nms-spoilers

[gaunt socket]

hey, I was wondering, if the universe is a simulation and nothing is real, is the Anomaly and those aboard real? or is nothing at all real?

[heady wyvern]

@gaunt socket None of it is real, everything is a simulation, you're living a lieeee

[gaunt socket]

:(

that makes the whole game so depressing

why couldn't they come up with something that doesn't give you post-nms depression

[heady wyvern]

Thing is

The message seems to be "does it really matter if it's a simulation? it's a world nonetheless."

[gaunt socket]

I used to be really anxious about whether or not existence was true. You might not be real, but you sure as hell are something

deep stuff

defo applies to real life

[glass flare]

I basically decided to ignore all their simulation story BS. it wasn't there at game launch and I already have my own head canon for my character. make the story what you want. it's your experience, not Sean's

[gaunt socket]

fair enough

hold up, hello games is the atlas

they are running the universe simulations

badaboom

[manic swan]

So, I reached the galactic core and warped into it before Atlas went all purgey-like. Now the counter has reset and all my stuff is broken. What is the point of reaching the galactic core?

[stuck rose]

move on to the next galaxy

[manic swan]

I mean, how is it relevant to the objective? Is the purge unavoidable?

[heady wyvern]

It's not relevant to the objective. You're supposed to wait out the whole 16/16 thing, then await instructions.

Also the ship breaking thing happens regardless.

[manic swan]

I see. Thanks.

[gaunt socket]

hey, I just finished the main storyline and I have a few questions:
does most of the action in terms of multiplayer happen in the Euclid galaxy?
if I had chosen to go to Hilbert and erase Euclid, what would be the consequences?
Is there still stuff to do in terms of story?

[heady wyvern]

Mostly. Some of it occurs in Eissentam too

[jovial violet]

because euclid has the highest player population, there'll be more mp opportunities there, but there are active player groups in basically every galaxy up to a certain point
the "erase" thing is just story flavour. euclid still exists, you can teleport back there any time. going to a new galaxy simply trashes your stuff and lets you explore the new galaxy, with free access back to your previous one
there are some story threads you could still follow, like the starbirth or base npc questlines. the main story paths (atlas and artemis) don't get any new content in a new galaxy, however

[gaunt socket]

alright, thanks for the answers!

i felt really bad for -null- near the end there when i shut him up :(

[mighty rampart]

the story was made with the context that you couldn't go back to the previous galaxy

now that the boundaries between universes have failed with further additions to the game the Atlas adds in order to repair itself, it's possible for us to go back to previous simulations (Euclid)

[fossil mountain]

Where can I read the lore

[red sky]

hi guys, sooo, i got all 16 gliphs for the purge and just got the star seed from atlas path. What now ? if i reach the center of the gaslaxy i will switch galaxy right ? what happens to the purge then ? will i have to redo it all ? what about viceversa ? if i use the portal and reach the final stage of the purge i will have to redo all of the atlas thingy in the new galaxy ? meaning i will also have to leave said galaxy ?

[gaunt socket]

wait so is artemis in a simulation in a simulation

i wonder what the real universe that the atlas was built in is like 🤔

[uncut harness]

Holographic chart projector is pretty cool

[wet copper]

A maybe expedition spoiler...I noticed plants that looked the same, but were registering different on my scanner. Also, I noticed a reference in their names to age, and whether or not they were sick...

My question...Are plants going to age now and change species as they age or get sick, resulting in different elemental properties?

[nocturne zephyr]

you mean the flavor text?

if not, you have a screenshot?

[fossil mountain]

Our character is dead and is in a simulation made by the atlas?

[heady wyvern]

There's no real evidence that our character ever "lived," per se. Could be that we were simply born from the Atlas itself.

In fact, there's ample evidence supporting the idea that we're supposed to be some sort of reconstruction of the Atlas's creator, a form of self-made surrogate parent.

Thus why the Atlas would trust you to make the final decision go through with the Purge.

[fossil mountain]

O

And if we live in a simulation, that also implies theres a normal world doesn't it?

[heady wyvern]

Yes, but it may also imply that there's no "top" in the series of nested simulations; that it goes indefinitely in both directions.

[fossil mountain]

Wowowowowo

[glass flare]

I think it's fair to say that it can't be infinite going up because the simulation runs on real world hardware that has performance limits

[bitter remnant]

to those who don't like the simulation lore.... I decided to lean into it, since it helps explain the bugs in the game.... just glitches in the simulation! 🤣

[karmic orbit]

i cracked hard reading this

[bitter remnant]

@karmic orbit It really works! Now is bug is actually more immersive, rather than breaking immersion!

I blame the Atlas whenever something weird happens.

[stuck rose]

You dare oppose me, mortal?

[bitter remnant]

🤷‍♂️ uh?

[mighty rampart]

yeah and also you can also consider stuff like modding and save editing as canon

breaking the universal boundaries to our advantage

[snow lintel]

Hi, i have a problem with a story mission (The First Traveller), it say to locate the crashed freighter and i located it but nothing happen, help??????

[karmic orbit]

interract with the terminal (?)

[mighty rampart]

yeah interact with the distress beacon

[snow lintel]

i dont see any beacon

[mighty rampart]

there's definitely one

[snow lintel]

nope

[mighty rampart]

its the same design as the beacon you interacted in the beginning of the game next to your starship

and the crashed freighter from early on

[icy citrus]

On the raised platform near the landing beacon

[fossil mountain]

Like glitched planets

And also

Where can I read the lore of the game

Other than that short version in the fandom

[tame shell]

^ i second this question
id love to know more about the lore

[shell pawn]

Does anything neat happen if you get to the center before the end of The Purge?

[jovial violet]

a lot of the lore added in 1.3 is still in game today, and can be read here: https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/nms-lore-more-spoilers-version-1-38/3318
i've yet to find a lore dump like this that contains anything new than 1.3, unfortunately, but this should still be a good start! the main quests have only changed in relatively minor ways since this, anyway, and there's some newer entries for things like the boundary failures out there as well

[jovial violet]

nah, as far as i know, the purge still continues in the next galaxy if you core jump first

[shell pawn]

I figured as much, thanks for confirming

[jovial violet]

it's certainly a missed opportunity! but such is the way of things

[gaunt socket]

Yeah that's what I'm interested in

I want to know who built the Atlas, why, and what the real world is like

[uncut harness]

Ah then you want Waking Titan lore.

https://wiki.gamedetectives.net/index.php?title=Waking_Titan

[gaunt socket]

Ok!

[uncut harness]

Directly tied in to NMS via ARG. Sets up some stuff that is happening outside the sim.

[gaunt socket]

Woah that is so cool!!

So the simulated world is actually being created and run by the Atlas Corporation irl?

[pallid sonnet]

I have a Station overide

Aces denied

Woho

IT does nothing

Maybe i Need to use IT in a difrent systeme

Nope doesent work

[nimble zinc]

Station Override (from Expedition 3) does nothing now, right?

[uncut harness]

nope

[severe sun]

Doesn't carry over to your main save either.

[nimble zinc]

Got it, ty for the answer

[wet copper]

I'm confused.

I spoke to the atlas, asked who it was and it quoted Brian Kernighan

Hello, World

Is Brian Kernighan Atlas?

[wet copper]

This grave stone is depressing

So, it looks like the Korvax were experimenting with sentience, themselves...Creating personalities

[gaunt socket]

Is it canon that the Atlas was created by an irl organisation called The Atlas Foundation to run universe simulations?

[jovial violet]

if you take waking titan as canon, yes

i hesitate to say waking titan's story is super consistent with the game itself, and i personally don't feel it's as canonical as any in-game sources, but it's good fun anyway

[steep crescent]

It just sucks for me to let Artemis die even though I didn't want to. 😦
But I wouldn't have been comfortable knowing I'm being kept alive by a simulation

[uncut harness]

have you finished the main story?

@steep crescent

[steep crescent]

yes

[uncut harness]

odd you say you “wouldn’t have been comfortable knowing you’re being kept alive by a simulation”

cus that’s literally what’s happening lol

[steep crescent]

I was referring to real life in that

like being held alive by a machine

[uncut harness]

you wouldn’t know, and neither would artemis

[steep crescent]

true, lucky my children will get a nice surprise in my will as I have specific conditions regarding "brain" dead

[tawdry mica]

So what does the override chip do? I got one on the expedition but never ended up using it

[uncut harness]

nothing lmao

[tawdry mica]

Awesome

[uncut harness]

given that there was speculation of some big update to space stations, it may serve a purpose then

who knows

but locking behind content behind an expedition? that ain’t right

[tawdry mica]

I was 🧍‍♀️

[uncut harness]

or maybe it’s something we’ll all get in said update and sean is just giving people who completed the expedition a head start

[tawdry mica]

True

Do I get it in only that save? I have a main one I’d prefer

[heady wyvern]

Yes

[echo hemlock]

We need more pet slots

Some of the anomalous pets are so cool

[uncut harness]

Hey guys i'm at the moment in the artemis mission when I have the choice to send him in a simulation or to kill him if i got it, does my decision make a diffrence ? What should i do ?

