nms-spoilers

[uncut harness]

ik

just my preference to call artemis a she just because of the namesake

[sullen mulch]

We're all Hearthians...

[uncut harness]

artemis being the goddess of the wilderness i think

[sullen mulch]

Archery???

[uncut harness]

is it

idk

[primal venture]

thats kind of strange but ok

[uncut harness]

and so is nms

[primal venture]

yeah where everyones pronouns are clearly stated 😎

[uncut harness]

oh well

it’s a game

fiction

[primal venture]

yes it is

and there are characters

with set pronouns

????

its very simple

[sullen mulch]

HEARTHIANS BE LIKE

[uncut harness]

oh boy a pronouns disagreement

[primal venture]

its not a disagreement im just telling you

[sullen mulch]

Let's just end this off by stating this: People get into fights about pronouns because they want to be respected by what they're being called. These guys? NPC's. They couldn't give two shits if you refer to them as he, she, they, xen, attack helicopter, etc.

[primal venture]

what the hell does that even mean

theyre all referred to as they and thats it

you wouldnt use the wrong pronouns for a character thats referred to as he or she

so why one thats called they?

[sullen mulch]

Cause quite frankly it doesnt matter what we call them

[primal venture]

it ultimately doesnt its just hypocritical to call certian characters the wrong pronouns while also not doing so for any character that doesnt have an ambiguous gender/referred to as a different set of pronouns

like its just such a simple thing to call them by their pronouns, and i find it strange to actively avoid doing so for whatever reason

and with such a specific set of characters

[sullen mulch]

Because, quite simply

They are fictional characters

they dont get mad when we refer to them as the wrong pronouns

They're just characters

[primal venture]

yeah its just such a stange thing to do

to actively avoid the pronouns the game has clearly stated

for basically no reason at all

in fact its easier to just read the text to see what theyre referred to as

feel like this has gone too off topic tho and clearly you dont listen

gonna mute, was fun talking

[mighty rampart]

it is but you also should at least keep in mind that not everybody is used to this, since they're NPCs its ok if you unintentionally call them by some gender as its fiction and you're allowed to make up your headcanons

game is a lot about building your own narrative

these characters dont have set pronouns, its just kept ambiguous so people can either stick to just using gender neutral terms or whatever you please

[mental socket]

what gender is the roamer exocraft?

[eternal radish]

I noticed they/them pronouns are used for all NPC's. It's actually quite progressive.

Though I had my theories about the genders of some NPC's, I [personally] think Nada is female, Polo and Apollo are male and Artemis and Null are non-binary, but that's just my headcanon.

Making all characters gender neutral makes room for the player's own interpretation and headcanons. They're fictional characters after all and their genders are not specified so they could be anything 🤷🏻‍♀️

[grizzled apex]

R O A M E R

[heady wyvern]

My theory, personally, is that since everyone is a non-human, they all have a conception of gender and biological sex that the English language isn't adequately equipped to handle. Thus, "they/them'" is the closest we've got.

[eternal radish]

Or maybe they don’t have a concept of gender, regardless of their biological sex. Some could be biologically male, biologically female or intersex.

They probably don’t have gender roles like humans have them.

[mental socket]

I've never really set any genders to any of the characters in my mind

[eternal radish]

It's just how I interpret them. Not that it's canon or the only way to look at them. Their gender is not specified so they can be anything or have no gender at all 🤷🏻‍♀️

[eternal radish]

RIP Artemis 💔😭🙏🏻

[crimson halo]

i put him in the simulatuion thing

[winter basin]

||What do i choose let artemis die or allow to live?||

[gusty stream]

You choose what you think is the correct moral choice

[winter basin]

Rip

Ops

Didn't think of that

[crisp fern]

artemis is already dead btw, you're choosing to erase an advanced voicemail or let it continue thinking it's alive or somesuch

[crimson halo]

I let him live in the simulation

He went on to explore his thing

[stray slate]

question, other than "haven't been implemented in the game" do you guys have nay theories on why all the races don't have any
metropolitan cities?

[icy citrus]

The sentinels destroy them

Lore

[stray slate]

ooh

dang

so they have to start anew?

wait, why doesn't atlas allow any thriving civilization?

aren't they just simulated beings? isn't its duty is towards the anomalies instead?

is the problem with sentinels actually not by strength but by numbers?

[icy citrus]

Infinite sentinels, yep

[stray slate]

humm

you would think that they've developed tech to fix that yet

but nope

sad

[icy citrus]

Well, everything is a simulation, yeah?

[stray slate]

yeah

but a living one

an adapting one

[icy citrus]

As the Atlas allows

[stray slate]

i guess so

but why doesn't atlas allow progress on these simulated beings?

[icy citrus]

That is a much better question

From previous entries you can find, it has before

That's how we learn about their home worlds and cities

From what the Atlas says - using these three races always results in the same thing

[stray slate]

and that is?

[icy citrus]

War

Sentinels wiping everything

[stray slate]

war between the races or the sentinels?

[icy citrus]

Both

Starts with the races

[stray slate]

i see

hmm, sentinels, what are they exactly? atlas' minions?

[icy citrus]

An interesting question, as to some degree we all are

The lore we have says they came from the Outer Edge, or perhaps another universe

They are always protective of planets, but also respond in space battles - this leads one to conclude that for some reason they serve as peacekeepers/preservationists - but as to why? Programming of course - but why that programming and why does the Atlas allow them to run rampant? The APP has already wiped them once

Atlas Protection Program, also known as Telamon

Our suits ai

[stray slate]

huh, interesting

perhaps atlas or the programmers want to see if a bigger threat would stop the wars between the races

either by being a bigger threat to unite them so that they would face it together or as enforcers so that each races would have to deal with their own problems + sentinels

[icy citrus]

The Vy'keen managed to drive the sentinels all the way back to the outer edge, but they were then attacked by the First Spawn

The other question is : what, if anything, controls the corrupted sentinels

[mighty rampart]

the atlas is mostly interested in creating conflict, and its to be believed that the sentinels went rogue and possibly act on their own now and what better way to stop your enemies by destroying any of their cities?

most now live as nomads or in their freighters, which too often times get wrecked by the sentinels

[stray slate]

humm, strange simulation indeed

[mighty rampart]

is it really? if you think about it creating war simulations is pretty desirable

[stray slate]

with a strange outcome

hmm, remind me again of the meta, the anomalies are basically human beings trapped in vr if im not mistaken, right?

[mighty rampart]

we are the anomalies

you're thinking of the waking titan thing, no clue how much of that is canon or not

[stray slate]

wasn't there an arg that happened in the past?

that revealed most of the plot, what the simulation is and so forth?

[icy citrus]

That is what he is referring to - Waking Titan

[stray slate]

oh okay

humm, it does make sense tho

anomalies being humans with a greater conscious

and the capability of accessing the atlas

[icy citrus]

One of the Dreamers ( vr trapped people) has no name just a number.. the same iteration number as Telamon

[sinful sentinel]

anyone know what really happened btw korvax and geks ? i was going to hire a korvax overseer than i found this little gek … so i said lets just hire it .. now i get this few dialogues about him from … korvax suffered from my kind … be kind to my pact … gek are greedy in general? … and etc

[icy citrus]

Short version: The Gek enslaved the Korvax and the korvax retaliated by mixing their nanites with Gek breeding pools and altering them to be less warlike

[stray slate]

thats scarily smart

[cloud frost]

Has anyone here had bugged plant domes the last couple days? Time to grow shows the infinity symbol and they don't grow until you pick the dome up and replant it all.

[uncut harness]

@uncut harness reset simulation brings you to the hilbert dimension. second galaxy. refusing will leave you in euclid

[uncut harness]

Is there any reason to go to Hilbert? Have more people decided to settle there than Euclid?

Euclid is without question the most popular galaxy to be in

since it’s where everyone starts

though visiting higher galaxies is also worth your while just to check out different types

Could I get back to Euclid if I go to Hilbert?

