nms-the-future

[fallen hawk]

for instance, clearer stat definitions for modules and techs. currently it seems like there are a number of hidden stats for modules, and being able to understand how supercharging and adjacency bonuses work out in terms of total stat increases would be great

[wise heart]

Yes

[pastel minnow]

Dammit I keep forgetting this isn't a thing 😩

Imagine all the names you'd see for the starter ship.
"Internet Explorer of starships"
"Getting scrapped within the hour"
"Aw redacted, here we go again"

[boreal pendant]

will there be co-op with random people anywhere at anytime?🧐

[turbid fossil]

There is, people just dont do it

You can join up randoms for nexus missions, but people just dont do it. Or you can meet people in the wild and party up or whatever, but the chance is astronomically (see what I did there) low

[gloomy hazel]

I wish it was possible to extract laylaps's brain and put it in other sentinels like triangle sentinel, walker,void crab, mini void crab, corrupted sentinels..

And also the bigger robots like walker and crab could be piloted

So they would be like an exocraft

That would be super cool indeed.

[empty jetty]

I'd like some sort of ingame mailing system between friends.

[gloomy hazel]

Id like normal/survival to be separated from creative or survival separated ruins the whole point of grouping up with most people in nexus missions ect. if there over here playing with ez options and you have challenging ones it will actually be a game…

[marsh grail]

ARMADAS

[turbid fossil]

??

[toxic slate]

why do you care how easy or hard other people's difficulty options are set to? it's not a competition, multiplayer in this game only really exists to allow people to play together and have fun

[gloomy hazel]

They should add starship manufacturers that can build starships and freightors to spec so we don't have to tirelessly hunt something specific down :3

Give us customization options pwease :3

Or make craftable starships/freightors a thing : D

[white wing]

If you could only use parts from ships you had scrapped, and only at the highest quality level you'd scrapped them at, then ship hunting would still be a thing, but you wouldn't need to find that needle-in-a-needle-stack perfect s-class ship with all the right parts in the right colour.

[exotic dock]

If you could make water come out of the terrain manipulator, it could be very useful for builds.

[marsh temple]

Suggestion: Search Function to help you find the name of a planet

[oblique smelt]

Would like glyphs under each planet in dicoveries tab

[boreal garden]

id love a way to sort through my bases in the teleporter; it takes a while to search for a specific base out of the dozens of farms/other random bases i have

[opal hazel]

It'd be nice to be able to select an amount of item you want to craft. Like if I wanted to for some reason craft 100 metal plates I could just enter in the quantity. I play on console so idk if this is on PC or not.

[turbid fossil]

It sort of is, but you have to tap the button the amount you want to craft so its useless

[opal hazel]

I crafted a 1000 metal plates 🥲

[wide root]

It would be nice to have a function to check and repair save files or something. Got to a point in expedition where it crashes every time I try to load a save

[pastel minnow]

I wanted this for inventories ever since I started playing

[marsh temple]

would be nice 🙂

[turbid fossil]

You cant always "just hit repair and it fixes itself". Software is way too complicated and the possible causes too numerous for that, head over to #nms-questions to get advice on how to fix the error

[ruby aspen]

ok hear me out:
Making the faction system actually do something

revolutionary, eh?

[turbid fossil]

Like what

[ruby aspen]

idk, something like a questline, or a reward system with exclusive tech/items, more complex missions with short story lines stuff like that

[pastel minnow]

How about if you're in negative standing with a race, you don't hire them to work for you, can't buy their ships or frigates, can't trade with them, in other systems they tolerate your presence but in their own systems they attack you on sight, you dont have access to their space station either if it gets bad enough.

That's just logical ideas for the consequences, dunno what the positives would be tho

[wise heart]

Mhm. And before anyone says "But that would be so annoying". Yeah. Thats why you would keep your standing up 😅

[pastel minnow]

Though before Outlaws, I remember fantasizing about a system to restore standing with a race by talking to Polo about it and going on a long quest where you do something so awesome for the race they themselves struggled with like a mini-expedition that they're forced to change their minds about you.

... And then Outlaws happened and the mechanic was just "Get item. Press button. Done."

[pastel minnow]

Oh yeah you'd have to really pay attention to what system you were traveling to, but there should be some real attractive rewards for having a race hate you too

[pastel minnow]

I guess maybe new possibilities open up in pirate systems?
It really feels like pirates should have their own 3 factions so sometimes if it's an attack from a race you have low standing with, but they're pirates, then they'll let you off easy. Or you could join them in freighter assaults.

[vale schooner]

man I d love to see ship customization in the future

I have a solar ship that is absolutely perfect, except his colors (red white with green foils) and I hate red so much

[turbid fossil]

!hg

[misty iris]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[vale schooner]

?

[oblique smelt]

Thats a link to site where you can send all the feedback and suggestions to hello games, the game creators

[vale schooner]

ohhh I thought it was only for bugs

thx

[crystal bane]

Not having access to their space station would make it difficult to get your standing back up wouldn't it?

[turbid fossil]

You can always talk to them, defend their freighters or offer them gifts

[pastel minnow]

Imo you shouldn't need to go to a space station just to reset it with the press of a button. Like I said, it would be much more interesting if you went on a quest to reset it or something

[crystal bane]

It would be pretty hard to do that if they always attacked you though

[turbid fossil]

Well, get fked for ruining your rep

[crystal bane]

Ik. But aren't most quests available from the quest guy on the space stations?

[turbid fossil]

Stations missions can only be obtained from space stations, yes

Outlaw station missions dont touch on reputation

[pastel minnow]

I wrote earlier that it could be like something you start on the anomaly.
And I really can't see it being something as simple as a space station mission where you just do one thing, imo it should be something like a mini expedition. Something actually meaningful to reset really negative standing back to neutral.

[turbid fossil]

Something like slapping on a forged passport? XD

[pastel minnow]

In my experience, you lose standing with the race that gives you the very same pirate mission for whatever reason

[turbid fossil]

Because thats literally what the item does

[turbid fossil]

Nah thats just the race you attack, outlaws have nothing to do with their race, thats why they are outlaws

[pastel minnow]

I really don't like the passport thing.
It just... feels like there's missing gameplay between you having negative standing to neutral. You just get an item, press a button and that's it. I really think it could be much more interesting than that.

[turbid fossil]

It could yeah... The passport is weird. But I dont get why people bring down their rep voluntarily in the first place

[pastel minnow]

Dunno, I just don't pay attention to it at all since it doesn't really affect anything currently

[crystal bane]

Perhaps they should use a wanted system that depletes over time. Or even depletes when you complete tasks.

[turbid fossil]

There are so many ways around this so its either pointless, or makes it so you dont have a safe place at all

You can hide on the anomaly, in your base, any outlaw system, your freighter

[gloomy hazel]

Imagine being able to use the sentinel beacon thingy to transform pirate systems into normal ones

[crystal bane]

The main thing is that you shouldn't be able to enter a space station while being attacked by sentinels. Being able to escape in the anomaly however kinda makes sense.

[sly nymph]

It's super cool they're doing sentinel stuff and expanding the lore of the game to explain some things glass/korvax/atlantid-wise, but I really wanna see kore lore for the living ships, tbh. (And also kinda really, really want some living ship themed exosuit appearance mods. Like no joke, I would be so incredibly happy with a living backpack)

Also, it would be cool to have a little more freedom with color options customization-wise

And I think one thing that would make the game a lot more fun would be to give the nexus procedural quests, i.e. a quest would entail a beginning segment, a couple middle segments, and an end segment that reflected the actions you took/decisions you made in the previous middle sections.

It would be hella work, but oh my god would I love some longer, more in-depth nexus missions.

"Go put the laundry out for polo and nada" gets a little tiresome after a while and when you run out of story quests, well, there's truly not much to do anymore

[dry axle]

Personal goal is to be as hated as possible by all races and factions.

[dense ruin]

Maybe add micro transactions for quicksilver?

[vast wave]

How about no

[dense ruin]

It’s optional Yk what I mean

Like if you want to do missions you can but I wish you could just buy things you like it would be so cool and easy and it would make the company more money to put more into the game’s development

:3

[turbid fossil]

HG makes plenty money

Microtransactions always bring controversy, and NMS certainly doesnt need drama around it

[dense ruin]

True ig

[turbid fossil]

The reason it takes HG "so long" for updates - although their speed has been insane this year - is because they are a small team, not because they lack money

[dense ruin]

Ahh I’m dumb😵‍💫😵‍💫

Sowwy

[turbid fossil]

No need to apologise.

[vale schooner]

Iirc HG is partly founded by Sony since some time already

[violet vortex]

Not founded by Sony unless you meant funded

HG is an independent developer

[turbid fossil]

They probably meant funded yeah lol

[vale schooner]

Ye funded sorry 😅

But that means they dont really need to care about money

[hot flame]

They got funded by Sony for launch - they aren’t funded by Sony for years now

That said, they are financially secure according to public records

[bright anchor]

Its a real shame we can't place a marker via the waypoints in the menu. Would really feel like I was mapping out a planet if I could easily revisit crashed freighters, sentinel pillars and similar things

[dry axle]

Just make a save point or a base computer there.

Ezpz

[bright anchor]

I guess but it feels like a workaround to an existing issue for me

[dry axle]

I mean, not reallym with a base computer you can warp there, and a save point marks it to travel back to.

[bright anchor]

Because then I can't rearrange my bases in the menu if I find something new

[dry axle]

Why wouldn't you be able to?

I'm confused.

[bright anchor]

In the teleport menu I mean

[dry axle]

I think it moves the most recent one to the first on the list. Idk, I've never paid too much attention to that ig. XD

I'm not tryina invalidate you. Just trying to understand. I've just never felt it an issue. Lol

[bright anchor]

Yeah it can be annoying because there no sorting with that menu

With the marking waypoints however half the system is already there, hello game really just need to add the ability mark each waypoint

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Waypoints

[dense ruin]

Female body types

I don’t like how it’s only male body types im sure many would at least agree

Idk

[turbid fossil]

All NPCs in NMS are genderless, in fact.

[dense ruin]

But they have male distinctions

[turbid fossil]

Like what.

[dense ruin]

Hmm YIUR are right all the things I say are seen as unisex features

Just wish my character had breasts like me :((

[turbid fossil]

I mean you can suggest it to HG I guess but dont get your hopes up

[dense ruin]

I just wish I could look like a girl Yk what I mean

[turbid fossil]

!hg

[misty iris]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[dense ruin]

Okie

[plucky crown]

I want

realistic saturn rings

[turbid fossil]

Define realistic

[dense ruin]

I love the dedication to the game you hsve :3 I wish I was that motivated

😫😫

[vale schooner]

sorry I thought they were still partially funded by Sony, my bad

glad to hear they have money tho

[pastel minnow]

They've been a thing for almost 6 years now 🤔

Visual variety for rings would be pretty nifty however

[turbid fossil]

Not sure what dedication you mean actually, I just asked for you to illustrate your idea

[pastel minnow]

Yeah that sounded kinda adversarial out of nowhere

Btw I know the PC version had an update when the Mac version released which renamed a lot of the files.
But I'm guessing that from now on, because of a different file system, the PC version will now always receive 7-8GB updates for small things while Mac gets 60MB worth of downloads?

Because ever since the Mac update, people on Steam have been complaining nonstop that they have to download 7-8GB for tiny changes, while Mac apparently doesn't have this issue

[vast wave]

I dont know how the architecutre on Mac works

But we can take a look at the structure of the files in Mac build on SteamDB

And it looks pretty much the same as on PCs

[pastel minnow]

Really odd.. I mean I don't mind the large downloads, I'm just trying to make sense of it.
Since there's a few people who report it's very small downloads while the majority say it's huge downloads

Also random thing, I noticed the game's website is using a different font now 👀

[vast wave]

Maybe HG will find a way to optimize the updates somehow

[oblique smelt]

Its still better than other game updating like apex on ps4. You need to have same amount of free space as game size to update it even if update is like 5GB.

[bright anchor]

Kinda wish we got missions to take photos of things, maybe a daily mission at the anomaly to give you something useful

[pastel minnow]

But there are missions where you have to take photos of things

[bright anchor]

Are there?

Either I've never come across them or done it ages ago

[pastel minnow]

Yep, either take a random picture of a world type, or a building or an animal

At least those are the types of photo missions I know of

[bright anchor]

They should expand on them, I'd like more subtle reasons to explore planets for me

[pastel minnow]

Oh yeah, space station missions could be done a lot better. Kanaju has a great video going over how they could be implemented much more interestingly to be unpredictable.

I find HG's patches interesting lately. It's just just stuff to address the expedition, but they also improved a lot of minor random hiccups lately and now there's a random patch coming that's addressing a bunch of memory stuff.
And this is just as the expedition is about to end.

[tough shadow]

any chance you can fix camera on player to see right above and right below without having to run 50m away to look either way from the spot you want ? and also on exocraft camera when going downhill? i only see the sky when going down... 3rd person camera always

[vast wave]

We can not fix it, becuase we are not the devs

!hg

[misty iris]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[vast wave]

Use this link to sumbit a suggestion / feedback to the devs

[tough shadow]

nice thanks 😄

[plucky crown]

no dude, I mean with moving asteroids inside the rings, the rings are just a png from my gameplay😭

[pastel minnow]

..No they're not? They have asteroids inside them.

[plucky crown]

I don't see them

[pastel minnow]

Have you tried going into a ring and check it out? It's most definitely not a flat png

[plucky crown]

I even tried going inside

just layers of images

[pastel minnow]

And no asteroids?

[plucky crown]

no asteroids.

