nms-modding

[hearty wasp]

I assume you've looked into this https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:The_Modding_Basics

[solid hawk]

Many start out with Modding Station. Amumss is a tool to develop, update, and combine mods via scripts. There's info on that too at stepmod

You've got options. 🙂

[somber current]

i put both lua scripts in the ModScript folder and the BUILDMOD.bat isn't doing anything

[hearty wasp]

what happens when you double click the bat file

[somber current]

it just shows AMUMSS version

[hearty wasp]

May need to turn off your antivirus

[solid hawk]

Also, look in the report.lua (or log.lua, which is more detailed) file at the root of your AMUMSS folder. Check the doc I posted above, #nms-modding message, that you didn't skip anything in setting up.

If you run Test_AMUMSS_install.bat in your AMUMSS, it'll tell you if there's setup issues.

[somber current]

it says there's none

[hearty wasp]

upload a screenshot of the AMUMSS window when it's running if you can

[somber current]

BUILDMOD.bat file

[hearty wasp]

yea looks like it can't check for an update

if you have any antivirus you gotta turn em off

windows defender included

[somber current]

i added an exception for windows defender and it still didnt work

[hearty wasp]

turn it off entirely

if that doesn't work still then try downloading AMUMSS again

windows defender may've blocked some files on download

[solid hawk]

If you redo the install, follow that guide, especially the unblock step. Occasionally AV may yeet files on extract from the 7z file, so they never even get to your AMUMSS folder.

Especially Curl, which is what AMUMSS uses to download updates and MBINCompiler with.

[somber current]

i tried redownloading amumss and turning off antivirus and it still didnt work

[solid hawk]

May need to take to the "home" of AMUMSS, https://discord.gg/sKNxZQKN , in the #amumss-lua channel. This sort of thing is usually an AV or web filter issue. If it's something else may need to have Wbertro take a look...he's the author of AMUMSS and hangs out at the above.

[solid hawk]

Fyi, mr goose looks to be fixed now

[solid hawk]

Nice

[south orbit]

Noce groud texture xd

[dusty tree]

im trying to install reshade for no man's sky. is this a safe build for it?

[hearty wasp]

unless it gives you a virus everything is safe for NMS

[merry wasp]

well Sean isn't safe

😄

[solid hawk]

Sorry, don't use reshade here.

[lime mesa]

are there any mods that can remove the color filter from mega exotic planets

[unborn wren]

The unpacking just, doesn't seem to happen. I don't get why.

I set all the file paths as the basics page stated.

Aaaaand it works because I set it to desktop. Great.

[vale iron]

I don't think one exists, but it definitely could be done

[solid hawk]

_MOD_DUD_PlanetFilters_v4082.pak might, which is part of DUD's Sky Colors

@steel crypt

re: 3rd Bogdanoff brother question above

[unborn wren]

The heck am I supposed to do when I indicated the MBIN Compiler path, and it doesn't understand that it's the MBIN Compiler

[unborn wren]

Still does not, I don't get it

[unborn wren]

Apparently it's the MBIN Compiler that is the problem. Refuses to do stuff dang it.

[solid hawk]

Bear in mind that I haven't used Modding Station in a few years. I just did a little setup. Make a project, added an MBIN to the project. Then within the project, I double clicked on the mbin and it was extracted to EXML within the project folder.

MBINCompiler requires .net 5 to function. Latest is at https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/5.0 . Multiple things on this page, you need .NET Desktop Runtime 5.0.17 on the right side

[unborn wren]

As I've heard. drag and drop any .MBIN file over it and it will decompile the file into the corresponding .EXML file. I tried dropping the MBIN file directly onto the...

squints

I have never been directed to that page before.

[solid hawk]

That's the page for latest .net 5. Yes, drag and drop works as well, but should be able to do from within Modding Station as well

[unborn wren]

Give me just a sec... let me run that first.

[solid hawk]

Not too far in the future, MBINCompiler will move to .net 6, but not quite there yet, as some tooling which uses it haven't upgraded to .net 6 yet.

[unborn wren]

It stated it's installed... but nothing happens.

I drop it on top of the compiler, but it doesn't do anything.

[solid hawk]

Doesn't even create a log file?

[unborn wren]

Nothing at all, when using the drag & drop method.

[solid hawk]

hhhmmmm. If you open up a command prompt and type in "dotnet --list-runtimes" (without quotes), what do you get?

For me, shows Microsoft.WindowsDesktop.App 5.0.17 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\shared\Microsoft.WindowsDesktop.App]
Microsoft.WindowsDesktop.App 6.0.13 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\shared\Microsoft.WindowsDesktop.App]
Microsoft.WindowsDesktop.App 7.0.2 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\shared\Microsoft.WindowsDesktop.App]

[unborn wren]

I assume you mean this?

[unborn wren]

Stupid question, but is the computer require to restart after the installation?

No, I get none of that.

[solid hawk]

should be no space between first double dash and list

[solid hawk]

Says you have an older version, 5.09, not the latest, 5.0.17

Installer should upgrade, but can try uninstalling 5.0.9 first, then trying the 5.0.17 again

[unborn wren]

Seems like it's refusing to do that across 2 different systems again then :(

crosoft.WindowsDesktop.App 5.0.9 This specifically, right?

[solid hawk]

Yes.

[unborn wren]

Let me check with restarting my computer.

[solid hawk]

I still use Programs and Features in control panel to do uninstalls. Not a fan of the newer Settings app. 🙂

Sounds good

[unborn wren]

Hmm... still 5.0.9...

I am guessing to delete this and reinstall?

Not a fan of the new system either, yeah.

[solid hawk]

hhhmmm, question. Is your PC like 10+ years old? Extremely unusual to use x86 nowadays. 99%+ of PCs are x64

[unborn wren]

...Ok, I might have pulled a big idiot. Just a sec.

[solid hawk]

That may be the problem. If 5.0.9 is x64, x86 of 5.0.17 won't upgrade it. Different architecture.

np, we've all been there

Be back in 5. 🙂

[unborn wren]

And I call my self a computer science graduate. Man.

...Well, that worked ._.

Successfully got an EXML.

Now this means I have to find where the heck the refinery related details are.

[solid hawk]

Cool. 🙂

[unborn wren]

This is definitely one of those, "I'll definitely want to buy you a cup of coffee" moments for me lol.

Where the heck are the stack limits...

[solid hawk]

I can give you some direction shortly. Wife kicked me off the computer temporarily. Lol

[unborn wren]

wheeze.gif

[solid hawk]

I can't look that stuff up on the cell phone. Haha

[unborn wren]

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:Reference_Guides/Global_Files

I believe it should be one of these. At least by what I saw before when I dug through mods on Nexus.

[solid hawk]

Could be or search nexusmods for refiner for other mods that make changes to them. If the mod comes with an lua script, can open in a text editor to see the file(s) changes are being made to. Should point you at a start point

[unborn wren]

The one reference I have is just a pak fiel though, which causes a bit of a problem.

[solid hawk]

Can't say for sure if any of these will have what you want, just that others have used them for refiner mods:

MODELS\PLANETS\BIOMES\COMMON\BUILDINGS\PARTS\BUILDABLEPARTS\TECH\REFINER\ENTITIES\REFINER1.ENTITY.MBIN

METADATA\REALITY\TABLES\NMS_REALITY_GCRECIPETABLE.MBIN

Those are the two I'm seeing used in existing mods with lua scripts

Hope it helps, calling it a night on my end. 🙂

[vale iron]

Refining speed is in gameplay globals, you can see an edit to that in gGame. I'm not sure on stack sizes. I think refiners use the inventory stack sizes for their limits

I'm also on phone right now so can't look much

[unborn wren]

GCGAMEPLAYGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN potentially...?

I found the general item stack sizes... but hmm...

{"MaintenanceObject", "9999"},I wonder...

[unborn wren]

Does this determine for both input AND output?

[unborn wren]

Seems like I got the input part, but the food is still a bit ???

[jagged escarp]

Is there a mod for sorting inventory feature? And does mods affect multiplayer or other things like that?

[unborn wren]

Sorting does not exist.