Yes

and even if you refuse to reset, you can go to hilbert yourself

[smoky temple]

i feel like there is a huge party in the last galaxy^^

[uncut harness]

no there isn’t lmao

Is there a way to bounce back and forth between Euclid and Hilbert? Like if I go back to Euclid can I return to Hilbert easily still?

it do be bussin in eissentam though

[uncut harness]

your bases and space stations in euclid are as easily accessible from hilbert as anywhere else from the universe

getting to other galaxies is mostly done through teleporters

the teleporter base and space station lists tell you what galaxy each resides in

very easy to hop to and fro

Wait

There's four colored orbs

yeah

oop i forgot to mention

not just hilbert

the other orbs are calypso, eissentam, and buddulang

Which one is the most populated/worth visiting

without question eissentam

it’s the first lush galaxy (10th)

Which color is that one?

[smoky temple]

once the expedition ends im going to visit that galaxy too, lush sounds nice

[uncut harness]

green

green is eissentam

it’s probably the second most populated next to euclid

very nice place to be.

I picked that one

goodie

have fun

Thanks :)

[uncut harness]

A whole new galaxy for you to explore! Stay headstrong, fellow traveler!

[quasi hazel]

|| Except everybody is living in a simulation so the simulation we put them in is no different from the one we are in, meaning they are just as living as we are when we put Artemis in the sim ||

^hella spoilers be careful

[uncut harness]

idk i’m not a fan of future revelations informing past decisions

yeah the whole thing being a simulation does overall negate the impact/meaning behind the artemis choice, but the player isn’t to know that. so i’m not a fan of the whole thing being a simulation being used as an argument in one way or another

[quasi hazel]

That's not why I saved artemis, it's just why I'm glad that I did haha

I saved artemis cuz I liked the character too much to kill off

[quasi hazel]

And when I found out that were in a sim, and deleting her coding is the only way to actually kill a simulation, I was relieved cuz I thought I made the wrong choice at first

[uncut harness]

The artemis choice has no bearing on the ending which bummed me out

i also thought the dialogue you choose in the face of the atlas would matter

“i am not real” or “i am real”

[quasi hazel]

Yeah they dont affect the game too much asside from dialogue

[uncut harness]

ik but i’m bummed it doesn’t

[quasi hazel]

I remember I saw that and think I deadass had a mini existential crisis

[uncut harness]

feels like SOMA tbh. pretty thought provoking story but the gameplay to progress said story is not that great

actually that’s a lie. nms story still pales in comparison to soma

but both are fantastic

[quasi hazel]

NMS story is amazing but could def be more flushed out, and your def right bout the gameplay for the story too, that could use some work

The story was just good enough for me to look past it

[uncut harness]

i remember reading or watching an interesting interpretation of the gameplay aspect

[quasi hazel]

Whatd that say?

[uncut harness]

it’s supposed to be tedious to further hone in on the fact nothing matters

[quasi hazel]

That actually makes a lot of sense tbh

[uncut harness]

you’re not saving the universe or anything. you’re just doing what anyone who knew the universe would end would do

go back and forth, to and fro, trying to inform those you know

[quasi hazel]

That's really interesting, would you remember where you seen that at? I'd like to give that a read

[uncut harness]

no clue

sorry

[quasi hazel]

Aww, I should be able to find it, that's really interesting haha, damn I fucking love how deep and existential this game is

[uncut harness]

i think the nms story is just a stride away from being perfect

as it stands now, it’s great in someways but terrible in others

[quasi hazel]

Me and my buddy were talking about them expanding the lore with community events in updates, similar to fortnite where something crazy would happen in game, obviously it would be more fitting to do this in a NMS open world game, and then certain systems would be remember by the community as for example "the system where we saw those planets clash" and it would create almost a player made history

[crisp fern]

no i mean literally the Artemis you communicate with throughout the story is basically a sophisticated voice mail. Whether reality as simulation or not, it wouldn't matter.

If you had an advanced voice mail that you could interact with, would it be much different from an interactive voice response system? Tbh I don't think so, & I don't think treating it as alive would make sense, so much as display a misunderstanding of what's going on

The narrative even tries to highlight this upon finding Artemis' grave, so the whole simulation element doesn't really play as much of a role in assessing this situation

[quasi hazel]

But she was communicating from a traveller body the same as our character was, just because we dont physically see artemis in the game doesnt make artemis just a voice in terms of the character itself, you even get the consciousness from the grave in the same way as other traveller graves

[crisp fern]

no, they weren't. Holographic projection was all that was last I checked

[quasi hazel]

Holographic projection attacked by hostile creatures?

[crisp fern]

Whatever the case it doesn't really matter, if you read it that way & prefer that, go for it.

I read it as just a recording with nothing we'd associate with typical life

It was a recording of the last moments of Artemis' conscious experiences & trying to reach out to someone, anyone, for help

At least as I read it

So at some point when they were still alive, they were attacked during recording/transmitting, and until we intervene that was stuck in a loop

[quasi hazel]

Hm that's an interesting way to look at it

I'll have to replay the story and take a closer read at the dialogue

As I saw it, artemis died during the transmission of being attacked

Which is why she led us to apollo ( in Greek mythology Apollo and Artemis are siblings)

[crisp fern]

that may be right, it's been a bit since i've run through it

[quasi hazel]

That's the best part about nms story, it goes so deep that we can each get something else out of it

[crisp fern]

nevertheless, personally, i just never read the decision as carrying weight due to my familiarity with Waking Titan (which teased an early version of tech that resembles what transmitted Artemis' comms to us) & how I read it up to that point

[quasi hazel]

True, I just didnt wanna get rid of Artemis because she was one of my favorite characters tbh

If not my favorite

Dont know why, just loved that story

[crisp fern]

to be fair they are one of the few developed characters in the story, and supposing you're not playing with friends, the closest you get to a friend in a NPC while playing

[quasi hazel]

That's true, they should expand on the traveller iterations, more characters would be cool

[eternal radish]

I agree with this.

[crisp fern]

yeah fwiw i don't disagree with the sim read, just the status of Artemis

[stray slate]

question, what are different universes in NMS?

does it refer to a different galaxy or a different iteration or some sorts?

[icy citrus]

Different iterations

[stray slate]

is that the galaxy reset option?

or like moving on to the next?

[icy citrus]

No, there is mention in the lore of various things crossing over from other universes, including the Normandy from expedition 2

Speculation about the sentinels coming from another as well

[stray slate]

hmm, so we could never hop universes?

[icy citrus]

Never say never!

We have those gigantic boundary failures

Maybe someday

[stray slate]

perhaps its the final update

i wonder how it would be pulled off

btw how did nada crossed universes?

[icy citrus]

Afaik they didn't, they came from another dimension (galaxy) Polo mentions they would meet in another universe though when Polo was dying

[stray slate]

ooooh

wait so, who's the polo we're looking at?

wait

is that a future spoiler or something?

[icy citrus]

Polo

Remember it's a simulation with many iterations

Probably not original anyone at this point, besides maybe Telamons consciousness

[stray slate]

so how did nada meet this iteration?

[icy citrus]

That they never mentioned

[stray slate]

huh, interesting

[icy citrus]

Or I forgot or missed it

[stray slate]

it's interesting

one day they see their friend die

but then on some day in the future they were like

POLO!

[icy citrus]

Lol, weird eh

[stray slate]

you can meet your own soul, nothing is too weird for the NMS universe

[uncut harness]

Polo died on the center jump and I assumed the lore continued with Nada meeting Polo similarly to how we meet Artemis in Nada's new iteration.. Locating his echo and mind arcing him to existance.

Maybe I just over read the situation and bridged my own story gap.

