nms-modding

[vale iron]

I think if you warp or maybe even just save, it will update the reality index back to 255

[fallow meadow]

Yeah, I noticed

[slate veldt]

hey, can i just...idk, delete the entirety of the shader cache?

sorry if that sounds stupid, im a bit out of my element since this install is outside of steam

[fallow meadow]

You can, it will just have to rebuild

[slate veldt]

upon startup?

[fallow meadow]

Yes, wasn;t that what it did back in the days?

[slate veldt]

um...maybe lol

i made a backup for nwo, gonna delete and see what happens

Ok, that did nothing

[fallow meadow]

@vale iron I am in Yilsrussimil (256 internal), but saving or whatever is not changing the internal value, but it does change to show Euclid

[slate veldt]

yeah, this is what im seeing while it loads.
doesn't matter what save or a new save

[fallow meadow]

Without any edit?

[slate veldt]

No edit

New save even

[fallow meadow]

You are not stuck inside something like the SS?

[slate veldt]

no, sounds like a planet

on either of my saves

new save oviously a planet too

I just cant see anything other than a white screen and the system name in front of me.

compass at the top too iirc, and that gets glitchy as hell.
leaves duplicates of compass icons all over the screen if i try to move

The only other thing at this point is to disconnect the Index.
I guess that could cause this but its not even on

[fallow meadow]

And it is not using Steam, right?

[slate veldt]

correct

[fallow meadow]

Could it still be using the Steam Shader Cache somehow though?

[slate veldt]

well, its never done that before, so i dont know why it suddenly would start doing that

Unless something major changed since October

[fallow meadow]

No idea either, just wild speculation

[slate veldt]

I'm going to disconnect the index and see if it changes things.

[fallow meadow]

@vale iron Ah, so indeed, it only changes to show Euclid in the GM when supposedly in Yilsrussimil

Teleporter still shows correctly

[slate veldt]

Alright, im thinking i have to give up on this. Hopefully someone else with a legacy install can test.

[vale iron]

@fallow meadow do the planets and/or bases match up with Euclid or Odyalutai?

[fallow meadow]

Odyalutai

@vale iron Could you do me a favour and tell me the name of galaxy -1 (if you have it)?

Curious if it is Pequibanu

Ah, it is!
@vale iron If you want any negative galaxy name, I can get it for you 🙄
Also this list, but not all that many there:
https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Negative_Galaxies

Negative also defaults to Odyalutai by the way

[vale iron]

Oh, that list must be from me, those are the numbers I have 🙂

[fallow meadow]

I can get any, just by editing to go there., Then I teleport to another SS and back to see the name

This is needed to update things.

[vale iron]

Yeah, I just sampled a variety and satisfied myself how things were working then gave up

[waxen cedar]

I've been to that place before

I remember the name

But not the galaxy tho

[lament mountain]

Any tech savvy travelers? I have a RTX 570. Would that be able to handle the "High Graphics" without frame rate drops? I have 16GB of ram

[round sinew]

@lament mountain keep in mind #nms-questions would have been a better place to ask; a 570 should be able to handle high graphics, with that being said NMS is very cpu intensive

[lament mountain]

Sorry. Thought that was specific to in game questions

[round sinew]

np; -help includes tech support as well

[lament mountain]

Noted

[solid flame]

Ok, so I downloaded NMS on Xbox for the first time right as the 4th Expedition ended but saw the Worm helmet and fell in love with it but cant get it. I downloaded NMS onto my laptop via game pass/microsoft store so I can use a save editor. I logged in on my laptop and made a new save by entering then exiting my ship. The save editor -the one by goatfungus- has no info, everything says none or is blank. Im sure i made a stupid mistake somewhere and would appreciate some help.

It won't let me send a picture otherwise I would have.

I put the pic in #nms-photomode-gallery

[fallow meadow]

You will have to browse to the save file location, top left > File.
See save file locations below:

[hardy aurora]

Save File Locations

GoG: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...
Steam: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...
Game Pass: %LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...
Linux (Steam):
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

Note: When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Shared by: @fallow meadow

[fallow meadow]

For Game Pass, I am not quite sure which folder to actually open to make it be recognised by NMSSE, perhaps 'wgs' to then select open is enough, else you get into weird container folders (numbered), to open one of those to have it see the actual saves.

Once recognised by the save editor, it should show with the file details

For the Expedition rewards, you need to select the Account tab at the top

[solid flame]

it still stays blank and says no file selected..... ah, all this for a helmet 😅

ok

[fallow meadow]

I am sure it is all in one of those sub-folders, just not quite sure which.

[shy grove]

reposting here for @solid flame in case it's still needed

Sorry, not a screenshot but a pic to help #nms-modding see what I'm seeing, sorry.

[solid flame]

thank you @shy grove

[fallow meadow]

Thanks, I did see it though

[solid flame]

so on this string: %LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs... is there something i need to put in place of the "..."? (im not super command savvy)

[fallow meadow]

You are browsing through the save editor, right?

[solid flame]

Um, yes?

[fallow meadow]

That is where you need to go though, but using the tools file browser. Then once in wgs, you get weird alphanumerical folder names, and have to open one of them to see if the tool then recognises it as the save path

[solid flame]

ok

[fallow meadow]

I can not check myself as I don't have Game Pass :(

[solid flame]

im screen sharing in the gaming channel

[fallow meadow]

I am unable to join, sorry. The full path should look something like this (copied from what another user once provided)

@solid flame Let me know if you can get it to work or need further assistance

[solid flame]

ok, i got the save file

how do i find the necessary command to give myself the worm helmet?

[fallow meadow]

Woot! Now as said, for both the Twitch rewards as well as the Expedition rewards, you have to check any you wish to add in the 'Account' tab top left

[solid flame]

ok

[fallow meadow]

I'll see if I can find the name for the Worm Helmet

[vale iron]

^EXPD_WORMHAT, I believe

[fallow meadow]

Ah yes, Feasting Casque

[solid flame]

before i save the changes, how can i back up my existing save in case something gets corrupted?

[fallow meadow]

For backup, I would copy the full HelloGames.... folder

It has a very long name though, but that way you do not forget what to look for

The full 'wgs' folder should be fine too though

[vale iron]

Save Editor also automatically makes a backup for you, but having your own is always good practice

[solid flame]

ok, after working out a lot of kinks, I finally got it to work! Thank you @fallow meadow for all of your help! I seriously would have been lost and majorly screwed something up without you! (and an honorable mention to @vale iron 😆 )

[waxen cedar]

sentinel mothership capital ship

too bad it doesn't have the hangar part

[waxen cedar]

😅

[waxen cedar]

hmm

each player has unique lobby ID

if you join them

[waxen cedar]

okay so my other accounts lobby ID was "0x37A3EEEBD9EAAFAD"

it's always the same, no matter the location

[fallow meadow]

I like what you did with the inventory tab icons 😉

[waxen cedar]

I wonder... if I turn my freighter into flyable ship and then start flying. Would the fleet just get dragged along with it

Turning it into normandy crashes the game btw

[hearty wasp]

you're assuming you can fly it in the first place

[waxen cedar]

Well this actually turned it into the police ship which was just floating there in parked state

am just assuming it could be interacted with

[fallow meadow]

@waxen cedar I believe NMSSE also allows to select Mini and Small Freighter next to Normal and Capital, but all it does is change the model to one of the Freighter Pod models, losing entry option. I assume all it does is change the referenced model to use.

[waxen cedar]

well apparently you can turn your capital ship into a derelict freighter too

and there are unused models for them

kinda sad that every derelict is that boring rectangle by default when they got perfectly fine models there

[fallow meadow]

Reminds me of the different default freighter bases possible, which have always been identical. A bit of a shame as you could in fact have diff default freighter base per class

[waxen cedar]

Okay it didn't crash anymore. Think I used the wrong type of Normandy before

[coarse yacht]

so where the entrance

[waxen cedar]

nowhere

not included

I turned my freighter into a ship

It doesn't show up on your owned ship list nor has any stats but you can drive it

It copies your current ships inventory

but doesn't get added to your ship collection. It's just a ship you can freely enter or exit.

[coarse yacht]

that is funny

[waxen cedar]

wasn't there an interactable shield/forcefield generator in the game files as well?

I recall once seeing something like that as portable tech

[steel crypt]

Not sure. I know Winder had a mod for one at one time.

[hearty wasp]

ye

I think the scene may've gotten yote in the last few big updates

I'd have a screenshot but yknow

the HDD thing

actually I got half a picture for it

[static wind]

Are there any mods that can nake the game run better??

