nms-modding

[night adder]

Orange

And don't get me started on white lmao.

[steel crypt]

And the "trim" is always either silver or gold right? 2 choices?

[night adder]

Yep

[steel crypt]

Okay, I have the answer....

one sec.

They are not textures that are being proc colored using a palette. The ship is built using proc choices for pre-colored textures.
This file is where they are called from. If you wanted there to be more/different colors, you would have to make more textures and add them as choices to this file or you could make one of the choices or make only one choice that proc colors a texture from a palette. @night adder @vale iron

[vale iron]

I was meaning to decompile that mod that changes up the exotic colors. What's interesting is that mod supposedly affects the MTs as well, which would be odd

[steel crypt]

Notice this in the file:
<Property name="Palette" value="Rock" /> <Property name="ColourAlt" value="None" />
That is a palette that is used for proc coloring, but the "None" in ColourAlt indicates it will not use a color from that palette for proc coloring. If "Alternative1" was used (or some other choices) it would then use that palette color to color the texture.

My guess is that it uses the same textures.

[vale iron]

Ohhhh that answers so much

There are so many places I saw colouralt none

But if it doesn't use it, why is it there at all? Or is that one of those HG mysteries?

[steel crypt]

Now you can make it use color palette and recolor it. The above "rock" and "none" is the default values before altered. Basically ....not in use.

It's just there is a struct for proc textures and it can be used for calling a palette or not. It can also be used in this case to pick from different textures.

[vale iron]

This weekend I really may have to look into proc coloring for my freighters. Imagine a red harrower

[steel crypt]

It's not hard to do once you know how. It's easier than you think. The only real issue is knowing some things like how the texture you are using will affect the saturation of the palette color. Past that pretty easy.

Can prob show you all you need to know in like 5-10 mins.

[night adder]

I'd love that - honestly, 1 example is all I care about, silver trim w/ red.

[steel crypt]

What are you saying? You want there to be one choice of color and that is red with silver trim?

Or you're wanting to save edit a color for your ship?

[night adder]

Modding is completely outside my wheelhouse, as is most coding. So the json entry to force red + silver on 1 ship slot is all I'd really use.

[steel crypt]

I don't know if you can do that considering it is a texture choice not a palette color choice. I don't think you can pick textures in a save?

But I don't know save editing so....

[night adder]

But I'll be passing that exml and the explanation youve given over to Mjstral who can hopefully use it to get the brute force bot to show royal coliur properly

[vale iron]

Yeah since it's not a palette, I don't know if you can use an override like that

[night adder]

Ye, there's a texture field in customization slots

[steel crypt]

Probably easiest by editing the seed to be the one you want?

[night adder]

Copy/paste the red + silver exml entry?

[steel crypt]

Oh, okay, then look at the file above. Is it listed like those names for the textures?

[night adder]

Silver trim caps at 431 maneuvering, I wanna be able to use a higher gold trim seed and force silver

[steel crypt]

Show me how it looks in the save

If it's possible to save edit it then you won't have issues of recoloring other ships or multitools.

[night adder]

Dont have that on my phone, shall send in 10-15min

Actually is likely
"Textures":[]

[steel crypt]

All good I'll look for it. I just don't have a save editor or know where the hell to look for it. Never done that stuff really except one minor easy thing for a test I was doing.

[night adder]

Iirc all the fields had same format

[steel crypt]

Oh, like it's currently blank?

[night adder]

Uep

Yep*

[steel crypt]

hmmm interesting

[night adder]

It forces override of natural procgen for ship associated with slot

This is what forced colour on normal ships looks like

[steel crypt]

right that makes sense to me. there is a similar section with textures I assume then.

[night adder]

Yes, right below colors

[steel crypt]

Okay when you could get to it, I would like to see the Royal ship color section and the texture section. From a vanilla unaltered Royal ship.

[night adder]

Unobtainable on ps4 save

[steel crypt]

?

[night adder]

This section of json is linked to all player colour customization, so vehicle, outfit, and freighter custom data as well, it doesnt display anything natural

And all sections of json labelled ship only cover the data for class, slots, layout, inventory, stat rolls - the seed is the only thing it shows that relates to colur

[steel crypt]

I'm confused. So that color list (in one list) shows all colors for player collectibles? So how do you know where to put something for a ship vs a outfit etc. Like what order?

[night adder]

Trial and error, custom slots 3-8 are linked to ship slots 0-5 in sequence

[steel crypt]

I see.

So, is there anything at all listed in the texture section?

[night adder]

Nope, all fields in all slots are blank until you either edit rhem manually, or use Appearance Modifier, Exocraft Customizer, or Freighter Paint in-gam3

[steel crypt]

Is there a structure there and it has no values in it, or is there literally a blank screen like no text at all?

[vale iron]

It's blank

[]

[steel crypt]

F.... okay how do we know what to put for a structure lol?

[vale iron]

I think we don't :( one of the fancy people might be able to figure out the correct formatting by looking at the exe or something

[steel crypt]

I just don't do the save editing, so I think I'm missing some context that would answer this stuff.
Okay ouch yeah.

[vale iron]

Wait I found something

Backpack texture options

[steel crypt]

ahh ha okay

[vale iron]

Those look like options for a particular texture, not textures themselves

[steel crypt]

umm i'm guessing maybe different textures...one sec

[vale iron]

Back on my phone, can't see that :(

[steel crypt]

I think maybe the above textureoptiongroupname would be in this case the group name of the proc choice in the texture file.
<Data template="TkProceduralTextureList"> <Property name="Layers"> <Property value="TkProceduralTextureLayer.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="OVERLAYMETAL" />

so overlaymetal would be the group name

[vale iron]

Makes sense

[steel crypt]

this:
<Property name="Textures"> <Property value="TkProceduralTexture.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="SILVER" />

and this:

<Property value="TkProceduralTexture.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="GOLD" />

are sections of choices under "overlaymetal"

[vale iron]

Layer is the first entry and texture name is the second, maybe?

[steel crypt]

I think that might be "textureoptionname" in the save?

[vale iron]

Looks like a really good guess

[night adder]

I'll try it out and report back

[vale iron]

Please do. I was going to have to try in the morning if you didn't :)

[steel crypt]

because in the above example you can see a choice being named "1" and that is a common name to add to textures...like hat.1.dds hat.2.dds etc.

[vale iron]

That's too much typing for 'it works' ;)

[night adder]

Makes sense to me, because the opinion of a guy who's clueless about the subject matter carries so much weight - am makin coffee, then itll take a few minutes to pull a save from ps4, edit, and replace lol

[vale iron]

Oh haha, makes sense

[steel crypt]

wait i'm wrong

[vale iron]

Damnit Jason! You're fired!

[steel crypt]

lol look at this:

<Property value="TkProceduralTextureLayer.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="MARKINGS" /> <Property name="Probability" value="1" /> <Property name="Group" value="BACKPACK" /> <Property name="SelectToMatchBase" value="False" /> <Property name="Textures"> <Property value="TkProceduralTexture.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="BACKPACK_2" /> <Property name="Palette" value="TkPaletteTexture.xml"> <Property name="Palette" value="Custom_Backpack" /> <Property name="ColourAlt" value="Alternative1" /> </Property>

this is in a backpack texture mbin

see how the group name is the groupname in the save

[vale iron]

So group is the first entry, procedural texture is the second?

[steel crypt]

the "name" of the option in the group "backpack_2" is the "textureoptionname" in the save

I can't see the (it's cut off) top of that json in the backpack pic.

[vale iron]

Hold on, I'll go get it

[steel crypt]

But according to the texture mbin ROYALSCLASS_TRIM.TEXTURE, the group is"" (nothing)

<Property name="Layers"> <Property value="TkProceduralTextureLayer.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="OVERLAYMETAL" /> <Property name="Probability" value="1" /> <Property name="Group" value="" /> <Property name="SelectToMatchBase" value="False" /> <Property name="Textures">

<Property value="TkProceduralTexture.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="SILVER" /> <Property name="Palette" value="TkPaletteTexture.xml"> <Property name="Palette" value="Rock" /> <Property name="ColourAlt" value="None" /> </Property>

[vale iron]

A slightly different one from farther in the save, same format though

The armor entry might give more insight, but I can't look into it tonight

[steel crypt]

so in this case, textureoptiongroupname in the save would be ""/blank, the textureoptionname in the save would be "Silver".
That's for having Silver trim and then there are the main colors below that in the texture mbin:

<Property value="TkProceduralTextureLayer.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="OVERLAY" /> <Property name="Probability" value="1" /> <Property name="Group" value="" /> <Property name="SelectToMatchBase" value="False" /> <Property name="Textures"> <Property value="TkProceduralTexture.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="YELLOW" /> <Property name="Palette" value="TkPaletteTexture.xml"> <Property name="Palette" value="Rock" /> <Property name="ColourAlt" value="None" /> </Property>

with the same thing, no group name

[vale iron]

But that would also have an entry of "", so how would it differentiate?

