nms-modding

[waxen cedar]

sure thing

what are the values I should give the actual egg btw? Or did you get them via the mod?

[regal plume]

ive got it listed in the link i sent earlier, but i have a quad egg i edited it in without the mod ^

[waxen cedar]

Ah, could we do it tomorrow? I could tag you later or something. It's pretty late and I was thinking about going to sleep now

[regal plume]

yeah fair enough just let me know when you want to do it and i'll get back to you when i can

was gonna give out a load at the nexus anyway lol

[round canopy]

wait you could have a walker as a pet as part of a mod?

man that'd be cool as hell

[grand schooner]

it would probably be possible. I have seen normal sentinels as pets

idk how you would go about it but it may be able to be done

[hearty wasp]

[lime mesa]

Its very easily possible. You just need a save editor, then you change your pet id to "walker" "quad" or "drone" and it will set your pet to that type. Although you want to make sure its a normal animal "cow" "Triceratops" as having the pet be something like "drill" or "plough" before hand can have issues. You can't bring pet sentinels to multiplayer as it forces you into a solo lobby when using one. Although if someone pvp greifs you, you can use that to your advantage.

[lime mesa]

^

[round canopy]

huh..neat as a novelty but not something to really put thought into then. alright thank you!

[leaden laurel]

Hmmm I better get all my mines up and running before the update disables my mods. 😛

[waxen cedar]

do you have time now?

[regal plume]

No I'm drunk rn trying to be normal jn front of old people I'll be back in like an hour or 2 I guess

[waxen cedar]

Alrighty. I shall also enjoy some alcohol now in preparation for the live

[merry wasp]

@ember shuttle https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1939

[ember shuttle]

Thank you @merry wasp

[merry wasp]

@slate veldt This let's you modify any description flavour for any product. Will make an updated lua version for adding new foods (now that i've figured out loops more or less)

[lime mesa]

Is there a mod that allows for spawning of animals and ships etc during play?

[merry wasp]

wdym? like in gta mod menue where you can spawn a car out of thin air?

[lime mesa]

Yeah something like that

[hearty wasp]

animals, no

ships, metamod

[lime mesa]

Thx

Do you have a link for that mod?

[merry wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1810

[lime mesa]

Thx

[merry wasp]

most mods if not all mods we mention are found there

[hearty wasp]

ye

search function is godsend

[full niche]

Not everyone likes save editors but I want to share the latest release of mine here as well as it now includes a platform save transfer feature! This allows you to properly copy a save between different platforms (or accounts on the same) and might be interesting even for those not interested in save editing.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1566

[hearty wasp]

may as well put it here too

I have decided that, starting from today, I will put Sean's head on one additional object for every day the update is not released

[odd crater]

Make a giant Sean head as a space encounter and we'll talk.

[hearty wasp]

we'll talk in a few days.

[regal plume]

anyone have a mod for trading quicksilver, i've got an abundance stored up and thought it'd be funny to send some out, i know you can add it in save editor as an item but that auto adds to account value, is there a way to do it so i can send it to players if no one knows of a pre built mod for it?

[hearty wasp]

not really

vanilla qs substance is only for reward

you may try adding that reward substance with save editing and then send that to another person in-game as a test to see if it'll be translated into the currency automatically on reciving

try searching up the id here if it's not already selectable in the save editor https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J8WdrubKgo8A9hPY-hbQLq4eVrb3n3lZAgiI2J7ncAU/edit#gid=66931870

[lime mesa]

Hay just edited in a sentinel pet if you still want one.

[regal plume]

yeah we've tried that before it auto adds the substance to your account, cheers for the table though

@waxen cedar it's mine, dont listen to this witch buy them (for free) directly from me

i have like 25

[spring vessel]

Do fauna next 😄

I want to see one of the gophers with a sean head

[hearty wasp]

think tmr's the mech

but blob sean, maybe

[waxen cedar]

A question

could you possibly change the player freighter model into a roamer?

[spring vessel]

I spend literal seconds shopping this

[waxen cedar]

or every freighter

[spring vessel]

Oh No

[regal plume]

thats so unbelievably cursed

[spring vessel]

Honestly it's the worst thing I've done today, including turning three people into hats

[hearty wasp]

player freighters are just freighters

you know what that means

[waxen cedar]

every freighter can be a roamer

[twilit smelt]

that freighter base is gonna be cramped

[hearty wasp]

I feel like in a week every single npc will be sean

if I do everything the reddit replies demanded

also we'd be entering Sean's mouth into the space station

[round canopy]

go from No Man's Sky to Sean Man's Sky

[hearty wasp]

just imagine this

but space station

[finite stirrup]

is it possible to mod at xbox?

[lime mesa]

If you found a way you'd be banned. If you released the way of doing it you'd be issued a cease and desist.

[left sentinel]

yeah since NMS doesn't support official modding you can't do it on xbox

[finite stirrup]

ahhh okay. ill start modding in awhile, is this a good starting list?

True Water, HD Clouds, Big Things, Dud's Sky, Better Planet Generation

for PC

[left sentinel]

pretty good

[finite stirrup]

Thanks, I could use some suggestions tho for varied creature generations. Do you have anyy?

[merry wasp]

@slate veldt @magic lava give it a spin when you have time

these are the textures i used for now

[viral badger]

Lua sucks but that's some nice, clean coding

[merry wasp]

well i Try my best, code has to be readable in my opinion

takes a bit more time but in the end it is worth it

[round canopy]

a cease and desist from HG or from Microsoft?

[lime mesa]

Micro

[vale iron]

HG doesn't care about modding.

[round canopy]

ahh

[lime mesa]

If anything HG endorses it.

[round canopy]

okay. just wanted to make sure since Sohail said "since NMS doesn't support official modding" I thought...wait no i thought they said "since HG doesn't support official modding"...huh okay so i'm just bad at reading, never mind XD

[lime mesa]

Nah pc is fine with modding no bans etc. Xbox and PlayStation have a thing against you decrypting their files.

[merry wasp]

@dawn haven https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/957

"install" this

And read the how to use 🙂

[dawn haven]

ok. gonna try that after works 🙂

[merry wasp]

i can give you pak tho but that just the one i used for testing @dawn haven

[hearty wasp]

ok so someone wants this

Sean's face on the personal refiner part of the original exosuit backpack so that when you refine things his face goes round and round.

I have no idea what they're referring to

does anyone have a screenie of said spinny thing?

[merry wasp]

gonna check

this i think

it spins when you refine stuff with personal refiner

[hearty wasp]

oh ok

that I can do

thank

[merry wasp]

np

[hearty wasp]

also my reddit post got deleted again

[merry wasp]

proably due to the new rules

#content-creator-corner

is where you should post it i think

[hearty wasp]

no I mean my post on reddit

[merry wasp]

oh

well

reddit i guess

[hearty wasp]

yeah

so Sean's head are gonna go mainly here and the modding subreddit I guess

[merry wasp]

not on the nexus?

think it would probably a banger 😄

would be great to make a group pictur on the Anomaly with it

😄

[hearty wasp]

nexus doesn't get a lotta exposure with pictures

anyway I was just complaining since most my modded posts got removed by the same person

[merry wasp]

someone has something against you i guess

maybe you stubbed his toe

[vale iron]

Amen, I don't even bother posting modded stuff anymore

[merry wasp]

never posted on reddit

only nexus

or here

but that more or less a personal request project 😄

loops and functions are really handy for language files tbh 😄

[amber zealot]

it's not just your modded posts by the looks of it, saw this Sean face meme picture was also taken down by the same person. Guess no fun is allowed over there: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/pbpqt4/i_think_somebody_requested_something_like_this/

