nms-spoilers

[wind panther]

Oh well, thanks for translating it

[viral yarrow]

Np

[wind panther]

It's got the special ship tech in it, too, so it's probably just a copy

[viral yarrow]

It was quite fun actually

Perhaps

[hybrid pendant]

Soo

Like a placeholder

[wind panther]

Yeah

[hybrid pendant]

At least we i know exp 5 is in the works

Wonder if they wanted to release there but had to delay it to january or febuary

Didnt finish it in time

[viral yarrow]

Nah

It’s a holiday

Probably wanted to hold off any potential updates that would need hotfixes or whatever

[hybrid pendant]

Its been 3 months since frontiers u know soo

[viral yarrow]

Ok and? They’re giving us expedition replayability

[hybrid pendant]

It will be 5-6 months between or more between frontiers and the next update

Isnt that a lot to prepare an expedition?

[wind panther]

Probably a content update to go with it

[viral yarrow]

I think the replayability message is clear that this is what’s keeping us busy for the time being

[hybrid pendant]

Yeah we going for next-beyond level gap between updates

[viral yarrow]

For people who need to still catch up if they’re behind

Now you’re assumin too much outta nothing

It’s a timegap that’s during a holiday

[hybrid pendant]

I just think doing 2 expeditions back to back when u could have focused on doing one last update this year is weird

Like u had 3-4 months

[viral yarrow]

Wait wdym?

[hybrid pendant]

Frontiers released back in august

It was the last content update

In a way

Soo i felt like since frontiers they focused on something big and just added those 2 expeditions back to back to fill gap time like u said

But its like a long time gap we havent had a gap time like that between content update in years

Like

Since beyond ?

I know there december between still but

[crisp fern]

there's not been a gap because they've run those expeditions tho

[eternal radish]

I must say I love how telepathy is a thing in this game. How beings and sentient objects can give your character visions.
NMS has a lot of spiritual elements in it and I love that!

[mighty rampart]

nanites are one hell of a drug

[tepid iris]

so just to be sure

we dont lose expedition progress if we dont do the revisited ones eh 😛

[clever loom]

so i did the story mission

and its alot to think about

[eternal radish]

It's deep af.

[clever loom]

There's so many questions to like is there a world outside of the simulation are we in the same simulation that we where given the choice to put aritmis in are we just stuck in a unbreakable loop what happens when I reset are we the only "real" things in a sense who was talking to atlas saying they needed to reset it is the world outside destroyed is reality what happened to nadas simulation

[mighty rampart]

keep playing and read all the stuff that you come across, most of this is answered even if some are intentionally vague about it

[manic pasture]

So I fnished the atlas path, Is the ending just going through the black hole? I remember picking a color of a system to go to, or something

[tranquil fiber]

Yo

There are 256 different GALAXIES, there are completely different planets in those galaxies, no two are exactly the same

Euclid is where you start, it's a good place to be at for the first 50 or so hours of the game

[merry flume]

How do you get the haz mat gauntlet

[small lintel]

research it in the anomaly

[small lintel]

Okay I just ran my first derelict and it was actually pretty spooky.

[heady wyvern]

Yes, the Atlas Path should end with the black hole, after you've turned in the Heart of the Sun.

Or, uh

I think turning in the Heart is only if you choose to birth a star

[onyx spoke]

Anyone else made a bace at artimes grave

Also what happens if I go to the centre of the galaxy in that mission and don't birth a star

[heady wyvern]

If you jump into the core before completing the Atlas Path, you'll still be able to pick up when you arrive at the new galaxy

[onyx spoke]

Ok cool

[cyan mauve]

do we have a coordinate/names list for the relevant places in exp1r yet?

[mighty rampart]

#nms-questions message

[short badger]

why do the 3 npc races not colonize exotic worlds?

[uncut harness]

They do. Exotic biomes can have abandoned buildings

[spring hawk]

@rocky vigil the protogek you see on planets are actually former gek that didnt follow the first spawn in their rein so they got turned into animals

[rocky vigil]

Wait, what?

That's cruel.

[spring hawk]

yep

thats the gek for ya

[rocky vigil]

So they didn't follow the other part of the race into, like, their kingdom or what?

[spring hawk]

like in a political kind of way

[rocky vigil]

Ah I thought

[spring hawk]

they didnt support the first spawn and opposed them

[rocky vigil]

Oh my god.

[spring hawk]

what a cruel punishment

[rocky vigil]

Yeah.

They were bad but now they're good?

[spring hawk]

yes

after the korvax's sacrifice

@rocky vigil

[rocky vigil]

Oh I know

The poor robots got enslaved

[spring hawk]

alright

[rocky vigil]

Korvax are the best race ngl

[spring hawk]

100% agreed

[eternal radish]

I love the Korvax 💖

I wonder how they started out. They are robots after all. Were they built by another race or did they use to be biological beings who uploaded their consciousness into robot bodies? Something else?

[spring hawk]

i think they were once a biological species that moved into robot bodies and created the convergence

[eternal radish]

I wonder what their biological ancestors looked like in that case.

[spring hawk]

no one will ever know

unless HG tells us lol

[cyan mauve]

@warm fog from my pov you probably did the right thing. depends on your second choice. did you tell them what you did? or did you lie to them?

[warm fog]

first choice i lied. i dont know what to do about the second though

[cyan mauve]

(again from my pov) the right choices are to upload and tell the truth. they were in a terrible situation. if they decide they dont want to continue after upload, they absolutely can. and thats their choice to make, not yours.

[warm fog]

yea thank you, the entire story kinda makes you feel bad whichever side you picked. Theres alot of things about multiple parts of the main story that i feel should be possible and kinda upset me

[cyan mauve]

@warm fog well, if you are on the purge now, you already know that you are also in a simulation. 😄

[warm fog]

yup, dont really understand that, and to me that aspect kinda makes the game feel pointless

[cyan mauve]

@warm fog and, just to hurt your brain some more ... ... how would you know you are inside a simulation? lets start with something very basic. it seems quite possible that any kind of simulation engine gets slower when it has more things to simulate. agree?

[warm fog]

agreed

[raven quail]

I didn’t ||let them die because I thought they would like to explore and see the universe||. I lied because I didn’t want Artemis to ||realize they aren’t real, because that never ends well, and I didn’t want Artemis to die again||

[cyan mauve]

so ... one of the highest concentration of objects ("things to simulate") in this universe are black holes. (which ties in nicely with @hushed robin referencing SgrA*) ... do you know what happens to time when you get closer to a black hole? or any other mass concentration (== more objects) really?

[warm fog]

you get pulled in? gravity starts to get distoreted? idk what happens to time

[raven quail]

You get sucked in and get spegityfied

How the fuck do you spell that?

[cyan mauve]

time gets slower.

as in, the simulation slows down.

that has been confirmed even without black holes, just on earth. the closer you get to earth (which is the biggest pile of reality pixels // atoms we have access to), the slower time gets. and time getting slower means the simulation is slower.

[raven quail]

Ok, where are you going with this?

[warm fog]

I understand that. Correct me if i am wrong but the days are getting longer correct? meaning the gravational cycle expands. TIme= slows down to fit the new hour cycle

[cyan mauve]

that there are several proven indications in classical physics that can be interpreted as signs we are inside a simulation. so the question is, how does that matter?

[raven quail]

No. Who cares if we are in a simulation. I can still punt things into the abyss and play No Mans Sky so who cares

[warm fog]

because it makes the question, is reality even worth living if we are in a simulation

[raven quail]

Yes, because you can play No Mans Sky, Halo Infinite, and Fallout 76

[cyan mauve]

exactly. to both of you. it doesnt really matter. because we dont know what makes up this thing we call "reality". and how it doesnt matter if the realitypixels around us are really just bits in some undefined machine. its real enough to us. its the reality we have.