[hearty wasp]

modifications to your PC, probably

to the game, probably not

[lime mesa]

Is there a list to what mods currently work for the multiplayer side? Obviously whatever I put in never seems to work,

Mostly for extra building options, storage would be nice but I don't think it works for me, and more options of ships in the wild without spawning them in.

[hearty wasp]

tldr just get your friends to start modding too

[dark drift]

anyone know of a mod that can help me track of base parts, like a counter?

[fallow meadow]

You could check this tool made by @twilit smelt if on PC
https://github.com/weasel-nms/NMS-base-part-count
Due to save compression implemented with Frontiers, you will have to export to JSON using a save editor first.

[dark drift]

awesome sauce! thank you Pixy 😄 ... time to bite the bullet and grab the save editor 🙂

[fallow meadow]

@dark drift Both NMSSE and NomNom will show part count per base, but neither shows a total or overview for that matter

@dark drift Actually, scrap NomNom, not sure what it tries to show for bases

[dark drift]

okie dokie!

I remember seeing someone post a terminal/dos window which had the counts in... now my bases are getting bigger I need to make sure I'm not gonna run out eventually that is

[fallow meadow]

Will show weasel how compression is done, maybe he is willing to implement something to avoid requiring an additional tool

[fallow meadow]

It looks alright 😉

[dark drift]

oh i dont mind having a few bits to get the output, I've got nearly a dozen for ED:O thanks for the info.... thats the one

I am assuming its best to use these tools without the game running?

[fallow meadow]

Should be no issue, unless either the game is updated by saving, or you make changes to the save with any of the tools.

When save editing, you will only get those changes on a reload

[dark drift]

yup that makes total sense

wow 10789 parts used already... oh I love that detailed report... ahh just what I was looking for thank you again for the assist 😄

[lime mesa]

I had realized that whatever the folder vortex puts the mods in, makes it not work. I put it in the MODS folder and everything started working finally..

But is there a way the refiners dont cost a million carbon and use up after 20 items are made? with the different container and item stack sizes that get increased?

[marsh eagle]

Here is a example of a html based system info export for a region in euclid for anyone interested.
It contains highly usefull info of 550 systems that help finding perfect planet/system configs or specific creatures. I can also create exports for any other region ofc. if needed.

[cursive root]

Anyone know the save location for the Microsoft store version of NMS?

[fallow meadow]

Is your exporter aware of shadow systems?

[hardy aurora]

Save File Locations

GoG: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...
Steam: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...
Game Pass: %LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...
Linux (Steam):
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

Note: When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Shared by: @fallow meadow

[fallow meadow]

@cursive root See above

[marsh eagle]

You mean systems after the max system index of a region ?

[cursive root]

Ty. Took me awhile to find

[fallow meadow]

I mean systems that actually show on the Galaxy Map. I know there are more that exist

The example region you used, goes well into the shadow systems as well

[marsh eagle]

I just inluded the first 550 which in 90% of cases exist. But I could include all 4096 if wanted sure

And via emergency jump you can also go to shadow systems

[fallow meadow]

Not sure if there is a need to include all, but it would be nice to know where they start for the region if you do include them. Not much of a chance there will be 550 'valid' systems, usually lower

I know you can still teleport there is you have it listed, or if someone or yourself made a base there, outside of save editing

[marsh eagle]

Most have 520-570. And some 270. I made exports for the entire galactic hubs

[fallow meadow]

Oh wow, I would love to see some of that data, considering you brute force this. My 'manual' research shows a much lower average

There are also regions with even lower than 270

[marsh eagle]

Yes 122 is record. So I say the first 100 in ny exports will always exist no matter what

[fallow meadow]

I am actually mostly curious about those limits. The shadow systems are fun though, as I have been trying to find all sorts of patterns and interesting quirks about them, but manual research takes a lot of my time to find patterns on a large scale

[marsh eagle]

What patterns and quirks ? That is interesting af

[fallow meadow]

Well, obviously they all exist up to the Atlas system (124)

All yellow to that point as well

Only after Atlas will the randomness for colours be added

122 for smallest region seems off ... because that would mean there is no Atlas system in that region

or are those hex values?

[marsh eagle]

Ah cool info. Well the code for that is very complicate and depends on the 3d environment of the surroundings and distancevto core.
122 is stated on the wiki

[marsh eagle]

Decimal

[fallow meadow]

220?

00DC

You mean this one?
https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Delta_Majoris_Hilbert_Umbra

[night adder]

@fallow meadow 217, that is the lowest starcount currently discovered in a region, by yours truly. 122 is the theoretical lowest possible starcount due to the atlas interface always being there.

Sorry, Atlas at star 123

[fallow meadow]

Ah yes, Atlas is always 122 007A

[night adder]

SysIndex counts from 0

[marsh eagle]

Ah ok

[fallow meadow]

Theoretically makes sense

Not seen it yet though

:)

[night adder]

And I dont know the rules governing it, but not all regions are all yellow stars til after the Atlas system.

[fallow meadow]

Ahuh

I have been intrigued ever since Atlas Rises

Although most my research was done last year. Just some oddballs long time ago that got me interested

It's nice to see an increase in interest to try figure things out

[night adder]

Most of my exploration the past few months has taken place in phantom star systems, in all 4 galaxy types - I noticed all yellow stars in Euclid and Zavainlani up to 123, but in an empty and harsh galaxy, the same regions had other colours starting from stars 0 and 4.

[fallow meadow]

So you have found low SSIs that are coloured systems?

Interesting. Just so much to figure out for that matter

[vale iron]

How are you differentiating harsh types? It's not listed in the biome chart and I can't find any files that define it. I'm guessing it's all in the exe or something?

[marsh eagle]

Actually thats one thing i could brute force

[night adder]

My wild guess is that all yellow to 123 will occur in every region in the initial player spawn ring, but no theory yet on what determines it for the other 99.999% of the galaxy, lol

[fallow meadow]

Recently I have been made aware that SSIs 0 will not get a teleport in the Space Station when having a base there. Done a few tests that confirm it as well, but want a few more for good measure. Most my findings I have posted about (Atlas CSD forum)

[night adder]

Harsh type galaxy is what i was referring to, not biomes

[fallow meadow]

I only recently came across some of the wiki topics on it

[night adder]

For planets, anything with activated stellar metal I'd consider harsh, except for corrupted bubble planets

[vale iron]

I understand, but the biome chart differentiates by galaxy type and doesn't have a harsh type listed

[fallow meadow]

@night adder Do you feel that amount of systems in a region is done to vary density?

(often really wish I could actually plot those shadow systems in the GM)

[night adder]

Ahh, because harsh galaxies have same probabilities as normal - the difference in harsh galaxies isnt biomes, its in frequemcy of extreme weather and sentinel aggression

[vale iron]

Ok that's what I was wondering because I can't find anything about them in the MBINs

[marsh eagle]

You can change some asm instructionsvonnthe binary to force show all stars. Done that before

[night adder]

And yes, I believe that procgen is used to determine visible stars per region for varied density, it is also used to determine which of 4096 specific points within each region the visible stars appear at.

[fallow meadow]

Yeah, not sure I wish to go there. I am actually not even sure I wish to make use of brute forcing for research. I love to figure things out, but making it a bit too easy might ruin the intrigue

[night adder]

Theres no reason to plot phantom star positions, the 4096 star positions will almost definitely form a 3-d grid, all straight lines

[marsh eagle]

The thing is for certain procedural stuff probabilities go into 1 of trillions. No way to figure out manually

[fallow meadow]

Also making all systems visible is likely going to mess up the GM even more than it already is, considering icons and stuff, although limited, is not being reset upon galaxy swap

[fallow meadow]

Ok cool, as expected

So with brute-forcing we can now determine how many planets there actually are eh? @marsh eagle How long will it take?

[marsh eagle]

No that would take too long 😃

But average is 4

[night adder]

HG didnt think 3+ yrs ahead when they set up the galaxy map - your save basically only has 1 iteration of it, because on launch, all people did was travel to the core and jump to the next galaxy, and start over again 700k LY out, so the chances of coming across the exact same region locations visited previously before the data for the stars visited there was rolled over to make room for new data were infinitesimal.

[fallow meadow]

I still dislike the fact travel has been made this easy, but oh well...

[marsh eagle]

Noone prevents you to restrict yourself

[fallow meadow]

Oh I know ... avid save editor user, but still a gamer too

[night adder]

I wish corrupt addresses always sent you outside the player spawn ring randomly, but aside from that I love travel in NMS lol

[fallow meadow]

Any idea why the shift in portal addresses, speaking of corruption?

I mean 0 is not available, but the last actual valid one won't be possible either, by Portal at least

Why not make 0 available and switch it all back by 1 so it all matches again?

