nms-modding

[fair narwhal]

thing is, i do not care about what people do with my mods, they can eat them for all i care, i have so much stuff i have not uploaded

[vale iron]

One or more people have claimed HG stole their mod ideas for the game. Probably not true

[fair narwhal]

i find stealing just counterproductive , on top of it being abhorent

you may use things from my mods i do not care, but in my mods i would put a text file telling them how to do so themselves if they care enough , im gonna do that next upload

we all have the same files

but how many actually read readme's

not very many

[solid hawk]

I only have awareness of HG looking at one mod specifically. They were getting signifcant numbers of reports of a mod causing others to crash. Both HG and external testing proved the reports to be unfounded and the underlying cause was determined to be a rare game bug.

[fair narwhal]

i wonder why none has reported me , i go into expeditions and chase ships going the same speed as them while they are pulsing

wish i could also make the sand-worm noise and they hear it too

to sort of announce my arrival to a planet

[vale iron]

Because you aren't causing crashes

Unless you cause a crash, they really don't give a F

[fair narwhal]

would that be funny, if when i am landing on a planet, the sand worm sound happens when im flying into the atmosphere

not a bad idea

it would be like trumpets announcing a demigod's arrival

also would make it so that thunderstorms happen soon after

[solid hawk]

I used to believe mods had more importance than they actually do, before I understood the economics of mods for NMS. A fraction of 1% of NMS players use mods.

[fair narwhal]

yeah

i notice nobody cares, but damned if you do , damned if you dont

i say take a shot and go for itr

[solid hawk]

Mods don't drive new sales, which is the most important metric

[fair narwhal]

take a damn chance

thats my advice for whoever is there

[vale iron]

Just have fun. Don't imagine that people care about what you do, postitive or negative. Most people have plenty going on in their lives that they really don't give a shit what you do with a little EXML file that will never affect them.

[fair narwhal]

i want everyone to know how to mod

but does everyone want to? no

the ends dont meet the goals or whatever that phrase was

good intentions arent always good , something like that

[vale iron]

Both the ends and the means differ for every player and developer. Developers tend to follow the biggest swatch of demographic overlap, while modders tend to hit random blips on the outsides of Venn diagrams. Don't worry about what other people think, as long as you cover your bases to make sure the mod doesn't already exist, just do your thing

[fair narwhal]

am i the first one you saw the spinny thing ?

the mod i made by accident

debating on if i should upload that

like i said take a chance, i also like making people laugh

whats funny to some, is annoying to others

or even downright terrifying

i can see how somebody would be scared of a player beating them to a a planet and then proceeding to follow them around

[solid hawk]

Road to hell is paved with good intentions

[fair narwhal]

expedition allows me to have an "audience" more then base gameplay

notice how there are many players?

when is the next one?

expeditions are like a sort of wide-spaced mmo

[solid hawk]

We've no idea. When HG releases it

[hearty blade]

Huh, I just assumed if you said you used mods they'd completely ignore the help request

[fair narwhal]

except no one interacts

[vale iron]

Audiences only matter to presenters that are unconfident in their performance

[fair narwhal]

nono i like to just be silly around players , hoping i put a smile on their face

[solid hawk]

Individual ones yes

[fair narwhal]

instead of just giving ai valves

[solid hawk]

This was also several years ago

[fair narwhal]

dont ever give that shit i dont

[vale iron]

Ok, I lied, Audience is one of the most important considerations in presentations

[solid hawk]

I believe there was less automation to their ticketing system then

[fair narwhal]

i wish somebody else would go around with me and orbit planets at faster then ship speeds, i dont want to be the only person with that ability

[vale iron]

There have been requests for save files related to bug reports wihtin the last year

[fair narwhal]

wish my friend irl would understand why i like to mod nms

[vale iron]

You're not the only person with the ability. You're the only person that wants other people to see that ability

[fair narwhal]

he does play this alongside me and doesnt have aproblem with it, but he doesnt wanna do it

but im like, i need a sidekick

[hearty blade]

I've had past-the limit Corvettes crash me in the nexys, really irritating

[fair narwhal]

he does save edit tho

but just not yknow, do what i do

[hearty blade]

At least I think it was the Corvettes, multiplayer is already buggy

[vale iron]

You might want to listen to the 2-part podcast "Richarc Hatem's Paranormal Bookshelf": Siren Cal of the Hungry Ghosts

Seems to cover some one the sociological and psychological issues you are thinking about

Also, just a great podcast, mix of librophile and supernatural

[fair narwhal]

would you say i have a "god complex"

i hope not

[vale iron]

Narcissistic, not god. You don't think you're god, just that what's important should relate to you

[fair narwhal]

im still mostly kind

mostly

[vale iron]

The mst likely answer for any of these interactions is that people just don't give a shit

[fair narwhal]

i noticed

im like a house fly

[vale iron]

If they do give a shit, you have to start worrying if drama is coming

[fair narwhal]

like a house-fly more then a ghost

[vale iron]

It's not you're a house fly. That's taking the point and moving it directly to a narcissistic angle, where it's about you.

People don't care about things that don't affect their lives

[fair narwhal]

right

no i understand

[hearty blade]

I think you care too much about what other people think Yutaka

[fair narwhal]

its complicated

ill just leave that for therapy

and not here

[hearty blade]

I'm not sick but I'm not well

[vale iron]

Most people in the world have a billion things that affect their lives more than some random dude on the Nexus Anomaly teleporting around. Oh, wait, need to feed the baby. Oh, need to walk the dog. Oh, wife made dinner, time to do that. Time to wash dishes. Bed time! after I get the kids to actually fall asleep. Get up in the morning for work. Now, how much do you care about a guy in a non-competitive game moving fast?

[fair narwhal]

also modding on here , is not my first rodeo, but its the one im the most happy in , and the one that i have the most uh, whats the word, neutral people

[solid hawk]

We're all beige

[hearty blade]

I only care if I'm being griefed.

[vale iron]

This modding community is far more aged and "mature" we like to think. It's going to be completely different from other modding communitites

[solid hawk]

Very nice

Many of us are either in the range or well on the way to being pentioners

[hearty blade]

Like when I was in the expedition and somebody started attacking me, burying me in the ground and spamming base PCs next to me trying to get it so so I couldn't dig out

[vale iron]

We could both make it darker, if you wish? 😛

[fair narwhal]

ive modded a few other games, doing similar stuff to what i showcase on here. but its like, well... uh.. the results of that were not as i intended. and my intentions were mistaken for trolling

i would not call myself a troll whatsoever, why? i don't want anyone to be sad

or very annoyed

[vale iron]

Why don't you have a new version of Samus Aran's Metroid shp ported over to NMS yet?!?!?!? Ohhhhh, I'm sorry, had to sleep on a cot in the hospital all weekend as my wife went through her third round of chemotherapy for stage 4 cancer. I'll be sure to drop whatever it was she wanted and get right on what you wanted.

[fair narwhal]

im glad i have nobody barking at me like that

grass isnt greener

[hearty blade]

I'm still waiting for all the different versions of starfox Arwings you meanie!

🤣

[fair narwhal]

it bugs me how serious people are in videogames

[vale iron]

Do we have different models for the different wings?

[fair narwhal]

cant learn to take a load off a little

having an adrenaline dump at all times is bad for you

[hearty blade]

There's actually several different arwing models throughout the games. It'd be hell

[fair narwhal]

are there actually anyone that petty who beg for mod updates?

[hearty blade]

I believe your ship mod uses my favorite model, the starfox assault arwing

[fair narwhal]

i mean im petty too

[hearty blade]

I read that as pretty

[fair narwhal]

when somebody begs me for items in nms, i feel good about myself, that natural? that pathetic?

when i see "thank you" it brings me joy

[vale iron]

Yeah, I have one decent Arwing model already done, just needs to be converted. Was wondering if there were others I should be aware of

[fair narwhal]

but now i know that 'thank you" is just an emote and automatically puts text

and some could be doing that by accident

the less i know, the better

[hearty blade]

Starfox 64 3D, Starfox Assault, Starfox Adventures, Starfox Zero has two... Starfox command has... Way too many

[vale iron]

Those aren't models I can use 😄

[fair narwhal]

i have been told thousands of times on this server now that people should "play how they want to" , and for the most part, actually for 99% of the part, that is actually executed and true

[vale iron]

Get me CCBY models

[fair narwhal]

it isnt just a repeated platitude

[hearty blade]

Well I guess Starfox Zero has 3 if you count the recolor

What are ccby models?