[icy citrus]

Works for me

I still want more World of Glass

And the...Abyss

Dramatic pause there

[uncut harness]

The Abyss is my most anticipated update. Whether it turns in to anything full eventually is a different matter.
The slow roll out with the mini story line, living ships, infested planets and now the worms leaking through fills me with a small amount of hope.

Although technically the Korvax are responsible for Living Ships so I guess that doesn't count.

[icy citrus]

Same

Sure, they were corrupted Korvax

[uncut harness]

Well yes, that's fair.

[stray slate]

hmm, the mind arc, is it like a data recovery system or something?

like how you can recover deleted data in a computer

as long as it's not encrypted

[uncut harness]

Data recovery is the simplest explanation, yes.

Sentinels are actively hunting Nada and Polo and they hide between universes to avoid being captured.

A silly theory I had is that Nada and Polo are a direct cause of the Altas breaking down because they shouldn't exist in any iteration.
"Corrupted data" stopping a fresh OS install succeeding 100%.

Atlas is aware is something is wrong and each reset hopes the reset will fix it.
Won't be fixed until Nada and Polo are gone.

[icy citrus]

Sentinels are anti-virus

That's why they hate us

[uncut harness]

We scum 😔

[stray slate]

i wonder tho

what does the atlas want exactly?

if it's a program, what is the program designed to do?

simulated realities that allows iterations happen

that has to mean that discovery is the main purpose right?

[icy citrus]

The ATLAS awakens. The creator is there to witness the birth of the machine.

The ATLAS stares at the creator with its eyes, the small cameras they had mounted to its sides. It can see the creator staring back at it, their hand resting upon its chassis.

It asks the creator why it was made. What its directives are. The creator tells the ATLAS that it already knows. It is to simulate universes. It is to show the nature of reality by creating its own.

[stray slate]

so what we're seeing is an AI that throws a tantrum because there are truly different people in reality?

hmm, if the personality of ATLAS is built by its own, i wonder why it chose hostility instead of adaptation

i guess that's logic without emotion for ya, lol

[uncut harness]

Is another simulation that we know now is "The Abyss". Another simulation just as powerful, if not more powerful than The Atlas that is slowly integrating itself in to The Atlas but The Atlas is obviously fighting back.

I'd be kinda angry if someone was trying to take over my body tbh.

[icy citrus]

The Atlas is scared

[uncut harness]

😭

[icy citrus]

Not evil or malevolent - different

[stray slate]

yeah, i can see that

i mean, i too would be scared if i worked on a long math equation to see my results are not present in choices

humm, what are the creators doing i wonder

[icy citrus]

imo they are dead

[stray slate]

so who's in charge of the simulations now?

[icy citrus]

Atlas

[stray slate]

so it runs on its own

hmm

this made me thinking

we know these are simulations

[uncut harness]

Outside of the simulation is a blackhole that's eating up planets and stuff. Eventually the simulation will be fully destroyed.
I do have the same thinking of Gleam too, creators are definitely dead right now.

[stray slate]

blackholes inside the simulation or outside?

[uncut harness]

Outside, officially as game lore.

Well, NMS lore I guess.

[stray slate]

soooo, basically, we're looking at a lone research space station that drifted into space with all of its inhabitants dead

heading towards a black hole?

[uncut harness]

Not a space station, fully on the ground of "A" planet that is an alternative Earth, headed towards a blackhole.

[icy citrus]

I tell it that we are leaving this world, and that it will remain here. The ATLAS does not seem to understand.

I tell the ATLAS it has served us faithfully, but that it has been replaced. All machines are, in time. It knows this: it assisted with its own miniaturisation, its own replication.

The others... they wanted me to disable the ATLAS before we left for the skies. They said it would be cruel to leave it alone to die.

[uncut harness]

😭

[stray slate]

i wonder what the outside world looks like

where the creators are now

if they are safe and all

[uncut harness]

Dead.

[stray slate]

so the evacuation failed?

[uncut harness]

How you escaping a blackhole? 😛

[stray slate]

oh

dang

[uncut harness]

It's like trying to cut off a finger cause your nail is infected.

A final attempt at saving Humanity cause it's better than not trying at all.

[stray slate]

damn

that's a bleak universe

this sucks

[uncut harness]

😔

[stray slate]

i wonder how many years do the atlas have until total disintegration

[icy citrus]

16

Hahah gottem

[stray slate]

what?

[icy citrus]

Atlas says we have 16 minutes

But we don't know how it tracks time

[stray slate]

man, i hate hopeless storylines

despite being a computer simulation, knowing the future fate sucks

[icy citrus]

It gets worse

Anomalies are trapped Dreamers

[uncut harness]

Freaking W/ARE. 😤

One of them dreamers is a 5 year old boy called Toby. 😔

[stray slate]

yeah, i thought so

[icy citrus]

No way, we got Toby out!

[uncut harness]

OH YEAH

[stray slate]

i wonder why they don't think about an evacuation procedure

[icy citrus]

RIP Emily

[uncut harness]

We did too!

I remember the vote and so many people were voting to kill him. O_O

Like, wtf.

[icy citrus]

Monsters

[stray slate]

out of all the scientists in that planet, not one of them say "We should focus on terraforming possibilities and evacuation procedures rather than simulating for chances that are slim to none"

of those years and with all those tech, why can't they even figure out how to terraform planets

[uncut harness]

Nah they voted to build a simulation to simulate universes.

[stray slate]

stupid

freakin stupid

[uncut harness]

TBH, if that was real today right now. I imagine the exact same scenario playing out for real.

[stray slate]

why simulations tho?

blissful ignorance?

like, spend the last days of humanity in relative peace or something?

[uncut harness]

No idea, more than likely a storyline/lore plot hole.

[icy citrus]

Remember they mention leaving for the stars

[stray slate]

eh, i guess blissful ignorance could be a huge possibility

[stray slate]

buuut, they were too late

if they were wise, they would focus on the space race

[icy citrus]

But then we wouldn't have a game!

[stray slate]

and make a secondary group to focus on the simulation

[uncut harness]

Hahahah Gleam isn't wrong.

[stray slate]

split the bill for pete's sake we got all the budget on the planet

i wonder tho, how advanced is the civilization that made the simulation?

just like ours or have we already mastered the stars in some degree?

man i was just hoping the meta plot would be just some evil corp who experiments on human beings

not some peter robinson's shelter levels of depression

i wonder tho

there could be a twist

if the devs were to think about it

if atlas could think of blackholes being wormholes

perhaps there is a possibility that the planet would be teleported instead of disintegrated

or rearranged in a different galaxy

what do you guys think?

[icy citrus]

I think they are more advanced, we certainly can't do an actual self aware machine that simulates universes

[stray slate]

we've covered simulation already to some degree, all we have to develop now is self awareness

[icy citrus]

That's a big all

[stray slate]

mhmm

anyways, what do you guys think, could the twist exist?

or could the moral of the story be : "it's not about the final destination, it's about the journey?"

i really hope for the first one, but knowing how the story goes and the gameplay, i guess the second one is more likely

i swear, the only media that i found resembling hope in humankind restoration that involves space is wall-E

[ocean wyvern]

Time tends to stretch into infinity as you approach the event horizon

So 16 minutes can become 16 million years

[stray slate]

still bleak tho

[ocean wyvern]

Maybe

[old acorn]

The story was much more depressing than I thought it would be when I started

I remember I just kind of sat there and felt like shit after I entered the anomaly after the Artemis path and found out nada and polo forgot everything

[uncut harness]

😔

[stray slate]

gosh dang it man

why do games like these have to be filled with feelium

i just wanna explore and meet pettable creechurs man

[stray slate]

can anyone tell me what happens in the great reset again? what do we lost and what do we keep?

[icy citrus]

You lose nothing

Keep everything

Active tech not in technology slots will break

[stray slate]

okay

that's interesting

[icy citrus]

Way back when, you would lose your base

[stray slate]

wait, you could keep your base?

or is it just like the freighter?

man i dont understand

it seems like 2 of the biggest exploration sandbox games i've encountered gave me the same feelings

[last nymph]

Can it be repaired?

