nms-modding

[ivory basin]

great community

if I can get this down I have big ideas for it

Like, planet big. With 10,000,000 health lol

but for now, I just wanna get freighter wrecking working right

and this is the last thing

[ivory basin]

Hang on, three things?

Entity files. :p

I said, entity files aren't all that's required to make a new object destructible. More or less.

I just don't know what else.

[vale iron]

You listed material, collision, and scene: three

[ivory basin]

Oh jeez you're right

sorry I'm... pretty focused lol

[vale iron]

No worries 🙂

[ivory basin]

man according to everything I can find, if we can figure out how to make something that wasn't destructible into something that is, we'd be the first

there are zero mods I can find that add any new destructible things not already based on something destructible

Though, that's all I can find.

[ivory basin]

I might have something

HULLPANEL, HULLBOTTOM, HULLTOP, HULLSIDEA

These are all folders in accessories

and none of them have entity files, much like the other non-destructible objects

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:Tutorials

Found this

[hearty wasp]

do you mean no standalone entity files or no entity attached

those are 2 different things

[obsidian tree]

Did someone ping me here? I can't find it 😅

[hearty wasp]

role ping

[magic lava]

<---- Was setting a new pin

[ivory basin]

I couldn't find a single entity file related to those objects.

[hearty wasp]

so you did dig into the scene exmls?

[ivory basin]

A bit yeah, doesn't look promising but today I'm gonna try some other ideas

What's really puzzling is, I tried completely chopping HUGE blocks of code out of things to see where the switch was... and it seems like it's either embedded right within the 3D model itself, in some list that has an unrelated name or... I don't know what o.o

[hearty wasp]

or it's the wrong scenes

[ivory basin]

You can remove ALL shootable and destructible data from asteroid entity files, they still get hit. Still break.

And I searched every scene I could find last night to do with asteroids, nothing obvi jumped out.

The only diff removing destructible etc from entity file made was, debris didn't spread out after they broke

But I had a thought last night in bed... what if whether something is able to break has nothing to do with the files related to that thing

but instead, the projectile that hits it

[hearty wasp]

not really

I think the ore deposits and the chunky asteroids uses a table and are hardcoded for their voxel destructibility

[ivory basin]

Hardcoded where :p

can't be a shader file, can't be an exml or I'd have found it...

[hearty wasp]

but I'm still p sure if you look into things like planetary rocks and plants they're controlled by the entity

[hearty wasp]

the exe prolly

[ivory basin]

The exe... I'll try IDA or Ghidra. And no, you're wrong, go do the research I did.

Strip the shootable and destructible components completely from all entity files related to a normally breakable object, try it. :)

It'll still break, just... weird.

[hearty wasp]

I did

that's how I added about 300 rocks

into Eucli-ea

well, 300 rocks and plants

same same

[ivory basin]

That's not stripping shootable data.

I didn't say adding it to a base object that's already destructible doesn't work. I said removing it from one doesn't make it indestructible.

[hearty wasp]

I don't think you understood me properly

I made em indestructible in the process of adding em as buildable objects

[ivory basin]

.....

that means it's the object class

it has nothing to do with the model or entity at all, it's how the object is loaded in

[hearty wasp]

or they're sketchnode related

or they're trigger action related

can't really check the former tho

since iirc the freighter cargo pods change into a "destroyed" model once you shoot it right

[ivory basin]

scratches head are you actually gonna, you know... help figure it out or? So far I'm just hearing a lot of can'tcan'tcan't.

I mean asteroids have no destroyed model except big ones.

[hearty wasp]

it can be a sketchnode detecting damage and then activating different mesh nodes that way

[hearty wasp]

I mean I can't dive into the files

but I'm trying to narrow down what could be the cause

[ivory basin]

Yeah but, you could at least try suggesting things that could help instead of trying to tell me how impossibly hard it might be lmao

I've completely overhauled every aspect I wanted, except this. And I will find a way.

[hearty wasp]

nonono I'm not saying it's impossible to break something

I'm saying what you've observed didn't match my previous experience and there may be some discrepancies on what is actually being modified

[ivory basin]

Well, could be my morning brain then. But I still think the projectiletable hunch might be a good one because, you know, it's not the enemy ships that trigger damage effects on a player ship. It only carries data about health and damage output, it's the projectile that does the actual damage.

Like a cyclotron ball is a physical thing in the game, apparently. It's not just a raytraced shot.

[hearty wasp]

ye

projectile table does define what kind of damage a projectile deal I think

but doesn't define what it can damage tho

maybe the damage type can define what it can damage but scene wise I'm not so sure

[ivory basin]

here's my thought: stations take zero damage from every player weapon right? That means something about hitting a station is diff from hitting a normal obj. Find that diff, and adjust that zero... problem solved.

[hearty wasp]

most of what we've tested was on players and cars and only splash damage has any amount of difference to direct hits

[ivory basin]

Oh I did all kinds of things with proj tables!

I can tell you all about it if you like

[hearty wasp]

does space station even have a shootable data 🤔

[ivory basin]

It has to

you can hit it for 0

[hearty wasp]

oh ok

maybe used for trigger a wanted level reward

cos that's what shooting the station does

[ivory basin]

Naw you can do that just just shootable data

I can make hitting anything trigger wanted

i.e. I already made hitting a ship hull a one star offense

Man it's so weird, everything points to the existence of a table that governs whether or not something can be hit, and how strong the weapon must.....

hang on

how does the game know that basic mining laser fire is too weak to break a facility door...

how does it know that a weak boltcaster can't break it but a strong one can

'cause you can hit 0's on those too, right?

[hearty wasp]

RequiredTech

shootable data

basically same with the power glove for picking up plants

[ivory basin]

No no, I mean if you actually hit it with a gun that can damage it but it's too weak it won't take damage, right?

Like a newb boltcaster will hit 0

but an endgame will damage it

Bet the station is doing the same thing, it's not taking damage from weapons due to them not being powerful enough

so where's the resistance table

/data

There has to be someplace that governs how resistant to any kind of damage any one thing is

I thought that was entity files but xD

[hearty wasp]

I mean it may still be

maybe check DamageMultiplier?

[ivory basin]

🤔

What if damagemult is set to 0

does it take none?

[hearty wasp]

maybe

[ivory basin]

'cause I assumed it multiplied the existing damage but... I can try that

[hearty wasp]

you can prolly check the entities you mentioned as well

for the doors at least I think they're in uhhhh

[ivory basin]

I can find 'em :) thanks though!

I thought of another less promising thing too

it seems this is an issue mostly with procgen objects

[hearty wasp]

well my memory is going away anyway

[ivory basin]

so, it could be that the model is actually surrounding the hitbox

[hearty wasp]

rocks and trees are proc gen as well

[ivory basin]

those are small tho

a freighter? not so much

[hearty wasp]

well the outside part's hitbox covering the inside's

[ivory basin]

^

[hearty wasp]

since the hull and the bridge are at least 2 separate parts

and the fact that the hull is often multipart itself iirc

[ivory basin]

Oh I applied damage etc to both those entity files, and that works. I just can't damage it. Here look at this...

#nms-photomode-gallery

I added autotarget to the hull :)

the reason I think the damage hitbox may be inside the model is, the autoaim targets a specific point in the very center of the ship

I haven't the foggiest idea how to stretch a hitbox, though

[hearty wasp]

with freighters I think they're mesh collisions

so you ain't changing those

maybe just make up some new primitive ones (cubes, cylinders etc) under the existing one

[ivory basin]

It's just so damn strange. One would think it'd apply the hitbox to the entire model.

To do all this research I've been comparing the ships to three things. Asteroids, cargo pods, and turrets.

