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#nms-modding
round sinew
vital minnow
blam! Worked like a charm, thank you - I made the mistake of looking at the account json, not the save, which is why redeem wasn't showing up!
round sinew
nice, thanks for the confirmation, now have fun with that ship
lime mesa
does anyone know how you can change your ship colour with nms save editor
hybrid coral
does anyone know how you can change your ship colour with nms save editor
Not directly, but somewhat. Instructions on the server.
final juniper
yu nid to pay for that
candid flume
Well I've put in about 6 hours on this 16/16 quest and it's just broken for me. Is it possible to edit save to advance a quest step?
marsh eagle
yu nid to pay for that
Not at all. Anyone can edit ship colors in the json code of the savegame, we have guides over there in the saveedit channel.
You can either use goatfungus or NomNom saveeditor.
marsh eagle
Well I've put in about 6 hours on this 16/16 quest and it's just broken for me. ...
Yes for sure. The mission progress is stored in the savefile precisely. But also in this case you probably need to open the raw json edit mode of the save editor and find the mission section. But its doable
candid flume
Thanks I'll have to read up on what to look for. Downloaded some editor earlier but it wouldn't open the json
candid flume
Which editor do yall recommend for trying to access mission save data
vale iron
Goatfungus's NMS Save editor is the only one updated right now, I believe
candid flume
Thank you
final juniper
Not at all. Anyone can edit ship colors in the json code of the savegame, we hav...
oh, I was thinkin of customize bot xD
sleek sapphire
Has anyone messed with converting songs onto bybeat tapes, finding a lot of older info with not bunch on the actual process, i have song files made into 8bit ready
vale iron
Has anyone messed with converting songs onto bybeat tapes, finding a lot of olde...
I'm not aware of anyone doing that
sleek sapphire
I was gifted a bunch of pop songs and stuff like imperial March a few weeks ago and it’s peaked my interest
no good info I can find, a few bits from 2018
One of em, they require 8 bybeats to play
final juniper
Is there a mod that removes multi-tool/ships limits? @.@
solid hawk
Would have to be for personal use, if can get it to work. Can't add to NexusMods if copyrighted material. Without express written permission.
solid hawk
Is there a mod that removes multi-tool/ships limits? @.@
Increase the max numbers of each? No, hardcoded.
hearty wasp
I was gifted a bunch of pop songs and stuff like imperial March a few weeks ago ...
p sure people just do that manually
I've met some crazy people in the past
sleek sapphire
Like within the bybeat in game maker, I was lookin at it a bit idk how going about adding like 8 min+ worth for it
But thank ya I will ask around if I do find someone who’s messed with it, seems complicated
hearty wasp
don't think anyone's cracked its encoding in here or... ever
sleek sapphire
Stuff I was given was already passed down it was some older stuff who knows may be patched
candid flume
Yes for sure. The mission progress is stored in the savefile precisely. But also...
Was able to successfully reset my quest ID with json edit, thanks folks.
final juniper
With the fractal update, the ships still start counting from 3 or they do it from 1 {in the Raw JSOn- CharacterCustomisationData} am trying to do a save edit to paint mi ships like it says here: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyMods/comments/dkob5c/manual_ship_and_multitool_color_customization/
warm charm
@azure marsh I got it sorted with NomNom, thanks
azure marsh
@timid burrow
vale iron
With the fractal update, the ships still start counting from 3 or they do it fro...
It's hard to tell, looking at how they put the new ships in the save file. It looks like 3-8 are ships 1 to 6, then ships 7 to 12 start somewhere around 15 to 17. You'll have to experiment a little to find out. I'm just curious what the other two leftover numbers are for.
final juniper
Well there is also the PrimaryShip slightly above CharacterCustomisationData, but I am not shore if that number is exactly the one of the subfolder in CCD... or is the number ofship in game which would actually be 4 :-? arghhh imma make mi a backup and test cuz curiosity is murfin me
vale iron
That should be the number of the ship starting with either 0 or 1 and going up to 11 or 12
final juniper
Soo... I went for PrimaryShip = 2 Edited = 5... I guess It still starts with 3 being first ship being PrimaryShip=0 as values...
frail jolt
@vale iron Do you know which files refiner recipes are located in?
I kinda wanna get a comperhensive list of them since there's none as far as i can tell
And DHW said that cleaning that up would be a massive pain, i wanna look at it and see if i can't write a small file parser to just grab the recipes
vale iron
<@630209160860008468> Do you know which files refiner recipes are located in?
One minute, I'll look. It likely would be a massive pain
Looks like METADATA\REALITY\TABLES\NMS_REALITY_GCRECIPETABLE.MBIN
frail jolt
Are there resources here for decompiling the files? Like how to do it?
frail jolt
Thanks
vale iron
If you want other files, I use AMUMSS PC Banks Explorer to unpack and decompile the files
frail jolt
OK
Thanks!
Ill probably just check for whatever marks it as a refiner recipe and then grab stuff from around that
Oh yeah this is easy
vale iron
Looks like Cooking = False is what you want?
frail jolt
Likely yeah
The only thing ill need besides this is a map from the item IDs to actual in game names xD
Bc GAS3 isn't exactly descriptive xD
vale iron
or rather = True I mean
vale iron
frail jolt
Thanks
Like if you look further down the EXML you sent there's cooking=false stuff too
Its just a lot of the recipes are for cooking=true
Which im guessing is nutrient processor
vale iron
Yeah, that makes sense from the ingredients and results
frail jolt
Yeah
Lol i love these ingredient naes
PLANT_CAVE
PLANT_WATER
FUEL2
Very descriptive
Easy to use
vale iron
PLANT_POOP
frail jolt
xD
Now the real question is how tf do i organize this data
Ig im just gonna make a list of maps or smth
And print that out
vale iron
Looks like the False and True are cleanly divided, surprisingly, so you could just delete the top 2/3
Then work on cleaning up the remainder
frail jolt
Yeah i mean its not like the script is gonna care
xD
Im just gonna grab the result and map it to a list of ingredients i think
Should be abundantly clear from the result whether its nutrient processor or refiner, but in case theres any ambiguity ill just separate the refiner types
vale iron
Not sure if this is helpful, but I cleaned out the nutrient processor recipes and then any code lines that seemed irrelevant
frail jolt
That is helpful, thank you xD
vale iron
Oh, probably needs the Ingredients line as well
Or you can just go off what is indented further is ingredients
frail jolt
Yeah im gonna just use the ingredient line
vale iron
Man, so many recipes
final juniper
Does any1 know if theres a mod for inventory sorting?
vale iron
Does any1 know if theres a mod for inventory sorting?
No and likely can't be done
tacit island
So those altered exotics, the ones that are just a ball
Can you trade them and they stay a ball?
vale iron
Yes
tacit island
Good to know
Now to get one
hybrid coral
@hexed quartz
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2453
hexed quartz
<@1029814197124616303>
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2453
Sorry, but im on switch
hybrid coral
Rip
hollow kraken
Just an FYI, using the current "gMission No Approximate Location" mod with todays release will trash the save file. Be sure to disable that one if you are using it. (Er current meaning current on Nexus mods 408a I believe)
solid hawk
You can update the gmission mod to current yourself. Extract the contents of the .pak using psarctool. Inside you'll find the lua script. Run the script through AMUMSS and it will re-create the mod using the game files on your system.
3rd pin down in this channel, How to AMUMSS
hollow kraken
I have a feeling it's more than than that. They may have changed the format of the missions sections of the save file. Having it loaded completely changed the formatting of my save file, making all 120+ missions I have completated suddenly not completed any more 😄
I'm surprised that the plugin would have anything to do with the missions in the save file actually, but I have no idea how it really works.
solid hawk
Yeah, mission files did change, but the mod/script only changes a few values within the files, not multi-line or structures. Looks for the specific properties which control distance from location and sets the values (offsets) to 0
So, updating, only those values are changed, everything else will be 4. 13 vanilla
The reason why the nexusmods .pak messes things up, is it contains versions of the mission game files from before current changes
hollow kraken
Oh heh, yeah that makes sense then 😄
solid hawk
Once you get that lua, can open in a text editor to read what it does. Not complex gibberish code. Fairly human readable. 🙂
green prairie
unless when it's using functions
it's human readable, but not human understandable
😄
me reading Lyra's LUAs
solid hawk
unless when it's using functions
Take a look at some of lMonks scripts, especially recent ones.
small plover
Thought i ask the modding peeps, is it possible for someone to save edit a normandy as a gift, i would really like a normandy from the early expos, ps4 here.
vale iron
Thought i ask the modding peeps, is it possible for someone to save edit a norma...
