nms-modding

[round sinew]

i didn't run it, this is the zip available on nexus from that same mod page

apparently, you should have a single pak file as a result

then, just confirm that it's in the right MODS folder

No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS\MODS

[round sinew]

open that path, is the mod in there?

[tender quiver]

yep just like the first time

and i even got the alert saying i had mods installed

[round sinew]

then yeah, perhaps like jason said: ymmv

[tender quiver]

its definietly my computer lmao

i have 40 series card and an x3D cpu

i shouldnt be having issues

im just gonna start from the beggining and reinstall windows and troubleshoot from there especially because these performance issues stem across games

[round sinew]

i think that's going to be a waste of time really

everyone i know has that, we no longer consider it an issue even

[tender quiver]

its not just because of no mans sky

i have issues across the board

also the stutter i experience is seemingly 10x longer than all the other ones that have been described to me

[round sinew]

might be memory sticks, might be a bunch of things

[tender quiver]

never had these problems with my last computer

shouldnt have bought a prebuilt

just didnt wanna build one again

[round sinew]

make sure you've got everything, top to bottom, updated

heck, i'd even test a different OS

disable EXPO profiles if you've got them enabled

[tender quiver]

isnt that overclocking shi

[round sinew]

well, with a bit of research you'll see that while xmp/expo are indeed overclocks, manufacturers support them from factory, and honor warranties

that's not the same as saying that every xmp/expo profile out there works for every single machine config

no one buys gaming ram and not going to enable that profile to get the advertised speed

this convo can go into #964865106334875698 if needed from now on

[steel crypt]

@tender quiver When you go from planet to space, game unpacks files. Then loads things. Because of the size of files, the compression used, and all other things that could be happening on your pc, this will take some time. Using the “mod” (which is just some stuff repacked without compression) will only be a benefit if loading more from storage to memory is faster than loading less from storage then unpacking to memory.

Understand that the first time you do this per game session, it will be doing the whole process. After that those things will stay in memory unless it’s culled to make room for other needed things.

On my super potato pc, without this “mod” I get a lag spike of about 1 sec max on the first time. After that I can’t perceive any lag when it loads straight from memory.

If testing your situation, you need to test first time and second and third etc. You will see different results.

If people are getting lag spike on second or third atmo exit, then it’s not NMS. It can be a million things going on with your hardware and software running however it is on your pc. If you’re running other stuff in the background like suck virus programs that scan every freakin process, that will hurt. There are so many things that will change how your pc is dealing with memory and that’s the issue. Not hardware isn’t good enough. But maybe hardware config badly.

And you’re probably not going to eliminate the lag completely even with the “mod” unless you have badass speed storage and memory, or a badass CPU with badass buss and memory.

[pine anvil]

never seen an official community point to save edits/mods before, nice

i know elden ring and phasmophobia devs are really strict about it

anyway my question is

1. is it against tos to play earlier expeditions
2. if it's not against tos, can you mod in earlier expeditions
3. if you can mod in earlier expeditions, can you get the rewards on non-modded saves

[fresh arch]

no, yes, yes

If you want to actually play the expeds - https://github.com/leodium/leodium-ReLive-NoMansSky-Expeditions-Offline

[pine anvil]

tysm <3

[fresh arch]

If you just want the rewards, look up mods like Consumerism or Seasonal Rewards Unlocker on Nexus Mods

[pine anvil]

i'd rather work to unlock them tbh

but ty anyway :3

[hearty wasp]

I don't think anyone has ever checked the tos to see if anything is disallowed tbh

[solid hawk]

Reality is that HelloGames doesn't care

Doesn't matter to them, one way or the other, if you play legacy expeditions. 🙂

[steel crypt]

DUD'S SKY - COLORS updated v472-B

• Updated _MOD_DUD_WeirdColors_v472-A to _MOD_DUD_WeirdColors_v472-B
  (Possible fix for crash/CTD while loading Weird/Exotic biomes in some rare cases.)
  https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968

@round sinew Don't know if you've seen a related crash. If so, this hopefully will cure it.

[digital flax]

Is the mod Consumerism still up to date? Followed the guide on how to install mods, got the pop up in game saying that im currently playing with mods. But onces i opend the quicsilver guy i coundt claim the rewards.

[fresh arch]

With Consumerism you buy the rewards with Quicksilver

[digital flax]

oh i see now. Thx!

[slow river]

made a handy batch script that decompresses and repacks all the game pak with compression disabled to speed up loading in the game, mod friendly and surprisingly effective, especially for those with weaker CPUs, although if NMS updates, you'll have to validate game cache and rerun it, so it's not 100% maintenance free.
https://github.com/cheatfreak47/misc-scripts/releases/tag/NMS-Decompressinator
if you try it let me know how much of an improvement you see, on my PC with an i7 7700 I can say for sure I get a lot less lag spikes in general, and overall loading times are a lot better, especially the one when initially loading into a save file

Oh and obviously it requires a lot of free space, ~40GB of additional storage since it is repacking the game uncompressed

[round sinew]

sorry for the late reply; i haven't but luckily maybe i haven't visited weird biomes in the last few days

[steel crypt]

Yeah one user reported. I experienced it. Very hard to replicate. Rare situation and odd workaround. HG bug but this might avoid it.

[steel crypt]

DUD'S SKY updated v472-C

• (Complete rework of AI ship behavior and abilities.)
• (Complete rework of all ship characteristics.)
  https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/507

[brazen nymph]

well, I think that one of my mods may have went haywire

(for context: there is supposed to be a planet here)

[obtuse salmon]

would anyone happen to know where loading screens are stored inside the files? I'm trying to turn the restore point loading screen into a wallpaper but I can't find it anywhere

[trim grove]

@steel crypt hey man, I have to ask, why do you delete older versions of your mods?
I wanted to try out your cool lighting mod in visions but now I can't 😦

[solid hawk]

Many of us remove older versions, especially with mods that have been around for years, to 1) Keep things clean 2) Ease our burden of supportability. I know with my mods, I'll provide older version .paks on request, which is quite rare. Very small numbers run legacy.

Why not just run current NMS, then can use the DUDs mods, along with many others.

[trim grove]

I guess that makes sense probably nobody asks

there are reasons to run legacy versions because of small changes or things get removed

consider this a public request for 1.77.17 then 😁

[limpid dust]

Hey, so I use the Goatfungus editor. 🐐🍄‍🟫

I had previously claimed all the Expedition / Twitch rewards (I sadly don’t have a lot of time to earn them legitimately) and then, in a lapse of judgement, claimed as many of the unique eggs as I could before realizing that they were all unlabeled in my inventory, and thus I had no idea which was which.

I decided to use Goatfungus to clear my storage of all the unmarked eggs and modify my account info so I can reclaim them again, but sadly it didn’t seem to work.

Now I have none of the eggs and the game doesn’t want to give me replacements.

What can I do to reclaim them?

[viral oak]

...doesnt save editor make backups?

[limpid dust]

Worth mentioning I had made a large amount of personal progress on my save between initially claiming the eggs and deciding to delete them

So rolling back a previous save would be less than ideal

[vale iron]

I don't think the GUI lets you edit the claimed items record, but I could be wrong or out of date. Last I remember, I had to go to JSON edit and find the claimed specials and delete the items from that list (or you can probably just delete it if you want to reset the whole list, but I can't promise that would be without problems)

[steel crypt]

What lighting mod? What is the name of the mod specifically?

I delete old mods because screw having hundred versions haha
I’m not maintaining that.

[cyan vortex]

Is modding ez?

[trim grove]

dud's sky colors? whichever version last worked with nms 1.77

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

to view info below, enable embeds

<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[solid hawk]

Using or creating mods?

Using, can be. The more mods you wish to use, the more complex it can become.

[viral oak]

creating mods, frankly, also can be...unless you're trying to do something that hasnt already been done to death. 🐱

[quasi mason]

oh damn, didn't notice terra firma 2 came out already. good reason to get back to no man's sky

[steel crypt]

That mod/mods was very early and small compared to now. I might still have a version, but I need to know EXACTLY what version NMS you’re talking about. 1.77 had several version numbers in the series.

[steel crypt]

FYI you will be on your own getting it to work. Also might be known issues. I can’t remember.

[solid hawk]

15% more terra and 50% more firma (thanks to silicon injections). 🤪

[solid hawk]

For those who use it, Astro's Bridge is now fixed for NMS4.7x. Use the .Lua linked in POSTS to generate the .pak. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2050?tab=posts

1. Fixed characters at weird angles
2. Split Bridge and Pirate Bridge to be handled separately, so there's some differentiation in looks
3. Both the Bridge and Pirate Bridge files are built more granularly. In theory may help make the Lua slightly more future proof.
4. Removed version number from .pak name, so a new version will overwrite, instead of having to manually remove old version.
   Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky
   Astro's Bridge
   An alternative freighter bridge layout inspired and mentored by JJ. Open front, stations at back, your officers sit next to you in the command center, you can even call up the galaxy map while sitting

Sorry it took so long for a fix update this time. Lua was pretty bullet proof for awhile, but HG has been making lots of file changes last few NMS major versions, necessitating surgery for this mod. Keep in mind, I'm a user of the mod, not the original author, so breakfix work on this one comes AFTER I've caught up on work for the mods I author and other stuff on my to do list.

[limpid dust]

So uhhhhhhhhhh got a guide for that?

[solid hawk]

Is no guide specifically for that. Multiple editors, each different.

I know both bk201 and Devilin Pixy have walked people through this process before, in #nms-questions , but you may need to dig around a bit

[fluid lintel]

is Light no Fire also gonna be lua modded?

[ebon cosmos]

After watching trailer, the only piece of LNF we got I can say with full confidence
I don't know

[hearty wasp]

you will know when the game comes out

[dusky linden]

Is there a channel for discussing save editing, or a separate discord server like the modding one?

[steel crypt]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[steel crypt]

@dusky linden

[dusky linden]

Ah, the sharing hub, thx.

[digital turtle]

If I set my JSON file to read only will steam stop reverting my orb when I go online mode?

everytime i try to go online mode the file gets overwritten by steam

[hearty wasp]

Pause steam cloud and then reenable after saving in game a few times

[trim bough]

any mod that maximizes my upgrade mods right now?

the popular one rn in broken i think

[fresh arch]

If the mod in question happens to have a LUA or C# script available, you can try to recompile it yourself

Using AMUMSS or NMS Mod Builder respectively

[solid hawk]

The one that comes to my mind is PUM, which has an Lua script

[digital turtle]

Just FYI setting my save specific json to read only worked.

