nms-modding

[obsidian tree]

mods like that are only starting to be possible recently with the advent of a few new tools which are being developed. None are what you would call "production ready" for purposes like this, but over time hopefully we'll start seeing more 🙂

like for example, the video I posted above of the planets moving is currently only possible on an old fractals build of the game due to technical reasons. It will be possible on newer versions, it just requires more work I haven't done yet 😅

[pseudo saddle]

How do you mod nms

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

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<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[pseudo saddle]

Ty

[simple crane]

I was testing Xbox cloud blackholes. For some reason they didn't show, but really warped my game. After summoning about 7-8 blackholes and entering the anomaly my game started breaking down.

Beats me, I don't really know what's causing this. There's no mods installed on this

[night adder]

It'd be such a great April Fool's prank, lol

[lime mesa]

What is modded like

[hearty wasp]

like it's different in some parts

[solid hawk]

It can be more or it can be less, depends on the mods you use.

[simple crane]

It's like witch craft to me, don't know how to mod but the people who do are pretty smart, at least compared to someone like me.

[vale iron]

Using mods is very simple. If you need help, just let us know what is confusing you.

[solid hawk]

!faq-modding 1st link

[hardy aurora]

1st link
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<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[quasi mason]

so I found some multiverse framework for NMS which is like skse for skyrim https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2118

any professional modder opinions on potential of this thing?

[fresh arch]

If you want professional opinion, you can ask directly on the modding server

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[fresh arch]

It has a channel dedicated to various API projects, including this one

[hearty wasp]

APIs like that p much just their own thing and most modders don't really interact with them

either because of prolonged lack of availability, interest and skill

it's been a "new front" for the better half of the decade and you're encouraged to dive into it as much as you're encouraged to dive into any other aspects of modding

[quasi mason]

but how long will it take for HG to break it with updates?

[hearty wasp]

you can prolly ask the dev in the mod page

[solid hawk]

If anything like all the other mods, every major update it'll need a fixup.

So, about every two months or so.

[quasi mason]

well, if it won't get abandoned I think NMS modding has a huge potential

[solid hawk]

Ray has been working on this thing, in one form or another, for 5-6 years, so don't think there's any threat of it going away.

[alpine orchid]

Is it best to use a mod manager or just installing mods directly, and is nexus where I get them/where are they primarily posted

[hearty wasp]

the latter

you can do the former for convenience but when you encounter an issue and mention using one modders will likely tell you to install manually

[alpine orchid]

I have used one when I play stardew valley, but how often does NMS get updated cuz then mods need to be updated as well

[hearty wasp]

every few months and then every few days

which doesn't change the fact that modders will tell you to install manually

[alpine orchid]

So its sorta a crapshoot

[hearty wasp]

ye

[alpine orchid]

How about Mod organizer 2?

[hearty wasp]

doesn't matter

if you want to reduce hassle use the mods' lua scripts with AMUMSS

but you will be recommended to install manually eventually if using a mod manager\

[quick river]

Is there a reliable way to remove core tech on ships? Like the photon cannon on solar ships?

[hearty wasp]

yeah by installing the mod correctly

[quick river]

Sorry I'm quite new to this field can you give me a few instructions like putting which file in which? Putting the pak in the MODS folder doesn't seem to be enough

[hearty wasp]

I've already responded in the modding server

[alpine orchid]

Is this a download for AMUMSS?

[hearty wasp]

you can check this page to see how to install mods manually https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Mods#Installing_Mods

[quick river]

Oh right sorry didn't see that I'll try it out when I get home thanks

[hearty wasp]

#nms-modding message the guide should have a link but if not just google AMUMSS

it's just about the only thing that has that acronym]

[quick river]

I was just standing in a trading post looking for anything that's better than my flying washing machine when the sexiest thing I've ever seen flew in. It was perfect aside from the photon cannon

White and gold S class solar ship for 9 mil only

[simple crane]

The under water kind of reminds me of gtas ocean

[fresh arch]

Misc Text Fixes updated to version 4.48.1: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2756

LUA script: further optimizations and adding support for generating translation
LANG module: changed subtitles of many base components' blueprints
LANG module: changed text elements related to the Exploration Guide secondary mission
LANG module: various smaller fixes (return to Nexus tooltip, attack a freighter tooltips, Trade Rocket description)
CRAFT module: changes subtitles for selected resource farming blueprints
CARGOPOD module: added new module

[sterile pivot]

Is there a mod that makes it so extractors actually pull at the stated rate per hour instead of having the 1-hour cycle?

[solid hawk]

Some that can speed up. May or may not be out of date for the .paks, but several have lua scripts to make an updated .pak. search nexusmods for extractor

[quasi mason]

any mods to get old styled menu back?

like here https://i.redd.it/6kg7c1tboog31.png

I found a mod that turns background back to blue

but not overall style

[wary ether]

Bro i had no idea you could mod nms

[solid hawk]

@quasi mason There is not. If you want that menu style back, you'd be better off playing legacy version of the game. From a mod making perspective, would be virtually impossible to do.

[solid hawk]

You're in the modding channel. lol

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

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<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[solid hawk]

1st link

[wary ether]

Much appreciated 🙏

[hearty wasp]

you'll have better chance asking for a mod that changes the wording itself to reflect the reality

and the answer will still be no

[quasi mason]

damn amazing screenshot

what world gen mods do you use?

[vale iron]

That's a preview of his v2 of his own terrain mod

Scroll up to see more

Looks like it will be very nice

[mossy coral]

Are there any mods that automatically pull from storage or inventory the ingredients needed to build something?

[hearty wasp]

can't

[mossy coral]

Thanks, just hoping. It's such a pain to try and make something only to find you need something else to make something for the first something. lmao

[hearty wasp]

yeah the crafting system in this game gets doodooer the more items it's got

[quasi mason]

@fresh arch sorry for ping but I have a problem with project apollo

I can't craft temporal scanner

recipe is just not here

[fresh arch]

In what inventory are you trying to craft it?

What's your progress on the Lost in Time quest?

[quasi mason]

very beginning, I tried to create it in multitool inventory

I'll try restarting quest

[fresh arch]

you get the recipe from Iteration: Hesperus over at Space Anomaly

After the ship communicator scene you go talk to them and obtain that blueprint

[quasi mason]

weird, I can't open menu of exotic tech

I think I know why

[fresh arch]

Potentially a mod conflict with any mod targeting REWARDTABLE.MBIN

[quasi mason]

yeah, as I expected

deadly mod is uncompatible with project apollo

[solid hawk]

deadly is more of an overhaul, so will conflict with tons of stuff.

Use AMUMSS to do a conflicts check, then can also use to combine/merge conflicting mods using Lua scripts. Both deadly and Apollo have luas

[quasi mason]

so that means I can merge them and use them together?

[fresh arch]

I havent tried to merge Apollo with anything so I dont know how these two mods will play out together

But in general, to utilize two (or more) conflicting mods, you have to merge them

[steel crypt]

You know... I just noticed it looks like a hammer and sickle lol

[alpine orchid]

Does using AMUMSS instead of just using paks cause less crashing? I have like 4 mods and I crash

[steel crypt]

AMUMSS is used to create paks

The pak is the end result which is the mod you use.

You can have conflicting mods, which cause a crash and you can use AMUMSS to try to combine them to stop a crash.

Before doing that, I would make sure the mods are up-to-date. Defunct mods will cause crashes and AMUMSS combining won't stop the crash.

Terra Firma v2 will probably include a fix to remove this vanilla voxelgen bug:
(These broken islands should not even exist. They are not intended to be there, are caused by a bug + poor method choice, and can cause other issues such as FPS drop while the engine tries to handle the broke-ness)
Still in testing, but fix is seemingly working as planned 🤞

[solid hawk]

Actually, it may or may not, depending on the nature of the issue. When Luas are run through AMUMSS, fresh copies of the game files are grabbed from the players game install as the base for the mod changes. So, the mod .pak is updated to latest.

[steel crypt]

Right. I completely bypassed that part lol.
Note to everyone: Do not listen to me for tools advice. 😅

I mean it’s sad really because that’s the main original purpose of AMUMSS. My brain has receded.

[solid hawk]

Nah, just helping to fill in a gap of information. We all need that assist every so often.

[alpine orchid]

I get an error crashing my game saying potential mod confliction, I only have one mod

[steel crypt]

That error screen has nothing to do with mods. It’s just a general error screen. It says that so you try to remove mods because they are probably the most likely cause of a crash. If you only have one mod, I can almost guarantee it’s outdated.

Look at when the mod was last updated.

[solid hawk]

Which mod?

[alpine orchid]

Fast actions

I’m pretty sure I got the most recent one since I downloaded it 2 days ago

[solid hawk]

That was going to be my next question. You downloaded from NexusMods, right? Also, are you running latest version of NMS (4.48) or a legacy version? See the number in the lower right of the screenshot (115437), that is the latest version of NMS.

Reason I ask about NMS version, mods are neither forward (use old version of mod with newer NMS) nor backward (use new version of mod with old version of NMS) compatible.

[quasi mason]

communism in NMS?

actually vy'keens being communist would feel right for me, idk why

[quasi mason]

alright thanks, I'll try that when I'll get home

[cursive raft]

ive never modded before, if I mod the game can I still play with vanilla players?

[keen trail]

It’s not when you download it, it’s when it was updated that counts. You can download mods that haven’t been updated for 5 years

[fresh arch]

Also @alpine orchid see

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

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<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fresh arch]

Mods do not impede on playing with other players

And make sure you run only mods that were updated for the current game version

(with some exceptions but general rule of thumb: pick mods from recently updated or new releases)

[quasi mason]

yes, but if you will use terrain mods player positions will be messed

[fresh arch]

It's a question of what kind of data gets synced between players and what kind is not

Terrain is generated only locally, terrain shape is not send to other players, but player position is

The 3rd link in guide I posted should cover this question

[quasi mason]

NMS multiplayer implementation is most unique one I've ever seen, its singleplayer and multiplayer at the same time

or should I say the way they utilized it? regardless of any mods you will be able to play multiplayer

[hearty wasp]

doesn't matter, still old mod

post MODS folder or the page you downloaded it from

[quasi mason]

I just did that, everything seems to work fine except textures, am I supposed to place them into other folder than modscripts?

[fresh arch]

Assuming you're still talking about Apollo - per installation instructions on the mod page

[quasi mason]

oh okay

[solid hawk]

If it's Lo2ks, not old and updated.

