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Sample size of 4. But it seems like first settlement claimers don't have the option to warp from the terminus.
Seems fairly frequent but not constant
Yeah I was surprised too!
Do Settlements improve in class over time like Frigates?
Yes
When you say 350u away for base computer do you count from the settlement hub or from the administration terminal?
i counted from the admin terminal at 400u, but weasel tested it at 350ish u from the admin terminal
Oops Idk why I replied to something totally unrelated with that question but ty for answering hehe
Distance limits in nms are kinda wierd anyways
Btw i wonder if later game buildings allow you to reverse the bad "features" that come out of the box
Like localised quicksand (which seems to be a common one)
I have conflicting ones that balance out
Cheers!
@tawdry mica i can confirm this has now worked for me
Like one gives a + and one a - to manufacture
Ah true
I wonder if its a fixed value (they would balance), a random value, or a set thing like, all positives give plus 50% all negatives give - 25%

I tried leaving a system and coming back, settlement was still there. Tried another chart, it ate my chart and didn’t give a new one. Safe to say there’s only one here.
Unfortunately it’s in an aesthetically bad place on a planet I love so gotta find another
Charts are buggy at the moment.
I don’t know if it’s a bug or there’s only one settlement in the planet
and they supposedly fixed them dissapearing when finding nothing in prisms
ig they forgot to implement that for the settlement ones
i wonder when theyll launch exp3
my bet is they didnt release it along with the update because of the bugs
Soon™️
its prolly coming after that patch hits public
the patch that allegedly breaks saving so uhhhhh
might take a while
Is there a way to build a portal in the settlement?
i think you mean teleporter
Yea that
you can build a base right outside the limit (about 400u from admin terminal)
Right ok ty
and then expand the range by placing parts at the edge of it
so you can get parts within the settlement
Nice that is a good idea. I will do that today
i plan to build some roads at mine
Ok Peoples
We are going to spoilers here
If it isn't a spoiler for the game, use #no-mans-sky
Anyone having some issues having your settlement in the same system as an existing base? I’m getting massive stuttering and crashes during saves, had saves corrupted 3 times. PS4
To be clear I’m not sure the base/settlement proximity is the issue, just wondering what is the common thread if anyone is having a similar experience.
Do the timers still go when NMS is closed?
anyone know why i respawned back at the center of the new galaxy?
is there multiple endings?
im very confused as to even what my choice was
i ended up resetting the simulation
even though my original thought was that id be warping into the center of the galaxy
So what's the deal with the space station and the station override?
Trying to find out a mission which I think was on the atlas, you would select a sort of colored mini star that sent you to another galaxy. Just remember green being Eissentam
What’s the timegating between builds in the new update?
Not the 46 mins, but like to start a new building
We're moving this channel back to spoiler-related content only, so please refer any questions about the game to #nms-questions and/or #no-mans-sky.
Ah I thought this was kind of a spoiler I apologise, I’ll take my question elsewhere
No problem
Enjoy the update.
Was just told to keep it here cause I’m guessing it’s a major point in a mission
NMS settlements still have a bunch of bugs here and there. Because debt barely decreased when I opened up the game again.
Instead of an 8h timer, I got a 21ish hour timer.
someone else stuck with just one building and 3 encounters? I don't get anything new since yesterday 😦
Or should I try and look for a new settlement, since this one may be bugged?
whops sorry
So I've never been entirely clear on something, and need a lore expert to clear it up. So we know there are 255 galaxies in NMS. Do these galaxies coexist in a single large simulation where they all exist concurrently though distant from each other, or are they just separate probability variations on a single galaxy, each new one the result of a reset of the previous one?
have any of the data miners figured out the frequency of settlement events?
Do you think this could mix well? I was hoping the wood could be something a bit more cozy while the alloy could go for more industrial buildings.
This is spoilers now
Sorry, I thought building parts were considered a spoiler.
Nope, all open
This update does not contain any other lore spoilers either, so feel free to post in main
I think what is and isn't a spoiler could use a little clarification. Though it can be subjective.
Should I delete the post?
Post is fine, Spoilers are things that are only revealed in game quests - such as resetting the galaxy with the Artemis path. Now, when a large update hits we divert information about that here as well, so everyone has a day or so to get the new content without knowing what it entails
So, going to the core to switch galaxies isnt a spoiler - as the game never explains that to you and it isn't part of a quest to do.
But finishing the Artemis path to switch is
Seems a little arbitrary, but I won't argue.
Nobody? Any opinions at least as to the nature of the universe?
Not a spoiler, proceed to help or main channel
Personally I think they used to be iterations of the same galaxy
But now with the ease of traveling them, I'm not as sure
I believe each is the result of the previous one being reset, rather than coexisting
We can only travel back and forth due to the walls of the simulation breaking down
So each is a seperate simulation created by the reset of the previous one
Idk where to post this but I suspect it could be a spoiler but I wanna ask. Look through some of this, are are these comments people playing the experimental? One specifically requested a fix for 2nd settlement.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/3044984779763588501/?ctp=2
Hello Everyone, First of all, thanks so much to everyone who has already spent time playing No Man's Sky and letting us know about any issues you've experienced. Steam users are able to opt-in to the Experimental Branch, where we have pushed a patch to address some problems. We'll be rolling out these fixes to other platforms as soon as possible...
how often do new settlement decisions come through?
Not sure, was waiting for one and it just said to talk to the citizens
So like, with the "Space anomoly" and "new beginnings" missions, without any spoilers, do those just exist forever? Can you actually complete them? lol
They exist forever
upcoming twitch reward 👀
Can't dig around a lot of files toll MBINC updates so I thought I'd check out the Textures and stuff
Not sure if these were already documented or not, just went in blind lol
These appear new though, haven't done a comparison yet
good looking monochrome ship as well
Regarding the bytebeat cassette: Prisms added a description for it in LOC6. I'll go back after and try to paste that here too
ah so these are the items that were in the catalogue as silhouettes
about time we got expedition patches as usable decals
where did you find this one?
oh....expedition 2?
Does anybody know if there are workarounds to the timers at settlements or do we have to wait through em?
upcoming twitch rewards, not expeditions, i edited some files lol
I’m assuming it’s going to be a sound player that can be played anywhere on foot?
