nms-modding

[dawn bane]

What do i do?

[random crown]

Any way to increase 1st person fov?

I know you can for at least 3rd person in the file, didn't feel like it adjusted 1st though

[steel crypt]

Yes. In the same file.

[steel crypt]

Attention!
Anyone who runs a potato, toaster, cheapie, budget, chintzy, cut-rate, dime-store, whole-sale, or cheapo PC...this might be for you.
(Not planning on official release)

PotatoLOD - adjusts LOD settings for spaceships, frigates, and freighters (exterior) for FPS gain.

I also put GrassFix here too because it's my other FPS mod.
GrassFix - adjusts LOD settings for grass... for FPS gain.

[toxic barn]

sorry for asking too much, but is there any .lua file available? i'm using the decompressinator, i'm afraid it won't work with the custom repacked .pak

[hearty wasp]

it will

[steel crypt]

I don't use LUA
As long as it's named to load after ... decompressinator then both will work right.

As a matter of fact, all your mods should be made to load after decompressinator .... although some might not need to. It wouldn't hurt to load all after though if you don't know which ones should.

[hearty wasp]

I'm p sure decompressinator just literally replaces vanilla paks

hence its replacement of bank sigs

you should worry about AMUMSS not being able to fetch the files from the new paks before pak mods not loading

(you shouldn't worry at all)

[steel crypt]

Oh it's replaces them... like not as mod files, but literally replaces the originals?

[hearty wasp]

that's what I think it does

it backs up the og paks iirc

[steel crypt]

If so then it shouldn't affect mods.

Okay I see now.
Thanks.

[steel crypt]

So it's basically Psarc tool.

[hearty wasp]

I suppose

like the no lag mod on steroids

[toxic barn]

Alright, thanks for the heads up 👍

[solid hawk]

There is already an Lua for the grassfix mod, BUT I have not yet checked if anything has changed in the new version. I'll be looking at PotatoLOD to write an Lua for it, probably tomorrow. I'm still updating the Luas for the rest of the DUDs mods, which were updating early this morning.

[toxic barn]

Thank you, babscoole!

[solid hawk]

They'll be in here, https://github.com/MetaIdea/nms-amumss-lua-mod-script-collection/tree/main/Babscoole/JasonDudes Mods . May or may not do an upload tonight, with what I have finished for 5.03, see how far I get before I have to pass out.

[random crown]

hmm, these are the only fov settings

[hearty wasp]

those should be the ones

you need to add 20 to your desired FOV value to get the FOV you want in game

[dawn bane]

I really need help because i cannot see the files that i need to replace

If someone is patient enough and free to hop into a call to guide me through this i would really appreciate it

Please help ;-;

[hearty wasp]

No one's gonna hop in voice because it makes all other capable people unable to help

[dawn bane]

Ah damn

[hearty wasp]

If you need help in making a mod you're free to join the modding discord

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[dawn bane]

No not that

I asked about the expeditions yesterday

[hearty wasp]

Then just write down your questions in detail

[dawn bane]

but im trying to find the files to replace and i cannot find them

they are just not in my game files

[hearty wasp]

You need to put in more detail than that

[dawn bane]

Okay so. I asked about how to mod and replay the expeditions for the rewards by myself. You said to go by this link and follow instructions there. https://github.com/leodium/leodium-ReLive-NoMansSky-Expeditions-Offline

i did

but i cannot find the files that i need to replace for it to work

i'm following all the steps but i don't see the files

[hearty wasp]

You should mention which files

And which directory you have been searching at

[dawn bane]

Step 02 : Download the "SEASON_DATA_CACHE.json" file from the cache directory of the Expedition you want to redo.
Step 03 : Replace the file in your [cache] directory with the one you've just uploaded
👉🏻 Steam PC : %APPDATA%\HelloGames\NMS\cache

i cannot find the cache

it's just not there

[hearty wasp]

Have you tried just making a new folder

And then putting the file in thete

[dawn bane]

no. i don't want to break anything. will that work?

[hearty wasp]

I dunno

[dawn bane]

:(

[hearty wasp]

But I know it doesn't break anything

And if you don't want to try I hope you're content with accepting you can't play the expeditions

If you're so scared about breaing suff you should make a backup of the NMS folder

So you have a copy of your saves unaffected

[dawn bane]

okay i'll try. where do i create the folder? and do i just call it "cache"? in the gamedata?

[hearty wasp]

In the path the github page told you to place the file

[fresh arch]

You are looking at NMS install directory

The files for expeds go into local save directory

[hearty wasp]

Are you sure you have been looking at appdata?

[fresh arch]

Totally different path

[dawn bane]

that's the only thing i have

[hearty wasp]

Lmao

[dawn bane]

:(

[hearty wasp]

You should try to follow the paths the tutorial tells you to

Copy %APPDATA%\HelloGames\NMS\cache

[fresh arch]

!faq-savefiles

[hardy aurora]

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<:atlasnmscord:1269532093076078658> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

Mac
/Users/<yourname>/Library/Application Support/HelloGames/NMS/st_<your steam ID>/

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[hearty wasp]

And then paste it onto your link field in your windows explorer

Hit enter

[fresh arch]

This is what you need, not the game install directory

[hearty wasp]

And it should bring you there

[dawn bane]

ok give me a second

[hearty wasp]

If you don't know what appdata is you can google it to see what it is as well

[dawn bane]

nothing. it says that it's not found. i even looked over it manually but nothing

maybe it's because i have it instaled in the D: and not C:

[hearty wasp]

Irrelevant

[dawn bane]

but i honestly don't know

[fresh arch]

Go into windows explorer, click on address bar, delete everything, type on %appdata%, hit Enter

[hearty wasp]

^

[fresh arch]

Then navigate down to HelloGames, then to NMS folder

[hearty wasp]

You absolutely have an appdata folder at least

[dawn bane]

YES! FOUND IT! THANK YOU PEOPLE!

GOD BLESS YALL!

LIVE LONG AND PROSPEROUS!

okay now another question before i do the editing

should i copy the original season JSON and save it to put it back after i'm done with everything?

[hearty wasp]

If you want to

[dawn bane]

ok ty

also to enter "offline" do i just diconnect from wifi? just making sure

[balmy wasp]

not modding specifically but i need the saves from my xbox into my pc

is it fine if i already bought the game on steam abd just need to transfer the saves,or do i need to shift tge whole game(?) ibhave no clue

[fallow meadow]

First of all, you will require Game Pass Ultimate to sync your save files to the Cloud to gain access to them on PC. After you have them on PC, you can use NomNom (Save Editor) to transfer to Steam.

!faq-savefiles

[hardy aurora]

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<:atlasnmscord:1269532093076078658> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

Mac
/Users/<yourname>/Library/Application Support/HelloGames/NMS/st_<your steam ID>/

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[balmy wasp]

so theres no such thing as directly accesing the files from xbox?

[fallow meadow]

Not from the console, no, it will require the Cloud

[balmy wasp]

alright what if i crack the xbox?

also,it has an ssd right?

[fallow meadow]

We cannot and do not support this

[balmy wasp]

i see

[fallow meadow]

So basically on your own for that matter

[balmy wasp]

thanks anyway

[lime mesa]

Does the gumsk gbase boundary mod need to be paired with the exosolar beyond mod to be usable? or is it standalone?

[vale iron]

It's standalone, but I probably need to update it. Hoping to get some updates out today

[solid hawk]

They have different feature sets, making changes in different game files.

The changes one makes the other cannot do and vice versa

[lime mesa]

Awesome

And where it says in the nexus descrip “scaling increased from 1/4, 3 -> 1/10, 5” does that mean scaling construction objects or is it referring to something else?

[vale iron]

Buildable objects sizing ranges are extended, both smaller and larger

Using beyond Base Building with it enables scaling on a bunch of items that normally don't allow it, FYI

[solid hawk]

Caveat, I always mention, be very aware that scaling too big or small will break snapping. Even vanilla scaling will do this. Nothing mods can do to fix it, part of the base code of the game. Scaling is dynamic, snaps are staticly placed. Do not and cannot move as the object is scaled, so the snap points wind up being far away or buried within an object as you scale smaller or larger, respectively.

Those who scale alot learn to free place well. 🙂

[vale iron]

Best solution I've come up for that kind of thing is either turning on free base power or modding the items to not require power

[lime mesa]

Awesome feature, gonna try it

[lime mesa]

Dam

[cold rover]

Is it possible to do the save edit thingy yall do on pc on an upgrade?