[serene ember]

Not to do with Modding but I was wondering if because y'all r modders if u know what the highest maneuverability a sentinel ship can have without any upgrades is

[solid hawk]

Based on class. This is for S, SHIP_AGILE

[vale iron]

Flight type also has modifiers. Unfortunately, none of the MBIN stats translate directly to what you see in the UI, so probably won't be useful

You'll need people that just look in game to see what the most they can get is

[serene ember]

So anyone know where I can find a sentinel ship with perfect maneuverability and 2x2 square supercharged slots?

[solid hawk]

Not even sure what perfect maneuverability would be. Well before you hit max cap, it'll start bugging out, causing the ship to spin like a top when trying to turn. This is the one stat it doesn't pay to have high.

[spiral condor]

Does someone who is modding the game have the ability to tell me where I ship I would want us by using seeds or something. Like I can describe it and it will look through every galaxy to find a match? Is that possible?

[solid hawk]

They do that over on https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

There is no perfect, you get it over ~5k and you ship will have a seizure

Just get one decent and you can boost it with tech however you want

[eager bobcat]

Hi!
I am facing a problem with the 13th expedition, phase two "among the stars" or something I can't locate the boundary portal. The marker just dissapeared after I inserted the mind arc and flew off, now I am hard stuck with no possibility of progressing further.
Does somebody know a solution to this?
Can I possibly use the save editor?

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

to view info below, enable embeds

<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[serene ember]

I don't want for gameplay I want for flexing

[hearty wasp]

That's irrelevant to what I said

[serene ember]

I mb I just re read and I understand what it saying now except for the fact that there has to be a perfect maneuverability

[rigid gate]

I've seen some crazy builds lately (multi-tools, ships etc) and got curious: how far can you change a ship or multitool in save editing?
Anything goes? Can you change SC layouts? Stats of the tech modules you installed?
(Felt this was the appropriate place to ask, sorry if it isn't!)

[mighty raft]

hey guys, totally not related to anything but figured someone here might now. i'm using reshade for maybe the second time and installed a shader from nexus to my game, but unlike the other reshade i've used when i press the Home key nothing happens. was wondering if my shader is working or not. does it just start when the game does since i installed it during the reshade installation? i dunno ima noob

[solid hawk]

SC layout. seed, and base model used, for the most part. Costs nothing to download and take a look with one of the save editors. Give it a shot.

[rigid gate]

Thanks! Seems interesting. I may take a look when I'm back to my desktop. I've been only playing the Mac version... 😅

[sonic yoke]

Hi. Could someone give me an old corrupted Sentinel as a pet?

Ik walkers and quads can be pets so...

[solid hawk]

Updated:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2645
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1096

[remote thorn]

Is there any way I can check a ship or multi-tool's seed to see how many cargo slots it had before I upgraded it?

[solid hawk]

Nope. If you backup your saves, you can go to an earlier save and check that way.

[remote thorn]

Wouldn't it work on a different save? I assumed the seed would generate the same number of slots every time.

[solid hawk]

I don't think # of inventory slots is even a seed based parameter. I know that in the game files there's ranges for this particular thing specified.

[round sinew]

i wouldn't click that link

this, https://hyperhuman.deemos.com/, would be the right link it seems to me

sorry, it seems link was okay, but i've become extra wary of links like that

[timid burrow]

Yeah. It’s alright to be skeptical of concatinated links these days, no harm in that. @fleet surge feel free to reshare the link if you want to, although the same website is shared by friend entity BK too.
Maybe shed some light on how this website or tool can be helpful to the modders here. 😄

[hearty wasp]

that concatinated link looked like a referral link

prolly'd've got some AI spacebucks for em

and unless it generates a more perfect Sean Murray face it doesn't really do shit

[solid hawk]

It wouldn't be the least little bit helpful to any NMS modder

Advertised garbage, bk201 did the right thing.

[deep brook]

Any mods out there that will reskin a pet to look like a humanoid companion? Asking for a friend

[solid hawk]

No, there aren't

[trim bough]

the mod does has a LUA but does amumss or nms mod builder make the mod compatible with the current game version?

[fresh arch]

Yes they do

In case of AMUMSS it takes the files from your local game installation (we assume these are up-to-date)

And modifies them according to the instructions in LUA script to build the actual mod

You are compiling the mods from your current game files, so in theory you get fully compatible mods

[trim bough]

is that what all the modders do for future updates? Just recompile?

[fresh arch]

Not all modders, some still craft mods by hand, some mods don't need to be updated for every game version

But yeah, the idea is to just chuck the script into AMUMSS to generate a new version of the mod each time it's required

If HG doesn't change game files in significant manner, the same script can be used over and over again

[trim bough]

ideally im doing this on pc and then sending it to my self so i put it on my rog ally

[fresh arch]

I do the same on Steam Deck

Compile my personal mod list after each update, copy the whole folder onto an SD card

Then load it on the game install on the Deck

[trim bough]

Do you want to use AMUMSS in [F]ULL, [D]EV or [L]EAN mode

what should i do at this question

[fresh arch]

TBH I never know the difference so I go with Full

[trim bough]

oh man it asked questions during compiling the pak and i didnt have much time to digest what was asked

but fairly straight forward guide i used and it worked

@fresh arch does AMUMSS merge mods?

i have a settlement mod i currently use but theres another settlement mod i wanna use also but both mods edit the GCSETTLEMENTGLOBAL.mbin file

[fallen ingot]

So I'm very new to modding NMS but I know mod conflicts are a big thing, what's the best way to check and make sure I don't have any conflicts between mods?

I've got several mods installed and I'm not sure all of them are working.

[trim bough]

the best way is to just check the mod page you got it from

most if not all modders list the .mbin files the mods edit

[fresh arch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626

Both of y'all check this guide

[trim bough]

ya i used that guide

[fresh arch]

For merging mods and for installing AMUMSS, it has a script to check for conflicts between mods

[trim bough]

when you merge, does the bat file let you choose a new name for end result?

[fresh arch]

Yeah there was something like ModName1+ModName2+... or CombinedPAK

It asks you this when it detects multiple LUAs in Mod Script folder and you pick the Combined option

But you can always rename the compiled PAK file yourself later on

[trim bough]

Available pak Types:
2 - CombinedMod_(x).pak (x = index number of last combined script in pak)
3 - mod1+mod2+mod3.pak (a composite name of the combined mods)

so just pick 2?

[fresh arch]

pick the name format you like more

I usually go with the later option, I like the proper mod names visible

[vague yacht]

if I were to theoretically delete ProfanityFilter.dll in the game's files, what would happen? I assume the game checks that the file exists and doesn't let you in if it doesn't, but idk

[solid hawk]

No clue. Give it a try and see what happens.

Most likely, game won't care and will let you in

[vale iron]

Dev is usually good for most uses. Lean is a tiny bit faster but leaves out some useful tools. Full adds some logging on the console, I think, which is not particularly useful and slows things down

[round sinew]

i've stayed on 472-A, and was finally able to confirm this CTD (so even affecting game when running on linux via proton), pulse driving down into a cablepod subtype. i'll try finding the same system/planet again, i didn't land in the station unfortunately, and run the updated version this time, then again if i can repro in vanilla.

ah, saved by autosave; @steel crypt did not crash on the first attempt on the same planet after installing 472-B

pretty 🤩

[hardy aurora]

@lucid edge

No gifs in this channel please

[lucid edge]

epic fail

[lofty quartz]

how does the save editor work?

I'd need some help with it because i've never done it

[hearty wasp]

You just start using it until you point you get stuck then you ask for how to not get stuck

[lofty quartz]

i dont even know how i should start

[hearty wasp]

you double click the program you downloaded

#nms-modding message

[lofty quartz]

i did

well i kinda figured out that i can choose what stuff i want, does that save automatically or am i just wrong

wait i believe i found it out

nvm i haven't

yea i have absolutly no idea

[hearty wasp]

depends on which you are using

[lofty quartz]

im using nomnom

[hearty wasp]

File > Save?

[lofty quartz]

what

[hearty wasp]

to save

[lofty quartz]

when im done with what i want?

[hearty wasp]

you save when you want to save, yes

[lofty quartz]

alright give me a moment

i saved now

and now i can go ingasme and i just have it?

it worked thanks

one more question, when i selected ships do i need free spots for them or how does that work?

[hearty wasp]

it may be easier to just grab a scrap ship and then modify that in the editor

[lofty quartz]

i mean an expedition ship

[hearty wasp]

that doesn't really bwear any relevance

you just change a ship into another ship either way

[lofty quartz]

i dont understand that

[hearty wasp]

you can grab a random ship in game

and then change that ship into any other ship you want in the editor

matters not what ship you change it into

[lofty quartz]

oh thank you

[lofty quartz]

can other people see those ships?

[hearty wasp]

yeah

vanilla ships are vanilla ships

[lofty quartz]

oo

and can i change the looks of a royal ships with that?

[hearty wasp]

sure

[lucid edge]

would it be possible to mod these bits to make them spin faster

[lofty quartz]

how do i do that?

[hearty wasp]

you change the seed

[hearty wasp]

prolly

[lofty quartz]

and how can i get the iron vulture bc it doesnt say anything specific

[fresh arch]

Give yourself the individual parts

Then use them with a fabricator machine

The Iron Vulture model is not generated from a seed

[lofty quartz]

where do i get those parts in nomnom

because i cant find them

[solid hawk]

Give this a try in-game and let me know the results. In theory, I've increased the default spin speed from 0.1 to 0.5.

[lucid edge]

epic win

[solid hawk]

Take it that means it worked. Here's the Lua script, so you can tweak the setting to your liking and and recompile to .pak with AMUMSS. Link to mod, at #nms-modding message

[lucid edge]

awesome

thanks!

[lofty quartz]

i cant find the parts

[fresh arch]

Neither can I since I dont use NomNom

[lofty quartz]

wait which one do you use if i may ask

[lofty quartz]

can i even find the single parts on nomnom

i'd kinda need the iron vulture parts but idk where i can find them

[solid hawk]

Going WAY out on a limb here, bringing up mods, in a modding channel, but https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3060

Can also just play through the expedition to get the Iron Vulture. Still a week or so left, I believe.