Like the one in the ship?
you can already do that so I don't think that's the case
it could be an item that HG could hand out as twitch/exped rewards that will then add the song to your library
Im pretty sure it's exclusive music
since you can already share bytebeat music to others
yeah
The posters and a lot of the flags on the settlements are QS items too
whatever it is its not in the twitch rewards or expedition 3 list
I'll check LOC6 tomorrow again
And get the exact description
As soon as MBINC is fully updated, I'll try to get the item in game
Oh gotcha
upcoming twitch stuff is 5 pet eggs, 5 ships, and then just some quicksilver shop stuff
I originally thoust that song sharing would use these cassettes when I came across those lines in Prisms
Pets above are the twitch pets
The 5 ship patches seem to be from when you fix the ship in exped 3?
Thanks for a lot for linking that!
yeah apparently fixing your ship in exped 3 will be more involved
The patch.gift is something odd. It has a different style...
wouldn't surprise me if phase 1 is all about that
The new rewards ONLY mention escaping the planet
So.... I'm kind of confused...
"Repair the ship's <TECHNOLOGY>Waveform Engine<> to restore primary thrust systems. Find the part in the ship inventory (<IMG>INVENTORY<>). Use <IMG>TECHMENU<> to pin detailed <STELLAR>repair instructions<>. Several advanced materials may be required in order to successfully complete the repair. User is advised to complete <EXPED>Expedition Milestones<> to earn new materials and crafting blueprints."
sounds like u'll need stuff from milestones to do the repairs
Ahh so that's why you'll be on one planet for long
Completing milestones from other tasks to fix the ship
hmmm
I thought they figured out how to make customs planets or something 
Autodiagnostics reports unregistered starship customisations... standard repair procedures: <FUEL>inadequate<>. Custom repair sequence registered to pilot's Exosuit expedition log.
missions seem to be repair the 4 things then leave planet, and that's it
to earn new materials and crafting blueprints
huh interesting, wonder if its expedition only blueprints or repurposes current blueprint tech to function differently
Damn that's kind of.... Underwhelming honestly
If it's expedition exclusive then that's interesting... I hope HG uses that for some other thing too then
I still think its cool, you cant just immediately leave the starter planet in a few seconds and makes you explore the first planet along with other players
The Historiographical Dosimeter icon just seemed like an odd one to use. I thought they were pointing to soemthing with that
I think they're reusing the icon there
WTF
like the other icons
Yea they are
But that one specifically was sort of wierd
Like we got it in other saves
As an expedition reward
ah true that
That and the myth beacon as a Qs thing
But they do literally nothing
So I thought maybe that icon reuse was something carefully planned
Ah is the seasonal data decompilable now? Was MBINC updated?
Story mission do this to you?
yeah
I like that they updated this sequence
Previously you'd just fall which didn't make sense
Now you swim which makes a bit more sense, atleast for the time that you're out there
does the dupe glitch still work
https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/suites/3654598591/artifacts/88728632 and if that doesnt work https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/actions/runs/1190686294 while logged in and click MBINCompiler at the bottom
Oh alright thanks. I got that artifact version but didn't see the other one
Monkeyman released a nightly build though so let me check that too
Seems like there more changed in the backgroud that we think
This was just the start of dinner
Do we have any news on what these 100.000+ changes are about? Is this all about the current update?
My 12 hour old settlement is still losing 170k units a day. I just stared the next build project which looks like it will take 12 hours and get to a 135k loss per day? I'm going to be millions in the hole before it ever even starts to no longer be a loss and crawl out of that hole. Is this expected?
So everything about frontiers is no longer a spoiler? I wanted to be careful if people hadn't gotten far enough with their settlements or whatever. I can take this kind of discussion to the main channels but I would have thought new content being explored would be spoilers for many. No prob.
Once the patch notes and trailer hits, if there arent unique rewards such as the Normandy, it isnt a spoiler
That’s a pretty lax definition of spoiler, good to know for the future so I don’t get experiences ruined
Speaking of this specific instance
Look at the channel description
Should be clear enough
Hey does anyone know what settlement expeditions give?
It's totally up to RNGesus.
People have gotten to B and even S class with debt as I've seen, and I've managed to clear my (relatively low 80k) debt after a single factory
I’ve only lost settlers on mine
but I’m on a super harsh winter world
Hey, so - due to a bug I built two buildings early in the Settlement tutorial thing. I need to feed it one more thing then the second one (the "real" one part of the tutorial) will be done. Not sure what lies ahead.
What I'm wondering is...
Will it be obv when I can take a new Settlement of my choosing, leaving starter one behind, without missing out on something to be gained in the intro tutorial Settlement?
Like, is there an "ok, now take it from here" moment in that first Settlement run thru?
Lol my settlement is haunted
my citizens are all clones
How does one send expeditions? I haven't seen an option for that
settlement questions, since I'm waiting to play for a few hotfixes.
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Are settlements exclusively one-race, primarily one-race, or is there a sort of "random" option?
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Are there any Anomaly or Traveller NPCs that show up for them, or just the primary three?
If you use a settlement chart, is it not possible to find another settlement in the system where your starter settlement is located?
I looked at the map and nothing happened
there's a possibility of 0 settlements on a planet (or potentially on multiple I guess)
it's not ideal for sure and not sure why they allowed that
ooh, more questions on settlements.