[fresh arch]

As for multiplayer: #nms-modding message

[jagged escarp]

Thx

[coral dove]

I have a feeling some of my mods aren't working, how do I check them?
I don't want to go one by one because I have over 50 mods installed.
All of them are installed through nexus mod manager because the lua thing is way too time consuming to do and also needs manual mode downloading and managing, which is a pita

[hearty wasp]

use AMUMSS or NMSMB to check for conflicts

[vale iron]

If you're installing with vortex, there's a high chance you have multiple versions of the same mod installed, conflicting with each other. Not too mention different mods conflicting, which is highly likely as well

[solid hawk]

or multiple different mods that make changes to the same file(s). In this case and the case that Gumsk mentioned, only the last applied will work. Nexus mod manager does not do conflict checking and cannot combine mods (so they all work) which have file conflicts. Much more of a PITA, than AMUMSS/lua which does conflict checking and can combine conflicting mods. 🙂

[coral dove]

thanks a lot to everyone for the explanation, so right now there's a mess of luas and paks in the mods folder, is there an easy way to merge all of them and solve conflicts?

I don't mind changing some scripts, but I don't want to lose too much time on it

especially since probably a lot of mods do not have a lua

For example I'm pretty sure Craftable Upgrade Mods isn't working, as I can't see the things in the anomaly menu
It's very likely passive sentinels isn't working either

[solid hawk]

First, don't need Luas in your MODS folder. Vortex is just extracting what it finds in the mod .zip/.7z files. The game doesn't use them and just ignores. The very first thing you need to do is that conflict check to know what's conflicting. Once you have that information, can come up with a game plan, but the basics is take the Luas for mods that conflict, put them into AMUMSS\ModScript and run AMUMSS\BUILDMOD.bat. This will create a combined .pak. The combined .pak will go into your MODS folder. The original .paks for mods which are now a part of the combined .pak will need to be removed from MODS or they will potentially conflict with the combined .pak. Can't advise on conflict .paks that don't have .luas yet without knowing what all the conflicts are. Many probably do have luas, but are a separate download from the main mod file or were written by other than the original mod author. Can help with that once we know more. So next steps are to get the luas out of MODS (can just put into a subfolder, to remove some of the clutter, then get AMUMSS or NMSMB to do a conflict check. With NMSMB, it's one of the tabs in the interface, for AMUMSS, conflict check is done by default when you run BUILDMOD.BAT, but can also run AMUMSS\Check_CONFLICTS.bat after setup.

Handy AMUMSS setup guide at https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626

[coral dove]

ok my savegame isn't loading anymore, I guess I'm doing this whole thing.
Btw, once again, thank you very much for taking the time to write this

[wheat stump]

ive been trying to use the black sky with nebulae mod, but it doesnt seem to do anything. is there something im doing wrong?

[simple oracle]

is there a way someone can make it so i can resize a little more stuff with the eucli-ea mod?

[vale iron]

Make sure you've got DISABLEMODS.TXT deleted, the mod .PAK file is in PCBANKS\MODS (not GAMEDATA\MODS)

[kindred stone]

best mods for a 1st time modder?(for nms)

[wheat stump]

is there a simple way i can replace the games soundtrack with other tracks? would love to have it be like interstellar

[hearty wasp]

sean

[hearty wasp]

no

only way is the complicated way

[hearty wasp]

combine with gBase/BBB/UBB

[simple oracle]

ok

[simple oracle]

umm whats bbb stand for

[solid hawk]

Beyond Base Building

[simple oracle]

ok btw ubb doesnt even let me lunch nms when i use it

[hearty wasp]

sounds like you installed it wrong

[solid hawk]

It's updated to current, 4.08. Fine here

[solid hawk]

If your planning on installing all these base building mods, you're going to need to combine using amumss

[simple oracle]

oh ok

[solid hawk]

Conflicting files

I think these still instructions for how to do on the eucli nexus page

With eucli a little more involved than just combining the luas

[solid hawk]

Ubb or ubb with unlimited base building, not both. 🙂

[simple oracle]

oh wait nvm cuz it show how i can make it all scalable

[solid hawk]

👍

[kindred stone]

sean?

[hearty wasp]

sean

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2054

[kindred stone]

ohh

ty

lol

[hearty wasp]

if you want anything else just use the search function on Nexus on a keyword basis

or top files

[solid hawk]

It's too subjective a thing. Many different kinds of mods and good options that do the same things. Makes it difficult to recommend without knowing specifically what you're looking for and you wouldn't know yet, if new, without looking to see what's out there.

One bit of advise, unless a texture replacement mod, for the most part, keep it to those updated within the last two months. Game doesn't like outdated mods much

[hot apex]

does anyone have a mod that increases the max amount of base items you can construct? the 16000 limit is just way too little

[hearty wasp]

can't

[hot apex]

damn that sucks

[solid hawk]

The joys of hardcoded

[dense rover]

Nvm, my release was just really old and I believe that didn't work

[round sinew]

have you checked nexus?

[quaint blade]

I'm not looking for that anymore

I am looking to use save editor to install a freighter save file

[round sinew]

a freighter base code?

[quaint blade]

Idk

[round sinew]

post links, give context

[magic spire]

save point they're after

to allow you to manually save on the fregihter

[round sinew]

not sure i get why the save editor is involved then?

[quaint blade]

I need the save editor to install a save file for a freigher base

and as you can see, he says there should be a "restore" option under the freighter tab

but I can't find one

[quaint blade]

I don't have those 2 buttons

oh

wait I do

I am braindead

It's gray though

How do I use it?

[hearty wasp]

you need a base in game to replace

[round sinew]

i don't know of a way to transfer base like that

[quaint blade]

I have one

Unless I am missunderstanding what "base" means

I have rooms in my freighter

[hearty wasp]

then your game mode may have made NMSSE unable to write that data effectively

[magic spire]

that feature was disabled AGES ago and it's to save the freighter base the only way to di it now is to edit the raw json and find the section with the freighter base and replace that code with the default base code

[quaint blade]

Do you know how to do that?

[magic spire]

I do

[quaint blade]

Can you help me

[magic spire]

possibly want to jump in voice chat it'll be much easier

[quaint blade]

Which one

[quaint blade]

I can't hear you

[magic spire]

well I'm working

[quaint blade]

I hear you now

But I can't use my mic

Ok I'm there

Wait

Which one

Ok

and then?

Ok

Found Persistent player bases

18

19 including the 0

Wait what

[magic spire]

you're looking for this line in one of the bases, it should show on the right panel

"ObjectID":"^AIRLCKCONNECTOR",

[quaint blade]

Send what?

[quaint blade]

none of them have airlckconnector

I do have a freighter though

Yeah I have placed rooms

I want to replace it with a base save file

From a youtube video of a freighter base someone made

with the file in the description

to install

This?

I need to put my username into "USN"?

I can send screenshot of all the numbers

That is all of them

[magic spire]

go to 17

[quaint blade]

I'm at 17

Want the usn?

[magic spire]

check that data for ^BRIDGECONNECTOR

[quaint blade]

Doesn't find the word bridge either

Nvm

It says text not found no matter what I put in there

Yes 2 has airlckconnector

Bridgeconnector too yes

Copy the USN line?

This?

It's my username

Copy everything in 2 for backup in case something goes wrong, then switch out the file with the new base file, then switch out the owner part with mine?

[magic spire]

no copy everything in 2 first, then load up the file you wish to replace 2 with and replace the owner section with your data, then replace 2 with the new info

[quaint blade]

I think I need to install a program to open the base file I am trying to install

[magic spire]

what format is it in?

[quaint blade]

.fb3

[magic spire]

got a link to the video

[quaint blade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KK-ELV60lM

[magic spire]

Yep you'll need to download and install an FBReader program

[quaint blade]

I doubt you mean FBReader for e-books

[magic spire]

https://infofiles.org/software/77-fbreader.html

[quaint blade]

Oh it is that

How do I open it

[magic spire]

nope that's not it

[quaint blade]

It can open FB2

[magic spire]

Oh! the feature has been enabled again in the save editor just use that click the restore button as mine is enabled

[quaint blade]

oh

It's not enabled for me

How did yours get enabled?

[magic spire]

mine isn't either ... but it is on an Expedition save ... Odd.

odd the save I normally play on the option is disabled yet other saves Normal, Survival and PD the option to backup/restore the base is enabled

[quaint blade]

Is the difficulty on the save you normally play on custom?

[magic spire]

not that I know of

here's the raw json use that and do it the way you were going to originally by editing the raw json

the owner info has already been changed for yours

[quaint blade]

I just need to switch out my text on 2 with this?