I've matched everything from any one to the ship, spare for changing the scene.mbin called

Just for kicks today I might try loading a scene from something totally wrong like an AI fighter, see what happens

wait no this can't be a thing

stations are procgen and you can hit those

and that autotarget points to the tail thing on the back/bottom

my wife pointed out

procgen anomaly encounters such as the containment field, asteroid larvae, etc all take hits of 0

[hearty wasp]

I didn't even know they can get hit

[ivory basin]

yeah the asteroid larvae will even scream at you and hit you with a tractor beam

[hearty wasp]

I'm p sure only like, 2 can?

yeah yeah that's the one

[ivory basin]

oh no most of them can

child of helios can be hit too

just for 0's again

now that I think about it, p.sure the containment field can be wrecked

but not the larvae, not the atlas one, etc

hey uh, can you tell me something?

I noticed a setting in some file, idr which now bit I can find it again

"LaserHealthPoint"

it's not the damage output of the thing in question, and I can't figure out what exactly it does

I also noticed that projectiles have "life"

I thought it was time until culled but, no

🤔

I wonder if the damage numbers are in the UI...

That would kinda make sense. It is a UI effect, showing the numbers.

[hearty wasp]

mmm, maybe check a gun projectile against the grenade for life

[ivory basin]

Good call

then again there's also a setting for instant death of a mob on grenade impact so they may not need to weight it that hard

I'll try a few things

if a shotgun has more life than the mining laser there's a good chance that determines how "hard" the projectile is

[hearty wasp]

well I don't see a Life param in GcLaserBeamData

[ivory basin]

it's in tables>projectiledata.mbin

search "life"

everything about every shot item is there, even autonomy

[hearty wasp]

yeah I'm looking at the struct in the compiler's github lol

[ivory basin]

that've over my head bro this is day four for me xD

Only reason I took to it so fast is I came from Minecraft before NMS

[hearty wasp]

it's just the defined structure pieces of the data

https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/blob/development/libMBIN/Source/NMS/GameComponents/GcProjectileDataTable.cs

[ivory basin]

this is easier tbh

oic

[hearty wasp]

AMUMSS has an explorer that does this too

[ivory basin]

I've heard the best things about that in terms of keeping your mods compat up with new vers

[hearty wasp]

but yeah boolets and lasers are defined in 2 lists

[ivory basin]

gonna get it for sure next update

two huh

hmmmmm

can the mining laser ever damage a door even maxed out? No, right?

[hearty wasp]

I have no recollection

I haven't played the game for years other than for modding

[ivory basin]

'cause I know the projectile list contains drone lasers and uhhh possible vehicle lasers, as well as all ship lasers and projectiles

in fact I used it to double the speed of laser pulse fire in space

[hearty wasp]

ye it prolly does

[ivory basin]

they're light, idk why tf they were going so slow xD

[hearty wasp]

drone lasers are the sentinel one right?

like the one that's a streak but not a continuous line

[ivory basin]

The prerelease ship.

The red T-Wing

it's a beta sentinel ship more or less

can be modded in

[hearty wasp]

I think the streak ones are still projectiles

lasers I think are just the continuous lightbeam ones

the ones that does an infinitely long line

[ivory basin]

naw, I know the "lasers" here can mean both because I played with colors. I changed friendly pulse lasers to blue, left the beams green, and left the pirate lasers red. Star wars colors, baby!

Mostly 'cause in huge battles there was WAY too much green

this list even has properties for all the projectiles you shoot on the ground, and all the ones anything can shoot at you

even fiend and scuttle spit

oh also, this is the place that has the controls for the bullet scaling

know how your shots vanish pretty soon in space? I have mine set so that they become tiny pixel specs before vanishing.

[hearty wasp]

that sounds really nice actually

[magic lava]

It does

[ivory basin]

necessary, I raised combat effective distance to a max of 20ku

I also massively increased the render distance of traders/pirates/fighters etc

you can see their trail as a tiny dot from about 500ku

strangely, there was zero performance impact?

mostly empty environment I suppose

this "making things break" issue is my last roadblock before I can release this mod which... basically makes combat "work"

it was always the #1 letdown for me, combat. It felt slow, lazy, like my character was just sauntering around with no problems. Who takes 7 full seconds to reload a clip when they're getting hit with acid? xD

A feeling I've been getting looking through everything is, when they initially set out to make this game they wanted something like Elite Dangerous but with ground and animals etc. All the mechanics are there to make everything work, it's all just sorta... dummied and nerfed out.

Sorta like at some point, HG decided it was better to tone it down and make it a more casual game.

lmao projectile data has a seed option?... why? What would happen if I told it to use the seed?!

[ivory basin]

😂

I may have found it

at least for asteroids?

<Property name="Impacts">
<Property value="GcProjectileImpactData.xml">
<Property name="Effect" value="ASTEROIDEXPLODE" />
<Property name="Impact" value="GcProjectileImpactType.xml">
<Property name="Impact" value="Asteroid" />
</Property>
</Property>
</Property>

this is in the projectiletable for the cyclotron

[hearty wasp]

looks like the specific particle effect when hitting the object

[ivory basin]

One way to find out... chop it out and fire on one!

[hearty wasp]

shootable data does have a ForceImpactType that defines the type using GcProjectileImpactType

[ivory basin]

I'll be sure to give that another look as well

[ivory basin]

<Property value="TkMaterialUniform.xml">
<Property name="Name" value="gMaterialParamsVec4" />
<Property name="Values" value="Vector4f.xml">
<Property name="x" value="1" />
<Property name="y" value="0.5" />
<Property name="z" value="1" />
<Property name="t" value="0" />
</Property>
<Property name="ExtendedValues" />
</Property>

What exactly is "MaterialParams"

Also I noticed something

There's a "shield"

it's a shootable, non-destructible object with the material filename "FORCEFIELD_MAT"

it's in models>common>spacecraft>industrial>frieghter_a

there's also a related entity file

[hearty wasp]

params for the material

it's not really defined within the material itself

we p much just have educated guesses based on the flag sets in the material

since the material params have to be in a specific order

we think it interfaces with the flags based on the place in the stack they are

[hearty wasp]

that's a pre-release freighter

this one I think

[ivory basin]

Naw we have that one, it's a cargo ship

but okay thanks that helps!

would explain why nothing I can find will display the name override I gave the shield

digging a bit deeper it seems like that prerelease ship was supposed to be way more complex than the ones we have now mechanically

there was even a ShieldPSU object, suggesting we were initially intended to take out a shield unit to destroy the ship

Now I've seen people re-enable drone ships via mods. Would that be possible with freighter_a?

'cause I'd love to mess about with it, see if I can get it working again

[lime mesa]

is ther any mod to disable/hide the tooltips specifically?

or rather, any way of achieving that?

[fringe sail]

Trying to merge mods, and what is AMUNSS doing?

[hearty wasp]

do you have non-ascii characters in your file path perchance

looks like it had trouble finding your NMS folder (if you have set it up in the appropriate txt)

[fringe sail]

>>>  Checking Path to NMS_FOLDER...

  Path to NMS_FOLDER is >>> GOOD <<< game files found 

>>>  Updating NMS_FOLDER.txt
   "D:\Program Files (x86)\GOG Games\No Man's Sky"

After checking the files in ModScript it then seems to start going through all the folders on my C drive.

And then I have to abort it when it starts causing everything in my OneDrive to start downloading.

[fringe sail]

Issue turned out to be a Windows $PATH conflict.

[sterile fog]

Anybody decent with modding want to change the colors of the filters in the galaxy map to be.... not terrible? I'm not even colorblind and I have trouble distinguishing them....

[night adder]

@sterile fog There's colour assist options for the galaxy map in vanilla, I use Tritanopia, it makes red and blue stars super easy to distinguish from afar.

[sterile fog]

prob. a good idea. I actually have a mod that does it (and also makes the animations MUCH faster which is why I want to keep using it) but it left the default options for the star color (no filter) and it's annoying

[elfin forge]

What does everyone think of the No Man's Sky Fantasy mod?

[digital blade]

link?

[waxen cedar]

so which descriptors allow you to ride the pet?

I'm assuming I can attach such descriptor to any unridable animal type to make it rideable

[finite adder]

would you need to define a mounting position too

[steel crypt]

well, see....that is the tricky part lol

[rapid sandal]

NMS Mod Builder has a script to hide the notifications in the bottom right, and adjusts the timing for other notifications so that they only show for 1/2 sec.