[raven quail]

If I can play Banjo-Kazie Nuts and Bolts and No Mans Sky i don’t give a shit about any “we live in a simulation”

[cyan mauve]

(i really like fucking with people who decided to let artemis die because "living in a simulation isnt worth living" on that one...)

[warm fog]

to me its not about the reality we have . If i knew i were in a simulation it would cause alot of stressors for me. My parents werent my "real parents" and my entire existent was just a line of Code

[raven quail]

If reality is a simulation, does video game logic apply?

[cyan mauve]

certainly. just that in this particular simulation we call reality we call it "natural laws" instead of "game logic".

[raven quail]

So I can’t check my stats to see what the hell is so fucked up?

[cyan mauve]

dont get me started on this, in particular not for the last 1.5 years. also, the save slot management sucks.

[raven quail]

The tutorial is long and confusing

[cyan mauve]

the VR resolution/fidelity is pretty good though.

[warm fog]

exactly, although we do not know if we are or not

[raven quail]

Sometimes there’s weird bugs that cause a population glitch

[warm fog]

sometimes my game just kicks me out for a few seconds

"staring into space"

[cyan mauve]

lots of NPCs have gone complete bonkers here this year.

[raven quail]

You can get perma banned for little to nothing

[warm fog]

must be a new software update

[cyan mauve]

~16~16~16~ KZZZZT

[raven quail]

The last few years had a coding error

[warm fog]

dude the KZZZT confuses me so much

[raven quail]

It’s static

[cyan mauve]

but, otoh, if you are a purely rational being, a feedback loop with static is the only way you can simulate intuition // new thoughts!

[warm fog]

i have 10 hours and 45 minutes on no mans sky in 3 days

[raven quail]

What

Does

That

Mean

[cyan mauve]

reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ware_Tetralogy

[warm fog]

to much work for me

[cyan mauve]

@raven quail at some points, the robots colonizing the moon have a religion that has a special experience of plugging into large antennas which basicly just feeds noise/static into them. 😄

[raven quail]

Noice

[warm fog]

wow

intresting

whats the deal with sentinels?

[cyan mauve]

the antivirus package of the atlas having a bad day

[raven quail]

They are jerks that kill you for kicking a rock but not for terraforming the land into abstract shapes

[warm fog]

both exquisite responses

very scary people too

[cyan mauve]

fun fact? for the first week or so of my NMS career, i thought NPC ships flying overhead were these scary sentinel things i heard about, and i tried to hide from them // not to anger them every time i did see any.

[warm fog]

i still try to shoot those ships with my mining beam

[cyan mauve]

i did that by accident at some point ... trying to mine-on-the-move with an exocraft, bumped up the wrong hill, clipped an NPC with the mining beam ... they didnt like that.

[warm fog]

NPC's dont like if you look at them wrong

[whole sage]

so of i "reset my galaxy" on the atlas quest -- does that reset my game ? ; or do i move to another galaxy ?

[uncut harness]

Move to another galaxy

[whole sage]

oh thank god

[uncut harness]

You can warp back to Euclid whenever

[whole sage]

yay!

[uncut harness]

It used to “reset” by deleting all your bases apparently

I wasn’t around then

[whole sage]

lmao that would suck

[uncut harness]

Nah that’d be a good thing tbh

A decision with actual stakes and weight unlike everything else in this game

just my opinion

[whole sage]

def a cool concept though

[eternal radish]

What happens if you shoot an NPC?

[mighty rampart]

no matter what you do its impossible to actually shoot an NPC on foot and if you somehow manage to it passes through them

but you can hit an NPC starship with your mining beam or a weapon

and well they try to kill you

[open zenith]

hiii

can i have someone to like guide and lemme know bout NMS

just started 2 days ago

[eternal radish]

It’d be cool if it’s possible and then they will attack you. Let your actions have consequences 💁🏻‍♀️

[sweet girder]

yep same

[eternal radish]

I used to think that freighters were hostile ships so I always fled when I saw them.

[sweet girder]

Same, then I realized they were fine

[bitter mulch]

I'm disappointed by the fact that nms is a simulation

[uncut harness]

why

[bitter mulch]

because none of what you do actually happens

it's just a simulation

ur not actually exploring the universe

in the game i mean

[uncut harness]

It does happen. Just in a simulation. The transfer of ones and zeroes within the simulation that represent your discovery of fauna, exchange of commodities, and flying of ships all happen

[bitter mulch]

i guess

[uncut harness]

and it’s a similar justification for putting Artemis in the simulation

For a time, they didn’t know it, and had a blast exploring their simulated system.

Their emotions were very real to their soul, and at the day, isn’t that what matters? Simulation or not, if you’re happy, does it matter?

[bitter mulch]

i guess not

[eternal radish]

It's breaking the fourth wall. The game is aware it is a game.

[eternal radish]

It turns out their reality is just as real as the one your avatar inhabits. I think we just moved Artemis in another gameplay. Like we can start a new game.

Tho I am sad I never got to physically meet Artemis 😭😭😭😭😭

And honestly I only resetted the simulation because I thought it would bring us together 😢

[uncut harness]

so did the atlas just self destruct?

[uncut harness]

Was it though? They were restricted to just one star system, no?

We have the whole universe to explore

[eternal radish]

They had a whole universe

[uncut harness]

[eternal radish]

Just like us

We’re just not in the same.

Same with Apollo and Null.

[uncut harness]

“it is a simulation of a solar system”

@eternal radish

guys

imma go tell the atlas to piss off instead of resseting it

Based.

Based Traveler

also cause i dont wanna have to re fix my multi tool + ship

[eternal radish]

I was just thinking about something weird haha.

What would you do if you put Artemis in the simulation but instead of them entering it they become PHYSICALLY real and when you turn around Artemis is behind you?
Excuse me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[uncut harness]

then i can finally hug em

[eternal radish]

I swore I remembered it being a universe?

[uncut harness]

its a solar system

i feel bad whenever she asks to meet

[eternal radish]

First I’d be shook and I hope to God they won’t kill me but when I calm down I’d be happy to meet them but worried that the military will find Artemis and capture them.

[uncut harness]

There is no militaristic force in NMS that can withstand Scatter Blaster

imagine not owning a gunship and using it as your main weapon

[eternal radish]

You think Artemis can defend themselves against our military? Or secret agents?

[uncut harness]

i mean

space guns

[eternal radish]

Anyways I’m playing the storyline mission again because I wanted to underst the plot better.

[uncut harness]

my ship that i use is basically the equalivent of a mini van with rockets attached to it

[eternal radish]

This is going to be a hell of a battle.

[uncut harness]

im playing it so i can tell the atlas to screw off

[eternal radish]

Me too

In my first gameplay I accepted Atlas and resetted it because I hope I could finally meet Artemis for real then 😭

But in my next gameplay I’m going to give Atlas the finger haha.

[uncut harness]

i mean if you do reset it, dont you gotta basically repair the ship and multitool?

[eternal radish]

You do

[uncut harness]

Yeah fuck that.

gonna give the atlas the finger

Fuck dude im burning so much warp matter getting to the station

TRAVELING SO FUCKING FAR TO KILL THIS FUCKIN NERD

yikes

[uncut harness]

OH GOD

THERES A COUNT DOWN

it is done

@eternal radish

did it, i pissed off god

[still tree]

Yo does any1 know what the next big update is?

[heady wyvern]

@still tree No.

[broken narwhal]

I find it amazing that they gave the atlas it's own language... Now new players will have to miss most if not all of the atlas dialogue.... With no way to do a new game + and keep the words you have learned there is really no way to ever see that dialogue...

Shit... I'm in the wrong channel....

[viral python]

What galaxy should I chose?

I have to reset to one of them

[uncut harness]

did you choose already?