No not possible, sorry
small plover
Damn...
vale iron
Just an FYI, using the current "gMission No Approximate Location" mod with today...
I just updated it. I don't have time to do everything right now, but figured I'd do that in case it was messing up save files.
small plover
Csnt exactly save edit a ps4 either huh...
vale iron
You can, but it requires a paid product to get your data into usable format
hollow kraken
I just updated it. I don't have time to do everything right now, but figured I'd...
Oh thanks! 🙂 I love the plugin, searching for the mission point on a super hilly planet in the middle of a storm has lost it's charm for me 😄
night adder
@small plover SaveWizard
fresh arch
me reading Lyra's LUAs
💯
winged canopy
Hi all I'm newbie to nms mods. i'm just curious that is it possible to populate more number of tree types (compared to default 3 tree types) in a single planet with nms mod support? also can their spawn location and number of spawns can be controlled with provided mod support?
marsh eagle
Yes to all
tidal portal
MMSCE moveable SC slots?
covert wind
Hi, I've never really use nms mods before but i'm having an issue that id really rather not have. I'm looking for a "smart inventory access" mod that always ALWAYS opens my inventory to my back packs personal inventory no matter what vehicle i'm in or what active install crafting quest is on. I know this is seems small but sometimes it really REALLY bugs me to switch 4 tabs over to switch to MY inventory because i'm in an exocraft or my multitool has a part quest. Is this something that exists?
minor niche
@dusk saffron hello
vale iron
Hi, I've never really use nms mods before but i'm having an issue that id really...
Doesn't exist, sorry
dusk saffron
@minor nichethis is the save editor to download, it will open many doors for you:
minor niche
<@663159585640546337>this is the save editor to download, it will open many door...
kk ty
minor niche
<@663159585640546337>this is the save editor to download, it will open many door...
idk wut to do with it tho
dusk saffron
@minor nicheafter you load it, we can guide you to where there are Living Ship seeds posted.... LOTS of them
covert wind
Doesn't exist, sorry
really, in all the time for nms mod there hasnt been a smart inventory fix? the game trying to "guess" what inventory i need at any given moment must be annoying to everyone
minor niche
<@663159585640546337>after you load it, we can guide you to where there are Livi...
wym load it
lik download it?
dusk saffron
@minor nichedownload the nmssavedditor.exe
lime mesa
Got my Castle and Dragon
minor niche
<@663159585640546337>download the nmssavedditor.exe
i did
minor niche
<@663159585640546337>download the nmssavedditor.exe
now what
dusk saffron
you gfirst need to establish the path to your NMS save file
minor niche
it keeps telling me to extract it and when i do it does nothing
minor niche
you gfirst need to establish the path to your NMS save file
how do i do that
dusk saffron
@minor niche
https://discord.gg/pNKVJSua
minor niche
where do i go in heere
dusk saffron
@minor nichego to the save-edit channel and I will go there
minor niche
ok
night adder
fresh arch
All of these addresses share the same system index?
night adder
@fresh arch Yes, identifiers as bot finds
west ibex
oh there is a mod channel
Is there a mod that lets you summon multiple creature companions
west ibex
shucks
karmic mirage
friends game works normally but when he adds mods the game wont launch, any ideas
steam
fresh arch
Probably mods they are using have not been updated to the latest version of the game
karmic mirage
they are same mods that i am using and works for me
fresh arch
They need to check if the mods have new versions available
karmic mirage
g custom ship, gfreighters, gship summoner and instant actions are what they trying to use, all should be recent
open wave
Hey, anyone have any idea on how to get ReShade working with NMS?
Tried installing on NMS.exe and didn't work.
timid burrow
Tried installing on NMS.exe and didn't work.
Hello, can you elaborate please?
open wave
Hello, can you elaborate please?
Yes, when I went to the ReShade website, I downloaded "ReShade with Full Addon Support", and then once downloaded I opened the program... And then it asks me what program do I want to apply the ReShade onto, and I went into my NMS folder.
Went to binaries...
And applied it on my NMS.exe
timid burrow
So far the correct approach
open wave
Started the game up ((through NMS.exe)) and it was a no-go.
open wave
So far the correct approach
Didn't work for me. 😦
timid burrow
While installation did you choose Vulkan or DirectX?
open wave
Direct X
timid burrow
NMS doesn’t use that anymore. It has shifted to Vulkan.
timid burrow
Run the same installer again, uninstall ReShade, and reinstall with Vulkan
It should work after that. And you don’t need to run the game via exe, can use the launcher/steam as well.
vale iron
g custom ship, gfreighters, gship summoner and instant actions are what they try...
Is your friend also on Steam?
I just updated the summoner. There might have been a change in 4.13. Still shouldn't be crashing, though, if on Steam. XBox Gamepass would explain it probably
karmic mirage
my friends on steam im on gamepass but we figured it out or atleast think we did, he didnt put the .lua files in
fresh arch
You don't need to put LUA files in the MODS folder
Game doesn't know what to do with them
karmic mirage
idk but he put them in and now it works
hexed kayak
In desparate need of some hhelp making a mod, should be simple I just cant find the line in the code, All i want to do is pull my MT out on stations and the anomaly to runboost, or anything of similar effect so i can go faster on the anomaly/stations than in real gameplay, any helpp iis much appreciateed
vale iron
In desparate need of some hhelp making a mod, should be simple I just cant find ...
Not possible afaik
magic lava
You just want to be able to draw your multitool in areas with other people? Sounds sus
vale iron
Even if it were possible, a responsible modder wouldn't release it
magic lava
Use your jetpack, you can build momentum from the velocity of falling
hexed kayak
I'm not looking for opinions on "why you shouldnt" these are the same responses imm getting about making my stack sizes normal in perma, 'why woould you want to' because i want to.... im looking for the line that allows me to do it
lo and bbeehold, the stack size mod does exist and the liunes are easily editable in the Gameplayglobals
vale iron
I'm not looking for opinions on "why you shouldnt" these are the same responses ...
Stack sizes mods are plentiful, multitool in restricted areas are not
hexed kayak
gumsk? you're the guy i need to talk to, ive seen all ur mods good work man
vale iron
Thank you
hexed kayak
I jsut for whatever reason cant believe its not possible, its baked into the EXE??
vale iron
Yes, as far as I've been able to tell, along with the build menu permissions
hexed kayak
even chhanginig my movement speed in said areas would work, but it doesnt look likke they're separate from meachother
i mean i coould make a ccheatengine function to change with a button prtess i guess but i dont wanna have to run it constantly either
vale iron
Yeah cheat engine might be able to do it, but I'm not really knowledgeable about that
hexed kayak
is this something the sccript extender is capabble of making happen?
vale iron
There is no functioning script extender. That died years ago
hexed kayak
bummer
vale iron
Rayrod has been doing a lot of work on something that could work but it's unreleased
hexed kayak
i dont know the firsst thing about using one to begin with tbh
appreciate the responses eeveen if theyre not the oneess i wass hoping for, keep up thhe good work man!
vale iron
Thanks and good luck finding other things you look for
hexed kayak
i appreciate it, if you run across anything that might be able to help me nnext time ur diving in feel free to DM me, anything that would work would work yknow, even if i cant draw my MT if i can melee even that would work
i jsut hate how irritating it is to get out of your ship and knkow where you're going but it takees 30 seconds to get there lbbs
dusk saffron
@vale ironis it hard to walk someone thru running a lua in AMUMSS?
fresh arch
There is a PDF available on the Nexus on how to use AMUMSS
hybrid coral
<@630209160860008468>is it hard to walk someone thru running a lua in AMUMSS?