[steel crypt]

Thanks for info. Went through bad storm. Everything will be down for a while. See ya soon.

[half tulip]

I may have forgotten how to download on steam deck is it copy to pc banks, mods or extract to pc banks, mods?

Trying to install the update for eulic ea mod but it’s not showing

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

to view info below, enable embeds

<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fresh arch]

1st link for basic install instructions

[half tulip]

Okay thanks for quick response

[half tulip]

Got it I forgot to delete the mod text thingy

It works now

I got my mods back but my road system I built won’t load up……. Does this mean I need to rebuild after every update?? 😑

[hearty wasp]

if you mean a custom buildable object then you just don't load that save until the mods are updated and reinstalled

[half tulip]

Okay

I also wanted to know where I can get expedition items without having to do expedition I’ve seen other people suggest a site but I don’t know if it’s legal

I believe it’s called service bot app but don’t know if it’s legal to use in no mans sky

[hearty wasp]

nothing's illegal

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

ask there

[half tulip]

Thanks

[solid hawk]

New mod https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3081 . Thanks to @lucid edge for the request. 🙂

[lucid edge]

epic

[solid hawk]

Used your screenshot and video. Saved some bother getting those. lol 🙂

[lucid edge]

okay

[sage mortar]

hello guys,

i am searching for a method to disable the "effects" from the "impulse drive" ........ this hurts my eyes and i get hard migraine triggered.

i would be happy about every help.

thanks in b4

[fresh arch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2339

Maybe this: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1712, will need to be compiled with AMUMSS for current game version

[solid hawk]

Deprecated. The setting doesn't exist in that file anymore.

[fresh arch]

❔

[solid hawk]

Yep, that one is correct. The RogerHN one changed AsteroidMaxNumGeneratesPulseJump in GCSOLARGENERATIONGLOBALS

[fresh arch]

Oh so the property was moved but released mod / LUA wasn't updated?

[solid hawk]

Roger last updated in 2020 and the property changed in 2021 or 2022

This is for a mod that came after the property move

[solid hawk]

Since what's available via NexusMods is outdated and abandoned for years, I've added as an Addon to https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2339?tab=files

[plain oyster]

Anyone know if I can save edit ownership to a settlement? Can’t find a settlement on this planet even after an hour of using charts

[radiant harbor]

does anyone know if there is amod that will allow me to tame any creature, not just the usual suspects? i found an animate light beam that I want

[vale iron]

I think companion pet unlocker
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1868

[candid salmon]

did anyone try to recruit their crafted ship into their own squadron yet?

when I tried, i noticed the following:

• craft ship = fighter, fly out and in to get it to the "general" parking spots
• wait for system ship = shuttle to come in
• exchange crafted fighter with shuttle
• no pilot at crafted fighter
• exchange ship shuttle back for fighter
• pilot appears at shuttle

so i'm going to assume that at the very least, I would need the save editor

[candid salmon]

but just pasting the found seed for the ship (current, crafted) into the squadron pilot ship seed field gives me a very different ship (same wings, engine, different fusilage and colour)

[vale iron]

Crafted ships use overrides, not seeds, so you're not going to get the same results. I don't think crafted work with squads

[candid salmon]

myeah, i haven't found another approach yet

ty for the info / confirming

[sly veldt]

is the "fine lod" a good mod for lod loading or performances problems ?

because the lods are loading in a delayed way for me and i'm forced to lower down the render distance of lods

[solid hawk]

numerous other things you could try, depending how potato your system is.

Both of the above Lua scripts, will generate a useable .pak when processed through AMUMSS

[sage mortar]

Thanks a lot Babscoole and FriendlyFire.

that helps a lot and is exactly what i searched for 😉

Cheers and Thumbs up

[limpid dust]

Still don't know what to do regarding this

[round sinew]

this is the account unlock tab

[limpid dust]

Ye I did that then deleted the eggs with the editor assuming i could magic them back in

[round sinew]

if you want to make a specific save forget you claimed something, it can't be done here

[limpid dust]

ah

[round sinew]

it has to be done via json editor

as i explained in -help

goatfungus, select desired game slot, Edit, Edit raw json; expand Base Context, PlayerStateData, KnownSpecials

[limpid dust]

I see.

If I just nuked the whole list what would happen

[round sinew]

edit, edit raw json

to forget you claimed something, you just delete the relevant lines on the right

[limpid dust]

I nuked the list and it changed nothing, do I also have to uncheck the claimed items in the save editor account tab?

[round sinew]

what list did you nuke

[limpid dust]

Known Specials

[round sinew]

and you went to the quicksilver shop, and couldn't claim stuff again?

[limpid dust]

Yerp. Was still using my Atlas Scepter and had claimed expedition rewards.

Do I have to uncheck the boxes before loading the save?

Does it matter if I saved aboard the Anomaly? Should I leave it and resummon it?

[round sinew]

wait, in json editor, scroll further down past KnownSpecials, and goto RedeemedSeasonRewards

don't forget to save changes ofc

[round sinew]

no, shouldn't be a problem

so i'd suggest deleting the relevant knownspecials and redeemedseasonrewards

[limpid dust]

If I obliterated both lists and started from scratch would that break anything

[round sinew]

as far as anything else? probably not. i was thinking stuff like cosmetics: let's say you had equipped a jetpack trail, which is no longer known after this edit. idk how the game will react. in any case, that's why backups from before save editing exist

[limpid dust]

Huh. I still have my jetpack trail but it did turn me into a basic astronaut instead of my customized character with expedition-specific cosmetics.

As for the list nuking, seems to let me claim things again!

[round sinew]

good, redeemedseasonrewards then

[limpid dust]

Now if only the dang exclusive eggs were labeled because the whole reason I got into this mess to begin with was because they weren't. and i forgot which pet was in which exclusive egg after claiming them all at once

I'll have to claim them individually this time and make a list lol

Shame that there's so many exclusive pets / ships / guns and nowhere near enough inventory slots to use them all

[limpid dust]

is there a way to edit the name of items in goatfungus? So I can label the eggs?

[round sinew]

not sure, never tried doing that

[solid hawk]

Probably not. If you were to be able to rename something, the exe would no longer recognize it and delete the item.

[remote thorn]

Is it possible to find an item's seed number if I have it's name?

[hearty wasp]

not really

[marsh eagle]

Countless seeds exist that produce the same duplicate name. There isn't a unique seed for each name. But you can do it the other way around, find a seed for a given name.

[remote thorn]

That's what I want to do, how can?

[solid hawk]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2674

Not certain if it's working with current version or requires an update. NMS 5.0, releasing today, is almost certain to break it though.

[remote thorn]

Tha'ts ok, I'm on GOG so it'll probably be a week late anyway.

I'll try that, thanks.

[solid hawk]

GoG has been better lately. Day or two behind for some updates.

[obsidian tree]

IMPORTANT: There have again been some changes to the MBIN file format. This means that the MBINCompiler update will be slightly more delayed than normal. Also because of these changes, NO new mbin files will be readable until I get this new version out (not without some manual hacking in hex if you are up to it, and even then you'll need luck that the format of the struct itself hasn't changed).
Initial looks at the files indicate that the change might not be too bad to deal with if it's just what I can initially see, but it's late where I am so it's likely that I won't be able ot have a good look for another 8h or so

Gumsk sniping me haha

[vale iron]

Yours is better 😄

[obsidian tree]

figured I'd give some more details as to what's going on

[fresh arch]

@shy grove prolly gotta update the last PSA for the new update then

Make it related to version 5.0

[junior hatch]

its been about a month since i could play nms, due to using experimental (due to finding a bug in the expedition so i couldnt complete it)

i ended up with an incompatible save file for my main when i switched back to normal build

probably missed the expedition because of it, but just saw an update was available so here's to launching and seeing my base again - hopefully!

[shy grove]

same PSA as before that also stated that save editors were not affected...?

Referring to this previous PSA: #nms-modding message

[obsidian tree]

unknown whether save editors are affected as of yet AFAIK

unless someone else has looked into it

maybe say it's unkown. Texture mods may be fine unless they changed some texture formats I guess

but rest of message is basically the same

[hybrid coral]

My mods just imploded, even the utmost basic stuff like old UI edits insta crash me rn

[shy grove]

Update 5.0 PSA

With the release of today's 5.0 update, consider all mods to be incompatible with the game due to some deep level changes HG made to the files. Do not use mods that were compiled before the 5.0 update. Wait for mod authors to update their mods or use tools like AMUMSS or NMS Mod Builder with a new version of MBIN Compiler to generate an up-to-date version of the mods yourself.

With the sole exception of pure TEXTURE mods. Those will be fine, but anything with an MBIN file, the above will apply.
Note: Save editors may also be affected.

See relevant important note above: #nms-modding message

[hybrid coral]

@fresh arch and your epic invis bobblehead mod too

[obsidian tree]

basically every single mod will not work

[fresh arch]

And nothing can be done about it now

Since tools for modding need to be reworked again

[small valve]

Oddly, HG did not add the DISABLESMODS.TXT file back in for this huge update.

[junior hatch]

ah man, forgot i finally got my mods to work not long before i incompatible save file stuff happened - so im still waiting for the mods to update before i can play again...

man, the month continues

[fresh arch]

Whelp, the game is still being developed

So HG can do whatever they want with the game files

[viral oak]

headdesks repeatedly

[lime mesa]

What are the recommended mods if I wanted to increase the size scaling of construction parts? Also, would this be a nice work around of the construction limit put in place if I wanted to build big?

[hearty wasp]

nothing because updates break mods and there's an update today

ask again in a week

[lime mesa]

Oh ok

[lime mesa]

But hypothetically if construction scaling was doable, would that be a functional word around to building big bases under the construction limit?

Actually

That’s mod dependent because idk if upscale parts would even could as “1 individual part”

Nvm haha

[hasty vale]

There used to be a manual way with PSArcTool to apply the "fix for stutter on entering space" tweak. Looks like the .pak names may have changed recently; anyone figured out how to apply it to the new layout yet?