[rapid sandal]

There are both AMUMSS lua and NMS Mod Builder scripts to do this.
I believe you want to look in GCGALAXYGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN and change the colors for BaseStarDefaultColours.ColourByStarType[GalaxyStarTypeEnum]
I found making the r, g, b 0.5 for the respective star colors gives the most contrast in-game. e.g. red stars would have RGBA = 0.5, 0, 0, 1.
Hmm sorry, that's for the unfiltered colors ... for the filtered colors ... (looking up).

[rapid sandal]

METADATA/SIMULATION/ECOSYSTEM/CREATUREDATATABLE.MBIN. Go through all creatures in Table and make sure there is a GcCreatureRidingData section. However, some flying creatures never seem to give the chance to make a pet or ride even with the correct sections present. Also you may need to alter the JointName for some creatures. There is a mod on Nexus to do this along w/ lua (AMUMSS) and C# (NMS Mod Builder) scripts.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1868

[fallow meadow]

You can find their channel with links here:

!CreativeHubLink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

you need to define which joint the player rides on in the entity

see HoboTown for a demonstration

[heavy oar]

@vale iron hey before atlas rises ui in the galactic map was hideable

its not possible anymore

there always ui ni matter what

[vale iron]

I'm very confident I couldn't make it a toggle. The best I could hope for is to always have it hidden

[heavy oar]

i asked a mod he said it was maybe hidden posible

[heavy oar]

@vale iron how the SR2 model going?

[vale iron]

I saved it for the night, looking at a mining laser VR mod I said I would look into for someone. The SR2 doesn't look very complicated, just some transparency things that might be an issue

[latent laurel]

can animals that fly very high land with companion pet unlocker installed?

[latent laurel]

nvm

[hearty wasp]

if they can't land in vanilla they don't have the animation for standing on land

I'd happily see them A-posing tho if given the chance

[lime mesa]

You can post or ask links to the mods here?

[hearty wasp]

ye

[delicate umbra]

Is there anywhere I can find seeds for ships, multitools, freighters? nmseeds.club is kinda nonfunctional now, and there's this other seed repo that's a PITA to navigate (nomansseeds.com)

[hearty wasp]

!CreativeHubLink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[regal birch]

hey, sort of forgot about this but i believe it's been at least 36 hours

[hearty wasp]

so who's gonna do the mods broke pin again

[vale iron]

Probably going to be a while before I can get to it now, with the new update out. I'll try, though.

[magic lava]

NEW UPDATE 16/2/22 MODS BROKEN

[obsidian tree]

https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/issues/425

many changes to make. This one may take a little while guys, so hope y'all patient! 😛

[fleet quest]

I'm about to transfer my save over to steam version, is there a way to un-upload bases so they're not duplicated upon transfering?

or should i just should just load the game on steam, confirm the bases are duped, then log back into xbox and delete them just there?

[fallow meadow]

To do it properly, do the transfer first, then go back on previous platform to delete the bases before re-uploading them on the new platform.

Not sure how the transfer will go if you already updated. Might have to use the previous version save(s).

[fleet quest]

im gonna wait till the update settles, realized it'd be a bad time to try n do it

[waxen cedar]

anyone know what this item is?

[ivory basin]

so I checked into sentinel because I've been working on that huge mod yeah?

effing telemetry I swear...

they didn't touch but two files I need, and it's going to be easier to just edit the new copy than merge because that's how little I need to edit

Sentinel official patch + Combat Evolved realism mod

coming soon lol

[waxen cedar]

umm

a friend of mine got a red warning which read something about file tampering

this isn't the mod warning

[merry wasp]

is this something new? (ie user submitted issue)

cause my output doesn't look like that tbh

[shrewd kelp]

Is there a mod that gives the shield recharge the halo shield recharge sound effect?

[merry wasp]

maybe

[shrewd kelp]

What DOES the mod scene look like? I haven't really looked into it.

[merry wasp]

!nexuslink

[hardy aurora]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky
https://discord.gg/nexusmods

[merry wasp]

1st 1 is the "official" site to where you can find mods

be warned new update is out so lot of mods might be iffy

[merry wasp]

gotta update this baby, imma cry

it already takes 7 mins to compile

now they added even more

[hearty wasp]

laughs in changed geometry struct

try half a year

[merry wasp]

damn son

still gotta wait for new compiler

can't do shit without it anyway

[hearty wasp]

I lost all my blends

so every single custom model is dead

[merry wasp]

oh god...

[hearty wasp]

the only hope is if the compiler can decomp/recomp geo files properly

[merry wasp]

well im pretty sure some of my comments will start filling soon

[hearty wasp]

and I can just add any new shit in

[merry wasp]

i have to find the new mods

but think ill update it first

then add the new shit

but for now all i can do is twiddle with my thumbs

@vale iron you on a roll? like 3 mods on the front page

[thick quartz]

does the save editor need to be updated or will it just work with the update?

[fallow meadow]

Both NomNom and NMSSE should work fine with just some new fields added that have not gotten a human readable name yet.

[thick quartz]

nmsse is the one made by goatfungus right?

[fallow meadow]

@thick quartz It never hurts to make a new backup for the new update though

[thick quartz]

im definitely gonna backup my save if thats what you're talking about

[vale iron]

I saw that. I think it was just because there hasn't been a lot released lately

[merry wasp]

well gotta update my mods

but cant Q_Q

still good job on your mods

btw GMech might have become...obsolete in a way?

still gotta feel the new mech movements before im certain tbh 😄

[vale iron]

It's definitely not a necessity anymore, but movement can still be tweaked some. I expect the files for that have changed a lot, though, so will take a while to get fixed I guess. Figuring out models will be my main mission, though

[merry wasp]

yeah gl with that

luckly i dont have to bother with those

[sterile fog]

Request: Please fix the quick/instant actions mods. Why they thought it was a good idea to delay every single action by a quarter/half second is beyond me.

[hearty wasp]

fast action is already up

try using Nexus

also you can tweak that in graphics settings too

something something mouse something something modifier

[delicate umbra]

Do mods that alter the cockpits of various vehicles exist?

[hearty wasp]

not that I know of

gotta be hell for VR

[sterile fog]

Oh nice, thanks. They have "hold to confirm" in options, but it's already disabled, and it only affects like.... half of the things. Stupid programming design anyway.

Seems like the person who manages that mod also hates the delay so much they fixed it near instantly

[hearty wasp]

it's also a pretty quick job since they've been hex editing the same file for like 5 years

[sterile fog]

Hey I don't care how easy it is I'm still very appreciative. Delayed actions in games is infuriating.

[silk rose]

I was planning on starting fresh this week and trying out modding for the first time, but then the new update came out

I was looking at the Better Planet Generation mod, but I'm not sure what changes the new update made and I'm worried that the mod might break everything

[hearty wasp]

don't worry

it almost certainly does

[silk rose]

Aww man

I'm not sure if I should wait for a mod update or just start a new save now

[hearty wasp]

you can always start a new save after you start a new save

[silk rose]

The new Total War releases in about 8 hours, I might just binge that for a while and see if the mod updates by the time I'm done with it

[waxen cedar]

so what about them juicy datamines

[plush urchin]

Hey guys, with the steam deck release right around the corner, I was wondering if the save editor works on Linux?

[obsidian tree]

capes!

although capes are maybe already known?

so far, nothing crazily interesting in the names of the new classes, but we shall see once we get down to mapping them all

[waxen cedar]

first time hearing about them

is it entirely separate from the custom capes on Nada or storyline NPCs?

[obsidian tree]

not sure yet lol

I think player?

[thick quartz]

Anyone got save editor seeds for exotic multitools?