[mighty rampart]

your choice doesn't matter ultimately but sending him to the sim will net you some more dialogue with them

[uncut harness]

ok thanks

When exaclty does the artemis missions end ? Is it over now that I have put him in the sim and it's now with Apollon and the weird guy with a lightbulb head or is it not over yet ?

[mighty rampart]

yeah not yet, just few more missions left

[uncut harness]

ok thanks

[shell pawn]

My first time playing the mission I told Artemis she's in a sim, then I finished and now I never tell her. Because she was always in a sim, just a smaller one now.

I've never killed her though

[stuck rose]

kill her

end her suffer

[shell pawn]

Right before The Purge, ATLAS asks if I want to die, if I say Yes, does anything happen?

[trail sedge]

Does the purge reset have any consequence?

[uncut harness]

not really

[gaunt socket]

canonically, it resets your life, but in game, all that really happens is your ship breaks and the characters forget you

and of course, you are sent to a different galaxy

[wet copper]

I've watched on youtube suggestions that the 16 refers to the minutes left in the universe and that we're a product of Atlas (a supercomputer that simulates reality for research purposes) trying to understand the last 16 minutes of its existence as a blackhole approaches after its creators have long since left....Is this canon?

Each dive into a new galaxy being a means of stretching out time...A blackhole within a blackhole as it were.

[uncut harness]

That's definitely canon. Simulation is 100% approaching/being approached by a blackhole.

Or at least in close proximity to.

[wet copper]

This decision regarding Artemis is sick...

Decide whether or not a dead person should sit in purgatory for whats left of this universe or cease....

I want a third option. Ask Artemis what he wants.

To go to the unknown or live knowing nothing is real.

Correction: Nothing is what it was.

[mighty rampart]

thing is that third option was never going to happen, all this time you were talking to what was essentially a tape recorder with slight sentience

[uncut harness]

Yep, just left over data that hasn't been over written yet.

[mighty rampart]

the point HG wanted to make was either decision would lead to the same outcome

[wet copper]

There really is only one choice that is not cruel and self serving.

Though I am confused by the narrative presented

They say he is suffering.

He's either been dead or he's not and is suffering.

[uncut harness]

It used to be longer tbh, the Artemis story has been cut a lot.

[wet copper]

It's interesting. No matter how many times I do this mission, I still feel resentment and regret for it...There is no good ending...and I hate that

I find myself each time spending a moment afterwards collecting my anger

Like bits and pieces of a story you got too wrapped into

Even knowing the ending, I still try to do it and change it...and fail every time.

[lusty sleet]

Just found that fluffy creature in the Korvax factory

what are all the outcomes

[wet copper]

This is confusing writing...

Help its suffering?

Its suffering does not need help.

Now, ease or increase its suffering, that's another issue, but helping suffering is nonsensical.

Is Atlas a masochist that needs someone to whip it?

[uncut harness]

Atlas is suffering, Atlas thinks it is dying and is doing everything to not die.

[wet copper]

By helping its suffering, we're making it suffer more...hence my confusion

We're helping the state it wishes to not be in

Allegedly

[uncut harness]

Atlas believes that a reset is the key to not dying, hence the repeating cycles. It's happened before and will continue happening over and over and over again.

Your character is the missing piece of triggering the reset, as were all the other Travellers that have existed and will exist.

Each reset brings corrupted data, worlds become intertwined with each other. Planets that don't exist but somehow do.
Each reset cycle is just the Atlas panicking again and trying to stop itself from dying again. An endless suffering but doing everything in its power to make sure it doesn't happen, but it's going to no matter what.

[wet copper]

Yeah last I checked, there were only 1,946,218,912,121 errors in 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets. The Atlas told me there were only 2,611,384 Sentinels misbehaving tho...So that's nice?

What gives with the sentinels fighting one another

[uncut harness]

Heyoo

[tame shell]

i pictured a VS Code screen showing 1946218912121 errors in Atlas's code

im terrified now

[ashen carbon]

What's there after The Purge? I landed on Eissentam and now it says just explore. I'm guessing there are no more primary quests after this? TIA

[icy citrus]

Artemis Path and Atlas path are the 2 primary quest lines

So if you did those, that's it for the story quest lines as of now

[nocturne wedge]

After I reset the simulation, Nada and Polo don’t remember me anymore?

That hurts

[stuck rose]

but makes sense

[gaunt socket]

wait, but due to walking titan, we know that the atlas Foundation built it on what appears to be earth...

Black hole apocalypse??

[late patio]

just got to the end of 16/16 whaaaat the heck. Was that just a big 4th wall break? the NMS universe is literally just self aware that its a simulation? or was atlas lying? This whole thing is a brain mangler

oh wait, theres more its telling me to tell nada and polo the fate of atlas

[dawn osprey]

was it ever 100% confirmed that it was a black hole? Or just speculation based on the remembrance terminal text

[sacred solar]

@opal kite didnt hirk throw nal off of a mountain because they were jealous the atlas didnt speak to them, but spoke to nal?

[plucky stratus]

So...I just got to the reset point. Are the four different Galaxy choices significant? I have...a rebuilt, an ancestral, a serene, and a burning galaxy. I'm assuming whatever one I press reset on i go to?

[opal kite]

well that's one version, but if you piece it all together what happened was Nal was starting a rebellion against the idea of warring against the Sentinels. Nal saw it as folly. Hirk saw it as a necessity. Don't just take one excerpt as what happened, but rather as a view of what happened from a particular perspective.

did it have anything to do with the ATLAS? maybe, but if so it was simply that both sought to use it as a rallying point around what they wanted. When it didn't go in Hirk's favor... well, the rest as they say, its history.

The way of the sentinels actively suppresses the development of sentient species. Hirk sought to end this because it held the Vy'keen back. Nal was willing to accept being suppressed because the alternative was being destroyed (in his belief). Turned out they were both wrong and were both right. Hirk was right, you CAN fight against the sentinels and keep them from suppressing you. Nal was right in that they will never stop coming. Ever. So it boils down to, do you allow yourself to be suppressed or do accept you will have to fight against the foe forever. Vy'keen as a species chose the latter. Warring against the sentinels eternally is acceptable. Being suppressed eternally is not.

where the Vy'keen plan failed was not planning for the treachery of the Gek. Vy'keen being what they are, they will now build up until they can take on both the Gek and the Sentinels at the same time. that is who they are. warring against those suppressing them eternally, is acceptable. no, it is right. it is as it should be. GRAH.

[opal kite]

they are the four types of galaxies. each has a different priority in types of planets that are generated.

they all have all the planet types, it's just a matter of what is most common. in the normal type of galaxy like Euclid, they are generated pretty evenly. in galaxies like Eissentam it favors nice weathered planets with lots of life on them.

[plucky stratus]

Ooooooh

Thanks :D

[opal kite]

make a save before you choose, then copy that file to another folder for safekeeping. then try out each of the different types to see what they are like

[plucky stratus]

I'm on console xD

[opal kite]

bummer

in that case you'll just need to find people on nexus in each type to see what they are like

[plucky stratus]

Honestly, lush stuff sounds nice after planet after planet of death

[opal kite]

the important thing to remember is that they all have all types of planets, it's just a matter of what types are more common

[sacred solar]

thank you for the rundown

[opal kite]

of course that's my own biased interpretation, because i chose to back the honorable and righteous Vy'keen. Those who like Gek probably see things differently, because they chose to back evil little backstabbing snotgobblers... 8P

[copper oracle]

marginally spoiler-ish question

is the presence (or otherwise) of a Traveller on a station fixed per system, or is it RNG'd on system entry, for example?

[zinc shale]

So I’ve got to the end of the Atlas mission, I’ve ||created a new star, has a new star system ACTUALLY been created? Can I visit it?||

Also the last step of the Atlas mission is back on my log even though I finished it, is that intentional?

(If somebody replies pls ping me so I don’t miss it!)

[supple crater]

No.

And Atlas Path kinda repeats itself, still not sure if that's intentional or not. The mission may pop in and out of your log randomly.

[zinc shale]

Thanks!

[supple crater]

You can go through the black hole it directs you to, I like to think the star system you pop in is your star system.