[quasi garden]

Just waiting for mod updates so i can get the new stuff

[vale iron]

gBase Boundaries allows item scaling

When updated

[solid hawk]

Be aware, scaling breaks snapping. Then you become good friends with free placement

[solid hawk]

Look for the DIY version of the planet lag mod on nexusmods

[hasty vale]

Ah, gotcha. Looks like I had found an out of date one that had an obfuscated pak name. Looks like NMSARC.MeshMisc.pak is the one to extract 🍻

[lime mesa]

Tysm

[solid hawk]

As does beyond base building. Allowing some build objects to be scaled, that you otherwise wouldn't be able to. Can be used with gbase boundary (which adjusts scale range)

[vale iron]

Oh yeah, I forgot the exact interaction. As Babscoole said, Beyond Base Building enables scaling and gBase Boundaries expands the limits down and up.

[lime mesa]

What limits?

[hearty wasp]

Scale limits

[vale iron]

How big and small you can scale

[plucky crescent]

im using faster refiners and better rewards and tech overload limit remover mods which i had to disable till the mod updates up would those mods be enough to corrupt my save if i try play while i have the mods disabled?

[vale iron]

If disabled they won't do anything

[hearty wasp]

Saves don't really get corrupted

[vale iron]

And mods have like a 0.00001% chance of corrupting a save

Save editing is much more likely to screw things up

[lime mesa]

does this mod currently work https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062

it looks so cool

i feel like it should be a part of the base game

[fresh arch]

See the PSA in pinned messages

[lime mesa]

thanks

[vale iron]

It will get updated with other mods, just check back in a couple of days or a week

[timber basin]

Hey there, I was told I needed to come bother you. I intend to get the steam version of the game (better linux integration) but would kinda like to get my saves from the gog version. Any idea how I could do that ?

[steel crypt]

better linux integration 🤔

[timber basin]

like working multiplayer xD
Seems I need gog galaxy to enable it and it's... kind of a pain

[timber basin]

Ok, tried getting the saves from the gog cloud to apply them in the steam folder. Worked like a charm !

[ocean prairie]

I assume save editor atm is not working? Or it works for some stuff? I dont want to ruin my save game

[quasi garden]

sadly no. im waiting for them to be updated as i want the new armor

[ocean prairie]

You dont like to do expeditions either?

[quasi garden]

nope

[cinder valley]

Can confirm my Cave Overhaul still works!

Can't wait for MBIN Compiler. Got some things we will be improving.

[ocean prairie]

They feel like i chore most of the time, kind of like "forcing" me to do stuff i dont want to do

[meager oasis]

hello everyone

[limpid dust]

Mmm boy Goatfungus is going to need to be updated for the new update / expedition

[marsh eagle]

Just use NomNom saveeditor

Its more advanced anyway

[limpid dust]

is it updated yet

and if i used Goatfungus before is it still compatible

[vale iron]

You can use either or, when updated. Neither one is updated I'm sure, but some parts might work. I'd advise waiting though

[marsh eagle]

Yes NomNom already works

[limpid dust]

Hm. Hopefully the save editors get updated when the Liquidator expedition releases, I can't attend expeditions (rl is too hectic) but the insect cosmetics and new mech look awesome.

[solid hawk]

Partially works. Will still need to be updated for new items in the game though

[fallow meadow]

Twitch Drops - Updated to include Season 9

[quasi garden]

this is all im waiting for

i want the new armor

[solid hawk]

Will probasbly have to give it a few days to over a week. Neither Zencq with NomNom nor Brandon with NMSSE are able to drop everything to do updates, so can take a little bit for either of them to get the free time from IRL. Patience.

[quasi garden]

i know :)

[trim bough]

Amumss failed to compile one of my mods

[ATTENTION] Failed scripts report:

• PerfectUpgradeModules.lua: Failed to decompile some/all files in MODBUILDER\MOD

  2 [ERROR] detected
  ERRORS will NOT produce MBIN files and a complete PAK file may not have been created.
  You need to correct the error first!

  3 [WARNING] raised
  WARNINGS may produce good or bad PAK files. You have to be the judge!

  1 [NOTICE] raised
  NOTICES produce good PAK files but alert you to something.

[steel crypt]

Read pins

[toxic barn]

ah, just wanted to ask the same thing

[trim bough]

so i have to wait for the author to update the lua?

the lua hasnt been updated for awhile

[steel crypt]

You need a new compiler.
LUA may need work. It varies.

[trim bough]

so amumss which is the standard compiler for NMS is out of date?

[steel crypt]

AMUMSS is not a compiler.

mbincompiler is.

AMUMSS is a scripting kit.

For creating exml files.

mbincompiler uses exml to create mbin files which are pak(ed)

[vale iron]

MBINCompiler will be updated in the coming days (hopefully), at which point, AMUMSS will probably work normally. Some Luas will need to be updated to work properly with the new files, but some will work fine

[toxic barn]

do we need to wait the AMUMSS files to also be updated, or AMUMSS will automatically download MBINCompiler once it gets updated?

[steel crypt]

99% sure AMUMSS will download new compiler when it's posted.

[solid hawk]

Yes, AMUMSS does a check for new version of MBINCompiler when buildmod.bat is run

[trim bough]

if you run the .bat file, it'll just download it?

[solid hawk]

Will download if a new version is found

[trim bough]

i want my perfect stats back. >_<

[solid hawk]

Yes, when there is a new version of MBINCompiler

[toxic barn]

Thanks for the answer!

[solid hawk]

No mods are working right now and mod authors can't update either. We're all waiting on the tooling to be updated. Just have to be patient.

[trim bough]

only my ship visual mods and noplanetlag mods work

[vale iron]

Did you rebuild the noplanetlag? An old one will screw up a bunch of stuff, if it works at all

I know it's just a compression thing, just want to make sure you updated it

[trim bough]

Game booted up fine when I took off the non visual mods mods

Wasn’t getting the error pop up but I didn’t load the save

[solid hawk]

Most mods will not work until updated. Main exception being .DDS TEXTURE only mods, which will be fine. nolagplanet is just a re-pak of applicable game files, so when updated, using the DIY version on NexusdMods, will be fine too.

Everything else, MBIN file based, will need to wait on updated MBINCompiler for.

[coral gale]

does this include Exosolar's Statos,Expanse,Abyss graphics mods? these the main mods I use, and Beyond Base Building so I can use planetside base parts on Freighters

[fresh arch]

If the mod description mentions any MBIN files changed, then it's broken

If the mod description mentions only DDS files changed, then at least it will not crash the game

I can't say "it will work properly" given the massive scope of changes to the game, maybe the old textures aren't used anymore

[coral gale]

-# METADATA\SIMULATION\SOLARSYSTEM\WEATHER\SKYSETTINGS\SPACESKYCOLORS.MBIN
yea, I guess I wait,

I also use the Better Colorful Rings mod

[spiral turret]

pperrrchaance.... is there a mod that increases ur graphics so it actually looks like how it looks in the trailer

[fresh arch]

Currently next to no mods are available, see PSA in pinned messages

[coral gale]

do you have a gpu capable of running with all the graphics settings maxed, and all the enhanced options like ray-tracing n stuff enabled?

[sage mortar]

Hello,

Babscoole and FriendlyFire is there maybe a new version for the actual new season ?
That would be great.

Thanks a lot

Greetings

[coral gale]

I like pulse jumping n such, reminds me of StarTrek Warp Speed, too bad we cant go so fast we go Plaid (ludicrous speed! go!)

[fresh arch]

No and there will not be for some time

Because HG changed the game files format and we need the tools to be reworked for these changes

[sage mortar]

oh, ok thats sad. thanks for the fast response friendlyfire /thumbsup

[hardy aurora]

@coral gale

No gifs in this channel please

[coral gale]

when warping to new system, change looks to make it ludicrous speed from Spaceballs The Movie

[brazen nymph]

great idea, please add this

[trim bough]

Or just get rid of the warp loading screen. Ships in Star Wars warps faster than ships in no man’s sky

[fresh arch]

Can't be done with modding

[wraith osprey]

wondering if there's a mod or something that removes the red vignette when taking damage, or at least hides it in photo mode so screenshots dont always have these red corners when i take damage, like in the image

anyone know if there's anything to solve that?

[vale iron]

Nothing right now, as almost all mods are broken. I don't know of one that did this, but it should be possible

Check back in a week when modders have been able to update their mods and might be able to look at making new stuff

[wraith osprey]

there is an ancient one for atlas rises but im more than certain that mod is well past its expiry date :P

well if any modders out here are willing, i'd be mega thankful if someone could make a mod that solves this lil issue

[vale iron]

I can look into it later, but with the update, can't do any mod work, and I'm on a roadtrip for about 3 more weeks

I have some downtime soon where I'll be in the same city for multiple days

[wraith osprey]

👍

[signal agate]

its been a while since I played so just to remember, the way to mod the game to remove the lag between leaving and entering planets, you had to use the PSArcTool on NMSARC.meshmisck.pak and then put the model folder and files into the model folder of the game

but one thing i'm not sure, do you need to remove the nmsarc.meshmisc.pak file from the pcbanks from the game?

[solid hawk]

You leave the original .pak file, but just use this, it's simpler: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2812

[signal agate]

that's literally what I did

just manually using the pasarctool

which takes like 20 sec

I actually removed it from the gamefiles and it run fine so maybe it doesn't matter if it's there or not

[solid hawk]

It's using the uncompressed .pak you put into your MODS folder. When HG puts out a hotfix that recreates DISABLEMODS.TXT or if you remove the .pak from MODS, the game will then blow up because necessary files are missing from PCBANKS.

Run a game file verification check and the vanilla .pak will be recreated (will also recreate DISABLEMODS.TXT)

[trim bough]

So what did they change exactly about the .Mbin format?

[solid hawk]

Whatever they wanted to

Removed data from and rearranged header data

Not unusual for them to do so. Last did this for NMS 4.65

[polar nest]

hi are there anyway i can get items from Expedition 12 now

i wanted the ward from that events

but i missed it due to i have to take my a level exams

[solid hawk]

Just takes longer for the modding community to adjust, when this happens, as tooling has to be updated for the changes.

[solid hawk]

Only thing that might be working now is NomNom save editor

[polar nest]

wats that

[solid hawk]

It's a save editor called NomNom

Google it, link will come up

[polar nest]

are there any video i can watch to know how to use this

[solid hawk]

No clue, check the NomNom site on Github or the NomNom Discord server

[polar nest]

there is two versions

one from nexus and from github

[solid hawk]

They should be the same version, else, use whichever is newer

Has not been officially updated for NMS 5.0 yet (nothing has), so may or may not work for this at the moment. If not, may have to wait a few days to a few weeks for things to be updated for the new NMS version.

