#nms-modding | No Man's Sky | Page 199

unborn olive Mar 29, 2021, 1:48 AM

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@tropic wind if I change my survival save to normal, will I still be in the survival seed? If so, how do I switch to the normal seed? (I was told they use different seeds)

tropic wind Mar 29, 2021, 1:49 AM

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no clue

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i just made the pin

unborn olive Mar 29, 2021, 1:51 AM

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what's a way I can check? like if it works, will the system I'm in change (I'm assuming; I removed my bases and went to my freighter)

tropic wind Mar 29, 2021, 1:52 AM

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again, idk. i think if you ask around here and in #nms-questions , someone should know

grizzled sphinx Mar 29, 2021, 2:59 AM

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hey anyone here know how i can skip or accelerate the Awakenings quests?

cyan patrol Mar 29, 2021, 2:59 AM

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Or, more fittingly, if there's a mod that might permit that.

grizzled sphinx Mar 29, 2021, 2:59 AM

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yeah

vale moat Mar 29, 2021, 3:17 AM

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I'm trying to run the Fine LOD mod, it's a really small .pak file, which i placed in PCBANKS folder, how do i tell if it is installed & working?

waxen cedar Mar 29, 2021, 3:22 AM

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you need to create a folder called MODS in there and place the mod there

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also delete text file called DISABLEMODS

vale moat Mar 29, 2021, 3:23 AM

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ohhh!

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ok

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it's showing up, ty mucho!

hushed bronze Mar 29, 2021, 3:28 AM

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You talking retrofitting the legacy freighter to work in modern or mods specifically to run with a legacy version?

clear ravine Mar 29, 2021, 3:28 AM

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probably easier to make a mod to refine food into nanites

runic solstice Mar 29, 2021, 3:29 AM

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Hmm, thats weird. The save editor keeps throwing errors at me.

hushed bronze Mar 29, 2021, 3:30 AM

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Error: Your Edits r bad and you should feel bad 😛

runic solstice Mar 29, 2021, 3:30 AM

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I am not doing advanced stuff.

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Just expanding and enabling slots.

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Its says the program has no permission to write the file in backups.

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Thats quite a fail.

clear ravine Mar 29, 2021, 3:37 AM

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windows folder permissions?

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also probably not smart to edit a backup, unless you make another copy first

runic solstice Mar 29, 2021, 3:42 AM

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I found the problem. The dev of the save editor goofed. Turns out, while writing the save file the program sets the backups file to read-only.

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Which means that when the program wants to get access to the file for writing, it cannot because the file is read only.

clear ravine Mar 29, 2021, 3:45 AM

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that might be intentional? is there in option in the program to restore a backup?

runic solstice Mar 29, 2021, 3:47 AM

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This is a fresh install of the save editor, there are no backups.

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Interesting, so creating a new slot or replacing an old is possible, but overwriting save or save2 isn't.

obsidian tree Mar 29, 2021, 5:05 AM

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fwiw here was my initial working on finding these numbers and some random maths stuff: #425756039091060767 message

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you'll need to be on the modding discord to see it

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but yeah, as has been said, these numbers are incremented but they can probably be determined based on some of the equations I pasted in that link

hearty wasp Mar 29, 2021, 8:39 AM

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unborn olive <@!561905281009844225> if I change my survival save to normal, will I still be i...

prolly

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is the vanilla version like a thing you put in a machine to convert

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if the thing accepts multiples of an item as input then it should be doable

edgy ivy Mar 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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hushed bronze You talking retrofitting the legacy freighter to work in modern or mods specific...

The first one, yeah.

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Same, I imagine many things the game could do with but modding and coding skills... nada.

spare parcel Mar 29, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Hi there, I'm trying out NMS modding today and i wanted to see if someone could maybe help me with the beginning a bit.
i've modded Skyrim and Fallout some time ago but i'm not entirely sure how it'd work with NMS

I'd also have a couple more questions if anyone has the time :)

hearty wasp Mar 29, 2021, 5:46 PM

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just type out the questions and people will answer if they have the time lol

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that's the miracle of text based messaging okglove

spare parcel Mar 29, 2021, 5:51 PM

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alrighty

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Do i need to use a ModManager? If not where do i put the Mods?

Does it have a Multiplayer Impact, can others see my stuff

As well as achievements, do they get blocked when modding?

and are there potential Bans/Limitations when modding?

hearty wasp Mar 29, 2021, 6:05 PM

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inside PCBANKS folder, make a new folder named MODS, put mods inside that one and delete DISABLEMODS.TXT

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prolly not cos I haven't heard anyone complained about it
crossplay can be a bit unstable for the other end but I haven't heard of anyone getting banned since that system doesn't exist

spare parcel Mar 29, 2021, 6:16 PM

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i've gotten that picture sent to me twice and i can't read it

hearty wasp Mar 29, 2021, 6:21 PM

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it's a 2mb png, you can click open original and read it

spare parcel Mar 29, 2021, 6:39 PM

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it always goes blurry for me, but i can read the bottom line lmao

left sentinel Mar 29, 2021, 6:47 PM

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Literal bottom line is the same one from in game, Hello Games copyright stuff

hearty wasp Mar 29, 2021, 6:55 PM

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lel

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if you wanna read just the image you can also check out the documentation itself https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/824?tab=images

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Intelligence Enhancer (Mod and Resource)

This simple mod will enhance your intelligence to remind you that mods, in fact, work in multiplayer.

edgy ivy Mar 29, 2021, 8:00 PM

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hearty wasp if you wanna read just the image you can also check out the documentation itself...

Does the mod still work with Origins?

hearty wasp Mar 29, 2021, 8:00 PM

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ye

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it's one of the most update-proof mod that's ever existed for NMS

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next to warp texture replacers, I suppose

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those are pretty much eternal

hallow pumice Mar 29, 2021, 8:15 PM

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dO moDs gIt mE bAnd?

hearty wasp Mar 29, 2021, 8:18 PM

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at least it doesn't give perganant

edgy ivy Mar 29, 2021, 8:36 PM

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How easy would it be to make this work with Origins?
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1064?tab=description

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

WinderTP's Ships of Moar - Custom-Modeled Ships

A spiritual remake of Kremit's MoarShips.Same idea, different execution, lower effort. Replaces the Shuttles spaceship type with 40 different custom ships.Some Sci-fi, some historica

hearty wasp Mar 29, 2021, 8:38 PM

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very difficult

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it took kibs 2 weeks I think

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it's in testing rn if you wanna go to the modding discord

edgy ivy Mar 29, 2021, 8:39 PM

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hearty wasp it's in testing rn if you wanna go to the modding discord

Oh cool

hearty wasp Mar 29, 2021, 8:39 PM

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also Krem quit because of this mod and I think it's telling of how hard this thing is to maintain

edgy ivy Mar 29, 2021, 8:40 PM

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"Same idea, different execution, lower effort."
Lol

hearty wasp Mar 29, 2021, 8:41 PM

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it's staying that way I guess

edgy ivy Mar 29, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Would like NMS modding better if there were actual modloaders capable of actually adding to the game, it seems the most modding is capable of here is replacing content.

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My biggest I-want to Sean, full modding capabilities and a better framework more capable than the current one allowing, for instance, moving freighters

fathom turtle Mar 30, 2021, 11:48 AM

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Okay so I have a question for you, regarding the pets mod.

vale iron Mar 30, 2021, 11:48 AM

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The timer one?

fathom turtle Mar 30, 2021, 11:49 AM

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I saw you updated it and-

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Yep

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The growth and no growth.

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So if I, let's say have a fully grown companion right now, hatched and all, and I remove the mod as of this instance, would it revert back to an egg?

vale iron Mar 30, 2021, 11:50 AM

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Not to an egg, but back to how old it would normally be

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After hatch

fathom turtle Mar 30, 2021, 11:50 AM

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Ah.

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So that being said, would it bug my game should there be a 4 generation skip?

vale iron Mar 30, 2021, 11:51 AM

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Nope, shouldn't have any negative effects

fathom turtle Mar 30, 2021, 11:52 AM

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Alright, so I'll need to wait for it to be fully grown as such once I remove the mod.

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Isn't there a way to counter this or... Is that simply impossible to implement?

vale iron Mar 30, 2021, 11:53 AM

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You would need a mod of some kind to get around the growth timer

fathom turtle Mar 30, 2021, 11:53 AM

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Alright, modding a mod to... Mod the game.

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Basically?

vale iron Mar 30, 2021, 11:54 AM

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Yeah, you could have a mod that only did the growth timer part of it

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it basically has a counter in the save file and the mod tells it how long each growth cycle is on that timer

fathom turtle Mar 30, 2021, 11:54 AM

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Alright. Do you know of such a mod perhaps?

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If you don't mind.

vale iron Mar 30, 2021, 11:56 AM

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Unfortunately, no, but I haven't had time to keep up with releases lately, though it's been slow

fathom turtle Mar 30, 2021, 11:56 AM

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Ah. That's fine.

steel crypt Mar 30, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Does anyone know if there is a control that would decrease standing with a race over time interval? In other words, if you don't actively increase your standing then it will decrease over time.

young nimbus Mar 30, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Don't know of anything that actively degrades your standing with a race over time if you aren't actively increasing it. Pretty sure it is static at whatever condition you leave it in at any given time.

edgy ivy Mar 30, 2021, 3:14 PM

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steel crypt Does anyone know if there is a control that would decrease standing with a race ...

Probably a good idea such a control probably doesn't exist.

flint pebble Mar 30, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Then all the korvax casings i gave 3 years ago would be worthless

hushed bronze Mar 30, 2021, 5:51 PM

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#PastLivesMatter

edgy ivy Mar 30, 2021, 8:02 PM

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hushed bronze #PastLivesMatter

#bluelivesmatter
The illuminated portions of Korvax are blue... Korvax were historically oppressed

hushed bronze Mar 30, 2021, 8:14 PM

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#SimulatedLivesMatter

hearty wasp Mar 30, 2021, 11:19 PM

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you love to see it

waxen cedar Mar 31, 2021, 5:04 AM

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so you know how they have the special styledata for text and how you can actually input that in game and rename stuff with different colors etc.

