyss Same with megafauna planets where creatures are preset to collosal sizes

i agree with this, but also hope it's done so as not to make these types of planets repetitive and predictable. Massive Fauna (similar to sandworms in size) would be great. But not just upscaled creatures with stretched textures

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Im thinking of fauna rn where you can make them absolutely giant

visual cloak Jul 8, 2021, 4:41 PM

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i just remembered regarding that, yeah

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unfortunate we have to breed them and make them a pet for that to be possible

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There's currently sizes/behaviors that are exclusive to pets and that doesn't feel right.

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Megafauna planets all the animals are close to this size

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Mind you thats MAX size

supple warren Jul 8, 2021, 5:12 PM

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actual megafauna & flora not just rescales could be interesting yeah

visual cloak Jul 8, 2021, 5:14 PM

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I'd love to see a colossal, lumbering biped creature walking extremely slowly across a landscape, indifferent to what's going on around it

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would crush anything it walks on, could kill you in 1 hit if it steps on you

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remember this? https://time.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/nomanssky4.gif

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that's sped up for some reason

gloomy hazel Jul 8, 2021, 5:40 PM

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i want a subnautica planet

visual cloak Jul 8, 2021, 5:40 PM

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hehe

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A bit more inspiration from subnautica is something I've hoped for

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Abyss did not quench my desire for better underwater gameplay

gloomy hazel Jul 8, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Is there ever gonna be a dedicated freighter exosuit garage where you can customize them and take them to any system without having to build them on a planet?

tulip swift Jul 8, 2021, 5:52 PM

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@gloomy hazel this allows you to summon them on any planet with your freighter https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Orbital_Exocraft_Materialiser

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Id love for there to be a ship version tbh

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Hauling your freighter around can be a hassle if you forgot to fuel it

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More often than not with that i just decide flying out of orbit to summon the freighter Just to head back down and summon my exocraft is too much hassle and i just foot it or ride low in my ship

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I get why they did it, so it wasnt too overpowered. But between having to inconviently go out of your way to summon a freighter to use it or just not use it. Imagine most players dont use it.

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Especially when you have an ok alternate option you can summon anywhere, i.e your ship

supple warren Jul 8, 2021, 7:08 PM

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tulip swift <@456226577798135808> this allows you to summon them on any planet with your fre...

not the same thing tho

supple warren Jul 8, 2021, 7:09 PM

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short abyss More often than not with that i just decide flying out of orbit to summon the fr...

...if memory serves you can summon freighters while planetside tho?

toxic slate Jul 8, 2021, 7:16 PM

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it actually bothers me that they allow freighters to be summoned. they set up all these rules around ship travel that require fuel to warp, and very small distances at that, but if you just press the Summon button your freighter can magically warp halfway across the galaxy. with no fuel

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i like consistency in the game rules

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it's the same rationale that had them install teleporters on every station, and magical backpacks that can store more than a ship. they did it for convenience, but it more or less ruined the fun of being a space trucker

supple warren Jul 8, 2021, 7:25 PM

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-stares in Anomaly summoning-

iron rover Jul 8, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Well, that's the thing about the anomaly... It's anomalous. It occupies all spaces at all times, which is how it functions as a player hub. Solar's point about freighters, I agree with. I think they should have warp ranges greater than starships by an order of magnitude, which would really incentivise them for use as mobile bases. It would be more cost-effecient to use starships to explore; and for freighters to travel.

Summoning freighters really confused me when I learned I could do it.

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 8:51 PM

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the anomaly is a T.A.R.D.I.S.

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change my mind

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 9:39 PM

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it's chameleon circuit is just set to "death star"

hot flame Jul 8, 2021, 9:48 PM

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sullen grove it's chameleon circuit is just set to "death star"

Not the right channel for this

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Discuss the future of No Man Sky: what do you want to see next? What do you want fixed or changed? Excessive memery is not allowed; we want to see real ideas. - channel description

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:07 PM

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id like for the anomaly to become a tardis

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dude...

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imagine that actually

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a doctor who crossover

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the guys at hello games are all brits right?

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that be straight up their alley and well within possibility

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an S class explorer freighter thats just the tardis

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a deep space anomally thats the christmas star

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the madame de pompadour as an event ship

hot flame Jul 8, 2021, 10:10 PM

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They have done crossover now, so I suppose that could happen - seems super unlikely

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:10 PM

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gee, seems my "excessive" memery turned into suggestions

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:11 PM

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dude imagine they had the tardis as a main freighter tho

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the whole "bigger on the inside" shtick would be hilarious

hot flame Jul 8, 2021, 10:11 PM

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sullen grove gee, seems my "excessive" memery turned into suggestions

Didn't say it was memery - pointed out the channel description

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'Change my mind' isn't exactly furthering discussion imo

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Honestly it was just discussion, the anomaly is either a teleporter of some kind, or literally another self-contained dimension, like the tardis

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:12 PM

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dude tho a tardis freighter would be badass

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just gotta figure out how the hell you fit in a space ship into the poor thing

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:13 PM

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I'm actually gonna see if someone can make a mod to replace my freighter with the serenity... then build the serenity's inner layout with the build tool

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:13 PM

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sullen grove Honestly it was just discussion, the anomaly is either a teleporter of some kind...

the anomally does teleport them, when you enter it the teleporter starts up

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if its somewhere physical or its a seperate dimension is up to debate

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probably something like the twin cities from reboot

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:14 PM

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now yer speakin' my language

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:14 PM

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alternate dimension connected to the main one

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Since NMS is very much matrix/reboot themed

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:14 PM

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dude fat chance in hell but reboot crossover would be badass

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:14 PM

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they even hit on that in the story

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old reboot, not "new" reboot

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:14 PM

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imagine a multitool that is glitch

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:15 PM

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yaaas

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mining?

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"glitch, drill."

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:15 PM

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cosmetics like a hexadecimal or megabyte mask

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nah nah

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Gigabyte face for traveler race

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we got a special ship

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a special frigate

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a special multitool like that would be awesome

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while yes id freakin love a multitool sonic screwdriver, it just doesnt fit

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:17 PM

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special frigate

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:18 PM

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yeah sorry meant the tardis as an exploration frigate

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frankly a multitool i think would be the next best thing

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aside from having an actual tardis freighter insides and all

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:19 PM

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i mean, ||the entirety of NMS is inside a computer, so it could be easy enough to connect to mainframe from reboot and have characters, tech, etc crossover||

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:20 PM

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this sounds absurd but it be a great expedition

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the expedition you cant go to the space anomaly, it instead kicks you to mainframe.

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:20 PM

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i'd love it.

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:20 PM

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bypassing the easy way of just getting all your twitch and expedition rewards and fast tracking the save

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:20 PM

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could be megabytes fault

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:21 PM

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having the space anomally be something else would be very clever

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the one thing that hurts expeditions right now is the fact that you can just speedrun it because everything you earn carries over

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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i mean, there was megabyte, hex, gigabyte, the supercomputer, that megavirus girl, uh... what else that could POSSIBLY infect ATLAS

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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having it so the space anomally is replaced with something themed would help if it restricted these things

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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sullen grove i mean, there was megabyte, hex, gigabyte, the supercomputer, that megavirus gir...

daemon you mean?

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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yes her

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AND

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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frankly hex would be it

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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AND AND AND

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they made a PORTAL

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to deal with deamon

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which resembled a stargate

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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i can see hex utterly pissing every single sentinel off in a 60 billion galaxy radius

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more realistically there doesnt need to be a real threat perse

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nms has never really shined in combatting some force

sullen grove Jul 8, 2021, 10:24 PM

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but yeah, they literally built a stargate style portal to try to trick daemon

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Hey look, a portal from no man's sky

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||which is inside another computer system||

short abyss Jul 8, 2021, 10:53 PM

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frankly nulls would be cool

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they would look like literal walking piles of shit but regardless they would be cool to have as companions or something

supple warren Jul 9, 2021, 2:03 AM

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iron rover Well, that's the thing about the anomaly... It's anomalous. It occupies all spac...

The Anomaly was more anomalous when it seemed to operate more like space battles or encounters though. There's not much anomalous about ringing up Polo to pull the Anomaly around for you to visit

but :person_shrugging:

flint stirrup Jul 9, 2021, 3:40 AM

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The reason Cronus has to be fed one at a time is because the Devs don't wanna make it too easy to get nanites. I think the solution is diminishing returns.
Normal rewards from one at a time. Selling food in bulk gives you less per food item the more you do in bulk i.e. 10 is half as much, 100 is 20% of normal, 1000 is 2% as much.
Essentially nanites reward = X * sqrt(amount sold) where X is the base nanite reward from selling just 1

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That would still enable good nanite returns for massive well established food farms but not nerf the smalltimer chefs new to the game

supple warren Jul 9, 2021, 5:05 AM

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If that's the case, then shouldn't they also reduce the nanite profits that can be made via scrapping ships & selling the modules or whathaveyou that you receive?

I realize the argument could be made that there's already an upfront unit cost for the more profitable ships to scrap, but given that there are unit printers (i.e. Activated Indium mines) that one can either build or simply visit, that undercuts that hurdle. Besides, purchase isn't the only way to get ships, since one can also scavenge & scrap them.

May not be as nanite profitable due to inefficiencies of repair & luck issues, but nevertheless, the option remains.

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Considering this, while I think the idea of diminishing returns for multiple food items to Cronus isn't a bad one, I'm also disinclined to think that a sort of balance is the primary reason for disallowing it

flint stirrup Jul 9, 2021, 5:38 AM

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I think if you enable bulk food sales for nanites, even with diminishing returns it'd be on par with the other most popular methods so the other methods wouldn't need adjusting

teal pagoda Jul 9, 2021, 8:38 AM

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i wish there could be introduced more alien factions and 2 armed 2 legged aliens on planets

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like the animals

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but just aliens like us

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maybe a combat update:

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-satisfying reloading animation for the tool

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-aiming

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-ground battles between npcs and you can join them, or get attacked by pirates on ground

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-maybe like a war event where some new faction starts invading one of the galaxies

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-you can shoot npcs on a trading station. if you shoot someone, the others will either fight you or run away. and then the sentinels will come after you

urban steeple Jul 9, 2021, 11:23 AM

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I only have two wishes for the future of No Man's Sky. 1.) Please get rid of or soften that immersion breaking "leaving-the-atmosphere-Jolt". 2.) More rare stuff to hunt (I mean like squid-ship rare). Other than that I put full trust in HG to do the right thing.

astral leaf Jul 9, 2021, 2:38 PM

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I would love if the ships would be able to hover over the planet. Ive seen mods doing it. Is there a reason it isnt in Vanilla?

supple warren Jul 9, 2021, 4:41 PM

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urban steeple I only have two wishes for the future of No Man's Sky. 1.) Please get rid of or ...

i'd slightly modify the last part to: with more compelling ways to find/get said rare stuff.

The current approach to rare stuff is just incredibly low RNG odds with no way to track them down or investigate to increase the odds of appearance. This reduces rare stuff to being handled in the least interesting gamey way possible like reloading till it appears or just camping out nearby till it shows up.

lone vessel Jul 9, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Add a nanite based treat for robotic companion to achieve the same temporary boost effect (faster movement or special attack) like eating consumables (stew and cakes)

keen glen Jul 9, 2021, 7:34 PM

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supple warren i'd slightly modify the last part to: with more compelling ways to find/get said...

Agreed. This game is wonderful, but it doesn't respect the players' time. The investment required in upgrades is such that the S class grind feels mandatory.

snow meadow Jul 9, 2021, 10:24 PM

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@keen glen perhaps that could be worked into a solution for another thing i feel needs improvement: rewards for frigate missions

frank dagger Jul 10, 2021, 12:24 AM

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will crouching be added

gloomy hazel Jul 10, 2021, 12:25 AM

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^this

short abyss Jul 10, 2021, 2:22 AM

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keen glen Agreed. This game is wonderful, but it doesn't respect the players' time. The in...

i disagree tbh, you can work your way through at your own pace, of course being efficent means you have to grind but efficency never had to mean you dont spent alot of time grinding

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i worked my way up to s-class passively

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this game as a whole feels better when you work passively

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you can grind but thats the thing. YOU can grind, its not neccesary to do so

supple warren Jul 10, 2021, 4:53 AM

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the grind is by design necessary because regardless of the intensity with which you pursue your goal, the action required is repetitive and extensive. This goes for pretty much anything s-class that you can try to work towards.