@night adder Have you also noticed how some things within a region are always identical, like Space Station suffix, Spectral Class letter used (per colour). Space Station suffix is actually always the same for that region in whichever galaxy

Let me just link a list I posted a while back:
https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/shadow-system-research/7723/30

[night adder]

Portal addresses arent shifted, Glyph 0 belongs to the space station, Im guessing HG was considering setting up Portal travel to/from SSes and then changed their minds.

[fallow meadow]

Not what I meant

Does not explain why the last valid SSI can not be portalled to

[night adder]

Ahh, that one I dont have an answer for - fyi, that last valid SSI is termed a Shadow Star, can be warped to but not Portalled. Stars above that SSI up to FFF are termed Phantom Stars.

[fallow meadow]

Will take me some time getting used to. I have always called those hidden ones the Shadow Systems.

[night adder]

I didnt come up with the names, I just try to stick to the terms accepted on the wiki, or by the majority for things not yet documented on the wiki.

[fallow meadow]

@small notch Not sure if working or if you tried either, but these seem reasonably recent and worth a shot:
Dec 17th, 2021 https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2079
Sep 19th, 2021 https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/918

I assume they have a description?

[marsh eagle]

Not joking during the last five years I've seen at least 25 hyperdrive range mods 😄

[static wind]

Are there any mods that currently work that help with performance?

[hearty wasp]

I believe I tried answering it last week
#nms-modding message

[steel crypt]

@static wind You can try this. It's my personal mod for grass. It changes the density, LOD ranges, slight variance to size, etc.
There isn't really much as Winder said.

[hearty wasp]

the graphics settings is p much the extent we can change

[frigid ginkgo]

Can anybody give me a golden vector?

[hearty wasp]

you can get it yourself with consumerism

[frigid ginkgo]

How

And what is that

[hearty wasp]

it's a mod

[frigid ginkgo]

I'm on Xbox

[hearty wasp]

oh

[frigid ginkgo]

Yea

[hearty wasp]

this is the modding channel

[frigid ginkgo]

I know

Because y'all mod stuff

That's why I asked you guys

[hearty wasp]

oh ok

it's just not really directly mod related

but if you can get your save onto PC via gamepass you can edit your save

[frigid ginkgo]

Most likely not gonna happen

[hearty wasp]

ok

then you can prolly ask in the other normal channels too

because it's just the same as giving a normal ship to another person

[frigid ginkgo]

Ok

[lament mountain]

@frigid ginkgo I can get you one if you find me the ship seed for it through Google.

[frigid ginkgo]

What's a seed

[lament mountain]

Pretty much the item identification code. I'll do that part too. Can't imagine it's crazy hard to find.

[fallow meadow]

Golden Vector uses custom model, not a seed.

[lament mountain]

I might be able to dupe it then

[fallow meadow]

Possible to give to NPC on Space Station, then have someone else take it from NPC.

[lament mountain]

Ooh wait. Easier way. I just start a new save in w.e. mode they use and do exactly the method you mentioned after I redeem the gold vector from the anomaly

Cake.

[delicate sinew]

trying to use NMSSE and i am stuck

3. Run the bat file (or the jar file if the file extension is associated to java).
   I have both a bat file and a jar file

[fallow meadow]

Once you downloaded the blue link, you get an self-extractable exe, which requires extracting. Then you run the main NMSSE.bat

[delicate sinew]

oki

Where are the save slots file locations for windows store nms

[hardy aurora]

Save File Locations

GoG: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...
Steam: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...
Game Pass: %LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...
Linux (Steam):
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

Note: When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Shared by: @fallow meadow

[delicate sinew]

which folder are the saves in?

theres one folder named t, and one foler with random numbers and letters

[fallow meadow]

Just select to 'open' one of those sub-folders and it should recognise the path to see slots inside

[delicate sinew]

how do I get to appdata using this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873051405475258389/937134546787381288/unknown.png

screenshot of the save editor

[fallow meadow]

Select main drive, the icon with the small blue windows at top left

go from there

'Users'

'Username'

'AppData'

'Local'

'Packages' ... etc

[delicate sinew]

thank you kindly

AppData\Local\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs

ok im here now what do I do

[fallow meadow]

I am personally not familiar with actually using Game Pass with NMSSE, but from what I have heard and seen, it should look something like this when one of those sub-folders is selected to open, making the slots available under the drop-down

[delicate sinew]

awesome

now how can I transfer to steam

[fallow meadow]

Ah, now that is something else

Easiest might be using another Save Editor actually

NomNom

[delicate sinew]

alright

[fallow meadow]

Unless you wish to do it all manually

[delicate sinew]

i'll try this nomnom thing

[fallow meadow]

Prone to mistakes and messing up, but a good learning process if a backup was made to not care too much

Yeah, NomNom has an automated transfer option

[delicate sinew]

awesome

oh dang it located my saves automatically

[fallow meadow]

I would suggets to make a backup of the full 'wgs' folder though, before doing anything, just in case

[delicate sinew]

can nomnom do backups

[fallow meadow]

It should, just as NMSSE make backups when changes are being made

emphasis on should, and knowing how ot work with those

Should be within the root of install

[delicate sinew]

so for destination on platform transform, do i do steamapps/common/no mans sky?

[fallow meadow]

You have to make sure to set the target platform, as well as edit some variables before the transfer

[delicate sinew]

ayo

how are there 15 save slots on steam?

but only 3 on microsoft

[fallow meadow]

The 15 slots is just a total, doesn;t mean you are using them all

[delicate sinew]

wait, so can i have more than just 3 slots?

[fallow meadow]

Each slot consists of 2 saves, auto and manual, but in case of steam, each save also has an accompanying 'mf_' file (Steam Metadata File)

[delicate sinew]

ohhhhh

[fallow meadow]

So the amount of files can be like 60 total for steam if you use all slots

[delicate sinew]

ok am I doing this right? screenshot of nomnom -> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873051405475258389/937138528490508338/unknown.png

[fallow meadow]

Make sure to type the LID/UID/USN for hte new platform

[delicate sinew]

what do I set for those

[fallow meadow]

LID and UID are both the same and will be your Steam64ID

Your USN will be your Steam UserName

You will have to check your Steam profile page for UID/LID

Your Steam profile page has it shown on the right side (Permalink contains it, a large number, usually starting with 7....

/profiles/<STEAM64ID>/

The actual transfer button is the tiny icon showing between 'source' and 'destination'

[delicate sinew]

where do I find permalink

[fallow meadow]

On the right here, I outlined it

[delicate sinew]

i dont have that

[fallow meadow]

Are you logged in to Steam?

[delicate sinew]

yes

[fallow meadow]

Go into your Steam Client, then Library, then right-click on NMS and select properties

[delicate sinew]

okie doke

now what

[fallow meadow]

Never mind, it's not in the NMS install

[delicate sinew]

o

[fallow meadow]

Steam Client, top select Settings

Then select Interface

[delicate sinew]

alright now what

[fallow meadow]

Check 'Display Web Address Bars when available'

Then when you check your profile page inside the client, it should show the url containing your Steam64ID

Unless like me, you have a custom url

[delicate sinew]

it says id/turtleboi2480

[fallow meadow]

I'll look it up for you

Should be 76561198986232871

[delicate sinew]

ty

[fallow meadow]

Can you confirm?
https://steamcommunity.com/id/turtleboi2480

[delicate sinew]

and then do I do for USN my custom URL or my current username

[delicate sinew]

👍

[fallow meadow]

Alright, permalink shows it though (right side near bottom)

[delicate sinew]

weird i dont see it

ok so for USN

[fallow meadow]

TurtleBoi

[delicate sinew]

my current username (TurtleBoi) or my custom url? (turtleboi2480)

ok ty

alri and then what button do I press

[fallow meadow]

Tiny icon between source and destination (I put a green circle around it

[delicate sinew]

i cant click it

i click it and nothing happens

also how come for destination platform it says unknown

[fallow meadow]

Hmmm

Here is the FAQ I just copied from the NomNom Discord regarding the transfer:

Q: How does the platform save transfer work?

A: First open the "Platform Transfer" section on the Manager page where you'll then see some selections and text fields. The "LID" (Local ID), "UID" (User ID), and "USN" (USerName) are used to identify the owner of something (base or discovery) and needs to be changed in the process to give you access to your things on the new platform. This will be automatically filled if possible (you need at least one base in any of your saves) and doesn't need to be changed, except you know what are you doing. The source is filled with data from the normally loaded saves you see on the left. Click on the "Target Path" button to select the destination and it will also fill automatically if possible. If both is set up, select the slots you want to use and click the copy icon button to start the transfer. Once NomNom is responsive again you are done and you can start up your save on the new platform! To see it on the new platform in NomNom you have to switch the main save path to it afterwards.