[viral python]

Yes

[bitter mulch]

is this channel appropriate for lore discussion?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[bitter mulch]

in that case

i was wondering

why would the atlas want to keep the travellers apart from each other, if it created them in order to simulate it's creator and therefore try to save itself, why not let them immediately work together towards a solution, why have them all be in separate universes at first?

[spice gorge]

whats the QS mission this wknd?

[bitter mulch]

and do the races (gek, korvax, vy'keen) exit outside of the atlas simulations?

[bitter mulch]

and why do the travellers have the urge to reach the centre of the Galaxy?

[spice gorge]

I saw this video cross my radar earlier today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC4VCYkgZFE

[bitter mulch]

i saw it but didn't watch it fully, i will do it later but i don't think it answers questions like these

i think it only tells the races story within the simulation

but doesn't say if they exist outside of it, in the actual world

[crisp fern]

there is no actual world apart from the simulations, it's simulations all the way through, thus the "actual world" is just another simulation

[bitter mulch]

how do you know? does that mean that the 'actual world' that the atlas is in and in which it was built is also a simulation?

[uncut harness]

I like to think that we are the atlas. The outside force dictating everything

and essentially we push our traveler/player in a direction

[bitter mulch]

i thought the atlas makes the simulations and travellers but it can't interfere with them

but that is actually a good theory

[bitter mulch]

this i mean

[bitter mulch]

however, this still doesn't answer this question

[uncut harness]

i mean i think the atlas doesnt want too many ppl knowing that they live in a simulation

[short badger]

do the abominations have any lore? it's weird that none of the races ever talk about them despite the fact that they have infested many planets, even going so far as making the empires give up entire systems

[drifting pulsar]

This is the best one: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/22412342/no-mans-sky-role-play-community-infestation-griefing-pvp-combat

Clearly just the players spreading it around 😂

[bitter mulch]

well, the travellers are dumb enough to not realize that they are in a simulation even when there's like 15 of them in the space anomaly

[uncut harness]

im pretty sure that anonmly was made because the atlas simulation was starting to fall apart, thus needing a reset

and the anonmly kinda just exploits the fact that the atlas cant fix it

[bitter mulch]

i never found any anomaly lore other than the fact that the time and space done server as boundaries towards it

[raven quail]

Does’t the description of the “space anomaly” main mission say something like it’s “outside the daily lives of the Gek, Korvax, and Vy’keen”

[bitter mulch]

i think that's what implies the "outside of time and space" thing

now a question i never got the answer to

do gek, korvax and vy'keen exist outside of the atlas simulations

[raven quail]

I think nada says something about the atlas can’t do something or another to it, I can’t remember their dialogue

[bitter mulch]

yes yes

[bitter mulch]

this

that is true

lol, atlas's creations abusing it because its dying

[heady wyvern]

Presumably not - they're entirely the product of the Atlas. There's not much information on the reality that exists "above" you, though I think the Waking Titan ARG dealt with it a little. Don't quote me for that last bit.

[icy citrus]

One of the trapped dreamers is Telamon

[bitter mulch]

thanks, only answer i got to it and yes, i also heard the waking titan dealt with the outside world

[bitter mulch]

isn't telamon basically atlas's guide that the atlas forced into the last traveller to guide them to it and help them reach it?

[heady wyvern]

I read it more as a diagnostic system that the Atlas threw aside when shit started hitting the fan, and ended up as the Traveller's suit AI.

[icy citrus]

Telamon is a security protocol to monitor the Atlas

[bitter mulch]

i said guide because i couldn't remember what exactly it was but yes, that's what I read

but i also read somewhere that telamon was actually forced to be the traveler's ai guide by the atlas to help the traveler safely reach the atlas

but that could have just been a theory

gleam, what do you mean by trapped dreamer?

[bitter mulch]

I'll just go by this for now

[icy citrus]

During the ARG there were several people trapped inside an experimental VR - we helped to save some, but couldn't save them all - Telamon is one we couldn't even interact with

[bitter mulch]

1. oh, i didn't play the arg
2. but telamon isn't a person, is it?

[icy citrus]

That's the interesting question

[bitter mulch]

how did telamon, the safety protocol of atlas even end up in it's simulations?

[icy citrus]

Body alive, consciousness somewhere else is my assumption

Then copied

[bitter mulch]

body? but, how can a safety protocol AI have a body?

oh wait

it doesn't have to be human

or any other race

but wait

again

if telamon is a safety protocol AI that's basically inside the atlas, how can it have a body of it's own?

[icy citrus]

My theory is that the consciousness was copied and molded the way the creators wanted it to be

[frank haven]

Okay, for THE PURGE — it brings me to the end, right? Of the main storyline?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[frank haven]

Anything I should finish beforehand?

[icy citrus]

Good time to do the atlas path

[frank haven]

Oh, good call.

[bitter mulch]

copied from what or from who?

[icy citrus]

The host body whoever it was, human

[frank haven]

Up to its (Atlas) end, or should I then jump back the finalization of the Artemis/reset main story?

[icy citrus]

Finish it

Then main path

[frank haven]

That’s super helpful. 🙂 Much appreciated!

[icy citrus]

No problem

[bitter mulch]

wait what happens if you don't finish the atlas path before the storyline?

[bitter mulch]

oh damn

never thought if it like that

thought it was just an AI coded by the atlas's creator

[icy citrus]

Nothing bad, just get something you can't make yet

[bitter mulch]

i should really play the arg

but still

how did atlas's ai end up in its simulations?

[bitter mulch]

ah, alright

[icy citrus]

Apparently it was constructed to simulate possible solutions for a real world apocalypse happening

Instead of removing power when they left, the creator let it live on

[bitter mulch]

yeah, i know that

i just wonder how did it's ai end up in those simulations, more precisely, in the traveler's exosuit

and referring to that, i never really noticed any apocalypse in nms other than the atlas dying

could it be that it stopped simulating the apocalypses when it's owner left

[icy citrus]

Yeah, it has free will now and the consensus is that it is trying to figure out how not to die

[bitter mulch]

as i guessed

[icy citrus]

But it has flaws obviously - not the final and most updated version I think

[bitter mulch]

the wiki does mention something about it being obsolete

[bitter mulch]

the only question i have left is this

[icy citrus]

Well that is mostly alluded to and not directly addressed - the guess is that Telamaon was put in there as punishment, not to help the player - to be able to see but not interact

[bitter mulch]

why would the atlas punish telamon tho?

[icy citrus]

Because he found something wrong with it

[bitter mulch]

do we know what that is?

[icy citrus]

Nope

[bitter mulch]

sad

i heard the lore will get expanded as the game gets updated

hopefully we learn more soon

thank you for your time, gleam, it was a nice talk

[icy citrus]

You too

[bitter mulch]

👍

wait wait wait

one more question

sorry

why does the traveller have the urge to reach the galactic core?

[icy citrus]

That is projection friend, you don't have to follow the path

[bitter mulch]

wdym projection?

[icy citrus]

The Traveller is you, you make the choice about whether to follow the path or not

[bitter mulch]

yeah, i guess i just got missinformed about the urge part, thanks for making that clear

[icy citrus]

I personally did feel the urge to go there, but that was even before the Artemis Path

[bitter mulch]

so did i when i was starting out

but then i realized that i can basically jump to Eissentam by doing the storyline

i still did go to the galactic center once in creative tho

[icy citrus]

Ive done it 20 or so times now, the long way - once the shortcut with glyphs

[bitter mulch]

and warped to Hilbert dimension, i like how someone named the star system in euclid that you warp to the core from "Now Boarding"

[bitter mulch]

20 times the long way?!

how long does one time take? i've only done it with glyphs

[icy citrus]

More actually, I moved from eissentam to isdoraijung

[severe sun]

Time has no meaning to Gleam

[icy citrus]

Oh it takes me a long time - I don't just warp over and over

[bitter mulch]

you are one dedicated player

[icy citrus]

Correct

[bitter mulch]

do you explore everything?

before you warp

[icy citrus]

I skip some planets depending on what planets I was just on - like I wouldn't check out another frothing after just being on one

But we are veering into #no-mans-sky chat

[bitter mulch]

yeah, i noticed

we can move there

[raven quail]

If we put Artemis in a simulation, but we are already in a simulation, does that mean that there are more layers to the sim? What if we were put in a sim by someone that was put in a sim by someone that was put in a sim by someone that was put in a sim by someone that was put in a sim by someone that was put in a sim by someone that was put in a sim by someone?

