nms-modding

[solid hawk]

Definately a necessity to combine multiple mods only provided in "old" MBIN full file replacement format

[pure mulch]

I think 1st mod Gix introduced me to was Gumsks freighter lighting mod, or maybe more traders mod when it was just freighter lighting

[solid hawk]

For myself, I will still provide Luas with all of my mods, once I can get them updated with necessary changes.

[dusk saffron]

yeah, more traders really helped for catching exotics, too

[solid hawk]

We're getting close to MBINCompiler being updated for 5.5x. Which is the fundation piece for most mods to get updated.

[vale iron]

I'm working on more traders at this very second

Just not sure if it will work right since it has a table entry

[reef stirrup]

Looks like I may have lost the freighter, which will be the biggest hit I've ever taken with an update. I can see it on the resource page, but when I call for it it crashes the game, hard. I get a token but had to force quit NMS. Save wasn't hurt. Ticket to HG but not holding my breath... I'm going to build some storage on a base to see if I lost all the resources too. 😦

[dusk saffron]

I quit chasing exotics over a year ago when stobbsy humiliated me so badly, finding squids by the hour

[vale iron]

Were you or are you using any mods? If so, which

HG won't help you with anything mod related

[hearty wasp]

The most important mod I have ever made has been updated
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/824

[quasi plume]

yeah this save editor is just nto working for twitch rewards sadly

[reef stirrup]

Nope, All mods off.

Just built storage boxes and all the resources are intact. I have the freighter backed up so no big deal. I'll wait until the dust settles (and Goat Fungus is updated) to bring her back.

[echo brook]

can someone tell me where u put the MODS folder now?

[solid hawk]

GAMEDATA\MODS

NO mods updated or created prior to 29 Jan 2025 will work. NONE

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/newrecently?page=1

Those that have already been updated provide instructions for placement and usage.

[echo brook]

ok thanks

[cerulean lodge]

Gonna add ^TGA_SHIP01 to UnlockedSpecials as soon as I can. Only one way to find out if it works.

And if it does work… that just leaves tricking the game into thinking I have the Limited Edition.

[frigid grove]

Yeah I wonder what will happen. The game has to be looking in two different places to know if you are allowed to get it (either a different json file or maybe some cached platform file or something). It'll be interesting to see if one works without the other, but according to the comments on that mod it should continue to work account-wide (people said they could claim it after uninstalling the mod).

[cerulean lodge]

I know that with the similar Sentinel Player Ship mod, which gave the “OG Dorito”, it would apparently work just fine for my save file after I uninstalled the mod, but it would corrupt other people’s save files.

[hardy aurora]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[pure mulch]

Do you now put the whole unzipped folder now?

[toxic barn]

sorry for asking again, but if i wanted to update my mods, i do have to wait for the MBINCompiler to update, correct?

[pure mulch]

@solid hawk disregard last question, I scrolled up and didnt put folder in new mod location. Works now, and updated one, using one of Gumsk's updated ones as a template 🙂

[solid hawk]

As end user player, you've no chance of updating mods back to useability yourself.

Will need to wait for mod authors to update.

MBINCompiler is juist the first step in a long process chain. MBINCompiler was updated already, a few hours ago.

If you use Luas normally, AMUMSS still needs to be updated to work with the new system. We quashed a couple of bugs in it tonight, but still a ways to go before it's fully updated and ready for release.

Then, most mod Luas are going to require significant surgery to be useable again, due to the thousands of property name changes in the game files this update.

[vale iron]

Yes, have to be able to convert from MBIN to MXML (used to be EXML). I think there might be a mostly functional version coming within a day or two.

[toxic barn]

ah, i forgot to mention, i also have a single mod that I've published to nexus. so basically when i have the old LUA file, do I need to modify it?

speaking of property changes, which program do i need to use if I want to see all of the properties? kind of end with "explorer" or something like that

[toxic barn]

so i could expect to mod again in a few days, yes?

[vale iron]

When mbin compiler and AMUMSS get updated, you can use AMUMSS PC Banks Explorer to browse the functions. NMSMB is better for browsing stuff, though

I wouldn't expect a few days, but mbin compiler will probably have an update by then. Getting everything updated may take longer

[toxic barn]

alright, gotcha, thanks for the info and also reminding the "PC Banks Explorer" tools too

[vale iron]

I'm not sure what the expected timeline is on AMUMSS, but I know it's being worked on

[wraith osprey]

HG mentioned a new mod settings file, where is that exactly? o3o

some mods come with folders and such with an EXML file in it. do i drop the folder, for example "Globals" into the mods folder, or just the EXML?

[vale iron]

Put the whole mod folder in MODS, not the subfolders

[wraith osprey]

alright

might be good to make a new Pin here that explains the new modding system, would save the awkward repeat questions :P

[vale iron]

Very unlikely to stop them, unfortunately 😄 You should see some of the conversations I've had

[wraith osprey]

it would have stopped me at least xD

[vale iron]

I made a document for the basics of making new mods, but not for installing mods

[toxic barn]

where can i read this?

[vale iron]

https://tinyurl.com/NMSModding550

[toxic barn]

thank you again

[vale iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3295

[marsh eagle]

Very cool, so they just converted some phantom systems to purple right. Do we have numbers/percentage?

[vale iron]

System index 21 and higher has purple, I think.

[marsh eagle]

phantom systems usually start at systemindex 250-650. 21 means old systems got converted

[vale iron]

Hmm, I could be wrong or it might be a modifier of some kind? I just saw it in the globals. One sec

Ah, here we go. Maybe this is the index where they start putting the new terrain in existing systems?
<Property name="TerrainPurpleSystemIndexStart" value="21" />

End of TerrainGlobals

[steel crypt]

That might refer to the location / sections in the voxelgen file.

[dull breach]

guys how do I install new mods m confused 😕

[vale iron]

Put folder in GAMEDATA\MODS

[dull breach]

I downloaded yo mods but can't run em screenshot plz

[vale iron]

I don't have time for that, sorry

[dull breach]

can anybody who is willing make a video on how to mod NMS kinda sucks having for mods to be updated n I Wana make a super mod

[hearty wasp]

elaborate on "can't run em"

[dusk saffron]

so I loaded "Faster Movement" folder into Gamedata/Mods folder and it works

[dull breach]

as in I don't know where to put em or how Shud I put from GLOBAL folder or from mod name folder?

do I unzip it or?

[hearty wasp]

unzip the entire mod folder into GAMEDATA/MODS

[dull breach]

like this?

[hearty wasp]

GAMEDATA/MODS as I said

and as gumsk said as well

and as Gix's screenshot

[dull breach]

ohh the mod folder moved i see now thnxx guys @vale iron u suck but yo mods dont

[dusk saffron]

Gumsk is one of the nicest guys around, he is busy trying to keep players happy

[hearty wasp]

he also gave you the directory which you ignored

[dull breach]

i thought it ddnt chnge hence why it w@s ignored my b@d

but guys i @lso w@n@ be modder @ny in depth guide bwt it or vid

[vale iron]

It's confusing since it's a new change, but I updated two mods in the time it took to work that out. I can't get mods updated if I spend time helping everyone more than just "GAMEDATA\MODS"

#nms-modding message

[dull breach]

ok @vale iron nice flex

[vale iron]

And stepnotifications but the information will be out of date

[dull breach]

i @lso w@n@ be like u wud u mind helping wen u @re free

mking mods tht is?

[dusk saffron]

what is wrong with your a key?

[dull breach]

dont work

so ye@

[fervent pine]

Is there a way to convert old mods that worked with a lua to the new format?

[vale iron]

When everything settles down I'll answer questions. Most of us will, but most of us are really busy right now

[hearty wasp]

not atm since AMUMSS (which handles luas) also needs to be updated

come back in a week or two after work has been done

[fervent pine]

Ok no problem I will patiently wait

[vale iron]

If it's one of mine, let me know so I can put it on my list

[dull breach]

ok no prob c@n i @dd u s friend so u c@n let me kno wen things hve setteld down so i dont bug u n stuff

[fervent pine]

No I was asking a more general question, but thank you very much for the time you are putting into this!

[vale iron]

Just check back here in a week or two and ping me. I'll let you know if I have time 🙂

[dull breach]

or if theres @ vid u kno bwt tht i cn juss wtch

[hearty wasp]

no

there is not

[dull breach]

hmm i see thnx @ny God teir modder juss kno @ video will be @ppreci@ted

[fresh arch]

No active modder will have any time to show you the ropes

They are all busy working on their own mod collections

Please understand that and stop demanding people to put all that aside just to cater to you

[reef stirrup]

While mods were off, the freighter bridge had mods as I wasn’t able to undo them before the update. Does that mean that the freighter is cooked for good? Even my backup for the freighter has those mods, so it will have the same problem if restored. Now I’m depressed.

