nms-modding

[fresh arch]

You will find guides on how to get started with unpacking and editing game files there

[grand arrow]

Oh nice, ty

[tulip crescent]

TY AGAIN!

u helped me last time as well

[gray snow]

i kinda already started using vortex and things are working atm. also i was modding cyberpunk 2077 a ton about 4 months ago and started by installing the mods manually in the game directory because i saw that that’s how to do it on youtube. but then when i told ppl i was doing that, they said i should’ve been using a mod manager. so then i switched all my mods to vortex and its a lot easier. so why should i not use vortex for nms?

is it just not possible because there’s no first person character model to begin with?

[vale iron]

Vortex doesn't add any benefits and can cause problems. Some of the problems are rare (like deployment not working right), some are more common (like installing every version of a mod where all the versions conflict with each other)

It's just way smoother and less troublesome to copy the PAK to MODS

For other games I use managers, but not for NMS

I guess it does notify you when a mod has updated, but you can just follow the mod on Nexus and check occasionally. Most mods only update when the game updates

[gray snow]

do you think it’d be ok if i still use vortex for now? i’m currently just using quest timer redux, no lag when leaving planet, and i think a better performance mod when flying into a planet’s atmosphere.

oop meant to reply to you

@vale iron

if i were to one day start adding more intensive mods and need to switch to manually modding, would that cause any save file conflict?

[vale iron]

You can keep using it, just be aware of the possible issues. If a mod has multiple versions, make sure it's only installing one. And be aware that vortex can't know anything about mod conflicts or out of date mods

[gray snow]

gotcha thanks. yea i’m kinda stuck on the loading screen atm lol. the loading screen where it’s just moving forwards past all the stars

like it’s MOVING but smoothly in this loading screen but not loading me into the game

maybe i will just start manually modding it since i just started doing this

@vale iron do i have to extract the files from the mod folders and then put them into the mods folder, or can i just have the whole folder go into the mods folder?

[dusk saffron]

@gray snow
#nms-modding message

so yes to extract, no to folders

[gray snow]

and only the .pak files not anything else that’s in the folders?

[dusk saffron]

right

[gray snow]

ok cool thank you

[dusk saffron]

I make a separate mods folder in Gamedata that I store luas

[gray snow]

what does luas stand for?

i have a mods folder on my desktop for where i keep the original mod folders if that’s what you mean

[dusk saffron]

if you end up learning to use AMUMSS, then you use the lua

[gray snow]

also rq again you mean extract the mod folder using winrar or something, and THEN take out the singular .pak file and put it into the games mod folder?

[gray snow]

ok i’ll have to look into what that is too

[gray snow]

gotcha thanks

[ebon bridge]

AMUMSS is like the coolest thing in the world because it just like fixes ever problem i ever have with mods

loving it

[ebon bridge]

does gbase boundaries work with multiplayer?

[hearty wasp]

dunno why it wouldn't

but it does

other people just download the base wholesale from the servers

and the base will get uploaded no matter what

[worldly sigil]

wrong channel Im stupid

[round sinew]

@steel crypt ❤️ that overlay

[steel crypt]

Oh cool 👍
Glad you like it. Do you think the moving refraction (heat waves) is about right?
Anyway have fun 😀

I made the red overlay part as minimal as I could because it actually hides refraction oddities at the edge of the screen. I also changed the cold/frozen overlay if you haven’t seen that one.

[brisk berry]

if i add a mod that gives me a multi-tool or a expdition reward can i remove it afterwards?

[viral oak]

yeah satou

[steel crypt]

I don’t know saves well, but I’m pretty sure those things will be part of your save after you get them. Removing mod will not change the save.

[brisk berry]

thnx

is there a mod to give me all expedition rewards or do i have to do the save file thing, i have data of expediton on my file

[steel crypt]

Search Nexus mods. There is one called Consumerism that I think does that. Alternatively, you can save edit.

[delicate heart]

Best graphical mods? I have better planet generation, exo grass fix, fine lod lite, relight, and natural nights. And I feel like it looks worse than before. Maybe it's because I'm in vr.

[hearty wasp]

Sean

[solid hawk]

None of us (major NMS modders) have VR, so can't really test or design our mods for VR.

You buy me a VR rig, I'd be happy to do so. lol

[delicate heart]

Trust me i wish I could. I'd love to contribute. I just sold my quest 2. Otherwise I would've been down to workout out a deal for someone that would then dedicate some modding time for vr. No mans sky is soooo much better in vr.

[solid hawk]

Maybe someday

[delicate heart]

@solid hawk and i wasn't trying to shit on your mod. I know it's takes a lot of time and I definitely appreciate the contribution. Im sure it looks great. I was really only listing those incase someone noticed a conflict between them that would mess it up.

[solid hawk]

not a problem, I get it. 🙂

[delicate heart]

Fortunately the quest 3s is only 300. So now you can probably get a quest 2 for 100 or 150 and they are still pretty good. Especially for pcvr. So I forsee a lot more people transitioning to vr the next couple years

[iron locust]

does anyone know if u use save editor where settings are ( eg where do i unlock difficulty) in the raw json thing

?

[plucky snow]

Is there a mod were I can change the creature interaction distance?

[solid hawk]

Companion Pet Unlocker

[lilac depot]

Does the NMS Expeditions replay mods by Leodium allow me to have 1 save with all the expeditions?

[fluid elk]

where is the pinned comment on how to mod the game?

[vale iron]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fluid elk]

is there a mod that can change the red lighting of the dreadnaught to purple or pink?

[fresh arch]

If you don't see it on Nexus released past or updated since Worlds Part 1 update then no

[vale iron]

I'll look in about an hour. Just finished my day and relaxing at 711 for a short bit.

[fluid elk]

appreciate it, i havnt found anything as of yet

[vale iron]

There isn't anything

There are fewer than 10 people that would possibly make a mod like that, and none have

[fluid elk]

dang

[vale iron]

I'm going to look at reworking the model to use configurable textures instead of fixed RGB values, then just make them match the primary or secondary color of the freighter

Or maybe a mix, some primary and some secondary? That could be cool

[fresh arch]

Or add a new colour picker

[vale iron]

Too much work for tonight, I am lazy

[fresh arch]

The UI has only what 4 pickers?

Understandable have a nice day / night

[vale iron]

I'm just chilling at 711 trying to understand what these guys next to me are saying about inflation in Korean

I'll go home soon and look at it

Why the hell do they make any player stuff fixed RGB? It's so frustrating and short sighted

[fluid elk]

i new color picker for the outside lights specifically would be nice

[vale iron]

It's like my Galaxy watch face. Why do I have 20 colors to pick from on a 2024 UI, rather than a color wheel?

I should be able to open the camera, click on a color from the camera, and set it that way

[fluid elk]

like, its just weird to me, and kinda seems like an oversight or just lazyness, but the lights on the outside not being changeable by default is a game sin IMO

[vale iron]

The fastest method is going to be just rewriting the exml but I shouldn't do that. I ought to use SECEDIT

Laziness for sure

They took their npc thing and did some stuff to make it PC ownable

Didn't do enough though

[fluid elk]

yeah, like i also wish i could change the color of the atlas staff by default, but i did find a mod for that

or customize my ships (also found some for that)

[dusk saffron]

pretty sure NO, as you are swapping out an entire section of JSON, and it can only be one way at a time, as I see it. But I am wrong plenty of times about this kind of stuff

[vale iron]

I think you can use it to eventually play all expeditions on one save, but not all at the same time.

[dusk saffron]

yes

[vale iron]

@fresh arch Yeah, they are DDS, not RGB. Surprising to me, but shouldn't have been. Will have to adjust the DDSes to be texture MBIN compliant

[lilac depot]

I just want to load one at a time to eventually yes have all of them done, but if the save that does have all of them done needs to be in offline or not is my main question, i want to play online after having done all of the expeditions as if nothing happened and i didnt miss each one

[lilac depot]

You already gave me enough info with just the fact im swapping out an entire section of JSON, that just tells me that i can do all the expos up to the current one and have a master save, thanks!

[fluid elk]

update on dreadnaught lights?

[tawny cairn]

Is there scripting in NMS? I'm thinking about creating a mod but NMSE is last updated in 2016

[rapid sandal]

not for general use, still in alpha phase. goto the NMS Modding discord, you'll find a couple channels dedicated to runtime modding.

[delicate heart]

Anyway we can get a mod showcase channel on here?

[vale iron]

What do you mean? You can just look at the main page on NexusMods

[delicate heart]

Yea of course. But if modders wanted to show off particular ones they built on here, that would be cool.

[dusk saffron]

😬

[vale iron]

Oh we usually do share links or images when we publish or sometimes update

[tawny cairn]

is there an estimate when will be public release? in a few years?

[vale iron]

Assume never and be pleasantly suprised if it happens

From what I understand, almost everything was built on one debug release from a year or more ago, and the engine keeps changing over time to prepare for LNF, and HG has no plans of sharing more engine information in the future, I'm sure

[fresh arch]

There isn't really any point in creating a channel for like 2 dozen people max to showcase their work

Only some active mode authors visit this server, others hang in another community servers or made their own ones

[vale iron]

I can only think of one that has their own, and they aren't allowed on any of the others 😛 Does anyone else have their own server?

[fresh arch]

No I was covering the one you're talking about

[winter thicket]

Hey guys, i just downloaded the goatfungus save editor on my computer and was wondering if i use the regular bat file or the 4G bat file?