[solid hawk]

ModScript\GlobalMEFTI

[hearty wasp]

it's old until actual evidence shows otherwise

it's what a crash most likely indicates and that is more trustworthy than any other claims

[solid hawk]

Guilty until proven innocent. I like it. Also a great basis for a justice system.

[steel crypt]

Or you can go with innocent until proven innocent like Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Detroit, ........ and then you get free meth.

[mossy coral]

Any mods to work around this awkward 'hit X with one hand, the directional keys with the other hand and hit the left mouse button with the third hand' action?

[fresh arch]

... what

[mossy coral]

OK. When I want to do something that requires me to hit the X key such as change spaceship or change multitool, I have to do the following: (1) press the X key, (2) press the left or right direction key, and (3) press the Left Mouse Button. And sometimes if you hesitate and don't do step 2 quick enough you have to start all over. Just seems like awful lot of hand and arm movement that a few quick keys might eliminate.

[fresh arch]

No mods to deal with inputs

And you dont have to use the mouse

I think you confirm the selection with F key

[hearty wasp]

I've never used the arrow keys

scroll wheel works as well

[mossy coral]

Well, thanks. That's good to know.

[vale iron]

New mod released: gCharacter Chest Light Colors v448a:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2962/

[rich star]

Does anyone know how to create creatures using the save editor?

[quasi mason]

you need to edit creature seed somehow

I think

[alpine orchid]

I checked my version and it is outdated but I can’t seem to find how to update it

[solid hawk]

Maybe you have updating turned off. Is this Steam, GoG, or GamePass?

What build version is it showing at the lower right of the screen?

With Steam, go to the game, right-click and choose properties

Then in Updates, try these settings:

Then exit steam

and restart the client, which'll force a recheck for updates

GoG (in the Galaxy client) and GamePass should have similar sort of settings. I've seen it happen a few times where updating stops until the client is restarted, for whatever reason. I reboot my computer a couple of times a week, so haven't experienced this myself.

[alpine orchid]

I figured it out I just had to verify game files for it to update

[solid hawk]

Nice, glad you got it fixed. Guessing, now that you're updated to latest, that Fast Actions is no longer crashing the game.

[alpine orchid]

Can I use both .rar and .pak mods at the same time

Nvm I forgot rar files are just fancy zip files

[steel crypt]

7zip files are fancy zip files. Rar is just crap.

[fresh arch]

A small preview of the Project Apollo: Lost in Time mod. A new update is currently in playtesting phase and will be released soon (TM). The video shows a small side quest and some new additions to the mod.

Video: https://streamable.com/rg3abg

[vale iron]

New mod or backpack camera light colors:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2963/

[eternal warren]

Anyone using ReShade on Steam Deck? Niche question I know

[quasi mason]

this is looking amazing

vanilla planet generation honestly doesn't give you feeling of huge terrain, but this mod, damn

[steel crypt]

Honestly, I think I’ve learned more about calculus and geometry doing terrain than I ever learned in school. Dudes at HG might not be so good at some things, but they know some math.

[dusty lagoon]

oof, try doing graphics programming, it's taught me more linear algebra than my lectures ever did 😅

[long stirrup]

I feel like changing the player model out for a character from Murder Drones lmao
i wouldn't even be able to use the mod why do I want to do this

[steel crypt]

Because of the psychosis we all share.

[solid hawk]

The head, is semi-manageable. The rest would come with a multitude of issues. NMS uses it's own proprietary model file system. EVERYTHING dealing with the player character is in one file. Different races, each helmet, cape, pack, etc, all in one. We've no capable tools to do anything with animations. This is why there's no player character replacement mods on NexusMods. If the rest were surmountable, the final hurdle would be NMS mods are local. Nobody else would see your custom character, unless they had the same mod installed.

[hearty wasp]

did someone say changing the player model

think one other person tried it

last year I think

[solid hawk]

Oh yeah, forgot about this one. 🙂

[solid hawk]

Still, had its' issues

[stray raven]

what the most mods you can slam into 1 pak file?
got 29 workin so far

[marsh eagle]

No limit

[stray raven]

kinda what I thought but I wanted to be sure

any fun or QOL mod recommendations?

[stray raven]

"snap into a slim jim jack"

[fresh arch]

Pretty much anything from this list: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/880

But be sure to check out Lenni, Gumsk, 1Monk for various improvements and bug fixes as well

[stray raven]

Huge ty

[hearty wasp]

Sean

[stray raven]

no...not yet at least

[quasi mason]

Sean Sean's Sean?

[solid hawk]

One more Sean than Sean Sean

[lime mesa]

This gets 5 schmeckles.

[fresh arch]

Project Apollo is getting an update soon (TM), here's a little sneak peak of the new content

[restive heath]

can someone save edit this spider as a pet

[quasi mason]

looks interesting, ||will both choices give you different stuff? or it's just for different dialogue?||

[fresh arch]

|| There is only one correct answer and the others will bring you back again to this screen ||

I didnt feel like making complicated dialogues for side quests so I made them simple

[robust spruce]

Sean Sean Sean: Sean Sean

[night adder]

Not possible

[restive heath]

why

i mean, im not a modding expert, im curious why

since i saw people mod sentiel walker as a pet

[night adder]

Because pre-Sentinels, all mobs were coded in the same way as Fauna. But pretty much anything since then has not followed suit - it is possible to mod them into useability, but as a PS4 player, Im not the one to ask about that part. 😅

[restive heath]

ooooh

sad

[hearty wasp]

you can have a chair for a pet but that will make you unable to play multiplayer

same with anything not a creature

[restive heath]

ooh.

[restive heath]

can you mod a gigant worm? or not possible

[hearty wasp]

you can mod any model into a pet but if it doesn't have the pet data it breaks mp

and basically only pets have the pet data

[restive heath]

Oh okay

[obsidian wing]

Can people without mods see peoples moddded vechiles, pets and etc

[sleek sapphire]

No, but they can see save edited pets, such as a dragon with two heads and wings

Or any pet in general for most part that’s unobtainable except for a few ones that will brick multiplayer once spawned to detour possible grieving like the walker

Griefing

[solid hawk]

With NMS, mods are local

Most data, like modded changes to game files are not synced

[vale iron]

I wouldn't say it is to deter griefing. It's more just that the data isn't there so the network syncing doesn't know what to do, so it craps out

[fresh arch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1960

Maintained mods for expeditions stuff @mortal pike @haughty moss

[mortal pike]

Consumerism is the one I was going to suggest

[haughty moss]

funny, can't emote in vr for the second one :D

[fresh arch]

VR doesn't have the emote section of the Quick Menu?

[haughty moss]

no

[fresh arch]

Interesting

[haughty moss]

you have to emote manually :p I got confirmation from a player yesterday that 1. voice chat worked and 2. they saw my movements and weird staff holding

[fresh arch]

@solid hawk you might wanna take a look at it and add a disclaimer

[haughty moss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM

[solid hawk]

Nope

There's nothing to look at, there is no emote menu in VR, this is an HG thing.

[fresh arch]

Yeah I get that, I just didnt knew that was a thing

And I would assume most of players dont know either

[solid hawk]

I wouldn't have known if I wasn't told by a VR player. I can't afford VR.

Doesn't come up all that often, as the numbers of VR players are relatively low, due to the high cost of entry. 🙂

[haughty moss]

no man's sky is the best vr game I have

[solid hawk]

Unfortunately any mod that affects the emote menu, maybe a dozen total, aren't useable in VR. Nothing modders can do, it's a design decision by HelloGames.

[haughty moss]

Nothing modders can do
how about putting the emotes somewhere else? there's 2 commands in the pet menu that are basically emotes

[fresh arch]

Modding NMS is fairly limited, we don't have access to many core functionalities and that includes Quick Menu options

All we can do is push more stuff into the emote section

[haughty moss]

I mean, any vr user IS a non-vr user (unless they make a quest-native no man's sky lol) so it's all good, just thinking a bit

[solid hawk]

Yep, emote menu is only place in the Quick Menu we can touch, because it's controlled by the game files. The rest of the Quick Menu is controlled by the exe.

[haughty moss]

the emote menu is so flexible that they flexed it out of vr

[marsh eagle]

Use vr hand commands mod logic

[haughty moss]

do you know if it's possible with a mod to adjust weapon position?
in vr, you hold the staff like an rpg with invisible grip
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1659gcp/im_a_little_disappointed_that_this_is_how_we_hold/

[solid hawk]

Yep

[solid hawk]

Maybe, but as I do not have VR myself, wouldn't even be able to start

[haughty moss]

oh that's a mod thing, I thought they were talking about gestures and general vr stuff

[solid hawk]

Yes

[haughty moss]

I think since all multitools are same on screen, and you see what it does with staff, if you manage to manipulate non-vr, it should affect both

[solid hawk]

None of the current prolific modders, myself, JasonDude, Lo2k, Gumsk, FriendlyFire, lmonk, etc have VR. We're all poor

[haughty moss]

I don't wanna bother if there's no interest, just curious is all
don't know the first thing about modding, you told me everything except emotes in the quick menu is hardcoded, how do you know that? using that same way, could you find out if doing anything with the multitool would be possible? like imagine how aimbots work, I bet that could be used to make it shoot "up" instead of forward, but no idea about the viewmodel

[fresh arch]

Long story short: all what mods do is change values of existing parameters that are stored in game files as encoded text

We can't add new functionalities or new data types, we can only shuffle around what the game already provides

There might exist some values that define the offset and orientation of staff Multi-tool in VR mode but prolly noone has looked for them because we don't do VR

Both modders and VR players are a tiny percentage of the playerbase, now find someone who fits both of these sets

[cinder cave]

Hey all - I'm just dipping my toes into the modding waters. Right now I only have a handful installed -
Clean Analysis Visor
Instant Text Display
Better Ship Teleport Module Range
Better Ship Transfer Range
Fast Actions

And it didn't start right away, but lately I've been running into some really weird problems, like the tractor in a space station just plain not working and blowing me up a few times, or softlocks when initiating dialogue. Not reproducibly, but enough weird stuff often enough that something is awry, and obviously my first thought is mods.

Is this sort of stuff a typical "go recompile them using AMUMSS" scenario? Version mismatch stuff? Or do mod failures manifest differently in NMS? A lot of the weirdness is seemingly unrelated to the aspects those mods touch, besides the dialogue softlocking

[hearty wasp]

post MODS folder

unless you've only used luas with AMUMSS then run them through AMUMSS again, and then post ModScript folder

[cinder cave]

I've just been dropping the pak files in, most are by the same author and they have a compatability masterlist that I checked them against, so I wasn't expecting that I'd need to recompile them

I had been hoping if I kept it simple enough I wouldn't need to figure out the ins and outs of merging

(I just came from making FO4 mods for a few months straight and I'm a bit burnt out)

[solid hawk]

What FriendlyFire said above. There's nothing in the game files to adjust or change the rest of the Quick Menu, hence it's coming from within the .exe and we can't make changes to those.

