#nms-spoilers

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novel torrent
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If we resetted the universe at the end of the game, does that mean that Artemis is alive?

mellow robin
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Nah, it's more like a reboot than a time rewind

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Besides none of the Travelers are really alive, or ever were, unless you stretch your definition of "life"

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It also depends on your other choice for Artemis, mine is still kicking in the sub-simulation

wind swallow
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What actually happens if i reset the galaxy

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Do i lose anything?

halcyon osprey
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you keep all bases and progress

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you just have a new galaxy to explore

wind swallow
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ok how do i get back to the atlas place to reset it

novel torrent
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Also be prepared, your ship, multitool and exosuit modules will take damage and will need to be repaired

wind swallow
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ok ill gahter the required materials beforehand

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also whathappens with living ships? do those get damages?

novel torrent
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uhh

novel torrent
stark flame
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yes living ships do take damage iirc

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need to be repaired with weird things like goop and alien stuff

floral nimbus
winter oasis
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guys

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i need help

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im at the end of the story

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and i need to get to the center of the galaxy

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do i do that by getting all the glyphs or something else?

ember cobalt
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@winter oasis You see the path to the center? Follow it every warp you will get a glyph then you can do a portal

winter oasis
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thx i did already

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im going to search up the address

latent jacinth
winter oasis
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thx really helpful

outer relic
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I hope you haven’t gone there with a portal already, because you should know that you don’t actually have to go to the center. If you warp 16 times you get to a place that finishes the quest ||and lets you pick another galaxy to go to||.

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You also get all of the glyphs for free while doing this.

real sapphire
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Exactly how rare is Gravitational Anomaly Storm

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i've been to many many exotic planet and never experience one xD

uncut harness
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Doing some story missions where I am talking to apollo and null, and jumping to each races cartographers, is there any telling how far or close I am to finishing this? I just want to build bases use the portals, and be a spacemans

uncut harness
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you don't have to do the quest to do that

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Quest is optional

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but dont i need to do that to unlock portals?

astral karma
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nah, portal glyphs are unlocked a few different ways (though what ways those are vaguely escape me)

uncut harness
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well right now i refused the atlas and it looks like it wants me to come back and do a reset

uncut harness
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Once u get portal glyphs you can sorta drop out

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Quest is easiest way to get glyphs tho

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and you can always do it after

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yea so I just did and i found my first portal

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i am at the subreddit that shows off a bunch of peeps' paradise planets that i can visit with the glyphs

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but the glyphs they have are 12 and my portal wants 13

prime inlet
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once you input the 12th glyph, the portal automatically resolves the address and opens up the portal tunnel

compact relic
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I found a base that isn't mine called Likholu and teleported to it

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um wtf?

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is this a thing

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is this a bug that everyone just has

wind panther
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It's a bugged system. Leave ASAP if you value your save. If you don't care, look around

compact relic
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yeah I looked into the galaxy map once and my game bugged

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surprisingly people made bases all over it

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community is weird

wind panther
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Yeah it's a novelty

compact relic
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so it'll just be in my teleporter portal forever then?

wind panther
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It will eventually get pushed out by others

compact relic
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not anytime soon then hahaha

wind panther
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But some of those others might go back there, since so many people like to build bases there

compact relic
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I think I counted roughly 20 bases there

compact relic
strong mantle
austere rampart
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Should I scream, rejoice, or submit?

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I’m not sure what to do

compact relic
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#out-of-context

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is this a monolith or traveler encounter

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if monolith, submit for language

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that's what i usually do

old fjord
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OK thanks

real sapphire
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Was doing the final questline for living ship, some of the marked locations are normal ship lol

cunning musk
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I'm doing the living ship quest line and I go to the co ordinates but when I get there the coordinates after the dot keep changing I've looked all over the area I'm in and I can find anything to do with it

halcyon osprey
cunning musk
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No this is the second planet

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And extreme storms planet its taken me to

halcyon osprey
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does the planet have high mountains or any hilly features?

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because some terrain might block the plaque from spawning correctly

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there are two things i can say about this,
1 continue finding the plaque on the planet
2 warp away and find another planet with better plaque rng

cunning musk
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That's might have happend with my last planet bc it redirected me to a new solar system

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Ye I have it on it now instantly when I found it on me planet thanks

halcyon osprey
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no problem

pine pier
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So just found a bit of info behind an v3 door. I think we're the bad guy...

crude path
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Is there an up to date story summary anywhere? Youtube or written?

native holly
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So I uploaded Artemis into a simulation and I told them the truth
I feel really bad

mellow robin
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They did add to the historical lore though with planetary archives

half jolt
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My Korvex cartographer mission spawned in the middle of the ocean with no land anywhere around it, have to swim 1000u

mellow robin
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If you do a punch-jump towards the water you should maintain momentum if you don't hit anything down there, should speed up the swim

half jolt
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welp, that was my first run in with an abyssal horror

median lotus
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I need help ive gotten to as close as I can to the center however theres no more systems to teleport to I took a black hole however it led me further from the bright yellow light in the middle

floral nimbus
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what's with these distances

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everyone is thousands of ly away from the center lmao

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imagine

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I'm only 700 ly away since I started the game

floral nimbus
median lotus
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I figured it out ty though

floral nimbus
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oh

median lotus
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relaunched the mission in my system that was the problem

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I actually grinded to the center 3k ly from it rather than find the portal on the 16th warp

floral nimbus
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you could simply rearrange your path by teleporting to another system you visited with Space Anomaly or a station if you are stuck in dead end

granite bone
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so ive just gotten to the purge is wit worth doing the atlas path now? or can i do it later what happens after i finish the purge

outer relic
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You can do the atlas path whenever you want

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But if you want to finish it later you should probably also start later because by the time you’re done with the the purge you’ll be far away from the systems in the atlas path

earnest cape
light grove
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Im in the atlas path misison

sonic viper
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Supposing it says Accept/Refuse/Leave?

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If you accept you continue on the Atlas Path and it’ll give you another waypoint

lean mountain
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Okay real talk, after having seen all the lore tidbits for the three races... The Gek seem to pretty clearly be the villains here, right? Granted, reformed villains, but only in the sense they were literally re-formed by the Korvax into a more passive species

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The things their relics say are horrible

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They enslaved an entire race to use their blood as a drug and currency

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The Korvax seem to be almost entirely passive themselves, and while the Vy’keen are jerks in their own ways, they aren’t WRONG when they say the Gek are responsible for many, many problems across the galaxy

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Though some of their accusations are baseless, like insisting the Gek’s aggression brought about the return of the hostile sentinels. That’s happening for other, unrelated reasons.

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Really it seems as if the only “bad” thing the Korvax did was rewrite the Gek genome to make them not horrible arseholes anymore.

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And after being penned in and basically ground up by the Gek for so long, can they even be blamed?