Settlements possible on dead planets?
y'know, the low-gravity no-air ones
Nope settlements are only possible if there is Live on the planet
mildly disappointing but it makes sense at least
Expedition 3 Mission Names:
1-1 BROKEN_SHIP1
1-2 TERRAIN_EDITOR
1-3 STORM_SHELTER
1-4 BUILD_BASE
1-5 SIGNAL_BOOSTER
1-6 VISIT_ANY
1-7 WALKER
2-1 BROKEN_SHIP2
2-2 POWER_BASE
2-3 BUILD_TELEPORT
2-4 MOLEMAN
2-5 STORM_WALKER
2-6 GOT_PETS
2-7 BUILD_EXOCRAFT
3-1 BROKEN_SHIP3
3-2 BASIC_SCAN_MIN
3-3 BASIC_SCAN_PLA
3-4 ALL_CREATURES
3-5 DISC_WAYPOINT
3-6 HAZ_PLANTS
3-7 MINER
4-1 BROKEN_SHIP4
4-2 VISIT_OUTPOST
4-3 BUILD_TELEPORT2
4-4 EXO_DISTANCE
4-5 GOT_BURIED_PROP
4-6 MOUNTAIN_TOP
4-7 FALLING
4-8 GOT_FOSSILS
5-1 LEAVE_PLANET
5-2 ACROBAT
5-3 SPACE_STATION
5-4 PARTY_PLANET1
5-5 FIX_WARP
5-6 LEAVE_SYSTEM
5-7 PARTY_PLANET2
Looks like 4/5 of the phases are all on one planet and a lot of time intended in exocraft
party planet 🥳
y'all memed too hard with the Roamer stuff
Oh, you can view the rewards for the next expedition
Wonder what Moleman is lol
Is the seasonal table decompilable after the nightly MBINC update?
The SEASONTHREE file is, not sure about others
Oh okay, where is that one located?
I don't think that's the one I examined before.... Still new sorry 😅
Okay found that, thanks!
You don't, you'll get the prompt as a settlement request
Is that why it makes 5 gamma roots a day
That's
Way less than a single plant produces
60 times less
It's supposed to produce 300 a day
Don't tell me the ghosts steal 295 gamma root every day
Anyone got a list of available buildings at the settlement? So far I got an agricultural farm and a water tower.
Anyone else on ps4 crashing every few minutes 
so anyone else run into The Conqueror mini-adventure game at a gek archive building? Is there no way to advance past the Porwiggles becoming companions? It says, "Continue?" but offers no further options.
I'm guessing that's...The extent of it?
Oh yea, that's the end of that sadly.
We need an update to make them full stories
i want to play the full adventure game in my space game
i joke but at the same time, that's a whole gag in a point & click adventure game, lol
so, i guess the name cartographer, is probably because the expedition will be centered mostly around one planet then?
that.. would be chaos
Yeah, having everyone in one place is bound to cause issues
I doubt its one planet as it is just saying you need to explore more to repair your ship
The missions and new alternative tech hints at us being stuck there for a while
"travellers will need to thoroughly explore their starting world to escape the toxic atmosphere of planet Gisto Major."
Yes but not an entire expedition on one planet lol
But majority of it will be. Only the last two tiers are unlocked outside of the planet
Oh no it is one planet
Most phases focus on repairing the ship
I sure hope they'll collect some statistics from this to optimize MP further. New save format has gotten rid of lag spikes when saving or receiving items already which is very nice
Like... they are literally based on getting your ship up and running
How do you know that
Ill post the stuff I datamined and compiled today wait
Oh
Took a long time to format lol
Well that makes more sense haha
Top stuff is the description for the new tech
Sorry I just get so much misinformation on here in always very skeptical
Oh yea, I can imagine that lol
I got the patches too but theres like 43 lol
SO I wont post them all, just the unique ones
Interesting; now I'm looking forward to it even more
Extended version of my Beyond beginning haha
I Believe these ones are totally new and not just reshades
The others are just reshades of older ones I believe
Oh and this one which was added back in Exped 1/2
Any idea what the casette will do btw? Play bytebeat stuff or actual audio files? @grizzled apex
Oh its Bytebeat songs
Devilin Pixy maneged to get them ingame, they could record them if you want to listen
sure
I dont want to ruin my save and get rewards early so Im not touching them 😅
Sultans of Pings, Nemesis101 and a few others I think?
so they're basically just a way for HG to give out music tracks as reward?
The language files in Prisms had a waaay bigger list of HG songs, didnt know why they were unused back then
I do enjoy the milestone artworks
Yep. QS Rewards
They give a very 70s sci fi vibe
I would like to believe the cassette stores a named song for upload on to a players playlist
are they one time consumables or something you can use repeatedly?
So you don't have to find people to share
Thats how they work
It also lets you store it then and get around the song limit
Oh wait do you mean like a replacement for the current sharing to proximity feature?
They are a one time purchase it seems
because current list is so small and I don't wanna get rid of the songs I've found
Oh it doesnt add to custom songs
Wait no
Let me check that bit again
Oh yea its stored in other tracks
Not custom tracks
Other tracks are HG exclusive/ your own made songs I believe?
Good because other has a page indicator
Which means the list could be larger
There's a 1/1 below the 3 songs which always baffled me haha
I havent seen the QS list so im not sure what order these unlock in though
I would assume we get the bubble pipes and glowing cave flora before
Oh yea I do believe those will come first
Again, once Monkeyman updates MBINC we should be able to know a lot more about what was added
the moment you start a new expedition and find yourself trapped in a huge cube
people will definitely grief spawn areas
I hope spawn protection is activated then
Since its mostly a one planet thing, people might appreciate keeping MP off lol, best put that as a PSA for people with slower machines
Fun fact. They added fps lock option to current gen consoles now
Have you looked into the settlements online features? Like how often it uploads stuff to the server and all that.
A lot of the files cant be opened currently because HG has made changes to a massive amount of them, so not yet :/
Basic Settlement Variables are accessible now though. Thats why the first timer reduction mod is up
I changed the values to 0 myself though, lets see how that affects things lol
settlement will have nothing
Oh I meant for timers lmao
The other guy who made the timer mod reduced them I believe, rather than set them to 0
But now I dont have any building opportunities so I cant test :P
Oh thats a fun one. Finding that back when Origins launched, after reading about some Abyss lore was a massive wut moment lol
I hope the expedition won't require original discovery data that you have to upload. I'm definitely gonna be turning multiplayer off since I know for a fact that will just cause glitches galore with so many people plopped onto the one planet
I appreciate this may not be the best channel for it but there’s some overlap, is there meant to be a cool down between settlement projects and if so how long?
there is a cooldown but idk if it's set or random, seems to be random or also possibly bugged for some people.
Someone want to post the coordinates for the living ship questline planet?