[heady wyvern]

That is partially the current theory, yes.

[raven quail]

So basically there’s a endless amount of layers

[heady wyvern]

Could be. Or we simply can't know how many layers there are.

[hard niche]

Or its a loop of simulations interfering with each other :3

[pallid thicket]

Not sure where to ask this and I have looked on Google and YouTube videos for the best min max stats gear wise, layouts etc. Didn't know if there was any official spreadsheet or anything documenting all upgrades and what not and if I did not see it sorry I'm dumb.

[heady wyvern]

Most of the upgrades are clearly visible from their respective Anomaly tech vendors. The rest are procedurally generated.

Also this is the spoiler chat mon ame

[pallid thicket]

After some digging I found the tech upgrade stats were not procedurally generated and were based off their ID numbers from 0 to 100k

I found what I was looking for now

Yes the numbers are random so I guess you could say its random but their fixed

Save editor can modify the value for the upgrades with optimal stats

If you have the ID number

[eternal radish]

Lol how tall is Artemis actually? I gave my character a tall body type but I'm still a smol bean compared to them 🤣
I assume that these holograms at the holotermini are life-size.

And yes, "termini" is the plural of "terminus". I looked it up. "Terminuses" is also correct.

[bitter mulch]

does resetting the simulation at the end of the storyline actually prevent the atlas from dying?

[uncut harness]

No.
Each galaxy exists because the galaxy has been reset previously, it's a never ending cycle of resets and new galaxies. Each reset still leads to the Atlas thinking it is dying.

[bitter mulch]

oh, so will it eventually die some day?

[bitter mulch]

and if you travel to another galaxy through the core and not the storyline, does the previous one still get reset?

[uncut harness]

By refusing to reset, one can end the cycle. It’ll all come to an end when one does

which many travelers have. 16 minutes and all that. Just on the scale of the entities within the simulation, it’s gonna be many many many years

[bitter mulch]

oh so it's basically keep on resetting to keep it alive or refuse and let it die

[bitter mulch]

and this

[daring bronze]

WHY'D YOU HAVE TO GO, AND LET IT DIE

[lapis meadow]

something i wanna make clear, havent beaten the game yet. but the logs that we keep finding when we start a new save, for the hermetic seal and whatnot, is that a previous iteration of the player character leaving breadcrumbs for their future self? is this iteration that im currently playing going to have to go full circle back to the starting planet and leave the trail in some sort of weird time loop?

i was looking at the logs for the hermetic seal and had a huge "hang on a minute..." moment

[uncut harness]

Open ended for that exact reason. Nothing to confirm, nothing to deny.

[lapis meadow]

looks like i gotta play the game, but if this is a stable time loop trope, im gonna brick a shit

[granite flax]

what is the fastest way to get to the center?

[rancid ether]

Either completing the story missions or using portals to get there directly

[granite flax]

i have done all the story missions

[rancid ether]

Do you have all portal glyphs?

[granite flax]

no

wait

yes

i think

[rancid ether]

Check your Catalogue menu

[granite flax]

but i wanna fly there myselfe

[rancid ether]

Bottom left

Oh, then carry on

[granite flax]

i wanna have my ship and all that there

[rancid ether]

If you intend to get there manually, use black holes

It will drastically cut down the travel time

[granite flax]

they port you randomly dont they?

[rancid ether]

Not anymore

Fixed exits for every one

[granite flax]

oh damn been a while since i used one then

[rancid ether]

If youve completed the Atlas Path (making the seed things), you should be able to see black holes as purple markers in the galaxy map

[granite flax]

yeah yeah i know i have them i just didnt trust my rng

[rancid ether]

So warp as far as you can toward the center, but only to systems with black holes. Put all your ship tech in the Technology tab so its protected

[granite flax]

well i have my warp engines there mostly but had to put some of the upgrades in the front cause of the max amount

[rancid ether]

The ones outside of Technology tab might get damaged by the black holes

[granite flax]

i know

thanks for your help

[rancid ether]

If you're going for the straight shot, dont bother repairing them until the end

Black holes take you roughly 7K ly closer to center each time. I recommend saving at the station occasionally in case the game crashes or something

[granite flax]

well its almost not worth it then i have 1200 ly with my normal jump range

[rancid ether]

I mean...i made it from 700k to center in about 5.5 hours using black holes, but i also had a stack of all the repair materials for my hyperdrive mods.
I also had a 2400 ly range when i did it

Every black hole was 2.5-3x the distance i could travel in a warp, so it drastically cut down the amount of time I spent in a warp screen

[granite flax]

well i will let you know how long it will take me

just started

[bitter mulch]

what?

[rancid ether]

If i had to guess...
(350/1.2) *20/60 minutes

[bitter mulch]

it's a pain to get to the center just by warping imo

or even by using black holes

just use a teleporter to get close

[daring bronze]

Foo Fighters song

"let it die"

[bitter mulch]

Jojo fan?

[daring bronze]

Nope

[bitter mulch]

sad

ik foo fighters is a band

but i had to ask

[rancid ether]

#off-topic-bond-james-bond

[bitter mulch]

sorry

[rancid ether]

Yeah, it wasnt a fun 5.5 hours. Thats for sure.
Definitely dont recommend

[bitter mulch]

story takes even longer but it's worth it bcz u can warp straight to eissentam

[rancid ether]

I can get through the story much quicker than 5.5 hours

[bitter mulch]

idk if it would be faster to just get to eissentam by using teleporters

[rancid ether]

You would need a teleport location in Eissentam to do that

[bitter mulch]

i will try to speedrun it soon

[rancid ether]

The featured bases are all in Euclid currently

[bitter mulch]

no i mean tp to Euclid core, tp to Hilbert core

[bitter mulch]

yeah i saw that

[rancid ether]

Oh, with core to core?

[bitter mulch]

no no

you use a teleporter

[rancid ether]

Portals?

[bitter mulch]

to get to the

yes

portal

[rancid ether]

Portals, not teleporter

[bitter mulch]

yeah sorry

[rancid ether]

Yeah, that would work. Core to core is faster though

[bitter mulch]

i heard about that but idk exactly how it works

[rancid ether]

Take a black hole before going through. You'll end up near the core of the next one, repeat ad nauseum

[bitter mulch]

ohhhh

[rancid ether]

Removes portals entirely

[bitter mulch]

specific black hole or any black hole?

[rancid ether]

Any

Just has to be near core

Like within 8k iirc

[bitter mulch]

i see

alright

thanks

which method do you like the most tho?

[rancid ether]

I enjoy playing through the story, personally. If im on my main save, ill typically hitch a ride if i havent been there before

[bitter mulch]

yeah, the story is awesome

hitch a ride?

wdym?

[rancid ether]

I ask in the channels here, like #nms-lfg-or-trades and #nms-questions and use the Anomaly transport method

The other player brings me to the place i want to be, i make a base or visit the station, then i can come back easily later.

[bitter mulch]

oh that's cool

[dusty jasper]

||The urgency ughhhhhh||

[empty cedar]

Expedition 2: Beachhead (Revisited) - Milestones
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Expedition 2: Beachhead (Revisited) - Milestones (text version)
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[rocky vigil]

Why is eissentam seen as the best galaxy, when there's other lush galaxies?