[pastel minnow]

Odd, first time I'm hearing about this

[plucky crown]

idk

[turbid fossil]

To be fair, the rings themselves arent made of asteroids, so yeah it really does act like a png

[dense ruin]

They are made of astrooods that’s where I mine them

You just gotta get close enough

It’s scary asf in the rings

Like I might have specific phobia towards it

@turbid fossil

[turbid fossil]

?

[dense ruin]

Yeah that’s where I mine astroidd is planet rings

Idk if it’s a Xbox thing only tho

[turbid fossil]

Show how they are made of asteroids in a screenshot

[dense ruin]

Ohhhh in a screen shot well umm it’s physically impossible to actually see the asteroids unless you have high zoom cameras or are very close so they are being realistic

I used to study astronomy

That’s why I love this game

Did you know Jupiter actually has rings

Their just smaller than Saturns or Uranus

Also Neptune has rings aswell tho small like jupiters

[turbid fossil]

How do you mine them without seeing them? Sounds like bogus. Also yes I did know that.

[dense ruin]

Umm you get close to them?

???

[turbid fossil]

Then why cant you make a screenshot?

[dense ruin]

Want me to show you what the rings look like insude?

Because I can do that

[turbid fossil]

Thats what I asked yes

[dense ruin]

I can’t send them here

[turbid fossil]

#nms-media

[dense ruin]

Anyways case closed :3

To you

[dense ruin]

I regret saying this I was badly wrong @turbid fossil sorry

U Didn’t even know you could go into rings😫😭😭

[turbid fossil]

Lmao are you okay? What are you still going on about?

[wicked widget]

I think a compass/navigation marker for planets would be great, it can sometimes take a moment to find a planet im looking for.

[crimson portal]

so ive had this idea or rather a group of ideas that would be possibly be good for the game normally i wouldn't say anything but ive been thinking about this for about a week here are the few ideas...

Hunting- if you are a fan of scanning flora or fauna like i am you'll know that you can look at the discovery's tab and see that each creature has up to 3-4 details about it "active/not active common and so on, ground/air/underwater, diet". these things are given to you without you even looking at something the moment you land on a planet instead of that what about adding trails, grazing patches, nests, ect. obviously you can just scan the creature but for those hard to find creatures (which there are some) this could lead you on a trail/chase for it instead of moseying around the planet hoping you find one. companions could also be a thing where some can sniff tracks that you wouldnt see on scan or pin a creature down for scanning incase its skittish

Fishing- fish in nms are practically useless just something to look at. fishing would take time out of grinding and have something todo if you are late game and bored it can be something for treasures or just putting caught fish in a aquarium nothing huge just a simple thing

Reviving an Abandoned Space Station- its pretty simple just a few missions to revive it and now you have a place to dock your ships, and you can possible add a few rooms like the freighter, something for your friends to meet up or traders to stop on by

[turbid fossil]

Try going into first Person and using the ship hologram

[lament anvil]

It would be cool for Appearance Modifier to be expanded even more, like i would love to only have one hand be an autophage's and the other one be a normal hand

[turbid fossil]

Fish provide ingredients for cooking, they are not useless

[crimson portal]

true

[vale pier]

I do really like the idea of some sort of aquatic ‘companion’ system where you can stick em in aquariums fishing as a mechanic would be pretty fun! (also I’ve been wanting fishing/lakehouse themed base parts anyway lol)

[turbid fossil]

You played too much Subnautica xd

[fallen hawk]

no such thing, I say

[turbid fossil]

Wise words indeed

[vale schooner]

I agree, there are rings of asteroids

[wicked widget]

Oh i forgot about that

[dense ruin]

Stop shooting down peoples ideas

[ruby aspen]

but cooking is useless

[oblique smelt]

Food products give boosts and they are a source of income

[ruby aspen]

i know i know, but not enough to be worth it, similarly to settlements

they're just not involved enough in the gameplay loop

[oblique smelt]

Up to 200k per one. It can be good if you have animal farms for ingredients

Stack is 50 so 10 mil per stack

Its not the best mechanic but far from useless

[pastel minnow]

The only purpose cooking has is feeding it to your living frigates to permanently change their stats.
And each living frigate has a different appetite so they all react differently to different food

[turbid fossil]

Cooking can be used to change LF stats, to earn nanites, units, or temporary suit boosts. Far from useless.

[pastel minnow]

Yeah I know but most of those feel like they don't really have a specific purpose, you know?
The LF feeding is something that's an actively required mechanic to change how they work at least.

I noticed recently that most game loops in NMS that end with "so you get nanites/units" kinda remove excitement for me. Cause there's so many ways to do that very same thing already

[turbid fossil]

Sounds like a you problem, you know?

[bright anchor]

Cooking does feel very underutilised to be fair especially when there's; bars on space stations and settlements really feels like the one place you'd want to buy them

Also a lack of any food models for actually building restaurants yourself, unless I'm missing something

The only unique thing they seem to do is change living Freighters which seems like the last thing appropriate for cooking

[pastel minnow]

Well, yes. What's your point?

[bright anchor]

At an extreme end I'd be cool with a hunger bar being added to the game

Or at least vary the food effects for now. As well as adding role play stuff like food models and being able to purchase them

[pastel minnow]

I'd be down for that. The game has difficulty options now and it could be added to that.
I still feel like it's difficulty options are very underutilized

[turbid fossil]

Point being, you not liking X doesnt automatically mean it needs a rework. Its impossible to satisfy everyone. Thats all I will say on this matter.

[pastel minnow]

I didn't say it needed a rework, though I wouldn't be opposed to it for some cases

[bright anchor]

The whole implementation of food does feel unfinished to me personally and I'd say it needs another pass

[pastel minnow]

Interceptor was a nice surprise because it introduced stuff to do that didn't just end in units or nanites again, but instead it revolved around sentinel ships and their own unique resources.
That's what made me realize why I wasn't as excited for previous content, cause the end point is always basically the same

[pastel minnow]

Yeah it's weird how the longer you play the game, the more unfinished a bunch of stuff feels, but initially it's really cool to see 😅

[bright anchor]

I think someone said on the reddit but no Man's Sky feels complete now but what it needs is every update having a second pass

Settlements need it hard but it kinda feeds back into the food thing and having bars being usable buildings

At least with settlements so far I can glitch to be able to build within it and make it look like a proper city with NPC's

[pastel minnow]

I think HG has been doing exactly that since 2022.
They stopped the era of "new useless shallow features" and a lot of their latest updates have been about overhauling and expanding existing content

Frontiers was the last update to add something new like settlements but without any real purpose or depth.
Honestly, if they overhauled it to be like Startopia's NPC management, I'd be over the moon.

[bright anchor]

I hope at some point they expand upon the freighter fight too, I know its literally just been added but it feels a bit sad now that it's tied to sentinel ships

[pastel minnow]

Actually the sentinel freighter has been in the game since launch, but up until Interceptor, you couldn't destroy it

I remember thinking how Sentinel was a missed opportunity to make it destructible.
Also with Outlaws, because it was space combat themed.. and also with Endurance because it was freighter themed lol

[gloomy hazel]

I hope they add a chef npc to the space station trading post settlemnts and minor settlements.

It would be cool depending on what the planet was like what food it would sell

[bright anchor]

Maybe even having a mechanic where you get to stock your settlement bar

Similar to how you feed the living freighters now

[gloomy hazel]

differnt foods to change productivity costs and happyness

eg. Pilgrims tonic(sounds like achohol) Lowers productivity but increased happyness

[bright anchor]

That would be cool

[gloomy hazel]

also the holographic map in the planetary scanner would be cool to change depending on the system your in to show the planets

[pastel minnow]

Imagine Sean tweeting an emoji on a Tuesday just as the expedition concludes and we get another update the day after.

[oblique smelt]

Or some update without expedition but with twitch drops

[dense ruin]

Haha you block my message well people like this need to stop idc if I’m cussing I’m tired of him acting like he’s a hello games staff acting like he knows everything

Dude didn’t know the rings were real

Thought they were a picture please everyone don’t listen to him he’s sad asf for ruining things for others

If you have an idea just say it don’t let this bozo tell you from right or wrong

He just sad he didn’t know the rings were real

[dense ruin]

Dude stop seriously

Your behavior is disgusting

Let people have their ideas instead of pooping straight on them

[soft garden]

That's how discussions work. People talk about ideas and often shoot them down.
On an on-topic note, I would also love fishing in the game, just because. But I'd settle for just decorative fishing poles, or something that could be made to look close.

[violet vortex]

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[violet vortex]

The pinned reminder above applies to you too. "Sounds like a you problem" isn't constructive feedback. So let's abstain from that.

[dense ruin]

Sorry…

I just like respect

Meow

[dense ruin]

Hey!! I tried to friend you but you no respond?

☹️☹️

Kitty wanna be friends with you :3

I want more no man’s sky friends that actually understand the game

I’m still learning and I’m trying to find a teacher in short

[turbid fossil]

If you say so.

[violet vortex]

Let's be mindful of the purpose of this channel per the top pin. If you need to find other players, you can check #nms-lfg-or-trades, as well as our voice channels when people are on. For gameplay questions, don't hesitate to ask in #nms-questions.

[crisp breach]

Tbh I think we need a living freighter because we have a living ship a living frigate and a living gun (alien gun) so why not a living freighter

[bright anchor]

I feel like it's coming eventually

I was thinking It'd be cool to have the basic idea be a massing space Whale that's eaten a normal freighter

[bright anchor]

I hope they add more exotic trophies to the game one day, it was the most fun I'd had in like 100 hours finding them all

[pastel minnow]

Everyone talks about a living freighter, everyone talks about owning space stations, but not once have I ever heard about owning s living space station 👀

[vale schooner]

omg living stations would be insane

[grizzled plover]

The life support bar is already a hunger bar as far as functionality goes, it would be nice if food was simply expanded upon to refill more of it compared to just oxygen, and gave buffs that actually matter and make sense

[lavish swan]

I hope this is the right place, no idea where to put this. I would love if caves would be expanded upon? It would be so awesome for them to have more life and variety in them, maybe different cave biomes or something. I'm sure someone has probably mentioned this but I love the caves so much and it would be so much fun to have more variety in them. Maybe cave specific life, water biomes etc

[wise heart]

Yes. They are pretty but really only have 1 useful thing: cobalt, and that can be mined from deposits too. Sure there is pearls and relics though they are only useful in very early game. And for the life yeah they do have creatures but they are really rare. Its also really hard to find a big cave too, I know it might be hard but it would be nice if caves could be deeper and larger. There exists "subterranean hazard" voice lines, might as well put them to use. So yeah, it would be nice if they were made into a gameplay section unlike now where they are just the surface but hole shaped and prettier

[bright anchor]

You are correct which is why I said at an extreme end tbf however I wouldn't being opposed to a second hunger bar to toggle on and off

[grave bone]

I feel the ships in the game could use some sort of overhaul I am gonna give some examples
-Add more variety to colors but also colour combinations cause right now the colors are a bit bland and are almost always the same I'm talking just adding hundreds of new colours!!
-Add some sort of pattern variation on like the wings for example, give every part of a ship some differnt patterns that are randomised on every ship you encounter
-Buff haulers, they are just not useful right now I was thinking of maybe makin them even bulkier but let them have a interior kinda like a mink space cargo truck or something
-Give explorers some new perks because they could use so much more
These are some of my ideas. If u have more you would like to add send em in here so we could hopefully see this happen!!!!!!

[craggy trench]

Probably been said here multiple times but would be so cool to see planets that have advanced civilizations with large cities or space hubs on the planets. Very hard to do assuming there would be randomly generated npcs in them but still a cool idea. I find it kind of boring that all the planets are just a jungle of animals and wildlife with the occasional trading ports or whatever they're called. Or have they added things like that already? I havent played in a couple months.

[dense ruin]

I feel like there should be a way to modify speed

Put a stronger engine in there and it goes 500 planetary speed and like 4,000 space speed

[bright anchor]

Its kinda crazy that we've never got Decals for the English alphabet

[ripe gyro]

Dear Mr. Murphy,

I hope this letter finds you in good health and high spirits. I am writing to you today as an ardent admirer and dedicated player of the prodigious universe you have crafted in the form of No Man’s Sky. Permit me to express my utmost respect and admiration for the visionary endeavors of Hello Games, which have captivated the imaginations of millions, myself included.

However, it is with a sense of duty and concern that I bring forth an issue that has hindered my immersive experience within this vast celestial tapestry. While venturing closer to the center of Euclid, a remarkable discovery in itself, I have observed that numerous bases appear weathered and entrenched in the passage of time, as if they have witnessed a millennium of existence. Regrettably, this phenomenon impedes my access to these captivating structures, as encroaching earth obstructs their entrances, rendering them inaccessible. Despite my best attempts at terrain manipulation, I am unable to circumvent this unforeseen obstacle.

In the spirit of constructive feedback, I implore you, Mr. Murphy, to consider addressing this predicament with the gravity it deserves. By rectifying this issue, you would not only enhance the immersive qualities of the game but also reinforce the sense of unity and camaraderie that the No Man’s Sky community holds dear. Your relentless pursuit of excellence, coupled with the unwavering dedication of the talented Hello Games team, assures me that this matter shall be taken into serious consideration.

Thank you for your attention and for fostering a gaming experience that continues to inspire countless adventurers to embark on extraordinary journeys. I remain eagerly anticipating the future evolution of No Man’s Sky, under your visionary stewardship.

Yours sincerely,
Mr Macintosh

[vast wave]

Mr Murphy? Who are you reffering to?