[vale iron]

Probably recoverable, just helps to know that. What kind of mod were you using

[reef stirrup]

Had a mod for a save point that made it a planetary scanner, a short range teleporter, a chair, and a wonder projector.

[vale iron]

Ahh I think I know. To be honest I don't think that would screw up anything. If it was using the save point object then it wouldn't have an invalid item in the base data

[reef stirrup]

So thanks for the purple planet mod. Is it only good for use in the galaxy map? I tried using a portal to get to a purple planet and it still comes up with the Atlas error and says it will approximate the location, which isn't the purple planet.

[vale iron]

Yeah it's only for the map. I didn't know portals were blocked. I'll have to see if there's an override for that

[flat ruin]

I want to thank Lo2k for their amazing mods and hasty updates.

God bless.

[trim bough]

does amumss need to updated?

did the update break everything?

[hearty wasp]

yes

yes

[trim bough]

fudge

my build bat file wont compile at all

or prompt to. its been so long since ive revisited this

[ocean prairie]

Are most mods broken with the new update?

[hearty wasp]

which is the reason it needs to be updated

[hearty wasp]

all not most

[trim bough]

saying something like AMUMSS is on desktop etc etc

[ocean prairie]

Ok ill wait for a week before i check mods i guess, probably few hotfixes etc, thanks

[hearty wasp]

yeah you should try to follow the instructions

[trim bough]

its been so long, that message is all new to me

[hearty wasp]

cool

[dusk saffron]

click on updated filter at nexus mods and anything after jan 29

including 29th

[rigid gust]

Directed here. On PC, is it possible to use a save editor to bypass the Atlas and Autophage quests to be able to play the new update?

I have done them on an old computer. They were boring, long, and I don't want to redo them. But I am locked out of the new content on my current file without doing them. Was hoping I could just set a flag somewhere, or give me an item to see purple systems.

[pure mulch]

I believe there is a guide on creative and sharing discord

[hearty wasp]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[pure mulch]

Ive read it but never tried/used it

[rigid gust]

Thank you, I was looking for it when you sent it.

Dunno why NMS suddenly became a linear story-based game, but I'm not exactly down. Hopefully the restriction is removed sooner rather than later. In the meantime, off to play with a save editor

[pure mulch]

i think its a good thing, you just have to look at living ships and 2 day old people asking about them, when they are supposed to be end game

[hearty wasp]

it's not really that suddenly tbh

been going that way since artemis path came out

[rigid gust]

Eh, I have like ~120 hours on this save, I just never did the story quests because I don't like them and I did them before. Also it looks like you can only edit mission progress on a fresh save 😦

[pure mulch]

Dont get me wrong once you have completed all on 1 save, i think it should unlock a feature in custom mode to bypass it on future saves

[rigid gust]

My old saves were on a different harddrive though, so it still wouldn't help

Should just be able to craft a hyperdrive to visit purple systems whenever. Make it require late game materials if you want to gate it.

[dusk saffron]

sometimes it takes more time to find a way to not do something than just do it

[pure mulch]

These days, i just clone a save thats done all quest stuff

and delete stuff i dont want on clone

like ships or bases

[rigid gust]

From where I am, I expect the quests to take me another 12 hours. I'm making progress with save editing and I've spent 20 minutes on it. Not bad

[dusk saffron]

12 hours? Are you playing on foot?

[pure mulch]

Sometimes you just have to bite the lip and do the content, despite how much you detest it. I recently moved my Legacy save (that I hadnt played for 3 or so years) from console to PC with an active Starbirth quest.....

[dusk saffron]

I've tested some early game stuff changing values in the MissionProgress section, and it is like some Rubik's puzzle LOL

[wraith rain]

So, mods are completely dead, right? I can't just plug my .lua files into AMUMSS and be good to go again?

[fresh arch]

Nope, AMUMSS needs to be updated as well

[wraith rain]

Ah, okay. I figured as much, but I just wanted to be sure.

[hearty wasp]

if you mean "completely dead" by having mods already updated on Nexus then yes

otherwise the news of its death may be exaggerated

[bronze drum]

the exml file isnt loading in game idk why someone help plz

[fresh arch]

Wrong folder

Is gamedata mods now

Also you need a subfolder for the actual mod

[bronze drum]

bruh i never knew that

[fresh arch]

Whatever mod you got there should have the new installation instructions provided

[bronze drum]

like this?

[fresh arch]

Cause only a handful of people updated and at least 2 of them are modding veterans

And I'm sure they provided the instructions

[bronze drum]

okok

tysm

bruh still not working

nvm

[woeful crypt]

The new mod path No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\MODS will not load .pak files at all?
Putting .paks in the old mod path No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS\MODS no longer does anything right?

[hearty wasp]

yes

[lime mesa]

Modding is so much easier now as long as you know what is what. I constructed an exml in notepad by hand changing the galaxy map star colors using reference to the old mod and it worked. Now what I wanna do is brighten the planets. I bet that is a shader. Shaders I can handle. The water color from space is WAY too black. Looks terrible & some planets are really dark. Where are the shaders located for planets rendered in space? Or would it just be better to ask someone else to do it lol?

[vale iron]

Shaders don't have any documentation and at least used to not have clear text properties

[hearty wasp]

I love how people think exml is easy now

[vale iron]

Yeah I did all my modding in text before. Granted, you don't have to compile or run AMUMSS, so a little easier

[hearty wasp]

and they're also editing globals

I'm happy it's easy on those fronts at least tho

more is still good

[vale iron]

Yeah, those are definitely the easy uses

[lime mesa]

(E)XML is crap I always hated it and idk why they didn't use a scripting language like lua or python in the first place but yeah I find it easier to mod the game now that I dont have to eyeball miles of xml code to find what I want to edit

[vale iron]

You haven't looked outside globals I guess?

[rapid sandal]

can always view the mbin's in nmsmb ebin format. it doesn't have any of the xml cruft: https://github.com/cmkushnir/NMSModBuilder/blob/main/Doc/Tab/PakItems/Readme.md
it also decompiles the shader spv's to view if you want ... will have to wait a few more days to get an updated version that works with 5.5x.

[lime mesa]

I have I used to mod this game more ages back, mostly color tables. Trying to see how much color I could add to the game etc. I made a color table exml generator in c++. It was for Atlas Rises but it was for personal use. I think I still have the files around somewhere lol

[lime mesa]

I'll bookmark this, thanks!

[vale iron]

Surely you've seen that, outside of globals, you definitely do have to look over miles of xml. That hasn't changed.

[lime mesa]

Well what I'm meaning is you no longer have to use the entire file, you can paste sections of the file, only those sections you are editing, yes complete sections sometimes which might include many lines but it just seems easier to deal with a small block of code. So you are not constantly viewing the entire file, just a section. Plus it allows mixing of mods, other ppl who want to edit the same file no longer have to merge them. Still seems easier to me then the old way.

[wheat oxide]

Did the recent updated change modding alot?

[pure mulch]

Totally different

Not using same location for starters

[dusk saffron]

have to read new instructions to make them work.... go figure 🙂

[pure mulch]

I want instructions how to change from lua to whatever using now 😬 preferably step by step in simple English a 50 year old can understand

[vale iron]

You don't need to change from Lua, just that some mods are better as EXML patches

AMUMSS will update soon

[pure mulch]

The 1 mod I've updated, I changed 2 words from one of Gumsks 😆

[vale iron]

It's been like 36 hours

[hearty wasp]

you'd just be manually doing AMUMSS's job

you search for the key words manually in mxml

find the right section of code

and then replace the values of the targeted parameters

delete unchanged code while maintaining data structure of the edited snippets

change file exntesion to exml

done

[pure mulch]

I said simple English a 50 year old can understand 😆

[hearty wasp]

copy term in PRECEDING_KEY_WORDS/SPECIAL_KEY_WORDS

search for term in MXML file

copy term in VALUE_CHANGE_TABLE

paste term in value field

delete unchanged code

[hearty wasp]

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ARE YOU AS CONFUSED AS I AM BECAUSE THE TITAN HAS CLEARLY WOKEN YEARS AGO BUT NOW WE NEED AN ENTIRE EXPEDITION ABOUT IT?
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https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062

[strange nebula]

Anyone know of a mod that completes all quests so i can play with the new Worlds II update?>

[vale iron]

There isn't one. Usually quests are done in save editor

[strange nebula]

Thats what I was trying to figure out. Im assuming theres no sure way to do this other than manually?