[daring bronze]

In the context of ease of access

[rocky vigil]

Because of the story?

[daring bronze]

Because the story ||takes you there||, yeah

[rocky vigil]

Oh, aight.

Any reason to take the other option?

(options)

When resetting the Galax?

[daring bronze]

The increased chance of specifoc types of biomes in yellow systems is the only change, aside from each planets ships and whatnot being different obviously

Dark blue are increased regular planets (simple hazards) light blue is dead planets, red is more extreme weather planets, and green is more lish planets

[rocky vigil]

Oh, dead planets. They're pretty nice, ngl

[daring bronze]

They gots low gravity

Note that red, green and blue systems are unaffected

[eternal radish]

It's true that you have to ignore Atlas to choose your galaxy, right?

Because last time I reset Atlas and I got thrown into Calypso.

I want to go to a galaxy with many lush planets.

[heady wyvern]

You must accept the Atlas's offer to reset in order to make that choice. However, note that - despite what the quest log says - you must not jump into the core before the countdown can complete

[eternal radish]

So, wait until the countdown ends?

[pallid thicket]

Could anyone give me opinion on my ship layout? I'd post public but don't want to put it in screenshots since I don't think it's really a screenshot

[daring bronze]

The countdown never ends, I think they mean don't core warp outside of the quest

If you look at what i said, it matches what happened to you

[raven quail]

What are the “keys” it’s referring to?

[empty cedar]

Just progress your milestones, you'll see.

[crisp fern]

Waking Titan info from the old ARG, wherein the Atlas sub-simulation was revealed to have been created as an experiment to reveal the nature of the creators' reality through predictive capabilities

The idea being, to paraphrase, that if it was able to entirely accurately predict the future, this would provide evidence of the creators' reality being a simulation. Over the course of the ARG, it's demonstrated that the Atlas sub-simulation possesses this capacity and thus the creators' reality is itself a simulation.

Later in the game itself, I believe through boundary failure logs or Remembrance terminals, this idea is amplified to the whole of existence

[eternal radish]

You mean during the quest?

[daring bronze]

I mean "other than the way the quest tells you to do" which counterintuitively means, in this situation: "follow the waypoint"

[eternal radish]

Ok. I don't understand.

[bitter mulch]

dang

[eternal radish]

Oooh I think I finally understand now. I remember when you are in the last Atlas interface there is a countdown from sixteen to zero. And you have to wait out the countdown in the last Atlas interface BEFORE making your choice.

I forgot how things went the last time I did the Atlas path and I believed the weird noises you heared when the Atlas was supposedly dying were the countdown but it was the 16 to 0 countdown in the last interface you guys were talking about when trying to explain it to me.

Excuse me if I seem so dumb haha. I'm so new to this game. I have only been playing it for two months now vs some of you guys having played it since launch.
With my first gameplay I was way too busy with figuring out how the game worked so I couldn't focus on the storyline properly 😅

[dense phoenix]

I mean hey, you had a good reason
I payed attention and did not understand a thing I was doing

[bitter mulch]

same lmfao

i only understood it the second time

and when i researched the lore and storyline on Google

[eternal radish]

I think I will watch a youtube video about resetting the Atlas and what you should do when you want to choose your type of galaxy.

[eternal radish]

NMS should have an in game handbook for lore stuff.

[bitter mulch]

what you should do?

do what you want

thats what NMS is about, right?

i just read lore on Google but you can watch a yt vid about it if u want

[eternal radish]

I want to go to a lush galaxy.

Also, another thing, when Apollo was trying to meet up with the player and it wasn't working why didn't both Apollo and the player agreed to see eachother at the Anomaly since that appears to be the only place where travellers can physically meet eachother?

[bitter mulch]

ask them lol

[bitter mulch]

then choose the green, tranquil galaxy

[daring bronze]

The countdown never ends

You don't need to wait for anything to use the last interface to go to another galaxy. You either accept it and reset into a new galaxy, or refuse it and stay

[eternal radish]

In the last Atlas interface there was a countdown from 16 to 0. I remember that.

[daring bronze]

No, there was a time limit of 16, but it never counts down

[eternal radish]

But nothing significant happened afterwards.

[daring bronze]

Yeah

You either go to a new galaxy, or leave

The "16" timer is left ambiguous on purpose

Seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades?

We don't know. It's just flavor text for the lore and had no actual affect

[eternal radish]

So, the countdown goes from sixteen to zero and then continues below zero (?) for an undetermined amount of time?

[daring bronze]

No it doesn't do anything

[eternal radish]

It goes like 16, 15, 14, 13, 12......... 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0 and it is unknown how long this "zero" lasts?

[daring bronze]

There's no actual countdown

[eternal radish]

Yes, but lore wise?

[daring bronze]

As far as i understand, it never counts down lore-wise either

Which is, I think, a symptom of the atlas being damaged

[eternal radish]

If only that option was available haha. If you create custom made answers I'd ask all NPC's in depth questions.

[bitter mulch]

yeah

[eternal radish]

But in the last interface there really was a countdown from 16 to 0, but nothing happened after that, if I remember correctly?

[eternal radish]

Sadly you are bound to certain replies.

[daring bronze]

Yeah nothing happens

[eternal radish]

And then after the timer ends you have to choose your galaxy?

[daring bronze]

You have to accept or decline to reset the galaxy

Or I believe you can just leave

[dense void]

Yeah, you can leave, if you aren't ready to jump yet

[bitter mulch]

yes

[crisp fern]

the anomaly didn't work that way when the story was originally written & implemented

they largely prioritize gameplay over story, making it kind of undermine paying much attention to any major plot points

[eternal radish]

Though I love the storyline but I also love the freedom you have.

[orchid star]

Well, headcanon accepted that Mass Effect is also a simulation line in this great computer we live in

Albeit it's a simulation where, instead of just simulating a galaxy, you're simulating how humankind might react as space explorers

And Star Child is their version of Atlas

Prove me wrong

[ocean wyvern]

All I can say is you dont have to spoiler tag in the spoiler channel 😝

[pure night]

Lol

[orchid star]

Never can be too careful :p

But yeah, imagine, It takes eight years for Mass Effect's ending to make sense

[vague oriole]

I'm pretty sure that at some point it is nentioned that it's 16 seconds in whatever universe the atlas is in

[hollow oxide]

16 minutes

Not 16 seconds

It's mentioned as being 16 minutes in several of the Remembrance terminals

[brave wave]

and at the end of artmis path

but inside the simulation it could be forever

tbh i think there should be an achievement for reaching the center of the galaxy within 16 irl minutes of seeing that text in the storyline

[short badger]

This is your last chance to experience the unique challenges and rewards of "Beachhead", discover why the Normandy is here, and welcome it into your fleet.```

so uh

did that ever happen? did I miss it?

I don't think the expedition has any explanation for why the normandy is in NMS

You reach the rendezvous and the game is like, "ok here's a new thing in your inventory. What is it? Where did it come from? Not important, go find some artifact sites and use this thing to try and create a map of why there's weird stuff going on in these recorded histories"
Then you gotta buy a "myth beacon" (?!) because it leads you to the source of the discrepancies, and you use it, and... here's the Normandy! Congrats, expedition over.

I don't think there was any explanation for why the Normandy is here, or why it's causing discrepancies, or why it's willing to join your fleet. Really, there's not much explanation for anything.

[brave wave]

welcome to crossover events

[short badger]

Absent any canon explanation, I think we can only conclude that Shepard ran out of aliens to bang, but he wasn't going to let the limitations of one franchise stop him

[fervent lake]

Is it right to conclude that the in-game plot explanation and game mechanics explanation relatively the end of the atlas plot ('rebooting' the reality) actually differ? cause the plot would tell you that you've just rebooted the thing, but the game would tell you that you're just in another galaxy and can return to the previous one using just the portals

[uncut harness]

There was a point where resetting would delete all your bases

So it used to have consequences

[fervent lake]

haha

i can see why they changed it

[prisma meteor]

lmao

[fervent lake]

I like trying to help the game by adding some explanations on my own, was thinking here about galaxies actually being in different time, meaning every next galaxy is created after the previous one is destroyed by a protagonist like us, but the flights between galaxies also make us travel in time in global sense
But that's of course a big stretch

[prisma meteor]

so resetting have no consequences?