[magic spire]

yes, then select 1 and it should inform you the data has been changed do you wish to save it, choose Yes

[quaint blade]

Game is starting without problems

Just gotta wait for my game to load and then I can spawn my freighter and see if I have the new base

It did not work

My base is the same as before

Oh wait

Hold on a bit

IT WORKS

IT FUCKING WORKS

I need to rewire teleporters though

Oh

I just need to move the teleporters

then the wire appears

[quaint blade]

Thank you for all the help

Nvm I need to make a new wire

[wide ocean]

can someone who is smart pls explain how to fix this

[solid hawk]

NexusMods discord. https://discord.gg/nexusmods

[hearty wasp]

https://imgur.com/fWbp4Kh

new custom ship with rotating trails

[vale iron]

Beautiful

Does it still rotate when landed?

And is that 4 gun emplacements? I was only ever to get 3 working when I used the Gun1Ref

[hearty wasp]

just using a rotate entity and EXT_SHOOT locators

[solid hawk]

Amazeballs

Guess I have to be ready for an imminent SoM updatw. 🙂

[hearty wasp]

eh, got a lot more models I gotta convert

[fresh arch]

Yooo rotating trails that's cool as fucj

Not gonna lie, not a fan of that starship model

But trails are awesome

Would it be possible to have that on vanilla thrusters?

Like triple one on fighters or double one on exotics?

[hearty wasp]

it's just a locator

you can paste like 30 ones

[fresh arch]

Bold of you to assume I know what that means lol

[static socket]

I've heard u can change supercharged spots using save editor, how?

[night adder]

@static socket In GoatFungus you have to do it manually through raw JSON

[static socket]

Oh, how do I do that?

I have no idea where to start

[solid hawk]

Use NomNom for that, can do in the GUI

[night adder]

@static socket One of the few things I refuse to walk players through is the basics of JSON editing so I can then teach a specific edit, after which they'll never look at JSON again, tis not an efficient use of my time. However, that doesnt mean I'm unwilling to help; NomNom save editor allows you to right-click slots in GUI and flag SC on/off, if you wanna download that I can send you an invite link to the Discord, tis currently the only source for recent releases until zencq gets it fully back up to speed for 4.0. Alternatively, I can send you a link to a basic video tutorial that goes over a specific JSON edit - if you follow and apply it successfully, I'll know you've got enough awareness of the basics that walking you through SC slot modding won't give me a migraine.

[static socket]

im down for both, send me both

And I think I'll have a bit of an alr time learning json edit since I'm an IT student

im going through the json files rn and doesn't seem too hard

thx

I've already figured out how to do it for your normal exosuit tech inventory, not sure about starship as of yet though

[night adder]

@static socket Sorry, had a bunch of people DMing me, for future reference, I like being pinged, helps me keep track of who's in need of attn and how long theyve been waiting

[hearty wasp]

You can also ask at the creative sharing hub where more people are specialized in save editing

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[static socket]

Ah alr np and thx

[lime mesa]

where is this nonexistant folder located called MODELS?

not in the nms files

im searching what comes after this:MODELS\PLANETS\CREATURES\SANDWORMMINI...

but i cant see it because theres no models folder..

[hearty wasp]

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:The_Modding_Basics

unpack your game

[bold scaffold]

Is there any mod which speeds up settlement construction and as such

[hearty wasp]

try searching for keywords like "settlement" or "timer" on Nexus

[simple oracle]

is there a way i can change the sound track of nms?

[hearty wasp]

if you can edit the audio yourself, sure

in game music are mostly proc gen iirc btw

proc gen from stems at least

[steady plinth]

Does Thunder Store have NMS mods? I really need some quality of life improvements.

[hearty wasp]

what is a thunder store

[steady plinth]

It's a mod store.

I'm an idiot, and it does all the hard work for you. Just gotta click download lol

[hearty wasp]

we just use Nexus

[steady plinth]

Does nexus place the files for you?

[hearty wasp]

tey have Vortex

[steady plinth]

When I say I'm an idiot, that's selling it short. I don't know my áss from a hole in the wall

[hearty wasp]

but we recommend manual install the instant you encounter any issues

you can always choose to endure vanilla jank

[steady plinth]

I just want access my storage boxes from anywhere in my base

Or at least pull from them for refining, crafting, etc remotely

And possibly increase item caps in refiners

[hearty wasp]

can't

except the last one to a degree

[late loom]

Hi! I'm new to modding in nms. I just downloaded some mods through vortex and I noticed in my mods folder that there's a .pak and .lau file for each mod. Am I supposed to keep both of these or delete one of them?

[hearty wasp]

technically, neither

only pak files get loaded so it doesn't matter what else you leave in

[late loom]

Okay thanks! Just wanted to make sure it wouldn't cause any issues.

[late loom]

Also, if you don't mind, could you explain what the .lau file is for? Cause i'm seeing a lot of mods that say to download that file if I want to merge mods or something and I don't understand lol

[hearty wasp]

They're for use with a tool called AMUMSS to automate mod updates and mod merging

If you have any mod conflicts you use em with AMUMSS

[late loom]

Gotcha, thanks again!

[unborn wren]

Get the matter beam on your Freighter. Pretty much does exactly what you want.

9999 is the cap.

Or just get stack mods that increase it jank. But risk breaking.

[steady plinth]

Good advice, thank you. Now to hunt those elusive salvaged frigate modules 🤦‍♀️

[unborn wren]

Just keep poking at crashed Freighters.

[steady plinth]

I never find them! But tbf I'm not looking really either. Thank you!

[lofty gate]

Anyone got any animal generation mods?

[peak pelican]

anyone know why my freighter keeps going to C class? no matter how many times i change it with editor or which one

[peak pelican]

might of been related to some weird mp glitch

[hearty wasp]

no idea what kind you mean

[hearty wasp]

class is just a letter anyway

stats are detached

in the save at least

[vast ruin]

is there some wizard who is proficient in shaders?

[merry wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1491

Also your exocraft can scan for crashed freighters if i recall

[lofty gate]

Like, adding parts to creature generation

[hearty wasp]

no

[lofty gate]

Darnit

[hearty wasp]

There's Hobo Town if you like NPCs you can run over in a car

But no mod can edit vanilla mesh of those like creatures

[lofty gate]

Darn, thanks though

[fierce condor]

is there any way to improve a ship's maneuverability in a save editor? I found my perfect ship but the maneuverability isn't the greatest

[magic lava]

Nice

[hearty wasp]

this SoM update is finna add like 30 models

[magic lava]

Wow, that's a ton

[hearty wasp]

yeah cos every update resets the proc gen pool

have to add em in bulk

it's like yearly at this point

anyway suggestion time is now or the next year

[magic lava]

Hmm, I think you have all the ones I would want

Wait, what about the ship from Chorus?

Is that doable?

[hearty wasp]

what that

[magic lava]

Chorus is a game

Space fighter

The ship

[solid hawk]

Couple of Winnebago wings and good to go.

[last tartan]

Is there a way to use the resize glitch and still be able to connect a wire to it? @ me

[solid hawk]

If you're asking about gFreighter Custom Freighters, then you're good to go. Won't delete the base.

[vale iron]

No, maneuverability is tied to the ship seed

[solid hawk]

It gets rather wacky when resizing. The snaps are static and do not scale with size changes, so break when resized too large or too small.

[last tartan]

Is there a way to scale glitch past the 100% scale on Xbox?

[peak pelican]

gal 255 is the glitched one as far as save editors are concerned?

cuz it says im in Odyalutai ingame i thought it was meant to be bugged and say something else

[solid hawk]

NP, enjoy

[vale iron]

255/256 is Odyalutai and does not have any bugs that I'm aware of

[peak pelican]

maybe im getting mixed up with 257 then showing incorrect names

[vale iron]

Yeah, 256/257 will show incorrect names sometimes, but you're really still in Odyalutai

[peak pelican]

fair, ive heard rumors about it corrupting saves so ill just stick to 256, thanks for clearing that up anyway

[peak pelican]

anyone else having issue with maxed out inv and not being able to use the bottom row? and anyone know a work around?

[hearty wasp]

ask in #nms-questions we don't deal with glitches here

[south orbit]

Iousongola is 255 . Odyalutai is 256

[magic lava]

Depends how you count it. We (gamers) typically call Euclid #1, in files it's #0

That's why Gumsk was using 255/256

[dusk saffron]

@solid hawkI nearly spit out my coffee when I saw your newly released Portal mod. So funny and so genius at the same time.

[lofty gate]

Anyone know how to grab playermodles from the game for sfm animation?

[hearty wasp]

Are you able to rerig the model yourself?