[shadow lance]

You'll run the executable jar file

[dusk saffron]

I use regular .bat

[winter thicket]

I dont know if im just doing it wrong or what… I have the java thing downloaded, ive tried doing a manual zip download, and ive run all three (the 4G didnt work at all) and i still cant pull up my save in the editor. Every folder ive supposedly saved my file in shows up with nothing :((

I’m not super computer savvy either, i mostly play xbox and have just recently started playing my save through the pc xbox extension so im sorry if im wrong :(((

[dusk saffron]

might need NomNOm for the xbox save file

[shadow lance]

Goatfungus works as well, I've used them both for XBox

[winter thicket]

Yeah i heard it was pretty good so thats why i decided id try it out

[shadow lance]

Ok, have you tried to enter the path for where your save files are located?

[winter thicket]

Mhm and when i click on it to open it it just takes me to my “backups” folder and theres always nothing to actually pull up

I can try to send a pic

The No Mans Sky folder is the same place ive tried and tried again to save the zip to

[shadow lance]

Ok, the path should start with c:\Users<yourname>\AppData\Local\Packages\Hello.Games folder

And will then be in the SystemAppData\wgs folder

And the folder should be just a bunch of numbers if anything like my PC game pass install

[winter thicket]

Just ran a search through my files and nothing like that popped up. I think its just actually not downloading my saves

[shadow lance]

Have you run NMS on the PC already?

[winter thicket]

Yeah through the pc Xbox application

[shadow lance]

Ok, then it definitely should have synced so there would be data

[shadow lance]

Try going through the path manually

Ahhh, I see....AppData folder under the user seems to be Hidden, so will need to tweak the settings to see Hidden files

[winter thicket]

Yeah running it through still popped up with nothing :((

[shadow lance]

Searching won't pull it up

At least not for me

[winter thicket]

Hmm its alright. I might tinker with it tomorrow and see what happens. Its super late atm so i’m about to hit the hay

Thanks for helping me out though 🫶!!!

[shadow lance]

GL

[lost jackal]

so, does anyone know if I create a "backup" of my freighter via goatfungus savegame editor, is it the freighter itself or the base? Like, I got a S class dreadnought during expedition, but it's not a fresh save. I'd like to keep that

[dusk saffron]

@lost jackalWhen I want to replicate a freighter to a new save, I copy paste the base out of persistent player base section in JSON, then the freighter inventory tech section, then swap the seeds in the freighter tab

I have those JSON sections saved in a notepad file

[lost jackal]

I really dont care about the base. I just want to keep the freighter itself. So I guess it would be better to just "save" the seed and stats?

[dusk saffron]

yes

[lost jackal]

is that stuff enough then?

[dusk saffron]

I take a game photo, then name the image to the home and model seeds of freighter, then keep a folder of the images

[dusk saffron]

yes

[lost jackal]

I guess a textfile is enough 😂

[dusk saffron]

personal preference of how you want to read and type or copy paste seeds. I don't want to mess up from re typing them 🙂

[lost jackal]

eh I just copied it out and will paste it later, seems to be the safest way 😛

[fallow meadow]

@lost jackal Whether that will be enough depends. The info above does not include inventory and tech, or slot layout, etc

[lost jackal]

any better way then? I really don't have a clue, I never "moved" a freighter to another save or similar

[dusk saffron]

" I copy paste the base out of persistent player base section in JSON, then the freighter inventory tech section"

[fallow meadow]

I personally prefer to copy over raw json data sections, but it does depend on what data you actually care about. Inventory and tech can of course be recreated if need be. Slots can be added again as well. Some other more specific things may not always be possible to change through in-game means. For example your freighter bridge crew, slot layout, supercharged slots (if present). And as said by @dusk saffron, there is also the base of course.

[lost jackal]

I mean, I've looked at that JSON stuff but it didnt make any sense to me. I think I'd need a better explaination 😂

the only code I am able to use would be HTML

not much of a coder myself

[fallow meadow]

I personally dislike the use of the backup feature, even though useful, it is not in a format I prefer, as it is compressed and therefor unreadable

With regular updates, that format can be problematic at times

[fallow meadow]

Yes, I can understand the raw json not making much sense either, unless you become familiar with it all. So in the end it is a bit of a personal preference

[lost jackal]

not much worth saving here anyways. It's literally just the freighter itself I want to save 😂

[fallow meadow]

Then the data you copied earlier is likely all you really need.

[lost jackal]

and I'm familiar with the save editor, at least the "basic user" stuff. I know how to resize the inventory, add items, supercharge them or whatnot

and my freighter base of the current expedition is just "what I need", not much work in there anyways

[fallow meadow]

Oh yes, basically anything else can be fixed again if need be

[dusk saffron]

you're in great hands with Devilin to open up a huge toy store of goodies if you want to find out more about JSON editing

[fallow meadow]

You should be fine. I just want to make sure you are aware that there is more to it, to avoid any misunderstanding

And after all those years, I actually do not really care about specific parts in the data anymore. I just keep backups of all my saves. Size is not really that much of an issue when it comes to backups, and I am sure all data I may ever wish to use is in fact there

Found a cool freighter ... alright, backup!

[lost jackal]

I feel that, yes. But in all honesty, I have 18 different NMS saves... and I rarely touch any of them

[dusk saffron]

I keep a folder of Saves like that. File them, then delete from game menu

[lost jackal]

even less since you can just start an expedition from an existing save, but I guess regarding stuff like freighters, I guess I should start new saves for expeditions again. I think I have one save with over 200 hours, the rest is just below 100 😂

despite owning NMS since release, I only have short of 500 hours anyways lol

[fallow meadow]

Who knows. I never intended to become a save editor expert either, but hey ... intrigue caught me ... hooked me

[lost jackal]

I have too many other games I play on a regular basis, and all of them I play way more than NMS... I really like NMS, but these days it's mostly just "cool, new expedition, gotta finish it before I miss out on the rewards" 😂

... and I said that after completely missing the cursed expedition

[dusk saffron]

Cursed was good, IMO. I did it 6 or 7 times

with PC, you can still access it with JSON editing in offline mode

pretty sure it got added to the data files

[lost jackal]

yeah I don't know how to do that at all. 😂

[dusk saffron]

that is why this channel exists

[fallow meadow]

Yes, 'leodium' has it included on their github

[solid hawk]

No way, would be horrifically abused

[vale iron]

Really it just needs one post with Sean pictures

[pure mulch]

I just use backup/restore button

tech and base is saved i think

[delicate heart]

Any mods that adds animations or just make the main quests more interesting than just reading text? Some narration or something hell

[solid hawk]

These do not exist and not possible to do. Way the game works.

We've no means of doing much of anything with animations beyond adjusting speeds and the quest system is entirely based on reading and responding to texts. No text to voice system exists. HG would have to add it, modding cannot.

We can't add new features or introduce any sort of logic, nor anything at runtime. We can adjust values of existing properties in static game files, loaded when the game starts. That's it.

[delicate heart]

Gotcha

Also, i installed the shipstore mod but I'm not seeing any options for them at the trade terminals.

[solid hawk]

Not my mod and I don't use it. Don't normally see the author hanging here. Leave a message on the POSTS tab of the mod page and he'll get with you asap.

[neat hedge]

Can anyone help me with a corrupt save issue?

I was told people here would know better how to act

[terse gale]

Did you make a manual backup of your save? That's one way to deal with it, by deleting the corrupted save and placing a copy of the backup on the save file location.

[neat hedge]

Never before, but i have had save editor almost since i started playing nms

[fresh arch]

I don't know about save corruption so imma go with easier possible cause

Are you trying to run any outdated mods?

Cause doing that can proc this message as well

[neat hedge]

Well, i removed any mod from the mods folder and booted the save, getting the same message, so i don't think mods are to blame here

But i've been updating a specific lua file with AMUMMS for some time now, maybe that mod is too old for the program to update it properly and is corrupting my saves

[fresh arch]

That's not likely to happen, an outdated LUA script would just fail to compile and not generate a mod PAK file

[neat hedge]

Yeah, that's what i thought too

[fresh arch]

And booting the game without mods with saves with custom data will purge that custom data

Well if it's save editing expert you need, I'd recommend checking with Devilin Pixy

[neat hedge]

I mean, save editor has auto backups doesn't it?

[fresh arch]

They used to do some guidance in #964865106334875698

It should

[neat hedge]

Cause

[fresh arch]

But I never really used it, in general my experience with SE is minimal

[neat hedge]

I have a save file gap where i can select either my 2 saves the game normally does

Or the backups

Maybe those are the key, idk

[fresh arch]

And you sure you're running thr latest available version of the SE of your choosing

[neat hedge]

Yeah

It recently auto updated

[delicate heart]

The only time I've gotten that error is when I was trying to run it at too high of a resolution

[vital comet]

@fresh arch Ive been having some thoughts. how well do you know save editors? I have a crazy idea on how to do some random community things, but are probably impossible. I might be a day or two to respond

I want a way to make random checklists for people to do, like cooking recipes, ets

make a fake exped, with steps based on what someone might have checked off in their catalouge

[vale iron]

Sounds like not a save editor thing, but a mission mod

[vital comet]

yeah, but youd need save info to pick things to do

I want it to be able to pick things that people HAVENT done

I know that the save editors can do all that

This is all random thoughts, I dont mind getting shot down

I was going to look through my own stuff, and make personal goals

Just thought it would be cool, if someone could get a mod or whatever, that would give them direction to do anything they havent done. And make it automated enough, to not need to stress on the upkeep

What I was going to do, just for myself, is look up everything I dont have, and put it all in a list

That to me, is all about a save edit

Im far too dumb to do that

was just a thought

But a "you havent dont this yet" thing would be cool

[fresh arch]

I have minimal experience with save editors

And I won't be undertaking any mission related mods anytime soon

I can't tell whether a mod telling people of stuff they didn't do would be doable in the 1st place

[dusk saffron]

the Mission lines in JSON are so complicated and ordered in a bizarre way..... good luck to anyone digging into that 🙂

[solid hawk]

Seems a dangerous plan. JSON editing should be approached with utmost caution. Not treated as a trivial scavenger hunt game. One typo and your 1000 hour save could be turned to trash.