In the pins
apparently those were fixed with Frontiers. At least patch notes say so
mnnn...gonna take that with a grain of salt but we'll see what happens
this normal in creative right
Yep
can you leave a settlement?
btw i take it we haven't datamined settlement events yet to determine if they're strictly timer-based?
there's a settlement timer mod already
I assume it's partially possible to dig into it
yeah, I hadn't seen whether that was just for the construction stuff or not yet
Oh you can actually see the expeditoin 3 rewards already at the store?
or did the expedition start now?
From what I read, somebody datamined it
they were already visible in store
just cant be claimed obv
unless u know what to edit ofc
Fixed an issue that could cause some settlements to fail to generate any decisions for their Overseer. Decisions are now expected at intervals of 15 minutes to 2 hours.
latest experimental
well there are the timers for events then
Yeah I'm doing research via decompiling the files to see what else is at play with them, but thanks for the notice @mental socket!
Is there a specific way you're supposed to do the Alone Amidst the Stars quest? I'm trying to triangulate but it won't prompt me for the second beacon. I even went back and moved the first beacon to the new spot and it still won't work
Just do quick save (enter and leave starship) and then exit game (to menu) and reload game
My settlement is getting more haunted but it's good actually
@prime inlet if i'm reading the file right, prior to the latest experimental it looks like the settlement activities may have been intended to occur around every 2 to 3 hours. This info is as of v2.62 anyway:
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However, I'm fairly certain I played at least a couple hours the other day without seeing any outside of the first when I loaded in, so they're definitely still on the buggy side of things
when 3.60 dropped, i got the first (building construction/settler expedition)
but then it must have took at least another day to get another event
Yeah, that's the weird part, on my end in Creative I was able to get through a couple buildings & a few requests before it just went quiet on me
There's still some other potentially related files I can't decompile just yet, so I suspect they may provide some insight into where the bugs were coming from
I'd like to check the experimental files but HG's currently only using Steam's experimental branch & not doing the same for GOG, so can't compare the files I'm looking at unfortunately
If it's possible to answer without spoilers:
I remember hearing when the game came out that if you reached the center of the galaxy, you'd get transported to a different one and basically lose all your progress.
Is that still a thing? Or can I just keep going without worrying about losing everything in my save?
Either it changed or you've been misinformed. You can still be transported to another galaxy, but all your old bases will still be where they were (allowing you an easy way to swap galaxies in the future) and you keep your inventory.
You definitely go to another galaxy, but you definitely don't "lose all your progress," and never really did.
thanks!
The settlement wants me to bring pure ferrite to build a bar... where the heck does it want me to put it...
https://twitter.com/dandichu/status/1433961696150831105?s=20
There's no computer terminal thing like the industrial plant had
And it doesn't let me do it from the office
Appears to be bugged, unfortunately
I am in debt. It says build buildings in my settlement to get out of debt. How do I build a building (I can't if I'm in debt right???)
i'm not 100% sure on if in debt can't build, but the requests/disputes only show up every so many hours (in experimental it appears they're to pop up between 15 minutes-2 hours)
Any known issues with Settlements in galaxy 256 Odyalutai?
how many people are even in galaxy 256
At least one
Maybe even two
So quick question. If I decide to finish the story, can I go back to Euclid?
I've been hesitant of galaxy hopping because idk if you can without doing a cycle
Yes, you can
If you have done any bases, they will still be listed for easy teleportation
Make sure to at least place a base computer in the new galaxy so you don't accidentally get locked out of that
Aight. Thanks
Because I've been on the final mission for months and just haven't done it because I heard you used to be unable to go back
Yep, that was the case at launch and for awhile after
Some are claiming its bugged, the lag between prompts. I left my first settlement to another after I finished that building and was on the 4th bullet goal which is generally "run the settlement" - assuming that was an ok move.
Are the expedition 3 leaks true?
🤷
My settlement had debt when I got it, and I could still build. Your debt affects whether or not your settlement can give you things; if you have debt, any profits made by the settlement will go towards paying it off.
i landed in a strange station, seems infested, with red landing pads and rainbow landing lights on the outside... apart the lack of people here there's nothing to do, right?
@stray plinth Nope. You've just found an Abandoned system.
Whichever race lived there before, they ain't there now.
poor guys XD

Going in, lads
I have to ask the question i haven't seen yet.
IS THAT ITEM FOR THE SPACE STATION IN THE GAME YET?
INFO
That's cryptic asf
That’s pretty interesting
I had my settlers wanting to go on an expedition to catalogue plant life.
It failed and two people died…
aww
@cloud epoch Hey, question! So you edited the new twitch rewards into your save??
mmhmm
May I ask how? I'm gonna wait for those on my own I think but I've been trying to edit in the old twitch rewards and it's not working :T
So I was wondering if maybe they changed the process at all.
Twitch rewards can be added to the "<5B":[] entry of accountdata.hg in the save directory.
Like so: "<5B":["^TWITCH_046","^TWITCH_047"]
They go up to 085
And you need to start game, get to menu, disconnect internet, then claim from reward vendor. For whatever reason the option doesn't show if internet is connected.
ye the new save structure seems to somewhat supplant that
Thought that might have something to do with it
oh sweet jesus this .hg file is a hot mess.
welcome to single line txt files. use notepad++ or something similar
@glacial ember if you complete the atlas path, black holes will be marked on the galaxy map
i presume they stick around after a save, exit, and reconnect internet and load in to game again. i keep forgetting to check that lol
i tagged you here because it's a spoiler
Wow some of these ships are real ugly though 🤣 I'll tell you in a moment.
Hmm it's not letting me get all of them.
not enuf ship slots?
i just used a blackhole and now have no blackholes on the map to select
does it take a moment or something to appear
have you completed the atlas path?
yes
i think i've seen that happen
and you're not going to like what comes next
lol
if this is the same issue...
remember Camros issue?
so is the settlement questline completely broken right now? it's been a day now since I finished my factory and there's no other building requests since then. I also haven't received a citizen decision in probably 12 hours
on console yes
experimental on pc seems to have solved it so hopefully monday on console
that's unfortunate, thanks
any new lore with frontiers
is there a way to get the normandy i missed, because i bought the game last week? 😦
Unfortunately, no. The expedition has ended, you cannot gain its rewards.
ok i hoped just for buying it with an enormous credit sum ingame or something like that 🙂
Think about how much those two learned about the local carnivorous flora, though! You know. Before they died.