[merry wasp]

weird

[hearty wasp]

I've a much more spaghetti version of language file generation in Eucli-ea's lua, it's loops and functions all the way down

[merry wasp]

rules say nothing

[merry wasp]

took me a while to figure it out but got it working

[hearty wasp]

Sean's head is prolly ad nuaseum at this point

just, y'know, not his real face

[merry wasp]

i know

still kinda ... like i don't like this so, ill "ban this" kinda move

still due to my language files i end up with kinda big nested arrays

[hearty wasp]

lmao

[merry wasp]

😄 had to do some test flavour work and was in no mood to TL that thing

[hearty wasp]

I haven't started doing product names yet so I've just been directly naming IDs

[merry wasp]

oh god

[hearty wasp]

also inserting a new language table via debug table

[merry wasp]

i used this

and put that in my loop

well you can see the workings in my lua

😄

[hearty wasp]

I just do the loop with LANGUAGE_TYPE so had to put every single language in there

also easier to add more later I guess

actually

I made it so if the text field's empty

it automatically uses English

[merry wasp]

hmm not a bad fallback

[hearty wasp]

so it at least gets filled

yeah cos when I tested the Chinese ones

if the field's non-existent it just shows the language ID

as plaintext

[merry wasp]

😄

thats the gist of my loop

have to fix a tiny issue tho

[hearty wasp]

lel wish I can code that cleanly

[merry wasp]

so it only uses the langaugae files that are actually changed

saves in time

[hearty wasp]

here's mine

[merry wasp]

well i do use visual code And i hate stray comma's and such

[hearty wasp]

oh no I just mean I don't know how locals work

and I just use functions as text inserts

[merry wasp]

local is just "local to the loop/function

means yo cant use it outside the function

(i think)

[hearty wasp]

saves memory on execution or something like that right

[merry wasp]

i mean i've only worked with loops and functions for what 3 days now

yeah it should

also

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/lua/if_else_statement_in_lua.htm

this has helped me a lot

😄

but you're more experienced with lua, Euclid Ea is insane by the looks of it

[hearty wasp]

btw not equal operator in lua is ~=

[merry wasp]

fo real?

i tried !=

but that bugged

so had to use not

[hearty wasp]

ikr lol

[merry wasp]

lol

[hearty wasp]

always used either != or <>

[merry wasp]

yes

so i kept not

heck -= would be really confusing

especially with numbers

still -=, thats a new one for me tbh

[hearty wasp]

it's a tilde

[merry wasp]

oh shit

it's even worse

[hearty wasp]

yeah I have no idea why it's like that

[merry wasp]

holy shit ~ like are they fo real

jezus would've never thought of that one

so i'll stick to not() makes more sense that way

[hearty wasp]

fair enough lmao

I've had to consult the docs so many times when I was writing it

[merry wasp]

i can feel ya

is it ~ or -

[hearty wasp]

the former

[merry wasp]

can't tell when you're tired

[hearty wasp]

the squiggly one

[merry wasp]

if you can still see the squiggle

[hearty wasp]

at least it's more visible in NP++

[merry wasp]

yeah looks fine

[hearty wasp]

[merry wasp]

VS code too tho

[hearty wasp]

ye

[merry wasp]

dark mode theme ftw tho

[hearty wasp]

yeah I had to do a custom colour palette for mine cos dark mode in NP++ ain't really a thing for lotta languages

like it'd make the background black or dark blue but everything stays the same colour as light mode

[merry wasp]

why not switch to VS code or something along those lines?

[hearty wasp]

I'm not really a coder by trade

I just use whatever I have lying around if they work well enough

[merry wasp]

it's a free program tho

but i feel ya NP++ is still great

[hearty wasp]

yeah ik

just used to the plugins and what not

[merry wasp]

gotcha

[hearty wasp]

I do compares often too so I can just switch tabs instead of switching programs

[merry wasp]

still darkmode should be standard feature

[hearty wasp]

ikr

[hoary tusk]

is there any crazy but somehow sound conspiracy theories out there for why sean retweeted his own 4 posts twice?

like, why he do da?

[merry wasp]

#874277230895824926

[viral badger]

Dunno, but this isn't the channel - try #874277230895824926.

[hoary tusk]

ok ta

lol i meant to put this on nms the future, sorry. but hype is much better place so thank you still

[hearty wasp]

np

mmm, gotta see how many portal textures are actually in use

and how cursed it would look if they are Sean's face

[merry wasp]

gonna make a sean portal?

lol

called it

[hearty wasp]

yeah some texture work ought to be easy and fun

[merry wasp]

or astroid/sun

as sean

[hearty wasp]

I was thinking

is the sun all in shader?

[merry wasp]

can't answer that i'm shit with texture works

[hearty wasp]

it's just that if it's all shader coloured and rendered I can't replace it

[waxen cedar]

Sean sun

[regal plume]

hey uh

im on rn if you want that egg

also please sean sun

[hearty wasp]

Just remembered some texture replacements can get bugged out due to premade cache

May need to just

Change the mats too

[waxen cedar]

oki

[waxen cedar]

what's your friend code

[regal plume]

@waxen cedar
PGGT-DPXM-N4VVE

[merry wasp]

@waxen cedar @regal plume pls use #nms-lfg-or-trades for that next time 🙂

[regal plume]

👀 oop sorry lol

[waxen cedar]

this was about modded stuff

[regal plume]

chuck me your friend code in dms or something ^ gotta hand out pet colouring stuff a sec and then i'll jump into your session

nvm lol

[merry wasp]

@slate veldt @magic lava @dawn haven Finallized both of my mods and put them in a zip, all issues should be resolved. But test if and see if it works. If you have questions or issues feel free to ping me

[dawn haven]

👍

[merry wasp]

@hearty wasp btw seeing that chinese in your code, you got any good translator for that?

[hearty wasp]

yeah

my brain

[merry wasp]

oh

not sure if your brain can possibly translate this? **A crafted freighter upgrade. Can be re-deployed into your own capital ship to improve its <TECHNOLOGY>Technology<>. **

[hearty wasp]

可合成的貨船升級。 可以被移除及重新安裝於星際貨船上，以提升<TECHNOLOGY>科技元件<>效能。

[merry wasp]

thx a ton

[waxen cedar]

Seanporter

[merry wasp]

very nice

[merry wasp]

not sure if im getting lasier but using a lua debug to make a few vars 😄

[hearty wasp]

does this look okay enough

[merry wasp]

in what sense?

[hearty wasp]

Sean-y

or more Sean still

[merry wasp]

can't really see him , might ask in #no-mans-sky maybe they have better eys then me?

[hearty wasp]

nah

I just can't find the right mat to de-colourise

[left sentinel]

I can just see the skin colours at best

[hushed bronze]

Are you trying to put Sean's face in the warp scene?

[left sentinel]

This one is better

[hearty wasp]

I already have

[hushed bronze]

I mean like perceptibly

[hearty wasp]

preferrably

but I don't wanna put too much effort into it

putting in hours everyday for a meme seems excessive

[hushed bronze]

Maybe if you counter the stretch like so, and turn it this way so you have more pixels to lose from the height of a head?

[hearty wasp]

nonono it's the colouration

https://i.imgur.com/ZSaYk6l.mp4

like it's green for some reason right

all the green shit

are Sean

[hushed bronze]

hmm

maybe the channels are swapped around? HG loves switching around color channels for no reason

[hearty wasp]

I just can't get the right material to edit

since they're all scrolling

[waxen cedar]

where can I find the model for space anomaly?