"if someone could get a mod or whatever, that would give them direction to do anything they havent done"..and no the automated thing isn't going to ever happen, unless you're going to make it. If you don't have the technical ability to do so, then nobody needs suggestions. In this case, you could just write up and post a step by step walkthrough of doing things you want to do, BUT then also be willing to take on the responsibility of fixing anyone\everyones saves that get broken by following your checklist, from the time you post until the game is ended by HG.

[dusk saffron]

I had a backup, but I broke a save with a comma missed or in the wrong line

[fresh arch]

Even the whole json aside

I don't see how it can be done using the blocks the game already provides

Some stuff can be in theory tackled by conditions like "player has finished mission ID"

But that's just a portion of the activities the game provides

No way to check for stuff like "has player used ship fabricator" or "has player caught a legendary fish in the past" etc.

And then there the issue of scope

Good luck getting someone to do hundreds of missions to run in the background and nag player with tooltips "do this", "do that"

[rapid sandal]

since the runtime api modding tools are still in infancy you'd have to create a pre-processing type tool. as you describe it would scan a users save to see what missions have been started, scan the game missions mbin's to see what's available, create a diff of missions that haven't been started, identify the conditions to start those missions, build a custom mod with a master mission that can kick off the ones that haven't been started. all doable, but likely a massive undertaking. if you just want to create a help that lets them know offline how to start the remaining missions, that will still be a lot of work to walk through all the mission mbin's, but likely more feasible.

[ocean tangle]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vale iron]

There are only two, and it's up to preference betewen them

[dusk saffron]

whichever you choose, NMSC companion app by Dr Kaii is a powerful tool that compliments either

[junior hatch]

how to find a game crash log?

i got the game running with mods again, and am playing the expedition, but im on a planet and got several exped milestones mostly using the minotaur's scan ability with the exo's scan upgrade mod to find all locations.

the game first crashed while the minotaur was jetpacking using its own movement mod and was basically flying with the ai, which, i saw it crashed the game as it couldnt control its flight path in the low gravity x movement mod

so i removed the ai pilot, but now the game is repeatedly crashing while flying between locations found with the minotaur's scan

*i assume a game crash log is how you find whats causing game crashes/which mods arent working as described

[vale iron]

Sounds like it's not the bug you thought it was. In my experience, if it's intermittent like that, it has to do with something graphical like LOD, not something like AI or mech movement. It's also possible that it's not mod related (though less likely)

To answer your question, though: there's no way to derive any information from crash logs or numbers

[junior hatch]

damn then

graphical though... i am having some missing graphics in my main save (some parts of the minotaur arent showing and in the main save exped i have some parts of my freighter missing (as in my fighter bay is separate from the main body)

but the minotaur looks fine in the exped, probs because its not using the modded parts (its in its base form, not super mech 2)

i didnt think much of it

[vale iron]

Need to see what mods you have installed

Post a screenshot of your MODS folder

[junior hatch]

doing it now

i can sc if need be, but this was quicker

all mods show no error and all needed to be merged

[vale iron]

Oh, if you're using Better, it's going to have a lot of problems

There's a reason I haven't updated it yet 🙂

[junior hatch]

*as i understand things they needed to be at least

better? i thought i removed all of better nms

[vale iron]

I'll look at it more closely, though

[junior hatch]

ah, i left like 3 in i think

[vale iron]

I thought I saw it right away, but I'll look one sec

[junior hatch]

im not sure why its named that though, but its not bnms

[vale iron]

You've definitely got some conflicting mods in there, things modifying the same things

[junior hatch]

yeah, theres like 3 that dont

so i just merged them all

that changed with v5.0

[vale iron]

I mean you have two versions of pulse upgrades, two versions of procedural rare crystals

[junior hatch]

they were like 50/50 but now its almost every mod

[vale iron]

And I've just barely looked

[junior hatch]

pulse upgrades one is reverse which the other doesnt cover

or so i thought

[vale iron]

I didn't write the mod so I'm not sure, but they sound like one does the same as the other, but more so

[hearty wasp]

post REPORT.lua from AMUMSS so we can actually see any conflicts

[junior hatch]

i dont recall having 2 proceed crystals but good catch just found it

[vale iron]

Two differnet versions of shorter arrival messages

two versions of damaged machineries

two versions of quick crates

[junior hatch]

god damn it - howd that get missed?

[dusk saffron]

hoarder 🤣

[junior hatch]

i just fixed this

[vale iron]

two versions of gsquad damage

[junior hatch]

time to re mod my game

i must have downloaded updated files and didnt delete the old ones

[vale iron]

Two versions of better ship lighting stations, but that's my fault. I didn't delete an old filename

BUT, I don't see anything that jumps out to me as a cause of crashes

[junior hatch]

that explains my stations! just remembering my space stations look like either theyre rusted out or in a cyber frameware matrix code stuff

[vale iron]

The station light mods only affect the lighting on pads inside the station, not the external appearance

[junior hatch]

station lighting: all and pads, are they the same?

well theres something else to figure out then

[vale iron]

Yeah, just get rid of the pads one

[junior hatch]

right

[vale iron]

Best approach is going to be clean up what you can, then cut down to like 1/4 of the mods at a time and see what happens

[junior hatch]

6 duplicate mods i found

not sure how that happened

[vale iron]

Got it now, so no worries

[junior hatch]

thats tessarect done, moving onto atlas and eva-01

ill run these through again and recheck

[junior hatch]

game ran for a while longer, but it crashed in the mech while looking away from the alien monolith i just found via scan

[vale iron]

Ok, so cut more from what you are loading and try again

[junior hatch]

theres around 100 mods - is there a recommended method

• with minecraft, you cant just remove 50% of mods due to require core mods
• i install minecraft mods based on a known non-issued system of increasing complex mods
• are there "complex mods" that should be looked at removing over others or such with nms?

or should i just go "rngesus if life"

[vale iron]

There are more than 100 mods. It just depends on what you want and what they modify. If a mod affects many files, it's complex. The mod page or a referenced page should say what files they affect. If it doesn't maybe avoid it. Mod packs are usually a one thing and done, for example. Don't try to mix modpacks with other mods

Unless you want to take the time to understand how NMS mods work, you just have to take the path of least resistance

[junior hatch]

hmm, seems im still using some mods (at least one) from decompiling bnms

just found fix hardframe engine source that i havent downloaded

i heard recently my experiment to update bnms myself by decompiling it into individual luas and updating them shouldnt be done. so i might go through all mods again before removing them and download any i havent down so personally

[vale iron]

Yeah, don't do that. I created Better and haven't updated it, because it's not easy.

[junior hatch]

it was an experiment from ages ago and it was causing issues that i didnt realise

i fixed it, or i thought i did, but yeah, seems there are more mods from it that i havent downloaded (there are a couple "better nms" mods i want to keep, but the rest ill download fresh)

[junior hatch]

and i just found out one of my mods got replaced by a new project (though it was technically still working)

[junior hatch]

man, something happened with inventory rebalance both pak file upload - huge section just for both paks option

[junior hatch]

i assume glight always on all is the same thing as the glight better ship lighting station all and isnt required?

or is it an aio always on lighting pak

[vale iron]

You assume incorrectly

[junior hatch]

i literally just finished compiling, i guess i need to start again

[vale iron]

glight always on is for lights to always be on. The all variety of that mod covers all base light types.

glight better ship lighting all is for lights on landing pads to give cleaner lighting for ships. The all variety covers base landing pads, stations, Nexus, freighter

[junior hatch]

so it is a more aio for ship lighting - either all or the 5 or so separate paks?

but certainly not both

[vale iron]

Which is? They are two different mods. That's why they have different names

[junior hatch]

i was just making sure it wasnt along the same lines as that all option that was included with another mod that shouldnt have beeen in it

[vale iron]

They affect different things. Just include both mods, the all version of each

[junior hatch]

glight always on all + box + standing + etc is in the zip

yoou said previously all shouldnt have been with station pads

[vale iron]

always on all.pak is the compiled mod that includes all the different Luas. There is no Always On All. Lua

Just include all the 10 or whatever different luas

[junior hatch]

all in that case is an aio for that mod (for my own understanding)

[vale iron]

Yes

the pak file

[junior hatch]

well, i used the other luas instead so i should still be ok to go

certainly didnt use both

[vale iron]

yeah, that is what the pak file does, just puts all the luas together

[junior hatch]

so that was a good decision

[vale iron]

To make it easier to maintain for people. One file instead of 10

[junior hatch]

but the station all and station pads are a different thing

[vale iron]

slightly. I need to rename station all

Station pads just covers the pads. Station all does the pads plus all the other ambient lights

Some people like having the weird colors in stations, but it makes it hard to get a clean color on the pads

[junior hatch]

so you wouldnt need pads if you use all

[vale iron]

correct

[junior hatch]

interesting

slightly different to what i thought was said earlier, but makes more sense

[vale iron]

I need to think of better naming for those two

I might have said it incorrectly before

[junior hatch]

aio for the first seems easy

maybe pads and more for the other?

[vale iron]

ah, I might have a solution

station pads and station ambience

[junior hatch]

either way, i think i have more work to do for station all

[vale iron]

and take the pads part out of the ambience one

[junior hatch]

nice - i like

2 separate mods then?

in the end?