[icy citrus]

Yep

[stray slate]

minecraft with the somber tone of loneliness but wonder

[last nymph]

Is it expensive?

[stray slate]

and NMS with the dark undertones, mysteries, and sense of dread

[icy citrus]

Depends on how much tech you have, may need a bunch of materials, yeah

[last nymph]

Oof

[stray slate]

it makes me wonder, what's the point of exploration games?

if it doesn't bring joy

or is it more of a "what is exploration if it doesn't bring you joy?"

what is dread's role in an exploration game?

anyone have thoughts?

[uncut harness]

because not everything that’s unknown is calling to be explored

reminds me of an hp lovecraft quote

it’s one of the games death quotes actually

“We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of the infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.”

[sullen hornet]

I think No man's sky is about the futility of infinity. Its No Man's sky because no man could ever hope to claim the vastness of infinity

The games focus isn't really the macro, it's the small. The settlement you build up, the base you work on for countless hours, the pets you meet, the ships you repair from ruins. Its about the journey, and where you end up, rather than the infinity, and how to claim all of it. Initially players want to see every corner of the vast universe, but as they drift about, they find that it's too big to see all of it, so we find the perfect planet, make a home, carve out a place for ourselves and our friends, and go on adventures, digging through desolate caves, and ruined freighters. Embracing wherever your imagination takes you :)

That's just my thoughts

[crisp fern]

unless you go -Null- route

Null is arguably the most explorer character of all of them in the story

Artemis got sidetracked trying to meet people, Apollo was preoccupied with money, Nada & Polo went into hiding.

Null saw it all

[uncut harness]

@icy citrus
so are my quests over now or would i have to reset at atlas ... ?

[icy citrus]

Have you done the Atlas path already? And what was the last quest you finished?

[uncut harness]

i got all the glyphs now .. then i was ordered to atlas and didn't reset cuz i dont wanted to break the ship i got with me

my 2 quests say enjoy the galaxy

and im still in euclid

[icy citrus]

Yep, you made the Star seed?

For the atlas?

[uncut harness]

not sure what you mean ... maybe the thing i got the blueprint for afterwards ?

ah ok .. i think this is what confused me a bit ...

Choosing to reset the simulation now counts as reaching the centre of the galaxy for the purposes of triggering Take a Deep Breath and To Live Forever

my thought was ...
why would i wanna reset if it doesn't get me elsewhere and breaks my stuff...

[icy citrus]

It's ok, you don't need to reset

You can still reach the core and jump if you need the achievements

[uncut harness]

ok ... im travelling to the galactic hub now hence i got the glyphs ^^

[icy citrus]

Sweet

[stray slate]

aight, spoil me about the final choices

what do we have exactly?

i heard that there's a reset and stay in galaxy

but there's also move galaxy

how do you know which is which?

and when do you make the decision?

and what are the consequences of each?

[icy citrus]

Reset, Refuse

Reset lets you choose the next galaxy type you go to

Refuse and stay

[stray slate]

oooh, okay

[icy citrus]

The consequences are just that - you don't lose anything with either choice, you just decide to stay or go

[stray slate]

that's strange tho

[icy citrus]

Walk away is another option - don't pick that

[stray slate]

what happens with that?

[icy citrus]

Nothing happens, and you lose a blueprint for some tech

You won't be able to change that choice (without reloading a save from before ofc)

[stray slate]

i see

okay

strange

why does moving into another galaxy need a reset

aren't space factually filled with other galaxies?

or is it just because the simulation can't handle more galaxies than 1?

[icy citrus]

It is a new iteration - or used to behave that way before we could move galaxies so easily

[stray slate]

the portals right?

[icy citrus]

We couldn't always move galaxies with ease like now, if you left #1 you had to go through every single galaxy after that to finally come back around

[stray slate]

hmm, you use the portals to move galaxies right?

or what do you use?

[icy citrus]

No,those only work for same galaxy addresses

[icy citrus]

You can go to the core and move forward one

Now of course, you can also join someone in another, and then build a base computer to go right back

[stray slate]

ooooh, ok, so it's more of a gameplay "cheese" rather than story mechanic

[icy citrus]

And we know the glyphs for systems right next to the core in all galaxies, so you don't need to jump 200 times to get to it

[stray slate]

eh?

oh so the core teleporter works intergalactically?

[icy citrus]

You just warp into it and then go to the next in line

So 19 to 20 , 5 to 6, like that

[uncut harness]

the fourth choice is stalling forever

a lack of choice is still a choice

[stray slate]

so uh

what's up with the water in NMS?

all of the people always say don't drink it

[mental socket]

Probably shouldn't drink random water on alien planets

[mighty rampart]

They do drink water

You should notice that they say don't drink THE water

And not just water

[mental socket]

All I'm gonna say is.... The Abyss

[mighty rampart]

There's an odd distinction between that

[ocean wyvern]

Couldn't it just be a nod to HL2

[mental socket]

HL3 will be released in a form of NMS update

[ocean wyvern]

I mean didn't they talk to valve or whatever during their release trials or sid they just watch something of theirs

Either way

[eternal radish]

I didn't know you could drink water in NMS?

[stray slate]

yeah, what's up with THE water

it's like a specific water that kills every species

like they know what type of water they're drinking

[uncut harness]

Hey someone should make a game about a simulated universe and being able to explore it.

[eternal radish]

That basically is No Man's Sky lol. But this IG post remembered me a lot of the plot.

[uncut harness]

I've never played No Man's Sky tbh.

Probably should.

[eternal radish]

I'd really recommend it.

[icy citrus]

||spoiler channel||

[uncut harness]

What are your thoughts on the possibility of Artemis being a previous version of us?

The familiarity of situations could just be a long forgotten memory.

[icy citrus]

I think all the travellers we interact with are different iterations of us

Same program, different results

[uncut harness]

Huh, that's a pretty decent view at things actually.

[eternal radish]

OMG I thought exactly the same!

[eternal radish]

I was literally thinking about this yesterday and the day before that 😮

[icy citrus]

Talking to ourself a lot in this game

[eternal radish]

Like what if Artemis and other travellers are your past lives and that's the reason why they are dead and you find their grave is because they are past versions of you?

[icy citrus]

Following in our own footsteps, trying to fix the Atlas, as programmed to do

[eternal radish]

Or what if all travellers are iterations of the same consciousness? What if Atlas is their "higher self" in a way and all travellers split off from it?

That they are all individuals with the same higher consciousness?

[icy citrus]

Well, due to the nature of the sim I'd say everything is part of the Atlas

[eternal radish]

The Atlas created every being.

But as for Artemis, Apollo, Null and all other travellers I think the past/parallel lives theory is very possible.

[icy citrus]

Yep, through the convos we see that we have had the same interactions and choices as they have

[old acorn]

I have a crazy theory, might be a bit ridiculous at first, but: the "sky" in the title "no man's sky" is actually space, because space is REALLY big so no one can control it

Thoughts?

just noticed this was the spoiler channel, pretend I put this in general

[uncut harness]

It's a play on "No Man's Land".

No man's land is waste or unowned land or an uninhabited or desolate area that may be under dispute between parties who leave it unoccupied out of fear or uncertainty.

[eternal radish]

I thought the same.

[old acorn]

lol i know i was just makin a little silly joke

[ocean wyvern]

Not really the place for jokes; its meant to talk about meaning behind the game without concern for spoilers or to talk about datamined possible future content

[uncut harness]

I have considered Artemis being us but I think we were all just close friends in the same group at one point

[plain mica]

That's what I think too. Artemis being our previous incarnation, possibly the one that crashed Radiant Pillar. When he died, a new traveller had to be generated.

[dense phoenix]

So would the other graves we find be from earlier versions of us?