Running a Lua on AMUMSS is easy, takes 3-4 buttons ;D
Getting everything to work before that was the tedious part 
dusk saffron
I think I have it all ready to run
hybrid coral
Ezpz then 
dusk saffron
I was going to try Gumsk's gship lua
hybrid coral
What's stopping you?
dusk saffron
guess I should read the PDF, eh
hybrid coral
In short - copy the lua(s) you want to merge or modify something with into the modscript folder and launch your buildmod.bat
dusk saffron
ok, that is the answer I didnt know, thank you
hybrid coral
dusk saffron
people that know always say "run it" but I ddint know what run it means
hybrid coral
It's a little confusing at first but once you successfully combined or modified something that actually ends up working, it's pretty self explanatory for the most part in retrospect :D
hybrid coral
thsi must not be the folder you meant
fresh arch
Yep, this one
dusk saffron
:), there it is, I see it plainly now... LOL
hybrid coral
.lua you want to use goes in there (temporarily, don't leave it in there once you're done)
fresh arch
If the mod you have has any extra files to include, like new textures
You put them in the ModExtraFilesToInclude folder
Then you run the BuildMod.bat script in AMUMSS' main folder
hearty wasp
i jsut hate how irritating it is to get out of your ship and knkow where you're ...
just use a jetpack mod
dusk saffron
@hybrid coralI think I got it right, gonna test out
hearty wasp
I made ED-E to fly fast in space station and nexus literally because it's slow as shit in vanilla
hybrid coral
<@314756064174407680>I think I got it right, gonna test out
Throw some screenshots our way, if anything is unclear.. helps
hearty wasp
people that know always say "run it" but I ddint know what run it means
think it's in the pins as well
it is
dusk saffron
@hearty waspI found the pinned for setting up the AMUMSS, and that was a godsend, so clear and easy to follow.... I missed the one on how to go from there, but I have since downloaded the PDF and will look at it
hearty wasp
cool
read the mods' descriptions to see if there's extra installation instructions as well
fresh arch
And whether the mod is compatible with new version of the game
dusk saffron
YESSSS..... I popped my f'n AMUMSS cherry today. I've wished I could grasp this stuff for months, but my covid x3 mushy brain kept getting overwhelmed and confused looking at it..... thanks you guys.... all of you, beihind the scenes that I see when I lurk to try and grasp stuff
hybrid coral
Good job
bright marten
Hey all! I'm just getting back into NMS, and plan on playing in PCVR. I wanted to try a few mods because I remember a few annoyances (like the hud being stationary, even when I turn my head) so I found a few videos/lists that do some things like that.
My question is, I see there was just a big update. Is there a way to know which mods are compatible with the Fractal update?
hallow violet
can someone help me with converting my save file from game pass to steam?
im not getting it alone >-< need help lol
fresh arch
Hey all! I'm just getting back into NMS, and plan on playing in PCVR. I wanted t...
Dunno about VR mods, for regular mods you just check if the mod has been updated recently by the author
Or you try to compile the mod yourself using AMUMSS
fresh arch
can someone help me with converting my save file from game pass to steam?
!creativehublink
hardy auroraBOT
hallow violet
whats that?
fresh arch
Try asking there in the save editor channel
bright marten
Oh nice, I'd never heard of AMUMSS before, but I'll check it out, thanks
solid hawk
Oh nice, I'd never heard of AMUMSS before, but I'll check it out, thanks
As far as VR mods go, for the most part, work the same, as they change game files. Have to be updated to current version, if the files being modified have HG changes in them.
merry wasp
think it's in the pins as well
yeah asked for it 🙂
opaque pasture
anyone got a good video showing me how to use download and use the editor? Bug took away my completed expedition rewards (5-9) So i want to unlock that again so I can start a new save with those rewards if I want
seems my account bound rewards were wiped clean when fractal came out for some reason... on my saves where i did claim some they say i have those but any i didnt claim are unavailable thus any new save has no access
solid hawk
Open NMSSaveEditor.jar, choose a save, go to Account tab on the far right. Tick boxes for the expedition items you don't have in the left box. Save the changes. If you just go to a different tab after making the changes, it'll ask if you want to save.
mint torrent
is tthere any mod for sattlement to finish building faster?
hearty wasp
searching "settlement" on Nexus will also yield multiple results
frail jolt
@vale iron Taking this here since this is a more fitting channel for it, but is it possible to make a mod that would make resource deposits have any kind of special texture in-game?
Literally any kind of texture at all that would be exclusive to them
Like the hotspot indicator texture on the HUD, except itd also be visible before you scan them
hybrid coral
<@630209160860008468> Taking this here since this is a more fitting channel for ...
frail jolt
Sorry meant hotspots
Deep level mineral deposit is why i always accidentally call them deposits
hybrid coral
frail jolt
Yeah but like is it possible to have that mod show that texture even without the analysis visor being used?
hybrid coral
Like a scanning icon without scanning above the depot?
frail jolt
Like these show up once youve scanned them
vale iron
I don't know of any way, but again, could be my lack of knowledge
hybrid coral
frail jolt
Hm
Im asking because if theres ANY way you can get a unique texture for a hotspot, you can make a thing with reshade that shows it as a heatmap on the terrain
hybrid coral
It won't magically appear in proximity, you'll still have to trigger it
but that's all there is currently
frail jolt
And you can in any case do so for the surveying device
Just, if you want it outside of the surveying device you need a texture that shows up even if the surveying device has never been opened
But as soon as you open the surveying device you have the data necessary for reshade to draw a heat map of the hotspot
hybrid coral
The scanner doesn't change the gamestate of depots
frail jolt
Yeah ik
hybrid coral
So no
frail jolt
Yes
Bc reshade allows you to pull data from existing textures and resources from in the game if you know the handles
Im not saying this is feasible to execute or that it should be done lol
All im saying is that reshade should make this possible
hybrid coral
I'm not so certain that reshade directly draws from gamefiles rather than surface level but if you're so sure, mess around with it
frail jolt
It draws from surface level stuff thats being rendered
But the surveying device marks the hotspot with a special thing as soon as its used
hybrid coral
It creates a 3D ping above it, yes
The only thing that remotely affects resource depots is the mesh around it created by the regular pulse scan (not the survey device)
hybrid coral
Then definitely no
frail jolt
OK rip
Yeah if theres no way to get something unique into the rendering pipeline about a hotspot that makes it all the way through the pipe then theres no way to mark it
mint torrent
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2067
thnx 🙂
faint tree
is there a mod that allows you to customize the look of your ship?
hearty wasp
is there a mod that allows you to customize the look of your ship?
!creativehublink
hardy auroraBOT
hearty wasp
save editing is more effective and less intrusive, ask there
and outside of colours it's the only way
bright marten
Anyone know of a mod that has the HUD follow the direction your head turns in VR? I'm actually shocked this isn't supported naturally in-game.
I found this but doesn't seem to work with the new update: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2628
lavish glade
Where/how do you find your gamepass user id for converting saves?
fallow meadow
Where/how do you find your gamepass user id for converting saves?
I think I got that covered 
lavish glade
Indeed you did
raven heart
Is there a mod that allows for freighter on freighter combat
Also do I just copy the .rar files into the mods folder?
Nvm got it
Nvm I don't
Once I select my save file it freezes
It's still playing music though
vale iron
Sounds like an out of date mod
raven heart
It just crashed
raven heart
Sounds like an out of date mod
I see
raven heart
Sounds like an out of date mod
How would I figure out what is out of date
vale iron
How many do you have?
The main way is to check what date they were last updated and make sure it was since 4.12 was released. Some mods will still be good from before then, but a lot won't be.
raven heart
How many do you have?
I installed like 8 folders but 1 has like 1 mod divided into 12 files
Dud's something
vale iron
Dud's sky isn't updated
raven heart
Unfortunate
tropic wind
trying to make my inventory the size it was pre update and didnt feel like grinding so im just using the save editor
using the save editor how do i actually unlock the slots? its allowing me to make my invneotry larger or smaller but it seems like some slots stay locked
please @ me if you have a response i dont frequent this channel
raven heart
Alr I got them working by slowly adding in the mods and running it 1 by 1
vale iron
using the save editor how do i actually unlock the slots? its allowing me to mak...