Also note that there is currently a bug, that wont let you overwrite an existing slot. Make sure to select an empty one as target.

[delicate sinew]

am i using the right path? steamapps/common/no mans sky

[fallow meadow]

That is the path to the game files, not the save files

[hardy aurora]

Save File Locations

GoG: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...
Steam: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...
Game Pass: %LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...
Linux (Steam):
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

Note: When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Shared by: @fallow meadow

[delicate sinew]

still can't click

i chose the path appdata/roaming/hellogames/nms/st_<userid> and still nothing

[fallow meadow]

I can not really verify, as I only have one platform. I do assume you have to select a slot though. According to the notes above, an empty slot

[delicate sinew]

I selected an empty slot and i have no claimed slots right now, i haven't played on steam save yet

[fallow meadow]

I am however not sure how a save slot can be empty to be honest, because that usually means it would not exist yet on Steam

[delicate sinew]

so do I have to start over

[fallow meadow]

But still no way to activate the transfer?

[delicate sinew]

nope

[fallow meadow]

Figured as much

[delicate sinew]

you can dm me it

[fallow meadow]

https://github.com/cengelha/NomNom
Discord link provided towards the bottom under Contact & Support

[delicate sinew]

alright thanks for your help

[fallow meadow]

I wish I could have done better though :(

[delicate sinew]

no worries!

[viral badger]

Ope, sorry for the hassle, Dev - thanks for helping

[fallow meadow]

WIll keep an eye on there to follow the solution for future reference. Always worth to learn something new

@delicate sinew Only thing I can think of is the save being required to exist on Steam. You could try create a creative save real quick, claim the base through the computer that is there, then exit and try to see if NomNom detects the save slot on Steam to transfer to

[delicate sinew]

ok

[fallow meadow]

might have to auto save by jump in/out of ship

[delicate sinew]

@fallow meadow did all that, closed nms

now when i opened nomnom

it discovered steam instead of microsoft but i want microsoft to steam

[fallow meadow]

So you need to alter source, destination to switch

[delicate sinew]

how alter source

[fallow meadow]

I guess when you load up NomNom, you select at the top, where it says Path then Save and click the Windows icon to 'Reset to Microsoft Save Path' ?

[delicate sinew]

epic thank you

[fallow meadow]

Then ones it shows Windows saves again, only then do you start to select for transfer

Well, hold I'd hold on the 'epic' until you got this done

[delicate sinew]

omg it knew it was steam

OMG THE BUTTON LIT UP

can i click now

[fallow meadow]

Sounds like progress

I would!

[delicate sinew]

yay!

[fallow meadow]

Go try and let us know

[delicate sinew]

uh i clicked it and it did nothing, but at least it lights up now

[fallow meadow]

It may have actually done something without being clear about it

[delicate sinew]

oh it might have

how do we know it did something

[fallow meadow]

I am not sure what to expect. So just try and see by loading Steam?
Or if you prefer, switch to Steam as default again, then we can check the data

[delicate sinew]

oki

[fallow meadow]

Edit Save Data

[delicate sinew]

nope, switched back to steam and gamemode is creative

it should be survival

[fallow meadow]

Ah yes, exactly what I planned to look for in data

sigh

[delicate sinew]

so did we hit another roadblock

[fallow meadow]

I am not sure

This is what I am unsure about, knowing how Steam works

Also note that there is currently a bug, that wont let you overwrite an existing slot. Make sure to select an empty one as target.

[delicate sinew]

ohh

IT WORKED

I OVERWROTE SAVESLOT 2

[fallow meadow]

wait what?

[delicate sinew]

well not overwrote

i made a saveslot

[fallow meadow]

Ah, so you selected slot 2 (which did not exist) and now it worked?

[delicate sinew]

yep!

so can I delete the creative slot now

[fallow meadow]

Ok, that is all that matters, right?

Yeah sure

[delicate sinew]

yes

can I delete save from inside nomnom

[fallow meadow]

Just do know that your base(s) you may have had for this transferred save, now exist both on Steam and on Game Pass. If you do not wish for duplicates, you could go back into Game Pass to delete there in-game.

[delicate sinew]

idc what happens to the game pass version

[fallow meadow]

I would use the file explorer to delete saves. Not sure the save editor has that option.

Slot 1 auto save would be save.hg , but also mf_save.hg

[delicate sinew]

alright

[fallow meadow]

No manual save was made for slot 1 I think

if there was, it would be save2.hg and mf_save2.hg

[delicate sinew]

can you run the save file location bot command again

[hardy aurora]

Save File Locations

GoG: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...
Steam: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...
Game Pass: %LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...
Linux (Steam):
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

Note: When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Shared by: @fallow meadow

[delicate sinew]

ty

I got
mf_save.hg
mf_save3.hg
save.hg
save3.hg
steam_autocloud.vdf

and a folder called cache

[fallow meadow]

save3.hg and mf_save3.hg are both for the auto-save for slot 2

[delicate sinew]

so save and mf save are slot one?

[fallow meadow]

so you only have to delete the save.hg and mf_save.hg

[delicate sinew]

alrighty

[fallow meadow]

Or do it in-game

Alright, have fun, go enjoy your game 🥳
Do let us know if you need assistance again

[delicate sinew]

wait

[fallow meadow]

oh oh

[delicate sinew]

i put a save in saveslot one (i deleted save.hg and mf_save.hg before i put a new save in) and it thinks its creative

[fallow meadow]

I am not sure, but the game will only ever list things available in order

So when you deleted the slot 1 auto-save, there not being a manual save for slot 1, the save3 (auto save slot 2) takes top location in the list

Of course assuming Steam Cloud never interfered at all

The game never shows to care about slot numbers, as it always lists available slots in order of date/time of last saved

If you want to make sure, you can check the files or the editor

[delicate sinew]

one sec

ok so i just made my game pass saves 1/2/3 to steam saves 2/3/4

and it works

so I am all good

thank you so much dev!

[fallow meadow]

As long as you are all good, even though I am not quite sure about the 1/2/3, 2/3/4

[delicate sinew]

wym?

on steam I can apparently have more than 3 save slots

[fallow meadow]

save.hg (auto) + save2.hg (manual) = Slot 1
save3.hg (auto) + save4.hg (manual) = Slot 2
save5.hg (auto) + save6.hg (manual) = Slot 3
save7.hg (auto) + save8.hg (manual) = Slot 4
...
etc. all the way to slot 15

Note: any of the above files on Steam, will always have 'mf_' equivalents as well (metadata files), so double the amount of files even

[delicate sinew]

ah alright

thank you btw for all your help

[fallow meadow]

You're welcome ... time to finally play 🥳

[delicate sinew]

🎉

[fallow meadow]

If you are smiling, I am, just the way it works

[delicate sinew]

thank you so much

um one last thing @fallow meadow

one of my saves was a multiplayer with my friends, when they log into the save and i log into it will we be on the same planet?

[fallow meadow]

You may have to group up again, because if you start up alone, you will be in a diff location. Multiplayer location and single player location are different.

[delicate sinew]

alright

thank you

[fallow meadow]

You may wish to check your 'Network' settings again, as you are now on a diff platform too. Those settings have likely not copied over

[delicate sinew]

ty

[mossy perch]

Henlo

How does one create a .lua file from a mod?

Is it as simple as putting the .pak file into "ModScript" folder and then executing the "BUILDMOD.BAT"?

[vale iron]

If it was made with AMUMSS, then the LUA is likely in the PAK and can be extracted that way

If it was made manually or with NMSMB, though, you won't get a LUA that way. You would have to make one from scratch

[mossy perch]

Understandable

Thanks

[lime mesa]

What is the max standing value in reputstion

[white lava]

some of the mods i installed arent PAK files , some are rar and 7Z , will they still work

[round sinew]

got to unpack the zip/rar to get to the pak file inside i guess

[mossy perch]

9 CONFLICTS detected in processed Scripts/paks
[ATTENTION] CONFLICTS will prevent the mods involved from expressing their full effect.
[ATTENTION] Some CONFLICTS can be resolved by COMBINING mods...
[ATTENTION] See file 'Creating a Patch for an existing MOD PAK.txt' for further help

So, I got a question. I've received that message and I also have combined all the conflicted mods (I think?). The question is, has my problem in mods conflicting solved?

Here is the result file after combining mods with AMUMSS

[runic solstice]

Are there any mods for joystick support? Want to take my flightstick for a spin.

[fallow meadow]

You might have to do some searching, but from what I understand, to get HOTAS, or flightstick to work as well as possible, you will have to use 3rd party software. Most often used is x360ce to alter and emulate an Xbox 360 controller. The result may still feel clunky though, as the game was not made to simulate flight all that well

[runic solstice]

Wow, I just tested it and it feels incredibly clunky and awkward. Not recommendable at all.