[vale iron]

Yes

They do different things now

[junior hatch]

lol, already?

[vale iron]

Yeah, was an easy change

[junior hatch]

gumsk is like: drops mike

excuse me while i steal those real quick

[vale iron]

Updated on Nexus now

[junior hatch]

love your work

[vale iron]

Thanks 🙂

[junior hatch]

and i completely did misunderstand the atmohover and atmoreverse mods - i thought they did separate things, one allowed hover one allowed reversing, but DUH if youre reversing carefully you can hover as well

found that one while reseting everything up

[vale iron]

hah, maybe I should archive some of these old versions?

[junior hatch]

LOL

[vale iron]

That's one mod page

Yeah, I prefer hover to reverse. I want to stop by holding back, not go in reverse

[junior hatch]

i use nexusmods' vote system thingy to keep track of mods that i like over other versions of those mods i didnt like

but not another trade mod has been retired and replaced with another and now i cant delike the original mod to remind me i dont need it

as for reversing, sometimes i come in too hot and overshoot the target, by like 10m. and its easier to reverse than swing around

but it may not have been working properly as ive always had both versions installed, ill give this a try with reversing and recheck what i prefer

[junior hatch]

instant crash after scanning with exocraft scan upgraded scanner and flying for like 5 seconds

-_-

[vale iron]

Using all luas or some paks too?

[junior hatch]

there were like 6 paks that i extracted the luas - i beleive that was fine to do so (these were mostly colour swap paks)

[vale iron]

yeah, just wondering if you had any paks in the mix. So that means you've got a lua doing something wrong. Any errors/warnings/notices?

[junior hatch]

no errors on combined pak creation - still have the last report i think, one sec

there really should only be a very small amount of decompiled luas from better nms, no more than 3 i believe, i sacrificed all the rest - so thats my first stop

32 warnings - very low for my normal attempts

[vale iron]

Most of those warnings are DDS files you are missing

[junior hatch]

missing?

most of the decompiled colour swap mods had erros from wrong mbin compiled when made - i guess i should jhust add the paks instead?

i think

[vale iron]

Yeah, those recolor mods usually don't conflict with anything

usually

But you can see where it says 'cannot find file'

It's looking for DDS files to add and can't find them

[junior hatch]

but if they didnt convert to luas properly would these dds files be missing - or was i supposed to grab more than the luas

[vale iron]

More than the Luas. It needs the DDS files it is looking for

[junior hatch]

well, im in their extracted folders - heres a question i havent asked previously - what do i need from an extracted lua? and where are they?

lua and models folder?

[vale iron]

Depends on the pak you are extracting. Sometimes just the lua, but if it's a visual mod, many need DDS files

You need the Extracted_PAK folder

But really, you need to look at the Lua to see what it is doing. See if it tries to add files

If it does, you need those files

[junior hatch]

so, not a one rule for all then?

[vale iron]

Not all mods do the same thing, so no, not one rule for all mods 🙂

Like you couldn't add custom ships mod with just a lua file, obviously

You need the models

[junior hatch]

makes sense

would the paks have these included, just cant update/recompile without lua?

[vale iron]

The paks have them

Otherwise the pak wouldn't work

[junior hatch]

right, for instance, gmultitool boltcaster colour blank
the folder has:

• exmlfiles_pak
  • models
• extracted_pak
  • gumsk
  • models
  • amumss.txt
  • lua
• pak
• lua
• report

i feel i need the exml folder contents - the models folder

and if this is the case, is this a globalmefti folder?

(sorry my brain goes to mush when modding nms - takes me months to get it to work, then i find more things ive done wrong from the last several times it worked, then i stop playing for weeks and it updates starting everything again)

[vale iron]

Look in the Lua to see what it says at Add File

[junior hatch]

hmmm - no, this isnt a global mefti folder
i have 3 modlist folders based on colours that sync to my game contents and my pc's rgb

a global mefti blue colour swap would conflict with the red or purple/green setups

so... i guess i have to extract the lua and mefti folder, run through amumss to recompile x update it to a pak again then add just that to the modlist folder

[vale iron]

You need to look at the Lua file 🙂

[junior hatch]

(yeah models/common & models/effects)

[vale iron]

No

        {
            FILE_DESTINATION         = "GUMSK/BOLTGUNWHITE"..ColorName..".DDS",
            ["EXTERNAL_FILE_SOURCE"]     = "BOLTGUNWHITE"..ColorName..".DDS",
        },
        {
            FILE_DESTINATION         = "GUMSK/BOLTGUNNOISEGRADIENT"..ColorName..".DDS",
            ["EXTERNAL_FILE_SOURCE"]     = "BOLTGUNNOISEGRADIENT"..ColorName..".DDS",
        },
    },```

[junior hatch]

ah there it is

[vale iron]

The external file source is where the file is coming from and where you need it to be for the mod to compile properly

Are you using subfolders in AMUMSS Mod Manager?

[junior hatch]

(never opened an lua before - another thing it seems ive been doing wrong all this time)

amumss yes

[vale iron]

not just AMUMSS, AMUMSS Mod Manager

If you want to do much with mods, you need to be very precise with your reading

[junior hatch]

yes - modscript manager

[vale iron]

Ok, great

Thanks

That's the folder setup for that mod

But only include the DDS and Lua you need

[junior hatch]

right - i had no idea how to add additional files to the modscript

[vale iron]

When the Lua runs through AMM, it will grab the DDS from the root of that mod folder

It doesn't use MEFTI or GlobalMEFTI because I don't want all the DDS in every version of the mod; I only want the colors for that specific Lua included in that PAK

[junior hatch]

yes this example exactly didnt make sense to me before

how to add custom files without it being mefti

[vale iron]

Yeah, for that you use ADD_FILES and tell it what the filename is

[junior hatch]

1 - does the folder you showed need to be called that (gumsk mods uncommon) or anything i can remember
2 - i guess after decompiling a pak into an lua, i now have to edit the lua?

[vale iron]

No, that's just how I have my AMM subfolders structured

[junior hatch]

i thought

*that

[vale iron]

The contents of the folder are what matter, and how you select it in AMM

Like that

The way that Lua is written, it will always look in the same folder as where the Lua is located. So put the DDS file(s) with the Lua

But you have to look at the Lua to find out how each one is built

Luckily, most of your warnings are from my recolor mods, and I build almost all of them the same way

[junior hatch]

so:
Modscript/<ModList Folder Name>/<Extra Files Folder Name>/Models/<Common & Effects Folders>

[vale iron]

Sorry, I don't understand

[junior hatch]

yeah fair enough - as in "C:/" Directory Path

Folder Setup

but

[vale iron]

I still don't understand at all. I don't know if that's a question, and if so, what it is asking

[junior hatch]

i just saw its the actual dds files not necessarily the models and effects

[vale iron]

Hmm, I think I figured out what you are saying. It's not necessarily the MODELS or EFFECTS subfolders in the TOOLS\Unpacked Mods folder, but it could be

You have to look at the Lua to see what it is doing

Again, there's no universal rule

[junior hatch]

right (im always on a different thought wave length to everyone else)

the structure of the extra files - in this case, the dds files are added to a sub folder within the modlist folder
eg: .../modscript/<insert modlist folder name>/<insert extra files folder name>/.dds files

[vale iron]

For the boltcaster colors mod, there is no subfolder for the extra files. They go in the mod folder with the lua

[junior hatch]

RIGHt - thats where i was getting caught

[vale iron]

Some mods do have a subfolder, though. Just have to see how the ADD_FILES section is setup

Some use MEFTI, never know until you look

You probably NEVER want to use GlobalMEFTI

[junior hatch]

in this case, the files needed are in the "extracted_pak" folder not the "exmlfiles_pak folder"

[vale iron]

Correct, the unpack process first extracts all the contents to Extracted_PAK, then looks for any MBIN files in that folder and decompiles those into the EXMLFILES folder

[junior hatch]

so would that be a rule for all? (please...)

[vale iron]

So a DDS isn't going to get decompiled and won't be in the EXMLFILES folder

The rule for all would be: look at the lua

It's like driving a car, there's no universal rule for what direction to turn. You need to look at the instructions

[junior hatch]

i guess in that illustration the process for each time driving is the same just the destination changes

i was hoping for some autonomy in checking this (like ignore the extracted pak folder)

[vale iron]

Ignore the EXMLFILES folder

For what you are doing, you will never need that

[junior hatch]

right "loose" headcannon accepted

[vale iron]

You want the Lua and maybe some other files from EXTRACTED_PAK

[junior hatch]

so - final question before i go off on another trek to get my game working again

if the lua doesnt "ctrl+f" add_file, it not necessary?

as in, its always add files?

[vale iron]

I can't say 100% 🙂 If the mod was relying on a MEFTI folder, then it wouldn't be using ADD_FILES

[junior hatch]

good thing i asked

[vale iron]

Let me look for an example

[junior hatch]

neutron cannon blue doesnt have add files

[vale iron]

Neutron Cannon Colors uses all Lua, no extra files

[junior hatch]

well that one was easy

[vale iron]

Just search your report for WARNING and that will show you all the places it couldn't find a file

That will cover all ADD_FILES issues

MEFTI are not as easy to find

[junior hatch]

...
i did before while talking to you, and couldnt find the start of the mod info to find out what it was
...

scrolled for ages - guess id have to scroll further

[vale iron]

Should be a few lines above the warning

[junior hatch]

-_-
i literally was looking for the name of the mod at the start of the info

[vale iron]

You might want to rename "No Man's Sky" mods folder to NMS. That's getting to be a long path and any kind of special characters could be troublesome

[junior hatch]

right

are all textures mefti (they have been so far)

• just got to phase beam colour

[craggy verge]

Y'all should mod an unnecessarily big black hole that sucks everything into it with the force of a thousand suns

[vale iron]

Phase Beam color is only lua, no extra files

[junior hatch]

i went into a black hole during an expedition - broke my progress and couldnt finish it

... blackblue?