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It’s a wonder that the Korvax didn’t set fire to the spawning vats, as the Gek sub-races had done to each other according to their ruins, their solution was ethically questionable, but comparatively merciful.

dire dagger
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doesn't it say some where that the vy'keen were close to getting rid of the sentinels but then the first spawn came from the out edges of the galaxy bringing the sentinels with them? maybe I'm just remembering someone elses theory

lean mountain
dire dagger
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make sense, modifying a whole species would be considered massive corruption, too bad genocide didn't also count as corruption of a race

lean mountain
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The Gek were supposed to die, but the Korvax were merciful

dire dagger
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the cycle of the atlas universe

lean mountain
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The sentinel “immune system” was like “wait... that wasn’t supposed to happen” and went berserk

dire dagger
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wonder if the breaking of the cycle is also the reason the last traveller is created

lean mountain
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Arguably Nada and Polo fleeing to the Anomaly is what most likely caused the containment failure and began the traveler convergence

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They fled from the sentinel purge

dire dagger
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nada was near dead when they fled too

lean mountain
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Which happened after the Gek’s reformation

dire dagger
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polo must have been working on the anomaly for a while

lean mountain
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The sentinel purge was meant to wipe the slate clean after the error, after the Korvax prevented the annihilation of the Gek, destroying all sentient life in the galaxy in the span of about 30 minutes

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But those two escaped... the prior iteration was not fully erased, and so, the new one began to overlap with countless remnants of older ones

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And the walls began to crumble

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The simulation is becoming unstable and is overloading Atlas, protocol 16 is a “reformat everything and start completely over” last resort to preserve Atlas

dire dagger
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funny how it happens around the same time that atlas is being shut down and dying

lean mountain
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Atlas has been a bit shaky for quite a few million cycles now, but all this happening at once, it’s just too much

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This many deviations all at the same time

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Think of it like an unreliable old hard drive, where sometimes the data it writes isn’t quite right, or it doesn’t fully erase things, but whatever, it’s always moving forward until it has to start over, and by then it will be inconsequential

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But this... this basically created a buffer overflow. The starting number of lifeforms was not zero, so it’s thrown everything out of alignment and it’s reading old data alongside new data it’s creating because the starting pointer was never correctly initialized.

novel torrent
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Based on that, wouldn't the sentinels attack the anomaly

lean mountain
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They can’t see it

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No one can except the traveler

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Because it exists out of bounds, it’s past the data Atlas can access

novel torrent
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But it's inside the atlas

lean mountain
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It’s accessible using a pointer from within Atlas, but it exists in a sector of data that’s out of bounds

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Only the traveler can use pointers like these because Atlas doesn’t need to use them normally

novel torrent
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So that's why when we reset it still exists?

lean mountain
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Yep

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It always will, unchanging

novel torrent
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Do nada and polo suffer from the reset or no

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I mean memories reset and stuff

dire dagger
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they some how lose memory of you

lean mountain
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Right, because their bodies are out of bounds, but their experience of life was still in bounds, and was erased

novel torrent
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But when the atlas will shut down, would they still exist?

dire dagger
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but then how do they remember how they ended up in there in the first place?

lean mountain
dire dagger
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but that doesnt make sense

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that they forget you

lean mountain
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It’s complicated and some is left unexplained

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But I hope the other stuff makes more sense now :V

novel torrent
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I guess lol

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And

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Do you think we will get a 15//15//15 ?

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Or even less

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Maybe the story will progress while we try to save the world?

dire dagger
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pretty sure time in the 16 seconds is infinite

novel torrent
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Minutes

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And we don't know

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We don't know how much is a minute in the real world

dire dagger
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just because you can bail on the reset and it never counts down

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like really you shouldn't have a choice, the 16 count down should always happen

novel torrent
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It does

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The thing is

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While we reset the countdown isn't reset

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We are trying to slow it down doing that

dire dagger
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should pull a nier automata where you can say fuck it and just delete everything

novel torrent
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Lmao

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It's inesorable

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The atlas will shut down

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And it will pretty soon

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For him at least

dire dagger
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thats what I mean, instead of reset, you let it shut down

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but it just wipes all your data

novel torrent
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Also what is the difference

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The atlas is shut down and reset

dire dagger
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but you keep all your stuff

novel torrent
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We reset every time

dire dagger
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its like it never really happened, its barely an event

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would just be fun to have it actually die

novel torrent
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Yeah

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God I want to see it now

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No man's sky update: atlas down

dire dagger
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considering the writing, it would be interesting to read what the atlas says at it shuts down

novel torrent
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Atlas open the pod bay doors

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im sorry dave

lean mountain
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Interestingly, the Korvax may hold the answer to the true nature of the simulation, who built it, how, why

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And the reason I suspect this is because of the simulation they managed to create within the simulation, that now resides in the anomaly

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The one you can put Artemis inside of

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The Korvax are a collective consciousness and intelligence, perhaps even a latent part of the Atlas itself

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They may see things even the traveler cannot

dire dagger
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i only know this because I get the same message when I open atlas 3 doors every time, but the person who at least operates and talks to atlas outside of the simulation is hinted to look just like you

cedar shell
river ore
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You know. I sort of wonder. The smaller ish sized frigate around your much larger one has docking pads. You think we're in the future are able to pilot those much larger ships?

astral karma
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you can actually land on them to do maintenance and repairs and stuff

river ore
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Oh...

astral karma
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you can also position them next to black holes and jump off the dock to die warp without a ship

river ore
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lol

astral karma
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the only reason I know that is it was a thing in the subreddit for a while

heady pond
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how do I find my broken ship after the purge btw

outer relic
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There should be an icon on your HUD like there always is. Also if your launch thrusters were in your tech inventory (which keeps stuff from getting broken when switching galaxies), you can just summon it.

lean mountain
velvet patio
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I’m not excusing the absolute atrocities that the Gek committed, cos they are disgusting. But I also don’t hold that as a grudge against them, for the same reason I don’t hold the holocaust against all Germans. Whether or not of their own volition, they did change, so I won’t hold the past against them

lean mountain
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I guess it depends on your view of how much a species’ genetics determine their behavior

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Because I’m sure there were outliers among the gek

velvet patio
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I mean, this might just be me, but even if it wasn’t due to their genetics and they were just dicks, I still wouldn’t hold it against them if they changed

lean mountain
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I kinda wish they didn’t sound so insincere and weren’t so quick to snap at minor things when trying to interact with them

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They’re by far the easiest race to upset by accident

velvet patio
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That’s fair

lean mountain
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Even the Vy’keen are often like “Ehhhh... You’re not one of us, whatever”

velvet patio
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I have lived the Gek since playing creative and getting a freighter with a Gek crew. I was trying to figure out how to do frigate missions, and I found the dude organising it so adorable and happy

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Whenever I arrived he’d be like “Captain-friend! Let us organise the fleet together!”

lean mountain
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Again there’s a wide variety of them for sure

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You know maybe this is my retail background talking but

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A lot of the Gek you meet at stations and trade posts act pretty similar

velvet patio
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That’s true

lean mountain
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Overly, suspiciously polite, and often slipping up when you upset them somehow, telling you how they really feel

velvet patio
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I definitely find that with some of them

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Like my overseer...

lean mountain
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They talk like car salesmen

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:V

velvet patio
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He’s being a prick atm

velvet patio
lean mountain
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Apparently it really is a compulsion though. Their expansionism is still there, but instead of for blood, it’s for money.

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They’re perpetually obsessed with money

velvet patio
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Well that’s true

lean mountain
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That was the one change the Korvax made, truth be told

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What they felt like they needed most

velvet patio
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It’s cos korvax blood is related to Nanites right?

lean mountain
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It IS nanites

velvet patio
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Oh

lean mountain
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Nanites are korvax blood

velvet patio
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(Contemplated whether to attempt melting a korvax into nanites)

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Nah, that’s mean and korvax are chill

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I have yet to find anyone who dislikes korvax

lean mountain
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I mean that’s how a majority got into circulation

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From the Gek Dominion Era

velvet patio
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Yes

lean mountain
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I mentioned every race has a key flaw and I never mentioned the one for the korvax

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They are impersonal by design. They’re a hivemind like Legion from Mass Effect, or the Borg Collective

velvet patio
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Ye

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They’re literally all the same person, pretty much

lean mountain
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The key difference is that each one is technically an individual, in the sense that their actions are as governed by their resident iteration, said iteration is installed in the body to perform a specific function in society, and once a new, better iteration at that task is completed, the old iteration is erased and the new one is installed.

velvet patio
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Imo the races weaknesses are
Gek-obsession( for either blood or money)
Vy’keen- pride
Korvax- impersonality
Sentinels- they’re so FUCKING ANNOYING

lean mountain
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Fun fact, sometimes you’ll bug a korvax pilot, and at first it says they seem confused, but then their visor turns off, then turns back on after a few moments, their iteration replaced with a trader

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(all in text of course)

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They’re constantly being swapped out and improved depending on what’s needed at the moment

velvet patio
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Woah

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Freaky

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That’s probably why my scientist had an ai aneurism when he disconnected

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I have to go to bed now

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Thanks for the discussion!

lean mountain
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Always fun :V

outer relic
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Adding onto the Gek thing, I think we shouldn’t hold the deeds of their ancestors against the current Geks. Especially since they were changed by the Korvax, but also just because of time and evolution, the Geks we see today are a completely different species from the First Spawn-era Geks.