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I discovered that if you attempt to use some of the proc gen instruments under <AUDIO> you'll get constantly changing text

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Every time I refresh that page my multitool changes its name

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This gave me the idea that there has to be a way to also include scrolling text and other text effects from the game to your own renames

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Okay. I attempted to rename some plants and well, they changed their names a couple of times before settling to one

west needle Mar 31, 2021, 5:12 AM

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waxen cedar so you know how they have the special styledata for text and how you can actuall...

you can do what

waxen cedar Mar 31, 2021, 5:13 AM

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west needle you can do *what*

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this

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old stuff but yea

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after forgetting the thing for quite a while I suddenly remembered it again which made me realize there has to be more we can do with this

west needle Mar 31, 2021, 5:15 AM

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oh, that's neat, i'm surprised it's not used more
how does it work?

waxen cedar Mar 31, 2021, 5:17 AM

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well you just use the names of the TextStyleData.xml in angle brackets before the text you desire to edit

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for example

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<CR_HEAD>SeanMurray<> and you'll get a hecking huge text

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nice if you want your bases to stand out

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xD

west needle Mar 31, 2021, 5:19 AM

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yeah

waxen cedar Mar 31, 2021, 5:19 AM

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but I was just wondering about other things like the scrolling/slowly appearing text in dialog boxes

waxen cedar Mar 31, 2021, 5:20 AM

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waxen cedar

or easier ways to make constantly changing text

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maybe have it loop between 2 different words

west needle Mar 31, 2021, 5:21 AM

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that could be interesting

vale iron Mar 31, 2021, 6:57 AM

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I'd be careful digging into that topic in public. There are certain griefing techniques with it and if the wrong people get ahold of it, HG might block it completely.

waxen cedar Mar 31, 2021, 11:08 AM

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Oh right. I totally forgot about the audio

jolly flume Mar 31, 2021, 11:30 AM

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Is there a mod to turn graphics up to max when in photo mode and then switch back on exit ?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 11:58 AM

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Not anymore!

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spoggers

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:31 PM

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has anyone started looking into files and seeing ways to modify the gamemode?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:33 PM

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no

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you can be the Columbus or whatever if you want

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:33 PM

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by modify, i mean can i get the ship by completing the first mission

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rn someone says they might be able to do that

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so thats good

torn girder Mar 31, 2021, 3:34 PM

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So.... i wonder how they handle cheaters with this new game mode

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:34 PM

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no differently then all other cheaters..?

steel crypt Mar 31, 2021, 3:34 PM

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lol define "cheating" in NMS

torn girder Mar 31, 2021, 3:34 PM

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people that modify their save files to skip doing stuff

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:35 PM

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tropic wind no differently then all other cheaters..?

lmao nice joke

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:35 PM

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there will be no punishment probably

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they dont punish dupers or other file editors

steel crypt Mar 31, 2021, 3:35 PM

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probably because there is not multiplayer competition

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:36 PM

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tropic wind rn someone says they might be able to do that

I mean yeah there're prolly more than one way to get the thing without actually doing any expedition ever

torn girder Mar 31, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Well then we can just save edit all the challenges or just get the rewards directly

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:36 PM

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I've never done a community mission

steel crypt Mar 31, 2021, 3:37 PM

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torn girder Well then we can just save edit all the challenges or just get the rewards direc...

If you want....then reap the reward of having no gameplay challenges

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:37 PM

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yeah it's all intrinsic motivation in nms

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you really just do find your own fun

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Personally, I would likely not use this trick unless there was some gameplay bug preventing me from finishing the quest. I just think it could be useful for various people in various circumstances.

torn girder Mar 31, 2021, 3:39 PM

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People that don't like time limited seasons probably

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:39 PM

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Exactly

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People who have have work for the next 2 months or something

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:40 PM

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think it's gonna end up on the special shop anyway?

torn girder Mar 31, 2021, 3:40 PM

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Atleast the challenges don't seem that grindy.. but still you have to put in some work

torn girder Mar 31, 2021, 3:41 PM

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hearty wasp think it's gonna end up on the special shop anyway?

Then why bother doing the challenges at all if they will end in the QS shop ?

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:41 PM

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hearty wasp think it's gonna end up on the special shop anyway?

Hopefully not

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:41 PM

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torn girder Then why bother doing the challenges at all if they will end in the QS shop ?

why pre-order games?

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same ol same ol

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:50 PM

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Where are the missions stored in the files? Asking for a friend

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:51 PM

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the expeditions specifically?

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:51 PM

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I believe so

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For file editing purposes

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:51 PM

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I mean all missions are in the same folder but I dunno if it's in that same folder too

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try METADATA\SIMULATION\MISSIONS

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community missions were in there too

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don't remember the triggers

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Is that the exact location?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:55 PM

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that's the folder

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Apparently it only has a ui in it

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 3:59 PM

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you mean the folder?

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you sure you extracted everything

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cos last few times I tried I only got half the files

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 4:00 PM

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Again, there is someone else asking me to ask these questions

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So I have no clue

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:03 PM

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you guys spacing on twitter or something? lmao

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just make em get in this server if they so wish to

tropic wind Mar 31, 2021, 4:03 PM

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@covert trail

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:04 PM

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Hi👋

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I'm trying to see if you can skip phases entirely

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:05 PM

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you can't get into the file anyway

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compiler's not updated for a day or two yet

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:06 PM

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I turned the saves into json files and I'm looking at them rn

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I've found the phases

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:06 PM

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that's not an in game file

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that's a save

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but yeah unless you're good at reading in hex you gotta wait a few days

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anyway you got the game unpacked?

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:07 PM

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hearty wasp anyway you got the game unpacked?

Nah

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:07 PM

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then how do you get to the in game files

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AMUMSS?

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actually with AMUMSS you can just find extract certain files

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:08 PM

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I'm saying that I've looked and the save and I've found all of the rewards and stuff , so I'm trying to tinker with it to pass them automatically

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:10 PM

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you can skip quest phases with the stage ID

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but that can cause instability

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or you can just shove the product ID into your knownproducts if you know the ids of the rewards

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assuming that the new cross-save rewards work exactly the same way normal products do'

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which likely isn't

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:12 PM

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hearty wasp you can skip quest phases with the stage ID

How do i do that?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:13 PM

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find the quest ID

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see what stage you're on or have completed

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add or replaced the stage ID with the one found in the in game files

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I don't think many people have tried it tho

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nor have I heard anyone succeeding

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so make sure to document it if you do!

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:16 PM

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How do i unpack the game files?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:18 PM

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easiest way is prolly AMUMSS explorer

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it's on Nexus

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Nexus's link is in pins

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Ok

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Anyways goatfungus will update it later right?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:24 PM

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he may

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he may not

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who knows

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:24 PM

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I hope he does

robust spruce Mar 31, 2021, 4:24 PM

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its purdy

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:25 PM

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Wait

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how

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TELL ME

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:26 PM

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robust spruce its purdy

How the hell did you do it?

robust spruce Mar 31, 2021, 4:26 PM

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lol it's not the actual ship

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I just changed the proc and descriptor to the goldfighter names and that's it

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so as soon as I turn off the mod it will go away but at least shows the ship

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Well fuck

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:27 PM

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robust spruce I just changed the proc and descriptor to the goldfighter names and that's it

well the ship's path is in vanilla so it should work either way even in mp right

robust spruce Mar 31, 2021, 4:28 PM

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hmm I guess so

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only thing is it changes ALL the fighters so

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not like it's part of the seed

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I don't think

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Well , do we have anyone with the skill level of goatfungus?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:29 PM

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robust spruce only thing is it changes ALL the fighters so

oh you're going that path

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thought you're just plonking it in the json

robust spruce Mar 31, 2021, 4:30 PM

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nah I'm going to try that next but I don't like fucking with my save file if I don't have to

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i wanted to look into the geo and the proc file

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:30 PM

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fair

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hope compiler gets updated in a few days and I can consumerize the rewards

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:31 PM

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hearty wasp fair

also i just need to set the quest id to completed right?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:31 PM

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idk

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you can try

fathom turtle Mar 31, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Stupid question, considering I'm semi new when it comes to reshades. Are they the same as normal mods or...

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:31 PM

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wym "normal"

fathom turtle Mar 31, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Do I have to run them in a specific way and unpacking it?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:31 PM

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you need reshade installed, for starters

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 4:31 PM

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hearty wasp hope compiler gets updated in a few days and I can consumerize the rewards

I want to play expeditions without the fucken background thought of not having enough time to get them

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:32 PM

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don't think you'll need to put anything into the mods folder tho

robust spruce Mar 31, 2021, 4:32 PM

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hold on you can do it in the save file I just forget where

fathom turtle Mar 31, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Ah, that's what I was wondering.

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:32 PM

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robust spruce hold on you can do it in the save file I just forget where

yeah it's the ship slots

robust spruce Mar 31, 2021, 4:32 PM

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FIGHTERCLASSICGOLD.SCENE.MBIN

fathom turtle Mar 31, 2021, 4:32 PM

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So by installed... I'm assuming it works as an exe?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:32 PM

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fathom turtle Ah, that's what I was wondering.

reshade it's more of it's own thing

robust spruce Mar 31, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Corvus threw that scene in just waiting confirmation

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:33 PM

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pretty independent of games lol

round sinew Mar 31, 2021, 4:33 PM

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weird, the update didn't recreate DISABLEMODS.txt 😄

fathom turtle Mar 31, 2021, 4:33 PM

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So. If I'm understanding this correctly, once I've downloaded a so said shader mod for this game, it'll have to be... Installed or running?

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Since I don't have to put in the mods section.

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:33 PM

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round sinew weird, the update didn't recreate DISABLEMODS.txt 😄

there's apparently a new mods folder in GAMEDATA now

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:34 PM

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fathom turtle So. If I'm understanding this correctly, once I've downloaded a so said shader m...

I don't remember how reshade works but isn't it a dll inject that starts with the game?

round sinew Mar 31, 2021, 4:34 PM

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not on my end

fathom turtle Mar 31, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Ah, if it's like that then I understand it a bit. Would it perhaps work better with vortex though?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:35 PM

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idk

fathom turtle Mar 31, 2021, 4:35 PM

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For in case I might want to uninstall it later.