[hearty wasp]

like which part

[hushed bronze]

Use the quick menu to spawn it, then fly in 😄

[waxen cedar]

the exterior shell

[hearty wasp]

uh try the main one

MODELS\SPACE\ANOMALY

[hushed bronze]

lol im just playing, IDR but it was a hot topic in the modding devoted discord so they probably all know in an instant

[waxen cedar]

seeing lots of separate materials there

[hushed bronze]

....if its not where QP just said

[waxen cedar]

I wonder if it's the ANOMALY.ENTITY.MBIN

[hearty wasp]

should be a scene right in that folder

[waxen cedar]

ah

[hearty wasp]

mmm

gonna try to edit the background

[waxen cedar]

hmm

which of these is the roamer. Buggy or rover?

aren't they both roamers

[hearty wasp]

rover's truck

[waxen cedar]

ah

[hushed bronze]

This game needs a 1930's hot rod

For a starship

[sly moss]

this is a thing of pure beauty

[slate veldt]

@hearty wasp what about replacing a space station with his head and you fly into the mouth?

[merry wasp]

lol

[viral badger]

Oh dear God, what you have you done.

[merry wasp]

he was already thinking of a Sean Sun

[hearty wasp]

yeah I mentioned that yesterday too

great minds think alike

[slate veldt]

Epic! Cant wait to see that monstrosity lol

[merry wasp]

btw the luas are done (unless you guys find some bugs ofc)

[slate veldt]

Yup, saw those. Ill have to check this weekend, irl work is going crazy lately so i havent had much playtime lately

[merry wasp]

np

i'm currently on break so yeah 😄

got time on my hands

[odd crater]

What have you done?

[hearty wasp]

things

[odd crater]

You're the mad scientist of NMS modding.

[hearty wasp]

oh

bubbles, huh

[waxen cedar]

Sean heads

[halcyon dock]

a good mod would be to allow bubbles to be popped. same with the floaty pink things on anomalous planets that have no hitbox

[manic lake]

Favorite reshade mods?

[hearty wasp]

bubbles are actually in clusters so you can't pop individual ones

they prolly made it unpopable just so it doesn't look out of place when a whole group of it disappears

[halcyon dock]

damn

yeah, i've suspected as much. would be worth a rework imo though, as it would make on-foot exploration more entertaining

[vernal fiber]

replace the bubble with the gib emote and watch them slowly rise out of the ground

[placid cedar]

what are some recccomended mods for a new player?

im a vr only boio

and i really just want utility

[waxen cedar]

are the current QS items actually buildable in the game yet?

the anomaly parts

[covert trail]

Any horror mods?

[merry wasp]

might be possible

or you mean for Euclid-Ea?

[waxen cedar]

the ones currently in progress

just wondering because if they weren't we would need to have an update when tier 1 gets completed

[white glen]

there will be soon

[left sentinel]

when did you record me in the restroom

[hearty wasp]

try Consumerism over at the modding discord

makes everything in QS shop instantly purchaseable

[merry wasp]

i think i might need a bigger screen

or an addional screen 😄

[waxen cedar]

also made the latest items disappear

[merry wasp]

ffs trying to make custom freighter mods with function and loops is annoying

all those damned vars

[hearty wasp]

use the lua

[waxen cedar]

oki

[hearty wasp]

eck, think NMSSE's coordinates viewer translation got messed up again

doesn't accurately translate portal codes to coords anymore

[fallow meadow]

What are the glyphs?

[hearty wasp]

I just built a portal to go there it all k

[fallow meadow]

Understand, just curious about the issue

[merry wasp]

just noticed a "bug" in freighter upgrades

NumStatMax = 2 but it only has 1 stat XD

seems they forgot the HyperDriveFuel

[hearty wasp]

https://fxtwitter.com/WSLTP/status/1431267761431330816

does this count as #content-creator-corner

[tepid jetty]

Have a quick question, I am playing No Mans Sky through Microsoft Gamepass for PC, am I still able to install mods this way since it's not in steam?

[unborn shale]

https://i.redd.it/7cqp7onj5wj71.jpg

[unborn shale]

@tepid jetty Yeah totally. Find your install folder

Then GAMEDATA/PCBANKS

In PCBANKS look for or make a folder called mods

And in the PCBANKS folder rename or delete the .txt called DISABLEMODS

[tepid jetty]

My man! Thanks, every video I saw mentioned the Steam version so wasn't sure if it was possible or not. So just install them right into the folder? There's no like Nexus Mod Manager for this game?

[unborn shale]

I like to rename it to ABLEMODS.txt so I can rename it if I want to deactive all mods (incase something is just crashing)

[hushed bronze]

If you continue to be this entertaining, Sean will never launch the update

He will just wake up excitedly like "Whoo! Lets go see what that crackpot put my face on today! XD"

[hearty wasp]

seeing the rate that Sean is tweeting, one may say he fears

but we'll see

[unborn shale]

@hushed bronze (continuing here) I know, before Origins I was like spreading the word of your extra biomes cuz of how they added back planets that had like desolate asset placement. (Big fan of your work) It reminded me a lot of pre-NEXT.

[hushed bronze]

Ty friend 🙂 Sadly that one hasn't seen an update in ages. But both HG themselves and another modder or two have since done a few similar things

[unborn shale]

Yeah tbh none of the biomes mods out now are any decent, they take away from the game more than they add imo. Ignacio's mod also has a bug where it can change the type of biome a planet has, which can reset the planet's discovery state, which can mean people can delete the "Discovery history" of a planet with out even realizing it if they have the mod active, and have not tested the changes on a lot of planets they already know well. (That's how I found out)

[hushed bronze]

Sadly that effect is true of vanilla too. If HG's update screws with the biome enough to change anything meaningfully, all but the topmost layer of discovery credit goes out the window

You still have credit for finding the planet but all the cretures and region finds are history

[unborn shale]

Atm I am modding the Redmas Fantasy overhaul's GridLayer Edits into DUD's Sky - Terrafirma so I can get the amazing old skool resource pillars from Redmas into the PreNEXT style NoiseLayers of DUD's sky

[hushed bronze]

(My biome mods did that too if it changed the world type)

[unborn shale]

Yeah I didnt use the more lush worlds one. Um, but the changing planet type is harsher than HG update changes

HG updates generally reset plants/rocks/animals

but a biome change resets planet name (the first thing you see)

[hushed bronze]

Try to watch carefully what edits you are making - you may find it a bit easier to understand than you may have expected

with the terrain stuff I mean

Y'know I don't think the discovery loss effect is noted on my type changers mod. I should go do that

[unborn shale]

Oh yeah its fine, I am going through each subtype one by one, closing everything other than teh min setting, then copying "gridlayers" from min to the grid layers from min into the DUD's Sky (which has more edits than E3style Resources pak in the latest fantasy overhaul split version) and then doing the same for teh "max values" again, only copy pasting the GridLayers sections.

[hushed bronze]

You know, odds are you can just add an underscore in front of jason's terra mod and use it over Fantasy outright. Why the careful conversion process?

[unborn shale]

Cuz when I did that, both ways by renaming the mods to test which load order was better, I found that I had one version or the other.

Urgh wont let me share a screen shot

https://ibb.co/wBYrws3

I am half way through anyway :3

[white glen]

its actually edited from the sound my sister made when she stepped on a lego + someone saying "f--- you" + a tiger's roar

[unborn shale]

Damn, so i turned it back into MBIN and repacked it into a .pak but the "merged" version only seems to have the effects off DUD's Sky Terrafirma. I guess I will have to do more research into both the mods and look at each value change vs the unmodded values.