[vale iron]

Could you clarify what you mean?

[cold rover]

Can you edit the stats of an upgrade

Like how tou cna edit the stats of a ship

[vale iron]

You have to change the seed of the upgrade with a save editor

You can't change the stats directly

[cold rover]

Mkkk

[lime mesa]

Does libNMS support worlds update yet?

Tryna extract some models but NMSMV is broken

[hearty wasp]

The former is updated with the compiler, the latter is broken

[lime mesa]

shame, so how can i get the models?

[hearty wasp]

Wait a few weeks I guess

NMSDK is getting properly fixed so you should be able to use it by then

So is model viewer but not sure if it obj export will be fixed by then

[lime mesa]

alright tysm

[outer kettle]

Anyone have any cool bird pet eggs?

Flying pet

[solid hawk]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H Discord, #model-viewer channel. There's a beta version posted, which is working with NMS 5.x. Check the stickies in the channel for the link

[rigid eagle]

i want to use this mod to get previous expedition rewards but ive never modded this game before and wanna know if ill get banned or shadowbanned and if the things will be available to see for other players
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062?tab=description

[hearty wasp]

You don't get banned from anything

All rewards are vanilla stuff and vanilla stuff are no different than other vanilla stuff you may get from official means

[rigid eagle]

ok i see ty

[ebon cosmos]

This is modding chanel for No Man's Sky

Stay on topic and follow channel rules

[vague niche]

any mods that change the ship's HUD color? I can't seem to find any of Nexus that are properly up-to-date, but I may have missed some

[steel crypt]

PSA:
For anyone using DUD'S SKY - COLORS, please download v503-B.
(Fixed issue with storm timing.)

@round sinew

[round sinew]

ty jason :))

[late ice]

Thanks I hated getting storms every 2 minutes

[toxic barn]

@steel crypt hey, i'm really curious, since NMS's modding are mostly changing values, rather than adding something, how can DUD's SKY, for example, add various things?

[hearty wasp]

it's adding existing stuff that are present in other places of the game

[toxic barn]

so the various colors is already in the game?

[steel crypt]

No they are added.

It uses an existing system.
But it adds colors.

Ship headlights:
Uses existing lights system for models. Uses existing trigger systems. None of which are on ships normally.

The idea is there must be an existing system in game that can be used and manipulated for something else. Or an existing system can be expanded.

[toxic barn]

ah ok, i see. so in theory, how one can actually add a sky colors? do you need to add a color variable (like RGB value), or a file containing color?

[solid hawk]

AND, these adds are only seen by players with the mod. Not synced, so doesn't break MP

[solid hawk]

Just like DUD Skies or Exosolar Stratos does. Add a palette to the correct game file, in the correct format, not violating structure of the file.

Don't just add a color, you're adding a palette.

This is a palette for day sky

[toxic barn]

so is this palette is a bunch of RGB value, or an independent files?

ah alright, so it's like adding value

[solid hawk]

NMS RGB

Standard RGB /255

[solid hawk]

Some palettes files you can add gobs of new palettes. Others are fixed size arrays. Can't add, only replace existing.

[steel crypt]

True but with 64 color arrays, there will be some arranged for use of 1 color or 16 colors etc. In those cases you can add because there are a lot of repeated colors.

[solid hawk]

True enough, in some cases

[mellow urchin]

has anyone tried the increase drawdistance from nexus? does it still work today?

[hardy aurora]

@velvet vigil

No gifs in this channel please

[steel coral]

How do I mod again

[nocturne prairie]

hello i'm trying to finish the starbirth missions. is there a mod i can get to eliminate wait times?

[hearty wasp]

Search "timer" on Nexus Mods

[nocturne prairie]

thank you

[fresh arch]

Just make sure to pick mods that were updated to the latest version of the game

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

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<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[nocturne prairie]

thanks!

how can i tell if mods are installed properly?

[hearty wasp]

Mod works

Mod installed

If you see a mod warning screen when you start the game then mods are being loaded

[nocturne prairie]

oh i did not see that..

all i had to do was create a MODS folder in PCBANKS?

[vale iron]

Delete Disablemods.txt

[hearty wasp]

#nms-modding message

Read through it again if you have already

[nocturne prairie]

ah

thanks mates, still learning this game haha

[novel gyro]

Does a anyone know what the "Moddding Console" is??

I was exploring in the files when I found it

Also side note I suck at scaling glitches so is there a way I can change the max variable of scaling?

[solid hawk]

Yes. It's for HG employees only. Unless you are enployed by them will do nothing.

[novel gyro]

Ohhh ok

[solid hawk]

Use the mod called gBase Boundary. Allows to scale more (smaller and larger) than allowed in vanilla.

[novel gyro]

Awesome

I'll do that

[solid hawk]

Just be aware, scaling breaks snapping, so free placement will become a good friend to you

[novel gyro]

Currently I'm changing a .Lua file to help me get a damn S class pirate freighter lmao

[novel gyro]

Yeah I just want a large decorative structure for my moon base I got

[wet pier]

can I play multiplayer games while using mods?

[solid hawk]

Yes

[wet pier]

thank you

[solid hawk]

With NMS, mods are local, changing the game files on your system. So you and others may not see things the same way as each other, unless running the same mods.

[wet pier]

do I still get achievements with mods?

[solid hawk]

As far as I've been able to tell, Steam doesn't care either way and can still get achievements.

[gusty flower]

Hi, where do i have to put .lua files?

there too? X:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS\MODS

[fresh arch]

No, LUA scripts are used only to compile mods using a tool called AMUMSS

[gusty flower]

uh sad, gonna install from there. Doesn't it work w vortex?

[fresh arch]

The actual mods that can be used by game are PAK files

Hard to say since 1) AMUMSS is a different kind of tool

2. general recommendation is not to use any mod manager with NMS

[gusty flower]

Alright! thanks for the information gonna do that

[fresh arch]

Since they don't offer any proper functionality

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

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<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fresh arch]

1st and 2nd link should get you started

[gusty flower]

Manythanks

k should be good

[low moth]

I've got a ton of mods, they've never done this to me before. Any ideas? Every mod I have is a tested and working mod, but I stepped away from the game for 6-8 weeks, updated through Vortex, and this is what I get. Has anyone else seen this or something similar? Please let me know, as the game is now unplayable. Thanks in Advance!

[fresh arch]

Potential culprits are mods that change the UI Globals file

Check mod descriptions on Nexus

[solid hawk]

Yep, you've a mod which changes GCUIGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN, that hasn't been updated to current. One of many reasons its' recommended not to use mod managrs, like Vortex, for NMS.

[fresh arch]

I mean it's not the mod manager's fault, the same could be done if you grab an outdated mod manually

It's just a matter of using mods that are up to date with current game version

Relying on MMs is another can of worms but yeah, generally not recommended

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

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<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fresh arch]

Use the Nexus link to grab mods from recently updated section

[low moth]

Thanks, @fresh arch and @solid hawk . Putting them back in slowly to figure out the culprit. I'd also like to say THANKS for all of your mods!

[low moth]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1081?tab=posts

A follow-up, to be tucked away in the back of the brain.

[low moth]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2115

That one is also messing up the UI size.

[solid hawk]

Get AMUMSS. Can use with the lua scripts, most mods have, to self update mods to current and can combine mods that conflict with each other

[fresh arch]

And if a mod doesn't have a LUA script, it means a certain individual is slacking 😜

[solid hawk]

In this case either Gumsk or Lo2k, with the two mods specified.

[fresh arch]

I fired a canonball at the man and he didn't even see it

[tacit tide]

This is a very "friendly fire" comment 😄

[pulsar vector]

So how do i edit my save to give myself back all the expedition rewards i lost due to a tech issue with steam cloud? Rather not go through a lot of waiting for a chance to get the rewards from past expeditions.

[fresh arch]

Using mods would be prolly a more straightforward option

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1960

[pulsar vector]

Well i use consumerism to have assume to rewards i didnt have with quicksilver but i have nothing now

guess i can just work hard and get alot of quicksilver

[fresh arch]

Yeah I think those mods let you get the rewards for current save

If you want them account wide, then save editing will be required

See this post then: #nms-modding message

[tacit tide]

This can also be save edited...