[vale iron]

There might be a way, but no one has done exactly that and it's not on the top of my list

[paper ravine]

Is anyone getting mod incompatibilities warnings with the new update? I have no mods installed

[vale iron]

Those are sometimes false positives, a generic error message

[toxic barn]

phew, finally i can manually update my mod (https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3095)

thanks @vale iron for the info!

[vale iron]

"NMS Modding after 5.50" document updated to include mod installation and troubleshooting information.
http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

<@&590975379678953522> Could we get that pinned, please?

[vale iron]

Thank you!

[timid burrow]

Anytime 🙂

[dull breach]

morning guys a 5GB update dropped so does that mean I have to wait for mods to get updated again or Nah? 😕

[vale iron]

Depends on the type of mod. EXML patch mods should be fine

[toxic barn]

probably no need to update

most of it

[vale iron]

MBIN replacement mods could have problems if they modified one of the updated files

[toxic barn]

@vale iron since we can directly edit the .exml, does that mean that if we want to further customize the mod, we can just straight edit the .exml?

no need to build with lua and thingamajig?

[vale iron]

For an EXML mod, yes, you can just edit the EXML

[toxic barn]

great, thanks, here's a thumbs up since i can't give a react 👍

[vale iron]

hah, thanks

[next leaf]

Could anyone help me find the mission progress in JSON editor by chance? Trying to skip in the Trace of Metal quest but can't find the right text

Much appreciated!

[fresh arch]

Why you want to skip it?

Its not needed for Echoes nor WP2 missions

!faq-purplesystems

[hardy aurora]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

Worlds Part 2 Content

How to get started...

📖 Warning: Purple systems are end-game content so you must finish certain quests before you can access them.

1. Complete the Artemis Path (the main story of the game).
   -# > !faq-artemispath in #bot-spam shows the steps.
2. Atlas Eternal must show in your mission log, once Atlas Path is completed.
3. Find a Harmonic Camp and release the multi-tool seal.
   -# > !faq-interceptor in #bot-spam shows how to find them.
4. Warp to trigger: They Who Returned and complete the Autophage missions.
5. Return to space and pulse until hailed.
6. New mission: In Stellar Multitudes should trigger.
7. Finish the mission to reveal all purple systems on the galaxy map.

These are the known steps as of update 5.5 Worlds Pt II (<t:1738163940:D>) and are subject to change.
-# See patch notes »

Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[next leaf]

I've had people tell me it is and tell me it isnt, I don't know anymore. I can't get the next questline to trigger but I've done the Atlas path and the Sentinel Interceptor. Did I miss a different mission?

[fresh arch]

You need Artemis Path first

Upload a screenshot of whole mission log page to #nms-questions channel

[ionic plinth]

Any save editors updated?

[fallow meadow]

Not just yet, that I am aware of. Keep an eye out on their download location (NexusMods/Github)

[stark iris]

Hello, I don't do modding but I'm curious about one thing, is it possible to see how the terrain generation works? (Like a 3d visual or something?) To see the difference between Before world part 1, and the arrival of world part 2 on the new planets?

[fallow meadow]

Too specific for any tool to reproduce as this is part of the executable. You'd have to compare visuals between in-game versions

[stark iris]

Ooh ok, thanks you !

[dusk saffron]

Goatfungus has not been updated, but seems to be working fine if you are not looking for new rewards.

[ionic plinth]

Wish a fast refiners mod was updated

[hearty wasp]

keep wishing

[dusk saffron]

I'm amazed how many mods have already shown up on Nexus since this huge update with the changes for modders

[vale iron]

I'm working on it right now

I took a break to unpack and decompile the latest experimental

[civic pumice]

@vale iron @strange nebula - how is this done using save editor? Like Nom Nom?
I am stuck on the "Trace of Metal" quest where I need to present the robot brain to the space anomaly - game just hangs on the conversation. I even tried re-adding all of the components to my inventory (that was a solution Reddit offered). Thoughts?

[upper rose]

do I have to do something specific to get "launch costs" mod to work? I put both the lua and the pak file in my "mods" folder and it didn't do anything

only other mod I have is the fast actions one

[hearty wasp]

yeah you wait for it to be updated

[upper rose]

ah. didn't realize that would be an issue

🤷‍♂️ oh well

[dusk saffron]

Using mods one should be aware that updates in the game will most likely mean your mods need to be updated.

[upper rose]

I installed it today

🤣

[dusk saffron]

luas and paks arent used now

[upper rose]

again, oh well 🤷‍♂️

huh

[vale iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3309/

[weak veldt]

good morning everyone, since the update is there a functioning save editor?

[hearty wasp]

not unless you're into editng json files

[weak veldt]

ok, TY 🙂 before the update what was the best one to use?

[hearty wasp]

there are only 2

so yes

#nms-modding message

[tidal smelt]

Hey guys, I was trying to use analogue voice mod, but it's a pak file, any idea if those still work?

[hearty wasp]

no

no pak will work

[tidal smelt]

I see, thanks

[vale iron]

Since most of the audio authors are not active, you probably want to try to figure it out for yourself. It might work if you use an older version of MBIN Compiler to unpack the PAK file into a folder structure, then put that folder into GAMEDATA\MODS. Be warned that the experienced modders are busy learning the new system and updating their mods, so you want get much hand-holding

[tidal smelt]

I did that a few times to make an old voice pack useable, I can give it a try, thanks!

Yep! That did it, unpacked it with psarc, made a folder with the name of the mod in GAMEDATA/MODS and put the unpacked audio folder in it

[reef stirrup]

Is Goat Fungus safe for live JSON editing?

[vale iron]

Can't promise, but I did it on experimental without problems, and I think some people have on public.

[reef stirrup]

I'm going in to cut out the bridge mods...🤞

[weak veldt]

I know this has probably been asked, and this is probably not the correct place to ask. Any idea when it will be updated? or where to go to get that info?

[hearty wasp]

when it's done

not sure if there're commands linking to their perspective discords but maybe check the github

[weak veldt]

thank you fine person 🙂

[dusk saffron]

I've been using goatfungus since yesterday without any issues

[heady prawn]

Hi, I want to use AHK to mod my NMS so that it doesnt pause when i alt-tab. Can someone please run me through how i should do this?

[hearty wasp]

wasn't there one years ago and then didn't work anymore

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyMods/comments/l0cihr/using_autohotkey_to_mod_your_nms_experience/

[heady prawn]

no i mean like, i dont even know where to begin. all i've done so far is to download AHK and thats it

[hearty wasp]

just read the reddit post and go from there

[timid peak]

Hello i need help with the (goatfungus) save editor i am trying to replace the raw .json (generated from creature builder website). Everything is fine when i log in to the game i can make the sandworm spawn but it start spinning around and despawn. What am i doing wrong? Thank you have a nice day))

edit. now when i m going to edit the raw json the save game keep resetting and nothing is changed its like the save got resetted and i still have my spinning giant worm

[hearty wasp]

turn off steam cloud if you have it on

[fallow meadow]

Alternative Vehicle Control - Updated to Worlds Part II (5.50+)
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2848

[timid peak]

i turned steam cloud off and it doesnt change maybe it s the save editor resetting the save

[hearty wasp]

it can happen but is unlikely

[dusk saffron]

do you log out of the game when you edit?

[hearty wasp]

make sure you are saving edit by clicking the save button in the GUI after making the edit

[fallow meadow]

@timid peak Do make sure to actually edit the last save, which is either auto or manual. If you edited the manual save and the game then creates an auto save after, you are likely still editing the manual save, while the game forces the auto save to load. I recommend switching the selected slot to a different and back to make sure the save editor updates to edit the latest save.

(this is actually a NMSSE specific issue, as it does not correctly update with the game upon saving)

[dusk saffron]

I had that happen, had me flustered for a min

[timid peak]

there are 2 files i m editing save3.hg then i press "save changes" but when i go in game nothing changed and that s strange cause it happen to work and sudden it bugged

[steep stag]

how do i get mods to work ? since the update all mods i want to install dont work

even if they are updated

hello?

[fallow meadow]

The way to mod has changed, make sure to check you are doing things correctly and make sure the mods used are also updated. See the pin here for further info: #nms-modding message

[timid peak]

I think i m missing someting but i found a way to make it work now the real question is why the sandworm is spinning around and disappearing? i used the creature build webiste .json and tried with the service bot too (pet egg delivery) help(( i just want a normal giant sandworm

[steep stag]

this correct path now?