There is next to no varying or interesting path to getting any of that, as it's either focusing on it or lucking into it, but given how unlikely the latter is, you're likely going to passively or actively seek it out.

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Grind, at least to my mind, isn't strictly about the intensity or focus of the action, but the absence of compelling options to attain stuff.

Might just be me though.

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It's why to me the tech trees, while nice QOL, don't make up for the alternatives being left either bad RNG or the same basic multiple choice puzzles since release

keen glen Jul 10, 2021, 8:21 AM

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short abyss you can grind but thats the thing. YOU can grind, its not neccesary to do so

The issue in my mind is that both appearance and class are random. If you see something you like and want in the late game then grinding for the S Class version feels necessary. For example, I saw a wonderful freighter and tried for an S Class version and gave up after many attempts and feel quite flat now that I've upgraded the size of my A Class to its limit.

It's a similar story with Living Ships — due to how many of them spawn without armour and with duff stats, getting a nice one is really painful.

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Perhaps they could take some mechanics from Diablo, e.g. an NPC that allows you to reroll a ship's stats for a cost.

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I'd love the ability to upgrade Freighter class at the cost of nanites. I'm so invested in mine (even with the new ability to carry bases over) that I actually dread stumbling across an S Class now.

supple warren Jul 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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alternatively have missions that can reward solid equipment for a change.

Like frankly Starbirth shouldn't even have a chance of giving you a living ship with garbo stats considering all the junk it makes you go through

tame dragon Jul 10, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Ohai, is there any hint of what Hello is working on for the next update?

lone vessel Jul 10, 2021, 5:41 PM

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just let us sit in the chair before spinning them, its more fun when you can sit in the chair while spinning them

copper dawn Jul 10, 2021, 5:43 PM

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tame dragon Ohai, is there any hint of what Hello is working on for the next update?

Aside of leaks, like the Downfall one, I wonder same thing. Maybe there is some hint in this weekend mission? 🤔

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And the leaks can be or not be true.

gleaming quest Jul 10, 2021, 6:39 PM

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weekend missions are procedural now

copper dawn Jul 10, 2021, 6:49 PM

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So same generic 💩 like I remember when it started? (Find and open portal, do some item collection objective to close an anomaly, return back) 🤔

tame dragon Jul 10, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Feels like a game needs more different content. Not just another tree of new unlockables that have the same function of the current ones, like more decorations or tradable items and such, but things that are different

copper dawn Jul 10, 2021, 9:14 PM

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Also different in gameplay. Like all ground animals behave the same way or attack. Similar with plants. As some even has description like they feed from traveler's essence or whatever it was, but in gameplay they are no danger for you.

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Also same with corrupted planets. Why they won't try corrupt or damage somehow the protagonist? Or I would expect some different danger there from normal planets.

tame dragon Jul 10, 2021, 9:40 PM

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Yep, new gameplay. I'm struggling to imagine what other gameplay could fit the game but it could use something really different.

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Maybe simulation/management game type of gameplay.

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But something really different, not like a new kind of mission or a new kind of artifact to dig out

frank dagger Jul 11, 2021, 1:28 AM

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I would like a ground fps themed update, adding crouch because why is that not in the game already lol. And outposts inhabited by hostile things, that you can raid and loot. Actual good NPC ai that will use tactics like flanking, taking cover, that sort of thing.

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If this is already in the game, my bad. I just haven't discovered it yet then

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Also I feel like the game is pretty balanced. It doesn't feel needy and grindy. But perhaps that's because I'm an ED player, where endless grinds that feel like sandpaper to the brain is all there is.

celest lake Jul 11, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Imagine No Man Sky, but using the new Unreal Engine and all it has to offer...

sturdy lily Jul 11, 2021, 3:12 AM

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you know, it'd be quite cool to see more consequences for getting a horrible reputation with a race

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I personally have a -100 rep with geks and there are no consequences I've noticed so far

copper dawn Jul 11, 2021, 7:53 AM

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The only consequences are that their ships won't help you against the 🏴‍☠️. But yep, that is shame. I still wonder why they removed the faction space battles, like orbital conflict, which were in prerelease versions of the game, as we can see in their one gameplay videos.

scenic furnace Jul 11, 2021, 1:01 PM

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the gameplay trailer was actually showing them fighting pirates if you look closely

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only the gameplay shown in the E3 trailer was scripted

copper dawn Jul 11, 2021, 1:07 PM

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Still it's shame that there isn't some 🏴‍☠️ faction which we would be able to join and then land on its hidden stations.

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Interesting is that we can already find some their machinery in space as random encounter and if we 💥 it up, they will attack us.

polar spoke Jul 11, 2021, 3:55 PM

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celest lake Imagine No Man Sky, but using the new Unreal Engine and all it has to offer...

i imagine consistent 5fps

celest lake Jul 11, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Oh? I don't think i've ever lost fps

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What hardware do you rock @polar spoke

polar spoke Jul 11, 2021, 3:58 PM

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it was a joke but im almost certain moving to unreal engine would cause some big performance issues

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rn i can run 60fps no dips except for leaving atmosphere

celest lake Jul 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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The new engine is actually insane, not only with how much better it performs but also with how much more detail can exist in the render at once

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I don't think it'd change the performance requirements one bit tbh

polar spoke Jul 11, 2021, 4:04 PM

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even if that were to be the case

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it would kinda contradict the entire feel of nms

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imo its meant to not be full hardcore realism

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and the artstyle suits it

rotund stratus Jul 11, 2021, 4:04 PM

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Can the unreal engine even do the tykenkf generation NMS needs? Voxels etc

polar spoke Jul 11, 2021, 4:05 PM

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with enough modification im sure it could

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but star citizen is an example of engine modification going not 100% well

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but that games is still probably decades from being finished so ill forgive the low fps and bad optimisation

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so the game ending up like that wouldnt be ideal

celest lake Jul 11, 2021, 4:50 PM

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@rotund stratus Look up the Unreal engine 5 demo

timid badge Jul 11, 2021, 9:17 PM

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What about living freighters like those similar in the starcraft universe but with NMS design

teal pagoda Jul 11, 2021, 11:23 PM

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tame dragon Ohai, is there any hint of what Hello is working on for the next update?

probably some expeditions thing i don't even care about

tame dragon Jul 12, 2021, 12:10 AM

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teal pagoda probably some expeditions thing i don't even care about

😕

tame dragon Jul 12, 2021, 12:12 AM

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frank dagger I would like a ground fps themed update, adding crouch because why is that not i...

Hmm no I don't see this game turning into a shooter. I mean, if it evolves from what it is now to add gameplay from other genre, I'd say it'd be more mechanics from simulation or management kind of games. Like setting up your business, having a trade route, manage a team of specialists, etc

tame dragon Jul 12, 2021, 12:14 AM

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frank dagger Also I feel like the game is pretty balanced. It doesn't feel needy and grindy. ...

Oh man I always wanted to try ED, I think I only played a few hours once only and that's it. The theme, the mechanics, the whole "space MMO" experience sounds like a very unique experience

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And I only have an Xbox, but on PC having VR, head tracking and the AI assistant that you can give orders just take this game to another whole level

tame dragon Jul 12, 2021, 12:37 AM

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I think the gameplay could get a real upgrade if they added colony management mechanics. I don't see how to make this fit in the game lore, but for a sandbox game with exploration, base building and crafting it'd be a great addition to have your own colony

supple warren Jul 12, 2021, 3:06 AM

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I mean in a way you already do have colonies, they're just largely automated.

Personally I think the game would benefit more from exploration that actually requires environmental awareness, & involves better puzzles that make use of the info you gather from ruins & other lore sources, among other styles like figuring out how to rework a tech system to get something operational again and the like

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Even the occasional find wounded/sick lifeforms and trying to figure out how to help them event could prove interesting, especially if it brought to light aspects of the environment you otherwise might have overlooked

supple warren Jul 12, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Taken from convo in #no-mans-sky:
change the waypoint part in the discovery menu to let you view the shots at a larger resolution, set a marker to them, and also show approximate position on the planet shown in the discovery menu

better still, have the waypoints open to a whole new cartography/geography section of the discovery menu which would show portal coordinates & approximate locations of discovered & marked waypoints, base computers, & beacons on the planet image all allowing you to set or dismiss markers to them, and when a location is selected it displays planetary coordinates as well to further assist navigation.

sturdy lily Jul 12, 2021, 4:31 AM

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NMS should have more realistic planets tbh. they should, 1; actually rotate, 2; have different rotational periods, 3; have different orbittal periods, 4; have atmospheric pressures, 5; have different gravities based upon their size

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because currently they are a mess that contradict themselves 12 different ways simultaneously

wispy ferry Jul 12, 2021, 4:36 AM

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You say that like all of those things would be easy to implement lol

sturdy lily Jul 12, 2021, 4:45 AM

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they wouldn't be but like, neither is literally anything else in the game

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also I'm just throwing out ideas

supple warren Jul 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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tbh increasing degrees of realism takes away from it all to a degree, like it's not a space sim and in many ways benefits as a result.

For instance thankfully there's none of that overly long travel time for realism, albeit that's hardly made sense even in scifi set waaay ahead where one might imagine superior travel tech to minimize travel times.

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instead of trying to undo the contradictions of fiction vs. reality, it'd probably be better to lean back into the fiction end of the scifi

teal pagoda Jul 12, 2021, 7:31 AM

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frank dagger I would like a ground fps themed update, adding crouch because why is that not i...

sounds like a very good idea

teal pagoda Jul 12, 2021, 7:33 AM

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tame dragon Hmm no I don't see this game turning into a shooter. I mean, if it evolves from ...

it won't turn into a shooter just because it will have some combat improvements and new things to do involving combat

rotund stratus Jul 12, 2021, 12:29 PM

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I just feel like a combat update doesn't really appeal to enough people

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Better exploration mechanics are what would really help the fanbase

keen glen Jul 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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Perhaps disease outbreaks among the three main alien cultures and the need for rare ingredients to cure them might work as a nice mission mechanic. Also the culture survivor pod things could use a way to give their population a new home.

Finally, it's a shame that a lot of aliens at stations ask for help but there are no dialogue options for you to do so.

tame dragon Jul 12, 2021, 1:15 PM

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rotund stratus Better exploration mechanics are what would really help the fanbase

Okay, I buy that, but in any case I feel the game needs a large batch of new mechanics. I really appreciate the incremental update, and they do build up with time, but adding two or three new explorations mechanics won't really make it. I'm thinking more on the lines of a large expansion or directly a new entry in the No Man's Sky universe

tame dragon Jul 12, 2021, 1:17 PM

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supple warren I mean in a way you already do have colonies, they're just largely automated. ...

Do we? AFAIK there's base building and farm automation, but when I was thinking of having a colony I was thinking of something like State of Decay 2 or Rimworld where you have a group of npcs interacting with each other that you only control indirectly

frank dagger Jul 12, 2021, 1:24 PM

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Cool idea

copper dawn Jul 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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keen glen Perhaps disease outbreaks among the three main alien cultures and the need for r...

One thing which I find as shame - on station or trading outpost, aliens tell many things to you which you can later understand, but you can't respond to it and instead go the generic learn language /try words/say goodbye BS. It would be nice if more interaction with aliens would unlock as player would know their language better.

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Because if you encounter aliens in some of their buildings on planets, there instead of your generic responses you can actually choose response depending on what alien is saying to you.

keen glen Jul 12, 2021, 2:50 PM

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There is often one exception. In the room near the multitool vendor in stations, in addition to the recruitable aliens, there's often one in the centre behind a desk who has semi-unique dialogue options when you first encounter them.

copper dawn Jul 12, 2021, 2:59 PM

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Also weird is that there is Atlas language in the game, but it's rarely used. I think only sometimes in Atlas path and maybe in main (Artemis) story too. 🤔

supple warren Jul 12, 2021, 5:56 PM

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To the best of my knowledge the Atlas lingo is only ever used with the Atlas and nothing else, so yeah, Atlas & Artemis Paths would be the only times it comes up, alongside any random Atlas Interface encounters

supple warren Jul 12, 2021, 5:59 PM

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tame dragon Do we? AFAIK there's base building and farm automation, but when I was thinking ...