[polar nest]

many thx 🙏

[solid hawk]

Here's the NomNom Discord, where the developer hangs out, to answer any specific questions you may have: https://discord.gg/nomnom-762409407488720918

[polar nest]

thx thx

[solid hawk]

FYI, way back when, this vignette was 100% shader

So, basically out of reach

[trim bough]

I noticed that nom nom is kinda iffy on expedition rewards

Iirc when I checked, it didn’t list atlas staff

[solid hawk]

Maybe. Best to bring that up on the NomNom Discord I linked a few messages above. The developer hangs there, not here

[trim bough]

So it’s only one person who works on mbincompiler?

[solid hawk]

You were asking about NomNom. Do you mean NomNom or MBINCompiler? Two different things.

The MBINCompiler team is comprised of 5 people

A lead developer and 4 others

NomNom has one dev.

NMSSE (goatfungus save editor) is also only one dev.

So, yeah, takes time to get these tools updated, when HelloGames makes changes which break them.

As the people who work on these "modding" community tools, have IRL work, sleep, family obligations to attend to as well. Just have to be patient. Might take a few hours, days, or even weeks, but they all always get updated as soon as possible.

[polar nest]

when u use NOM NOM

can u redeem the expediton rewards

cuz i cant redeem it from the quicksliver place

[quasi garden]

If some one posted the item IDS then you could manually edit it in the JSON

[solid hawk]

I think @fallow meadow might have a chart with all the Expedition reward IDs, but having trouble finding it

[stiff drum]

was gonna ask the same question but specifically about the vulture.

someone on reddit said they were gifted the ship parts in the anomaly so they are available.

at least those, not sure about the appareal , like the robot faces, missed those aswell

[zinc musk]

Can someone gift me a star born runner or iron vulture if I’m on ps5?

I will sing you a folk song as payment

[stiff drum]

i think they can gift you the parts of the vulture, not sure about the other one

[zinc musk]

Ah, gotcha, hopefully they bring back some old expeditions again at some point

[fresh arch]

Starships can't be traded as items

Iron Vulture parts for assembly can be traded since these are regular items

Get these and assemble the ship at any regulated space station

[zinc musk]

Ah, wasn’t sure if the starboard runner had parts or not like the iron vulture, thanks!

[fresh arch]

Nope, no other exped ship has parts like that, only the Vulture

And if you're looking for other ships, try using service bot to get them delivered

https://nomansapp.com/?service=shipdelivery&type=StarbornRunner&seed=0x1

[stiff drum]

does the bot also trade the vulture parts ?

[trim bough]

Idk but I would just wait til mods are good again and get the unlock expedition rewards mod and the consumerism mod too

I just wish I could max out my technology upgrade modules through save editing so I don’t gotta rely on a mod or worse, wait patiently on mod support cause update broke everything

[solid hawk]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2996

Also, each "christmas" season, HelloGames officially replays all of the Expeditions from that year.

[cinder valley]

all old mods dont work now?

[fresh arch]

99% of them

See PSA in pinned messages

[cinder valley]

yeah, im going to have to update my mods i created when mBin gets updated.

[solid hawk]

That's all of us.

[heady crane]

If I have a expedition save file do I need a mod to play it and get the rewards?

I didn't finish my expedition

[scarlet mason]

is there a good way to transfer a save from game pass to steam ? both on pc

[candid salmon]

After the update, the save point in my settlement is gone, but when I tried to build a new one, it would tell me it's limited to 1 per local area. Since I can't find it, i can't (re)move it, so i need to edit it out somehow. Is it possible with the save editor to "just" delete it? and if so, how would I do that?

[silk onyx]

was wondering if any mods broken with the new update

nevermind read the pin

thanks

[vale iron]

You'll want to look in persistentplayerbases in the raw JSON

Basebuildingobjects I believe

[candid salmon]

will try, ty

[fierce condor]

anyone know what the difference between mf_save and save is

reason I was asking is because for some reason my save editor isnt detecting my files or something???

[fierce condor]

its never had this issue but I deleted some of my saves in game and now its not working

[vale iron]

MF I believe is some extra data that goes with the main save. The numbers indicate auto or manual. Something like odd are auto and even are manual, or vice versa

[fierce condor]

oh ok

ohhh I know why it's because its not updated to worlds part 1

[silk onyx]

was wondering if more words mod and gcreature giants mod will work or considered broken

[rancid wasp]

Are there any mods that make the PC version of the game a little more pc-like when it comes to interface and menus?

[hearty wasp]

no

[hearty wasp]

everything not just textures is broke

read pin

[drowsy basin]

Pin read, comment deleted.

[solid hawk]

They're all broken. Will be a few days

[solid hawk]

Almost all mods broken atm. Will be for a few more days. Mod making tooling has to be updated for NMS 5.0 before mods can be fixed.

[steel crypt]

Hey guys, are there mods that make the game better?

[toxic barn]

better in what aspect

if the aspects mean QoL, i think NoLagLeavingPlanet is one of best and also must have mod

[solid hawk]

You deserve a cartoon swearing at, for that. #$%^(_&#@!^%&)_+

Alternately....

Any mod with the word "better" in the name, obviously

[solid hawk]

That's the author of the DUDs mods. He's just being silly

[rancid wasp]

Hi folks, I'm desperate for a better camera mod and I found one, but it hasn't been updated for the patch and crashes the game after a few seconds. Terrible because for those few seconds I can actually SEE where I'm going. The mod is tiny, just 6kb so can't be changing too much. Would anyone here be smart enough to fix it?

[hard zealot]

Does anyone know if NomNom triggers anti-cheat software in other games, such as Warframe?

iirc some anti-cheats hate it when a program is simply just installed

[steel crypt]

Read pins

[toxic barn]

ah my bad, I thought he genuinely ask for mods suggestion lmao

[hard zealot]

any answers on this would be very helpful. I'm switching from PS5 to PC but cant transfer my save. Was gonna use a save editor but its not worth it if it jeapardizes my other games.

[steel crypt]

I don’t know if it does with other games. They are both made specifically for NMS though.
You could use the editor and then delete it I guess to make sure.
I have never seen anyone mention a problem with other games.

[hard zealot]

Deleted it but I did open it once.
Figured I should wait a lil bit anyways since the game just updated. All I can do now I guess is open another game to be sure

[steel crypt]

IMO it would be weird for something like Warframe to tag a save editor that’s specifically for NMS. I guess it’s possible, but would be very stupid.

[solid hawk]

Doesn't trigger anything in NMS, you're good to use it

[solid hawk]

Especially when it's not in the Warframe directory. If some game is able to scan everything on your hard drive, that's a MASSIVE security risk and you need to get rid of that game immediately.

[hard zealot]

Sorry that's not what I meant, I've already looked into if save editors trigger NMS. I mean if it triggers anti-cheat for other games

[lime mesa]

can anyone update a mod for me?

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/234

[steel crypt]

Read the pins

[lime mesa]

ah okay i forgot, i don't know if this author will ever update this mod

its just a hud though

[solid hawk]

Nope, we ALL have to go without mods. Waiting for MBINCompiler to be updated. It WILL be several more days

[lime mesa]

yeah and that if PART 2 doesn't come earlier

[solid hawk]

I just looked at the specific one you linked. NMS doesn't really work like that. Old mods are usually dead and abandoned for a reason. Dues to changes in file structure they are no longer viable.

[lime mesa]

oh i see thats why it never updated

[solid hawk]

Can't use or update mods from the early years.

[lime mesa]

i really miss that though

wish i could make a mod like that

[solid hawk]

The files are just too vastly different to how they are now

[lime mesa]

yeah that make sense

[solid hawk]

It'd be possible to recreate, starting from scratch, with current files, would just be difficult and very time consuming. The UI files are something of a hit mess with NMS. Things aren't labelled well, if at all, lots of repetition within the files, and no means of viewing what changes would look like out side of the game. So, lots of trial and error, loading up the game and checking on results after every little change.

[lime mesa]

Could still try

[solid hawk]

I've one UI mod. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1093 . The custom color panels took me a STUPID number of hours to get placed and sized correctly.

lol

[lime mesa]

I wanna try to make HUD mods for No Man's Sky but its going to be a lot of work

[solid hawk]

But that's why you don't see too many UI mods for NMS

It will, but can also be rewarding. Can't really start until we get the new MBINCompiler though. We're all awaiting that.

Brings all NMS mod endeavors to a standstill

[lime mesa]

alright

Will wait until then

[plain oyster]

Anyone got a list of NMS icons? Trying to get the Flora icon

[lime mesa]

What reshade do u guys recommend for NMS

[solid hawk]

Closest I know of

Can open in a text editor

[hearty wasp]

Sean

[hearty wasp]

we don't really use reshade here so just go on Nexus and see what's there

[sleek summit]

anyone know if the save editor is updated to the new worlds update?

[lusty orbit]

hey, if I try to use a mod that adds FSR frame gen to the game will I get banned?

[fresh arch]

No but I dont think such a mod exists

[marsh eagle]

FSR is part of vanilla nms options

In Anti Aliasing

[lusty orbit]

frame generation isnt included

just upscaling

[marsh eagle]

Ah true just FSR

AMD fluid motion should work ?

[lusty orbit]

its shit lol

[hearty wasp]

No

[hearty wasp]

You won't get banned for basically anything

[silk onyx]

wait theres a part two?

[fresh arch]

with even more to come later in the summer

[silk onyx]

oic so we will have to wait again after part two sounds exciting🤔

[obsidian tree]

https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/releases/tag/v5.01.0-pre1
MBINCompiler is updated!
It's not complete, but it's... let's say "Part 1" to fit with the theme 😅

[trim bough]

nice now we can all get back to business.

[solid hawk]

Not really. Some of the most commonly modded files still aren't working, but will be fixed in next build.

Like, REWARDTABLE, which is used in about 50% of mods, is still broken.

We'll get there though

[trim bough]

Next build?

When is the next build

[hearty wasp]

When it's done

That "get back in business" statement is more like the Victorian Factory Manager kind

[trim bough]

I thought every thing was complete

[fallow meadow]

Updated: Expedition Rewards - 5.0 (Worlds)

Quicksilver Shop Items
updated: July 19th, 2024
(in-game version Public: 126243 - Worlds 5.0)
Note: There is no shop 90 tier 1 for some reason.