[hearty wasp]

yes

[steep stag]

ok

can i delete the old folder?

[fallow meadow]

If it does spawn initially, I doubt it has anything to do with the save editor, although it could be due to values it may not like? This seems to be due to the new Worlds Part II update. Values I would be thinking of, may be related to speed, movement, or something else similar. Just like having too high a maneuverability speed for ship can cause such spinning issues. I am not savvy enough with pets to know what causes it, but I suggest looking into this. I suggest asking around in the Creative Sharing Discord.

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[steep stag]

.

[fallow meadow]

Yes, the old folder within PCBANKS can be removed

[timid peak]

thank you so much man i ll go askin in to the other discord have a nice day))

[cunning sinew]

dont you haveta pay for this?

[hearty wasp]

You don't need to pay to talk, no

[cunning sinew]

not what i mean

for the custom ships

[vale iron]

That's not all they do

Most save edit people hang out there

[hearty wasp]

They're not looking for custom ships so it's not really relevant

[cunning sinew]

ok well i didnt read the previous convo i just saw that and asked about it

[hearty wasp]

Fair and fine

[sullen pier]

so, how do we get the mods working now?

deleted the text file, extracted the files into the MODS folder. I receive the warning about mods starting the game but NONE of them are working at all.

I also checked the NEW file GCMODSETTINGS.MXML

the game just ignores everything in the MODS folder

need the mods to FIX BS in the base game, like the five-week wait to activate anything in the game

All the mods have these instructions now, and IT DOES NOT WORK
`Installation :

• remove or rename DISABLEMODS.TXT file from PCBANKS folder if present (I rename it into ENABLEMODS.TXT)
• create a MODS folder into \Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA folder
• copy/paste included mod folder into this MODS folder`

[knotty sphinx]

Thanks modders for your patience with all the crazy entitlement lately ❤️

[clever holly]

Weird, I don't see a DISABLEMODS.txt in the PCBANKS folder

[sullen pier]

yup, none of the mods are working at all, the game is completely ignoring them.

[hearty wasp]

prolly old mod

[hearty wasp]

doesn't matter now

[clever holly]

Weird, the mods I installed are working for me.

[sullen pier]

deleted ALL the mods, got the latest versions, and it does not work

[pure mulch]

Need a Faq-modding

[sullen pier]

the game is simply ignoring them

They changed something

[clever holly]

Are you sure you renamed or deleted DISABLEMODS.txt?

[hearty wasp]

define "latest"

[sullen pier]

I deleted that file completely

[hearty wasp]

the mod was updated when

[sullen pier]

this is ALL MODS, not one mod

[hearty wasp]

doesn't matter

you can download many old broken mods on Nexus

[sullen pier]

ANY mods I try, does not work

[pure mulch]

If older then 29th they wont work

[sullen pier]

whether it is a PAK file mod, or a EXML mod

[hearty wasp]

then you simply downloaded a lot of old mods

cool so you do understand the difference

[pure mulch]

paks wont work anymore

[sullen pier]

I got the latest version on the modding site

[hearty wasp]

"latest" can also be old

mod is old when not updated

[sullen pier]

Are you saying not one single mod works at all now,

[hearty wasp]

no I'm saying many mods are old and don't work now

please post MODS folder

[sullen pier]

that is ALL the mods on the NExus site then

not one I have tried works, even ones updated today

[hearty wasp]

no I'm saying many of the mods on Nexus

[sullen pier]

well it is ALL of them right now

[hearty wasp]

for you

[sullen pier]

there must be a new way to enable mods now

[hearty wasp]

like I said, post MODS folder

like so

[sullen pier]

damn your files are ancient

the oldest one I have is Dec 2024

[hearty wasp]

yes because I made this picture years ago

[sullen pier]

and most ot them are within the past week

[hearty wasp]

because we have dealt with this for years

but that's irrelevant and you should post yours

or no one will be able to help

[clever holly]

Here's mine, if it helps any

[sullen pier]

well the method that has worked for "years" no longer works

[hearty wasp]

for you

[clever holly]

Yes, because they've changed how modding works in the new update

[sullen pier]

so, none of the modders on Nexus have it right?

[hearty wasp]

do you want it solved or do you want to keep talking about how it doesn't work for you?

[clever holly]

And you still refuse to post your mod folder, so I'm getting the feeling you're hiding something that you don't want us to know about

[sullen pier]

sonce not one single mod works?

not hiding anything, jkust tabbing in and out

[clever holly]

Or, as Quintessential Professional said, maybe you don't actually want help, you just want to keep complaining that nothing works

[hearty wasp]

we can talk after you've posted your MODS folder

[sullen pier]

working on it

[hearty wasp]

thank you

you have installed into the wrong MODS folder

GAMDATA/MODS is the correct one

[clever holly]

Yeah, they're not supposed to be in GAMEDATA/PCBANKS/MODS

[sullen pier]

ahh

[clever holly]

Move the MODS folder up a directory

[sullen pier]

none of the mods I doawnloaded had that in the instructions

[hearty wasp]

you have also extracted the contents of the mods instead of the entire downloaded file's folder into it

[sullen pier]

they said to do that

[hearty wasp]

that was probably the old way unfortunately

[sullen pier]

some of them, others still use PAK files

[clever holly]

Here's my mod folder as an example of how to do it

[hearty wasp]

paks are all old and will not function

[sullen pier]

well mods updated in the past few days are still using them

[hearty wasp]

the mods that are updated in the past few days are using the new loose file format

which are many more files inside a folder

[sullen pier]

well the loose format has always been better, and simply extracting the loose files solved the stuttering and lag in many games

I can think of four games where this works better, even for the unmodded game

so, move the MODS folder to here now?

[hearty wasp]

can you post a screenshot of one of the mods you downloaded that are packaged with the loose files instead of a pak?

[hearty wasp]

you can move it or make a new one here but none of the existing ones you have will work because you didn't install them correctly

[sullen pier]

seems like a lot of modders on NExus need to update their instructions then

the first thing I do after a major NMS update, is DELETE ALL my old mods

and only install the ones that have been updated or changed AFTER the game update

This is one of the mods you asked about

[hearty wasp]

thank you, you should be able to just drag the Better Binocular Scan Colors 3.9 folder into the MODS folder to install it

so instead of moving the folders within it, you just move the folder containing them

[sullen pier]

I have not aeen a single mod that says ot just throw the archive into a folder

[hearty wasp]

not the archive itself

the folder inside the archive

[sullen pier]

show me one that says that

[hearty wasp]

there may not be one because everyone has been busy making mods

[sullen pier]

Ahh, sorry I know what you mean now

yes, I did that

but since it was in the wrong folder, it had noeffect

[hearty wasp]

what you did in the old MODS folder was you move the folders inside the folder you should've moved

[sullen pier]

sorry for the typos, Copilot keeps lagging my typing and cutting and pasting words to the end of the line

so, now like this?

so, what about mods that were updated that still use the PAK files?

like this one

hang on

[hearty wasp]

you don't use them because they cannot work anymore

[hearty wasp]

yes exactly

[sullen pier]

here is a better example

[hearty wasp]

none of them can be used by the game anymore

[sullen pier]

then how it is that peoplee are posting they like the mod, recently, and not saying it is not working?

[hearty wasp]

the update came out on 29th Jan

comments can be as recent as th 28th and it would've still worked for them

[sullen pier]

Okay it seems some of the mods were updated, but the modders either did not test them, or they are not up to speed on the latest method.

[dusk saffron]

I found it pretty easy to add new mods in the last couple of days

[sullen pier]

okay, IU will move all my mods from the "installed" to the "not working" folder that have not honoured the new raw files method

[dusk saffron]

I read how to do it, and it worked

[sullen pier]

I just got the latest mods, but many of them might have just been updated with a script and republished without actually testing to see if they work

[weak monolith]

Looking for someone who knows a ship reskin method that works as of the latest patch
I'm on ps5

[sullen pier]

This happens all the time with code, not just mods.

[dusk saffron]

which one after the 29th was republished without being tested to see if it worked?

[sullen pier]

I think the new method is better, as it allows the mods to be tweaked easily also

[sullen pier]

I have found 8 so far that have not followed the new method

I will just exclude them

[dusk saffron]

which ones?

[sullen pier]

I am sorting that out now. Going through them one at a time and checking their URLs on NExus

[weak monolith]

Looking for someone who knows a ship reskin method that works as of the latest patch
I'm on ps5

[sullen pier]

Thank you, I know what to do and look for now. Thanks for your help!
😊

[vale iron]

I did see someone I don't know post an 'updated' mod as a pak. They just did what they always did and didn't know things had changed.