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They have the same name and appearance, but other than that they’re completely different from the old ones. They don’t try to conquer anything, they don’t attack anyone (except for pirates, which every species has), and they try to be friendly to everyone as much as possible. I’m not saying what their ancestors did was right, but the current Geks are very different from them.

full wren
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Hola

mellow robin
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I agree, their misdeeds have already been judged and they're as much a victim of the sentinel genocide as any of the other races

rancid ether
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Hirk is a warmongering fraud.
Change my mind.

astral kestrel
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You say that like it is a bad thing

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It is very true though.

fair bone
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Gek supremacy

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Dont even try it Hiro

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Thats right fear the Gek

lean mountain
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I just had a really damning crashed freighter log exposing the true plans of Hirk and Nal end with “> ... Someone is reading these messages. Who are you?”

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Such a small thing but creepy as heck

fair bone
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Im monkey

lean mountain
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🐵

gentle marlin
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:0

stray basin
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and im finally in the next galaxy after euclid

mossy palm
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Im not even in the next galaxy

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I'm just grinding

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I can go if I want but I choose not to

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I can actually go to the last galaxy if I find those glyphs someone posted on reddit

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I probably wont

prime inlet
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you lost me

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glyphs? portals? portals can't do inter-galactic travel

crimson swan
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yeah but they can warp you near the galactic core

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so that's nice

prime inlet
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that's true

mossy palm
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Thats what I meant

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When did this get into nms spoilers?

clever tundra
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Can we snap silos/generators/mining units in some way?

dire dagger
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using glitch building yeah

clever tundra
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Ugh I was scared of that

uncut harness
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I made to the where it say's decide Artemis's fate

dire dagger
lean mountain
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At least the way I see it

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That whole sequence made me seethingly hate Null, he tricked me into capturing Artemis from the ether with the promise of their revival. He lied.

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Because of him, Artemis’ death was painful, for a second time

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Unforgivable.

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Screw you, Null. I hope your own erasure from existence was just as much suffering.

sacred tulip
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null bad

novel torrent
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Aren't we null?

lean mountain
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We’re the Nth iteration of Null, where N is a countably infinite number

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The original Null... Is curiosity without empathy, without conscience.

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Without emotion to speak of, other than his own preservation.

wooden meteor
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umm, so i reset the red "ragin" galaxy and now im in epliscato (or something like that) galaxy.

Is it possible to change galaxies after main story ?

lean mountain
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Yep. Make a base in this new one, then go to the Anomaly and visit one of the featured bases, they’re almost always in Euclid, the starting galaxy

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Don’t forget to make a base first or it will be a huge pain to return.

wooden meteor
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do i need to return tho ?

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I like euclid, everything can be found there and my base is there,

lean mountain
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I would still mark your spot in this new one before going back

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Just in case

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Someone might find and share something cool that you want in that galaxy and you’ll only be able to portal to it if you’re in the same galaxy

outer relic
obsidian thicket
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Well, I’m in the calypso galaxy now. Man that was a wild ride.

acoustic mist
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Does it matter whether I end Artemis suffering or upload her?

severe sun
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||nope||

acoustic mist
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Ok

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Is one choice “better” story wise?

severe sun
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not really, the choice is pretty inconsequential

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do whatever feels right

river ore
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I have some questions. How does going to the galactic core work? I know it brings you to another galaxy or universe. But how does the travelling between such work?

tame grotto
tame grotto
zealous zinc
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hi, maybe someone can explain to me: i did some quests, got all the glyphs, went through a portal, talked to atlas, didnt reset, stay in euclid now. now there are still other 2 "mainquests" fly to the heart of the galaxy and find atlas... - i am a bit confused

prime inlet
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@zealous zinc please confirm: 1) can you see black hole systems marked on the galaxy map? like this? 2), is the other primary quest called New Beginnings?

zealous zinc
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yep

prime inlet
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for both questions?

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@zealous zinc ^

zealous zinc
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just the latter

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if i change the filter to black holes, it shows me a plotted route

prime inlet
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no, nevermind the filter

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@zealous zinc on this screenshot, the white bg/black star icons are black hole systems themselves, not save beacons or regular markers

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this tells me you haven't completed the atlas path.

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switch to the atlas path mission, complete it

zealous zinc
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ah ok ok, thanks

naive flint
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is it worth it to reset the galaxy?

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what changes?

rancid ether
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You get to go to a new galaxy.
You can always go back to your old bases too by just teleporting back.

naive flint
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ah ok

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I accidentally chose to refuse the atlas and now I have to go back to the center

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is there an easier way to get back?

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you inventory/ship doesn't get reset does it @rancid ether ?

rancid ether
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All your stuff thats not in Tech tab breaks.

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So youd have to repair it

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And yeah, no way to go back if you didnt save beforehand

naive flint
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the wiki says I just have to warp jump back to the center again

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do most people reset?

daring bronze
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@naive flint most, yeah. But you can use a portal and enter in the portal0 glyph and it eill put you 5k from the center

naive flint
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how do i find a portal? @daring bronze

daring bronze
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Wiki

naive flint
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gotcha

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@daring bronze hey i found a portal and charged only the portal0 glyph but no portal appeared

outer relic
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Charge everything, then input the glyph

daring bronze
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You have to set them all for that glyph

naive flint
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oh ok

daring bronze
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You need to charge all of themlol

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Then inpit the glyph

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They're flashing because they need to be charged

naive flint
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So I just input that glyph a bunch of times?

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I mean the sequence is just portal0

outer relic
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Input portal0 as many times as you can (I think 12)

naive flint
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So I made it to the core and it just reset the galaxy without being given the choice of what kind of galaxy I wanted it reset to

pine pier
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Anyone ever come across any info about why Atlas made us choose Artemis's fate?

prime inlet
# naive flint So I made it to the core and it just reset the galaxy without being given the ch...

because you only get a choice through the quest, mission The Purge. all you needed to do was to warp 16 times when that mission started, and then go to the atlas final interface. core warping the galactic core also "resets the sim", but does not give you a choice at all, it just core warps you to the next galaxy on the list: if you core warped euclid's core, then you will spawn in the hilbert dimension galaxy.

queen grove
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I just let Artemis die... I feel quite sad now tbh

severe sun
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It's the best option IMO

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You can see the other outcome on youtube

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it's not significant to the game in any way, but letting him die is the kindest thing

queen grove
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mmhm... I have a very extreme view on life. So to me it was close to the decision of having a child. I don't think I can impose an existence on someone.

dreamy crow
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Does the NMS story end after you choose artimis' fate?

queen grove
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Hope not.