[solid hawk]

Clean Analysis is completely out of date and does make changes to UI files, not just TEXTURES. That one needs to be jettisoned for sure.

1st rule of most NMS Mods (more latitude for Mods that only change game files in TEXTURES or MODELS folders) is they need to updated to at least latest current major version of NMS. In this case, we're talking late August/early September 2023. Anything older will at best be lacking newer properties and bug fix value adjustments. At worst will crash the game.

Current suggestions are to look for a visor/binoc mod that's been updated in the past few months and may want to run a game file verification to make certain you don't have corruption in your game files (be aware, this will recreate PCBANKS\DISABLEMODS.txt).

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1093

Also has optional colored background for the data views to make them easier to see during the day and on brighter or snowy planets.

Full disclosure, the above is one of mine.

[haughty moss]

How would one go looking for such values? All I can think of is cheat engine

[cinder cave]

Oh, the irony - I ignored how old it was because the description said it wasn't version-sensitive because it only changed the textures and models folders.

[fresh arch]

You will need to decompile the game files and manually look for the values you might wanna change in those decompiled files

Here's a tutorial to get you started: https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:The_Modding_Basics

Also it's advised to get some proper text editor with support with syntax highlighting, like Notepad++ or Visual Studio Code

[quasi mason]

sorry if it's annoying or just dumb question, but how much you need to do to finish this mod?

[ocean prairie]

Why do big updates or medium even though they might not change a lot of stuff still brake mods? Is it how the game engine is build or what?

[fresh arch]

It's because of the structure of the game files and where does HG put different stuff

Mods work by providing copies of files used for vanilla game in their entirety with the desired changes

And HG has a tendency to house lots of seeminngly unrelated data in the same files

Ex. lets say I make myself a mod that increases the damage of Photon Cannon by 10%. What I need to do is to take the whole METADATA\\REALITY\\TABLES\\NMS_REALITY_GCTECHNOLOGYTABLE.MBIN file, find the entry for Photon Cannon, find its section for stats and modify the base damage value there. Then I pack that file into a format the game can recognize and load it as a mod.

Now imagine a scenario: 2 days later HG pushes a patch with change like that: "now all exocrafts feature automatic engine recharging by default". The problem here is, the NMS_REALITY_GCTECHNOLOGYTABLE.MBIN hosts all technology modules found in the game - for exosuit, starships, mutil-tools, exocrafts, freighters and even objects you prolly had no idea are considered technology items. So HG also modifies that file, releases a new version of it and game loads it.

When I try to run my old mod with the new patch, what happens is: my mod provides an older version of NMS_REALITY_GCTECHNOLOGYTABLE.MBIN file, a version that does not come with the changes to exocrafts. So when I load the game, that functionality will not be present, only my buffed Photon Cannon damage will. So the keep both the vanilla game update and my change, I need to get the new version of NMS_REALITY_GCTECHNOLOGYTABLE.MBIN file, rework it like before and pack it into a mod again.

Another potential problem is HG adding brand new data types / structures to existing files. Lets say I made a mod that changes the animations used for the warping effects: from Galaxy Map, from portals, black holes, any kind of warping in general. As it so happens, the "links" pointing to those effects are housed in file called GCSIMULATIONGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN. I made my changes to this file and I pack it as a mod.

Some time later HG releases the Echoes update which adds the new Atlas / Atlantid MTs. And they put the references to them also in the GCSIMULATIONGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN file. Why in this file specifically? Noone knows prolly not even folks at HG. So game gets this update and it expects to pull that sweet MT data from that file, where my mod provides an older version of said file with those sections not present. So when the game tries to reach for that data, it can't find it, gets all 404 panic mode and crashes.

[ocean prairie]

Wow

So its game engine paired together with shitty update changes + not enough mod tools to help modders

Its ridiculous how 5 bug fixes brake 5 mods because why thats why

[fresh arch]

I wouldn't say it's an issue of the engine, more like an approach of handling / distributing data across the files

Maybe HG could have opted to have dedicated files for: exosuit tech, starship tech, exocraft tech, etc.

[ocean prairie]

So they can actually make this better if they want?

[fresh arch]

Only they can tell

And if you got a production codebase running for 7 years, the last thing you wanna do is to refactor it

[ocean prairie]

Hopefully for the new game they will, but somebody is gona have to write them every day of the week before the game is actually made so somebody on the team will go " hey this guy is right this will help out modders tremendously" its not just the braking of mods a lot of mods edit the same files so you cannot even use some mods together even though they do different thing (the common user)

@fresh arch Anyways thank for clarifying , i actually was looking into how to make mods but i dont think i will for this game

Great job to everyone else who does! You are the real heroes (in homelanders voice)

[fresh arch]

There is nothing to be gained for HG from reworking the game files, only potentially fucking stuff up in a catastrophical way

And yes, mods conflict is a whole other issue, but that's nothing what we can do about it

If two mods are modifying the same file, only one can come on top, providing its own version of the vanilla files, so all changes from other mod are lost

We have means of creating merged mods using tools like AMUMSS or NMSMB

[hearty wasp]

I'd wager it's at least half a full time job's worth of time

[haughty moss]

I just thought about this a bit, there are pistols, rifles, adn staves, the length is different, and couple times, when I had the nexus mission to destroy hostile flora, sometimes they spawned inside the indestructible tree things
and here's the thing, if I just move close enough, then move in real life and stick my hand in the tree, the multitool can hit the plant inside it
and it's easiest with the staff because it's so long, so there definitely is at least some offset variable ^^

[hearty wasp]

there are joints at the end of multitools so those may be controlling where the projectile comes out

but to answer the other question, we know what's hardcoded because there exist nothing in the files that controls them

you're free to dive into the files yourself if you want to start making changes that you think can benefit you

[haughty moss]

the joints are hardcoded?

[hearty wasp]

no sorry I forgor people don't normally know how in game files work

[haughty moss]

I read what was written here

[hearty wasp]

joints are parts of the rig inside a scene which is a manifest of the model geometry

[haughty moss]

only stuff I can find can be modded, no touchy the exe

[hearty wasp]

this explains the basic scene elements https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:Reference_Guides/SCENE_Files

and here's how to unpack your game so you can get started https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:The_Modding_Basics

[haughty moss]

I've seen the Rick Sanchez mod, model can be changed, what I'm getting form that is I might be able to just change the rig orientation

[hearty wasp]

yeah a big may

animations always override whatever changes you make to a static scene rig

so unless you change every animation file related to the scene you wanna change it's p tough titties

and anim files are not really editable just from the sheer amount of data

not discounting any math savant but most of us ain't one

[haughty moss]

you reminded me of when I was making a few vrchat avatars, animations not only work like you described, they can occasionally actually OVERWRITE the default state in unity :D

[haughty moss]

I have found staffmultitool.scene and comparing it with sentinelmultitool.scene and others, I can already see the staves were designed to be held upright by default as the idle animation suggests, there is literally <Property name="RotY" value="90" /> for staves

[haughty moss]

actually, it's there a lot, for each staff head separately, and some other values, one even has -90
I feel like I'm very close, I changed them all, this will be funny

I appear to have found the viewmodel stuff, I can't see it (testing without vr now)

I have certainly done... something
it was kinda obvious, but the first person model changes don't affect vr

[fresh arch]

i have done something

NMS modding in a nutshell lol

[haughty moss]

I don't know anyone who currently has nms installed, would anyone wanna test how it looks in multiplayer a bit later?

[fresh arch]

I dont think a change like this will be visible in multiplayer for other people

[haughty moss]

don't know until you try

[fresh arch]

Mods affect game files only on your machine

And in MP there's lots of data synced between players, but not all of it

Stuff like player position, damage numbers will be visible, changes to player model - rather not

[haughty moss]

exactly, my thought was that my game uses my files to find where I'm firing the multitool, then sends the impacts to multiplayer

[haughty moss]

does anyone wanna take credit for uploading the mod or something when I'm done?

[haughty moss]

I uh... kinda missed one of the first values, it was ridiculously easy, just turned a single 0 to 45 (and -0.078362 to -0.05 to move it a few cm to prevent clipping into the hand)

[fresh arch]

Nice, but you could check how it looks with other hand models in game as well

Maybe the clipping you saw happened only for the bigger robot hands

[steel crypt]

You can do some serious geometry transforms on a napkin with a calculator like I did for realigning parts on spaceships.

[haughty moss]

I saw a few lines of code in the file describing finger positions, it could be completely customised, but that was not my focus

[haughty moss]

it works extremely well for no reason :D don't underestimate no man's sky I guess :3

[fresh arch]

Nicely done

[solid hawk]

Weeks, months, as long as it takes. 🙂

Can't put a timeline on perfection

Jason won't release until 100% happy with the results. Tons and tons of checking in-game and adjusting. Very time consuming process.

[steel crypt]

That’s hard to say. Terrain is complex. For most changes, I need to load, check some area/feature (which means checking how it layers with others….which can mean checking a lot of area). Then I have to reload check another planet. Then check how it works with some layers like underwater and continents. Then load another planet. After about 30-40 planets or so I can usually tell how it’s going to work out. That’s for 1 change.

While doing this, I might notice how a change affects another layer and have to change that and repeat process. This can cascade through many layers.

It took me 2 years to do my first terrain mod. Mostly due to wanting to make sure it’s “good to go” because you DON’T want to change a terrain mod after release. I’m probably close to 90% if I had to guess but who knows how long the last 10% will take.

[quasi mason]

damn

I actually didn't even think about testing

probably increases exploration factor by 100 with lack of debugging tools

[steel crypt]

Yeah haha
Well actually if I were able to do adjustments in real time in game, it would help with some things but not much. If you want variety in terrain it’s a 2 edged sword. You can’t look how something happens on one planet and think that’s how it’s going to look because with same functions, it will be vastly different on another planet. So load load load load load load load…..looking good….load load oh crap, that’s not going to work right. Try again.

Like a simple adjustment to the roof of caves can destroy most layers of terrain. And it’s hard to nail it. Because there can be millions of iterations and I have to judge based on 50. It’s going well though and I’m not getting stuck on much.

