nms-modding

[shadow pivot]

Or something with convolution kernels

[hearty wasp]

same answer as above

that's the "procedural generation"

[shadow pivot]

Afaik shaprness filters are generally done with convolution

[hearty wasp]

we just change the input

I'm sure if you're interested in trying to crack the proc gen algo for something as complex as terrain the people at creative and sharing hub would love to have you

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

I know mjstral was just inquiring similar things lately

[raven nacelle]

Does anyone happen to know of an updated alternative to this mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1860?tab=bugs

I'd like to have that extra bit of randomness at the start of the game if possible.

[rapid sandal]

In GCDEBUGOPTIONS.GLOBAL.MBIN you want to set ForceInitialShip and ForceInitialWeapon to false to get random at start.
In GCBUILDINGGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN yo can control how far you start from your ship using StartCrashSiteMinDistance and StartCrashSiteMaxDistance.
An NMSMB script that does this (and more) is at https://github.com/cmkushnir/NMSModBuilderContrib/blob/main/Scripts/NMSMB/Mod/cmk/Start.cs

[raven nacelle]

Thanks. Where do I find these files?

[rapid sandal]

In the game/GAMEDATA/PCBANKS/ folder there are a bunch of *.pak files, they are like zip files. Inside them are all the assets the game uses e.g. all the dds textures, wem audio, mbin config items.

There are a number of tools to extract items from pak files. Creating most mods involves extracting an item from a game pak file, modifying it, then putting the modified item in a new mod pak and placing the mod pak in the game/GAMEDATA/PCBANKS/MODS/ folder.

The script I linked uses NMSMB as the scripting engine. It automatically extracts items from paks, runs the script to mod them, and auto builds and installs the resulting mod paks.

https://github.com/cmkushnir/NMSModBuilder
https://github.com/cmkushnir/NMSModBuilder/releases/download/v.4.6.0.4/NMSModBuilder.7z
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2032
Requires .NET 6 Desktop x64 to be installed: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/thank-you/runtime-desktop-6.0.12-windows-x64-installer

[raven nacelle]

I see. How can I tell which .pak file contains the things I need to edit?

[rapid sandal]

If you use NMSMB you don't care, it will search them all to find the item you specify.

[raven nacelle]

Ah, okay. That's convenient.

[rapid sandal]

If you don't use NMSMB you will use something like psarc.exe or psarctool.exe to extract all 181K files to your drive.

The extracted mbin's would then also need to be decompiled into exml files that you would modify in an editor or use a lua script, then recompile the modified exml back to mbin before using psarc to create a new mod pak.
NMSMB does all that, you just need to specify the path in the ExtractMbin<>(path) call in the script and then modify the desired fields, it does all the extract, decompile, recompile, build|install mod pak.

The main downside is the NMSMB scripts are C# files, and most people are scared off by the perceived learning curve. However there are plenty of example scripts and most of the code is as simple as:

        var mbin = ExtractMbin<GcDebugOptions>(
            "GCDEBUGOPTIONS.GLOBAL.MBIN"
        );    
        mbin.ForceInitialShip   = false;  // if true uses SetStartingShip method changes
        mbin.ForceInitialWeapon = false;

[plain copper]

Is there a mod that lets you teleport to a system regardless of if you used a teleporter there?

[rapid sandal]

I believe the base teleporter just allows you to goto other bases and space stations that are in your save file i.e. ones you've already been to. I expect the functionality is hard-coded to use that list for possible targets. However, what you are asking is what the big portals do, all you need to to is learn all the runes, or use a save editor to learn them, or start a new game with them all known, or create a mod that gives them as a reward (?). ... it is probably possible to create a mod to make the big portals buildable, but there may be issues as the game expects only one to exist per planet.

[plain copper]

I can't seem to get NMS Coordinates to work with Gamepass

[rich bolt]

Changing teleport end points in the json editor can let you achieve what he's requested, you are basically just changing where the space station teleporters send you when you travel through them. But what you change it to must be a system containing a space station or it won't work

[plain copper]

Okay, I've got to the point where I have rough Coordinates, I don't know if they are usable

65359.31640625,
-6783.4609375,
-574639.4375

{
"Waypoints":[
{
"Address":{
"VoxelX":-1044,
"VoxelY":-3,
"VoxelZ":-1287,
"SolarSystemIndex":91,
"PlanetIndex":3
},
"Type":{
"GalaxyWaypointType":"Gameplay_Mission"
},
"EventId":"^FACT_SE_WEAPGUY2"
}
]
}

[rich bolt]

You guys did give me an idea for a new addition to my base though, so thank you

[plain copper]

Wait, is this right? Portal Hex: 305BFDAF9BEC
Galactic Coordinate: 03EB:007C:02F8:005B
X-Y-Z: -1044,-3,-1287
System Index: 91
Planet Index: 3

[rich bolt]

On today's episode of "What did he do this time?..."

I've discovered how to add the glyph portal in my bases and freighter!

I call it the Personal Glyph Portal (or PGP for short)

It's fully functional, provides the glyph address for the system you're in and you can input an address to travel to whatever system you desire!

[hearty wasp]

I've had this since 2017

[hearty wasp]

you can just use a save editor

[night adder]

@hearty wasp I was aware that the Portal at base had been done previously, but was under the impression it required a build mod - is that not so?

[hearty wasp]

that screenie was from Eucli-ea's page

using an interaction to add in another scene is just another method lol

[night adder]

Yep, but I consider a save editing method superior to mod, because it's nearly universal, whereas mods apply solely to the PC players.

[hearty wasp]

sure

[night adder]

Plus Luci is putting together a bunch of possibilities using his method, and is simply posting his progress piecemeal while doing research - what he's got figured out is already a pretty impressive array of options. 😄

[hearty wasp]

yeah no denying that

I'm just flexing

[night adder]

Fair 'nuff - Lucifer spent some time as one of my 'students' last year, and has been a friend ever since, so I'm just sticking up for him
😄

[hearty wasp]

interaction > trigger action > scene addition is more versatile but not for buildables

that's why I can flex on that

unless they'd replaced the NPC with the scene directly

in which case is a plain funny way to do things

[fresh arch]

Question: I did a mod thingy that adds colors to item use case labels like described yesterday (see image). I did it with NMSMS by decompiling the MBIN file, making changes, compiling it again and packign into a mod. I see lots of mods coming with both a LUA file for AMUMSS and the PAK mod file. I would like to create a LUA script that will do the same change I made manually. Is there any resource to get me started with LUA scripts for NMS?

[hearty wasp]

There's a respository of luas that you can use as reference
https://github.com/MetaIdea/nms-amumss-lua-mod-script-collection

[night adder]

It is, and one of the uses for it has some game-changing ramifications in tech hunting. That one is still a work-in-progress though, so I won't discuss details before Lucifer posts it publicly.

[hearty wasp]

AMUMSS also has docs on script rules in the main install folder

[hearty wasp]

cool cool

[night adder]

I get as much satisfaction from the discoveries of players I've taught as my own - I figure more people innovating is always more better. 🙂

[hearty wasp]

for sure dude

it's a p interesting implementation in itself

[fresh arch]

Ok so I think I got it working

Could someone be kind enough to "proofread" it?

Would like to know if I got at least the basics correct

[hearty wasp]

if you can upload the lua here, sure

[fresh arch]

Also if you could enlighten me what's the deal with having to use double brackets for sections

[hearty wasp]

looks good

[fresh arch]

I started reading what you posted before but deleted

So it's like the first bracket notes a set / collection of objects {...}

[hearty wasp]

yeah cos I misremembered that part

it used to house the pak source as well

[fresh arch]

And the second bracket is the object { MBIN }

So I could have 1 script modyfing the contents of multiple files with:

{ { MBIN 1 changes }, { MBIN 2 changes} , ... }

Like that?

[hearty wasp]

you do that under MBIN_CHANGE_TABLE

[fresh arch]

Ok I think it's still a bit too early for me to read that deep into the documentation

I think working on some examples would give me some more understanding

Still, thanks for your help

[hearty wasp]

just read it when you need to use it

that's what I do

[lime mesa]

Can you mix on Xbox?

[vale iron]

If you mean mod, no

[lime mesa]

Yes I meant mod

Stupid auto correct

[hearty wasp]

if you turn the fan into a rotating paddle you can prolly mix using an xbox tbh

[plain copper]

Is there a way to use the save editor to change a choice you made in the story line?

[rapid sandal]

You can edit the json section related to missions and stages, but knowing which to change and what stage to set may take quite a bit of research.