[hearty wasp]

NMSSE uses java

[plush urchin]

Yes I know.. I'm just asking if I can use it on a Linux based system. Like, can Java be used on a Linux based system? I don't really know to much about it

[hearty wasp]

p sure java is designed to work on linux

like that's one of its advertised advantages

even then wine is an option

[plush urchin]

Fair, I'll try both. Push come to shove, could just edit stuff on my PC and cloud save it. Thanks for the input though. Still trying to learn this stuff

[obsidian tree]

java will run on your toaster probably

but also, obligatory ewww, java

[marsh eagle]

Proton is using wine as well so most windows apps should run

[tired urchin]

Hello everyone
I downloaded a mod in last game of nms in which i can buy everything from space station of galactic glode buying machine. But after update the mod is not working

And I tried fast action and fast scan mod there were not working in game earlier nor they r working right now
Plz help as I don't have much time to play games so it helps me alot with mods

[hearty wasp]

stop playing the game for a week or 2

wait for the mods to update

use that time to play other games

[tired urchin]

Ok

[fallow meadow]

Often mods break when the game receives an update. Due to this update being quite large, you'd likely have to wait a while before seeing updates for them. I did however understand that fast actions is already updated.

[tired urchin]

Thank you devilian I'll try to download it again

[verbal crest]

hey guys is there a mod to remove the timers from settlements? can't find one

[vale iron]

Yes, gsettlements, but it's most likely broken right now

[verbal crest]

Oh where can I find this mod? will keep an eye once it gets updated

[steel crypt]

Nexus Mods is the only place you want to get NMS mods unless you are looking for "A hot date in your area" also.

[verbal crest]

Oh got it, thanks 😂

[steel crypt]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2067

[verbal crest]

Thanks 🙂 will try it out to see if it's broken

No risk right?

[steel crypt]

"risk" what do you mean?

like virus?

[verbal crest]

Corrupting save files or anything?

[steel crypt]

or like game breaks

oh ....well it is prob broken right now.

[vale iron]

Very likely broken

[steel crypt]

Gumsk would know better.

[verbal crest]

Alright will wait

[steel crypt]

Other than that, no, Gumsk is good modder can trust any mod.

[vale iron]

I haven't checked, but judging by the update notes, probably broken

[verbal crest]

Oh are you the creator Gumsk?

Oh yes you are, that's cool

[vale iron]

Anything with the name gXXX is me

gJello is my mod for a Jello recipe, which doesn;t exist, yet

[verbal crest]

That's amazing, the issue was I want to play the game, progress my settlements but the hours waiting stuff is really not my thing. Keep up the good work :))

[steel crypt]

So, there is some work to do to get the compiler working so that mods can be updated and junk. Can take some days. Just kinda depends. @verbal crest

[verbal crest]

Oh so there is a custom compiler for modding? I made mods for GTA V for quite a while and we used a dll injectory type of thing there.

[vale iron]

Yeah, MBINC. You can check !moddinglink

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[weary ruin]

That has been worked-around in the upcoming 3.9.7W version of AMUMSS (that will be after the current updating of MBINCompiler for 3.80+)

[fleet quest]

tiny worm is best worm

anyone happen to know how small you can make these guys before they dissapear?

[eternal jetty]

No idea mine is bigger some how but smaller looks much cooler tho

[light horizon]

I applied java to my toaster and it did run out.

[fleet quest]

i'm not sure if this size is possible without mods, i was messing around with save editor while moving saves

[tidal portal]

are save editors updated yet?

[obsidian dock]

Can no mans sky on pc game pass be modded because it says that this game can be modded

[merry wasp]

check the pins

[fleet quest]

don't think so, but it still works on saves that are on the new update, i just wouldn't touch any of the new items/tech with it yet

i was using it this mornin

[tidal portal]

oki

[fleet quest]

nothing with settlements seems to me changed really, outside of being the location of the quest start

[tidal portal]

quest start hasnt changed tho its at your settlement…

get a call when pulsing in space from settlemnt

go to settlemnt fight off sentinels

quest starts on death of one of them

[oblique geode]

is there a mod that allows faster scanning

[waxen cedar]

my ps5 account had this for some reason

transfered it over. Apparently someone had managed to edit in the sentinel quad pet already?

[idle patrol]

Is there a way to use a save editor to finish my settlement?

[waxen cedar]

anyone looked into the missions of the upcoming expedition yet?

[vale iron]

Can't do it anymore, I believe. It's all server side and pushed out when they release the expedition

[waxen cedar]

Oh heckle.

Wait but... what if the expedition includes new models and such. Those will need to be brought in with a patch

[vale iron]

Yes, that's how I got the patch

Just can't look at the expedition missions structure

[waxen cedar]

ah

well that's nice so we don't spoil the potential story and such

if they add some

But things like in-game dialog boxes and such can't be pushed in via server side right? Those will also need a patch

[vale iron]

Yeah, I believe it's only the expedition structure file

[waxen cedar]

So if they were to add expedition dialog to a specific monolith on a planet Sean's Beard it could still be datamined

That's nice

[fast ibex]

Is there any mod/s that allow you to change multitool colours?

[fallow meadow]

Possibly, but most likely not at the moment as mods require updating, which will be a bit.
You could check out the Creative and Sharing Hub for seeds though

!CreativeHubLink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[fast ibex]

Yeah I wasn't think if it's updated just in general

[fallow meadow]

Easiest way would be to use seeds, as modding will most likely result in something only visible on your end. The above Discord has a lot of info when it comes to seeds and even a bot able to bruteforce seeds to your wishes. Of course there are other places to look for seeds, like #explorers-archive or the Coordinate Exchange Reddit

!nmscelink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.com/invite/zn4Xc5d

[fast ibex]

Do you think anyone will have royal multitool seeds?

There was a red one that I liked the look of but the patch that just came out today patched it so it's no longer at the location rip

[fallow meadow]

I just came across an image with a few which requires changing seed. Model remains the same though.
Check the Multitool section for Royal on the Creative and Sharing I just linked

Pretty sure more will be shared as we speak on the various sites/discords

[fast ibex]

Okay thanks man

[fast ibex]

https://i.imgur.com/qbwO7oZ.png I has the multitool I used the seed thanks for the discord links 🙂

Don't mind the damage definitely not modded at all

[random solstice]

16k 🧐

[fast ibex]

Yeah dw I may have modded it 😉 I only modded base damage to 100 that's all

[tired urchin]

Lol Bobby the buildery

Hello there atlas wizards
I wanted to check how many of the mods are available or updated to be used in sentinel update.
Any idea how can I check that.
And I was looking for quality of life mods and some other modes from where i can them out?

[ivory basin]

mods will take a week to a month to update depending on which ones you're looking for

And you'll be wanting to look on the nexus

!nexuslink

[hardy aurora]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky
https://discord.gg/nexusmods

[tired urchin]

Thanks you mi amigo

[ivory basin]

Not a problem friend :)

[merry wasp]

@viral badger the food mods you and gleam and... requested once is on git now 😄 https://github.com/Jackty89/FoodProject

[viral badger]

[merry wasp]

made me chuckle again

me and my stupid ass inspiration 😄

[merry wasp]

btw @slate veldt if you ever somewhere down the line are free and are looking for the code, i put it on git

[fast ibex]

Anyone who uses nms save editor it's been updated

[golden dagger]

Which one? Please and thank you 💙

[vale iron]

GoatFungus

[golden dagger]

That’s great, I know this morning it wasn’t up to date, thank you for the information 💙💙💙

[native nest]

https://github.com/goatfungus/NMSSaveEditor

enjoy

[golden dagger]

Thank you, that’s the one I use, they updated it while I was asleep xD

[fast ibex]

Sorry I wasn't more specific, I probably should have been oops

[fluid terrace]

Can anyone give me the golden vector?

[misty belfry]

I was wondering, is it that common that every NMS update brake 90% of mods build for previous version? Or is that just because of Sentinel update. I have had installed few graphics and QoL mods and now (without mods) I can't enjoy the game as well as before.

[wispy roost]

some one got a mod file with tweaked ship scanner ?

[vale iron]

Medium updates like this (3.75 to 3.8) normally break a lot of mods, but I think Sentinel is worse than normal.

[wispy roost]

looks like they tweaked a lot of stuff

well i find that a bit boring the ship scanner can only see 1 building in its range

and in a such small radius

[tidal smelt]

I have a question, I know that if you uninstall world generation mods while on a planet there is a risk of them breaking the game (happened to me once), now, I have a planet generation mod installed, that I assume doesn't work anymore after the update.
I don't remember if I saved on a planet or on a space station, is there a risk of my game breaking if I start the game with no mods now in case I'm on a planet?

