How is everyone today?
#other-games
glass plinth
shadow tartan
wanton bough
titanfall 2 vr mode
instant motion sickness
but actually imagine how cool being able to just sit down and like control a titan HOTAS style
wanton bough
in pokemon i have like 2 really good pokemon and idk i've never gotten to the point where i needed the other ones
probably will soon though
nvm the opponents when you redo the champion cup don't dynamax
faint wagon
coarse swift
https://youtu.be/BJhF0L7pfo8
silver sparrow
dry copper
charred badge
what do you think private eyes do for a living?
dry copper
what do you think private eyes do for a living?
Depends on the type. There are different licensing requirements for self proclaimed detectives and they are still only afforded the same rights as civilians.
I've considered working as a skip tracer, but ugh...
the idea of sitting in wait for hours upon hours to track people
Boooooooooooooooring
Then you have bail bondsman who chase down people who are jumping their bail.
If you hire someone to harass another person, that's not necessarily legal. The media in this case are probably putting a shine on the story to suggest impropriety by Nintendo. They wanted him to stop and they didn't want to need to go to court over it.
My opinion, it's a non-story.
It's certainly not as salacious as the stingray program used nation wide by police to monitor communications
Police....Foreigners...Intelligence infrastructure
Shit...There's no reason to believe it's not used even today
dry copper
Nobody seemed to had even noticed during this pandemic that Daft Punk retired
Thirty years of defining a generation of electropop
bronze wind
Everyone noticed lol, was a big thing when it happened
dry copper
Really? I must've been living in a hole...during a pandemic...or something
charred badge
Nobody seemed to had even noticed during this pandemic that Daft Punk retired
Nah, there was a lot of hype at the time
crisp sparrow
yeah looks like you missed all the daft punk posts here and in offtopic
dry copper
Noticed nobody remarked on DMX being in the hospital recently....after he suffered a heart attack.
Wait nm it's not OD...the first story I read said OD (corrected).
willow crypt
guys, i just heard System of a Down is breaking up
dry copper
lol
willow crypt
oh he’s still alive?
dry copper
Speaking of SOAD, this was posted four days ago
Isn't that old?
Confused why they're re-posting old shit
willow crypt
hmm why would they repost that
i do think they’re probably going to work on a new album
after releasing those new songs
dry copper
Ever had an audio book? I've never had one...but think I might enjoy them
crisp sparrow
just the idea of an audiobook sounds weird to me
I've never tried it and wont in the future
willow crypt
yeah
i’m listening to Lonesome Dove
good voice
it’s good for walks and driving
i hate just sitting and doing nothing while listening though
raven frost
Nobody seemed to had even noticed during this pandemic that Daft Punk retired
what are you talking about? this was huge news about a month ago
literally everyone was talking about it
sleek cloud
austere lance
It's a lite remaster
Basically just higher resolution
I just tried the new Battletoads, holy fuck the humor in it makes Borderlands look like Shakespeare
Here it is, lads. A bunch of the changes in Mass Effect Legendary Edition
https://www.ea.com/games/mass-effect/mass-effect-legendary-edition/news/gameplay-calibrations?utm_campaign=mele_hd_ww_ic_soco_twt_me-gameplay-fb&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cid=68230&ts=1617725469532&isLocalized=true
wanton bough
I FOUND A CLONE OF SCORCHED EARTH
HOLY SHIT
that game was so fun
i was only able to play it on those dos games websites
cause windows 10 doesn't really support 16-bit games
wanton bough
xscorch, it's a linux package
full pivot
ah
wanton bough
doesn't have everything from the original and it's a bit buggy but still fun
pretty sure the only way you'd be able to get it on windows 10 would be to use like ubuntu in WSL and somehow host your own X server
full pivot
i'll live
wanton bough
and then you could always find a copy of the original .exe and run it with dosbox
shadow tartan
wanton bough
alright the bots don't buy enough
like first round, no shields, nothing except baby missiles and maybe just normal missile
just checked and for some reason, bots aren't allowed to buy by default
echo hill
Halo MCC season 6 tomorrow I'm hyped 😎
coarse swift
https://forum.prime2d.com/t/prime-2d-demo-v0-1-21-4-1/6582
dear god
Thank you for sharing this
shadow tartan
Thank you for sharing this
Anytime, been waiting for it a while
austere lance
I'm still playing Mount and Blade Warband, the AI is insane for a game this old. 5 different Kingdoms all doing their own things and interacting with each other whether you're there or not
Easily the best medieval sim I've ever seen
It's fuckin batshit how much detail there is
dry copper
I tried to fit my dog in a paper KFC bag. He was not having the doggie bag experience AT ALL
He ripped that shit APART
Speaking of KFC dogs that do not work....
raven frost
what is that
dry copper
KFC double down dog. Hotdog in a bun shaped chicken with what I don't even want to guess is on top as a sauce.
The only thing it is missing are fish flakes and beef bits. Then the debauchery is completed.
austere lance
I'm helping some random lady who's apparently the rightful heir to the Sultanate take the throne, so far we've converted three lords to our cause
This game gets intense, my little band of 74 soldiers almost ran into the Sultan's 200+ army so we booked it cuz his group is slower 💀
austere lance
It's a lot older and simpler than Bannerlord, lol
dry copper
I need to think of a new name for my character in Fallout 76
I've been wanting to change my name for months and can do it finally
but I have run out of ideas.
willow crypt
but I have run out of ideas.
Cooky ms Pooky
dry copper
I do enjoy cookies.