Right click the dark grey slots and choose enable, or use enable all slots
tropic wind
ty
static cloak
Dud's something
Hey, if it's the mod that I think is from DUD (dud colors) look in the comments, someone explain that this mod works perfectly if you delete the _MOD_DUD_Skies_v4081 file
Meanwhile, I will continue in the long search for a mod that improves the distance of the grass 😆
solid hawk
Meanwhile, I will continue in the long search for a mod that improves the distan...
Give https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1080 a try, see if it helps.
solid hawk
Also do I just copy the .rar files into the mods folder?
.pak files inside the archive (rar, zip, 7z) go into MODS
solid hawk
Is there a mod that allows for freighter on freighter combat
Not possible, no logic for it exists in the vanilla game and nms mods can't add logic
static cloak
Give https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1080 a try, see if it helps.
It was one of my options, unfortunately the way to increase the distance of the mod creates incompatibility with others :c
Ty anyway 
solid hawk
np sir. Enjoy. 🙂
bright marten
Apologies for the possibly ignorant question, as I'm pretty new to modding NMS haha
I'm reading the instructions for AMUMSS, and this step here: "How to Compile (Update) a SINGLE Lua File (No Mods Installed)"
Does that theoretically mean I should be able to take an out-of-date mod, download the LUA script, and use AMUMSS to update it to work in Fractals? Or at least there's a chance it'll update it?
hearty wasp
if it has a lua script, yes
solid hawk
As long as there aren't changes in the game file that would break the script, like property name change
frigid wind
Does duping work the same as before 4.0?
fresh arch
New little mod to get rid of some crappy icons: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2689
hearty wasp
Does duping work the same as before 4.0?
We don't need dupe here
Cos save editing is a thing
tidal portal
have the save editors been updated?
green prairie
goatfungus yes
tidal portal
does goat not update the github page to reflect updates?
goatfungus wont boot for mee
ree, .bat wont stay open
fallow meadow
ree, .bat wont stay open
Could you check the log file in the install location?
tidal portal
in a bit yea just got off for dinner
tidal portal
Could you check the log file in the install location?
aside from the image below i dont
fallow meadow
@tidal portal Not the changelog, the actual log file, which shows details about loading and issues
Not seeing the log file in there, maybe launch again ?
Should be called NMSSaveEditor.log
I am not seeing the config file either (NMSSaveEditor.conf)
fallow meadow
Should all be in the same location after extraction and running the NMSSaveEditor.bat
tidal portal
i run it, cmd pops up and disappears
fallow meadow
Sounds like it might be preventing to launch at all, which could be antivirus or some other security thing blocking it?
Check Windows security, see if it blocked it
You do have Java 8 64-bit installed?
tidal portal
aye
fallow meadow
Windows Security > check Protection history, see if it lists it
tidal portal
windows taking awile to load
fallow meadow
ah ok 🤪
And maybe we can get the Command Prompt to not close to see if it says anything?
tidal portal
And maybe we can get the Command Prompt to not close to see if it says anything?
i dont see it
fallow meadow
Ok, let's try and see if we can prevent the CMD window from closing
If you right-click the bat file, you can select to edit it
tidal portal
found my log but last editied 2 yrs ago
fallow meadow
Create a new line at the end that says pause
fallow meadow
found my log but last editied 2 yrs ago
In that same folder?
tidal portal
I dont think so
fallow meadow
It will always create the log in the same root/install folder
tidal portal
LOL it is
fallow meadow
But considering it never creates it, it doesn't even get that far
fallow meadow
Ok, no problem, just make sure you got the right one
tidal portal
fallow meadow
I have pretty much every version in a separate folder myself
No Man's Mods sounds more like a folder used for mods, and NMSSE makes more sense to contain the editor or versions of it.
tidal portal
oop just booted frontier's nomnom
it still closes CMD when booting NMSSaveEditor.bat
fallow meadow
And you did add the 'pause' at the very end?
tidal portal
fallow meadow
All the way at the end, just add a new line with pause and save it before trying to run again
tidal portal
??
fallow meadow
Correct, that should then end with a prompt asking to continue instead of closing out. Hopefully anyway
tidal portal
its open stilll... yey
fallow meadow
Does it say anything useful?
tidal portal
fallow meadow
Oh wow, so nothing at all
tidal portal
and when i press it closes
fallow meadow
Yeah, because that's what pause does, ask to press key to then continue, but nothing comes after so it is then done
So that's no use. Let's try something else
tidal portal
i just want nmsse to work damn it why is pain
fallow meadow
Open a new command prompt and type the following:
java -version and press enter. Screenshot it if you please.
tidal portal
fallow meadow
Ok, well ... I think you should consider installing Java, as it does not seem to show anything
Although odd it doesn't even show to not recognise the java command itself, but whatever
tidal portal
it closes quick
fallow meadow
Go here and install Java > Windows Offline (64-bit)
https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
Once installed you can try again. The added 'pause' line in the batch file can be removed again. If it fails again, show me the java -version once more.
fallow meadow
Hmmm, weird. Can you open up Control Panel > Programs
You should see Java, next to the options to show other Programs and Features
fallow meadow
If you click Java there, it should open up the Java Control Panel
Select the Java tab
Then click 'View...'
tidal portal
fallow meadow
Ok, that looks perfectly fine
What happens if you just double-click the NMSSaveEditor.jar?
fallow meadow
Ah great, I did notice the WinRar icon showing for .jar files
No wonder it does nothing.
tidal portal
extraction right?
fallow meadow
No, we need to remove the file association for .jar files
Technically .jar can also be a package which WinRar could work with, but in this case it can not, and requires to be associated with Java instead
Let's try something first though
Go to the NMSSaveEditor.jar and right-click to select 'Open with'
Then you need to select Java
See if that makes it run at least
fallow meadow
That highlighted option should do it I think, else you can check 'More apps'
tidal portal
its not opening
fallow meadow
How about uninstalling WinRAR and Java, which should remove any .jar association. Then install Java again (you already have the download). Then it should work. If it then does, getting WinRAR back is easy and free from Windows anyway
fallow meadow
I think what happened is an attempt to run the .jar, showing a prompt to select what to open it with. Then WinRAR has been selected and Windows turned it into a file association. So now everytime you open a .jar, it tries to run it with WinRAR
tidal portal
can i change that at all without uninstalls?
fallow meadow
We can fix it in other ways, but I prefer to avoid doing registry edits
fallow meadow
I am sorry it has been a pain so far, but I am pretty confident of this being the issue.
devout lynx
guys what to do if i cant save changed i did in save editor?
bc i cant do this
i press save changes but it dont save
vale iron
Make sure you are getting the correct save, the auto or the restore point. Does the timestamp on the save file show the updated time in the loading screen?
hearty wasp
Could also be a permission issue
Or maybe you had the game open when you were doing the edits
merry wasp
it aint running reeee
Master 
tidal portal
Master <:squinteyes:672830998806790183>
its how it downloaded idk y
even the zip file is -master idk
devout lynx
Or maybe you had the game open when you were doing the edits
game wasnt open when i edited
i choosed the correct save
but when i edited my other save
it worked
hearty wasp
Can be a Steam cloud thing if you have cloud saves turned on
You can try yeeting one of the saves in the save slot you intend to edit before editing it
slate crow
so i downloaded a mod called commercialism or something like that, that allows you to buy more items from the quicksilver store. i tried buying some items including the solar helmet, yet i cannot find it in the customization menu, what do i do here? have i messed up somehow?
hearty wasp
so i downloaded a mod called commercialism or something like that, that allows y...