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 4:35 PM

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I'm not sure how vortex do with reshade or presets

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you're probably better off going straight to reshade's site

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and see how to install/ uninstall

fathom turtle Mar 31, 2021, 4:35 PM

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SOStalinThumbsUp I'll do so, thanks.

clear ravine Mar 31, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Is any particular mod causing this?

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my list of mods:
Exosolar's Starmap Upgrade
FINE LOD
Space Station Interior Fix
Space Station revamp (requires interior fix)
Bigger Wallet UI
Clean Ship Space Map (radar)
Exosolar's glass fix
Multiple player freighters in a system

All latest versions but none updated since expeditions

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 5:29 PM

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prolly all of them

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but particularly those that fuck with UI or debug (the final one)

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either way you should either yeet all mods or test individually when an update comes out

clear ravine Mar 31, 2021, 5:30 PM

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yeah deleting multiple freighters fixed it

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I know UI's got changed in the update too so take that into consideration when you see more fuckups in the game

clear ravine Mar 31, 2021, 5:31 PM

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but i deleted all mods for now

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 5:31 PM

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but models and textures are mostly safe for now with what we've tested

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so model/texture tweaks/replacers should be fine

robust spruce Mar 31, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Multiple player freighters in a system - that a global debug setting so yeah

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I'd just wait it out bud

cerulean bison Mar 31, 2021, 6:20 PM

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so im using nomnom save editor and it's registering the expedition save as a permadeath save

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gonna test this out

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 6:41 PM

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no

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cos mbincompiler's not updated yet

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don't expect people to be able to update a mod within a week of an update

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that includes each experimental patch

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also anyone should be able to run AMUMSS by themselves pretty easily

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it's prolly gonna come in more and more essential for users as time go on without mod kits

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so it's prolly time to start learning how to click a couple buttons

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Let's hope goatfungus drops an update

robust spruce Mar 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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yup AMUMSS should be the way forward

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moddingstation isn't maintained anymore so

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 7:46 PM

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robust spruce moddingstation isn't maintained anymore so

I mean it doesn't need updating

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you just click em and it works

robust spruce Mar 31, 2021, 7:48 PM

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I mean yeah but AMUMSS is just so much more powerful

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Any good nms editors beside goatfungus?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 8:11 PM

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NomNom

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it's on Nexus

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Is it on github by any chance?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 8:17 PM

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I assume google will tell you

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cos that's what I'd do

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 8:31 PM

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cerulean bison so im using nomnom save editor and it's registering the expedition save as a per...

What happened?

cerulean bison Mar 31, 2021, 8:32 PM

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it said that the expedition was completed but i didn't get any rewards

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fortunately I backed up my save

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 8:34 PM

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cerulean bison it said that the expedition was completed but i didn't get any rewards

Will try out with a new save later

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 8:43 PM

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cerulean bison it said that the expedition was completed but i didn't get any rewards

How did you complete the expedition?

cerulean bison Mar 31, 2021, 8:47 PM

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i didnt

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 8:47 PM

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?

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I have an idea about how to complete them

west needle Mar 31, 2021, 9:01 PM

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yeah, it's saying the expedition is over

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 9:02 PM

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west needle yeah, it's saying the expedition is over

Can you explain how are you doing that?

cerulean bison Mar 31, 2021, 9:06 PM

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why would you want it to do that

west needle Mar 31, 2021, 9:08 PM

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covert trail Can you explain how are you doing that?

no no, i'm not completing the expedition, the game is sometimes telling me that the two months of it have finished and my save gets converted to normal
not sure why it's doing this, but it seems to be a bug

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and it converts me to a normal save, so i have to restart the expedition when it happens

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it's honestly really annoying

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 9:09 PM

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Ah

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 9:10 PM

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hearty wasp I assume google will tell you

How do i use the json editor in nom nom?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 9:13 PM

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idk

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you should be able to navigate a GUI pretty easily on your own

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 9:14 PM

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It literally doesn't let me do it tho

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 10:00 PM

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@vale iron could i dm u some questions?

vale iron Mar 31, 2021, 10:17 PM

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There is no JSON editor in NomNom yet. Yes, you can DM me, but I likely won't have any answers yet if i t's about Expeditions

desert forge Mar 31, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Anyone looked into the new mods folder yet?

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it's just in GAMEDATA now rather than PCBANKS

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it had some subfolders in it

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but idk how to mess with em

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there's a subfolder in the new MODS folder, and if i follow it all the way down i get to this file

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anyone know what this does?

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 10:34 PM

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desert forge anyone know what this does?

no

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if you want more speculations you're more than welcome to join the modding discord

covert trail Mar 31, 2021, 10:35 PM

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I've hit a dead end

desert forge Mar 31, 2021, 10:38 PM

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Kinda sucks they just

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overhauled how mods work

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and didn't tell us shit about it

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 10:39 PM

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the old folder location still work

desert forge Mar 31, 2021, 10:39 PM

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so then i just have to wait for my mods to be updated to Expeditions, then

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 10:39 PM

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yeah

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 10:40 PM

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desert forge overhauled how mods work

also they do this every update

desert forge Mar 31, 2021, 10:40 PM

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really the only two i care about are the Minotaur mobility one and the one that lets your ship hover within an atmosphere

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it makes zero sense that being able to hover within a planetary atmosphere isn't just vanilla at this point

hearty wasp Mar 31, 2021, 10:40 PM

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we essentially remake our mods after each update

desert forge Mar 31, 2021, 10:40 PM

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it would be a massive QOL change that i'd gladly appreciate

proud sail Apr 1, 2021, 12:01 AM

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desert forge really the only two i care about are the Minotaur mobility one and the one that ...

I feel the minotaur movement mod

obsidian tree Apr 1, 2021, 12:01 AM

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I have been having a bit of a look at that file in the mods folder wrt what's in the exe...

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try and see what is goingon

golden dock Apr 1, 2021, 12:23 AM

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my save just says the file names

frigid pecan Apr 1, 2021, 12:24 AM

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Is there a way to use AMUMSS with the gamepass version of the game? When I direct NMSfolder.txt to...
C:\Users(Me)\AppData\Local\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy
It doesn't work

round sinew Apr 1, 2021, 12:27 AM

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AMUMSS requires pak files of the game, afaik

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in case AMUMSS really doesn't support gamepass version, have you seen this pinned post <#nms-modding message>?

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@frigid pecan ^

frigid pecan Apr 1, 2021, 12:35 AM

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Thanks!

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 1:59 AM

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Confirmed Fully Working:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1350

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

DUD's Cloud Erasers (Expeditions Compatible)

Removes High Clouds Layer, the Low Clouds layer, or Both!

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Confirmed Fully Working:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1531

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Exosolar's Industrial FPS Booster (Expeditions Compatible)

This mod DRAMATICALLY improves FPS in mining bases by significantly reducing the geometric detail of Silos and Pipes.

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Confirmed Fully Working:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1324

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Clean Paint for Starships (Expeditions Compatible)

Removes the heavy paint damage and gashes from ships, especially fighters.

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 2:59 AM

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Confirmed Fully Working:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1274

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Exosolar's Glass Fix

Makes glass much more Clear

waxen cedar Apr 1, 2021, 3:33 AM

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did HG just add an "official" mods folder in the game?

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Saw someone on reddit posting about it

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I'll check it when I get on PC later

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 3:40 AM

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No, seems it is unrelated to the traditional mods folder

vale iron Apr 1, 2021, 3:40 AM

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They added a MODS folder, but no idea exactly what it's for and it's different than the old folder

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 3:40 AM

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Also, mods dropped into it dont have an effect, and the old folder still has its effect

waxen cedar Apr 1, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Maybe something is in the works for larger mod support then? Just throwing out ideas

vale iron Apr 1, 2021, 4:06 AM

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There have been a couple of things added that indicate they could be working towards that in the long term

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 4:15 AM

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yeah thats what I figured, it looks like it my be a sort of designated area for data storage that came from mods. Saveables, settings, and the like

obsidian tree Apr 1, 2021, 5:30 AM

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once the game is updated on GOG I'll have a bit more of a poke at that and see if I can figure something out...

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 5:42 AM

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Based on the one file already in there, I would say its probably a destination folder for mods to store data that isn't contained in either the mod itself or the game saves @obsidian tree But thats just my logic-y guess

obsidian tree Apr 1, 2021, 5:55 AM

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the interesting thing is that the file itself is new. As in those classes didn't exist before this version, and also the path in it isn't a valid path

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it does maybe seem that the data written to it is fixed...

covert trail Apr 1, 2021, 9:08 AM

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Will the mbin compiler get updated today?

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 9:25 AM

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Probably not. The changes to be accounted for are much greater than usual.

vale iron Apr 1, 2021, 9:29 AM

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I'm not hoping for anything until Sunday, and even then, probably only partial coverage.

waxen cedar Apr 1, 2021, 9:29 AM

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seanbomination

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 9:32 AM

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Yeah there's always someone flippin his shit and not knowing how every update ever has gone down

round sinew Apr 1, 2021, 9:51 AM

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as if mods were officially supported

vale iron Apr 1, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Hey did you guys know some mods are broken? I just got a message on Nexus...

sinful anvil Apr 1, 2021, 10:06 AM

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I got a hint when my game instantly crashed cuz I forgot to put back the disablemods.txt SadMan

lime mesa Apr 1, 2021, 10:28 AM

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i dont have the disablemods.txt

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can some1 send it

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i deleted it O.

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o

hearty wasp Apr 1, 2021, 11:20 AM

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just

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make one

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it's a txt

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if you can type messages here you can certainly right click > add file >text file

waxen cedar Apr 1, 2021, 11:24 AM

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eee

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seanbomination

hearty wasp Apr 1, 2021, 11:25 AM

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waxen cedar Apr 1, 2021, 11:27 AM

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hearty wasp if you can type messages here you can certainly right click > add file >text fil...