If so then use NMSDK

If not then don't bother for now

[lofty gate]

I have no clue how to re-rig

[hearty wasp]

Then the latter

[solid hawk]

Thanks. I just find it useful. Often times I travel to other specific planets to support another mod of mine.

[dusk saffron]

no.... thank YOU for all the stuff you add for the NMS community. I grabbed it, but not installed for now. At this stage I mostly only do permadeath games with no starter ship. 🙂

Only mods I have active are Faster Movement, and No Auto Save

[solid hawk]

For the sake of challenge, gLonely and Exosolar's Savage Sentinels are also nice.

[dusk saffron]

I'll give them a look. Not knowing coding or modding, I am cautious about overlapping mods.

[vernal zephyr]

anyone know good mods for resizing

[hearty wasp]

Upload screenshot of MODS folder

Preferably with file path visible

[vale iron]

Brilliant

[opaque agate]

Amazing

[fresh arch]

Actual paper plane when

[fresh arch]

@round elbow https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2583

Or the whole pack: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1436

[weary glade]

How would I go about changing the colour on my freighter? I know there are the options ingame but there are parts of the freighter that still use the original paint, would I use a save editor or something? for instance i've used the white paint on my freighter, yet the loading dock still uses the original colours of the freighter

[hearty wasp]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

find a seed with visuals matching your desired parts and colours and then apply that seed to your freighter

the home seed, specifically

[dusk saffron]

I found this seed online yesterday

@weary glade

[hearty wasp]

complete with proc gen paper

guess what poster those are

[fresh arch]

Lol, no idea

The photo with Sean showing gold copy of the game on the disc?

[hearty wasp]

I literally have that pic on my desktop

[merry wasp]

where's the sean paper plane?

[karmic trout]

hello

@fresh arch sorry for the ping
what mods do u think I should download?

[fresh arch]

First of all, check out the pinned messages for guides on how to prepare your game for mods

I would recommend starting with a simple mod like this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1167

As for QoL improvements, I recommend some of mods by lo2k: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/880

I really like Better Scan Colors, Better Frigate View, Bigger Wallet (not what it sounds like, still a nice feature)

Colorful Starfield, Colorful Substance Labels, Exact Markers

Old Style Slots is a must have for me, because of the bullshit UI changes introduced with the Waypoint update

[karmic trout]

ok thnaks!!!

[dusk saffron]

No Auto Save mod gets rid of the autmatic saving since the last update. I found out haw bad that sucks when tryiing to locate a portal on a new save and get the question wrong, can't reload save

[fresh arch]

Wait I was writing about QoL stuff I forgot my own shameless self promotion

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2629

Red is typing 😓 😟

[shy grove]

Yeah, this is a bit annoying. Really wish they'd make a third save to have a true save point. I don't get how you can't have a true manual save point option anymore. Especially for players who are on console and can't do backups. Especially because it's also a great way to work around some glitches.

[shy grove]

Way cool, Fire!

[fallow meadow]

You do realise there are loads of models you could 'fold' ?

I can imagine a whole fleet of paper plane Seans

[hearty wasp]

oh yeah ik

[fallow meadow]

Seanigami ...

hmmm, procedural folding, if not a thing yet, it should be!

[merry wasp]

lol

post that to NMS twitter

XD

they could add that to their merch store the Seanigami book

[dusk saffron]

LMAO, are you the one that made the Sean head mod a couple of years ago?

[fallow meadow]

Hey hey, stop pointing fingers at me ... I did not get this started!
Go blame the master of mad science self @hearty wasp

[dusk saffron]

I forget what Sean's response to it was..... did he laugh about it?

[full swallow]

@fallow meadow , i did try a mod called natural steering, but it also feels weird, weirder than mouse steering tbh

what is this option you speak of ?

[fallow meadow]

Well, it is just a single setting to enable the old behaviour again, so it is no longer locked to mouse direction.

In your case you do not even have to alter the settings file as you wish to use default keys (WASD)

It results in being able to steer with AD, while mouse just provides the look

Maybe that mod does the same?

[full swallow]

you can NOT change direction without pressing W or S

is vanilla like this ?

[fallow meadow]

Ah, it does alter the same file, so may very well be what I did, if not more considering the name of the mod

[fallow meadow]

Yes, you have to also move forward or backwards to actually be able to alter direction

Kind of like turning the steering wheel while standing still. It does nothing

[full swallow]

oh damn, so the game is fundamentally flawed with the cars :/

[fallow meadow]

It has never been great

[full swallow]

really sucks, the potential is there, its just the execution is not very good

"clunky controlls" is putting it mildly

[fallow meadow]

I have to agree it could be done better, and even more so by actually providing available bind options to go with it

Was a shame those binds were never made available to begin with (think left-handed players, etc). Now to find out it is completely disabled and forced to use mouse, unless you mod a single setting...

Anyways, it's all I can offer.

[dusk saffron]

I like Faster Movement and No Auto Save

[dusk saffron]

@lime mesaNexus mods you can filter Most Popular, there is a huge variety

I dont use the ones that gives me free stuff because I am mostly restarting new Permadeath games every other day for the challenge part of it

[timid burrow]

May I seek some assistance here?

I have been trying to decompile game files into EXML format but the MBINCompiler doesn't seem to be working.

And there's no decompile option in the right click menu of NMS Modding Station.

(dot)Net version is 7.0

I have only downloaded the "mbincompiler.exe" from git hub, as it was mentioned in the downloading instructions.

NMS Modding station is properly setup, game files have been unpacked and all of them show up as <GAMEFILENAME>.GLOBAL.MBIN

[unborn wren]

The decompile is just double click :x

[timid burrow]

ohh

[unborn wren]

If it does not work there, make sure you got the right net version.

[timid burrow]

Does it have to be 5?

[unborn wren]

Shouldn't be... can you do
dotnet --list-runtimes on your cmd?

[timid burrow]

got it, It needed dotNET 5 to work

Now I have 5, 6, 7 installed, wth!

[weary glade]

is that the home seed for the colour?

[karmic trout]

great mod
thank you!!

[dusk saffron]

yes, if you want to try to get the bridge that color

[lilac pollen]

Holy crap I didn’t even know NMs had mods 😦

[solid hawk]

NMS only has mods in a modded version of IRL. 🤪

[solid hawk]

Seriously though, yes we do. THis is your starting point: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky

[sleek sapphire]

I wanna see a xenomorpth pet

[quick smelt]

is there a mod that can turn blue exotic ships black?

[dusk saffron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2400

nope, that isnt it, sorry

[quick smelt]

xD

i mean its still nice asf

[quick smelt]

blue, yellow, or orange

[void ore]

Am I able to do any modding on ps or can only pc

[vale iron]

Only PC

[shy grove]

Someone here did bring up before you can technically mod save edit on PS4 but a paid for app is required iirc.

[sleek sapphire]

Damn they already jailbreaking those

My ps3 prob still has gta with SpongeBob and his toilet ride

[shy grove]

@void ore

Paid software being a requirement does mean few PS4 players can [save edit]
Save Wizard, top google result should be the site
Past thread here: <#nms-modding message>

[sleek sapphire]

save wizard gta modding flashbacks

Plates never worked lol

[vale iron]

That works for save editing, but I don't think it helps any with modding

[sleek sapphire]

Useful for expedition items and such

[vale iron]

Yes definitely

[shy grove]

Oh thank you for clarifying. Oops!

[fresh arch]

I only know this one for space stations and Space Anomaly: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1357

[quick smelt]

how do terrain mods work, are the planets still the same for everyone else?

[chilly hull]

if I glitch a base computer onto a freighter, if I warp the freighter will it break the base computer?

[fallow meadow]

Terrain altered by mods, is not visible to other players. There is a pin in this channel describing how mods affect the game for you and others:
<#nms-modding message>

Make sure you installed the mod (.pak file) in the correct location. It has to be the MODS folder 'inside' PCBANKS (create if needed), not the other one already there by default. Also make sure to remove the DISABLEMODS.txt file for mods to be loaded at all. Not seeing your message anymore, but hopefully this helps get it to work

[fallow meadow]

A base Computer is fixed to the position it is placed in, it will not move with the Freighter, so not advised to do this.

[chilly hull]

thank you

[fallow meadow]

Why are you attempting to do this? Maybe we can provide some alternative solution?