Going to disable that. NMS needs proper joystick support.

[lime mesa]

Can you save edit quicksilver as an inventory item like you can with nanites

[mossy perch]

Absolutely able to

[lime mesa]

Like a tradable item?

[hearty wasp]

no

like a currency

because that's what it is

you can't give it to other people

[lime mesa]

But so is nanites

And youbcan trade nanites if you get them in your inventory

[hearty wasp]

I mean there is a "gift" item of QS

you can try that

you just can't redeem that one yourself

[lime mesa]

Right okay

[hearty wasp]

godspeed

[sterile fog]

are there any mods that A: allow me to sort the galaxy map by economy level or B: allow me to sort the teleport locations screen by.... economy level?

and by sort the galaxy map I mean filter with colors

[vale iron]

A: don't think so. B: no

[vast hornet]

Hi all. Not sure which channel this would be best asked in, but is there any way to get into the games files and look at the internal music? There's this one song I'd love to hear again, but it was removed off of YT Long ago. Ironically it was called Beyond.

[vale iron]

If you go to the modding discord and look in mod-sound, scroll up a little and you can see a program posted by monkeyman that lets you listen to sound files I think (haven't tried it myself). Might take a lot of searching, and that's assuming the file is still there even though it's not being used.

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[vale iron]

Ah it only works with wem files right now, not bnk files

[hearty wasp]

Most music are also procedural

And dynamically composed from different instruments

[weary cradle]

is there a way to add QOL mods on PC xbox game pass version?

[fallow meadow]

You will need ANMSMEMSPC, see pin here:
<#nms-modding message>

[weary cradle]

alright I will take a look there, thank you

[dry moat]

can a mod like Better Planet Generation interfere with story lines? y'know with all the surfaces being changed and stuff

[hearty wasp]

not unless you eliminate all of a kind of planet

e.g. not letting dead planets spawn

[dry moat]

gotcha, thanks

[weary cradle]

if I just grab the steam version is it possible to transfer my save? do you know?

[fallow meadow]

Yes, this is possible if you have access to the Game Pass save files

@weary cradle You will require a Save Editor called NomNom (link in pin in #nms-modding ) to do the transfer to Steam. Feel free to ask further details in this channel

[merry wasp]

I think you should be fine if you combined the mods, Amumms just warns you that certain files are changing the same MBIN

if you look at the log/report more closely you can see what is "conflicting"

if you wanna be 100% sure check the conflicts in the report files and see if in game they do what they should do

[hearty wasp]

^

[mossy perch]

Yeah,

Once I got to know how to solve conflict and combine mods, well not entirely, I have 50+ mods installed and all of them work flawlessly, I guess

[waxen cedar]

interesting

there is a base icon for an underwater base

but it isn't being used

also a new icon for the orb monuments

[magic lava]

Nice, I like that one

[waxen cedar]

What even is the difference between pressing "Host new instance" on multiplayer menu or just directly opening your save.

You don't even get any LobbyID when selecting the "Host new instance" so it's basically the exact same thing

[waxen cedar]

Okay I'm trying to get to understand the correlation between Friend codes, UIDs and LobbyIDs

creating an excel sheet to make it easier to manage

And yes, this is the length I'm going to just to figure out what HG's friend code is 😅

If anyone wishes to help out, feel free to. I'm just a potato and will probably not figure this out

[magic lava]

You lost me at Host

[waxen cedar]

I think LobbyID might be tied to the location

3rd time joining my ps account and lobbyID has changed

[waxen cedar]

complete mystery

[vale iron]

@slate veldt I don't think vignette remover would alter any files related to rewards, but it's possible

It might be possible to set bytebeat default to on, only for you, of course

[slate veldt]

Yeah, i found myself frustrated with the inverters rigid timing. Tried using bytebeat but there's not an easy way to trigger power off as quickly as power on

Basically, I need to power off at a specific rate so this walkway is built as I walk across.
https://gfycat.com/scalyfarawaybedbug-bytebeat-walkway-nms

[fallow meadow]

I wonder if a well placed prox switch could work for you

Prolly not reliable enough. Also diff ranges involved for On and Off

[slate veldt]

Yeah, the problem is i rely on the power off to make the bridge walkable

And inverters are just way too slow for that

[vale iron]

You could maybe tweak this to get the distances you need

i haven't looked at the bytebeat switch before. I'll see if it would be easy to change the default

[slate veldt]

I honestly wish they added a feature that let you choose how the BB switch works by default (no signal)

[fallow meadow]

Would inverting the garage doors work for you?

[slate veldt]

No, that would put the door frames in the walkable area

[fallow meadow]

It's all modded solutions though, while I had the impression you were looking for a 'vanilla' solution

[slate veldt]

Yeah, and i still am, just wondering if the mod is something simple or not

[fallow meadow]

Any way to hide a pressure switch (floor)?

[slate veldt]

i tried that as well

[vale iron]

There's no BOOT state on the bytebeat switch. Winder mentioned sometimes you can just switch the order in the entity to change the default state. I would need to try it to know if it worked

[slate veldt]

I've had some close tricks almost work, but still have issues with the timing

and when i tried using floor/prox switches, it often caused some of panels to trigger early

which is more of a fault for the bytebeat, i realize

[fallow meadow]

I am still not sure I have the right idea of what exactly needs to happen and when

[slate veldt]

I basically need it to power off in sequence at the speed the bytebeat dictates.

My issue is Im trying to create an inverter without using an inverter

[fallow meadow]

And it only gets started once, to then run only once, to then stop?

[slate veldt]

I would be fine with it staying off until triggered again

I actually nearly got that to work

[fallow meadow]

Ok, so a single loop, which can be re-triggered

[slate veldt]

Yep, basically.
Doors powered
Bytebeat power off sequence happens
All doors remain unpowered

[fallow meadow]

Bytebeat creates the sequence, right?

[slate veldt]

Yeah

Thats why the walkway animation looks so smooth

Oh wait...

[fallow meadow]

You could maybe add another 'note' with BB Switch to trigger the inverter. Just have to set the timing right and possibly length?

[slate veldt]

What if each bytebeat switch powered the next switch in sequence?

[fallow meadow]

If your Inverter 'note' is somewhat early compared to when it actually needs to shut off, you might be able to cover the delay

[slate veldt]

Thats how i did it before, and it worked but still had weird issues

I basically had to set the bpm so a beat landed on the 1

Otherwise it triggered a panel somewhere in the middle

[fallow meadow]

Well, BB Switch has a power connection, but still requires a signal for input as well to have any output

[slate veldt]

Gah, i feel like im so close to solving this and then get lost in the logic

[fallow meadow]

If you want, we can both have a look in-game, see if I can actually come up with something?

[slate veldt]

Yeah, ill send you a note when im on later. It will be in Creative mode if thats cool

[fallow meadow]

Doesn't have to be now, but do consider EU time

[slate veldt]

Oh right 😅
Forgot were like 8 hrs apart or so

[fallow meadow]

almost 9:30pm now, so likely off to bed in a couple

[slate veldt]

Alright, well ill upload it at least and send you coords so you can see the insanity i put together lol

[fallow meadow]

Sure, will have a look and give it a try at least. I like a challenge

If it is anything like this, I might take some time ...

[slate veldt]

Lol, no i uh...laid the wires out somewhat neatly

[fallow meadow]

Me too actually, but I also had to save parts

[shy grove]

holy fudge! that's impressive! what's that part of?

[slate veldt]

Pinball machine i think

Im guessing haha

[shy grove]

that's so kickass! Dev's so creative and in depth

[fallow meadow]

It has memory on the left side (visible), control logic on the right, more logic out of sight and a display driver in the back, also not visible

I believe you actually end up in that 'mess' when teleporting to it

(there is a way back up and out though)

[shy grove]

oooh that's crazy that you land in there too lol

[fallow meadow]

Yeah, you get a chance to get electrocuted before playing

(I should prolly move the computer)

[shy grove]

lol you so cute. would ppl be able to come see it now? it all still works right?

[fallow meadow]

I have not actually checked recently, but it used to work fine still

I guess I could put something together for the explorers-archive?

[shy grove]

you think you'd be able to build something like that in one of our hub's outposts?

[fallow meadow]

Let us move to a diff channel

[shy grove]

yesss! that'd be awesome

[solid flame]

Can someone help me figure out how to change the NPC on my freighter? I have the seed here " 0x575C878ECF592BEE ", i went into the JSON and went to the Freighter NPC and changed the seed and saved the JSON but my NPC's have stayed the same as before

[woven sparrow]

What specific part of those NPCs do you want to change? Their race, names, or professions?