Also, looks like service bot has all expedition items.

[fresh arch]

It has but it's currently under construction and available only to paid Patreon users

[pulsar vector]

didnt even know the NMS service app bot thing was a thing

i heard of save editiors just didnt know where to get

[tacit tide]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Third-Party_Tools

There are two, from Goat Fungus and nomnom. Both do pretty much the same thing.

[pulsar vector]

FriendlyFire already pointed me in teh direction via a past comment. Downloaded it minutes ago. but thanks.

Thank Atlas for modders who know how to code save editiors

[tacit tide]

Question: how much of a PITA would it be to create a mod that allows searching uploaded player bases shown in the Anomaly teleporter for key words? Or search/sort based on stats like star color, biome, or sentinel type?

[fresh arch]

In the words of wise Winder: can't

Mods can't add new functionality to the game

We can only change values on predefined parameters hosted in tables in static files that are loaded on startup

No way to add new parameters / logic / functions etc.

[tacit tide]

That's what I thought, but figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

[tacit tide]

This is a super helpful way of putting it. Thank you!

[fresh arch]

Or put in another way

"Modding NMS isn't about changing what you want to, it's about changing what we are allowed to"

[tacit tide]

"This ain't Skyrim"

[fresh arch]

Oh no, doesn't hold a candle to modding of Bethesda titles

[tacit tide]

I ran into a bug with my exocraft npc last month, and was about to go into the JSON to try to fix it. The update that dropped that day fixed it for me.

But the entire time I kept thinking, "If this was Skyrim I could have fixed this with a console command..."

[turbid mango]

what program is used for save editing?

I want to rename my voltaic staves but keep the greek letters

[tacit tide]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Third-Party_Tools

There are two, from Goat Fungus and nomnom. Both do pretty much the same thing.

[fresh arch]

You can also find links to save editors in pinned messages

[turbid mango]

would I also be able to take my current file off of permadeath or at least ease off the inventory restrictions?

[tacit tide]

You'd be able to make it any other type of save, yes. And you could play around with your inventories however you want.

[turbid mango]

epic

I'll save crazier mods for a different playthrough, I just want to rename my staves and turn off stack limit

[tacit tide]

Stack limit is governed by save type. So editing your save out of PD will make the stack limits the limits for Normal saves (or whatever you choose). If you want larger stacks, you'll need to grab a mod.

[turbid mango]

got it

[fallow meadow]

@turbid mango I recommend making a backup prior to any edits, just in case. Also be aware that altering game mode through save editing, requires paying attention to several locations in the save data. Especially changing between game modes that use a different GameMode value.

There are quite a few difficulty settings present in the save data as well. Stack sizes is one of them actually, although not in terms of a value, but defined with 'High, Normal, Low'. The image included shows the defaults.

[solid hawk]

Should be able to adjust many of the settings via the in-game Difficulty Settings menu

For those, no need to risk save editing or modding

[glad pumice]

Is there a star wars mod?

[turbid mango]

not on permadeath preset

[solid hawk]

If you make one there is, else no Star Wars overhaul.

[solid hawk]

Shame. Only played PermaDeath a couple of times and that was before Difficulty Settings were added.

Makes sense though, keeping the difficulty higher for those wanting to play risky.

[winter wagon]

@chearfreak hello sir

Does anyone here know, why my loading screen looping all the way after I use decompressinator mod from Nexus Mod

[winter wagon]

Does anyone here know? how to fix looping loading screen? been waiting for 30 minutes, and still looping planetary looping

[hearty wasp]

1. Keep waiting until it loads
2. Decompress again
3. Not using it

May also wanna try verifying fame integrity on steam

[fresh arch]

Could also be caused by trying to use an outdated mod

If you play with actual PAK file mods, make sure those have been updated to latest game version

[winter wagon]

it still so long to waiting, in normal i just waiting for only 10-20seconds, but lately I need 30minutes, and looping all the way so long....

[hearty wasp]

Cool story

Try the other stuff

[winter wagon]

any suggestion to end this endless looping, LoL

[winter wagon]

just make sure the MOD still updated

God, I miss my frigate and its crew in behalf

[amber hearth]

Hey, quick question about load order. Does the game load mods in ascending order from the mods folder? Like is it from the top to the bottom or is it the other way around?

[fresh arch]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Mods

See section about load order

[amber hearth]

Ok, so descending order

[solid hawk]

Start pulling out mod .paks one by one until issue resolves, so you can narrow down the culprit.

[solid hawk]

Only time I've had this happen to me was almost three years ago. HG added a bunch of new game files necessary for a certain type of mod to work correctly. We mod makers saw the new files and added applicable entries to the new game files for our mods to work. Then for two months our mods then caused the game to take 30-45 minutes to load. Lots of troubleshooting, trying different things, tearing out of hair. What was wrong? We missed adding needed entries to one new game file. That new entries were found in the other new files, but not this one, caused the game to do a long slow double check, one by one, for thousands of entries.

So, may very well be something new is missing in one of the mods you use, even if already updated for 5.03, and the author hasn't realized it yet. HG doesn't let us know what's changed or how game files interlink with each other. That's for mod authors to figure out, as a community or on their own, so sometimes HG throw us a non-obvious curveball.

[cobalt condor]

I've had that happen from a mod using an outdated GalaxyGlobals file

The game didn't crash, it just got stuck loading forever after opening a save

funny thing is it still somehow rendered the galaxy on the loading screen lol

[manic dragon]

how do i edit my save file for the old expedition stuff

[final hazel]

https://github.com/goatfungus/nmssaveeditor

alternatively, there are mods to make them earnable in-game
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2996

[manic dragon]

what is this and how do i use it?

[final hazel]

It's the github of one of the best NMS save editors, follow the installation and set it up and you can just tick each expedition reward in the "Account" section one by one, making it as if you previously completed them and can claim their rewards on all saves

[manic dragon]

ah alright

does modding the game turn off multi player?

[final hazel]

No, though the offline expedition one may require turning multiplayer off or something

[manic dragon]

so i can still play with people while my game is modded?

[final hazel]

Mods normally don't change multiplayer and can never disable achievements

[final hazel]

I've been doing it for years with small and large ones alike, no mod is too big to break multiplayer, y'all will just see different things if it comes to that

[manic dragon]

so i can still incounter people that arent modded while modded?

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[final hazel]

Yes, and vice versa

[fresh arch]

3rd link for details

Methods how to get expedition rewards are pinned in the channel

[manic dragon]

is the old expedition labeled expd

[final hazel]

All expedition rewards start their IDs with EXPD, if you're talking about the save editor

[manic dragon]

Thank you

[final hazel]

On the account section, just hunt for what you desire to mark as unlocked and it'll be at the Quicksilver Synthesis Companion

[manic dragon]

Alright thank you

[manic dragon]

how do i tell if it worked?

[final hazel]

You open the game and talk to the Quicksilver Synthesis Companion, then ask about Expedition Rewards

Also remember to save your changes in the Save Editor

[wet pier]

one of my mods doesn't seem to work anymore. Was there a recent update?

[final hazel]

The latest update was on July 30th

[manic dragon]

is there a mod that increases the amount of ships i can have

[wet pier]

I'm not sure why it's not working then

[final hazel]

You might like this one, it lets you store starships inside it and also transfer them to other saves (it's an external program but a fun one) https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2953
(this isn't meant to be open at the same time as NMS)

[manic dragon]

easy to use?

[final hazel]

Quite! It has a UI that emulates how the game's look

[wet pier]

found the problem. It was another mod conflicting

[final hazel]

Always something to look for lol, also AMUMSS mod combining helps

[manic dragon]

can i store multi tools in it too?

[final hazel]

I think so

The names of each feature aren't that intuitive and are usually silly puns and made up corporation names

[manic dragon]

all i need to do is download?

[final hazel]

I believe so, it's not technically a mod but a program that interacts with your saves

[solid hawk]

It's free, just grab DNA, try and see what's in there. 🙂

[manic dragon]

how do i make it full screen

[final hazel]

I don't think that's an option sadly

[manic dragon]

depress

if i press launch in dna can the game and dna be opened at same time

[final hazel]

It has instructions on how to use it at the same time as the game

[manic dragon]

so i should have the game closed while i use it more easy

[final hazel]

Yes, though the instructions here would act the same way. There's no danger besides not having the changes reflect properly

[manic dragon]

looks like a dipin my toes in to mods

[final hazel]

I use too many lol, or not enough

[manic dragon]

i know mods are like nipnip

addictive

[final hazel]

I just like the game being a better game, I'm crazy about tiny fixes and stuff mostly

[manic dragon]

what kind of mods are out there

[final hazel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/search/?BH=3 you can look!