[mighty rampart]

do you get to see black hole systems when you go to a new galaxy?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[mighty rampart]

ok then I dont think atlas path is intentionally made to restart

I was assuming maybe you cant see black holes when you go to a new galaxy

[heady wyvern]

A traveller's presence in a system's station, far as I am aware, is fixed one way or the other for all players, due to how the procgen system works

[nocturne wedge]

Is there any reason why we don't see Artemis again after we reset the simulation? Theoretically, the story should start all over again, right?

[wet copper]

Alright. Who is this Atlantid I'm reading about now?

The Void Mother

Chronologically, it would seem that this Atlantid existed in the game at the 19th minute. So 3 minutes before the events of NMS take place.

The Korvax seem enamored with it.

They said it was the living flesh of ATLAS

[mighty rampart]

yeah oddly enough that is all we know

I have a feeling its tied to the living ship in some way

[zinc lagoon]

I hope they flesh that out in a future update 👀

[formal basin]

I can’t even do that Atlas path.

It just disappeared one day.

Never to return.

[void tree]

There are a set of side missions I had to do to progress with atlas, but just make sure to keep asking polo for coordinates to atlas

[icy citrus]

If you go to a portal, and use the address of that system, substituting for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th glyph - that will be an Atlas system in the region

If you actually want it back

[tidal hamlet]

k

for free quicksilver stuff

have at least 3200 qs in the bank

exit ship in nexus

and then

|| not telling cuz u have to earn it the hard way LOOOOLLLL xD ||

and thats all u have to do

ez

[fiery ginkgo]

Rude

You actually got me

[glass lake]

is there anymore story or anything new to do once you have reached a new galaxy?

[heady wyvern]

Assuming you did it by getting 16/16'd, going to the Final Interface, and choosing what flavor of "get me out of here" you prefer, no.

[glass lake]

I refused the atlas and then travelled to the centre,

[rose dock]

if i reset the galaxy at the end of the storyline, what happens to my freighter, ships and storage? do i lose them or keep them?
Also, will i be able to return to my bases and settlement in the starter galaxy trough teleport and portals?

[icy citrus]

Keep, yes to teleporters, portals are same galaxy only

[rose dock]

so if i have a base on the first and the second galaxy, i can just move between them with teleporters?
and i can just use the portal codes of said galaxy, if i'm there right?

[icy citrus]

Correct

[rose dock]

Thank you for the answers 🙂

[icy citrus]

No problem Traveller

[indigo smelt]

I wonder though, does the station override item exist in the game even? I wonder what would happen if someone cheated it in and tried to use it?

Considering this is close to future content, I put this in the spoiler channel.

[icy citrus]

It is in the game, actually a reward from the expedition, just doesn't do anything

[indigo smelt]

That’s interesting.

[mighty rampart]

yeah and its not a bugged entry otherwise it would have been patched by now, they intentionally gave it to everyone

[indigo smelt]

I do find it interesting the console calls it a "trade path and landing overseer"

[vivid fog]

is there any difference in the storyline if you upload or delete artemis?

[icy citrus]

Bit more dialogue if you upload, no ramifications as far as missing items or something

[cursive frigate]

Hey, that made me think, now thar qs unlocks are account wide what happens if you rollback a save after buying something?

[upbeat nest]

Need help but this is kind of a spoiler. I finished the campaign years ago on another save. My multitool has no empty slots and I need to install the boltcaster mod. Do I need to worry about what I remove? Should I remove the advanced mining laser?

[icy citrus]

Not a spoiler, all good. You can own 3 multitools now if you don't want to destroy something

If you do, you can always build it again

[upbeat nest]

Ok thanks

[mental socket]

anything interesting in the latest 7.3gb experimental?

[uncut harness]

Checked the modding forum, it seems like they updated a ton of DDS files, but visually they look the same.

[uncut harness]

If you happen to get it don't use it on your main save yet because it just takes it away

[timid valve]

How do I get glyphs I’ve done all the Artemis missions

I’m up the the purge if that helps

[stuck rose]

Progress through the Atlas path

and then do the 16 jumpings

[timid valve]

How long will that take?

[stuck rose]

if you have all already prepared + interacting with the Atlas at the Atlas station for each jump, an hour or two

[icy citrus]

No

What

Glyphs aren't from the Atlas Path

If you completed the Purge as part of the Artemis Path, you have all the glyphs, if not that's what you do

[stuck rose]

O all right, my bad

[steep crescent]

I just did the Purge Part, and was kinda bummed afterwards. Have to fix everything again

[timid valve]

Is there more story after the purge

[heady wyvern]

No. Not from that quest line, anyway

[dense phoenix]

If i haven't missed anything
Is it ever mentioned what the real world outside the Atlas simulation is like?
Is it actually humans that built the Atlas?

[timid valve]

I’ve just started the purge how far into the story am I

[icy citrus]

Almost at the end

[timid valve]

So I get all the glyphs pretty much at the end

[uncut harness]

Never bothered to ask but why does Nada refer to the Atlas as Atlas-Falsity? Or is that some other entity that they’re referring to?

They probably explained but I forgot or missed it

[mighty rampart]

spite, sorta

feeling anger towards the Atlas for being the false god of the Korvax

among other things

[uncut harness]

What lead to the Atlas becoming the god of the Korvax

and did it become so before or after they were free from Gek enslavement

[mighty rampart]

before, I think

oh its after

based on the Colossal Archive of the korvax

[uncut harness]

If it was before their freedom, it’d make sense. All groups in times of peril need something to look up to

[mighty rampart]

also on that topic, the wiki seems to be missing some entries? I had a very interesting one today which actually mentioned the korvax's relationship with the atlas

I only have the last line

[uncut harness]

Every alien that writes data logs in this game sounds like the same pretentious 19 year old writer

Kinda sus ngl

[mighty rampart]

eh

definitely much better than other games where it most certainly feels like some pretentious writer copying off of Tolkien

[uncut harness]

imagine copying off tolkien

hobbit was the worst book i’ve ever read in my entire life

[mighty rampart]

ok found the text

thank you https://www.nomansskyresources.com/forum/lore-raw-data/colossal-archive-data

The Atlas Interfaces uplifted the early civilisations of this universe. We became more than we were. 
Hypothesis 1: The Korvax were once organic. We gradually / rapidly altered our beings. We uploaded / improved our own minds. This was our choice / was forced upon us.
Hypothesis 2: The Korvax have always been machines. We evolved from the noise of stars / we were created through Atlas imperative. We were once as Sentinels / we learned from Sentinels.
Hypothesis 3: There is no cause, no effect, no time. To impose it is to misunderstand the sadness of the Atlas. We are the dreams of metal. ```

Prime Era
Korvax Convergence born on leylines of Korvax-Prime, gift of first Monolith. [Murdered]

Second Era
Second Convergence Era, formed in Dark Times. Collectives hiding on Balaron established new networks. [Subverted/Enslaved]
[REDACTED]

Third -kzzkt-

The archive refuses access to the next entries in this log. I skip to the end.

Seventh Convergence. Must not fall. Must not forget. Atlas imperative: Discover. Harvest. Know. Korvax will do the same.
Physical markers must remain until the end. Must endure for Traveller-Return. Must be known. Even in reality-fall, they see who we were. What we could have been. Our shadows of a greater being.
Traveller has come back... will forgive... will read... will know...```

so yes it does seem that after the whole enslavement thing and a few convergences later they seem to be kind of forced to worship the Atlas?

third to sixth convergences being missing is quite creepy

also to note that the Korvax (notably Korvax Prime) were actually based on earlier models of the Atlas' AI

as noted by this boundary failure log

SCENARIO: Planetary Structure ‘Korvax Prime’ destroyed by lifeform designates ‘Gek’ (subclass: FIRST SPAWN).

Sub-routine ‘Convergence’ [pseudo-lifeform] enslaved by ‘Gek’, proceeding to harness sub-routine to conquer Outer Edge in countless iterations. Sub-routine leads to direct [-------] worship by ‘Gek’.

ANALYSIS: Disturbing fable. Destruction of world, artificial intelligence partially modelled after earlier forms of [-------] destroyed/enslaved, until this intelligence triumphs and [-------] is worshipped by organic users of this technology. Hypothesis: [-------] experiencing breakdown.```

[-------] is Atlas

[burnt fern]

If I change my ship and multitool before i reset the simulation and enter a new galaxy. Will my main ship and multitool be undamaged?

[heady wyvern]

Only your active ship and tool will be damaged in the jump.

[indigo smelt]

Does the portal system have much logic behind it? Like, if I do x16, will that get me somewhere?

I have yet to try random dialing.

But I was wondering if someone figured out the coordinate system.

[uncut harness]

Basically the symbols are related to to your planet's coörds. U can see it by placing down a signal booster and there should be something like 821:17b:917:991h

[empty cedar]

3k ly from a gateway system.