[solid flame]

The race, I didnt know the freighter npc's had professions? and names dont bother me.

[woven sparrow]

Well, sometimes the head of the freighter would be a "captain", sometimes it would be an "admiral". It's random.

[solid flame]

oh, gotcha, my bad

[woven sparrow]

No worries.

[hearty wasp]

you can't select the titles alone anyway

race and seed are separate params under the freighter's name iirc

or above idk

in the same area

but the captain's seed is different I think

changing the seed will only change their appearance, not their race

[river ridge]

is there a mod to stop items from disappearing when your inventory is full?

this "feature" is frustrating enough for me to start using mods

[hearty wasp]

don't think that's possible

[solid flame]

ok, i dont care what race and title and all that jazz, im ONLY trying to change the appearance of the NPC's on my freighter. I have the seed of what i want them to look like but it doesnt seem to work.

[hearty wasp]

if you're using NMSSE you have to save from the dropdown menu

you may also want to double check if you didn't change your captain rather than crew

or the appearance of the freighter itself

[fallow meadow]

@solid flame To change appearance of the Freighter NPCs, you will have to edit the raw JSON. You'd be looking for CurrentFreighterNPC where the race is determined by a model reference path as well as a seed for the looks for said model. Note that this will change all Freighter NPC; the commander, the fleet commander, the two crew to the left, the one sitting above.

[solid flame]

I've changed the seed in the raw JSON and no change. Do i need to change the reference path for the race? Currently the MRP is " MODELS/COMMON/PLAYER/PLAYERCHARACTER/NPCKORVAX.SCENE.MBIN "

[fallow meadow]

@solid flame If you want it to be a Gek for example, you have it something like this

[solid flame]

the seed might be incompatible then, its has a normal sized body and a Helios head

[fallow meadow]

That sounds like something not default, which is possible, but likely came with a howto?

Having a Helios head, means it is most likely using the PLAYERCHARACTER, NPCFOURTH, or NPCFIFTH

Mind you, using non-default models, can change behaviour of those NPCs, like no longer being able to interact correctly.

[solid flame]

gotcha

so im just gonna let it be then 😅

[fallow meadow]

Up to you. I don't believe it hurts to try. Just make sure to have a backup! Where did you get this from? I'd think for support with seeds, you could try the below discord, where they have experience with these kinds of changes.

!CreativeHubLink

[hardy aurora]

The No Man's Sky #nms-modding channel

Welcome to the channel for everything modding related, including save editing. Feel free to discuss and/or ask questions about mods or modding No Man's Sky in general. For assistance with modding, there is usually someone to reply, but feel free to use <@&376156604417966100> for someone to assist you.

General links:

NMS Nexus Mods
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/

NMS Modding Wiki
https://wiki.step-project.com/NMS:Landing_Page
http://nmsmodding.wikia.com/wiki/No_Man's_Sky_Modding_Wiki (outdated)

NMS Modding Discord
https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[odd stag]

I bought the game on GOG back when it was released (vanilla). I would like to play the Pathfinder update again, unfortunately I did only make backups of Vanilla, Foundation and Atlas Rises. Is it somehow possible to get Pathfinder?

[fallow meadow]

I am not all that familiar with GOG when it comes to NMS. I don't think rollback versions go as far back as Pathfinder (1.20+). For all I know it is suggested to contact GOG Customer Support to ask if there is a standalone installer still available.

[odd stag]

@fallow meadow I already wrote them but they said that they have no older releases available 😦

[marsh eagle]

I have a gog backup of 1.02 release, 1.24 pathfinder and 1.77 visions (last opengl version)

[odd stag]

@marsh eagle 1.24 would be awesome! Exactly what I'm looking for. Would you give that one to me? That would be awesome. If you want, I could also post you a screenshot to proof that I actually own the game on GOG.

[fiery geode]

hi everybody I just joined and so I immediately sped to the modding section.
I come bearing a question.
is there a darth vader outfit mod for NMS? because I cant find one

[hearty wasp]

no

time to learn NMSDK and scenes and joints

[rose zodiac]

i need help with fixing a quest from a transferred save(gamepass->steam), roarinflames suggested via save editor

any1 here got any clue of that stuff?

[fallow meadow]

What exactly is the mission?

[rose zodiac]

the scientist and overseer mission

i have to return to them

[fallow meadow]

What did you use to transfer the save?

[rose zodiac]

no tool, did it myself with notepad++ if i remember correctly

[fallow meadow]

Ok, so did you transfer your bases as well?

[rose zodiac]

not sure, not that i remember actively

[fallow meadow]

Did you follow a guide at least?

[rose zodiac]

yes

can i post a link here?

[fallow meadow]

The one by Gumsk on Reddit?

[rose zodiac]

yes

[fallow meadow]

Ok

Can you post the actual mission objectives?

[rose zodiac]

1 sec

both are return to scientist/overseer

"the --- awaits at their terminal"

[fallow meadow]

You have both the Scientist and Overseer at your base?

[rose zodiac]

but when i go there it says they should not be disturbed rn

[fallow meadow]

The base is actually yours too when you interact with the Base Computer?

[rose zodiac]

i placed the base computer, can rename it and upload/delete it

so i guess

[fallow meadow]

I am asking because you transferred saves and I want to make sure the base is yours on this platform. Also trying to make sure you do indeed have both NPCs at their respective terminal.

[rose zodiac]

i have, i did place the terminals an hour ago or sth (idk where the old base is, i just cant find it), forgot to mention that

[fallow meadow]

Could you screenshot the mission log objectives for both Expanding the Base and Scientific Research?

[rose zodiac]

yup

[fallow meadow]

Could you select the Space Anomaly mission, then save and reload. Then select Base Computer Archives to see if you get anything. Then rebuild the terminals one at a time and see if they have a task. Start with the Overseer first, then the Scientist.

If it is then still stuck, we can move on to actually check your save

[rose zodiac]

so should i delete the terminals before reloading?

[fallow meadow]

You could delete those before save/reload. Main thing is to have a different quest active when you get back into the game

[rose zodiac]

ok

[rose zodiac]

so for the base computer nothing changed

[fallow meadow]

No base computer archives at that computer?

[rose zodiac]

nope

bottom right corner still says its in another system

[fallow meadow]

Oh well, not really related, you likely have other bases?

[rose zodiac]

yes, but only from before the transfer if i remember correctly

[fallow meadow]

Yes, but those were transferred as well

[rose zodiac]

there appears to be a quest marker for all bases in euclid for the scientist quest

or at least for 2

[fallow meadow]

The Scientist should only have 1 marker, as you only have 1 Scientist

[rose zodiac]

WAIT

sorry caps

top mid and mid left both have the marker

[slate veldt]

Same system, so they both list the marker

[rose zodiac]

hm but i cant remember having the scientist ther

e

[fallow meadow]

You should really be at your base where you have those terminals. Did you select the Anomaly mission to then save reload?

[rose zodiac]

yes

didn't do anything

[fallow meadow]

Now go to the base with those terminals, then rebuild one at a time seeing if any has something new for you

[rose zodiac]

for the overseer nothing changed

but there may be those terminals placed in an older base, doesn't that matter at all?

[fallow meadow]

No, because you move those NPCs when you place a new one elsewhere and interact with it

[rose zodiac]

no

wait

it changed now

for the overseer

[fallow meadow]

Ah, there you go

[rose zodiac]

scientist tro

too*

thanks a lot

[slate veldt]

Nice! Just needed some extra working

[rose zodiac]

don't know what i would have done without you two, thank u so much ^^

[fallow meadow]

Now keep doing one task at a time, first one that has something. Make sure to finish said task, then ask them again and repeat the next task you get.

[slate veldt]

Ha, i tried and failed. This was all devilin

[rose zodiac]

will do, thank u

the base computer still didn't update tho

[fallow meadow]

The Base Computer may actually be at any other of your bases you have

[rose zodiac]

yuh possible, will check later

[rose zodiac]

but u tried & helped me with the first mistake

[fallow meadow]

Alright, go play and have fun. 🥳 Do not hesitate to ask for assistance again

[rose zodiac]

will do :))

[slate veldt]

What was the issue in the end anyway?

[rose zodiac]

i got no clue at all haha

[fallow meadow]

Just order of things as a whole. You know how you get all those NPCs, but when you are that early with Expanding the Base, there is only ever one who has anything for you. Does get stuck at times though, making it seem like nothing works anymore. So selecting another mission, to then save/reload will often reset the checks needed. If not, rebuilding those terminals asking one after another will

In this case it was the Overseer being stubborn

[slate veldt]

oh yeah, had them do the mission switch trick but it didnt work for some reason.
I think they were in multiplayer at the time though, and that tends to prevent it from working.