Spookies
Damn it. Someone already has the name Spookies
I used to have a character in Champions Online named Bonerow, that was an archer skeleton. It didn't even occur to me that someone might look at that name and go haha boner...ow
raven frost
but I have run out of ideas.
Dick Kickem
bronze wind
Scunchler
willow crypt
tit slinger
dry copper
I'm thinking of a word that means "of or pertaining to the past tense practice of confusing people".
Correction. I changed it a bit to mean "Of or pertaining to the act of confusing people"
I wonder how crazy dishonored 2 would've been with co-op
It's already crazy sp
The idea of co-op slow mo kill combos
winter yew
hmm... this looks.. familiar.. https://youtu.be/C44t_b9IQFg
dry copper
I like the art style, but I hate the linear gameplay
The story doesn't look compelling enough to push the linear narrative. That's for people that really enjoy that combat style gameplay
It's a game I think I'd like watching someone else play
winter yew
apparently it's only on Apple Arcade right now
dry copper
That's unfortunate.
winter yew
"According to the Bayonetta studio, World of Demons is an action game with “a magnificent visual style” inspired by Japanese ukiyo-e and sumi-e woodblock prints, similar to Capcom classic Okami, which was directed by Platinum co-founder Hideki Kamiya."
ok that makes more sense i guess
dry copper
I'm confused. Are they tacking on Hideki just to feed an algorithm on google? What's the point of throwing his name into the description if he's NOT even involved?
I really like that minimalistic fire graphic
It is stylish and presents for low pressure on a gpu
though their smoke particles completely undo all the savings from the low poly fire graphics
(still like it)
I would kill for a good teryaki chicken right about now
ty for the video....that is entertaining
austere lance
I wanna know what fucking bizarre math this game does to make lords join your cause or not
Like, five of em joined quick af but I'll ask other ones who are super agreeable and they'll say they're sorry but they can't break their oath 💀
"The Sultan is a douchebag and I agree with everything you're saying and stand for but I can't break my oath, now let's fight"
I've also learned that your luck can turn very very quickly and you can go from leading a rebellion from the front lines to hiding in a quiet country nursing your wound and trying to rebuild your army while avoiding bandits
@balmy plaza
Don't be dumb like me, I recommend going and being a vassal for the Rhodoks til you have high renown and 100+ troops
balmy plaza
Don't be dumb like me, I recommend going and being a vassal for the Rhodoks til ...
Oh I'm awful at strategy
I'll be even dumber haha
austere lance
It's ok, I knew nothing about anything when I started and I thought my 20 hobo army was lit. Then I got into the politics 💀
Now it's Game of Thrones
balmy plaza
I recall in Bannerlord I helped out in a war effort, and essentially repeatedly raided the same village lol
austere lance
Also I highly recommend learning good battle tactics. I'm a fan of sending in my wall of infantry to stop enemy momentum then coming around the side and doing this with my cavalry
And planting like 15 archers on a hill overlooking everything
Saranid Master Archers are the scariest things on the planet and absolutely worth the absurd amount they cost
I'll give you ez cheat sheet:
Khergit Khanate: Recruit for quick access to cavalry
Rhodoks: Recruit for quick access to good af crossbowmen or spearmen
Nords: Recruit for heavy infantry
Everything else is meh as far as I'm concerned
Tho if you can keep Saranids alive long enough to rank up to archers they're a terror on the battlefield
balmy plaza
Thanks for the advice!
I remember doing very minor battle tactics in warhammer total war 2, and that was really fun
broken prairie
nah fam in warhammer 2 u just Doomstack ez
screw balanced armies all my homies hate balanced armies
austere lance
@balmy plaza Win tournaments for ez Renown
Master the art of horse archery and do as many tournaments as possible in the Khanate, ez wins and tons of money if you bet on yourself
austere lance
My playthrough of Mount and Blade Warband will literally take me months at my current rate of progress 💀
Holy hell
cinder vessel
so i just watched a video on the latest Harvest Moon and...Wow, that game does not look good.
Like, it literally doesn't look good, and worse still, it seems like they didn't put much into...Any of it. You can ride a horse but there's no sound effects for the horse riding
crisp sparrow
that sucks
cinder vessel
You don't hear the horse hooves against the ground, there's no special tune to play for riding the horse, just...Nothing
And the map is terrible
crisp sparrow
milking the franchise too hard I see
cinder vessel
Like granted, I'm not an old Harvest Moon fan or anything, but daaamnnn, I feel for them
crisp sparrow
tfw a single guy makes a better game than a whole team
cinder vessel
On the plus side, the latest Story of Seasons seemed at least somewhat better...? Technical issues notwithstanding
I...Don't really know why I just watched videos on games in a genre i don't play much at all but 🤷♀️
crisp sparrow
Story of Seasons is better as the original people are working on it
but yeah I think they're also kinda out of touch
Mineral Town is a straight up remake of the old game with better graphics and some QoL but nothing majorly new
cinder vessel
Yeah, it at least looked visually better & some QOL vibes over Harvest Moon, but it still wasn't that much better
Pioneers of Olive Town is the one I just watched a video about
So it's the latest but it's like I said, somewhat better but not by a ton
crisp sparrow
I lowkey wanna play the DS Rune factory
oh god there's Rune Factory 5 for the switch and it looks awful
rigid haven
A lot of games look like that for the switch huh
Anyway if you wanna you could pick up Rune Factory 4 Special for the Switch
cinder vessel
woop, will u pick up a rune for me
rigid haven
Of course
crisp sparrow
A lot of games look like that for the switch huh
pretty sure there's better looking games on the same platform
BOTW being the prime example
rigid haven
Oh for SURE but yeah
There's a LOT of stuff that looks like this
It's a shame but ah well
crisp sparrow
yeah but I'd expect that from more indie titles, meanwhile Nintendo's biggest IP can't also bother (Pokemon)
cinder vessel
Of course
ty
I think Rune Factory would kinda fit in that in-between area, not indie but also not AAA, whatever you'd call that
rigid haven
AA or something
No idea
It's definitely not a first party title though yeah
Honestly like, I feel with things like this they should STOP SHOWING OFF THE ENVIRONMENT unless it's a super major part of the game
Ofc the world you're in is important in a game, but I mean more so the look of it- BOTW's world looks pretty because it's what you'll be focusing on most of the time
Same with odyssey, they're two games that NEED really really good level design
Games like RF are more farming-centric (or well, farming, dungeon crawling, combat, all that stuff) so less time is put into the world
This doesn't mean they can't put effort into the world, but they can focus on other things for sure
Stardew is great gameplay-wise, it's solid in the loops it contains, but while it looks good the world is TERRIBLY designed imo
Could just be going on a tangent though so dw about me
cinder vessel
i've not really played enough of stardew to get a sense for the world tbh
Rune Factory started giving me weird vibes the more i played and it had you using monsters for labor
crisp sparrow
stardew valley is great and also the only farming sim I've played longer than an hour
well
shadow tartan
silver sparrow
keen dome
Sound!