[fervent lake]

@prisma meteor technically it'll be just a free ticket to another galaxy

[prisma meteor]

oh hell naw then

[uncut harness]

Saves you the trouble of having to taxi or core jump to or Calypso or Budullangr or Eissentam if that’s what you’re looking for

[fervent lake]

you can return to the previous one using the portals

[uncut harness]

*teleporters

[fervent lake]

huh

[uncut harness]

portals are intragalactic

[fervent lake]

they are?

[uncut harness]

yes

[fervent lake]

wow

that's cool

I like it

[prisma meteor]

wait isn't intergalactic within a galaxy and intRAgalactic between galaxies?

[uncut harness]

other way

[prisma meteor]

damn

science is confusing

englis hard

[fervent lake]

I guess that means there are =< 16^12 planets in one dimension

[prisma meteor]

wait so what does the other option do?

[fervent lake]

nothing

[prisma meteor]

damn you game for scaring me like that lmao

[fervent lake]

you're just staying in your galaxy because it'll take ages till the 16 minutes in Atlas's reality pass

I guess that may feel like a more lame ending

[uncut harness]

The story has little weight if you look to others for answers first before finishing it yourself imo

[fervent lake]

I think it's actually fine

I regret I didn't look for the answers first

[uncut harness]

That’s a first I’ve heard

[orchid star]

It makes perfect sense if you consider Mass Effect to be from another simulation

Thus the historiographical fluxes

And the portal gates are a means of briefly crossing two simulation programs

And copy pasting items from one to another 😄

[short badger]

by that logic every video game that has ever been made is part of the NMS canon

[orchid star]

Bingo!

Well not exactly but

Boxes in boxes

The simulation has layers

To the point where one simulation can be so far removed from another they are unaware of its existence

[short badger]

then why is it that whenever you reset the simulation you always end up in a NMS galaxy with the same 3 races, the same technology

by this logic you should push the button and wake up as a pong paddle

[orchid star]

Nope

Think of like any given computer program

Excel vs…Paint MS

They are different programs with different functionality and usage

They may share hard drive space and may share certain functions

But you’re not going to be editing pictures and photos onnExcrl

Excel

Likewise

No Man’s Sky’s Atlas program has one primary function, simulation of a galaxy

[short badger]

so the atlas is the operating system

[orchid star]

Yes

Or rather a program on the OS

A very intelligent and advanced program

The OS would technically be Emily in this case I believe

But in NMS /Altas’s case it’s galaxy simulation with open world to see a life cycle of a galaxy

In Mass Effect/Star Child’s case it’s to understand what would happen when humans are added to space and what choices could be made based on a human like morality system

Both have a somewhat common function with some similarities

But both wouldn’t normally cross without a glitch in the system or the user willfully copy pasting

Yeah

[short badger]

Who's Emily?

[orchid star]

Emily is an AI

Who is basically the true creator of No Man's Sky in-universe, for all intents and purposes

It's Complicated

[bitter mulch]

is warping to a new galaxy through the core of the one you're currently in also resetting the simulation like in the end of the story

[brave wave]

i think so

though resetting the sim doesn't change anything really

[muted moth]

at the point where you can ||freely travel between galaxies as long as you have a base computer or one of the space stations from the other galaxy in your telport list|| the whole ||reset thing|| doesn't make a lot of sense but eh who cares 😄

oh. I didn't need to do that, meh this is the spoilers channel, sorry

[heady wyvern]

HG tends to prioritize gameplay over story in a lot of places

[muted moth]

well it's all a simulation so we can write it off as more glitches in the system

[supple crater]

you uh

don't need to use spoiler tags in the spoilers channel

[muted moth]

as I said in the very next thing I typed... after I remembered where I was 😛

[eternal radish]

Either that or Atlas is lying.

[brave wave]

or its because of the atlas degrading over time

[eternal radish]

Could be. That once in a while someone needs to give it a "boost" aka a reset.

[brave wave]

my thought it somehow the degrading is cuasing it to not reset fully, aka keeping bases

[fervent lake]

I like this idea to it

[marble jetty]

I was never a fan of the “it’s a simulation” lore in games

I choose to make up my own lore for my character to counteract the simulation lore

[eternal radish]

To me it's just the game breaking the fourth wall and realising it's a game.

[marble jetty]

Huh

[daring bronze]

Yeah that's what I got from it as well

We're the makers of the atlas, and we control how the worlds are made

[ionic plover]

If only I could do that in game

[daring bronze]

If only we could do it in real life lol. They need to give modders more control

[round dagger]

how the heck do i actaly get saved?

[uncut harness]

repent for your sins and accept Him as your Lord and Savior

[round dagger]

no in game

I have my own 9 Gods accepted

trying to get The Timeless Title, and I gotta get "saved by the Atlas" but idk how since all there is for me atm is star seeding

[raven quail]

You save by placing down a save beacon and using it

[fickle canyon]

he means the get saved by atlas milestone

[raven quail]

I was making what is known as a “joke”

[fickle canyon]

lolz..

[round dagger]

not funy to me

try to be helpful pls

[raven quail]

In that case, I got nothing

Maybe go to a lot of the atlas station thingys

[broken narwhal]

I'm seeing your struggle... I'm trying to look up a solution for you but Google is being a pain right now.... Not really showing me what I want to see.... But I am trying to help you find a solution

[round dagger]

if i cant do it on my main i may have to switch to a completed exped save, since havent done AP on it yet

[broken narwhal]

To get the timeless you have to refuse to reset the simulation... Not really sure how that is being saved by the atlas but so far that's all I have really found....

I'm still looking though.

[fickle canyon]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Player_Titles

[icy citrus]

You get timeless by making the choice at the end of the Artemis path

Either option gives it, walking away does not

[fickle canyon]

yeah its an ingame duplicate

u complete it by refusing to reset the simulation

[broken narwhal]

That's one I was looking at but there are 2.... The other page I was looking at just had ??? By the timeless... I'm not even sure if I have that one or not... Will look later.

@round dagger they got it answered for you!

[icy citrus]

Yes, you get it for resetting or not resetting

[fickle canyon]

not resetting

[icy citrus]

Both lol

[fickle canyon]

ohh

lol

[icy citrus]

That's why it's a duplicate

[broken narwhal]

That explains why it says in game duplicate... Guessing there are 2 ways to get it

[icy citrus]

Aye

[broken narwhal]

You beat me to it gleam lol

[fickle canyon]

ahh that makes sense then

[round dagger]

but i did reset and still nothing, time to reset on exped

[round dagger]

Newman, I already did the Artemis path on my main save

[supple crater]

Newman?

[round dagger]

Seinfeld doesnt like Newman…

sadge no gifs here

[supple crater]

Right

[marble jetty]

[rose hamlet]

so the gek went from war to trade because of the korvax but uh

why... did the gek allow them to do what they did to their spawn pools

[daring bronze]

Iirc, they didn't know what would happen

It wasn't like a coup or anything

[sullen hornet]

Im still thinking about that station override lol

So confusing

Hello games have

-Added a terminal in every space station that needs a station override

-Added the override in game, but it has no functionality, as it is apparently counterfeit

-Released numerous updates since with no word or update to it

Why tho

Probably teasing something, but its certainly an odd way to go about it

Not unusual for hello games

[brave wave]

true

[static abyss]

Prob gonna be big

[sterile smelt]

take over space station

[heady wyvern]

Alr what is this bulldickery

[round dagger]

@heady wyvern "The Timeless" has two versions, to Be saved by the Atlas (reset) and Refuse the Atlas

[heady wyvern]

Huh

Well since we're here, I can say that those seem pretty self-explanatory.