Also I should note that what I said above, kind of depends on how you placed it or activated it, but in general, not recommended, as it can easily lead to issues

Now if you wish to use planet base objects on a freighter, there are certainly ways, with mods being the easiest solution. There are actually quite a few out there that can accomplish this. It is also possible to use glitch building techniques.

[chilly hull]

oh good. I was hoping to get a few planet objects on the freighter. nothing too fancy. Thanks!

[fallow meadow]

If you decide on using a mod(s), check Nexus Mods for NMS and do a search and best to always sort by 'last updated'. I am sure you'll find something to your liking.
If you prefer to try some glitch techniques, I'd suggest to ask in #nms-base-building or look for some 'recent' YouTube tutorials.

@chilly hull The current glitch technique used for this on a freighter is most often referred to as the 'cachepin' method

[hearty wasp]

think I've scraped all I can find on sketchfab for spaceships

like 36 ships at the end of it all

no scifi flying wings tho which is big shame

[solid hawk]

Beyond Base Building

[solid hawk]

Less now than previously, due to recent Build Menu changes. The old go to of just setting BuildableOnX alone, no longer works for many objects. Have to also overtly set to show in a Group/SubGroup that will display on PlanetBase or Freighter for many of the objects.

Beyond Base and gBase each do so for some of the objects.

Gumsk and I have been collaborating on this, so alot of overlap between the mods in this regard

[fallow meadow]

I am aware, which is part reason for mentioning 'last updated', as those are more likely to have adjusted accordingly. Appreciate the info though, as I always use my own custom mods if I mod at all. So not always aware of what all is out there

[solid hawk]

If you have any private mods with Luas that you wish to share, always happy to add to the Lua repo. mwahahaha. 🙂

[fallow meadow]

I love LUA, but sorry, I still mod the quick and dirty oldschool way 😄 Shame I have to do a bit more work than just a NP++ regex/replace since that change, but I do like the added menu options. I have nothing all that fancy anyway, usually just something temporary useful for whatever reason. Who knows though, maybe some day ...

[solid hawk]

🙂

[merry wasp]

Come Over

even small mods are appreciated 😄

[fallow meadow]

Last mod I did was vehicle control ... single boolean change, because Editing Keyboard bindings in the settings stopped working and someone could use it. Another change I made for easier research was actually a save edit, to be able to check GM from anywhere. Some other crazy things I have done are just fun for a short time, to quickly be forgotten about again ... lol

Now if someone could mod the time a day lasts from the current 24 hrs, to maybe twice that amount, I will consider it and let you guys know 🤪

[merry wasp]

i think someone has a mod for that

somewhere

[fallow meadow]

The No Sleep mod eh? I am using that one already and doesn't quite do the trick

[merry wasp]

dont think that

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2499

@unique crest might help you out, his mod 😄

[fallow meadow]

(I should have specified 'IRL' day time mod)

[merry wasp]

LOL

Ok that one went over my head, got me cracking up tho

[fallow meadow]

@merry wasp That pfp is getting to me, giving me 'modding' ideas too. How about some sci-fi 'chicken wings'?

[merry wasp]

haha

it from a funny mahnua i'm reading, they are actually baby cockatrices 😄

[fallow meadow]

Then again, I know someone who might be interested to take up on that idea ... lol

[merry wasp]

already did

you do know i made that custom food mod for Gleam that he still hasnt used XD

[fallow meadow]

I want proof now ... pictures or it didn't happen

[merry wasp]

https://github.com/MetaIdea/nms-amumss-lua-mod-script-collection/tree/main/Jackty89/FoodProject

[fallow meadow]

Ah really, and you could fly them as well as eat them?

[fallow meadow]

Fancy! Nice, never actually seen any of it

[fallow meadow]

Is that actually still a project you work on?

[merry wasp]

oh no

like i said a manhua i read (dungeon athlete)

XD

but for custom food in NMS yes, you can sue the FoodProjectV2.lua

[wise fractal]

Guys i have a pc but i want to save edit my xbox how would i do that?

[merry wasp]

i think that in the pins

[fallow meadow]

I prolly should, even if just for the coffee

[merry wasp]

that one of the first things i added

altho i dont drink it in IRL

[fallow meadow]

Make sure you sync your save files to PC (Game Pass), install a Save Editor of your choice, start editing. Questions, ask. (links in pins > NMSSE or NomNom)

[wise fractal]

Ah ok any recommendations for save editors?

[fallow meadow]

Tough choice to be honest. Either will do, both may have some issues. NMSSE is way more basic, a lot older, been very reliable, but no great communication with the creator when it comes to issues/updates. NomNom is a lot newer, but already has a lot more features, a lot more planned, but still a work in progress, although working for most of it and good active support

[wise fractal]

Mm ok thx

Also do i need nms on pc to do it?

[brazen maple]

Anyone have a mod that makes flight controls easier in vr? I’ve found it really hard to fly around using the default controls. Also, any mod recommendations to make vr better in any way would be nice. (Ui, controls, etc) I use a quest 2 for vr. (Please ping me if you have anything) thanks!

[fallow meadow]

I assume you do, because you will need to get your saves to sync through the cloud to be available on the PC. Not sure you actually need to be able to play NMS.

[quick smelt]

do i put the files here or in the folder? cause the folder keeps going?

[vale iron]

Not there

GAMEDATA\PCBANKS\MODS

[quick smelt]

ah so i add a folder there

gotcha

the pinned message said to put the .pak files in there, do i just leave the .lua alone?

[vale iron]

You don't need the Lua

That's for building mods with AMUMSS

[quick smelt]

when you look what it says youre getting its a .pak but when you download it its a .rar? is there a way to make the .rar into a .pak or should i just find a different mod

[fallow meadow]

A .rar file is just an archive containing the file(s), but compressed to make the total size smaller. You can extract the contents, which will likely have your .pak

[solid hawk]

Enjoy Lumen. 🙂

[quick smelt]

will terrain gen changes only impact new planets or all planets?

[vale iron]

All planets, for you

[hearty wasp]

rainbow vomit ahoy

[dusk saffron]

are those from like the '80s?

[hearty wasp]

no

this model's made 5 years ago

[dusk saffron]

@hearty waspI never played the old vintage Elite Dangerous, but I wondered if those were some kind of replica of their early ships. I play it now, and there is a "Cobra" that is kind of similar in a broad stretch 🙂

[brazen maple]

Any way to make the hud follow your head in vr? I find it really annoying how it doesn’t

[steel crypt]

Is this from a space game/sim? Looks very familiar. I can't remember the name..... it's like a somewhat current open source elite type game.....ahhh what is it.....

Pioneer

[hearty wasp]

ye

[magic lava]

@sly moss check these out

[steel crypt]

I liked the boxy shuttle in that game. Very basic. Probably why I tend to use shuttles in NMS.

If we could shove the orbital physics into NMS.....

[magic lava]

I like landing in quicker than 5 minutes

[steel crypt]

I hear ya.
Pioneer has a ship computer that will do all kind of auto stuff so that you fly pretty much like NMS. If you want, you can turn things on and off in that flight computer and go manual/partial. I don't want to make NMS sim-y, but some things like that can be done with/without "computer" assistance, so that it goes from arcade to sim-y with a slider/settings.

I'm not advocating making it a different game. Just trying to say some things can be done without detracting from the NMS of it maybe.

Make people earn an expensive flight computer.... MWA HAHAHAHA

[magic lava]

Lol

[steady plover]

How do I get to a particular gakaxy in nms using save editor. 🤔

[dusk saffron]

below edit json, coordinate viewer

[steady plover]

Uhhhhhhhhhh

😵‍💫

I will get back here with screenshots. Please tell me then. M new to this.

[sly moss]

Love these 🌈

[quick smelt]

so when it comes to color changing mods for ships, and theres just the one pak file for 13? ship colors i think, am i able to go thru the pack to get rid of the colors i dont want or is it an all or nothing sorta thing

[hearty wasp]

which mod

[quick smelt]

uh True Color for Exotics

i think, dont know if thats the actual name or not

[safe merlin]

i have a mod that reskins your freighter to the enterprise as shown on my profile picture

but there is bugs

[vale iron]

You would have to rebuild the mod, it's not just one pak for each color

[safe merlin]

when i try to use the pulse engene with it out it wont let me

[quick smelt]

its got 4 files, bold colors and pastel colors for exotics, and bold colors and pastel colors for normal ships, but i only have the bold for exotics

i assume id have to talk to the developer of the mod about it then?

[vale iron]

Yeah or learn how to unpack the mod and change it yourself

[quick smelt]

euf alright

[vale iron]

Do you spin around when trying to pulse or something else?