The ||portal to help Apollo and use the atlas was Lowkey dope asf||
You think they may work in frontiers into the Apollo story down the road at some point?
Maybe but it would take a lot if work
I want to take up Apollo's offer to have a drink before the end 
Lol
I might take a break from general chat. It got bitchy over the frontiers timer for a while. And the whole discord logo started up again when I first got back online.
Does the story get more difficult or any small changes if you start a new game on permadeath?
no changes so far as i'm aware, and any "difficulty" increase is likely just a result of increased damage/hazard drains from the mode, possibly some higher crafting costs?
Although I don't recall higher crafting costs atm for survival/permadeath, so probs not
I thought it had higher crafting requirements. Interesting.
It may, like I said, I just don't recall
IIRC it's not higher crafting costs, but much tighter inventory limits
250/slot instead of 9999
so you can't just carry Smaug's entire hoard with you to craft what you need on the go
tbh even on Survival the only time I noticed real difficulty was at the very beginning. once you reach space you can easily and cheaply buy all the ion batteries and life support gel you'll need
you can drive em to a space station and dissassemble for parts lol
oh do i just unlock all the portal glyphs for jumping 16 systems now?
yeah, just complete the purge and you'll have all 16 ready to go
well either ill get all 16 or ill find an alien/experimental weapon i guess
a reset will take you to a new galaxy out of a choice of four. you keep all your currently built bases, and all your equipment, but you'll have a lot of damaged technology as a result. you can teleport freely back to the galaxy you came from
a refusal simply rejects the reset option. you won't get to make the choice again, but you can still change galaxy by going to the center and jumping through it. you can go through galaxies sequentially this way, 1>2>3>4
so sad they still don't sync starship trails
Yeah
been reporting it to zendesk with every update ever since they first introduced those
whats this ?;o
space worm
Apollo is literally the only character I don’t hate
Lol
DAMN SYNTHS
How far before or after 2016 does nms take place?
So that’s a syntheticgek
NMS takes place in Atlas computer simulation which exists in an unknown fictional world
it's safe to say that it probably takes place thousands if not hundreds of thousands or millions of years in the future
because there's the time at which the people who built and ran Atlas were alive, which was already in a future timeline from us, but then there's some probably very long gap, after the humans have already peaced out from the planet, at which point the black hole endangers Atlas
theres a strange almost paradoxical thing where the game could be simulating the future. therefore everything in the game is a sim of the future, of our world. so the atlas might not truly be dying yet, nor did the creator leave, nor has the black hole come. because again everything is possibly a simulation of the future.
In the ARG, it canonized No Man's Sky as being a game in the No Man's Sky universe. so HG took this future simulation and made it a video game
so therefore HG could be using the slow declination of the ATLAS as a means to introduce everything the updates have added. the atlas thinking its dying has given us multiplayer for example. and the figure at the end of the remembrance lore might be the simulator coming to end the simulation of its death
that would mean it literally has only been five years (2016 --> 2021). the time the simulation is making, as solar said would be a long long long long time from now. (so 2016 ---- millennia after millennia ---> nms)
the simulator ending the sim might just be HG in that case, lol. or whomever
Imagine if there's a story update where you could break out of the simulation like some tron shit
nope it's in-game lore. i think it was part of the Remembrance lore files. a black hole is supposedly devouring the star system the Atlas hardware was left in
or at least that's what the sub-simulation thinks anyway. there's a chain of unreliable narration so who really knows
So how does Apollo "die"? Did atlas kill him?
Can I remove Solar Laser and Animus Beam from my multitool after I've used them for their quests?
Do we use them for anything else?
they're safe to remove, the special mats they give are only used for those specific quest stages
Alright, thank you
So! The Atlas....Friend or Foe? Deity or rampaging AI that needs to be put down?
The question rising to me more than anything... If Atlas is our friend; why the sentinels? If Atlas is our enemy; why then does our interaction with it seem more like we are a faithful friend/servant/follower?
they're literally a little loopy
Everyone in nms is high on sentient nanites
as far as I understood it, and I could be misremembering, the Sentinels aren't really under Atlas's control. they are a system put in place to prevent Atlas from going into an AI rampancy. what I believe is that both that Sentinel system, and the Atlas itself, are being corrupted and degraded by the black hole. or perhaps just due to hardware that's been running for thousands of years
what happens to your bases if you select to birth a new star?
@winter bough If you're talking about Atlas Path, nothing.
If you're talking about The Purge, also nothing.
so it's a choice of the galaxy type. everything survives.
I can just tp back to my old base?
no progress is lost, besides tech and mods getting damaged
yes
Nothing. You'll be able to summon it the moment you arrive at the new place, fleet and all.
yes, but if you want to return later on to the new galaxy, be sure to remember to drop a base computer in the new galaxy too
smart
before you do that, make sure your active ship and multitool are crappy and not your main ones. don't remember exactly what gets damaged in the process
buy whatever crappy you can get in 1st space station
I guess
you can have up to 3 multitools
I see a pattern here
So what happens if you choose to go to a new galaxy?
Basically new game plus.
lose all old stuff?
You keep everything you have. Your ship, multitool and all tech you got will be broken and will need repairing.
bases?
Yep, keep them all. Can jump back to them too. If you place a base computer down in the new galaxy you jump to, you'll be able to hop between both galaxies.
oh thats cool
Wtf am i supposed to do after i put in the heart of the sun at the last atlas interface
you will be offered the choice to birth a star
Does it offer this choice in the atlas station or do i just gotta fly around and wait for it to pop up on my screen
Bc i didn’t get a choice yet
I’m just sitting here waiting in the atlas station for something to happen
https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/The_Atlas_Path#Completion_and_Mission_Log has all the info you need
anyone know where the Hyades Hub is?
The only restriction I know of is there must be life on the planet
whats this atlas sequence purge 12/16 down in the corner mean? it gonna blow up the galaxy when it hits 16?