Well at least I can explore 3 diff versions of the same planet xD

[sacred gulch]

So I tried to use this guide to transfer my Xbox Game Pass PC saves to Steam version of the game
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/lk6yk6/how_to_move_a_gamepass_save_to_steam/
However it doesn't work and NMS just starts a new game after loading the modified save, what's the issue? I made a new save by using autosave, or do I have to wait till I research the save beacon to make a manual save?

[fallow meadow]

Either save will do for creating an initial dummy

[magic spire]

did you do this?

• Open the Steam version of No Man's Sky.
• Build any item, such as a save beacon or refiner.
• Save and close the game.

[sacred gulch]

That's what I did, i built a refiner, and options told me there's already an autosave I can overwrite, so I did exactly that, the Save Editor normally found it and I edited the JSON

I also replaced the words fully, as in MissionId -> MissionID instead of just Id - ID

[magic spire]

I would go through all the steps again and make sure you didn't miss anything out or make a mistake, and double check you got all the UID and USN values right as in from Microsoft to Steam

[sacred gulch]

I only noticed that the 000000001 thingy is one number shorter than the UID/USN of the Steam ver, but dunno if it is anything to worry about

[magic spire]

well the best person to ask would be @vale iron

[sacred gulch]

First thing I did was DMing him but he's not online :P

[manic lake]

First time building a base in NMS, downloaded the beyond building mod and made an interesting all in 1 "ATM"
Can't post pics so here's link (:
https://imgur.com/a/Z2EMZVu

[fallow meadow]

The issue is more likely with a formatting issue or variable being wrong. There are tools online to parse JSON and see if it comes out correctly. However, if not parsing correctly, finding the issue can still be a pain. One wrong comma, or parenthesis, or bracket, can mess up the save

[magic spire]

which is probably what's happening if the game is just starting a new game the save is not right some how

[fallow meadow]

exactly

[sacred gulch]

I'll try again using the guide and we'll see

OH, OH!

It works

[fallow meadow]

So what did you do to make it work?

[sacred gulch]

There's an optional step to replace all "XB" with "ST" and I decided not to do that when trying again

Seems to be the solution somehow

[fallow meadow]

That is the variable used for platform (platform token (PTK), I think). Which in combination with the UID/LID is quite important, considering you swapped platform

[sacred gulch]

Won't it cause my player icon to display incorrectly?

Afaik playing on Steam (or Epic/GOG?) gives you the PC player icon, but Microsoft Store version always shows you as the xbox player

[fallow meadow]

Yes, the platform you play on decides on the icon. Not quite sure the save data is actually involved with that

[sacred gulch]

Lol, imagine if the game didn't break the save due to that
Playing on a PC but everyone thinks you're using playstation

Anyway, now it's solved, so thanks

[fallow meadow]

Have fun

[mossy perch]

ive updated an outdated mod via AMUMSS, now in which of CreatedModPAKs and Build folder do the updated mod located?

I mean, in between those two folders, which one should I copy the .pak files to the nms mod directory?

[hushed bronze]

Quick note, a new friend (Babscoole) has been helping to lua-fy and update a bunch of my mods, so if you're interested in updated copies of my mods, check the nexus, and you might find what you wanted 🙂

[mossy perch]

will do, thanks.

[merry wasp]

no wonder i got a bug

Ameraican

[hearty wasp]

Kek

[merry wasp]

sigh

idk if i should report this as a bug :/

[lime mesa]

I'm thinking of making a mod that allows you to stack modules as the other stack mods don't allow for that. What do you all think?

[merry wasp]

modules?

wdym?

@lime mesa

[hearty wasp]

Not sure if you can stack tech at all

[merry wasp]

upgrade mods no

[lime mesa]

Installable upgrades you can but from the station.

[merry wasp]

i tried that

once an item get a deploysintoID stacking goes out of the window

[lime mesa]

Yikes. Maybe not then

[merry wasp]

i tried it for my Craftable Upgrade Mods mod

i'd love to crafted stack of 100 mods in 1 go XD

[lime mesa]

Itd be awfully convenient if it was possible xD

[merry wasp]

well at least i can craft em

and that was my goal XD

[hearty wasp]

https://fxtwitter.com/WSLTP/status/1431633029206708226

[round sinew]

hahah grav balls

[smoky wing]

Lol, yeah noticed that got snuck in there. Almost like burying the lede.

[hearty wasp]

I particularly like how when I pause I can see Sean in the static

but yeah the I figured the glowing head would look better if it's only some selected parts

[hushed bronze]

Well, its a bug, so probably

[twilit smelt]

initially asking in #nms-questions , but it seems better suited to here:

i thought i was going to have to work with this, but then changed approach and didn't have to - but i'm still curious about how this would work, and i'd rather not experiment with it if it's already well known.
save editors allow you to move the base computer in your base by swapping it with one of several types of other portable devices. when you do this, i'm assuming your base is re-centered in terms of boundary expansion.
so, let's say you have a developed EM hotspot 950u from base center due north, and a developed mineral hotspot 950u due south. now, let's say you swap the base computer with a save beacon at the EM hotspot. the mineral hotspot is now almost twice the maximum buildable distance from your base computer.
now, i understand that these limits are kind of spongy in the first place, given that you can be 1000u from your base computer and then still build out farther via build camera. still... does this actually break anything? if not, is this a viable path to making bases far larger than would otherwise be possible?

[hearty wasp]

base computer is literally just an object

unless I'm proven wrong the computer itself has always been an object in the base and not the literal base origin itself

since you can see in json that those 2 are entirely separate

[twilit smelt]

devilin pixy pointed out the ability to make planet-spanning SRT loops in blender - so the question is really more about "does re-positioning the base computer re-center the base", and it sounds like you're saying "nah"

[fallow meadow]

Base Computer is actually always the 0,0,0 origin, with all other base parts being relative to it. The base computer itself has a position within the star system

If I were to move the Base Computer in a save editor, all the other base parts move along with it

[twilit smelt]

well, that's the thing - moving the base comp via portable object swap doesn't shift the other parts. that makes me think one of two things is going on: 1) translating locations for all other objects, or 2) just shifting the base comp object and leaving center where it is.

[fallow meadow]

When you 'swap' position for the base computer with another object, the new location is 'known' to then recalculate the other base parts (vector math matrix multiplication_

[hearty wasp]

just checked the base I had the computer moved and it looks like it just moved the "At" values for the object

[twilit smelt]

if that's the case, i didn't rediscover a megabase cheat. 😆

[hearty wasp]

tbh it'd prolly be useful to ask @sacred frigate about how the blender plugin handles it as well

I'd suggest asking goatfungus too but NMSSE ain't open source last I remember lol

[twilit smelt]

nor is nomnom - cengelha said it will when it goes from alpha to beta

[fallow meadow]

Each base part is made up of 3 vectors (position, up, and at). this is relative position to the base computer and orientation in the 3D world

[hearty wasp]

at least zencq is on this server and you can tag em if you wanna ask lol

btw we can also circumvent all this by using the blender plugin

or even just manually moving the object in json lmao

[fallow meadow]

I have worked with it long enough to know how it works, used to do all of this manually before tools like the Blender plugin came along.

[twilit smelt]

well, if we move the object, it sounds like we don't re-calc center, so boundaries don't shift; and if we shift center, all the other parts go with it, negating the megabase-target thing. hm.