[fallow meadow]

I did have them, but wanted to verify with MBINC.
Do however note that NMSSE is currently non-functional and NomNom requires updating before changes to the Account Data will stick

[fresh arch]

I have a theory for the shop 90 thingy

[fallow meadow]

(me too) 🤪

[fresh arch]

I reckon HG will have us do community research milestones to unlock new parts for the mech

And since there are 4 pieces for mech, 4 tiers are enough

Yeah I know there's the camera / scanner module as well but I dont think it's of importance for a combat focused mech and expedition

[fallow meadow]

Tier 1, get the mech, only then will parts be useful with following tiers, right?!

[fresh arch]

Could be

[fallow meadow]

I do have yet to verify with todays update though

[fresh arch]

Wasnt changed

>>> Files with different HASH: 7 {
GCGAMEPLAYGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN
GCTERRAINGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN
METADATA/REALITY/CATALOGUECRAFTING.MBIN
METADATA/REALITY/CATALOGUEMATERIALS.MBIN
METADATA/REALITY/TABLES/NMS_REALITY_GCSUBSTANCETABLE.MBIN
METADATA/REALITY/TABLES/NMS_REALITY_GCTECHNOLOGYTABLE.MBIN
PIPELINES/PIPELINEWATERREFLECTION.BIN
}

[fallow meadow]

Ah yes, I could have used that to verify changes

(oh well, doesn't hurt to unpack to latest)

[solid hawk]

Nope. Some of the most commonly modded files are still not working. It'll get there.

[cinder valley]

Updated
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2527

[steel grail]

do mods work in mp?
(if someone joins my session, will they bombarbed by meteors as well?)

[cinder valley]

no. mods only work on your system and those who have it installed

[steel grail]

ic, i take it people won't be able to join if they lack the mods

[vale iron]

Some mods will do weird stuff in multiplayer and affect other non-modded people, depending on whom the host is

If meteor location is synced from the host and the modded person is the host, then the non-modded person will get the meteors

[cinder valley]

This has also been updated. More coming soon. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1681

[wintry venture]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1868

Does this still work?

Companion Pet Unlocker

[fresh arch]

If it wasn't updated within last few hours, then no

See the PSA in pinned messages

[solid hawk]

I'll get it updated, as soon as I can

From the modding perspective, this update is a bit of a poop-show. lol

[wintry venture]

its okay ❤️

np

take your time

is it hard to update mods with the new update?

[solid hawk]

Well, some major changes under the hood, which broke the tool we use to decompile and compile the game files. We've now a partial fix version, so some mods can be updated, but not others...

Like I just tried to update Companion pet and getting a couple dozen of these:

[wintry venture]

oh thats not so good 😦

[solid hawk]

This is a brand new data field that didn't exist before.

[wintry venture]

Yes it's also something like they have taken technology from the new game to no man's sky, so maybe that's why it has ruined mods so much

[solid hawk]

What the above is saying is the data is too long, so I'm going to make is smaller to fix the assigned max size limit for the field, 0x0. Well, the populated data is from the vanilla file and 0x0 means no data allowed, so yeah a problem. lol

It'll be a quick fix in MBINCompiler of setting the max size limit for that field to 0x4F, but until that happens, can't update Companion Pet.

[ocean prairie]

Is this mod working? If not and if its easy to update it, would somebody be so kind to send it to me? I am tired of seeing Minecraft frigates

[hearty wasp]

what is "this mod"

and 99% of mods are broken

happens every update

[trim bough]

i did my mods up

so i removed my ship visual mods but i dont have a ship trail anymore

is that normal

[hearty wasp]

if you yeet all your other mods and it come back then it isn't

[trim bough]

i recompiled my important mods for the new update

and they seem to work

[hearty wasp]

compiler's a bit fucked atm so the "updated" mods may be fucked also

if you're ok with living with it then feel free to but won't hurt to try yeeting everything

[trim bough]

would having loaded the visual mods on the update have affected my game?

[hearty wasp]

if you yeet them and it returns to normal, then yes

[trim bough]

i yeeted them yes

and kept all my other important mods

[hearty wasp]

cool

those may effect your game as well

again it's down to you to decide if you like living with it

[trim bough]

oh wait i didnt remove one of them

the trail is back

[cinder valley]

READY TO USE ON WORLDS PART 1 https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2528

[ocean prairie]

Its this one https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2866?tab=posts

Makes them look from blocky minecraft ships or actual space ships

[trim bough]

So my settlement timer mod doesn’t work sadge

Now gotta wait 50m

That auto scanner mod I had used a ton mbins that are broken.

[ocean prairie]

So guys, can this frigate lod fix be done? i love seeing all my ships from the ground

[solid hawk]

You can do it yourself. Comes with an Lua script. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626

[ocean prairie]

I have tried it once in the past and i botched another mod, thats why i am asking here 🥲

[hearty wasp]

then you should wait for it to be updated

wait a week

[ocean prairie]

Yeah i asked the mod author kindly if he can update the mod

[hearty wasp]

if you find any other mod that's broken it's best to not do that and just wait for this update in particular

if you comment on all of lo2k's mods then he'd have around 100 new comments

every active modder knows everything's broken

[solid hawk]

This one is lMonk. He'll get to it when possible.

[trim bough]

So if the compiler can’t compile the mod right now, it’s lua issue and the author has to update it?

[hearty wasp]

it can be either or both

[trim bough]

Or just the compiler team has to release a new build?

Bab was saying that a lot common mbins need work or something

[ocean prairie]

Ye monk

[hearty wasp]

like I said #nms-modding message

it depends on each lua

[rocky hearth]

So I own nms on steam and through the Xbox app on my pc. Is it possible to port over the save data on the game from Xbox(the pc app) to the steam version? to be extra clear I own 2 versions of nms and have 2 different nms apps on my pc.

[vale iron]

It's possible, but a pain in the ass until Microsoft pushes the Worlds update

[shy grove]

@toxic barn Sorry for one of our overzealous spam filters. Can you try reposting your NMS mod link again?

[toxic barn]

yup, here it is
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3095

[shy grove]

And you were saying that's your first mod? 😁 That's wonderful!

[toxic barn]

yup, try to change something to enhance my experience and decide to share with others lol, thank you!

[hearty wasp]

HI, WINDERTP HERE FOR CONSUMERISM™️ 1.1.15

DO YOU ENVY A FUTURE YOU WHO IS LESS TIRED, MORE HAPPY, AND MORE ROCKING THE LATEST FASHION IN PURSUIT OF SELF-VALIDATION?

DO YOU WANT TO ACT LIKE YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR DEMOCRACY, BUT ARE TOO COWARDLY TO ACTUALLY BRUTALLY MURDER ANY INNOCENT INSECT?

ARE YOU A PERSON WHO JUST CANNOT WAIT FOR A PERSON TO JUST GIVE YOU THE REWARDS YOU DEFINITELY DESERVE BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT A GAME 8 YEARS AGO?

WELL, JUST BUY, BUY, BUY YOUR WAY TO FULFILMENT (and new expedition/twitch rewards) WITH CONSUMERISM
YOU CAN EVEN GET THE CHANCE TO WEAR BUGS, ABSOLUTELY FREE

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062

[rocky hearth]

So how do you do it?

[vale iron]

roll back your steam version, convert with save editor, then upgrade steam version

[hasty vale]

Considering how well the "No lag in space" mod works due to the lack of decompression, is it worth just... decompressing the entire thing at the expense of disk space? Seems like it'd get rid of a bunch of the hitches and hiccups

[half arch]

yea i think there's some guide around on how to unpack the whole game.
It should help quite a bit with some asset loading

[ocean prairie]

I agree 100% i always use that mod

@hasty vale this one right. "No Lag Leaving Planets (DIY Edition)" ?

[obsidian granite]

do any save editors work with the latest update yet?

[fallow meadow]

Just make sure to check when it was last updated. If not updated the last couple of days, it will most likely not work

NMSSE does not work. NomNom only appears to work with the regular save data, not the Account

[obsidian granite]

whats the difference?

[fallow meadow]

NMSSE (goatfungus) is Java based, while NomNom (zencq) is C# and requires .Net 6

Or did you mean the difference between regular save data and account data?

[obsidian granite]

i downloaded nomnom, but theres no exe?

[fallow meadow]

There should be, after extracting the archive

[obsidian granite]

https://github.com/zencq/NomNom

?

is that right?

[fallow meadow]

Yes

For current latest release: https://github.com/zencq/NomNom/releases/tag/4.70.2.41-beta.11

[obsidian granite]

ah

thanks

[fallow meadow]

And antivirus may consider it suspicious

[obsidian granite]

do u know where the save files are located?

[fallow meadow]

!faq-savefiles

[hardy aurora]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

Mac
/Users/<yourname>/Library/Application Support/HelloGames/NMS/st_<your steam ID>/

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[obsidian granite]

well that crashed it

should i open it with nms closed?

[fallow meadow]

At least not beyond the main menu

I recommend closing the game though, just to be sure changes stick and update properly. Different platforms handle things differently

[obsidian granite]

does it work in realtime or do i have to restart everytime?

[fallow meadow]

You have to restart after changes are saved. You can not make live edits

[obsidian granite]

do i have to save the changes?

nvm

[fallow meadow]

Yes

For save editor specific questions, you can also check their Discord (linked on main page)

[obsidian granite]

thanks

do u know what the difference is between the home seed and model seed of the freighter?

[fallow meadow]

@obsidian granite One is the model, the other the colours/crew

Also, for changing the type of freighter, you will have to change the path reference. However, in your case, both the Sentinel and Venator capital freighters use the same proc.scene, so only requires adjusting the model seed until you get one you like

[obsidian granite]

why is there nothing here?

i only changed the freighter data?

is it abandoned?

ah i see, i didnt go in the doors

[cerulean cipher]

So I'm back in expedition 1 and I'm wondering if the data I used was missing something because I can't install my life support so I keep dying😂

[fallow meadow]

Might have seen changes since? That is the biggest concern with running previous expeditions (unsupported), where stuff can get outdated and no longer works as expected

[cerulean cipher]

Yeah that's fair.. I just didn't know if I was stupid or something had changed.

[fallow meadow]

You could try fix it with a save editor perhaps?