Are you using anomaly race
dusk summit
Anyone know if 1.11.5 is the latest version of GoatFungus save editor? It says 2 weeks ago on github.
https://github.com/goatfungus/NMSSaveEditor
slate crow
Are you using anomaly race
ye
ive tried changing to other races though, none seem to have the helmet
i only have the 20 helmets show up, not the solar one
hearty wasp
i only have the 20 helmets show up, not the solar one
It's the 21st one apparently
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/1c2cb6_912931f9b2e841afbd1b6372d2589c89~mv2.png/v1/fill/w_1920,h_1080,al_c,q_95,enc_auto/Solar Helmet.png
slate crow
It's the 21st one apparently
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/1c2cb6_912931f9b...
yeah i saw that image, but it doesnt show up on my menu at all
ive tried restarting the game a few times, rechecked the quicksilver store, its there and its registered as purchased, still nothing
hearty wasp
I just checked the files and apparently HG just hates you because they hid it in the customiser
So you should just use Getting Head instead
slate crow
So you should just use Getting Head instead
whats that?
slate crow
So you should just use Getting Head instead
ahhh yeah, ive heard that doesnt work on the anomaly though
hearty wasp
Yeah I should update that mod someday
You can wait a week or just play as another race for now
slate crow
You can wait a week or just play as another race for now
ok i installed it, but i cant seem to see anything new in the customization menu
slate crow
yeah i figured it out eventually hahahaa
shy grove
@vale iron Will it be helpful to pin it here? And if so, is there any other information you'd want to add to it here? 
I want to make sure it's not lost. Gleam and I were trying to make room for a pin.
Substances Tab
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J8WdrubKgo8A9hPY-hbQLq4eVrb3n3lZAgiI2J7ncAU/edit#gid=0
vale iron
I'll try to type something later today that's more descriptive
hybrid coral
Anyone using Reshade for Ambient Occlusion?
My filter somehow unalived itself with the .14 update for no conceivable reason 
tidal portal
Anyone know if 1.11.5 is the latest version of GoatFungus save editor? It says 2...
ye its updated
vale iron
Use the NMS Extracted Tables to lookup the full text name and other properties associated with a game file object ID.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J8WdrubKgo8A9hPY-hbQLq4eVrb3n3lZAgiI2J7ncAU/edit#gid=0
shy grove
timid burrow
Hello friend-entities 
I've found a rather interesting change in custom ship coloring via Raw JSON.
The AltID for "Custom_Torso" (undercoat color) used to be Primary.
It's not working as intended, results in a teal/greenish blue color.
I changed the value to Alternative1 and it resulted in desired color.
solid hawk
Nice catch
night adder
I just use the applicable palettes, directly manipulating undercoat primary instead.
timid burrow
Aye! Everything’s working as intended now.
magic lava
Traveller, you appear to have a rasa problem
dusk saffron
that purple would look good on proteus hoppers, too
devout lynx
who understands the save editor?
hearty wasp
who understands the save editor?
!creativehublink
hardy auroraBOT
hearty wasp
people over there does
devout lynx
thanks
surreal cape
Can someone tell me where to find the save editor and how to use it?
fallow meadow
Can someone tell me where to find the save editor and how to use it?
You can check the pins for links. Would currently recommend NMSSE (goatfungus)
fallow meadow
Can someone tell me where to find the save editor and how to use it?
As for how to use it, you can use the default features it comes with, which explain themselves mostly, or you can decide to go advanced with the Raw JSON editor. Depends what you are trying to accomplish
surreal cape
Will i be able to make my restore point my autosave? I need the save editor just so i can leave my current state of crashing on launch due to a complicated base i am in
fallow meadow
Will i be able to make my restore point my autosave? I need the save editor just...
You wish to force the manual/restore save to load?
surreal cape
I mean. The game autosaves after a teleport right? So that means that if i load my restore point instead i wont be in the region that causes the crash
fallow meadow
First make a backup of your main save folder, just in case. Then you do not even need a Save Editor to do just that
surreal cape
Oh? Everyone told me i need one.
fallow meadow
!faq-savefiles
hardy auroraBOT
to view, enable Link Preview 
Steam 
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...
Game Pass 
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...
GoG 
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...
Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...
When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).
fallow meadow
Every save slot comes with 2 saves. You can delete one of the saves, so it will load the other.
surreal cape
Which one is the autosave? I see mf saves and saves
fallow meadow
On Steam you'd have to remove 2 files, because it also has an mf_ counterpart
uneven is auto, manual/restore is even. save.hg is auto slot 1, save2.hg is manual slot 1, save3.hg is auto slot 2, save4.hg is manual slot 2, save5.hg is auto slot 3, etc...
So if slot 1, save.hg and mf_save.hg are both the auto
save2.hg and mf_save2.hg is manual/restore for slot 1
Can check time/date to know which was latest
surreal cape
So in my case which is slot 1 i have to delete mf save and save to appear in the restore point?
fallow meadow
yes, if you delete those 2, it will load the manual/restore save when selected
Make sure to load to the game menu first, then delete, just in case Steam Cloud tries to re-sync
surreal cape
Ok. I hope it works
fallow meadow
Let me know. If not we can try other solutions
surreal cape
Oki^^
Ok the game is loading. I just need to wait for it to finish loading to see if it worked. (My pc is old so it takes a bit to load)
surreal cape
Let me know. If not we can try other solutions
You are the best^^ thank you!
surreal cape
Let me know. If not we can try other solutions
Can i sent you a friend request? I wont bother you at all. I just wanna he friends with the person that saved my save file^^
fallow meadow
Can i sent you a friend request? I wont bother you at all. I just wanna he frien...
I wont bother you at all
Then what is the point ? 🙄 ... lol
surreal cape
I see. Sorry
fallow meadow
I see. Sorry
Nah, no need to be sorry at all.
True friends should bother you all the time right? In a good way I mean ... I am sorry though, I don't easily add friends on here, but who knows
west cargo
hello may i have some suggestion on some good mods to use?
vale iron
Typically we just recommend people go to Nexusmods and sort by last updated. If you want a list of updated mods, here are mine and Lo2k's mods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1541/
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/880
@west cargo
west cargo
okay wiill do thanks question this both.works on xbox game pass version ?
vale iron
Yes, it should
west cargo
thx
ruby torrent
I miss this mod it haven't been updated since 2019 I use to love the colors from this mod. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/947
I wonder why that person stopped updating it.
lime mesa
Hey👋
vale iron
Hello
lime mesa
Sooooo is there a mod or something that can completely overhaul the base components to something (to my liking) while leaving the body
vale iron
You want to change the parts on creatures but leave the body the same, right?
lime mesa
well Not me particularly but yes
vale iron
There is not one, but it might be possible. You would need to change the descriptors for one or more creatures so it could have different body parts
lime mesa
Is it possible for one specific animal or the whole race?
vale iron
Something like that would change all the animals of that type. If you want to make a specific animal, you would need save editing I believe
vale iron
!creativehublink
hardy auroraBOT
lime mesa
Wait do I need the game download on the pc or can I move it with a usb?
vale iron
If you have savewizard I think it's called, you decrypt your PS4 data, transfer it to PC with a USB, save edit it (no need to have the game installed, I think), then transfer it back
lime mesa
screw SaveWizard
vale iron
Then you need to get someone to save edit you a creature and give you an egg
lime mesa
Hmm Oki
lime mesa
screw SaveWizard
Just don’t like it because the keys and slots are kinda expensive
vale iron
@timid burrow Blender doesn't handle one of the DDS formats, BC7 I think, which would be most of the newer stuff, so you just get magenta instead of textures. If the model viewer is working still, it handles it
timid burrow
Oh, I see.
BC7...
Umm! I remember some resources for modding Skyrim that also used bc7 encryption.
Let me find something real quick.
timid burrow
<@307367785246228480> Blender doesn't handle one of the DDS formats, BC7 I think...
If you also use blender, can you test this when you have some free time?
https://github.com/matyalatte/Blender-DDS-Addon
fallow meadow
Correct, BC7 is the problem one, although DDS is not supported it can handle mostly
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/files/media/image_formats.html
timid burrow
Yeah! It is a bit disheartening to find NMS uses BC7 encoding which cannot be decoded in native blender.
vale iron
It's a mix, NMS isn't really consistent in anything :/
timid burrow
I was using a similar addon for blender to decode/open and encode/pack BC7 files way back when I used to mod Skyrim.
fallow meadow
It is disheartening that Blender does not support DDS to be honest
timid burrow
I agree.