[quick smelt]

my white and gold swordfish turned into a blue one and i dont like it xD

or the neon green

[safe merlin]

i canot dismiss it

[safe merlin]

if i do it crashes the game

i reported the bugs and disabled the mod

[vale iron]

Was the mod just the enterprise?

[solid hawk]

As I messaged you through Nexus, use gFreighter custom freighter. The standalone enterprise is deprecated

Said the same on the description tab of the mod. 🙂

[safe merlin]

ok

thx

uh oh my game frose when i took a picture

[solid hawk]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2200

[safe merlin]

thx i know where it is

[solid hawk]

👍

Has Enterprise AND other skins for the freighter

[safe merlin]

i know

i have a cousin that likes star wars i will send it to him

btw

there is the cool mod named lasagna

what it does it is tweaks the prop generation

and makes it so you can see pparts of a hexagon planet on a radiation planet

or trees on a dead planet

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2080

and NO this is not a meme

this is a mod

[solid hawk]

Yep, lasagna is a good biome mod. Same author has a new one that can be used to combine lasagna, better planet gen, and parallel universe

[safe merlin]

i have a hexagon planet that is still a hexagon planet but with grass and cool trees

[hearty wasp]

more rainbow vomit

[ionic talon]

hey

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1064

Here it is boys

[plucky steeple]

any recommendations of terrain generation and graphic related mods?

[solid hawk]

Better planet generation, patallel universe, terra firma, lasagna....all good. Try each, one at a time, and see which you prefer

Very subjective in nature

[plucky steeple]

for testing i need new world each time right?

[solid hawk]

Not necessarily. Change terrain mod, the terrain for the planet that you're on will change. Best to go up to a station when you swap out terrain mods. Don't want to exit the game on a mountaintop and come back in to find it's now the grand canyon. lol

May want to visit several different planet types for each, get a better feel for the differences. Like how one handles a frozen world versus another.

[plucky steeple]

Parallel is so different compared to rest, damn

[solid hawk]

Once you try them all out, there's https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2644 which can be used to combine several, but takes some fiddling. 🙂

The ultimate in biome options

[plucky steeple]

i know nothing about code changing

[solid hawk]

The author provides instrustions and will answer questions in POSTS on the mod oage

[plucky steeple]

i guess im still doing something wrong so imma leave it until its not broken

[mossy linden]

Can anyone help with ball ship I have the ship just need it to be save edited

[fresh arch]

Duds Sky Colours is great

Another visual mod I like is Unified Warps

[plucky steeple]

i guess going on my normal save is not good idea seeing how much it changes on pregenerated planet

[vale iron]

Yes, terrain gen mods change all planets

[wide ocean]

does anyone know of a mod for unlimeted quicksilver?

[vale iron]

That would be more for save editing. Just edit your save to have however much QS you want. There's a mod for easier quicksilver, Enjoyable Quicksilver, but that doesn't sound like what you want.

[wide ocean]

thx man

[steel crypt]

The way you worded this makes me think to say something in case it might help you:
There are a lot of misconceptions about terrain rendering. One misconception is that once something is rendered, it's recorded in a save.
The terrain is created each time you see it. If you land on a planet, walk around, then go to away, the terrain doesn't exist anymore. So, if the rules about generation change between visits, the planet will change.

[magic lava]

^ Remove mod, terrain reverts

[plucky steeple]

ik but looks so much better on some planets

[hearty wasp]

Then don't remove it

[mossy linden]

Can anyone help with a ball ship

[hearty wasp]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

you can do it yourself with instructions over there

or head to the hub since someone sells em

[safe merlin]

@solid hawk You are the person who made the portal on space station mod, good job!

[solid hawk]

Thanks, but @marsh eagle gets all credit for the original mod. I just did the surgery to have it work with current. 🙂

[safe merlin]

[unborn wren]

@azure marsh What do you need help on.

[azure marsh]

trying to move a base computer with the save editor but I'm not seeing any bases on the drop down list

[unborn wren]

Ah... yikes can't help with that.

Sad.

[azure marsh]

just a known bug?

[unborn wren]

No, I just don't know how for that. Someone else might.

[azure marsh]

I'll.... figure out a way to build around it, currently it's spawning me in a VERY bad spot

but I can work with it. surely.

[round sinew]

@azure marsh i think that it should show up here no matter what

[azure marsh]

where's that?

[round sinew]

Edit > Edit raw json; on the left, PlayerStateData

[azure marsh]

they're there

[round sinew]

yep, now it's just a matter of finding the base comp id you need to delete edit

[azure marsh]

deleting it would make it default to the current base computer position?

and also no clue what im looking for

[round sinew]

trying to move a base computer with the save editor

[azure marsh]

ah in objects

[azure marsh]

ah this is going to be

[round sinew]

but i don't really have a good understanding on vectors and stuff

[azure marsh]

fun

you know what im just gonna build around the current spawn position

[round sinew]

yeah, sorry, i'm not sure on how the process is done through the json; was trying to search this channel for posts on it - i know some friends that would be able to help you with this, they're just not online atm.

[azure marsh]

It's okay, I can just make it work

[dusk saffron]

I htink it was devilin that helped me with copy and pasting bases from other saves

[round sinew]

the player is trying to move the base computer object coordinates in the same base, do you remember how to?

i would do it it like using a save beacon

[dusk saffron]

no, that one scares me too much, sorry

[round sinew]

so, build a save beacon on the base, then go to the base in json editor, get the coordinates of the beacon object, and replace the base comp ones with the beacons

then delete the beacon

[dusk saffron]

I broke a new test save last week messing with the json

[shy grove]

Did they figure it out? Or do we need to ping Dev for when she's around?

[round sinew]

i think it might be best - i think i know how, but i'm not sure if there's like an easier way

or a better way

[azure marsh]

I figured out how to just work with it

im building a room around the spot

Its uh.. very tedious

but i can make this work

[round sinew]

sorry - i think what i suggested above would work, and the most it would happen is that you'd need to revert to a backup 😅 , but up to you ofc

[dusk saffron]

I'm not seeing any simple methods in NomNom either

[shy grove]

@fallow meadow if you see this, and have any additional tips that may help make the process less tedious (ref comment above: <#nms-modding message>), please let Evalka know?

[twilit smelt]

@azure marsh you want to move a base computer object somewhere else within the base, in a way that you can't do by moving the base computer in-game?

[azure marsh]

Yeah, I did

I've made a room around the existing area, once I have a teleporter up I should only have to use it occasionally since it spawns you at the portal sometimes

[twilit smelt]

what couldn't be done in-game?

[azure marsh]

moving the spawnpoint

[twilit smelt]

ahhh - re-homing

[azure marsh]

im fine tho

i just

made do

really awkward staircase connecting to the side of a bridge and going under the base

[twilit smelt]

well, neither save editor works with base editing at the moment. NMSSE can't view base info at all, and nomnom's button to do this is MIA.
doing this manually in JSON is nigh impossible.
you're already doing all you can for the time being. getting the tp ring active should be quite reliable though.

[round sinew]

(so what i was suggesting above with the beacon wouldn't work, then?)

[azure marsh]

let me put it this way

last time I tried a solution equivalent to that for a problem with my PC, I needed to reset it

[round sinew]

just a save file here, and backups are possible

the save editor itself creates them

[azure marsh]

I know, my point being that the problem wasn't fixed either, and since you can move the base computer in-game im not sure what it'd accomplish

i also noticed a thing in the save editor where I can.. change base featured to true? i really hope that doesn't work lmfao

[twilit smelt]

not at the moment, no. i wanted to nudge things around myself recently and was stymied.

[round sinew]

i thought that you needed to move the base computer within the base

because it was unreachable

[azure marsh]

oh

yeah no i need to move the spawn point set by the base computer to the base computer

not sure how you end up with an unreachable base computer

[twilit smelt]

object could have been bugged and removed.
also used to be a problem where you could end up with more than one base computer and then couldn't delete the dupe. both are gross and need save editing.

[azure marsh]

AH true

[round sinew]

thanks for clearing it up for us, @twilit smelt 🙂

[twilit smelt]

for crushing all hopes and dreams...

[night adder]

@twilit smelt Nigh impossible? Sure. Will I figure it out? Damned close. 😉

[summer lotus]

i'm attempting to edit my ship colors using a save editor, but can't find the save files within either of these folders

Inside the top (supposed) save file folder there's a bunch of empty folders

[weary glade]

Is it yet possible to get the switch exclusive ship that was obtained for preordering the game on switch?