[indigo smelt]

From the core? Interesting.

Can hardly imagine you would need 16 dimensions in order to get a location within a galaxy.

There is 1 per planet.

You would need at least 3 dimensions for stars, another one for planets(unless systems can have more than 16 planets, which I have never seen before)

[mighty rampart]

First glyph is planet the monolith is on, next 3 glyphs is the system it is in, and the rest glyphs are for the x-y-z coordinate within that region

[indigo smelt]

Thats interestingly convoluted and overcomplicated.

[mighty rampart]

No not really

There's a finite number of systems in a region

[indigo smelt]

True, but 16 glyphs means 16^16 possible combinations.

More than a galaxy.

[rancid ether]

Only 12 glyphs to an address, and as mentioned, the first glyph is the planet index, which means a legitimate address can only go up to for its first glyph (systems are limited to 6 planets/moons max) before it starts approximating. There's also bounds for the x, y, and z values, anything outside of their range gets approximated to a system next to the outer edge of the galaxy. This means substantially less 'possible' addresses before taking into account phantom systems.

[grave nebula]

so these atlas interference light balls, do only some give you words?

[grave nebula]

Am I supposed to be making these seeds?

[icy citrus]

You will need them to craft the end item, yes

It is a chain, you make the first and then the second uses that in its recipe, and so on - don't need to have one of each

[grave nebula]

word

[ebon pelican]

Does the Atlas Path mission ever go away or "complete"? I've inserted a heart of the sun and received the blueprint for the star seed three times now.

[icy citrus]

Not unless it glitches, and then it will likely return anyways

[grave nebula]

Anyone know ow the atlas path story leading up to the heart of the sun? Like currently I have the heart of the sun in my possession and I'm in the interface. But I've had a hard time following the story up to this point

[heady wyvern]

I never really bothered to track the plot or lore that's supposed to be part of the Atlas Path. I just took the seeds and went.

[tall glen]

ok so im at a choice which one should i choose? Let artemis live in a simulation or let her die?

[sudden pond]

neither choice matters in the end really. youll still be able to complete everything, it just changes a bit of text at the end

do whatever you feel is right

[drifting pulsar]

If you don't end him you get him popping up a few more times later in the story... Didn't notice this untill my 5th or so playthrough when i finally let him live 😅

[lusty steppe]

so I got the freighter mission

and this dude offering me a 19 slot A class freighter

it's worth 18.4 mil

is that a good one to get?

[stuck rose]

seems like a deal to me

[inland wagon]

does my progress with upgrades and stuff reset after i make a choice about the universe?

[icy citrus]

No

[south rapids]

What am I to expect if I choose to purge the atlas? What all stays and what changes or gets deleted?

I'm just afraid all my bases and stuff will be delete, all my inventory lost, etc

[icy citrus]

Nothing will be deleted

[supple crater]

Nothing changes from a gameplay perspective*; Nada/Polo forget about you, and that's about the only thing I noticed.
*Minus what Gleam's saying, but it's not permanent.

[icy citrus]

Tech not in tech slots will break

For suit, ship and multitool

Active ship and multitool, so you could use a junker

[south rapids]

So active multitool and ship components will break but I still will have them?

[icy citrus]

Yep

[south rapids]

Okay. That doesn't sound too bad

[icy citrus]

Just the ones not in tach slots for your ship and suit

Tech*

[south rapids]

They made it sound so bad and they should have a screen with bullet points of what will happen lol

[icy citrus]

Lol

[south rapids]

Ahh okay. And thank you lol

[icy citrus]

Nah, some repairing, but you keep everything - if you want to go back to the last galaxy, make sure to make a base in your new first

[trail sedge]

So once you’ve completed the purge you can travel to and from galaxies via bases you’ve constructed?

[icy citrus]

Yep

You can do it before that also, by joining someone in another, or visiting a base in another - and then making one yourself

[trail sedge]

Oh right on ok, I’ve been putting off finishing that mission but probably just gonna dive in

[sacred solar]

Artemis the original modder. Settings: Exosuit Voice Off

[icy citrus]

Lol

[hallow chasm]

can you get rid of most modifiers for settlements or are ones like "legacy nanobots" there to stay and it's better to just go for a good tier settlement?

[supple crater]

#nms-questions

[hallow chasm]

ah, ok thanks

[swift flint]

o/

[heady wyvern]

@swift flint Your bases in Euclid will remain. As long as you have at least one base in each galaxy, you can teleport between them at will. Your inventory, ship collection, freighter and fleet will be safe, though your suit, active ship, and active multi tool's technology will be damaged

[swift flint]

So what’s the point?

[heady wyvern]

Expand your reach

[swift flint]

Thanks. I’m playing with my kid and I don’t want to end somewhere he can’t go

[heady wyvern]

Also certain galaxies have different planetary biome distribution.

[swift flint]

Hmmm

[swift flint]

How does multiplayer work with that? Like if people change galaxies to different ones

[heady wyvern]

@swift flint As usual.

Players in the same galaxy will see players who are in the same galaxy.

The Anomaly, however, pulls players across all galaxies

[swift flint]

Hmm I guess I’ll have to try

[heady wyvern]

You can still join games hosted by players in different galaxies

Portals, however, can only send you to destinations within the same galaxy.

[swift flint]

Well there goes all those shared coordinates

[heady wyvern]

Well, remember, you CAN go back to Euclid as long as you have a base there

[swift flint]

ahhhh

[swift flint]

ok how do I go back to the ATLAS to tell him to reboot

[heady wyvern]

@swift flint If you refused to reset at the end of the quest line, the choice will be forever lost to you. You may still proceed to another galaxy by entering the Galactic Core, but that will only take you to the next galaxy in the list of galaxies.

Or, you know, you could hail a cab.

[swift flint]

Oh, that sucks. It said 'the choice will always be there for you' so I thought I could

[heady wyvern]

Yeah, it does

If you wish to select which galaxy you go to, I'll direct you to this resource here:

!StarCabLink

uhh

crap

@swift flint https://discord.gg/WgUdnbZJjh

You can go here to call a Starcab. You can use this to go pretty much anywhere in the greater NMS universe.

[swift flint]

ok, that makes sense

basically I join someone's game and teleport to their base I guess

Man really bummed I didn't reset :\

[heady wyvern]

Yeah, you got the general gist

[icy citrus]

Run that command again please

[heady wyvern]

!StarCabLink

[icy citrus]

Oh wonder if it is the channel lol didn't even look

!starcablink

[cloud jolt]

https://discord.gg/WgUdnbZJjh

[icy citrus]

I see

Thanks!

[icy citrus]

@novel spoke doesn't work on any but Artemis

[novel spoke]

Thats not a spoiler thats a secret

[icy citrus]

If you made the rules, maybe

You don't though

[magic wharf]

@sacred solar what

[sacred solar]

doing the artemis quest line will end with a mission called "the purge" at the end of which you get to select a galaxy type to go to, if you choose to "reset the simulation" and then choose the green galaxy option youll be sent straight to Eissentam.

if you core jump you go to galaxy #2, Eis is #10, and im not sure what happens if you finish the purge in a galaxy other than Euclid. you could end up having to do 8 more core jumps to get to Eissentam

core jumps just take you to the next galaxy, sequentially

[magic wharf]

So there isn’t a fast way to get to eis?

I have to do core jumps 9 times?

[sacred solar]

@prime inlet if youre around, what happens if you finish the purge in Hilbert (for example)?

[sacred solar]

i described the quick way in my first comment above

[magic wharf]

Oh didn’t notice

[sacred solar]

its all good

[prime inlet]

basically what happens if you finish it in any galaxy; the orb you choose will spawn you in the next correspondent galaxy type on the list

say you finish in HD; take the teal orb, you will spawn in the next norm galaxy on the list, which is Hesperius

[magic wharf]

I can do the purge immediately so I will do that

[sacred solar]

youd go to Eis because its the next Lush, but finish in #11 and youd go to Isdoraijung?

for green*

[magic wharf]

What?

I wanna go to eis

I’m confused

[prime inlet]

that's it, you got it @sacred solar

[sacred solar]

were having a separate convo, just finsih the purge, select the option to reset the galaxy, select green, and youll go straight to Eis @magic wharf

[sacred solar]

ok great, thank you!

[prime inlet]

np

[magic wharf]

I can warp to the purge immediately so I will do that

Okay I warped you the galaxy centre

Just gonna vibe to the music till it’s done loading

[sacred solar]

Living Ships sus?

[supple crater]

Spherical mass encased in metal.

Atlas.

[sacred solar]

"Biological ships orbiting the sentient world."

[supple crater]

Safe to say living ships aren't the only biological ships.