Tutorial of the year. Most contributes to the modding community award

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gekchef

lime mesa Apr 1, 2021, 11:34 AM

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i thought it had content

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in it

sinful anvil Apr 1, 2021, 11:39 AM

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Nah its just a named file

steel crypt Apr 1, 2021, 12:05 PM

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Lol isn’t deep space that shader mod that hasn’t been updated since 2016?

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Maybe that’s dark space or something. I can’t remember.

That dude probably sent rage messages about his game crashing 200 times before realizing all his mods are jacked.

left sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 12:22 PM

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I thought they meant that one mod by exo that makes space almost black

stoic pasture Apr 1, 2021, 3:31 PM

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Clean Analysis Visor updated for Expeditions:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1092

sinful anvil Apr 1, 2021, 3:44 PM

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this looks a lot better on PC haha

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the glyph thing i mean

cinder valley Apr 1, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Imma stop modding if they keep breaking stuff

hearty wasp Apr 1, 2021, 5:43 PM

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you tell me

storm marlin Apr 1, 2021, 6:01 PM

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I just want my portable refiners to exist. 5 of them have disappeared just trying to get the chromatic metal to build a hyperdrive.

hearty wasp Apr 1, 2021, 6:04 PM

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why do they keep disappearing anyway

storm marlin Apr 1, 2021, 6:06 PM

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🤷

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Maybe it's some kind of netcode issue?

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Making the personal refiner tech default should alleviate this issue.

hearty wasp Apr 1, 2021, 6:14 PM

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like you put em in your base and they go away after a load

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or do you just spin around and they go away

storm marlin Apr 1, 2021, 6:15 PM

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They literally just poof while they're refining stuff, while I have the menu open.

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No other players around.

hearty wasp Apr 1, 2021, 6:15 PM

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lmao

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power related maybe?

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only thing I know about it is it's a planetery object

storm marlin Apr 1, 2021, 6:17 PM

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No, and I am not laughing. I am literally softlocked until it stops happening.

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Guess I'll just have to wait for mbincompiler and amumss to update so I can fix and use my scripts.

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Honestly, this gamemode just screams 'did not test beforehand'.

cerulean bison Apr 1, 2021, 6:21 PM

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save every time before you use a portable refiner

odd stag Apr 1, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Is it somehow possible to play the new game mode while being offline? Any mods, tipps or things i can do?

desert forge Apr 1, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Hover mod is now updated for Expeditions: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1161?tab=files&file_id=11712

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Hover

Allows ships to hover on planets.

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Thank god

mellow hornet Apr 1, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Is there a mod that fixes the issue where your mouse sensitivity is severely lowered whenever you run?

desert forge Apr 1, 2021, 7:31 PM

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I'm not sure, I don't use many mods

little dock Apr 1, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Does anybody have a working camera shake disabled mod? Can't play without it sadly

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 7:54 PM

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@steel crypt I think Lo2k's more recent mod was named Deep Space also, because he wants to sow chaos and confusion

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Hey @vale iron i BET THE EXPEDITION OVER BUG COULD BE REVERSED WITH A VERSION NUMBER SAVE EDIT

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yikes thems caps, sry

hearty wasp Apr 1, 2021, 7:59 PM

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btw the update didn't break model replacers so this monstrosity still work
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1011

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Beautiful Sentinels - Thomas and Friends Go on a Rampage

Sentinels and Minotaur to Thomas and Friends

pale niche Apr 1, 2021, 8:06 PM

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NMS save editor doesnt work on the expiditions?

waxen cedar Apr 1, 2021, 9:50 PM

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is it just me or are there suddenly less colors in the galactic map?

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or are the colors overall toned down there

torn girder Apr 1, 2021, 9:53 PM

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waxen cedar is it just me or are there suddenly less colors in the galactic map?

check if colour blind mode is on

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maybe it has something to do with that

waxen cedar Apr 1, 2021, 9:54 PM

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it's off

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double checked and scrolled through all of them

torn girder Apr 1, 2021, 9:54 PM

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if not... this would be yet another weird change by HG to remove colors

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have they not learned from NEXT ?

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why do they keep removing stuff from the game ? 😦

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sigh

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 9:56 PM

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well when it comes to the galactic map, probably because overpowered nebulae wash out the star colors and players cant tell what star tyope they are targetting

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ofc, seems like adding a line to the info panel would have been smarter and easier on all counts

torn girder Apr 1, 2021, 9:56 PM

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jesus HG 🤦‍♂️

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or they could have made the contrast of the star color better

hushed bronze Apr 1, 2021, 9:57 PM

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Thats what they tried and you hate

odd stag Apr 1, 2021, 10:02 PM

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waxen cedar is it just me or are there suddenly less colors in the galactic map?

thought the same thing when i played today

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Confirmed Abyss is still 100%
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1326

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Exosolar's Abyss (Expeditions Compatible)

Confirmed 100% working in version 3.30 with a full 1,000 ocean colors! forget about the measly 4 possibilites offered by vanilla NMS! Find the sea of your dreams!

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 2:19 AM

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My other mods which work with Expeditions include:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1531
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1500
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1350
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1324
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1274

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Exosolar's Industrial FPS Booster (Expeditions Compatible)

This mod DRAMATICALLY improves FPS in mining bases by significantly reducing the geometric detail of Silos and Pipes.

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Exosolar's Flora Colors (Expeditions Compatible)

This mod edits the Flora colors. Currently, this means Grass, Tree leaves, and Shrubs of the Lush planet type.

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

DUD's Cloud Erasers (Expeditions Compatible)

Removes High Clouds Layer, the Low Clouds layer, or Both!

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Clean Paint for Starships (Expeditions Compatible)

Removes the heavy paint damage and gashes from ships, especially fighters.

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Exosolar's Glass Fix (Expeditions Compatible)

Makes glass much more Clear

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:33 AM

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Technically all the mats should be recompiled for your glass fix exo

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Sure they work but once mbin updated I recommend doing a recompile for safe keeping

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Sure, but for NOW, people can use the six mods that survived intact and working, regardless

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Also, a freindly helper just recompiled the glass mod a week or two ago

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:49 AM

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I can help too if you need a hand once this are updated

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I have a script that will hunt and recompile all the shits

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Nobody likes shits lol

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Your glass mod is like a requirement for me haha

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Well its done pretty simply, maybe you could RE the bastard and do it better 😄

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:51 AM

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No need to bud

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It's great how it is

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:52 AM

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Its certainly better than hard blue tint

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:52 AM

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Because that's how glass works right?

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:52 AM

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Seriously wtf is up with HG's obsession with inappropriate uses of navy blue

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:52 AM

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Lol

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:52 AM

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that color shows up EVERYWHERE and its wrong nearly every time

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Mind control

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:53 AM

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spooky sounds

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:53 AM

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I love how we are all now hex editing because of how impatient we are haha

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:54 AM

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I don't. Im not quite that impatient XD

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only hexing ive ever done is to make tweaks to a few legacy NMS exes for save file security

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evben that I had a handholding guide

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:54 AM

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Only the base building table am I hacking together of course

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:55 AM

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you helping with that big snaps project?

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:55 AM

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Aw helll naw

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:55 AM

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or euclidea

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:55 AM

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No I've rebuilt that enough, winder is back

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He gets the pain again

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:56 AM

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The lunatic who makes demon trains, yes I know the fellow you mean

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:56 AM

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I never want to go through a Eucli-ea rebuild ever again

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Although his pro pisser mod is ace

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Didnt he also make hobo town

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Yup

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Yeah I peed on someone in the nexus and crashed it. Sorry whoever that was, nothing personal

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It didn't crash, just separated me in my own instance

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Everyone else was fine, still funny though

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But the sad thing is Ships of Moar that I was 95% done fixing for him is wrecked

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Officially titled Shits of Moar now

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:01 AM

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well maybe there will be a minor edit you can script across all files with relative ease

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:02 AM

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HG flipped the metallic mask in the textures sadly

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:02 AM

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IDK how ships go but thats what happens when glass fix breaks. Its just one line got added to all materials or something, and so that line needs to be added to all the modded mats to fit the new version. Tedious but simple fix

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Instead of alpha channel of diffuse its using red channel of the mask

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:02 AM

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@robust spruce That actually does sound like something you could correct with a bit of logic smarts

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:02 AM

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So all his textures need redone

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:03 AM

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oh the images were changed?

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Yeah

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Yeah my script does what you mentioned but sadly that doesn't help actual images

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Like the .DDS files, not the materials files?

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Yep

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:03 AM

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lame

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Red channel is now metalness

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It used to be AO but I guess that all got redone

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:04 AM

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is the metalness now the red?

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Yup

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:04 AM

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why would they do this

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Its not something that could be swapped with materials parameters

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Probably to streamline it

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It makes more sense that way but just a pain to fix for any custom textures

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:05 AM

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they should use industry standard texture techniques

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:05 AM

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Right you have to edit the channel manually in a photo editor

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:05 AM

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that way WHY would they not do this!?

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:05 AM

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Basically exporting the diffuse alpha and replacing the red channel with it lol

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It's the way she goes

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:07 AM

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yeah HG does whackjob things with their graphics nonstop. Its why even though my preference is for modelling and texturing, I saw some of the discussion around that mess in NMS in 2018 and was like "nah, fuck that noise"

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:07 AM

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Yeah Winder found this out today that they flipped all that shit. Oh well

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It's funny I was trying to learn how to model initially based on NMS not based on traditional PBR techniques, big mistake lol

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:08 AM

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pbr?

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But yeah, NMS does lunatic nonsense to all their assets. Who tf knows why, it seems to be essentially optional, like they just as easily could have used rational normal alternatives

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:09 AM

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Physically based rendering

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Actually getting things to look good in Blender

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:10 AM

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well if your mnodelling is FOR NMS, you may as well learn it in that context right?