[plain copper]

Hmm

Oh, @rapid sandal, I managed to use those coordinates I found in my JSON last night to get back to the system I had lost

[night adder]

@plain copper If the choice youre referring to is ||birthing a star, far easier to simply edit the Star Seed blueprint in||

[plain copper]

That I know, it's actually because I feel bad about the end of the story

[night adder]

Okies, that decision is the only one in the story where 1 choice gets you a blueprint and the other means it's unobtainable forever unless save edited, so I mentioned it just in case that was what you were alluding to.

[plain copper]

I can see how you thought that. It's more of a moral conflict lol

[flat moth]

Best thing i did with save editor so far lol

[shadow pivot]

can you edit bytebeats with save editor/base editor?

[hollow swift]

@rich wave duplicate glitch that's what i did

[rich bolt]

Made a walker that stands up when I walk near it and curls up into a ball when I walk away (must have been a dog in a past life)

[fresh arch]

I kinda dig the vertical window thingy

Is the whole model imported from somewhere or did you model it?

[rich bolt]

I pulled out from the archives, it's a model from nms

Just like these 2

[merry wasp]

@fresh arch grats on your first mod

go get your modder role 🙂

[fresh arch]

Thanks

Oh right that was a thing

[merry wasp]

also

i'd seperate your lua from your pak

lua need less updating 😉

so when you update you only need to grab your pak

but thats me ofc

[fresh arch]

You mean like make the PAK download a main file and LUA as optional?

Yeah I just took example from Lo2k, they are packing both in one ZIP

[merry wasp]

that how i do it

[fresh arch]

But yeah I see the logic behind it

Thanks for the tip

[merry wasp]

but again everyone has their own way of working

im just lazy 😄

[merry wasp]

@gaunt elm good news? ShipStoreV2 now has a lua

bad news it takes 30mins to compile

just an fyi

[gaunt elm]

Well for now I haven't tested it in-game after that.
Trying to reach next galaxies, it takes some time...

[gaunt elm]

Btw what do you mean it has lua now?

[fresh arch]

It what?

[merry wasp]

haha

XD

[merry wasp]

script to recompile/merge

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626

[merry wasp]

lol pre 4.0 Amumss it took 20-30 mins for my Craftable Upgrade Mods

[fresh arch]

I assume that's because the changes are for multiple files

[merry wasp]

nah additions

[fresh arch]

Open file, find the right key, change the value, close and compile, repeat bajilion times

[merry wasp]

that take allmost no time

adding and removing on the other hand

altho im only doing 22 add to reward table

each add is 1 entrie with 10k options

so

maybe to much text for AMUMSS to handle properly

[gaunt elm]

I'm someone who doesn't write code or mostly don't know stuffs about it so why should I recompile and merge mod with AMUMSS?

What's the benefit of doing it?

[merry wasp]

you can actually use mods that edit the same file

while if you dont it might be that 1 ore the other conflicts with another

either missing content or features fe

[hearty wasp]

it also makes the mod a lot more update-proof

[merry wasp]

and that

[hearty wasp]

instead of having to download a pak from Nexus every single fucking day when the next update cycle comes

you just wait for AMUMSS to update the compiler by itself and then run AMUMSS to update it

[gaunt elm]

I see.

I can give it try and see how it turns out.

[merry wasp]

made a handy guide if need be

[gaunt elm]

Do you have its link?

[hearty wasp]

not to mention customisation features that could easily become 2^5 different versions on Nexus if uploaded separately

[merry wasp]

yes

scroll up

shared it like 5mins ago

not sure if should ask mods to pin it

[gaunt elm]

I think https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626 this mod's itself not guide ?

Oh wait no.

I'm blind.

[merry wasp]

lel

[gaunt elm]

It says how to use.

LMAO.

[merry wasp]

cough

[hearty wasp]

at least you read it

[gaunt elm]

In my case, I instantly thought link was mod's itself since I only see mod updates there, not a pdf

[merry wasp]

true dat

[hearty wasp]

that's ten times better than the average mod downloader

[hearty wasp]

but a search on Nexus with "AMUMSS" will work

but that pdf will help you on how to use it

[merry wasp]

i provide links to it in my description AND pdf

[hardy aurora]

@gaunt elm No gifs in this channel please

[merry wasp]

bad gunthy

i like me some gifs

[fresh arch]

May I ask what's your opinion on adding AMUMSS as a requirement in the "mods required" section in Nexus?

[gaunt elm]

Yeah I mean I should have guessed, mod's description shouldn't be that short.

Also I like gifs too.

[merry wasp]

its not a requirement

it's advisory

[fresh arch]

Eg. in modding Fallout some folks use to differentiate "soft" vs "hard" requirement

[merry wasp]

you can use the mod without it

bi=ut if you ahve multiple I'd say it a hard requirement

ill show you my descriptions

[fresh arch]

Hard as in necessary for proper functionality, soft as optional, used for the best effect

[hearty wasp]

I add it to my lua scripts because they need AMUMSS to do things

[merry wasp]

HARD

best practice

[hearty wasp]

you can set the file requirement pop up when you upload the file

[fresh arch]

Yeah I know

[hearty wasp]

yeah so I just do that

[merry wasp]

that my standard description templates

and my sticky post tempaltes

And still i get people coming with mod conflict issues

so yeah

[hearty wasp]

just follow your heart

[merry wasp]

so close of posts and bugs

😄

[gaunt elm]

Living ship ones?

[merry wasp]

yes

its called AlienToken in the files

Spawning Sac ingame

[gaunt elm]

I just use save editor for it tbh. Easier imo.

[merry wasp]

well

i don't like to cheat :d

and reload saves

etc

so now you can play

craft some sacs in addition of getting them from frigate missions

[gaunt elm]

I mean technically mod is also cheat. You're not supposed to buy ships from space station or 700 000 hyperdrive jump.

Unless devs implement it.

[merry wasp]

the balancing for me happens in the price

or crafting cost

fe

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1491

thats another one i maintain

i still think it's more balanced then just editing your save

and poof 10k new slots

at least this way you need to do some effort in set-up

ofc other mods might be a blatant cheat

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2623

[gaunt elm]

Well I probably would use this speed change.

Derelict walking speed is way too slow. I get it, it made it like to create suspense excitement. After all you enter a freighter that has been destroyed either by aliens or malfunctioning.

[gaunt elm]

However reaching core is slow...

[merry wasp]

wdym?

[gaunt elm]

Walking speed is slow in DF. That.

[merry wasp]

oh

not with that mod on

you feel like you're having the zoomies

[fallow meadow]

@round haven I would recommend downloading NMSSE from the link provided in this pin:
<#nms-modding message>

For the actual latest download, scroll down on the GitHub page to see 'latest version' in blue. Make sure you meet the Java 8 (64-bit) requirement.

The download is a self-extracting archive, run it in a location that makes sense and you can easily find again

Keep me informed

[merry wasp]

that a bit better

still 30M lines added to reward table

[fallow meadow]

@round haven @ me when you are ready to let me guide you through

[feral drift]

Figures this is the best place to ask but how do I customise how my ship looks using the save editor

[round haven]

i have the file downloaded and i am ready

[fallow meadow]

Would require Raw JSON editing unless you only change the seed. The seed will change a whole lot, colours, parts, but not ship type. To change more specifically you'd need to make changes to the parts separately. That would however result in a ship only visible that way to you, not to others in MultiPlayer.
You could also force specific seeds to match your wishes, for this I would suggest you visit NMS Creative & Sharing Discord

[round haven]

so i want to delete some oxygen extractors

especially the ones at higher altitudes

[fallow meadow]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[fresh arch]

The seed will change a whole lot, colours, parts, but not ship type

[fallow meadow]

Certainly possible using a Save Editor. However, a bit harder to be specific in which extractor to delete

[fresh arch]

Meaning the same seed value can result in different ship types?

[fallow meadow]

Not too sure, but I do know the 'model' for the type is referenced, so I assume if you only change seed, the type remains

[fresh arch]

Like lets say there is a seed value "seed" and I can put it in GenerateFighter(seed), GenerateHauler(seed)

[fallow meadow]

So a fighter will remain a fighter, regardless of seed

[fallow meadow]

I guess so, but I am not quite certain on these specifics. Never messed with this much. I am sure someone else knows better

@round haven Did you download the Save Editor?

First make a backup, just to be sure!

!faq-savefiles

[hardy aurora]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[fallow meadow]

@round haven Let me know once you have done that. We will need to make changes to the Raw JSON save data, which can easily be messed up

[feral drift]

Thank you

[round haven]

i downloaded it and made my backup\

[fallow meadow]

Ok great!