[manic dragon]

never thought there would be so many

[final hazel]

Mostly each fixing tiny little issues with the game, also almost all mods can be combined using AMUMSS to be compatible with eachother and updated for the latest versions

[manic dragon]

amusmss?

[final hazel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/957

[manic dragon]

a mod manger

[final hazel]

it's a little complicated, but it's why every mod comes with a .lua file along with the pak

kind of, but without a UI

[manic dragon]

ah

[final hazel]

drag mod luas into modscript and press the buildmod.bat, those are the two important things you do with it

[manic dragon]

intresting

[final hazel]

Whenever a new update drops, it's easy to just use it and make them work with the new version. This usually just goes for hotfixes

Bigger updates may take time for them to rewire AMUMSS to how the new update works, so a few days of no mods after any big ones is expected

[manic dragon]

ya thats pretty normal

in the save editor is there a way to unlock more pet slots

[final hazel]

I don't think you can get more than the usual 18

plus eggs count as extras, I think there's a limit to those too

[manic dragon]

i mean how to unlock the ones you can have

[final hazel]

Just give yourself the nanites to do it if it's not obvious

[manic dragon]

wdym if its not obvious

[final hazel]

Like if there's not a dedicated "unlock pet slot" feature

[manic dragon]

ah ok

[final hazel]

it gets up to 20,000 per slot so give yourself like 200,000 and then set it back to normal after

I wish they costed less lol but dumb big grinds like that are my thing

The people who love having pets are not the same kinds of people to be running a mold farm

[manic dragon]

same its why i dont have a lot of pets

dumb question how do i get the nanties to save

[final hazel]

You should just have to type in an amount of nanites in the exosuit menu, then click save

Or Ctrl + S

[manic dragon]

ive saved it like 10 times and when i load the game they arent there

[final hazel]

Huh weird, try loading the other save when you get into the game? Or maybe editing that other counterpart to the save in the editor

[manic dragon]

i dont got another save xD

[final hazel]

It shouldn't have problems like that, make sure to press enter

[final hazel]

All saves have two, restore point and auto

[manic dragon]

ah ok

[final hazel]

If you click the save slots thing in the save menu of the editor you can pick!

Or the thing below save slots

I forgor

[manic dragon]

alright

[final hazel]

If all else fails just give yourself 10 stacks of tainted metal or something

[manic dragon]

i was using the wrong save

[final hazel]

Oof, both the game and the editor try to pick the most recently written save first so weird

[wet pier]

what's that?

[final hazel]

A tool used to combine and update mods for perfect compatibility

[wet pier]

that sounds good, where do I find it?

[final hazel]

It's on nexusmods, as it's own program. I linked it up there somewhere, hid the embeds for less clutter

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/957

[glass lake]

I think I have finally finished my exploration modpack, infinite variety, planets can have multiplre regions/biomes, and completely dynamic terrain with like 3 different terrain mods that I tweaked and combined

[manic dragon]

ur making me want mods killin me

[glass lake]

Do you have a pc?

[steel crypt]

Is this for personal use?
Did you get permission to use those terrain mods?

[glass lake]

yeah its a mod list that I am going to hook to nexus with my own personal mods

[manic dragon]

yes

[glass lake]

would you like to try the pack? im looking for people to test it atm

[manic dragon]

is it possible to try it on a diffrent save then my main one? if so ill test it

[glass lake]

yeah just make a new save then delete when you want to go back on old one

[manic dragon]

ill gladly test ur pack whats in it?

[manic dragon]

make a new save then delete the new save?

[lime mesa]

ill test it out too looks sick

[solid hawk]

This statement is incorrect. AMUMSS does NOT need to be rewired or fixed for NMS updates. MBINCompiler\libMBIN, which are used by AMUMSS and every other tool dealing with game files, does. 🙂

[solid hawk]

Just so clear, which Jason alluded to, if there are mods made by other people you'll need permission, else do it as a collection. There's a reason why you see very few modpacks on Nexus. PTSd is one of the few, the author of which gets permission from every author whose mod\script he uses, in writing, the correct way. Those who post mod packs without the required permissions tend to get banned by Nexus staff, when reported. Thee are no negotiations, no warnings, no slaps on the wrist. The rules are clear and if violated, they ban. Protect yourself from running afoul of the Nexus mod posting rules. If all of it is yours and nobody can show proof that you took from another established mod, then you're ok.

[wet pier]

is there a mod that refreshes fleet expeditions more often and makes them have less ludicrous timers?

[viral oak]

think that's hardcoded to be tied to a daily reset

and the UI is basically hardcoded to only have a certain amount of room, no scroll

[vale iron]

Correct.

[craggy crystal]

Alright I need to edit save files on Minotaur

[final hazel]

You should just need the goatfungus save editor, which is rlly easy to use and impossible to mess up with https://github.com/goatfungus/nmssaveeditor

You should just have to right-click some minotaur tech slots and add the four Liquidator pieces. You can then package them later if you wish

[craggy crystal]

now i need there ids

for the parts

nvm

thanks grouch

[jagged blade]

Nice when do you plan on releasing?

[fresh arch]

@dark ridge see this post: #nms-modding message

[slim minnow]

Hi guys, I made a bit of a mistake. While doing the Living Ship questline, I believed to be stuck at some point and had to reset the mission to -1 in the savegame json. Since then, I always have the Child of Helios pop up when pulse driving, harassing me with Living Water like some crackhead lunatic.
Finishing the questline or setting all the living ship missions to -1 didn't fix it, neither did installing a mod and reducing the spawn chances to 0.
Not sure if I'm allowed to ping directly here, apologies if I'm not. I've been told @round sinew or @fallow meadow could help me out with their expertise, I'm at my wits end

[slim minnow]

In my most recent attempt to restart the whole mission and hopefully settle down the jellyfish once I make use of the living water, I have deleted pretty much everything in relation to the mission and all its components from the savegame json but without success.

[wet pier]

is there a mod to refresh frigate mission timers without editing mission rewards

[viral oak]

no

[ebon cosmos]

This is modding chanel for NMS

Idk what you're trying to show here, but it isn't chanel for that.

Stay on topic

Read channel description if you don't know what the chanel is for

[lime mesa]

can anyone make a mod that reads dialog?

ai voice mod or something

tired of reading thousands of dialogs

[steel crypt]

Can’t.

[stiff drum]

is this the place to ask about a trading bot to get a specific ship ?

[fresh arch]

If you mean the service bot, then the best place would be

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[fresh arch]

But keep in mind currently the bot is available only to paid users (Patreon supporters)

[upbeat cave]

Any mods that speed up things like landing animations and speaking to npcs?

[final hazel]

Both!

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3079
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1677

[coral dove]

is there a way with a save editor or something like that to remove my current freighter and re-trigger the rng-free battle ones?

[fresh arch]

Do you really need a save editor for that though?

Can't you use the difficulty settings to enable free purchases, farm the freighter and accept it for free?

[coral dove]

I already accepted it because I didn't know you could get better ones

it's a very bad C class

[final hazel]

You can still get more, freighter battles keep happening

Also class doesn't really do a lot on freighters

[coral dove]

but they're not free right?

it has like 6 inventory slots

[final hazel]

True, but you can change the difficulty setting for it to be free

That wouldn't affect anything besides getting the survival and permadeath achievements i think

[coral dove]

ohh I didn't know that, so basically after beating the pirates I can change the difficulty to easy then go talk to the guy in the freighter?

[final hazel]

The difficulty menu is more complex than that, you can just change "purchases" to free

[coral dove]

alright

[hearty wasp]

the first one is not a recurring quest iirc

[final hazel]

Alternatively if you don't wanna change your difficulty settings i could offer like 200m which would pay for any freighter

(Difficulty settings can be changed at any time and don't have any negative effects from changing them, besides surv/permadeath achievements i believe)

[coral dove]

nah it's fine, I'll just go around and find a decent one, I have no idea how to identify the "special" ones, but I guess I'll figure it out.