Anyway, at least I know thats still a fix

[fallow meadow]

MP can certainly be an issue as well

Oh well, better than actually having to dive into the save data

[rose zodiac]

i also tried it in single player but replacing the terminals worked out for me here

[slate veldt]

Ah, good to know

[rose zodiac]

do you guys think i can continue these quests in mp now?

[fallow meadow]

It is never recommended to do any of your own quests in MP.

[rose zodiac]

ok thanks

oh and one other thing, steam always says sth like the game couldnt sync with the cloud, any idea where that comes from?

[rose zodiac]

@fallow meadow @slate veldt base computer archives smh work now

reloaded my save in between here and there and now it works

[regal birch]

is there a mod that would let me fly backward on planets

[hearty wasp]

Steam

It comes from Steam

[hearty wasp]

Most ship flying mods have that tweak, I'm personal to Gumsk's mods but that's just my personal bias towards someone I know

Just search on Nexus Mods

[regal birch]

thanks

ship maneuvering is a little annoying on planets lol

[hearty wasp]

It is

Most mods disables the flying height limit and lets you essentially fuck the ground

[regal birch]

any specifics?

[hearty wasp]

No

Searching for "ship" should yield a good amount of results tho

[rose zodiac]

so its server sided?

[hearty wasp]

if it fails to sync, prolly

[fallow meadow]

@rose zodiac You can read all about the Steam Cloud here, including troubleshooting:
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/68D2-35AB-09A9-7678

[rose zodiac]

thanks

[sterile fog]

are there any mods that decrease the length of the movie when you transfer between galaxies?

like the HUGE zoom out, then zoom back in

[steel crypt]

huh?

If you are talking about Galaxies, I don't have experience with that. If you are talking about any warp animation like between solar systems, then the only way to make that faster is to have better hardware or use the hardware better.

[hearty wasp]

^

Tldr mod your PC

[hearty geyser]

hey might be a faq but how would I go about merging mods

[round sinew]

iirc, there was one - have you checked nexusmods nms section?

[hearty wasp]

If it has lua script, AMUMSS

If not, manually

[odd stag]

Hows modding using linux? what do I need to do that? I only know modding using windows so far

[hearty wasp]

I assume it works the same since at the end of the day the game just reads paks anyway

[round sinew]

installing/using mods work the same way, GAMEDATA/PCBANKS/MODS

and renaming/deleting DISABLEMODS.TXT ofc

[odd stag]

No I ment how to create mods. I used modding station and mbin files on windows - is both available for linux, too?

[hearty wasp]

the compiler's sourcecode is on github

you're welcome to convert it for linux use I guess

else prolly need some wine or alternatives

[round sinew]

i just use a vm

[marsh eagle]

Use wine

[waxen cedar]

hmm

is there an NPC seed for the quicksilver merchant?

wonder if I could toggle one of my freighter NPCs into it without having to make a separate .pak for that

[hearty wasp]

check NPCSPAWNTABLE

it's a specified NPC under special NPC section

[waxen cedar]

Thank

[hearty wasp]

np, just don't expect it to be a fourth/fifth race

it prolly uses a model in itself

[waxen cedar]

Doesn't the game occasionally shuffle your freighter npc seeds tho?

at least their names seem to change sometimes

[hearty wasp]

I'm p sure freighter NPCs are all clones?

since they use the same seed other than the captain

[fallow meadow]

@waxen cedar The Quicksilver NPC is this one:
...\MODELS\COMMON\PLAYER\PLAYERCHARACTER\NPCSPECIALSHOP.SCENE.MBIN

[waxen cedar]

thank

[woven nimbus]

Hey guys how can I tell if Finelod is on

I activated it last night but I haven’t seen much of a difference

[fallow meadow]

I guess seeing if 3rd party logos not showing on startup would be easiest to spot it working. Checking the water level would for me be a good alternative to check

[woven nimbus]

Alright

I’ll check it when I get home, thanks for the info

[lime mesa]

any good mod for the looks of a ship or something like that for xbox?

[hearty wasp]

mods, no

you can edit your save with NomNom

[lime mesa]

edit my save?

what does that mean

[hearty wasp]

your save

it can be edited

specifically, to change the seed of your ship so it appears as another

[lime mesa]

how do you mean edit the save

[hearty wasp]

with the program known as NomNom

[lime mesa]

i mean what do you mean by EDITING the save

like deleting or what

[hearty wasp]

by using the tool

[lime mesa]

what does the edit do?

[hearty wasp]

change the seed of your ship

so it appears as another

here

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1566

read the green text

[night adder]

NomNom has great functionality, but I generally recommend Goatfungus' save editor to beginners because its GUI is more user-friendly.

[regal birch]

i still cannot find a mod that will let me go backward on planets

[vale iron]

Remind me in about 36+ hours and I'll try to put one together. I'm traveling for the next 1.5 days

[regal birch]

ok

[ivory basin]

New mod announcement, to be released after final tweaks.

"Combat Evolved" is a complete combat overhaul (in the making)

Some overhauls include: Much faster and more satisfying reload animation, slightly deeper FoV with ADS, slightly more kickback with ADS, more melee damage, slightly wider melee contact tolerance, snappier gun response to aiming, sentinel drone/quad/walker health has been buffed to appropriate endgame levels, sentinel drones/quads can now deal laser fire damage to a META maxed out player, walker plasma grenade panic mode now properly spawns grenades, walker panic mode now lasts slightly longer, increased duration of drone pulse fire and duration variance between 1 and 16 shots, time between drone attacks lowered, quad jump-back distance lowered, and lots more
Note: While this mod will not make survival any harder, it will make upsetting sentinels, attacking fleets, or engaging with pirates much more dangerous for new players.

If people are interested I'll get it up on nexus when it's ready.

Along with a better list of tweaks

[hearty wasp]

goat's can't edit Xbox/PS saves

but ye it's more useful for json editing

[hearty wasp]

'd be great if you can help discover how to control number of sentinels spawned per wave too

[fallow meadow]

It has support for both PS and GP:

1.9.5 - Update (29 September 2021)

• Added support for PS4 Save Wizard storage.

1.9.1 - Update (22 September 2021)

• Added support for MS Game Pass saves.

[hearty wasp]

oh ok

[fallow meadow]

Both are fine editors, with NMSSE being basic and reliable, and NomNom having a lot more planned but still in beta. I'd recommend either, personal preference

[steel crypt]

Haven't people done that before? I don't know what was modded, but I seem to remember someone (at least one person) making massive amounts of sentinels spawn. Or was that something fucky?
Never tried it myself and don't remember any controls for it.

[hearty wasp]

I've heard that from a glitch

but other than that I don't have much memory about it

[steel crypt]

ahhh okay. Well, I'll post something if I find anything.

[ivory basin]

Currently working on that, I've got the max cap raised so for instance in multi one player can spawn a wave and join another player's wave for up to a total of 16 active drones

What I'm still looking for is how to adjust the spawn weights and radii

I'm pretty sure I know where they are but testing must be done :p

I already tested spawnheight and spawnradius, I can get them spawning just off in the distance and flying to players now. Fairly more realistic.

though, to be fair- Currently the mod is adjusted so that even a wave of three sentinels can be an actual threat to a maxed out player. Not like a "run for your life thing" but, more like "hope you have ammo bro"

[hearty wasp]

that's a pretty good workaround

[ivory basin]

just fired up testing for the morning and noticed something cool and interesting

[hearty wasp]

scaling up the relative danger to playercount

[ivory basin]

didyouknow: there are in fact two kinds of quad, drone, and walker?

normal and "swarm"

swarms are what come after you during alerts, normals roam the map

there's a separate cap for both

I just had a situation where I attacked one drone on a hostile drone planet, and five more from the local 100m radius (set by me) flew in to help. I did however make "normals" slightly weaker than "swarms" to keep it fair, because I haven't found the swarm wave caps yet.

But yeah this is turning out good, I'm literally 2% away from the game's max allowed shield upgrade %, and drone fire can harm me.

A group of three drones two quads and a walker could probably kill me if I wasn't careful

[ivory basin]

update: found the sentinel wave spawn controls :)

wave two spawn four at least, now

wave three spawns four drones and two dogs

five can spawn a walker six drones and four dogs, keyword can

essentially if you commit the ultimate crimes, the army is coming after you

gonna play with it for an afternoon, maybe adjust life amounts now that I can spawn more per wave

I also plan to slightly increase walking speed, tbh the walk speed is slower than Halo 1

and I'd like it at least that

[odd stag]

Is it possible to create a mod that removes the "highlighting" of ressource collections (copper, emeril etc.) when using the scan on a planet?
So that only plants get highlighted and not the ores?