[fallow meadow]

Well, sure you can move any object relatively easy, but for moving the base computer manually with all other parts staying where they are is easiest by using some vector math

If you want a mega base, just do it in blender

[hearty wasp]

the boundary's for building, not loading in the objects

[fallow meadow]

The boundary is just an in-game limitation

[twilit smelt]

right - assuming i was building in-game, the boundaries are important

[fallow meadow]

Yes, when building in-game it will be an issue

But, you can merge multiple bases into one ;-)

I have done this before as well on my home planet

[twilit smelt]

in blender you mean? that's a nice trick.

[fallow meadow]

It requires some logic work, but doable

[twilit smelt]

i tell you what i really want: more than 16k parts. 😠

[fallow meadow]

You need to calculate the difference between 2 base computers and apply that to one of the bases

[hearty wasp]

yeah I've been wanting to do that for my planetary objects as well

[fallow meadow]

Yeah, that's a bummer, but possible as well

[twilit smelt]

assuming not far enough where curvature is a problem

[hearty wasp]

it's fucked when you accidentally build outside the boundaries

[fallow meadow]

You apply 3D vectors, it's not a 2D move

[twilit smelt]

just re-associating a bunch of parts 90 degrees away on a planet to a new base comp doesn't adjust part rotation itself, right? separate operation?

or same operation, different calculation?

full disclosure: no intention of getting into blender, just curious.

[fallow meadow]

Different vector to calculate with, where an actual 90 degree rotation is relatively easy

In blender it is all a lot easier, because you do not usually have to do all the math yourself

[merry wasp]

fuck

[fallow meadow]

There are also tricks you can use @twilit smelt

[merry wasp]

Think is solved my 172 warnings

now thats left is the error

if i get this to work i refactored 8484 lines down to 1204 lines

[hearty wasp]

wow big flex

[merry wasp]

still wip tho

#compiling

[hoary sun]

Hi, does anyone know if its possible to get reshade mods working with nms in VR? It cant find much information about it, and changing it's settings only seems to effect the screen view of it

[merry wasp]

finally after 2 days of work

now i hope it works

XD

[fallow meadow]

I could be wrong as I am not all that familiar with VR, but I believe there is no VR support just yet for Reshade, other than the OpenVR support (currently D3D11 only)

[hoary sun]

ah ok, its a shame though because reshade would look great in virtual reality

[hoary sun]

A simple image sharpening shader for skyrim VR makes a huge difference. Hope it becomes compatible for nms at some point

[undone falcon]

any way to increase your inventory above 48?

[hearty wasp]

no

unless you count the storage/tech into one inventory

[undone falcon]

no i meant single tab, meh.
What about simplify craft? If you need products for craft, and you have resources, can you use a mod to auto craft them?

[hearty wasp]

prolly not

[undone falcon]

Damn. This game still very little QoL aspects after so many years. Thank you for answers @hearty wasp

[rustic knot]

Above 48 no, but having 99,999 of most stuff in a single stack yes. If you need more than that when all is said and done dont think its possible. There are workarounds though like installing the freighter with friends mod so you can always have your freighter storage. Hope that helps!

[clear tree]

Is there a mod for allowing you to change your ship on freighters and stations at all?

[vale iron]

No

[clear tree]

Dang it

[clear tree]

lol Put on 2 mods. Game won't run.

[vale iron]

What mods?

[clear tree]

Well first I was having a hell of a time finding one that reduced scan time. They all kept crashing the game. Now I'm hoping for one that kills the ship RNG. This one is less needed though.

I did find the scanning one I was looking for though.

[vale iron]

What are you wanting, a specific ship model or for them to always be S class?

[clear tree]

I've been trying S class max stats and inventory mods.

[vale iron]

This should be up to date:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/605

[clear tree]

I think this is one of the ones I tried already.

[hearty wasp]

https://fxtwitter.com/WSLTP/status/1431985273244504065

[delicate hamlet]

Where can I get mods?

[hearty wasp]

Nexus

[hoary drum]

Once the update finally comes out will you be compiling everything you gave a Sean head into a mod?

[hearty wasp]

after I update every other one of my mods, yeah

hopefully scenes don't get another changeup

else I may not

due to mental breakdown

[hoary drum]

We shall see then

What if on the next day you gave the giant space jellyfish the Sean head

[hearty wasp]

I may do something more cursed

have something lined up

[hoary drum]

Interesting...

[halcyon dock]

what if you replaced the bubbles on bubble planets with transparent sean heads?

[merry wasp]

i think that is one of his ideas

#nms-modding message

[halcyon dock]

ohhh I see

[hushed bronze]

When is it just gonna replace the sun

[merry wasp]

#nms-modding message

😄

great minds think alike

[hushed bronze]

Updated (by Babscoole) !
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1275

Babscoole has updated about ten of my mods in the last two days

[odd crater]

@hearty wasp #874277230895824926 message

[hearty wasp]

kek

[odd crater]

You've done it again.

[magic lava]

They are gonna hire Winder just to get him to stop

Lolol

[odd crater]

Give him access to the internal branch.

Just so he stops lol

[magic lava]

😄

[merry wasp]

nice

can some one make reture of this but make the red-> blue and also yellow (might make a find sunken ships one too :D)?

like dis

[vale iron]

@merry wasp

[merry wasp]

thx

[vale iron]

Hopefully they're the right DDS format

[merry wasp]

hope so too XD

but if it works another tiny mod release

hehe

@vale iron thx a ton again

[vale iron]

Glad it worked

[merry wasp]

mod works like a charm too 10 maps activated 10times differnt ship

if only i could filter on class XD

[hearty wasp]

my hand is so tired

[steel crypt]

use foot 🦵 . No surrender.

[hearty wasp]

I need a method to disable proc gen colours

can I just do some mask texture magic for that

or do I have to go into the mats

huh, don't see anything in the mat that indicates proc gen colours

[steel crypt]

Maybe then to "unproc coloring" of a texture you would have to go to the model and point it to new unique texture names that don't have texture mbins associated with them?

[hearty wasp]

I'm going bit too lazy to explore that rn tbh

[hearty wasp]

https://fxtwitter.com/WSLTP/status/1432379714623008772

[viral badger]

Dear God

[left sentinel]

and it's still not the end

[hearty wasp]

textures being 2D really doesn't make anything pop

[vernal fiber]

can you use normal maps on those?

could bake one with your model and apply it over

[hearty wasp]

computer generation doesn't really do good jobs on something as organic as a face

also if I'm putting on a model I already have Sean's head

but I feel that intrusive

[heavy oar]

And lets have nightmare before the update tomorow wohooo

[cinder valley]

our nightmare is the update itself

[merry wasp]

@frail yew https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2045

[frail yew]

damn

[merry wasp]

^^

[merry wasp]

fun thing it's not cheaty

you still have to upgrade the slots yourself

[frail yew]

so what does it do then?

just lets you buy them?

[merry wasp]

no the upgrade process is the same but instead of C be capped at fe 28 /7

the cap is moved to 48/21

[frail yew]

ahhhhh

that's cool

[merry wasp]

it is 😄 and i love it XD

been looking into upgrading the freighter class but thats far off

[frail yew]

O_o

keep me posted lol i'd love to hear how that goes

[merry wasp]

me too XD

[spring vessel]

this might just be the worst best one yet

[hearty wasp]

yeah this is definitely the most intricate

thing with 3d models is that you can't warp em

but at least 3d models are 3d

[spring vessel]

I definitely appreciate the effort being put into this

[hearty wasp]

good learning experience too

p funny some people actually think I'm angry or sth

[spring vessel]

a shocking number of people are completely oblivious to satire

[hearty wasp]

ikr

also

https://www.pcgamer.com/no-mans-sky-fan-modding-sean-murrays-head-into-the-game-as-a-form-of-playful-protest/#comment-jump

[pastel socket]

@hearty wasp you absolute madman

Incredible

Lmfao Sean is onto you

[covert trail]

@hearty wasp congarts on getting on the news are there other ones besides us tho?