If you mean Sean then his last name is Murray

[eager marten]

Would love to see the option to enable a more advanced flight model for those who are used to a more simulated experience, such as being able to vertically climb and descend while ship is level to a surface, ability to straff side to side, removal of space brakes such that if your are travelling in one direction and you turn your ship, your trajectory does not change unless you add thrust in a different direction, or hit a manual space brake that can automatically counter your current trajectory to stop your ship, as well as a trajectory indicator. It would also be nice to be able to manually take off and land your ship on planets, I know this may not be attainable for space stations and capital ships, but at least being able to do this on planets would be nice. Also manual control of landing gear and low flight.

Bullet Summary of features that would be nice in paragraph above.
-Vertical Ascent/Descent relative to a leval surface or plane and side to side movement
-No space brake unless engaged
-Continuous Trajectory in space unless altered by auto spacebrake or different thrust vector
-Trajectory Indicator
-Low flight
-Manual control of landing gear
-Manual landing and takeoff (on planet or wherever possible)
-Ability to switch between current and an advance flight model as described
-Hover in place
-HOTAS/HOSAS support
-Being able to apply the boost while straffing or ascent/descent relative to surface/plane like you can when going forward

I know there are mods that can somewhat attain this but it would really be nice to have these features baked in natively as this could allow for awesome races and pvp/pve combat, plus I feel it would pull a lot of players in from star citizen and elite into no mans sky because unfortunately those two games cannot do what this game can in terms of exploration and base building (which is why I LOVE no mans sky)

[crisp breach]

Tbh that would be amazing

Especially with the override thing

[oblique smelt]

Nms is a casual exploration game. And it will stay that way imo. I doubt the features for more simulated experiance will ever come to the game.
You can already do low flight
Interceptors can hover in place

[golden cobalt]

so basically, bringing ED's into NMS - NMS has always been about a more arcadey experience

[inland sage]

Eddie.

Eddy?

[pastel minnow]

The game has difficulty settings. I don't understand why they wouldn't expand on it beyond "less-more" options.

Whenever I see someone dismiss an idea because they or other people wouldn't like it, I always wonder.. Why can't we just have both?
There'd difficulty options HG could expand on.

[wise heart]

Adding custom features for difficulty toggles seems like too much effect I dunno

At least it wouldn't pay off

[oblique smelt]

From begining hg had nms as casual experiance and imo hg will stick to their vision of the game.

[pastel minnow]

Yet we have survival mode and options to make the game harder, along with 3 combat updates now.
I think NMS has a focus on casual experience, not exclusive to it

[hot flame]

All the difficulty settings do is change numbers a bit - not completely overhaul flight mechanics

[pastel minnow]

Yeah, I can't help but want the difficulty options to be more involved.
Even after Waypoint making a big deal about survival mode being improved, it's still just normal mode but grindier.

I just keep hoping that survival mode might have unique mechanics or events to it somehow, something that lets you know you're actually playing a different gamemode instead of normal

[vast wave]

Then you can kiss crossplay between different modes goodbye

I feel like HG wants people to just play together whenever possible

[fallen hawk]

there are apparently like 64 color options for most ship types, it's just that those color options are all various flavors of red, yellow, green, blue, and white.

(exotics, or at least Royal ships, only have five and two metal colors)

[oblique smelt]

More color options would be a + tho. Some parts combinations exclude some colors.

[grave bone]

Yeah thats the problem imo, we just need way more colours, way more variety and way more combinations and parts that can be coloured!

[fallen hawk]

yeah. maybe HG can extend the list to 128 entries for standard ship colors in order to add more vibrant colors, as well as purple and black

give royals like 11 new colors and 2-6 new metal types, and add some extra color possibilities to living ships as well; while they do have blues, greens, yellows, and purples, none are particularly vibrant compared to red

[rare pollen]

ok hear me out: Different planets like planets made out of meat, planets that are broken into pieces, planets made out of rock crystals metal etc, gas giants

black holes actually need gravity right now they dont pull in starships, clans, able to build low orbit bases

[vast wave]

We have infested and exotic planets that would fit some of those descriptions

As for gas giants - how would you think gameplay would look like on a gas planet?

How to gather resources, how to navigate, what about animals, structures, etc

[rare pollen]

foggy but tiny pieces of land floating everywhere

animals mostly flying i think rescources could be anywhere like astroids in a belt gas giants disable navigation structures on the pieces of floating islands

[eager marten]

That's why I said it should be an option you can toggle.

[golden cobalt]

well - but i'm not just talking about a toggle - i'm talking about work put into features, that aren't going towards the principle ofthe game

[eager marten]

There are tons of people who want the features I listed and hotas support, otherwise there wouldn't be youtube videos on how to mod the flight model or how to mod hotas support

[eager marten]

what do you mean by" principle of the game" ?

it really wouldn't be that hard to implement the things I listed

people have already done a lot of it through modding

[golden cobalt]

being "arcadey"

[eager marten]

Where has that been said officially?

[golden cobalt]

is there a need to?

just look at how the game does things

just start off with the universe itself

no suns, no orbits, no astro physics

[eager marten]

just because you like the arcade feel doesn't mean everyone does that's why I suggest a toggle option. The flight model is just... horrible tbh

[golden cobalt]

that immediately tells me that it's a fantastic, an arcadey game, that cares little about realism

[eager marten]

OK lmao

[golden cobalt]

fair enough sure - i'm not saying i wouldn't like the changes you're thinking of - i'm just saying that most players, that i've known over the years, they accept that NMS is successfull because of what it is

[rare pollen]

the no suns thing i hate because i spent 10 radiant shards on my pulse drive trying to reach the sun in a system

[golden cobalt]

look i play ED - i know all about realism - but these are different games

[rare pollen]

yes

[eager marten]

I know they are different and it will never be as simulated but I mean can we at least get a little bit from ed/sc like vertical acention/decent and straffing ?

[golden cobalt]

sure

i think so

like

as long as those additions are made in a way that doesn't go against what they've done so far - i'm all for new stuff you know

[eager marten]

I mean it wouldn't, if you take off it can still affect the resources used for launch thrust, other than that I can't think of anything else it could affect really

[golden cobalt]

let's say you want to implement auto launch/docking.

[rare pollen]

yes please

[golden cobalt]

that's not just a simple toggle.

that's a whole new mechanic being created

[eager marten]

don't we already have that ?

[golden cobalt]

yes, but you don't have something to take that away

[eager marten]

wdym ?

[golden cobalt]

we'd need to go about ships, take the auto docking away, then give them a tech upgrade to get auto docking to work again, if a player wanted to have it

or vice versa.

[eager marten]

oh I'm not talking about for like capital ships or stations I know that would be difficult but let us at least land manually on planet surfaces

also there are mods that give any ship auto hover so idk why they can't do that for all ships besides sentinel ships :/

[golden cobalt]

i think that has to do with not making all ships the same you know?

[vast wave]

The way mods in question work is by modifying the files that hold the stats for starship flight model

[rare pollen]

then it wont be natural, and sentinels are higly advanced

[eager marten]

right

[vast wave]

Those files get loaded on the startup and you can't change them "on the fly"

So far all mods can accomplish is to use existing game files to change values on game's parameters

Can't really add new functionality like that

[eager marten]

I'm talking about somthing hello could fix I'm sure they could have an enable/disable a more advanced flight model.

[eager marten]

lol ok

[eager marten]

I'm sure they have better weapons and shields than your average ship

[golden cobalt]

they probably could yes - though i don't think there's enough people asking for some of these, otherwise i think we'd have gotten them already. like for example, manual landing on planet would probably not be difficult, but there's a lot of behaviors that are missing for that right now to work

[eager marten]

there are mods that do it HG could make the mechanics a little better, dog fighting is just awful and very boring in its current state. IMO

[eager marten]

It could be done there are mods that kind of do it like the low fly mod.

[vast wave]

And we just explained to you: all that mods do is tweak some numbers, that's it

More advanced mechanics can be only added by HG

So saying "there are mods that do that" is kinda invalid

[eager marten]

Yes that's what I'm saying, my whole thing was about the game development adding better flight

[vast wave]

Personally Im with BK here on this - HG can introduce new flight models to appeal to another crowd

[eager marten]

Well there are though so if they already have the capability to somewhat get there through turing things off, then HG can definitely change things.

[vast wave]

But on the other hand, if someone picks NMS as their game to play, they should know what they are getting into

[eager marten]

I play a plethora of space games nms isn't the "space game I pick" why can't HG change things ? Almost starting to sound like a star citizen player over here lol

[vast wave]

Of course they can, but maybe that particular change is not a part of their vision for their game?

[eager marten]

So what's thier vision ?

[vast wave]

For me it's exploring the wonderful yet wacky, beautiful yet taunting procedurally generated universe

[rare pollen]

but guys i think we should let the team rest because the next update is (unofficialy speculated) to be around the corner

[vast wave]

With a side dish of some story, combat, survival mechanics added on top of that

All these other aspects work around the exploration in a way that do not hinder it

[oblique smelt]

It always is "just around the corner"

[eager marten]

OK and we can't have a better flight model for the reason you listed why ?

how would that hinder it that literally makes no sense logically

[vast wave]

I never said we can't

I literally said: HG can introduce new flight models to appeal to another crowd of players, if they choose to do so

[eager marten]

Ok

my bad I misread

[vast wave]

I probably won't use it, because it's not my cup of tea, but the more options the better

[eager marten]

I mean I just feel like if an advanced flight model were a toggle option it would bring a lot more people in who play pc.

[vast wave]

Well we are like a month away from the anniversary of game's release

So it's safe to assume HG has some plans for that

[rare pollen]

mmm yea i can 99.9% say its going to be a major update

[vast wave]

But would those players stay for the other things the game has to offer?

[eager marten]

because oh God I can only wish and dream Star citizen or elite could do what nms does when it comes to exploring and base building

[vast wave]

If someone is looking for semi-realistic flight, will they stay for giant space jellyfish?

[eager marten]

hell yeah

[vast wave]

For transmuting metals from the ground to craft a living organism?

[eager marten]

star citizen promised space whales

we have yet to see the space whales

we want space whales in star citizen

so yeah a jelly fish in space ain't gonna phase anyone that's actually really badass

I think what players of elite and more so starcitizen are looking for is a space game that can do what no mans sky does in terms of exploration base building, actual creatures and alien danger , but with a good flight model, so if they made it much better I think it would suck a lot of people from star citizen and maybe elite too.

[vast wave]

Sounds like a fair point

[eager marten]

I also wanna see some pressure put on cig so they will develop star citizen faster and more efficiently cause gaw dayum Chris roberts is a dingus and I wanna see that man sweat a lil

lmao

[violet vortex]

!hg @eager marten

[misty iris]

@eager marten You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[violet vortex]

I recommend submitting your suggestion to Hello Games' Zendesk system. Link above. And using the correct last name of Sean Murray, if you're trying to address him in your suggestions that is

[ripe gyro]

Oops😬

[rare pollen]

wormholes (alternative black holes) white holes (they rip your ship apart over time)

[ruby aspen]

being able to place down animals in enclosures would be real cool, like having a small zoo sections on my freighter

[hollow sedge]

A roadmap for the game would also be cool

[oblique smelt]

Sean, One more save slot please . Because 16.
16//16//16//16//kzzzzt

[pastel minnow]

I have the impression their roadmap is figured out up to 2-3 years, and they're making it up as they go.
But if it was public, people would get disappointed it keeps changing and we'd never have this arg thing going on

Also I find it curious that we're a month away from the game's anniversary and everyone is expecting a big update (myself included) but we're only at part 2 out if 4 with this arg

I thought a big update would part 4, the conclusion

[icy thunder]

plus not telling the public about plans gives them time to manuever in case something happens

[wicked patrol]

They learned their lesson about delays yeah lol

They don't have Sony twisting their arm to ship a product anymore so there's no need to risk upsetting people by delaying promised updates

[pastel minnow]

A really minor change I'd like for scans in space is for points of interest in space to appear at a random point in the system with a waypoint to them and then you'd pulse to them.. instead of pulsing first and then it literally spawns in front of your face whenever you decide to exit pulse.

Like yeah, in both cases the point of interest is spawning, but if it was a waypoint to a random location, it wouldn't break immersion as much as how it's currently set up imo

[quaint spindle]

We need endgame content

[visual cloak]

the whole game is an end game

[oblique smelt]

You create your own endgame content.

[toxic slate]

I think what we need is endgame gameplay mechanics

[ripe sequoia]

Maybe some story twist other than "existence is simulation, here comes the >Great Reset<" could make NMS more interesting and less depressive. It's hard to play virtual creation of an (invincible) machine cause by definition machines are made. No option to rebel.

[wicked patrol]

What would they look like? NMS isn't really a game built with an endgame in mind. It's a game where you're meant to get your fill of exploring and then go do something else for however many days, week, months or longer until you get the itch again

Combat doesn't have near enough complexity to make raiding pirate bases on land or in space feel satisfying, for example

The "game" is essentially the Artemis and Atlas paths, and most will get a good 20-40 or more hours from that assuming they spend some time exploring and fiddling with things they're introduced to

[toxic slate]

Every spoke of the gameplay wheel could have endgame mechanics; almost none do currently. For instance, trading. Some people, that's what they do in the game to make money. But no matter how many hours you put in, the basic mechanics of trading never change. What if you could instead get to a point where you could hire NPCs to handle hauling and trading? Maybe even add on some NPC miners? At that point, the endgame for you would look more like a management sim rather than sitting there buying and selling goods by yourself, or sitting there shooting rocks by yourself.