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There are still other quest lines

dreamy crow
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I guess but I uploaded Him and have lost all inspiration for what to do next

queen grove
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I want to get the portal glyph things tbh. Want to get a specific fighter and upgrade it and stuff

dreamy crow
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I just wanna fly in space with some friends and have a dogfight but I ain't got friends

pine pier
uncut harness
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I am almost to the Center of the Galaxy

drifting raft
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is it worth completing the purge mission and going to a new galaxy or just staying in the first galaxy?

outer relic
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A new galaxy lets you choose which type of planets will generate the most, so in my opinion it's worth it.

marble harbor
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But only if your lazy

plucky tartan
light grove
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wait she?

crimson swan
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artemis is a female?

uncut harness
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I completed the story

marble harbor
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NOOO

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THEY KILLED APOLLO

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FHAT FUCKINF BASTARD ATLAS

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New question

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How kill atlas

rancid ether
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@hot bear the next mission iirc

hot bear
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:D

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o man

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thank you!

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iirc means "if i can recall" right?

rancid ether
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Yes

hot bear
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👍

rancid ether
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Its either the next or at the end of the next mission, one of the 2

hot bear
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thx!

prime inlet
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(side note, to me iirc means if i remember correctly 😉 )

rancid ether
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Oh lol yeah, iirc not iicr

crimson swan
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how long is 16 minutes in no man's sky time

hot bear
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i know this is probably taking this game a bit too seriously, but i just finished crying bc they just killed apollo

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i should probably go to sleep

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but i cant. knowing that apollo just died

uncut harness
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Does Apollo with Artemis and null he died?

vapid moth
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Wtf are these orbs on the new beginnings quest

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Is this something I need to choose carefully

rancid ether
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A hint: you are in blue right now

vapid moth
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Ah, I'm choosing a new galaxy

rancid ether
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yes

vapid moth
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Would be nice if they gave more info on them

zealous zinc
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morning everyone. do black holes guide me to the center?

exotic jungle
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datamined info...

i am here

exotic jungle
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etleast not at what i have seen

zealous zinc
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ok thanks

exotic jungle
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no problem

zealous zinc
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and what happens in the centre?

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also i stayed in my galaxy, didnt reset

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was it any wise choice?

uncut harness
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Getting to the centre makes you travel to the next galaxy

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There are around 255 galaxies in total

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Each galaxy has 1 of 4 possible types, that determine the chances of finding specific planet types in them

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Those are the 4 options you see at the end of main story line

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Selecting any of these will put you in the next galaxy of given type

zealous zinc
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ok and do i have the chance to another choice again?

uncut harness
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Nope

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But you can get to these galaxies by travelling to the centre of previous ones

zealous zinc
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okay

uncut harness
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Or you can ask for a space Uber lift like I said in the main channel to another person

zealous zinc
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?

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get glyphs of another?

uncut harness
zealous zinc
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aaah thanks

modern bison
#

i was listening to music then looked at my screen as i landed in the interface and legit said "what the fuck" outloud

ocean wyvern
#

Once there was an explosion...

crimson swan
#

plot twist you've been the subject of a ritual

vital venture
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Okay I'm here roarin

rancid ether
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Selecting each color individually will describe the new galaxy

vital venture
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I was told I want to focus on Lush if I wanna get to Eissentam.

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Which of the 4 colors represents that?

rancid ether
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So, if you highlight red for example, it will day raging or something like that.
Green will probably say peaceful

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Eissentam is green

vital venture
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A halcyon galaxy, huh...

rancid ether
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Yep

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Before you hit yes

vital venture
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Probably not gonna be Eissentam the first time around...

rancid ether
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Swap your multitool to your worst one.

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And yeah, if you're in Euclid, it will be Eissentam.

vital venture
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o7

rancid ether
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Oh. And move any really hard to replace tech in your exosuit over to the technology tab

vital venture
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I swapped to an s class pistol I found but never bothered with leveling.

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Even if it does I should be okay.

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Everything I have I can pretty much make.

rancid ether
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Replace was the wrong word. Hard to fix

vital venture
rancid ether
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Yeah, just expect some work when you get there

novel torrent
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Death

vital venture
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I started playing this game immediately on Survival, rather than Normal. I'm not averse to some drudgework.

rancid ether
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Also, you should establish a base as a priority when you get there. You can always teleport back to your Euclid bases.

vital venture
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repaired*

rancid ether
vital venture
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Yeah, but I didn't have much trouble figuring things out.

rancid ether
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Same, died a couple times, but i learned quick

vital venture
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Aye.

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I've long since learned that dying loses all of your stuff.

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And I'm so used to the exosuit survival timers that when I started a Normal mode run to play with my friend, everything felt positively comfortable in comparison. Nearly 8 minutes of hazard protection? Inconceivable!

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And like that, everything that was broken is already fixed. Wasn't hard at all.

rancid ether
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Yeah, for real. My first normal playthrough after survival, i just ran through the storm to get the hermetic seal in the beginning

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If you start jumping through cores, youre gonna end up having gear set aside thats always broken haha

vital venture
#

Right, now that my biggest concern is dealt with, back to #no-mans-sky

gaunt sentinel
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so uh i got to the end game and chose not to reset the atlas, it then spat me out back in the euclid galaxy.... i was expecting to get spat out in another galaxy though

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so im guessing i am looking for portal coordinates closest to the galactic core. im curious what other galaxies are there to be explored

thin shell
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use the sunset glyph for every slot and itll take you a couple of jumps from the center of any galaxy 🙂

lean mountain
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Do players start at the edge of the galaxy? Or closer to like, the 1/8th point?

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Everyone racing to the center, I feel like exploring the outer rim

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I feel like unless all players spawn on the edge, there’s probably a huge amount of uncharted territory at the edges of Euclid

thin shell
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theres kind of uncharted territory everywhere tbh

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even right next to the center theres lots to explore if you keep looking

lean mountain
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Oh I know, I just feel like the vast majority of players don’t move backwards, so anything I find at the rim would likely remain untouched for years after its discovery

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That’s kind of an exciting prospect to me, idk

thin shell
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Yeah if you want your own corner of the galaxy its a great idea

lean mountain
#

What even happens to the warp map when you’re at the edge? Do systems just get sparser and sparser until there’s nowhere left to jump to?

thin shell
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I think so

lean mountain
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I wonder if there are drifter systems at the very edge that ended up just barely too far away to reach at all

thin shell
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Maybe. You could mod the game to get there though if you really wanted

lean mountain
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Or figure out the portal coordinates maybe

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Boy, that would be a cool thing to share, coordinates to a lonely system like 9kly+ from its nearest neighbor, impossible to warp to

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Or even warp away from, for that matter

gilded gyro
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Hey guys on the Atlas path quest i reached the final station but only one of the alters shows a beam coming off of it and i cant interact with the center one to finish the quest. Is there any way to get around that?

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I have all the stones

rancid ether
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Go to the one with the beam

gilded gyro
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think i tried that but ill try again next time im on

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ty

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**----++

indigo spoke
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Is there even a difference between resetting the simulation and not resetting it?

halcyon osprey
#

going to a new universe does not delete your progress or loosing your bases

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it just means you have another galaxy to explore

uncut harness
#

And you can still go between Euclid / whatever galaxy you get moved to by teleporters

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As lons as you have a destination from other galaxy in your recent list in teleporter UI (or a base), you can teleport to it

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So yeah, you're not losing anything

indigo spoke
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damn, so I didn't reset the universe in my save - but I still went to the core to go to another universe anyway

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should I start a new save and just reset the sim. or is it not worth it?

prime inlet
#

@indigo spoke warping a galactic core is basically doing the same thing as the quest: it's resetting the simulation, into another galaxy. Instead of giving the player 4 choices, it warps the player into the next galaxy on the list.

indigo spoke
#

if you reset the simulation, does the primary quest go away? 😮

prime inlet
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it shouldn't - you basically keep all of your progress

fluid barn
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The primary quest will stay there but it will essentially be you just create a new star like in Atlas Path

prime inlet
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no

fluid barn
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It did for me

prime inlet
#

if the player hasn't completed the artemis path yet, it should be possible to continue progressing it in the new galaxy

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if the player hasn't completed the artemis path yet, the player might not have learned all glyphs yet, or not have unlocked remembrance yet

fluid barn
#

I have all of those

prime inlet
#

the main story line can only be completed once per save.

indigo spoke
fluid barn
#

The Atlas path is basically just the end of the atlas path mission, that's how it's showing up for me

prime inlet
prime inlet
fluid barn
#

Ah

indigo spoke
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ah yeah, okay that makes sense now

lapis mauve
#

Do you keep all your ships and such when you go through the center of the galaxy?

severe sun
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Yes

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though you'll need to repair some stuff

lapis mauve
#

Even on the ships I didn't use?