shadow tartan
charred badge
so I guess they're admitting that the story is just a delay?
oh, they're for farming finished missions
https://support.wotvffbe.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041798113-Saving-time-with-skip-tickets
dry copper
Education is fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnIGh9g6fA&list=PL848F2368C90DDC3D
crisp sparrow
ayy they added ore doubling in minecraft
Ores that are smeltable now drop raw item forms of the ore instead of the ore block and these can be smelted just like before
This is to prevent cluttering the inventory and have consistency with Fortune on all ores
Ore blocks from old worlds and silk-touched ore blocks will continue to be smeltable```latest snapshot
fortune 3 has a near guaranteed chance to drop two raw ores, and occasionally 3
wet warren
Nice
crisp sparrow
with this and the chance to find huge veins, I'll probably never make an iron farm lol
glass plinth
You know, my problem with minecraft is, I hadnt played it in ages, I dont even know how to do half the stuff in it
Lol, like echantments? What are those.
dry copper
So your problem with minecraft is minecraft.
glass plinth
Pretty much, to many mechanics and no clear paths
Its so easy to not know what to know
Im not going to spend a hour on a wiki either. I play games to learn on my own, but if something isnt discoverable, that just puts me at a huge disadvantage.
dry copper
One of the big problems with games that fans tote around "Don't handhold" is that while they don't handhold, they often also lack intuitive systems or any measure of ingame learning.
At least, in my experience.
Fans toting around this hand holding diatribe are like students exclaiming "school is easy", with no objective frame of reference or specificity.
glass plinth
Yeah then take Valheim
It doesnt persay handhold. It just makes clear when you discover something.
That way you have a sense of your progress.
Frankly its immensely useful
dry copper
It also makes it clear the process for discovery is exploration
glass plinth
No tutorial, just simple messages.
Man, that first time I ran into obsidian, I want so excited!
dry copper
Valheim doesn't punish you for experimenting
glass plinth
It sure doesnt
dry copper
In Outward if you experiment, you get crafted garbage
glass plinth
With more elements to experiment with coming up, itll be really fun
dry copper
and wasted resources
glass plinth
You know I compare Outward and Valheim alot
In some ways Valheim feels like a toned down Outward.
With building.
I do love outward
In its out quirky way.
dry copper
Outward feels like a story of crafted constipation
How to make shit and never get it done at the same time
How to get from point A to point B and feel like you never got anywhere
Get to B, they send you back to A to get C, to go back to B to hand in C so A can come to B for C and D
All the while you've been getting the D the whole time
After playing three players in Outward for a couple weeks, I can honestly say a part of me hates it.
crisp sparrow
Im not going to spend a hour on a wiki either. I play games to learn on my own, ...
there's no need anymore - the game will explain the very beginning (that you should punch a tree for wood) and then you're just free to explore whatever
when you get an item you get recipes that relate to it
enchantments are easy, once you build the enchanting table you can clearly tell that it takes an input and lapis gems
enchantments are easy, once you build the enchanting table you can clearly tell that it takes an input and lapis gems
broken prairie
the shape is there yes
glass plinth
I guess
crisp sparrow
I dont think you'd enjoy it solo
its kind of a social experience when you play it the first time
glass plinth
Well, I do play Valheim solo and NMS solo.
crisp sparrow
Minecraft came from that very particular moment where that sort of thing was its plus point
its now aged poorly compared to other games
glass plinth
Yeah, a few games are taking the good parts of minecraft and blended in new methods that I test
crisp sparrow
its whole deal was about experimentation with friends and then spreading that info to others
dry copper
Imagine how much better minecraft would've been if the voxels were spheres instead of boxes.
crisp sparrow
that wiki thing was the main driving fun of the game lol
teaching others what you learnt from it
glass plinth
I cant imagine what the public will think of one of the games Im currently testing. Its a huge organic world, where what you plant affects how the wold grows. I love that. Building has a long ways to go.
crisp sparrow
that reminds me I should check up on Kynseed
dry copper
Plant a tree, get a lumber mill owned by a shell corporation that flattens thousands of acres
glass plinth
Well imagine a dead island, you arrives, and you collect ancient seeds. As you regrow the island, the forests and such come back. However each playthrough the island can be completely different.
crisp sparrow
oh nice its at 0.2 now
glass plinth
The biomes are more living systems.