[wicked patrol]

But what's the point? Make units to spend units on things to make you more units? You need an actual purpose for any of these things

[toxic slate]

changing the mechanics, keeping things fresh, making the player feel like they've progressed to a higher tier instead of "what do I spend my 4 billion units on"

besides, many people are already asking for fleet battles, wanting to control a faction, etc. that plays right into the idea of endgame = controlling things at a higher organizational level

[wicked patrol]

That's not the kind of game NMS is trying to be

You'd have to do so much rewriting of the game. There's like... zero depth to any of the factions, freighters, etc. ALL of that would need radical changes and expansion before it'd make sense to add an end game merchant prince option or whatever

The development style of NMS post launch has largely been about adding things that are independent of other game systems or aren't part of a whole. Like, freighters are just handed to players within a few hours of beginning the game, for free, after a trivial fight against random pirates. Presumably because they wanted to onboard players to the exciting new content ASAP. But finally being able to afford a freighter of your own, or completing a lengthy mission chain that ends in obtaining one, could have been other possibilities

They did do that for living ships with Starbirth

[rotund flare]

Can we have freighter OR frigate piloting?

[vapid bolt]

That would require them to let the freighters and frigates move fluidly which I think would end up as a mess in this

[toxic slate]

I prefer to vocalize my wishes to HG and let them decide. The future and possibilities for the game are endless. It's up to them what to focus on.

[vapid bolt]

Maybe do some offical mod support and see what the community can create

[wicked patrol]

I mean yeah, shoot them a thing through zendesk. I just don't think it's a likely thing to happen

[vale schooner]

I do agree with this idea, slightly changing the game style depending on what you do can be very neat

And for what game nms aims to be i will take 1 example: Warframe released a roguelite expansion while being a mmo rpg 🤷

[inland sage]

Ooooo! Imagine settlements playing a big role in this.

[wicked patrol]

Settlements and freighters are honestly so underutilized

It'd be great if they'd expand on them. Both types of content are essentially just the player walking up and pushing a few buttons to get free loot a couple hours later

Though, honestly, if they just really embraced modding and opened the game up to modding as much as can be done feasibly, there's a solid chance modders would "solve" the problems for them. It's worked pretty well for Bethesda lol

[hot flame]

That would be nice. For PC only.

Sounds crappy to me

[wicked patrol]

That's always been the advantage of PC over other platforms

The downside is that you don't get one size fits all solutions to "will this game run/will it run well?" and all of the issues that come with it

[slow hinge]

@vale pier I disagree with your first point. I believe more choices in any given category increases competition in the market. I agree with your other points though, NMS is unique

[vale pier]

That’s fair, I phrased it poorly. competition absolutely does matter, just not in the way a lot of people think :).

I mean depending on platform and disposable income someone for sure might pick up another game over NMS. I was trying to say that outside of that, someone could easily own NMS and any other space games, like I plan to, so I don’t see it as a problem for NMS

[wicked patrol]

NMS is relatively unique. Other space games aren't as exploration focused. They're usually focused on dogfighting, trading, etc. Depending on how much of the marketing spiel actually makes it to market, Starfield might be the first game with enough feature overlap to be an actual competitor. But NMS is already approaching 7 years old so it's "finished" anyway. Sales always show an uptick, especially after new ports are released, but HG is probably not concerned heavily with selling lots of units anymore

Or put another way, Todd Howard would probably not be worried about people deciding to buy NMS instead of SF (again, assuming the marketing crap for SF will be remotely accurate to the finished product, which IMO is a big assumption)

[toxic slate]

the major tentpoles of NMS mentioned during launch by HG's marketing for the game were Exploration, Combat, Survival, and Trading. I think they have held true to that to varying degrees over the years. But everyone knows they can't compete with a game like Starfield who has a budget and team size that dwarfs what HG has. Ultimately it's a good thing for everyone as NMS obviously heavily influenced Starfield, and Starfield will push NMS improvements. But I don't agree with HG is probably not concerned heavily with selling lots of units anymore. Otherwise they wouldn't be spending time on new ports. They are burning through money developing a new game, so NMS is their main revenue source right now.

[wicked patrol]

They made their budget back and then some in the first month of launch

They have not had to worry about funds

They've been working so hard on NMS because they're not jackasses. And yeah, having additional revenue is also important

But they could have just taken the first several weeks of sales, done only bug fixes and "necessary" updates to NMS for a year or two, and just gone right into the next project

[pastel minnow]

I'm super curious about their new upcoming game.
All that's known is that it's not related to NMS but it's also extremely ambitious.
But somehow I don't think we'll get an annoucement about it this year seeing how they're focused so much on NMS right now

[wicked patrol]

I don't think they're as invested into NMS as people seem to think. Bugfixing and porting I'm sure consume a lot of work hours, but the content they're producing probably does not. I think, instead, that they learned from their mistakes with NMS and are refusing to make a formal announcement of the new project, or a release window, until they are positive that they will be able to deliver on the announced date and major features

I'd love to see a NMS 2 someday. Not necessarily the same setting, since I don't think there's really any need for that. But the same basic concepts. But if I were them and I wasn't already building an NMS 2, I honestly think I'd wait to see what Starfield does - Bethesda will inevitably mess something up (multiple things, knowing them) and both the way Bethesda addresses it and in particular the ways modders address it would likely be very informative

[pastel minnow]

But we got an official statement from Sean that they're aiming to make 2023 a bigger year than what 2022 was for NMS and that they're excited to show what they have planned.
There's been leaks of overhauled space stations and Interceptor kicked this 4 part ARG thing, which itself was quite a large update

[wicked patrol]

Maybe they're planning on spot welding things onto NMS until it turns into NMS 2 then? But NMS is always going to be held back if it has to remain playable on old machines and especially now the Switch's garbage hardware

I suppose they could just go "these updates aren't available if you aren't on a modern system lmao" but that'd be kinda odd

[pastel minnow]

Oh yeah, people would riot if that happened, but I still find it really strange how they have this engine capable of amazing things and instead, they're holding it back so they can port the game to other systems

And even then, I constantly hear from people how the game is unplayable on PS4, xbox and switch, and some Mac users are complaining that it's not able to launch on certain Mac types or something

[wicked patrol]

I think it's because their goal is to get as many people enjoying their game as they can. Also it makes them a lot of money, although I don't think Sean Murray or HG in general seem to be particularly profit-motivated

There's no secret in why Bethesda has ported Skyrim to everything but copying machines and refrigerators

[pastel minnow]

Yeah no kidding. Anyone who has the last-gen version of NMS can play the game on their new console for free.
And anyone who has a PC version of the game can download the Mac version for free. It's like they hate money lol

[hot flame]

There is already precedent for that. Old consoles don't have refraction and reflections, and Switch doesn't have multiplayer or settlements.

[pastel minnow]

Actually, I think old gen consoles don't have the new asteroid fields either? But I'm not sure

[oblique smelt]

They have but they are not as dense as on pc

[dim owl]

do you think they would ever put in player built space stations, i hate trying to build on land or under water.

would love to build my own little space base

[oblique smelt]

Player build space stations. Would work basicaly as immobilised freighter.
No sense in haveing them other than customizing and base building inside the station. It would not bring nothing new to the game. Imo.
Would be more intrested in building space station shops in freighter. So i would not have to fly in every time and check what they have

[vale schooner]

restoring abndoned stations, weelcoming merchants to have shops inside etc

providing them resources to feed the market

[dim owl]

i just think it would be cool to customize your own, maybe have a weird looking cube base or doughnut one

[oblique smelt]

Would be more excited about new freighter types ,look , rooms,building parts Like elevators. Space ball settlement is meh for me

But who knows. Maybe HG will break after all the weight of feedback

[dim owl]

HG? whats that?

[oblique smelt]

Hello games

[dim owl]

oh...

[oblique smelt]

The game creators

[dim owl]

now i just look stupid

[oblique smelt]

Nah.

[dim owl]

can you do everything in a freighter that you can in a normal base, like the weapon station and refinery?

[unreal dome]

random thought: portal addresses could be extended to 16 glyphs if devs will ever want to add ability to travel between galaxies as well as extend universes

[oblique smelt]

Yes. You can build stations for specialists there

[oblique smelt]

No need For me. I already have base in every galaxy

But it could be some kind of qol upgrade

[unreal dome]

but 12 glyphs are already enough for a while, since with current glyph system, theoretical max planets per system is 15 (with current max of 6, also remember that as first glyph is system's address, not planet address), theoretical max systems per region is 4096, and not every galaxy region is actually populated with stars, for example, corner and central regions like XXXX or XXXX

[icy thunder]

I hope to see more signs of civilization on planets or in space. Feels weird to see these massive economies pouring resources out but then you only find small buildings and encampments on planets

[fallen hawk]

cities would be cool but are largely infeasible, to my knowledge

[icy thunder]

not even cities, just like

an individual factory

just like spaces that look more like they're intended to do one thing, like a comm-tower with a large antenna

[fallen hawk]

factories are among the small buildings players can find

i won't contest that planetary buildings are certainly in need of some updating, though

[icy thunder]

it would be cool if they were like bigger and had signs that it was a factory

or like if transmission towers had more equipment and monitors

[wicked patrol]

It just loops back into severe lack of variety in PoI's and assets

I'm assuming it's a resources thing. For sure, large structures or groups of structures would be harder on weak hardware

But even if it wasn't... what's the point? Okay, add large planetary settlements. They'd be no different from space stations

There's not enough nuance in the baseline gameplay to really have a purpose to them

[pastel minnow]

Fun fact, if you start a playthrough with the tutorial turned off, it's impossible to build specialist terminals for your freighter until you build a planetary base first to unlock the freighter parts.

[wicked patrol]

Freighters in general aren't integrated well

I really think they should've done a starbirth type extended mission chain to get your first freighter. Maybe available after your progress Expanding the Base far enough that you can make further progress on the Artemis path? Or alternatively, maybe the final step of Base Computer Archives takes you to a freighter wreck and that starts the process

[toxic slate]

I still can't believe they put so much effort into building out fully traversable frigate ships, of different types, and then basically no gameplay other than walking around to repair some panels. always seemed kind of a big waste of dev time, they should really do something more meaningful with them

[unreal dome]

like customization, building, or even piloting. imagine starting your own expedition on one of these

but this may end up in unnecessary complexity that will exist only as "look what we can do" type of thing

on the other hand, dropping onto planet from freighter/frigate in minotaur/any other exocraft would be neat

[wicked patrol]

It's a very common dev style for "casual games" unfortunately

Settlements are another good example. Tons of potential, but the actual implementation has no nuance or depth

[pastel minnow]

I'm about to drop the most insane request this community has ever seen;
Rain that looks like it's falling down from the sky when you're looking straight up, like this for example

[worn idol]

no mans sky rain update

patch notes:

-rain

[sly schooner]

it’ll be a cool idea to add AI intelligence into the npc’s, more weathers even natural disasters that some are unique for planets, exiting and entering your spaceship in space to float around to derbies. planets with buildings or small civilizations u can find that has a market but some will be abandoned, more customization and more details for planets so it looks more full

[rapid widget]

Natural disasters like blizzards or wildfires would be good

[hushed bobcat]

I had kinda forgotten about the arg Sean mentioned, anything regarding it you guys can share?

[vast wave]

Maybe check the #nms-arg-2023 channel

[pastel minnow]

I don't really consider it an arg, mostly cause Sean said "arg clues"
But also, it's kinda bare-bones compared to what AR was

All you have right now is binary text in game, you translate it to get a phrase.. And that's it.

Now we're just waiting for part 3 and I'm kinda expecting more of the same, it's just not very exciting to me, but I am just looking forward to what it's building up to

[unreal dome]

hear me out: "building limits" difficulty setting, to change limits of base size and what stuff you can build, to allow or disallow building freighter parts on ground and ground parts on freighter without glitches or mods

[quasi hinge]

more robot/ sentinal pets

[toxic adder]

God if I could drop down from the freighter in a minotaur would be fucking amazing

[uneven sail]

Yeah like I kinda want a small arachnid corrupted sentinel pet, honestly kind of a missed opportunity

[soft garden]

Someone was trying that a month or so ago. Not certain if they succeeded or not.

[pastel minnow]

I saw footage of it, it's possible but dunno how

[jagged carbon]

Personally I think you should consider, making Freighter combat possible, randomly when your freighter is in the same system as you, a pirate freighter will start attacking your freighter. You have to go up to your freighter and destroy the waves of pirate ships coming out of the pirate freighter. After all the pirate ships are destroyed, you have to blow up the freighter. Once that is completed, a new type of fleet spacecraft needs to be used for repairs of your freighter. What do you think?

Of course your combat frigates and squadron will help out with the defense. Where I also think another feature could be added of marking certain targets, so that all of your combat frigates and squadron pilots can focus on something else whilst you destroy some other target.

The Rewards for successfully defending your capital ship would contain smuggled contraband from blowing up the pirate ships and freighter. Salvaged frigate modules being a guaranteed drop of at least one when destroying the cargo barrels on the pirate freighter. Any combat frigate involved with the defence will also rank up their class.You can also get standing for whatever system you are currently in.

This feature will be a stretch, however, I believe this would also increase quality of the game

Addition of a new feature, Freighter squadrons. You and up to 3 friends can create a new Freighter fleet consisting of all of your freighters coming in as one unit if summoned as a squadron through the drop down menu. The person who owns the freighter squadron makes their freighter the main base, meaning that your friends freighters will not load their bases to reduce lag. This would just look awesome and could also add more possibilities for freighter combat, maybe making the pirate freighter battles larger with more rewards.

I dunno that's all I could think of but I do think it sounds epic.