@sullen pier All of this is in the first pin of this channel. Also all the mods I've updated or made fresh, which is like 20, have pictures and a instruction.

[sullen pier]

I don't read all the pins of every server and channel I can access. No one does. The people in my server never see or read the pins it seems.

I am currently in the process of trying to find out which mod is crashing the game on start, by trying them one at a time.

is there a way to see what mod crashed the game?

They all work independently but together I am getting a crash,

[vale iron]

No, there's no logging. Can you post an updated screenshot of your MODS folder?

[sullen pier]

Are any of these known to cause a crash?

I took these out already, but still crashing

The game starts with any of these installed by itself

[vale iron]

Try gStack next

The game sometimes doesn't like messing with numbers, especially big ones

After that, probably markers, then upgradeable slots

[sullen pier]

these two seem to use the same file

[vale iron]

Good point, maybe try one of those. If they crash when together, could be a bug with exml patching that we should report to HG through zendesk

[sullen pier]

they do not use the same data in the files though

wait, yes they do, on one line

[vale iron]

Could be some problem with how NMS is patching multiple times to the same file

[sullen pier]

so, how does the new method deal with file conflicts? ... because this just seems like a new way of doing what the old XPATH method did

[vale iron]

The document in the pins has a section on mod load order that explains it

[sullen pier]

also, I am wondering why they include a folder with the mod name, why not just use the files with the modified data?

like just these folders

then it should be a fairly sumple matter of just copy and pasting files with the same name, into one larger file

[vale iron]

So you can have multiple mods patching the same file, like you have in yours

If you only had the subfolders, one mod would overwrite the other

[sullen pier]

So this mod

and this one, definitely have a conflict

[vale iron]

That should be ok, but maybe it's not. Did you take one out and crash went away?

[sullen pier]

not yet

I will though

I prefer the XPATH method used in the 7 Days to Die modding

[vale iron]

I haven't played that, so no idea. I just am trying to make the best out of what we have been given 🙂

[sullen pier]

no dice yet

[dusk saffron]

I didn't recognize them, either. I posted about it in the modding discord earlier in case any of you wanted to contact them

[reef stirrup]

Goat Fungus is working great, but no joy in cutting out the objects on the bridge. I only get a slightly different token when the game crashes after calling the freighter. It was a lot more work than I thought, I had used a mod to shrink all the storage rooms back in the rest of the freighter. Tomorrow I will try to replace the entire freighter section from a pre-mod save. If that doesn’t work, I’ll probably delete the freighter in Goat Fungus and create another with the seeds. This upgrade hurt. I have learned my lesson on the freighter, NMS doesn’t like it when you mess with them. Copying last un-modded freighter file to recent save was a failure. Similar crash token. So the end of repair attempt. Now wondering if deleting the freighter in GF will make any difference. Seems like the glitch is deeper than the PersistentPlayerBases data.

[hearty wasp]

my hole is updated https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2007

[granite inlet]

so most of my mods that updated dont seem to be working, im assuming cause the new update, but also i use vortex and am on the Gamepass version of the game

[vale iron]

Vortex doesn't know the new mod location, Gamedata \mods

[granite inlet]

im assuming i can redirect it?

[vale iron]

I don't use it, don't know

[granite inlet]

okay, thank you

[solid hawk]

Just manually copy the folders that are now in PCBANKS\MODS to GAMEDATA\MODS

[solid hawk]

Is it now a bigger, darker hole?

[solid hawk]

The mod files must be in a subfolder of GAMEDATA\MODS. Won't accept files in the root of that directory. But, you can combine multiple mods into a single subfolder, as long as there's no conflicting files, which also resolves an issue we're seeing when there's too many subfolders (arbitrary number, seems to change) causing a crash.

[wheat kettle]

so i just unpack the zipped-up mods into gamedata/mods like normal then?

...multiple mods are using similar EXML files. is it possible to just subfolder them since i wouldn't have the first clue otherwise on how to merge them?

[vale iron]

Keep the full structure of the zip. There needs to be a folder with the mod name inside MODS

[dawn light]

How do I use save editing to get the expedition rewards

[dusk saffron]

go to account section and unlock

[dawn light]

Acount section in what?

[dusk saffron]

save editor

[dawn light]

where do i get a save editor?

[dusk saffron]

most use either goatfungus save editor or NomNom, google is how I find hte links

[dawn light]

okay

[dusk saffron]

if you get goatfungus, I can try to help, if you're patient, I am also multitasking a volunteer thing with a live webcam at a antional park

[sullen pier]

My mods work as long as I use only one at a time, more than one and no matter what combination, the game crashes

spent four hours trying various combinations, and no dice. More than one mod, and the game doesn't even get to the menus. ANY mod, one at a time, the game loads and runs just fine.

[dawn light]

I got the goatfungus .exe file and ran it, it turned into a .jar, what should I do next

[dusk saffron]

I copy all the files to a new folder on your drive

then open up the bat file

[dawn light]

what files?

[dusk saffron]

you might need to install java if you dont already

did you dl the zip file from GF?

[dawn light]

I got a .exe

I found the .zip

[dawn light]

How do I install java, and what is it?

[dusk saffron]

come to here; better place for save editing;
https://discord.gg/bSK5FtGn

[steel crypt]

It was a dream. A dream that turned into a nightmare.

[vale iron]

Try combining multiple mods in one subfolder. What are your system specs?

[dawn light]

Got it all set up, thanks for the info!

[sullen pier]

What colour socks are you wearing? My system specs are irrelevant. My PC cost more than my car.

do you mean, taking all the various mod files and placing them into the actual folder structure?

then I end up with this

[vale iron]

System specs are very relevant, as we've been seeing crashes related to number of mod folders and mod files and are trying to figure out if reduces have anything to do with it. That kind of response really doesn't encourage me to help you out of the kindness of my heart

[sullen pier]

I will remove the mod names and just keep the actual files in the correct structure

It's worth a try

[vale iron]

They need to be in a subfolder not in the root of MODS

[sullen pier]

I am left with this

[steel crypt]

Awww I wanted to know what color socks you are wearing.

[sullen pier]

All the mod files combined into the correct folder structure

[steel crypt]

I'm not wearing any socks 😉

[vale iron]

I'm not, I'm in bed as it's past midnight. I do have some Navy blue merino wool socks I'll put on later if it gets cold

[sullen pier]

LEt's see what happens.

That is only about 40% of the mods I like, but those mods are known to work one at a time without a game crash

[vale iron]

They need to be in a subfolder, as I said before

[sullen pier]

well they are in subfolders

[vale iron]

I'm going to bed, goodnight

[sullen pier]

Do you mean, there needs to be one extra folder to put those folder inside?

[steel crypt]

Yeah

[sullen pier]

How's this?

[steel crypt]

Norm is folder with mod name. Sub folders with game structure inside.

That might work.

[sullen pier]

lets see what happens on a launch

[steel crypt]

Assuming the globals are not mbin

[sullen pier]

and of course steam wants to update ... 😐

game starting

well shit, this might work!

im at the menu screen

game simply disappeared
no warning, no error, just closed
i'm back at the desktop

trying again

going to try loading an old save

loading starfield

close to 200fps at 2560x1440

It seems to be working

🤔

Mods are working and active.
I can tell by the gameplay

[steel crypt]

And that was an existing save whereas you were trying a new save with the crashes?

[sullen pier]

Before it never even got to the mod warning screen, just got past the Havok screen, then white screen and crash error from Windows

this is the first time I have successfullyy launched the game with more than one mod.

apparently putting all the mod files into one folder did the trick (for now)

obviously,, mods that use the SAME file, I will have to manually edit them and combine the data into one XML file

but it works

I landed, exited my ship, and walking about. no lag entering the planet, no stutter and the graphics look great

I am going to try adding more mods by simply combining the mod files, and launch again

I guess all the game's mod tools will have new versions over the next week or so.

I am VERY happy they fixed the stutter entering and leaving planets, that has been an issue for YEARS

So, I just have to manually edit a bunch of EXML files and combine the various mod data... piece of cake .. lol

just have to make use of XML comment tags to keep track of things 😁

Here is an example of two mods combined into one file

Here is another one

So, using a better file explorer, we now have a stack of mods combined into one folder set

example of three mods in one file

[lime mesa]

Is there any unlimited hyperdrive mods that are up to date with worlds part 2

[marsh eagle]

I recommend savediting your ship hyperdrive range in your savefile to 9999999. That way you dont depend on ever breaking mods and its cross platform/cross save

[lime mesa]

How would i do that

[marsh eagle]

Download nomnom from nexus go to ship tab and edit hyperdrive stat

[lime mesa]

Do i download both setup exe and portable zip

[lime mesa]

How do I save the changes i made with nomnom

[wheat nova]

Anymore have any from this species?