So make sure you are not running NMS

Then open the Save Editor

Let me know if it finds your save files

(check the drop-down for Game Slot, to select the correct save)

[vale iron]

Yes

[fallow meadow]

From what I understood, using the same seed on different ship types, often results in same colours too, right?

[vale iron]

That's what I recall as well, but I'm not 100% on it

[round haven]

Done

I have the save selected

[fallow meadow]

Ok, now at the top, you see a tab named 'Edit', select 'Edit Raw JSON' there and it opens up a new window

[round haven]

Ok

Now

[fallow meadow]

This new window shows a 'folder like' structure on the left, and data on the right

[round haven]

Wait

Do i have to press edit json

It is grayed out

Edit is available though

[fallow meadow]

Show me a screenshot

(sounds like you decided to download a different editor)

[fallow meadow]

Ok, so we will do this with NomNom instead, fine, but let me change as well, so I can properly guide you through.

Click the Slot 1 there

And if Edit JSON remains greyed out, you need ot change settings to advanced first

[round haven]

It is

How to change them

v

?*

[fallow meadow]

Check File tab and select Settings

[round haven]

Yes

[fallow meadow]

Check Advanced Mode

[round haven]

Oh yeah

Saw it

Now i clicked it

[fallow meadow]

Ok, once that is done, it should allow to selct Edit JSON

[round haven]

I have this long line of text

AKA the json file

[fallow meadow]

Left side is where the 'fields' are, right side is the actual data

[round haven]

I see

[fallow meadow]

Should look something like this

Now on the left side, click 'PlayerStateData'

[round haven]

It does look like this

[fallow meadow]

Once that has expanded, you see a whole bunch of new fields on the left

You will be looking for 'PersistentPlayerBases' on the left

[round haven]

Wait

I cant see player state data

[fallow meadow]

Can you screenshot?

I think you may have selected to edit the AccountData instead of the SaveData

[round haven]

oh yeah

you are right

i see player state data now

[fallow meadow]

Ok, click on it to expand. A new list of fields should open up, these will be numbered [0], [1], [2], etc

Each of them is a base, starting with yours, including your freighter base, to then be followed by possibly other player bases if you are in a system that has them

You will need to check which of them is the base you need to make edits to

To do so, you can expand each numbered base, to then check the 'Name:...' field listed

(unless you did not name the base, it would have the default name for the location instead)

See if you can figure out which of the numbered bases is yours you need to edit [X], then let me know

[round haven]

finally

got it

i am in it's file

what now

i see them now

so just delete them ?

[fallow meadow]

Ok, you you found the [X] number of your base, right?

[round haven]

yes

[fallow meadow]

Make absolutely sure it is the correct number, then have it expand and click on 'Objects' in its list (not expand), so it shows everything inside on the right

Should look similar to this

[round haven]

Ok

Done

[fallow meadow]

Above, I have base [1] selected for Objects.

[round haven]

139 objects

[fallow meadow]

Now we can further look into all the objects on the right side.

Click inside the right side part and press <ctrl> + <F>

That opens a search prompt.

[round haven]

The one at the bottom left ?

[fallow meadow]

You'll be searching for "U_GASEXTRACTOR" (without quotes)

No, inside the right side area

<CTRL> + <F>

[round haven]

Found them manually

Whats next ?

[fallow meadow]

That works too, but can be hard depending on how many parts

Now you will have to actually delete those objects, but before you do so, know what exactly to delete, as the formatting is very important

Each object has a set of data

it starts with a curly bracket, then several fields of data and eventually a closing curly bracket again, followed by a comma (or not if the last object in the list)

Let me show you a full block of object data

This would be a full block of data for in this case a Base Teleporter.

For each of your Gas Extractors, the block will be very similar. You will have to select the full block and then delete is, to then make sure the remaining data is not broken when it comes to the formatting

You likely have to delete a few of them as well, so you can select multiple of the blocks for the Gas Extractors

[round haven]

And how to know which ones are at the higher altitudes?

[fallow meadow]

That is going to be too hard to quickly figure out exactly. However we can likely assume that each of the extractors was placed one after another? So the one that was placed last, is likely the top one? Only you know this, I was not there to build it

[round haven]

Yeah i think that is the case

I hope at least

So they are the ones at the bottom aren’t they ?

[fallow meadow]

To know at what 'date/time' an object was placed, you can check the Timestamp field for each object. You will have to convert it from Unix to an actual date/time using a tool

[fallow meadow]

They can actually be in any order, best to not assume and make sure instead, but requires conversion work using a tool as described above

In all honesty, I would just delete the extractors and start over in-game without going through that trouble

Unless it would not be easy to rebuild

[round haven]

They aren’t that much tbh

Maybe you are right

Yeah last thing

[fallow meadow]

(can give yourself resources anyway now, if you wish)

[round haven]

Would the connected pipelines/electrical wires be a problem ?

[fallow meadow]

Then go ahead, remove those blocks for the extractors and make sure you did this correctly

[fallow meadow]

Hmmm, you can delete those in-game, assuming they are not hidden inside objects/terrain.

[round haven]

Ok good

[fallow meadow]

Another way to easily edit a base, is by using a different tool. I myself usually just use Blender plugin to load my base and make changes that way. Might be too complicated for you, or too much to learn right now to do so?

After deletion, check that the remaining object blocks are still showing the same similar way. If you deleted the object that was last in the list, make sure that last object block does NOT end with a comma after the closing curly bracket

[round sinew]

full on walkthrough right here

you're a star, Pixy

[fallow meadow]

See here about the last object block and those before (comma use)

[round haven]

Done

I deleted them

Now should i click ok ?

[fallow meadow]

@round haven Now once you deleted those, you hit OK and make sure it gets saved (verify any changes if it asks). Then load up the game and check if the edits worked in-game, without crashing I hope

You likely have ot close the edit window for a save to be made/verified

[round haven]

“There is one with unsaved changes”

[fallow meadow]

Hmmm, can you show me?

Can always select the file tab after all that, to then manually select to save?

[round haven]

Oh yeah

Saved it

The window is gone now

Testing time

[fallow meadow]

Likely select No and then save first,? Yeah, go test it and let me know

[round haven]

Although i may need to be gone for an hour or so

So expect the reply to be late

[fallow meadow]

Make sure to @ me then, or as a reply. Would like to know if and how it worked out

🤞

[round haven]

@fallow meadow it worked and i no longer crash

[fallow meadow]

Time to party! Woot! 🥳

Now one last thing! Be careful with the Save Editor, it can ruin your experience in several ways. Use with care!

[fresh arch]

Does anyone know a way to get rid of this dust / particle effect when ships are landing on a trading outpost?

I dont even know which file should I start looking in

[fallow meadow]

I think it may be the PADDUST.ENTITY.MBIN in MODELS\PLANETS\BIOMES\COMMON\BUILDINGS\TRADINGPOST\LANDINGPAD\ENTITIES\...
It references the MODELS/EFFECTS/DUST/PADDUST/PADDUST.SCENE.MBIN

[candid salmon]

ok, so i want to have 4 identical ships in my squadron, it's not possible through ingame mechanics to recruit more than 3 the same through buy/exchange/recruit-methods, but i heard good things about the save editor

how do i best approach this?

[fallow meadow]

Check your Squadron data in the raw JSON editor of your choice: NomNom or NMSSE. Check the pins here for links

You'll be looking for PlayerStateData > SquadronPilots. There can be up to 4 listed, which are a combination of Pilot data and Ship data each.

For identical ships, you need to focus on the 'ShipResource' field within, and do some copy/pasta, keeping the formatting in-tact. The full block of ShipResource data is needed, as it describes not only the seed used, but the model, parts, textures, colours, etc. as well

Ah, and would almost forget, make a BACKUP first, just in case! (should have said that sooner)

[candid salmon]

when modding, backups are implied ;)

thanks, i'll give that a shot

[fallow meadow]

Well, you'd be amazed ... better save than sorry, so I prefer to mention it regardless

Besides, I am the one making you mess up, right?

I don't want the blame

😄

[candid salmon]

dev/coder here, nuff said ;)

[fallow meadow]

Ah, great ... hmmm, now what if ....

[candid salmon]

"if i told you to delete system32, would you do that too?"

[fallow meadow]

Of course ... blindfolded even

[candid salmon]

is it easier to have another (random) pilot already recruited there?