Since I am not at the PC currently, I request if either of you guys can test the addon I've shared above.
Who knows, it might solve this bottleneck.
vale iron
Pure metallic was a bit too much. I need to look at the golden vector map and mimic that
fallow meadow
Oh I had a look at that addon, it converts to TGA, basically not working well with how we use NMSDK
timid burrow
I see, well that's a closed door then, sadly.
fallow meadow
Could still be somewhat useful, but on the side
timid burrow
Mhmm! There are also other software that handles BC7... What if we utilize the same steps used in modding Skyrim. Open and edit files in a different software, export them with correct encoding/compression, inject them in the SKD?
Krita, for example, handles BC7 files.
Although I don't know how versatile NMSDK is.
fallow meadow
NMSDK I believe is not made to work with converted textures to be able to get reliable exports that re-convert it back to DDS
As said, this does not mean these tools are not useful as an intermediate.
timid burrow
Interesting.
Well, even without the versatility modders like friend-entity Gumsk are surely a boon to the community. 
vale iron
Even with the GV masks, the metallic is a bit overpowering still. Need to tone it down some
timid burrow
Oh wow! That’s a huge difference from earlier.
Do agree with toning down the metallicity.
fallow meadow
Mirror mirror on the wall ...
timid burrow
Lol
fresh arch
Sorry to butt in but I need some opinions, too aggressive or not aggressive enough?
vale iron
Just right
timid burrow
Perfect
fallow meadow
What happened to Rick?
fresh arch
There are 36 death messages, I gonna be creative
fallow meadow
Ah, cool
timid burrow
lol
fallow meadow
I wonder, did they ever fix that typo?
fresh arch
What typo?
timid burrow
Curious to know too.
fallow meadow
'Kurt Vonneugt'
timid burrow
Doesn’t ring a bell 😦
fallow meadow
Should be Kurt Vonnegut
fresh arch
It should yeah
I can include it in the other mod
@fallow meadow if you know any other typos or misleading text, feel free to hit me up with it
fallow meadow
So the typo is still present?
fresh arch
Im also working on a mod that aims to fix various text inconsistencies and misleading stuff
Like the exomech AI module mentioning mining activities
fallow meadow
<@212373250334785538> if you know any other typos or misleading text, feel free ...
ok, will try to remind myself. I am sure there are others
timid burrow
I have been at it since you’ve shared the info. Gotta keep a keen eye.
vale iron
The utopia speeder saying it has radiation shielding and maneuvers better in atmosphere
timid burrow
Hmm! In game experiences don’t agree with the statement.
But there’s no real scale to measure maneuverability/handling in atmosphere, is there?
Also, well… at 2717 maneuverability I doubt it even matters.
vale iron
It just has high maneuverability due to the installed mods. Otherwise it's no different from a stock fighter
vale iron
I know DHW has disagreed with that in the past, but there's just nothing in the files to support it having any different handling
fresh arch
So the typo is still present?
fallow meadow
timid burrow
I know DHW has disagreed with that in the past, but there's just nothing in the ...
Precisely. From what I’ve seen there’s no difference other than a unique seed and a fixed design. Even the base stat rolls are fixed for everyone, and there are no special modules preinstalled in the ship.
timid burrow
Heh. That’s comical.
fallow meadow
Nice, like I said, there are likely quite a few. Not to mention the other languages
timid burrow
Sorry to change the subject but can someone please enlighten me why does the game changes “Infra-Knife Accelerators” to “Laser something” occasionally when the ship is parked?
fresh arch
Actually it might be worth seting up a github for that
vale iron
Better
timid burrow
Ooh! Much better
vale iron
I wish it weren't so low tri-count. Those circles are really rough
timid burrow
24 sides is it?
vale iron
Looks like it at times
Ok, time to re-save all my exhaust effect images. They were all SRGB and need to be Linear
First time I've had that cause a problem
vale iron
That purple is still surprisingly bright and a bit red
Could be my laptop though, I'm never sure
timid burrow
Oh my phone it does look bright, but it also looks very saturated. Although it’s not shifting towards red.
vale iron
I'll try toning down the brightness some more and the saturation a touch
timid burrow
Mhmm!
dusk saffron
I'd take that color on the new speeder, or a royal
vale iron
I thought about reskinning the speeder, but it's not super easy
This one I did in an hour or so last night, plus tweaking tonight
If the racing stripes weren't there, it would be a lot easier
Oooh, I could make a metallic version of the speeder
dusk saffron
it would work well on a proteus hopper, also
fresh arch
Right of the gate I let you know I have 0 experience with github when it comes to branches / merges and shit
solar sorrel
is there a mod to play offline past expeditions?
i found this one: https://chrisn1992.github.io/Expedition-Replay-NMS/
hearty wasp
Sorry to butt in but I need some opinions, too aggressive or not aggressive enou...
Bitchin fr, are they in mbins or just textures?
I wanna add one that says "mods work in multiplayer"
fresh arch
MBINs, they are plain text
hearty wasp
Alright cool cool
fresh arch
Quote is one field, Author is another
And yes, you need to use caps to have caps show up on screen
hearty wasp
So everything's in all caps?
fresh arch
Yes
hearty wasp
Lmao
fresh arch
If you use small letters, you get small letters which dont look so good IMO
hearty wasp
Why use uppercase function when caps lock exist I guess
fresh arch
Less points of failure in your code
fresh arch
I have a couple ideas already, but Im always looking for more 😄
hearty wasp
In any case it's a good find
hearty wasp
i found this one: https://chrisn1992.github.io/Expedition-Replay-NMS/
That's the simplest way tbh
hearty wasp
Even with the GV masks, the metallic is a bit overpowering still. Need to tone i...
May wanna tune down smoothness a bit instead
vale iron
May wanna tune down smoothness a bit instead
Yeah, did that some too, but didn't get the results I wanted really
hearty wasp
Although I don't know how versatile NMSDK is.
Texture wise it's messy since one of the textures is in fact 3(or 4) textures and NMSDK doesn't automatically combine them
And when you need that texture map you'll likely need to re-export the other ones in the material for stability anyway
hearty wasp
Yeah, did that some too, but didn't get the results I wanted really
What's the intended result tho
I jist assumed you want it more metallic than vanilla but not mirror shine lol
solar sorrel
That's the simplest way tbh
ah thanks ^ ^
vale iron
Yeah, later versions were closer to desired effect. I turned up roughness some, it's ok now I think
hearty wasp
Cool cool
vale iron
I don't think there's much demand for robo-warden skins anyway, so not really a big deal
I might try making metallic speeders tomorrow
That would probably be more popular
timid burrow
Texture wise it's messy since one of the textures is in fact 3(or 4) textures an...
I see! Interesting to know they’re used a single UV tile to pack multiple textures.
hearty wasp
I mean it's the same UV lol
It's just using different channels for different greyscale textures
timid burrow
Yup! Yup, I figured. I haven’t tried modding game objects like friend-entity Gumsk, yet, but I’m interested in this. All knowledge is good knowledge.
vale iron
HG likes to use non-standard channels for various things, at least as far as I can tell from my research
vale iron
Everytime I'm away from it for more than a couple of weeks, I always forget and have to look eveyrthing up again
timid burrow
Yeah, it’s very unintuitive
They’re using per channel basis for entire effects/objects
hearty wasp
Everytime I'm away from it for more than a couple of weeks, I always forget and ...
That's mainly why I update the texture page whenever it gets changed
Cos if I don't I literally forget 80% of it
fallow meadow
I have a couple ideas already, but Im always looking for more 😄
How about adding some fun source code comments that have been found? I think the modding discord may have a few with some searching?
fresh arch
Define "fun source code"
I wouldnt like to discredit HG in any way
And let the one who hasn't slipped "FIX THIS FUCKING SHIT" in their commits be the first to throw the stone
fallow meadow
I wouldnt like to discredit HG in any way
Oh totally understand that
why is this needed?! we will NEVER NEVER know.