[fair narwhal]

it isnt just empty platitudes

but genuine

[hearty blade]

Also I was kidding about adding more Arwings. I don't want you to suffer

[vale iron]

Yeah, we really believe it's a sandbox and you should play it however you have fun. The newer difficulty settings that let you customize so much kind of emphasize that ideal

[fair narwhal]

thanks guys

[solid hawk]

Has to allow for use by copyright

[fair narwhal]

i stopped binge drinking when i came back to nms during corvette expedition

been good since

traded one addiction for another

[solid hawk]

Can't just use someone elses materials. Must be allowed legally

[hearty blade]

Right, what does CCBY stand for though?

[vale iron]

There are some players that are like - "Oh, you used camera mode after spawning to see where the closest cave was while the storm couldn't get to you??~?~?~?~? Blasphemer! Burn him at the warp core!

[solid hawk]

Also has to be in a format which'll work with the tools we use for NMS modelling.

[fair narwhal]

i wont name names

[vale iron]

Creative Commons By Attribute, something like tha

[fair narwhal]

but i know who you mean

[solid hawk]

Creative Commons license

[vale iron]

Creative Commons By

One of the Creative Commons licenses

[hearty blade]

Hmm I wonder if that'd get the team working on that Starfox themed rework of Freeespace in trouble. I forget the name

[vale iron]

Give me any model in a fairly normal format and fairly reasonable provenance, and I can probably make it work in NMS, assuming it's of decent quality to begin with

[hearty blade]

In think it's called Starfox event horizon, looks fun

[fair narwhal]

my rules, for myself. I have stated time and time again? 1: never kill players 2: never trap people in your ship intentionally, and if you do accidentally, help them in any way you can to get out of it, and 3: uh never build something that you think will crash players

[solid hawk]

That doesn't have a bazillion triangles. lol

[fair narwhal]

because i know there are "crash machines"

[hearty blade]

So definitely not the Nintendo 64 arwing lol

[vale iron]

The one I have is not overly complicated

[hearty blade]

This one, correct?

That's what I remember from your mod anyway

That's the Starfox Assault Arwing. I have to be careful or I might start nerding out over it

[vale iron]

Yeah, that's the model I use

The point is, positive nihilist existentialism. None of this shit matters, beyond what import you or the other player put on it. Do what you think creates meaning

No one cares about what you are doing, so what you are doing only matters to you, so the only importance to what you do is what importance you place on it. Do the best of your ability to accomplish your goal and you have done more than most people do in ten minutes in the toilet.

[solid hawk]

haha

People are more likely to point out flaws than sing praises for accomplishments, so ignore it all and you'll be happier.

[vale iron]

If you have enough downloads, you can go by endorsement:unique download roatios, but you need several hundred unique downloads for that to become statistically significant

[solid hawk]

Like the saying goes, "Opinions are like ⁨a**hol*s⁩, everybodys got one"

[vale iron]

I have two!

[solid hawk]

You'll make some proctologist very happy.

[vale iron]

Opinions and assholes are also not admissible in court.

Your honor, permission to amend my previous comment? Obviously lawyers are assholes and are admissible in court. My apologies for the inaccuracy.

[ornate mauve]

(this is probably a very stupid question but) I'm trying to install beyond base building right now and the tutorial I looked at says that there should be a .pak file somewhere, but I can't find it. I tried putting the beyond base building folder into mods, but it did not work, and I do not have a disablemods file anywhere

[final hazel]

Whatever tutorial you are following is significantly outdated. Please follow the installation/troubleshooting guide here http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

.pak files, DISABLEMODS.txt and PCBANKS/MODS have not been involved in NMS modding for just over a year

[ornate mauve]

ok then it is, thank you

[solid hawk]

FYI, from the BBB page:

Don't use video tutorials for NMS. Tend to quickly get outdated and incorrect, in general.

[ornate mauve]

I must be doing something wrong in that case. it does not work even like this

[final hazel]

When you open the game, does a mod warning occur?

[ornate mauve]

no

[final hazel]

Try deleting the file ⁨No Man's Sky\Binaries\SETTINGS\GCMODSETTINGS.MXML⁩

then reopen the game

[ornate mauve]

ok, it works

thank you!

[solid hawk]

Grouch, for the win!

[vale iron]

Love that trashcan

[fair narwhal]

yall got starfox mod but there arent any bosses in space that require our weapons to be as powerful as they can get

[spare linden]

Hey is it possible to convert songs into Bytebeat?

[solid hawk]

No tooling to do so provided by HG or the modding community. Try google

[solid hawk]

Who is yall in that message and which star fox mod, there's several? If you're talking about gShip Custom Ships, that is just "skins" to change the model for a ship. Nothing to do with weapons.

[fair narwhal]

I misread

Just disregard it as a useless message

Nothing to do with weapons right , but what I talking about was completely unrelated? Moreso a skin like that would make sense and look cooler if there was actually stuff to fight , that game series has boss fights and to my knowledge nms does not (I'm sorry if I'm confusing you)

look we don't really have anything to test out maxed out ship guns on in nms, when does a ship gun need to be able to fire for over 1 minute in the game ? What requires that kind of consistent firing? Hellogames didn't put boss enemies in space

Like there's not really any bullet sponge enemies in general in the game

[hearty blade]

You do realize most people don't really play the game for the combat? A lot of players choose their ships for the aesthetics. Hell, look at all the people in the Corvette channel, Corvettes are buggy messes that have their stats get jumbled around randomly. They're aesthetic expressions of those players, same with those large bases.

[solid hawk]

Correct.

[solid hawk]

The freighter base on my main save is stupid massive. I only ever go to about 2% of it.

We also don't get the people who are seriously into flight sims, because the game isn't designed to cater to that. It's focus is on the casual gamer.

[hearty blade]

What kind of base? I tried making a small freighter "city"

[solid hawk]

It's actually a pre-canned one. Was "cool" for about 5 seconds. Then it became a massive pain in the butt getting lost. lol. Let me find you the link.....

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1610

[hearty blade]

Oh wow that's... Big

[solid hawk]

Just need to replace your current freighter base with this one via raw JSON editing with one of the save editors.

[solid hawk]

Yep. Also need decent hardware.

[hearty blade]

That base would make my PC explode

[solid hawk]

Back with my old laptop, in its' final days, I couldn't run through the base, only walk. If I ran, couldn't load components of the base fast enough, so I'd fall through the floor before the floor could render. haha

[hearty blade]

Yeah that was happening to my in my freighter base after I messed up my computer. I'm hoping the reset fixes it. Still waiting on a USB

Game started running like the Nintendo switch version

[fair narwhal]

Oh hell no, dude I would slam my head against a brick wall

[hearty blade]

Don't have a brick wall nearby, but we do have a metal shipping container 🤔

I can bash my head into it and make a loud gong noise!

[solid hawk]

Conex box?

[fair narwhal]

Is there an invisible wall around planets or something? When I use the submarine to get up to space , go far enough from planet to be out of it's orbit , sometimes there's a sort of wall that the thing can't go past , that a wall?

my submarine is not vanilla it goes 70,000

I used to be able to go planet to planet

[hearty blade]

I believe there's a boundary vehicles have to cross before they're considered to be in space?

[fair narwhal]

Landing in that is harder then it looks

[hearty blade]

You know, since you've been screwing around with weapons maybe you can answer my question that I asked Babscoole

"I have a question regarding weapon-lock on. Was there anything like the maglock in the game for multitool weapons or no? Iirc the combat scope doesn't lock on but it does stabilize aiming."

Or at least go wild and crazy trying to figure it out lol

[solid hawk]

Multitool do not have the same properties leveraged by Maglock, those are ship weapon only.