[fallow meadow]

The pilot is not important at all in case you only care for the ship looks/type

[candid salmon]

from what i understood, the original problem lies in that there are two the same pilots on one save/squadron, and therefore upgrading one of them upgrades both

[fallow meadow]

If you wish some more variety in the freighter seeing them walk about, sure, pick diff ones, copy/pasta in a similar way I guess

[candid salmon]

my objective is only to have 4 identical looking ships, i don't care about names or pilots, as long as they're not bugged

i mean, it's NMS, bugged is implied :)

[fallow meadow]

Well, as for squadron being pretty much just looks/immersion to begin with, I wouldn't be bothered too much about 'upgrading'

[candid salmon]

yeah, what's up with them flying in our way anyway?

[fallow meadow]

But you can make sure to get 4 diff pilot seeds I guess. The game doesn't care all that much what you put, as long as it's valid

[fallow meadow]

That's the AI pathing, hard to avoid. It is intended to look cool, but upgrade is not making them any smarter

I am not much of a multiplayer person myself, but I would not be amazed for it to be client side only too

Oh and if you are short on pilot seeds, I can give you data to add Nada instead?

or Polo, or hmmm, have been having loads of fun adding all sorts of fun stuff.

[candid salmon]

little context, i'm on permadeath main with 2000-3000 in the game in total, for my permadeath i just want to do the things the way i had them in mind for a long time, including a maxed out, uniform squadron

[candid salmon]

notepad++ shouldn't mess around with the encoding, right?

[fallow meadow]

No, shouldn't even if spacing/tabs is set diff

[candid salmon]

i must have missed a chapter, notepad++ opens it as binary data

[fallow meadow]

WHat are you opening?

[candid salmon]

save8.hg

[fallow meadow]

You need a save editor to then open the Raw JSON data with the included editor

[candid salmon]

ah, that way

[fallow meadow]

I thought you were referring to some copying back/forth of said data

<#nms-modding message>

[candid salmon]

i better get an updated version of SE too then

[fallow meadow]

Saves are compressed, which is what the save editor deals with with additional UI functionality. Technically you could just decompress and do it all raw

[candid salmon]

i know about compression that the lesser i deal with it, the happier my life

[fallow meadow]

The editor does make it easier to be honest, although I do sometimes miss the uncompressed way it used to be to avoid having to do such steps in helping out at times.

[candid salmon]

i'm now looking at the squadron data,

[fallow meadow]

I have a hunch you will figure it out, but feel free to ask if you wish

[candid salmon]

if i already have a pilot recruited, then would it be sufficient only to copy the ship seed?

[fallow meadow]

Does it show a list indexed from 0 to 3?

All 4 squadron members there? Or at least the default data?

[candid salmon]

i have 3 pilots recruited, and 3 pilots in the data and 1 default data

ow it's not just seed, it's also the filename for dropship vs fighter

[fallow meadow]

Ok, so the list has all 4 indices, just the data required to make the ships identical.

Yes it is the full block of data, which has even more than that

The full 'ShipResource' from the ship you want is pretty much required.

[candid salmon]

bit more context, i have 2 identical ships and a random ship, but 3 different pilots using only ingame mechanics

[fallow meadow]

For the 4th pilot, you could just copy the NPCResource of one, and paste it for the missing one, giving the 'seed' a random change

[candid salmon]

i noticed that the block

"Filename":"MODELS/COMMON/SPACECRAFT/FIGHTERS/FIGHTER_PROC.SCENE.MBIN",
"Seed":[
    true,
"0x8C28AF3D0060759A"
],

is the only part that's different in the ship, and the other params are just default init anyway

i'm planning to get the 4th one legit when i have the nanites for it again

[fallow meadow]

If that is the case, then yes, just seemed easier to just copy over the full block regardless of identical data in some/most places

[candid salmon]

i'm one of those people ;)

i would have typed it manually

[fallow meadow]

In case of a 4th legit, perhaps make sure you do not run into pilot issue again, by as said, changing seed a bit

In this case seed of the existing ones of course

That way you can just get it in a system you are at already without having to try trick anymore

[candid salmon]

ow if i wasn't clear: the first two are the original pilots from buy/exchange/recruit, the last one will be a gek pilot-- all 3 current pilots are vykeen/korvax

and i already have 3 the same ships in my hangar

nmsse: saving json is just closing the editor and saving the file from nmsse?

[fallow meadow]

Yes, it asks to confirm (or something similar)

You will have to save one more time to actually get it saved to the save itself

[candid salmon]

let's see if that worked

that's looking good so far

[fallow meadow]

Nice

[candid salmon]

*visible happiness noises*

next step: golden trail for my own ship

the only thing that might have gone wrong is that the korvax pilots both have the same names now

but their appearance is different

[fallow meadow]

I still like this squadron best, for images at least, as they do not listen very well when it comes to following along 🙄

[candid salmon]

you just copypasted the entry 9001 times, didn't you?

[fallow meadow]

Nope, that will not work

It maxes at 4

[candid salmon]

waitwait, now i want to see if i can replicated that in code lol

[fallow meadow]

It is a simple save edit, I can tell as much

[candid salmon]

rip wifi

i see a SquadronUnlockedSlots with 4 true/false elements, that's the leading iterator for number of squadron pilots?

[fallow meadow]

Yes, that represents the squadron slots active as seen on the freighter bridge

[candid salmon]

if i were to set that to 6, is it also visible on the bridge? :)

[fallow meadow]

It will not allow that to work

[candid salmon]

myeah, interface canvas is probably hardcoded or something

still, i could troll a friend with that

back to farming nanites the hard way :)

[fallow meadow]

Client side only though

[candid salmon]

not visible in multiplayer?

[fallow meadow]

Would be a failed troll attempt

[candid salmon]

as in, only 4 of them show in multiplayer?

[fallow meadow]

Ahuh and what I did would not show

[candid salmon]

i'm playing permadeath with maxed out difficulty/custom settings, i could probably add that to the reasoning

"yeah you can't view it from normal save, you need to be in permadeath to join me"

which is true on itself

[fallow meadow]

Would be cool if it worked in MP. Have some corrupt sentinels ... just a few, don't be skeered!

🤪

[candid salmon]

i think it looks insanely cool lol

this is legit, though :)

[rich bolt]

Got warps on my planet 😅

[unique crown]

anyone wanna help me..? i am poor as heck

[merry wasp]

#nms-questions or #nms-lfg-or-trades or just get nom nom save editor

[round haven]

Hey there, is there a way to increase the fps, note that i have all the graphics settings to the lowest and have the resolution scaling at a very low point, is there a way to increase fps via mods or something ?

[round haven]

How to change the game files to read only ?

[round haven]

Is there anyway i change the gas extractors model

[round haven]

I just want them to be a blank cylinder

[round haven]

I already have a mod that does this for the silos

I want it to do it for the gas extractors also

[hearty wasp]

not really

[rich bolt]

5x Atmospheric changes at once ❤️
Gravity Spikes/Gravity Storm/Stone Spikes/Bubbles/Smoke Storm

They are subtle, but really nice up close

[hearty crypt]

Hi everyone! I’m a creator of Back to Foundations mod, that recreates terrain generation and tries to recreate visuals of a legacy version of NMS - Foundation, while keeping quality of life of modern No Mans Sky.
I would love to continue updating BTF and find better ways to improve and get even closer to the old aesthetic of the game. But I have very little time to do it. That is why I would like to find several likeminded people, excited about getting back to the legacy art and exploration thrills, who would help me work on the mod, take a deep dive into a certain part of it, but also make sure their part integrates well within the whole picture. Please send me a note if you are interested.

Here is the link to the mod page:

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/980

[hearty wasp]

have you considered converting it to lua/C#? it'll save you a lot of time in future maintenance

[hearty crypt]

@hearty wasp For terrain it would be super helpful, but I’d need help to do it, someone who knows lua. But for other parts the main issue is not in automation, but in finding the right Color settings, tileset combinations, updating textures and so on

For me alone it’s a big amount of work, but if there is a team behind it, would be much easier and faster

[hearty wasp]

it really all depends on how you code the script to integrate the different components, but if you think it's too complex and too manual to put into code, I understand

anyway, if you wanna know more you're always welcome to ask in the modding discord since it's the best step towards continued compatibility

[hearty crypt]

@hearty wasp thanks, I’ll keep it in mind.

[muted hollow]

hi guys quick question, is there a mod that allows you to have a more common generation of black markets?