12 glyphs learned, 16 to learn in total
@light junco the artemis path can only be completed once per save
if you rejected the first time, there's no doing it again - unless you can reload to before it
Balls
can switch galaxies in plenty of other ways though
get a taxi, go there via core warping
it's not like it's difficult
🙂
I just want to get to eissettam or whatever.
submit a request, wait for someone to contact you, you join that player, you're in eissentam, drop a base computer, claim it, exit multiplayer
save
done
teleport to eissentam base whenever you want
do i have to warp to loads of systems just to get the glyphs? ive got to what i thought was the end of the story and i only have one glyph unlocked
my primary missions are the purge, atlas path and space anomaly
You'll get them automatically at the end of the Artemis path. The purge will get you one each warp toward the center.
Other option is hunt around for traveller's at space stations. It's more work.
ah so I can just head to the centre and get one each warp as long as the purge is active mission?
Yea. By the time you finish the purge you'll have every glyph
ah nice ty, I mistakenly thought the purge was just a mission to get to the centre.
Every step you take is one step closer to the centre
In a way yeah
I haven't really played since a bit after launch on PS4 - been on PC for a year off and on now. I started a new save with a group of friends, and I encountered three humans while on the Atlas Path. They were together in the Atlas Station, in some sort of stasis in the air, cloaked in a white miasma
It was to my understanding that humanity wasn't depicted in the game, at least not directly
If you zoom in on them you'll see they are the 3 NPC races of NMS, Gek, Vy'keen and Korvax
How far in do you make the decision to ban or not ban dancing?
I am in the process of building my second building
The humanoids were travelers, such as yourself. The have many uses,(I think) including the ability to find portal glyphs early game
Correction, fallen travelers
I haven't gotten to the option on policy changes on your settlement yet. Currently on my 4th building.
So did you guys choose to reset or refuse?
I initially chose refuse
then I reloaded an old save and did reset
but I felt like that just didn't feel right so I refused
I didn't really understand the story so I was under the impression that resetting the universe stops the Atlas from dying in 16 minutes
but resetting is actually just the Atlas in denial about it's fate, believing that resetting will fix it's problems
So morally I think the correct option is to refuse because resetting won't solve anything
unless you're really hankering to go to a new galaxy quickly lol
Oh I reset first time. Thas why I finished the purge.
Was more of a I wanted to find more colorful paradise in eissentam
Also is it clear if the simulation is a reconstruction of the actual universe, as in things like the three races are real and such
and if that is the case at what point did real history end and the simulation story picked off
like is the korvax rebelling against the gek real or only in the sim?
and imagine how existential it would be realizing your entire reality is just a binary recreation of the real world
on some old machine
it's left pretty ambiguous @grizzled shore
the earliest versions of the Atlas subsim were of the "actual universe" to determine whether the creators' universe was itself a simulation, which the Atlas subsim proved it was, but thereafter things just get murky
Oh, and to clarify, the Atlas subsim is what we're poking around in the game itself
subsim?
Yeah, the host simulation that you refer to as the actual universe is host to another simulation run by the Atlas
Thus, Atlas subsim
so subsim would mean that the atlas also controls the "real world"
and not just another simulation machine?
No.
It's basically:
??Reality??
-Atlas Foundation Simulation
--Atlas Sub-Simulation (NMS).
All the NMS simulation proved was that its creators existed in a simulation, but so far as we're aware, neither ever figured what was behind the creators' simulation.
so whoever created the sub-simulation named it atlas unaware that what they were in was also atlas?
No.
The Atlas Foundation created the sub-simulation that is being run by the Atlas we're aware of, but neither know what's simulating the creators' simulation.
That's in the realm of ??Reality??
ahhh
I see
I forgot about the "atlas foundation"
I thought by foundation you meant it was just the "beginning" of this rabbit hole of simulations
that's some matrix shit
Yeah, sorry, it's kinda hard to pin down the right language to describe this 😅
If you ever watched tron legacy the dude's waifu comes to the real world in the end
Especially when I'm not sure where folks are coming from in terms of Waking Titan awareness. I should probably have said Creators' Simulation
Yeah see, the fun part here is, there may not be any base reality for all we know
imagine if we could leave the simulation and become flesh
There are some pretty heavy implications here & there that there is no base reality necessarily
just an endless loop of simulations?
SCP Foundation wants to know your location.
More or less yeah
I mean that's kinda cool but I hope that's not the case
A simulation cascade
would be cool to have a true ceiling
What difference would it make?
Atlas needs to be put under Foundation control, it seems like its exceedingly anomalous
meh
If reality itself is but the multitude of intersecting simulations, then there's nothing to be found in any "ultimate" ceiling
the truth is that NMS is gonna have a new update where you go through layers upon layers of simulations to reach the real world and it's just some fat nerd you beat up
nah scratch that
you go into the real world and materialize in hello games
you, the player, unknowingly contributed to an armada of sentient AI invading the real world
Treat AI as an equal. AI will then most likely not wipe us out
I for one welcome our AI overlords
which galaxy is the best?
i finished the game and decided not to reset but apparently the others are better
there's no best galaxy
euclid is just fine
if you're like most other players, then you want to be in a lush galaxy, so you can have lush planets everywhere - like Eissentam
that being said
it's easy to go to other galaxies
and you can have a base on every one that you want to have a base in, teleporting from galaxy to galaxy at will/on demand
!starcablink
whats starcab?
U can request a taxi to anywhere, any galaxy u want
dope
im guessing you achieve that by friending people on steam and making people choose the multiplayer option so they start right next to them right?
Thats right!
Is the atlas path before the traveller cronologically
I know you do the atlas path after Artemis. In order of release. And Artemis is like one bug tutorial. I have yet to do atlas path so not sure if story wise it actually goes first.
Like a prequel
If I dont like the planet, where a settlement is located, can I get one on another planet?
Or is there only 1?
how do i get a heart of the sun blueprint i cant find it in the synthesis laboratory in the space anomaly
you can only get it by progressing the Atlas path
Does this restart progress or building are rng?