[fair narwhal]

Like I said, I'm definitely the dumbest modder around here , nothing I do makes any sense, it's like I'm Michael Bay but spastic

I can't think of anyone else that would take a look at that and be like hmmm imma install this and make my game all black

But hey nobody warned me about quality control

[solid hawk]

We did say testing is a big part of mod making, haha

[fair narwhal]

Yes but I'm a bit extreme

I personally think it's ok it's like a movie

[solid hawk]

Lock on isn't a part of multitool weapons. I'd guess because there wasn't seen to be a need or desire since ground based combat everthing is moving at a much slower rate of speed.

[fair narwhal]

I made my sentinels a little bit stronger

[hearty blade]

Oh dang, I think you said that before, yeah

[fair narwhal]

And larger In size

Little bit being like a billion hp

Their attacks are also rapid fire

If you were a vanilla player you would not survive

I modified my sentinels

[hearty blade]

You could potentially experiment with adding a bit if variety to the sentinel waves in regards to what spawns?

[fair narwhal]

More spawn yes

Their guns shoot faster too

And their bombs

[hearty blade]

Oh that doesn't sound fun to me

[fair narwhal]

It sounds like a movie

[solid hawk]

Mod, Savage Sentinels. Provided one of my favorite feedback messages

[fair narwhal]

mines a lot worse

Eg more unbalanced

Why because I fucking can

Ahahaha

[hearty blade]

Sure, go for it

[fair narwhal]

I wish we had to fight 1,000

50 giant walkeds

[hearty blade]

I'm guessing sentinel spawns are probably hard coded, so you probably can't get the corrupted sentinels to spawn while fighting the typical waves?

[fair narwhal]

Not hard

There is a variable

In the game files they're only called robot

Robot is less cool but easier to type

Who even types these out

[hearty blade]

Would it be possible to make it so sentinel ships attack the player outside of ships, like a pirate raid on a building?

[fair narwhal]

Aw c'mon you gotta admit this is cool

[hearty blade]

Eh, it was cool the first time I glitched it to have infinite sentinels after me, but any time after that, not so much

[fair narwhal]

I guess I'm easily entertained

[hearty blade]

Mostly because I was trying to get the freighter to spawn to farm them for that scanner item

[fair narwhal]

I mean rapid fire rockets ? Ever seen that before?

[hearty blade]

Eh, I think I'd prefer homing rockets

I can't remember if those were effected by the maglock mod

[fair narwhal]

Rapid fire is a better lightshow

Use more gun

It's like those sentinels were lining up to die

[hearty blade]

Missiles that fire more missiles

[fair narwhal]

Just lining up to die like d day

Ok that was bad

Nothing satisfying more then being the threat to the sentinels instead of them being a threat to you

Tables turned

They like ants now and I'm the ant bully

[hearty blade]

🤔

[fair narwhal]

Just describing how much weaker the sentinels are compared to me with modss

They are like asteroids now

Just targets

Ever have a shitty day and wanna take out your anger on defenseless enemies? Well now you can

I make myself overpowered in order to be able to vent my anger

Good therapy

I'm not in a good mood when playing nms, this helps

Hell I'm never in a good mood gaming

[solid hawk]

Not hardcoded, could be modified.

Why you'd want corrupted mixing in with regular, no idea.

[hearty blade]

Robot spiders of course!

[frank bridge]

So there could be a mod where sentinels spawn 100x as many?

(absolutely horrible phrasing there)

[solid hawk]

@frank bridge Could, if you want your game to turn into a slideshow

For strictly increasing numbers, see https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2638

[fair narwhal]

yes , and its insane

but its like shooting fish in a barrel for me

handy dandy neutron cannon

but i do wish we could also plant remote explosives

instead of firing it from a cannon

how hard would explosive charges even be to make

but everyone would call it cowardly

[charred perch]

get a dreadnot in and fight the capital ship

[rustic crescent]

I wonder if there are mods that can fix not loading half of corvette block textures

[hearty wasp]

prolly not

[solid hawk]

New mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/4060

[low tulip]

.

[sterile crescent]

hey friends. did someone try to redo expedition 1 with offline gaming on steam and changing the season cache file? i did expedition 12. all fine. exp 1 i cant even reach the ship because i got no tech slots. wtf is that

[fresh arch]

where did you get the expedition files? have you used the general patches from cwmonkey's exped generator?

[sterile crescent]

i found them in a steam threat

[fresh arch]

https://cwmonkey.github.io/nms-expeditions/

read through this webpage and get the files from there

[sterile crescent]

ok thank you

[round sinew]

@steady ocean there's quite a few pins there, but you could simply just use consumerism mod, adds the parts to quicksilver shop, buy them in game to unlock account wide, take mod out, clean

[steady ocean]

yeah alright i’m busy next few hours but i’ll give it a try later on, thanks again

[vale iron]

Consumerism is best if you just want the items. Playing the expeditions is a good experience too, though

[steady ocean]

yo, will it work on mac? im away so js on my laptop for next few days. I do wanna do expeditions and will do them offline w mod when back at pc but theres one item i rly want to build w rn

[fresh arch]

Mac version of NMS does not support modding

can't say about loading custom expedition files, see the expedition generator link above and read the page for details there

[steady ocean]

yea na thats chill ill js do it on pc in a few days

[mortal cloak]

is there a mod which increases the number of ships I can have?

[tough warren]

is there a mod that removes spiders and crabs

god I fucking hate them so much

they lag the hell out of me and they jumpscare me

[fresh arch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2223?tab=description

[tough warren]

oh thank god

theres this massive spider race with 8 eyes in one of my settlement planets

and everytime I see them i hide

[tough warren]

what do grunts look liek

[fresh arch]

dunno

[tough warren]

is it like lethal company where its just a moving text that says spider

[empty trail]

They're like the vaguely humanoid looking ones

[tough warren]

thats very amazing

[tough warren]

also i guess for some very strong phobia people that image kinda is unsettling

but its worth seeing it to download the actual mod

[final hazel]

You can read the mod's description, it removes them entirely and replaces them with grunts

[final hazel]

Teddy bears

[tough warren]

thats kinda cute but ill probably never trust a teddy bear again

[final hazel]

They look like this

[pseudo knoll]

goofy little guys

[tough warren]

that were originally nightmare fuel

[modest sluice]

how to return expeditions please help

[final hazel]

https://cwmonkey.github.io/nms-expeditions/

[mortal cloak]

are there any good tutorials on how to make a mod?

[vale iron]

Start with the pins in this channel

#nms-modding message

Best starting place

Then read Winder's EXML document. It should be linked in that document.

[solid hawk]

If looking for videos, the answer is a hard no. We do text documents, for ease when HG changes things.

[pseudo knoll]

this applies to pretty much anything, video tutorials are horrible for anything that's not a set in stone method, like changing a tire on a specific car model

[solid hawk]

We gets lots of people who ask about videos for NMS

[stuck portal]

Same with a lot of other modding stuff, when old methods don't work anymore, those videos don't get taken down and just causes troubleshooting headaches

[vale iron]

Also, you kind of have to have reading comprehension to mod

[tough warren]

erm

is there a FAQ on how to install mods from nexus

[stuck portal]

Use their client like Vortex

[tough warren]

uh

how do I do it manually

I saw somewhere that said

[stuck portal]

Are you on PC?

[tough warren]

make a folder named mods

[tough warren]

yeah

[stuck portal]

Xbox app version? Or steam/gog version?

[tough warren]

gog

uh

[stuck portal]

The gamedata is in the NMS install directory, not the appdata where the NMS game saves are located

[tough warren]

I installed the anti spider mod thanks

[vale iron]

Is this from AI? It's almost word for word the NMS Modding document, but not quite. If so, it's good to know at least one AI has updated their instructions.

[stuck portal]

Nope, taken from the wiki

[vale iron]

Ok, good, that was done by a reliable person, so all good

[round sinew]

@plush wasp characters we make in the main menu get 2 save slots: auto, and restore point, numbered in pairs. odd numbers are auto, even are restore point e.g. save1 and save2 are of the same character, save1 is autosave, save2 is restore point. in the main menu, the game will load latest modified save of a character

[plush wasp]

ahhh gocha

does it matter whihc one i use to edit the save then, like is there a "safe" and "not safe" method or does it not matter in the end since the game uses the last modified one?