Like I said, in a way those first couple things you describe are like colony barebones. I recognize that you meant more of what you later describe.

Given that frigate expeditions are probably the closest to what you're after, I can't help thinking anything more elaborate planetside might turn out to be a similar passive idle game with minimal actual active management.

toxic slate Jul 12, 2021, 6:59 PM

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supple warren To the best of my knowledge the Atlas lingo is only ever used with the Atlas and...

Maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't the Atlas language used in some of the coded transmissions from the communication towers that can be accessed after finishing Artemis?

short abyss Jul 12, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Using the space station core to "reawaken" abandoned space stations. Allowing you to make your own space station albiet mostly just related to selecting the prefered race and recoloring the outside of the station.

median beacon Jul 12, 2021, 7:59 PM

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I'm going to need a super laser for my fully armed and operational "space station"

frank dagger Jul 12, 2021, 8:13 PM

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More station variants and better interiors

supple warren Jul 12, 2021, 8:15 PM

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toxic slate Maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't the Atlas language used in some of the code...

Maybe...? Not so far as I'm aware, but I never dug into those much past the Artemis Path. I do know they have some messages in korvax/vy'keen/gek afterward, so maybe also atlas 🤷

short abyss Jul 12, 2021, 10:56 PM

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station appearance variation
Like light patterns of not all blue, these are several different races making space stations no way in hell they would all be blue and black on the inside

Geks would have more glamourous stations, mainly very decorated and exsquisite. Their main control core is of course a giant furnace-esq incense burner core that exudes pleasant fumes for geks, shaped like a gek head, the control core has a less major role in the space station since generally gek are more than capable of running the functions themselves. Notably gek nip would be found around tables, and left behind trade commodities

Vy'keen would have more rough and dirty stations with many hunting trophies and specimens lining the walls (aka free nanites), the vykeen instead of a station controller have a for lack of a better term "warchief" vykeen helming the station, Uniquely being the only "living" control core Vykeen daggers and precious artifacts can be found along tables, war trophies of sorts

Korvax would have space stations similar to how they are now, sleek, minimal with mostly emphasis on technology, especially clean. Generally you would find location data lining the tables, their core would be what they are now similar to the warchief the core is essentially an "administrator" role korvax handling the functions

sturdy lily Jul 12, 2021, 10:57 PM

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if blue stars were replaced with neutron stars, and rarely they'd be pulsars (rarer than black holes), that'd be awesome. pulsars could have beams that you could fly into, and it would let you fly to other star systems, but with further distance. They could even have varying spin rates. higher spin rates could send you further, at the cost of being difficult to catch. just a thought

strange goblet Jul 12, 2021, 11:13 PM

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A grappling hook, couldn't see being able to swing around with it but would definitely help with making moving to locations shorter.

lone vessel Jul 13, 2021, 5:48 AM

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Extending from the living ship, lets have a 'living' multi-tool that has some moving parts as a variant of exotic type
We can also have a 'living' exocraft for an underground or submersible vehicle
and a 'living' space station as well (hopefully not too disgusting when docking inside)

supple warren Jul 13, 2021, 6:55 AM

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where the livin' planets at tho

vale hornet Jul 13, 2021, 7:23 AM

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supple warren where the livin' planets at tho

The nest right?

urban steeple Jul 13, 2021, 8:56 AM

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I could imagine myself having to find a colossal archive (perhaps per installable starship science scanner that works like economy scanner/trading post) I would then go to a terminal and look there to see which fauna/flora/minerals are undiscovered. You could then upload that list to your suit. I find it strange that upon landing on any planet your suit/discoveries tab "knows" everything about the system.

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The archive list could even have greyed out pictures and the reward so you can see planet Epsilon Gamma has an expensive rare diplo species and is worth hunting down. Delta Phi only has cheap flying fauna so who cares, not going there. Wait, that rare mineral gives me 84 QS? Maybe I should. Finding those assets and then returning to the archive to upload to the network and collect rewards defined by rarity. (common = lots of units, uncommon = some nanites, rare = a little quicksilver?) More rewards for exploration! Maybe pick up missions there to find X common, Y uncommon, Z rare specific flora/fauna. Instead of just 13 random rocks.

copper dawn Jul 13, 2021, 9:06 AM

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The problem with this idea is that the colossal archive is hard to find now.

urban steeple Jul 13, 2021, 9:08 AM

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that what the science scanner would be for.

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Commercial charts from the cartographer find them too.

urban steeple Jul 13, 2021, 9:31 AM

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Scrap dealers/landed black market pilots could sell random or exotic creature eggs.

vale hornet Jul 13, 2021, 11:49 AM

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I'm still sticking with the customizable ships however you can ship hunt for certain rare parts or just generated parts that procedurally generate on ships and scrap them and put them together to make your own ship

copper dawn Jul 13, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Now I have noticed that one thing which I have been missing in the game for long time is that when it isn't time of activity for some creatures, they just magically dissappear from the planet, instead of having some lair where they would go for their sleep. And we would be able to find them there.

short abyss Jul 13, 2021, 4:12 PM

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lone vessel Extending from the living ship, lets have a 'living' multi-tool that has some mo...

Well tbf we already have "living" multitools with the biological ones.

Also entering the "docking port" of a living space station are all kinds of jokes waiting to happen

supple warren Jul 13, 2021, 5:22 PM

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vale hornet The nest right?

not even close

supple warren Jul 13, 2021, 5:25 PM

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urban steeple I could imagine myself having to find a colossal archive (perhaps per installabl...

Tbh if you find that strange, I'm surprised you don't find the whole reward mechanism strange as well. Even supposing you make the changes you suggest, it's just as weird that in the process of building the archive megastructure no one took the time to survey the site before construction to ensure as minimal environmental disruption as possible

frank dagger Jul 13, 2021, 8:38 PM

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copper dawn Now I have noticed that one thing which I have been missing in the game for long...

Good idea

supple warren Jul 13, 2021, 8:44 PM

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interesting thing to note, in past versions of the game fauna did have a brief resting animation

It may still be present & I just haven't seen it lately, but regardless, at least part of that feature may still be floating around in the game somewhere

frank dagger Jul 13, 2021, 8:46 PM

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Animals definitely need an update.

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Behavior specifically

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Not just walking around and occasionally screaming. Make predators hunt prey for instance

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I want to see stuff going on you know

supple warren Jul 13, 2021, 8:49 PM

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Some predators do already go after prey fwiw

frank dagger Jul 13, 2021, 8:49 PM

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tangerine_think

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Have yet to see that if so

supple warren Jul 13, 2021, 8:50 PM

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Yeah it's a bit uncommon, feels a lot less common compared to prior versions

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But I think some of that is that in previous versions the predators would also more frequently go after you so you knew they were around

frank dagger Jul 13, 2021, 8:53 PM

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The big ones with two legs looking like dinosaurs could reach up to eat leaves from trees

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Or two of the same kind brawling with each other, with their horns you know. Like goats

copper dawn Jul 13, 2021, 8:55 PM

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More methods of animals to attack /hunt, etc...

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Make predators actually dangerous instead of just randomly ramming me. Etc.

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They are now too easy.

copper dawn Jul 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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frank dagger Not just walking around and occasionally screaming. Make predators hunt prey for...

Sometimes if I feed animals, predator comes and kills and eats one of the eating animals.

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But true is that was some updates ago.

frank dagger Jul 13, 2021, 8:58 PM

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"Birds" could skydive into water to pick up small fish

copper dawn Jul 13, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Or to collect stuff from ground. There could be maybe even some bigger ones attacking player.

frank dagger Jul 13, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Idk

copper dawn Jul 13, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Same for fishes. As aside of the hand made underwater creatures like the jellyfishes or other hostiles, the procedurally generated fishes do nothing. They can't even be tamed. Nor ridden.

frank dagger Jul 13, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Oh one more thing for birds, give them the ability to land on trees so they can sit on sticks and clean themselves or whatever.

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Would be cool

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Or sleep

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sip

copper dawn Jul 13, 2021, 9:00 PM

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One thing which I generally miss is sense of danger, that you are at bottom of food chain in some cases. Like Subnautica or Outer Wilds do it with some creatures.

frank dagger Jul 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

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It's the subtle things man

copper dawn Jul 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

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But I think that generally indeed an animal AI overhauls would be good. With the behavior like above.

frank dagger Jul 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

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I just want the worlds to feel truely alive

copper dawn Jul 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

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Instead of just randomly walking around or behaving dumb.

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Predators who make me laugh.

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While in Subnautica or Outer Wilds I have an actual fear of being attacked by one.

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Also I already mentioned it above, but the poor creatures are homeless. They even have nowhere to hide and sleep so they instead magically disappear if it isn't their time.

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(No lairs.)

toxic slate Jul 13, 2021, 9:19 PM

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supple warren But I think some of that is that in previous versions the predators would also m...

I think they changed it so that predators have more specific creatures they like to hunt, rather than predator = psychopath killing everything it sees. but it's not consistent and does seem like there's less creatures after you than before

crimson abyss Jul 14, 2021, 10:17 AM

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what if we could have spaceships we could pilot that had interiors other than the cokpit that we could walk around in?

Edit: as in not frieghters or frigates but ships we can fly ourselves with interiors

copper dawn Jul 14, 2021, 11:54 AM

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It would be nice, but I can't see it happening in our small ships. Maybe bigger ships could be made for it?

Also there woukd be nice a ship which could be ridden by 2 or more players. Or maybe even NPCs for some taxi type missions.

supple warren Jul 14, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Not that I'm against the ships with interior idea, but I think each suggestion of this fails to address why this should be introduced. Up to now I think I've only seen one that addressed this sorta via describing as a "space RV" with the interior being somewhat buildable.

I think something more like that would help push the idea forward outside of just static interiors to look around once or twice only to ignore thereafter for quick jump into the cockpit

late skiff Jul 14, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Larger npc “settlements” would be awesome

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Make it feel like a town

sturdy lily Jul 14, 2021, 9:05 PM

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potentially a larger type of ship with an interior you could walk around? not at the scale of a freighter ofc. could have benefits over normal ships, such as higher stats, larger hyperdrive range, more carrying capacity, better upgrades in general, etc. But it would also require more maintenance such as occasional repairs, more resources needed, and potentially even needing to charge various aspects that usually don't need an input. It could even let you have somewhat of a crew of npcs. Could also potentially allow for more mission types? such as trade route missions, or escorts. Could also allow other players to enter your ship. Would also have a small dock of sorts for normal ships (for obvious convenience reasons)
just a stupid idea, probably wouldn't work out in reality, but I think it sounds neat personally

toxic slate Jul 14, 2021, 9:44 PM

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sturdy lily potentially a larger type of ship with an interior you could walk around? not at...

honestly I think many of those ideas should just be applied to freighters and/or frigates

sturdy lily Jul 14, 2021, 9:48 PM

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being able to use freighters as actual ships would be awesome. could have mountable guns for asteroid mining maybe?

toxic slate Jul 14, 2021, 9:57 PM

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yeah if fleet battles ever happen i'm hoping that NPCs can be hired to augment stats. some are better gunners than others, etc. or if you want you can take a turret yourself

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get the whole Millenium Falcon turret experience

strange goblet Jul 14, 2021, 10:46 PM

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Could see "jump gates" being added, portals the size of freighters that could be used to travel to specific solar systems, maybe some could be made yourself and others could be abandoned and need special batteries to power them.

blissful crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Picture a weapons update that adds dedicated guns and more hostile types of enemies

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And like raiding freighters n shit, like you could be some sort of space pirate

toxic slate Jul 15, 2021, 1:00 AM

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i just want to fly into the middle of a fleet battle, turrets firing and fighter ships swarming about, with Battlestar Galactica music playing. is that too much to ask

blissful crest Jul 15, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Maybe

supple warren Jul 15, 2021, 2:40 AM

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yeah i think there might be some licensing issues on the battlestar galactica music /s

toxic slate Jul 15, 2021, 2:46 AM

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hey, I mean if they can shove Mass Effect ships into the game, they can do anything

strange goblet Jul 15, 2021, 2:46 AM

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blissful crest Picture a weapons update that adds dedicated guns and more hostile types of enem...