And how to add mod to tame species what normal cant

[weak monolith]

Does anyone know a working ship reskin method as of the latest patch?

[lime mesa]

How would i save the changes i made with nom nom

[steel crypt]

With NomNom

[lime mesa]

How would i save the changes, I would like to know

[lime mesa]

Do you know

[steel crypt]

Never used it. I used Gotfungus editor.
There should be a "save" button or something.
I don't have experience with it though.

[sacred apex]

how can you update EISS (better space stations sell everything)?

[steel crypt]

Read first pin

[hearty wasp]

manaully

[sacred apex]

do i use amuss? or

[hearty wasp]

No

You decompile the old mbins

Manually edit the texts in the mxml

Recompile them

[sacred apex]

:()

[slim matrix]

Is there any way to get the Wraith Ship with mods rn? (also im on the xbox version playing on PC)

[hearty wasp]

no we're working on it

you can prolly save edit it in

[marsh eagle]

Huh ? You wrote for consumerism " added expedition 17 and new twitch rewards"

[slim matrix]

well i tried using a save editor but it didnt work

[hearty wasp]

oh yeah

I am working on Bab's one

[marsh eagle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062

[hearty wasp]

but yeah now that you mentioned it ig Consumerism does have it

[marsh eagle]

Question, does it have the new helmets as well ? The helmets strangely have no reward in the reward table

[slim matrix]

wait does that mod work on the xbox version

[marsh eagle]

Yes any pc version

[hearty wasp]

they have a product so I assumed they do ig I can double check

[slim matrix]

btw how do you install mods now?

i looked it up and it didnt work

[hearty wasp]

GAMEDATA/MODS

[marsh eagle]

http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

[slim matrix]

ok and when i install it which file do i coppy into it

[marsh eagle]

All explained there

[slim matrix]

ok ty

[odd shell]

Guys i have figured all the extracting and repacking and all that. But i feel like i took a part a car like a pro but have no clue what it is 😄
I mean those property names. How would i know what they refer to in the game?

[slim matrix]

I put everything in correctly but my game keeps crashing and saying that there are mod incompatabilities but that mod is the only one I have installed

[marsh eagle]

Screenshoot your mod folder hierachy

Also maybe public <-> experimental version issue

[slim matrix]

I cant use the experimental version bc i use the Xbox version

[marsh eagle]

Ah true. Well if your folder hierachy is correct idk. Maybe the mod needs a update but not sure

[hearty wasp]

shouldn't be an issue as purchaseablespecials hasn't changed from pub to exp

just post your MODS folder and we can go from there

[slim matrix]

do you mean just send a pic of it?

also its only not loading on my main save

[hearty wasp]

yeah the entire folder with the folder path please

[slim matrix]

the others are fine

[hearty wasp]

can you try to load that save without the mod

[slim matrix]

sure

loaded perfectly

[hearty wasp]

Weird

Can you try it again now with the mod

Just to see it's not some freak accident

[slim matrix]

k

ok it loaded now

[hearty wasp]

nice

[slim matrix]

i went to the space anomaly and the items arent there tho

[hearty wasp]

not the redeem section

dialog option 1

[slim matrix]

wdym

[hearty wasp]

quit the menu

talk to the guy

dialog option 1

[slim matrix]

im talking to the person there and i clicked the first option and they are not there

[hearty wasp]

oh ok

the previous crash may have disabled all your mods

[slim matrix]

oh

[hearty wasp]

go to No Man's Sky\Binaries\SETTINGS folder

so from your MODS folder

go back out to the No Man's Sky folder

and navigate there

[slim matrix]

ok

what do i do there

[hearty wasp]

delete GCMODSETTINGS

then try and see if your game crashes again

[slim matrix]

k

[hearty wasp]

if so then delete that again and try it on another save

not sure why it would crash tho

[slim matrix]

it isnt crashing anymore but the items in the space anomaly are not there

[hearty wasp]

can you upload a screenshot of it

[slim matrix]

of the mods folder?

[hearty wasp]

of the screen in the game you're looking at

[slim matrix]

yes

[toxic barn]

@hearty wasp is there any way to make your hole bigger than the default mod size?

[slim matrix]

sry im not sure how to send screenshots fron PC

[hearty wasp]

ok can you upload a screenshot of your MODS folder now

[slim matrix]

k

[hearty wasp]

prtscn button

then just ctrl v on here

if you want to cap just the window then have the window selected and then Alt Prtscn

[slim matrix]

what is prtscn button

[hearty wasp]

the one next to your scroll lock

usually above insert

[slim matrix]

i dont think i have that. Im looking for it but its not there.

[hearty wasp]

laptop?

[slim matrix]

no pc

[toxic barn]

if you're on win10 or 11 try win+shift+s

it'll open snipping tools like prntscrn if you don't have one

[hearty wasp]

oh yeah that too

[slim matrix]

im trying but that does nothing

here is where insert and stuff is

[hearty wasp]

insert is off the frame to the left

[toxic barn]

on the top

left of pause break button

should be a printscreen button

nvm 2 button left from the pause break

at the top of the keyboard

[slim matrix]

k i pressed it what do i do

[toxic barn]

ctrl v here

[slim matrix]

it isnt taking the picture

[toxic barn]

see that "pause break" button?

[slim matrix]

yeah

[toxic barn]

you have 2 other buttons beside it?

[steel crypt]

🍿

[slim matrix]

yeah

[toxic barn]

what does it say

[slim matrix]

the second button over says Print Screen

[toxic barn]

THATS THE BUTTON

you press it and paste it on this channel

[slim matrix]

Yeah i pressed it and this happened

[hearty wasp]

now drag across the area you want to capture

this is the snipping tool

you are so close

[toxic barn]

wait they changed the snipping tools?

i didn't know that

[hearty wasp]

you need to drag out a rectangle

[slim matrix]

k

[hearty wasp]

so that it covers what you need to capture

then I guess you press enter to capture

[toxic barn]

finally

[hearty wasp]

you need to move the folder inside the current Consumerism folder into MODS

[slim matrix]

k

[hearty wasp]

so ~Consumerism folder needs to be directly inside MODS folder

[slim matrix]

yes it is now

[hearty wasp]

cool now try again

[slim matrix]

ok

[toxic barn]

@hearty wasp anyway...

[hearty wasp]

you can just scale it in the blackhole scene file assuming you know how to make a mod

[toxic barn]

ah so there's no direct "make the thing bigger by changing the value" other than "changing the model + the warp range"?

[slim matrix]

TYSM IT WORKED

[hearty wasp]

not afaik unfortunately

the blackhole at the end of the day is just a scene file ala model file

it's not really that special in terms of being spawned in the system

[toxic barn]

ah, okay, it does make sense now

[cinder bloom]

i have a question

can i add Consumerism mod to get expedition stuff too?

anyone know?

[hearty wasp]

yes

[cinder bloom]

so how would i be able to use the mod tho? i can not seem to get it onto vortex

[hearty wasp]

you can install manually

read the Installing Mods section here https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Mods

[cinder bloom]

k thanks

[hearty wasp]

finally
Seanter

[steel crypt]

Lol that’s beautiful.

[wheat kettle]

mods work again!! i'm not thrilled about manual installation, but the new system is much cleaner than the old PCBANKS mess

also still sad i cant resize base computers anymore because making those fit on a desk next to a coffee machine in a base was the bee's knees

[rapid sandal]

can't see how gamedata/mods/ is cleaner than pcbanks/mods/

[wheat kettle]

🤷‍♂️

personal preference i guess

so is there a file i could look into for touching up the generic number decals and make them dyeable again?

[rapid sandal]

is this to me or a general question to all ?

[wheat kettle]

general question. idk if they were dyeable before due to mods or as a vanilla feature but now they stay solid-white regardless of which color palette you pick

[rapid sandal]

ah, maybe ask in the nms modding discord. they should know about any palette issues.

[vale iron]

Probably possible, but don't think it exists or has been updated, one of the two

[slim matrix]

does anyone know how to use a save editor

oh, yeah also im using the Xbox version of the game from my pc

[dark forum]

Hi there. Has someone already extracted a biome probabilities table or similar covering the purple systems?