[haughty moss]

I know you told me most modders don't care about VR, but do you know anyone with VR who might appreciate this?

[vale iron]

It's not so much that we don't care, just that 99% of us don't have vr so we can't develop, test, or fix for later updates

[honest pagoda]

among

[solid hawk]

What Gumsk said. The core mod author group for the game is a bit on the "older" side. Reality is that we have family obligations, which has precedence when it comes to money. Can't speak for anybody else, but I cannot justify spending the monthly grocery budget, to feed my kids, on a VR setup. If you're a multi-millionaire and want to buy mod authors VR, feel free. lol. Without that, we've no means to test and adjust as necessary.

I actually publish a small number of VR mods for NMS, which were handmedowns. Some I had to fix from a completely broken state. Not a lot of fun, when you can't see what you're doing. Like being a blind race car driver. Going to hit a wall eventually. One of which, which is still broken, I tried fixing several times with volunteer VR enabled testers. I would try a fix, with only code visibility, they would try it out and report back. Issues involving timely response and quality of the responses made me call it quits on that one. Ask somebody to check something, don't hear back for a month and the response is "broken". haha

[fresh arch]

Project Apollo - Lost in Time has been officially released! With bunch of improvements, new bobbleheads and new side quests it is a substantial update to the beta release! Get yours now before HG breaks it with a game update: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2864

[night adder]

RotY90 should be 90deg right or up, depends on whether syntax is around the axis or relative to face.

@simple crane i found someone who may have toys you wanna play wit

[hardy aurora]

@simple crane

No gifs in this channel please

[simple crane]

Sounds cool to me

[steel crypt]

The axis location in this case is most likely bound to a series of transforms before the actual node. Rotating Y +90 will rotate the node 90 on the vertical axis but the relative position and direction of that axis is based on the transforms it is a child to.

[night adder]

Ahh, so which is the one node to rule them all on staves?

[steel crypt]

I don’t understand that haha

So there is a stave model right, and if you had that model alone then rotating it 90 Y would simply rotate the vertical axis of the model. So like spinning a top.

However, the model is attached to the player model. Where that node (attachment point) for the stave model is, has an orientation and position based on how the player model pieces are put together and where it is attached to the player model.

So if it is a child then it’s starting orientation isn’t ….zero…. it’s more like this stave model starts pointing to the right at 47.2 deg and rotated on x axis 22.5 deg etc. before you affect its position and rotation directly.

This is so hard for me to explain. Like a list of things attached to other things attached to other things all of them having rotation and position changes that affect everything that is attached. (Cascading affect)

@night adder haha read that long ass mess

[night adder]

I get it, that node connecting player to staff is the "master node" - I was asking which part is oriented first, determining the orientations of the rest - thanks!

[steel crypt]

I believe we are on the same page haha 👍

[night adder]

If we're not, I cant prove it, so youre safe. 😂

[haughty moss]

#nms-modding message
I already did everything, changed 0 to 45, it's the exact angle of the controller
Z is forward, Y is up, X is left
Positive X rotation made it aim 45° up instead of forward

[haughty moss]

You can prove it, what I did, was change the origin, one of the first sets of transformations
Anything you change affects: non VR view model, VR model, and menu model in both crafting and inventory, the staff is pointing down, which means it's first turned +45° along X (up), like I intended, then some child of the origin is turned 180° along Y for the inventory and assembly view (the hologram with no parts selected stays the same, so it looks pretty goofy when assembling)

Anyway uh, rant over, what I wanted to say, if you do anything to any of the values, you should see a change no matter if you have VR or not
But some specific changes get negated in non VR third person, because the animation overrides them

[night adder]

Lol, youre right, I could, but while Im curious about positioning nodes, I dont care to get into manipulating em while im still playing ps4

[haughty moss]

OH, yea that does sound like a problem :D

If you wanna play around, I could send you some files, let you play around with them, then show you what you did

[night adder]

Lol, I'm good. i know how, I just dont want to yet. 😉

Thank you for the offer!

[simple crane]

I'm kinda confused lol, I could understand the vertical rotation making it an extension of the arm, but I'm guessing that's not what's happening.

Maybe I should try changing the rotation by -90 and -45 or 45 as well

[night adder]

Think of it like base objects - their position/rotation is always dependent on base origin.
By the same concept, where Staff connects to Arm is its origin.

[simple crane]

That makes sense.

I kinda feel like positioning my multitool in between my guy's legs

Maybe get a staff and scale it

[night adder]

Toss in a headless snake to make it all the WRONG!!! 🤣

[simple crane]

Are you trying to get me into bed

[night adder]

I'm offended you think it'd require effort on my part. 😛

[simple crane]

Alright all I have to do is find my coordinates for my guys waste and put them in

If anyone knows how to texture that'd be great, I need to change a laser texture to something white, preferably the terrain manipulator one

[vale iron]

Mining beam or other laser?

[steel crypt]

@weary grail
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2486

[weary grail]

Oh nice, thanks

[ocean prairie]

@round sinew Do you think this is still valid or a lot has changed? https://github.com/1pwny/Optimal-Upgrades its 2 years ago

[round sinew]

not sure, there's also !component bot command, but iirc there's some module types that haven't been updated e.g. neutron cannon

[ocean prairie]

I didnt play 2 years ago so i have no idea if the updates between that time and now have changed

!component

[hardy aurora]

@ocean prairie Specify a category:

Exosuit
Starship
LivingShip
Multitool
Exocraft
Minotaur
Nautilon
Freighter
Artefacts

[ocean prairie]

!component Exosuit

[hardy aurora]

@ocean prairie Specify a component for Exosuit:

LifeSupport
Movement
Shield
Sentinel
HazardProtection
ColdProtection
HeatProtection
RadiationProtection
ToxicProtection
UnderwaterProtection

[round sinew]

in #bot-spam

[ocean prairie]

sorry what does it do though?

[round sinew]

provided example in #bot-spam

[bronze ore]

How can I go to ghost/phantom stars?

Those which do not show up on the galaxy map

Like likholu

[night adder]

Dont go to Likholu. And by save editing, getting taxied, or using the Service Bot.

[night adder]

For every Visible star, there exist ~7 Phantom ones, pick any of the other QUADRILLION or so other Phantoms, lol.

[bronze ore]

Why not likholu

Does a space demon live there or some?

[night adder]

Because its where the actual assets from the Anomaly are hosted - youre not gonna do any damage there, but your Freighter base will get automatically reset the moment you arrive, and if you stick around too long, you'll eventually corrupt your save.

I mean, if you think that sounds fun, go for it I suppose. 🤷‍♂️ 🤣

[bronze ore]

So yep it's sort of a space demon

Got it

@night adder if I visit it on a different save, will that affect my main save

[night adder]

Nope, go ahead and see, and then get bored, and then never visit a phantom again because Likholu was so disappointing, rather than join the exciting group of players who want to discover the entire core void. 😛

[bronze ore]

Core void?

[night adder]

The 2087 regions empty of visible stars at the Core of each galaxy? Aka, the well of 2,087 x 4095 Phantom Stars everyone just blows right past on their way to the next galaxy?

[bronze ore]

That's explorable???

[night adder]

Console players need a lift to a Phantom to get started, but if you start at star #1 ( ), you can Emergency Warp all the way to star 4096 within a Region.

@bronze ore

You need to drop Base Computers if you want to go backwards, but forwards is just E-Warping stars in numerical order.

[ocean prairie]

How do i change my freighter crew (i assume this is only the bridge?)

[bronze ore]

I see, thank you for the help!

[night adder]

In raw JSON, PlayerStateData\ Current FreighterCrew (unsure of precise wording, but freighter and crew are in it), there's a long filepath, containing either NPCKORVAX, NPCGEK, or NPCVYKEEN - pick the one you want and swap it in.

[ocean prairie]

Is it this one ?

[heavy merlin]

No, raw JSON, from the menu at the top

[ocean prairie]

Noooo, i dont know how to do that, what is home seed for then?

[heavy merlin]

IIRC that affects the colours

[ocean prairie]

So model = frigate look and home seed = colours, ok and how do i get the crew to change explain to me what i need to do, i need to do it, i mean i already have the type of crew i want the race at least, but they are wearing ridiculous colours

i just wana change the colour 😦

[heavy merlin]

If you already have the race you want, this ^ isn't what you need, you could try changing that home seed

[night adder]

To what?

[ocean prairie]

@night adder@heavy merlin This guys, i wana change their colour i want them to be VYKEEN. its fine but it dislike the colour

Also why is my freighter without marking and stuff when it actually has markings?

Here it looks good on the costumize screen

[simple crane]

Forgot nms had that

[hearty wasp]

change the seed

[night adder]

To what colours?

The Inventory screen models predate decals

[ocean prairie]

What seed mate?

[ocean prairie]

I dont know , red, white is fine also

[hearty wasp]

#nms-modding message

[ocean prairie]

What do you mean by this, my question is why dont i have this screen in the inventory but only in the costumizer, when i fly i do see decails its only the inventory screen that is messed up

[ocean prairie]

Ok, what am i changing here to what?

[hearty wasp]

to another random seed

I think as long as it's within 16 bytes you can punch in whateverthefuck you want

[ocean prairie]

The model seed or home seed? And also why is my inventory screen of my freighter like this mate, just gray...

Is it normal or its fucked up?

[hearty wasp]

Moo already answered the former #nms-modding message
and like dharhan said, the model on the inventory screen is prolly a different model to the one in world

[ocean prairie]

Its the same for you?

[hearty wasp]

it's the same for everyone

[ocean prairie]

Can i see?

[hearty wasp]

see what

the way the seed affects how the scene is generated?

I don't understand what verification you need to understand that

[ocean prairie]

Inventory screen and costumizer screen, reason why i ask is because i got the colours for my ship from a venator colour ship not a normal system freighter ship it was not a "normal" seed

[hearty wasp]

if you want the NPCs to have a different appearance, change the seed

oh you mean that

my freighter is old enough to not have anything

but the way it's generated is all the same

[ocean prairie]

@hearty waspThe thing is, if i change the home seed of the freighter it will change the colour, and if i change the model it will well change the model, so i am trying to find a way to just change the crew...

I mean if you know of a white+black(bridge) seed colour tell me

[night adder]

The crew colours are pulled from the same seed as the model colour, and you asked for red

So the bridge should be darker red than that, white secondary

[ocean prairie]

awwwwwwwwwww

thank you, so that is the only way i guess

fuck

[night adder]

Black doesnt exist on the natural paint palettes anyways

The closest anything gets is charcoal, at best

[ocean prairie]

Ye true, so that seed you gave me, is it gona look like this or?