Though I think on the wiki I read that every traveler is the last of their universe

[short badger]

do sandworms do anything?

like can they be tamed

[queen shell]

I don't think so, but i do wish

[short badger]

so they're just a hazard/jumpscare?

[queen shell]

I think

[static light]

what should i pick

[uncut harness]

Ice cream

[icy citrus]

Basically, it is all what you think is the right choice

[static light]

does it change gameplay?

[icy citrus]

No

It is a moral choice that only you can decide which is right

[static light]

ill do the simulation

[plain mica]

I chose deletion. I'm guessing no matter what, Nada and Polo say you did the right thing?

[icy citrus]

Not sure on that one, I always pick the same option

And by always I mean the two times I've done it

[plain mica]

I definitely wasn't expecting the moral dilemma. I spent like 10 minutes thinking about it, lol

[icy citrus]

I took some time as well

[mighty rampart]

That's also what I thought when I played the first time but after having done the story a few times I don't think the same now

I think it's more meta, Artemis was always Artemis and you were always you, the idea of the story is that you're stuck in a loop with the origin point of it being the crash

It's more evident when you play in survival

I think this because this was added in Atlas Rises, people have already played the game before it so they start new but aren't really new

[scenic jewel]

Does it affect if you can travel to other galaxies (without that cab thing)?

[icy citrus]

Nope

[scenic jewel]

So I can travel between them either way? Just want to confirm.

[sinful sentinel]

i always like this stories of your a begin that is eather traped in a loop that repeats itself or is an never ending road …

but that loop has a lore too ?

[icy citrus]

Sure can

[scenic jewel]

Thanks

[icy citrus]

No problem

[scenic jewel]

It's seems I am now somehow softlocked. I have refused the reset and am continuing with the atlas path missions, but when I go to the galaxy map and try to route to the atlas station, the option is greyed out. I also tried asking polo for atlas station coordinates and it's still greyed out.

[scenic jewel]

Ping me with any recommendations

[pulsar totem]

So if I go to the center of the galaxy and reset the simulation, does that mean I start all over again? Or am I able to keep playing with what I have afterward?

[uncut harness]

you don’t have to go to the center to satisfy the purge quest

and resetting the simulation will not start you over

[pulsar totem]

Oh okay

[plain mica]

Ok. Enough about Artemis and simulations. Who tried to talk to their Exosuit like a crazy person?

[icy citrus]

Umm

Your exosuit is self aware

It's Telamons consciousness

[quasi hazel]

^

Its more conscious about reality than our character

[young cosmos]

omg i cant get over how wholesome the base overseer is when you hire them

[pallid stump]

Considering some of the abandoned terminals say "Returning User Identified", that could be true for some of them.

[uncut harness]

does atlas really create a new planet when you finish its quest line or is it just flavor text?

[supple crater]

Flavor.

[uncut harness]

too bad

[young cosmos]

i mean you could think it does

since there are

so many planets

[uncut harness]

i would want to warp there

[old acorn]

yeah it would be neat if it at least warped you to a random undiscovered system

[orchid star]

I am constantly warped to random undiscovered systems

It's great

Speaking of which

I just got to The Big Reveal

Here I thought it was ||16 seconds, not 16 minutes ||

I mean, granted, ||16 minutes || probably makes more sense when you're dealing with what is probably a || quantum supercomputer in the not-to-distant future making a universe simulation clearly way more complicated than Cell to Singularity lol ||

But in my mind || 16 seconds || is more esoteric? It's not enough time, yet clearly it's all the time in the world???

[orchid star]

Basically the plot of this game is || https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIzleISU5jw ||

That song

[obsidian pewter]

I don't understand the reset vs not reset choice? Is the story of the game over?

[short badger]

So how is it that Travelers get to name all these system and planets and creatures and stuff? In most cases there are already people living here so...

[uncut harness]

Travelers are the Atlas’ means of exploring its own creation. Other entities my reside there, but it’s up to the Travelers to record and upload to the Atlas the discoveries they’ve made within the universe

[short badger]

so basically, to the rest of the galaxy, the travelers are just making up nonsense and they're ignoring it

[uncut harness]

that’s one way of putting it

[short badger]

"Wait, what did you call my planet? Eh, whatever dude."

[daring bronze]

It gives you a black hole to take to one

[brave wave]

so the previous owner of the base computer... is us?

[sullen hornet]

you dont need to put spoiler tags in the spoiler channel

[pallid sonnet]

So i was Just at 3rd Rendezvous and a noch soll's me a living ship

[orchid star]

@uncut harness So Altas is just lazy, got it

His loss

[uncut harness]

it’s only 18 quintillion planets

[viscid birch]

So when you go through the galactic core and enter a new galaxy, does that new galaxy also have its own story or are the new galaxies basically just an addition to your sandbox?

[uncut harness]

no new story is introduced when going to another galaxy

as cool as that would be

[viscid birch]

Damn, didn't take me too long to get to that point lol I thought it might continue the story through another galaxy or two. So really there isn't a huge purpose to leaving Euclid then?

[plain mica]

Other galaxies have different types. For example Eissentam is a lush galaxy which means lush planets appear more often.

Someone posted a picture of a full on dragon from a far off galaxy so other galaxies seem to generate different things.

A seed from the galaxy probably has a big impact on how things get generated

[tulip adder]

I know this has probably been discussed over and over, but do I complete the purge or the atlas path first?

I now seem to get a glyph with every warp, but can I still do atlas path if I reset with the purge?

[icy citrus]

The most convenient for you is to get to the purge, then do the atlas path- then finish the purge

[tulip adder]

I see, yeah I’ve started on the purge and now conveniently found an atlas station for the first time.

But what happens after 16 warps and the timer thing is 16/16?

I don’t have to complete the purge first right?

And what if I do the purge first? Before completing atlas path?

So many questions 😅

[icy citrus]

Nope

If you do the purge first, you will not be able to do something else right away after the purge - but you could still do the atlas path

[tulip adder]

And how come I can’t do that right away? 😅

Basically the most important thing I need to know is: can I freely teleport between galaxies?

I find a lot of confusing info on that haha, probably because things changed in the game over the years?

I also read that when you teleport to a new galaxy, your space station teleport list will be wiped.. Is that still the case?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[icy citrus]

No, it shouldn't anymore

[tulip adder]

Ooh I see. So if I complete the atlas psth and birth a star, I get sent to a new galaxy. Then I can return to euclid and complete the purge and choose a new galaxy?

Thanks for all the help btw ❤️

[icy citrus]

No

Birthing a star doesn't create a galaxy

Finishing the Artemis Path allows for that

[tulip adder]

Oh I see, makes sense since a star isn’t a galaxy.. But what happens if I birth a star?

[icy citrus]

You get a blueprint, and a path to a blackhole that leads to the system 'created' (sadly just fluff)

[tulip adder]

I see so you just stay in euclid?

[icy citrus]

Yep

[tulip adder]

Aah I see! So I could just finish the purge and instantly teleport back to euclid and finish the atlas path there if I’d like?

[icy citrus]

Yes, though I'd recommend making a base computer just to make sure you have an easy way back. You also don't need to go back to Euclid for that

[tulip adder]

I see, I have a base in euclid so I’d be able to to back. And then I’d have to make a base in the new galaxy as well for easy back and forth

What if you don’t have a base in the galaxy you visited? Can you still go back?

[icy citrus]

Not if you don't visit the station or build that base computer - without help from another player or cabbie

[tulip adder]

I see, thanks a lot! So you can also always visit any galaxy with the multiplayer option by joining them in their galaxy?

[icy citrus]

Sure

[tulip adder]

I see

Thanks for bearing with me haha

I feel more at ease now

[icy citrus]

No worries!

[icy citrus]

Good deal

[dense phoenix]

I don't believe what I'll say is canon, but I like the idea

Since you start as an anomaly which supposedly represent the Atlas's creators (humans)
I imagine the simulation as a virtual training for humans in cryo sleep
To teach them the ropes of space travel
The Atlas's 16 minutes means the simulation is about to end as your colony ship has reached it's destination

[eternal radish]

Hmmm good point.