The big difference is, you will die, the world will die.
So you pass on your essense to the next generation and they grow the island, so you experience the cycle over and over
Pretty much endless replay
dry copper
You will die. You know you will, but still spend your life making it easier for anyone living after you to die as well.
crisp sparrow
wait arent you explaining kynseed
glass plinth
Nah, different game
crisp sparrow
nvm its similar but different
glass plinth
Got picked up by a major game fund too! Im super exicted.
crisp sparrow
kynseed is also about family generations, the char you start with will age in real time and die
glass plinth
How is that game
dry copper
Funded by a company that will strip it of it's artistic integrity?
glass plinth
Never played it
crisp sparrow
so having children is important as that's whom you play as
its super early access, I wouldn't recommend it right now
crisp sparrow
game is very janky and empty right now
glass plinth
No, the game fund is a hands off support group. They have techs and supporters for your company, but zero oversight for development
A few of those are popping up lately
crisp sparrow
dev team involved are the same peeps who did the Fable series, iirc
dry copper
I really hate all these social games are single player
At least make MP an option...even if it's jank af
crisp sparrow
Kynseed is a sandbox life sim RPG brought to you by developers who worked on the Fable series for Lionhead Studios.
glass plinth
Wait.. mumble? I just realized who you were, you had that old profile pic for so long.
crisp sparrow
which social game?
dry copper
right now I'm looking at Kynseed on steam
I've been looking at social games for a while, but always check if it's single player or mp for people to play with
crisp sparrow
but social implies multiplayer
dry copper
Kynseed looks like it would be great mp, like Stardew
crisp sparrow
how can a social game be single player
dry copper
Social experiments are social even if you're doing them alone
crisp sparrow
kynseed will likely get co-op
but not anything bigger than that, really doubt they'd manage all those aging mechanics with 4 players
dry copper
I really like the music in kynseed
It's got a Tim Burton feel to it
only thing kynseed seems to be missing is a decay system for houses and the environment
No reason your house doesn't die 😛
It's too bad Kynseed isn't updated more. Looking at the "recent news" is very disheartening
"Recent" being relative, as it's dated October 17th, 2020
glass plinth
I get the strange feeling, its not.
I get a feeling with some of the recent updates its going to have a major shift
I mite be wrong
However, Id agree in its current state its mostly done.
dry copper
hmmm. Ranch Simulator
golden gull
https://youtu.be/7aDpCIDYDc8 Felt this belonged here.
crisp sparrow
"Recent" being relative, as it's dated October 17th, 2020
Oh wow wtf, they used to write kinda regularly
Last post on Oct 2020
Hmm looks like something happened, even the updates were regular but stopped around that time
Then started back on March
I was in the server for a while too, the devs would be online pretty regularly
glass plinth
Youve probably noticed a lot of small studios are slowing down with information
crisp sparrow
I don't check out that many to take such notice, I'm only keeping in touch with NMS and Minecraft
dry copper
I just wanted my multiplayer batman game damn it
I wanted to punch Jim Gordons daughter in the face repeatedly in co-op accidents
Accidentally nut Nightwing with a batarang
Oops, "accidentally" shot robin in the head with "rubber" bullets
austere lance
I spent way too much effort trying to marry a noblewoman but her brother hates me so it was never gonna happen, then I jokingly hit on a different one and her brother approved 💀
This fucking game is Game of Thrones without the sex, I swear
rigid haven
Bro just elope
austere lance
She wouldn't cuz she loyal to her family 😭
rigid haven
Start your own kingdom with a queen of your choosing and WIPE EVERYONE OUT it's the only way to play (the only way)
Fuck
austere lance
@glass plinth Have you played Mount and Blade, I feel like you'd love it 😆
austere lance
It's a dirty trap that stole my soul 😭
glass plinth
Right now, NMS and Genshin own me. Until kerbals 2 comes out
Then you guys wont see me for 5 years.
I already started planning out the big ships I plan to build using the large scale nuclear drives
The Versita will probably be my first. I designed it back in kerbals, but due to the game lacking quite as robust a in space construction system, it was a difficult project.
With the inclusion of VABS in space, space stations and on planets, should be able to streamline the processs.
cinder vessel
I already started planning out the big ships I plan to build using the large sca...
since i'm skimming i'd already forgotten the context and thought this was related to Mount & Blade and was like wait what, what relationship with a person involves building nukes? lmao
glass plinth
In game time it took maybe 230 hours to build that beast.
Hahahahahaa
Yeah, not exactly the same game Leon.
Bah, I wish I had a 3d printer, Id print the Versita out.
It would be one hell of a print job
Still cant believe how far the graphics engine came
Those clouds are bonkers
marsh cypress
@cobalt shell im a bit interested in your argument, why do you feel consoles should not exist?
cobalt shell
With a pc you can simply upgrade what you need
glass plinth
Hrmm
marsh cypress
true, thats why i play on pc
glass plinth
That mite be true from a hardware standpoint. However from a developer standpoint consoles are cheaper to develop for because they share a core architecture. Its cheaper to develop for and cheaper for the end user.
marsh cypress
but all those are just arguments as to why, in your opinion, PC is better, not about why consoles shouldnt exist
cobalt shell
That mite be true from a hardware standpoint. However from a developer standpoin...
But they have to develop on pc too
glass plinth
Truthfully, both models are viable and have a reason to exist.