[hearty wasp]

lenni wrote that

so prolly paraphrased from the doc

he overhauled the page a few weeks ago I noticed

[final hazel]

Actually I think that's mine

Yeah that probably is

[hearty wasp]

oh nice

I only got the notif from lenni's edit ig fandom hates you

piece of shit site anyway

[final hazel]

Ye I edited the miraheze one and someone copied that over, I think they copied it over lenni's tho :<

[hearty wasp]

I keep forgetting miraheze exists

I know we oughta switch to the alternative but I wish there's a way for all of us to switch to the new site together instead of lingering in the old one for a decade

[final hazel]

Yeah, that's why I chip at it sometimes when I find stuff that's just all super wrong

but rewriting the longest pages on there becomes hell

[hearty wasp]

come to think of it the modding wiki's still on fandom too

with all sorts of differently outdated pages lol

just Sisyphean all around

[vale iron]

Yeah the edit was done by lenni, and I'm completely fine with that

[tough warren]

are there any optimization mods

[final hazel]

For performance? Not really.

I think there's one that removes grass rendering, another that simplifies a common base building object model

[solid hawk]

Look on NexusMods and see what's there. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/newrecently Only mods new or updated since 29 January 2025 will work.

[summer socket]

posibble to mod my game to only get past expadition rewards?

[final hazel]

Yes, it is #nms-questions message
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3420

[summer socket]

im on xbox pc i play on pc

[final hazel]

Then you can use mods, like all other PC releases of No Man's Sky (except Mac).
See http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550 for detailed mod installation instructions

[fresh arch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3007 @tough warren

[tough warren]

that do be yoinky sploinky

[thin shard]

I am a yoinky sploinky

[sharp geyser]

Hey y’all! I have an exotic that I love but I really want one of those modded spheres like these. Does anyone have one that they’d be willing to trade me?

[solid hawk]

#nms-lfg-or-trades

Nought to do with modding.

[sharp geyser]

@tepid terrace one of these?

[vale iron]

@pseudo knoll You can modify more things using MBIN mods, but it's best to avoid that, and you still can't get much logic without entity state changes

There is a really obtuse system they started a few years ago that no one knows how to use really, sketch stuff

Monkeyman knows it a little bit, but nothing has been made with it or to manipulate it

[pseudo knoll]

interesting

[vale iron]

Oh, I mean "sketch", not sketchy

SketchNode and stuff like that

Best I know is it seems like some sort of GUI type logic chain stuff they started using that is much more powerful and complicated than normal entity things, but it's all basically unlabeled

[pseudo knoll]

node would lend itself to being UI, ive seen that term used elsewhere

(in that case, it was the name of an AXAML (Avalonia XAML) tag for some XAML Runtime I was looking at lmao)

[vale iron]

If you're interested to see what it's like, you can search ENTITY files for "sketch"

I always get disappointed when I open an ENTITY that I want to raid and see those sections, because I often won't know how to steal them for other objects

I think they are usually used for AV stuff, but I really don't know

[solid hawk]

It's the lack of labeling which makes it unuseable by us. Gems like:

Ah, value 79! 79 what?

Pipers piping?

[vale iron]

Ohhhh, custom data 97? Yeah, that's what I want to change

[pseudo knoll]

bro. thats so unfathomably shit lol

surely that has to be generated by the engine editor, no way an HG dev looks at this and goes "ah yeah, i know what's going on here"

CustomData[0] = 83;

mhm yep makes sense to me

[vale iron]

They use a GUI of some kind and it generates all that stuff

[pseudo knoll]

makes sense

only slightly less unreadable than a visual studio .sln

[vale iron]

In some of the deep dive videos you can see their dev tools in the background

[vital siren]

Has anyone tried making nms VR native with the M4? Looks like it already works with some titles via apples Game Porting Toolkit (GPTK) 2 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0tLuKZz15FY

I've got a quest 3 and a base M4 Mac mini and would love to test this out

[pseudo knoll]

hello games probably has to be the ones to do that

mods for this game are largely data modifications, not logic changes

[vital siren]

I think it might work without tweaking the game engine, will set up the environment tomorrow and report back

Wait the vid said no modern headset will work fux

[pseudo knoll]

really?

what's needed

that seems...weird

[solid hawk]

What we see, in these decompiled MXML files is not how HG sees them. What we see is a construct of the modding community, via the MBINCompiler tool.

HG uses a combination of the aforementioned GUI dev tools and just pure source code.

[pseudo knoll]

interesting

i would have thought they were the actual format given the game loads mods of those formats

(and .mbin too but yeah)

neat

[solid hawk]

Well the new EXML modding system was created and designed with existing mods in mind, so they took what we were already familiar with and used it as a template to design their EXML mod processing engine.

[vale iron]

Don't trust anything nms modding related you see outside this channel, the nms-modding discord, or maybe the nms modding reddit.

[solid hawk]

On HGs end, compiling the source code generates the MBIN files, there isn't an intermediary state, like MXML

[vale iron]

We think it was like "this is what they already use, let's make something similar that also does patch modding"

As for VR, most modders for this game don't own VR and can't help with that

[pseudo knoll]

huh. thats actually awesome as hell

[vital siren]

Apples Game Porting Toolkit (GPTK) 2 is an official game porting engine for amd64 to arm64 with tweaks to allow for native code execution on the M4

It works but looks like it lacks support from meta

As that's the headset I'd be using and it doesn't have openvr runtime libraries on Mac OS

[vale iron]

That does sound problematic, yes

[pseudo knoll]

it has open in the name

compile it yourself

if you even can lmfao

[vital siren]

I wouldn't even know where to begin

[hardy aurora]

@vital siren

No gifs in this channel please

[pseudo knoll]

brh

[vital siren]

Homer fades into the grass

[pseudo knoll]

lmao im on the openvr repository and there are NO COMPILATION INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL

thank you valve software

very cool

[vital siren]

Epic

[vale iron]

No, Valve /s

[vital siren]

Daddy Newell why

[pseudo knoll]

if you can figure out how to use CMake then you can do it (it has a CMakeLists.txt) but yeah, even i don't really know how to do that

[vital siren]

Oh

That's not too hard actually

[pseudo knoll]

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/openvr

assuming it has mac support

which if there are no libraries already...yeah

none of the 136 wiki pages mention Metal as a rendering API

[vital siren]

I'm pretty sure M4 also supports Vulcan and GL

[pseudo knoll]

nope

ancient opengl and no vulkan

if you were running vulkan before it was using moltenvk (Vulkan -> Metal)

[vital siren]

Damn

Yeah I think I was but that was like on a 2014 mini

[solid hawk]

Brick wall number two, No mods for mac with NMS. Well 90% true......

[vital siren]

I figured

[pseudo knoll]

unless you can crossover the PC version i suppose

(crossover is a dedicated version of Wine for mac)

bruh

can we fucking not

[vital siren]

Is there an arm based version of no Man's sky?

Or is it just using a translation layer on arm for windows

[solid hawk]

I did some testing with a mac guy recently and he figured out a way to mod NMS on Mac, but very non-trivial. Have to unpak the game data files, decompile, make changes to the vanilla files, recompile, repak, then re-sign the reconstituted paks.

[vital siren]

Ew

[pseudo knoll]

Ah so you're basically romhacking

[vital siren]

Everything's so overly complicated on Mac

[pseudo knoll]

LMAO

[solid hawk]

No GAMEDATA\MODS and patch files.

[pseudo knoll]

insane

[vital siren]

No cuz everything is signed on macOS

[pseudo knoll]

why dont they do that? surely it can't be the craziest thing in the world

[solid hawk]

Yep

[vital siren]

If you want to use a program that's not signed you have to go into the privacy and security settings and put in your password to open it

[pseudo knoll]

unless you quarantine it yeah

yeah

[solid hawk]

Nothing the NMS modding community would be interested or really could do to provide mods to end-user players.

[vital siren]

WAIT

https://github.com/cbirkhold/openvr-macos

[pseudo knoll]

uh....

its ancient

lol

[solid hawk]

Nobody wants to provide a 5GB compressed mod to remove one sound from the game, which is what it would entail.

[vale iron]

Someone worked out a path for getting mods to somewhat work in Mac. It's not easy though

[solid hawk]

Yes, I described above.