Most I want to see for a combat update is iornsights, it feels like you're using tools to attack instead of weapoms

supple warren Jul 15, 2021, 2:48 AM

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to be fair it is a multitool

supple warren Jul 15, 2021, 4:43 AM

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space races, and generated exocraft race tracks

eternal oracle Jul 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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VR terminal in a Colossal Archive, where we can relive the final days of a Gek fleet when their expedition goes horribly wrong. Requires one black box, recovered from a crashed or derelict freighter.

sullen grove Jul 15, 2021, 5:40 AM

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Mulitool?

toxic slate Jul 15, 2021, 5:44 AM

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supple warren space races, and generated exocraft race tracks

please no more race tracks, the scourge of NMS

supple warren Jul 15, 2021, 6:12 AM

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toxic slate please no more race tracks, the scourge of NMS

?? i want to read this as a joke, given that i know of next to no one ever using them, but if not...what?

polar spoke Jul 15, 2021, 6:29 AM

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sturdy lily potentially a larger type of ship with an interior you could walk around? not at...

Not stupid, I completely + this. Interiors you can walk around and interact with in space games adds a lot to immersion and combined with the option to get out of your ship and spacewalk and such as you can in a game like star citizen is amazing.

toxic slate Jul 15, 2021, 6:38 AM

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supple warren ?? i want to read this as a joke, given that i know of next to no one ever using...

haha yeah it was a joke

copper dawn Jul 15, 2021, 7:36 AM

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blissful crest Picture a weapons update that adds dedicated guns and more hostile types of enem...

Talking about Freighter combat, why we can't destroy them already?

sullen grove Jul 15, 2021, 10:16 AM

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personally i just want a higher class of ship

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why are all ships other than our single ships freighters?

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like literally no other kind of ship exists

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single person starship, freighter.

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frigate which we can't really use

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what about actual.. ya know, ships with crews? i mean, the planetary archives LOOK like some kind of ship. where's the actual ships with crews of these 3 "warring" races?

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conflict my ass

dapper palm Jul 15, 2021, 4:22 PM

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what about fixing the goddamn economy?

violet vortex Jul 15, 2021, 4:34 PM

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misty irisBOT Jul 15, 2021, 4:34 PM

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You can submit bug reports or suggestions/feedback directly to Hello Games with this link: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

keen glen Jul 15, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Are you referring to the way that money becomes meaningless pretty quickly?

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I have to say that restarting from scratch has made the game a lot more enjoyable for me as I'm having to save up/work towards things again.

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It would be cool if there was an additional resource that could be used to make things less RNG and was awarded by normal (but more challenging) missions along with frigate missions.

stark magnet Jul 15, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Be cool to pawn off units on people to start fresh

supple warren Jul 15, 2021, 6:00 PM

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or just discard units and such at will

mystic sphinx Jul 15, 2021, 6:22 PM

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strange goblet Could see "jump gates" being added, portals the size of freighters that could be...

Jump gates do exist they are kinda rare and they basically do the same thing as black holes but they don't damage your ship

sullen grove Jul 15, 2021, 7:49 PM

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you mean portals?

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they're not that rare.

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at least one in every star system

hot flame Jul 15, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Relic gates, space encounter

merry pumice Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Lore, content, customization ideas I have

One thing Id like to see is stories behind abandoned space stations and maybe the ability to restore it.

Another species. I know we have 3 races that embody the 3 core components of the game, trading, combat, and technology. Though we do have the special "traveller" race but I don't think they do much other than hand out glyphs if you decide not to go through the main quest to get them. So either give them more of a purpose or introduce a new race.

Building your own starship and/or multitool. When you could do this? I'd say it should be one of the last if not an expensive unlock in freighter upgrades

I could be dumb and not pay attention to the characters, but a female body for your character and for the gek and vykeen races.

I'm sure this is probably because a part of lore, but planets with city like locations. Should be on planets with little to no sentinel presence and systems with a good economy. Could possibly replace trade outposts and planet archives. Maybe give lore behind what it took to build it.

Make the Holo terminal space encounter give a distressed pilot quest or a quest to help a freighter crew that's in combat.

Gems and crystals, would be nice for decorations.

tame ginkgo Jul 15, 2021, 8:41 PM

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Nms with stellaris features

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Mainly genocide

frank dagger Jul 15, 2021, 10:24 PM

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no female body

frank dagger Jul 16, 2021, 1:43 AM

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Hope they get rid of the black vehicle windows to be honest. Really puts me off.

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I want to see inside, not have it be a literal brick model. Maybe a mod will one day do this

toxic slate Jul 16, 2021, 1:47 AM

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would love to actually see the rain and weather effects from inside buildings/bases

manic ferry Jul 16, 2021, 2:31 AM

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Some sort of procedural short campaign on inhabited planets or planets with high/aggressive sentinels to bump their aggression level down a little bit? I don’t know, anything to give us a reason to stick around on a planet just for a little bit. Even if it’s really short, like 10-15 minutes?

supple warren Jul 16, 2021, 3:03 AM

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frank dagger I want to see inside, not have it be a literal brick model. Maybe a mod will one...

there have been mods to do this before, but given there's nothing to see from outside, you end up looking in at a flat surface or somesuch

timid badge Jul 16, 2021, 2:40 PM

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You know, maybe improved combat mechanics would be reallu good for the health and multiplayer of the game. Yeah this game is about exploration but after all its also a sandbox and giving players more tools to play with would greatly improve this game.

For example base protection devices such as automated turrets can have both multiplayer value and singleplayer value such as protecting bases against sentinels on aggresive sentinel planets thus leaving the area of your base quite free of annoying pesky sentinels as for multiplayer those turrets can be set to attack or not players.

Another cool addition would be custom vehicles which can be created only after unlocking all other vehicles in the game(colossus, minotaur etc.) and a few extra weapons and propulsion systems (small, medium, large cannons, tracks instrad of wheels/legs, etc.), these have mostly a MP use but singleplayers can also find them quite nice to have around their bases

I hope i made myself clear in these ideas and would like to know what others think as well :D

supple warren Jul 16, 2021, 5:04 PM

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tbh i feel like we have a decent set of weapons as-is, with the bigger problem being that existing enemies are too infrequent and underpowered to offer anything worth installing different weaponry or, to a degree, better shielding

In space lately this definitely seems to be the case insofar as being underpowered is concerned. Planetside I'm not so sure about the power issue with Sentinels these days, but I know it's the case with predators, and frequency is certainly an issue with both, thanks to trying to appeal to the subset of people that want minimal threats altogether.

toxic slate Jul 16, 2021, 6:10 PM

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regarding enemies, I'm a broken drum on this but the Sentinels don't really offer narrative beats or that much emergent gameplay. I would rather Sentinels fade back in their importance and make conflicts with NPCs the major source of danger. Fighting waves of robots with simple AI is just not that compelling, and doesn't create memories you can swap stories about later

sullen grove Jul 16, 2021, 6:45 PM

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my main fighter i've actually removed all weapons on but one. one weapon with 6 modules is just that powerful. who needs more?

sullen grove Jul 16, 2021, 8:19 PM

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"pirates?"
BZzzzap
"where?"

vast temple Jul 16, 2021, 8:43 PM

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After spending an hour searching for mods to add more NPCs to my freighter and bases, I've come to the conclusion that I'd love an update that allows you to populate your freighter and bases with NPCs.

tidal kernel Jul 16, 2021, 10:29 PM

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I would like to see if some day they release a kit to create missions.... and be able to share them...

vast temple Jul 16, 2021, 10:34 PM

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A modding community backed by the devs would be cool. Like old Bethesda.

keen glen Jul 16, 2021, 10:34 PM

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toxic slate regarding enemies, I'm a broken drum on this but the Sentinels don't really offe...

There's a similar argument to be made about both the main quest lines. They're essentially travel from A to B with no challenge at all. It would be nice to have more puzzles or anything to make them feel more interactive.

supple warren Jul 17, 2021, 3:01 AM

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toxic slate regarding enemies, I'm a broken drum on this but the Sentinels don't really offe...

imo that's why you elaborate on the Sentinels so they're closer to the threat as described in lore, which I would imagine to have better AI and not just overwhelming numbers

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like it's honestly pretty silly that there's no humanoid or smaller scale biped Sentinels, nor any aquatic Sentinels, nor for that matter atmospheric Sentinels albeit I guess one can consider their ships that, or the Drones, but eh

toxic slate Jul 17, 2021, 3:13 AM

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supple warren imo that's why you elaborate on the Sentinels so they're closer to the threat as...

The problem with doubling down on Sentinels is they are effectively an unbeatable enemy. An unbeatable enemy that is oppressively watching you on almost every planet. If there was some sort of MMO narrative path where the community could end up overthrowing the Sentinels or defeating them in some way, that could be compelling. I think that sense of progress, of hope, of defeat and then a victory, that's what makes game conflicts memorable and enjoyable. Not in fighting battles that make no difference. That's why I think shifting the conflict source to NPCs makes more sense. There you can have a bounty hunter after you, a raid on a pirate gang, a trade negotiation gone wrong, a cultural faux pas leading to a death duel, etc. That makes more moments you want to tell your friends about.

supple warren Jul 17, 2021, 3:16 AM

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I don't see that as a unique problem though considering next to every game has unbeatable perpetual enemies, the biggest difference being there's no narrative reason behind why

Regardless, I didn't mean to suggest elaboration on Sentinels as an either/or situation, but as a somewhat more natural direction to go in given current arrangements

toxic slate Jul 17, 2021, 3:22 AM

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to be fair, I just looked on zendesk and noticed I requested bipedal Sentinels almost 4 years ago lol Make the current drones only scan and report threats. Add a new bipedal foot soldier. When a drone flags a player as a threat, call in a dropship which drops X number of soldier droids in the area. As they can only walk, this would make terrain a factor in battles, and it would give the Sentinels more tactical options such as flanking maneuvers. You could also make sub-types of these soldiers with specialized weapons to provide additional tactical challenges.

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I suspect they haven't done it because the pathfinding can be a bit dodgy at times, especially when hilly terrain is involved

supple warren Jul 17, 2021, 3:23 AM

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Given how the game is structurally, though, I kind of don't see how any conflicts could manage to eke out any sense of progress, whether Sentinel or alien though.

It's like trying to deforest an area or extinguish a species on a planet, even if you could for a moment, the game would restore them eventually. Game's not built for long-term memory, but then not many games are

toxic slate Jul 17, 2021, 3:26 AM

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I'm not sure it necessarily has to provide long-term memory for there to be "wins". Let's say you enter into a trade deal with some black market pirates but try to swindle them, things go pear shaped and the blasters come out. You end up barely making it out alive. It would be great if that organization remembered you, but even if not it's still a great situation which arose emergently and which you were able to overcome

supple warren Jul 17, 2021, 3:30 AM

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maybe, I was going off what you had mentioned earlier with more of a narrative beat or battles that make a difference. That could be a fun moment, but in what way might it make a difference?

toxic slate Jul 17, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Yeah, I suppose I am speaking differently wrt Sentinels vs. other proposed encounters. If NMS remains without long-term memory then there's no difference to be made in any armed conflict other than the type of MMO community victories which cause HG-led sweeping changes. But I think using NPCs as potential threats creates more emergent possibilities when those NPCs are given greater agency to carry out their own goals. Sentinels only have one purpose otoh. You can make them more tactically complex, but narratively they exist for one reason. So I guess when I say "make a difference" what I'm really saying is "tell a better story"

supple warren Jul 17, 2021, 3:36 AM

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I getcha, and I think part of where i was going was basically give the existing enemies more depth

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Another thing I was thinking of was, if they don't want to use the aliens for whatever reason, introduce infested aliens in a similar vein to biohorrors and use that as a way to give the monstrosities more backstory

swift bolt Jul 17, 2021, 5:21 AM

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Have one of the future expeditions be a Warframe crossover.

south sparrow Jul 17, 2021, 5:47 AM

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so like a week ago i made a comment here about how i think we should be able to customize ships. yesterday, or the day before, i was on the subreddit and saw a similar idea, but instead of being able to customize ships, you make your own with a similar quest to the living ship quest. what do you guys think about that?
i think that would be a good way to keep unique and procedurally generated ships in the game, while still being able to make a ship from scratch over a quest. it would be a one-time quest and you'd get one ship from it.. completely unique to your style.

dull field Jul 17, 2021, 5:52 AM

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Depending on how that would be done, it could be a disaster. Like, if it's a one-time-per-save quest, either it has to be very clear on its mechanics and allow for non-nebulous customization, or the implementation is just... accepting that a ton of people are going to have to mess it up before anyone gets the thing they actually want.