[vale iron]

It shouldn't break your game; you just might spawn underground or up in the air, either of which could be deadly

[steel crypt]

When you spawn in, look towards your ship and use jetpack and get in ship.
Assuming you saved near ship.

maybe get lucky

[merry wasp]

guess i got my changes sorted out again

[dark drift]

Found out my Snappy Industry mod isn't working AFTER dismantling a lot of Extractors.... eye-twitch doh!

[dark drift]

the mods folder hasn't moved has it? I ask because I am no longer getting the mod warning on startup and none of the mods are now working (I only have a small few QoL mods)

[vale iron]

The disable mods.txt file was replaced. Though there's a good chance your mods are broken anyway

[tidal smelt]

Thanks, in the end I spawned underground but the game fixed itself and placed me on the ground

[dark drift]

Ahhh, lemme try that and see (still expecting them to be broken though lol)

ok 3 dead but snappy isnt one of them..... ooo mod warning screen, & its loading...

ITS ALIVE MWAHAHAHAHAHA @vale iron thanks!!

[merry wasp]

sigh all i can do now is wait for the new MBIN compiler Q_Q

finally got around to rework my unique space ship mod but cant compile it oh well

[unique night]

its been a while since i got into nms modding

(tho one of my steam screenshots is of a modded space station... looks nice)

i cant remember if i have to set up special mod launchers or whatever

i just want something to let my star ship hover in atmo

i know they exist

[unique night]

doesnt look like they work right now anyway

fiddlesticks

what's snappy?

[merry wasp]

most mods don't work, lots of stuct have been changed due to the 3.8 gotta wait for the new compiler

[unique night]

business as usual, aye.

[merry wasp]

visit modding discord if you need any further help

[dark drift]

Snappy Industry, makes things like extractors snap to normal floor tiles, so the 2x2 floors can snap 5x extractors on... like cuboid rooms & the solar panels / batteries

currently rebuilding my indium farm... I got 550k p 12hrs with 2600 parts .... am upto about 700k now with 2400 parts 😄

(havent deleted the floor tiles yet or moved the silos... thats gonna suck & take ages)

[waxen cedar]

okay so that thing

it's a firework launcher

You put in fireworks

am guessing it'll probably shoot the fireworks in an order from top to bottom or something

[fleet quest]

has anyone experienced phantom freighters that you can land in, but are death traps if you get out of?

i'm pretty sure ik what caused it, was just a weird result

and what i mean by that is that the landing animation is normal, hangar is empty except your ship, but when you get out of your ship the freighter is at a wild angle and you start taking space exposure damage

p sure what cause it was having duplicates of the same "save" on the same account, it was trying to render extra versions of my freighter

[waxen cedar]

Yeah. Those were the duplicate freighters which were fixed in the current hotfix version

I think it was caused by warping to another system and the game not unloading your freighter location from the previous system

[plush urchin]

Btw, did anyone ever get images for all the worm bodies, heads, tails, and fins?

[marble jacinth]

so i added a mod that was supposed to make more structure stuff and its not showing up in game

[waxen cedar]

Check when the mod was last updated. It's likely outdated now

[marble jacinth]

what date makes it outdated

[waxen cedar]

Anything released/updated before the latest Sentinel update is likely not working

so... anything before this week

[marble jacinth]

so everything

lol

i guess ill wait till the mods get updated

[fleet quest]

oo gotcha, thanks

[random sorrel]

So, I have this issue where i get the reshade bar on the top left of the screen telling me that it's unable to save current preset.
Thing is, the game's a vanilla, unmodded, fresh installation and I never installed reshade in it. Can anybody help me remove it pls? Asked on #nms-questions and they redirected me here

[fallow meadow]

Are you sure you never installed ReShade? You may not have done so for NMS specifically, but due to being a Vulkan game, ReShade used to then be enabled globally for any Vulkan Application. This has changed with latest versions though. I would do a thorough search for ReShade, because I can not imagine any other way for that to show

[random sorrel]

I have Gshade installed for FFXIV

the thing is, so has my friend who plays with me, but he doesn't have the bar on top

[fallow meadow]

There are still ways to disable it for games/applications, but the default used to enable it for all Vulkan apps/games. So maybe your friend has it setup differently

[random sorrel]

do you know how to do it?

[fallow meadow]

Disable GShade and check?

Check the GShade FAQ on the gposers website, it does have uninstall instructions. Not sure about disabling, as I am not familiar with this ReShade clone

[fallow meadow]

Maybe that does the trick, give it a try

[random sorrel]

it was already like that before i opened it, however...

[fallow meadow]

Then it likely still interferes. Maybe you can check if it launches (or part of it) upon startup?

You can do a clean boot perhaps and check NMS?

[random sorrel]

nothing on startup either

[fallow meadow]

I am pretty sure this is your culprit application. Not much I can do to help, as I don't know the application, so all I have is some basic suggestions, where I am almost convinced an uninstall will solve your issue

[random sorrel]

i always do a clean boot with only the necessary mobo software

wasn't there a universal reshade uninstaller somewhere?

i might have installed it for witcher and ff 15

[fallow meadow]

The FAQ is a nice pdf, with Chapter 3 = How to Uninstall

Alternatively, ask your friend how they have it setup. Pretty sure they know more than I do

[merry wasp]

not sure if the readme on this is... understandable for people

https://github.com/Jackty89/FoodProject

[random sorrel]

yeah I guess that would do...

[tidal smelt]

It seems that MBINCompiler got updated

https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/releases/tag/v3.81.0-pre1

[obsidian tree]

lol, beat me to posting my own link! 😅

[tidal smelt]

LOL, yeah I randomly checked the github and it was like "released 2 minutes ago"

[merry wasp]

what do i need to see?

[hearty wasp]

it's exactly what you think it is

whatever it is

[merry wasp]

@hushed bronze quick question for ya, someone else is maintaining your mods right? Can you explain how it works?

[waxen cedar]

that a new helmet?

[hearty wasp]

Xbox helmet

[waxen cedar]

Oh that

Visual design at its finest

[hearty wasp]

looks like the OG xbox

[waxen cedar]

Any indicators if the launch locker is going to be a QS item?

Sure hope it won't end up like the starship race initiator

[fallow meadow]

Not currently, as it would then have an icon in the Special Shop
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\SPECIALSHOP\

[waxen cedar]

These new freighter parts seem very off. They are base parts but seem to be more fitting for derelict stuff.

Also the railing doesn't make sense in current freighter bases as it breaks the illusion when you can see through walls and such

[hearty wasp]

they've been a thing for a few updates now tbh

the models, that is

it's how I put em into Eucli-ea

[hearty wasp]

here we are.

I like that whichever angle I shoot him at

he looks psychotic

[viral badger]

[merry wasp]

@hearty wasp maybe a new idea for you, a bikini sean skin for the minotour 😄

[hearty wasp]

I mean, I have the thomas mech with Sean head model already

if I learn texture paint in blender I can draw it on

[fallow meadow]

I agree, these new parts do resemble the style of derelict freighter parts.

[fallow meadow]

Are you talking about the same parts?

[hearty wasp]

I was referring to the freighter rooms

[idle patrol]

Is the updated MBIN compiler out yet?

[hushed bronze]

Mod updates rarely require meaningful changes. Usually if a mod breaks its because there are minor changes elsewhere in a file like adding one line. When that happens, the game's executeable is also updated to look for those changes and work with them, but an older file lacking those changes will fail, and often crash the game. An updater will take the changes made to older file versions and apply them to a copy of the newer file, so the same changes are made but the new version will have the official changes as well, so compatibility continues. Babscoole is handling that for me using AMUMSS, and on nexus I can grant perms to other members to manage the mod pages and uploads as well

[hearty wasp]

define "updated"

it gets updated daily but it doesn't mean it's 100% working for the new version

[hushed bronze]

Its always several days before the compiler reliably works for a new update. Rule of thumb, expect many mods to be unfixable for about a week. Lucky mods may come sooner, but nearly all modders are at the mercy of the Compiler

This one in particular seems to have caused more headaches than usual for the Compiler's programmers, so even a week might be optimistic

[idle patrol]

Darn

[unique night]

ah, mod updates have happened

i'll have to download plantary flight fixes tomorrow.