True, but those are both different development branches entirely
The costs to develop for pc are far higher.
cobalt shell
Only because of customers
marsh cypress
well, as i see it, consoles and PC caters to two different crowds
for the most part
glass plinth
Not all customers would benefit from owning a pc, for numerous reasons.
cobalt shell
How much do you pay yearly to play xbox or ps online?
glass plinth
Nothing.
marsh cypress
i dont pay anything, i dont play on those consoles
i do however pay like, 20 bucks to play switch online
glass plinth
Ideally with say Xbox, you can get a years xbox pass for 100 bucks or less.
glass plinth
Much less to access software then say the average pc gamers game budget
cobalt shell
After 3 years thats 300 bucks
marsh cypress
still cheaper than netflix
glass plinth
nods
cobalt shell
300 bucks uou could spend on upgrading your pc
glass plinth
Much cheaper then a pc gamer.
cobalt shell
So consoles are more expensive in the long term
marsh cypress
you assume the average person would be able to upgrade a pc
glass plinth
Not really
marsh cypress
plus, with a PC comes a whole boatload of more work, compared to just plugging in the console and playing
glass plinth
The cost to buy games for a console or services, is less then the cost to buy games for pc and all the pc upgrades
pc are much more expensive, save in some edge cases.
marsh cypress
still tho, you still havent said why you think consoles shouldnt exist
cobalt shell
On pc you can do other stuff too
glass plinth
He basically is saying consoles arent cost viable.
Yet int he end, the argument is null and void.
marsh cypress
i do not believe any argument is null or void
glass plinth
Well from a practical economics standpoint
Idealistically, your right.
Personally Im a pc user.
marsh cypress
the way i see it, without consoles we probably wouldnt have gaming as good as we do now
yeah, me too
glass plinth
I havent had a console since the ps4
However, the reason I have a pc is servers
When you factor end user experience, costs and what a person is trying to attain, the console if a person is looking for a set of features can be cheaper. Whereas, other users a pc can be cheaper
All depends on the end users goal
marsh cypress
also, ive had my PC for about 10 years, and ive spent more than double on upgrades than the price of a PS4 and PS5 combined
marsh cypress
yeah
glass plinth
My last upgrade was.. sheesh ages ago
cobalt shell
Not a console performance pc
coarse swift
I'd like a pc i don't feel the need to upgrade for 10 years
glass plinth
I think if I were only going to use a system to game, the console route would be best. Yet, I use PC's for other features, so its cost effective.
It would all depends on my end goals.
glass plinth
Plus I do mods
marsh cypress
my point is, as long as there are users willing to pay, consoles are not oboslete
cobalt shell
I have no control over my games. I cant add mods
glass plinth
Yup, now in the future PC's will be obsoleetes well.
marsh cypress
i mean, i can see your point, i love mods, i love 60FPS, i love better graphics
but i can also see the appeal of just, plugging in and start playing
glass plinth
Eventually the concept of a PC, will mean nothing, once most everything is streamed and decentralized. That may take decades to occur.
cobalt shell
If it wasnt for the whole out of stock thing
Pc would be worth it
Now it isnt worth it
marsh cypress
just buy used
glass plinth
Hrmm, or find a supplier
cobalt shell
Its too expensive now
marsh cypress
i just got a gtx 1070 for 200 bucks
glass plinth
But I can buy at cost
cobalt shell
Also they spend resources producing console parts instead of pc parts
Its only hurting the gamers
glass plinth
Nice buy Torks!
marsh cypress
come one, even the automotive industry is lacking resources
its not consoles fault
cobalt shell
They can use the dame chip makers to make pc parts
marsh cypress
diferent chip makers
cobalt shell
Nvidia doesnt produce eveything on their own
marsh cypress
the new cards use a new architecture that consoles doesnt use
marsh cypress
now you are just being silly
glass plinth
90 percent of the problem is technical anyways. We have the price issues because of you shrek.
cobalt shell
Consoles are the reason we are suffering from this pandemic
cobalt shell
Consoles caused all wars
marsh cypress
"COVID came because you are always on that nintendo" -some mom, probably
glass plinth
My mom was a gamer...
cobalt shell
Consoles suck
marsh cypress
i like em
glass plinth
Bless her, she really did love gaming.
cobalt shell
You cant even play world of warcraft on it
marsh cypress
why would i ever want to play that game tho
glass plinth
LOL!
marsh cypress
wow suck
marsh cypress
it costs like, 100 dollars a year
glass plinth
As some who helped build the original wow as a alpha tester I take issue with that comment Torsk. As someone who recently played it though in its current form, I agree
marsh cypress
tbf, i basically only play MMO's on private servers these days
marsh cypress
also, i dont have a problem with wow itself, its more the gameplay
cobalt shell
Wotlk and legion are good expansions
marsh cypress
i need something where i feel more engaged
glass plinth
The only MMOish game I play anymore is Genshin. The last proper mmo i played was Black Desert Online. I lost interest in MMOrpgs though.
marsh cypress
like, i like black desert
cobalt shell
What about metin2
marsh cypress
i still play runescape tho
glass plinth
I loved BDO because of the Strategy elements. I really enjoyed that.
marsh cypress
probably the oldest MMO i still play
glass plinth
Hrmm, I did enjoy ESO as well
marsh cypress
never really got into that
cobalt shell
Nvidia disgusts me
glass plinth
However, right now, Im mostly playing Valheim and No Mans Sky.
cobalt shell
Yes
glass plinth
Hahah
marsh cypress
yeah, thats pretty scummy
cobalt shell
Miners are their new customers
glass plinth
Yeah, as much as I love the gpu, its all a mess and it will never go away.
marsh cypress
the whole 3000 series launch was a disaster
im just glad i play on 1080p 60fps, i dont need a 3000 card
cobalt shell
Also nvidia and other companies were caught multiple times driving prices up together
cobalt shell
Their shareholders and people running the company dont even care about technology its all about money to them
glass plinth
Im probably going to switch out my 5700xt end of year for a 6700xt. Simply because I have a supplier
marsh cypress
funny thing is, i can probably sell my old 1060 for more than i paid for the 1070
there is not a single card available in my country
glass plinth
They do care about tech Shrek. The tech is built to make money though.