[sacred solar]

hmm... but they are one of them... and they have decision making skills

i wouldnt call sentinels biological either so what other biological ships are there?

[cyan mauve]

@uncut harness why do you think artemis is dead?

[uncut harness]

i just did a mission and seen her grave?

idk it said she wasd ead

[cyan mauve]

@uncut harness but death is not ... death in NMS? if you die, you also leave a grave, but can return there, pick up your stuff, and move on.

@uncut harness please give me a ping when you reach a point in the storyline that explains why i am amused about you considering artemis dead. 😄

[mighty rampart]

Artemis was already dead, that was the point

you also leave a grave, but can return there, pick up your stuff, and move on only applies to us as we are the anomalies of the simulation

everybody else dies forever

in case of Artemis, all that was left was their Echo, last bits of repeating data

[uncut harness]

im at a point where i upload her to a machine or let her die

so i think shes dead

idk which to pick

[cyan mauve]

@uncut harness pick whichever seems right to you, and tell me which you picked, and why. 😄

[uncut harness]

i uploaded her to the system

i wanted her to suffer more

[cyan mauve]

that is ... uh ... an interesting choice of reason. 😄

so why do you think a virtual existence is "death" and/or "suffering"?

[uncut harness]

because its not a live

wtf

breathing and having a body is different than being uploaded into a machine

[cyan mauve]

but what if you dont know you are inside the machine, and you think you are breathing and having a body?

you will have some more decisions to make regarding artemis, when you get to these points please ping me again and tell me which choices you made. 😄

[uncut harness]

ill pick the ones to make her suffer

[cyan mauve]

that actually doesnt allow me to predict which choices you will make, since while i know what the options are, i dont know which one you will consider to be "more suffering". very interesting.

[heady wyvern]

You might come to understand that the choice you just made is more complicated than you initially thought.

[cyan mauve]

well, for now i enjoy the sight of them digging a deeper hole to fall into... 😄

[uncut harness]

ez jetpack

[uncut harness]

i told artemis the truth that shes in a simulation hope she suffers

[cyan mauve]

did you notice they seemed to be pretty happy in their new home?

[uncut harness]

yea but now they know its fake

so its ok

[cyan mauve]

so "knowing you are in a simulation" means "suffering" to you? takes note

maaaan, and something like this has to happen when my popcorn budget is already strained due to the brexit news...

[uncut harness]

let me guess my character is in one too

[cyan mauve]

just tell me when you get to the point in the storyline that explains why i am amused. i will have some additional details for you at that point, most likely.

[sacred solar]

"wanted her to suffer more" 👀

i put Artemis in the sim because i figured it was better for them to continue to have a lil somewhere to live and explore 🤷‍♂️

[cyan mauve]

did you tell them the truth or lied to them?

[heady wyvern]

If that was the motive, I'd assume they would have lied to Artemis.

[sacred solar]

lied at first

[steep crescent]

Where does one find Heart of the Sun Recipe?

I looked at the Anomaly and don't find it there

[icy citrus]

Do the Atlas Path

[steep crescent]

So I keep jumping the planets to find the Atlas thing and hope for the best?

[icy citrus]

No, you follow along and each step gives you a recipe, which is used to make the next recipe

[steep crescent]

thanks

[icy citrus]

Np

[fringe notch]

How the heck did I not explore korvax lore.

Im finding bits of lore in the archive refering to the first korvax

ABSOLUTELY blows me out of the water.

Apparently a lot of mentions of Soul capturing individuals who died, via a process of transcription

In otherwords, the first korvax were real people, non-digital souls, copied into digital format

That changes my entire context for them

Then I ran into a sorta riddle refering to the korvax as tick tocks.

Not sure who was writing this down, from the writers perspective, clearly not korvax.

[sacred solar]

very fasciniating, i need to go to more monoliths/archives to learn more

[fringe notch]

I wonder what percetage of Korvax are old souls and which are just digital recreations without a basis from a organic soul

Id assume most are just iterations

[sacred solar]

well arent they on like, the 9th generation or later?

i had an archive the other day talking about the first generation going to rest, then there was a little somethin about the 2nd and 3rd, then a bunch of redacted info, then the 9th

[fringe notch]

yeah

Hrmm, and Nada was 5th I think?

[sacred solar]

nope im mixing up two diff entries

[fringe notch]

Youd have to tell me

[sacred solar]

i was just looking it up

[fringe notch]

Another thing I found was info that says, many divergent convergences exist

mostly criminals though

Who they follow isnt clear as of yet

[sacred solar]

the two i mixed are titled "Rememberance" and "Holograms"

Rememberance has reference to 7th convergence

[sacred solar]

interesting...

[fringe notch]

Well, there is signs there is a negative force, a enemy outside the simulation, much like nada and polo but evil

and this ... thing, may be leading some korvax to self harm

Youll notice the korvax pirates reference it at times

[sacred solar]

the Abyss

[fringe notch]

Yeah

[sacred solar]

upside down Atlas

[uncut harness]

what are anomalies exactly?

[fringe notch]

I get a feeling were going to run into that more someday

[sacred solar]

i hope so

[fringe notch]

You mean like the anamolies on planets you read lore Nade?

[sacred solar]

anomalies like space encounters?

a lot of things are called anomalies in this game

well.. 3 that i can think of

[uncut harness]

Anomalies are objects that don't/shouldn't exist in the simulation.

Data left over before a disk defrag.

[fringe notch]

Given the state of the simulation, none to surprising

[uncut harness]

anoamlies like race

[sacred solar]

idk but they been in their suits too long without a shower

[uncut harness]

lol

[fringe notch]

lol

Havent we all 😛

Well except Korvax, they are the suits

lol

[uncut harness]

wut

so, are anomalies something like humans

[sacred solar]

there an actual disgusting entry in the game about whats goin on inside the suit lol

umm... i dont know if theres a consensus on what the "race" of anomalies are

[uncut harness]

tell me lol

[sacred solar]

i dont remember exactly but they talk about all sort of sores and stuff, skin fused to the suit or something, because they havent taken it off for so long

[uncut harness]

are you taking about korvax or anomalies

[sacred solar]

anomalies

korvax are like, nanite water balloons or something

[dreamy oracle]

is there a cheat sheet for expedition 3 scannables?

I have IIRC 1 plant and 1 mineral left

just looking to know where to look

......never mind. a quick stroll down to the lake and I've got it all

[dreamy oracle]

wait. the ultimate reward for Expedition 3 is.....WHAT?

okay. I need this in my life

do.....other saves get it through Nexus once you clear the expedition?

[urban island]

The depth of the story blew my mind. I just started this for the first time last week and got up to the reset before my game crashed without saving it.

First reaction:

Oh cute little frog looking Yoda guys. Ignore ignore ignore.

Oh, robot dudes. Okay so they’re like communist robots. Got it.

Oh lizard people. Yeah they seem like jerks but are usually nice enough.

Wait. The dialogue is a little odd. Lemme start paying more attention.

Okay…. Wtf. These overseer remarks are odd. I finish up the different people on the stations and that dialogue was my first hint stuff is a lot weirded than it seems.

Wait… the frog guys used to be warlords? And then the robot guys just mind controlled all their babies and that’s they they are cool now?

I. Love. The layers.

[mighty rampart]

there's a ton of layers as you start paying attention to random logs

[pallid stump]

Oh look, the Overseer's being creepy again.

It honestly surprised me how dark the story gets at times.

[uncut harness]

@empty cedar I have 3/16 glyphs do I have to do that method to get all the glyphs?

[empty cedar]

If you're really sure you want to shortcut it, yeah

[uncut harness]

Okay

Shame that's the only way to get Living ship in expedition save

[craggy spire]

The Overseer is depressing, and the Scientist wants to scan you whilst you sleep, according to when you hire them

[fringe notch]

I have no doubt the overseer is a first gek

Secret sneaky bastard

[sacred solar]

i dont trust that gek at all, the worst

[pallid stump]

After completing their questline, I just feel bad for the scientist honestly.

[fringe notch]

It actually had a impact on my korvax travelers outlook on his settlement

He realized how much of a void being without a convergence could cause

Not to mention, the void all races face in that universe

[cyan mauve]

@uncut harness did you get to the end of the storyline yet? 😄

[uncut harness]

I quit played nms for now it kinda got boring i just ended up running in circles on the game ill start back at the weekend xd

srrry for the cliff hanger

[cyan mauve]

no worries, just checking.