[pseudo knoll]

Reminds me of Tears of the Kingdom modding. All that has is whole file replacements, like on NMS mac. the benefit is there's like tens if not hundreds of thousands of files instead of like, 7 huge ones
it's still rough though
and that game has a whole resource table system, which informs the game how much memory is needed for a given actor (entity); so if you accidentally increase the memory intensity of something without fixing its resource table the game just fucking crashes

the things you need to do to make a big ass game like that work on 4gb of memory (SHARED BETWEEN CPU AND GPU) i tell you what

[solid hawk]

Prior to 29 January 2025, NMS was whole file replacement.

[vital siren]

https://www.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/comments/1oxl5h7/m4_vr_demo_through_webxr_vr_runtime_efforts_on/

[pseudo knoll]

at least it didnt have rstbs to fuck up. shudders

[vital siren]

Soon 😭

[solid hawk]

With the Mac thing above, it not just whole file replacement, but also whole file archive replacement, each .pak can contain hundreds or even thousands of individual game files. Just to change one thing in one file, have to replace the entire .pak

[pseudo knoll]

yeah thats hell

[solid hawk]

Like ALL things involving HG, which is a black hole of information, purely a guess, but my theory on Mac modding with NMS is that Apple said no way in order to ensure some level of stability, completely in the control of HG.

[vale iron]

At least in NMS it was still hundreds or thousands of files instead of a handful. Though the current system is still a lot better

[pseudo knoll]

if it's not on the mac app store i dont think what apple wants really matters(?)

[solid hawk]

Game bugs, ok, HG can fix those. HG can't make bad mods more stable though.

It would to HG. They like to play nice with others within a proscribed framework.

Is NMS in the App store?

[pseudo knoll]

pretty sure no

think just steam

[solid hawk]

kk

[pseudo knoll]

i dont have a mac to check though

[cobalt condor]

Mac version is only available on Steam. When it came out HG said it would be coming to the app store later, but it never did

[solid hawk]

Again, just a theory. In the past, Apple was very controling of third party software running on their systems.

[solid hawk]

Smart man. 🙂

[pseudo knoll]

ohh dont give me too much credit, i fully intend to get one

a macbook though, im not replacing my desktop

[solid hawk]

A person with a Mac is like a fish with a bicycle. 🤪

[pseudo knoll]

I have reasons too, like being tired of not HAVING ANY DAMN MAC TESTERS TO TEST MY CHANGES THEN THEY ASK FOR FIXES

[solid hawk]

Understandable

[vale iron]

If there are no testers, do they really need any consideration?

[pseudo knoll]

as much as i agree with that in principle im too nice to do that

as it is im nuking intel mac support

decade-old graphics drivers do NOT lend themselves to emulation very nicely

[solid hawk]

Like VR mods for NMS. I think only one or two long term members of the NMS modding community have VR. When VR players complain, I tell them, YOU buy me a VR setup and I'll be happy to tweak and make mods for VR. As of yet, nobody has taken me up on the offer.

[vale iron]

Ray and who else?

[solid hawk]

No Ray

AyyMang has VR

I think BomberBoi might too

[vale iron]

Ray does, maybe three of them 😉

[solid hawk]

Ray does have VR, like 15 setups, but I'm not counting him. No current working NMS mods.

Only counts if working AND people have access.

Now multiverse is no longer an NMS thing, to my understanding. Spun off into it's own game.

[pseudo knoll]

they were making a mod that got so big it needed to be its own game? sick

[solid hawk]

TBD. 8+ years and counting.

[pseudo knoll]

damn

[vale iron]

Currently it has morphed into some shapes on a planet in UE5

But he enjoys doing it, which is the only reason any of us do any of this

[solid hawk]

I thought it was for the dental plan

[vale iron]

And the 401k matching

[solid hawk]

Don't forget the open bar

[tough warren]

what were those uh optimization mods

someone mentioned something about em

[vale iron]

Grass Fix, not sure what else

[solid hawk]

No grass, not grass fix, for performance issues. #nms-modding message and the message after were the only replies. Honestly, if running really old hardware, your best bet is dialing down detail levels in game options.

Not really any optimizations mods can do with NMS, other than removing things.

[tough warren]

my mods dont work

help

[fresh arch]

http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

see the troubleshooting instructions in this guide

[vale iron]

Thanks, was looking for that 🙂

[fresh arch]

make sure the mod files are unpacked properly, not sitting too deep in MODS folder

[tough warren]

how can something sit too deep into the mods folder

aren't they all in the same folder

[vale iron]

MODS\A\A\METADATA is different from MODS\A\METADATA

Follow troubleshooting and getting help sections of that document

[tough warren]

wait

[fresh arch]

mods downloaded from Nexus often unpack into folder like modname_bunchofnumbersfornoreason

[tough warren]

is it because I placed the file location of nms inside another folder

[fresh arch]

that tells us nothing

[vale iron]

Follow the troubleshooting and getting help sections of that document

[tough warren]

okay

no more metal quest i guess

[vale iron]

I don't understand that at all

[tough warren]

you see

the settlement i activated the drone in has

spiders

and im not going there

[vale iron]

Just...follow the troubleshooting and getting help sections...

[tough warren]

okay

[fresh arch]

post the screenshot of MODS folder, whole explorer window

should be something like this: https://i.imgur.com/ljFZH1B.png

[unborn wing]

Hi there guys. Not sure if this is thr right place to ask but is it possible to get 6 planets in a 5 planet system? Like say, if there is a "shadow" or "glitch" planet that can be warped to using just glyphs? Thanks.

[fair narwhal]

I'm not above committing war crimes however, against npcs

sorry for the shitty music

[fair narwhal]

doing this kinda stuff on a daily basis like i do should have me wanted thruought the whole galaxy

and instead of pirates attacking me , bounty hunters

[vale iron]

It's not difficult or unheard of to have 6 planets in a system, no need for weirdness

[solid hawk]

No, "shadow" planets are not part of the game.

[solid hawk]

<@&590975379678953522> ^ spam attack

[visual shard]

!susmute 1253646928567078924

[hardy aurora]

@visual shard

@flat kernel (amon_quem) muted indefinitely.

[solid hawk]

Thanks

[fair narwhal]

i hope this works

i changed all the shops in game to only sell X class upgrades

hopefully it works

somebody maybe did that before me, but i was workin on it on my own and it includes the nexus "shop" where u usually can only get shitty C and B class stuff from the weird alien

that's IF it works, i do not yet know if it will work

[fair narwhal]

damn it doesnt work

well , i don't care if the mod i posted got deleted, it didn't even work anyway

[cold sequoia]

Hi all how are yous ?

[solid hawk]

Status nominal

[tough warren]

yo uh @fresh arch sorry for the ping but does the mod show scanned spider fauna as grunts too?

[fresh arch]

I dont know I don't use the mod

you still havent shown us if you have it installed or not

[tough warren]

for the good of humanity ill check

I fixed the number issue thing

it was inside a useless folder so I moved it a layer up

[solid hawk]

That is ALWAYS the answer to "Does mod do X?" Don't ask, try and see. Not as though mods cost anything. 🙂

[tough warren]

oh also weird question but

I placed the uh

the folder that contains everything for nms inside another folder

do I gotta move that out of there aswell

[solid hawk]

Do these folder have names? Much easier to comprehend than The thing in the other thing.

[tough warren]

ok

I placed No Man's Sky inside Tree

do i have to move No Man's Sky out of Tree or will it be fine

Tree is a folder

[solid hawk]

Tree must be a folder you created. If you've installed NMS there, then should stay there. If you wish to move your game install, then you'd need to uninstall and reinstall. Just moving the folder will not update existing registry entries for the game.

[tough warren]

oh alright

all my spider discoveries vanished

wow

I think it worked

YEAH

FINALLY I CAN EXPLORE FEARLESSLY

thanks a bunch

wow this thing is strict

it removed my butterfly pet but small price to pay for the greater good

note to self: if a planet is suspiciously empty yet it says it has lots of fauna, leave.

[solid hawk]

If the mod I'm thinking of, removes use of the model file, so yeah would also affect pets.