[vale iron]

Could you clarify what you mean? I don't understand what you mean by common generation or by black markets

[night adder]

@vale iron Increase the number of outlaw systems, I believe they mean

[vale iron]

I don't know of a mod that does that right now, but we could easily make one. Just say how much of an increase you want

[solid hawk]

Here's the current vanilla probability values:

<Property name="PirateSystemProbability">
<Property name="Yellow" value="0.25" />
<Property name="Green" value="0.15" />
<Property name="Blue" value="0.15" />
<Property name="Red" value="0.5" />
</Property>

[vale iron]

Yellow, Green, Blue, Red? I thought it was Yellow, Red, Green, Blue

[solid hawk]

Dunno, got that from Outlaws version of gcsolargen, before we lost the "labels". Lol. @vale iron

Now we just get value, but no name

Drive the last value way up and see which star color gets a ton of pirate systems. 🙂

[vale iron]

You're right. I just checked my old scripts and they have it ygbr as well. I just misremembered

[solid hawk]

I'm neither right or wrong, just passing on what's there. 🙂

[hushed imp]

is there any mods ya'll suggest for newbies?

[solid hawk]

I looked through the files for btf. Nothing terribly difficult for lua-izing, although the voxelgen one will be time consuming. If you decide to go this route. I've done a couple of lua for voxelgen mods before, so can point you at those to use as a template. I normally hang on the modding Discord.

[solid hawk]

Open the lua script in a text editor and modify the numbers after each star type (yellow, green, blue, and red) to your liking. Vanilla values entered by default. After making modifications and saving, run the script through AMUMSS to produce a .pak file that you can put into MODS for use. Enjoy.

[fresh arch]

I like the mods that skip the initial splash screen with Hello Games logo and other infos

Skip Intro Logos Updated For Waypoint

Also Waypoint Logo Intro Replacer, adds the Waypoint logo to the starting loading screen (flying through galaxy map)

ArghWater and Duds Sky Colours are the basic mods if you want to make your game look better

Though I opted out of some elements of the DSC package like the Visor or Warp plugins

[fresh arch]

Got one question if you don't mind. Why are you splitting the PirateSystemProbability object like that? Can't you just declare one Value Change Table with 4 entries in it?

[hearty wasp]

LINE_OFFSET used to not auto-increment

[fresh arch]

TBH Im not sure what that has to do

I was wondering why there are bits for each system / spectral class

When all could be substituted with 1 VCT with 4 entries

Like this:

["PRECEDING_KEY_WORDS"] = "PirateSystemProbability",
["VALUE_CHANGE_TABLE"] = 
{
  {"Value",    YELLOW},
  {"Value",     GREEN},
  {"Value",      BLUE},
  {"Value",       RED},
},

[hearty wasp]

using param values can be unreliable since they can change more often than field names

using line offsets increases its longevity

[fresh arch]

Sorry but I still don't understand it

Prolly cause Im too stupid for that

[hearty wasp]

we don't target the values of the params

[fresh arch]

I thought it's just like an array of values and I just write new values for all of items

[hearty wasp]

because HG can change em more often

the block currently looks like this

  <Property name="PirateSystemProbability">
    <Property value="0.25" />
    <Property value="0.15" />
    <Property value="0.15" />
    <Property value="0.5" />
  </Property>

[fresh arch]

Yeah so when HG changes them, we compile the LUA script again in AMUMSS, to overwrite these changes with our values

[hearty wasp]

you cannot target 0.25 when HG's changed it to 0.35

notice that there are also 2 params valued 0.15

[fresh arch]

What do you mean by targetting a specific value?

[hearty wasp]

ok so let me get this straight

[fresh arch]

What part of Babs' script does that?

[hearty wasp]

you cannot target the word "Value" because it doesn't exist as a param value

so the only way to target it is to use line offset or targetting the values directly

[fresh arch]

You mean because it's not like

<Property name="something" value="0.25" />

I can't target it with value?

[hearty wasp]

using
{"Value", YELLOW},

means that you are looking for a line with

<Property name="Value" value="0.25" />

in which there is a field containing the value of Value

[fresh arch]

Ok I think I got it now

I thought I could reference the values not by using name

[hearty wasp]

you can

by directly targeting the values

like {"0.25", YELLOW},

but again, HG tend to change that more often than struct names

[fresh arch]

Yeah I get it now

I thought I was doing something like this

// vanilla
float[] PirateSystemProbability = new float[] {a,b,c,d};

// mod
PirateSystemProbability = {w,x,y,z};

[magic lava]

Magic spell

[fresh arch]

Yeah sorry for all this confusion

Im quite literally throwing random things at the game and hoping it sticks

[hearty wasp]

that approach may work better in NMSMB

but you'll have to try it out yourself since I don't use it

[fresh arch]

Was looking through the globals files, found this on the settlements. Could it mean at one point HG planned to have settlements be able to build other planetary POIs?

[magic lava]

Yooo

Can you change those values and have them build these things?

[fresh arch]

🤷‍♂️

Dunno if just being in table with times = being a valid pick for building decisions

[magic lava]

Probably wouldn't be that easy, or there would already be a mod for it

[hearty wasp]

could be using some borrowed structure from an enum

cos that looks like some scanevent objects

[magic lava]

I read the words, but I don't understand them

[hearty wasp]

basically just grabbing the type data from another place in the files

cos why make a new one when there's an existing one that already works

[magic lava]

Like a template kinda thing

[hearty wasp]

something like that

[rich bolt]

I've been doing some tinkering today and managed to locate and summon the infamous Dragonfly Exocraft ❤️

[fresh arch]

TBH I find the Xbox head customization more amusing

Imagine a NPC is asking you to fetch something and all you do is turn the face RBG red and go away

[rich bolt]

Lol that would be hilarious!

[rich bolt]

When was the wind turbine ever a thing???? 😍

[proven elbow]

With the storms raging on certain planets, I'm sure this is the solution to infinite power

[rich bolt]

I want this so bad

it's massive

[fresh arch]

Looks kinda ... unfinished?

[rich bolt]

probably was part of the testing phase

I'm doing a bit of a deep dive into the files atm lol

[hearty wasp]

since before power was a thing

there're base plates for the power modules there are supposed to let the modules snap together in a grid if you look in the files as well

[rich bolt]

Ok, the gravity lift for freighters, why are these not a thing lol? They're heaps of fun, plus they remove fall damage!

Imagine having a portable one you could just use at any moment to prevent death from an accidental cliff dive? Like having a weapon that shoots out gravity changing bullets

[hearty wasp]

try placing em upside down

you'll like that a lot more

[fresh arch]

Gravity related stuff

I know what I want to find to mod

I haven't seen a single one of these events since Origins dropped

[vale iron]

You want to increase the frequency?

I've seen one once I think

[lime mesa]

Yes

[fresh arch]

GIMME

Sorry but yeah if you know a mod that does this or what value needs to be changed so I can do it myself

[vale iron]

I mean I've seen a storm once, not a mod. But I'm searching right now

[fresh arch]

I see GC Gameplay Globals has
<Property name="StormGravityChangeTime" value="5" />

But I guess I need to dig deeper, I havent decompiled the other files yet

[vale iron]

Yeah, I think that controls how quickly the gravity changes when you are in a gravity storm

[fresh arch]

writes 5000

[vale iron]

I found the gravity storm weather file, but still looking for where it decides to make gravity weather

[fresh arch]

What's the name of the file?

[vale iron]

METADATA\SIMULATION\SOLARSYSTEM\WEATHER\GRAVITYSTORMWEATHER.EXML

[steel crypt]

Gumsk...I just woke up

lol

Is it in the biome files?

[vale iron]

That -1 spawn chance is suspicious

[steel crypt]

oh hazard weather?

[vale iron]

weatherhazards.mbin yeah

[steel crypt]

right

yeah for some reason prob cuz I saw that..I was thinking they can't spawn

[vale iron]

Yeah, maybe I am misremembering and didn't actually encounter one before. Could have sworn I did though

[steel crypt]

okay...there are 2 conditions for weather hazards

the planet will be "extreme" or not

has nothing to do with the normal "extreme" weather like on HUD or harsh rain etc.

a planet is either considered extreme in the case of hazards or not.

in the case above, if the planet is extreme then it can't make the gravity orbs

if that was set to 0.5 instead of -1 (like spawnchancepersecondperattempt) it would have the same chances no matter if it is extreme or not

used this to do some tornado testing

if you look at all of the hazards, you'll see they are set so that you don't get some things if there are others

[vale iron]

Oh, they're static, too. Should make them wander

[steel crypt]

AKA if a planet is extreme, it will only do certain ones

[fresh arch]

So it depends on some property of the planet

Do I get that right?

Not just 1) check if planet is weird biome 2) roll the dice and decide to spawn

[steel crypt]

yes, whether it is "extreme" or not

[fresh arch]

Im also wondering if the SpawnConditions value could be changed

[steel crypt]

but extreme only in the sense of weather hazards...not normal extreme weather

[fresh arch]

I see options At Night Not In Storm for meteor showers

And the rest is During Storm so yeah

[steel crypt]

there is a variable in the middle there "chanceofplanetbeingextreme" or something. I was changing that but seemed to have no effect.