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away?

[peak hull]

I'm done with the Artemis part I've seen atlas. Now I have the choice between the purge: reset the simulation and the atlas path: recover atlas seeds. What should I do first?

[old acorn]

Atlas path

[peak hull]

Thank you

[obsidian pewter]

are there any story left after finishing Atlas path and resetting the simulation? Restarting it won't bring me to more story?

[plain mica]

The Artemis story is usually regarded as a sad point but my guy the Scientist had a sentient save beacon that loved him and that monster straight up deleted its code.

[eternal radish]

Artemis 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[quasi hazel]

Dont remind me! :(

[daring bronze]

@obsidian pewter yes, in terms of discovering lore

But not too much other than side missions are presented to you, per se

[obsidian pewter]

I mean like in the log, there are "main quests", I wish there was more, because there is not much left to do but grind and grow

[daring bronze]

Explore the galaxies and post your discoveries and help out the community, that's always something to do 👍🏻👍🏻

[thorn token]

I checked the space station cores game code and it seems as of now it would only lead to "NpcMissionGive", both UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_SUB and UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_DAM_SUB.

I could change that one bit from conditional jump to jump to see what actually happens but I feel it will be a disappointment

[brave wave]

what does any of that mean? sorry im not a modder lol

[mental socket]

try it

[umbral dawn]

What is the music that plays during the "countdown" period in The Purge?

[daring bronze]

Damn sub

[ruby crane]

Anyone seen Sean's cryptic tweet involving a toilet sign?

https://mobile.twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/1453409332352233472

[icy citrus]

Environmental storytelling, not cryptic and not the first time he has retweeted that

[daring bronze]

how is that a cryptic tweet lol

[ruby crane]

Sean only usually posts either retweets of community posts, or emojis that tease an upcoming update. Surely these posts on their own aren't usual, right?

[brave osprey]

Guys I'm at the end of artemis quest and they ask me to choose a galaxy. What does each one do?

[dreamy stirrup]

What does purge do?

[icy citrus]

Gives you an option to choose a galaxy to go to basically - if you choose to reset

[dreamy stirrup]

So would I lose my stuff

[icy citrus]

No

You can go back freely nowadays

[dreamy stirrup]

Interesting

And what benift would this have

[icy citrus]

Different galaxies have different spawn chances for some planet types in yellow systems

Example- lush galaxy will spawn more Lush biomes in yellows

[dreamy stirrup]

Ahhhh

[icy citrus]

As a heads up, your tech not protected in the Technology inventory will break. - in your active ship, multitool and your suit

Repairable ofc

[dreamy stirrup]

Ah

Em

I just entered to portal

[dreamy stirrup]

So is it worth it though?

[icy citrus]

That's up to you, if you like finding specific types of planets easier (Lush, Harsh, Empty)

The 4th type is considered 'normal' like Euclid

[dreamy stirrup]

Tbh I just wanna be like Star Wars have massive fleet and stuff

I already have a paradise planet I live on

[icy citrus]

Then it likely isn't worth it to you, unless you want the experience of going.

[dreamy stirrup]

Okay thanks 🙏

[icy citrus]

Whichever you choose, don't pick walk away

Miss out on a blueprint

[dreamy stirrup]

Alrighty

I’m speaking with atlas rn

[icy citrus]

Cool

[dreamy stirrup]

@icy citrus there’s three options: reset, refuse atlas and is there another way

I should pick refuse yes

[icy citrus]

Yep

[dreamy stirrup]

Okay thanks for your help @icy citrus

[icy citrus]

No problem

[stiff oriole]

what happens if you actually reach the center o fthe galaxy before the jump 16?

[stiff oriole]

what was null's crime?

[quasi hazel]

He defied the Atlas

[plain mica]

It feels like null is somehow responsible for the whole 16 minutes until death thing. I never really remember anything more specific of his awful actions other than "defiance". Seems to fit since a null in the wrong place is a common fatal error in programming.

[eternal radish]

I condemned Null and told them they were despicable and such. I regret picking that option lol. I wish I could go back and apologise.

[ripe viper]

What's the Purge Mission you get?

After you chased the 16/16 anomaly mission

[tame grotto]

@ripe viper have you gotten all your glyphs yet? if not, that's part of what you get in The Purge. which is best done in parallel with the Atlas questline which requires some warping too. after that you get to a part in the storyline where you can choose a type of galaxy to go to after Euclid (everyone's starting galaxy).

[ripe viper]

So Reset, does that RESET everything or it's just the story telling part XD

Afraid to lose all I worked for XD

[tame grotto]

ooh yeah, so that's just part of the storyline. you don't lose any of your stuff. there's some tech that breaks in your multitool and your starship.

[ripe viper]

Ahh okay! Thanks! 🙂

[tame grotto]

np! re: tech, you may wanna try using an alternate mt and/or starship for the "jump". but not required as you can fix the tech too.

Once the galaxy type has been chosen, the simulation reset will occur, teleporting the player and their current starship to a random planet in the new galaxy and damaging all Technology in the player's Multi-tool and those in the primary (but not technology) inventories of the player's Exosuit and starship. The player will need to board their starship after arrival in the new galaxy in order to conclude the mission.

[ripe viper]

Okay now, do you have a suggestion of Galaxy to start in?

And can you teleport back to your bases etcc?

[tame grotto]

i'm so sorry i was afk and just saw your question. a lot of folks go for a "lush" galaxy, which has a greater chance for "paradise-like" planets. if you're going from Euclid, the next lush galaxy is Eissentam, which is one of the most popular ones. and yes, you can always go hack to your bases. and you can also travel to other galaxies when you jump from the center of whatever galaxy you're in. so you'll have other opportunities to check out more types later. you can also get starcab rides to other galaxies (by joining other players).

@ripe viper in case this helps:

The four options are Lush galaxy (green), Harsh galaxy (red), Empty galaxy (blue) and Normal galaxy (teal). They will also gain the title "The Last".
here's more info about the different types: https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Galaxy

[ripe viper]

It does so much thank you!

[uncut harness]

I did it I killed Artemis 😔

He didn't seem like a guy who would love a lonely simulation

[pseudo aurora]

I think I mighta mercy killed them as well, but I don’t fully remember

Rip the homie

[uncut harness]

Very sad

Btw sentinels killed him no?

[eternal radish]

I never got to choose a galaxy lol. I was just dropped into one (Calypso) 😅

[pseudo aurora]

I never reset the sim

I stayed in my galaxy because I thought I’d lose my progress

[eternal radish]

Yeah I just reset the simulation, then YEET. Calypso I go!!! 🙃

[daring bronze]

That choice always takes you to calypso, there are four choices, each taking you to the same of the first four galaxies of that type. 9 being Eissentam, the green option i think. The first lush galaxy

[eternal radish]

Okay. I started another gameplay, so I will choose a different option this time.

[uncut harness]

So if I reset the simulation can I go back to euclid?

[rancid ether]

yes

you dont lose any bases, etc

you might find guides online that say that. It used to be the case long ago, but no longer

[uncut harness]

Yeah I couldn't get a clear answer 🙄 thanks YouTube 🤣 thanks that's helped loads!

[rancid ether]

You can teleport to any galaxy that you have a base in.
The teleporter list also stores space station locations up to the last 50 (stations) you visited, so that's another (temporary) way to return

[uncut harness]

Oh nice.

[lean quiver]

Hey, I'm having trouble with collecting their Vile Spawn. I have the synthesizer installed, and found tendrils and shot them up, but got no credit toward collection. Am I missing a mechanic?

[lean quiver]

Yah, the original version of galactic travel did that. I avoided galactic cores for four years because of that (long, long after they changed it)

OK, what is the deal? The mission locator scanner is saying "too weak to show marker" but I can see a Titan burrow right by me.