[vale iron]

Unfortunately, I don't believe there's any kind of actual pull to a black hole in NMS; they're just a visual effect surrounding a point in space that you fly into

[craggy verge]

[junior hatch]

this phase beam has add_files

[dusk saffron]

put a LARGE AByssal Horror in it LOL

[vale iron]

Oh, sorry, was looking at Phase Beam Mining, not Phase Beam Colors

one sec

[craggy verge]

Y'all should mod an entire galaxy specifically designed just to piss you off.

I actually have no idea wtf Ixm even talking about. I'm just tired af

[vale iron]

You want LaserCoreBlack and LaserBlue DDS files

[junior hatch]

i hear that - im trying to mod my game but my brain went to sleep

[vale iron]

They go in the same folder as the Lua, not in a MEFTI

[junior hatch]

right so not all textures are mefti

[vale iron]

My first example was not MEFTI 😄

[craggy verge]

Pff. Y'all got the DDS whike I got the 3DS with Smash Brothers on it 😎

[junior hatch]

didnt notice it being a texture

[vale iron]

DDS is an image file, thus texture

[craggy verge]

It's a jank ass console in my eyes

Aight imma go pass out and forget I even went here

[vale iron]

Sleep well

[junior hatch]

so. general rule for your mods:

• if it says add files to textures - its mefti
• if it says add files to gumsk - its main lodlist folder
  ?

[vale iron]

...no

        {
            FILE_DESTINATION         = "GUMSK/GUMSKLASERCORE"..ColorCore..".DDS",
            EXTERNAL_FILE_SOURCE     = "GUMSKLASERCORE"..ColorCore..".DDS",
        },
        {
            FILE_DESTINATION         = "GUMSK/GUMSKLASER"..Color..".DDS",
            EXTERNAL_FILE_SOURCE     = "GUMSKLASER"..Color..".DDS",
        },
    },```

Look at the EXTERNAL_FILE_SOURCE . If there's no folder listed before the filename, it goes with the Lua

MEFTI is an automatic include and wouldn't appear in the Lua at all

Honestly, I think you're too tired right now to be working on this

[junior hatch]

then... why do my other texture mods work? this makes no sense

i give up on the game for a few weeks and sacrifice my 3rd expedition

brain is numb

[vale iron]

You are completely capable of playing without mods. I just mean that I'm saying things and either I'm not saying things clearly or you are misreading them. You aren't making any progress right now

I think with sleep you might make better progress

[junior hatch]

yeah and that always happens with me - communication issues with others cause im thinking apples theyre thinking oranges but were trying to explain describe fruit to each other with no exceptions on what the object can be

its been diagnosed

i am generally a tech savvy guy (im the resident tech support for the family)

so its weird that i cant get my head round this - and the rules seem to be different (or explained further) every time i start again

[vale iron]

If it's a mod that doesn't change textures or colors, you probably don't need to worry about extra files (probably)

[junior hatch]

i havent used the dds files for your colour mods so far fine
but that doesnt mean i dont have a list of bugs forming voltron to crash my game because of ithem all

[vale iron]

You can be tech savvy and not think like a programmer. That's not any better or worse, just different. Programming requires very precise, careful approaches to everything. Don't make assumptions, make sure everything matches perfectly, etc etc

Right, without the DDS files, it would just not do anything. Or actually you'd probably have blank textures or black textures where there should be colors

[junior hatch]

i guess my main issue is im still thinking like minecraft modpack creation but this is oranges

[vale iron]

I haven't done minecraft modding, so I don't have any idea 🙂

[junior hatch]

as in im drawing knowledge from that experience

[vale iron]

I think you're stack is close to working. Just need to clean up a few things, and those would necessarily be edge cases that don't fit the basic explanations

[junior hatch]

i learned how to make modpacks in minecraft by reading the error log - but i dont have that with this game, so ive got one hand tied behind my back

those would necessarily be edge cases that don't fit the basic explanations

this is my life

basically, if i have to contact it support myself, ive already exhausted the first 3 levels of support staff

like i learned something new the other day

• BAM - power outage for a few minutes, shut down my pc of note
• power came back on and i set up music on pc again and went back to sleep
• 4 hours later, pc still doesnt have internet
  the answer?
• my brand new router has all my devices with static ips, but when the power came back on, the security camera switched ip to the pc ip and the pc ip didnt change

[vale iron]

look for those add files errors and put the DDS files where they need to be, then run the stack again and you'll get a pretty clean result. Then just need to track down the few remaining issues

and if there's still a crash, find out what is causing that

[junior hatch]

sounds simple

ill start again tomorrow on that - need to bring my brain up to operational level again

[vale iron]

I used to do networking work, so I know what you mean on that point

[junior hatch]

but how the static ip of one device changed to that of another device's static ip i have no idea

[vale iron]

Most likely the security camera is setup to use dynamic, so it just grabbed whatever was given (usually .1 or .2), which happened to be the same as the static IP of the PC. Make sure the camera is setup to not use DHCP and make your router DHCP pool separate from your static IPs. I usually put static IPs at the top of the range, around 200+, and the DHCP addresses start around 10 or 100 and end before 200

[junior hatch]

i know those words - i swear
but ill relook at them... later... when they make sense again

they will, i just gotta bludge for a bit

[junior hatch]

exocraft scan upgrade needed metadata folder - maybe this is why my game crashes after exocraft scanning on exped... -_-

[hardy aurora]

@junior hatch

No gifs in this channel please

[junior hatch]

waah

had a cuppa tea - helped

i think mefti files and addtional .dds file in main modlist folders are correctly setup

[vale iron]

Strange, why would an exocraft scanning mod need MEFTI

[junior hatch]

it said add_files metadata

[vale iron]

That could be a problem. If it's including an extra file, it's likely an MBIN file, and if it hasn't been updated, it would cause problems

what mod?

[junior hatch]

exocraft scanner upgrade

[vale iron]

link?

[junior hatch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1558

last updated 31 oct 24

[vale iron]

ok, lmonk is reliable

let me look a little more

The file it is adding it is making itself

You don't need to include anything other than the Lua

It builds the file inside the Lua, then adds it

[junior hatch]

right... i was just looking for add files and those files were in the extracted pak - let me double check if i missed an original lua and went pak to begin with

(this time round, not the last couple of days)

[vale iron]

The lua is in the ZIP file from the Nexus page

[junior hatch]

there deffinitely is an lua

and... its not in the base game paks - just add missing ship trails and no overlay texture there

other than the colour swaps no other paks
(so why was it in my extracted lua folder?)

[vale iron]

It would get extracted because it's in the PAK. That doesn't mean it was added by MEFTI

[junior hatch]

not what i meant, if the lua was in the base collection, i wouldnt have needed to extract the lua from the pak

i downloaded everything fresh, and extracted the zips and collated them into particular folders

[vale iron]

Ah, ok

[junior hatch]

this implies it was in both the base lua folder and base pak folder

but... i dont remember that - either way, i deleted the existing one in my lodlist folder and copied the orginal lua from the base lua folder

damn it - i got the windows for the blue and purplexgreen modlist folders swapped and the .dds files for each went into each other

time to go again

custom mods galore and gGUI Clean MultiPlayer seems to be throwing errors of missing files, but none were included in the fresh download, and i used the luas included i believe

will recopy those over again, in case of reasons

[junior hatch]

so... i need that?

[vale iron]

clean multiplayer

uses that

[junior hatch]

i decompiled the pak and found the folders that were missing in the report

there was player and building folders missing too

so i decompiled it, thanks for the idea (i get thats not what you said, but still)

and now im looking at the actual site, my god i think ive been struggling with several things not knowing its been this mod the whole time, now ive fixed it, im removing it

i need the green landing markers and save beacons at the very least

i think this dates back to my experiment for decompiling better nms

custom mods galore, i just decompiled it (to check) and its got 2 folders of mbins, which may be the missing files from the lua freshly downloaded

do i need these? if yes, where do mbins go, mefti?

and the reason i ask is that it has add_files
but theres no info in these sections of the lua

[vale iron]

If there is no data in the ADD_FILES, then it's just a template they are using and there's nothing being added by the Lua. Any MBIN modified by a Lua will show up in the extracted PAK, even if it's not added to the PAK as a whole. So if my Lua changes one value in the PlayerGlobals file, the whole PlayerGlobals.MBIN file will be in the extracted PAK folder. That's why I said it's not crystal clear when you need included files and when you don't.

What parts of Clean Multiplayer do you want?

[junior hatch]

this is what i expected the answer to be, but good to confirm

im not even sure, i think originially my main goal with that bnms experiement to keep it updated myself was to maostly grab all the unreleased g-- mods believing they would be better than their released counterparts if any

therefore, when i kept it, i doubt i even checked what it did beyond being a bnms g-- mod, even while downloading all the mods fresh and ignoring the bnms versions

an example of that was gsentinel less annoying laylaps

(which ive removed this time around)

[vale iron]

Yeah, that one might work, but I just don't know

Clean Multiplayer is mostly used for hiding comm balls

But has some other stuff

I can make a stripped down version of the Lua if I know what you do want in it

[junior hatch]

the two i mentioned sort of started working recently and i didnt know why

theres no need for that, youve done a heap of work for me already, and i dont feel its needed to go further into that mod (as much for your sake as it is my own sanity getting this working again)

[vale iron]

If you didn't have BLANK.DDS, Clean Multiplayer wouldn't be hiding lines. That's what the blank does

[junior hatch]

i see

[vale iron]

So if you added blank, it would start hiding the landing rings and the line for the save beacon

[junior hatch]

i dont remember adding blank so maybe it did it itself last round of downloads the other day - i kinda forget when it started but that would make most sense

warnings down to 13!!!