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And also, by the nature of how ships work in NMS - and procedural generation as a whole - no ship will ever be "completely unique."

south sparrow Jul 17, 2021, 5:56 AM

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then if we can't have completely unique ships, then we should get an x-wing or some type of ship. like.. we got the mass effect crossover, and now we have the golden vector, is it outlandish to want an x-wing in the game via a quicksilver unlock for like 5-10K or an expedition reward? or a really hard, long quest?

dull field Jul 17, 2021, 6:00 AM

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It would require licensing from Disney, first and foremost.

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They could add something adjacent, but they can't just slap a famous spaceship into the game without asking :P

sullen grove Jul 17, 2021, 6:06 AM

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and disney straight up would say no.

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this game ain't from EA, we ain't getting shit disney holds

dull field Jul 17, 2021, 6:10 AM

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Honestly, I'm kinda glad.

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But also, even if Disney were agreeable, I don't think the licensing fees they'd charge would be worth it.

supple warren Jul 17, 2021, 6:19 AM

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but also why is the reflex to go to licensed crap if one can't have unique ships?

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That said, I don't think the original idea mentioned is bad, and I've even mentioned here & there that I'd like to see secondary missions offer ships & multitools as rewards

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However, I wouldn't make these missions similar to Starbirth because on one hand that would take away from it a bit, and on the other that mission chain sucks thanks to timers atm.

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I think having a mix of mission rewards, some where they only tell you that you'll get a [type] ship that draws from the system pool, or others that tell & show you a specific ship with its own proc-gen name or whatever could be interesting.

Same with multitools.

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The "random" mission type that would reward a [type] ship/multitool would offer an alternative to just waiting around or reloading a bunch, and the deterministic type would do the same & offer something else to log and share for others to have another reason to visit certain star systems

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Might just be me, but that would be a far superior mission reward compared to just about anything Nexus or station missions currently offer

magic pilot Jul 17, 2021, 7:16 AM

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I would love to see conquering and full scale wars among players, bubbles of territory in space that are shaped based on the stars around them

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to see those wars go on, empires of groups of players rise and fall... thats what i wish to see

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the game has been made as good as possible in overall mechanics (some readjustments needed but overall complete), now all thats left is to add group mechanics

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oh, and when the roamer slides i would like to see more dirt or smoke akin to drifting cars irl

timid badge Jul 17, 2021, 8:03 AM

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^ yes

copper dawn Jul 17, 2021, 9:28 AM

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Talking about combat and enemies, for me it's stupid that I can't even shoot npcs on planets, who all have multitools and there is no explanation for it. (Downfall is going to fix this BS, if true.) Weirder is that we can shoot friendly ships in space or even a space station, even though we do 0 damage to it.

wooden python Jul 17, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Special events on planets with the imminant core destruction where it explodes after an amount of time or the corrupt planets change terrain around the player after an amount of time like a glitch

keen raven Jul 17, 2021, 12:19 PM

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Honestly I just want varied space station interiors and a proper guild/civilization system ingame

copper dawn Jul 17, 2021, 1:57 PM

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Maybe also varied buildings interiors depending on the aliens?

visual cloak Jul 17, 2021, 2:40 PM

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can you imagine if they added actual Dune-like planets in the coming update

frank dagger Jul 17, 2021, 2:40 PM

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Stations are mad ugly both outside and inside

visual cloak Jul 17, 2021, 2:44 PM

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they’re just boring and have little variation

copper dawn Jul 17, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Which doesn´t make sense as each alien species should have different tech. And are even not biological in case of Korvax.

visual cloak Jul 17, 2021, 3:52 PM

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yep. if they’re adding rumored cities and all that, i could see the vanilla buildings getting overhauled

dense sand Jul 17, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Transferring saved outfits between saves would save some time so I don't have to re-make them

toxic slate Jul 17, 2021, 4:55 PM

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I can’t ever see cities being a thing. The magic of this game is in the outdoor environments , not their pre-fab cookie cutter buildings

visual cloak Jul 17, 2021, 5:02 PM

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right

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i got tired of the cookie cutter buildings soon after launch

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which is why they’d benefit from being more diverse with more procedural variation.

mint sphinx Jul 17, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Hello all! anyone that can help with FOV?

dense sand Jul 17, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Also cross-save would be awesome, maybe use a system where you link the accounts through the website qm_thirdperson_char

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Do the devs read this or get sent the best stuff from here?

violet vortex Jul 17, 2021, 5:24 PM

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mint sphinx Hello all! anyone that can help with FOV?

Noticed you posted same question across multiple unrelated channels btw. #nms-questions is the right channel for your question so for future reference, there is no need to spam the same in other channels.

mint sphinx Jul 17, 2021, 5:26 PM

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I did mainly because no one was answering the question. Figured someone might know the answer that was active in another channel

violet vortex Jul 17, 2021, 5:27 PM

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mint sphinx I did mainly because no one was answering the question. Figured someone might kn...

Just give users time to respond, or ask the same question in #nms-questions at a later time. No need to spam the same across multiple channels. Just a friendly reminder as a moderator.

sullen grove Jul 17, 2021, 5:27 PM

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yeah but this channel is about discussions for what nms could add or change, or just general idea chatter, you're asking for help.. which would be in help or maybe modding

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there are several mods for FOV

mint sphinx Jul 17, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Mmm copy that..

sullen grove Jul 17, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Now don't take it that we're telling you off, we're just kindly redirecting.

dense sand Jul 17, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Space animals would be so awesome

dull field Jul 17, 2021, 8:22 PM

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I think a custom ship could be good, but I can just see a lot of ways it could go bad.

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A lot of the things in this game are either kind of nebulous or trial-and-error, and if they made it a one-time quest, you might feel stuck with the decisions or mistakes you made

vale hornet Jul 17, 2021, 8:23 PM

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vale hornet I'm still sticking with the customizable ships however you can ship hunt for cer...

Ye they could be

dull field Jul 17, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Why are you talking to yourself?

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Also I think if you could just... customize your whole fleet, it would remove a lot of the impetus to actually look for certain ships.

sturdy lily Jul 17, 2021, 8:25 PM

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the ability to teleport directly to your freighter would be nice

dull field Jul 17, 2021, 8:25 PM

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sturdy lily the ability to teleport directly to your freighter would be nice

It strikes me as weird that the quickmenu sometimes has a "Return to Anomaly" link, but not always.

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I realize Freighters are a bit more annoying to deal with, since most other teleporters are anchored in space.

sturdy lily Jul 17, 2021, 8:26 PM

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that's because you teleported to that area via the anomaly, so it gives you an option to return since you can't teleport to it directly

dull field Jul 17, 2021, 8:27 PM

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But on the same note, you could get in your ship, fly into space, and summon the Anomaly in most cases.

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Unless you're in a really bad ship and have nothing in your pockets.

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Like... the only scenario I can imagine is that you have a mission on an Extreme planet and gathering the materials to recharge your launch thrusters is a suicide mission.

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And of course, you don't have the automatic rechargers installed.

tame dragon Jul 18, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Will we ever have a voice controlled AI that you can give orders to and chat with, like in Elite Dangerous?

rotund stratus Jul 18, 2021, 7:39 PM

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tame dragon Will we ever have a voice controlled AI that you can give orders to and chat wit...

Isn't that player made? Honestly I don't think there's enough functions on the ships or on foot to make it very useful

tame dragon Jul 18, 2021, 8:25 PM

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rotund stratus Isn't that player made? Honestly I don't think there's enough functions on the s...

Idk really, but if it's player made I'm assuming they have like a broader support for mods?

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I think it'd be a nice addition, you might first think there are not many functions but as soon as honestly in this game we spend 50% of our time going thru menues

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I mean, you could query anything from the discovery type via a voice command

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You could call for any action in the quick menu too, like call your ship, summon the frigate, the Anomaly, etc

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You could definitely pcommand your ship by voice, things like scan a planet, focus on next planet, hyper travel to that planet, etc

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You could also craft by voice, I mean to craft a metal plate you have to open the menu, go to the inventory tab, go to a slot, press the craft button, scroll until you find whatever you want to craft, press the craft button

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You could just say "craft 20 metal plates" and boom, you're all set

kind moat Jul 18, 2021, 9:11 PM

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something i would like is if you could build turrets at your base so if your running from sentinels they turrets can help

sharp zinc Jul 18, 2021, 9:15 PM

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kind moat something i would like is if you could build turrets at your base so if your run...

Funnily enough, I was thinking earlier today it would be fun if there were some planets that had life sufficiently hostile to warrant setting up a base with walls and turrets (like a Space Ark Survival base), though I don't think NMS is likely to ever be that sort of game.

crimson abyss Jul 18, 2021, 9:34 PM

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What if we had animations of your character getting in and out of your ships? A small suggestion, purely aesthetic of course but I think would add some good realistic qualities to the game

rotund stratus Jul 18, 2021, 9:40 PM

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sharp zinc Funnily enough, I was thinking earlier today it would be fun if there were some ...

I think if it was new, specific, dangerous planets it could work well

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That way you'd be able to opt into the gameplay

sharp zinc Jul 18, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Agreed

frank dagger Jul 18, 2021, 11:56 PM

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crimson abyss What if we had animations of your character getting in and out of your ships? A ...

I do agree with this to be honest. But I imagine a lot of people would get tired of this. It would have to take a maximum of 2 seconds. So to have an option, they should make the teleportation into the cockpit an upgrade you can buy if you wish.

toxic slate Jul 19, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Well character animations for entering/leaving ships would be difficult or awkward to implement universally because some cockpits are quite high off the ground

flint stirrup Jul 19, 2021, 1:20 AM

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I wish there was more variability between galaxies

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255 galaxies but only 4 galaxy types? aw

covert monolith Jul 19, 2021, 1:57 AM

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flint stirrup 255 galaxies but only 4 galaxy types? aw

A like fully sentinel galaxy would be interesting, where everything had robotic and metallic variations, the galaxy could be called "subsumed galaxy". Since subsumed means absorbed, and that's what the sentinels do, they absorb and take over planets kinda.

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It could introduce a whole new set of sentinel themed ships, cosmetics, pets etc

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and allow for an expanded lore

soft marsh Jul 19, 2021, 2:11 AM

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A fully customizable galaxy/universe is the dream

toxic slate Jul 19, 2021, 2:14 AM

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galaxies that use different terrain gen parameters would be the dream for me

livid harness Jul 19, 2021, 3:00 AM

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How do we let Hello games know about the texture problems with the beyond update

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so it can be fixed for next one

flint stirrup Jul 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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Is it too much to ask for the devs to focus on an update solely to fix bugs

sullen grove Jul 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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i think the general concensus is that august 8th is bringing a huge update.

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anniversary and all

supple warren Jul 19, 2021, 5:24 AM

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soft marsh A fully customizable galaxy/universe is the dream

custom mode would be wicked

flint stirrup Jul 19, 2021, 5:25 AM

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sullen grove i think the general concensus is that august 8th is bringing a huge update.