[vale iron]

It's strange that the chance of extreme is on every hazard

[steel crypt]

So, I just changed the chance of "SpawnChancePerSecondExtreme" to have the same value as "SpawnChancePerSecondPerAttempt" which basically negates the fact that it is an "extreme" planet or not

Isn't there a gravity weather planet though? Like you would have to be on that planet type to get those orbs anyway?

Not sure if I'm remembering that right

[fresh arch]

Not that I know of

11 types of weird / exotic biome

There are bubble type exotic planets, maybe those orbs?

[steel crypt]

if you look at the odds of them appearing in the weather hazards and weather effect files, they have decent odds.

why don't we see them all the time?

[fresh arch]

I haven't seen them once

The whole reason I asked for this is because I want to see it in action at least once

[steel crypt]

there is a "grav" weather type

[fresh arch]

I played the game for a bit where I was exploring exotic worlds for the Boundary Failures, spend at least a proper handful of hours there

[vale iron]

Maybe need to track down the process for tornadoes and make sure there's not something missing for grav

[steel crypt]

<Property name="Weird" value="NMSString0x80.xml"> <Property name="Value" value="METADATA/SIMULATION/SOLARSYSTEM/WEATHER/GRAVITYSTORMWEATHER.MXML" /> </Property>

I think the planet has to have this condition and the ones in the weather effects/hazards to make them

[fresh arch]

The Gravity Storm Weather looks like a bunch of data regarding visuals and colors

[solid hawk]

@hearty wasp Glad you guys got it figured out while I slept. Those particular values had property names previously, but recently lost them, so having to change each line individually using line offset. This wasn't actually an HG change. Those color property names were being added by MBINCompiler, which got a completely new build script a couple of versions ago and it was forgotten to port over manually added property names from the old script. Known issue and currently being worked on, so the Y,G,B,R property names will be coming back, just a matter of when. At that time, could do all 4 changes in one VCT. Just as a learning opportunity, hard to guess what words from a file can be used in an lua script at first. But, you don't need to guess, use mapfiletrees. Tells you exactly what can be used as keywords and of what types (PRECEDING and/or SPECIAL). Found in AMUMSS\MapFileTrees and are automatically generated when you run a script through AMUMSS that "touches" a game file. Here's the one for GCSOLARGENERATIONGLOBAL, which is the file the pirate system probability is in.

[silent pivot]

no offense, but why you don t keep those boring convo for dedicated modding discords ? most of the people coming are people looking to see if NMS have Mods

[solid hawk]

I just hit a grav storm planet while I was finishing up leviathan redux a few days ago.

Actually we're answering questions asked by people here.

[silent pivot]

yeah, but you also make people leave

[steel crypt]

blah blah blah

[silent pivot]

how many questions are you getting ?

[steel crypt]

<Property name="WeatherWeightings"> <Property name="Clear" value="0" /> <Property name="Dust" value="5" /> <Property name="Humid" value="0" /> <Property name="Snow" value="0" /> <Property name="Toxic" value="0" /> <Property name="Scorched" value="0" /> <Property name="Radioactive" value="0" /> <Property name="RedWeather" value="0" /> <Property name="GreenWeather" value="0" /> <Property name="BlueWeather" value="0" /> <Property name="Swamp" value="0" /> <Property name="Lava" value="0" /> <Property name="Bubble" value="0" /> <Property name="Weird" value="0" /> <Property name="Fire" value="0.5" /> <Property name="ClearCold" value="0" /> </Property>

this is each biome file

odds of it having a certain weather

[silent pivot]

anyway, enjoyy this while u can still

[steel crypt]

shhhhh

[silent pivot]

yep

[steel crypt]

so the planet will need to have weird weather I think before it can make the gravity orbs....I need to check that

[silent pivot]

dont worry for that

you can be sure i dont report all unrespectful behaviour

[fresh arch]

Im sorry, but what's your deal exactly?

This is modding channel, I asked question about modding and started a convo, so can you

[steel crypt]

disrespectful is the word
The bitter irony of YOU reporting my behavior 😂

[silent pivot]

you have no idea how bitter it is

[steel crypt]

After 5/6 years, unfortunately I do

[silent pivot]

yeah, we see you in my modders video

[steel crypt]

literally makes no sense. Try again.

[silent pivot]

the only question i have if you are mean in purpose or just victim of having no real sense of anylisis

[fresh arch]

Ok I will try to bump up the weights for Weird weather for one biome and see if that works

Interesting that there is a table for all 4 spectral classes / colors

[steel crypt]

Ask yourself...why am I still doing this at my age?

[silent pivot]

doing what ?

[steel crypt]

I believe it's weird weather planets but I hav to look

[steel crypt]

what you do ALL the time. I don't need to attempt to explain the bizarre behavior, most people have experienced it by now.

[silent pivot]

ok time to tell my story

[steel crypt]

Stop distracting me Redmas lol. I can't think of the weather issue haha

[steel crypt]

Please not again

[silent pivot]

of course you dont want me to tell it

[steel crypt]

correct

[silent pivot]

you know what, my story reached the right persons already

[steel crypt]

oh good

[solid hawk]

Everyone just relax. People are in this channel to ask questions they want to know the answer to and others are providing answers. Very productive and good for the community.

[shy grove]

@silent pivot Going forward, you're welcome to take this type of discussion to DMs. Keep the purpose of this channel in mind. As Babscoole added.

[silent pivot]

ok , i ll DM the story to @steel crypt hoping it s just a misunderstanding, i am tired of people thinking i am the problem

[fresh arch]

Just wanted to drop a quick thank you for responding back to me, even better with a proper explanation

I will check the file trees later on, I try to focus at one thing / project at time

[steel crypt]

one at a time? But that would make sense 😜

[solid hawk]

No problem. Happy to assist and share what I can.

[wide shale]

Does anyone in here on ps4 that have completed all of the expedition in NMS and has all the rewards from phase 1 to to phase 8

[rich bolt]

How would one determine the name of something in item form on the nms archive?

Example: looking at the Biodome exml file, I can see the path for it, but cannot find out how to make the item from looking at it

I know how to make one thing into another just fine, and I know how to make things that should not be buildings into buildings, but I need to figure out how to find the actual item name of something

[hearty wasp]

you mean its product ID?

if you can state what exact file and line you're reading from I'm sure it'll be clearer to us

oh nvm I see Lenni already answered elsewhere

[merry wasp]

Better ask in #no-mans-sky or #nms-lfg-or-trades i think

[hearty wasp]

If you're interested in implementing custom models into No Man's Sky, there is now a video series on it, focusing on the use case of converting into an in-game ship
https://youtu.be/cqE5YzCIclg

(Does not include tool set up instructions)

[shadow pivot]

How are bytebeats serialized?

[night adder]

@shadow pivot

[shadow pivot]

Ok and what is the structure that is converted to base64?this seems to be just the last step of serialization

[night adder]

@shadow pivot No idea, I went and grabbed this off another server because I recalled where it was, but outside of save editing JSON, I'm not very savvy about PC stuff.

[shadow pivot]

Which server?

[ivory meteor]

How can I get a Golden Vector through save editing?

[night adder]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[night adder]

@shadow pivot

[shadow pivot]

Oh i already asked there

[night adder]

@ivory meteor You need to change the scene file path through raw JSON edit

[ivory meteor]

I have 0 idea how to do that

[night adder]

If you use the invite link above, you can find a ship export file there in the fighter channel that you can use to add it through GoatFungus much more easily

[ivory meteor]

I don't know how to mod whatsoever, sorry someone recommended I look here for help to get the ship

[night adder]

In that case, you're probably better off asking once every couple of days in trade channels, sooner or later someone will deliver one to you - lots of people have them, those of us who have delivered a few times tend not to respond hoping those who have received them will pay it forward. But if we see the same person asking for a week or two, we'll get off our asses to help lol

[humble kayak]

Any way to make a console mod that works like a free dlc?

[night adder]

@humble kayak None

[humble kayak]

Why do PC players get all the fun mods and stuff and all we get is a dlc that hasn't been out in years

[night adder]

@humble kayak That's more due to the console than the game. Instances where a developer has been willing to jump through the hoops required to make mods available on consoles are extremely rare, not to mention the amount of work involved in setting up something in-game to allow them to be acquired and applied. HG has a tiny staff in comparison to say, Bethesda, there's simply no way they could do that unless no other content was being worked on for the better part of a year.