[vale iron]

Yes but not at home right now

Also, gas giant spawning doesn't match the table, so not really sure it's accurate with regards to new planets and systems

[dark forum]

Thanks, sounds interesting.

[final juniper]

any1 got a red and black frigate home seed? x.x

[vale iron]

Not a modding thing. Maybe try: https://ptb.discord.com/channels/146101654981312513/803538367866339359

[final juniper]

ik... but there aint a seed exchange aboat

[vale iron]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[final juniper]

right, I forgot bout that server xD

[ebon turret]

Anyone know the command to stop sentinels from agroing when mining on a planet?
if i use the onfot combat at none i also lose all the alien combat.
could this be used?
<Property name="MaxNumActivePolice" value="0" />

or could this work?

[vale iron]

Do you want them to not aggro or not be on patrol?

[ebon turret]

just not aggro when mining mainly

I dont mind them getting angry when attacking them or breaking into a structure. Just want them to bugger off when mining 🙂
Nothing worse that finding a cool planet to build on and hear that "EXTREME SENTINAL WARNING"

[vale iron]

Extreme sentinels don't care if you mine - they hate you no matter what. Regular sentinels don't care if you mine - they care if you destroy rocks, plants, or animals

[ebon turret]

oh ok, ye but i want to disable them agroing when i mine stuff on planets

[vale iron]

Breaking rocks?

[ebon turret]

rocks, trees, plants animals etc

[vale iron]

Hmm, I'll have to look how hard that would be. It might be in every single object file

[ebon turret]

Added these lines:

<Data template="GcRobotGlobals">
<Property name="DroneCrimeWitnessLimit" value="30000" />
<Property name="DroneCrimeWitnessInvestigateDistance" value="0" />
<Property name="DroneCrimeProximityMultiplier" value="0" />

pulled from a old .lua i found

[vale iron]

Yeah, that would affect buildings too

[ebon turret]

tbh, aslong as they dont agro when mining i can live with that.
If i disable onfoot combat i also disable hostile aliens, and i want to keep those

[vale iron]

Then yeah, the above would work

[ebon turret]

cool thanks 🙂

Tried it now, does not seem to work

[vale iron]

Hmm, could be deprecated, or a mistake

I saw your comments in C&S server, looks right, no mistake

[ebon turret]

Tried with the onfoot combat at all difficulty stages, sentinels still behaves as normal :/

[honest meadow]

Where could it be the property to increase the chance of giant planets instead of gas giants? I'm searching around the paks 🤔

[vale iron]

I don't think we have access to either gasgiant spawning control or giant planets as a percentage of total planets

[hot ember]

reinstalled and remodded the game only to find out Vortex installations no longer work, zero info on when Vortex updates that but whatever
so, are my mods going to work if I just move them from PCBANKS where they were deployed to MODS or is there more to do or do I need to redo everything one by one?

[vale iron]

Move them to GAMEDATA\MODS. There's a document pinned here. Vortex is not a great tool for NMS right now

[hot ember]

I already read it and moved them, basically just want confirmation that it's something that others have done to solve it and that it works

[vale iron]

I haven't personally done it, but if the mods are good, I know it will work

[hot ember]

right, as I'm in the middle of binary search to figure out which of the mods from a supposedly working collection are crashing the game, remind me what is the change in the modding system from HG's end supposed to improve? the patch notes were vague because of course why would that change

[fresh arch]

http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

Should be explained here

[hot ember]

I'm not a mod author so none of it means anything to me and I don't see anything about better/faster/optimized either

[dusk saffron]

Why are you looking at it as though HG intended any changes FOR modding?

[fresh arch]

Now the common basic mods have better chances of surviving throughout game updates

HG likes to clump together lots of properties in the same file. Before WP2, if I wanted to change just 1 line in a file thousand of lines long, I had to still provide the whole file, all thousand lines with that one line replaced

Now we can make a small patch containing (in best case scenario) only that 1 line I'm interested in and the game will apply that patch to its whole file

In theory game should be able to apply multiple patches from different mods to the same file by itself, without end user having to deal with mod conflicts

As for patch notes being vague - because it's one of the many talking points in a huge ass update

Majority of playerbase skips the bullet points at the end of the webpage, don't expect HG sacrificing their time to explain modding system when a miniscule percent of total playerbase can utilize it

[final juniper]

maan I hope this mod gets updated -W- https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1154?tab=description

trying to find a seed for mi frigs is goin o drive me crazy lmao

[young flicker]

What was I pinged here

[tall surge]

hello its been a while since i play this game / modded it i was wondering how do i mod it on the gamepass version all i want is a big omega dreadnought s class ship that's all

[raw roost]

Where do i put mods now? Not on pcbanks anymore right?

[hearty wasp]

#nms-modding message first line in troubleshooting

[raw roost]

Aight thanks

[final juniper]

tthe mods folder now goes in the folder in which the banks is in

[glass gate]

Would it be possible to allow certain structures, like settlements, to spawn on planets they normally don't, such as gas giants or water worlds?

[hearty wasp]

probably can be tried but I'm unsure of the possibility of it actually working

but the question should be always "will anyone want to do it"

[carmine marsh]

is there any way to do old epeditions like 12

[red yew]

I would love to sell my ships to a friend who plays with me or
to have a two seater starship and more technology for a freighter if you know what I mean

And if I'm in a fight in space and freighter is near to help in the fight

I have a s type pirate freighter

[silent kestrel]

are there any tools for exploring the asset files? do I have to decompress everything or is there a tool like GCFScape for it

nvm found it in the pins

[sonic phoenix]

hey im trying to mod nms but im on pc Xbox game pass and every time i try to change the allow mod folder it revers as soon as i open the game

[hearty wasp]

what is the "allow mod folder"?

[tidal ginkgo]

hey do you guys have any recommendations for save editors, I'm too lazy to farm some stuff

[sonic phoenix]

the mod folder that disables mods

[hearty wasp]

there no "folder" that disables mods

there used to be a file a disable them, if that is what you're referring to

that file is no longer relevant

read the "Installation" section in http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

[sonic phoenix]

idk then because I'm trying to tame a creature that's in the ground and the mod isn't working is there any mods you know that would allow me too

[hearty wasp]

read the thing I linked

make sure you installed the mod properly

you can go to the MODSETTINGS file and see if your mod is in the list to see if it is being loaded by the game

details are in the link

[sonic phoenix]

i cant delete this file i have tried but just re intals back into the folder

GCMODSETTINGS.MXML

what do i do about that

[hearty wasp]

you do not need to delete it

you need to read it

open it

read its contents

see if the name of the mod you installed is in it

[vale iron]

I think I understand what they are thinking. They think delete it and keep it deleted. I will clarify the document

Done

[hearty wasp]

I think they are thinking MODSETTINGS is a DISABLEMODS equivilant which the document doesn't state

prolly got stuck on thinking having to yeet a file to use mods rather than possibly just installed to the old path

[vale iron]

NMS Modding after 5.50 document updated. Clarified a few steps, added a troubleshooting step of combining mod folders, added a sentence to Mod Loading Order to clarify how mod priority is determined (in a very basic way)
http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

The old troubleshooting step said to delete it but didn't say anything about how it gets recreated safely. Yeah, they probably thought it needed to stay gone or mods would be disabled

[trim sedge]

is there a mod that lets me make a ship without having to buy ships & scrap them?

[vale iron]

No, wouldn't work that way, since the properties are defined by the parts used. There are mods that add those parts to vendors, but I don't know if they are updated

[trim sedge]

is it all parts to a vendor or only some vendors sell some parts so im gonna have to go across the galaxy to find the proper ship part

[vale iron]

Don't know, you'll have to lookup the mods

[trim sedge]

do you know what they called, im using a website to look at all the parts atm, but i dont know how to change those parts

[hallow prairie]

Needing some help. I read the NMS Modding doc but consumerism still doesn't seem to be working. I put the entire folder in the MOD folder, but the items are still locked behind the previous achievements. I deleted the GCMODSETTINGS but that didn't do anything either. I also couldn't find the disable mods file. The game does recognize I have mods installed and gave me the warning.

[hearty wasp]

stickied comment in page

[hallow prairie]

Thank you, I saw the same image. I checked the Quicksilver store. The items aren't there.