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@severe sun

severe sun
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nope, just on your active equipment

lapis mauve
#

Is that the only negative side effect?

#

Can I still call my freighter and keep my inventory?

severe sun
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yup

lapis mauve
#

And I can travel back to my Euclid base with the proper glyph address

severe sun
#

yup

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well, not with portals cause cross galaxy travel doesn't work

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but the station or nexus teleporters work

lapis mauve
#

If I tp back to me Euclid base with the station portal, how do I get back to the galaxy I teleported from

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Can you warp back to the galactic center?

thin shell
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You have to have a base in the both galaxies, which will allow you to teleport between them easily

lapis mauve
#

@thin shell oh duh lol thanks

#

So "The Purge" mission I'm doing rn says "Locate the final portal" but when I go to the galaxy map and choose "galactic center" it still has a long way to go

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Is the final portal going to take me to the next galaxy?

thin shell
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I haven't played that mission in a while but I don't think you're looking for the center of a galaxy you're trying to find a portal

lapis mauve
#

Previously the goal was to progress to the center of the galaxy

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Then when I got 16/16 glyphs it mapped me to a portal

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Will this take me to the next galaxy?

#

Nevermind I read the wiki article

lapis mauve
#

In the new galaxy, my ship is nowhere near and I can't call it because the launch thrusters are damaged

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How do I get to it??

severe sun
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get your walk on

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or use an exocraft

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or build a base

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or summon a different ship

lapis mauve
#

How do you get/raise a living ship

granite bone
#

@lapis mauve void egg

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someone gave me 3 when i was in the anomaly i can hand you one if you want it

opal pike
#

I’ll buy one from you @granite bone

granite bone
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@opal pike ill be down just give me a bit to get home

opal pike
#

all good. stack of starship ai valves good?

granite bone
#

whats that?

opal pike
#

sellable scrap. Stack is worth 250m units

granite bone
#

you have any bulkheads instead ? ive been struggling for those

opal pike
#

let me look

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I do not. I have a spare stack of salvaged frigate modules tho. and a stack of storage augmentations

granite bone
#

the storage should be perfect

#

i could use those

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ill ping you when im home

opal pike
#

okay sounds good

wooden meteor
#

Why doesnt the nexus priest nada(?) want to talk about the system reset

#

its really annoying that he denies it
Is it first , is it last my ass, YOU KNOW ME

uncut harness
#

That's the thing, he does not

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Nada, Polo and all the other NPCs are also a part of the simulation

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Nada is aware of that and knows he follows the reset as well

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He doesn't know if that's the 1st iteration of the universe or if you have met before

wooden meteor
#

oh, so he just knows about the reset, but isnt immune to its effects huh ?

cedar shell
#

Nope. Nada and Polo met in a previous iteration of the universe where the Sentinels destroyed all life, and when Polo died he told Nada they will meet again in another universe

lapis mauve
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@granite bone I would love one!

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How do we get together

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I’m free for the next 6 hours

indigo smelt
#

No, everything being a simulation does not mean that everything is not real.

acoustic mist
#

@indigo smelt What else would you call living in Azatoth’s dream realm where he could wipe you out in an instant

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Simulation means “not real”

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For all intents and purposes, No Man’s Sky is the dream of an artificial god

indigo smelt
#

And words never come real close to the real concept.

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Let's say we are in a simulation, it does not take away from our experiences.

acoustic mist
#

That mostly depends on the context the Traveller PC exists in

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Is the PC real and thrown into a simulation, or created by the Atlas?

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If they’re created by the Atlas then nothing about them is real

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In that context the PC is more or less an advanced AI

indigo smelt
#

You could say it makes more sense to call it a "mechanical creation"

acoustic mist
#

One could even argue they never had agency to begin with because we are the ones controlling them

indigo smelt
#

No, sentinels.

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The lore states travelers are made in the image of the atlas.

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That's why sentinels exist, they are a check on us, but also a check on other NPCs.

acoustic mist
#

Alright then, so the PC is an AI created by another AI living in a universe that is fictional even in the context of the game-universe

indigo smelt
#

No

acoustic mist
#

Yes?

indigo smelt
#

Inside the computer of the Atlas is a mechanical creation.

#

Here is a question for you, can AIs be sentient?

acoustic mist
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IRL or within the game? Because ultimately the idea of sentient AI is science-fiction at the moment.

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And will be science-fiction for a very long time

indigo smelt
#

Hypothetically

acoustic mist
#

No, I’m going to say an AI cannot be sentient

indigo smelt
#

Why not? Your brain is a computer using neurons instead of transisters.

acoustic mist
#

They can become pretty convincing perhaps, but they will not develop their own thoughts and feelings as an animal would

indigo smelt
#

Both using electrical impulses even.

acoustic mist
#

The brain is equal to 200 million CPU cores roughly.

The current largest supercomputer in the world has less than 11 million. And that’s a single computer

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The most powerful computer in the world doesn’t have the computing power of the human brain. We’re simply not there yet

indigo smelt
#

Hypothetically, build a bigger computer. Go full dyson sphere if you have to.

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We can exactly pinpoint in your brain where your emotions and thoughts are.

acoustic mist
#

Nope, computers aren’t capable of thinking abstractly. A computer is a computer because it’s programmed with certain instructions and generally can’t operate outside of those instructions. A machine learning program is no different

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If by some miracle a computer is capable of abstract thought, then the idea of a sentient AI can be entertained

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Til then? Just something that’s fun to read about in books

indigo smelt
#

Thinking abstractly is exactly what a computer does.

acoustic mist
#

In what sense?

indigo smelt
#

Doing math, thinking logically.

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It is the physical world the computer has more trouble with.

#

Does an AI need to be good with the physical world to be sentient? If you had no legs, arms, only a torso and a head, would you be any less human?

#

Would you be any less sentient?

acoustic mist
#

I’m a human, humans are sentient. Computers are not sentient.

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And if I had no body I would not be a human. If my consciousness was uploaded into a computer, it wouldn’t be me. It would be a facsimile only

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Humans and all other animals are sentient. Computers simply aren’t. And they probably won’t ever be

indigo night
# acoustic mist The brain is equal to 200 million CPU cores roughly. The current largest superc...

That might be right ... but todays computers be able what our brain never can do : Imagine if Youtube employees had to manually view every uploaded video and check whether it contains prohibited or stolen content. Every minute, 400 hours of material are uploaded to the platform. The company alone would need 72,000 employees watching videos non-stop for 8 hours a day to keep up with the sifting! An AI does this during the upload process, virtually in real time.

indigo smelt
#

Could Hirk be a traveler? Perhaps the reason for the discrepancy of stories is because there are two travelers(Nal and Hirk) in universes that crossed over?

pine pier
#

Is there ever any info about where the sentinels came from?

indigo smelt
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They come from the atlas. While the lore suggests they come from the outer galaxy, the sentinels have their own dimension.

lean mountain
#

@acoustic mist it is possible that, with the transistors to rival a human brain, the power of a Dyson sphere or other futuristic hyperstructure, and a detailed enough fabricated life experience imprinted onto it at runtime, it may behave in ways we humans cannot realistically differentiate from sentience. The hardware alone is not enough, the belief that it has developed and lived a life of its own, from which it has derived its perspective, opinions, and other such nuances, that is the key.