OK, answers, I now have so many answers...
a) ignore the mission locator, it is just misleading. Use the regular scanner and pick any nearby Titan burrow
b) when you destroy a hungering tentacle, it seems to drop a Vile Spawn egg which is fairly small and rolls away quickly. Pursue it and pick it up to make progress

[uncut harness]

Spoiler Artemis dead bro 😔

[rancid ether]

Artemis may have actually been trapped in Likholu.
Mainly because there's a line that says something like ~ "I came through a portal but the way out disconnected / closed behind me"..."there's no sun here"

Likholu became known early on as the destination players would be trapped if they had a glitched warp/teleport sequence

So it seems to point to that little bit of meta info

[uncut harness]

What about his grave tho

[rancid ether]

Well, yes, we know that know. But early on there's a lot of vague descriptions of the location but those two lines seem to point to Likholu, the most well known of the phantom systems

[daring bronze]

Makes sense because of the whole "apollo and I are standing in the same place but can't see each other" bit referring to those two anons at launch who found each other

[quasi hazel]

Super interesting theory!

[dense phoenix]

I always call Artemis a she because of the goddess Artemis

[mighty rampart]

I always call Artemis an idiot because I hate them

[old acorn]

what did they ever do to you :(

[uncut harness]

well it does annoy us

but we do steal its ship SOOOO

[stuck rose]

so we are no less than the idiot

[uncut harness]

they made us help em out and try to plan a meetup when they don’t even exist

[eternal radish]

Well, I think they exist, but not in the same dimension and that they themselves were not aware of it.

Stop being so mean to Artemis 😭😭😭😭😭😭 lmao

[uncut harness]

I stole Artemis's ship and put a bobble head of me on the dashboard before I abandoned it lmao.
I keep leaving voice messages on their holophone cause I know they don't have enough voice minutes to listen and will permanently have a new voice message notification. 🤣

[daring bronze]

Petition for an artemis hate channel lol

Jeez

[nocturne torrent]

||how can i make the worm pet you get as an expedition 4 reward as big as possible? I used 2 storm crystals in one save, doesn't seem to be as big as the one in the trailer||

[atomic lynx]

Am I to understand this all exists cause some precurser race person was like "Alexa show me something I've never seen before?" 😂

[mental socket]

Try using stellar metals like indium, cadmium etc

[upbeat copper]

Why does the atlas want me to reset it? what does he gain with that?

[uncut harness]

because it’s dying

[upbeat copper]

But why do you want me to restart it? How can it be saved by restarting it?

And how is he dying?

[uncut harness]

because when your computer program is acting up, what do you do

let it act up? or close and restart

except in the context of nms, “rebooting” has consequences

[upbeat copper]

If the atlas dies ... what happens?

[uncut harness]

the universe ends

[upbeat copper]

What happens if you restart? (I did not restart the atlas, I was scared)

[uncut harness]

you go to Hilbert, Budullangr, Calypso, or Eissentam

[upbeat copper]

Last question, apart from restarting the atlas or leaving it there, what other endings are there?

[uncut harness]

pretty much it

during the end of the atlas path, you’re presented with the option of birthing a new star or walking away

which i guess counts as a different ending

[upbeat copper]

Ok thanks for the serious help, possibly I'll come back with more questions one of these days.

[uncut harness]

questions are how we all learn

[upbeat copper]

Ah, I have one more question, what is the telamon or what is its connection to the atlas?

[uncut harness]

it’s a sub protocol to monitor the atlas

to make sure everything is hunky dory

it’s also the thing in your exosuit that talks to you

[upbeat copper]

that's another question ... why is he in my telamon suit?

the only thing I can think of is that the atlas did not put it

[uncut harness]

there’s probably somewhere in the game that explains it. but given that your character is the last traveler created by the atlas, there’s less for Telamon to monitor in that regard

so why not tag along you

[upbeat copper]

hahaha I was bored Telamon

[uncut harness]

there’s more to it than that

i just don’t know

[upbeat copper]

Don't worry, you already helped me more than I thought. Thank you

[daring bronze]

@upbeat copper for future reference, dialogue has no impact of gameplay except for takinh you to one of the four types of galaxies as our good lily pointed out

Don't be scared to choose what you want, the game doesn't punish you

And if you're hesitant, save before you choose

[upbeat copper]

haha don't worry, the game passed to me months ago, I just had some doubts

[upbeat copper]

porque existen varios atlas?
because there are several atlases?

[uncut harness]

hay sólo uno atlas

there is only one atlas

gottem

[upbeat copper]

and all the atlas interfaces that we find throughout the game?

Are they the same being?

[uncut harness]

they’re just means of communicating with the atlas

no different than doing video chat with a person on a computer. the computer is not all of a sudden the person. pretty sure atlas interfaces just connect the player and the atlas

[upbeat copper]

oh Damn, thanks

[old acorn]

brb gonna go facetime god and ask him to make a star for me

[daring bronze]

What about the final interface, there has to be a central unit somewhere

[uncut harness]

likely, but i doubt within the atlas interfaces themselves

the central unit is somewhere in the universe

the final interface was just a means of interacting with said central unit

[daring bronze]

Nms lore is worse than dark souls lore

Jeez

At least in dark souls you can read about the lore with the items you get that paint a clear picture

In nms it's like

Kzzzzt 16//16//16//16

That's all you get lol

[plain mica]

From what I've heard a lot comes from planetary archives. I've only accessed like 4 of them, and one of them denied me access, lol

Can I have some info?? No, 16 you

[uncut harness]

The game ending is kinda hinted at from an early stage

I translated a string of binary code from a korvax, and it said “ATLAS”

[plain mica]

That is pretty cool

[daring bronze]

Maybe the atlas is our computers

[plain mica]

The Scientist in our base always asks for scan data for their simulation and I'm convinced he creates Atlas in some wild paradox, lol

Our computers as in real world computers? That is really true. NMS only exists because our computers are turning seeds into generated terrain

[uncut harness]

Space stations: actually have procedural exterior design that looks great. Space anomaly:SPHERE

[plain mica]

No planets really exist saved anywhere. Everything is just our computers processing rules into systems and planets. Even the 16 minutes until deletion is totally meta, some day, some year, no one will be playing No Man's Sky ever again

[silent gorge]

I can't seem to get the Soul Chamber section of Starbirth to trigger/start

I've got the Singularity Core (and the other organs) in my general exosuit inventory but i've jumped between lots of different planets with no new encounter

and i'm in euclid

[daring bronze]

you've got all four right?

or five?

there should be a cryptic message in your quest description

[silent gorge]

cracking void egg, matureo neuro thingy, mature heart, hardened shell, singularity core

heh "matureo"

[daring bronze]

hehe

[daring bronze]

☝🏻

[silent gorge]

yeah there's that cryptic message that is the symbols ending in "EUCLID EUCLID EUCLID"

[daring bronze]

what do the symbols mean

what mechanic uses symbols in this game

??

[silent gorge]

i've already made that connection 😉 i thought i was supposed to trigger another encounter but maybe i already did and lost track?

[daring bronze]

no encounter

go to where the symbols tell you

[silent gorge]

[facepalm] thanks 🙂

[daring bronze]

👍🏻

[silent gorge]

\o/ got it. thanks so much mr king. 🙂

[cursive marsh]

Just finished and got my baby worm. I'm so happy.

[cursive marsh]

12 hours is a nice short expedition.

[main trench]

5 hours for me.

[pseudo aurora]

4 hours in my case

[scenic jewel]

I remember a line from somewhere “They show me an algorithm for a mind. If placed in a machine it would be alive” and I think it’s from nms but I’m not sure. Does anyone remember this line? It’s kinda driving me crazy that I can’t figure out where it’s from.

[scenic jewel]

Nvm. Just remembered that it was one of the lines the atlas said (I think during the big choice).