And traits?
i got a remembrance blueprint and i need a heart of the sun. Do i just need to progress more in the atlas path?
yeah, you basically need to complete atlas to craft it, it's the last seed it asks for
oh ok thanks
re atlas script version conversation in main channel
ngl kinda split, like some parts of the disc script more than the later versions but then also like some elements of the later versions over it
and similar for 1.03 up to Atlas Rises over either disc or Atlas Rises
what's funny tho is this reminds me of the three paths mentioned way early on. I think they were genuinely: free explore without guidance, Anomaly antics, and Atlas Path
og anomaly requirements tho, that was rough
i dont have any real preference for the scripts, it is interesting tho how the latter ones are far more obtuse compared to the earlier ones pretty much straight up shouting that it's a sim
lol yeah
text file of all the 1.00 atlas script, (was too lazy to paste the later versions in the sheet lol)
interestingly the order the atlas languge is learned in game is the order of the words used in the 1.00 script
even now? huh
close enuf, some missing https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Atlas_(language)
the atlas bits that needed translating always felt a bit off tho since the odds of anyone ever having enough words before interacting with the atlas was like 0% lol
which may have been intended to have like a meta mystery ¯_(ツ)_/¯
After completing the main story I have come to the conclusion that Sean Murray never lied about there being multiplayer in the base game.
Holy crap, the special expedition hyperdrive has a base range of 600. With adjacency bonuses that is going to be insane.
The new launcher is 25% launch cost instead of 50%. The new pulse drive has maneuverability bonuses and is 25% faster.
And they will benefit from regular class upgrade modules?
did you test those yet
Everything else is the same, so it should. Don't have time to test it right now though
So basically that will be the most overpowered ship in terms of manouverability and warp range?
There's nothing there, just the monstrous egg
"Every world that turns" hmmm no
lol
I wouldn't be surprised if 1.00 was partially written by Sean. "One adjustment within our coded framework could have changed everything" It mirrors things he would say in interviews. I remember the 1.03 patch notes were like "hey we have a new story now! with a writer!"
I figured I probably come here to ask this. Is this asking for parts? Or, is it actually still building? I mean, the icon is green. It's usually red if it's asking for parts.
If you already supplied the parts than yea. It's going to take a bit for it to reach 1% because i'm pretty sure that's a 4-12 hour build.
If it doesn't go to 1% after like 3-4 minutes, than it's likely bugged.
do the storyline choices matter at all?
what are your guy's opinions of the No Mans Sky Story
At least not in the files. Cause Normandy wasn't either, nor Prisms was hinted. Right?
I think with Expedition 2 we weren't able to see what the rewards were until the patch came out, but with Expedition 3 we can see everything
It's definitely possible for them to change the files as they are and add a surprise, I just don't think they will
I think you could but they were short of decoy rewards to trick you it was just that. Or at least that's what ive seen somewhere from a known streamer, but yeah could be wrong
Did Expedition 2 get a patch halfway through, when we were stuck at the encrypted community mission part? I don't remember
I dont remember either. I didnt even participate. You know better than me for sure
Like 4 days into it there were patches
Any advice on what option I should choose here?
Oh wait nevermind
Can't post screenshots
It's the first transmission you get in The Purge with the choices of "Seek the Final Interface", "Complete the Atlas Path" or "Explore the galaxy"
I always Seek
What does each option do?
I want to make sure I choose an option that doesn't end up screwing me out of anything that I may want to explore (such as the other galaxies)
Complete the Atlas Path is just that, you go and finish that questline, Explore i have not ever picked because I was always afraid it would lock me out of finishing (probably doesnt) And Seek is to finish the Artemis Path
Alright, is there anything I should do before I go towards to the center?
Nope, not really
Cool, thanks!
I may post this in screenshots, but what are the chances of getting a Korvax enetiy called Nada in a settlemen???
Testing the new ship tech. This is with a base hyperdrive stat of 81. It's not as overpowered as I thought it would be. I could squeeze a little more out of it, but the exotic we get in Expedition 3 won't have an 81 base hyperdrive range, so I think the max vanilla range with the new tech will be less than 4500 ly.
I still have no idea what this thing is for:
This is going to be interesting
What seems wierd is these aren't expedition rewards
At least ones we can see
Yeah, apparently can't get them in normal saves, at least yet
They would need to change some things as well if they added them to normal saves, like being able to delete the core tech when you install the new tech
Yes, these are replacements for the normal tech. The launch thruster is half the launch cost of normal and the pulse drive is a little faster with maneuverability bonuses
I can get screenshots. One minute
We got a patch basically the moment we were done with the research
And then we
Started doing the new missions
Then you posted the normandy
Then everyone went insane
So they're alternative core techs?
That presumably need a lot more repairing than normal
That life support one is gonna be the problem probably
Seems like we're gonna have to get warp cells without leaving the planet
Hmmmm. This is interesting.
The Pressurisation Capsule and Waveform Engine are confusing me though. I don't know why we'd need them.
Waveform replaces the pulse engine. The Pressurization Capsule, no clue
Either way, gunna be interesting to see where and what this is leading to.
The waveform engine is pulse engine
So we dont die!!!!
Imagine if they pull a beachhead again
The Pressurisation Capsule adds a Ship_LifeSupport stat, but no clue what that is for or does
"it's gonna be different"
5 days later:
"You fools, it was mass effect all along"
We getting gas giants and this is the way to make them a viable option to explore, exploring without leaving your ship.
/s
Monsters hidden inside the gas clouds of the atmosphere. 
I'm guessing we're getting a new class of starship.
They have planned a separate life support you need to charge while in ship
maybe a future feature or just a thing during expedition
our life support might drain even in ship unless we charge that

Nah it's prolly an expedition thing
That actually will prolly make that exotic rlly unique
I hope to god it doesn't work that way. That would be super annoying
Well I wouldn't be surprised. After all the entire process of fixing the ship has been made difficult there
And I don't know how they would limit it to only this type of ship and not hit all our other ships
maybe it's not defined by the ship but by the game mode. During expedition we'll just have life support drain in ship
That could be, I haven't looked for that
Hopefully it'll begin today
KrazeGaming is going to lose a lot of reputation if it doesn't
Is it downloading something now?
3.64?