I don't have much faith given these bugs have existed for the last 10 updates

supple warren Jul 19, 2021, 5:28 AM

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tbh I'm also not sure how that response related to what you mentioned, but for what it's worth i'd also appreciate more bug fix updates addressing persisting bugs

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like if we're stuck with refiners, least they could do is make them not eat resources and dupe stuff

and for the nomads among us it'd be nice if autonomous mining units and their gas harvesting contemporary wouldn't gather the wrong resources when you leave them

flint stirrup Jul 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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And it'd be nice if exotic ship models didn't randomly change to normal ships

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And it'd be nice if the MP system to visit friends based wasn't horrific

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And it'd be nice if friends could visit your base without that causing a full terrain reset

supple warren Jul 19, 2021, 5:34 AM

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Oh, and false positive resource deposits

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Would be nice if those were less of a thing, since it sucks to run over to nothing more than a mound of dirt

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Which also ties in neatly with stuff buried beneath bedrock, something that would also be nice to see less of

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Also the Starbirth mission chain sometimes adding multiple maturing organs you'd think would have been addressed by now...

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But then the armorer specialist base mission (https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Weapons_Research#Sentinel_Wave_Fighting) still getting stuck at one stage if you don't eliminate Sentinels the right way also hasn't so...

lyric phoenix Jul 19, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Not a huge deal, but it would be nice imo if the non-consumable Quicksilver items were unlocked per account, rather than per save - it's a lot of work to unlock all that stuff, and I am not looking forward to doing it even once, let alone 2+ times.

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I'd also like to either be able to play through the earlier Expeditions and unlock those rewards, or have their rewards hidden in-game - it's cruel to taunt us with what we can't have. 😛

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The ability to search for a specific star system by name in the galaxy map (like in Elite Dangerous) would also be a very welcome addition.

sullen grove Jul 19, 2021, 6:03 PM

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I'd like a setting on the galaxy map

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Current mission
Atlas station
Black hole
NEARBY PLAYERS

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It would fade all star systems except those a player are at, within jump range of your current ship

supple warren Jul 19, 2021, 6:12 PM

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speaking of, in a similar vein I'd like an ability to filter by discovered systems so I know which systems to skip

lyric phoenix Jul 19, 2021, 6:13 PM

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And filter by system economy and/or conflict level, as opposed to only type, for those of us that like to visit T3 economies 😉

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Wouldn't even have to fade them out, just red = T1, yellow = T2, green = T3 would suffice.

supple warren Jul 19, 2021, 6:14 PM

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which in turn makes me think they should add something special to the middling & poor systems, as there really isn't much incentive to visit them if I'm not mistaken

lyric phoenix Jul 19, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Should be able to find lots of cheap goods in the poor systems, imo

supple warren Jul 19, 2021, 6:15 PM

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are we sure that isn't the case now? because that's where my thoughts were going first too

lyric phoenix Jul 19, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Never occurred to me to check, tbh. Could also be interesting to have the Black Market Dealers more likely to appear in T1 economies.

toxic slate Jul 19, 2021, 7:39 PM

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kind of wish we had a hang glider we could pop out

vast temple Jul 19, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Like as an upgrade for the jetpack? That'd be awesome.

toxic slate Jul 19, 2021, 8:29 PM

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yeah, some sort of exosuit add-on module to eanble BOTW style gliding off of mountains

vast temple Jul 19, 2021, 11:07 PM

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I'd love that. I would find a mountainous planet and build a base just for flying.

unique cloak Jul 19, 2021, 11:48 PM

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So, I just wanted to through this out there, but... I'd really, really love to see the ability when manipulating terrain to view the Grid. Instead of only seeing the grid wall when I'm actually digging at or adding in terrain, I'd like to be able to just toggle it on and off to view it at will. And maybe some sort of "Slope" manipulation to make it easier to craft hill sides and stuff. Even if it comes in the form of a triangle wedge as opposed to a square or circle.

short abyss Jul 20, 2021, 4:12 PM

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lyric phoenix I'd also like to either be able to play through the earlier Expeditions and unlo...

Well to be fair the point of those expeditions were one off exclusive events you had to be there for. Its fomo but you had 2 months to complete some piss easy challenges and a bit less than a month to complete an even easier set of challenges.
They didnt ask alot aside from just being there

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Also the rewards were kinda shite anyway. The gold vectors stats suck ass even with its upgrades, and the ss normandy from mass effect is a cool looking s class freighter (thats it). Not a capital ship that you could enter just a cool freighter you can only see in hologram form which makes it hard to tell what it is anyway

lyric phoenix Jul 20, 2021, 4:15 PM

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@short abyss I understand that, FOMO-driven content is just one of my least favorite aspects of modern gaming. Besides, I didn't even own the game until last month, so... 🤷

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At the very least, it would be nice not to have the rewards I don't qualify for visible at the Quicksilver vendor - there's nothing I can do to attain them, so thanks so much for showing them to me lol.

short abyss Jul 20, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Ye and fomo is unfair if it demands constant attention or risk missing out. But this..? I did it in 5 days for exp 1 and i did exp 2 in 2 days

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I understand your late to the party but for those that were there literally had all the time in the world

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Also again the rewards look nice yeah but are pretty crap. So missing out isnt a big deal

lyric phoenix Jul 20, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Exactly, so just hide them from the interface is all I'm really asking.

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They clearly already know I don't qualify for them as I cannot select them, so rather than making them unclickable, make them invisible.

lyric phoenix Jul 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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A QoL feature I'd like to see is for the "Incoming Message" notifications to NOT black out the ship's radar - it would vastly improve space navigation around freighters.

idle zephyr Jul 20, 2021, 5:35 PM

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i would love to never have to do the "hold to skip" thing ever again when i teleport or land on a planet or enter a system

supple warren Jul 20, 2021, 5:52 PM

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short abyss Also the rewards were kinda shite anyway. The gold vectors stats suck ass even w...

not that it matters a ton, but the Normandy was a frigate, and what ya call a capital ship is a freighter

only point it out because a freighter is a distinct object in the game from frigates

supple warren Jul 20, 2021, 5:54 PM

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lyric phoenix At the very least, it would be nice not to have the rewards I don't qualify for ...

i suspect besides oversight or something they may keep those in the interface because they might eventually make expeditions like weekend missions, where they have them running in an automated fashion pulling from a set of expeditions

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That way you may eventually be able to get those rewards again if they do get around to recycling the Expeditions

short abyss Jul 20, 2021, 5:57 PM

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In my opinion making 20-24 or so unique expeditions and having them run month to month pulled randomly would be cool

supple warren Jul 20, 2021, 6:29 PM

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@atomic cave tbh i'd love to see a series of dedicated freighter updates that gives them the same focus as planetside bases, improving a bunch about them, including their basebuilding section

atomic cave Jul 20, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Hahahaha sorry, did i write it in the wrong section? I thought that because i was remembering the old freighters that it would be propper to put it in legacy :p

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But yea @supple warren there's so much i'd love to see on feighters. An evolution of sorts

supple warren Jul 20, 2021, 6:34 PM

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@atomic cave it was sorta the right section for the remembering part, but the wanting the old stuff back leaned more this direction, or at least is where I was interested in going with it 😅

atomic cave Jul 20, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Lol yeah

vast path Jul 21, 2021, 5:09 AM

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So we don't have an easy way to manage all our Exocraft inventories from our freighter and managing them on the ground is tedious with having to switch between them.
They could add functionality to the current exocraft room by letting us access our exocraft inventory from this console in the room, similar to the storage rooms.
We'd have a tab for each exocraft in the interface like we do for the storage installed on our freighter. Thoughts on this?

supple warren Jul 21, 2021, 5:15 AM

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vast path So we don't have an easy way to manage all our Exocraft inventories from our fre...

i have had this exact same thought so it goes without saying i agree 100%

vast path Jul 21, 2021, 5:17 AM

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I poked Sean about it on twitter. Maybe if it blows up, it could be added? https://twitter.com/Earthserpent89/status/1417714634845417475?s=20

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While we're at it, let us show off our multitools on this weapon rack. It could add functionality to the decoration while giving us a way to collect more multitools. We might still be limited to only carrying 3 at a time, but we could store 1 or 2 on the weapon rack and make room to collect more.
I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this.

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Do we have evidence that Hello Games looks at this channel for feedback and feature requests? Kinda feels like shouting into the void.

supple warren Jul 21, 2021, 5:23 AM

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regarding the exocraft part above, i'd also love if we could have an exocraft garage or set of construction units to build on freighters which would unlock them for deployment and enable customization

vast path Jul 21, 2021, 5:24 AM

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vast path While we're at it, let us show off our multitools on this weapon rack. It could ...

this kinda gets at a bigger issue I have with the base building as a whole. While decorations are nice, I'd like to see more functional base components that serve a purpose.

supple warren Jul 21, 2021, 5:24 AM

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vast path Do we have evidence that Hello Games looks at this channel for feedback and feat...

Typically it's best to submit suggestions/feedback to their Zendesk

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!hg

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You can submit suggestions/feedback directly to Hello Games with this link: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

vast path Jul 21, 2021, 5:26 AM

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supple warren Typically it's best to submit suggestions/feedback to their Zendesk

mindblown Thanks! I'll do that for both of my above suggestions!

supple warren Jul 21, 2021, 5:39 AM

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vast path this kinda gets at a bigger issue I have with the base building as a whole. Whil...

agree a bunch on this btw, but for both planetside and freighter bases. Atm freighter bases are more lacking in utilities, albeit not without some major bonuses compared to planetside

idle zephyr Jul 21, 2021, 12:40 PM

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i just want refiners to snap to the floor in my freighter

desert dagger Jul 21, 2021, 12:42 PM

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Why ? It does work better then in the base

idle zephyr Jul 21, 2021, 12:46 PM

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so it can look organized idk, recently had to switch to refining on a planetside base anyway though. things were disappearing out of my refiner sometimes when i accessed the contents at the end of the cycle. rip

late oasis Jul 21, 2021, 1:27 PM

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procedural mini expeditions, ultra rare buildings, long procedural missions for find they (similar to abandon freighters but travelling in some systems) , a log with milestones about ultra-rare objects and discoveries

visual cloak Jul 21, 2021, 2:13 PM

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sphere ship to camouflage as a bubble on bubble planets please

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 12:17 AM

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also

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why are volcanoes exclusive to 1 biome? makes no sense, makes the universe all the more samey

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 12:20 AM

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they can be diff colors tho 🙂

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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🙂

sturdy lily Jul 22, 2021, 2:06 AM

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you know those 'imminent core detonation' planets? what if there were planets that have undergone core "detonation"? as in, the core has fading out of activity. This could be a subbiome that
1; entirely removes the magnetic field, removing electromagnetic hotspots.
2; makes the planet radioactive, along with whatever other hazards it may also have.
3; removes the atmosphere. no weather, lower gravity, no gas extraction.
4; flora and fauna are made rarer by one level lower than usual
I think it could be an interesting thing to stumble upon occasionally

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 3:01 AM

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I think any new planet types need to provide new gameplay and/or exploration opportunities

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 3:04 AM

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existing ones could also use experiential depth

sturdy lily Jul 22, 2021, 3:06 AM

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toxic slate I think any new planet types need to provide new gameplay and/or exploration opp...

It wouldn't be a new type, it'd be a subbiome ontop of existing planets, like infested

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 3:11 AM

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sturdy lily It wouldn't be a new type, it'd be a subbiome ontop of existing planets, like in...

sure, I mean that would be ok, but I would like to see something new and exciting brought to planets if they are going to futz with them more. the volcano and swamp planet types were a bit superficial in their implementation of those biomes. and well... those swamp and marsh planets don't even resemble the real thing

gloomy hazel Jul 22, 2021, 3:30 AM

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What would need to be added for you to spend more than 2 hours on an update?

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 4:00 AM

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personally: something that isn't collect stuff to craft~build/sell/give for rewards and/or assisting in that stuff, and not fluff, i.e. lore, superficially distinct but mechanically identical biomes

Like a non-timegated mission chain that isn't tutorializing stuff & with different scripted stuff happening might do it.

Artemis Path is very close to being a good mission chain imo, were it not essentially an extended tutorial. Starbirth as well, were it not for the grind for the egg and timegating.

For general non-mission related gameplay, derelicts were pretty decent, but mechanically they're rather uninteresting to me considering they're more or less a looter space.