[humble kayak]

Yeah but fallout mods are expensive

Like stupidity levels of expensive

[unique crown]

anyone on..?

[rich bolt]

Yeah

[fresh arch]

You are talking about Creation Club content which is made by Bethesda. Community made mods are usually free of charge

Still you gotta understand modding on console in not a case of copy-paste-upload to a different server. Coming from Fallout modding, mods for PS player can not make use of 3rd party assets, such as textures, meshes, sounds, scripts, etc. That heavily impacts the number and quality of mods available.

There is also all kinds of technical issues coming from different architecture, where games run in dedicated containers. Those block access from 3rd party software like mod managers. Meaning HG would have to bake a mod manager into the game. That's a huge undertaking.

And the cherry on top of all is players willingness to maintain their mod lists. Because sometimes things do not just work (TM). Your average mod consumer is not willing to put work in checking for conflicts, adjusting the load order, patching stuff yourself using a 3rd party app. And it can get really tricky when using lots of mods from different people. If HG cares about accessibility of the game to new players, about out-of-box-experience which plays a big part in impression of the game, they might opt out of in-game modding

[wintry sage]

How do I mod?

[fresh arch]

Check out pinned messages, there is a link to the modding wiki

And a post by Gleam which has the same instructions

[steel crypt]

Exactly. Because it is on console and as mentioned above, that involves a lot of work from the game Dev and the console Dev. All of this work costs.
A lot of people that make mods for pc give hundreds/thousands of hours for free to make them. If they were reasonably priced, some mods would be very expensive. I’ve personally spent thousands of hours making NMS mods. Even at minimum wage, mine would add up to 60,000$ USD + easy.

[unique crown]

i am need living ship upgrades anyone help..?

[silent pivot]

sorry i flooded you

[silent pivot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1612 this one is what you are looking for ?

[unique crown]

i just need upgrade modules and i can do the rest

[silent pivot]

hmmm maybe turn into a save edit solution

[unique crown]

i am on ps4 brother

[silent pivot]

nevermind 😄

[steel crypt]

DUD'S SKY updated v4.08.2
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/507

DUD'S SKY - COLORS updated v4.08.2
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968

@round sinew

[fresh arch]

May I ask what's been changed for the Colours mod?

Currently only have access to Steam Deck where I don't have password for Nexus lol

[steel crypt]

Sure np one sec

[fresh arch]

I would like to know of there are any bigger changes worth getting now

[steel crypt]

Changelog for DUD'S SKY - COLORS v4.08.2:
- Updated _MOD_DUD_NightSkyColors_v4061 to _MOD_DUD_NightSkyColors_v4082 (Changed color of common night sky horizon.) - Updated _MOD_DUD_PlanetFilters_v4061 to _MOD_DUD_PlanetFilters_v4082 (Added custom Toxic biome planet filter.)

Changelog for DUD'S SKY v4.08.2:
- Updated _MOD_DUD_AiShipPlusMoreDamage_v4071 to _MOD_DUD_AiShipPlusMoreDamage_v4082 (Balanced AI ship health and shield.) - Updated _MOD_DUD_DynamicStanding_v4081 to _MOD_DUD_DynamicStanding_v4082 (Balanced standing rewards.) - Updated _MOD_DUD_ExocraftMechanics_v4062 to _MOD_DUD_ExocraftMechanics_v4082 (Removed wasd control from 3rd person exocraft.) (Adjusted fuel rate for exocraft.) - Updated _MOD_DUD_PetRider_v4061 to _MOD_DUD_PetRider_v4082 (Slight adjustment to pet ride speed.) (Several adjustments to pet following and exploring behavior to keep pet from getting stuck as often.) - Updated _MOD_DUD_SpaceshipFlight_v4061 to _MOD_DUD_SpaceshipFlight_v4082 (Reduced phase beam shield leech rate.)
@fresh arch

[silent pivot]

There s people that complains when you update often, and then, when you stop updating, you realise they update more than you did.

Waiting for HG extraction...

i have nothing agaisnt repetitive updates, that's how i work too.
But it's more the "complaining about something you are already doing in order to be the only one doing it". that i wanted to point out.

anyway, i am having more and more hard time hiding that i hate all modders

after 4 years trying to make them understand i am on their side, i totally gave up the last year

but the breaking point was when 4 of them told me at the same time, that they dont me in that community

after all idid... which they totally dont care btw, actually, the more people forget my work, the more they are happy

those ones are the regular ones, the big ones go to claim full credit for the stuff i did

Since the very first weeks of modding i understood where i stepped into :

after 5 years working along them, i not only didnt change my mind, but i have an opinion on them that is deeply worst

i also have a problem with people trying so hard to hide the fact that they are like that , i think that is upseting me more than the rest.

"upsetting" is a big word, it was more a "go die somewhere else you re messing the floor with your blood" feel

i will not stop talking about that until i find someone that wants to listen how big of a problem this is.

i dont mind if they claim full credit "i did the first "3rd person view mod" " etc i intentionnaly let the guy tells it since he seemed to care about it ( otherwise he would have created a drama like never ) but WAW, why people feel the need to to this ? dude, go do something on your own , you will feel way better.

https://youtu.be/Lk1qsnDk3pQ

[silent pivot]

so what happened after that, i left nexus and go do stuff on a website of my own, in order to avoid people creating problems out of nothing ( and "problems" is a small word ) And what happened, a guy claimed full credit for my mods pack and claimed that I was banned for stealing mods. ( and it was a totally premedited move from him ) when i came back to Nexus, they thought i had multiple accounts 😄 but never doubt i was the worst person, i had good time reading all the false infos folowed by insults against me. when i came back.

anyway, i have too much stories like that , but that was "level 1 mean-ness". we r today at around level 20

around level 15 someone carjacked by discord server and taunted me when my community left me.

but if you listen to them i am THE BIG PROBLEM of their community. That's why i say, you know what, you are right mates, i have nothing to do with that community.

i ll keep my ideas for Hello Games inside their feedback poll, i feel at least useful there.

[hardy aurora]

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[round sinew]

@covert vale , Better Rewards (https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1460) for example states that:

Words

Learning words from non npc interactions (knowledge stones and dictionaries) is also 3 times faster (3 words learned form a single knowledge stone). You now also learn 5 Atlas words, instead of 1 and also have a chance (15%) to learn them when interacting with non npc learning sources.

(3 words learned form a single knowledge stone)
this one is real easy to test

you will know if the mod is doing its thing

[grave pecan]

how does better planet generation affect bases i built or other players' bases without the mod?

[round sinew]

same deal as when exploring together, and some have the mod running/others don't - bases might be floating up in the air, for example

[hearty wasp]

it changes terrain generation which can make bases underground of float

read pin for more comprehensive info

[grave pecan]

so its not exactly a great match for multiplayer

[round sinew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471868642204712971/1059879435798577352/image.png

@hearty wasp none of these ^ should affect frigate fleet mission timers, right?

kinda know about some of them, and i don't think they would

better rewards mods fleet expedition rewards - if anything, it should be faster/better rewards right 😄

(context: user reported an expedition going from 18h to 80h or something over a few gaming sessions; didn't modify sysclock, didn't save edit, that's the mod list running+a remove lag mod)

[covert vale]

only learning 1 per knowledge stones, so i guess its not working

[round sinew]

well, not sure - probably not working, possibly being overriden by another mod that touches rewardtable or expeditionrewardtable

i'd check for updates or conflicts

[hearty wasp]

ye

[round sinew]

thanks

[covert vale]

gonna try them out one by one now

[round sinew]

you could also spend a little bit of time setting up AMUMSS, which could automate checking for conflicts

[covert vale]

Oh, it better than vortex?

[hearty wasp]

they serve two different purposes

namely, vortex serves nearly none

and user are recommended to not use its installation features because it often makes paks undetected by the game

[covert vale]

alright, so AMUMSS it is then

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:Modding_Tools

which one do i need?