[vale iron]

congrats

[junior hatch]

i placed gship starborn and utopia colour swaps into mefti - fixed now - so thats a few less to contend with

[vale iron]

Hmm, those don't use MEFTI

[junior hatch]

starting to understand the REPORT file - this is the file i needed to look through, this is reminding me of minecraft modpack building

[vale iron]

What colors are you using for each?

(and CyberCrank's Starborn Runner skins are far better, imo)\

[junior hatch]

black/blue and blue/white
black/red and red/black
purple/black and purple/white

or something close to that

[vale iron]

huh? that's six sets of colors for two mods

[junior hatch]

thats for utopia and starborn in each folder

based on each colour set in modscript

[vale iron]

Can you screenshot it? It doesn't make sense to me

[junior hatch]

i have a set of red, blue and purple x green (aka: EVA-01) folders

[vale iron]

ohhh

I think I understand

[junior hatch]

.../modscript/modlist blue (tesseract)
.../modscript/modlist red (atlas)
.../modscript/modlist purple (EVA-01)

so each folder has the appropriate set of colour swap mods

• gsentinel quad & laylaps
• multitool & ship weapons
• etc

[vale iron]

For BLUE.BLACK Starborn, your folder should look like this:

Same for the other colors and Utopia

[junior hatch]

yep, i just decoded that within the report folder now im starting to learn how to read it

[vale iron]

Coolio

[junior hatch]

i just crammed them into mefti and the report said main folder idiot

so clear now

[vale iron]

I wish it really did say that. Would love it

[junior hatch]

it may be... clearer for some if it did

myself included

theoretically just cmg warnings left now

and i dont know how to fix those

[vale iron]

He doesn't usually use Lua

[junior hatch]

oh no, and ive used both the lua and pak

[vale iron]

What mod?

[junior hatch]

cmg - custom mods galore i did decompile the pak and found mbins

[vale iron]

ohhh, I was thinking of CMK, the mod author, sorry

[junior hatch]

but it also had a lua

ah

was starting to panic (the lua is broken)

[vale iron]

That's why I was confused. CMK makes his own tool that 'competes' with AMUMSS. Great tool, but uses c#, not Lua

It's a great tool, though

[junior hatch]

but cmg has a disclaimer saying its wip
so... maybe? not?

[vale iron]

10th of November, and he's a reliable author, too

[junior hatch]

its similar to another mod i got - maybe theyre the same? im not sure

[vale iron]

files affected haven't changed in the past couple of weeks

It does affect four common files

METADATA\REALITY\TABLES\NMS_REALITY_GCPRODUCTTABLE.MBIN
METADATA\REALITY\TABLES\NMS_REALITY_GCPROCEDURALTECHNOLOGYTABLE.MBIN
METADATA\REALITY\TABLES\NMS_REALITY_GCTECHNOLOGYTABLE.MBIN
GCDEBUGOPTIONS.GLOBAL.MBIN```

And since he's adding stuff into those files, could cause issues if you have other mods affecting those files

[junior hatch]

those look familar

*from the decompiled experiment wondering if the lua works

[vale iron]

Yeah, try just grabbing the Lua again and deleting anything else you had related to it

[junior hatch]

lol - yep seems very similar in priniple o another mod - so maybe i doubled up on features here

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1944
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2419

[vale iron]

oh yeah, those likely wouldn't play well together

[junior hatch]

same author - but are these the same thing? feel like they are

woo! i found a conflict!! several have been found by me uploading my reports and modlists, but i found this one

[vale iron]

CMG is new tech that does interesting stuff. CraftUM lets you craft the things you would normally buy from tech vendors

[junior hatch]

probably shouldnt have both, im thinking the interesting stuff (cmg), thoughts?

[vale iron]

I don't use either, so not sure

[junior hatch]

9 warnings now - i decided to test with both kept

[vale iron]

huzzah

[junior hatch]

i didnt crash heading to the next alien monolith

BUT

i did something different

after scanning, i usually marked it by holding E
but then i gotta get out of the mech with E and i kept pressing it while still highlighting the next monolith

this time i deliberately moved off it first then exited

deliberately did it this time round and no issue

[vale iron]

Sounds good. Get those other warnings cleaned up (notices would be good, too)

[junior hatch]

5 notices

each time

FINALLY finished the exped mission for language! - so many crashes

[pulsar igloo]

my game crashes because of some mods installed
doesn't give me information on which ones, i kinda hoped it would be like minecraft forge where it just threw a helpful console log at your face
do i have to find another log file or do the grueling turn-each-one-off-and-on-again thing

[junior hatch]

oh oh oh - i got this one

use amumss mod manager is best
but when building mods (i assume youre combing mods to avoid clashes), read the REPORT file - this is when i was looking for in minecraft on nms

if you dont combine/merge your mods they probs wont work well

the idea is to get NO errors, preferrably no warnings

[pulsar igloo]

will it interfere with vortex (e.g. screw up the mods in the staging folder)?

[junior hatch]

and now im out - i dont know vortex

[pulsar igloo]

ah fuck, only one way to figure

the thing is 130 mb

[junior hatch]

i get the lua files for each mod, through them in a folder and run them through amumss to rebuild them so theyre all compatible with the latest game files

*without waiting for a mod update™️

*theoreticallly

[vale iron]

Vortex is highly un-recommended by NMS modders

It adds almost nothing and creates problems

Net negative

Post a screenshot of your PCBANKS folder and MODS folder

[junior hatch]

damn i thought they were responding to me and was confused for a bit

[vale iron]

First, delete everything out of MODS that isn't a PAK file. You can move it all into a subfolder if you want

[junior hatch]

you have luas and paks

luas rebuild the pak - theyre handy if you get into amumss

[hearty wasp]

you should not have AMUMSS installed anywhere in your game folder

or in the primary drive, optimally

you can make a new folder in your secondary drive's root and install AMUMSS there

[pulsar igloo]

even the folders

[vale iron]

Folders don't matter to NMS

the other stuff doesn't matter either, but it makes it hard to look at

Best to just have PAKs there

[pulsar igloo]

why is REPORT in lua (thought it would be text)

[vale iron]

Because the author likes Lua. It's just a formatted text file, basically

[junior hatch]

its wroks with notepad++

[pulsar igloo]

they do them

[pulsar igloo]

you might be a lifeline

[vale iron]

They do them? I don't understand

[junior hatch]

ive hard a hard learning curve that i remember what ive done

[pulsar igloo]

third person 'you do you' i think

[vale iron]

Ahh, I see. Thank you for clarifying

'To each their own' might be more clear in the future 🙂

Unless you're trying to make fetch a thing

[solid hawk]

Because it allows for some formatting options wouldn't have in .txt within major editors like npp and vs code. 🙂

[junior hatch]

got to my first space station since fixing glight better ship lighting station ambiance & pads

amazing compared to the rusted look i had prior

but just discovered several mods that i had deleted restored themselves? glight bsl all is back in all three colour modlist folders

ill have to do things again after im done playing

[solid hawk]

If using Vortex, that'll happen. Stop using Vortex

[real heron]

hey guys im new to save editting how do i do it

[solid hawk]

Get save editor of your choice, load save, make whatever changes you want, save changes. See individual save editor sites for more detailed instructions and guidance.

[timid burrow]

Modder entities

I have noticed (and sanctioned the construction of) a tower in the Vy’keen settlement. If that asset is in the game is there any way to create a mod to use them for base building? If so, how do we go about it?
Also, is there any mod or a set of mods that unlock hidden base parts to be used for base building?

[vale iron]

UBB and Eucli-ea

Some of those settlement things are proc-based, not a fixed model

[vale iron]

@junior hatch Updated station pad lighting

Updated for 5.x, finally
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3056

[junior hatch]

omg! its happening!!
the best mod is back

[junior hatch]

ooh - i have to redo things anyway due to a double up of mods that somehow restored themselves after i deleted them

time to update while things are working!

OMG!! the rebuilding files for BNMS!
in one download!!
ima deck my game so hard it'll kick itself out of the simulation

[vale iron]

Let me know if there are things you think should be added. I'll need to contact authors, test, recalculate donation points, etc etc, but I do want to include more.

[junior hatch]

purple+green ship colours (but thats just me)

as for starborn/utopia colours, does rebuilding them work? or am i dependant on updates?

seems the extracted luas require dds files (thats fine). but the dds files do not match the names required by the lua (like there isnt a colour in the dds name but amumss throws an error as it requires a name in the dds files)

if rebuilding them works, can i just rename the matching dds files to match what amumss/the lua is requiring?