[vale schooner]

I thought about this too, I really want my freighter to attack just like the NPC freigthers do

and maybe you would have to recruit NPCs (like your escort squadron) to operate each turret, or operate one yourself !

also, I badly want to be able to grow plants I would gather from planets

[drifting radish]

Not sure if this would be possible in nms but maybe for a future title:

• no loading screens but instead everything is one world and you can travel between galaxies and star systems
• More variation is star systems (pulsars, gas giants nebulas although not realistic but they make atmosphete better, rotation of blanets, orbits)
• More varied space station (not the same landing platform everytime, space stations built into asteroids, etc more varied interiors)
• ability to built own spacestation and spacewalk maybe even walk inside ships and enter them

[icy thunder]

^

Imagine walking around in your own station orbiting around a gas giant

[wicked patrol]

Planets rotating around the star was in the game originally but was removed because playtesters kept getting confused

[uneven sail]

i'd be pretty confused but it's a part of the realism

[wicked patrol]

NMS isn't much of a sim so I don't really think it's important to have

[pastel minnow]

People tend to bring this up like it's still relevant.. But NMS back then didnt have a way to set waypoints, set bases or document a location in any way at all.
We can do that now so I'd be very confused if people would still be confused

[wicked patrol]

That's fair. NMS has pretty weak UX in general though

I don't know if I'd want to rely so heavily on it 😛

[gloomy hazel]

Honestly I want exotic Frieghters like bigger than the dreadnaught, and full glass Pane windows for Frieghter Builds, as for Frieghters it would also be cool to be able to have multiple Frieghters appear in one system from other players... Like they can have specific systems made that are all Perfect paradise planet systems. Call them Hub Systems. And we can all bring our frieghters. It can be the Monaco of NMS all our space Yatchts

[quasi pike]

specifically more non-expedition robotic fauna than the beloved mechanoceries. while they’re beautiful on their own, more diverse mechanical fauna planets with more than two species of similar species would be such a sight to behold.

[mortal quartz]

NMS needs deeper and more fleshed out ponds lakes and oceans, should allow us to catch fish, have more ocean caves, and we should also get more water worlds. I want a few subnautica style worlds

[gloomy hazel]

Landing on water worlds is such a pain, maybe a new type of Water Strider ship that can land either on or underwater would be helpful to wrap into an aquatic update. An aquatic update isn't the top of my wishlist, but if it's happening, a ship like this would be great.

[mortal quartz]

Give other ships an upgrade to be able to land hovering above water maybe

[crystal bane]

I know this has been suggested way too much times but, multi-freighter combat. Currently we have player-to-freighter combat, meaning the player can use their freighter against pirates and the player can attack trade/sentinel feighters by themselves. I suggest that we should be able to our summon freighter to aid us in battle against other freighters. I know currently your combat frigate warps to you to support you in fights, but I’ve watched way to much Star Wars and love the massive multi cruiser battles, and currently nms doesn’t have that. Your freighter would utilise its turrets to engage enemy ships, and enemy ships should be able to attack your ships as well. Now obvisously something has to be at stake, so your frighter would have a hull integrity bar, similar to sentinel ships, where it would decrease when taking enemy fire. When it reaches zero, there would be a huge explosion and your frighter and the items and crew inside would be destroyed. Your freighter and the items would be gone permanently, meaning you will need to get a new freighter. However your ship collection would remain intact. The enemy frighter would be destructible as well of course, giving plentiful rewards.

Now this might be difficult to add, since it might use quite a lot of performance for such large-scale battles, however I know the nms team have done great things before, such as running nms on switch, so I know they can find a way. This feature is probably my #1 suggestion for no mans sky, and I would almost play the game religiously if they added large scale freighter battles.

[wicked patrol]

Permanent loss would definitely not be a thing in a game like this

The problem I have with space combat focus is there's zero depth to it. I think you'd have to rework starship combat first to lay the groundwork. But I don't see that happening because that would probably make it too complicated for "casual" players - managing mount sizes, system power balancing, and so on that you'd get from arcade-style games like everspace. It also couldn't be a difficulty option or similar, because the game has to be essentially the same for everyone for multiplayer to work

I think expecting interesting or nuanced combat from NMS is just setting yourself up for disappointment. I don't see them making such a dramatic shift in design

[pastel minnow]

Combat would feel amazing if the player was just faster.
Movement is designed around exploration which is fine, but enemies are also designed around the slow movement and everything feels like it's in slow motion

[icy onyx]

Deep Sea!

[quasi pike]

real! swimming robots could have some heavy lore implications if you know you know

[icy onyx]

Deep sea pressure must also be implemented.
If you don't have a deep-sea submarine, Dead!

[gloomy hazel]

a cool thing that they should add: Ifg you have farms on differnt planets or even differnt systems; hire NPCs to cart it to a single location (can set with beacons or a new item for this), they take a cut of profits for a commisstion

[trail anchor]

I've been on so many water planets with barely any land this would help

[mortal quartz]

It would

[trail anchor]

🙂

[mortal quartz]

Give us a real reason to use the submarine exocraft

[trail anchor]

There is none

[high bobcat]

bounce on the water because funny

[hollow jasper]

The one and only thing I truly want is to customize our starships. I’m talking mainly about being able to change the colors and such, plus perhaps how the layout looks in the cockpit (I generally fly in 3rd Person mode, but I’m sure there’s people who prefer it in 1st). But it would also be cool that when you add new technology to your ship, such as a better hyperdrive or new weaponry, then we can at least see that upgrade (depending on the upgrade of course). Perhaps even some small decorations to the hull, like lights, small wings, maybe holiday exclusive things, and whatnot.
Plus some more items to decorate the inside of the cockpit, it’d be funny if there were some of those rear view mirror dangling things lol

[high bobcat]

we need to have npcs that can sometimes appear in bases and wander around for some time
just so they don't feel as empty
sorta like how npcs can land on your landing pads
but rather than just standing by their ships and then leaving, they can actually walk around the build

[uneven sail]

Maybe not since some people enjoy solitude, maybe it could be a toggle able

[wicked patrol]

Movement speed is okay. It'd be cool if movement mods could increase sprint speed though. Enemies are way too slow though yeah

[wicked patrol]

Yeah but most planets don't get much deeper than 100m or so, which is survivable (not recommended) for very well trained and equipped divers in the real world. And it's probably fair to assume the exosuit is a bit sturdier than real world scuba equipment...

[wicked patrol]

Makes dealing with abyssal horrors safer and it's usually faster than jetting around underwater "on foot". But yeah, with how empty oceans tend to be and how shallow most bodies of water are, there's not a lot of purpose to underwater anything

[pastel minnow]

Yeah enemies are too slow because I guess that's a way to balance out the player being slow (except the walker, holy sweet donut holes that boy needs to be 5 times slower when walking around.)

But I think what makes combat meh is also the little things like lack of screen shake, lack of animations, multitool viewmodels just being meh and are floating instead of being held in hands (in first person) not being able to sprint in all directions and worst of all.. arbitrary ambiguous cooldown between when the multitool is aimed and when it can fire. There's no indication for that for some reason nor do I think it should even exist. It drives me nuts lol

[wicked patrol]

What do you mean by cooldown?

[pastel minnow]

Like when you pull out your multitool or it's forcibly lowered, there's like a second you have to wait before you can pull it out or fire for no reason

[wicked patrol]

That's just an animation lock

[pastel minnow]

Well whatever it is, I dun like it.
In every other shooter, you switxh weapons, pull them out and you shoot them. In NMS there's that weird slow down where you have to wait a second before shooting registers after pulling the multitool out.
It just messes with my brain more than anything else regarding combat

Also, Sean hasn't been active on Twitter for 10 days now, I wonder if that means something 👀

[lost salmon]

I hate foot combat. I’m always getting flanked lol

[pastel minnow]

And I hate ship combat much more lol

Mainly because the ships are like 50 times more agile and faster than your own ship.
Able to turn and rotate WAY faster than you.. you're just forced to stay completely still while they go around you and just exchange damage until you take them out.

[wise heart]

Yeah in ship combat you are literally a point which fights back at ships swirling around in 3d space. Moving is pointless because enemy ships have aimbot

I wish you could just dodge their attacks with logical movement

[daring iris]

sometimes i want to be able to use the rooms and tunnels used in the generated structures (observatories, depots, manufacturing facilities etc.) to build my base instead of the regular round and square rooms, because i think they look way better and they actually somewhat look like they belong there

[wicked patrol]

At that point you're basically asking for everspace lol

[wicked patrol]

In every other shooter, there is a delay as animations play lol

[pastel minnow]

Yeah but there's something just weird about how nms does it. I think it's the animations not being in sync with when you can fire or not

[wicked patrol]

Player animations in NMS are really rough

Like a step above developer graphics. They feel unfinished. But animating is really hard if you don't have a lot of experience with it and there's probably better things for them to spend their time on

[pastel minnow]

Yeah it's a shame. They are all serviceable but first person multitool animations are definitely unfinished.
Like one of the new sentinel multitools has an actual unfinished weapon reload animation

[wicked patrol]

Probably not possible to have procgen tools with this much variety and still have refined reload animations

Not every tool has a visible magazine or place where a magazine would go

[toxic slate]

Maybe you didn't mean it as dismissive of their talent, but that's the way it sounded. They have some very experienced industry vets working on the game, this is not their first rodeo. I also don't agree with your characterization of the animations as unfinished. Certainly they tend to release things fast and things aren't always as finessed or bugfree as anyone would like. And it's possible that their "A team" animators are working on their new game now instead of NMS. I think on the whole though NMS animations are pretty good considering the scope and budget of the game.

[wicked patrol]

The player character animations are very rudimentary and the tool animations even moreso. I respect quality animation work because I know how tricky it is, and I also handwave weak animations if they aren't relevant to gameplay for the same reasons. But the player character doesn't move in remotely lifelike ways. They are very robotic, and it sure feels like some of them are just missing a lot of "in between" frames that makes animations smoother and more lifelike

There are also very, very few animations for player characters and NPCs. They all have the same wiggling happy reaction, the same unhappy reaction, etc. Look at how wooden and awkward the sitting animation in a chair on space stations is

None of this matters for gameplay so I don't deduct points for it, as it were. But it's something I notice

[slim frost]

base building update

that would be so nice

the building blocks in the game now are a little bit boring and not much to do with them

[wicked patrol]

I'm sure there'll be more. Base building is definitely very popular with players

[reef dove]

What are opinions on planets having different regions for biomes? Sure we have oceans, but an area specifically for mountains or wide plains, caves under the mountains, or maybe swamps. A lot of the planets have one specific feature to them and that’s it. Like a planet that’s all mountains until you reach the ocean. I’d like to land on a lush planet and see mountains in the distance but still have rolling hills and plains that I could visit. Otherwise, once you’ve landed you’ve basically seen it all.

[viral ice]

Yea! I wish there were more diversity in planets. Like more variations of biomes in a particular planet. I also wish there were more animals to a planet. Maybe specific ones could soawn in unique biomes on the olanet! Thatd be cool

[reef dove]

Yeah, like not just flying, cave, water, and surface, but animals that only spawn in the mountains or in a swamp. Also a better representation of the map. It doesn’t have to be highly detailed but a map that showed what region or biome you were in, in relation to others would be nice.

[viral ice]

exactly! I also wish there were bigger creatures. Like Titan Worm sized creaturrees roaming around

[wicked patrol]

Planets that act more like planets would be really cool but probably substantially increase demands on procgen

[viral ice]

Tru

Its already complicated enoguh

[reef dove]

This is true and unfortunate.

[pastel minnow]

To add to what Pizzashark said, just look at the sentinel multitool reload animation. It's a perfect example of an unfinished animation.
The multitool stays absolutely still while the magazine hovers into the gun 'point A to point B' style

[pastel minnow]

What expedition? It was released in Interceptor and can be found on dissonant planets in the regular game mode

[toxic slate]

yeah sorry been a long day, i was getting the two dissonant releases mixed up

[pastel minnow]

I'm still waiting for the third one

[vale schooner]

I wish there was a separate option for TPS/FPS modes

I d like to have my starship in FPS, but my traveler in TPS

[wicked patrol]

? There is

Bring up the context menu and scroll over to the cogwheel. There's an option to switch POV in there

On foot, ship, and exocraft are all separate

Foot and exocraft default to third person while ship defaults to first person

[vale schooner]

well idk, when I switch it switches for everything

I had default FPS on everything at start, but I prefer TPS for traveler, but when changing traveler point of view it changes ship POV too

[gloomy hazel]

As a player, I would like to be able to set a preference standard that is automatically applied, so I do not have to constantly, manually change/apply it.

Should be not only for point of view, but for field of view. I want a wider field of view when on foot than when in a vehicle, or when in my ship (because their mobility/speed is greater, so window can be smaller without sacrificing awareness).

If they allow you to keybind that thing and rotate through presets, that would be GOLD.

But my real secret dream is to have the lateral menus made radial and accessible from mousing or single click, depending on the platform.

And for pity's sake, remove the timeout on the damn thing. I have died for having that thing disappear because I looked a little too long at something else without taking an action. (You know, monster trying to eat face, abyssal horror trapped me in a rapid touch game, etc).

[viral ice]

I REALLY wish that the Exocraft fps view was fixed, Its so difficult and annoying controlling them in first person!

[gloomy hazel]

I wish we had a notepade in the game. That gave us access to glyphs. Then we could make our own notes and use the glyphs as reference. An extension to personal favorites for more every day use.

[viral ice]

Thatd be super useful

[gloomy hazel]

We'd also be able to meet up and swap/exchange/update each other... which would just be so damn cool for community that it sometimes makes me sad we cannot yet/already.