[steel crypt]

it doesn't. it basically skips choosing a group

Group is just a sub class of the layer name

I understand what you're saying.

But group is just a further division.

I don't understand why there isn't a layer name in the save. that's why I wanted to see above. To see if it used the layer name. In this case "OVERLAY" or "OVERLAYMETAL"

[vale iron]

Maybe it just goes in order and you need to have all the entries?

[steel crypt]

I think so.

[hearty wasp]

that's an ID from CHARACTERCUSTOMISATIONTEXTUREOPTIONDATA

at least that's what I think lmao

[steel crypt]

<Property value="TkProceduralTextureLayer.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="MARKINGS" /> <Property name="Probability" value="1" /> <Property name="Group" value="BACKPACK" /> <Property name="SelectToMatchBase" value="False" /> <Property name="Textures"> <Property value="TkProceduralTexture.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="BACKPACK_2" /> <Property name="Palette" value="TkPaletteTexture.xml"> <Property name="Palette" value="Custom_Backpack" /> <Property name="ColourAlt" value="Alternative1" /> </Property>

It's also an option in the texture mbin

[hearty wasp]

ah, interesting

maybe the data table serves as a bridge between texture mbins and the UX

and the "tips"

[steel crypt]

Looks like it to me.

I think it would...when you say use the color customizer it would write a value to the save. Those that you posted would be the choices in the customizer right?
And those choices are names in the texture mbin. There must be a default. When the ships colors are chosen, it uses the seed to make a choice from the mbin. When you color your outfit, it uses the above customizer stuff to write in the save and then uses save data to choose the texture from the mbin with the same name.

[night adder]

Okay, both ways forced silver trim, group name overlaymetal and blank, but both models came in yellow paint, so am guessing thats default when colour choice is missing

I think I need to use OVERLAY as group name and declare red

[steel crypt]

group name is blank in the mbin, so having a group name in the save probably doesn't mean anything....it doesn't use it. You need 2 texture choices.

one for the trim above one for the normal paint

or I'm not understanding what you're saying.

[night adder]

Yes but if both lack group names the game isnt able to differentiate

[steel crypt]

is it possible to share a pic of the save data?

I think order is the thing, not needing a group name. just my guess.

[night adder]

I had metal 1st, colour 2nd, didnt work

[steel crypt]

the sections in the mbin are ...1st section: trim, second: main color

oh like 2 texture choices right?

[night adder]

Yep

[steel crypt]

oh

hmmm

[night adder]

I'm gonna laugh so hard if I got it right

[steel crypt]

might try OVERLAYMETAL then OVERLAY to see what happens

[night adder]

Already loading with those inserted ;)

[steel crypt]

If it can't use those and needs a group name then mbin altering and some other stuff might need to be changed.

[night adder]

Damn, no dice

[steel crypt]

I can think of several things that might be happening.

Is it possible to post a pic of that json section you just tried?

I don't think it has to be in the customizer data cuz living ships are in the save.

You did force the trim, so....hmmm

[night adder]

Living Ships can be force coliyred via palettes, I've got the 5 major ones figured out

[steel crypt]

yellow is the first overlay/main color choice

this should have all the choice names for LS

[night adder]

Those were the 2 variations I tried

[steel crypt]

I'm looking at some stuff

If you look at how the LS colors are done, they don't have a group name. Each one of those colors is in a proc color/texture section like the royal texture mbin.
Both the LS mbin and the Royal mbin use the same structure where in a section you can choose a texture and if it is proc colored. Both have no group name. The LS colors in the save must simply follow the order in the mbin.
Simply following the order with blank group name like your first option chose the first in list (silver trim) but not the red main color....that's where I get lost.

It might have to have a group name to use it, but then why does it set the first (trim) option? All mbins I see so far that do this with textures use group names. But understand that there are multiple mbins with the same group name used which is a good reason to use a group name.

[night adder]

So something I noticed, Silver + Yellow seem to both be defaults, Gold and the other colours have a property the defaults dont, Mask

[steel crypt]

oh so you can't force any texture then correct?

it's simply defaulting?

[night adder]

Yes

[vital phoenix]

Right, so...anyone mind helping me with getting Quicksilver without connecting to the internet?

[steel crypt]

I don't understand what you mean by the others have mask

[night adder]

Do you have save edit capability? If not you may be stuck Stellar Ice fishing @vital phoenix

[vital phoenix]

The former, nope.

[night adder]

@steel crypt
<Property name="Diffuse" value="TEXTURES/COMMON/SPACECRAFT/S-CLASS/ROYALSCLASS_TRIM.OVERLAYMETAL.SILVER.DDS" />
<Property name="Normal" value="" />
<Property name="Mask" value="" />
</Property>

This is the end of Silver and beginning of gold, it immediately lists Mask

Same with Yellow to Blue and every colour aftet

[steel crypt]

Every texture choice only has a diffuse texture. They all use the same mask and base listed at the bottom. So, I don't really understand what you're saying.

<Property value="TkProceduralTexture.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="SILVER" /> <Property name="Palette" value="TkPaletteTexture.xml"> <Property name="Palette" value="Rock" /> <Property name="ColourAlt" value="None" /> </Property> <Property name="Probability" value="1" /> <Property name="TextureGameplayUse" value="IgnoreName" /> <Property name="OverrideAverageColour" value="False" /> <Property name="AverageColour" value="Colour.xml"> <Property name="R" value="0" /> <Property name="G" value="0" /> <Property name="B" value="0" /> <Property name="A" value="0" /> </Property> <Property name="Diffuse" value="TEXTURES/COMMON/SPACECRAFT/S-CLASS/ROYALSCLASS_TRIM.OVERLAYMETAL.SILVER.DDS" /> <Property name="Normal" value="" /> <Property name="Mask" value="" /> </Property>

that above is the silver section

this is the gold section:

<Property value="TkProceduralTexture.xml"> <Property name="Name" value="GOLD" /> <Property name="Palette" value="TkPaletteTexture.xml"> <Property name="Palette" value="Rock" /> <Property name="ColourAlt" value="None" /> </Property> <Property name="Probability" value="1" /> <Property name="TextureGameplayUse" value="IgnoreName" /> <Property name="OverrideAverageColour" value="False" /> <Property name="AverageColour" value="Colour.xml"> <Property name="R" value="0" /> <Property name="G" value="0" /> <Property name="B" value="0" /> <Property name="A" value="0" /> </Property> <Property name="Diffuse" value="TEXTURES/COMMON/SPACECRAFT/S-CLASS/ROYALSCLASS_TRIM.OVERLAYMETAL.GOLD.DDS" /> <Property name="Normal" value="" /> <Property name="Mask" value="" /> </Property>

[night adder]

Yeah I totally misread it on my phone sry

[steel crypt]

What is the symbol ^ used for?

was trying to research that but find nothing yet

[night adder]

Descriptors for fauna, every backpack group name, every backpack texture name

I assumed thisd require the same formatting as everything else

[steel crypt]

what happens if you make it like this:

{ "SelectedPreset":"^", "CustomData":{ "DescriptorGroups":[], "Colours":[], "TextureOptions":[ { "TextureOptionGroupName":"", "TextureOptionName":"^SILVER" }, { "TextureOptionGroupName":"", "TextureOptionName":"^RED" } ], "BoneScales":[], "Scale":1.0 } },

Assuming "SelectedPreset":"^", is proper syntax, I don't think it will work, but I just don't know what ^ is used for.

or maybe switch silver for gold for better test

[night adder]

That was in the first pair of options i tried

[steel crypt]

the one you posted above?

in this example I removed the ^ from the lines: "TextureOptionGroupName":"^",

[night adder]

Ahh, will try

[steel crypt]

Just a shot in the dark cuz past that, everything I see it would seem that you might have to mod a bunch of stuff if you have to have a group name.

[terse raven]

hello i am new and just want the expedition rewards without having to do the expedition itself because I don't have enough time to play on both normal save and expedition
so where do I start with the save edit thing

[hearty wasp]

use consumerism

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062

[terse raven]

ohhh no need for save edit?

[hearty wasp]

unless you're on console

[terse raven]

im pc

ps4 frames are bad 😦

[hearty wasp]

then you can just use a mod

[terse raven]

cool

will i get banned

[hearty wasp]

no one cares

not even hg

[terse raven]

awesome

also

if I use that and buy the things with quicksilver yeah

and then for some reason my pc gets formatted and i lose the files

[hearty wasp]

it's not account wide

[terse raven]

will i still have the rewards on the save

[hearty wasp]

you'll have to rebuy

[terse raven]

ah man

[hearty wasp]

if you don't like that you can use seasonal reward unlocker

I don't have the link handy but you can just search that on Nexus

[terse raven]

ye i want to permanently unlock them without having to do all the phases

[hearty wasp]

nothing's as permanent as editing your save

but just keeping the mod installed is easier

[terse raven]

fair enough I'll use that

that way i have a reason to do nexus missions

[hearty wasp]

there's still this

[terse raven]

how do I install it

[steel crypt]

a mod?