However the market pushes it
cobalt shell
Their tech is used for mining
glass plinth
Companies dont have much choice when it comes to that.
cobalt shell
Instead of the real stuff
marsh cypress
at the end of the day, thats all they are after, just like pretty much any other business
glass plinth
That is real stuff, since real people mine
No one can debate, the end good, ends up being used.
Who and how isnt really in there control, nor will it ever be.
marsh cypress
i gotta say, i really enjoy this conversation
marsh cypress
i cant wait for the day when all gaming is streamed
glass plinth
Aye, really is the way things are heading.
marsh cypress
no more console vs pc, no more buying expensive parts, just stream that stuff
cobalt shell
Every town will need servers
glass plinth
Eventually it will really depends on what device you have and your connection.
cobalt shell
For low ping
marsh cypress
meh, i played through the entirety of cyberpunk on geforce now, closest server was in another country, had no issues
oh damn
cobalt shell
Starlink is not worth it unless you live somewhere with really slow internet
marsh cypress
is it fast?
cobalt shell
Nice
glass plinth
Im actually impressed with it. I got 120mbs, 3ms
cobalt shell
How much did you pay
marsh cypress
dang, thats pretty good for broadband
glass plinth
I didnt, my friend has it out in the country by me.
He paid 450 for hardware, and i think its 70 per month
So really, nothing terrible
The hardware costs are coming down too.
cobalt shell
No i mean the streamed game
glass plinth
Still working out kinks
cobalt shell
How much is it per month
And how many games do you get
Streamed is useless for me
marsh cypress
6,38 dollars a month for me
glass plinth
My friend used stadia for Cyberpunk.
cobalt shell
I wanna modify my games
marsh cypress
and i got a good chunk
well, you cant mod it unfortunately
but my pc couldnt handle cyberpunk
cobalt shell
My 1060 3gb maxq could handle is on medium
marsh cypress
plus, i mean, not all games support modding
glass plinth
Yeah, modding will be one reason PC's stick around until we have Cloud drivers which operate like a computer prober
marsh cypress
i think my issue was more my CPU i think
marsh cypress
my screen is only 60 hz, so i dont need that much
cobalt shell
Consoles are communist
marsh cypress
i just upgraded CPU
cobalt shell
glass plinth
Oh? To what? A 3600?
glass plinth
Not a hard choice
cobalt shell
Guys is liver paste good for cpu?
marsh cypress
i would recommend plain old toothpaste
glass plinth
Ok, I need to go guys, time to edit a article lol
cobalt shell
Ok thanks bro
marsh cypress
have a good one
marsh cypress
well, i should probably go too, i got classes tomorrow, and its already past midnight
cobalt shell
I gotta represent programs i made
Makes me wanna quit because i hate writting
Even if its on keyboard
marsh cypress
i would honestly much rather write words than code
cobalt shell
And when our exam is on paper
shadow tartan
cobalt shell
Ewww
marsh cypress
well, that just seems archaic
cobalt shell
I failed an exam 3 times because i write slow on paper
I hate that class because of that
marsh cypress
why are they making you write on paper?
marsh cypress
wait, it has "digital" in the name
marsh cypress
i heard that greece writes code on paper, hands it to someone else who types it in a computer, and the tells them if it works
shadow tartan
@fleet moat https://youtu.be/gUhRKVIjJtw
cobalt shell
Im studying in Greece
marsh cypress
oh damn
marsh cypress
nice
cobalt shell
I failed writing ones because i write slow
I passed the pc one
Its stupid
I didnt come to study writing
marsh cypress
it does seem a bit counter intuitive
marsh cypress
boy im glad for my educational system, i havent written on paper for school for 7 years
cobalt shell
If im going to engineer computers just for people to use only paper
Imma just ditch this completely
cobalt shell
boy im glad for my educational system, i havent written on paper for school for ...
The education system in Greece is too strict
In my study the average graduation time is 7.5 years
cobalt shell
5
marsh cypress
damn
cobalt shell
To pass programming 1 i had to get 5+ on quizes pass all 3 projects and pass all 10 labs
Then do a lab exam too
cobalt shell
I simply failed 1 quiz because they said the class wouldnt happen because of protests
C
Imagine C on paper
wanton bough
i refuse to imagine that
marsh cypress
i dont want to
shadow tartan
The education system in Greece is too strict
Pure malakas
marsh cypress
that sounds horrible
cobalt shell
The last exam was online without a compiler
cobalt shell
Pure malakas
Indeed pure malakia
wanton bough
holy shit
marsh cypress
btw
cobalt shell
I passed
wanton bough
nice
marsh cypress
did you see StackOverflows april fools?
wanton bough
did you see StackOverflows april fools?