[round dagger]

so I assume then it would award the latter..

well yes but explanation IN GAME is only seen after it pops

[proper stone]

The another is from atlas patg, afaik

[round dagger]

wrong

[heady wyvern]

That's why we're here

It decidedly isn't

[round dagger]

you just told me the title is part of Artem quest so that means they both are part of Artem

cause its a duplicate name based on a difference in answer to the Atlas

a Timeless title is rewarded both by Saving Atlas, and by Refusing (or so I assume)

[proper stone]

One is refuse to reset
Another is saved to atlas which is get star seed, iirc

[heady wyvern]

I'm thinking about it being:

• One for accepting the reset at the Last Interface.
• One for refusing the reset at the Last Interface

[round dagger]

^^^

i should check star seed quickly though since thats all i have dam time for atm

[proper stone]

Wiki says take reset is the Last

[round dagger]

TO MAKE SUR

[round dagger]

wiki is slightly outdated

[heady wyvern]

Legion here is at the point where they should've had the Star Seed blueprint - they don't have either version of the title.

[round dagger]

I have the Saved version just not refused

[heady wyvern]

wait huh

[proper stone]

And saved byatlas is next to discover atlas, so i assume this is relatef to atlas path, but only assume

[heady wyvern]

now I'm confused about what exactly you've done

[round dagger]

have

[proper stone]

So u didnt get star seed yet?

[round dagger]

MISING

[heady wyvern]

And you've completed the Artemis Path by accepting the reset?

[heady wyvern]

Hmm

[round dagger]

if thats not complete then...

[heady wyvern]

That's definitely complete

[round dagger]

ok so should i continue my survival save and refuse ?

[heady wyvern]

So you have the Saved version, not the Refuse version

[round dagger]

or should i check quickly and rebirth

yes

[proper stone]

Do u have the Last title?

[round dagger]

aye

[proper stone]

And if u do, what does it say

[round dagger]

hey, I leveled

TradesmanBOB the Last

[heady wyvern]

As the description, under it (where "The Timeless" says "Saved by the Atlas")

[proper stone]

Yes, whats the prompt

[proper stone]

See

[heady wyvern]

Well hot shit that explains it

[proper stone]

I was right

[heady wyvern]

Huh

[proper stone]

(Wikiwas)

[round dagger]

technically ya both were

[heady wyvern]

Alright, my job here's done, I can go bed

[round dagger]

I was only a few hours away from save editing myself the title

[proper stone]

So i still stand by the point of saved by atlas means complete atlas path

[heady wyvern]

G'night, and good travels.

[proper stone]

Gn

[round dagger]

Imma check with polo on main save to get the location to a interface

[proper stone]

Have u completed atlas path on any of the saves?

[round dagger]

completed no, star seed quest on even my newest of saves yes

cause i have a Atlas bug

where all Atlas quest is the same cross save

mostly, havent checked my perma

[proper stone]

Huh

Dats weird

[round dagger]

#nms-questions message read all what i posted here

[proper stone]

I read that, not very informative tbh

[round dagger]

se? cross contaimination

[proper stone]

All i can say is

The quest comes back after completing it

Do u have remembrance blueprint?

[round dagger]

aye

and instaled

[proper stone]

It means u completed atlas path

[round dagger]

on my main

[proper stone]

Mystery solved

[round dagger]

then why does my separate survival also have Star Seed quest?

and not like "cry out"

or anything like that

or isthat be being confised agin with Artem

[proper stone]

What iis star seed quest exactly

[round dagger]

atlas..

[proper stone]

Bcoz u didnt completd it on that save?

[round dagger]

oh

[proper stone]

It cant be crosssave

Only titles are

(Maybe)

[round dagger]

titles are account held like exped rewards i know that fur sure

[proper stone]

Sohere we go

[round dagger]

ok so its just Artem path to do again?

[proper stone]

U have atlas path on nonmain saves bcoz u didnt do it yet
U have atlas path on main bcoz u completed it and it came back, most common bug in nms
To get another the Timeless u neec to refuse reset in Artemis path

[round dagger]

okie thank you

[proper stone]

Gl traveller

[round dagger]

so grateful to have a server and community to help me understand this confused shit

good night Traveller

Imma land then slep

[cyan mauve]

@fringe fiber out of curiosity... what did you do with artemis, and why? 😛

[fringe fiber]

i made him turn into a simulation

do my choices really affect anything?

i let apollo die

[cyan mauve]

and did you then tell the truth or lie?

[fringe fiber]

i told him the truth

[uncut harness]

There’s a choice coming up that does affect things

[cyan mauve]

@fringe fiber good decisions. thank you. 😄

[uncut harness]

given where you are in the story

[fringe fiber]

im sad that apollo died tho

im gonna take like 10 minutes trying to make my descision

[uncut harness]

feels bad i don’t even remember what happened to apollo

or null

the last i remember from null was them telling me their endeavors to prove the atlas wrong

only for the atlas to show how fruitless and meaningless they are

[dense void]

i got the impression it was Null's fault that the Atlas broke

[cyan mauve]

@uncut harness apollo wants to come to your place by portal, and you can either cooperate and give them the addr, or not, in which case they try anyways. they die either way, so the main choice is whether you "incited" them or not.

[uncut harness]

Died via portal entry?

Given that the story is meant to supplement feature introduction, that certainly is a way to dissuade portal use by the player

[fringe fiber]

@cyan mauve do i get the glyphs one system by one, or can i warp directly?

2 systems away

[cyan mauve]

@fringe fiber you get one glyph per warp, just go to the atlas stations. you need 10 of them to complete atlas path, and if you have, lets say, three left for the purge after that, you just do three more random warps.

[fringe fiber]

oh okay so i can warp dyrectly

hot

[cyan mauve]

yeah

once you get the blueprint for the "heart of the sun", you may have to collect materials to craft the whole chain of things too (bonus: craft two of each while you are at it!) ... and if you warped to the atlas interface after the heart of the sun without having crafted it ... you may want to place down a base computer in the system before getting materials.

(just to make really damn sure you can return to the system. this is supposed to be fixed, but one of the more annoying bugs in the past, and placing a BC costs two minutes and 30 chromatic, so, uh, old habits...)

[fringe fiber]

so uh

is this a bug?

is this where i place the heart of the sun>

cuz i cant press E or anything

[cyan mauve]

@fringe fiber you need to start with the pillars on the outside, on the left.

the one with the long glowy pillar of light above it. 😄

(and no, you are not the first one to wonder. common issue.)

[fringe fiber]

ohh okay

so i dont need the heart of the sun for this

[cyan mauve]

you need the heart of the sun, afaik.

(though i dont think i ever tried it without one...)

[fringe fiber]

yes i do

[cyan mauve]

just remember the (possibly superstitious) advice to place down a base computer in that system before you leave to get materials for crafting a HotS.

[fringe fiber]

i definetely will!! Theres an interesting looking planet i wanted to visit here anyway!!

[round dagger]

so, I was just with Null and now i gotta go talk to a Vykeen Cartographer, how much longer to LI?

AHHHHHH 3 more yes

[round dagger]

anyone know what that means>

[heady wyvern]

I don't know why that is, but there is a legitimate statement there

"I see the chains, now. I see home."

Dunno what the hell that means, either.

[uncut harness]

If it were a korvax saying it, you could derive some meaning

but it’s Apollo so

not sure

[grizzled apex]

When did this show up?

Don't remember that in the story... Maybe some sorta unused string?