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Sentience is a series of inputs and outputs feeding back into each other in a way that makes us aware of our own existence

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That is not outright impossible to simulate

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Or rather, EMULATE. We would be creating a brute force brain emulator

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We don’t have to somehow create sentience in machine language at all

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We can, with the theoretical power of a galactic scale civilization, create a series of logic gates large enough to just do the same operations in “bare metal”

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The laws of physics would make it operate much slower than a real brain, as the space between each synapse would be orders of magnitude larger, leading to longer travel time for electrical impulses

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And it must also be given a non-zero starting point. Otherwise it will not experience anything, it will not develop in isolation

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Think of it like a mind-wiped brain in a jar. With no ability to experience stimulus, it cannot establish new connections, it cannot be aware of itself because it has no concept of self, and can’t have one without perception.

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But in theory, if you could somehow force new connections, if you could program it, then you could create those prior perceptive experiences and lead a brain in a jar to become aware of its own existence.

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You could even lie to it and tell it that it’s ANYTHING, and it will believe you

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After all, what else does it know?

#

Same applies to a giant brain emulator. Set the gates in just the right way, power it on, and it “wakes up” believing the same thing that real brain would

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The misconception at large is that sentience simply emerges from powerful enough hardware and a robust enough algorithm. Sentience is the emergent product of a body and mind working together to experience each other and the world.

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But if you can create the same connections, factor in things like neural deviation, physical trauma and cell decay, at a 1:1 fidelity... there’s nothing stopping you from building something sentient, whether it’s a brain in a jar, or a “computer” constructed around a star

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(It wouldn’t be a computer. Not the way we think of computers anyway. By that point it would be a metal brain.)

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Aaaaaaaaaand I should have posted this in philosophy probably. Whoops!

onyx garnet
#

How long does it take for someone to get through the story? I'm already 5 hours in and I'm jut a bit curious

uncut harness
#

The biggest difference between sentient and computer thought is its ability to adapt. Computer software is reliant on human interference. The algorithms have to be written adapted updated. Ect. Sentient life can adapt just from its experience. If you could craft a algorithm that had endless possibilities on any experience it encounters than you have created a sentient being but until then it simply is just a computer. The amount of software it would take to create and support a algorithm like that has not been created yet and may never be. At least not on our planet. It’s very possible that in our universe it is created and alive though.

lean mountain
#

Again, as a civilization with access to limitless materials and energy, why create a hyper-powerful CPU and spend eons translating brain “code” to conventional machine code, when you can take less time (but more resources) to analyze the grand structure of the brain, use a less complex algorithm to comb it for patterns that can be made redundant, and build a great big brain machine that directly mimics synaptic interaction itself with metal and silicon/graphene/ultracarbon instead of flesh?

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Create new connections and you create memory space, inhibit or encourage certain patterns of impulses in certain regions and you have emotions, allow different parts to communicate through others in inefficient ways over long strings of pre-established connections and you have quirks, opinions, biases, and nearly everything else that makes us human.

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This would be done in hardware, not software. There is no software, this is all hardware passing impulses to other hardware, based upon the fixed state the entire machine was started in, and cascading from there

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“Programming” it would be like flipping half a googol worth of light switches before feeding it power, setting all these metal synapses into the correct positions. Sure you can wire them all up to a computer and program THAT to perform the necessary setup steps for you, but this “brain emulator” itself is not a processor, it has no instruction set. It is just as brutally simple as it sounds, millions of billions of physical logic gates, yet it MUST be so to be accurate enough.

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After all, what better way to emulate something accurately... Than to just build an exact replica

uncut harness
cedar shell
#

I came to this channel to talk about interesting NMS lore, now I question whether I am real or not

mighty rampart
rancid flax
#

im trying to get a better understand of the lore from the main story quests

#

so uh basically what is the fate of the universe?

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im not sure if i understood properly

#

from what i gathered the atlas (from the real world) is being shut down and existence doesnt continue without it but then whats with the fleeing to another one about? im probably getting everyhting wrong here

cedar shell
#

@rancid flax The universe is dying. The simulation will soon shut down, and you can see the universe is decaying. Worlds are dying (Many dead planets are implied to have been regular planets that got invaded by bio-horrors), sea levels rising and killing life (In Dreams of the Deep quest), etc

mighty rampart
#

also keep in mind the story isn't done yet and is ongoing

cedar shell
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Resetting the simulation is an attempt by the Atlas to keep itself alive, to ‘reset’ the countdown, but unfortunately that doesn’t reset the Atlas’ countdown

indigo smelt
#

@rancid flax The world you’re in is a simulation, those can be sped up or slowed down and you would be none the wiser. 16 minutes is the time outside of the simulation, the time the atlas(a giant supercomputer that runs the simulation) thinks it will die. However, 16 outside, can be billions, trillions, or more years inside the simulation.

rancid flax
#

yeah i got all of that

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what sohail said explains quite a bit

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i felt like the sotry kind of cut off

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so i guess thats why

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but thanks for confirming it all to me

indigo smelt
#

The people at the anomaly fled to another universe because their sentinels started to react strangely and decided to wipe out life instead of preserving it.

rancid flax
#

oh yeah thats something else i noticed. the priest and polo act rather strangly

indigo smelt
#

The water does not rise, just people drink from it and it somehow corrupts them.

rancid flax
#

the whole ear plugging thing

indigo smelt
#

What?

rancid flax
#

at some point you mention to them you came from another universe and they jut stop you saying they dont want to know

indigo smelt
#

Don’t understand that either.

rancid flax
#

it was after arriving at the 2nd universe

cedar shell
#

I think that’s because they don’t want to know how often they’ve been reset

indigo smelt
#

Could be.

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As for who or what is causing all of this, there’s an entity called “The Abyss”

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Fun fact: your living ship is also associated with the abyss. We don’t know how yet.

rancid flax
#

is the space anomaly somehow synced to be the same no matter where you enter it from

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so all universes are linked to the same anomaly

indigo smelt
#

No, the space anomaly is in the space between universes. What you summoned is the portal basically.

rancid flax
#

makes sense

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then i guess the outside isnt physically what outside of it is like then

#

i mean what if it was to be summoned in two places at once

indigo smelt
#

Considering their past, the people at the anomaly are basically trapped there, or choose death.

#

Consider this: the anomaly is always at two or more places at once. There are copies of the portal in each universe.

rancid flax
#

ok another question: does the universe reset or do you travel to a new one? i found lots of conflicting information about this

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from a gameplay perspective you travel to a new one

#

base portals and all that

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atlas also syas to null he only exploered one universe

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but it also says there has been many resets before

indigo smelt
#

Both?

cedar shell
#

I believe each galaxy is a reset universe. Storywise, it’s mentioned that the Atlas is at the center of the galaxy and each time you travel to the center, you reset the universe and wake up in the new one

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Gameplay wise, obviously you can’t reset everything or else that would mess with all the multiplayer stuff so they probably just made it so you travel to a new one instead but storywise it’s a reset universe

#

So in a sense, it’s both, yeah. Just depends on whether you ask from a story standpoint or a gameplay standpoint

rancid flax
#

and you awake at the "16 minute mark"?