[viral ice]

Yea! Its super complicated finding specific ones from websites which arent always reliable

[gloomy hazel]

IKR?

[viral ice]

Like if your want a speific ship the only glyphs yoy cab find are from 5 uears ago!

[gloomy hazel]

I frequently follow portals to places that turn out to not be what they were said to be. I suspect a platform thing. If there were a way to translate across platforms with these codes... that would be the god tier funtionality/feature.

[viral ice]

Exactly!

[gloomy hazel]

basically spawn a combined dimension or set one to be cross platform and over time, we all learn where that is and that becomes the community core for [platform - to platform] and, as the dimensions continue collapsing, it takes us to our FULL MMO OUTCOME.... (cough) sorry... dream got away from me there for a moment

I mean, I could totes be happy with one dimension, Euclid, where we all show up in the Nexus and then, to wherever.

#justsaying

[half verge]

I just want the devs to focus more on procedural generations and some exploration things. I haven't touched this game for a really long time because the game gets boring overtime because after hundred hours of playing this game, I keep finding "same" planets with "same" biomes and "same" floras & faunas over and over again. "vast as an ocean, shallow as a puddle", that's what I can say about this game in short.

Sorry folks, I was just venting. I also haven't visit this community regularly like I used to.

[gloomy hazel]

But it requires we solve Atlas' shrugging and I suspect we might manage it... 🙂

[gloomy hazel]

I feel you. When that starts hitting hard for me, I either take a break or shift my focus to upping my sentinel kill counts, etc.

But over time, it do get harder. So I get it. There are mods for diversity, but I have not yet tried them. I think they just add in more combinations, which isn't the same thing. Building entire biomes and environments is heavy lifting, though. I get why they move slowly, as small as they are.

[half verge]

I really wanted to go back to NMS but the lack of updates about procedural generations keep me away from it.

[gloomy hazel]

Even the procedural requires a robust set of assets to work from... that is the lifting they can't quite get away from just yet. But honestly, at the rate procedural diffusion with ML/AI is going, it won't be long until tech can do that heavy lifting for them. So I hope they're on it.

And if not, I wish they'd hire me to help them get there. >:) I could.

(am prompt engineer for global ml/ai as a service, which is now (already!) a thing... heh)

[half verge]

I tried that mod before, sadly it doesn't work in multiplayer (at that time, I'm not sure about now). Sometimes, I usually engage with other players from this discord for trade and other things, so yeah I can't let it go...

[half verge]

Good for you! I wish I had your skills lol

Hold on, prompt engineer? nevermind

[gloomy hazel]

It's ok. I'm getting paid. Nicely. I don't need your agreement. >:)

[half verge]

Wait, you getting paid for that? okay take my word back lol

[gloomy hazel]

I don't want to tread too far into off topic. Meet me in off topic and I'll explain. 😉

[half verge]

Haha sure, I'll see you there. I don't want to get warned again for tenth times by RedHot.

[wicked patrol]

Yup I've gotten really good at instantly alt-tabbing to task manager when BS like that kills me or looks like it's about to. NMS's UX is honestly pretty bad

One of the UX improvements I submitted a while back was a request for inventory sorting options, the ability to reorder context menu options, ability to set context menu to remember where you were, and an option to set tech items to automatically recharge themselves using a specific stack of item or type of items

[proven fog]

corrupted sentinels needs a more "corrupted" behavior in my opinion, they behave like an standart world but purple. Would be cool if they were more umpredictable; one moment they are harmless, and then in an instant they scan you, popping an wanted level, would be cool if any behavior triggered an unpredictable response, altough it may get annoying sometimes

[wicked patrol]

Big agree there

[pastel minnow]

That's a good point actually, it would be really cool if they were much more unpredictable and random

[pseudo lotus]

idk if this is the channel for it, but I'm very surprised we haven't seen them put ground battles into the game yet. imagine having to go to a building and there's hostile npcs in there. or even having pirates on destroyed frigates, or an alien boss battle or something.

[wicked patrol]

That would require extensive reworks of how the game works, so it's not that surprising 😛

[celest dirge]

imagine multiverse with different planets than we are used to. Like different shapes, materials, and just stuff we aren’t used to seeing. Stuff making no sense.

[rapid widget]

Maybe glitched worlds? That can be found rarely and have all sorts of weird stuff?

[pastel minnow]

I've always wished different galaxies has different terrain systems.
Like some people like the current rolling hills terrain planets have, others miss the pre-NEXT terrain.. might as well have both in different galaxies.

Everyone would be happy that way plus it would give a reason to go between galaxies

[vale schooner]

I agree it could be interesting

make suggestions to hello games bois 😄

[oblique smelt]

More in game diversity is always +

[oblique smelt]

reputation system is star system should have bigger consequences
For player

-20 reputation :
less npc dialouge options(only give gift option to rise reputation)
15% higher prices
-30 reputation :
npc dont want to talk with us
less items to buy on space stations with prices 35% higher
-50 reputation:
Space station vendors dont want to buy or sell things to the player
Guild mission vendors wont talk to us.
Space station trade terminal locked
Npc on space stations dont want to talk with us
-60 reputation:
Space station trade terminal, archive terminals, trade outposts locked
Npc wont talk to us
Vendors wont buy or sell stuff to us
-70 reputation:
All of the above
Space station locked. Cant land on it.
constatnt wanted lvl 1.Only way to get rid of sentinels temporarly is turning them off at sentinel pillar.
-80 reputation :
All of the above
constatnt wanted lvl 2
-90 reputation :
All of the above
Constant wanted lvl 3
-100 reputation :
All of the above
Constant wanted lvl 4
-125 reputation
All of the above
Constant wanted lvl 5
All Npc freighters and ships will attack player

[toxic slate]

I've just always felt the universe-wide race-based reputation system was kinda silly. Would love to see procedurally-generated factions that inhabit specific zones of each galaxy (similar to their original plans for factions Sean talked about prior to launch), of which you can gain or lose rep with each one. And perhaps part of that rep is your relationship with nearby competing factions

[stark ingot]

Got an idea for a new planet type: Electrical Planets

Frequent lightning strikes that heavily damage you if hit, darker lighting due to clouds, extreme heat spikes whenever you're near but not actively getting struck by lightning, and chances for resources ranging from pure ferrite to storm crystals in areas struck by lightning

Storms on these planets would increase lightning strike frequency, increase chances for higher value items in the struck areas, and slowly recharge technology automatically

[unreal dome]

hear me out: opening any two inventories you're within access range of side by side, be it starships, exocraft, freighter, containers, etc... as well as smaller cargo containers that do not link with existing ones and only retain cargo within one location, as well as being accessible by other players on per-box basis

[unreal dome]

also proper trading system for players. ranging from additional trading terminal at the Anomaly where players could put items for sale and put bets to get those items at specific price, to trading terminals players can build at their bases to sell their shit locally

[vale schooner]

I agree and I think it is pretty weird to be able to rep+ by gifting stuff in a pirate system

[normal fox]

and if you go up with one faction if they have grievvenmces with others it will go down. Like 3 races but each system or cluster might have a goverment

and interstellar wars would be cool each faction depending on wealth gives you more or less

[vale schooner]

agreed

[normal fox]

endergy harvesters for this would be cool lighting rods and since it would contain activated metals it would be like an electromagnetic harvester but everywhere

[vale schooner]

I fully agree on this, it would be badass af

[normal fox]

A cool idea for ship classes i had was Hauler A button idk mayybe "K", would divert power from the weapons of you do less damage but go faster and have heaps of sheild. Explorer could scan the whole system (like in a freighter), Solar is already good. Shuttle- 2-5 player seating (I think a tech upgrade for "Quantum Seating". Fighter could take power from engines (Slower) and sheild, Builds up over time and releaseds a massive burst of power (like an EMP). Sorry its so long.

[vale schooner]

ye, ships need more specificity by themselves, just like interceptors*

I think solar ships should be able to recharge the launcher while flying in space

[heady phoenix]

do they not already do that?

[vale schooner]

no, the have automatic recharge when landed

along with tremendous pulse reactor efficiency

[heady phoenix]

I see

[normal fox]

one thing i really want (for my cyberpunk city) is cusomizable signs and holograms with text and custom art

[sage pasture]

The planet scanner at the galactic freighter cannot scan activated resources, just show normal resources. When I scan with space ship, the activated resources are shown in the planet description. Would be nice if the galactic freighter could do the same. (PS5).

[wicked patrol]

I think you could just have a set amount of factions but rep, in addition to being a lot more detailed (otherwise there's no point to any of this), would only be "local"

Like you gain 20 rep in a system. It's 20 for the surrounding ~1000 LY and begins diminishing as you move farther away from that cluster of systems

[warped granite]

any plans to remove the required nav data to call your ship to a landing pad?
https://imgur.com/a/Itp5UMk
whilst this works its kinda dumb and would be nice to just be able to use the terminal and have my ship actually land on the pad that i built...
also why are images blocked in this channel 😦

[vast wave]

Images are not blocked here, you need a higher rank on the server

See #roles-information

[warped granite]

fair enough, i assumed since i could post em in the #nms-questions that wasnt the issue

[pastel minnow]

Sean hasn't been active on Twitter for over half a month now 👀

[hot flame]

Have an internal sitting there though

[pastel minnow]

[turbid portal]

What this game needs is more landscape and procedural generation updates because there is a point that is not worth it to go to other planets. Most of them are the same with a different color palette or slightly new color, if at least the landscape was intersting it would be great but it isn’t the case

Really solid game in all others aspects tho, I just think that the game is focusing a lot on playable context like expeditions and less into giving us more planet variations, after all no man’s sky is about exploration

[visual cloak]

me for 6 years

[pastel minnow]

Every planet should have essential resources in unpredictable forms and places.
Like planet 1 would have oxygen only in caves, sodium as resource deposits and di-hydrogen only in water, planet 2 has oxygen as crystals, sodium in animals, di-hydrogen as flowers etc..

It would give purpose to the scanner, it would make every planet worth exploring, and it would give your home planet much more meaning since you'd memorize where essential resources are and how to get them there.

[vale schooner]

agreed on this, but always with the correct colors so new people can find it more easily

[turbid portal]

I definitely agree with you, that would give a lot of variety to the game with a “simple” change to the game, especially when most resources can be found in different states, like imagine founding a planet with Liquid Oxygen or a completely frozen ocean that you need to mine to find a new resource

[turbid portal]

Indeed, maybe instead of saying only the name like the current scanner, the resources could be outlined with different colors

[pastel minnow]

Well we already have some planets that have filters that change the colors of resources. I don't think it'd be an issue for resources to be even wildly different as long as we have the scanner that shows us where stuff is

[vale schooner]

red glow for oxygen, yellow for sodium and blue for hydrgen

I think it would still be nice to be able to notice what you need easily as it is right now

and if there are color filters, then it filters, but not many planets have those

[turbid portal]

I agree

[pastel minnow]

Oh maybe it could get enabled after you've scanned something with an essential resource, so that you're in the dark when you land on a planet but after exploring for a while and you discover it, it becomes easier to tell. I think that would be pretty cool

[turbid portal]

Also Gas Giants on the game would be great btw

[pastel minnow]

But still, you could just press C and scan the environment for them anyway 😄

I actually want ring worlds more than gas giants lol
It would be cool to land on such things

Or hey, gas giants that look way more beautiful than current planets, but they have a chance to have a ring world near them instead of moons or something

[vale schooner]

ring worlds ?*

[pastel minnow]

Yeah, like Halo

[vale schooner]

that would be a mess to navigate xD

[turbid portal]

Or just make random combinations in general because in the vastness of space immense planets, planets with 100 rings and things like that exist so yeah since ring worlds would probably mess the gravity we could have literal random worlds with a lot of variety

Something like space engine I guess

[half verge]

Yeah I couldn't agree more, it is the sole reason why I don't touch NMS for months, hell it's almost a year now. This game is all about exploration, not building things. I'm afraid if Sean thinks he would make this game more like Minecraft.

[vale schooner]

I just think this goes along with starship updates and stuff, its some very old content, which can be tough to re-explore and modify, so it takes time

[half verge]

True, but if they keep trying to forget about it, the problem will never go away and instead, it will becoming much bigger problem that eventually never get solved in the end of the day.

They need to modify NMS' procedural generation ASAP

[pastel minnow]

Sadly, it feels like exploration is the least of HG's priorities nowadays.
They focus waaaay more on cosmetics, capes, helmets, pets, expedition ships, titles, posters etc... just cosmetics and decoration stuff..
a lot of which is timed exclusives

[half verge]

You know, I used to think that I wish I could refund the game. But since I got the game during sale and even received huge amount of free contents, I'll let it slide.

[pastel minnow]

Oh totally. The game is definitely worth full price with the current state of content and possibilities, as well as all the updates it keeps receiving.
I'm just saying I wish their focus was more on exploration is all

Though on the other hand, they did radically shift their focus in early 2022 where they started overhauling and expanding existing content instead of adding purely new stuff, cause everything kept getting criticized as being shallow and pointless

[vale schooner]

I think they have a good balance right now, and its good they add more basic stuff

as a cosplay enjoyer, I will never complain about more customization possibilities tbh

[turbid portal]

That’s why I said the game is kinda solid on other aspects but the initial focus, exploration has been lost over time. Why would I want to explore a game that has an infinity of planets if all planets are going to look the same, you could explore 20 planets and already seen everything. But I think that instead of doing a sudden change over the planets, bring the changes over multiple planets so they can balance between general content and planet reworks

[vale schooner]

now that they added new ship types with a TON of possibilities, I think the focus should indeed be shifted towards planet generation, or more freigther classes

[pastel minnow]

I've kinda accepted that planet terrain generation will never get better, what we have right now is the best it'll get but every asset on planets will continue to improve, new assets get added etc..