[night adder]

Primary dark red, trim light red, decals white I believe

[ocean prairie]

But why isnt the crew i have atm white+black(charcoal), there was no purple or green anywhere on my ship

This seed is that 0x820007646D39

The home seed

[night adder]

Reset custom colours? I thought that crew used home seed for colour

[ocean prairie]

Weird right? See that is why i think i messed something up because i took Venator seed colour and applied it to my system freighter, do you think that is the reason or that doesn't metter?

[night adder]

Shouldnt matter, provided youve loaded into a different save at least once since then

[ocean prairie]

No i never loaded into a different save

But why does that metter? should i make a different save and load there and then load back to my main?

[night adder]

No, I was checking an edge case possibility. I suggest loading up with the home seed I gave you - if it doesnt match your crew, hand me screenshots with the colours for both and I'll see whether I can figure it out.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the crew may be coloured via a derivative of the home seed. If so, controlling both their outfit and your bridge colour will be no bueno, itll be 1 of the 2

[ocean prairie]

Ok i will test it out

[ocean prairie]

Can somebody with S tier frigates, go into save editor and tell me the cost per warp, of combat, diplomacy, trade ships?

[fresh arch]

With Project Apollo being released, Im happy to announce Im working on a new mod idea already. And here's a little sneak peak of me breaking another boundary

[night adder]

Hey there

[mossy perch]

where to install the folder TEXTURE mods?

[fresh arch]

Nowhere, because mods for NMS need to be packed in an archive with PAK extension

[fresh arch]

Sounds like you downloaded a package with LUA scripts and other assets to be used with AMUMSS

So either find the download for the PAK archive of mod in question or get AMUMSS to compile the assets

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fresh arch]

2nd link

[latent oyster]

Could someone pls tell me what launch argument to input in order to prevent the game from pausing when alt-tabbed, using GOG Galaxy, not Steam.

[mossy perch]

noted

thanks

[fresh arch]

I dont think there is such a command

Quick Google doesnt bring up any commands other than launching game in VR mode

[mossy perch]

how about this, my good sir? @fresh arch

it contains these

[fresh arch]

No idea, where did you get it from

[mossy perch]

AtmoHover-PulseSpeed_v4.46.0-688-4-46-0-1702099552

[fresh arch]

I understand it was impossible to just link the mod page itself

It has PAK files, pick one and install it manually

See the 1st link from the guide I linked earlier

[mossy perch]

i got that one

how about the fomod folder?

just ignore it? or should I place it somewhere\

[fresh arch]

Disregard it

You only need the PAK file

[mossy perch]

i see

thanks

[vale iron]

Needs a mod. There are no command line or in game settings for that

[latent oyster]

For steam I've seen launch arguments, but galaxy doesn't work with those

[hearty wasp]

which is irrelevant because last time we checked there is no arguments that do that period

[latent oyster]

It worked for the person that needed it for steam, according to his answer.

[fresh arch]

And where do you get that info from?

Cause Steam DB does not list any command line parameters other than the VR mode

And I like to think these commands are only available to engines that support them and Steam in general, per this article: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Command_line_options

Game stopping when alt-tabbed is a problem since I can member and I think if there was an easy solution like that, it would spread like wildfire by now

[dusty cedar]

where can i download the latest NMS save editor and how?

[hearty wasp]

#nms-modding message

[dusty cedar]

whats the mod exactly called? it just brings me to the nexus page

[hearty wasp]

the latter 2 links

the middle section of the message should explain that they are tools you want

[dusty cedar]

Yeah got it working first try thanks

[ebon cosmos]

Hello there
So, I just reached my construction limit again and I heard there is a way to remove it
My questions would be: how? And what consequences may it have on my game?

[vale iron]

There is no way to remove global construction limits, if that's what you mean

[ebon cosmos]

So I'm limited to those X parts per save file and there is no way around that

[vale iron]

Correct

[ebon cosmos]

Oh well, thank you
I guess it's time to purge some bases

[night adder]

I'll grab you a link, because I've seen a post written by someone talking about AutoHotKey for setting up scripts for repetitive tasks, and iirc it claimed to have a viable solution to that problem

@fresh arch Afaik this seems reasonable, but I cant test it myself. 🤷‍♂️ https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyMods/s/EoGSwuBoeD

[fresh arch]

Nice, @latent oyster maybe you could try this method

[night adder]

And please lmk if you do! 🙂

[fresh arch]

Doesnt seem like it's dependant on the platform

[night adder]

I have plans that could use this, but I'm a ways away from needing it yet, so I wasnt worried about testing.... but if it solves a problem at the same time, sure I'd love some feedback! 😄

[fresh arch]

New mod published: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2967/

[steep lily]

I'd build a base under there

[hot latch]

Hey all, I've scrolled back a bit, and used Discord's search function, but haven't found what I'm looking for. I've been streaming NMS for years, and I'm sick and tired to the artifacting that happens during pulse drive. I've seen mods out there that completely remove it. Is there a mod out there that just reduces it to a level that won't cause my encoder to hate life, rather than eliminate it completely?

[fresh arch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2339 - this one maybe

[hot latch]

Glorious, thank you!

[hot latch]

Holy crap, that was a breeze to install and it works flawlessly!

does streaming happy dance

[steep lily]

Yeah I have that and black space mod and it makes pulse nice

Anyone use exosolar building mod

[dark osprey]

im gonna play wioth the pverhauled planet generation

looks like fun

[dark osprey]

When installing ammuss, do you just run buildmod.bat

or is there smthn else to install it

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fresh arch]

See the guide from 2nd link, has install instructions

[fossil robin]

now this might be kinda weird but if i was to 3D model some stuff that i think the community would like to see in game and posted said models in here, is that allowed?

[steel crypt]

I think it’s fine as long as it’s related directly to NMS and it’s not some kind of self promotion thing (trying to sell something)

[fossil robin]

dude i have not nearly enough modeling skill to sell it lol

[hot cipher]

what is the real reality on editing a ship I own or making it pop up as one I desire?

color stlye etc

[marsh eagle]

This probably explains it best without me wasting too many words here https://youtu.be/Aqlx8BAYZFE

[ocean prairie]

Do you guys know if there is any way via mod or editing to increase the LOD of the game? I feel things i spawning slow, i have game on SSD with all settings high but still i hate that i cant see stuff in the distance that much, i am using this atm https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1316?tab=images but i still feel things pop up very close to me

[dark osprey]

Afaik, the game cannot know what to render past a certain distance from ur character. This is because the game procedurally generates the world like as you're walking.
I'm not sure if there's a way to increase the rendering radius, but my guess is (unless u have a beast pc) that it's just too taxxing on the hardware for the average person and for consoles

[ocean prairie]

I know it generates it, but everything it generatas in a way its there, if a player finds settelment then the other player also finds the settelment

Actually i am not 100% sure about grass and small things, maybe you are talking about them and you might be right i dont know

[steel crypt]

Read the mod description. You say your settings are “high”. Mod requires ultra for LOD switch changes.

LOD switches have nothing to do with render distance directly.

If possible (not really sure), extending render distance past ultra would require a lot of things to happen. For instance, that terrain you see in the distance isn’t at the stage where objects can be placed. You would first have to make terrain render much further before messing with objects. It would be a heavy mod with a LOT of changes to a LOT of files. Most PCs couldn’t handle this.

[ocean prairie]

I should have typed highest instead of high but i meant was i playing on ultra

[jaunty ivy]

could a mod change the way terrain is generated underneath a building?

[solid hawk]

Buildings are just spawned on top of existing terrain, so yes, possibly. Terrain mods. Some do have their own buffer areas, such as clear space around.

[night adder]

@solid hawk Hey, you happen to know what version # GOG saves currently display on saves?

I know ps is 4658, and XB 5170(?), but wanna confirm which gog falls on

[solid hawk]

Like, the build? GoG should be 115196. If this is something different, I'm not sure. May want to check with Jason, as he uses GoG and can check for you. 🙂

[night adder]

Jason who?

[solid hawk]

jasondude7116

The DUD's mod guy. 🙂

[night adder]

@steel crypt fine I'll ping him lol. #nms-modding message little help please?

[steel crypt]

115196

[night adder]

No, not the build, the version number displayed at the start of json savedata

[steel crypt]

For public branch 4.48

[night adder]

For custom modes

[steel crypt]

Hmm okay never done this gimme minute

[solid hawk]

Here (this is steam)

[night adder]

Perfect, thanks! GoG is the version I really need but confirmation of Steam good too 🙂

[solid hawk]

Fire up goatfungus, pick a save, go to Edit>EditRAW JSON

Or Edit RAW Jason, if you prefer. 🤪

[night adder]

Right now XBox is using an old Creative mode version # from pre Waypoint, unless HG fixed it

5170 iirc

Thats whats been screwing with people joining cross platform

[steel crypt]

Assuming I’m looking at the right thing…think I am it’s 4658

[night adder]

Thank you kindly! 🙂

[steel crypt]

Yeah no sweat.

[night adder]

I think hg may have already pushed that fix

[solid hawk]

Party time

[night adder]

Actually sorry, I didnt understand my friend's request.
He wants to know what it says for the value like these, on GoG

Win|Final```

He's working on a tool that manipulates savedata, and he wants to make sure it's coded properly to handle saves from all platforms - sounded like a good idea to me, hence poking people here lol.

[steel escarp]

@round sinew you said to move here so here I have moved :3

Upon loading the save after setting the progress value to 40, i now have the coordinates for a fallen host and am being told to imprint upon it and that it may choose to accompany me. Going to check the marker now

WELL
That is indeed a living ship
I guess that fixes all of it then

[round sinew]

perfect 🙂

[steel escarp]

Thanks for spending like an hour and a half helping me lol

[round sinew]

through all of it, that was the best outcome possible

[round sinew]

pixy helped a bunch too, at the needed times 🙂

[steel escarp]

I was just going to check the other channel to see which username that was lul

(thanks to you too @fallow meadow)

[steel crypt]

I don’t know what you mean.
Mine is Win|Final
Version 4658

[night adder]

For someone who doesnt know what I mean, youre doing suspiciously well when it comes to giving me exactly what I ask for. 😛 Thanks again!

[steel crypt]

Lol lucky guess I guess.

[solid hawk]

What if it says Win|UnderConstruction?

[night adder]

@round sinew Can I assume that on both Linux and Mac, it'll be
Win|Final
As well? And do you know where I can get the answer if not?