[tough warren]

its anti phobias

I think its the only mod that does it

[solid hawk]

Yep

So nothing will point to use of the butterfly models anymore, or whatever creature types, based on the version of the mod in use.

[tough warren]

wait hold on

are they invisible or gone

release the spider files!11!

interesting tho W mod

[solid hawk]

Ostensibly gone. Nothing exists without the model.

[tough warren]

oh okay

[solid hawk]

If mod is removed, they'll come back.

[tough warren]

oh yeah

they do seem gone

when I tried to deoloy the butterfly it literally didnt work

even tho theyre gone im still left a bit fearing

anyways time to do the metal quest

yay

[steady ocean]

mod file path for windows ?

[stuck portal]

(wherever you installed your NMS game)\GAMEDATA\MODS

[vestal breach]

Is there anyway to bypass the usual 100 piece part in corvette building with modding

[final hazel]

It's the first mod that appears when searching "Corvette" on https://www.nexusmods.com/games/nomanssky/mods?sort=updatedAt

Please know to disable multiplayer if you make a significantly more complex corvette than normal, so that people in the anomaly don't have an awful time around you

[ruby ermine]

hey guys. how do imod the game, and what performance mods is there?

to like lighten CPU load. i have a i5-4590 and gtx 1060 6gb

[final hazel]

http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550, and there really aren't any significant performance mods at all.

Lowering settings in Options > Display & Graphics is what you would be looking for

[ruby ermine]

is there a mod that adds the like JEI from minecraft? basically a recipe searcher

[final hazel]

No.

Mods are significantly limited, we cannot change major things or add truly new functionality like that

[ruby ermine]

oh

damn

[final hazel]

Browse https://www.nexusmods.com/games/nomanssky/mods?sort=updatedAt, if it doesn't exist currently then it most likely either isn't possible, is too hard to make/fgure out how to make, or just isn't useful enough to have been thought of before

[ruby ermine]

thanks

[solid hawk]

One called No Grass which should give a few FPS on planets. Else, just dialing down the visual quality in game options.

[solid hawk]

Our sole means of increasing performance on potatos is by dialing things back or removing.

Have to keep in mind, the base engine is around 14 years old.

[final hazel]

However that does not mean that a 10-14 year old machine should be expected to run the game well at all

quite the opposite

[solid hawk]

Because lots has been added, over time

[pseudo knoll]

Is it derived from any known engine? Or entirely in-house to Hello Games?

[cobalt condor]

Skyscraper engine. Built by Hello Games, but it's partially cobbled together from various licensed and open source parts

Such as Havok for the physics, Wwise for the audio, Horde3D for rendering

[pseudo knoll]

interesting

[solid hawk]

Yep, another reason making it exceedingly difficult for optimization, cobbled together from disparate components.

[hearty blade]

Finally managed to get my computer fixed, was still having issues with NMS on boot-up, but a bunch of the qol mods I used before seemed to help. I'm guessing the Fine LOD mod and No bloom were the biggest help? The game took a bit longer to load in at the white screen, but when it did all the objects were loaded in and it wasn't laggy. (Before reinstalling the mods the game just hung and struggled to load the world

[hearty blade]

How exactly does that fine-lod mod work? The description seems to say it's speeds things up?

[hearty blade]

I really appreciate these Qol mods, they allow my potato to handle the game better

[cold sequoia]

Wish mods had there own manager app for updating mods through that

[bright fable]

as I understand it basically reduces the polycount of the LOD meshes, meaning the game has to do less rendering each time one of those assets is loaded

[hearty blade]

What's a LOD mesh?

Objects in the distance?

[south orbit]

Load object distance i think

[bright fable]

LOD = Level of Detail

Basically the game has multiple versions of each asset, getting progressively less detailed

the farther away they are, generally the less detailed - to save on performance

[cobalt condor]

Using them improves performance because the game is rendering less polygons at a time, and specifically less polygons that take up tiny portions of the screen

Though Fine LOD I think makes the high quality versions render at further distances? If you're after performance, the game should run better without it

[bright fable]

@carmine surge

the zip you downloaded should contain this folder

put it in your GAMEDATA\MODS

[carmine surge]

Instructions are clear. Still doesn't work

You play before voyagers?

This mod?

I try to found some notebook or something what can block mods

Like description in read me

Or somethin like dissable mods

Nothing exist

@bright fable

[bright fable]

You've got it in the right place

when you load into NMS, do you get the lil "you have mods installed" splash page

?

[carmine surge]

No

Have a idea what can be issue?

[bright fable]

No idea - for me it worked immediately, I loaded into the game and went and bought the Blueprints from the Freighter menu

[carmine surge]

Unfortune...

[fresh arch]

http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

see this article, section on troubleshooting mods

delete the mod settings file and let the game recreate it

[carmine surge]

Delete the Binaries\SETTINGS\GCMODSETTINGS.MXML file. When you launch NMS again, it will recreate the file.
I don't get this section

Where is binaries

[fresh arch]

NMS install directory splits into 2 folders, Binaries and GAMEDATA

you went into GAMEDATA to put the mod files, so you need to track back and go into Binaries instead

[fresh arch]

yeah 1 level higher, go into No Man's Sky, then into Binaries and the rest

[carmine surge]

Oh xD

Wait xD

Works. Thanks

Have a good day

[solid hawk]

They do, you. Go to the applicable mod pages on NexusMods and see if the mods have been updated. 🙂

Could also try Vortex. Works well for some, not for others.

There's also the 3rd party Singularity.

[cold sequoia]

Lol

[cold sequoia]

Whats Vortex ?

[final hazel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/about/vortex

[cold sequoia]

A manage am on about is like Satisfactory mod manager but one for no man's sky

[solid hawk]

No clue about Satisfactory. Vortex or Singularity are the choices for NMS.

[cold sequoia]

Cheers mate ill check this out more

[cold sequoia]

Cheers mate

[fresh arch]

It's worth noting that thanks to changes HG brought to modding system, many mods don't require updating for newer game versions

[cold sequoia]

So true

[fresh arch]

The mods for "popular" game files that control what most people would be interested in modding can be done as EXML patch mods

Those are pretty update resistant, if you build your mod list around those you don't strictly need any mod manager or updater

[cold sequoia]

Mod manager still be nice makes thing more easy just click mod you want it just download straight to Mods folder in NMS folder

[pseudo knoll]

and for having separate profiles

im considering doing something really stupid

[cold sequoia]

And what would that be

[pseudo knoll]

rewriting singularity using C# & Avalonia

lol

just for fun

sounds like it could be interesting, also sounds like it could be hell

[cold sequoia]

Idk what exactly that is

What does it involve m

[mint robin]

Mod conflict causing error message on startup yayyyyy

Time to delete my most recently installed mods and pray it goes away

[final hazel]

There's no mod conflict error

just a crash screen, that will change to "mods might be causing this crash" when mods are installed+enabled

it does not indicate if mods are the cause of the crash are not

[small valve]

I'm seeing some crazy stutters and a few crashes on Win 11 PC with Nvidia -- wondering if it's that little update I hear is causing issues, people rolling it back. Anyone seeing this, have to roll back the update?

Update landed like a week or so ago.

Maybe I hadn't rebooted until moments ago tho.

[solid hawk]

May want to ask in nms-questions. This channel is mod and save-edit specific, not windows update support. Very limited audience.

[steady ocean]

mod to remove corvette build camera distance limit?

[vale iron]

No

[steady ocean]

i dont get how people make them so big then

[hearty blade]

Mods or glitches to exceed the part limit I believe

[vale iron]

And Blender

[steady ocean]

nah ive got mods to exceed the part limit and build space limit, its just the build camera distance limit thats stopping me now

[steady ocean]

i see

[solid hawk]

In 3rd person the mod I told you about elsewhere might help with the build area as well.

[hearty blade]

The z Corvette camera? I use that. I believe it only effects the flight cam? My ship is a large Corvette, without that mod the camera is right up the ship's butt lol

[solid hawk]

Gotcha

This one then:https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3835

[pseudo knoll]

Once I buy an expedition exclusive with Consumerism, is it unlocked on my account as if I had done the expedition normally (and thus, visible for one purchase on new saves)? Or do I need to keep Consumerism installed to see those show up in the quicksilver vendor on new saves?