[cerulean cipher]

I'm not on pc enough for that😅😂

As in I have no idea what I'm doing^^

[fallow meadow]

Might want to at least report it to the creator of those expeditions

[cerulean cipher]

That's fair... I might also try to download something different? I want to go back and get all the rewards I missed😂

[fallow meadow]

I understand and in my opinion the best way by actually playing them again. To just get the rewards without playing, currently your best bet would be using the below mod, as the only functional save editor NomNom has issues with the Account file.
#nms-modding message

[cerulean cipher]

Thanks! It might just be easier!

Dumb question... how do I put my season data back to normal?😂

[fallow meadow]

Especially now, as this new update pretty much broke almost everything custom made. So check for anything updated to assume it working

[fallow meadow]

I guess it provided a json file that was required to copy to the cache folder where the saves live?

[cerulean cipher]

Yeah exactly

[fallow meadow]

I can only guess, as I am not sure what you used. Removing that file may work? Or somehow check if you can make it trigger 'expired'. You might have been playing offline, so going online could trigger this. In other cases it may require altering the end time/date in said file. I am not quite sure ... check with the creator or provide me with further details

[cerulean cipher]

I just turned steam on offline, I wasn't sure if it was as simple as reconnecting or more complicated

[hasty vale]

Yup yup!

[fallow meadow]

I bet reconnecting will trigger it expired and correct the json to what it should have been.
A lot has changed since Expedition 1, and I am not sure if you even have the option to just switch back to regular game through the menu or anomaly terminal.

[cerulean cipher]

Loading it up now with the mod... thank you for the help!!

[fallow meadow]

You're welcome

[edgy junco]

hi is there a way to unlock expeditions rewards without mods?

[fresh arch]

Save editors, service bot, custom JSON files to replay expeds

Those are alternatives

[edgy junco]

whats a good save editor

[scenic mango]

does anyone know of an auto-sort auto-stack mod? Just something that puts like-items together like raw materials/refined materials/comodities, etc?

[fresh arch]

No such mod exists

And it probably won't unless we have some magical breakthrough

[scenic mango]

oh

[fresh arch]

Mods can't add new functionality to the game

[scenic mango]

breakthrough?

hrm

[fresh arch]

Only tweak existing game mechanics by editing their properties

[scenic mango]

oh

[fresh arch]

Well there are 2 main SEs out there, links in pinned messages

But I can't tell whether any one was updated

[solid hawk]

Neither have been updated yet. NomNom partially works

[shrewd nebula]

does anyone know if it is possible to obtain a 3d model of the pirate dreadnought freighter, i want to 3d print one and put it on my desk

[fallow meadow]

certainly possible. I suggest you go pay the NMS Modding discord a visit. Look for a tool called NMSDK to be used with Blender. There is also another model viewer which may do the trick. I am sure someone will be able to point you in the right direction over there

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[cinder valley]

Thinking of making a mod to increase possibility of floating islands

[fallow meadow]

Took me quite a while finding one. I am sure others would appreciate increased odds. However, it would be a change that only works client side of course. Not everyone uses such mods.

[cinder valley]

I've been looking for 3 days lol

[fallow meadow]

ouch

[leaden sequoia]

look in base building sometimes people post glyphs for flying islands:

[vale iron]

Check how I do buildings in gLonely. I think it might be similar. If you give up, let me know, as I was thinking of doing this, too, but don't want to step on any toes.

Second guess would be to look into the volcanic biome for volcano placement parameters

[hasty vale]

One of my bases is on one if you want to check one out

Are there any common mods that increase CPU/GPU load? E.g. Increase draw distance, consume 10x more memory (GPU and/or RAM), reduce pop-in, increase spawn distance?

As in, "I've got cycles, memory, and VRAM to spare" kind of mods

[tranquil glade]

Is there a mod that lets you check the galaxy map while on foot?

[jagged blade]

Is there a mod that brings back the colorful nights like this? Patch notes said they got rid of blue night time ambient lighting but its still blue on every planet for me.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/hwyb51/remember_when_we_used_to_have_more_varied_night/

[pure mulch]

New Version of GoatFungus Save editor been released

[solid hawk]

Yes, meta-mod, once it can be updated for NMS 5.0, in the coming days.

[solid hawk]

Yes, exosolar stratos. Will be updated in coming days, as soon as we get a 100% functional MBINCompiler.

[jagged blade]

@solid hawk awesome thanks

[wintry venture]

what is this mod with carbon logo called

[junior hatch]

now that mods are slowly filtering through the nexusmods site - just want to know if the better nms compilation will also be worked on once the other mods are ready - or if it was a one time thing?

seeing the mod lists the mods inside it, im happy to collect them independently - just wondering is all (and i know its only been like a day, not trying to be pushy or anything, just planning my next moves is all)

[hearty wasp]

It prolly'll get updated

[junior hatch]

im hoping so - just not sure seeing its a compilation

[heavy merlin]

This has been answered elsewhere

[vale iron]

It will get updated, just can't be yet

When I have time, I'll be reworking it into parts and maybe using the collection system

[junior hatch]

yeah i get other mods need to be updated first, then irl time

again, just wanted to know if it was ... "active' or something - good to know

i look forward to it!

[shrewd nebula]

anyone know how to fix this?

[solid hawk]

Update with a working version of libMBIN (which is NOT out yet, still being worked on)

[shrewd nebula]

so i can't fix it?

[hearty wasp]

you cannot

[junior hatch]

does that mean amuss is not working too? oesnt it need mbinfor compiling and decompiling luas and paks? (that was the only way i got my mods to work - had to break everything down to luas and then merge into one pak)

[solid hawk]

Correct, AMUMSS uses MBINCompiler. Some mods will compile fine, while others will not.

New fixed version is currently in the works and will be released soon

[wintry venture]

Anyone know if their is a mod like this, that just do the so theire is and increase in fauna/creatures, so its not always between 7-13 https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2399

[solid hawk]

There is not

[wintry venture]

okay ❤️

[solid hawk]

The max cap is hardcoded

[wintry venture]

Oh so its not possible to edit?

[solid hawk]

Correct

Doesn't exist in the game files, which is what NMS modding can change. It's hardcoded in a function in the exe.

[wintry venture]

Why have they done that? 😄

[solid hawk]

BTW, there are worlds with more than 13 species, just VERY rare. I think the most I've ever seen was 18, but that was a few years ago.

[solid hawk]

Because...HelloGames. They do what they want to, when they want to, and do not explain themselves to the modding or player community.

We don't ask why, because there's no way to accurately answer. Only guesses and conjecture.

[wintry venture]

I hope they official come out with mod support one day. 👏

[junior hatch]

knowing about minecraft modpacking (on 2 laptops that couldnt run 1.10.2 vanilla and was locked to 1.7.10 until 1.16.4 was out) i know pams harvestcraft causes a lot of system resource lag due to world gen (especially when compared to birdsfoods which does the same thing but only introduces recipes so no world gen)

it may be that increasing the animals for every world may do something similar to pams as to world gen

though we're talking java and an actual game engine - so not exactly the same, but in terms of guessing and conjecture, seems logical that the more the game has the more system resources it needs

[solid hawk]

Actually number of species on a planet is part of the planet seed, so pre-ordained, when seed is generated.

[crude stirrup]

Im currently in the save editor, where can I change the difficulty settings?

[solid hawk]

NomNom, on General tab

[crude stirrup]

hm, guess im in a different one 🙂

[solid hawk]

Don't think you can change it with Goatfungus. There's a ton of feature overlap between the two save editors, but they both also have a few things unique to each.

[junior hatch]

so following up from my minecraft experience, are there detriments to loading the game with and without mods repeatedly? (cause doing so on minecraft corrupted my save file)

note i havent done so yet with the game updates, but maybe once due to launching on laptop instead of pc

[trim bough]

Is there any other base building resize mod?

saw the author of the one i was using pre update set the mod to hidden.

[hearty wasp]

do I need to make a new sign that says "wait a week"

[solid hawk]

With NMS mods have zero direct access to saves or save data, only the game files.

So, any changes which would end up in a save would be filtered through the exe first, weeding out potential issues.

[junior hatch]

oh that sounds reassuring

so i can load up my main base and check the changes without worrying about corrupting my save

[solid hawk]

Has something initiated by a mod ended in save corruption. Yeah, it has happened, but extremely rare and normally only caused by doing this shouldn't be doing.

[solid hawk]

Yes, and since you're using a save editor, you have an extra level of protection.

You should have a backup folder in your save editor directory

Enabled, by default, with the GoatFungus editor

There's been more than once that I've messed up a save with the save editor where those backups came in handy

[solid hawk]

We are still waiting for a 100% compatible version of MBINCompiler. The one released two days ago is only partial. Still won't work with many commonlhy modded game files.

Save everyone a lot of time. If a mod has been updated in the past couple of days, give it a shot. May or may not work correctly though. If a mod has not been updated in the past couple of days, then assume it cannot be updated yet and wait patiently. 🙂

Also, zero point in asking when. Even the lead developer of MBINCompiler doesn't know that. He's finding problems and fixing them. When all the problems are found and fixed, we get the release.

[trim bough]

ya i was have some issues yesterday i cleared with my mods. they were working after compiling but i noticed my amumss didnt pull new compiler build

heard that its best if you fetch the compiler by running the .bat with no luas in the modscript

is it recommended to compile all my mods again as the compiler is updated over time?

[hot ember]

does anyone have a rough guesstimate of when planet generation mods tend to get updated for the current version of the game?
I understand if this is difficult to answer because as I've read, this time they rewrote planet generation entirely

repetitiveness in planets is my biggest dislike about the game

[solid hawk]

Generally there's one new MBINCompiler release per NMS release, as needed. This time around was unusualin that a partially fixed MBINCompiler was pushed out, with a fully compatible version on the way. So, that being said, yeah, you'd generally want to remake the .paks, as it would normally align with NMS updates which break mods until they're updated.

[solid hawk]

If you're asking specifically about Better Planet Generation, can take Woody weeks to months to get the mod updated. Larges mod for NMS, by orders of magnitude. Over 32,000 game files in that mod.