[round sinew]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/957
Installation:

• Get the latest release from AMUMSS latest releases on Github Link (https://github.com/HolterPhylo/AMUMSS/releases)
• De-compress the zip file to its own folder (like C:\AMUMSS) Making the path to AMUMSS main folder short helps prevent bumping against windows path length limit (in rare cases)
• No accented or special characters in the path
• Always extract to a new folder on any drive, never in any System, Documents or game folder
• Create an exception to AMUMSS main folder BEFORE executing anything
• If the cmd windows closes immediately (or is blank) when double-clicking BUILDMOD.BAT:
  if you are on windows 7. Try renaming 'OPT_Colors_ON.txt' to 'xOPT_Colors_ON.txt'

[grave pecan]

is jjs better ships making this possible or can alien ships really just spawn at outposts

[round sinew]

living ships cannot spawn like that without a mod

[grave pecan]

alright thought so

this mod said it just removes C class and makes S class more common

guess it does more

[covert vale]

ty

[round sinew]

V 2.2
All versions updated for Prisms
Added optional new "No Aliens" { Living Ships } version.
Note : Alien ships can still be acquired with the default in game method in the "No Aliens" versions but will not spawn as they do in all other versions at Space Stations, Trading Posts etc.

i guess "no aliens" version is no longer available on nexus though

ah wait

might be all the same zip

[grave pecan]

🤔

[round sinew]

nope

[grave pecan]

weird

[round sinew]

well, drop the author a shout on nexus maybe

if you want to find out what happened

[grave pecan]

he just never updated any other versions than the main one it seems

its making exotics spawn way more often

[covert vale]

i think i got AMUASS going, but it doesnt install the mods right- i gotta manually get them in the mods folder?

[round sinew]

i'm still going through a bunch of updates - hold on, let me just grab the latest from github

[covert vale]

i watched a video, i think i got it

[round sinew]

yeah, not sure why amumss is not going through this part now

or at least taking a lot longer than i remember it used to take

ah scratch that, here we go.

[round sinew]

really like the "infested biome" inspired one

[odd crater]

They are animated, pictures don't do them justice.

[round sinew]

oh wow 😄

like the cablepods?? 😄

niceee

[merry wasp]

Don't like to promote my own stuff, but if need be
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626

[round sinew]

hehe - it eventually went through, probably just my internet acting up at the time

[merry wasp]

ok 🙂

[night adder]

@merry wasp I was confused as hell for a moment, because I know Mjstral created AMUMSS lol

[solid hawk]

Mjstral did create AMUMSS originally, but Wbertro has had the reigns completely for a couple of years now. Tons more features and changes than when the handover first took place.

[night adder]

@solid hawk Good to know, thankya. 🙂 I was wondering why the caveat about not promoting their own content was mentioned regarding a simple instructions pdf, now it makes more sense.

[hearty wasp]

Video Tutorial Series: 3D Model Conversion to No Man's Sky Ship
Sections Exhibited:
3. Adding No Man's Sky Components and Model Export
This series is suitable for tweaking 3D models for export with NMSDK in use as a generic No Man's Sky scene as well.
https://youtu.be/7gpQy4WpqWA

[lime mesa]

How do I edit my save to get Normandy on PlayStation

4

[hearty wasp]

Sections Exhibited:
4. Material Tweaking
5. Ships of Moar Integration
6. Testing Your Ship in Game
https://youtu.be/7z0ZN7CTEzM

[shy grove]

No save editing available on Playstation unfortunately Playstation 4 requires paid software. Ask Dharhan if you need more info 👇

[night adder]

Not entirely accurate, but paid software being a requirement does mean few PS4 players can.

[narrow iron]

Does anyone know if there is a mod that displays heat haze behind the starship engines

The thing that makes hot air look wavy

[hearty wasp]

not atm but maybe @steel crypt 'd like that idea

[lime mesa]

I can

How much it costs and what is it called

[hearty wasp]

Save Wizard, top google result should be the site

[lime mesa]

Alr

[lime mesa]

Any mod that physicly move the camera more back? Not Field of View...the actual camera position

[hearty wasp]

gcam?

has a lua

[strange dock]

amuse btw doesnt really work for me but ig classic nms modding station is doing still great

[sharp kite]

Imagine blocking me lol

Kid

What are the top coolest mods that works?

[hearty wasp]

Sean

[strange dock]

imagine cheating in such a game ...

[sharp kite]

Using game glitches to increase amount of items isnt cheating its the game

Having aimot - infinite bullets and crazy stuff that requires scripts and cheat tables are cheats bruh
I dont cheat

Also even whatever happens
Doesn't matter
No any reason is enough to block your friend lol
How old are you bro?
Just say hey man
Dont wanna play anymore
Have fun
It was nice meeting ya 😐😂

.
Is there a mod that lets you have 9999999 cargo slots or something?

[strange dock]

my man you were lying to us like a drunk person :) and its not possible to get 10 million quicksilver with 'glitches' because there is no such a glitch... you make quicksilver with missions. I do not want to discuss with you anything because i am not talking to cheaters...Just take my take my Advice and play the game like everyone else

[merry wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626

[strange dock]

ik sure but it doesnt deteckt some stuff

only when i delete the curl

[sharp kite]

I mean why do you need to use it?
I have few mods that are in game file mod folder
I just add the mod "pak" file into modding folder

[merry wasp]

Btw if you guys wanna s... on eachother do it is n DM's

[sharp kite]

Bruh
Whatever you say
Even if you say im elon musk
I guess i am
Whatever

[strange dock]

i do not want and i dont know why he continues like a child :)

[merry wasp]

Cause mod conflicts

[sharp kite]

Okay
Is there a mod to have like 10000000 cargo slots?

[merry wasp]

No but stacksize can be increased

[sharp kite]

Imagine blocking your friend over the game lol

[sharp kite]

Id like to increase it but how
I think i increased it few times at space station

[strange dock]

@merry wasp do you like nms modding station or amumss more ?

[merry wasp]

NMSMB these days

But amumms over modding station cause scripts

[strange dock]

so il just stick to nmsmb

[sharp kite]

POV: me confused over modding rn
So should i stop modding with mod folder manual and download modding station?

[strange dock]

are you lost

[merry wasp]

Ill keep it simple

[strange dock]

dont do

[sharp kite]

Probably

[merry wasp]

Modding dtation: make my ds by direct edits

[strange dock]

that is for anything diffrend when you delet ur mod folder u wont ahve mods

[merry wasp]

Amumms : use lua scripts

Nmsmb: c# scripts

[sharp kite]

Which one is better

[strange dock]

can you even programm ?

ig its what language you like more

[merry wasp]

Amumss has most of scripts, and making lua mods is relativly easy

[sharp kite]

Okay

Ty

[merry wasp]

NMSMB might need minor programming background

[sharp kite]

Who is sayin that?
Mr hacker?
Lol
Hacker callin me a cheater and askin me if i can even progam

Life's funny

[merry wasp]

Lol

Anyhow

[strange dock]

i dont know why you are attacking me even if i never done anything

but please keep that out of the modding chat :)

[sharp kite]

Agreed

[sharp kite]

Extract the archive to the new AMUMSS folder (e.g., ..\Modding\Tools\AMUMSS)

what do i do bruh

create folder called AMUMSS on desktop screen and extract the archive to there?

@merry wasp can u help me setup

[solid hawk]

Just use the pdf he linked. #nms-modding message. Step by step setup

Even has pretty screenshots. 🙂

[sharp kite]

one question

[solid hawk]

Sure. Be aware I'm bouncing back and forth between IRL and just checking the computer every so often, so may be a little bit before I can respond again. GameMaster may get to it first.

[hearty wasp]

they're two different tools for two different jobs

[sharp kite]

Test_AMUMSS_install.bat

i stuck at this part

it wont say ready to go...

[vale iron]

What does it show instead?

[sharp kite]

its bee 2 hours

we are in [C:\Users\Max\OneDrive\Desktop\AMUMSS]
Press any key to continue . . .

this

[vale iron]

And I assume you pressed a key?

[sharp kite]

why im so fucking dumb dude

i wasnt this dumb back in my day lol

[sharp kite]

ty its ok now
ill might ask few question later

wait

BUILDMOD.bat
not asking me for update
what else im missing

when i open it
it says:
MasterVersion = [4.0.0W]
CurrentVersion = [4.0.3.0W]

[strange dock]

you need to wait

[sharp kite]

oh yea

what a nice community

ty

[strange dock]

wdym

its loading

[sharp kite]

ye

??? Do you want to use AMUMSS in [F]ULL, [D]EV or [L]EAN mode [F,D,L]?

i press F right?

[strange dock]

i did D

you can choose

[sharp kite]

okay also

??? IS your NMS game version [P]ublic or [E]xperimental [P,E]?

which one?

[strange dock]

if you havent done anything than P

like im sure u got the basic one

[sharp kite]

wdym

ok

[strange dock]

Experimental are versions that are newer but not yet ready developed so they let people test them

[sharp kite]

thanks

🙂

[sharp kite]

Do you want to globally allow user input requests from scripts? [Y,N]?

which one

@strange dock

hello?

[vale iron]

You can do Y, it won't matter

[sharp kite]

ok