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:10 AM

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It's why it's so difficult to translate in Blender what your shit will look like in game

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I use Model Viewer to try and verify if I can

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Yup

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Blender Guru videos on repeat haha

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:11 AM

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i couldnt even get those plugins to work. They just crash or do nothing

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:11 AM

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I've made that anvil twice now lol

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 4:11 AM

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I managed to get the vierwer running tho

robust spruce Apr 2, 2021, 4:12 AM

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The viewer is a God send

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Too bad Greg is unavailable for some time but it should be self sustainable with the libmbin update feature

vale iron Apr 2, 2021, 6:00 AM

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I had been trying to learn how to use masks for the past month and couldn't figure out why it never came out right. Figured I was just doing it wrong

cerulean bison Apr 2, 2021, 6:12 AM

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some good news - if anyone is looking for a trainer for the new version of nms, it's #2 on the queue for wemod so it'll get updated very soon

hearty wasp Apr 2, 2021, 8:08 AM

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hushed bronze Seriously wtf is up with HG's obsession with inappropriate uses of navy blue

the Queen

echo oxide Apr 2, 2021, 8:09 AM

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bit cringe innit

hearty wasp Apr 2, 2021, 8:12 AM

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oi mait you hav 'n loiscence for cringing?

frigid pecan Apr 2, 2021, 1:09 PM

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I'm trying to use this method for using AMUMSS for gamepass version https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/h9z1bd/how_to_mod_xbox_game_pass_nms/

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But I can't copy the dump to a new folder

hearty wasp Apr 2, 2021, 1:13 PM

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gamepass may have been updated to stop outside access

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at least I heard UWP did but the two are obviously different things so take this with a grain of salt

frigid pecan Apr 2, 2021, 1:15 PM

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Ah nvm I just need to copy the files individually and just recreate the folders

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For some reason I can't move entire folders there

hearty wasp Apr 2, 2021, 1:20 PM

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prolly permission related?

frigid pecan Apr 2, 2021, 1:28 PM

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I guess so because i got this when I launched it

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Any save editors applicable to expeditions?

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The one I have doesnt recon the save file so I imagine we shall wait for an update.

crude marsh Apr 2, 2021, 6:43 PM

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The GoatFungus one works

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 7:07 PM

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@frigid pecan You're gonna wanna wait a week or so before tryna mod NMS

frigid pecan Apr 2, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Oh yeahhh

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I forget updates break stuff

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Ffs

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 7:07 PM

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yeah, everything, including the tools lol

frigid pecan Apr 2, 2021, 7:07 PM

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And I was all exited too :(

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 7:08 PM

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u can be excited, just shelf it till like... next Friday XD

frigid pecan Apr 2, 2021, 7:08 PM

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I even spelt excited wrong

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That's how excited I was

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 7:09 PM

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WOAH dont get THAT excited, now, even in ideal times there's a lot the modders can't do

hearty wasp Apr 2, 2021, 7:28 PM

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krem got so excited at one point

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he exited the modding community

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okglove

slate veldt Apr 2, 2021, 8:12 PM

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@fallow meadow I want to outfit my character with Apollo stuff just for photo shoots.
Show me the ways, o' mighty one

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:13 PM

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@slate veldt Should be able to alter your player to be (partial) NPC through save editing. Modding likely has more options.
I changed my crew on Freighter as well, just by pointing to the NPC model (scene)

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Hang on, having a more specific look

slate veldt Apr 2, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Ok, so for main npcs, id need to find a "scene" that theyre referenced?

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Oh ok, ill check back

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:17 PM

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Well, with the player to have changes, you'd have to use the Customisation data in the save. This requires specific parts, but here and there can also accept NPC parts

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So lets say you'd want the Apollo head. You'd have to change your player head, while at the same time seeing if it accepts the body,neck, etc to have that head on top.

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Not everything can be easily done, like the cape I did for example. You'd have to understand the structure, which becomes most clear when checking the models in the files. Also of course understand the Customisation data in the save file if thats where edits are going to be made

slate veldt Apr 2, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Ah ok, ill poke around in a save file later and have a look. Will I need to unpack the game files to know the models or can those be assumed by their naming?

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:24 PM

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Here is where I simply changed the NPC on my freighter, which can be any NPC basically, but then they all turn into that NPC

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Nada here, and interaction still works

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Player character is a bit harder to do, and I may have to wait until the MBIN compiler has been updated

slate veldt Apr 2, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Ah ok, good to know. Ill keep an eye out for the update

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:28 PM

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For freighter NPC, it is in CurrentFreighterNPC:

{
    "Filename":"MODELS/COMMON/PLAYER/PLAYERCHARACTER/NPCNADA.SCENE.MBIN",
    "Seed":[
        false,
        "0x0"
    ],
    "AltId":"",
    "ProceduralTexture":{
        "Samplers":[]
    }
}

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Just a reference to the scene file for an NPC

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For player, you'd be looking for CharacterCustomisationData, which has Descriptor groups and a lot more to figure out

hearty wasp Apr 2, 2021, 8:31 PM

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the customisation ID simply need to exist to be used by any player character race or body

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case in point Getting Head

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but I think Apollo "stuff" are Apollo only except for the head?

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Ah yes, you have been doing a lot of that lately. Sorry I totally forgot about that, or I would have mentioned your work

hearty wasp Apr 2, 2021, 8:33 PM

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like an entirely different geo

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so prolly you'd need to reference a modified apollo scene in the character model

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or sth idk

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:34 PM

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If you check back up, you agree that what @slate veldt wants is possible, right?

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It may indeed require modding

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I believe I came to that same conclusion when I tried to add the Nada Cape.

hearty wasp Apr 2, 2021, 8:35 PM

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I haven't fucked with the player character model for quite some time but with scenes it's p easy to reference something else

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for it to move is another question entirely

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and also be seen by others

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Ahuh, the NPCs have animations of their own. Sometimes it works, other times not so much

slate veldt Apr 2, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Ahhh, yeah that makes sense that it would be pretty limited then

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:37 PM

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The NPCs share a lot of the basic animations though, like sitting, standing up, etc.

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I never bothered to re-animate the cape and make it properly attached to the shoulders.

slate veldt Apr 2, 2021, 8:38 PM

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Yeah, Apollo maybe doesnt have enough to reference from...idk what im talking about here, kind of out of my element 😄 😄

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I think I had initially assumed the models had the same rigging as a player model, but again, thats just my assumption of how it worked. No idea if that was actually the case

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Well, I am not quite out of my element, but I don't really publish mods

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Rigging is actually quite similar. There is a reason all NPCs are in the same scene overlapping each other

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So it is very well possible to exchange a lot between them

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Including the player.

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If I can find some time and once modding is possible again, I might be able to have a look. Just poke me once in a while to remind me @slate veldt

slate veldt Apr 2, 2021, 8:44 PM

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fallow meadow If I can find some time and once modding is possible again, I might be able to h...

For sure, i appreciate your interest in helping with it

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 8:47 PM

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crude marsh The GoatFungus one works

Where can I get it?

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:49 PM

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https://github.com/goatfungus/NMSSaveEditor
However, for as far as I know, saves made with the Expeditions game mode are not recognised.
https://github.com/cengelha/NomNom
This would be another option, which may work for Expeditions, depending on what you want to edit

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 8:50 PM

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Thanks am looking for the one that works with expeditions

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No way I am grinding.

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:50 PM

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Make sure to backup first, just in case @lime mesa

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Do I need java as the goat fungus one for NomNom's?

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I already have that one installed and such

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Yes, for NMSSE (goatfungus), Java RE 8 is required (64-bit)

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Right I remeber all that was a hit of a hassle lol

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nomnom works without java re 8?

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Yes, no Java required for NomNom, but you do need .NET Framework 4.8

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Is it all available through the github link?

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:53 PM

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All info is on GitHub though

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Right exactly

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Yes, click the green Code/Download button at the top, get the .zip and extract/run where you want

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Got winrar shouldn't be a problem

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Thanks👍

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 8:54 PM

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You're welcome

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 8:54 PM

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+rep @fallow meadow

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 9:05 PM

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Now I'm curious, @vale iron did you really find a hardcoded base number limiter?

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 9:19 PM

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I do recall having seen values for amount of bases, but not for those you build yourself. I am curious as well though and may even put it to the test if I can find some time

hushed bronze Apr 2, 2021, 9:40 PM

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@fallow meadow Well if gumsk found a number in a file, we shouldn't need to test much

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 9:41 PM

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True true @hushed bronze , so I will wait until we find out

edgy ivy Apr 2, 2021, 9:50 PM

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hearty wasp case in point Getting Head

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

crude marsh Apr 2, 2021, 10:01 PM

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fallow meadow <https://github.com/goatfungus/NMSSaveEditor> However, for as far as I know, sav...

Ye the Expedition save isn't recognized, but the normal save I had before that one still can get edited.

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 10:02 PM

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Does one work for expeditions?

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 10:02 PM

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crude marsh Ye the Expedition save isn't recognized, but the normal save I had before that o...

Yes, thanks for confirming. Possibly some new gibberish named variables, but everything pre-update should be golden

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@lime mesa The reason it doesn't work is due to the Expeditions game mode value not being properly recognised with NMSSE. From what I heard this does however work with NomNom which is still a work in progress

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Depending on what you wish to edit, your mileage may vary

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@lime mesa If you insist on using NMSSE (goatfungus), You could possibly try to hex edit the game mode value to the value for 'normal mode', then open in the save editor, make your changes, save again, then hex edit the value back to what it was initially. I can't confirm this working, as I have not tested it. Backups for sure!

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The value would be near the start by the way

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Using nom nom though

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Creative I give you that

fallow meadow Apr 2, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Where there is a will, there usually is a way ;-)

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Hah thats right! 🤣

lime mesa Apr 2, 2021, 10:32 PM

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So far so good @fallow meadow

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Odd, it closed the expedition for me

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Theres a security measure

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 1:29 AM

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hushed bronze Now I'm curious, <@!630209160860008468> did you really find a hardcoded base num...

@fallow meadow It wasn't a coded number, just that the game wouldn't let you claim a new base if the save file already had 400 bases in it.