Maybe snappy industries. Hey, is there a mod that adds snapping points to like

the wood/concrete/alloy walls and floors

so its not just the round prefabs

[vale iron]

Laylaps Colors mod released
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2176/

[graceful turtle]

awesome

is there any chance of something similar with the minotaur hardframe?

[vale iron]

That's what I'm looking at right now. I have to find the files

I think they might be using material colors, which would be harder to find, but easier to change

[graceful turtle]

Ah cool, thanks

[unique night]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/957
is this any good, or is there a best way to use multiple mods?

[vale iron]

AMUMSS is what a large portion of the community uses to create mods. You can use it to merge some mods, though some people find it hard to use

[unique night]

I gotta get to bed for now, but I'm seeing a number of mods that look nice. Definitely want the ship-hover-in-atmo one

i'd also like to see a, hm

increase draw distance for things like di-hydro crystals

you have to basically have your ship's nose against the ground to see them and its probably the same on foot from 50u away

If you find a good mod for stuff like that link it for me to come back to tomorrow

[vale iron]

Anyone able to import 3.8x scenes into Blender? I saw some people looking at the new freighter pieces, but all my imports fail

[teal lance]

Is there a mod that allows you to recolour the sentinel hardware for the minotaur?

[hearty wasp]

no

there'll prolly be texture mods for it soon enough

if not, you can always do it yourself

[vale iron]

Give me an hour or so

Almost done

Is there a particular color you want?

[hearty wasp]

Hot pink

[vale iron]

Always the first request, so always included 😛

[hearty wasp]

Lmao

It's p infuriating that vehicle/suit colourisation involves a whole ass table

But then the multiple patterns thing kinda necessitate it

[teal lance]

Black and white?

[obsidian tree]

https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/releases/tag/v3.81.0-pre2
New MBINCompiler 🙂

[magic lava]

Thank you for your hard work

[hearty wasp]

I'm kinda sad that no one ever noticed the bubbles

[waxen cedar]

[magic lava]

I did

Someone asked me a random question about it I don't recall though

Did you replace the glyphs at portals with Sean? When you charge them up, and on the ring?

[hearty wasp]

well not yet

imagine 16 different Sean expressions

[magic lava]

Lol

[hearty wasp]

anyway most of my smaller mods are updated but there're like 20 of them so I'll just post my Nexus profile https://www.nexusmods.com/users/2666883?tab=user+files

and yes that includes anything Sean related

[weary ruin]

PLEASE NOTE
All users of MBINCompiler:

HG reverted the .exe to the earlier version 8223629 in the latest upload on steam, so changes made by 8232836 are erased (for now) in the .exe

Some changes to MBINCompiler need to be reverted too and changes to structures for 8232836 may or may not be right for 8223629 (meaning be patient again)

Hoping HG drops 8234313 soon so we can go forward again...

AND drops 8234313 on steam 🤗

[unique night]

im not really up to trying to use AMUMSS...

i'll just try to get planet flight fixes working

[hearty wasp]

you just run a bat by double clicking on a file

you should really try to use it at least once

else you're really limiting your choices

[unique night]

i just got a bunch of error messages

and i dont really have the energy to deal with stubborn mod troubleshooting rn.

Product Version:   2.0.1.5
LibMBIN Version:   Undetermined
AMUMSS Version:    3.9.5.94W

OS Name:           Microsoft Windows 10 Home
OS Version:        6.2.9200.0
OS Platform:       x64
Physical Memory:   56.97GB / 63.93GB (Free / Total)
Virtual Memory:    131,067.30GB / 131,072.00GB (Free / Total)

Error Output:
System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: StartIndex cannot be less than zero.
Parameter name: startIndex
   at System.String.Substring(Int32 startIndex, Int32 length)
   at NMSPCBANKSExplorer.FormNMSPakExplorer.FormNMSPakExplorer_Shown(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnShown(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallbackHelper(Object obj)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallback(ThreadMethodEntry tme)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallbacks()``````
if you're curious

im not even getting the 'mod warning' startup

so its possible i cant even get the basic ones right

[hearty wasp]

have you tried running BUILDMOD first

actually I can see you prolly haven't since you're not on the newest version

so run BUILDMOD a few times in succession until it doesn't update itself anymore

[unique night]

i already tried it a few times in succession

do i need to just

keep doing it until its personally satisfied or

[hearty wasp]

and it doesn't update itself?

[unique night]

i did it a few more types

leading to it automatically working without seeking updates after

what, 6 total auto-updates

most programs check for updates once and then download the latest; they dont need to do it in six stages

[hearty wasp]

ok, run it and tell me what version it tells you it's on

[unique night]

 CurrentVersion = [3.9.5.98W]

 ===> No further update currently available```

[hearty wasp]

ok, now it should work

if any of your mods provide a lua file

put that into the ModScript folder

[unique night]

pcbanks explorer doesnt immediately crash this time at least

[hearty wasp]

you don't need it if you're not making mods

[unique night]

right...

so, where do i put my downloaded mods and where do i put the processed ones to make them work in game

[hearty wasp]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Mods

this page has instructions for paks

for luas, you just put the lua files into ModScript and run BUILDMOD

it'll ask you if you want it to put the generated mods into the proper palce for you

just press A when that happens

[unique night]

i feel weary even looking at this, but i'll take it into consideration. this should at least get my paks working.

aha

well, the one mod i was aiming for works

and thats probably good enough

least for now

[hearty wasp]

cool

godspeed

[unique night]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1921
looking forward to seeing this update

its got a 'not updated for sentintel yet' warning which is a good sign

indicates mod author is aware and on top of it

[hearty wasp]

gumsk may have something similar but I don't remember

[sterile fog]

any mod that makes exotics land.... faster?

like, my exotic takes SO LONG to land, it just hangs in the air for like 4 seconds before going down]

[hearty wasp]

search "ship" or "landing" on Nexus?

it had been done before but I dunno if someone's still doing it

[unique night]

is it unique to exotics?

[weary ruin]

@hearty wasp Good work helping with AMUMSS!

[lime mesa]

can someone here make a mod for me that put snapping back in freighters for the stuff thats not snappable anymore

idk if this is too much to ask for

[sterile fog]

as far as I know, yes. all of the rest of my ships land in roughly the same speed

[unique night]

Curious.

Also, is there a mod to let starship weapons target sentinels on planets?

With a mod to let you hover your ship it becomes clear most projectiles pass right through them

Save for your lasers

[vale iron]

Do they pass through or do no damage? There's a table that defines how much damage different types of things take from different weapons. They may have the sentinels at multiplier 0

[unique night]

pass through

dont hit

if they have splash damage and hit the ground near the sentinels then they take damage

[waxen cedar]

Apparently rocket lockers are also portable chests that store their item data inside even when carried in inventory

this is new

[hearty wasp]

I mean, it's just a physics object and an inventory

[hearty wasp]

ey was someone talking about a broken tech snapping mod?

I'm wondering how broke it is

[obsidian tree]

https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/releases/tag/v3.81.0-pre3
Enjoy yo

Also, for anyone not in the modding discord, I have been working on redoing my audio editor, just released a new version of that now... It has no github page yet because I need to get my shit sorted out for that repo, but I'll get on that as soon as it's mature enough...

[hearty wasp]

Sean & Furious: Interia Drifto
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1941

[tidal smelt]

is there any up to date mod that removes settlment timers?