[hot ember]

yes that one, also DUD's is used a lot, no? from my limited knowledge on NMS modding

[solid hawk]

Currently, not entirely safe to update any mod for NMS 5.0x. We do not have a 100% compatible version of MBINCompiler to make\update the mod with. The one we do have is a bit of a janky beta release. Like other authors, I started pushing updates to NexusMods with current MBINCompiler release, but then started getting unexplainable problem reports, so decided to hold on further mod updating, until the compiler is fixed.

[solid hawk]

Yes DUD's. The author, Jason, normally it takes him around a week after an NMS release to get an update out. The delay in getting a fully functional MBINCompiler release may or may not factor into that time estimate.

In the hopes that we'll get that fixed MBINCompiler sometime today, I'd expect an update to Duds sometime between Tuesday and Friday

But can't guarentee that as Jason is also in an area experiencing severe weather recently. He just went a week without power. No power, no computer. No computer, no modding.

But, once we get the updated MBINCompiler, can self update the duds mod .paks with AMUMSS and the Lua scripts, while waiting for Jason to update the mod (you always want to grab his updates, as he does make changes and Lua updating is always behind when he updates the .paks)

[cinder valley]

Can confirm compiler issues. The size of my compiles didn't match with previous releases

[wild fern]

Is there a mod that makes the UI better?

[cinder valley]

has anyone made a pull request on Mbin? I can make one on Github, but what are other modders expieriencing?

[wintry venture]

48.000 right now is insane!

[ocean prairie]

Why are there soooo many mods that edit this file " GCGAMEPLAYGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN" cant mod authors make it so so it edits a different file, i cannot use 5 mods because of this

[hearty wasp]

no

just don't use the mods if you can't handle AMUMSS

[ocean prairie]

And also another questions, how come mod authors dont contact hello games so that they make it that that file: GCGAMEPLAYGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN doesnt affect that many modsm i get that its not their job but if i was a developer i would want to make it as easy as possible for modder to mod the game without many conflicts

[hearty wasp]

HG has no obligation to do anything

you are free to send your own letters

[hot ember]

thank you for info, I'll pin those mods so I can put them into the game as soon as they get updated
shoutout to all the mod creators for making various annoying parts of the game a bit more bearable

[solid hawk]

HelloGames has an official we don't deal with mods AT ALL policy. They allow modding, that's the extent of it. You contact them about mods, they'll tell you to uninstall before they'll talk to you.

[sonic yoke]

Can someone safe edit one of the new vile insects into a pet for me? Would be really nice. If you do pls dm me.

[solid hawk]

No. Mod authors have zero control over where HelloGames puts the properties to achieve desired effects. Via modding cannot make new properties, ONLY edit the values of existing.

[ocean prairie]

Damn, but i understand, i wish they were mod friendly

[solid hawk]

They are, in so much as they allow it, but they have neither the manpower or time to deal with it themselves.

[sonic yoke]

Can someone safe edit a pet to be a new vile brood mother?

[round sinew]

@digital flax does game install folder\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS\DISABLEMODS.TXT exist?

[steel crypt]

Ahhh yes. You have a lot to learn little one.

[orchid wyvern]

Hi guys is there a tool that can update all of your mods for you the moment they become available or is the manual method the only way to go?

Also any mods up there that play with around with ground combat to give it a little more umpf?

[rugged stag]

hiii ive never modded but been wanting to, could someone help?

[hearty wasp]

You need to elaborate what you need help with

Or you're gonna end up with someone remote accessing your desktop and installing whatever they want for you one of these days

[rugged stag]

well i wanna get the starborn runner ship and someone told me the only way to get it rn is to get a save edit/modding/service bot

[hearty wasp]

Right the first and third thing are more suited for another server

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

Ask about how to get the ship w/ the service bot therr

[rugged stag]

ok ty!

[solid hawk]

Unless you get yourself an indentured servant, it's more of a manual process, when done correctly. Due to the way mods work in NMS, with conflicts between mods that make changes to the same game files, mod managers don't work well for the game.

[digital flax]

Anyone know a up to date mod that increases the over stack limit on refiners

[solid hawk]

There is none up to date yet. Give it a few days. New major NMS release just hit, so mods are getting updated.

[vale iron]

gstack is updated. I don't recall if it hits refiners, or if anything does

[digital flax]

Wanna make a mega stasis farm. Would be insanly easier if it wasnt so limited per refiner

[sacred apex]

are mods still broke?

[ember harbor]

someone gave me a weird as pet

im guessing they made it lol

[sullen solstice]

I had the game on my computer but through the Xbox app and had a lot of hours and ships into it, and just recently switched over to the steam version so that way I didn't have to wait for the updates.Is there a way that I could get some of my ships?Or saves over

[hearty wasp]

most, yes

[sacred apex]

ah

[solar dock]

There's this mod I wanna install, but it has a .lua in the zip file too. Do I include that in the mods folder with the .pak or no?

[toxic barn]

only .pak

.lua is needed if you want to merge with other mods, or if you want to tinker with the mod

[solar dock]

Noted, thanks. ^^

[solid hawk]

Or if you need to self-update the mod for a newer version of NMS

[abstract pebble]

Is there an up to date mod that greatly expands your inventory? Just started playing 18hrs ago.

[solid hawk]

There really aren't a huge number of up to date mods overall. We're still waiting on a 100% compatible build of MBINCompiler

That being said, probably the mod you're looking for is called slotmaster. Won't be updated until the tool is. Give it a few days.

[devout osprey]

Anyone use the "Better NMS" mod (collection of mods: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3056 )? I started using it in the last few weeks and love it, but I guess some of the mod in it are not compatible with the worlds release.

[devout osprey]

It's such a great mod collection! When I have some time, I'll download some of the individual mods and start testing which ones might be problematic. Hope the heroic modder(s) beat me to it! 😉

[solid hawk]

It will be updated. The issue right now is we only have a partially compatible version of MBINCompiler for NMS 5.0x. Won't work with some commonly modded files yet. The 100% working build is being worked on and should be ready in the coming days, soon.

This is also why you don't see many of the common mods updated for Worlds yet. We plain can't update them

[toxic barn]

what's the different between the partially compatible of MBINCompiler and the 100%? it's because the partially compatible is only for few paks?

[solid hawk]

Partial cannot currently compile\decompile many of the most heavily modded game files correctly. Biggest example of this is REWARDTABLE.

This isn't a matter of a few .paks. Large percentage of actively updated mods cannot be updated currently or can't be updated without severe risk of issues with the mod compiled files.

Basically the current release MBINCompiler is more of an Alpha build. Developer thought a partially working one was better than making everyone wait several days longer for the fully working build.

I don't agree with that premise, but I get it. My opinion we should have held off. With this janky build, I'm seeing mod authors, who aren't reading the fine print, push updates for mods with files that will not work correctly.

So be it. Should have the new build of MBINCompiler within a couple of days, then all will be well again and the wise\cautious mod authors, holding back, can update their mods.

[hot ember]

ah, so mod managers don't have the functionality to inform you when multiple mods modify the same file in this game for some reason, so you have no way of knowing which mod is crashing your game unless you go with binary method

makes adding mods by myself way more annoying

[orchid wyvern]

Question: i am relatively new to NMS i started playing a month or so ago, but i was aware of the game since release. I see that the game has mods but they seem to be limited compared to some other games like skyrim. My question is why don't the devs support mods better. Seems to me this game has potential to surpass skyrim if the devs invested some time in providing a proper mod support. I tried looking but could not find what is the Halo games official stance for mods if they ever stated one.

[winter badger]

maybe cuz theyre busy working on this and their other game all the time

[hot ember]

#nms-modding message

[winter badger]

this is #nms-modding lmao

[orchid wyvern]

The question is about modding or the developers stance on it ?

[hot ember]

and it's funny that you mention Skyrim because Bethesda's stance on modding is also something along the lines of "go ahead if you want to but we don't have the framework to offer support for it from within the company"

I was quoting you the message about HelloGames' stance on modding I saw here yesterday, was easier to simply refer to that

[orchid wyvern]

Yes but i am pretty sure Bethesda has released tools that help you mod.

[hot ember]

the Creation Kit, yes, that's about the only difference I can think of
my guess would be it doesn't really go well with how this game gets updates and events (expeditions) combined with the feature of multiplayer

the game gets major updates every what, 7 months? they always break at least some mods

[orchid wyvern]

Seems to me that would be an easy thing to take into account when designing those. Or just do something that vermintide does you have modded and unmodded realms. Mind you i am not criticizing anyone It just seems to be a shame and a missed opportunity.

[hot ember]

it surely does look very straightforward from an end user's point of view, you never know what's going on with the game in the dev studio

my opinion: A) the devs don't deem the game to be in a state stable enough to bother releasing modding tools for it B) it doesn't fit the vision they have for it (i.e. it would break the feature of thousands of people exploring a galaxy alone but together at the same time, if some players would have drastically game-changing mods)
as you can already run into issues with for example planet generation where (to my knowledge) when I'm not sure how it works if one player has a mod and another doesn't

[obsidian granite]

is there a mod that can make the sentinel ship not look broken on the inside?

[obsidian granite]

do just no mods work after the update?

[fresh arch]

Read PSA in pinned messages

[fresh arch]

You can't really compare the two. Bethesda has 7 titles that are reskins of the same codebase, they could not give a damn about people picking their secrets

NMS is the main title HG has to offer and they have a reason to keep the game's secret sauce to themselves

Also it would be a pain in the ass to provide support for modded game installs, much easier to outright deny it

[obsidian granite]

oh ok

[pure mulch]

Plus Bethesda get Modders to fix their games, and HG fix their own

[steel crypt]

I wouldn't go that far haha
Modders are constantly fixing NMS stuff.

There is no benefit to a dev to support mods other than longevity and some sales from it. When HG is still developing the game as they are, the sales come from that.
Supporting mods is a complete pain. Trust me, most modders understand this. Just go to a random ass mod page and look at the comments. I can just imagine what it's like at HG to read some of the "bug" reports. Just a dude dragging them to a recycle bin over and over again, rolling their eyes, and drinking their sorrows away.

FriendlyFire has a good point about the secret sauce too.
Ever since NMS, other devs have wanted and some tried lol to replicate the tech. Fail
If it was known, Bethesda would be the first to try to clone it. Not sure they could get it done, but they would try.
On second thought, nvm Bethesda isn't trying anything new lol.

[digital flax]

Seems like there is no mod even close up to date that is related to increasing the stacks inside refiners. Anyone able to give tips to create such a mod?