[terse raven]

figured it out

[steel crypt]

1. Add the .pak file to:
   C:/(NMS installation folder)/No Man's Sky/GAMEDATA/PCBANKS/MODS folder
2. Rename or delete C:/(NMS installation folder)/No Man's Sky/GAMEDATA/PCBANKS/DISABLEMODS.txt

Okay beat me to it 🙂

[terse raven]

😄

aight thx guys

i'll prob come back when i want to learn how to edit my freighter colors

[terse raven]

so my friend installed a planet generation mod

and he removed it from the folder afterwards

and now it gives him an error

[hearty wasp]

check file integrity

[tidal portal]

could there be, an actual pickaxe melee weapon?

RETURN TO MINECRAFT

[still sandal]

not sure if this is the right place but here it goes: is there a mapping mod for the game? something to track and book mark locations etc

[hearty wasp]

best we can do is shooting a pickaxe out of our gun

[hearty wasp]

no

can't if you mean a integrated GUI thing

[still sandal]

doesn't have to be integrated

i just hae a hard time wrapping my head around the in game mapping system

[tidal portal]

sadge

[hearty wasp]

if you just put down bases I bet you can use NMSC to switch in/out bases to teleport to

otherwise fuckall

[little pasture]

you cant get banned. well you can but i imagine it would be difficuilt or you'd have to try get a pirated copy of nms and distribute it or something

[tidal portal]

@merry wasp your mod to buy derelict stuff, doesnt allow you to buy Frigate Upgrades, or Tainted Metal

I do realize your other mod to make upgrades but comon

[twilit smelt]

the only known case of someone getting banned was some complete jerk using an early exploit to delete other people's bases. it's not even clear how he was banned.
worth noting is that if it comes to light you're running a pirated copy of the game, you'll be banned from this discord server. you can play NMS legitimately for $1 for the first month by signing up for an Xbox Game Pass for PC trial account, or for under $15 USD for a Steam-based license from cdkeys.com.

just plugging that here so people support HG, who are still actively developing the game after five years.

[little pasture]

no but wouldnt there be more consequences if you started actively distributing a pirated version of NMS

[twilit smelt]

yes - the Atlas would delete your iteration.

[little pasture]

iteration?

[twilit smelt]

if you're not sure about that term, just keep playing the storyline quests. 🙂

[little pasture]

...

hmph.

[twilit smelt]

@bleak thunder regarding build mods - depends what you want to accomplish. I'm currently using several build-related mods.

• gBase by gumsk - I modified it a bit to no longer allow base parts to be built outside of base limits, which it does by default. it can help a bit, but it can also bite you.
• expanded resizing - made this one to greatly increase the limits you can expand or shrink objects.
• Tesseraction by TheLich - allows snapping walls/floors at different angles. the downside is it makes a lot of new snapping points to the point that it can be hard to find the right one. I modified it to only add 45° and 90° snaps to floors - no walls - which lets me leave it enabled most of the time, and do the vast majority of wacky stuff i want to do.

[hearty wasp]

Tesseraction still works?

Damn, that lua is the goat

[vale iron]

Yeah I'm pretty shocked by that too. Would have just assumed it broke with all the building changes

[merry wasp]

Mod does what it should do, as stated in the description

[steel crypt]

This is not my software, but I had to let you know about it! Literally. (Due to a handshake contract the creator never thought I would take seriously and regrets making at this point.)
It's a mod creating tool with all the bells and whistles for groovy mod creators like yourself.

Available here:
https://github.com/cmkushnir/NMSModBuilder/releases/tag/v.3.82.1

[tidal portal]

yes but it doesn’t allow to buy the actual useful things like tainted metal or frigate upgrade mods

[merry wasp]

if you could buy tainted metal that be like buying nanites

also frigate upgrade mods are a pain to deal with

[tidal portal]

ah ok, so you just made that mod for more building ok

[merry wasp]

yes, basically the % you could draw those blueprints was like 2% or lower

so yeah

[little pasture]

anyone know how to add custom multitools?

[vale iron]

Nope, hasn't been done AFAIK

[little pasture]

oh

bruh

[hearty wasp]

what about Sean

[little pasture]

NO

GOD

NO PLEASE

[hearty wasp]

I mean technically I didn't add it

I just made every single one Sean

[little pasture]

you did you change any models?

[hearty wasp]

I posted the screenie like a week back

[little pasture]

yeah ik i saw it

cuz i want a mod for the E-11 from star wars but couldnt find a mod for it

[hearty wasp]

I mean

[tidal portal]

si far only mod for SW Ships atm

[little pasture]

yeah ik

[tidal portal]

is it a mod or just a private save editied thing

save editied being code edited

[viral badger]

I didn't edit it

rofl

[bleak thunder]

any recommended mods to make systems looks less like this

and more like this?

[vale iron]

Black space without nebulae probably

And some sort of asteroids mod

[bleak thunder]

ehh asteroids just happened to be in the shot, but mainly the brightness. lol. its jarring how bright some of these systems are

[vale iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1471/

The only downside I find is that some things are too dark. I think it needs a bump to ambient light to go with it maybe

[bleak thunder]

yeah eh, it seems that mod would just be all pure black all the time

[vale iron]

Use the 'with nebulae' option

Or I think Jason has an option in Dud's

[bleak thunder]

my second screenshot used one of Exosolar's mods, but i forget which.

[vale iron]

Expanse?

[bleak thunder]

hmm maybe

and im seeing its updated haha, damn i didnt think his stuff would still be workin.

[vale iron]

Babscoole maintains it now

Awesome modders like Exo hand their stuff off to others when they retire

[bleak thunder]

i love what you all do ❤️

thank you for the replies

[hearty wasp]

I sense an undertone

[vale iron]

I actually can't think of anyone that retired and left their stuff that I used, so no hidden intent 🙂

[hearty wasp]

I mean I can think of two

And I'm one of em

[vale iron]

You maintain your stuff!

[hearty wasp]

...For now

[vale iron]

What will people do without their Seans?!

You better not ever retire, people need your stuff

You're allowed to retire when the last update drops and you've updated all your mods 😛

[hearty wasp]

Someday I'll just fuck off for another 2 years and then come back afterwards

[vale iron]

It would be a great loss

But I suppose we all have to go at some point

[merry wasp]

Nevah

[hearty wasp]

40 years in the future
Somehow... GameMaster returned

[merry wasp]

Who says i haven't returned already

[hearty wasp]

Hello there, I'm the inventor of SACS. I love SACS, I've been making SACS for the last week. You may even say I have SACS everyday.
SACS is an AMUMSS script that adds a bunch of new colour palettes to the base building system, making your base more colourful. It also allows every single palette to be used on every single base object.
If you are interested, you should definitely have SACS today.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2215/

[waxen cedar]

So all of them are vanilla palettes that can be seen by non-mod users too then?

[hearty wasp]

the "legacy" group will, but the others only if you don't add any new palettes

which the script doesn't provide on its own and you'd have to delete all the contents of NEW_COLOURS_HEX to achieve that

although I dunno why you'd want people to see the vanilla shit browns

[little pasture]

wait iteration is just your character/save right?

cuz if so i think i didnt know what it is because i dont pay attention to dialog

[steel crypt]

DUD'S SKY - TERRA FIRMA updated v3.84.2

Added new mod. NaturalSpawn!
Changes spawn area size of 2 large plant and rock spawn groups that are used on all planets.
Makes forests and larger groups of rocks, plants, and trees have larger groups with larger barren areas between.
Makes more "forest and plains" areas than the evenly distributed smaller forests in vanilla NMS.

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2022

[vale iron]

gShip Custom Ships updated to 3.84b

Added X70-B Phantom, Y-Wing BTL-B, Firespray UA, Halo Phantom, Halo Pelican, Blade Starship. Replaced BSG Viper II with new model.

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1891

[round sinew]

@merry wasp AddNewFoods.lua, line 309, "IngedientID" , in case you hadn't noticed

didn't consider the possibility that it wasn't supposed to be IngredientID tbh 😅

[merry wasp]

Yeah its changed

Haven't had the time to edit it yet @round sinew

Fyi

@round sinew this mod also changes recipes https://github.com/MetaIdea/nms-amumss-lua-mod-script-collection/blob/main/Jackty89/FuelEconomy.lua

Also one of mine, its not food but same table and id's anyway

@round sinew if you look at the grefinerrecipe struct you should see the difference

[round sinew]

haven't looked at it yet, sorry; i'll look into it after lunch 😄

thank you, this is helpful

[lime mesa]

Does the serenity ( firefly ) model have the rotating engines working?

[steel crypt]

Gumsk knows better and I can easily be wrong, but I think animations are practically impossible to do.

[vale iron]

No, the engines are not animated

[lime mesa]

Aww drat.