It was bothering me quite a lot because I keep having all my inventories full and the freighter's is useless because it's too small

[final hazel]

You can build storage container rooms inside your freighter if raw item storage is the issue

[final hazel]

"special" as in the capital models? those are the ones that have more starting inventory space and also the ones that only appear in warp-in freighter battles (after your first or second one though)

[fresh arch]

There are no special freighters, are freighters are functionally identical

See !faq-freighters in #bot-spam for more info, since this is getting off-topic now

[fallow meadow]

Give me a ping in here when you are around again. I can try help you out.

[slim minnow]

Awesome, much appreciated! I'm free in 10ish minutes

[fallow meadow]

Alright, sounds good, ping me again and we'll have a look

[opaque basalt]

anyone who knows how to make blue sky mods work?

[fresh arch]

You don't

[winter wagon]

Hello

[fresh arch]

All mods released before Worlds part 1 update are not compatible with the game and need to be updated

[opaque basalt]

so there is no way to get blue skies anymore?

[winter wagon]

I just put MODS into my game folder, but got stuck on loading screen

[fresh arch]

If it comes with LUA / C# script, you can use tools like AMUMSS or NMS Mod Builder respectively to compile up-to-date versions yourself

[winter wagon]

is there anyone can help me?

[fresh arch]

Otherwise you'd need to extract PAK file yourself, decompile MBIN files, see what changes have been made

And recreate them on current game files, then compile and pack again into a working mod

[opaque basalt]

and how do i do that

alot of work

[fresh arch]

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:The_Modding_Basics

Follow this and godspeed

[winter wagon]

so basically, this new update block any of mod?

[fresh arch]

Yes

[winter wagon]

I see..

[fresh arch]

All mods released before Worlds part 1 update are not compatible with the game and need to be updated

Trying to load an outdated mod might result in infinite loading screen

[opaque basalt]

i will keep looking for the perfect planet i guess

[winter wagon]

yeah, endless looping

[opaque basalt]

just want a green moon with green flora and a blue sk

[winter wagon]

guess you need to explore then

Anyway, is there any mod I can use?

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

guntie wake up

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

Look through recently updated or new releases categories

Otherwise use AMUMSS / NMS Mod Builder apps to recompile older mods using their LUA / C# scripts respectively

[fallow meadow]

@slim minnow Let's move to #964865106334875698

[slim minnow]

Sure

[coral dove]

Is there a way other than unpacking the games assets to remove the "lag" when switching inventories?

a keybind would be immensly useful too

[final hazel]

The NMS decompressinator might help with that, though for added filesize

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3126

[coral dove]

yep that's what I thought, guess I'll just do that

[final hazel]

I do it and it's nice, updates will break it of course but the process can be repeated without needing to update the program

[hearty wasp]

upgrade your CPU

and possibly RAM

and possibly motherboard

[coral dove]

5700g, octa core 4.6 all core boost
rtx 4070 12gb vram
32 gb 4000 mhz ram

I mean, sure it's not top of the line but if this is not enough holy bananas

[final hazel]

Mine is only slightly better and I've never rlly experienced menu lag

[coral dove]

it's not menu lag

it's stuttering when switching fast

I tend to do stuff before animations complete

let me try to get an obs clip

[viral oak]

bud, I think that may be some funky engineside shit we have no control over. my comp is quite strong, but recently I had it get stuck in the inventory menu from switching between tabs too fast. entire game locked up

it was also switching tabs backwards >.>

[coral dove]

I thought as much but it's pretty ridiculous
It looks like slow loading assets into memory
But they should be cached, one would assume at least

[viral oak]

NMS is just...NMS sometimes

[hearty wasp]

If you're having any load lag it's because of those components

Load lag is caused by decompression from paks

Your CPU/RAM is pretty much always the bottleneck in those scenarios because of that

So if unpacking is not to be used you can only upgrade your hardware to compensate

That or getting a job at HG and optimising the game

[coral dove]

cpu bottleneck sounds the most likely, I'm trying to unpack now and see how it goes

[coral dove]

does the engine seriously not keep the unarchived versions for x time at least or have some sort of cache?? This seems like a really easy optimization

[hearty wasp]

We dunno for sure if but observations are to be believed, no

There're a lotta models loaded at one single moment I imagine HG don't think it's worthwhile to occupy 10s of GBs of RAM

[coral dove]

While I'm here I might as well ask, how much engine API/game resources access is there for nms? Is it anything like the creation engine where everything(ish) can be changed or are most things internal?

to be clearer, can new behaviour be injected into the engine or maybe scripting? What about in-game items/resources/entities?

[hearty wasp]

We overwhelmingly edit mbin files for our mods and those are largely limited to 1. Models 2. Materials (minus actual shaders) 3. Parameters that HG don't hardcode which are various but not necessarily deep

Conventional scripting is not really on the table

[coral dove]

no creation kit planned right?

[hearty wasp]

You can make quests which are the most custom logic-involved stuff but thag's about it

[hearty wasp]

Not afaik

But I don't work at HG

[coral dove]

still does this even unpacked, but the loading times are just crazy fast now

[final hazel]

Also makes the atmosphere -> space transition no longer hang

Which makes the mod that specifically did that obsolete since this does that but for the whole game

[coral dove]

yeah this is a big one

[dawn veldt]

hi! Does anyone know how %ITERATION% works? How does it get a value?

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Recovered_Item_(DATA)

[dawn veldt]

I did not extract/mine recently, so I don't have the files ready to be read.

[fallow meadow]

Looks like a variable used in the localisation files. It will get a specific assigned format (font/colour) for the type of variable, and gets a value (likely string) assigned through I'd assume external process (exe). It will end up with a seeded Traveller name by the looks of it.

[round sinew]

Are we going to find Sean just chilling in an Atlas station

this reminded me

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2054

😂

[dawn veldt]

thanks. I'll look it up right now myself

[fallow meadow]

I believe %ITERATION% in localisation only has a single occurence though (ITEMGEN_DATA_DESC)

A fragment of discovery data from planet %PLANET%, concerning local <STELLAR>%TYPE%<>. It is marked as having been collected by Traveller Iteration %ITERATION%. %DETAILS%

There is this as well, although I have not looked into it much if indeed related: https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/blob/0598df0f28863e987933c51110de8811a62987c7/libMBIN/Source/NMS/GameComponents/GcUniqueIdData.cs#L9

[dawn veldt]

What does the file you linked mean though?

yes, it seems to be used once.

I'm noob at this

I tried search for "iteration" with my trusty visual studio code and mbin, but nope

If you look at https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Recovered_Item_(DATA)#Gallery, the pictures show that "%iteration%" becomes "a local Korvax explorer".

That's quite complex...

[dawn veldt]

I found such "Recovered Item" (data type...) and I don't think it said "Korvax explorer"...

[solid hawk]

In most cases, lag is caused by loading\reloading large models (and ancillary files), which are stored compressed. Hence what decompressinator does, re-paks as uncompressed. No engine access, no api, no means of access planned, at least not until HG is completely done with the engine. Since their next game, which uses the same engine, isn't out yet, will be years.

[fresh arch]

NMS uses a lot of these "variables" which are substituted at runtime

If you see tooltip like "land on planet ...", "talk to NPC ...", "collect item ....", those all use various variables that get replaced with actual names or whole descriptions

There is no documentation for game's inner mechanics though, just trial and error and despair

[dawn veldt]

oh... thanks.

I guess I'll do some tests then. ;)

[junior hatch]

does mod incompatibilities message mean game update incompat or inter mod issues?

or... both?

[fresh arch]

Prolly the latter

You wouldn't be able to load into the game with outdated mods at alll

[junior hatch]

thb i was surprised i got to the menu screen to start with

trying to load a save (not my main for testing purposes) crashed the game instantly

i was thinking inter mod rather than game updates, so thanks for that

[fresh arch]

I mean

If you can't actually load into the save

Then it's a mismatch between game version and mod version

[junior hatch]

whats the update date i should keep in mind btw?

*on nexus

[fresh arch]

All mods released before Worlds part 1 update are incompatible

So pick from recently updated or new releases on Nexus

[junior hatch]

i was pretty careful - but sure theres one or two that got missed

just didnt know the date cutoff

[fresh arch]

Or if the mod has lua or c# scripts available, use dedicated tools AMUMSS or NMS mod builder to recompile it for current game version

[junior hatch]

would that include colour swap mods for ships and weapons?

i did the lua thing

[fresh arch]

Any mod that touches on any MBIN files

Though even pure texture DDS mods need to be updated

Due to changes to compression or something like that

[junior hatch]

july 17 worlds 1 got released google says - so updates after then then?