[night adder]

Then I guess an unlucky player is gonna be delayed in moving into a new save - because they obviously haven't finished the structure!!! 😅😂🤣

[solid hawk]

Fin Mac and Linux, you'd be best off asking for users on those platforms in a general discussion or OT type channel. Mac users wouldn't hang in a modding channel, as mods don't work with Mac.

[round sinew]

linux uses windows build, so it will say Win|Final, mac probably says something else (assume Mac|Final)

[solid hawk]

You may have to help baby step them through JRE install and Goatfungus install and usage though.

[night adder]

Appreciated, shouldnt be necessary, our plans don't require it, my partner just decided that he wanted to see how fast I can find other answers he wants. 😅

Okay, one he really wants, how goes the GoG savedata structure get handled re: multiple users? Because it uses the path UserDefault, and he's asking what the next distinct user's save folder will be named?

@steel crypt I swear, last time for tonight lol

[steel crypt]

I don’t know. I am one user.

I don’t feel like I’m understanding but wouldn’t it use the same path?

[solid hawk]

I think what he wants is if you create another user account on the computer, run the game and take a new save for that user. Where would that save be generated?

[fresh arch]

👀

[hot cipher]

ty imma study and do this!

[steel crypt]

I would figure it out for you but…. I don’t want to add another user to my PC to test. I’ve had all kinds of issues adding removing user accounts before.
However, it should be the same as Steam. So far, NMS has been identical on Steam and GOG so if there is a Steam user with multiple accounts, they could probably tell you.

[haughty moss]

someone made a post about a hilly settlement with inaccessible overseer and construction terminals
my idea? scale them up... I uh... kinda just scaled every part of the model by 10 to test... some parts that were attached to others grew exponentially :D

[opaque horizon]

Hi, looking for mod to remove grey/color change filter from Chromatic Biome planets, I just hate it, is there one, or I can do this easily myself?

[fresh arch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968

See the Planetary Filter mod from this collection

It removes some of the yucky greyscale filters

[opaque horizon]

Thanks

[opaque horizon]

Sadly did not work, any way to find out which specific filter is being used, like console command or something??? There are like a hundred filters for this game....

[hearty wasp]

usually we just extrapolate from internal names

as in from in game files

[opaque horizon]

ok, one of the "weirdX.dds" lut files, I've never worked with DDS files, it would help immensely if I could just apply color grading as dds to an image and preview, preferably in GIMP...

I think I'll edit out all of those and see if that helps.

Seemed to work, ay

Thank you for pointing in the right direction

[hearty wasp]

nah kudos to you for immediately going for it

most people don't even get past the reading names part

but it never hurts to ask if you have questions in the future

not physically, at least

[opaque horizon]

:D, ok I can get back to actually playing again, I had to build a base there, and it was depressing playing with that awful filter...

[fallow meadow]

Expedition Rewards - 4.50

[solid hawk]

There is no console or API for current NMS

[night adder]

Yeah but the problem is that Steam sorts it by steam ID, and what we dont know is what comes after \DefaultUser
^ With Steam this subfolder is an ID#, so we have no way of knowing what comes next here. 🤷‍♂️

[night adder]

It's not likely to be a problem often, if at all, but we're trying to build tools for everyone, and we mean it to be for as everyone it can be, ya know? 😄

@steel crypt Can you think of what my next question is?
Anyone you can think of that might be able to help? I admit, it's gonna be funny if you say no because if you do I intend to ask everyone ALL AT ONCE!!!

[steel crypt]

I don't know haha
Maybe try asking on the csdiscord? They do a lot of save editing stuff.
I will ask around the modders and see if anyone else is GOG and might be able to help.

[vale iron]

I know mm has gog

[night adder]

I appreciate it, and let me know, but I think I'm gonna take that as a No because I really want to ask EVERYBODY - and I wanna see how close to "all at once" I can swing, too. 🤣

[steel crypt]

I've done a couple "everyone"s before. Do it and run for cover 🙂

[night adder]

Dont you think it sounds fun? Because it sounds fun to me. 🤷‍♂️

[steel crypt]

The most flashing emoji I have seen

[night adder]

Oh, sorry, did you not know who youre talking to? Screw "run for cover" - I wanna tell everyone everywhere I can at the same time and then see how fast we get🤌some 🤌**answers!!**🤌 😅

[steel crypt]

Wait, I have a question.

[vale iron]

I don't even know what you're trying to do :p

[night adder]

You dont need to 😛

[vale iron]

That's a great way to get answers 😉

[steel crypt]

The folder structure for a single GOG user is:
C:\Users\DUD\AppData\Roaming\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser

[night adder]

I never said you couldnt ask 🙂

[steel crypt]

Wouldn't a second user just be in a diff main folder under "Users"?

I'm missing something here haha

[night adder]

I need yes, not maybe

Basically I'm never not gonna need this answer until I get it, so I may as well just ask everyone I can at the same time, see?

[steel crypt]

I mean that's how windows normally works right?
Say the new user is named "Timmy"
Win would make a folder structure: C:\Users\Timmy\AppData\Roaming\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser right?

[night adder]

And what would someone logged into the same PC user account, different gog user account, have for theirs? I know exactly what question Im asking lol

[steel crypt]

One sec checking something

I don't know.
There is no way in Galaxy (GOG client) to set anything related to save game location.
This is an edge case and I have no idea who would be in this situation of having two GOG accounts to test.

[solid hawk]

If your partner wants to know the answer to this so badly, that person needs to buy two GoG accounts. 🙂

[steel crypt]

IMO it’s such an edge case that I wouldn’t worry about it unless someone had a bug report. At that point you have a person who can test/help maybe.

If you just absolutely need to know this obscure thing then I would personally ask GOG and see what they say.

[rapid sandal]

It's up to the dev where to save things. The fact that HG named the GOG save folder DefaultUser suggests to me that they don't support multiple GOG accounts. Likewise GOG seems to only support a current user, none of their config data supports a list of accounts like Steam, so I would expect that if you logged into GOG using a different account then played NMS the saves would still go in DefaultUser. I think most that want mult GOG or Epic Game accounts create dummy window accounts to host them.

[steel crypt]

Well said. I was noticing the same thing with galaxy files. I came to the same conclusion.

[night adder]

That is a very useful answer. Thank you both! I appreciate it. 😄 @steel crypt

[steel crypt]

From below:

From above:

[hearty wasp]

HI, WINDERTP HERE FOR CONSUMERISM™️ 1.1.9

ARE YOU ON AN EXPEDITION TO PLAY THROUGH THE EXPEDITION BUT DON'T WANT TO KEEP EXPEDITING THE EXPEDITION JUST TO GET THE EXPEDITION REWARDS?

DO YOU WANT THE SPIKY HELMET BECAUSE YOU WANT TO COSPLAY AS LOW POLY SONIC THE HEDGEHOG?

IS YOUR LIFE A FLEETING STREAM OF TIME AND YOU CANNOT WAIT TO SPEND YOUR TIME WITH YOUR LOVED ONES (THE NEW JETPACK) INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME?

WELL, WHY DON'T YOU BUY, BUY, BUY THE NEW EXPEDITION REWARDS?

BUY NOW AND GET SOME TIME YOU'D'VE WASTED, ABSOLUTELY FREE
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062

[vale iron]

Quick test:

[solid hawk]

What about from a 23.762 degree angle?

[violet lynx]

Hey does anyone have a mod to disable overcharged of technologies for the experimental version ?

[fallow meadow]

I'd suggest using a Save Editor, but those are currently broken for current Steam Experimental saves

[fresh arch]

The globals file required for this mod was decompiled for experimental branch

But I guess nobody updated the mods for tech overload yet

[violet lynx]

Ok thanks

[vale iron]

I'll upload it when I get up in the morning

[solid hawk]

Almost nobody updates mods for experimental NMS builds on Nexus Mods. Reasons:

1. Mod .paks for experimental would crash the game if used on public builds and vice versa
2. Normally, only a small percentage of players run experimental builds
3. Experimental builds can be updated frequently, even several times a day. Each new game build might require a mod to be updated as well, depending on the game files used by the mod and what game files are changed in each NMS experimental build.

Just not worth the hassle and potential harm.

[night adder]

Anyone care to help a brother out? My buddy wants people to run this expression on as many different operating systems as possible, something or other about validations and pathing. So would anyone mind running it and telling me if it doesnt work?
https://regex101.com/r/dfgYYP/2

[heavy merlin]

I thought those "or"s looked wrong, and the site seems to agree.

[sour halo]

It is matching a single character

Backslash escapes the character so it represents as the literal character

[vale iron]

NOTE: It's for an interim experimental build. You need to update later when the game and mod update

[vale iron]

Blue-Purple gradient with lighter white test

[vale iron]

Though it came out more magenta-purple gradient

[night adder]

Okay what operating system?

[night adder]

I'm a caveman here, I dont get it I just know that all I need to get is that it didnt work and find out what operating system it didnt work with lol.