#

i mean its not like you are there at the beginning of the universe

cedar shell
#

I read somewhere that each reset actually makes the countdown go faster, but I don’t remember seeing that ingame, so I think it’s safe to assume you wake up at the 16 minute mark

rancid flax
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well yeah resets do nothing to the countdown but what i meant is everything is already established within the universe

cedar shell
#

Yeah, everything is still established

rancid flax
#

why is that

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surely its not just an oversight by the developers

cedar shell
#

Good question, I don't know actually. I think it's so they don't have to write the lore about First Spawn and Hirk, etc 254 different times

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Or have the established lore just be a minor thing because it's the lore for 1 single galaxy only, whereas the other 254 have no history

indigo smelt
#

Well, Atlas knows that an unknown character is there to help the atlas at the final minute. Leaves me wondering whether or not the atlas is stuck at a perpetual 16 minute loop of dying and being reset from outside.

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But even the Atlas does not know who.

cedar shell
#

Yeah, I think the Atlas might be trapped in its 16 minute loop

indigo smelt
#

Yeah, atlas knows there is a person outside because it happened once before. Makes sense to me.

mossy bolt
#

Assuming it has little to no effect

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Should I upload Artemis or let him die?

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I feel bad if I do either 😅

uncut harness
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Both situations are bittersweet. I personally allowed her to die.

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I don't want to tell you what to do. It should be what you think is morally correct.

mossy bolt
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Artemis is a female? Idek tbh 😅

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I let her die as well.

uncut harness
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I'm pretty sure she's a lady computerface

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Or at least assumed to be feminine because of the Greek name Artemis

mossy bolt
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Didn't know the origin of the name

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Any idea how far into the story I am after talking to the Cartographers? I just want my glyphs and portal 😂😂

mighty rampart
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well the alien races dont use male or female pronouns anyway

uncut harness
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Anyway, I have a question which has spoilers. What actual benefit does the next generation update give besides more generated stuff for higher end devices? Not trying to be rude, just very confused after reading the update notes...it seems nothing much else has changed for pc besides the graphical enhancements? Correct me if I'm missing something please

uncut harness
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That is right

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The main focus was bringing NMS to the new generation of consoles

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PC changes include the graphical improvements to Ultra preset and general bug fixes and optimizations shared with other platforms

mossy bolt
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Must say. Next-gen NMS is crispy

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Shit looks good and I load into the game faster than some PCs

uncut harness
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Oh ok thanks

inner monolith
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Im on next gen no mans sky on ps5 😏

mossy bolt
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^

shut spire
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@prime inlet what type of preparation would I need?
I'm into the 16 jumps. Already jumping to an atlas point each one.

rancid ether
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@shut spire Is there bunch of podiums with a red beam coming from one?

uncut harness
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Like this

shut spire
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Yeah it's the red beam

rancid ether
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Go the first podium on the left and activate it

uncut harness
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Repeat for the rest on the outer egde and then go for the central one

shut spire
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I didn't even notice that 😂

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Which way is better to finish the story? The atlas or purge?
And I hadn't been making those blueprints as I went. Their descriptions sounded dangerous 😂 need indium now. So time to quickly get that.

rancid ether
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Oh yeah, you'll need to craft those atlas seeds at some point haha

prime inlet
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@shut spire they're two story lines. at the end of the atlas path, you will be asked if you want to birth a new star. to get both rewards available from the atlas path now, you should birth a new star. at the end of the artemis path (the purge mission), you will be able to reject atlas's request, or accept, and will be required to choose one of the orbs. each color represents one of the 4 galaxy types in the game. choosing one of these orbs will result in tech/upgrade mods installed in the general inventory of your gear (exosuit, current ship and current MT) becoming damaged, meaning tech or upgrade mods installed in the tech tab of the exosuit and ship will be immune. since MT don't have a tech tab, they can't be protected at all from this damage, and thus it's often suggested to equip a trash MT (a MT the player has no intention of repairing/using at all) before choosing any of the orbs.

shut spire
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So I'm back. Took a small break to do irl stuff. Birthed the new star. Got star seed. Ty for the direction. Now onto finishing the 16 jumps and center of the galaxy.
Moved the important stuff into tech tabs. And put the secondary multitool on.
I'm exited. Time to disappear from Euclid for a while. Until I find some community to play in 😂
Ty for the guidance. Much appreciated.

crisp fern
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Minor point, but for folks that come to the Artemis decision, I think it's important to recognize that ||the original Artemis is already dead. Your decision is regarding their echo/ghost. You are neither extending nor cutting short the original's life.

You are simply letting a recording continue to play out, or erasing it.||

sinful plaza
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||If I go restart the atlas do I lose all my stuff?||

crisp fern
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no

sinful plaza
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||resetting the atlas it is||

shut spire
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Once you've completed story once is it supposed to allow me to just keep appearing at atlas and changing galaxy?
I have the ability to create the seed right away and just jump to the next galaxy.
(Staying calypso a while though)

prime inlet
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no

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the artemis path can only be completed once per save

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to galaxy warp now, you will need to take the other alternatives

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like getting a uber to the desired galaxy

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or using the space anomaly featured bases and hope some of them are in other galaxies you haven't been to yet

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or even core warping, aka going through the galaxy list, one by one

shut spire
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Oof. Looks like I'm core warping lol. Or a taxi the odd time to a few.
It's just I went to the atlas thing. And it's those podiums again with one light shining. Got me all questioning haha

prime inlet
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It's just I went to the atlas thing. And it's those podiums again with one light shining

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that's probably an atlas station - not the atlas final interface that the player goes to at the end of The Purge

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you only need to complete the atlas path once per save as well - even though it can be redone as many times as the player wants to, the player can get all of the rewards from it only once per save

stuck rose
mighty rampart
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asking someone who is already in the galaxy you want to go to

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join their game while they're in said galaxy

stuck rose
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got it

round dagger
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whys so loud

marble harbor
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Are the atlas path and Artemis path 2 different thingsm

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I completed the Artemis path thingy and the atlas path quest just dissapeared

crisp fern
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they are different, yeah @marble harbor

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for some reason they sometimes disappear from the mission log

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it might reappear at some point

violet narwhal
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Nothing in the language files for today's experimental suggesting any "hidden" stuff there.

hybrid pendant
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i think its just patch

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its too soon for an update

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its only been 2 weeks

last anchor
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More like 3 months

hybrid pendant
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More like one month since the last patch

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and more like 2 months since the last update

astral karma
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I'm really hoping we get a first quarter update from nowhere

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because I miss steering the hype train q.q

crisp fern
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i wish we'd have enough interesting stuff to make folks less desperate for updates 🤐

hybrid pendant
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that never happen

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we got 7 updates last year

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and some were still desperate

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and its been only 2 months since the last updatez

uncut harness
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Love the planets with the ||little mud huts||

last anchor
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Yeah same

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I would say feb for next update

iron tide
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Just finished the story

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Idk what to do next

uncut harness
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The Artemis story?

iron tide
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i think idk

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I think te

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ye*

iron tide
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That's the Artemis one right

uncut harness
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You should have a secondary story to do called Dreams Of The Deep which is mostly underwater and uses a submarine.

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If that's your kind of thing.

iron tide
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i see

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Gonna build bases i guess

winter oasis
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guys

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not who is the atlas

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WHAT is the atlas?

halcyon osprey
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16

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have you completed the main story? artemis specifically

uncut harness
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16 // 16 // 16

halcyon osprey
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kzzt 16

wind panther
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That's how long Atlas has left

uncut harness
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16 is how many minutes left until the simulation restarts.

wind panther
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Right, but we don't know why

uncut harness
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Unknown in real world time.

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Actually no you right.

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16 minutes real world time but unknown alien time.

crisp fern
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16 until ded or ???