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i guess tl;dr would be something along the lines of more gameplay variety and, failing that, more scripted events to at least give some more diverse experiences

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 4:50 AM

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For me, I think the bespoke narrative pieces don't fit a procedurally-driven game like this. Ultimately what will give this game more replayability is doubling down on procedural systems. Creating planet and system-based procedural lore, cultures, and archaeology will give every player a unique story to experience and tell. They started down this path with the procedural descriptions of wildlife, but they should massively expand on it. Searching for things you've never seen is at the heart of exploration and I think this deepening of procedural uniqueness to planets and systems would keep exploration fresh, beyond visual differences.

Secondly, they should expand missions and NPC activities. Instead of singular mission dispensers, every NPC has their own goals. They might want you to do some work for them, partner with you, or steal from you. This can lead to other interactions, like finding a pirate gang or angering a miner you are trying to mine in "their" territory. No longer are you running static missions from a NPC vending machine, you are participating in a more alive society.

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 5:47 AM

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that would be up there in my longshot ideal territory, at least the first part

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speaking more abstractly, i think it would also be nice if there was a stronger sense of a comprehensive vision behind series of updates, such that they're really building on each other, rather than feeling somewhat haphazard and disjointed

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Take for instance the livestock farming Beyond introduced, with different baits/foods for different animals, only for basically all of it to be gutted with Companions.

Also consider the inconsistency in navigation tools, such that we saw signal boosters intro'd in Foundation, made a vehicle tech in Pathfinder, scan options shuffled about between versions, costs added to the on-foot signal booster scans, and then eventually it being gutted for planetary charts while being kept about as deployable tech because ???

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Hell, just look at AMUs and Atmosphere Harvesters as well. A good deployable tech largely overshadowed by extractors thanks to no changes made to make them more reliable nor distinctly beneficial by comparison.

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:00 AM

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I think to answer those questions we would have to know about how their internal development process works. I suspect especially with part/most of the team siphoned off to work on their new game, long-term planning isn't done much

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Not to mention the number of throwaway technologies introduced solely for mission chains that never play a role anywhere else...

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:00 AM

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I liked the one for starbirth, whatever the beam one was

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:01 AM

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It's less a question and more a desire to see any larger picture thinking at play

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On one hand it's obviously there in backend improvements, but on the other, in the moment to moment gameplay, it's hard to see

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:03 AM

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if I was to be cynical, their new game might be benefiting from the technical/graphical improvements they make to NMS, assuming they are using the same or similar game engine

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:04 AM

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I really hope the reflections are worked on because they're noisy af and i prefer the baked images

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:05 AM

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I do sort of hope they lurk this channel in particular, lol

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:06 AM

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How many times have they had their fingers hovering over the enter key in this discord, do you think

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:06 AM

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I would like to know why they haven't "fixed" the water shader since introducing it in NEXT. do they think it looks good?

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:07 AM

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Catering, probably. For older systems

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Which is weird because we rarely get people with system performance issues

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And when we do, it's almost ALWAYS for a beefy rig, not an underpowered one

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:08 AM

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I feel like I've seen a fair mix of both

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Like underpowered you expect so eh, but midrange & over the top you see mixed performance

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:08 AM

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You're in here a lot more, and probably in more chats too so you've probably seen more

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:08 AM

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Some of it seems to be like CPU not cutting it while GPU is fine or vice versa, lol

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NMS is one of those oddballs that really demands a fair amount from both CPU & GPU

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:09 AM

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I've seen people several times with 30 series rtx cards and the 10k series intel chips have like 30-40 fps to no avail

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:10 AM

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ok... but was the old water more graphically intensive? because although it looked outdated, at least it was pleasant to look at

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:10 AM

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But also, if we set aside PC, base consoles definitely have been left behind

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:10 AM

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For sure

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:10 AM

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toxic slate ok... but was the old water more graphically intensive? because although it look...

I dont know, never seen it

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Was it better?

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:10 AM

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Well, base last gen I guess I should say, so PS4/Xbox One

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:11 AM

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supple warren But also, if we set aside PC, base consoles *definitely* have been left behind

sort of...but honestly Prisms had big perf improvements for base consoles. I can actually run it frame unlocked on my base PS4 and it doesn't turn into a jet engine

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:11 AM

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toxic slate ok... but was the old water more graphically intensive? because although it look...

I think what they meant was that they may not have improved the water visuals further perhaps as a means to accommodate varying/weaker hardware configs

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:11 AM

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otoh the draw distance for placed objects and grass is much worse than it used to be

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:12 AM

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The distance is worse or the performance impact is worse?

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:12 AM

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That being said, I don't know which water visual implementation might be more performant

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:13 AM

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deft prawn The distance is worse or the performance impact is worse?

distance is worse. on my PS4, plants will pop in 5 feet in front of me. jetpack boosting easily outruns grass rendering.

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:13 AM

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For water, you need caustics for sure. And valheim did it great with slowly updated path traced reflections

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:14 AM

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toxic slate distance is worse. on my PS4, plants will pop in 5 feet in front of me. jetpack ...

That's for everyone. That's just the terrain lagging behind the melee jump, but pop in has been horrible for consoles i hear

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:15 AM

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deft prawn That's for everyone. That's just the terrain lagging behind the melee jump, but ...

the grass rendering is a regression though. pre-NEXT you couldn't outrun it like that. the radius was limited yes, but the rendering never fell behind the player's velocity.

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:16 AM

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I've noticed it just walking around

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:16 AM

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tbh a decent amount of the object LODs have seemed flaky to me since Next, more easily noticeable on frozen planets thanks to the dense forests, but also in other biomes

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As in patches of trees literally popping in and out of view just walking and looking around

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:18 AM

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Yeah. I'm not one for outsourcing for your own games, but maybe they should have done that for some help with improving the lod stuff. Billboards or something. But not pop in. That's the worst

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:19 AM

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e.g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6OMGE9paM

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Well the awkward thing is, like Solar said, it used to be handled better, and they do use the billboard technique...Sometimes, or something similar anyway.

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:20 AM

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I'm just surprised they don't consider it a priority to fix. surely they play the game and see the pop in

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Yeah, I agree.

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Hey, you know how we can let them know?

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!hg

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Uh, gunter

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:22 AM

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gunter doesn't live in the future

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Okay well you got it

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:24 AM

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i mean i reported this ages ago with the above video and...Yeah, lol

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:24 AM

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yeah despite the pages of bugs i've filed I don't think I've ever (formally) complained about the pop in. it's a good point

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:25 AM

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What is it like when they contact you for a bug. Do they even do that?

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:26 AM

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Apparently they will rarely do so, but I've never been one to receive a response, so can't say

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:26 AM

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I don't think I've ever been contacted

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:26 AM

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That's crazy

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:26 AM

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Well, let me rephrase, they will rarely respond, I don't know how often if ever they may contact folks about them

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:27 AM

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You'd think that if they lurked in here which they probably do, that they'd know who is good at submitting and who's not

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Yeah maybe what you said leon

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:28 AM

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More often than not I don't think they'll contact folks about bugs, unless they've posted about them somewhere they do happen to watch, and it happens to be a more severe issue

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:28 AM

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they have commented publicly of "we hear the reports of X Y Z and looking into it" in the past, but personal contacts probably not too often unless maybe someone has data corruption or something

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:29 AM

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Something like that, probably

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:29 AM

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Yeah, people with saves that have hundreds of hours on them and report save corruption of some sort are the very few cases I've seen of them reaching out

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:30 AM

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my OCD just wishes they would update the bug status, I have years old bugs that are still listed as open lol. though big tech companies aren't always better at this

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Besides that, during bigger updates they've occasionally requested saves to help smooth the transition

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 6:30 AM

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supple warren Yeah, people with saves that have hundreds of hours on them and report save corr...

Honestly that's the best time to say "oh by the way, while you're here..."

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Like prior to Origins they requested saves as I recall

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 2:02 PM

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toxic slate my OCD just wishes they would update the bug status, I have years old bugs that ...

HG kinda small though arent they?

deft prawn Jul 22, 2021, 2:25 PM

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idle zephyr HG kinda small though arent they?

No excuse

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 2:26 PM

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yeah that was more a response to it being a common problem with big companies idk, i digress

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 6:39 PM

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lilypads

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and other things that can float on water surfaces

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makeshift boats you can find npcs using in lakes and oceans, either sailing or fishing, or beached and dead on shore

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:41 PM

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ships with floats that can land on the water seanbomination

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 6:41 PM

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haha

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oversized floats

supple warren Jul 22, 2021, 6:42 PM

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i never knew what to call these and now i know and i love it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floatplane

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 6:42 PM

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a float plane.

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these would be a really cool addition to nms honestly, maybe a new part in the procedural pool

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maybe even an entirely new ship type, so we have more specialized ships

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because they all do the same thing

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:44 PM

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or just make ships be able to land and float in water

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 6:44 PM

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they'd need to have the visuals to look believable

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:45 PM

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hmm there isn't much about this game that is believable though lol

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 6:45 PM

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you know what i mean though, make it look like it's aquatic friendly

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i'm not talking 'realism'

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:45 PM

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maybe if landing on water the landing gear would look more like pontoons

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 6:46 PM

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yeah

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 6:48 PM

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either that or have jet engines appear on bottom of ships to just have them hover above the water surface, similar to what the Nomad does

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 6:50 PM

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that's basically what the nautilon does when its at the surface lol

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 8:56 PM

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lily pads when

prisma cradle Jul 22, 2021, 8:58 PM

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BIOMES

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planets are cool and all but having distinct regions of a planet beign a differnet climate or having different weathers would be so nice

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like having a lush planet with harsher hotter environments in the equator and colder far up north or far down south

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also actual natural disasters instead of just storms and stuff

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like volcanos, earthquakes

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tornados

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tsumani's

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 9:01 PM

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there actually are volcanos and tornados. well the volcanos don't erupt, but they exist

prisma cradle Jul 22, 2021, 9:01 PM

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really? i've never seen a single tornado

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or volcano for a matter of fact

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 9:02 PM

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volcanos exist on specific lava biome types. the implementation isn't great, but it's something. I haven't seen a tornado myself either, I think they exist in extreme storms with certain conditions. they added them in the Origins update

prisma cradle Jul 22, 2021, 9:03 PM

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i see

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:03 PM

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don't worry, once you find a volcanic biome, you'll see plenty of them

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then you'll be tired of them

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because isn't that how it is in real life?

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we see volcanoes so much in real life and become tired of them /s

prisma cradle Jul 22, 2021, 9:03 PM

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to be fair i've only explored deeply in euclid

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euclid itself is so big so i've never bothered going to a new galaxy yet

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even though i have the capabilities to.

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 9:06 PM

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the lava biomes exist in Euclid, i can't remember what their planetary descriptions are called

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:08 PM

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would be neat if there were biomes that were exclusive to certain galaxies

prisma cradle Jul 22, 2021, 9:09 PM

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you know what would be really neat

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being able to build a space station orbiting a planet

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like the ISS

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functionality wise im not sure what it could serve

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maybe it would be able to locate specific things in a planet

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:13 PM

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While I think space stations could use more diversity, I don't think being given the ability to build them is a great idea. We can already build bases on planets and in our freighter, and those alone need improvements

prisma cradle Jul 22, 2021, 9:18 PM

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well it doesnt necessarily have to be to advanced and its functionality doesnt have to be reliant on the player entering the space station like i said it could be use for scanning and locating things.

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pretty much a satellite

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:19 PM

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i suppose you could gain ownership over the current space stations

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then have access to new technologies in the system

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:25 PM

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toxic slate there actually are volcanos and tornados. well the volcanos don't erupt, but the...

the volcanos do erupt

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and ive been picked up by tornados

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you can build low orbit bases just a hassle

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 9:26 PM

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every time I see a volcano in NMS I think of that line in Monty Python's Holy Grail, "It's only a model"

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:26 PM

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they erupt and have lava flow

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i like them

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:27 PM

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imagine huge rocks coming out of volcanoes and rolling down, becoming a danger

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:27 PM

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base covered with ash

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 9:27 PM

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they are diminutive and shabby looking. they look more like a school science project. but if you like them that's cool

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:27 PM

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i like da game

lethal dagger Jul 22, 2021, 9:28 PM

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welcome to da game

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:28 PM

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thx i been here for a bit 🙂

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:28 PM

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I'd like to be exploring a lush planet and be surprised by a volcano that only exists at one location

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:29 PM

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volcano islands ooo

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:29 PM

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yes

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and, same idea, finding a little lush oasis on a desert planet

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:29 PM

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underwater volcanos oo

lethal dagger Jul 22, 2021, 9:29 PM

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idle zephyr thx i been here for a bit 🙂

Nice, I just got here 😄

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:30 PM

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welcome 🙂

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:30 PM

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we kinda do have underwater volcanoes

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the steam vents

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:30 PM

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lol the crystal sulphide vents

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:30 PM

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now that i think about it, those little steam vent things in the ocean have more of an effect on the player than volcanoes do...