[wraith osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/cw0r3v/guide_no_mans_sky_beyond_v20_fps_stutter_fix/

just putting this here till i come home so i dont forget lol

[left sentinel]

be careful with this as it can cause your game to crash at unexpected times

[wraith osprey]

i mod this game a lot, crashes are nothing new to me xD

[dire oak]

@magic lava i am barely at the first step and i have no idea what to do

[fallow meadow]

What exactly are you having issues with? Save file transfer from GamePass to Steam?

[magic lava]

Yeah

Just follow the long version - gives links for what you need

[dire oak]

yeah i tried but the tutorial is just straight out bad

it tells me to do shit without telling me how to do it

he tells me to link my gamepass save folder and stuff

[fallow meadow]

How to do what?

[dire oak]

it's maybe just me not being good with tutorial

but idk

[fallow meadow]

I'm not seeing where it tells you to link your save folder

You need to open you GamePass save in NomNom first to be able to save it as JSON. Then you need to have a dummy Steam save which you open in NMSSE for editing

It is quite a lot of work to transfer and mistakes are easily made, so make sure to pretty much follow the guide by the letter. Any specific questions, feel free to ask of course, as I am very familiar with the guide as well as the editor(s)

[dire oak]

literally went in all of the steam folders and didn't found a save file

maybe it's in the documents folder

idk i'll try again later

[fallow meadow]

Check below for locations of save files per platform:

[hardy aurora]

Save File Locations

GoG: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...
Steam: %appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...
Game Pass: %LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

Note: When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Shared by: @fallow meadow

[dire oak]

huh

well i was going to play call of duty but then i realized this will be worth my time more

i'll try again

[vale iron]

NomNom has a transfer feature now, though I don't know how it works

[dire oak]

uh

the transfer system looks weird

but i'll try it

[fallow meadow]

Included in the latest update?

[vale iron]

Yeah

[fallow meadow]

That's cool, was not aware

[dire oak]

k i'll check if it works if i can figure it out

[fallow meadow]

Ah yes:

Saves can be transferred to another platform (between any supported) or to a different account within the same platform.

[vale iron]

The only problem is uploaded bases, as we've discussed before

[dire oak]

well on my steam account i don't have any bases

k i filled out everything but i have no idea wtf to do now

maybe it already did it

let's check

[magic lava]

I have all my bases

[vale iron]

The problem is if you upload a base in MS, then transfer the save to Steam, you end up with duplicated bases

[magic lava]

Ahhhhh

Wait, like they are both present at once?

[fallow meadow]

Yeah, I am aware, and saw the discussion you had with Zencq. No idea either how to properly solve without actually going in-game.

[dire oak]

https://prnt.sc/1qvjw50
what do i do after i filled that out?

[fallow meadow]

@magic lava The issue is that an uploaded base on one platform, is copied to a new platform and therefor ends up existing on both platforms, unless you go back into the old platform to remove those bases after the transfer.

[dire oak]

it doesn't give me anything other to press so yeah no idea how do i do the save file transfer

[magic lava]

What effect does that have on the game though? I'm not following the problem

[fallow meadow]

Did you choose a destination?

[dire oak]

yes

[fallow meadow]

Hmmm, I just got the updated version. Will have a look, if possible, as I do not have another platform to transfer from myself

[dire oak]

basically i filled that out and i don't know how to "apply" the transfer

[fallow meadow]

I do indeed not see any button or otherwise to continue from that window

[dire oak]

yeah this stuff confusing as heck

idk what to press and it didn't apply on my steam save

oh hold up

i think i did something

it worked!

like magic

[fallow meadow]

What did you do? I am just as confused about the UI

[dire oak]

https://prnt.sc/1qvkevp

crappy UI

should have made the button actually look like a button

omg it saved everything

[fallow meadow]

You are saying that 'Destination' itself is a button?

[dire oak]

no

the copy one

i thought it's just an icon

[fallow meadow]

The icon of overlapping folders?

[dire oak]

yes

[fallow meadow]

Ah ok!

[dire oak]

i am surprised on how simple and smooth that thing worked

[fallow meadow]

I would suggest to leave some feedback on the Github by creating an issue:
https://github.com/cengelha/NomNom/issues

[dire oak]

yes

github has some cool signup screen

[fallow meadow]

I can't really check that myself, as I have no other platform to test with. So for me it doesn't even become a button, as I do not have a proper destination. I trust you when you say it works flawless otherwise, as they did a mighty fine job creating this editor. Still a work in progress though, for which feedback is precious!

[dire oak]

i haven't checked the bases

[fallow meadow]

If you still have access to the previous platform, confirming the transfer worked without issue, you can always go back into GamePass in-game to delete the bases there through the Base Computer, to then go into Steam and upload them in-game.

That would then properly fix any possible duplication of bases on both platforms

[dire oak]

i'll check out the space anomaly and check if all of my bases are fine

i didn't build anything serious but i just wanna see if it worked actually flawlessly

they all there

god that worked much better than i expected

[fallow meadow]

@dire oak Have fun and I am sure the creator appreciates the feedback you left on Github

[tepid jetty]

Can anyone explain how mods will be affected in the new update? I don’t use LUA scripts but if I use that, will I be able to use mods after the update or am I at the mercy of waiting for mods to be updated. First time playing during a major update.

[fallow meadow]

Any major update to the game will likely break mods, which will then have to be disabled until MBINCompiler has updated to fix them. Having the Lua scripts will 'then' allow you to attempt updating them through AMUMSS. Alternatively you can wait for mods to update.

[tepid jetty]

Thanks @fallow meadow, so the only difference between putting mods in mod folder and using AMUMSS is the auto update?

[fallow meadow]

AMUMSS is just a different way to create mods, which includes some handy tools to attempt update or merge. It still relies on MBINC to update with major updates in case of mods breaking

All mods rely on MBINC for that matter, but the 'classic' way of creating mods, results in just the .pak(s), which will then have to be updated to work again.

The Lua script for AMUMSS is able to attempt recreating an updated .pak (mod)

[fallow meadow]

The actual result you use is the same, a .pak file, the creation process and tools that come with it are different.

[verbal crest]

Any must try mods?

[fallow meadow]

Totally depends on your own personal preference. I would suggest to check NexusMods and sort by 'last updated' to see if anything stands out to you

[waxen cedar]

@hearty wasp what is today's Sean

[hearty wasp]

oh I was busy chatting with people

hold on

[waxen cedar]

Space station Sean?

where we fly into his mouth

that should shock him

[hearty wasp]

I can't upload the video

it's 3 minutes long

[waxen cedar]

no Sean for today :c

don't give up

[hearty wasp]

I have to be partner to upload more than 140 sec

[waxen cedar]

but is it Sean Stations?

[hearty wasp]

https://fxtwitter.com/WSLTP/status/1432735390822113285

[heavy oar]

Oh for fuck sake l9l

Lol

At least someone giving us content

[vernal fiber]

soon, everything will be sean-right

[heavy oar]

Everything should

[sleek dune]

no man's sean the game

[left sentinel]

All Sean's Face

[smoky wing]

The Seaniverse

[hushed bronze]

What kinda horrible mods are you running that cause you frequent crashes lol

[modest mulch]

Can I turn aliens words into an English while living game's language Russian? Maybe there's a file of localised alien words I can replace by an English one?