[merry wasp]

@round sinew im updating the food lua, pretty sure ill have the new version online on my git

[steel crypt]

DUD'S SKY updated v3.84.2
BIG update! 🙂
Updated FrozenColors mod.
Added 4 new mods:

GraphicFX_v3842
PlanetFilters_v3842
StormFilters_v3842
TerraColors_v3842
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968

I'm proud of the results of these. This is personal preference, but the GraphicFX mod really changed the feel of NMS in a semi-subtle way that I never knew could make that much difference in how NMS feels.

[hearty wasp]

hey guys Imma start adding shit into Eucli-ea again

what kinda non-Nexus objects do y'all want to see added for base building

also I forgot to post this

@magic lava thanks for the idea again

love you

[magic lava]

Lol

[hearty wasp]

hope you saw the blob one too

[magic lava]

I did, very nice lmao

[slow lintel]

Just started using No Man's Connect and it's not saving my progress. Do I load it before or after loading NMS?

[merry wasp]

@round sinew code should be fixed now

[steep epoch]

Shoulder plate and kneepads to to be him tooo lol

[steel crypt]

DUD'S SKY updated v3.84.2

Added new mod: PetRider_v3842
-Increases pet riding speed.
-Improved speed transitions from walk to trot to run etc.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/507

Ahhh that feels good. Every WIP mod I had for a while got finished and is posted 🙂

[sturdy bridge]

just a question if i get mods am i able to play multilayer with someone from playstation?

[vale iron]

#nms-modding message

[sturdy bridge]

ok, thanks alot👍

[merry wasp]

i think we need to ask the admins have a mandatory FAQ read through for the modding channel

[hearty wasp]

bi-weekly quizs

[magic lava]

Yeah, no problem - I'll pin it so everyone is sure to see it

[merry wasp]

[hearty wasp]

hmm, are there shit in settlements that are not buildable yet

[cloud basin]

might finally cave in, is there some mod that explicitly makes frigate modules easier to obtain?

[hearty wasp]

https://gfycat.com/readycoordinatedfruitbat

lookin good

also gon make sentinel mats colourisable tmr

if I can be arsed

[slow lintel]

So cursed, keep going

[hearty wasp]

that's literally just an unused vanilla thing

other than the lime colour, that's from SACS

[slow lintel]

I mean the Sean Murray scanner head

[hearty wasp]

oh ok

it's just the normal for me so I don't really register it

[lime mesa]

Has anyone made a mod that lets you teleport to your freighter? I hate having a warp point there and not being able to, you know, warp to it.

[merry wasp]

@round sinew supports multiple recipes for newfood, haven't written out the comments yet. Also works with a custom language file, should help with conflict and compile times

custom language file (faster compile)

[lime mesa]

God I love NMS fantasy

[glass fulcrum]

modding tutorial pls?

[magic lava]

pins have some starter links

https://wiki.step-project.com/NMS:Landing_Page

[bleak thunder]

I don't suppose anyone's ever figured out how to customize ships to get exactly the ship you want, be it through mods, or editing save files or something?

[steel crypt]

there is no such beast.

A ship (collection of parts) is determined by a seed. You have to use a seed for a ship that you like.

[bleak thunder]

one could dream. i was hoping maybe somehow the seeds were able to be decoded somehow over the years.

[steel crypt]

Well they have been sorta.

that sharing discord used deep learning to brute force them.
https://discord.gg/Y3BvPNd3

[bleak thunder]

😮

i mean, this sounds close to such a beast that I dream of haha

[steel crypt]

If you find a seed you like in there, you can save edit to change a ship you have. (in appearance only....I believe)

[neat thorn]

Where do I get mods from? Nexus?

[hearty wasp]

ye

[steel crypt]

Dude, what gives?
You seem to get all the easy AF questions and mine take like 2 hours. Share your power with me.

[hearty wasp]

it's simple

you just don't answer em

[night adder]

@steel crypt It's not appearance only, the base maneuverability will change to that of the new seed.

@bleak thunder I've been helping Mjstral figure things out so he can improve and add new features to his bot for over half a year, if you have questions, feel free to ask. :)

[lime mesa]

I couldn't figure out how that works. I want a ship built like this. Color isn't particularly important.

Found that on the wiki but no link to get it.

[night adder]

@lime mesa I can give you a seed for one, or spawn and deliver it if you use mods but not save editing

[lime mesa]

I'd take a seed for one. Long as it's that basic shape and parts and such I'm not picky about coloring

If I got to choose colors I'd like something grey blue black or red in that order.

[night adder]

@lime mesa 0x5EEDC0DE8F343E28 - Mjstral set up the brute forcer for custom ships so the seeds it spits out can be identified and prevent dishonest folks from trying to claim they're natural discoveries.

[lime mesa]

That's pretty neat

I'll check this later and report back

Thank you for finding it. Or making it. Or...whatever. I don't really understand it

[lime mesa]

Not sure what there is to gain by claiming a ship is found rather than edited but I think it's pretty cool you've got a way to bust said claims.

[night adder]

YW! Mjstral figured out how to analyze seeds to display the ships they'll produce, the bot is linked to a homemade supercomputer, you search ship type, parts, and colours, and the bot checks millions of seeds per second looking for a match, that's what is meant by brute force. :)

[lime mesa]

I understand that bit. More the rest of it. And why someone would try to pretend a ship that was edited was a natural find.

Anyone happens to ask me where I got that one (when I've got it) I'll tell em I got it from Mjstrals custom seed bot 😁

[night adder]

Exploration is the core of NMS gameplay, many civs set up events and activities centered around it. One of the reasons I chose to help Mjstral is because he respects that enough to take measures to ensure his work doesn't disrupt/damage the things other communities have established.

[lime mesa]

I like it. I do a lot of modding and save editing. I play multiplayer off and usually in creative mode so I don't have an unfair advantage over others

Some are less concerned about such things.

[night adder]

Custom ships were just where he started, nowadays the bot is capable of taking any Portal address, and figuring out the entire region - every star, the ships that spawn, the planets with in detail down to the colour palettes for grass, plants, water, and air, and every creature that spawns on them, lol.

[lime mesa]

Damn. That's some good work.

[waxen cedar]

is the bot yet available to backward engineer the system/planet glyphs from only its natural name tho? That would be groundbreaking

have some fancy planets that I remember the name of but never got around saving the glyphs

[night adder]

Procgen naming isn't specific enough for that to be possible, repeat names occur - for example, I have found 4 different ships named The Prophecy of Madness. Planets/stars use a more complex naming system, but there are still only a fraction of possibilities that there are seeds.

[waxen cedar]

Well if it gave back a dozen or so outputs those would be feasible to manually go through by a human

[night adder]

He's taken a look at this because so many players have expressed interest, it's thousands

Even when you divide the number of galaxies, there are still hundreds of repeats

[waxen cedar]

Well I'd imagine it would be easier to narrow down if system and planet names within it could be taken in account somehow. I'd imagine that kind of combination of duplicates would be even less common

or the planets individual properties

[lime mesa]

It could not be more perfect. Thank you.

[night adder]

YW!

@waxen cedar I'll be sure mention that idea to him, I don't know how deeply he looked into the problem, but you're right, it should be possible to filter results by system seed to narrow things down - however, if the goal was to find a planet from before Origins, it could throw a wrench in the works for biome types that were subject to conversion.

[waxen cedar]

I was mostly thinking of giving it parameters like system name, planet name and planet properties like resources, sentinel activity and climate

and based on that information it could narrow down the duplicate names

I doubt that there are that many "Dodulverl" systems with exactly two planets that have those exact names

But yes. Those names do exist in hundreds or thousands that I'm sure. Just not in this exact configuration

[night adder]

There are a number of ways to approach the problem, ultimately it comes down to whether the amount of work involved in applying a solution is worth the result in Mjstral's eyes - after all, this is a passion project for him, not his dayjob, lol.

[waxen cedar]

Of course. I personally think it's not worth the effort since there can't be that many people requesting such thing

[glass fulcrum]

is it against game rules to use infinite warp in multiplayer survival?

[steel crypt]

You make your own rules, so you decide.

[hearty wasp]

new things incoming 👀

[wise tusk]

I'm no modder, so obviously I don't know what I'm talking about, but why are there so few texture mods (on Nexus, at least)? Is it so hard to edit the game's textures?

[hearty wasp]

yes

[wise tusk]

☹️

[hearty wasp]

3.3.4 "da po po be fast on yo ass"

Added 23 new objects

"Souma-boulung" small drone projector under Eucli-ea Decoration > Tabletop objects

"San-Unogun" multitool display case under Eucli-ea Decoration > Furnishings, requires purchase from Quicksilver Shop

3 sittable scrapheap under Eucli-ea Decoration > Debris and Trash

5 lunar artefact under Eucli-ea Decoration > Additional Decorations

"Deidai-Soeng" big crate under Eucli-ea Decoration > Additional Decorations, requires purchase from Quicksilver Shop

4 drop pods under Eucli-ea Structures > Other Structures

3 drone models, "Gaauteon" sentinel shield, "Zaagu" model sentinel mech, 3 sentinel hive structures and decorations under Eucli-ea Outdoor / Lights / Technology > Sentinels

Fixed some invisible base object icons and possible crashes from that

Fixed parts of the fake multitool inside "Unogun" Multitool display case decoration

Fixed "Daaitau-Geihai" walker head decoration being invisible

Fixed Korvax outpost wall attachment structural pieces missing some mesh

Spend less, furnish more.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/367

[vale iron]

What do you want textures for?