3.63
I think XBox didn't get it yet
Dunno, just got it on xbox, steam of course was days ago
Yea it came out yesterday on ps5
I think they'll push the current experimentals to all platforms to start the expedition, but that's assuming they start this weekend
Start off on an activated weather planet, jfc
Need to collect storms crystals, and some other stuff to fix the custom launch system
Its honestly exactly what i wanted to find a mod for
So im pretty excited
so long as the storms don't make me wish i was deaf, i'm alright with an extreme planet
Pain of being a mod is that you end up spoiling yourself, but I'll be playing any minute 😛
Have fun 🙂
Extreme planets are comfy
Wait a minute....was the minotaur always called a 'heavy exosuit hybrid'?
'Advanced Jetpack' plans? Wtf
Theyre all fairly easy to accomplish but very diverse like Exp 1
I think this will be the best Expedition imho
Excited
'Restore Starship life support systems'
Wtf does that mean??
Oh god, this actually has me hyped and I gotta leave for work lol
Eh...Rocketman challenge is back, nice!
Lol, reaching rendezvous 1 is in phase 5, jesus lol
Hehe
Must be far across the planet
Get ready for some heavy walking haha
Roamer time
I read it ahead of time cuz I knew I'd be spoiled anyway that's why I was excited
Fuel up the Lamborfeeties
It sounds super exciting honestly. Like the no ship challenge but a little different and on an extreme planet
I honestly really like the idea of being planet-bound for a long while.
VR!!
Yeah, same
I was just asking someone, i think Gamemaster, if they could make a mod that makes ship repairs harder in general, so this is almost exactly that
As long as it’s a good environment
can someone post a screenshot of the milestones? I can't play rn
This sounds promising
Lmfao
If only it was a comfy swamp
Too easy haha
Damn exped 3 is actually all on that one planet, incredible
The extreme swamp planet from exp 1 was great
I was thinking only phase 1-2 will involve the planet and then you go to other systems
Exped 1 started on a desert planet
Rendezvous one or two
Was an extreme swamp
redacted?
I think it was second rendezvous
Can't even steal stuff from Pioneers to use until spaceflight capable xD
Toxic
Shit live yet?
They give you a Save Point now too
Nice
Is the system uncharted? Curious if there is a station
I just wanna see all the milestones
Same
Nope, its charted. I spawned next to a trade terminal too
Surprising
Gisto
Woody said there were some biome override structs for expeditions. That must be it
Yup, storm crystals and regular copper confirmed
@wind panther do you know the start and end time for the Expedition from the game files ?
Probably so you can use the copper lol, activated copper can't be converted to normal copper
It says two weeks
I'm in my phone for the night
is there anything involving settlements in the new expedition
No
thank god
Judging from last time, I'm gonna guess 23 October or somewhere close
In game said 6 weeks, so probably just like exp 1
Yeah it was a day or two less than exact two weeks iirc
Yeah but I want to make a command for exact time to countdown to
The actual post said 2 months
Oh give me a few minutes and I'll look it up
HG must know i always switch to Gek lol
I kinda wish playing as gek actually lowered your first person viewpoint too
lol, it does with vendor interactions for some reason. half the time, im staring at the countertop
Yeah exped 1 also said two months, it only lasted a month and 2 weeks
April 1 - may 17
it does now, post-frontiers
I'm getting setup to get the exact time
im usually in 3rd person, so ill have to try this now lol
So I think it might be October 26, or 31st
Happens for all heights though
yeah, it's a great change! there's a setting in the pause menu to toggle the camera position between "default" and to your character's eyeline
oh really? It didnt happen for me when I switch to Vykeen for a time 🤔
must be a bug i guess
It should be fixed now
alright, igotta head to work. hope everyone enjoys the expedition 👋
Send screenshot of phase 1 pls
Or anyone else who's playing rn
Do you have to be a Gek? Is anyone not a Gek?
That's even less lmao
a month and a week 😆
so much for two months i guess
*approx
i'd rather they just be accurate. i don't see the problem in them saying it'll end on October 18th
Yeah it created a lot of confusion last time
im interested to see the final reward this time around
People thought exped will still be up but they only had a week
idk why they don't just say the date it ends on rather than this vague amount of weeks/months
that expedition planet does have some high mountains
Yeah, sorry, had to go to work. From what i saw though, theyve definitely dispersed the challenges a bit more from what Exp 1 was.
I do wish it wasnt a toxic planet though, since my pc seems to drop frames on those planets for whatever reason
Maybe they don't because issues may arise on their plans and schedule on releasing stuff or whatever so they leave it vague in case they can add a week or two, who knows.
That expedition planet is quite something 😄
Lol
yoooo one of the rewards for the expedition is a station override
We get to finally see what that does
Neat
I kinda cheesed this
Oof so month and a week again rather than 2 months? :#
I used the small floor panels during Exp 1, so dont feel bad lol. I deleted them immediately afterward
The devs also figured out we were using the glass floors because they didnt require glass. Now all the glass floors require glass 😖
Any beetles/butterflies on that planet? I wasnt on long enough to check
Yeah, those things can hustle
How on earth do you already have cadmium
Use it!
Bout to wrap phase 1
I got phases 1 and 2 complete. Soon phase 3
Can't test override yet. Have no way of lifting off
Aah OK
is the override a cross-save reward?
are there any milestones that seem really annoying or difficult
😮
It ||overrides the station core||
WTF. If you're being serious that's HUGE.
about to try it out now
access denied

Anyone here know about cartographers from experimental? Just want to know how much time gating there is or if I could pretty much knock the whole thing over in a day?
More mission steps needed?
as far as I can tell you can do it in a few hours
Ty.
I need 9 more steps and none of them are time gated
No settlement building?
Huh
nope
well, you have to extract 1k minerals from a miner but that shouldn't take too long
Comfy
That’s very good to know. I was going to jump in as soon as PS4 was live but given how shaky the last update was I might even give it a day or two.
How do I start the expedition?? It says expedition complete
Try loading a different game save, and then going back to the menu
Or restart
I've restarted my game and launched a save, do I need to delete the old expedition save ?
You shouldn't have to, no
It dont want to convert into normal save
Iv' done that :/
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