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:30 PM

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spicy crystals

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:30 PM

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yes those

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:31 PM

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have u stepped in the volcano lava?

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:31 PM

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burns my feet, hurts a little

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:31 PM

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or tried driving over one? lol

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it kills quick

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:31 PM

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i'm sure it's more dangerous before becoming fully upgraded

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:31 PM

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wheres @kind wind to confirm lava hurts lol

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:32 PM

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same with fire

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i can stand in fire and enjoy looking up at the clouds and take a nice nap before i die

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 9:33 PM

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that's honestly why I haven't bothered upgrading my suit to SSS everything. it takes away what little environmental risk there is, and exploring without risk gets kind of boring

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:33 PM

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it's not a bad idea, removing all the upgrades

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though sometimes I like to chill and not worry about damage

toxic slate Jul 22, 2021, 9:34 PM

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I do like the fire storms on lava planets though, those are cool. I just wish the volcanos were at least twice as tall

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:34 PM

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fire is pretty

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:34 PM

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i like the upgrades primarily because they make the suit shut up lol

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:35 PM

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same

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that's the main benefit of upgrading

kind wind Jul 22, 2021, 9:42 PM

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idle zephyr wheres <@855096199967408189> to confirm lava hurts lol

Trust me it hurts😆

visual cloak Jul 22, 2021, 9:51 PM

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this just in

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breaking news

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lava hurts

idle zephyr Jul 22, 2021, 9:51 PM

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spicy feet

thin geode Jul 23, 2021, 3:42 AM

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spicy feet in spicy water

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:06 AM

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idle zephyr i like the upgrades primarily because they make the suit shut up lol

number one reason to play Creative 😂

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:09 AM

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supple warren number one reason to play Creative 😂

or play on PC and install the "shut tf up exosuit" mod

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:12 AM

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that said, a simple toggle for suit audio notices would be nice

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nobody needs to hear units received that much

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:21 AM

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yeah i was kind of mad it wasnt a simple setting. its way too aggressive

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with the notifications

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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funny thing is is that initially it was more frequent, lol

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:51 AM

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its really bad design

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one of the only things in the game i truly hate

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that and the amount of ammo i get on derelicts, ammo should not be in the loot pool at all

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its ferrite dust ugh

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 7:30 AM

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do you really wanna be crafting ammo in a derelict tho

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 7:41 AM

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no but im not gunna be using a full stack of ammo in one lol

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 2:24 PM

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you know, I was thinking, and i find it so perplexing that nothing generates on water surfaces, even when HG showed those weird bloated floating flora in the trailer before launch. It’s been 5 years and the only things that change up the water’s surface are when the ocean flora accidentally pokes out of the water

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it is nice when that happens, but it’s unintentional

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Here they are! always so hard to find

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:03 PM

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look how close that is to the shore tho, may be the same as stuff poking through we see now occasionally

toxic slate Jul 23, 2021, 6:26 PM

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would be cool to make lilypads like that more than a visual element. perhaps something like "New lakes have formed which have strange anti-technology properties. Jetpack propulsion may not function. Use the strange lilypads there to traverse the water, but beware: some may not appreciate your disturbance."

gloomy hazel Jul 23, 2021, 6:28 PM

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dude all the pre release trailers, I wuld be fine just exploring those planets alone

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:33 PM

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supple warren look how close that is to the shore tho, may be the same as stuff poking through...

you can tell they're floating, look at the bottom tentacley things

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:34 PM

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toxic slate would be cool to make lilypads like that more than a visual element. perhaps som...

yep I like that idea, give flora and fauna a purpose

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:35 PM

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visual cloak you can tell they're floating, look at the bottom tentacley things

that's what also gives me the impression they may be bulbs at the end of a plant in the ground, lol

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:36 PM

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it could be, but look how much they're sticking out of the water, they're all the same

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:36 PM

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visual cloak yep I like that idea, give flora and fauna a purpose

fauna has a purpose 🥲

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:36 PM

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which says that they're floatin

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:36 PM

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idle zephyr fauna has a purpose 🥲

haha

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:36 PM

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without fauna where would i go to tease out honey??

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or collect eggs

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:36 PM

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true

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:36 PM

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or gently milk some milk

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:36 PM

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but why don't fauna lay eggs on the ground in nests for us to find?

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WHY

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:36 PM

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did u know that much of NMS is just aesthetic/cosmetic seanbomination

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:36 PM

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they poo piles of poo to find!

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:37 PM

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visual cloak WHY

because u need to wait 24 hours for pet to gestate

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:37 PM

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I DONT WANT THEIR POO!

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no i will reach into their mouths and take it immediately

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:37 PM

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i do, faecium used for SD crafting

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this thing layin eggs every 40 seconds!!!

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:38 PM

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HG be dodgin' ecosystem sim stuff

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will improve animations and such, but more involved behavior? they run

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:39 PM

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running is so complex 10/10

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:40 PM

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i wonder if fauna still have the old sleep animation

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:42 PM

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they dont sleep, they just walk around goin "blahhcaw"

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did they actually have sleep cycles back in the day?

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Nothing robust, but you could occasionally catch them stopping, laying down for several seconds, then getting back up to roam around

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:45 PM

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i gotcha thats neat

hot flame Jul 23, 2021, 6:45 PM

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So is that what you want to see next? I'm confused by the past rumination in the future channel

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I'd like them to add more starship types, maybe like a scout vessel that could actually hover or a multi crew ship

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:46 PM

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more involved fauna behavior yes

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:48 PM

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supple warren i wonder if fauna still have the old sleep animation

isn't it just the pets now that sleep?

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:49 PM

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hot flame I'd like them to add more starship types, maybe like a scout vessel that could a...

i would love to see a rebalancing of ship types in all systems, they need to cut the shuttle count in half imo

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:49 PM

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dunno tbh, but i've seen people say pets have more robust behavior kept to themselves so wouldn't shock me

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y'know, like egg laying

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:49 PM

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hot flame I'd like them to add more starship types, maybe like a scout vessel that could a...

i want a spherical ship

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:49 PM

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but also more ship types would be cool

hot flame Jul 23, 2021, 6:49 PM

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visual cloak i want a spherical ship

Sure, any number of classic sci fi ships would be welcome

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:49 PM

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i would like them to delete the fighter dorsal fin from the game

toxic slate Jul 23, 2021, 6:50 PM

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It would be interesting if a possible creature ability was to send out a sort of EMP that disables your exosuit shielding for a time. that would put all the "look at my maxed S upgrade suit, I laugh at danger" players back in the thick of things

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:50 PM

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but thats a lil silly as a request

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:50 PM

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hot flame Sure, any number of classic sci fi ships would be welcome

actually yeah, imagine a small update that focused on the classic designs, but updated with their new artstyle/more detail

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 6:50 PM

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toxic slate It would be interesting if a possible creature ability was to send out a sort of...

like an electric eel or somethin ooo

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:50 PM

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by classics I mean flying saucer and such

hot flame Jul 23, 2021, 6:51 PM

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visual cloak actually yeah, imagine a small update that focused on the classic designs, but u...

Even taking some from their concept art would be neat, though they would fall into the current types

hot flame Jul 23, 2021, 6:51 PM

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visual cloak by classics I mean flying saucer and such

Yep!

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:51 PM

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I bet you they'll add a bunch more ship parts in from early concepts

hot flame Jul 23, 2021, 6:51 PM

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That would be fun

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:52 PM

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toxic slate It would be interesting if a possible creature ability was to send out a sort of...

this goes back to something I hoped for years ago, creatures with a variety of unusual abilities

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hostile fauna that catch you off guard in your travels

toxic slate Jul 23, 2021, 6:54 PM

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yeah, same. even simple things like spitting poison or something would add more challenge to creature encounters. right now everyone knows exactly what alien creatures can do, which is effectively...not very alien

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Do Bio Horrors spit at you?

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I know there was an animation or info on them doing that, maybe they do that now, but I never interact with them so i don't know

toxic slate Jul 23, 2021, 6:56 PM

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not sure, I don't mess with them either

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:56 PM

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toxic slate yeah, same. even simple things like spitting poison or something would add more ...

same with biomes tbh

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:56 PM

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imagine if there were really fluffy alpaca-like creatures that spit at your eyes, temporarily blinding you

supple warren Jul 23, 2021, 6:57 PM

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visual cloak I know there was an animation or info on them doing that, maybe they do that now...

if you get on top of structures i think they try to, since people were cheesing them that way for a bit

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 6:57 PM

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oh yeah

toxic slate Jul 23, 2021, 7:00 PM

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i would love to see all kinds of procedural abilities on creatures. some dangerous, some more like defensive postures, some are strange ways of moving, some just whimsical

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 7:00 PM

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(COUGH COUGH SUBNAUTICA)

toxic slate Jul 23, 2021, 7:01 PM

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I hear this constant refrain of "they add more stuff and people are never happy" but what they are adding is more coats of paint instead of deepening the procedural systems

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 7:01 PM

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I think that's generally how I feel about a week after an update unfortunately

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they have good ideas, and they seem great at first, but their ideas generally aren't fleshed out as much as they could be

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I'd pay for updates if they were fleshed out more solid

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 7:03 PM

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visual cloak Do Bio Horrors spit at you?

the ones on derelicts yeah

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 7:03 PM

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but that'll never happen

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oh the baby ones spit, forgot

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 7:04 PM

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they spit some pretty spicy spit lol

toxic slate Jul 23, 2021, 7:04 PM

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to be clear i'm not applying my statement to all of their update features, I'm just referring to when people ask for more planet diversity and then some in the community say "it's pointless, they can't ever add enough to satisfy people"

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 7:05 PM

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It's true about variation

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they can't just keep adding assets and satisfy people

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Leon's said it

toxic slate Jul 23, 2021, 7:05 PM

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and my point to that is, it's not about adding an anteater model or more insects, it's about deepening what they can do

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 7:05 PM

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correcto

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but who knows

toxic slate Jul 23, 2021, 7:06 PM

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of course more visual variation is nice too, and part of that hinges on the creature "assembly" system they use instead of a more Spore-like one

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 7:06 PM

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when Sean said Origins was a new foundation for future updates, maybe they're thinking more about the depth of things

sullen grove Jul 23, 2021, 7:22 PM

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i'd love to see world with much deeper water biomes

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legit oceans that you NEED the minisub for

hot flame Jul 23, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Agreed

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 7:23 PM

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yeah i want deeper oceans too

hot flame Jul 23, 2021, 7:23 PM

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And leviathan class fauna under there

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 7:23 PM

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deepest ive found is just over 120u

sullen grove Jul 23, 2021, 7:23 PM

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and yeah, more underwater things

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flora and fauna

idle zephyr Jul 23, 2021, 7:24 PM

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i did just recently learn about the underwater treasure chests tho that was a nice surprise

hot flame Jul 23, 2021, 7:26 PM

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They have a decent amount of underwater assets - I think with depth and increased potential sizes/amounts it would be magical. Would love to see depths that actually go into the black

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 7:30 PM

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i'm going to share the creature from Subnautica I love that would be cool inspiration for new fauna in NMS

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these things

sullen grove Jul 23, 2021, 7:31 PM

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problem is planetary "depth" is usually very shallow.. i don't think you can dig down more than 20 units before you hit bedrock and can't dig any more

visual cloak Jul 23, 2021, 7:31 PM

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they're huge and move very slowly

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mmm yes so deep that the light doesn't reach it, making flashlights and nautilon necessary