[night adder]

@summer lotus You're not selecting the specific save file, you're setting the save file path, so go back 1 folder, click on WGS, and click Open.

@weary glade Yes, but requires a manual save edit through raw JSON else a ship export file

[weary glade]

Ah, how would I go about obtaining the ship's seed to do that?

I've tried the model viewer in hopes that it might give me the seed for the ship but it doesn't seem like it does. aswell as going through some files but couldn't find anything on it

[summer lotus]

this one?

No save files or slots appear when selecting that, i've downloaded the new version

[night adder]

@summer lotus Youre not supposed to see save files or slots, youre just pointing to the folder the program willbe looking in to find those

[summer lotus]

i figured it out

[night adder]

@weary glade The seed is irrelevant, the Switch ship uses a unique scene file, that file path is what requires manual editing. Or you could use NomNom, which has that as an option to select in GUI

[karmic trout]

is this the mods of no man sky on nexus? and how to download this mod

[weary glade]

ahh gotcha, so that's likely stuff way out of my league lol, I'll check out nomnom

[fresh arch]

This is not a singular mod, this is a mod collection

For that you should download the Vortex mod manager and set it up for NMS

Then you can download the collection by clicking on the Add To Vortex button, browser should ask you to open the link in Vortex

And proceed with installation instructions there

Don't ping me on how exactly to use Vortex or collections since I don't use them for NMS

[weary glade]

Yeah I can't figure this out, ah well. I'll just live without it lol.

[weary glade]

aha! got it!

[summer lotus]

Account tab greyed out

Everything else works fine, but I can't manage the "Account" tab

is this an error or on purpose

[night adder]

@summer lotus Account save data isnt editable across all platforms.

[summer lotus]

I've edited it before

[night adder]

Recently? NMSSE hasnt been updated since December, so if it was pre-4.0, it's likely not been updated to account for account. Otherwise yes, it's an error.

[karmic trout]

I see
Thank you!!
Other question: is there is a mod that make the terrain not comeback when I edit it?

[fallow meadow]

@azure marsh CC: @round sinew @twilit smelt @night adder
Wanted to make sure you know what your options are and explain each, even though you have already been helped and moved on.

• Just changing the Base Computer spawn should be done in-game by moving the base computer itself.
• Doing the above within the save editor itself, in case you can not get to it in-game, is relatively easy. Just place a different object (preferably unique) at the exact new location and save. Now check the save data for the base, look for this object within the base data, replace this object ID with the Base Computer ID (^BASE_FLAG), then delete the initial Base Computer with it's data (usually near the top of the parts list).
• If you wish to move the base, you make a base data backup, then delete the base in-game, then place a new base computer at the new location, then copy only the base parts back into the base data.
• If you wish to keep the base at the exact same location, but just want to move it's 'origin' of the base (where the base computer was 'first' built), you have to know the in-game 'vector' for this move (difference between 2 locations in 3D space). You then have to move this origin by this vector, but you also have to move every single base object by the inverse of that vector. This is because every base object is placed relative to the origin. As said however, this would currently have to be done manually, as neither save editor appears to be able to due to being broken or outdated. I advise against doing this manually, unless you truly know what you are doing and are able to automate the process, unless only a few parts (in which case you might as well re-build to begin with). The calculation for vector addition/subtraction is actually relatively easy. Use of existing tools may help out (ie. Blender Plugin)
  PS: Keep in mind that this last step does not take rotation into account!

[fallow meadow]

No mod for fixing that game bug/issue that I am aware of. Would be best to report it to Hello Games instead

!hg

[hardy aurora]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[night adder]

@fallow meadow Okay, 2 questions, first, the inverse vector part would be for current objects to remain in the same spot through the origin shift, yes? 2nd, what's the calculation for vector +/-?

[fallow meadow]

So yes, try to imagine moving the full base to a new location, this is a vector3 (XYZ) change in 3D space, right, but all objects would move with it as well, so those need to be moved back the opposite direction.

Now rotation might come in play too, depending on how far you move (considering we move on a planet). However, considering all objects are relative to origin, this rotation only requires to be done on the origin. Easiest to get this 'Forward' V3 in the base data, is by just placing a new base computer, initialise it, to then copy this from the save data for use.

To answer your last question:
vectorA(XYZ) ± vectorB(XYZ) = (AX±BX,AY±BY,AZ±BZ)

You may recall how we searched for colliding planets over at Creative & Sharing? I explained the math to check for this I believe

Same basics apply. Vector multiplication (distances for example) becomes a bit harder I guess

[night adder]

Okay, I guess a better question to ask for my purpose would be, would you happen to know the math to manipulate the base Forward value so that object coords would be synchronous with the system coords?

[fallow meadow]

With colliding planets, to use as example again, you also have to know the size of a planet, in which case you need to square vector coords to get to a radius.

[fallow meadow]

Ah, yes, well, bases are relative to the planet, where planets are relative to the system, which has it's own rotation as well.

Now planet coords/orientation are local to the planet, planet coords and rotation is relative to the system. So that will be fun to orient a planet based object to the system, but certainly possible, as long as you know the system orientation

[night adder]

Ah, that's likely what tripped me up, I looked at planet positions and base origin and thought that base origin was system-relative

[fallow meadow]

Systems are interesting in how they place planets and orient it all. It has to look realistic, but some trickery is applied I feel. Not much to be found in your local save data either, as it doesn't deal with it all that much to get useful info.

But if you are looking for a way to for example place a short range teleporter on a Space Station, it can certainly be calculated to get it exactly right.

[night adder]

No, I want to place save beacons well outside of base radius and be able to use simple subtraction and JSON to position things like race checkpoints

[fallow meadow]

For most players, this goes way beyond their knowledge. Some are willing to put effort into approximating, through triangulation and trial/error though.

[fallow meadow]

Race checkpoints are actually restricted to function within a single base. Not sure you used it as an example or are trying to actually work with them out of base boundary

Think base power/pipes

Not to say you can not go system wide, but you can not use them as 'BaseBuildingObjects'

[night adder]

I'm aware, but base boundary is a restriction on UI, distance doesnt actually matter.. Oh, then must be a while since you looked, race tech IS baseobjects now.

@fallow meadow

[fallow meadow]

That is what I am trying to say, PersistentPlayerBases object, not BaseBuildingObjects, so belonging to a single base, not a portable object like a Save Beacon

I think we are both talking about the same though

Anyways, to get back to your question about calculating orientation as well as location when it comes to the full 'planet', YES, this can be done if you consider the planet a perfect sphere. However, you will have to adjust position when it comes to proper placement, considering the terrain can change elevation within a certain threshold

Prolly better to chat it up in DM some more

[azure marsh]

Changing the base computer spawn should be done in-game by moving the base computer itself

Yeah uh.. spawn doesn't move, base computer does. That's the issue I was told moving it with save editor would fix?

[fallow meadow]

Interesting how spawn does not move with it, which totally deserves a bug report. As for moving it through save editor, I doubt that makes any difference, as it would result in the same. I can however have a look if there is a spawn position set in the save data, but I am afraid the only thing present is the TeleportEndpoints, where changing it there is likely not going to stick. I will investigate and get back to you

!hg

[hardy aurora]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[azure marsh]

That's so weird, I definitely had people talking about it before.. worth some testing

Note the spawning is inconsistent as hell: after teleporting to my base I either spawn

• Where I would spawn if I got out of my ship
• Where the base computer was placed originally
• Very occasionally by the portal

[fallow meadow]

I am going to do some testing. I would not be surprised if they never adjusted behaviour for spawn when they implemented the ability to move base computer

[night adder]

Yeah, sounds like it's keyed off of origin

[fallow meadow]

It 'should' first check for Base Teleporter, then check for base computer. It also checks for an actual possible spawn according to whatever rules. The ship has a similar spawn with it's own rules, as it moves with you

In case of origin, the change to make to fix it, is the one you'd least prefer doing

[azure marsh]

That's really weird then, once I'm not part of my bed I'll get video of teleporting to the base with the buggiest spawns

[fallow meadow]

That would at least show the actual situation you are facing. We can then better judge any possible solutions

[azure marsh]

Oh right

[fallow meadow]

@azure marsh It does indeed teleport to base origin, not the Base Computer (and it prefers spawning the player on terrain if possible, by the looks of it)

[azure marsh]

Aha, i was about to say I can't record anything lol

game overlay no workie

[fallow meadow]

Not sure what you try use to record

[azure marsh]

geforce experience, the regular

just doesn't work with this game for some reason

[fallow meadow]

Base was created on this wooden small floor. Then moved my Base Computer as you can see, to then teleport from Space Station to where you see me standing

[azure marsh]

Yup

[fallow meadow]

Not sure, maybe because of Vulkan? Some images may do the trick too though.