[vale iron]

Ship colors wouldn't be part of Better, as that's more subjective. Texture mods don't usually need rebuilding; 5.0 fucked everything up, though, where a bunch of image files had to be updated, then the mods rebuilt. I'm pretty sure the same won't happen anytime soon

[junior hatch]

oh, that ship colours question wasnt a response for better nms, my bad for bad phrasing

in that case, ill just use the .pak files then

as for better nms inclusions:

• Black Space & Nebule (blacker space colours, more vibrant nebule)
• Colourful Starfield (clearer star colours)
• More Options for Starship Textures?
• Mech Customising (unless you're fixing gmech hardframe colours to work with the Liquidator; this allows colourising of the Mech from the Suommoning Station)
• Multi Pass (Bronze (v.1.0), Silver (v2.0) and Gold (vanilla v3.0) Atlas Passes)
• No Empty Crates (to complement Quick Crates, hardly a game breaking cheat)

these out of the mods i use seem more along the lines of Better NMS's QoL Goal

[vale iron]

I do need to update gMech skins to use the customization screen, but I have to get comfortable with doing that, and I have to figure out how to handle the textured ones I made, like digital camo

[junior hatch]

added new better nms luas and mefti files to my tesseract (blue) modlist folder and ran it through amumss...

4 warnings and 5 notices

• 4 warnings from cmg (it would have these as im still using craftable upgrade mods) (Some KEY_WORDS not found, script result may be wrong!)
• 4 notices for cmg (again, see above) (Could not find ["PRECEDING_KEY_WORDS"] = {"TradeSettings",<Insert 1 of 4 different Key Words: Ship/Suit/Weap/Vehicle>TechSpecialist","OptionalProducts")
• 1 notice from atmoreverse-pulsespeeddefined (Added .pak extension to MOD_FILENAME) not sure what it is or how its fixed but is the only "non expected" thing that shows up in the report

[vale iron]

Not sure on any of those. They all sound like they are native to their own scripts

[junior hatch]

• my fast mouse menu actions is working again

• my running mod is working again, yay! (maybe due to the return of gplayer bnms or such)
  (wasnt working last run through of mod rebuilding)

• i had some graphical "rgb static" over my cockpit controls of my starborn runner while reentering a planet (not sure if its due to specific mod updates or mod conflict)

• and i cannot scan trees/shrubs behind laylaps after the bnms update (unsure if it did before as i didnt know what it did)

[junior hatch]

in that case it shouldnt™️ matter

[vale iron]

Did you remove less annoying Laylaps?

If you removed that and noticed that you now can't scan things as often, then it was doing what it was supposed to and I should add it back and publish it

[wintry onyx]

Anyone have a NMS mod tutorial Google sheet or anything?

[junior hatch]

so less annoying laylaps is in the latest nms rebuild files download, why i tested it specifically

as it merged with everything else, i cant test without it right now (trying to get to bed early - aka at 1am), but can try that tomorrow night sometime

*and the test resulted in couldnt scann anything it was fractionally in front of

[fallow meadow]

!faq-modding @wintry onyx

[hardy aurora]

@wintry onyx
-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[vale iron]

Less annoying Laylayps won't break anything I can imagine. It's just a question of if it actually doesn anything useful

[fallow meadow]

@wintry onyx If you are interested in creating your own mods, you may be interested in joining the NMS Modding Discord

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[sinful dagger]

speedrun question

with gbase boundary

is past the regular build limit still uploaded and visible normally?

[hearty wasp]

ye

base is base

and base gets uploaded

[vale iron]

Base boundaries are a restriction on what you can do, not on what can be uploaded nor on what can be seen by others

[brisk berry]

I installed a mod to make the living ships quest go faster but it does not seem to be working I changed it to "ENABLEMODS.TXT" then made a folder called "Mods" then added the pak to it but nothing has changed as its still 19 hours

[fallow meadow]

Is it a mod from Nexus Mods? When was it last updated? As for the folder, make sure to name it MODS and have it inside PCBANKS

[hearty wasp]

post MODS folder

do it like this

[brisk berry]

directory it correct btw

[fallow meadow]

Is this the mod?
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3046

[hearty wasp]

"directory visible" as shown in the example

also almost certainly old and modifying a deprecated file

[fallow meadow]

August 9th 2024, for a very early Worlds update (5.04)

@brisk berry Although we have not seen the directory in the image posted, if correct, you might want to give this one a try instead: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1921

[hearty wasp]

I could go through all the comparison files to see when the old mission tables got deprecated but it'd be simpler if they just link the mod page and let us see which files are listed

[ocean tangle]

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[vale iron]

Entirely subjective. Depends on what you like

[ocean tangle]

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[vale iron]

For building, you want Beyond Base Building (BBB), gBase Boundaries, UBB, Eucli-ea, maybe one or two others

For ships, what do you want in ships?

[ocean tangle]

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[vale iron]

There are custom ships, reskins, expanded fabricator options

[ocean tangle]

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[vale iron]

Custom ships: Ships of Moar and gShip Custom Ships

skins, just search NexusMods for the ship type you want to reskin. Almost entirely limited to expedition reward ships

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1891
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1064

[ocean tangle]

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[vale iron]

They have slightly different approaches, and we try to keep the models completely separate between the two mods. But Winder does have a way to merge the two

For mine, they purposefully don't spawn in the wild. For Winder's they do spawn, replacing shuttles

[ocean tangle]

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[vale iron]

Unlimited, but you will start having conflicts very quickly. Then you either need to get rid of some mods or learn how to merge them

[timid burrow]

So these two are for maximum base building options and freedom?

[vale iron]

They both add items that are not normally available in base building; however, they would not be visible to visitors without the mods, and if you load the game without the mods, the items would be auto-deleted by the EXE

It just depends if you want maximum freedom, or some balance with multi-platform/survivability

[timid burrow]

I see.

[vale iron]

BBB and gBase don't add new items and would be available to everyone

I think UBB is only items that exist in the files but aren't normally buildable, while Eucli-ea adds new items (along with other hidden items already existing). But, both don't work for multiplayer without the mod, and get auto-deleted

[timid burrow]

Also, even if some of the buildings are procgen to have a “cylindrical tower” in game would mean that asset was built and placed for the procgen code to use. That’s what I meant by having a mod that uses such assets.

[timid burrow]

So UBB

I will test that out

[vale iron]

It very well could be that each level of that tower is procedural, so there's no one model that has a tower, but multiple levels

[timid burrow]

Even in that case a cylindrical asset needs to be in game.

[vale iron]

I think Eucli-ea is more robust, but I don't know for sure

[timid burrow]

Ok, will test out both

[vale iron]

If you want to use both at once, you also need Build Frame RECTUM

(yes, a Winder name 🙂 )

Easiest to just use one at a time

[timid burrow]

Lovely name… lol

[worldly lagoon]

Am I wrong for using a save editor to unlock all the expedition rewards I couldn’t go back to play?

[vale iron]

You play this game how you want. It's non-competitive

It's like solitaire, can't really cheat at that

[brazen nymph]

is there any mod with which you can get the xbox preorder exclusive helmet in the current version?

[vale iron]

consumerism might

[shadow lance]

The save editors can do this

[brazen nymph]

I do not have one

[shadow lance]

Ahhh, can look into NomNom or goatfungus - they're similar and pretty simple to use if there isn't a mod that can do this for you

[north osprey]

Are mods primarily client based?

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fresh arch]

3rd link for more details

[north osprey]

Awesome, thanks.

[frigid grove]

@split condor Here you go, they don't like me talking about it in the #nms-expedition channel, lol

https://cwmonkey.github.io/nms-expeditions/

Not technically a mod, more of a config hack but 🤷

[split condor]

ah cool, and this would add the loot/stuff gained during the expedition to my main profile? or would it be its own separate thing?

[frigid grove]

Yeah it'll unlock everything account-wide just like normal expeditions

[split condor]

nice, thanks

[mossy perch]

So, i wanna install a mod, and there are these MEFTI - TEXTURE folders. The problem is, in the instruction, there is no guide whatsoever in where to put the folders. what am i supposed to do?

[vale iron]

In what guide?

[mossy perch]

in the mod folder

[vale iron]

There's a guide in the mod folder?

Do you mean the MODS folder, or some sort of folder included in a mod you downloaded

[mossy perch]

the latter

i mean the usual like this

sorry bad england

[vale iron]

Ok, what are the contents? It's ok, we just need to be precise

[mossy perch]

aight a minute

[vale iron]

I'm not trying to make you look stupid, but I want to walk you through the thought process

[mossy perch]

so there is this mod

[vale iron]

What's in the installation instructions.txt?

[mossy perch]

there is this folder

[vale iron]

Focus on the installation instructions

[mossy perch]

and there is this folder

yeah in the installation instruction there is no mention of the 2 folders

[vale iron]

What does it say?

[mossy perch]

hence why I asked

wait

Freighter Retexture (Golden Freighter)
v. 1.6
by hemis FEAR
Lua created by both Lowkie and I.

UPDATED FOR WORLDS 5.28

DESCRIPTION OF FREIGHTER RETEXTURE VERSIONS:

Normal - this is in the middle as far as shine goes.
Full Matte (FM) - as the name states, it is fully matte.
Squared - the textures are raised and gives a more pronounced, less streamlined look (most evident on Capital Freighters.) This has the same shine / gloss as Normal.
Super Shine (SS) - shine to the max!
Super Metallic (SMetal) - metallic to the max! With this version you will find the new and improved Golden Freighter!

Note: mods such as DUD'S Sky - Colors can bring out the gloss even further, so keep that in mind. Super Shine can be almost too shiny with that mod installed.