[heavy merlin]

Uh, any. " or " isn't regex anywhere. But I'm not sure what is meant to be tested, as just using the site would work the same way anywhere too

[sour halo]

Isn't regex anywhere then what's this? Looks like documentation of exactly what the or does

Cause the site works for me when I plug-in a path

Explanation on the site seems pretty straight forward as well

[heavy merlin]

Matches a space, an o, or an r, which isn't likely to be what is wanted

Deleting all the ors works just as well. There are also other strange things like {1} {2} that don't do anything useful. I'm not entirely sure what is meant to be doing but I think it may be coming from the wrong direction, as in Windows at least, any character can be used in a path except for a few certain things

[sour halo]

Yea windows already been checked less u can show a windows path that doesn't match the query

As for the or if u check the explanation on how it's working its not checking itself for viable characters in the string, things from the A-Za-z

[heavy merlin]

c:\börk

[sour halo]

As for brackets numbers they limit the number of instances of occurrence

[sour halo]

Site still matched it

[heavy merlin]

Liming it to one instance isn't sensible as you can just not put any kind of repeat on it. And the {2} are inside of [ ] so don't actually do that at all

Oops, c:\foo\börk

[sour halo]

Thank u...been trying to refine the text pattern to check for all viable strings that match path formats on all platforms

The limitter checks r from my own testing to avoid the path separator and the drive indicator from being double stacked or in a placement it shouldn't b

That way something like c:\foo\\bar doesn't happen

[heavy merlin]

Except it does accept that

[sour halo]

At some point ig in my tweaking of the string I messed that up

[sour halo]

Yea just double checked to make sure that value no linger pinged

But this gives me a good place today to start tweaking it more

[heavy merlin]

https://regex101.com/r/dfgYYP/3 does the same as far as I can tell

[sour halo]

Got any other pattern types that fail the check? I see I need to expand the character check as well as Crack down on the pathing structure for separators ...I hadn't touched regex before yesterday so I'm sure what I wrote also isn't the most efficient, I just pieced together the documentation on the site to get that to work

[sour halo]

Also again thank u for this example

Tbh I'm curious to see what happens to that path if I force it into ascii since rn that's what I'm doing to force carriage returns and newline characters to b visible in the outputs

[sour halo]

'c:/foo/b\xf6rk'

...welp...idk what i expected but ig this makes sense

[lunar garnet]

question wat would i search for to find out why a mod is causing nms to crash on startup

[hearty wasp]

your mod is old and broken

just don't use it if you can't make a mod yourself

[lunar garnet]

huh?

i updated mods and even tho i updated them one mod still says its needing updated

[hearty wasp]

yeah

that means it's old and broken

and you should not use it

you should check if the file description specifically say it's updated to the specific build you're playing on

your game's build number can be seen at the lower right corner in the mode select screen

but if a mod crashes your game consistantly

it's broke

[vale iron]

It will help if you provide the mod name

[hearty wasp]

and you should not use it

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/367

[fresh arch]

After the proper release of my Project Apollo - Lost in Time mod, I started working on a new idea. I feel like I'm ready to share some information about it and in the same time I'm looking for some feedback.

Liminal Opportunities is a mod based on the idea of custom Nexus mission revolving around exploring a derelict freighter. I always thought the idea of giving 1 free Emergency Signal Scanner from specific NPC per week was kinda weird, considering there already exists a proper framework allowing people to embark on such an adventure both solo and in group in form of Nexus missions. So I got my fat ass to work and the result can be seen in the attached video.

Obligatory disclaimer first: this mod will NOT allow players to do these missions together. I have 0 knowledge about the MP and network aspects of the mission structures, so consider this only an addition for the single player experience. The whole idea is still very much WIP and every aspect of it is still subject to change.

Video showcase (around 6 minutes): https://streamable.com/s4gtdn

[neat hedge]

hear me out...is there a way to open pb3 base files in a 3d model program? changing it's format, for example

[fallow meadow]

Could you be a bit more specific as to what you are trying to accomplish? What is the format you are looking for?

The .pb3 file is specific to NMSSE (base backup)

[neat hedge]

any format really, i don't even know if pb3 files can be changed in format, all i really want is opening the files o- oooooh, then how do people make blender bases? don't those have to follow a similar format?

like, it's just an input system? no way to get the base opened in a 3d program?

[fallow meadow]

<@&590975379678953522> Can we get rid of the above?

Thank you

@neat hedge Well, yes and no. Let me try explain. The .pb3 file is easy to use with NMSSE for its backup/restore functionality. But this means basically only really useful to NMSSE itself. The data it actually contains is the JSON but in a protocol buffer format (proto3) I assume. These files are not useful for other tools, unless specifically made to work with them.

When it comes to making Blender bases, you really just want the plain JSON. So you will use the Save Editors Raw JSON editor to copy the part that contains the Basae data, which can then be imported into the NMS Blender plugin

I'll not get into detail on the .pb3 file format, it makes sense to NMSSE and having JSON exported or backed up.
Have a look here: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/984
It has a video as well, which will show you how to work with making those bases and using NMSSE to get the data required

There is also a standalone app of this plugin, in case you prefer: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2598

[neat hedge]

thanks for the help there! tried to search some info about the pb3 format itself and couldn't find much, this explains many things for me

[neat hedge]

understood the last part in some way

[fallow meadow]

Considering NMSSE being Java, I think the technical info can be gotten from here: https://protobuf.dev/getting-started/javatutorial/ and https://protobuf.dev/programming-guides/proto3/#oneof
But as said not really useful to you when it comes to making bases with other tools, unless you want to create some sort of conversion to make it useful.

[neat hedge]

nah all i really want is opening the file itself, to see the model of the base xD

[fallow meadow]

Exactly, so use either save editor and open the Raw JSON editor for your save. Look for the PersistentPlayerBases and make sure to open the base you want, to then copy the full raw JSON data for that base, which can be used within the Blender plugin to import (can be done straight from a clipboard copy). I usually use a text editor in between the save editor and blender. The other way around, you can export and paste it back into the save data, overwriting existing base data

The standalone app works pretty much the same way

[neat hedge]

thanks for the info!

[terse current]

Remind me again but are there anyway to get outlaw flag and cape, maybe crimson engine colors from past exditions?

[fresh arch]

Using mods / save editor / service bot

[terse current]

How do I go to steam apps?

In folder?

@unborn urchin

Next is renaming it to disablemod.txt or something?

Or just leave it?

[unborn urchin]

No, you leave the .pak as it is, but you rename the DISALBEMODS file

[terse current]

To what?

[unborn urchin]

And if you ever start the game again and don't see the mod working in game, check the folder to see if the game replaced the DISABLEMODS thing

Anything, I usually go with DISABLEMODS_

[terse current]

Rename DISABLEMOD to what? That what I need to know

[unborn urchin]

Yes, to whatever you want, for example with a _ at the end

It just needs a different name so the game can't read it and thinks it's not there

[terse current]

Ahh

[unborn urchin]

The file is there as an easy way to troubleshoot in case players run into issues on modded games. If it has its normal name, all mods are disabled and you can test if things work on Vanilla

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fresh arch]

1st link

[terse current]

Wait I don’t see MOD folder in the PCBANKS, do I need to create one?

@fresh arch

[terse current]

Of course, gotcha

Then I add .Pak into mod folder? @fresh arch

[fresh arch]

Do I have to copy the same text again with another line highlighted?

[terse current]

I… don’t know, it’s why I’m asking

[fresh arch]

Put the PAK files inside the MODS folder you just created

[terse current]

That’s what I’m asking so the answer is yes

IT WORKED

[unborn urchin]

Wohoo!!

Now go to the Anomaly and check out the bazillion new items in the QS store 😄

It takes a while to scroll through all of them now

[terse current]

Yar yar yaaaaar!

@fresh arch My apologies for asking a lot from you. Computer is like a MASSIVE maze to me

So thank you for supports!

[unborn urchin]

And get ready to do a LOT of MP missions, but only the ones that give Quicksilver (which is one new one per day, up to three accumulated)

[magic lava]

That's not for this channel

[potent reef]

Is there a mod that for an enhanced filter system for the galaxy map?

I want something where i can do something like "show only systems that are either 3* or outlaw that are vy'keen"

I tried to search for filter on nexus mods and couldn´t find anything. The only filters there are some that change visual filters while playing on planets

[fresh arch]

No such thing exists

Mods can't add new functionality to the game

[potent reef]

very sad

[solid hawk]

HelloGames themselves are the ones who would need to implement such a thing. There's no existing game properties to allow for this.

[solid hawk]

Technically, we can add new properties, with only two minor caveats...1) Will do nothing because there would be no functions in the exe to use them, 2) Game would crash every time, because the exe would not recognize the new properties. lol

[restive heath]

question - if someone gives me an egg of a "rare underwater" creature, can i interact with it normally?

[solid hawk]

If it is not a creature type than can be a pet in vanilla, then maybe\maybe not. Depends on what code is missing. If it is a creature type that can be a pet in vanilla, then should be alright.

[unreal hollow]

Hello everyone, what are the best no man's sky mods that deserve to exist? I might give them a try.

[vale iron]

I'll beat Winder: Sean

Arghwater

But mostly it really depends on you. What do you want?

[night adder]

So, I have a dumb question I wanna learn from. What would happen if you simply excised the code to detect economy tier...
And reinserted prior to the code handling race distribution?
(Iirc race is an .exe decision, but I'm more interested in the viability of a switcheroo than solving this problem now)

[vale iron]

You mean move it in the mbin or in the exe? I think moving in the mbin would make no difference, but would need to try it

[rapid sandal]

"reinserted prior to the code handling race distribution" you generally can't just insert code into an exe. you would need to find enough bytes before the race distribution code that you could rewrite to include a jump to the code to detect economy tier, without disrupting whatever functionality those hijacked bytes were doing. one way would be to take those bytes and copy them somewhere else as a callable function, then you'd first call the moved bytes function, then the code to detect economy tier, then the code handling race distribution. you'd also have to no-op out the old place where the code to detect economy tier was being called. if the code to detect economy tier and the code handling race distribution are two function calls that are already 'together' then you may be able to just swap the calls ... but you'd be lucky if that was the case.

[night adder]

Thank you, that was a very concise answer, and I found it helpful - but was literally the answer to a question I tried NOT to ask 🤦‍♂️
Let me try and rephrase it, gimme a min.

[night adder]

Sorry wait - the end covered exactly what I asked

Awesome, thanks! 🫡

[rapid sandal]

yeah, swapping the calls is more than just swapping two call pointers, theres also the code before the calls that pushes the function parameters on the stack or puts in registers, and any call after that uses any return value. so if the functions have different number and types of parameters or return types then it's a bit more work.

[ocean prairie]

Oh i hope mods wont brake

[vale iron]

They will

Almost all

Some of us will get updates up quickly, though

It helped a ton that they gave us the experimental early

[fresh arch]

FRIENDLY REMINDER: do not attempt to run old mods with the new version of the game (4.50, Omega update)

HG changed a whole lot of files and moved some data structures around, making most of the existing mods incompatible!

Make sure to use only mods that have been updated to the last version of the game!

[potent reef]

Do mods break on new updates?

damn ty

[fresh arch]

FRIENDLY REMINDER NUMERO DUO: save editors such as Goatfungus or NomNom may not function correctly due to structural changes in save file data!

Wait for your save editor to get updated to be compatible with the latest version of the game!

[charred isle]

yeah seems like they updated a crapload of stuff lol

[fresh arch]

Yeah they did

I need to update almost all of my mods

Anything more complicated than a simple texture replacement will need to be updated

Some mod authors are already working on that so please be patient

[charred isle]

i dont have any installed so im safe thankfully

[rapid sandal]

The latest NMSMB release 4.50.0.0 has a save file viewer and can mod save files via query scripts ... for those brave enough :). It works with the latest pub and exp game releases.