[latent cloud]

I gave Apollo the glyphs

perhaps that wasn’t a good idea

[prime inlet]

@uncut harness if you choose to reset, you will be given the choice to spawn in a galaxy type, corresponding to the color of the orb you choose. if you reject, you will stay in your current galaxy (but would still be able to change galaxies via other means, if you decide to do so later on)

[uncut harness]

So it's better to reset simulation

Will I start from beggining or

[ember pelican]

it breaks all of your multitool tech stuff, your exosuit techstuff, and your flagship tech

iirc

[uncut harness]

Will I lose items?

I can repair, it's not a big deal

[ember pelican]

no

you won't

iirc

check wiki

[sacred solar]

nothing is lost, including progress. you can teleport back to other galaxies. your equipment just gets damaged

[arctic solstice]

if you reset can you go back to the euclid galaxy?

[dapper holly]

Yes, if you have a base computer there

Make sure you keep at least one bc in each galaxy you want to return to

[uncut harness]

That’s as sad saying bye to Apollo

[upbeat nest]

I just got to Eissentam. Do I need to build a base computer before going back to Euclid? I'm on the Anomaly.

[sacred solar]

that would be best, yes

[cyan mauve]

@left flare the decision wrt artemis doesnt really matter for the rest of the game. as in, it changes some dialog situations later, but nothing really content-wise.

@left flare i would like to know why you decided to kill them though. 😄

[left flare]

1st sorry for spoiling ( eventualy )

and ...

well

i dont know

i followed emotions XD

[cyan mauve]

thats fine.

[left flare]

thats why i FREED his soul

what was your choice ?

[cyan mauve]

i tend to upload (and if you do that, you later have to decide whether to lie to them about it, or tell them the truth) and truth.

because from my pov its not my call to make, so i do my best to give them the option to decide on their own.

[left flare]

that sounds like the best desicion ngl

[cyan mauve]

not having a strong reason for the decision gets you off the hook for me messing with your brain about it. 😄

[latent field]

any one have a base on meetingpoint 2 in expediton?

[cyan mauve]

way too many people do, yes.

[latent field]

tnx, already got it

[latent cloud]

I… don’t know what to think

The game wants me to reach the centre of the galaxy

man

That’s a lot of lore

And I don’t want all my stuff to break :<

[uncut harness]

question

wtf is the system override key you get at the end of the expedition

i havent tested it yet but im intrigued

[icy citrus]

Don't use it, it isn't functioning

[uncut harness]

damn

[icy citrus]

And you don't need to hide spoilers here, but good on you for being thoughtful

[uncut harness]

ok cool

good thing i asked

[frigid vault]

is it true that at the end of the story you can make your own star system

[icy citrus]

No

[sullen hornet]

Maybe the station override will eventually open a door that gets added in the Halloween update, allowing passage to some sort of spooky section you have to clear out

It still fascinates me that they would add an item that has no function

Only to tease you and further delay the purpose

Its gotta be something kinda interesting at least

[pallid stump]

Seems the Korvax weren't the first to come up with some form of soul transference.

[fringe notch]

So this is a blast

I finally worked out the age of the simulation roughly

Good lord, its been running, in simulated time for a nearly immeasurable period of time.

As for Echoes, its not surprising others tried

When the World Mind died and Atlantid died, the attendants of the world, the first born of the first sentient machines that would become the korvax had to try a very long time to self replicate.

From what I gather, they failed to do a full replication of the Atlantid.

However, eventually they came up with a convergence system, similar to the bound souls with the world mind and atlantid and so began the first korvax

that was quite some time before the gek destroyed korvax prime.

19 seconds from the end of simulation, we being at 16

each second being a VERY long time.

That makes the korvax hundreds of millions of years old, the korvax of euclid being a offshoot of another galaxy

LOL loving this lore so much

[pallid stump]

From what I read from this terminal, this race not only tried but succeeded. However, it was only utilized by the upper class to cheat death (which makes me think this could be a First Spawn machination) while the lower class had to tend to them.

The ship I found was basically a massive funeral barge for an eons-old forgotten race.

[fringe notch]

Not surprising with a simulation as old as this

[meager stag]

Any 🪱 theories?

[severe sun]

fishing update, imo

[uncut harness]

sean’s just excited for dune

[gloomy isle]

Either fishing or Halloween I bet

[barren trench]

Currently doing The Purge mission and I chose the Final Interface option and I heard the atlas will ask if I want to reset the simulation or refuse the atlas, does resetting the simulation wipe all my progress and start me fresh?

[grizzled apex]

Space Worms I can fly around on or Nothin

[mental socket]

this

[uncut harness]

Cooking update?

Worms represent pasta?

[icy citrus]

🍝

I'm in

[uncut harness]

Did beyond modify planets?

Or the yoke with the 🍊

That kinda looks like a planet

[icy citrus]

Oranges = Origins

[sacred solar]

if spaghetti sandwiches dont get added i swear to god

[sullen hornet]

Spaghetti sandwich sounds fire rn

[knotty mountain]

Heh? What's this 🪱 the kids are talkin about these days?

But for real though, probably something to do with underground fauna and/or terrain generation and/or underground bases

*is my guess

I've been away for a little while now but if I remember correctly there was a whole bunch of updates to proc gen for buildings and biomes and flora in the background of more recent updates, I don't know if there's been any more info on that recently or not

[quasi hazel]

I'm hoping that its symbolic of "worm holes" hopefully revealing either a new enemy or a new dimension maybe, I seen this in a theory video and it got me realy excited! In reality tho it's probably more likely to be either what you said with terrain or fishing, which are some great additions that would add a lot to the atmosphere, but I'm hoping for some more challenging end game/long term content

[knotty mountain]

That's certainly been heavily speculated upon for quite some time now, I think the big things requested with that are like you said with wormholes with some sort of enemy faction and some more lore and combat (and hopefully some more cooperative elements to give multiplayer a little more purpose) and maybe like a dark dimension or alternate universe or something

I love how the speculation for this next update is either "big massive game changing updates/improvements" or "catch fish" lol

[quasi hazel]

Lmfaoo seriously! Hopefully if it is fishing than they'll add more for underwater creatures, but honestly like you said, lore and more cooperative missions are what I've been wanting for a while, loved the lore while playing through the game and it's one of the few games that kept me hooked all the way through the storyline and got me attached to the characters, combat would be really really dope too but I understand that a lot of the playerbase isnt into combat as much as exploration. Regardless I just hope that it's something that we can put time into to keep us entertained until the next update

[knotty mountain]

Yeah my big pitch/request personally for a long while now (though I understand it's most likely a long way off if at all possible) would be an in game profile system where you have to log in when you load the game and would allow people to have a player profile and a friends list and whatnot where you could see more info about people like what multi tools and starships they have and how many inventory slots they have unlocked and whatnot, this would also allow for a trading system where you could offer trade requests and actually agree or decline transactions instead of being forced to accept what people throw at you, and would also allow people to trade with people in their friends list without being in close proximity to them, also an in game profile system invites the possibility of cross save between platforms which would be rad

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk lol

There are many more possibilities with this along the lines of in game civs and stuff but I didn't want to make the message too long

[quasi hazel]

Thatd be pretty cool actually, the multiplayer trading system is definitely one thing that could use work, especially because of how huge the potential is there with just that addition, trading becomes a lot more interesting, I think once they refine and polish the multiplayer some more, this game will be on a whole new level

[knotty mountain]

Oh yeah, my thoughts exactly, my biggest gripe with multiplayer is just that there's nothing cooperative to do, I usually run nexus missions by myself because the only thing that makes them "co-op" missions is usually just that it takes less time, everyone still has to go out and do their own thing until the objective is complete, except for the base building mission which is straight up garbage (which is sad because it has a lot of potential) outside of Nexus missions people are just kinda doing their own thing in the same area

[mental socket]

I agree that trading could use some work. Current mp trading is basically
"Everyone is your trash dump"

[knotty mountain]

So true

[mighty rampart]

but I seriously doubt they'll drop a big update less than 2 months after Frontiers so I'm very much leaning on it being a smaller content update like Companions

[uncut harness]

It think it's a bug update

It will introduce bugs

As in, small insects, not glitches, there will be plenty of those too though.

[mighty rampart]

weird for an insect update to have a worm emoji

[quasi hazel]

Insect update would be one of the most underwhelming things

[mighty rampart]

weird statement to make

[uncut harness]

Maybe they are going with a Dune tribute like they did with ME with Normandy?

Worms were first shown on a Dune like planet

They could drop expedition #4 on such a planet and they wouldnt need to push a big update for that

[mighty rampart]

flying worm pet as reward for next expedition

[uncut harness]

Just my idea

[mighty rampart]

yeah I am really doubting they're already ready to drop a big content update, I'm assuming its the next expedition or a smaller content update like Companions

[uncut harness]

Yeah they were working their asses off past Frontier release with all the patches

[mighty rampart]

oh those can be different teams, that's not the point

[uncut harness]

Fair enough

[celest bluff]

I want to see something to make it easy to make use of planetary coordinates. The only reliable way to mark a portal on my base planet was to build a tiny base outside the 300u exclusion zone.