[hearty wasp]

can you post your MODS fodler

just a screenshot of the entire window

[hallow prairie]

I would but it's not going to help b/c there are subfolders. I literally only have the consumerism folder in there. I extracted the mod from the consumerism download straight into the MOD folder

XD

[hearty wasp]

include the folder path please

I did say the entire window

I specifically need to also see the folder path

[hallow prairie]

Not super comfy screenshotting that. I have it in Steam

[hearty wasp]

it needs to be in GAMEDATA/MODS now

[hallow prairie]

Oh! I'm sorry. When I read the doc I thought it meant the MODS fold IN PCBANKS and not just out and about in PCBANKS. I didn't know the entire mods folder had to be outside of PCBANKS itself. I'm really sorry for the stupid question. Tysm for the help!

[hearty wasp]

it k HG's just have a new system post 5.50 and it prolly need some getting used to

[hallow prairie]

Tysm for your patience. It's just my poor reading skills I think. I'll try to be more careful if I need more troubleshoot. Thank you again ^^

[vivid marten]

hi, im combining all my mod using latest AMUMSS _Collapse_MODS.bat, (coz its crash the game at wwise if not)
there is a way to reverse this ? coz AMUMSS give is a generic name and i dont know which mod which.

[hearty wasp]

you delete all of them and do it all over

[vivid marten]

oof.
hope AMUMSS team implement something like the old style CombinedMod_5_(2).pak_content.txt , atleast i know what mods inside the folder lol.

[vale iron]

I'll suggest it

Added collapser to the doc

[vivid marten]

thx a lot

[little salmon]

is there any good way to have more colors in the ship builder?

i want black soooooo bad

[vale iron]

Lo2k just updated true black mod

Can't get more colors, but can get tweaked colors

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2400

[proper anchor]

Are mods client side only or does other players see them?

[vale iron]

Client side

[vale iron]

Author says it's on their list to add that function

[vale iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3330

[vivid marten]

wahoo! in the mean time i have to have 2 folder to manually keep track which mod which before collapse it.

btw for these type of update, do i need to download the new zip or just running buildmod.bat ?

[vale iron]

For major updates, like 4.x to 5.x, you need the full zip. For smaller updates it should updated when you run Buildmod

[vague niche]

Out of curiosity, are there any mods that increase the appearance slots? Three is way too little nowadays

[vale iron]

No, that's hardcoded

[vague niche]

There goes my dream of having an unique outfit for every ship

Hopefully they'll increase it one day

[sly raptor]

Are most of the mods updated yet

[vale iron]

Most? No. A lot? Yes.

[sly raptor]

Ok

[hearty wasp]

I assume that wouldn't work very very well for big mods since mods with multiple files may get disintegrated and distributed across multiple collapsed mods

But sure monofile mods will benefit from it

[hearty wasp]

I can think of a way to have 8/9 outfits stored per race but then users'd have to punch in the code of all the pieces of every outfit in a text file manually

[hearty wasp]

Finally I can tap the sign #nms-modding message

[slender cloak]

Who can tell what happened to the modding system after the update and why did pak mods stop working normally?

Or I don't understand something

[hearty wasp]

#nms-modding message

[slender cloak]

Do you know why the modding system was changed?

[hearty wasp]

no

I assume because Sean feels like it

[slender cloak]

Fr

[lucid zodiac]

hey i tried downloading the nms save editor but when i scanned the EXE file it showed me 3 diffrent viruses, and when i tried to use the java file it just opens for a split second and then closes, can somenoe tell me what is going on here?

i am only planing on using the save editor for 2 thingsa nd thats it

[hearty wasp]

false positives because save editor's job is to edit files/exe's job is to make new files appear from decompression

and obviously you'll need java to run the jar

should be able to run it with the bat file tho

[lucid zodiac]

.... i am pretty sure i have java...

[hearty wasp]

try running the bat file

[lucid zodiac]

what is a bat file

[hearty wasp]

batch file

icon should look like a window with gears in it

[lucid zodiac]

i really hope those are false positives

[hearty wasp]

unless you somehow clicked the wrong download button in GitHub, which is virtually impossible because they don't really run ads, you should have no issue

NMSSE is one of 2 save editors we have and both are widely used

[lucid zodiac]

i clicked this

[hearty wasp]

of course you're welcome to not edit your save if you're concerned

oh you haven't extracted it yet

then do so

[lucid zodiac]

extract this?

[hearty wasp]

run it

it's a "self-extracting archive"

which mean it uh

self-extracts

[lucid zodiac]

ok... i trust you guys

[hearty wasp]

just so you understand this a little bit more in the future, antiviruses often can give false positives to programs that edits files outside of its own

[lucid zodiac]

ahh..... i extracted it

where is it

[hearty wasp]

and self-extracting archive/installation files are the same because they also make files outside of their own

should be in the same directory as the archive

[lucid zodiac]

...
i see a jar file that was somehow downloaded 4 days ago?

[hearty wasp]

yeah should be it

only the jar?

[lucid zodiac]

opend it

it closed immidiatly

[hearty wasp]

did you run it in an already crowded folder?

the files may be scattered among other pre-existing files

[lucid zodiac]

found it and it works, how do i back up my save?

[hearty wasp]

whenever you edit your save NMSSE should a back up of it in your save folder

are you on gamepass?

[lucid zodiac]

no

pc

[hearty wasp]

gamepass is on PC

[lucid zodiac]

steam

[hearty wasp]

cool sec

%AppData%\Roaming\HelloGames\NMS

copy and paste that onto your file explorer's address field

should take you straight to the folder that contains the folders that contains saves

looks like so

you can just copy the entire folder and paste elsewhere for backup

[lucid zodiac]

why do i have 2 saves?

[hearty wasp]

so each save slot has an autosave and a restore point right

[lucid zodiac]

i never played 2 saves....

oooooohhhh

[hearty wasp]

yeah

[lucid zodiac]

so which one do i back up

[hearty wasp]

why not both

[lucid zodiac]

umm....

[hearty wasp]

you can just backup the entire folder containing these

[lucid zodiac]

ok ty very much!

[mint seal]

when modding does my friends also have to get those mods aswell

[hearty wasp]

If they want the same experience as you then yes

You can play with them regardless

[mint seal]

awesome is it hard to put mods in or did it become easier with world 2

[hearty wasp]

Same difficulty as before just a different folder

#nms-modding message

There's installation instructions inside

[mint seal]

awesome thank you

[light trellis]

I'm seeking advice on the most efficient way to set up my Jetpack system. My issue is that when i initially launch i rise up a few meters and then sink down a couple meters before actually ascending with earnest. This affects my forward motion by skipping me off the surface of the planet and then causing me to hop along. Here is my current configuration. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[sly raptor]

And now the mods probaly stopped working

[fallow meadow]

Try without Rocket Boots, and see how you like it?

@light trellis Also best to ask in #nms-questions

[mossy perch]

currently im playing on easy difficulty. If i wanna switch to perma by changing the version code, will i get into perma lobby only (yk since it is separated) or what?

[fallow meadow]

It will require a few changes, not just the version value (which is specific to PD and game version), but also difficulty settings in general to match with accepted ranges for PD.

[mossy perch]

seems like a lot of work

thank you

[fallow meadow]

@mossy perch You could try, but I suggest to make sure you have a backup. Perhaps it will automatically adjust any difficulty settings. I'll be able to get you the current PD version value.

[mossy perch]

yes, please

[fallow meadow]

@mossy perch Current 'Version' value is 6730, with 'BaseContext > GameMode' being 5

[mossy perch]

all right

thank you, my good sir

[hardy aurora]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

Worlds 5.52 (137322)

Mode       │Value │Version│Save
───────────┼──────┼───────┼────
Normal     │1     │4682   │4170
Creative   │1     │4682   │4170
Survival   │1     │4682   │4170
Relaxed    │1     │4682   │4170
Permadeath │5     │6730   │4170
Expeditions│6     │4682   │4170

Contributor: DevilinPixy

[dusk saffron]

@light trellisdont use supercharge on the upgrade movement modules that you get from vendors, only the ones you craft

[frozen owl]

if i use mods, can i still go online?

[marsh eagle]

Yes no problem

[fallow meadow]

!faq-modding @frozen owl

[hardy aurora]

@frozen owl
-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[frozen owl]

thank you

[light trellis]

@dusk saffron Sorry.. could you extrapolate a bit more on this? I was unaware that we could craft Movement Modules at all.

[dusk saffron]

you craft the modules you unlock at The Anomaly, like Neural Stimulator, and Rocket Boots.

[mint seal]

so i tried getting the consumerism mod and i think i messed up somewhere, i made a mod folder in the game data and then put it in the folder but its not working

[fallow meadow]

Make sure to follow instructions found here: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062?tab=description

!faq-modding