[vale iron]

Yeah I just updated gsettlement about 3 hours ago

[tidal smelt]

Nice! Thanks

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1017
These hobos got new clothes

just enabled them to have the new exosuit parts

[unique night]

save editing indicates that storage containers can be made larger already

id like to see a mod to expand them to be max size by default

they start at 20 and can edited to 48 as it is

given that they're gigantic pieces of powered industry id say its fair lol

[umbral perch]

so for modding no mans sky, does it matter if the my game is using the latest version? i see mbin uses experimental

[obsidian tree]

We always target the absolutely latest version as it allows us to stay ahead, so if we get it working for experimental and then experimental is pushed to public, we already have a version that works

[umbral perch]

and im confused in what to change for cmkNMS release

[hearty wasp]

depends on the mod you're installing

[umbral perch]

not installing creating

[hearty wasp]

then depends on the compiler version you're using

see monkeyman's msg

[umbral perch]

where?

[hearty wasp]

above

[umbral perch]

so would i just leave the .txt alone?

the video mentioned in this sub tells me to duplicate a line and change it but idk what to change it to, im pretty sure 3.81 is the latest and same with mbin

[hearty wasp]

are you using the C# mod builder?

[umbral perch]

yeah

just got a bunch of errors trying to unpack the game files ugh

[hearty wasp]

I don't personally use that, but cmkushnir comes up here relatively frequently

but we have a channel dedicated to it in the modding server

I forgor the command

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[hearty wasp]

eyyy

[umbral perch]

joined

[steel crypt]

NMS public is 3.82 and latest compiler 3.81-pre3 works on that version.

[lime mesa]

does mission progress still break at wires?

[sudden wasp]

Who will rid me of these meddlesome asteroids?

[steel crypt]

DUD'S SKY on Nexus mods will have an asteroid mod you might like as soon as I can update it. Maybe within a day?

[sudden wasp]

@steel crypt Thank you! I’ll watch for it. I’ve been using some of your mods for years now on and off - i really appreciate your hard work and creativity and your efforts to keep your mods updated. They have helped me to almost 3K hours of well-spent time. Again, Thank You!

[raven dew]

What will happen to my bases when I install the improved planet generation mod?

[umbral perch]

im not sure that mod is up to date

[hearty wasp]

if the mod alters terrain generation, the terrain will change

if it doesn't , it will not

you can extrapolate the result

[vale iron]

@regal birch How fast backwards do you want to be able to go? And you only want to change it for planets, right?

[steel crypt]

All mods updated for NMS v3.82 🙂
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/507
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2022

@sudden wasp 👆

[zenith skiff]

Wish someone would mod in "Aircar" type control :):)

[hearty wasp]

well there's always time to keep wishing

[steel crypt]

I mean just out of curiosity....what is "Aircar"?

[hearty wasp]

more 6DoF I guess?

[steel crypt]

In that case it could be done. You could make that thing just flip all around like a baseball going through the air. Not my cup of tea, but could be done.

[round sinew]

@smoky wing hey, i'd like to donate a few dollars so you can drink a cup of coffee or something you like - but you don't have a donate button on your userprofile on nexus mods. any other way we can do this?

[sudden wasp]

@steel crypt 🙏🏻

[slate veldt]

out of curiosity, was anything in particular broken with DS-C since 3.80/3.82?
I didn't notice any issues with it

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1017
I messed up and made Hobos crash the game but they don't anymore

[unique night]

An asteroid mod, huh? Be nice to have asteroids placed into easily blasted rings rather then all over.

Still thinking about that container mod I want. Might be something I can throw together as a script myself, but I'm doubtful

[regal birch]

Probably about -100u/s, if it has acceleration, like in space. and yeah, only on planets, cause you cant go backwards there right now.

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/367

• Updated with MBINCompiler v3.82.0-Pre1
• AMUMSS Script - BUILD_ANYWHERE toggle now enables every Eucli-ea object to be built outside base boundaries
• Known issue: Daaitau-Geihai "Walker Head" decoration missing middle part of the head

[steel crypt]

With colors? Ummm let's see, Things in weird biomes would have multiple issues including not using the latest texture format for some things. The "skies" mod would have several issues and be missing new content/code that is not in the older version's globals.

[slate veldt]

I must have gotten lucky 🤷‍♂️
I didn't even notice any issues with it
I guess I'll know if anything suddenyl changes from the other day

I didn't go to any weird biomes though, i dont think

[idle patrol]

Could I maybe edit the JSON file to fix my glitched quest?

[idle patrol]

Nope

[vale iron]

What quest

[idle patrol]

The sentinel quest

Or somehow skip the message to the terminal at the settlement cuz I haven’t gotten it for like a week

[vale iron]

What step are you on and what is happening?

@regal birch I'll have you a mod in about 5 minutes, if you have time to test it

[idle patrol]

I’m on the lost watchman and I just don’t get the anomalous message at my administrator terminal at my settlement

[regal birch]

I might

[vale iron]

Ok, one second and we can get it fixed. First, make sure the mission is active in your log. Then save the game. Open the game in save editor (I use goat fungus currently). Go to edit raw JSON. Once you get there I'll catch up and help

[idle patrol]

Ok

I’m there

[vale iron]

@regal birch Here you go

@idle patrolGo to PlayerStateData\CurrentMissionID

[idle patrol]

Ok

[idle patrol]

I’m there

[vale iron]

What is the mission name?

[idle patrol]

“^SENTINELS_1”

[vale iron]

ok, that's what I thought. Now go to MissionProgress, then search for SENTINELS_1. It is case sensitive, unless you uncheck the default box

[idle patrol]

Ok

I’m there

[vale iron]

What is the progress number?

[idle patrol]

21

[vale iron]

Probably 27 or so

Ok, now you get to play around until you get something that works. Try advancing it to 25, saving twice (once in JSON, once on main tab), then reload

[idle patrol]

Ok

[fluid bough]

heyyyy

nms has mods!!!

[vale iron]

It does indeed

[idle patrol]

What is the sentinel_pre?

[fluid bough]

😭😭 thats lit

[vale iron]

I don't know. I never had to mess with it. I got stuck at 27

[idle patrol]

Ok

[fluid bough]

@vale iron i dont have any mods for nms, would you suggest some useful ones , im on xbox

[vale iron]

You would only be able to use them if you are using GamePass to play on PC, unfortunately

[idle patrol]

@vale iron it worked thank you so much

[fluid bough]

word

[vale iron]

Awesome!

[smoky wing]

Oh, hey thanks for the thought man! I don't currently have a paypal account, so never really considered it. Maybe I'll have to look into getting that setup in the future.

[round sinew]

hey! oh, uh, well, perhaps if there's another way that you'd prefer, let me know. if there isn't, i'd have you promise that if/when you do get paypal setup in the future, you let me know so i can send you a little something, just as a token of appreciation for the work you've done.:D

[regal birch]

unsure if i just installed the mod wrong but it doesnt seem to work. i just put it in the MODS folder, correct?

@vale iron

[vale iron]

PCBANKS\MODS, not GAMEDATA\MODS. And you have to delete DISABLEMODS.TXT from PCBANKS

[regal birch]

it works great!

thanks so much

[vale iron]

No problem

[lime mesa]

someone PLEASE add more seats on the vehicles, it would make traveling together so much more easier

[vale iron]

Not likely a moddable thing

[steel crypt]

HG would have to do some networking for it.

Unless it’s in there somewhere already.

[proven dock]

I have read there are mods that both partially uncap ship speed and fix some pop in issues- is this common knowledge / accessible? I don't even know where to look :( think it's kinda sad that we can raise land speed up to 5kish but only actually move at 500

[vale iron]

Probably SENTINELMECH, SENTMECH, SENTINEL_MECH, or SENT_MECH. Those are just guesses though

[vale iron]

You can try just MECH, though I doubt that will work

[minor moat]

may or may not help, but the name it shows ingame (likely an oversight) is SENTINEL_MECH_NAME, could help find the ID?

[merry wasp]

Solution make a mod yourself

[proven dock]

Well that's helpful, guess I'll ask the Reddit since it was mentioned there.