was it the limited copy paste thing
marsh cypress
they basically said "you have used your daily free copy paste"
wanton bough
yeah
cobalt shell
Wait to hear about the worst part
I got 55/100 on an assignment and i need 70 to pass
And the professor told me that my program crashes and that i need to use the test tools they told me about
I used them all and everything was 100% fine the compiler said
I used valgrind too
My program had no crashes on windows 10 and linux
And no problems from the test tools
Wtf
I just gave up
wanton bough
also why c as a language
cobalt shell
Its a medium level language
wanton bough
yeah but anything with OOP would be better
cobalt shell
It also helps you understand stuff better
C is useful for learning
Also its used for low level stuff
wanton bough
yeah but like why not c++, there are obvious differences but at least c++ has classes
cobalt shell
If i learned C++ or java i wouldnt learn alot of stuff that i learned on C
marsh cypress
the education was only 2,5 years long
cobalt shell
Ah im studying electrical and computer engineering its 2 majors
wanton bough
i taught myself all the coding stuff
marsh cypress
well, in danish its called "Datamatiker"
i guess its like computer science or something
wanton bough
well like 2 years ago i did this week long summer python camp thing that just taught the basics like print() and input() and shit
worked with python for a long time
even made a discord bot
marsh cypress
ive actually never touched python
cobalt shell
Try data structures and memory allocation on C
wanton bough
fuck multithreading
cobalt shell
On C?
wanton bough
legit
cobalt shell
C++
marsh cypress
C#
cobalt shell
Lol
wanton bough
either way i hate it
cobalt shell
Im gonna learn that next year i think isk
Idk
Or we already did but i missed the classes
wanton bough
for some reason c++ wasn't sleeping on the right thread, and just doing it at the beginning of the program even though it was called in a thread that didn't even exist
cobalt shell
On our first programming class we had to remake all the libraries on our own using binary
And drivers
wanton bough
g++ wasn't calling an error
marsh cypress
We made battleships running in command prompt
cobalt shell
Technically it is on C kind of
wanton bough
you could technically do it in machine code but at that level just use assembly
marsh cypress
well, i really gotta get some sleep, its been nice talking
cobalt shell
Btw on the exam i forgot what << does on a code
Idk why
It was like the easy part of the test
wanton bough
i only know << and >> from cout and cin
wanton bough
wait does c even have cout or is it just printf
wanton bough
alright i figured
cobalt shell
You gotta play with pointers to do such stuff
wanton bough
luckily i haven't really explored stuff that needs me to do that
cobalt shell
To scan you need the address of the variable
If its a string you dont have to
Do you have to NULL a string on c++ or c#?
And also leave the last spot as NULL to mark the end of the string?
cobalt shell
On C to make a string you first set all the array to NULL to make sure you dont have a random value inside
And then you leave the last spot as NULL to use it as the end of the string
When you print a string on C it prints until it finds NULL
wanton bough
c++ strings are managed char arrays basically, so you just declare the string like either cout << "hello"; or std::string x = "words here"
cobalt shell
If it checks for NULL outside the string it could have a random value from another variable in that address
So you need to reserve the last spot on the char array as NULL
C++ probably does that for you instead
wanton bough
it does
cobalt shell
Its one of the reasons why you learn C
Its to understand how stuff work
Assembly and C are good for that
wanton bough
well it depends on if you want to know literally everything about how something works or if you just want to make projects
cobalt shell
Did you learn SDL on c++?
wanton bough
i tried touching it a few times but it gave me a shit ton of compiler errors because apparently the libraries just kinda weren't working and all the built-in functions decided to stop existing
cobalt shell
I started learning SDL on c/c++ on my own but i stopped to finish a project
How much did you learn?
cobalt shell
I just got to the part were you make images go behind or front of other images
Its like the first step of making a 2d game i guess
wanton bough
the only reason i started learning c++ is because i wanted to make like an actual graphical game but every single game engine in python fucking sucks
wanton bough
probably not
cobalt shell
I got SDL2
wanton bough
it was on a chromebook running linux and vs code
using a phone hotspot cause i was in the car
cobalt shell
Bruh
wanton bough
yeah
cobalt shell
Where are you from?
wanton bough
arizona
cobalt shell
North part?
wanton bough
yeah
wanton bough
there's actually not really that many cacti and stuff around main cities
and bushes rolling is just from movies
cobalt shell
Im from Cyprus
wanton bough
nice
wanton bough
yeah
cobalt shell
I havent done it for a while
wanton bough
i'm not sure if strings would actually be managed if you didn't include any of the libraries that use string.h
cobalt shell
"Actually, you do not place the null character at the end of a string constant. The C++ compiler automatically places the '\0' at the end of the string when it initializes the array. Let us try to print above-mentioned string −"
cobalt shell
If you mske a char array you have to manually dynamically allocate memory right?
If you just use strings it does it for you
wanton bough
i haven't actually used char arrays before but i'm pretty sure you have to
cobalt shell
On c++
wanton bough
yeah
i was reading on the difference between each one and i remember seeing that char arrays need to be managed
but std::string just does it for you
thorn dawn
it depends what you want to do with it/how big
you can allocate strings/char arrays on the stack, but the stack has finite size - 8mb iirc, for the entire program
cobalt shell
You gotta make it read 1 char at a time for a dynamic char array i think
thorn dawn
if it goes on the stack, it's also local to the function
but upside is, you don't need to clean up stack allocations explicitly like you do heap
wanton bough
yeah i remember hearing from a lot of people like "if you go straight from python to c++ it'll be really hard" but that's only if you think about stuff in like c++98 style and not modern c++
thorn dawn
if it's short lived and small, most of the time allocating on the stack is fine, save allocating on the heap for long lived things that get passed around, or are big
bronze wind
strings are typically null-terminated in c/++ (ends in \0) so that's the nuance you work with if you try to use raw char arrays to represent strings
wanton bough
i'm gonna go look in string.h to see if it automatically puts the null in there or does something else
thorn dawn
if you're writing anything non-trivial too, throw malloc in the bin
go learn talloc or something
cobalt shell
Wait if i use realloc for dynamic string i have to set the last spot of the char array to NULL again?