[hushed bronze]

Are you trying to use English as the game language or just the alien parts?

[modest mulch]

I want to set English only for alien words (because translation of alien words technically done very, very bad – even if you're "learned" all alien words you barely can understand what they say)

[hearty wasp]

I think it'd just involve editing the related language entries

[modest mulch]

How? I'm just never into modding NMS

[hearty wasp]

from my understanding, the alien sentences are all translated from English to alien, and then alien to native

if you've never modded the game read this https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:1.0.0

[modest mulch]

not sentences, words seperately

[limpid flame]

is it difficult to mod no mans sky since it's multiplayer?

ive never modded anything but i hear with vortex you just download the mod and go

[modest mulch]

I think there's somewhere should be a files with "alien word = human word" vocabulary and so, i think it would be very easy to replace those files for other language with English ones... easy for who have experience with NMS modding. I see that large amount of text in the link you gave me (and this text contains another links with large amount of text) and think it will be very hard to understand how the NMS modding works. So, I would like a modder to make such a mod. For now, I will try to find a video tutorial on how to make a mod for NMS (всё-таки, seeing toutorial in action in English is not as tedious as reading a mountain of English text 😄), but if it would not be difficult for you to make such a mod for me (and for other people who play in a non-English language), I would be very grateful

[hearty wasp]

not at all

[limpid flame]

I will check them out -- I was shocked to see a modding channel for this game -- you'd think they'd have like anti-cheat or something lol

[hearty wasp]

yes, and that file is the English language files, hence why I said translated from English to alien

all alien sentences are written in English, then when it's displayed is translated into its "alien" text, and when if the word is known, then translated into the game's current set language

but for your case's purpose, you should only need to edit your set language, which is Russian's, language files

[modest mulch]

Yeah, i know, and becauseof it's translating each word seperately, in languages that far from English, it looks very akward

[hearty wasp]

yeah ik

imagine how it'd look in Japanese lmao

I'm not sure where you would go about rectifying the grammar for your language, but it's either in the English or current set language files

[wraith osprey]

outdated ones xD

[modest mulch]

Hello, I have read the link you provided, installed Mod Organizer and PSArcTool, but can't see how to make an mod... wait, is it was a tutorial for installing mods? I doing it by Vortex and by "I'm just never into modding NMS" I meant I never modify the game. Oh, I through "to mod" = "to modify" (= to edit game's files = to make a mod), oh my English

[hearty wasp]

you should also get the latest mbincompiler and maybe modding station as well

https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/320

[modest mulch]

So, can you do this mod for me? Because I don't know what PCBanks should I edit... and what should I edit

[hearty wasp]

didn't realise the Stepmod guide yote instructions in 1.0

try this https://nmsmodding.fandom.com/wiki/Getting_Started

[hearty wasp]

I'm too lazy

[modest mulch]

I'm too 😭. But thanks for the link, I'm try to get into it

But how can I understand what the .pak I need? Should I to unpack all of them?

[hearty wasp]

the initial set up can be daunting

yeah just unpack them all

modding station should have a button to automatically unpack

but using the AMUMSS explorer should give you a more complete extraction

[modest mulch]

So, the AMUMSS is the better version of MBINCompiler?

[hearty wasp]

nope, just utilities that lets you traverse and edit the files easier

amumss you can prolly just google

[modest mulch]

What is I should put in EXML Editor Path in NMS Mod Station?

[hearty wasp]

do you have a text editor

[modest mulch]

Ok

[hearty wasp]

that you use to edit text files with

[modest mulch]

Does it xml-structured?

[hearty wasp]

yeah they're all in markup language

[modest mulch]

Now I should click Unpack Game Files, right?

In the folder I set in Unpacked Game Files Path?

I have only models and textures folders, is it ok?

[hearty wasp]

no

the files you're looking for should be in the language folder

[modest mulch]

O, it wasn't unpacked yet. It was showing "Ready" for a few minutes, and now back to "Unpacking Game Files"

[modest mulch]

Is it ok that after NMS_LOC1 there's NMS_LOC4?

[merry wasp]

there are multiple different language files if that's what you're asking

Loc1 Update3, loc4, loc5, loc6

[modest mulch]

Hm, I haven't LOC2

[merry wasp]

sorry kinda auto pilot typing

[modest mulch]

ok

[modest mulch]

I probably found what I searched for. Can I delete the Properties I left untoched?

Wait, I'll edit .exml, convert it back to mbin and that file will be a completely finished mod?

[hearty wasp]

first we need to confirm a few things

does your modified file resides under the same folder structure as the vanilla file

[modest mulch]

ow, I need to also convert it to .pak saving folder structure

I need to put it in folder (as original file was) and that folder move to MBINCompiler, right?

[hearty wasp]

just dragging the exml will do but the folder'll be ok too

just don't make dragging the folder a habit

[modest mulch]

So I can drag exml to MBINC and that will be enough to create a mod?

[hearty wasp]

no

that'll make your exml into an mbin

you then pack the entire folder structure into a pak

are you still using modding station btw

[modest mulch]

yes

[hearty wasp]

ok so

you can right click a vanilla file on the "Unpacked Game Files" side

"Copy to project path" will have the selected file copied into "Your Project" side with the entire folder structure

and then you can click pack mod to pack the mod

[modest mulch]

Ok. And I can rename the .mbin files, right?

[hearty wasp]

why would you want to

[modest mulch]

I wanna create 1 file for all langs instead many files for each lang as orig

[hearty wasp]

you can't

[modest mulch]

because the exml of each file have all langs trees but only one of it is filled

[hearty wasp]

you can only replace vanilla files with your current implementation

[hearty wasp]

because language files work that way

one suffix for one language

so just edit all the languages if you want

[modest mulch]

Why? Each file have all languages properties, just the values (exept one lang) is empty. I can just fill this values, isn't it would work?

[hearty wasp]

no

because the game isn't set up that way

think of it as an arbitrary rule

because that's exactly what it is

so just replace vanilla files

[modest mulch]

Can I convert several files at once into exml using NMS MS?

What to use to edit exml? My notepad++ dies if I try to open it, and WebStorm doesn't allow me to edit it

[hearty wasp]

np++ should handle it fine

[odd crater]

Sean's spirit is almost broken.

[lusty nymph]

he knows how to fix it.

[frail yew]

is there a mod that lets you use your multitool in space stations?

i need jetpack lunge

[vale iron]

No

[frail yew]

damn

is there any other trick that allows for faster movement in space stations

i've seen people running around the anomaly a lot faster than normal, is that just exosuit movement upgrades?

[vale iron]

Or a mod that increases your speed

[waxen cedar]

just use rocket boots module. Allows you to get almost the same speed as melee boost

[frail yew]

awesome

thanks

[main granite]

How do you use the rocket boots?

[spring vessel]

double tap and hold jump

once you're up in the air you can let go and just boost yourself every so often to keep altitude

[tepid jetty]

A question about mods that change planet generation (lush, adds more items, etc..) does this also affect people in your group? As in will people also see the things generated if I “discover” it first

[modest mulch]

I think they will only if have that mod installed too

[tepid jetty]

So two players on the same planet see two different planets?

[steel crypt]

If they are on the "same" planet. A mod can also change if a planet exists and where and what type.

read the pins 🙂

[tepid jetty]

Pins?