[merry wasp]

!nexuslink

[hardy aurora]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky
https://discord.gg/nexusmods

[merry wasp]

Check there

Otherwise bibthink digging into the files yourself is best way, some people on modding discord might have an idea

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[hearty wasp]

I mean it's more helpful than trying to find something that may not even exist

[proven dock]

"Just go mod it yourself" has to be more troll than helpful, look his much more helpful "I'm not sure that exists" is

Just a personal gripe though, if I told people go just go compound medications themselves instead of doing it for them or giving them info I'd be called an arse in my expertise

[hearty wasp]

I mean you're talking to someone who's whole shtick is telling people to learn to mod because the modding community has been minuscule for years

[proven dock]

I literally just asked if something existed after hearing about it on Reddit

A "no"is eons more helpful than "nou" and

K? I mean, again doesn't really look like I indicated any coding of program editing skills, hence me asking about a mod's existence. Oh well though, I'm getting preachy

[merry wasp]

Never intended to be trolly tbh, you mentoined, that there were mods that increased land speed to 5k, so i assumed you already looked on nexusmods, but didn't find what yiu wanted. Hence why i offered to make your own mod.

[proven dock]

All good then- sorry for reading too much into it

For nexus mods, I did look into it but for some reason quite a few mods don't come up under no man's sky- now that I took a direct link to one from the mods discord there's a bucket load I couldn't find before

[lime mesa]

Any chance I could get some assistance with audio modding? It's become quite clear to me that the article posted on fandom.com is either horribly out of date or missing key information.

Please ping or DM me if anybody is willing to help.

[ocean pond]

What's the rule around "Cheat Mods"

[neat thorn]

Baka

[hearty wasp]

there's no rule

[hearty wasp]

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[hearty wasp]

join the modding server and find #mod-audio

[lime mesa]

Thanks!

[ocean pond]

Ok thanks

[stable pelican]

If you go to nexusmods.com/nomanssky you can see all the mods for the game

[spring wedge]

anyone got a mod for the expedition rewards

@ me if u do

[vale iron]

Consumerism

[spring wedge]

thanks, friend :)

[hearty wasp]

shrinking down the vanilla basebuilding categories so we can fit more modded contents

before this, the Kibbles N Bits category was completely inaccessible due to an overflow somewhere in either the UI or the build menu

now mods can work in harmony and no longer be squeezed by vanilla groups' bloating

[hearty wasp]

here it is with vanilla categories condensed, Eucli-ea. Kibbles N Bits, and Ultra Base Building all installed

over 2000 new objects have been added in this screen and now completely accessible for building

[jolly rivet]

Any mods for stoping the screen from bobbing when walking/running?

[vale iron]

Just search 'head' on Nexusmods. It's like the 4th one

[hollow jacinth]

after the 3.8.2 i havent been able to use any mods

tried mod manager/ manual , nothing works , no crashes either , just mods not enabled in real game instance

[sweet widget]

Just swap to external camera?

[hollow jacinth]

tried mods one by one , and the ones that are for 3.8.2 only

[hearty wasp]

did you delete the txt

[hollow jacinth]

yes

[hearty wasp]

what's your mod install path

[hollow jacinth]

now reinstalling whole game

its on archive disk on steam folder , steamapps common nms

paks files were there

and besides , the mod manager automatically found the path

[hearty wasp]

is your MODS folder inside GAMEDATA or PCBANKS

[hollow jacinth]

and it worked before 3.8.2

[hearty wasp]

check it manually

[hollow jacinth]

cant right now , already reinstalling , but i will , in 30 min or so

[hearty wasp]

mod managing software is far from infallible especially for NMS

Vortex hasn't been working well with NMS since 2.7

[hollow jacinth]

but it worked fine before 3.8.2

im not using vortex

im using community edition of nexus mod manager

vortex sucks

[hearty wasp]

if the game is using any mods you'd see the mod warning screen, and it detects em with the exe, and I don't think there's much margin of error for that

so usually the issue comes from the way the mods are installed

[hollow jacinth]

yeah never saw that screen after sentinel update

[hearty wasp]

yeah

that prolly means the mods are not installed properly

[hollow jacinth]

so which folder is right ?

[hearty wasp]

which goes back to your managing software of choice

the MODS folder should be in PCBANKS

[hollow jacinth]

in NMM i can manually specify where to isntall mods

thanks for the info , will test it soon

[vale iron]

And triple check the disablemods.txt file

[hollow jacinth]

rechecked everything , and got stuff working after reinstalling nexus mod manager

[cunning lark]

Is there anyone familiar with modding and using save editor on a PS4 I had some questions

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/853
Added Worm head to Fourth A Edition

[lime mesa]

Anyone able to test if you can save edit colours to the quad companion from exp 5

[steel crypt]

1 problem. The quad companion is not the quad companion. So, coloring it would do no good.

[lime mesa]

anyone has a list/recommendations for Qol mods? thanks

[vale iron]

You can't save edit either the blue or orange quad, as they both use a fixed texture file. The best you'll be able to do is a mod reskin, which I'll make as soon as they fix the blue/orange thing

[zealous hill]

Where can i find mods for NMS?
I am looking for a way to make more changes in the graphics settings

[vale iron]

Nexusmods

[zealous hill]

Muchas Gracias

[slate veldt]

k, run the standard bat

it should know where your save files are typically located

try the 4G one then

you already installed java?

try running as admin

select that st_ file

figure out which game slot is the correct one

look at the save dates

easy peasy

Discoveries tab

Known Technology

sorry, Known Products

yeah, i cant remember its specific name in the code though

save changes, exit the save editor

start game, load save, build terminal

sure, i guess

unlocked for that save file

or you could play and unlock it normally

dont let the save editor kill the game for you, thats all ill say

its a great tool for situations like this

we're still assuming it will progress the mission.
i hope it does and doesnt make things worse by mistake

[fiery flint]

I don't mod, but don't suppose one of you guys knows the build height restriction? I'm curious

[vale iron]

1000u above terrain level or 2000u above sea level, whichever is lower

[zinc snow]

I usually just build those cube blocks really, really high until it doesn't let me anymore, then build below it.

[fiery flint]

Thankyou.

[fiery flint]

I'll give that a try.

[zinc snow]

You'll need a lot of ferrite, though

just a heads up

[fiery flint]

Oh, yeah, id imagine 2 stacks of pure ferrite is no where near enough xD

[slate veldt]

Hey @vale iron, i probably asked long ago but any chance this is possible?
custom ship mod that just removes the squid tentacles and makes the upper portion larger?

[zinc snow]

People have modded in custom ships from Star Wars and other popular franchises, so something like this definitely seems possible.

[hearty wasp]

looks p ez

just comment out those parts and you're good to go

just disregard the invisible ass

eh, this looks better

just scale up the cockpit_A reference node

[slate veldt]

Possible to sneak in the royal landing legs?

Or wait...i actually dont remember what the landing legs on a squid even look like 🤣

[slate veldt]

oh god, thats funny as hell

reminds me of those cheap wind up toys lmao

[vale mason]

Does anyone know what file the data which determines how fast your hazard protection falls in different game modes (IE, classic vs survival) is stored?

in the unpacked files, that is

[lime mesa]

Cartoon cars xD

[native current]

There's some way to see random hosted games?

[lime mesa]

So I made this big table, but you cant resize chairs so I was wondering if someone could make a mod to to change this, and I want the character to be the same size when he sits down in it

[vale iron]

gBase should let you resize anything, as long as you don't try snapping it

I have no clue how the interaction would work with it

[hearty wasp]

locators stay at the same locations

just like snappoints

there's a reason they aren't scalable in vanilla

[vale iron]

That's what I was guessing. Too bad

[odd stag]

I just updated my Less Asteroids (https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1802/?tab=description) and No Asteroids (https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1888/?tab=description) mod.
Have fun 🙂

[young zealot]

Does anyone know if there is a mod to allow 8-Axis movement like almost every single other game that you fly a spaceship in? It's a huge disappointment that the movement of spaceships is so primitive in this game and that this issue has not been addressed or fixed as of yet. Not being able to strafe, fully stop your ship, nor move up or down, is something that makes flying in space extremely difficult.....

[hearty wasp]

don't think we can make em

the up and down part, specifically

there was a space drifting mod I really liked tbh