[fresh arch]

Later patches definitely affected some files and mods might need to be updated as well

[junior hatch]

sop some mods need 5.0.3 rather than 5.0.0

[fresh arch]

But Worlds introduced a change to header of all MBIN files, making all older files from mods incompatible

So that is the definitive cutoff

[junior hatch]

2024-07-29 - 5.0.3

right, hard enough for the modders to keep up with major versions when minor versions affect their work too

[fresh arch]

If a game update replaced files ABC but mod replaces files GHI then there's no need to update the mod

[junior hatch]

makes sense but as a mod consumer i need to figure out how to identify which mods are compatible - sure, the consistent warnings about 5.0.0+ are great, but if a mod was updated for 5.0.0 and 5.0.3 requires it to be updated again that hard to keep track of for my brain - especially when there is like 10 days between mods becoming incompatible again

time to re-go over all my mods and their update dates (still waiting on others like better nms, but thats waiting on other mods to be updated - but was hoping to do a minor modded game with a few qol stuff but its not so simple it seems)

[solid hawk]

All would have needed to be updated since 17 July 2024. Within that group, some would have needed to be updated further for the 5.01.1 and 5.03 hotfix updates.

[junior hatch]

true - fairly sure they are all post 2024-07-17/5.0.0

[solid hawk]

It's fully dependent on what game files HG makes changes to, each update.

[junior hatch]

(other than the ones still waiting on updates of course)

[fresh arch]

This is not something mod user should be checking in my opinion

It should be mod authors duty to keep their mods updated if they decide to publish them

[junior hatch]

is there an easy way to find that out

obvisously comparing the gamepatch notes to the mod info - but the patchnotes are hard enough for me to find - the rickroll didnt help my experimental update i did bricking my main save a while back

apparently we have to look up a fan made thread on steam for the patchnotes

or so i was told

[solid hawk]

As a player, you do NOT want to run Experimental game builds if you also plan on using mods

[fresh arch]

You won't be able to tell which mods are compatible from patch notes alone

[junior hatch]

to explain my expedition was bugged out and i thought the experimental patch could fix it and patchnotes were nowhere to be fopund

[fresh arch]

There can be dozen of files controlling or contributing to a single game aspect

There are stealth fixes / changes HG does not include in patch notes

[solid hawk]

Almost nobody updates mods for Experimental, because it's a tiny portion of the player community running it. Just asking for the number of mod incompatibility crashes to skyrocket

[junior hatch]

so how would you suggest users find the which mods need updating info

[solid hawk]

Yeah, sometimes they post release notes, others not. When they decide to, can be found at https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/4511003079822341151/

[fresh arch]

Honestly my advice is to use AMUMSS to recompile all mods you want to use every time there is an update

[solid hawk]

I tell users use this page https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/newrecently

[fresh arch]

Of course for mods that can be updated that way

[solid hawk]

Anything before date X, don't bother with

[junior hatch]

i went over my mod download history sorted by update date most recent

not sure where i went wrong though

[fresh arch]

Game starts updating, I yeet out all of files in MODS folder, I run a personal collection of Lua scripts through AMUMSS, I wait till it's finished

Not optimal but works for me

[junior hatch]

trying to keep a master list of all mods i want to use with the intent of turning them into pak files but probably doing something wrong

[solid hawk]

This is where mod managers, like Vortex seriously muck the game up. Don't know, nor care, about game file compatibility, so will happily install whatever. One of several reasons recommended not to use mod managers with NMS

[junior hatch]

so you keep luas to "update yourself" - but what about paks that dont decompile into luas?

[solid hawk]

Same as we all do, except I don't yeet, at first. In most cases will overwrite, if not, due to a name change, I go through after to remove old ones.

[solid hawk]

no .paks decompile into Luas

[junior hatch]

i have a coulpe that cannot

[solid hawk]

IF a .pak was made from an .Lua there will be a copy of the script in the .pak, unless the author has disabled that feature

[junior hatch]

the info said no lua included

[solid hawk]

Names of the mod please

[junior hatch]

or wast compiled something or other

let me do one to make sure

[solid hawk]

Since just a couple, if you give the mod names or even better, links to the NexusMods mod pages, can see if there's a non-obvious Lua script for them laying about

[junior hatch]

cant get a lua from custom mods galore (though been a which not sure what it is)

ill find another

[solid hawk]

Here https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2419?tab=files

[junior hatch]

an lua - must of been before i knew about luas and merging mods

that helps that one

[solid hawk]

Often times, if the mod author doesn't provide an Lua in the .pak or as a separate download on the FILES tab, can find on the POSTS tab, if a 3rd party has written one for the mod.

[junior hatch]

is it correct that just running the lua through amumss is enough to update - because i feel i need to use another folder in amumss tools or such?

(oh that is helpful)

[solid hawk]

Yes. This might help: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626

[junior hatch]

yes i forgot about that - its on my pc somewhere

[solid hawk]

If you find another you can't find an .lua for, just post here. I'll be back later and can check. 🙂

[junior hatch]

there it is

[junior hatch]

cool will do thanks

looks like modscript_manager updates mods

gMech Hardframe Reskin Light
(gMech Hardframe Reskin Body could be split into a lua though)

gMultitool Boltcaster

ah - i had multitool mining beam blue and red in my master mod list - time to check all the colours

most of the gcolour swaps for multitool and ship that dont have an lau already seem to be unable to split into a lua

i do now have a question - i previously split (is this decomplied?) better nms mod into everything inside it - can i use the update feature to keep using this when the game updates?

in fact i have most of all my mods pre-5.0.0 split into luas saved into a folder

[junior hatch]

this new (for me) modscript manager is great - i can set my gcolour swaps for different sets - mostly either blue/green or black/red into separate folders and select one or the other - love it!

[junior hatch]

wow - so not all mods are working - but the save loaded

the 2 i noticed instantly were gship starrunner & utopiaspeeder colour swaps

[junior hatch]

so... i ran the luas and paks inside 6 or so ModlIst Folders (excluding one folder)

this created several (35 or so) errors, but the paks worked and i was able to load my save

• question: does doing this update the mods themselves?

then it did not create a combined pak, and then the errors in the form of conficts showed the paks needed to be combined to resolve

• so i took the paks from the mods folder and ran them through amumss again and am waiting for it to complete

the big question here is if this procedure is what i should be doing after each game update?

ah - theres an autocombine tick box i missed

[fresh arch]

When you process LUA script with AMUMSS, you are not updating mods

You are compiling them based on currently available game files on your systems

Amumss takes game files, modified them according to the instructions set in lua scripts, pack those modified files and other assets (if present) into functional PAK mod files

It will not magically update an old PAK to be compatible with current game version

Errors likely come from trying to use outdated PAKs for merging

Or from changes HG made to specific files that caused existing scripts to fail processing

[junior hatch]

my bad - the how to use pdf called doing this updating mods

[fresh arch]

Best course of action would be visiting the modding discord and posting the lua.log and report.log files after failed compile in the dedicated amumss channel there

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[fresh arch]

I mean it's essentially updating mods in sense of creating new versions based on new vanilla files

[junior hatch]

oooh errors reduced to 24 this time round (i redid things with the auto combine option enabled)

[fresh arch]

Not taking old files and updating them, that's the distinction I wanted to make

[junior hatch]

"limited soft update"

[fresh arch]

Also sounds like you're trying to merge a large amount of mods into one big PAK

If it's taking you so long

[junior hatch]

how many are there i wonder?

[fresh arch]

That is not recommended because the moment a new patch drops breaking up one mod in the big combine, you will need to redo the whole combine again

[junior hatch]

lol i was recommended to do it this way, ages ago - so just combine whats necessary then?

[fresh arch]

There is no limit to amount of Pak files you can have in MODS folder so it's better to merge only the mods that are conflicting with each other

[junior hatch]

that will take some time

[fresh arch]

I was fine running over 100 individual PAK files for a long time

And combined only those mods that were conflicting

[winter wagon]

Somebody help me please

Why my tainted metal doesnt add more? Its stuck on 1000x

I have 20K in my exosuit

[junior hatch]

first Aldaraan, now you want help... some fiction characters are mad

[fresh arch]

And that is related to modding how?