I want to be able to say "Waypoint at -52.93, -112.21" and not be like "ok, I need to fly southwest, go to low orbit for a bit, and then drop back down below 2000u so I can see coordinates again."

There's irony in having a cartographer's expedition when there's no useful maps at the planetary level.

[sacred solar]

clearest frame i could get from the teaser thing, no intel that i can see

[tame grotto]

looks like f'ed up planet to me

someone shot it up

[severe sun]

it's just the video glitching

a few frames on you see the bottom half of the planet closer to the centre of the screen, intact

I don't think there's anything hidden in the trailer. When desolation released, they published a clip just like this which was a 5 second segment of the trailer.

I'd go find it but sean tweets like a madman

[sullen hornet]

Desolation Part 2

Isolation

[glass flare]

anyone analyze the audio yet?

[severe sun]

I listened to it, does that count?

[glass flare]

only if you're an android

[halcyon pebble]

I was looking at a frame at like 1-2 seconds in and it looks like it says "Its Rising"

Idk if anyone can interpret that

[severe sun]

it says NO_SIGNAL

[halcyon pebble]

ah ty

still interesting

[severe sun]

it's just stock video 🙂

[halcyon pebble]

lmao

[severe sun]

was used in the desolation trailer

[halcyon pebble]

ahhh

I wonder what it is

very interesting

[severe sun]

I looked to find the video it comes from but it's been taken down

used to be at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn20VyoLLnQ

[halcyon pebble]

ah I see

I wonder what this update is gonna be

also how large it is gonna be it could be 4.0 but I highly doubt it

[tame grotto]

shows "private" for me. and are links also not expanding in this channel? wth 🧐

[severe sun]

I think it's gonna be very similar to desolation. maybe expanding on the content, maybe some underground procedural dungeons?

[halcyon pebble]

That would be amazing

I would love dungeons

It would really expand on exploration

[uncut harness]

People think it’s a lore hint again when it’s just stock

Quit playing with my emotions

To me this might be a segment right before the ship summons in something, just like how we summon in the anomaly or freighters

But that’s just a guess from 5 seconds of stock overlayed footage

[crisp fern]

instead of/alongside slightly polishing freighter basebuilding they just toss in space basebuilding because i dunno people keep requesting it which means it must be a great idea i guess /s

[keen zinc]

please more endgame content im beggin for it

[crisp fern]

i thought it was all endgame

[crisp fern]

is this what you spotted @indigo smelt?

[indigo smelt]

No, different frame I think.

Its distorted like usual, but this one comes later in the teaser.

This word is clearly longer.

You may have to edit it to get a better view.

Its around 0:03.

[mighty rampart]

https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/1283411308608618496

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twitter advanced search to the rescue 👍

[snow stream]

I wouldn't put it past them to maybe do a big content update
The impression I've got over the past few years is that they have two teams for NMS
one who does smaller stuff every few months and fixes bugs, and another that focuses on something bigger in the background
I obviously can't prove that for certain but, certainly feels that way

[crisp fern]

mm, i think that may be test_signal. We ripped through the glitch effect pretty thoroughly back when Desolation was being teased, & I think that may have been one of the other words in the glitch effects

[glass flare]

this feels to me like Desolations scale. I said before that the big enchilada update won't come until next year and I'm sticking to that. otherwise Sean would be hyping it in more vague terms.

honestly I wish this was a teaser to another season of Waking Titan

if you're going to show glitched video on the internet, it better be a puzzle dammit

[buoyant hemlock]

Let's not forget Origins dropped in October... granted, with more fanfare ... but this is starting to feel a bit more like Desolation as a few people have already said

[uncut harness]

working on it, specifically, comparing it to the dune ost because those strings are pretty fucking prevalent in the dune ost

i'm like 90% sure it's gonna be a crossover

[glass flare]

oh no

[uncut harness]

it's certainly an out of place sound, nothing on the nms ost uses instruments like that

but i am too tired to listen to the entire dune ost with the twitter audio looping in the background

[mighty rampart]

it still feels too early for me since they consider Frontiers to be a big update, trying to already surpass it feels weird but yeah there's no telling what HG will do

its like if they dropped Beyond and then a month later dropping Origins

[quasi hazel]

Ion see it being a big update tbh, I mean I hope but just doesnt seem likely

[mighty rampart]

that's why I feel this is likely exped 4

which probably involves derelicts and wormholes (black holes or relic gates)

[crisp fern]

...oh yeah, i keep forgetting expeditions

[mighty rampart]

exped 2 dropped almost immediately after exped 1 end

so I wouldnt put it past them for doing next expedition already

[crisp fern]

expedition 4 but it's just hitting up some worm-riddled planets & doing some stuff

[uncut harness]

i'd imagine that is the case

worm planet, dune-crossover reward

[mighty rampart]

I sure hope not

[uncut harness]

the audio doesn't translate into any image through spectrogram, i'm sure now

it makes a weird spectrogram, since it's weird audio of course

[void ermine]

ooh expedition 4 would be great! 😸

[crisp fern]

now that i've been reminded of expeditions i'm just expecting maybe some small update & new expedition

[void ermine]

i wonder what the rewards will be. halloween themed would be fun!

[crisp fern]

that would make sense tbh

[mighty rampart]

yeah I'm expecting spoopy stuff too

[rancid ether]

hmm...
sean be trollin real hard

the images in the vid are just spongebob clips glitched to hell lmao

[uncut harness]

i predict: minor content update, expedition 4, dune crossover, spooky worm monsters or some shit, releasing some time between the 22nd and 31st of october, going to get more little each day until the 22nd, or if it's on the 31st it'll be sporadic trailer things

[snow stream]

I think that's kinda the fun of HG and NMS, is that for all our speculation, all our hype and wants and desires, we pretty generally have absolutely no fuckin idea what the hell they're gonna do, so every new update is a surprise

[crisp fern]

give or take, anyway. can't always nail the specifics but we can predict broad strokes

[indigo smelt]

I'm thinking wormholes.

Can't say its a trip to the void yet.

[sand rapids]

I believe we are witnessing a catastrophic step in the degradation of the Atlas. It’s timer has begun to run short and possibly the cause of its demise is a virus, hence the worm and “no_signal” in the teaser. I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up being 16//16//15

Of course it’s all speculation but that’s what seems the most logical step from the clues provided.

[uncut harness]

Gumsk actually found space building stuff in the files a few months ago iirc

[mental socket]

spacebase stuff has been referenced in some files for a few years already

[south shadow]

Update is out

[uncut harness]

I'm at work

[mighty rampart]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/qbwx23/does_anyone_know_what_this_thing_is_i/

[worn warren]

Just a race pod

[mighty rampart]

doesnt look like the usual salvageable scrap item

oh race pod

thanks

[strange mountain]

@mental socket

[mental socket]

thanks

[ocean wyvern]

I see

[tulip salmon]

"flesh launcher"

[ocean wyvern]

I kinda wish they hadn't made Sandworms pets

[dapper holly]

Titanic Spawn 👀

[ocean wyvern]

That's gonna get old on the anomaly

[uncut harness]

Sandworm egg

[buoyant hemlock]

Like it's not already with the mods?

[crisp fern]

so we may not have been too far off about the sandworm expedition associaton 😅

[dapper holly]

Hopefully they get shrunk down a lot there

[ocean wyvern]

Now its official tho

So more than just PC ppl

[buoyant hemlock]

They could lower the temperature, I guess? 🤔

[dapper holly]

Please be more pet slots too 🙏

[ocean wyvern]

I will def gauge the milestones early for this one lol

[crisp fern]

not too fond of seeing skull in here, 'cause i've wanted that as something you can get from digging up the fossils but 🤷

[ocean wyvern]

It took a lot to get going on Cartographers personally

[crisp fern]

they're really intent on stuffing a lot of cosmetic decorations that i'd prefer you being able to get from exploration in the QS shop which is disheartening

[wind panther]

The anomaly has a size cap on pets...for the most part

[south shadow]

When they release new expeditions is it always the expedition by itself or is there more content that comes with it?

[mental socket]

usually some little tweaks and qol

[wind panther]

We're only just now on expedition 4, so hard to derive a pattern

[mental socket]

Well expd2 had just tweaks

expd 1 and 3 came with content updates

[south shadow]

Is 9 gigs big for an expedition update?