I hope I'm wrong though, but I can't see them resetting the universe just to make planet terrain more interesting

[vale schooner]

they wont be resetting, they added dissonant planets already, imo its a step forward !

they just modify randomly some already existing planets

[pastel minnow]

Yeah that's what I mean, the assets, colors, new buildings and stuff to do gets better, but the terrain itself on planets stays the same

[vale schooner]

oh, well I think the terrain is already very good, we range from ultra-mountainous planets to extensive plains, so I think the most important now is improving the fauna-flora to make some things even more curious

maybe having special fauna biomes underground, so maybe some planets will have a barren exterior, but is full of life underground

I think there are many more to do just around the fauna/flora

[turbid portal]

Agree, let’s see what the future brings

[proven fog]

would be quite cool if you could build the rare treasures you get during the ruins on your base, and so on, doesnt matter if they arent that procedurally generated, just a way to display them would be cool enough, interacting with them just show the desc, etc...

[trail pulsar]

actually seeing our traveler use their arms on the controls of starships would be sick

[celest dirge]

not that the game neeed more size, but imagine when you have came so long in-game you are bored of the different galaxies and planets. So rather they make a new faster travel that can take you from different universes. These universes could really trick your mind since they can be nothing to what we are used too. Might me different shapes and planets, fuctions, etc.

[wicked patrol]

The easiest way to incentivize visiting many different planets is to reduce PoI frequency. Instead of 30 crashed ships per planet, maybe it's only a few in the entire system. Maybe you get coordinates for a system six jumps away. NMS's biggest design flaw is that you can do basically everything gameplay related in a handful of systems when it should be designed around needing to explore and exploit numerous systems

The problem with reducing poi/resource frequency is that it will quickly be made apparent just how EMPTY planets really are. That's probably just an unavoidable engine limitation. Results of being a 2016 game, 7 years later

[worn idol]

Huge agree, everything feels far too common. The variety of planets isnt even an issue as much as the fact that nothing actually feels unexplored or rare. Even the supposedly empty systems are filled with "man-made" items and structures.

Even making significantly more of the planets airless barren planets could give a lot more rarity to the planets that are really good. As it is now, the game feels slightly oversaturated at times, and could use a little more "space". No pun intended

[wicked patrol]

It's likely not feasible without dramatic changes to the game but more non-poi things to randomly spawn would be a nice thing to add to the game. Mods can do this, somewhat, and it does make exploration a bit more enjoyable

[worn idol]

The feeling from arriving at a lonely space station after a long time exploring a vast swathe of dangerous, uncharted space is something I always felt was missing. The complete and utter lack of real danger or risk guts the excitement of exploring, and survival mode is only a partial fix

I've always thought they could add new stars alongside the old ones, with large regions on the star chart dedicated to being uncharted/hostile space.
This would be clearly denoted in the galaxy map, and entering this territory would notify you with a warning.
In these places, they could reduce saves to just saving at bases and stations, add challenging organic enemies in space to replace sentinels, and dramatically reduce the availability of man made structures and containers. These territories would allow hg to add higher stakes content without reducing or removing existing planets/bases/content.

You could utilize these areas to add new flora, fauna, missions, or planet types, too. All without disturbing the older planets

[wicked patrol]

Challenging organic enemies is probably a flat no-go for this game

It would require an enormous amount of effort to get their animations to look good, and janky animations would make the game look really bad

It's okay for mods/player created content to look janky because it's often being "forced" into the game

but dev-created content should be polished

If you wanted to add new enemies, expanding on the biological horrors with different types seems like the most obvious choice

[flat crest]

Story mode would be very cool

Don't know how that'd work but I would absolutely love to see it in-game

[vapid tree]

Hey I don’t know if anyone has suggested it but being able to edit friends freighters when in groups and travel inside them when they warp would be cool

[toxic slate]

You might want to reconsider if HG cares that much about animations looking "janky". (I don't think they do that much, they prefer releasing features in a timely cadence over perfection, generally speaking)

But I do doubt they will make the existing races player-hostile at this point, HG just don't seem interested

[warm mango]

Any chance we may get cities / towns on planets?

[normal garnet]

There kinda is or you can crest one my hand

[warm mango]

Oh, but I don't mean settlements

I mean towns, large, that you could walk around for a few minutes

[normal garnet]

Oh I hope they don’t my ps4 lags just by going onto the surface of a planet

[oblique smelt]

Small chance. Hg must consider all platforms when adding stuff. Including switch. Only option now is payers create small cities by building one together.

[warm mango]

The switch does not have settlements 🥺 I sometimes play on it while on the go, but it feels like only part of the game

[oblique smelt]

There was some leaks on switch 2. Maybe it will be powerfull enough to include settlements.

[warm mango]

Damn, just got the switch oled 2 weeks ago

But I think switch 2 is not coming until april 2024 at the earliest

[thorn grove]

What's the next update?

[unreal dome]

no one knows

hear me out: system overview 3d map. shows relative position of all planets and markers, as well as your current position within system.

and local exportable 2d maps for small portions of land on planets (think up to 5000x5000u)

[steep mason]

Have it for that freighters can have glassing ports and you can glass the surface of planets similar to how in halo covenant ships can glass planets

[vale schooner]

no big point on glassing a planet tbh

what do you want to kill on it ? dirt ?

[lethal pecan]

To have fun. It's a videogame after all. Would be cool for screenshots, RPG elements, and something powerful to screw around with as a reward is always fun in video games.

[golden cobalt]

a way to make donations to guild envoys for guild standing

[unreal dome]

freighter corridors have shape variants (straight, L, T) but exterior catwalks don't which is kinda shame

[steep mason]

well maybe you only glass one part of the planet

[wicked patrol]

Yeah but you can get away with a lot more jank with robots (watch mechs walk around sometime) than with human enemies. If they're going to be jittery and robotic, might as well just make them robots

I think it's more likely we get new types of sentinels and such, if they add anything

[wicked patrol]

That'll never happen. No way previous gen hardware can handle that

[ocean saddle]

ouch

i want dual mts

[plucky lichen]

I want No Man's Sky 2 cuz weak ass hardware as Switch won't handle anything epic and is holding the game back

[wicked patrol]

I doubt it. I would imagine being built on a game from 2016 is what holds it back

[oblique smelt]

We dont need NMS 2. More like NMS 2.0 . game still has huge potential and space to grow .

[hot flame]

False. The Switch doesn't even have everything the other versions do. You could apply that same logic to anything that doesn't have a 4090 RTX - which is most people rigs.

[pastel minnow]

Well we're already past NMS 4.0

[gloomy hazel]

they need to do more with the colossus exocraft, like even if it had an interior, expanded into FOB or just let 4 people sit in it

[ocean saddle]

i think that ppl in your party should be able to drive your exocraft

[elder charm]

More freighter building stuff

[wicked patrol]

I wouldn't want an NMS 2, frankly. I think the concept of "quadrillions of planets to explore!" isn't what it's cracked up to be

I think it'd be better to have even just one solar system of detailed, semi-randomized planets to explore. Or you'd have to go the opposite direction and minimize the impact of planets in favor of making space itself more detailed and nuanced

[timid summit]

Remember that new hello games game that they’re cooking? Supposed to be huge? Wonder how that’s going

[icy onyx]

Ideal NMS UI

[pastel minnow]

I remember reading an article that talked about a new update that came out and also included a thing where all Sean said was that they're working on a new ambitious game and will reveal it when it's ready.

... And hunderds of comments only focused on attacking Sean and calling him all sorts of slurs because "he hasn't learned his lesson and is repeating the same exact mistakes he did with NMS after all these years"

By far the weirdest reaction I've ever seen on the internet. Came absolutely out of nowhere. No one talked about the update and all focused being enraged by something that didn't exist..
But yeah, as much as I wish HG shared more about their new game, even mentioning that they're working on something is enough to set people off I guess

[elder charm]

improve flight and ship fights, not add new features(tbf the freighter update was cool), improve existing ones. like maybe make it joystick compatible, feel like nms will really become popular if ship fighting mechanic gets fleshed out som more

[vale schooner]

Wdym joystick compatible ?

[elder charm]

I haven't tried b4 but aren't most flight simulation games and even planes controlled via a stick, but I think they use some improvised handle now, but can still be pulled and moved like the stick(idk could be wrong). Joysticks are mostly used for those type of games, like NMS's flight for example. Would be really smooth.

Not rlly a requirement, just used it as an example.

[gloomy hazel]

They should add energy shields comparable in strength to the ones Covenant Supecarriers from Halo.

[main pecan]

Ridable space fauna

[vale schooner]

There are joysticks on a controller, its joystick compatible 🧐

[pastel minnow]

I always thought NMS flight controls were fine and didn't see why people wanted them changed.. then I just started playing Outer Wilds yesterday and within the first 5 minutes I found myself wishing NMS had flight like that lol

[wicked patrol]

Ship fights can't be improved without essentially completely reworking how ships work. Same reason we can't have "make combat better"

[pastel minnow]

HG seems to be developing around weird design decisions.
Like the player movement wasn't built for combat so they try to improve combat while designing enemies around the non-combat player movement.
Or how the majority of textures in the game are broken and don't cast light, but they designed the derelict freighters around those weird textures

[wicked patrol]

If their efforts are primarily going into whatever comes next, it wouldn't surprise me if they just use NMS as a test bed and training tool

[pastel minnow]

That's actually pretty interesting

[wicked patrol]

I figure, NMS is pretty much done. Probably has been for a while. I'm sure we'll see more expeditions because they're probably relatively easy to make. We might see other stuff too but nothing on the scale the game "needs" because... what's the point?

Previous gen and now switch are always going to limit what you can do, and I'm under the impression that the game itself is rather messy under the hood too

At some point it just makes more sense to close the book unless it's still making you money hand over fist, like Minecraft

Though even Minecraft is probably more from merch and spin-off sales than the core game these days

[toxic slate]

people have been saying things like this for five years and they're always proven wrong. the game has a lot of life left in it as long as HG continues to be interested in working on it

[pastel minnow]

Lots of people have that impression.
But Sean has also been saying how they're far from done with NMS and that they're aiming to mae 2023 a bigger year than 2022 which imo was NMS's best year

[wicked patrol]

What life is left in it, though? You'd have to rework core gameplay systems or procgen to address the extreme lack of depth in the game. Stapling stuff on top only goes so far

And the more stuff you add to gameplay systems, the more demands the game will make of system hardware

[elder charm]

yeah but was just suggesting they improve a feature in nms into really good levels, bcs what they're rlly just doing with the updates are introducing new stuff without fleshing the old(kinda, they did improve the space fight with the sentinel freighter being destroyable which is good)

[wicked patrol]

I think it has to happen if you're committed to "NMS is gonna be better than ever!" but I think that's just marketing speak

Exploration is the focus of the game, but the pool of procgen assets is really small

A few dozen trees, a few dozen shrubs, a few dozen rocks. Every cave has one of two types of stalagmite and stalactite and one of a few types of cave flower. Feels like there might be a few dozen animal parts total so you tend to see animals that look very similar to each other and they're almost always the same green or brown hues, etc

If "fly around quintillions of planets and see tons of cool stuff!" is the primary focus, those asset pools should number in the hundreds of trees, shrubs, animal parts, etc

More variety in buildings and PoI's, and so on

And if exploration isn't the focus, then you really need to rework basic game mechanics for starships, factions, ground combat, etc

[wicked patrol]

If they're dedicated to NMS, I'd think base building could use another few passes too. More assets of course, but also perhaps more dye colors/more detailed dye options, and maybe some UI improvements. Whole game could use some UI improvements...

[pastel minnow]

Based on updates, exploration is more like an afterthought now.
Aside from the wonders feature, they haven't really done anything for exploration in years. They just focus on either overhauling existing assets and expanding/modernizing them, or focus on cosmetics and expeditions. A bizzare gamemode for what's meant to be an exploration game imo.

[wicked patrol]

Yeah

Expeditions not being playable at-will is also an incredibly stupid decision

[worn idol]

There should be an active expedition that works like the existing ones, then also allow you to pick from any of the preexisting expeditions separately. That way you could still play with other people doing the old expeditions, and not have to waste all of that old content they spent time on.

Plus, fomo is a really bad thing to put in a game like this

[wicked patrol]

How would that work?