[quiet yacht]

@bleak thunder
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1261?tab=files

[bleak thunder]

@bright cedar if ur on pc

[lime mesa]

Is there a mod to get quicksilver fast?

I found one that gives me 500000 whenever I chart something but it crashes whenever i go to the anomaly

Save editor can give you however many you think you need.

But since it's a save editor it's pretty easy to mess up your game too heh

Ah ok

Lol

Does the Anomaly just not work with mods?

It keeps crashing when I go into it

Depends on the mods. I've got several plus save editor shenanigans. Works fine for me.

Huh

Ok lemme just double check

Maybe it’s the one making expedition rewards purchasable?

Might be. Can't say. I don't have that.

Hm

Oh yep it is

For some reason it doesn’t work on creative

Wack

Playing on creative and using save editor makes quite a few mods and trainers etc unnecessary

Coolio

Yeah for some reason creative doesn’t give you infinite quicksilver

[wise tusk]

I miss the old ones for the ships

[vale iron]

There are two extensive ship reskins, Ships of Moar and gShip Custom Ships

[hearty wasp]

that's weird since it just fuck with the quicksilver shop list

[lime mesa]

Ikr

Save editors to the rescue

Just give me all the expedition rewards anyway

[hearty wasp]

lemme try out myself

hmm, not replicatable on my end

could be a mix of different mods modifying the same file?

[lime mesa]

Possibly

[hearty wasp]

well, as long as it's not mine crashing it

[lime mesa]

Lol

[neat thorn]

whats the best mod to make the game more beautiful

clear skys and such

[steel crypt]

Clear skies? Like never have storms or remove all clouds or ?

[steel crypt]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968

This is a visual only mod that contains many mods that you can use together or independently.

It contains a mod that removes upper stratos clouds

This will remove the 3D cumulous clouds:

[neat thorn]

what file do i put it in

just mods?

or is there another path

nvm

[lime mesa]

There's a tutorial around here somewhere.

[neat thorn]

found it lol

No Man's Sky/GAMEDATA/PCBANKS/MODS

[lime mesa]

Yes. Don't forget to delete or rename the disablemods.txt file.

[neat thorn]

not finding it

ahhh

its in my base files not a downloaded file

ty

[magic lava]

@vale iron

No clue about where to find models

[vale iron]

That's Chorus? Is that a game?

Not familiar with it

[magic lava]

Yeah

[vale iron]

ok, I'll look

[magic lava]

Ton of fun, just a dog fighter game with a story

[lime mesa]

Can save editor pull a seed from a ship you don't own? Like say one at the space station

[night adder]

@lime mesa No

[lime mesa]

Drat. That plan won't work then. Bah.

[marsh eagle]

Whats your plan ? Maybe I can help you

[lime mesa]

Oh, just snagging seeds of ships I like without having to buy them and save and then edit and blah.

Figured it might knock a few steps off the process of swapping ships out

Quick seed swap. What I ended up doing is making a manual save before buying, get the ship, hop out and autosave - edit that, grab the seed, then edit the manual save and plug the seed in over the ship I want to trade. This preserves the ship tech and inventory and blah saves a lot of hassle.

[night adder]

@lime mesa Export your ship. Exchange ships, copy seed, delete and import your tech, paste seed, done.

[hearty wasp]

Update to the AMUMSS script, added safeguards and debug messages for any typos so that one typo does stop the script from working
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1064

[magic lava]

Nice

[hearty wasp]

I've some more tweaks down the line but I think I can wait half a week for it

hopefully shrinks the file size down a bit

[magic lava]

Oh nice

[wet sequoia]

Is there a mod that skips npc dialogs automatically?

[hearty wasp]

prolly can't

just make an autohotkey script

[wet sequoia]

Aww man
Okay then. Thx

[night adder]

Before they updated the Explorer looks, I always kept an eye out for a purple Ajairu model because I swore the only one of the type I'd ever fly would be one that looked enough like this:

[bleak thunder]

any mods that can change graphics settings on entering photo mode?

[hearty wasp]

graphics settings, I don't believe so

especially when some settings requires a restart

[hearty wasp]

these 6 look p cool

I like the bat wing

just gotta wait till NMSDK is stable to put em into SoM

[vale iron]

I see you're also a lightwarrior fan. I was looking at the v and e wings as well. Wasn't sure about another x-wing. They released a nice looking t-70 today, if you don't have that already

[hearty wasp]

tbh I just browse sketchfeb and pick the ones I like

I have no idea where half of em come from

tbh I prefer it since I wanna be diverse about it

not get myself bored from one aesthetic and such

[vale iron]

I do that too, just ended up with a bunch from lightwarrior by doing so. They put out a lot of stuff, though most of it is SW

I keep wondering if it's a team because the models vary in technique and quality

[hearty wasp]

they look preem as shit, that's the important thing

yo cloud car

I loved this thing back when I played Star Wars Battlefront (2003)

that was 19 years ago

I am aging before my very eyes

[slow lintel]

Is there a mod that lists data about systems in a certain region from game files?

[hearty wasp]

no

[quiet yacht]

Is it possible to "re-create" a character with a save editor? Like if I copy pasted the weapon and ship seeds over?

[lime mesa]

I've moved a freighter and ships

I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to move other stuff.

[quiet yacht]

Ok cool. Wanted to see if it was possible before I put alot of time into it. Gonna recreate my character into survival (just ship, multi tool, tech knowledge)

[marsh eagle]

I do info exports for entire regions for people. Example: https://metaidea.github.io/nms-system-info-export/

[signal patio]

i assume a lot of you in this are in the other modding discord, but could i bother someone to have a gander and tell me why my UBB items arent spawning? first is the lua files taht were used to combine the mods, second is my nms mod folder

[vale iron]

GEpic Max has base building stuff in it and is conflicting with UBB. Make UBB load after gEpic.

@signal patio

[signal patio]

would it not already? i thought they were just alphabetical when loading. should i just slap some ~~ in front of it? @vale iron

of course, we see where my thinking is getting me so far

k ill give it a go. thank you xx

and i got crash

[night adder]

@quiet yacht NomNom has a feature specifically for "transferring" characters between platforms - including bases built, and it will even transfer pending discoveries as long as you've not yet tried to upload them. :)

[vale iron]

I would recommend loading UBB by itself then adding one at a time until you find where the problem is.

[quiet yacht]

Thanks. But I'm just doing it with a save editor. I'm about done for what I wanted to do

[vale iron]

But you're right, they should have been loading in the proper order already. I was just looking at the order on the screen, not thinking alphabetically

[signal patio]

would having added underscores to the front of them have any effect other than bumping them down? ill try individually. i tried gertting rid of vortex, and adding the underscores, then i loaded the game and now there are zero items in the build menu.

[vale iron]

Adding underscores just changes the load order, wouldn't cause it to not load or to crash UNLESS there is a partial conflict where one mod is overwriting parts that another mod needs. And with all those building mods in there, that's a distinct possibility.

[signal patio]

hmm.

[vale iron]

You have Ultra Base Building, Unlimited Base Building, gEpic, Kibbles

[signal patio]

correct. i did download ultra and unlimited separately in case i didnt need unlimited. gepic seems to have some of those features. ill bump thru them one by one and try and find the problem child i reckon

[signal patio]

Ah. I see verifying integrity brought the ol disablemods back. That explains the why everything went bye-bye. I am learning things today.

[vale iron]

Oh yeah, I remember learning that, too

[signal patio]

Lol after going back and refreshing myself on everything in gepic, I now realize unlimited was completely unnecessary

[signal patio]

THATS the one right there baybee

all of it works

[vale iron]

Nice, glad you got it all working

Let me know if you think gEpic needs changes

[hearty wasp]

I think I had that issue once as well

when the compiler crashed when AMUMSS ran

that was p funny

[signal patio]

will do!

[hearty wasp]

why ain't these buildable in vanilla

I'm also still looking for more unbuildable settlement things

maybe I'll add the "construction" sound effect in like a speaker or whatever

[lime mesa]

Right so inputting the seed of a white freighter doesn't enable me to paint my glitched black one. It shows up as black

I'm digging through the save editor to see if I can figure out why

Any ideas?

[rapid sandal]

Don't they have multiple seeds, like a ship seed and system seed ... altough I'd expect system seed to control crew and ship seed to control ship ...

[lime mesa]

Yes

I just lost my vykeen crew in testing that

But I've got my seeds backed up

There's something more to it apparently.

And I think it has to do with which model it's saying it should use

i think

the answer is here

i need to figure out what other models exist...and change this to a different one

[rapid sandal]

Probably better off asking in No Man's Sky - Creative & Sharing Hub server, they've done a lot of reverse engineering of the seeds and could likely tell you what you need to do.
They also have a seed generator where you specify parts and colors and they give you a seed

[lime mesa]

but im over my head on this.

got a link there?