[viral void]

so I built a corvette like this with a nomad station and a ramp. Cool. Love it, but the problem is I can't get on the nomad. Is there a mod that gets around this?

[final hazel]

No

Mods can't add new functionality like that, unless maybe it's a limitation of it's interaction type or conditions or however that works then maybe

[viral void]

the nomad spawns

its fully there

[final hazel]

Yes, I know.

[vale iron]

Yes

[viral void]

Im imagining some sort of ground condition check

[final hazel]

Exocraft were not designed to be in space, so many bugs arise when near or in space

some of these bugs, like the Minotaur floating in the air bug, affect geobays placed at the surface of Waterworlds or very mountainous purple system worlds as well as space, so it is something that probably should be fixed

[vale iron]

Sorry, that was an "or" question. It's unlocked for your account

[viral void]

ok so at best I can only use this with someone ramping from the ground onto my corvette then

is what you are saying?

[pseudo knoll]

I had a feeling, considering in the "previous expeditions" tab there's a BUNCH of full or partial completions, and I started after Breach's redux last month lol

[final hazel]

Probably, as entering exocraft while in space is probably impossible, besides aboard a freighter with non-minotaur/nautilon ones ime

[viral void]

well heres the issue

its not just space

even If im hovering over land

same issue

i didn't check while landed though

ill do that now

[pseudo knoll]

it probably is some form of is on land check then

[viral void]

i imagine if its on a base object its a no

if its ground ok

but ill test this

but if the baseobject is on ground maybe yes too

of the ship is landed, it works

but

lol

big but

when i get off the exocraft i seem to be falling from my last restore point

so gonna save twice and do it again

does it again

ok interesting to note

[hearty blade]

I've been told that having exocraft pads on your corvette in the nexus can lead to a corrupt save. I'm not sure if it's true, but be careful!

[viral void]

i will not be bringing it into a station

but thank you for the advice

station or anomaly

honestly I just looked at it, and thought, this is probably not a good idea to bring into a station lol

[viral void]

you know what, just in case, im going to remove it since i cant use it where i want to use it

i know now to bring it there, but what if I accidentally summoned it or something

[hearty blade]

I don't know if the satellite dish exocraft pad thing counts, though I worry because I have taken that into the nexus, (before I was told about the potential corruption) .. But it didn't let me summon exocraft on planets anyway, so I also removed it

[viral void]

i was already worried for my other base parts but i checked with someone else, shouldn't be an issue

so it just leaves that

and to be honest, i dont need it

i dont need to risk it

[hearty blade]

I had it onmy ship for the aesthetic... but yeah I took it off just in case

[viral void]

dont need to blow a 400 hour permadeath save on a stupid pranky thing

lol

[hearty blade]

That would be terrible

[cold sequoia]

@vale iron hi mate did you message me ?

[vale iron]

Yeah, sorry, I saw someone else had told you already what I said

[cold sequoia]

I think it was todo with vortex and it auto updates ?

[vale iron]

Yeah, exactly

[cold sequoia]

Awesome

I need to try this

[bright fable]

God I wish this was a naturally occurring Starship

[unique sapphire]

Definitely prefer this over the regular mosquito wings

[solid hawk]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3619

[grim fog]

how i can increase container inventory slots?

[fleet pier]

sup, i heard that you can play old expeditions on your save and still get the rewards payed to your account. how, why, where, i have no clue. pls help

[fresh arch]

if you actually want to replay the expeditions while offline: https://cwmonkey.github.io/nms-expeditions/

if you just want to get rewards, see pinned messages for use of save editors or mods to unlock rewards

[pseudo knoll]

i made a mod with my favorite programming font and i fuck with it heavy

(JetBrains Mono)

[tender sorrel]

Oh thats pretty sweet

[sterile island]

whats the fastest way tio get corvette parts

[shy grove]

You mean via game mods or a save editor?

If not, I'd recommend asking in #nms-questions or #nms-corvette-discussion

[delicate vapor]

someone do mods

[knotty solstice]

Do you guys know any ship expansion packs

[sterile island]

is every s class pistol the same like the normal ones not like the alien ones and stuff like that

[vale iron]

This channel is about modding, mods that you install for the game. I'm not sure why there are so many random questions about gameplay all of the sudden

[ripe path]

damn it I'm getting the mod crash warning post update

[heavy oar]

I mean...

[teal fulcrum]

I did as well. Restarted and it worked fine but a couple of mods caused major flaring issues. I uninstalled !zBest Freighter v6.17 and gShip Corvette Supercomputer and all seems well now

[solid hawk]

It happens. Mods that need updating will start to get updated in 8+ hours

Earliest new mbincompiler will be ready

[teal fulcrum]

Yep, I'm not overly concerned, figured out what was what, removed, and am in playing again

[neat hedge]

is someone aware of what happened to goatfungus save editor? i haven't seen any updates since voyagers

i know they are updated by the people behind the tool, but i haven't seen anything around that explains if something happened

[final hazel]

Probably because no updates were needed

as it has retained full functionality since then

Some new things like corvettes and maybe the new settlements don't work properly with it's UI but that might just not be within the scope of it currently

[neat hedge]

i mean. save editor used to have updates every single time nms got one

the fact it's been 4 months without one, is kinda worrying, not bad i guess, as it works, but the new stuff, like expedition options of new items, arent present

[quasi dust]

hi , would your mod and Gumsks mod work ok together? https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1839?tab=posts his changes predator frequency, yours reduces fauna, i use 10% version

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3668

sorry if its obvious answer its been months since i played and just saw Gumsk returned to updating that mod,was essential for me,but iv grown to find reduced fauna also essential so im hoping both are gona work in combination with each other

[hearty wasp]

!Faq-SaveFiles

[hardy aurora]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:atlasnmscord:1269532093076078658> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

Mac
/Users/<yourname>/Library/Application Support/HelloGames/NMS/st_<your steam ID>/

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[limpid mist]

!faq-crashing

[solid hawk]

Probably yes

Mod authors do not test against other peoples mod. Only way to know for sure is to try and see how it goes. Right now a bad time for that, with the new NMS update out today and mods not being updated (if needed) yet.

[clever holly]

Is anyone else getting flash-banged by an all-white screen when they enter their freighter hanger? I'm trying to figure out if it's an update thing or a mod thing.

Yeah, it definitely feels like some of my mods are screwing with the lighting that must've gotten updated with the Remnants update, but I can't think of any of the mods I have that mess with lighting that I haven't already taken out

[vagrant mulch]

Question, what are the mods for (I'm downloading the game as we speak)

And are they necessary to play the game in a certain way?

[clever holly]

Not really, but they can be used to add or change stuff unofficially.

They tend to only work on the versions found through mainly PC storefronts like Steam, GOG or the MS Store, though.

[quick mural]

could someone let me know if the Expanded Corvette Tech mod still works with this update?

[clear briar]

is there a mod that allows me to change the rotation degrees of build pieces?

[clear briar]

no

[dire bluff]

NoRustyTech not working.. I need to be bougie!!

[solid hawk]

Quite a few mods look to be broken this time around. Best to play without mods for a few days, in order to give authors time to diagnose, fix, and push updates. Right now, we're waiting on out modding tool to decompile game files to get updated. Author is asleep. Once that gets done, mod authors can begin the fixup process.

[solid hawk]

Mods are not necessary, they are optional. Can see what's available here: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/newrecently

Be aware, with the new update today, many mods may be broken. Can take days for authors to get mods updated if the game has made major changes.

[clever holly]

I've noticed, especially since the mods that are broken have a tendency to bathe the area around them in a blinding white light. Thankfully I've deleted all the mods that give that broken lighting.

[pseudo knoll]

ugh, update killed 2 of my favorite mods, signal booster firmware upgrade and enjoyable quicksilver,

[quasi garden]

Im waiting for a couple mods to update

[fresh arch]

sadly y'all will have to wait a bit longer

we're still waiting for the basic modding tools to be updated for latest game version

[quasi garden]

:(

[pseudo knoll]

why did this update kill so many mods LOL

[quasi garden]

I just want the new outfit

Hate exped locked cosmetics

[teal fulcrum]

Luckily the mods I use, that aren't working, are QOL mods. I disable them, play, and wait for the authors to make some updates.