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 1:30 AM

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lime mesa Odd, it closed the expedition for me

I figured that would be the case

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There are definitely some server side checks happening. Just need experimentation to see what is possible without triggering that, if anything. What did you edit?

robust spruce Apr 3, 2021, 1:46 AM

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Mods do work on Expedition mode though, so that's cool

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I'm doing legit on PS5, it's a grind. I'm spoiled

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 1:53 AM

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Yeah I'm doing legit and the most tempted I've been to get one working is hotspot scanner range

robust spruce Apr 3, 2021, 1:53 AM

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If 400 bases isn't enough per save then you must have a messy bedroom lol

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Yeah the dumb explorers guild and fleet timers are killing me

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Amen. My main save only has like 20

robust spruce Apr 3, 2021, 1:54 AM

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I'm tempted to time skip but don't want to risk the 10 hours I have invested

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Haven't even looked at the explorer's guild one

robust spruce Apr 3, 2021, 1:55 AM

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It's just dumb tedious crap

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 1:55 AM

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I saw someone else said they did it safely, but no sense risking it

robust spruce Apr 3, 2021, 1:55 AM

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"Kill 15 things" back and forth back and forth

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Yay

robust spruce Apr 3, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Ugh these fleet timers will end up taking 2 days haha

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I means it's sort of nostalgic to do though

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 1:55 AM

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3 right? Isn't there a cap per day?

robust spruce Apr 3, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Oh yeah I think so

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I never do them normally so

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 1:56 AM

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5 I think

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Me neither

lime mesa Apr 3, 2021, 2:18 AM

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vale iron There are definitely some server side checks happening. Just need experimentatio...

Money

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 2:21 AM

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Ahh, NomNom might be writing something back incorrectly, too, since it's not made to handle Expeditions.

lime mesa Apr 3, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Yeah

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Its fine

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It actually read it as perma death

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Yeah I think it's writing the game version back as that

solemn turret Apr 3, 2021, 2:34 AM

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are there any working mods for unlimited hyperdrive anymore?

robust spruce Apr 3, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Probably not sadly unless you hex edit

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Most of those tables need recompiled

lime mesa Apr 3, 2021, 2:49 AM

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How do you hex edit

zenith rain Apr 3, 2021, 2:54 AM

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the new version of the no man's sky save editor destroyed like more than half my exosuit tech suits, and i can't seem to get any of those slots back using conventional means in the editor. what now?

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 3:02 AM

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What new version? It hasn't been updated yet I thought

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And how many tech slots did you have before versus now?

zenith rain Apr 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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well, i didn't update it in awhile so i guess no for me. Previously, i had all slots (but not all used) and now i only have 14

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 3:08 AM

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14 is the max in vanilla. I believe there's an option for Test Mode or Advanced, something like that in the menus, that will let you go beyond the vanilla limit. I'm not sure if it will be able to write effectively to the Expeditions update, though.

zenith rain Apr 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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also lmao it deleted my life support

vale iron Apr 3, 2021, 3:14 AM

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I'd restore a backup from before you saved changes, find the test mode, turn that on, and it might be ok

pale niche Apr 3, 2021, 4:24 AM

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any working trainers available?

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 9:21 AM

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We don't really talk about trainers often here but check WeMod / cheat engine sites

lime mesa Apr 3, 2021, 10:48 AM

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@pale niche Check out MPGH or CheatEngineRevolution

mild elm Apr 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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my explorer's guild is maxed I think

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 2:33 PM

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ok

lime mesa Apr 3, 2021, 5:46 PM

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hearty wasp We don't really talk about trainers often here but check WeMod / cheat engine si...

Wemod has nms in queue almost 1

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 5:47 PM

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I don't really care about that

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you can reply to the guy asking to let em know instead lol

lime mesa Apr 3, 2021, 5:50 PM

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hearty wasp you can reply to the guy asking to let em know instead lol

Alright

vocal flower Apr 3, 2021, 6:53 PM

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I have no clue about how you guys mod nms (big thanks to everyone doing so!! 🙂 ), could anybody already get behind how to mod inventory stack size & no starting fuel costs for Expeditions?

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 6:55 PM

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it's simple

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we don't mod

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because mbincompiler's not been updated yet

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gonna be a while

vocal flower Apr 3, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Got it, thanks! 🙂

marsh eagle Apr 3, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Modding is on hold. Possibly longer than usually after updates.

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 7:25 PM

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this one's gon be extra long too

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shame

edgy ivy Apr 3, 2021, 8:31 PM

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vocal flower I have no clue about how you guys mod nms (big thanks to everyone doing so!! 🙂 ...

Even if I could mod, I would feel more encouraged to mod for games that support modding better (Minecraft w/ Forge Modloader, Kerbal Space Program, etc.) than NMS.

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 8:41 PM

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even minecraft got fucked by big updates a few times

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 8:45 PM

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also, MC mods can be challenging too, especially back in the day

waxen cedar Apr 3, 2021, 8:45 PM

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tbh this is the first time ever I'm having mixed feelings about modding the game. Could be due to the entire new online model of expeditions and twitch drops etc. They kinda lose their meaning

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 8:45 PM

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?

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Diverse sky colors doesnt care if you got a twitch drop XD

waxen cedar Apr 3, 2021, 8:46 PM

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ofc not that type of mods

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I enjoy all visual mods and other fixes and tweaks

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 8:47 PM

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i honestly cant think of a mod that suffers from either expeditions or twitch drops

waxen cedar Apr 3, 2021, 8:47 PM

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what slightly worries me is the way how for example the golden ship is designed to be a unique design rewarded to those who actually dedicate time and effort to the season but then just about anyone on PC can get it with a few clicks

steel crypt Apr 3, 2021, 8:48 PM

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HELLO GAMES: GUID ✊ GUID ✊ GUID ✊ GUID ✊

waxen cedar Apr 3, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Don't get me wrong. I'm overall supportive about modding and have tried some experiments myself

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Yes I second this HG put GUIDs back in the exe

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 8:49 PM

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waxen cedar tbh this is the first time ever I'm having mixed feelings about modding the game...

don't be, we've explored weapons of mass destruction in this game years ago and no one bothered to use it

waxen cedar Apr 3, 2021, 8:49 PM

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Hmm?

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 8:49 PM

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so many purist in this community the effect'd be more negligible than it would even seem to be

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 8:50 PM

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Are you referring to how easy it would be to make evil god mode mods to be a dick in MP?\

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 8:50 PM

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that's just one way that greifers don't abuse

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spoggers

waxen cedar Apr 3, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Or the thing where you stack dozens of same type of weapon to a ship and turn it into a death star ray

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 8:52 PM

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that's rookie shit

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 8:52 PM

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or the thing where you can set the damage multipliers in percent form

waxen cedar Apr 3, 2021, 8:53 PM

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How much is the cut in pvp damage? It must be over 50%

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also it's weird how it applies to any player triggered enemy as well

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 8:53 PM

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it wouldnt matter, that cut is in the same table i could set it to +10000%

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 8:54 PM

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but yeah people who'd save edit already have been doing for years

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and people who'd use a mod to get free quicksilver shit are already on it for years too

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truth is nobody gives much of a shit ever except when you brag it to a purist

sturdy shell Apr 3, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Do most mods work in VR?

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 8:57 PM

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more mods work in vr argurably

sturdy shell Apr 3, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Alr then.

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Thanks.

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Oh also,

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 8:57 PM

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since mjjstral figured out how to use hand gestures to call up actions

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and you can't do hand gestures in non-VR

sturdy shell Apr 3, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Do I put the PAK files in the mods folder or do I go into the other folders?

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 8:58 PM

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the former

sturdy shell Apr 3, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Inside the mods folder*

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Do I put the PAK files in the mods folder or do I go into the other folders that are in the mods folder?

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Thats the question

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 8:58 PM

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there are more folders in the mods folder?

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do you mean the one in gamedata

sturdy shell Apr 3, 2021, 8:59 PM

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"EXPORTED" Folder

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 8:59 PM

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@sturdy shell THAT mod folder is new, doesn't load mods, and we dont really know yet what its for or why its there

sturdy shell Apr 3, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Alr.

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So just the mods folder.

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Thats it.

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 9:00 PM

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we mean that by "don't use that one"

sturdy shell Apr 3, 2021, 9:00 PM

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alr

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 9:00 PM

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the one in PCBANKS that doesnt have other nested folders in it, yes\

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 9:00 PM

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^

edgy ivy Apr 3, 2021, 9:01 PM

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hearty wasp even minecraft got fucked by big updates a few times

Minecraft isn't stingy about letting you revert to legacy versions. It's ridiculously easy to play old versions - you just select an older version, seledt another directory if you don't want your saves and files all being bunged up in one directory, and you're set to play old mods. Many MC mods are still maintained in versions that can be several years old by now. NMS, however, if a mod between PF and Companions stops working, then the dev is fucked if they can't keep catching up to NMS.

waxen cedar Apr 3, 2021, 9:02 PM

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hushed bronze Yes I second this HG put GUIDs back in the exe

what would they use it for?

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 9:02 PM

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tru tru, but MC's in Java and that inheritedly gives more flexibility

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 9:02 PM

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For making the lives of the people who make our compilers 100x easier

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 9:03 PM

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we, on the other hand, are modding in xml

edgy ivy Apr 3, 2021, 9:03 PM

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hearty wasp we, on the other hand, are modding in xml

It'd still be helpful if NMS made it easier to run on old versions, and without Steam interfering.

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 9:03 PM

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yeah but that's really a steam problem

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at least you can still get GoG versions pretty easily

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that's where I got my 3.22 from

edgy ivy Apr 3, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Just a shame NMS is just generally hard to put up with, especially with modding.

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 9:04 PM

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oh lol i kept my 3.22 folder

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 9:05 PM

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edgy ivy Just a shame NMS is just generally hard to put up with, especially with modding.

yeah I'm with ya bud

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 9:06 PM

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hushed bronze oh lol i kept my 3.22 folder

I main the steam version and that got updated automatically

marsh eagle Apr 3, 2021, 9:16 PM

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You can downgrade to any version with steam console. Just few people know

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You can also keep multiple game folders

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 9:18 PM

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steam console stopped working some time ago\

marsh eagle Apr 3, 2021, 9:18 PM

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With a batch scrip you can overwrite the environment variable for the save path to have the saves sit in the respective game version local folder

marsh eagle Apr 3, 2021, 9:18 PM

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hushed bronze steam console stopped working some time ago\

😱

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Ray says depotdownloader still works but I have not verified that and even if it does, its a much trickier thing to use

edgy ivy Apr 3, 2021, 9:21 PM

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marsh eagle You can downgrade to any version with steam console. Just few people know

Bit difficult when the console isn't working

marsh eagle Apr 3, 2021, 9:21 PM

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They should allow any version in the beta options list

hushed bronze Apr 3, 2021, 9:21 PM

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they should,

marsh eagle Apr 3, 2021, 9:22 PM

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I keep every major version as gog backup. Still have 1.02 or 1.77 😄

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I wonder if a 1.02 savefile still loads

sturdy shell Apr 3, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Do I have to extract mods as a folder or just the .pak file?

odd crater Apr 3, 2021, 9:57 PM

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Put the .pak files directly in your MODS folder.