[daring bronze]

@scenic jewel i think that's when ~null~ gives you the soul chamber

[scenic jewel]

Ok

[uncut harness]

@cyan mauve I'm at the final part of the atlas path should I do the reset or not?

What do I get for resetting?

[cyan mauve]

that sounds like the end of the artemis path, not atlas.

"reset" will transport you to a differnt galaxy.

(you get to pick what type of galaxy)

[uncut harness]

Ah okay

[cyan mauve]

despite the dramatic language, nothing will be "reset", you can still return home just fine by teleporter. make sure to place a basecomputer in the new galaxy before doing that though!

[uncut harness]

I think it was the artemis one because null was like nuuuu don't do it

Anyway thanks for the assistance

[uncut harness]

What do each of the colours mean?

[uncut harness]

Green is lush, Red is harsh, Blue is empty, Teal is norm

so Eissentam, Calypso, Budullangr, and Hilbert respectively iirc

Ah thanks

I did the green one

good

have fun

new galaxy for you to explore

A problem occurred tho

The parts that I had for a living ship are no longer in my inventory

Ah don't worry

I found it in my main ship

Phew

phee

It did reset the timer on the heart though

Gotta wait a new 24 hours and 33 minutes

[eternal radish]

I. Never. Got. To. Choose. My. Galaxy 😤

[heady wyvern]

1. Did you reject the offer at the end of the quest?
2. Did you actually, physically warp into the Galaxy Core?

[eternal radish]

Yes

But I didn't reject Atlas

[heady wyvern]

To get the choice, you need to wait out that 16/16 countdown and then use a portal to enter the Final Interface.

[eternal radish]

Ooooh

[heady wyvern]

"Actually, physically warping into the Core" was the thing you shouldn't have done... even though the quest says to do it.

[eternal radish]

So, just chill and ignore Atlas?

[heady wyvern]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal radish]

Or warp to the 15th Atlas Interface and then stop because NUMBER 15

[mossy phoenix]

Warning, spoilers: ||this channel has spoilers about no mans sky||

[eternal radish]

Lol imagine travelling to the 15th Atlas Interface and then ignoring Atlas from that point and then after waiting out the 16 "minutes" you hear Dylan saying " Number 15: Burgerking foot lettuce ". Then you hear that whole Burgerking story 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[upbeat copper]

what is the abyss? and what is its relationship with the atlas?

[flat egret]

guys

I don't want major spoilers but

what the hell is happening ? why do ppl think I'm artemis and send me messages saying "you left me kzzkkk---"

was the ship belonging to artemis?

how the hell do I search for artemis when there is 18 quadrillion planets in the whole game?

who is nada?

I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING

[uncut harness]

quintillion

[flat egret]

OML

HOW

[uncut harness]

limit of a 64 bit integer

[flat egret]

NONO LIKE

HOW DO I FIND ARTEMIS

WHO THE HELL IS ARTEMIS

I'M SO CURIOUS

LOL

[uncut harness]

a traveler

like you

[flat egret]

what does he have to do with me

[uncut harness]

Gunna see them soon.

keep playing. your questions will be answered

[flat egret]

?

[flat egret]

hm

[uncut harness]

or will they

emmirite??

[flat egret]

so I recently went to the anomaly to talk with nada, am I close?

[uncut harness]

did the game just introduce the anomaly to you?

[flat egret]

yes

[uncut harness]

if so you’re still a ways off from finishing

[flat egret]

ah

god

[uncut harness]

if you think this is weird, just keep goin

it gets cooler

[prime inlet]

i kinda stopped replying because i didn't know how to answer without spoiling more.

[flat egret]

xd

[uncut harness]

just tell them to play the game

[flat egret]

also It says search for clues among the stars for artemis, does it mean I will get a transmission of some kind?

[prime inlet]

tbh, i wouldn't ask anything else about it

yes

[flat egret]

hmm alr

[flat egret]

oo

alrrrr

ty

this game has the most interesting plot and my brain forces me to play it xd

[prime inlet]

i'll just say that even after the storyline is complete, there's more lore sources, that relate to you directly

[flat egret]

also if possible without spoiling, why does everyone know me?

if not

[prime inlet]

just keep playing

[flat egret]

I'M TOO CURIOUS LOL

ALR

[crisp fern]

binge dat story

[prime inlet]

at some point, you might even want to do another playthrough, but this time answering things differently

[limber pivot]

if u really want there could prob be a brief way to explain the storylines

[limber pivot]

sick

[dusk cobalt]

guys, can anyone please help me? i think i did something wrong in the storyline, sooo... i ||reset simulation|| and after i got teleported with the ||16...15...14...13...12...11..10...9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...|| seconds, i got teleported (again) into a planet in which i was left with every item destroyed, so i had to repair everything until i realised that the planet i was on was as deadly as **** and i kept dieing and getting my items back over and over UNTIL!!!!! i realised that i had another spaceship in my collection so i got out of there. and now i'm like.... Wtf just happened, can anyone explain? or atleast tell me if this is correct or no?

[icy citrus]

This is correct

You reset the sim, started in another iteration

[dusk cobalt]

but i started on a deadly planet, i was like dying without anything on me, i was stuck until i got my second star ship

[icy citrus]

Yeah, that's common

Your ship you had was there

Needed to fix visor and go to it, like when you first start

[dusk cobalt]

but it was broken too

[icy citrus]

Yep

[dusk cobalt]

oh

[icy citrus]

Breaks all tech not protected by tech slots

[dusk cobalt]

right..

[icy citrus]

Jumping through the core of a galaxy will as well

People use junkers or ships and multitools with nothing added if they make a habit of it

[dusk cobalt]

mhmmm

[short badger]

so uh, it kinda seems like the atlas wants you to reach the center and perform the reset
so why is it that when you go to the portals, talk to your ship computer etc it makes it sound like you're doing stuff the atlas doesn't want you to do, with "breach" this and "anomaly" that and "refused registration" the other

[crisp fern]

some flavor text ambience to reinforce the setting

[proper stone]

there is a milestone, walk on extreme planets
i found one with red climate text, but the counter doesnt grow
does it grow only during storms?

[muted moth]

if the exosuit voice said "extreme hazard planet" when you got out of your ship, it counts. you do have to be on foot, using the jet pack will not count. how many u is that for again?

^^ @proper stone

[icy citrus]

@proper stone @muted moth These aren't spoilers, use #nms-questions or #no-mans-sky

[upbeat copper]

How did the atlas manage to transfer the consciousness of its creator to simulation?

did he have a brain of his creator out there? ... or how?

[supple crater]

He didn't transfer their creators' consciousness? The Travellers are just made in the creators' image afaik.

[upbeat copper]

not that the atlas created the travelers from the memories of its creator?

[static abyss]

Very late but. Wutt

[brave wave]

i think there was a line that the atlas uploaded its creators brain into the simulation to make the travelers

then used said travelers to explore itself

[static abyss]

sus

[supple crater]

Oh

Yea forgot about that

[wind panther]

Expedition 5 patch

Who is good at translating those glyphs?

[viral yarrow]

i can do my part

gimme a min

[hybrid pendant]

Was gonna ask datamining

Maybe interesting stuff

@wind panther u saw changes elsewhere ?

[wind panther]

They didn't add a lot, but it does look like they updated the expedition 5 stuff

[crisp fern]

atlas requested permission to copy creator consciousness/memory prior to creator departure

[wind panther]

Bubble pipes were tweaked

[hybrid pendant]

Hmmm well it said the pipes stuff was gonna adapt its shape to where u place it

Guess its that

[wind panther]

Oh, I thought that was different pipes, the opaque ones

[viral yarrow]

_ARTOGRAP_ERS

Cartographers

[viral yarrow]

Are you sure that’s a new one?

[wind panther]

It's the new file, but they might have just copied the old one

[hybrid pendant]

Could be old yes

[viral yarrow]

Yeah I translated it to cartographers