[rapid sandal]

https://discord.gg/T4Eav6Z6

[lime mesa]

cool thanks

can't hurt to try

[lime mesa]

in a roundabout way a solution was had

most of one anyway..stuck with a gek crew now but at least I can repaint my ship

[rapid sandal]

he mentioned that he might get the bot updated to create freighter seeds next month or so.

[lime mesa]

Neat

[waxen cedar]

it's pretty fun. You can change it to literally any model of the space encounters, starships etc

or even the normandy

but those can't be boarded on

[lime mesa]

I've got a Normandy. I tried landing on it. Fail

I land on all the others regularly they give me stuff or salute me etc

[vale iron]

Or if one of them works for you, you could use gShip Custom Freighters

[lime mesa]

I like the regular ones. I like the star wars custom ones as well but since it's online and nobody else would see it I'll stick with game models

[pastel tendon]

is there a way to combine 2 mods that affect the same file?

[hearty wasp]

AMUMSS

search AMUMSS on Nexus

[pastel tendon]

AH thanks I was trying so hard to remember the name :P

[slow lintel]

Is No Man's Connect supposed to refresh automatically with the game running simultaneously or do I have to manually restart whenever I upload new discoveries?

[hearty wasp]

I think you need to save

Connect reads save data I think

[hearty wasp]

this looks ok

[iron niche]

Any mods for VR improvement?

[thick quartz]

honestly thats sick

just needs supports on the overhanging structures

[somber hemlock]

i highly recommend this is you're tired of that damn robotic exosuit voice

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1992

[vale iron]

I use no exosuit voice. It makes the game feel so much more immersive

[fresh rivet]

Is there an preferable save editor? Like, which one will be the least hassle for a noob.

[hearty wasp]

NMSSE and NomNom both works

search save editor on Nexus

[fresh rivet]

I can change the time and date of my save with NomNom?

[hearty wasp]

as in the modified date?

or timers

[fresh rivet]

I'd like to get started on the questline but the expedition doesn't end for 10 more days

can I change the date with NomNom?

[hearty wasp]

p sure that's not how expedition works

it's server based

why would the date be saved in the save anyway

every other game just uses system time

[fresh rivet]

Forget it, I'll just wait the ten days...

[waxen cedar]

Doesn't fiddling with system time mess up the timers anyway? Like suddenly settlement is in -4bil debth, fleet won't be coming back in two years and plants get infinite grow time

[hearty wasp]

ngl 2 years sounds like a more realistic fleet mission time

[magic lava]

I want this mod

[waxen cedar]

Time to make a "Realistic Fleet Timers" mod

[hearty wasp]

I'm sure I say that line a lot

but you need to be careful what you wish for

[magic lava]

[hearty wasp]

well

try it

@magic lava

do it

[magic lava]

Killer, I will

Thanks

What else does it do lol

[hearty wasp]

I hope you're ready to grow old with your settlement

[magic lava]

Lol

[hearty wasp]

I made settlement construction times in real-time too

[magic lava]

Hahaha

[hearty wasp]

3 months to 2 years

[magic lava]

As an estimate

Should have delays and added costs lmao

[hearty wasp]

I wish I can

but each building type is just a single param

[magic lava]

Still brutal, thanks

[hearty wasp]

I still don't understand why a water tower takes 1.5 years to build

[magic lava]

Usually everything but the actual construction is where the delay comes in

[hearty wasp]

fair

[waxen cedar]

@supple wadi You should try that mod

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2197

Small UI expansion in the parts menu

Moved all sub groups in the Legacy top group into Large Structures top group

[lime mesa]

Will the game not allow you to start a game in other than expedition mode? That seems weird if so.

[fresh rivet]

Dunno, not sure how to do that.

[gritty radish]

is it possible to change item names using a save editor?

[lime mesa]

Probably depends on the item. My computer is currently down so I can't test whatever it is you're wanting to do sorry

[gritty radish]

mk

[hearty wasp]

no

[gritty radish]

oof

[hearty wasp]

anything you can rename you can rename in game

[gritty radish]

I wanted to rename pugneum to lean-

[hearty wasp]

you can learn how to mod instead

[gritty radish]

cool

[sour cedar]

If anyone here has a Normandy frigate as an item, please let me know I have an offer.

[hearty wasp]

go to quicksilver shop and buy yourself an unlimited amount of it

[sour cedar]

Sadly, I’m on Xbox.

I had the item a bit ago but deleted it whilst duping. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[hearty wasp]

then you can still save edit it

its ID is EXPD_SPEC02

add that specifically as a product in your inventory

[sour cedar]

On Xbox…? I’d like to know how to save edit on Xbox.

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1566

read the description

[sour cedar]

Bet thanks

[hearty wasp]

modding is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural

[sour cedar]

I had no clue you could edit saves on Xbox, is there anything you can tell me about it or do you have no idea when it comes to Xbox?

[hearty wasp]

I don't have an xbox

there's a discord link in that description page tho

[lime mesa]

I don't even know if it's possible

[sour cedar]

It is, but not from the Xbox. Gotta install no mans sky on my laptop, it syncs the saves and I can edit it that way.

Hopefully I can open the menu at least 💀

[lime mesa]

I can barely figure it out on pc

On ur laptop might work

[sour cedar]

Cant be too hard, I’ve done things like this before in the days of 360. Back before all of Microsoft’s suped up encryptions.

[lime mesa]

I modded some on SoD2 but nms is not my expertise

[sour cedar]

I just hope someone remembers Horizon 🤣 if anyone here used to mod on 360.

Haven’t done any modding of any kind on No Mans Sky, I play on Xbox. But here I am.

[quiet yacht]

Any mods yet to repaint the minotaur "sentinel" parts?

[vale iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2180

[quiet yacht]

Thank you so much

[sour cedar]

I now know how to save edit. thank you for this information it will be very useful.

[vale iron]

@dark plinth
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1891

[dark plinth]

Thanks

Here's a suggestion, the Scimitar from Star Wars

[vale iron]

Oh, there's actually a recent model for that. I just didn't like how it looked. If it would be popular though, I can do it

[nimble saddle]

To what extend is NMS moddable?

[vale iron]

That's a hard question to answer. "somewhat" would be my answer, but that doesn't say much. There's a decent amount we can do, but also a decent amount that is either locked up in the EXE or single player only

[nimble saddle]

Oh, so no ground breaking stuff.

[vale iron]

Just like my "somewhat", "ground breaking" doesn't have a firm definition, so I can't really answer that. If you can say what you are wanting specifically, I can probably say if it's possible.

[hearty wasp]

switch out "ground breaking" to "game breaking" and you got yourself a deal

laughs in drills

[magic lava]

Hehehe

[nimble saddle]

Well, disabling contextual building for parts

Guess it depends where it is implemented

And how

[hearty wasp]

that requires tweaking literally every single part that has that feature

if you're ok with doing it we can teach you

just don't expect anyone would have the ass to do it if you think it is overwhelming work

[vale iron]

So, possible, but unlikely to be done

[hearty wasp]

I'm sure with enough ass someone can do a lua for it

I've an idea or 2 on how it can be done

but I'm not assed

[steel crypt]

So we need a ghetto booty modder

[vale iron]

Stay back! I'll super-size your booty!

[hearty wasp]

or a donkey

[nimble saddle]

Oh fuck

I'd much rather have HG add a "disable_contextual" attribute to parts

[hearty wasp]

they cannot

the system is integral to base object placement

have fun seeing literally none of your base objects if that's the case

so either join us in the dark side or keep yourself in agony

[undone otter]

Can I play in Multiplayer with Mods?

Like... doesn't the Mod conflict with something?

[hearty wasp]

[lime mesa]

Any of y'all figure out how to get a working portal gate inside a freighter base yet? 😁

[hearty wasp]

can't

not how the teleporter works

[lime mesa]

I don't really care about warping to it. But warping from it...that's hot 😁

[hearty wasp]

you can just build a teleporter on your base

a lotta mods including eucliea has that built in

[lime mesa]

Yep. I've got a portal tagged with a base computer. Can jump to it and go. But it'd be nice to have my own portal gate in my ship even if it was only one way like the teleporter

[hearty wasp]

Eucli-ea has a mini-portal

[waxen cedar]

our God is upon us

the return

he came to judge us for our sins

[hearty wasp]

that's just a screenie for an Eucli-ea update

which I forgor to post here

[waxen cedar]

have you yet changed skybox suns into Sean in the Sean mod?

as well as star systems in galaxy map

[hearty wasp]

3.3.5 "Building Respects"

Added Monolith sub group under Eucli-ea Structures

**Non-Buildframe RecTUM users will see Monolith sub group under Eucli-ea Structures 2

Added 25 new decorations and structures

Monolith foundation, 3 monolith stairs, 15 monolith plaques under Eucli-ea Structures > Monolith

2 standing monitors under Eucli-ea Decorations > Displays

3 settlement monuments under Eucli-ea Outdoor / Lights / Technology > Outdoor Decoration

Settlement stone tower under Eucliea Structures > Other Structures

Added vanilla variants of settlement monuments and stone tower under Furnishings > Decorative Technology; these can be unstable and can softlock your game if the save doesn't have a settlement

Condensed 3 Special Road sub groups into one "ROADS - SPECIAL" sub group

Spend less, furnish more.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/367

[hearty wasp]

those are shader based, not texture based

[lime mesa]

In clicking around I found the everything is Sean mod. As well as the discussion that happened on Twitter. That is comedy gold.