[worn idol]

just have a drop down menu when you go to make a new game that lets you select old expeditions

call it "Legacy Expeditions" or something

like a new gamemode

then each one would have its own instance for players like they usually do

that way you could still do expeditions if you missed them, or dont want to be rushed, or if theres not a currently active one

[wicked patrol]

yeah that sounds fine to me

[worn idol]

Could give a small unique reward to those that complete the expedition the first time it shows up, too

could be just a title or decal

[vast wave]

Then I assume you have found a way to keep server space for 10 different expeditions, a way to match players according to the exped they play, a way to store all that data, a way to keep expedition community research separarate from Quicksilver research when they use the same framework

And probably dozen other technical challenges, then you should really offer your services to HG and let the whole playerbase benefit from that

[wicked patrol]

Scrap quicksilver because it's a stupid microtransaction-esque system that has no purpose. Make rewards tied to exploration, milestones, and meta achievements instead since that directly supports actually going out and exploring and participating in the game instead of doing one random mission per day. That solves that part of the problem

Want a tree to plant on your bases? Go scan X number of flora on the planet type it comes from. Stuff like that

You could make expedition re-runs single player only or pre-formed groups only if "live" MP would cause too many headaches. HG has plenty of experience making games, I'm sure they could devise solutions themselves if they actually wanted to

But I have no interest in defending bad design choices. Many such mistakes are only apparent in hindsight, but that doesn't mean you should continue making the same mistakes repeatedly

[worn idol]

The fomo is the part that I dislike the most. I think it's important to incorporate rare and hard to obtain rewards, but fomo is not difficulty, nor does it make the items feel all that more valuable, especially when it means large chunks of players will never see that content. They put a lot of time into all this expedition content just to not have it not playable for months at a time. I'd rather have more permanent additions and features rather than disappearing fomo content, personally

Even if getting old expedition rewards takes a long time and is hard, I'd take that over not ever being able to get them at your own pace

[wicked patrol]

Back before MTX based systems rotted everyone's minds, achievements were the traditional way to unlock goodies, even before there were "official" achievements

Beat the game on hard in under 2 hours, get infinite SMG. Do it on more extra hard, get infinite rocket launcher

Scan 20 unique Flora on lush planets, gain this plant for your bases. Scan another 20, get another plant. And so on

NMS doesn't have cash MTX but quicksilver is essentially just the freemium currency those games dole out to Skinner people into playing regularly. I cannot think of any rational reason for it to still exist

[ruby aspen]

It's been exactly 2 months since Singularity dropped, and I reckon the next update is right around the corner. What would you like to see?

[atomic tiger]

Some answers to what the corruptions is lmao,Just gotta wait for the emojis

[ruby aspen]

well they did say that the expedition was just 2/4... so we can expect to get more of that sweet sweet lore. Also, the 7th(?) anniversary is in 2 days so 👀

[atomic tiger]

We gonna be eating good

[ruby aspen]

We making it out of GLASS with this next one 🔥🔥🔥

[atomic tiger]

Do we know what the 1 part was?

[ruby aspen]

wasnt it Interceptor?

i think that makes the most sense

[atomic tiger]

Yea that makes sense

[celest berry]

is there a feature you really wish was implemented in the game?

[wicked patrol]

There's a ton of things people have said they'd enjoy, up above lol

[compact gust]

Yea a feature where when you are in a group your missions don’t bug out. As a new player I thought the game was busted but it’s just multiplayer not playing well with the game.

[pastel minnow]

Apparently it's not on HG's end since they have very little control over multiplayer stuff due to using someone else's service/servers or something.
I know there's just one whole dude responsible for their multiplayer stuff.

[elder charm]

First person warp view, all warps(when in starship) is 3rd person, would like the option to have it in first person

[wicked patrol]

Yeah I think calling NMS a multiplayer game is almost a half-lie. It's definitely lacking in a lot of things you'd expect from a co-op game. Being able to share coordinates, bases, etc is really great though

[pastel minnow]

First person warp in ships as well as proper exit and enter animations for ships used to exist in the game.
They got removed in the NEXT update sadly

Up until recently it used to be a fade out and in when you'd get out of a ship in first person... But they recently added an awkward thing where the windshield sorta kinda tries to open up and you start growing taller in your seat.. And then you fade in and out of your ship. Not sure what that's about, but grtting out of a ship sure is a little longer now.

I miss when you could actually open the windshield and get physically ejected out of your seat..

[normal fox]

dancing emote

for the music

[vast wave]

There is a dancing emote in the game

[granite cosmos]

Just gotta buy it with money quicksilver

[rich jacinth]

You know, I don't ask much but maybe new themes of loot like how we got Sentinel ships and rifles.

Perhaps ancient ships, MTs, and even cosmetics since we only dig up those places for artifacts.

A very popular but might not be possible request are either multi-biome planets or fractured planets with a good chunk of it destroyed pre-generated.

[celest berry]

thats a cool idea

[thorny gulch]

Multi legged beasties where the body 'floats' supported by legs connected to feet and each foot sort of is like a creature so it appears to walk on the terrain rather than do that weird shit most creatures and their feet do floating across holes and whatnot idk I'm drunk

[wicked patrol]

More reasons to explore are definitely what the game needs, regardless of the form those incentives take

[analog lance]

Overhaul to settlements, frontiers style update for abandoned stations

Do something with guild envoys too

idk what tbh

[rapid tinsel]

Yes

Dw guys hg updates so frequently

[analog lance]

mobile bases maybe via the Colossus

[wicked patrol]

Mobile bases would probably never happen

The game already struggles to load terrain fast enough to keep up with a roamer. Having to keep track of a base at the same time?

[analog lance]

Maybe just let it have a refiner or something that opens up on it

[wicked patrol]

Just give players a personal medium refiner or something

[analog lance]

These two are what I want the most

[analog lance]

we have exosuit refiners iirc

[wicked patrol]

Yeah. I'm saying, add a version that can take two inputs or something

[analog lance]

at this point idm what they add other than what i've mentioned

Tping directly to frigates without recalling them if they need repairs or w/e would be really nice

[latent urchin]

A simple addition would be separating reticle scaling and HUD scaling it would be a nice QOL change

[wicked patrol]

Yeah. NMS leaves a lot to be desired on the UI/UX front

[analog lance]

Oh there is a thing i want actually

A toggle for boosting in ships

[proven fog]

A portable cooking device with one to two slots would be a nice addition, in particular at the start of a save as a known blueprint, to give some incentive to cook early for shields, hazards etc... also some buff to the hp of big creatures, so they can at least defend thenselves and not die in one hit to a half meter cat

would be nice to get biome-exclusive carnivorous plant hazards too as for now we get exactly the same plants for all the biomes most of the time

[wicked patrol]

A revamp of cooking would definitely be pretty nice

[latent urchin]

Also touchpad support for PS4/5 would be nice

Probably along side a general option for all binds

So you can really set things up the way you want

[wicked patrol]

You can't rebind buttons on ps?

[latent urchin]

(Big want for me with the touch pad is to have summoning, recharging equipment, changing view, torch, starship communicator, warping, scans to be faster)

[latent urchin]

No

There’s little things here and there that you can but only in set ways

At least from what I understand am willing to be corrected

[wicked patrol]

That's dumb as hell

[latent urchin]

Yeah it’s a bit odd in its ways

Like gyro aim is supported but not the touchpad

(And using it as a singular big button isn’t supporting it that’s treating it as a select button)

[latent urchin]

You can technically force a rebind via the PS settings but it doesn’t go that far and it also keeps the same icons (ie if you bound L2 and R2 to L1 and R1 they’d read as the former regardless)

[gloomy hazel]

As a player, I want the planetary probe to be accessible from the freighter main console, so I don't have to run back and forth like a fool to scan the system. (bow)

[lucid nova]

I wish NMS leaned more into horror other than just desolation. I'm sure someone thinks "Oh, that ruins the exploration" but really, it doesn't. It adds to the fear of the unknown. It's less scary when I encounter a 'horror' and more "oh c'mon, that's more time wasted killing this thing".

[rich jacinth]

Exactly. The best way to get folks engaged into exploring very unused areas is throwing in the rare loot that can be only found there. Interceptor is a great first step with the Sentinel gear. Plus some neat stories too.

[rich jacinth]

You know how derelict freighters sometimes have rogue AI or random creatures there? Why not we have hostile abandoned space stations that are a hybrid of the Derelict Freighter and Sentinel Starships?

Those abandoned stations need some massive shakeups

[latent urchin]

Difficulty addition horror level from peaceful to terrifying

[vale schooner]

hear me out: crashed space station

[normal fox]

yess

and: If you sell an item to a systems market it stays there for a while (aka community moderated markets affect by the player demand)

[vast wave]

Lol, you wanna let people ruin the economy in popular systems?

Any player run group / civilization, any weekend event system

That's a recipe for a disaster

[vast wave]

Game can't properly show up a planetary archive at once, you want to force it to display something even bigger that's procedurally generated?

[vale schooner]

xD

[normal fox]

make it much more diccicult to inflate or deflte prices (much harder)

i sold 600 omric gel when it was in +60% mining econmomy and it went down to -80%

it needs to be like 10000s to do such a thing

[vale schooner]

wait, prices vary when you sell stuff ?

[normal fox]

yeah

i sort of want it to multiplayer maybe some sort of valt on a spacestation that you can sell items at a set price so they can ruin the economy all they want with only a slight impact on the player vault

[rapid tinsel]

I hope they start changing stuff again instead of adding stuff

[pastel minnow]

They've been doing that with every content update since 2022

Frontiers was the last one to really add a huge new feature that was useless/shallow/disconnected from everything else

[vale schooner]

what did frontiers add ?

[pastel minnow]

Settlements.
But also overhauled base building completely.

Every other update after that has been purely focused on just overhualing existing stuff
Well, Outlaws added squadrons, they're absolute crap

[vale schooner]

ok I see

I agree that settlements for the moment are kinda weird

I decided to not even bother with one at the moment

[rapid tinsel]

Yeah once you have one you can't abandon it

[pastel minnow]

I really dislike how the stats for settlements and squadrons are absolutely meaningless and just fake...

[vale schooner]

I use squadron to store ships I like the design of

😄

they are useless but atleast they are cool

[pastel minnow]

I had to let all of mine go cause they were really annoying.
Not only did they get in the way but they never kept up with me if I called them myself or they'd always show up into battle without me calling them and go away as soon as it was over without me telling them to leave..

Like, you'd think you'd have control over them or have a setting you could toggle for them to not do stuff on their own but I guess not. So I had to just let them all go

[rapid tinsel]

Me 2

[vapid fog]

@wicked patrol I searched for upcoming game to see if there was any information and during it I found you saying that skyrim has been ported to everything but copying machines and refrigerators. They have made that text based version for Alexa and that's in refrigerators

[empty jetty]

As someone who is very sick of most modern sci-fi TV/gaming containing horror and gore, no thanks. Some of us squeamish players would like some scifi games to play too.

[lucid nova]

who said there'd be gore?

[empty jetty]

So what, just jump scares? NMS has those.

[lucid nova]

no

Jump scares aren't horror

it's a loud sound/thing on screen that startles you. You don't feel frightened, or scared, just surprised

[empty jetty]

Define what you consider horror.

[lucid nova]

It's hard to describe

But the thought of a derelict freighter, with the fate of the crew unknown, is just terrifying. Hearing the creaks and groans of the ship, seeing the darkness but not knowing what's in it is pretty freaky. But, NMS has the little horrors, which are kinda cute, in their own way

[empty jetty]

Ahh, so atmosphere is what you want. Like how Subnautica plays into thalassophobia.

[lucid nova]

Yes, but also some sort of monster would be nice

It’s pretty disappointing when the thing that wiped out an entire armed crew was… a little critter that could be a pet?

[empty jetty]

Some of the implications of what happens to the derelict freighter crews can be creepy. They could easily play into that more.

[lucid nova]

And add some more evidence. Maybe if it was an AI takeover, the helmets could be cracked and burned

[empty jetty]

The ones without the infestations, I mean.

[empty jetty]

Oh yes, I agree with this.

[lucid nova]

Gore would kill the vibe of NMS, but it could be creepier

I’m not afraid of the unknown if the unknown looks like a marketable plush for ages 2-6

[empty jetty]

Have some Anomaly bodies collapsed in places. Enough to implicate, but not enough to be gross.

[lucid nova]

Or add burn marks to imply the crew at least fought back

[empty jetty]

Always found it weird that the crew is usually dead just a few days before you arrive usually... but no bodies anywhere?

[lucid nova]

Because looking at the crew manifests, there’s around 150 or so people, and you’re telling me none of them had the balls to kick the equivalent of a puppy?

I find that hard to believe

[empty jetty]

Thanks for clarifying, this I'm in agreement on.

(Also, work break's over, later!)

[lucid nova]

Cya

Speaking of marketable plushes, I’m sure there’s more than a few people who’d shell out 20 bucks for a little horror plush.

[pastel minnow]

This is the very reason I never understood why they're called jumpscares.
... They're startles.

[celest dirge]

Add some way of sorting with space stations, universes, planets, etc. I personally haven’t gotten so far in story (patterns in time) and allready feel the struggle with all the different space stations and what planets got which ressources, that’s why I think we should be able to name our universes like a nickname that says in a «» next to the real name, so we can sort them out as we want maybe as the name of the ressources we get or other, also could add a way of searching between different space stations by name in the portal where you teleport.

[latent urchin]

Audio/SFX packs for quicksilver so you can have environmental, vehicular, weapons audio that’s more “realistic” or more fictitious

Sounds a bit odd but like sound plays such a major role in how games can feel

Additionally filters like the ones in photo mode but for the whole gameplay loop and again for quicksilver

Maybe not quicksilver for one or either of them but whatever works

[latent urchin]

And for filters maybe an additional unique system of when in certain contexts a different filter comes on from a percentage to fully the other filter (including default/no filter) like when it gets dark, bright, in water, in a storm (would be cool if you could set it to specific storms but if that’s too costly I understand)

Allowing one to tailor their game to feelings of any normal moment exactly the way they want to. @lucid nova made a comment about a more horror vibe this is something that would work great with that

[lucid nova]

Yes, sure, but that just doesn’t seem… right

[latent urchin]

Things like this can really add to replay value if you’re super into the replay value argument

Playing shadow of the colossus on PS4 was really good because one of the things they added that was just right without doing too much was the filters

[lucid nova]

People can’t experience the game in the same way. Sure, people don’t experience it the same way anyways, but still, I feel people should be able to see the same things and discuss those without having to get quicksilver

[latent urchin]

(There wasn’t audio but still)

[latent urchin]

I was just using quicksilver as a sort of generic currency insert