[azure marsh]

AH could be vulkan

Well, it's not what should happen

It technically works, it just doesn't appear over the game

so I can't see any of it

my cursor disappears and I can't move, that's about it

sucks tbh

[fallow meadow]

Try playing windowed?

Sometimes fullscreen capture is an issue

[azure marsh]

I'm on borderless currently, windowed seems broken but ill try switching again

does work on windowed

the problem is windowed makes game no work goodly

[fallow meadow]

As for getting the spawn to move, it is possible, but requires some work. Easier to do with some additional tools, which I would personally try depending on how much I'd want to move it to go through the trouble

[azure marsh]

yeah im just making sure to put it in a decent spot now

building up with terrain manipulator to put the base computer somewhere I can intergrate

[fallow meadow]

Are you rebuilding all then?

[azure marsh]

I mean yeah technically just making a new base instead

oh NOW you spawn me at my portal

[fallow meadow]

lol

[azure marsh]

but yeah just working on this instead

found a scaled planet in a 3star gek system so i thought why not

[fallow meadow]

Ever worked with Blender plugin?

[azure marsh]

Heard of it, the problem is that i struggle with blender lol

Isn't there a separate app too?

[fallow meadow]

There is a standalone app as well now, yes.

[azure marsh]

easier than blender? if so i will try that out

[fallow meadow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2598

[azure marsh]

mm yeah im downloading it already

damn nexus free downloads tho

Ah.

Nevermind then

[fallow meadow]

Why not?

[azure marsh]

Okay, I literally punched my mouse to set mousewheel click to a different button

my mouse is uh

not great

[vale iron]

Mine is really weird. You push the scroll wheel to the side to middle click

[fallow meadow]

so then it would be ALT + whatever button you puched it to?

[azure marsh]

Yeah

it just

took a LOT

to set that

like 5 minutes of just slamming it

[azure marsh]

lmao its like my microwave

you could put your entire bodyweight into the start button but nothing will happen

but if you wiggle it around it works

[ionic talon]

hello

can a ship make all of its tech slots sc?

[fallow meadow]

You can Save Edit to make slots supercharged.

[ionic talon]

sure thing

[fallow meadow]

NomNom has the ability to select a slot to become supercharged, while NMSSE requires to do this through Raw JSON editing.

Links to either save editor can be found in the pins

[ionic talon]

a player can gift a xbox or ps because this in the game file and pc can manipulate the state. xbox and ps can't access cloth things or things like a base mod that is not in the game file?

[fallow meadow]

I am not quite sure I understand correctly, but there are indeed differences in what is possible depending on the platform. On PC you can use mods and change the save easily. On console you can not use mods, and only in some cases are you able to modify your save data.

[vale iron]

It's easier to answer with concrete examples. Any specific items you are wondering about?

[fallow meadow]

On Xbox, you can use a PC to get Game pass, so you can get the save data to 'sync' to the PC through the Cloud. You can then edit the save and sync it again to use on Xbox console

[ionic talon]

if it in the official game file. a pc player can buff what's in the official one and can give it to another xbox or ps player. this is what i mean

[vale iron]

Not really. To be able to gift something that has been changed, it has to be something that is changed in the save file, not by mods

And even then it's not guaranteed

[fallow meadow]

Ah, like someone on PC giving an egg for a pet that has been modified?

So someone on console can get it?

[ionic talon]

if it's a ship and all its tech slots are sc. a pc player can sell their ship and tell the ps player to quickly claim and buy it and that ps player will have it. like this

[ionic talon]

yes. I seen pc players give modified pets but it's not like pc to pc mods

[vale iron]

No, the ship will reroll on transfer

So it would lose any extra SC slots and modifications to the stats

[ionic talon]

okay

a few more questions, one of them.
how do xbox and ps claim a multi tool through text?

[fallow meadow]

I am not quite sure what you mean when you say 'through text'.

It is very similar to how you get a new ship. You can compare and add it, or exchange it with the one you have active

[ionic talon]

i thought those were xbox or ps players texting

[azure marsh]

@dusty cliff Only real way to change colours of a ship

Get the ship seed from save editor and load it into https://metaidea.github.io/nms-ship-customizer/ then select every change you want
Then join their discord and run the command the site gives you, you only get one colour search in ur time there though
It'll give you a seed back that should be what you want, then you put that in the save editor

not guaranteed, not sure if it works for living ships either

that's what ive been doing

reminder that with 1 void egg and 10,000 nanites you can find another living ship, reloading save and moving systems works if you don't like it

[dusty cliff]

thx

[azure marsh]

considering what was said in #nms-legacy-ships im not sure it works on living ships

[dusty cliff]

alright ty

[night adder]

It works, but there is generally some trial and error involved, and some combinations simply arent possible because of errors in the procgen algorithm that HG won't fix - they tried to fix Solars 3 weeks or so after Outlaws, and the backlash was ridiculous, tech hunters raised such a stink over textures/sail shape changing on a handful of their finds that less than 2 weeks later, HG rolled back the fix - there are more impossible combos for bioships than solars, and years of posted finds, RIP having all the options be possible.

[steel crypt]

It’s what happens when you cater to stupid.

[rotund timber]

You can paste a code in save editor to effectively change ship color with exact rgb values.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/3826310674204536436/

refer to this post and the links given below.
iirc works on a living ship too.

except exotic ones.

[peak pelican]

anyone made Maxwell the Cat into a ship yet?

[hearty wasp]

do you have a link to a free 3d model of it

that is a gif

not a 3d model

[fallow meadow]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/dingus-the-cat-2ca7f3c1957847d6a145fc35de9046b0

[azure marsh]

oh my god

can the devs just impliment this exact mod into vanilla? https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2036?tab=description

i was so tired of the buggy water so i decided to just try and it fixes everything

[solid hawk]

Haven't yet, don't see why they would now that they're in maintenance mode.

[azure marsh]

It's just. so good.

Water in this game was my biggest turn-off to the point that I made sure to settle really far away from it but now I kinda want to go back, maybe even build underwater

[solid hawk]

Nice, that's why we have mods. 🙂

[azure marsh]

I just don't get why vanilla water is the way it is

constantly shifting depending on position and camera location.. just gah

[marsh eagle]

Arghwater and NoFoam is a must have or VR

[lilac pollen]

Anyone know how to swim in vr? Or know if there is a mod for it maybe? I’ve been searching my heart out

[hearty wasp]

#nms-questions ?

[marsh eagle]

Activate relative world orientation option

[fresh arch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2279 - anyone could enlighten me what light does this mod refer to?

Did you wonder what's the deal with those yellow lights on the sailship - the ones that stand out and don't fit anything? ... That's a bug!
This mod restores procedural lights, that match the sail's color, for the sailship.

Im the kinda person who needs big red arrows or before / after comparison

[azure marsh]

by the looks of it I think it's supposed to be the little light bits on the sails?

Yeah

I'm looking at existing solar ship images

yellow

[fresh arch]

Ok that could be it

Thanks for the pics @azure marsh

[kindred void]

Are there any sound mods? Maybe "warp drive active" announce from eve or some Elite sounds?

[fresh arch]

There are some packs that change exosuit voice to different tones

[dusk saffron]

Frigates: are higher numbers or lower numbers better on Cost Per Warp, Exp Fuel Cost, Exp Duration. And how about the rest of them below, is it better with no numbers?

[merry wasp]

@lunar quartz you probably know better ^

[lunar quartz]

honestly I don't know 😅
I'll have a quick look in the files

I think higher is better for all stats

[merry wasp]

an here i thought you were the wiki expert 😄

[lunar quartz]

I know where to find stuff, I don't know the whole wiki by heart haha

but the negative traits have an explicit negative value in the game files (for example NegativeMedium), so that should mean that higher is always better

It makes sense if you think about it, you can have no reduction or you can scale the reduction to infinity

if lower was better, where would you set the "no reduction" point? 100? 1000? 10?

[lunar quartz]

Also the wiki mostly deals with what you can actually see on screen, it doesn't deal with the game files and values behind it

[merry wasp]

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