To install:

1. Navigate to Content> GAMEDATA> PCBANKS folder (inside of your NMS installation folder)
2. Rename DISABLEMODS file to ENABLEMODS
3. Create MODS folder inside of the same directory (PCBANKS)
4. Copy one of the following versions into that MODS folder:

"_hF_FreighterRetexture_1.55.pak"
"_hF_freighterRetexture_FM_1.55.pak"
"_hF_freighterRetexture_Squared_1.55.pak"
"_hF_freighterRetexture_SS_1.55.pak"
"_hF_freighterRetexture_SMetal_1.55.pak"

[vale iron]

Do those exact four steps. Installation will then be complete

[mossy perch]

that in which i already understood

[vale iron]

The other files are for building the mod, if you need

[mossy perch]

ah

that is it

the answer i seeked

[vale iron]

Yep, just those four steps

coolio

[mossy perch]

thank you my good sir

[hearty wasp]

Why di you need to AMUMSS a texture mod

[vale iron]

anytime

[hearty wasp]

Am I missing something

[vale iron]

I doubt it

[mossy perch]

i dont understand your question but i was just confused what to do with the MEFTI - TEXTURE folders and nothing else

[hearty wasp]

Texture files don't get written by AMUMSS

The point of AMUMSS is it deals in exmls and mbins

[fresh arch]

The instructions mention LUA though

So maybe some material MBIN is being modified

[hearty wasp]

Then that's fair

[junior hatch]

why cant i use some chairs and the bed? like the weapon rack, why is it cosmetic only and i cannot store mutlitools in it? cupboard doors dont open or function?

why are there no mods that i can find (by searching for furniture, chair or bed) that that allow this?

is it a game restriction?

also, i cant find a mod, i wonder if anyone knows of one

each minotaur/mech armour piece (hardframe, left arm, right arm, legs) has 3 variations - Base, Sentinel and Liquidator.

id love to be able to pick which of the 3 variants to display over the other (cosmetically) while keeping the fully upgraded functionality

is this a thing? if not, is it even possible?

[hearty wasp]

because HG didn't implement them

[junior hatch]

game restriction i figured that

[hearty wasp]

you can't have something if it's not made

[junior hatch]

so... is that in response to the exomech question or about the furniture?

and if furniture youre implying if the game doesnt have it included you cant modify it to do it

and if the exomech, youre implying the mod concept i asked about hasnt been made before

both are equally applicable to the statement

[hearty wasp]

the first one

[junior hatch]

i see

[hearty wasp]

I'm not sure about the mech one

[junior hatch]

well thanks for that info at least - really just want to be able to lay down from time to time

[hearty wasp]

I can think of ways of making possible but unsure if it's entirely feasible

[junior hatch]

(i literally made a bedroom in my base to do that, just to find out i cant)

[hearty wasp]

the main thing is that the game doesn't really have a lying down anim

chair wise HG just didn't out the necessary components to make the old chairs sittable

[solid hawk]

We cannot add what doesn't already exist in vanilla. No new behaviors or actions possible with NMS

[real heron]

anyone ever have the issue where you used the save editor but when you go to redeem stuff it doesnt redeem anything??

[vale iron]

Need way more information. Which save editor? What 'stuff'? How did you redeem said stuff? How are you expecting it to appear in game? How does it actually appear in game?

[real heron]

nothing edited in appearance just simply goatfungus and unlocked everything from expedition synthesis but it wont fully redeem

see it just gets stuck here

i switched saves and it seemed to work ok but this is the save i was trying to make my main

[vale iron]

My best guess is to check your 'redeemed specials' or something like that in the JSON

I assume you unlocked those by using the 'Account' tab?

[hearty wasp]

If it's a ship it could jist be a game bug

[real heron]

Yes

Also starting a new save seemed to do it for me so now i just need to add all the Craftables to the save

[solar fern]

Is there a mod where you can build a spacestation

?

[vale iron]

No

[abstract mesa]

who i got to talk to to get all the expedition ships on xbox 😂 😂

[shadow lance]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[abstract mesa]

i luv u thx

[abstract mesa]

you have to pay for their service?

[shadow lance]

There are free and paid tiers both

[abstract mesa]

gotcha

[solid hawk]

With NMS, if it doesn't exist in vanilla, mods can't add. We can change values for existing properties in static game files, is all we can do. Can't add new features or functionality.

[arctic kestrel]

whats the max health sheilds and energy you can have in the game

[last haven]

sidenote @arctic kestrel ; avoid copy pasting the same message across multiple channels, you could trip a spam filter

[arctic kestrel]

oh sorry

[solid hawk]

200/100/100

[arctic kestrel]

im making a new save and i was wondering if there is a guide/spreadsheet that i can use that shows ids and tags and stuff for skipping missions in the game by using a save editor and editing the raw json file?

[solid hawk]

I do not believe there is such a thing. You can feel free to make own though. 🙂

Here's where you say, "But that would take too much time and work"

That's why nobody else has ever made this.

[marsh eagle]

Someone just made a post about that on the C&S hub funnily #629389071718023222 message

[arctic kestrel]

na i would i just dont know how it functions

[arctic kestrel]

i cant see that channel

[solid hawk]

Nice

[solid hawk]

You need to join the server, would be first step.

[solid hawk]

The link at #nms-modding message, should take you there...

Else, https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[blazing wyvern]

can i use better planet generation on my current save or do i have to make a new one for it to work properly

[hearty wasp]

the former

[solar fern]

😕

[solid hawk]

Don't like it, talk to HG. We can't mod what we want, we mod what's allowed.

[sinful dagger]

are there any mods related to character customization?

aside from the generic hide cape shit

[hearty wasp]

elaborate

what exactly do you want

[fresh arch]

You will not find much more than this "generic shit" because the community doesn't really have the tools to create brand new models and animations for custom body parts

Easier to tweak or repurpose the existing bits

If you're looking for some "new" additions, that leaves pretty much only these options: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2003 and https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3231

[jaunty crane]

Hey guys, is there possibly a mod that can reduce No man Sky's graphic quality so much that it could run on a potato PC? Like, lets say I would struggle with 800x600 4:3 low graphics...

[marsh eagle]

Almost not necessary anymore because there is a reolution scaler. So you can keep the desktop resolution and the ui and hud will be fine and the game just scales down the world pixels so to speak. You can set it to like 10%. Even if you barely see anything anymore it will run on the most potato like pc

[jaunty crane]

Cool

[fresh arch]

There's also the option to use FSR upscalling in Performance mode

Although I wouldn't recommend it cause it makes the game really look like a potato

I'd go with Balanced at least

[hearty wasp]

FSR ain't gonna help when the specs are that shit

It'll take more processing power to upscale than to actually just render the thing

That's actually a thing

[marsh eagle]

It depends since FSR is handled on cpu. So with strong cpu but weak gpu its a option. Common scenario in pcs with intelhd without dedicated gpu.

[solid hawk]

Not really, for reasons FriendlyFire gave

[solid hawk]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3033

You'd have to run the lua script through AMUMSS to generate an updated .pak for the mod.

[vale iron]

You could also include gmultitool no resource gathering effects and maybe clean multiplayer if on an expedition.

[vale iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3204
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1906

[fresh arch]

New mod released: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3263

[arctic kestrel]

is it possible to complete all main story and side quests/missions with a save editor quickly or with a mod? i tried to find a mod but found nothing and couldn't figure out how it worked on the editor so if anyone has any ideas please let me know

[fresh arch]

Nothing from the mod side of things

As for save editing, you would need to do some raw JSON editing which can be tricky

[dusk saffron]

Saves have been shared recently at the Creative Hub with all missions done

You could ask the person that shared how easy it was

[vale iron]

Save editing missions is tricky. I don't recommend it unless you have a save breaking bug

[fresh arch]

Another mod released: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3264

[fresh arch]

New mod released: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3265

[hearty wasp]

'd be funny if there's a version with 50x the smoke

like rather than removing the emitters you just multiply particle count

PC destroyer simple edition

[fresh arch]

shushit

Dont give HG ideas

[velvet atlas]

Is it possible to save edit without downloading a save editor?

[solid hawk]

No

[terse gale]

There are several SE's you can get.
The NomNom SE can be obtained from Nexus Mods site and the other one I know of is Fungal's SE from GitHub (this is the one I use).

[velvet atlas]

Thanks for the extra info. I’m leery of downloading stuff in general, so the vetting is helpful.

[lilac depot]

What mods can i use without being offline on discovery services?

I want to play the current expo and like be online but i am not sure if i can use them along with being online

[hearty wasp]

yes

[lilac depot]

Best answer ive had ever

[hearty wasp]

have fun

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fresh arch]

3rd link for more detailed answer

[iron cosmos]

hey, is there a mod that stops my ship from automatically orienting while flying within a planets orbit?

[solid hawk]

No

[upbeat pulsar]

is there a music mod?

so i can be on my ship and listen to some bangers

[fresh arch]

Not really, there is bytebeat radio in Quick Menu - Utilities

You can save other players' BB tracks and listen to them on the go

[upbeat pulsar]

kk

[hearty wasp]

Try vlc

Hotkey to play/pause

[solid hawk]

My big question is why does he want to listen to sausages?

[dusk saffron]

LMAO, I was so tempted to search a GIF for 'bangers'

[stoic leaf]

is scale glitching still a thing, or it has been patched?

[hearty wasp]

try #nms-questions

if we want to scale shit here we can just enable them

[stoic leaf]

valid argument, was checking the channel that would bend the rules more

lol

[solid hawk]

There is no bending of rules. Can either do something or can't.

If you can, not against any rule.

[sinful hazel]

anyone know how upgrading warp drive capacity works with modding?

nvm i fixed it

hahaha

WOOO

[jagged marsh]

Would anyone here have the griffin companion eggs that have been circulating for a few years?

[hearty wasp]

petah?

[solid hawk]

Peter Griffin? That'd be a cool pet!

[deep cave]

alright ill come clean
I've pirated the game first to try how it was, it satisfied me so I bought the game
I used this trainer with the pirated version
what does the vanilla game community think about this stuff

things like translate all alien languages and quicksilver is what i wanna use