[winter wagon]

Just asking

[junior hatch]

#nms-questions might be of more... help

woo level up

[viscid pike]

question? if people mod in here certain things (modded ships , modded upgrades etc…) could you give them to a console player such as me?

[final hazel]

Depends on what you mean, if you mean can someone give you a save-edited ship then yes but I believe things like tech and SC layouts don't survive the swapping-through-NPCs transfer

Modded upgrades is in a similar boat where it also requires glitches to give other people even regular pre-packaged tech upgrades, the closest thing to a "modded" upgrade is just a perfect X-Class one

[viscid pike]

yes a saved edited ship , only because I would like a modded ship but i’m on console so I didn’t know if that would work

[final hazel]

What kind of a modded ship? Like one of those exotic ships that are just featureless balls or something?

[viscid pike]

yeahhh

or

a red and black color exotic tier ship , just saves time and it would be really cool

I don’t mod usually so I wouldn’t know how it works and what you can and can’t do

[final hazel]

Normally black isn't possible on exotic ships so I'm not sure if that's possible but I wouldn't be surprised with save editing in mind. If it's possible then it's definitely tradable to other players, as long as it doesn't require a mod to show which isn't common

[viscid pike]

do you mod? and if you can is that something you could try make possible?

[final hazel]

I'm not well versed in modding or making ships directly since seeds are confusing, there's definitely people smarter than me who could cook such things up

As long as it's possible that is

[viscid pike]

if it is hypothetically speaking could maybe you pull some contacts who could try help me out or guide me to where I could find them? that would be a great help even this info is really helpful

[viscid pike]

or if anyone in this chat could help me do that , that would be great!

[solid hawk]

What FriendlyFire just described IS the standard definition of updating mods. Making the mod changes to current game files.

[solid hawk]

Best practice

If you combine all into one, may as well forget anyone helping you troubleshoot issues, if a lot of mods being combined, if an NMS update breaks one mod in the .pak, all will be broken.

[viscid pike]

@solid hawk can you help do this?

[solid skiff]

can anyone help me with save files

i want to transfer a modded steam save to xbox game pass

is it impossible

[final hazel]

You can just use the nomnom save editor

[solid skiff]

thats the problem

i have absolutely no idea how

transfer save made me clueless and youtube has outdated tuorials

pls help 😔

[final hazel]

It's easier than ever, just click edit and save transfer and pick the saves, though sometimes you gotta back out and go back into the menu for it to automatically grab IDs or grab them yourself

You need a save file to overwrite still on the destination platform

[solid skiff]

i figured out how to transfer xbox to steam but not steam to xbox

it says inaccessable

or incompatible

[final hazel]

It worked for me

Oh!

Is XBGP on 5.03?

[solid skiff]

let me check

[final hazel]

Someone else said it isn't or that they couldn't figure out how to update it, it's rlly weird

[solid skiff]

its the worlds update version

[final hazel]

All platforms have that

[solid skiff]

yea

[final hazel]

But steam is on 5.03

Build 126771 (I think that's what the bottom left means in mode select)

[solid skiff]

let me enter game and check one minute

mines 126771

what you said

[final hazel]

Huh... maybe that's not what that means

[solid skiff]

youre right its the build version

[final hazel]

I literally did a transfer from steam to GP on this very version

[final hazel]

that's not exact version

that's the last major update

[solid skiff]

take me through step by step

source should be GP right?

[final hazel]

For me, I just had to go into save transfer and select my steam account on the left and GP on the right, and select the correct save on the left and the dummy save on the right

I'm installing the game pass version right now to test this

[solid skiff]

ok listen

what are the chances this doesnt work if i dont have the steam version

[final hazel]

wdym?? you need both versions of the game installed

[hardy aurora]

@solid skiff

No gifs in this channel please

[final hazel]

the save editor probably supports gog too but idk

[solid skiff]

im killing myself

i dont have the steam version

[final hazel]

You need the steam version to transfer steam saves to xbgp

[solid skiff]

goddamn it man

[final hazel]

You could always replicate the file paths

[solid skiff]

sorry for wasting your time

[final hazel]

and trick it maybe

[solid skiff]

how would you do that

[final hazel]

literally just adding a HelloGanes > NMS > st_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx to Appdata > Roaming but that's a mega longshot

[solid skiff]

im gonna do that

[final hazel]

I think it needs more to go off of than that but like maybe

It has a good chance of working if you have the whole st_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx folder

[solid skiff]

are the Xs supposed to be my account number?

[final hazel]

I think, not sure if they're corelated to steam IDs or not

[solid skiff]

they are

[final hazel]

they are associated w the steamid64 decimal one

[solid skiff]

like this?

ok

also delete that

it can get your account stolen

[final hazel]

oh! lol well I can find my own steam ID online with my url as a search

so I doubt that!

anybody with my basic username could find that

[solid skiff]

there are utilities called cookie editors, all they need is your steam id and your page to steal your account

they find your password and login instantly

[final hazel]

well then they should have all 34278632467365276 steam accounts by now

[solid skiff]

😂

[final hazel]

because finding someones steam ID seems like it could be done in seconds lol

[solid skiff]

true

[final hazel]

steamidfinder.com is clearly complacent in an account stealing ring by those metrics /j

[solid skiff]

is the st folder supposed to look like this

[final hazel]

Exactly

literally exact replica

[solid skiff]

well then im out of luck

it didnt work

[final hazel]

aw :<

[solid skiff]

ill crack it and attempt again, thanks alot man

[final hazel]

I don't know why it wouldn't unless it tries to find nms or smth, I'm out of ideas

there's def more to do

Hell, I manually did mine

You might have to manually do yours

[solid skiff]

what the heeeell

how did you do that

[final hazel]

Changing every individual instance of your IDs and names to the destination platform equivalents

[solid skiff]

dumb it down

[final hazel]

It was messy but it worked

[solid skiff]

how do you even correlate the two thats crazy

[final hazel]

copying your LID, UID, USN and PTK from your destination platform to overwrite the old ones, mostly manually

[half arch]

@solid skiff im trying to understand the problem. If you have GP PC shouldn't you be able to just edit that save?
why use the steam one?

[solid skiff]

hi friend, the steam one has these

[final hazel]

dude you can just MAAKE THAT

[solid skiff]

i mean i guess thats possible

ill try

[final hazel]

using an existing save

[solid skiff]

idk where to get a save editor which does that

the cheat engine one is discontinued

[final hazel]

i mean nomnom ig but i know it's imperfect

[solid skiff]

nomnom doesnt get you this 😔

[half arch]

that's just stuff you cna do manually.
But transferring a steam save data to GP data may get trickier.
With the Ultimate subscription you could just straight edit your GP PC version

[final hazel]

Well goatfungus' did

[solid skiff]

wdym?

[solid skiff]

and how

oh nevermind i have the normal sub not the ultimate

so i need to resort to this

[final hazel]

you should be able to just set all blueprints and stuff to "learned"

[solid skiff]

in account edit?

unlock all??

[final hazel]

In goatfungus's you could just ctrl+a and learn all of them, which included customisation options and quicksilver titles, many unreleased

there's unlock all buttons right there! I think they would work for that

[half arch]

What i mean is there are properties in the save file directly related to its platform.
GP Ultimate subscription allows for transferring cross save from PC gamepass to Xbox GP.

Transferringg steam save to xbox.. idk. It may be possible, but im not sure how

[final hazel]

It is, I did it like 2 weeks ago

[solid skiff]

yeah its 100% possible but i dont have both games

[final hazel]

It's a feature built into Nomnom, saves go both ways

[solid skiff]

the issue was i wanted a steam save on gp

i didnt have the steam version

the steam save is from nexus

i didnt understand that

so i asked for help then i realised i needed the steam version

[half arch]

🤔 yea..