[wind panther]

Size is not correlative to content with NMS, unfortunately

[mental socket]

This might come with a Exo mech sized content update, given there apparently is a trailer

[trim dune]

size doesn't matter

[mental socket]

I'm speaking of size of content, not the file size

[mighty rampart]

damn its literally worm pet as one of the rewards

[buoyant hemlock]

• cough *

[crisp fern]

albeit admittedly these are expedition rewards instead of plain ol' QS grind, so there's that, but they're not being clear about when/if they'll ever put these expeditions into a rotation to rerun at some later point...

[south shadow]

I wish that was true outside of nms

[mighty rampart]

wonder if this means we could finally tame flying creatures too

[wind panther]

Probably not

We can't tame horrors

[mighty rampart]

heck

fair point

[mighty rampart]

gonna guess it'll be a 2 week expedition

[agile jay]

Guess this is our 🪱

[mighty rampart]

cursed and insatiable

[fathom notch]

WORM HELMET WORM HELMET

[crisp fern]

Hmm, is that a new model, or a variant I've just not seen?

[mighty rampart]

I've never seen it too

[wind panther]

The worm or the helmet? Helmet is definitely new, can't say that I've seen the worm

[mighty rampart]

not with that many segmentation

[agile jay]

The expedition will be called Emergence

[crisp fern]

The ones I have seen have typically been repurposed flying eels/snakes as I recall

[fathom notch]

cursed and insatiable!

[wind panther]

Sadly, doesn't seem like it will tie into or lead into any actual game lore

[fathom notch]

wormlore wormlore

[agile jay]

I think the 🪱 was just a teaser for this expedition, which is worm or ‘Emergence’ themed I guess

[south shadow]

Do you think this confirms frontiers was that "big" update for the year

[wind panther]

That is an ugly-ass helmet, but I'm sure some people will like it

Neither is a big update, based on their own numbering

[fathom notch]

i just realised
that vid that sean posted with the ship

erm

are we gonna...? is this gonna be a space worm?

[ocean wyvern]

Its just a fun thing I think

[wind panther]

The pictures on the banner are coming out of ground

[agile jay]

Yeah I think they’re just making sand worms more accessible and able to be pets I guess

[ocean wyvern]

Roarinflames said that the images were all from spongebob; dunno if that was a joke

[agile jay]

Just a small fun lil update

[hybrid pendant]

lol

little heart

aww cute

[fathom notch]

worm cult worm cult worm cult

[ocean wyvern]

The static stuff

[wind panther]

There must be something space related though, since there is a scene in space in the trailer

[ocean wyvern]

Wouldn't be much of a Sandworm in space

[fathom notch]

i will not speculate further

but i am tempted by the fragmentary evidence

[crisp fern]

Given the skull I get the sense maybe they'll have you examine one of the giant skull space encounters maybe

[mighty rampart]

probably a joke, the main desolations trailer used its own images for the distortion effect

[crisp fern]

and by examine i mean mainly just...encounter. Tho maybe they'll add some unique interaction with some descriptive text? 🤷

[gloomy isle]

So it's just an expedition?

[wind panther]

We don't know

[gloomy isle]

Ah fair

I'll check back in later when we know more

[crisp fern]

Still awaiting notes drop & such

[uncut harness]

Waiting for the patch notes emergence

[round verge]

I see what you did there

[mighty rampart]

proabably so, along with some changes maybe

doubt its a content update

[south shadow]

Do you guys remember how many gigs was frontiers?

[subtle gorge]

the physical size doesn't really matter tbh

Exo Mech was 4 gigs , and it added fuck all

[icy citrus]

Added a mech

[south shadow]

LMAO 😭

[icy citrus]

[gloomy isle]

I mean

It's a high res wrom

Worm

And worm helmet

[elfin meteor]

Could be a parasite

[south shadow]

Hopefully we can now have a reason to use the mech 🤷‍♂️

[icy citrus]

It's free content, other devs would charge you 19.99 for the worm

Be happy

[mighty rampart]

bro 3.68 was 7gb on Steam

[grizzled apex]

Worm Murder? 👀

[south shadow]

That would be cool

[elfin meteor]

Facts

[mighty rampart]

also I think 3.6 itself was just 4ish GB

[mighty rampart]

I've never even used the spoggers helmet

[grizzled apex]

Yeaa 3.68 was nothing but shader header changes and that amounted 7 gigs

[mighty rampart]

yeah that's why going by update size means nothing

[subtle gorge]

wasn't origins also like

2 gigs?

i remember Origins not being big whatsoever

[elfin meteor]

Also, has anyone noticed an increase of appearances of the giant worms on planets? My old world I would see it maybe once per rotation, now it pops up ever minute or so somewhere near my settlement

[ocean wyvern]

The file size is irrelevant

All veteran players should know this

[buoyant hemlock]

Please pin this post. Thank you. 🙏

[subtle gorge]

yes someone asked so we just brought it up lol

[ocean wyvern]

Yeah and I explained

[icy citrus]

Lol, for the 10 people who check pins

They already know

[mighty rampart]

1.4GB on steam

[buoyant hemlock]

j/k ofc

[spice urchin]

So is it official Dune collab or just thematic Halloween update?

[mighty rampart]

also we already have a green jetpack trail, right?

[twilit ocean]

Alright so what is happening

[mighty rampart]

I guess this is a different green with some gross particle effects

[twilit ocean]

I swear they get me every time

[mighty rampart]

latter

I see nothing relating to Dune

[wind panther]

You shouldn't see a new worm more frequently than every five minutes

[ocean wyvern]

I guess theoretically the worm is dunelike?

[mighty rampart]

it's just them celebrating sandworms

[wind panther]

Though the same worm will make a number of jumps that might make it seem like you're getting a new worm

[gloomy isle]

Kinda glad it's not fishing lol

[spice urchin]

how convenient

[ocean wyvern]

Seeing as its a pet and you'll therefore ride it

[wind panther]

We don't have patch notes yet, it might be fishing, too!

[subtle gorge]

the only thing dune related is the sandworms

[ocean wyvern]

Its also a dune reference

[subtle gorge]

that too

[mighty rampart]

and there's more "ghastly" stuff as rewards

[buoyant hemlock]

Worm. Phishing. It all makes sense now.

[mighty rampart]

so its a halloween thing

[subtle gorge]

Like half of this is very much Hello Games being a bunch of fucking nerds

[twilit ocean]

So is it just seeing the basic worms every certain period of time?

[wide fossil]

Prolly planned to just time it with the release of Dune this week

[twilit ocean]

Or is there something I can do atm

Asking before I force my friend on nms again

lol

[prime inlet]

someone check station core unit 😉

[twilit ocean]

im still gonna scare the shit out of him either way

Okay

[mighty rampart]

sandworm head is in the vykeen section, weird

[grizzled apex]

Its a vyken worm cult apparently 👀

[twilit ocean]

Wait what

[mighty rampart]

read the description

[twilit ocean]

Curiouser and curiouser

[elfin meteor]

Well now I have to log on for a bit, might as well hand out some stasis devices while I'm at it

[twilit ocean]

Only stasis devices? what about starship ai valves

[elfin meteor]

My settlement gives me roughly 52 stasis devices a day, so I just take them and give them away lol

[twilit ocean]

Fair enough

Make sure to give people a chance to return them or pass them on

Some don’t like suddenly having riches outa nowhere

[elfin meteor]

Normally I exchange them for jokes, the better the joke, the more I pay

[twilit ocean]

HAHA

I love that

My internet goes out for 5 hours and I come back to NMS update

What a twist

[elfin meteor]

No update for me unless I already downloaded it without knowing

[wind panther]

Steam doesn't have it yet

[twilit ocean]

I think it’s only on ps5 rn

[grizzled apex]

PS/XB

[twilit ocean]

Oh okay

so console was just faster

[grizzled apex]

Payback for Steam getting Frontiers Early

[twilit ocean]

I think it’s reasons like this they release patch notes after

[grizzled apex]

They like seeing us go to shit trying to figure out ourselves

Ill be honest....
I LOVE IT

[twilit ocean]

Same

••• Loading

“Holy shit there’s an update?”

[grizzled apex]

Steam got it?

Heard someone say it dropped, lemme see...

Yep

Steam Public

[wind panther]

I'm curious about the new jetpack trail flavor text that worms may infect local biomes

[grizzled apex]

Worm time bois

[wind panther]

file browsing time!

[grizzled apex]

Expedition 5: The Infection
Caused by the dumbasses who didnt read the warning

[wind panther]

5.1gb on steam

[grizzled apex]

Looks interesting, cant wait for Lo2K's diffs

[twilit ocean]

I still have my override item from my expedition

[grizzled apex]

Poor Monkeyman

[twilit ocean]

ill try using it now

for the sake of science

and also cause this save means nothing to me compared to my 400 hour save