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If you haven't created yet, it must be located in your PCBANKS folder.

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Also don't forget to delete "disablemods.txt"

sturdy shell Apr 3, 2021, 10:00 PM

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what directory do I go to?

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Alr then.

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I create a folder called MODS in the PCBANKS folder?

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Is that correct?

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@odd crater

lime mesa Apr 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Rip mods

sturdy shell Apr 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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What?

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wdym

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And now I have an infinite waiting screen.

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.....

lime mesa Apr 3, 2021, 10:20 PM

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I want mods to be online

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Wemod especially so I can speedrun the expeditions

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 11:47 PM

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sturdy shell I create a folder called MODS in the PCBANKS folder?

yes

hearty wasp Apr 3, 2021, 11:49 PM

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lime mesa I want mods to be online

unless they created a special exception for the mode mods should have no impact on mp barring a few network replicated components

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which tech altering is not a part of

frigid pecan Apr 4, 2021, 12:18 AM

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I know everybody is having problems with mods breaking with the new update but is anybody else not having their mods detected by the game at all??

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 1:23 AM

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Am I right in my understanding that seeds in the game are processed through an algorithm in the games code that determines the model of the ship/multitool etc. Assuming this is correct would it be possible to figure out the algorithm and create a website or tool or something that allows you to mix and match different ship parts and and stuff and then give you that models code which you can upload through a save editor?

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If so, how in the world has no one done this?

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:10 AM

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@mellow hornet Seed algorithms are not so easily cracked

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Me want mod with dragons

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Wdym, can't you just open up the games code?

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Make it now

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And unicorns

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:11 AM

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@tropic wind Best we can do is THomas the Train

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Omg why are you not responding you are all so mean I'm going to report you

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You are scammers

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Goodbye

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:11 AM

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😢

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:11 AM

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@hushed bronze Can't you just open up the games code and find the line that has the algorithm\

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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nope

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Why not

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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mellow hornet <@!291002647744479232> Can't you just open up the games code and find the line t...

And then add dragons

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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If its encrypted just decrypt it

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Please tell me your being sarcastic btw

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Ask the code geniuses that tried and failed, idk

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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No?

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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You... Just told them to find the line with the algortihm

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I'm know nothing about closing but I'm losing braincells

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Listen mate, I dont know how to code ok

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xd

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I mean ik python

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Well I'll tell you this much - Decoding an encrypted algorithm is probably one of the hardest things imaginable. thats why it hasn't happened

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Whys it so hard? Im curious and id like to know more

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:14 AM

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I know literally nothing about coding but ik you can't just fucking open a games code, find a singular line with the entire algorithm, then receipt it and change it

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Encryption is itself born of an algorithm

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Decrypt*

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:14 AM

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its like trying to read layered ciphers without a key or a reference

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:15 AM

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Well I mean i did that exact thing with a minecraft mod with no coding experience

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:15 AM

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With a tutorial?

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:15 AM

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I just downloaded eclipse and opened the jar file

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it was a while ago i cant remember the specifics

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:15 AM

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Minecraft is different from nms

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:15 AM

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@mellow hornet Ever opened up a file in games you thought would just be text and it was just a wall of nonsense characters, mostly the boxes that represent "invalid character"?

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Its like that. Thats an encrypted file

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Ye, that means your not opening it with the right program right?

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:16 AM

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...

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Sometimes. Can also mean its an encryption and you have no hope of reading it ever

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:17 AM

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Well I mean if all computer files are just lines of 1s and 0s at their core, couldnt you just use a program to read it as text

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:18 AM

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I'm sure exosolar can correct me if I'm wrong, but there is not 1 line with the algortihm. It would be 10s of lines longs.

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:18 AM

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mellow hornet Well I mean if all computer files are just lines of 1s and 0s at their core, cou...

But the 1s and 0s would come out to the encryption

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:18 AM

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In any case I promise you that plenty of willing and capable programmers have tackled NMS, specifically trying to reverse engineer the seed algorithm and generation process in NMS and none have succeeded or even made meaningful progress

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:18 AM

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yea ik obviously i was just saying that for short

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:18 AM

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(I think)

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Well I want to get a PHD in computer sciences when i go to college so then ill be able to crack it

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:19 AM

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The algorithm could technically be on one line but its unlikely. But even if it were, it doesnt help you if you can't read it through the encryption

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:19 AM

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I also plan on getting a masters in mechanical engineering

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:19 AM

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That's a brutal two headed dragon of a goal you got there. Best of luck

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Ok but why doesnt the devs just release it so that people with the know how can create the kind of site i was talking about

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It would be a nice thing to do for the community

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Because the Devs dont want the players unravelling the point of their game and violating it against its will

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 2:20 AM

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The best that's been accomplished is a fascinating yet not very useful and very blurry version of the reverse of what you want. A guy setup a neural net to process pictures and seeds to be able to predict what a ship would look like based on the seed value.

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Well thats mean of them :/

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:21 AM

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If they did that, than other games could easily blatantly steal their code/algortihms

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 2:21 AM

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that too

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In short, that system is their secret sauce. It would be foolish to give that away

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:23 AM

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This is why i want the highest level of computer science education possible, so i can hack in and be a cyber vigilante, doing good work for the internet outside the law. Stuff like giving away the code so people can create better mods, or hacking the government and releasing incriminating documents about unethical projects

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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You want to be Jester

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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That sounds familiar

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Isnt he a hacker?

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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And even then, it would be take incredible knowledge to be able to correctly change the code to give you what ship you want. At that point you might as well just look on nmsce

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Probably not a good idea to be telling everyone in the world what you want to do in the future if that future involves anonymity

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Well, I think we will all have forgotten in a few months

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:25 AM

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^

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:25 AM

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or will we

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:25 AM

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No one takes me seriously, neither will you

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Yes, Jester is a hacker. Check counter.social if you want to follow him

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:26 AM

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Call me unrealistic if you want, but I want to be a force for good in the world. Also ive watched Arrow over 15 times and Im a huge felicity smoak fan

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:26 AM

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One thing:

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You have to give me 50% of your earnings because I inspired you to good through my perfect manners, grammar, and knowledge. With this inspiration you so become the goodest person ever.

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@mellow hornet

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🙂

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 2:29 AM

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How very Corporate Aristotelean of you

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Lol what earning. Illegal hackers dont make a lot of money, especially if their actively hacking the Pentagon

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Also, people like you are EXACTLY the kind of people id go after

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Most of those people have jobs to do that for China, NK, or Russia

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:29 AM

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@fbi

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@govermentpeople

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:30 AM

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The one thing i hate more than anything else, are corporate cunts

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:30 AM

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@otherimportantpeople

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 2:30 AM

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I'd say we're way off topic now, but it's not like we have anything else to talk about right now

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:31 AM

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vale iron I'd say we're way off topic now, but it's not like we have anything else to talk...

We could talk about pets

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Ironically my backup plan involves being the CEO of a tech company where I produce cheap, affordable revolutionary tech that anyone can afford. I heard somewhere that phones and computers are designed to become outdated after a few years, and that companies like samsung and apple and stuff already have the means to create phones that would last a month on a single charge. Well im just gonna create a phone that uses the best technology available and to hell with any 'extra profit'

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I mean, once you've got a billion dollars why do you need more money? You'd already be able to buy anything youd ever want so why not donate everything else to charity?

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:34 AM

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I hope you don't take offense at this, but this sounds like a 9 year olds dream

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And ngl, it sounds cool af

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But incredibly unrealistic

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Nah I understand. People always say that you only get that rich if your not a nice person. Well maybe someday Ill be the first.

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:36 AM

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No... The part about hacking into the pentagon as your job

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And idk how exactly you plan to make money from that

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:36 AM

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My plan to achieve it is to just spend an absurdly long amount of time in college, getting loads of degrees so im the best in the country

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Getting degrees doesn't make you good at that kind of stuff, typically. The best usually know how to do it before university

mellow hornet Apr 4, 2021, 2:39 AM

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... and thats always been a sore point for me. Im smart, people tell me im smart, but im no bill gates or tony stark. Im 17 and i only know how code in python from a high school course. I hate the fact that im not naturally a genius, that i cant figure out how to do a math problem without having to learn it beforehand

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The most frustrating thing for me is being smart enough to know theres a better way but not smart enough to get there.

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 2:40 AM

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If you want to get anywhere remotely close to what your dreams are, you need to start learning now. You're way behind the curve.

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You should have at least a handful of languages under your belt just to start, spread out across scripting, object, networking, etc

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:41 AM

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This dream would probably still be unrealistic if you knew 5 code languages before 3rd grade

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Ya gotta grind

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Or find a way to mod your mind, which would be even more impressive

tropic wind Apr 4, 2021, 2:44 AM

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I mean, if you get that than you don't need anything else to get rixh

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Rich

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You already have a chest code for money for the next many, many gens of your family

tranquil pecan Apr 4, 2021, 3:29 AM

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mellow hornet This is why i want the highest level of computer science education possible, so ...

Giving away code of proprietary software isn't inherently good. Even piracy has a point (debatable). This would, however, only hurt the developer(s) and maybe even pose security threats to end users. Your dreams are big, but don't be a jerk. :)

robust spruce Apr 4, 2021, 4:32 AM

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mellow hornet The most frustrating thing for me is being smart enough to know theres a better ...