[merry wasp]

Lol

Buildin respects

Every fcking time you make le laugh

[hearty wasp]

that's what the names are here for

[hearty wasp]

[quasi fossil]

Very nice

[waxen cedar]

hmm

an odd thing

somehow I've turned all firework types free

it wouldn't really be that big of a deal but apparently such change applied across every old and new save

Would anyone mind helping out and telling where the cross-save reward unlocker stuff is? I'd really like to reset these into the paid ones for the sake of "sense of progress"

[rare escarp]

Is there a mod that allows you to play with photo mode filters turned on?
I really like the Vapour filter

[vale iron]

Not that I know of.

[hearty wasp]

they should have the base value of 50 right

at least that's what I'm seeing in the product table

[teal lance]

Hey gumsk thanks for the hardframe reskin mod

It looks really cool

[vale iron]

Glad you're enjoying it. What color(s) did you use?

[teal lance]

Blackred

And white light

[lime mesa]

any mods for better performance?

[lime mesa]

not really, but there's definitely optimal settings to be found for your hardware.

[hearty wasp]

just use FSR

[lime mesa]

any of you clever modders figured out a fix for the busted textures? workaround seems to be either raising or lowering texture quality...but eventually that breaks, so you gotta change it again.

[hearty wasp]

no

just report vanilla issues to HG's ZenDesk

if I'm to guess tho they may've did it to increase performance

and/or accommodate for the switch

[lime mesa]

!hg

[hardy aurora]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests

[livid mica]

If I get the game for PC will I be able to increase the base parts upload limit in the root files?

[lime mesa]

yes, but bases over a certain number aren't visible in multiplayer.

[lime mesa]

@chilly oxide check this

[chilly oxide]

Thanks.

[teal lance]

Dont remember this type of x wing from sw

[teal lance]

Also why is gumsks exomech hardframe colour mod not working with enjoyable quicksilver?

The game wont launch with them both

[vale iron]

There's no reason they should have any kind of conflict. Nothing else out there should edit the same file as hardframe reskin

[steel crypt]

@lime mesa This is a personal mod of mine for grass. It does some LOD stuff and lil size variation and thinning. I get some FPS from it.

[pine saffron]

hello, is there a mod that makes animals invincible? i really hate running them over with exocraft

[hasty stag]

i don´t know one sry, but what´s your favourite mod for NMS guys?

[hearty wasp]

Sean

[teal lance]

So... it should launch, theres no reason why not, butit still doesnt...

[merry wasp]

Most of the ones i made myself

If i have to choose unique exocrafts and instant actions/scan are my must haves

And inventory rebalance

[hasty stag]

Hmmmm, interesting, actually i think i like the Fantasy Reborn 2.0 mod the most

[hearty wasp]

the quicksilver mod may just be fucking up the game alone

use the lua if it has one

[teal lance]

Ok thanks

[lime mesa]

Thanks man

[hearty wasp]

Ships of Moar 2.2:
Added 9 new ships:

Star Wars Cloud Car
Star Wars E Wing
Star Wars XJ5
Star Wars Delta-7
1989 Batwing
Star Citizen Ageis Nemesis
Custom "RX4500"
Custom "C1280"
Custom "Predator Nighthawk"
AMUMSS script - Added "GShip" collection to include all GShip custom ships in the generation pool. Requires GShip Custom Ships to be installed separately

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1064

Check out the new gallery to easily find your ship to include in your custom collection: https://imgur.com/a/lzMDHuA

^ also new "Give Me Shuttles or Give Me Death" pak and lua - makes the game only spawn Shuttles (which this mod replaces) (Exotics still has a small chance to spawn)

[steel crypt]

"Give Me Shuttles or Give Me Death"
I approve your name. 😂

[hearty wasp]

I can finally watch more Mandalorian tonight

tbh that's what got me wanting to put more ships in

if Obi Wan is good maybe there'll be more coming

[hearty wasp]

Yeet if you guys think it's self-advertising but I wrote something on developing the BuildFrame mods
https://ko-fi.com/post/Making-a-Framework-for-a-Better-Base--BuildFrame-F1F6BUGGJ?justpublished=true&alias=Making-a-Framework-for-a-Better-Base--BuildFrame-F1F6BUGGJ

[granite flint]

Hear me out

[lime mesa]

This is the discord link

[magic lava]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[magic lava]

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[lime mesa]

just go to a different system

[lime mesa]

sweet now I can be the evil traveler I always wanted to be https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2211

[lime mesa]

someone should make a mod to make wiring loom cheaper or craftable if thats even possible

[late mirage]

Anyone know where freighter base layout is in the save json?

Trying to fix this: #nms-questions message

I have a room which is clipping outside of the buildable grid, and I can't seem to remove it normally

eh, nvm - PersistentPlayerBases

[devout osprey]

I don't currently run any mods on my PC NMS. Back when I did, the only mod I ran was the one which increased the speed of the refiners. I'm thinking of re-enabling that and was also wondering if there is the same thing for the Nutrient Processor speed. Is there?

If so anyone have links to the current best version of those one or two mods?

[rapid sandal]

The speed is based on the TimeToMake field for each recipe (refiner or cooking, both are defined in METADATA/REALITY/TABLES/NMS_REALITY_GCRECIPETABLE.MBIN).
NMSMB has a trivial script (Recipe_Fast) to set all recipes TimeToMake = 1.
https://github.com/cmkushnir/NMSModBuilder
You could also goto No Man's Sky - Creative & Sharing Hub discord server and use their bot to gen a mod pak that makes this change.

[devout osprey]

Thx. This is cool. I could probably do several small mods in one with this. I'll try it.

[cloud basin]

@lunar dew what is your mod list?

[lunar dew]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968?tab=files

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2022

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1326

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1500?tab=files

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2036

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2206?tab=description

[lunar dew]

those are all the visual mods i use

[cloud basin]

sick, thanks!

[lunar dew]

np

[lime mesa]

Btw fantasy reborn is a complete overhaul

[magic lava]

it's modular, if you want to customize

[lime mesa]

Wdym by modular?

[magic lava]

Take out whatever you don't want changed or if you don't like how it changes things

[lime mesa]

Oh ok I see

[fringe crest]

God tier glitched ship

Literally op 😫

[hushed bronze]

There is no escape, fellas

[gritty radish]

is it possible to change a companion's type (for example: turning a strider into a diplo) using a save editor?

[vale iron]

Yes, but you have to change all the descriptors too

[gritty radish]

mk

[gritty radish]

does it work with untamable creatures? (turning a rodent thing into a drill)

[hearty wasp]

it has to be a creature

and has pet related data in it

else it can break mp connection or cause instabilities

[waxen cedar]

HG with the sentinel quad reward be like

[hearty wasp]

They still haven't fixed that shit?

[vale iron]

I thought they would have with the quad egg fix they did, but apparently not

[steel crypt]

This will show you what filters are available in photo mode, but not with the in-game name.
<Property name="SelectableInPhotoMode" value="True" /> - is what you're looking for. To link it to an in-game name, you would have to look through the language file and match them.

[steel crypt]

@vale iron The photo/in-game vignette? It's a LUT?

[vale iron]

From what I could tell, the photo vignette on the top half of the screen is a LUT

[lime mesa]

The fantasy reborn mod will affect my builds?

[steel crypt]

DUD'S SKY - COLORS updated v3.84.3
Mods updated + 2 new mods 🙂

MOD_DUD_AtmosphereBurnFX_v3843
Replaces (first person) atmosphere entry effect with custom effect.
MOD_DUD_Heatwave_v3843
Replaces smoke/dust effect on some "Scorched" weather planets (Lava and Scorched) with custom heatwave effect.
*See mod page for more details.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968

[steel crypt]

I see you've been looking into that vignette thing for a while. If you tell me what you're trying to do and any clues you might have found, I can look into it 🙂

[viral crystal]

Hi i need some help, im having one conflict as what AMUMSS said and i though it gonna sort all the conflicts automaticaly when i build one script from 5 scripts i was using

so how to sort that one confilict i had with building a mod from scripts ?

...or i will send mods that i need merging so somebody can merge them and return to me, its just 5 mods

[hearty wasp]

AMUMSS already did

it's telling you how many it solved

[viral crystal]

hmm there was no merged mod in folder

[hearty wasp]

upload the report.txt

[viral crystal]

i see just report.lua no txt ?