[solid skiff]

so i wasted everyones time with that 😔

[solid skiff]

ill try that

[half arch]

as long as you're not hinting at using illicit copies of NMS here, we're all good 😁

[final hazel]

It's okay, just press those buttons on your existing save and see what happens. Note that the titles will unlock across your account and I don't know how you would undo that so you would permanently have a bunch of weird anomaly titles and also all 15 expedition titles

I think exp2 had 2 titles

[solid skiff]

dont worry man im not gonna talk about anything of the sort

[solid skiff]

well we will see lol

[final hazel]

I accidentally did this and had to manually remove them all lol and remember which ones I had

the wiki has all the title IDs which was a godsend

[solid skiff]

are the titles a bad thing or does it show ive modded the account

[final hazel]

Nothing bad, just more cosmetic options

They'll just be in your list of equippable titles

No more cumbersome than the X-0 suit

[solid skiff]

whats the x-0 suits

[final hazel]

or whatever the headpiece is called

the xbox preorder

[solid skiff]

a game this big makes me wonder how the hell people actually ran rtx on most games on the 2060

its so insane to comprehend

[final hazel]

It was an overhyped thing, nobody really ran rtx stuff with those besides minecraft at 20fps

[solid skiff]

imagine turning it on for the first time and getting a "app unresponsive" pop-up

[half arch]

to be fair, 2060 did not support rtx afaik.
2070 super was the first to

[solid skiff]

fair enough

[final hazel]

still weird how the first gen of rtx was barely able to do it's namesake lol, the 30 series was justifiably hyped

[solid skiff]

nah the 2080 is such a beast

[final hazel]

the 40 series is just 30 the sequel, like how 20 was 10 the sequel

[final hazel]

very true, still not something I'd ever say is outclassed or obsolete

Same with the 1080 tho

[solid skiff]

the 1080 is somehow up with the 3060

[final hazel]

Yeah it's crazy, and even then the 3060 is really really good

[half arch]

2080 TI 👀

[final hazel]

I'm not surprised it's becoming the new 1060/1660

[solid skiff]

are we pushing the standards or is nvidia creating such underpowered future cards

[solid skiff]

💀

[half arch]

just don't talk about the 4060, that card should have not been made

[glass lake]

Still looking for anyone who wants to help test my exploration mod list that will soon be up on nexus collecitons 🙂

[solid skiff]

me sitting here with a 4060

its funny because i pray every day for me to wake up with a radeon card instead of this piece of crap

its an underpowered 2060

[final hazel]

What's wackier is the 4070ti being as good as the 3090 (ik it's a rebranded 4080 12gb but still lol)

[solid skiff]

to be fair its still really powerful

[half arch]

oh my bad. didn't mean to imply anything.
Its a card that can still perform well for 1080p.
but its a bit of a waste considering older gen ones doing betetr

[solid skiff]

oh no man if anything id agree with you

im telling my brother that if he upgrades hes gonna go full AMD

just hope he listens

there is so many expedition rewards wow

[final hazel]

Has it worked?

[solid skiff]

so far yeah its crazy

still no unreleased items :(

[final hazel]

You should already have the quicksilver items claimed

Did you check the appearance customizer for the xbox helm?

[solid skiff]

first thing yeah

it was the same

so i went to the anomaly

[final hazel]

was it there? or not

[solid skiff]

nope

[final hazel]

I forget what I did to give it to my creative save

[solid skiff]

thats fine man

[final hazel]

it should be in crafted products but it's icon is a blob and I saw that you can aparrently craft it as an item for some reason that way so idk 💀

[solid skiff]

where can i find my crafted products

[final hazel]

in the catalogue, the middle thing

though I imagine you already clicked "unlock all" there

[final hazel]

in the save editor

lol

[solid skiff]

oh

funny because i didnt even see the different tabs

[solid skiff]

only quicksynthesis

[final hazel]

???

[solid skiff]

yeah

i didnt see the different tabs

i did just now

hopefully should be there now

[final hazel]

that should add literally everything available in the game! including unobtainable legacy base parts for both freighter and planetary building

including many expedition-exclusive crafting recipes that do nothing and are best left ignored

like you can now install entire extra engines or whatever idek

it was weird

nothing bad about crafting more things until you put an extra engine onto a ship that can never be removed and probably does nothing but act as adjacency fodder

[final hazel]

You can also unlock all words, all max ranks, pre-release ships, and anything money or nanites can buy manually, and even supercharge ALL exosuit, starship and multitool tech slots

[solid skiff]

i wasnt even reading and now my jaw dropped

i was unfocused

im still loading in

[final hazel]

hahaha

[solid skiff]

thanks for the information

one more thing, berst mod for stutter?

best

[final hazel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3126

[solid skiff]

thanks dude

[final hazel]

this should increase the filesize of the game to like 50gb

but it fixes EVERY stutter

updates will break it but you can just redo the program

you can also delete the old files after it finishes, idk if it'll work w the gamepass version but it should

there aren't big differences since mods work uninhibited w it

[solid skiff]

thats alright

aslong as everything runs beautifully

[final hazel]

same here 🫡

[solid skiff]

i wont even lie you guys are probably the coolest mods and helpers ive ever spoken to

i talked to this one helper in an elden ring modding server

about what mods i can use for a certain boss

he said "get better"

[solid skiff]

i mean i already know that but damn dude

is it done?

nevermind

it continued

my pc

help

ollag

lag

[half arch]

I would have personally waited until they're done this patch phase 😄
couple days youll have to do it again

[solid skiff]

unfortunate

id do it again lol

[solid skiff]

this took so long holy

it finished decompressing now

it destroyed my fps

there is still stutter

😔

[steel crypt]

… and people wonder why it’s not how HG does it.

[solid skiff]

how do i fix it

i now know why they compressed it

its as big as gta

[steel crypt]

Also requires you to read a LOT more from storage.

How do you fix what?

[solid skiff]

how do i compress it again

[steel crypt]

I’m not sure. Never done that before.

[solid skiff]

it should be in packaged file backup

ironically i deleted that 5 seconds ago

[steel crypt]

I mean you can use psarctool to compress everything in the same way HG did it, but I don’t know what those settings are.

Another option is reinstall.

[solid skiff]

probably the better option

[half arch]

curious why it had the adverse effect on you.
to be clear that should only be done when your game is installed on fast ssd

[steel crypt]

Fast ssd and “slower” CPU

[solid skiff]

im running this game on a HDD and i keep my competitive or multiplayer games on hdd

do you recommend SSD?

[solid skiff]

13th gen i5

[half arch]

even in normal conditions without using the unpacked files you should not be running NMS on a spinning HDD

that goes for most modern games too

[solid skiff]

😂

[half arch]

i assume your loading times are terribl;e

[solid skiff]

this old boy has been in service for 3 years

[half arch]

and it makes sense why it was taking so long to unpack as well

[solid skiff]

could watch a whole yt video before loading the game

[solid skiff]

i couldve gotten married in that time period lmao

[steel crypt]

I have only played on HDD with NMS.

[solid skiff]

https://medal.tv/games/no-mans-sky/clips/iuKPEjHX0Jp_SzbVr/d13377Mjns40?invite=cr-MSw3T1YsMTg4NjgwMTkxLA

take a look for yourself

[solid skiff]

why wont it embed

[half arch]

I mean the option is there, fine.
But i would always recommend installing it on ssd

!familiarrole @solid skiff

[hardy aurora]

@solid skiff
-# to view info below, enable embeds

• 🔓 Unlock uploads, link embeds, reactions, and #memes🤡 with <@&337090468900765706> role (Xp Level 5).
• Chat to gain Xp (except #bot-spam where you run commands). Don't spam, there's a cooldown. Run !Xp to check level & !RoleHelp for more info.
• 📸 #nms-media » any NMS capture (add text for Xp). Other channels for screenshots? Run !ImageHelp

[solid skiff]

thanks man

https://medal.tv/games/no-mans-sky/clips/iuKPEjHX0Jp_SzbVr/d13377Mjns40?invite=cr-MSw3T1YsMTg4NjgwMTkxLA

bruh

[half arch]

meaning when you hit lvl 5 embeds will unlock :)

[solid skiff]

oh lol

[steel crypt]

If wanting to drive fast, I would recommend a Ferrari F40, but I don’t have one.

[solid skiff]

but yeah what im trying to show is if youd look at the video im running the game at 10 fps

with 9 of iot being stutters

woah guys i deleted the game and it deleted the mods with it

would you look at that

awesome

[steel crypt]

If running on HDD I would defrag the NMS folder. You can do this with free Defraggler.

[solid skiff]

[solid skiff]

no need im reinstalling

see ive done this so many times i have a habit of creating a winrar mod archive dedicated to every game i played