Smart is subjective. Lots of people who are insanely smart have the social skills of a stick. If you have any empathy and personality while maintaining higher than normal abilities, that's the gold sweet spot.

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Companies now a days would rather have a team player with social skills over someone slightly more skilled but who's either a douche or a robot. Trust me.

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Anyway back to modding

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 4:37 AM

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U do that. I'll rejoin you briefly about a month from now to update existing stuff 🙂

robust spruce Apr 4, 2021, 4:37 AM

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Hahaha

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I'm back on 3.23 so I can finish my shit

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Just so I can fix it whenever that time comes, but it wasn't finished and I have a few parts left to finish

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 7:27 AM

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"why can people just not crack something that is designed to not be cracked with a snap of the finger?"

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people seem to have forgotten the purpose of encryption

marsh eagle Apr 4, 2021, 7:52 AM

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mellow hornet Am I right in my understanding that seeds in the game are processed through an a...

No but you can brute force the ship you want. Its P vs NP problem. You can never create a seed from choosen parts.

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My goal is a mobile app that can brute force your desired ship seed + glyph adress possible solar system in which it can occur

hoary sigil Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 AM

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Is there a way to edit mission progress? I have a mission that isn't progressing when I try to complete it.

vale iron Apr 4, 2021, 8:05 AM

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Yes, in the JSON you can change the progress value, just increment it up by one. Not sure how safe it is with the current editor, though

hoary sigil Apr 4, 2021, 8:16 AM

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Just tried it. Seems to work as expected.

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I'm currently doing Patterns in Time and had to do 2 missions for the Gek in order to progress. Completing missions didn't increment the counter.

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 8:18 AM

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Personally I hope you're counteracting a bug but hell, I can't stop you 🙂

hoary sigil Apr 4, 2021, 8:18 AM

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Changed progress for act 11 from 4 to 5 and that seems to have progressed it.

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I'm counteracting a bug. I don't often cheat for the heck of it in this game.

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 8:19 AM

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Its really nice when we can do that

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we should call it the save saver lol

hoary sigil Apr 4, 2021, 8:19 AM

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I make exceptions for the incubation and egg hatching timers, though. I use a mod to make those instant lol.

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 8:20 AM

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oof well who the hell thought the players were gonna wait a week for that shit anyway XD

hoary sigil Apr 4, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Long time gates for stuff like that just isn't fun imo.

hushed bronze Apr 4, 2021, 8:20 AM

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personally I think the L ships are fuggo but if they weren't I woulda hacked the hell out of those egg timers

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Who at HG wasn't like "Lets knock off the Majin Boo Ball and make players feed this egg souls of mudered sentinels and pirates until it has enough souls to be birthed on a hellish world of flame to be your servant"

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but no, they were like "fuck it, timegate"

hoary sigil Apr 4, 2021, 8:47 AM

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hoary sigil Changed progress for act 11 from 4 to 5 and that seems to have progressed it.

Fortunately I have some experience with editing json files. Hosting modded Minecraft servers and stuff.

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I've had to edit and add a few recipes and stuff.

edgy ivy Apr 4, 2021, 12:57 PM

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mellow hornet This is why i want the highest level of computer science education possible, so ...

The latter sounds good but why would why would a cyber vigilante dealing with the scum in power care about some old game from the '10s?

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 1:14 PM

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just be snowden instead

marsh eagle Apr 4, 2021, 3:17 PM

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hearty wasp just be snowden instead

But a snow. from area fifty one with classified tech stuff please

lime mesa Apr 4, 2021, 4:24 PM

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mellow hornet This is why i want the highest level of computer science education possible, so ...

Sir this is a Wendys

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I wanted to ask what did HG add that made modding far harder now?

dire hearth Apr 4, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Hey guys, if I use PSARC on a mod but it doesnt give me any LUA files and only a METADATA folder, how can i use AMUMSS to update it?

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the file is .MBIN

robust spruce Apr 4, 2021, 4:48 PM

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You have to create the lua file yourself

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Or just psarc to pak it

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Once you compile just drag the shit on psarc exe and boom

dire hearth Apr 4, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Wait so how do I create my own lua file?

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Do i have to write it myself or can I get it from the .pak?

pale niche Apr 4, 2021, 4:55 PM

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how does 1 know if the save editor is updated?

dire hearth Apr 4, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Or on the other hand, does anyone have a living ship timer skip mod lol

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 5:01 PM

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pale niche how does 1 know if the save editor is updated?

you check their github or nexus mods

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i.e. like every other mod, really

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 5:03 PM

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lime mesa I wanted to ask what did HG add that made modding far harder now?

they removed GUIDs in the exe which makes updating the tool that parse mbin data more difficult

lime mesa Apr 4, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Thats shiat, why would they.

edgy ivy Apr 4, 2021, 5:17 PM

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lime mesa Thats shiat, why would they.

The inner machinations of Hello Games are an enigma

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 5:30 PM

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it could be more efficient for em for all we know

robust spruce Apr 4, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Maybe it has to do with the cross save rewards n shit I dunno

lime mesa Apr 4, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Those need to get modded

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The expedition rewards

robust spruce Apr 4, 2021, 6:02 PM

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You might be able to today with save editor, don't know though

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 6:11 PM

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I mean people are already getting em in vanilla

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wouldn't be that hard to get a save from one of them and search the json

lime mesa Apr 4, 2021, 6:13 PM

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robust spruce You might be able to today with save editor, don't know though

Goatfungus?

lime mesa Apr 4, 2021, 6:13 PM

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hearty wasp wouldn't be that hard to get a save from one of them and search the json

Bruh how

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 6:14 PM

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I mean you can do json edit on NMSSE anyway\

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or just even by itself

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it's just gonna not have translated field names

lime mesa Apr 4, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Wdym speak english

robust spruce Apr 4, 2021, 6:28 PM

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Aww poor Winder

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Hahahaha

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Yes goatfungus makes NMSSE

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You could try and add in the reward IDs in the JSON editor of the program but I haven't tried yet, I tend to wait until it's officially updated

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 6:33 PM

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tbh if you don't know what a json is you're prolly not suitible to edit em in text spoggers

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so maybe just give up

robust spruce Apr 4, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Like JSON Statham?

dense rover Apr 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Is there a way to "revert" my patch on Steam PC to 3.32 to play with consoles?

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 7:12 PM

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like not experimental?

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idk what the current versions are

dense rover Apr 4, 2021, 7:12 PM

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No, current is 3.33

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 7:15 PM

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then you prolly can just wait for consoles to catch up

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they don't usually take a whole week just to do so

dense rover Apr 4, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Hopefully

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 7:16 PM

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also this is more a #forever-archived-legacy thing

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they'll have more experience I'm sure

lime mesa Apr 4, 2021, 7:34 PM

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hearty wasp tbh if you don't know what a json is you're prolly not suitible to edit em in te...

Not going to do anything dumbass that's why am asking

vale moat Apr 4, 2021, 7:43 PM

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... Any help on these PC Mods i want that i don't think i can do myself:

Disable Auto-Flashlight...
Enlarge/colour the walking reticule...
Increase the walking/flying (down-arrow, not build menu) menu timeout...
Increase the walking tool timeout...

waxen cedar Apr 4, 2021, 7:54 PM

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God damn it Sean. Already teasing....

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I wonder if there is anything of interest hidden in the files after expeditions

lime mesa Apr 4, 2021, 7:59 PM

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can u save edit yet

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 8:01 PM

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waxen cedar I wonder if there is anything of interest hidden in the files after expeditions

we have a list of changed files after every update

waxen cedar Apr 4, 2021, 8:01 PM

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oh right, the modding discord

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on what channel there?

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 8:01 PM

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and scenes haven't changed

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mod-resources

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you can prolly still use model viewer to see any new models

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if it reacts to warnings ok

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I think it does

waxen cedar Apr 4, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Unfortunately I'm at relatives for the easter so no access to PC

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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rip

shy grove Apr 4, 2021, 10:25 PM

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does anyone here run experimental (beta) branch?

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can someone on Experimental (beta) branch help me confirm if current build number is 71106, and not 71096?

vague elm Apr 4, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Does anyone around here know if there is still a functional save editor for NMS?

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also is this the proper place to inquire about this, or is this not kosher to ask about here?

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 10:48 PM

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vague elm Does anyone around here know if there is still a functional save editor for NMS?

no

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 10:48 PM

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vague elm also is this the proper place to inquire about this, or is this not kosher to as...

yes

vague elm Apr 4, 2021, 10:49 PM

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So i take it that the goatfungus editor doesn't work with the current game version then?

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 10:51 PM

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unless you can edit json, no

vague elm Apr 4, 2021, 10:51 PM

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hearty wasp unless you can edit json, no

okie dokie, thank you for your time : D

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 10:52 PM

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vague elm okie dokie, thank you for your time : D

you can google NMSSE's github and see if it's updated next time to avoid potentially hours of waiting for an answer

vague elm Apr 4, 2021, 10:54 PM

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hearty wasp you can google NMSSE's github and see if it's updated next time to avoid potenti...

it would seem that it was last updated around august of 2019. that's alright, ill survive without it.

hearty wasp Apr 4, 2021, 10:56 PM

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says 26 days ago here but ok

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I'm ok with the entirety of 2020 being forgotten anyway

hoary sigil Apr 5, 2021, 1:47 AM

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vague elm Does anyone around here know if there is still a functional save editor for NMS?

Well, I used NMS save editor to get past a bugged mission earlier. Since it hasn't been updated yet, make a backup before making an edit.

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And adding an item to my inventory seemed to work fine as well. (Bugged quest ate the item without progressing. Ended up having to abandon it.)

vague elm Apr 5, 2021, 2:05 AM

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hearty wasp says 26 days ago here but ok

I was going off of his last patreon update, my bad hehehe

leaden laurel Apr 5, 2021, 9:46 AM

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@left sentinel

📎 ZZZCombinedMod__1.pak

left sentinel Apr 5, 2021, 9:46 AM

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nah I didnt want it, I just thought that it must be painful to update mods right now without the compiler

leaden laurel Apr 5, 2021, 9:47 AM

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If you only want black space run this through Amumss.

📎 Black_Space__Nebulae.lua