[fresh arch]

because HG doesnt care about mods like we do

NMS is their product, they can change it however they please

They decided to rework anything that shines light in game, we have to adapt or play vanilla

[fresh arch]

Once there's new version of Consumerism it should be fine to download and use

Its EXML based so there shouldn't be any problems

[pseudo knoll]

agreed, i do the same with my projects, that wasnt my question but okay

[fresh arch]

then what was the question? you want to know technical details why mods stopped working like they should?

[pseudo knoll]

im literally just wondering out loud how this broke things that seem unrelated, such as a rewardtable file

thats it

[fresh arch]

wut reward table got borked?

[pseudo knoll]

dont remember i got rid of the mod

i went through and deleted all the mods that produced errors in AMUMSS just so i could play the game lol

i booted it with my mod list unchanged from yesterday and my whole fucking inventory looked gone

[fresh arch]

like this?

[pseudo knoll]

pretty sure it wasnt but still, i needed to fix that even if it didnt delete everything cuz i couldnt see it

yes that + cargo that HAD things in it looked like locked slots

[quasi garden]

Thats what im waiting for to update :)

[fresh arch]

anything that touches on UI/COMPONENTS/INVENTORY/SQU_SLOT.MBIN is a culprit

for me it was Lo2k's Darkless Icons mod

had to yeet it out

[pseudo knoll]

yeah i had a borderless icon mod

im really sad too cuz with my font mod it made the UI look really different

[pseudo knoll]

i LOVE the look of this lol

[fresh arch]

anyway not the first, not the last time update breaks mods

just have to wait for new version of MBIN Compiler and then mod authors can start figuring out what changed, what needs to be addressed

[solid hawk]

Which will both get updated in the coming days

[thorny quiver]

Did they @ everyone or smth? why do I have pings suddenly. lol

[thorny tide]

reported

[glad dew]

baddie bots

[thorny quiver]

I figured, but I have @ everyone pings and notifs turned off, so I didn't know if I personally got pinged or a role ping. jut curious lol

[frank bridge]

Has someone already made the gravity gun yeet stuff way further than it usually does?

[tacit rune]

Yo did anyone else get pinged

[pseudo knoll]

yeah all 2k people with the Game Night role did, a spambot pinged it

[solid hawk]

Nobody has done anything with the new stuff. Too soon, give it a few days

We don't have a working decompiler yet

[jaunty prairie]

Will these too mods work well together i cant check bc I dont have anything to play on rn https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3701
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3736

[final hazel]

They do completely separate things, meaning they will both work when installed alongside each other #nms-modding message

actually wait

[jaunty prairie]

Thanks

.

[final hazel]

the first one just does the second one but with way higher numbers and the complexity limit increased to functionally infinity

So you can just install the first one

[jaunty prairie]

Okay thanks

Does that mod also allow more building or do I have to find something else

[final hazel]

Define "more building"

It enables you to build corvettes in the corvette editor using more than 100 total corvette modules per ship

[jaunty prairie]

Okay

[steady ocean]

if u wanna build sm like this lmk

[final hazel]

If you mean is there a mod that allows you to build regular base objects on/within a corvette, https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1096

though this could require updating, as the update today has broken a lot of specific things

[jaunty prairie]

I wont be able to play for a couple days anyway

Thanks for the help:)

[spare linden]

how do I get the game to stop remaking the modsettings file?

[visual tapir]

“Capital class ship detected.”

[final hazel]

It will never stop doing that. Why would you want that?

[spare linden]

I'm being told to delete it

[final hazel]

By who?

Deleting it is indeed a troubleshooting step though, so that it regenerates with defaults

[spare linden]

and it won't let the game load

[final hazel]

Does the game crash when you open it? If so, you may have some outdated mods that are preventing the game from opening

Instead of deleting GCMODSETTINGS.MXML (which is usually a step to re-enable mods), try either relocating all folders within GAMEDATA/MODS, or open GCMODSETTINGS.MXML with any text editor and changing DisableAllMods to true

The game sometimes sets DisableAllMods to true on it's own after certain crashes, or prompts you with the option to do so. Deleting GCMODSETTINGS.MXML and opening the game regenerates the file with defaults, including DisableAllMods = false

[spare linden]

what do you mean by relocate?

also the game has disable all mods on false rn

[final hazel]

Move the folders, using any file explorer/browsing software, such as Windows Explorer

[final hazel]

That means that mods are not disabled.

[spare linden]

so I move the content of the mod to a new file?

[final hazel]

Within a different folder, yes. Even one within GAMEDATA/MODS would work, as the game does not seek core mod folders that are too deep

[spare linden]

still coming up with the same error

and crash

[final hazel]

And you have relocated all of the mods within GAMEDATA/MODS, and/or have set DisableAllMods to true?

[cursive prism]

What the hell was that ping?

[spare linden]

Yeah

[final hazel]

!hg @spare linden

[hardy aurora]

@spare linden
Submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[spare linden]

It sends this btw when I check in the events

[final hazel]

If you followed what I said correctly, I'm genuinely not sure what to do, other than deleting TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS.MXML or following other crash info, or fully deleting GAMEDATA/MODS

[final hazel]

We are not Hello Games, we don't know what this means at all.

Nobody in this discord server does.

[spare linden]

I might try that

[final hazel]

You also could try verifying files, if on Steam

[spare linden]

takes way too long

and didn't really work

[final hazel]

Deleting the MODS folder at GAMEDATA/MODS, or deleting the graphics settings file at BINARIES/SETTINGS/TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS.MXML should be surefire ways to make everything work again. If that and verifying files don't work, post in https://discord.com/channels/146101654981312513/964865106334875698

[spare linden]

Okay booting up amber isle seemingly fixed it :/

I assume a mix of that and using a diff steam game is what worked

[spice sedge]

could somebody tell me how i could start installing mods? i dunno what im doing and im just using vortex and nothing is working

[bright fable]

not a great day to get into it since the update did break some mods and there's not really a consensus on what has and hasnt survived

[fair narwhal]

https://www.nexusmods.com/profile/Yuutaka33 can I have modder role now

[jade laurel]

Does the goatfungus save editor have the atlas themed corvette parts yet

[fair narwhal]

Yea

[jade laurel]

k

thanks

i mised that expedition and i wanted the parts BADDLY

[jade laurel]

i cant find them

[final hazel]

I think you have to either add them manually via json editing, or just claim them using a mod

Maybe nomnom has the updated item and expedition things, idk

[wet valley]

Do we have a list of confirmed big name broken mods

Or is it just "figure it out"

[quasi dust]

haha ye worst time, but i think as their exml it should be ok ,il test anyway after the potential update hotfix

[nimble narwhal]

It’s not really about the game. It’s about something else so the thing nomnom I am trying to transfer my save for my Xbox game pass to my steam account I’ve done everything right but for some reason it still is Greyed out when I try to transfer the save

[graceful fiber]

are any of the editors updated yet?

[nimble narwhal]

That’s probably why I’m new to this. Sorry about that.

[vale iron]

I don't know what impact that will have, if any, but I don't think they are updated

[nimble narwhal]

I mean, I literally watched a bunch of videos on it. Did it exactly how I was supposed to? I’m assuming it’s something to do with it

[vale iron]

Anything with a SCENE file is likely creating a blazing light

[wet valley]

Yeah i realized after a sec its likely a mod, seems to be either better broken overload slots, better firgate view, better deposit colours, or better pulsedrive anima or all of them

[vale iron]

We just got the new compiler like an hour ago, so will take some time

[wet valley]

If its deposit colours im gonna have to poke the dev because that mod lets me actually distinguish the ores

Welp time to poke them

Ah its an lo2k mod and theyre already aware

[fierce rapids]

hi all. I have not played in many many many months. How do I install updated mods so I can play once more?

[fresh arch]

see this article: http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

[solid hawk]

Be aware, todays game update broke a significant amount of mods and it may take days to weeks for authors to get their broken mods updated.

[stuck portal]

Yeah, one of the mods I am using makes everything look like 255-255-255 RGB white lol