[steel crypt]

There is an icon on the top bar "pinned messages" @tepid jetty

[tepid jetty]

Got it! Thanks! Only showed me the “threads” option

[cerulean hearth]

Mod please

[vale iron]

It's a number value, the PlanetBaseLimit, RegionLimit, PlanetLimit, and FreighterBaseLimit

[cerulean hearth]

Where to access this

[vale iron]

METADATA\REALITY\TABLES\BASEBUILDINGTABLE.MBIN

[cerulean hearth]

Thank you mate

Ill fill my refinery base with an army of large refinery

[hearty wasp]

Mod machine broke, most mods (minus most texture mods) are broke. Game go kaboom with broken mods. No modding for days

^pin if readable enough

[odd crater]

[hearty wasp]

laughs in steam offline mode

I still have Sean with me

[spring vessel]

works for me 😄

[round canopy]

probably a dumb question but did you make sure to delete the "DISABLEMODS" text file again?

[odd crater]

I think the base building tables are broken.

Winder does buildable stuff.

[hearty wasp]

No it's just a norm that big updates break most mods

We'll know more when we get a report from monkeyman / wberto

[spring vessel]

Given the amount of content added it's pretty much a dead cert that MBINCompiler will need the usual love

[cobalt condor]

I'm really interested in seeing the patch notes and report on the files

[hearty wasp]

full discrepancy report in modding discord

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[spring vessel]

Looks like they touched nearly everything then

[cobalt condor]

main feature of the update is certainly complex, but I don't see much that would entail most files to change 🤔

[hearty wasp]

"90000 modified files" I think lo2k said

[vale iron]

Yeah, I'm scared to look at that report

[steel crypt]

What's the over-under for patches? I'm going with 5 patches before settling.

[hearty wasp]

I gotta check and fix my ~1200 scenes again

F U N

[obsidian tree]

https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/issues/377

Report on how fucked we are by this update 🙃

[unborn shale]

@hushed bronze It's a long shot but I hope they implemented your base building "accessibility" features into the update. The fact that you don't need the mod to see the stuff it can do is criminal. Makes me wonder how many people come across other bases that have Rusted/Stone/Wooden basic metal re textures and hope they will find out how to "unlock it" some day.

[odd crater]

They changed biomes and environment related structs again.
For strictly nothing.

[viral badger]

||There's a fair amount of visual updating - noticed some grass gen changes and improved textures.||

[odd crater]

They don't need to rebuild the spawning structure to tweak grass.

Also it appears that they reverted their quality related placement settings to pre Prisms.

[unborn shale]

I am so happy that my favorite terrain pak that edits just GridLayers still works

[hearty wasp]

they do do this sorta back and forth from time to time

[odd crater]

Yeah but all biome mods are incompatible now.

And need to be rebuilt like they were pre Prisms.

[unborn shale]

Well for some reason a planet that didnt have salvaged scrap

[odd crater]

I don't get it. Really.

[unborn shale]

now does have salvaged scrap

Maybe they wanted to change the rarity of stuff like that

Doesn't it just take one change to the Vanilla MBIN to break a mod?

[spring vessel]

From the notes:

||A new save streaming system has been implemented, making more efficient use of memory. Very large saves are now supported, allowing for thousands of hours of play.||

So the save editor is probably dead

[unborn shale]

Well tbh if they want to make discoveries stable they ought to find a way to either ignore discoveries that from a save that changes that planet's biome from vanilla. Or alas make it so you cannot change what type of biome a planet is. Right now though I personally see the discovery reset issue related to planet names when a mod changes its base biome as a problem. Generally things that erase galactic history is a bit of an issue for me xD

[hearty wasp]

nah it prolly just means the game is streaming data from the disc to memory

not like, from the cloud

it's like the 2077 way and the NOT 2077 way

[spring vessel]

My reading is, that they've likely changed the save file so it's "chunked".- i.e. they can read parts of the save file, without reading the whole thing. Which would fix terrain regen. But, it would be impossible without substantially changing the save file format.

[hearty wasp]

we'll see what zencq has to say once they got to it lol

may just need a major overhaul lel

[unborn shale]

I think the save system is a bit screwy though, I dunno what or how this occured, but after a long time of exploring a lot. Some of the systems I discover do not appear in the normal systems menus, and appear as "removed systems". And I wonder if I fill up the removed systems tab also, what will happen to the systems I discover after that one is full?

[odd crater]

Wouhou!

Objects tables are unchanged!

Biomes files are toast, though.

Also they seem to have messed with placement tiles.

Wonder why.

[honest herald]

Biomes files are toast? What does that mean? Haha shit.

[spring vessel]

Something else to consider, if they wanted to have multiple universes in parallel, they'd need something like this too...

[odd crater]

It means I don't have to rebuild the 100k + parts for my mod.

But I can't modify base biome files to actually update it.

[honest herald]

You mean you do have to rebuild? Or you don't because you can't? (Confused by but)

[odd crater]

I only need to rebuild the easier part.

Once MBINCompiler is updated it will take me like 20 minutes tops.

[hollow oar]

Is there any kind of list of time-limited items that can be added to GCUSERSETTINGSDATA.MXML to unlock them? I think I have most of them but just want to check before getting into the new update

[frozen spoke]

Has the seasonal data for exped 3 been updated?

Any dates added now?

[cunning robin]

Are there any mods that give more opportunities to play as a criminal/space pirate? As far as I know all that can be done at the moment is blowing up cargo from freighters to get their stuff.

[hearty wasp]

also don't think so even if not broken

[cunning robin]

Alright, sorry.

[unborn shale]

@hushed bronze Damn I hope you can back mod back in the recolour features cuz I miss them already xD

[hearty wasp]

don't need to be sorry, just need you to have the right expectations lel

[grand schooner]

ik the update hasn't been out for long but is there a mod to reduce building time for settlements?

[hearty wasp]

[hearty wasp]

oh I should post this here as well https://fxtwitter.com/WSLTP/status/1433070525799010310

[jolly creek]

yo

[rare roost]

this is sick

[sleek dune]

@hearty wasp can you make a mod that adds back the original build sets of wood concrete and metal?

[hearty wasp]

prolly?

[sleek dune]

epik

they shouldnt have removed them cuz they still look cool

[left sentinel]

shouldn't be hard I think, they're all in the game as legacy parts

once save editor updates you can edit your save to learn all those parts

[hearty wasp]

yeah still have to see if they're in legacy basebuilding table or the proper one

[sleek dune]

like i know they made better ones but there's no reason to remove the old ones

[hearty wasp]

the game don't remove existing ones, yes?

[sleek dune]

having both would just increase the variety of bases even more

[left sentinel]

they didnt want to retexture the old ones into the new as it would make old bases look incredibly weird

[hearty wasp]

also they're different sizes... again

[left sentinel]

lmao

[hearty wasp]

from what I've heard, at least

[sleek dune]

still in the game cuz old players still have them

[hearty wasp]

we've had, what, 2 sizing standards yote into legacy now?

first the infrastructure ones, now the basic ones

I respect HG and like the game, but this is so unnecessary

[sleek dune]

also does anyone know what was removed with this?

[hearty wasp]

anyway if they're "disabled" like the infrastructure ones I should be able to re-enable em with Eucli-ea

[sleek dune]

o nice

[left sentinel]

the "large power door" that would show up sometimes

and some parts that got repeated

[sleek dune]

but what about the normal power door

[left sentinel]

still exists

[sleek dune]

cuz the garage door thing is awesome

ok nice

but with the new building sets too?

[left sentinel]

once you'd buy a normal power door sometimes a "large power door" would appear below it

[sleek dune]

oh

[left sentinel]

it was not buildable

[sleek dune]

lol

[left sentinel]

yep they exist

[hearty wasp]

that's the basic parts garage door right