On C
thorn dawn
you should always initialise memory you malloc/realloc
bronze wind
if you're using a char array as a string then yeah you need to null terminate everything
thorn dawn
the values it comes with aren't defined - the compiler could put your credit card number in there and it'd be allowed
cobalt shell
So i can just do lol[size]= '\0'
bronze wind
pretty much, just keep in mind you have to tack on an extra char to store the null terminator
thorn dawn
or, use calloc() - calloc() zero's memory
cobalt shell
I forgot the difference between realloc and calloc
wanton bough
the only time i used malloc ever was to make a program that tries to allocate more memory than exists which will instantly cause an error or get shut down by the os if it manages to run
dry copper
cobalt shell
the only time i used malloc ever was to make a program that tries to allocate mo...
You use realloc to allocate more memory
cobalt shell
You first use malloc
I think
You dont need malloc for realloc
Maybe malloc is used for readability
At first
And then you realloc to re allocate more
The no mans sky developers watching this being like "peasants"
wanton bough
Using no extra libraries
and obviously all in one file
bronze wind
yeah malloc is for the initial allocation and realloc handles the logic for taking a pointer and changing the allocated space for it while maintaining the contents
if you pass NULL to realloc it's just a malloc
cobalt shell
Will my professor dislike it if i realloc without malloc
Lol
For readability purposes
bronze wind
lol they will probably not be happy
cobalt shell
Shiet
wanton bough
the only reason i actually started learning c++ in the first place is because c# needs the .net framework to run programs which is fucking stupid
cobalt shell
She told us to do a dynamic pointer struct array
bronze wind
it's not a big deal (maybe slightly slower since there are checks that are done for realloc, but no idea what that benchmark would be)
cobalt shell
And i did a dynamic structs of records array
Something like that
I assumed the pointer i used in the 2 structs counted ad a pointer array maybe
wanton bough
next year i'm gonna take a javascript class for the easy grade and i can just already imagine myself going off of muscle memory and accidentally write shit in c++ or python
cobalt shell
Take C class for masochism
wanton bough
they only have javascript
bronze wind
oof
wanton bough
this is a high school in america where more than half the kids wouldn't know what RAM is if you gave them a wikipedia article
bronze wind
probably verify game files via steam lol
cobalt shell
Yeah i will
bronze wind
tbf my high school didn't offer any coding classes
cobalt shell
My gpu was undervolted during the crash
wanton bough
that'll do it
bronze wind
i also dropped out after sophomore year so
wanton bough
also you're wrong, best way to learn how everything works is to make a 16 bit cpu in minecraft
the map came with a .txt showing the entire instruction set and everything
dry copper
It's video
wanton bough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyK73JMdiNg
i have a personal goal of eliminating the .net framework eventually
bronze wind
oh yeah I had a digital logic class and we had to make a basic CPU and load it onto an FPGA and test our custom instruction set
wanton bough
oh yeah I had a digital logic class and we had to make a basic CPU and load it o...
what grade was this
bronze wind
had to implement all of the individual components in VHDL and build up to it lol
it was in college
cobalt shell
oh yeah I had a digital logic class and we had to make a basic CPU and load it o...
Digital design?
wanton bough
oh
cobalt shell
We use verilog
bronze wind
yeah
cobalt shell
Isnt verilog and VHDL used for the same purpose?
wanton bough
i'd say i know a lot more about computers than the average person but i still know basically nothing
cobalt shell
Just different languages
dry copper
I'm told I can sell my digital planners on the internet and that people will buy them. I'm like...no...are they stupid?...Why buy a digital planner you can make yourself?
wanton bough
also which IDE do you use
wanton bough
oh
dry copper
Presumably not everyone can or wants to make a digital planner.
bronze wind
the dumbest explanation I can give is verilog is more like C and VHDL is more like assembly
cobalt shell
the dumbest explanation I can give is verilog is more like C and VHDL is more li...
Shiet
Ew
wanton bough
i use visual studio for c++ and shit since it comes with MSVC but anything else i just use vs code
bronze wind
that's a horrible description tho honestly
cobalt shell
What do you think of cygwin for C ?
bronze wind
vhdl is just more complicated since it abstracts over not much lol
cobalt shell
I wanted something similar to linux
bronze wind
better off with WSL if you're on windows
wanton bough
that's for c++ not c
wanton bough
better off with WSL if you're on windows
holy fuck apt is allowed to use no bandwidth whatsoever in WSL
it's like 300 kb/s when i have so much higher than that in any other program
bronze wind
yeah i have noticed it's a bit slower lol
luckily most packages aren't that large
depending on what you're doing ofc
wanton bough
largest i've seen was only 7 gigabytes downloaded and then extracts into 16 gigs
cobalt shell
I cant move games on other drivers on steam anymore?
I wanna move no mans sky on my ssd
wanton bough
weird
bronze wind
Idk what sort of limitations Steam has but it should be possible
cobalt shell
windows 10
bronze wind
just go into steam -> right click -> properties -> local files -> move install folder
cobalt shell
for linux i use a virtual machine
cobalt shell
just go into steam -> right click -> properties -> local files -> move install f...
not an option look