[hearty wasp]

nearly forgor to continue the tradition

increasingly demented updated writing

[vale iron]

My mods will be updated within 2 hours. Just woke up and kicked up the update process

[vale iron]

All common mods updated. Will look into uncommon mods later.

[solid hawk]

FRIENDLY REMINDER NUMERO TRES: Related to the first one by FriendlyFire above. If you are a GamePass or GoG user, who do not yet have access to the NMS 4.50 update, Do NOT use any of the updated mod .paks being uploaded to NexusMods from today until you get access to NMS 4.50. The updated mod .paks will crash your game. Not only are NMS mods not forward compatible, they are not backward compatible either.

All Exosolar, Babscoole, Mjstral, Lowkie, and Reikokuu mods updated.

[inner sapphire]

I had a problem getting my mod to work with NMS 4.50 and I'm not sure what was going on. The part with the difficulty settings moving to their own file, that was the easy part. But the part which added the Emeril engine trail crashed the game.

I ended up combining two ModBuilder scripts into one, and that seemed to solve it.

[vale iron]

It would help if you mentioned the mods

[night adder]

Question: Why do you not want me to be able to talk to you in private any longer?

[odd crater]

Probably for the same reason you would talk about it publicly.

[fresh arch]

Nah, everything is fine, just a small fuckup from my side

[ocean prairie]

aare mods broken with this update?

This are the ones i use

[fresh arch]

Yes: #nms-modding message

[ocean prairie]

Please no, some has to work right? like the more words translated and similar shit?

[fresh arch]

There is a reason why mod authors are updating 90% of their mods since yesterday

And it's not for shits and giggles

There were some structural changes across most popular game files

[vale iron]

some of those might still work?

[fresh arch]

Consider ALL MODS to be outdated

And wait for mod authors to update them to be compatible with last game version

Some - maybe. More words rewards? Hell no

1 new line of text broke all "better reward" mods

[vale iron]

Definitely not

more words breaks every medium/major update

sometimes on small updates too

[ocean prairie]

nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[fresh arch]

shameless self promotion Public service announcement: all my mods expect for Project Apollo have been updated to be compatible with game version 4.50

For the time being, Project Apollo will be unavailable to download. Any older version of it will not be supported. The mod page will be brought back once the new version will be ready

[hearty wasp]

You are free to test them one by one if you don't have the knowledge on in-game files and how to check against the hash change list but like others said just consider everything to be broken

Except texture and model replacements

[fresh arch]

As is tradition: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2970

[fallow meadow]

Twitch Drops - Updated to include Season 8

[fresh arch]

Good job as usual @fallow meadow

[meager shoal]

Anyone have any good mods that give variety to the creatures and planet exploration?

[merry wasp]

updated

[blissful carbon]

Would anybody have recommendations for general performance mods? I don't want to make the game super heavily modded, just QOL/improvement kinda stuff

[hearty wasp]

Sean

[solid hawk]

Nothing gives more variety to the creatures, as we can't add new. As far as planet exploration, can look at terrain, biome, and various color mods (water, sky, plants, ground, etc)

[solid hawk]

For QoL, the main author to look at is Lo2k.

But there's a large smattering of them by other authors as well.

[raven smelt]

anyone know if theres a save editor that works rn? trying to get custom colors on my new ship

[fresh arch]

See this post: #nms-modding message, maybe try contacting CMK to get more info

[raven smelt]

i saw that, i was talkin bout what people are using currently, somebody has something that works xD saw the new ship in bright pink earlier

[fresh arch]

New ship as in the Starborn Runner from expedition?

[raven smelt]

yeah

[fresh arch]

That was most likely a texture replacer, @vale iron here is working on this

[raven smelt]

ohhh

i thought it was a save edit using hex colors

[vale iron]

That's odd. I don't know anyone else that knows how to and is making reskins of the ship

And I haven't released it

[fresh arch]

cue X Files music

Maybe it was the standard texture but appeared pink in lighting conditions or photo mode?

[vale iron]

Yeah, more likely

Or a post edit

I wonder where the HG logo would be. Or I guess I can just steal it from their site

[fresh arch]

But if it's still in the game

Then could anyone access it given proc gen?

Dunno how that affects decals

Or is it just a node in the scene file for the Runner

Ah wait scratch that, forgot it's a fixed seed, nevermind

[fresh arch]

Wait

Why is the middle glyph pink

[vale iron]

I'm changing things. My character was always green and pink

but I'm doing some tweaks now

Hmm, wasn't as straightforward as I'd hoped. Need to edit some more

Crap, I think the decal shape is baked into the model mesh. Why they would do that instead of use transparency...

Weird, not anything in the model that I can see

Oh, nm, me stupid

[vale iron]

Meh, got the decals replaced, but don't like it.

[fresh arch]

Yeah, the glyphs kinda turned into random dots

Maybe use some kind of square-based font?

[vale iron]

Or I could compress them down to just the black nose part

I think I'll kill this idea for now. Maybe make an optional file that modifies just the decals in different ways.

[fresh arch]

Decals are stored in separate texture as the metal bits?

[vale iron]

It really feels like too much. A minimal decal set would look better

yes

[fresh arch]

Yeah then make it an optional download maybe

Maybe what you could do

Have the nose decal be in form of multiple stripes going down the nose

And the middle stripe has a cut out for the glyphs

[hearty wasp]

put in a harambe

for old time's sake

[magic lava]

Why hello

[strange narwhal]

Hi, does the NMS save editor work with Omega?

[fallow meadow]

No, neither Save Editor currently works with new Omega saves (NomNom/NMSSE)

[fresh arch]

There is this post: #nms-modding message but you'd need to test it for yourself

[strange narwhal]

Oh damn

[fallow meadow]

@strange narwhal Are you familiar with Python?

There are tools out there which allow you to decompress and compress your save files. You'd be able to edit in between that process. Only downside is the name mapping not being easy to read, but MBINC provides the mapping to compare against. So technically you could decompress the save, search for whatever you wish to edit, make the changes, compress again for use. I do advise to keep a backup of your saves prior to messing about.

[tribal helm]

what are nice mods to get for no man sky

[fallow meadow]

Plenty of nice mods, depends on what kind of mods you are looking for. With the current update, I'd suggest to browse Nexus Mods making sure you sort by 'last updated', because many mods have yet to update again to work. You can find a link to NMS Nexus Mods in one of the pins for this channel

[tribal helm]

oooooooh

okay

[fresh arch]

!faq-modding

[hardy aurora]

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<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Helpful links and tips for Modding

• [How to enable and install mods:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

• Learn how to use AMUMSS to compile mods

• [Mods do work in Multiplayer:](#nms-modding message) #nms-modding message

Always check the correct path and contents of the MODS folder! Example Image »

• Game updates can break mods - check if your mods have been updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky?tab=updated

If you experience any glitches or bugs, please remove or disable all mods and try again before reporting to HG or asking in #nms-questions.

Contributors: friendlyfirepl, .sohail, Atlas Emissaries

[fresh arch]

5th link for updated mods

[tribal helm]

ty

yeh htere are amnny updated to omega i see

i guess il wait

[fresh arch]

There are like 140 mods updated for current version of the game

Im on page 7 with 20 mods per page

Babscoole, Gumsk, Winder, Lo2k have their mods updated

Prolly the biggest names in the modding scene

Hell even Better Planet Generation got updated

[strange narwhal]

Yes I'm an advanced python user but I highly prefer a GUI. I came back to the game after a year and am wanting to redo the story 😄 but without the horrible grinding

[tribal helm]

ah okay i checked it from latest

and looked from 16 feb

im not sure what i have to look for

[fallow meadow]

I'll give you a link. It is not the best option, but it works. Normally the Save Editors are pretty reliable though. Just this update got some unexpected changes

https://gist.github.com/Chase-san/16076aaa90429ea6170550926b70f48b

[tribal helm]

oh okay so the mod page doenst sort correct for some reason

[fallow meadow]

Oh and @strange narwhal MBINC of course to grab the mapping from. https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/releases

[strange narwhal]

Oh thats interesting. Unexpected changes as in?

[tribal helm]

oh i found out why its becouse i chose latest and not updated

[fallow meadow]

Just a re-organisation within the save data

[tribal helm]

when using mods does it let me play with players that dont hve mods?

or do we both need it

[fallow meadow]

Nothing all that major, but neither save editor survived it, they should be back up in order soon again

[strange narwhal]

ooh okay

[tribal helm]

is ther any mods for interact faster?

[fallow meadow]

To both experience the same, you'd both need the mod(s) installed. You can however play with others regardless, but you will have a different experience depending on what the mod changes (it is client side changes only)

[fresh arch]

No need for a mod for faster interactions since it's a feature in vanilla

And HG has a tendency to improve the speed of various interactions with different updates

[fallow meadow]

There is this one though, and updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1081

[tribal helm]

ty

testing also better planet generation to see

[modest kiln]

Goatfungus updated

[timber plaza]

Dang that was fast

[night adder]

It's literally a matter of translating newly added section titles and accounting for the new order of savedata - not saying it wasn't quite quick, and I appreciate just as much, just pointing out it's not exactly rocket surgery, lol.

[timber plaza]

Yeah but comparing it to halo mcc mods speed which all you have to do is transfer the mod to the new patch, it's very fast

[solid hawk]

Different games work in different ways

[timber plaza]

Yeah, my standards are just slower than average

[vale iron]

To be fair, it used to take a lot longer. Mod updates have sped up a TON the past two years

The mbincompiler developers have that automated a lot, so it updates very quickly now. We have tools to batch process a ton of scripts in one go, and a few of us use batch processes to zip and name everything for upload

Uploading to Nexus is honestly the slowest part now

[glass gate]

is there a way to change which number a save file is assigned to? My main save is designated to #2, but I would like to assign it to #1

[analog kettle]

Anyone with saveditor, is it possible to change the seed of my capital freighter to a pirate freighter like we can for any other freighter?

[vale iron]

It's likely its own class, not a seed of capital

I haven't gotten to look yet though

[timber plaza]

I'm having this error with goat fungus, how do I fix it?

[timber plaza]

Turns out my java was just old

Another question, I seem to be having trouble finding my save files ( I am on PC Xbox game pass). Anyone know what to do with those for goat fungus?

[fresh arch]

!faq-savefiles

[hardy aurora]

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<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

Mac
/Users/<yourname>/Library/Application Support/HelloGames/NMS/st_<your steam ID>/

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[timber plaza]

Thank you

[wheat raven]

new update...

time to poke nms save editor thing about new stuff :v

[fresh arch]

Make sure the save editors you wanna use were updated for the last game version