Someone knows what file I have to look at or if I have to remove a UI element or something?

[hearty wasp]

you mean the icons?

UI stuff may work if that's the case but you can also just... make the icon textures transparent

[odd stag]

not the icons, theres something like a grid that highlights the ressources

I'll try to make a screenshot of it tomorrow, to be more clear 🙂

[hearty wasp]

the holographic cubes are shader based

[ivory basin]

anyone have any idea how to extend freighter attack range?

projectile range is already taken care of, I mean detect and fire

[steel crypt]

Controls are in:
``MODELS\COMMON\SPACECRAFT\INDUSTRIAL\TURRET\TURRETA\ENTITIES\TURRET.ENTITY.MBIN"
@ivory basin

[ivory basin]

THANK YOU!

I... may have gone sorta uhhhhh "elite dangerous" with the distance values...

see my goal was, make freighter battles possible

freighters (now that turrets are done) are finally fully configured to engage at a max of 300,000u

the shot deviance is 10 degrees so they have trouble hitting at that distance but...

#nms-photomode-gallery

[odd stag]

Yes exactly, that's what I mean. Can I edit shaders and remove them somehow?

[hearty wasp]

Shader mods died for a reason

But you can try

[odd stag]

Of curiosity, what reason?

[fallow meadow]

Vulkan happened, which made shader modding a lot more complicated and at times maybe even impossible. Only a rare few have been willing to even attempt messing with shaders (Argh's water mod for example)

[hearty wasp]

^

it's technically possible now but the variable names are obfuscated so good luck finding the right variables

[smoky wing]

^

[ivory basin]

Anyone know how to control how close to another freighter yours can warp in?

I thought it was the visibledistance one but

tag me /w response plz :)

[ivory basin]

found out the issue, thanks anyway!

[slate veldt]

@vale iron has anyone described fauna completion nanite rewards going to 0 when they have your pet egg timer mod?

Wow, yeah, apparently adding that one back on drops it to 0 nanites again

Ah nvm, im an idiot and forgot to update it to 375, my bad.

[vale iron]

So it's not an issue?

[slate veldt]

No, updating resolved it

Sorry for the false alarm there

[odd stag]

What about If I'm going to do that for Foundations update?
Currently I'm playing that old version besides the latest one, do you think it might be easier to do that with the old version (that uses OpenGL)?

[ivory basin]

Are "WarpsBetweenBattles" and "TimeBetweenBattles" the only two values that affect when freighter battles occur? And do we know for sure if "time" accepts inputs of <1?

[fallow meadow]

Shader modding for old versions prior to Vulkan should be a lot easier and without obfuscation.

[ivory basin]

Some notes: (image in #nms-photomode-gallery)

Capital ships will target one another with proper lock-on and attempt to damage each other's turrets. Capital ships are accurate enough to phase beam at a fighter and not hit another ship behind it up to about 10ku. Capitals now also defend you properly instead of dealing a useless 25 damage per hit to AI.

ToDo: Program capital ships as destructible objects with at least 100,000 health, add auto-aim to the hull, add loot tables to hull and turrets.

[ivory basin]

Good news... it's working so far

Capital ships can now target and actually destroy one another

[waxen cedar]

Oh heckle

Have you attached some explosion effects to it?

[ivory basin]

I'm gonna copy the ones over from destroying the ship's cargo hold and extend them

[waxen cedar]

You can scale them up, right?

[ivory basin]

ye to the whole model size automatically

[waxen cedar]

Oh righty

Do you have a clip of destroying one by any chance? Have always wanted to see such an event happening

[ivory basin]

once I finish up I'll make a showcase for the launch :)

[waxen cedar]

[marsh eagle]

Yes ! All old shader mods are pre 1.77

If you need a specific one let me knowm i have a complete backup of all old mods ever released

[odd stag]

Is there one that already does what I need: Get rid of the holographic cubes (when scanning for ressources)?
Also nice to see that you still have all these mods, I think I'll stay a while with foundations 🙂

[slim blaze]

Is Nexus the best site to get NMS mods or is there an alternative?

[fallow meadow]

I would say it is by now the only reliable source for No Man's Sky mods out there.

[slim blaze]

And how much does it alter? just cosmetics?

[fallow meadow]

Depends on the mods you install, from small individual change to complete overhaul, or a combination of whichever you prefer and manage to get working together

[slim blaze]

I see

[fallow meadow]

There is a pin explaining what modding means. When searching Nexus mods, I would suggest to sort by 'last updated' to ensure they are up-to-date, as you will also find mods no longer working. You can get more advanced as well, making your own perhaps, or possibly try to update with some tools. Feel free to ask around here, or visit the modding discord

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[slim blaze]

Heck yeah! Thank you for the detailed response

[tiny thunder]

Can I stop pop-in with mods?

[hushed bronze]

@magic lavaMaybe you should swap that more detailed thing you just wrote for the !moddinglink entry also?

So that gunter dishes out that instead of just the discord bit alone

[magic lava]

Nah, just point em at the pins

Say, yo

Now it's Gunters pin

GUNTER

Where is my Gunter mod for NMS?

Slackers

[weary cradle]

are there any mods that improve multiplayer?

[native ginkgo]

wait, u can play modded NMS??!

[ivory basin]

Anyone know how to make an indestructible object destructible? I've got the shot and damage stuff in but for some reason it won't take any damage

[hearty wasp]

gotta add damage related components to the entity

check rocks

[ivory basin]

I did, they're there and working. I used the small cargo pods as reference, but...

It's like the damage point is inside the model

and shooting the models doesn't do anything

[hearty wasp]

could be the wrong entity

freighters are huge and multi-parted scenes

[ivory basin]

Seems to be the only compatible entity (HULL_A & HULL_B)

I can't get it to compile freightship001 entity data /w damage and destruct data

[hearty wasp]

I'd just try it on a random planetary object to make sure it work beforehand

and then maybe try to attach an additional entity in the freighter scene?

[ivory basin]

Attaching additional entities is something I've not attempted yet, this is day 3

[hearty wasp]

cool

you can make new entities

[ivory basin]

Can I? So... I could make an entity for the freighter engines

[hearty wasp]

not really recommended if you're not entirely sure it won't interfere with other shit but the worst it's gonna do is crash your game

[ivory basin]

I came from Minecraft modding a while ago. I noticed something about this game engine. It's a lot more tolerant than minecraft. In MC, one small oversight in mechanics can screw everything else up.

This, not so much.

Like, I've already been able to massively extend fleet battle radius and the AI handled it fine

[hearty wasp]

oh you just haven't touched the right part yet

[ivory basin]

just had to narrow the shot spread

Oh no I've killed the game multiple times xDD

but I'm only learning now

what I mean is, when it actually works it's really hard to screw up game mechanics

[hearty wasp]

yeah because we can't really do much with em to begin with

anyway you may want to see if you're modifying the root scene of the freighter

which there are multiple I think

tbh it'd be funny if you made the parts of the freighter blowupable like SWBF2

and then just leave holes that you can see thru

[ivory basin]

I'll triple-check for formatting errors and try again to mess with the other ent files. If I can figure that out I'll try moving onto scene editing.

I had an idea this morning to take this same idea to building prefabs and parts if it works on something as simple as a freighter

I already nailed down loot types, armor, etc. This is the last stubborn problem lol

[hearty wasp]

if you have access to blender it would be

if not, it may not be

[ivory basin]

Wife is an artist.

[hearty wasp]

well, if you can modify models directly, anything is possible

no to mention we already have derelict freighter models

never easier to just rip parts of that and put it in a normal freighter's palce

[ivory basin]

That's the idea

there are also destroyed building models, too

the scum and stuff might be a placeable

gonna have to see eventually

anyway, back to work :p

[hearty wasp]

the game has a surprising amount of trash models

small ones, that is

[ivory basin]

posting this here because research and documentation is cool:

Whatever file determines at a base level if something can or can't be damaged... is not a base entity file for that object

Using asteroids, I started anti-modding. Chopping Properties out of the entity files for asteroids and seeing if removing any one gave the same result I'm experiencing with the hull not taking damage.

I chopped out everything in the entity files that makes any difference, and I can still destroy asteroids.

It might be something about the material, collision, or scene files.

If anyone has any further insight on this, tag me.

[vale iron]

I can't imagine anything in any of those three things would cause something to be destructible. SCENE file would be the most likely. I'll take a look at ships when I finish updating gShip Custom in a few minutes

[ivory basin]

That's actually my next candidate for the asteroid chipping block

major ups to the modding support here