Just an idea and I think some could actually be pretty funny in a good way
fresh arch
Im always open for ideas
I was thinking of something like || NOW ENTERING GALAXY 257 - YILSRUSSIMIL PLEASE FASTEN YOUR SEATBELTS. ||
fallow meadow
You may actually like the simple json edit to change the names for star systems that pass by during startup too?
fresh arch
You know what I was thinking about making a rick roll mod for that screen / sequence
Since I found some JSON with buncha names?
fallow meadow
Ahuh, in the cache folder?
fallow meadow
correct
fresh arch
I think it was in UI though
Since I was looking through UI files to get rid of that stupid fucking cursor slow down fuckign why you put it like who the fuck benefits from having to overcompensate
fallow meadow
It is in the saves location inside the cache folder, where all those DDS images are as well
fresh arch
sorry got carried away
fallow meadow
INTRO_FEED_CACHE.JSON
fresh arch
This is very tempting but I already have a couple WIPs
fallow meadow
Although most likely with the source files too, same as the default save data and all those
fresh arch
Yes desktop version control best version control dont @ me
I just wanna finish at least one and be done with it
Text fixes sounds to be a longer project
Super Serious Death Messages was just a fun idea
But I'm glad it takes some traction
Oooohh I just had an idea
Holy crap if this works
green prairie
make one telling people to read the shiphud.mbin file
sonic yoke
Hello would someone saveedit a ship for me? Would be nice.
hearty wasp
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/853
AMUMSS Lua script - updated for use with AMUMSS 4.1.1.0 and up, added new helmet IDs from NMS 4.10, minor optimisations, added user input elements
Classics B - Added Solar Helmet to Anomaly
someone wanted this like a week or less ago I think
dusk saffron
someone wanted this like a week or less ago I think
seems like there was a convo over in the creative discord over one of the helmets of a Fifth NPC
hearty wasp
no someone asked me specifically here because I recommended Getting Head for em
green prairie
I thought solar was already out there, or it was because of consumerism that I could get it
hearty wasp
apparently solar helmet is hidden from the customisation menu or someshit
if I am to edit more files I can make em appear but why bother
solid hawk
Even if it's not perfect, getting some head is better than getting no head
...in a modding context, of course
dusk saffron
If-I-were-a-modder... I would see if Sasquatch could be used somehow in NMS 🙂
worldly sphinx
howdy folks, I've got a super simple question, are there any mods that alter the way you control your ship while its flying?
I'm finding the PC controls to be highly detestable.
spark lance
@worldly sphinx settings > controls > ship control style: locked
no MOD's necessary
worldly sphinx
That is definitely better, but
I still wonder if there's a mod to change it to how I'd like it exactly
spark lance
I came from Elite Dangerous... I can relate!
worldly sphinx
thats
spark lance
NMS has an arcade type of flight control, cant change tht
worldly sphinx
honestly very surprising to hear actually
I would have expected, if anything, the chain of games of "space commerce and travel" to be NMS first and Elite Dangerous second
Considering just how much more thorough and indepth that game is
spark lance
I didnt mean it tht way... I play "all" space related games
worldly sphinx
ahh
spark lance
I didnt mean it... "I quit ED to play NMS"... no, I just play everything space related!
worldly sphinx
but yeah, you seem to know exactly what my greivance with the flight controls are immediatelly even though I didnt explain it at all,
yes, it is exactly cuz it feels like you're using a mouse to control a joystick
spark lance
yeah the locked setup makes it much better
you just need to get used to the controls after tht
Star Citizens flys like NMS
worldly sphinx
not really a fan, I'd really just rather like.....if I move the mouse, move the ship, and if I stop moving the mouse, the ship stops moving
spark lance
X4 Foundations flys like NMS/SC as well
actually X4 is a mix between SC and ED... disregard tht
anyway... switch to locked controls which makes it much better
and keep in mind if you need to turn sharply, you can brake
meaning... if u need to 90/180 degree turn... Hold S and point up
the ship will respond much faster
worldly sphinx
yeah this is a huge improvement, I can definitely work with this
spark lance
(ENG is my 3rd language)
worldly sphinx
couldnt tell at all, so you're fine ^^
spark lance
lets go bck to #no-mans-sky
worldly sphinx
fwiw I do actually still think I wanna mod the game
the main culprit is the ridiculous take off cost, I saw a mod that can either remove it entirely or lower it to something reasonable like 5%
25% makes me feel punished for wanting to explore
how hard is it to mod the steam version of the game?
@spark lance
vale iron
how hard is it to mod the steam version of the game?
Not too hard. There's a huge repository of scripts you can use as examples
And that kind of mod would be very simple
worldly sphinx
I dont know anything about modding this game, so that more or less sounds like computer-nonsense to me XD
but yeah, functionally, at least at the moment, literally the only thing I want is to not feel so penalized for taking off
vale iron
I can make that mod for you if you want, but if you want to make it yourself, here's the modding discord link
!moddinglink
hardy auroraBOT
worldly sphinx
Wha?
No it already exists, I'm 99% sure
I saw it on the nexus
I just dont know how to install them
fresh arch
vale iron
Sorry, misunderstood. I thought you wanted to start making mods
fallow meadow
@rose tundra In regards to Offline Expeditions, are you familiar with this, possibly of use to you?
https://chrisn1992.github.io/Expedition-Replay-NMS/
As for making edits to expedition saves, I might be bale to help out.
versed flax
in the middle if tryign to save edit and i cant find the hello games folder
fallow meadow
in the middle if tryign to save edit and i cant find the hello games folder
What platform?
!faq-savefiles
hardy auroraBOT
to view, enable Link Preview
Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...
Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...
GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...
Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...
When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).
versed flax
xbx
fallow meadow
3 times a charm
versed flax
with gamepass
fallow meadow
Mind you, the %LocalAppData% is a system variable, that can be used. It usually means c drive, users, username, AppData, Local
fallow meadow
If you are adding the path for use in save editor, you may have to go one more folder in, being one with large alphanumerical name, having the 'container' info inside
fallow meadow
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...
fallow meadow
like very new just learning
No problem, we all have to start somewhere. Any questions, just ask
versed flax
im in packages yet still fant find hello games
fallow meadow
Are you normally on Xbox Console?
versed flax
yes
fallow meadow
Did the files actually sync to PC, using the Cloud
rose tundra
<@204178303941214208> In regards to Offline Expeditions, are you familiar with t...
This is really interesting! I'm actually curious how they do the 'instant complete' function here though. I've restarted exp6 on my third time right now. I'd much rather get back to the game I love, and stop trying to cheese grind my way through something I'm not even supposed to be allowed to do haha
Have you tried instant-completion with this method?
rose tundra
I was on the wrong user lol
what? this information seems relevant to me lol
fallow meadow
This is really interesting! I'm actually curious how they do the 'instant comple...
Easy enough once you know what save data is required for completion. So basically it provides a download I guess with completion values
versed flax
No im doing a thing
rose tundra
Easy enough once you know what save data is required for completion. So basicall...
oh, I see haha. Welp, 🎲 rolling the bones on the shady link, boys
versed flax
`%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\.....
can i type this into my run?
fallow meadow
can i type this into my run?
You can just click search and copy the exact text, yes
well, without the ... at the end
versed flax
gotcha
fallow meadow
It does recognise %LocalAppData%, no problem
rose tundra
can i type this into my run?
honestly, I've had trouble doing this with minecraft haha
I'd simply do
'control button' and 'R' at the same time. Punch in %appdata%
then use the search button when the file explorer opens up to search (without quotes):
"HelloGames"
versed flax
Hellogames isnt popping up…
fallow meadow
You did install the Game Pass version using the account and made sure the files have been synced to your PC, right?
fallow meadow
You said you normally play on Xbox, correct?
versed flax
I do
fallow meadow
This means you can get the game on PC with Game Pass version.
versed flax
I have to download it on pc dont I
fallow meadow
To then get those save files on your PC, it needs to sync the Xbox account
You can not directly get to any saves on the Xbox itself
rose tundra
oh man, I did not realize you were on xbox. My advice here may not at all be correct lol
versed flax
this better be worth it
fallow meadow
You do not really have to be able to play the game on PC, but it does require PC to get to the saves
Also make sure the Cloud is all setup correctly. Not too sure how this works, as I do not own Xbox myself
rose tundra
<@204178303941214208> In regards to Offline Expeditions, are you familiar with t...