Usually DIP_ might've meant some sorta formatting code, tho they arent usually written as such, but that doesn't look like it's the case here

[prisma meteor]

so

i'm doing one of the history missions in the artemis questline

and umm

to quote the game:

"Something is wrong with the Gek's voice"
option 1: ask about the first spawn
option 2: ask about the Korvax

awkwaaaard

[night quarry]

Mhm

[prisma meteor]

it's trying to dodge the question

i will keep pushing

[night quarry]

whatcha mean it's trying to dodge the question

[prisma meteor]

they say stuff like "past was the past, we're better now!"

they won't go into details

"The Gek seems disturbed by my questions, asking why I care. It is clear they do not wish to discuss the events of their species' past. Is it shame I see in their eyes, or something else?"

option 3: "Say the korvax care"

OUCH

this stuff is gold i tell ya

the gek just said "It never ended"

WHAT

"The Gek did not change, They invaded our souls"

WTF KIND OF CAN OF WORMS DID I OPEN

[heady wyvern]

:)

You opened this can, now you get to see what's at the bottom.

[uncut harness]

Slavery

[prisma meteor]

-The Gek's face begins to twitch as they speak, a sickly sweet pheromone emerging into the air

-I try to hold my breath, but it is too late

"The Gek did not change. They invaded our souls"

-I blink and I am on Balaron itself, homeworld of the Gek. I stand within the centre of the First Spawn empire, witnessing events that occurred long ago.

-Cartographer Snartim (the gek i'm talking to) stands next to me, watching what i watch, tears streaming down their face

-I see enslaved Korvax move from Gek spawning pool to spawning pool. At each one, they cut into their own suits. Nanite Clusters pool out, falling into the fluid of embryonic Gek.

-It is then that I finally understand. The fall of the Gek, their conversion to the Atlas, their release of the Korvax....

-It was not redemption. It was revolution. Hundreds of Korvax sacrificing their immortality, mingling their Nanite Clusters with the unborn Gek

-The Gek did not become good. They became Korvax, at least in part. Their slaves altered Gex brains, shifting their nature. For the first and final time, the Korvax Convergence delighted in the pain of the oppressor

[uncut harness]

Yeah

[prisma meteor]

this is messed up in so many levels

[uncut harness]

Ikr gek are awesome

[prisma meteor]

i really should've factory rested the atlas

[uncut harness]

Why

[prisma meteor]

like canon wise it deletes everything

so basically the ultimate unsee juice

[grizzled apex]

Honestly, it's pretty insane that the Korvax, one of the least aggressive species in the game, managed to end the most ferocious empire of all

And they did it through a silent revolution, and rebelled hard

[prisma meteor]

i feel the fact they succeeded shows their resolve

[uncut harness]

The universe has been reset multiple times in canon, and the three races always emerge no matter what.

[prisma meteor]

darn

[grizzled apex]

Nerds of the galaxy took down the big bad bullies lol

[prisma meteor]

literally lmao

#BrainOverBrawn

[heady wyvern]

They emerge, and their histories play out the same way, yes.

[grizzled apex]

Tbh, they just continue on after that, still being the chill scientists. These dudes are crazy dedicated

[heady wyvern]

Every damn time

[prisma meteor]

honestly IMO the gek deserves it

now THEY'RE the slaves

suckers

[heady wyvern]

Not necessarily. They were just unwillingly altered by the Korvax, but not subjugated.

[prisma meteor]

even better

[grizzled apex]

Well well well, how the turn tables

They're kinda cybernetic at this point then aren't they?

[prisma meteor]

yea

[grizzled apex]

Could you melt them down for Nanites then?

Or are they still just cute birb things to pet lol

[prisma meteor]

MONKAW

i mean when i talked to the korvax navigator he gave me a bunch of nanites

and they were alive

so i guess no

wait hold on

so now there are no longer immortal korvax?

[grizzled apex]

Oh naw, they're still immortal and have a "convergence" in which they just switch to a new body if one gets old. The sacrifice of their lives might refer to the fact that they "destroyed" a ton of host bodies, so they couldn't inhabit em anymore. It might also mean that they were "ubruptly" cut off from the hive mind and can't reconnect to transfer to a new body

[prisma meteor]

oh wow

that's brutal

[grizzled apex]

Because usually the transfer of a Korvax "soul" is like a long proper process, here they just disconnected

[grizzled apex]

Tru martyrs

[prisma meteor]

UHHHH

SO I'M VISITING THE ATLAS AGAIN

and my god i'm having a breakdown

scratch that

the atlas is having a breakdown

[grizzled apex]

Poor lil guy is alone and dying, not knowing why it was abandoned, not having anyone to talk to, give em a lil cry!

[prisma meteor]

i just started the purge

[arctic pecan]

For the glyphs thing pinned in this chat
On the stations with 2 travelers do i have to talk to one, get the location, get the glyph, then head back, talk to the 2nd and then get the next location?
Cause i've tried to get both at the same time and the 2nd traveler just says "nothing found"

[uncut harness]

Yes. Do it one at a time

[arctic pecan]

Ty

[arctic pecan]

Also regarding the glyphs, the last one has the portal fully trapped in a giant alloy box

So you do have to disable multiplayer for that one

Whoever did that, you are an idiot

[sterile smelt]

Planetary Collision
Boom Boom

[heady wyvern]

Incredibly late, but if that happens again, you can Report the base to get it out of your way. There should be a pin in #nms-questions explaining how that's done.

[arctic pecan]

I did, took the picture and all, but the box stayed

Even after going offline on the entire xbox, teleported away, then teleported back, the box was still there

[sand wren]

#no-mans-sky message hey @rancid sparrow how did priest nada react to that? do you remember what was the outcome of your choice?

[rancid sparrow]

er...it was a while ago at this point, but i think they made peace with it?

[odd root]

I wonder what the messages mean

[sand wren]

did u play through the story, mate?

[bitter onyx]

@cyan mauve i decided to upload her, i feel like she deserves the right to know what has happened and what her current state now, and how everything and everyone else is doing. the protagonist can tie lose ends with atermis, as well as everyone else. everyone cares for her, so it wouldn't hurt to see her one more time, right?

[sand wren]

and how did that go? how do u feel about it after u're done? how were the interactions with priest nada and polo?

[cyan mauve]

thanks. good decision from my pov. and (mildly spoilering), you will get a chance to do the "deserves the right to know what has happened and what her current state now" part.

[bitter onyx]

i feel, comforted, knowing that she'll be in good hands, and still be able to live on her dream exploring the galaxy, one way or another

[bitter onyx]

thanks! and can't wait

this game's story has no right to be this good

this lost space setting, it hits hard

[sand wren]

really good to see other people taking it in like this. thx for sharing, mate! can't wait to hear about your stories as well.

[cyan mauve]

@bitter onyx i like asking people about their "artemis" choices and reasons. mostly because i like messing with the "let them die because virtual existence is bad" brigade. still puzzled about the one case of "i uploaded them so they would suffer more"... 😄

[bitter onyx]

lol

@cyan mauve @sand wren no problem, and apollo comforting me was really nice, it gave me reassurance of my choice

[odd root]

@sand wren Yeah, the whole thing

[supple crater]

[sand wren]

so i ask you, my friend... do u still have the 4th wall up and holding paintings on the wall, or are u leaving boundaries behind to explore the tales beyond event horizons? is the first spawn as far back as you go, or you question time? i find some of the doors at some stations pretty interesting as well, if you catch my drift...

[eternal radish]

I got to that part too in my new gameplay yesterday. It still brings tears into my eyes…

[eternal radish]

What happened to this game??? It flopped. How did it ever become this good???

[arctic pecan]

How many interfaces are there in the atlas path, i've been warping for like 40 minutes

[ionic plover]

11? If I recall right

[arctic pecan]

zzzz

[static abyss]

The release was just a prerelease, the actual release was around the foundation/exocraft update, maybe NEXT if you really didn't like it