[hearty wasp]

yeah that one

wait this isn't the modding discord

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[hearty wasp]

go there

you can't upload shit here

[viral crystal]

okey

i went in modding section i thought its about modding and helping with mods

[hearty wasp]

yeah but you can't upload shit in this server

because you haven't earned the role yet

[viral crystal]

lol

its not like i run for presidency xD

i swear this discord almost starting to have more rules than constitution of a country xD

[vale iron]

Yeah, it's bothered me for a long time. It's been so long, though, I don't really remember much, other than I got stuck at needing to edit a LUT. Couldn't find a freeware editor and also didn't really want to get that far into it. I might be willing to now, since I don't have any other projects

[vale iron]

The most important thing I want to do is mirror the vignette effect from the top half of the screen to the bottom half of the screen. I'd also like to set the default vignette value to 0. I've made the latter work before, but you have to hit a key to activate it when you go into photo mode, which is odd.

[lime mesa]

I hate having to set it back to zero each time

[vale iron]

I'm working on a 'Lonely' modpack and could use advice. So far it has increased system size; fewer freighters, pirates, random pulse encounters, freighter battles, and NPC ships; asteroid ribbons by Exosolar; no random NPC flyovers; more Dead and Weird biomes; ; no exosuit voice; many more uncharted and abandoned systems; and skip tutorial missions. Anyone have suggestions for other changes that would make the universe seem more empty and lonely? Should I decrease creature density? I feel like that's not really the same as lonely.

[lime mesa]

I don't know. Sorry

[hushed bronze]

@vale ironMaybe a great reduction in frequency of NPC landings at stations and outposts?

[vale iron]

Thanks, I'll check if my current changes do that and try to put it in if not.

[steel crypt]

Along with Exo's idea, those flyovers and ships landing to trade in the wild could be reduced.

[vale iron]

Yeah, I killed all random ship flyovers completely. Eliminates black market traders from landing, but I think it's worth it for the atmosphere

[viral crystal]

Hi again, one question is there a mod that will 'space out' planets more

i was waiting for developers to make them more distant from each other because they are too close to each other its completely unrealistic, and its bothering me from the start 🙂

[hearty wasp]

get a slower ship

[steel crypt]

@vale iron
Here are some values in AISPACESHIPGLOBAL you might want to look at?
<Property name="TradingPostTraderRequestTime" value="60" />
<Property name="SpaceStationTraderRequestTime" value="30" />
This one is the spawn distance from the outpost:
<Property name="TradingPostTraderRange" value="1500" />
In this section, you will find 4? colors. They are the trade lines in space. You can alpha 0 all 4 for removing the lines.
<Property name="TradeRouteColours">
<Property name="A" value="0" />
This is how long a trader stays at a pad:
<Property name="DockWaitMinTime" value="60" />
<Property name="DockWaitMaxTime" value="120" />

[tidal portal]

mods

[hearty wasp]

yes

[viral crystal]

so no such mod ?

[hearty wasp]

not at the moment I think

you're welcome to find an outdated mod and revive it with the knowledge it may diverge

[viral crystal]

hmm i doubt it exist, because somebody would use it already, and also its not that simple just to change values as with other simpler mods

maybe star systems are in 'contained space' so if planets are too far appart thet may go out of bounds

[hearty wasp]

there were mods that reduced planet distances

you just need to find it

[viral crystal]

hmm i will look at, but i doubt there is this what i need, i listed about 10 15 pages of mods yesterday but there were none like this

i mean, they should be visualy distant (if you catch my meaning) not just in 'travel time'

[hearty wasp]

you were not searching hard enough

try searching for words like "planet"

or the categories on Nexus

[viral crystal]

alright, still i doubt i will knew how to edit and update that mod(s) 😄

[hearty wasp]

well, you wanted the mod

sometimes pain's part of the journey

[viral crystal]

haha yeah, if only i have that much will to bother with it xD

[devout osprey]

I've downloaded the NMSModBuilder and it's very impressive, but after reading the readme.md I still don't know the workflow of using it. Is there a tutorial which goes past the readme.md? BTW, I am a developer, so I'm not asking this because I'm in over my head and need to be told that I need programming classes before using it.

[hearty wasp]

You can wait till cmkushnir shows up

Or you can join the modding discord and wait for cmkushnir to show up but you'll be less buried by other messages

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[devout osprey]

Cool. Thx

[brave oriole]

Do mods mess up my game if i choose to disable them in the future

like i see better reward mods for example and i wonder if they are considered cheating of any sort

or if they are allowed

[hearty wasp]

no and no

[rapid sandal]

It's rare but possible. Two cases I can think of:

1. Mod adds something new that gets saved in save file, e.g. new product, substance, technology. Believe game will just ignore on load when mod removed, but haven't fully tested.
2. Missions. It's possible for a mod to mess w/ existing missions e.g. skip mission mod, such that when you remove the mod those missions get reset.
3. ... three things ... it the mod alters the way seed calc's are done such that w/ the mod you don't get the same gen things as vanilla e.g. w/ mod you find your perfect ship, remove mod and ship may change if mod altered how ship seeds used, or alters where locations are placed on a planet, or its terrain such that your perfect base is no longer perfect.

[hearty wasp]

they can

but the game almost always resolves it on its own

it's as likely as the vanilla game corrupting your save because the mechanics of the data being saved is exactly the same

so if you fear the game would corrupt your save, you would just want to back them up in general

different how, in terms of saves

[hearty wasp]

ok, how unstable had modded NMS saves reported to be, or in hypothesis can be, compared to vanilla saves

[rapid sandal]

I haven't had stability or corruption issues removing mods, but I have had it, as the op asked, "mess up my game".

[stiff stirrup]

I have not gotten too crazy into the mod scene, but I have always expected stuff to go wrong, and make backups of saves before screwing around in the save editor.

[vale iron]

Never hurts to make a backup, for sure. I've never had a mod corrupt a save, though I have had it happen with save editing.

[hearty wasp]

it can happen

just as likely as vanilla would

[vale iron]

For testing: gLonely - creates lonely galaxies. Features: Increased system size, increased planet visibility distance, far fewer random freighters and pilots, slightly modified Asteroid Ribbons by Exosolar, systems are mostly abandoned or uncharted, far fewer NPC ship spawns, no random NPC flybys on planet, more dead and weird planets, fewer pulse encounters, fewer freighter battles, no trade route lines, no suit AI (except one hazardous flora warning message), skip tutorial missions (gaining appropriate recipes)

Recommended for new games. If you are adding to/removing from an existing game, save in the Nexus Anomaly to be safe.

[blazing crescent]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2217 idk if this has been posted yet but this actually works

[vale iron]

Yeah, we've talked about it on the modding discord and other than it not really being a mod, it's interesting. Someone narrowed it down to something in the NEXUS folder specifically, but not any further.

Probably one or many GEOMETRY files

[blazing crescent]

interesting

[lime mesa]

I've heard from people it's been causing more issue

[primal violet]

Here a mod for recoloring the minotaur hardframe if you have Xbox PC https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2180 @lime mesa

[waxen cedar]

Do you know what kind of plants snap into the decorative pot? @vale iron

the one which is unlocking in a bit

[vale iron]

Not a clue. I don't know much of anything about snap points. I'll take a look, but don't think I'll be able to tell much. Winder would be the one to ask probably

[waxen cedar]

Alrighty

[vale iron]

I don't see a snapping file to go along with it (it's PLANTPOT_4 in decorations), so that makes me think it doesn't snap with anything?

Do the previous plant pots, 1-3, have any snapping?

[waxen cedar]

Don't they already have a plant in their models?

since this one doesn't

[vale iron]

Ah, I didn't know that. Strange then that it doesn't have snapping, yeah

Unless I'm looking at it wrong, which is definitely possible

[hearty wasp]

They may just

Have no plant at all

Or

Work like space station back room hydro shelves

Uses the planet object table's objects

Check stray locators

Also

Snappoints are all in placement files now

Could just be in ere

[waxen cedar]

many thank

[hearty wasp]

yeah there's just no plant in it

may just be a piss pot

[wise tusk]

this mod has literally made the game playable for me

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[hearty wasp]

Someone in the modding discord said it'd be funny if someone actually just installed that mod like a pak

And then found the game better to play

[wise tusk]

Well, he just updated it with a .pak version

and yeah, the game has improved

which is nice, since it was something that many players have reported b4

[hearty wasp]

oh that's good

makes the joke obsolete tho

[wise tusk]

I mean, I know that the "mod" it's just a repack from an unpacked file, but for some reason that works

[hearty wasp]

the new one is uncompressed is why

less processing needed to extract and load

and geometries are big and compressible because they are models

[blazing crescent]

Same

[neat hedge]

I already asked for it in discussions on the official mods discord but i'll ask here too, current version of save editor?

Problem solved

Thanks gumsk

[waxen cedar]

@vale iron would it be possible to attach starship trail emitters into freighter models? Swap the freighter thrusters out with them