Bro, you just saved my night my mans. Finally got the outlaw loot using the instant completion glitch bc the standard trick had some broken phases on it. Would not have been able to get it without this
versed flax
You do not really have to be able to play the game on PC, but it does require PC...
do i have to buy seperate gamepasses?
fallow meadow
do i have to buy seperate gamepasses?
No, you own the game on Xbox, which means you own it on Game Pass too. Just have to use the same account and get it installed
@versed flax Also this, check Games and apps:
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/games-apps/my-games-apps/all-about-pc-gaming
versed flax
WOWWW it jusf gave me gsmepass for my pc
fallow meadow
WOWWW it jusf gave me gsmepass for my pc
hehe
versed flax
uninstalling some stuff for nms
but theoretically speaking i feel guilty
i dont wwnt to be known as a cheater
i just want to have fun
and explore
fallow meadow
but theoretically speaking i feel guilty
I can understand how you may have expected different in this day and age, but in all honesty, it's how it should be imo
versed flax
So your saying its fine if i do?
fallow meadow
Maybe I misunderstood, I thought you felt guilty because Microsoft allows you to get it for free on PC, after having paid for it on Xbox
As for cheating, you'd only be doing this to yourself. It's all on your own client
worldly sphinx
!faq-savefiles
hardy auroraBOT
to view, enable Link Preview
Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...
Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...
GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...
Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...
When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).
fallow meadow
@versed flax As long as whatever you edit/mod is still vanilla, it will be visible to others. There is a nice post about it in the pins.
fallow meadow
!faq-savefiles
We'd prefer if you run bot commands for yourself in #bot-spam
versed flax
so once NMS gets done do i have to run it to get my files or
worldly sphinx
if im installing a mod am I only putting the .pak file or do I also put the .lua file?
fallow meadow
so once NMS gets done do i have to run it to get my files or
You'd have to look up the specifics for how the Cloud actually works, but I believe, once installed and logged in through the Xbox App to launch the game, it will do the syncing
vale iron
if im installing a mod am I only putting the .pak file or do I also put the .lua...
Just the pak
worldly sphinx
cool ty
versed flax
@fallow meadow okay irs done downloading!
GOT THE HELLOGAMES FOLDER FINALLY
now do I download nom nom?
fallow meadow
now do I download nom nom?
Yes, you can either use NomNom, or NMSSE, or both.
There is a pin with links
versed flax
which one is simpler
fallow meadow
which one is simpler
Both are pretty equal, but NomNom has more features, and more planned for the future. My personal preference is NMSSE, but both are fine and work in similar ways
fallow meadow
should i close my NMS on xbox?
I would close the game when editing on Game Pass, to allow it to sync properly
fallow meadow
I don't think you said what you were planning to edit, but do ask if you need any assistance
fallow meadow
You can check the installed programs, or check the install location
@versed flax Windows folder > Microsoft.NET folder > Framework folder
Although, now I wonder if v6 would even show there
I guess Control Panel > Programs and Features would be easier
versed flax
didnt have it
vale iron
There's a command line that shows all the installed .Net versions, but I can't remember it right now, going to look (even though I know it's resolved for this issue)
fallow meadow
That is a registry check in CMD, right?
I usually avoid those
reg query "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Net Framework Setup\NDP" /s
vale iron
dotnet --list-runtimes
fallow meadow
Ah, or that 👍
vale iron
Yeah, I don't like the reg query version
vale iron
Yes you can
dusk saffron
I uploaded a bunch of my fave system freighters at the creative hub, but most players want the big capital ones, so they can smack into masts 🙂
versed flax
Im on the home screen now
trying to grt my platform
I crashed it…
Uh oh
Wait nvm i think i got it
versed flax
I need some helo if anyone’s alive right now and knows how to use nomnom
magic lava
Is that even updated?
vale iron
NMSSE is more updated
fallow meadow
Is the other one updated?
What do you need help with?
There is one thing both editors have an issue with and that is the new Robo Companion. Other than that the editors work fine, with NMSSE having updated part of the name mappings, while NomNom has not for quite some time
fallow meadow
After saving in the editor, launching the game should force to sync the local changes to the cloud again
Or are you asking about the Account Data specifically, instead of Save Data?
versed flax
Im going to try to losd up nms to see if my stuff is there
fallow meadow
Im going to try to losd up nms to see if my stuff is there
I believe the syncing is actually done as soon as you 'log-in' on the platform for the game
fallow meadow
What are you actually trying to do?
If you are giving yourself rewards, the feature allows to enable them for claiming. You still have to visit the QS bot in the Anomaly to actually redeem. If this is Twitch Rewards, this has to be done with internet disconnected.
versed flax
i tried to give myself some units
fallow meadow
The rewards are added through the Account Data, not the save file, when using the features for it
versed flax
so what do i do then
fallow meadow
Ah, Units. That would be on the save. Alter the value, make sure to save after. Get it to sync and check in-game. Should work that way
I am not sure what steps you are taking to make the change to be able to tell where it might be going wrong
Let's go step by step. Which editor are you using?
versed flax
nomnom
fallow meadow
And lets's actually go to #964865106334875698
magic lava
Yeah we block everyone and here pings. What exactly are you trying to get?
gloomy pier
I would really not suggest pinging the server over wanting a modded ship
sonic yoke
like I would like a living ship, utopia speeder or square cockpit only ship.
gloomy pier
do the expedition for the speeder. do starbirth for a living, and the last one ive got no clue about
magic lava
I can tell you that no one in this channel is going to give you those. You should try offering something in #nms-lfg-or-trades
Even if it's just time
sonic yoke
do the expedition for the speeder. do starbirth for a living, and the last one i...
No no Just the cockpit of them.
Like a ball ship but with living square or utopia head.
gloomy pier
those dont exist, nor will anybody give you one
magic lava
Check out this server, you can use a bot to get some of these things
!creativehublink
hardy auroraBOT
magic lava
Not the weird hybrid ship you are asking about though
sonic yoke
Not the weird hybrid ship you are asking about though
hybrid?
gloomy pier
Like a ball ship but with living square or utopia head.
/\
magic lava
Oh I see, you just want the cockpit of those, not combined
The ball is doable there, dunno about the others
sonic yoke
I saw gold vector.
gloomy pier
not surprising. it was the reward for expedition 1
sonic yoke
cockpit
gloomy pier
save editing aint a mod. its just messing with the files to get what you want
sonic yoke
Yes I just wanna get one.
magic lava
Check out that server I linked
It will not only explain how to do those things, it has a process to just get them delivered
gloomy pier
you could save edit a ship you have to do that, but it would be near impossible to find one of a living ship or the speeder
sonic yoke
nice but under modding
marsh eagle
You can get the ball ships for free with the automatic ship delivery bot which works for all plattforms: https://nms.center/ServiceBot
gloomy pier
they want a ship thats only the cockpit of the speeder or a living ship
fresh arch
Question: has anyone checked if this guide by @waxen cedar (#nms-modding message) is still valid today?
marsh eagle
No t possible. These are all melted into one scene without chance to seperate
fresh arch
I was trying to use the BULLETPOINT tag and it was not working for me
Other tags like BULLETPOINT_OFF or DIAMONDBULLET work fine
magic lava
The technique is accurate yeah, whether all those are still in or not I have no clue
marsh eagle
I was trying to use the BULLETPOINT tag and it was not working for me
Yes it is and works. In fact the servicebot I linked above uses it for his messages to the players using it
sonic yoke
Yes it is and works. In fact the servicebot I linked above uses it for his messa...
Also I have a friend that got ruined by bots because he did the job before bots 😦
fresh arch
sonic yoke
What is the seed though?
marsh eagle
Also I have a friend that got ruined by bots because he did the job before bots ...
Oh I see. It's the course of human development unfortunately. Bots work more efficient and 24hours. There are human ship delivery services for nms and I support them heavily. But they always have the timezone problem so I came up with this bot
sonic yoke
So what is the seed @marsh eagle
marsh eagle
The seed only defines the color in this case not the model form