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it can't see past 16

rancid ether
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NMS 16.0 when?

uncut harness
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We did.

crisp fern
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we already did 👀

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lmao

wind panther
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16 minutes to catastrophic failure

crisp fern
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16 minutes until ???

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'cause it can't see past them

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the presumption is failure buuut

wind panther
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Personally I think it's some sort of global catastrophe like rising oceans coming into the long abandoned data center

halcyon osprey
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why are you guys saying 16 minutes? i thought it was 16 undefined time

crisp fern
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'cause game calls them minutes

wind panther
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Thus also explaining the water and Abyss

crisp fern
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but there's also the whole black hole tearing things apart

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It was originally a reality simulation designed to be able to predict the future completely accurately, as an ontological proof to the reality of the creators itself being a simulation

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It appears to have succeeded, but then gave no indications of who/what/how the reality sim the Atlas' creators were in was designed/built

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There isn't necessarily any outside the simulation

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And if all it was doing was also simulating its reality, then the reality that we're mucking about through would look pretty similar to what we already see within

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Setting aside sim deterioration and such anyway

rancid ether
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Idk, I took a super simple approach to what it meant.
16/16 is the preceding mission to The Purge, and 16^16 == 2^64, which is the number of planets in the universe.
My assumption was that "16 minutes remaining" was just a cryptic way to say the universe was collapsing back.
I also didn't look too hard into it though

crisp fern
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There's some other info in the side rooms in stations (Remembrance Terminals) that gives it a bit more context

rancid ether
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Yeah, some of that stuff kind of intentionally muddies the water though

idle jay
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Those are worth checking out yeah

iron tide
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What happens if you refuse the atlas

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I just chose the option to reset it

stuck rose
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Afaik, you will continue your adventures on euclid galaxy

distant moon
crisp fern
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inactive storm crystal pretty sure

dreamy forge
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Ye looks like it

distant moon
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Storm crystal? Is that why the weather was extreme the entire time I was near it?

heady wyvern
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@distant moon Nah. However, you can harvest these when a storm comes blowing. Very valuable stuff.

iron tide
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if you chose to not reset the atlas, what happens then

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I just resetted the atlas

outer relic
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If you hadn’t reset the atlas it would’ve just left you in your current galaxy. Resetting it takes you to a new one, but you can always come back to the old one with teleporters (just make sure to make a base in the new one so you can get back to it)

vast pasture
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I was pinged in this channel?

tame grotto
vast pasture
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Ah, well I was dashing XD

lean mountain
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What do you guys think Atlas sounds like

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I picture an echoing, thunderous DECtalk Harry

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That would only be the interface itself of course, speaking on behalf of Atlas

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Atlas itself sounds terrifying and incomprehensible

ocean wyvern
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I have a feeling the "words" would just appear in your head

stuck rose
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I would expect Atlas to look like mother alien, ugly look bastard

jovial stag
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I would think more tech looking something like the tet in oblivion

stuck rose
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alright, so make it full of metallic body instead of meat

lean mountain
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I mean clearly Atlas is some kind of decentralized meta-intelligence if it can be in every interface at once, assuming it has any kind of body is missing the point I think

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What you can interact with in the interface is basically just a chat window, we’re at too low a level in the simulation to really access anything more than that

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It’s some sort of hypervisor

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It seems to be in charge of how the algorithm is interpreted, error checking, recording the findings of travelers via the interfaces

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It needs travelers because the galaxy it created is larger than it itself can observe in any reasonable capacity. It has the sentinels for basic peacekeeping and error correction but they’re extremely simplistic, to be light enough on resources to where they can be effectively infinite

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Travelers are far more complex and can act autonomously, so with a single iteration active at once, they’re the perfect way to collect detailed information on individual star systems, planets, flora and fauna, you get the idea

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(I feel like this is why Null is so bitter; he took Atlas’ instructions as a challenge and over uncountable millennia, he indeed saw everything, but instead of some kind of reward, Atlas basically just confirmed that he did his job and shut him down, beginning iteration 1 in his place after a galactic reset)

distant moon
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Is the Purge goal to reach the galactic core or the Atlas Station?

iron tide
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Late reply but

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After every warp stay there for like 10sec

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So you get a glyph

heady wyvern
scenic verge
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i know i entered them right

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i looked up the wiki for it

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or does it just throw me in the right system and not the correct planet

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cause i have two eggs

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and one says water and lush and verdant plantlife

prime inlet
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@scenic verge you're running starbirth? if you're still running starbirth, why are you (trying to?) evolve two eggs at the same time?

scenic verge
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i'm not

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it just gave me two at some point

prime inlet
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cause i have two eggs

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discard the one that's duplicated

scenic verge
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i just followed the quest

prime inlet
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didn't notice you had a dupe did you

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it's alright

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you should have 1 cracking void egg

scenic verge
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but shouldnt the glyphs put me in the right planet>

prime inlet
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you portaled to that glyph address from a portal in Euclid, correct?

scenic verge
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yeah

prime inlet
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the glyphs should land you on the correct planet yes, from what i remember

scenic verge
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it says planet signature does not match the resonance

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and i'm p5% sure i entered it right

prime inlet
scenic verge
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yeah

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maybe i mixed up the galaxt and sunset

prime inlet
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you're still on the "wrong" planet?

scenic verge
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redoing it now

prime inlet
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to confirm glyph addresses, simply open photo mode on the planet you get to after portaling, then confirm if they match

scenic verge
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oh

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i see where i messed up now

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i put a dragon fly instead of the lowly insect

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i found a gaseous sentience

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whatever that is

prime inlet
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get close to it

scenic verge
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yeah i got a freq

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it gave me 230 nanites

prime inlet
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not bad

scenic verge
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take 2

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so is the living ship glyph the same for everyone?

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looks like everyone makes a base here

prime inlet
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for the soul chamber/collecting souls stage, yes

scenic verge
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cordinate navigation is a major pain

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oh you were going the right way and you're still going in the same direction lemme switch things around for you

rancid bison
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Lore Question
why does ||the atlas|| want to ||reset the simulation||

tawdry mica
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Cause it’s dying and it’s a call for help, if I remember correctly. It’s trying to fix an error it cannot fix

wintry sparrow
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I had to make a hard decision in the story with ||artemis|| :(

halcyon osprey
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how did it go buddy?

wintry sparrow
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I want to cry. ||I ended Artemis's suffering||

crisp fern
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||you erased an advanced voicemail, not necessarily a person, if that helps?||

gilded iron
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just got the galaxy center in survival

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i wanna get all of the milestones on this save then start a permadeath game

jovial stag
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if you did Permadeath first you'd have been given the Survival ones as well once you reach the centre

last anchor
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Artemis is just code inside of code but if he is real in the NMS universe what makes him real in ours

wintry sparrow
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Oh God. Oh God. The mission ||16/16||

native holly
#

So I got Remembrance, what's next?

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Got a Star Seed as well

grizzled kiln
native holly
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How many more do I need to get

grizzled kiln
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I think 6 or 5

jovial stag
native holly
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Huh

jovial stag
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if you have the Star Seed then Atlas Path = Completed

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if you have Remembrance then Artemis Path = Completed

native holly
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What does the Star Seed do anyway

jovial stag
native holly
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Ah

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Thought I could just create my own star

jovial stag
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well to be all technical ... finishing the Atlas Path gives you the ability if you choose to birth the star then you also get the Star Seed blueprint

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which when installed in the suit gives you an extra + (top left) if you also install the Remembrance you also get another + and I think if you place them next to each other you get a bonus +

native holly
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That's what I did

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So there's nothing else left for me to do story-wise?

jovial stag
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nope

native holly
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Damn

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Should have resetted the universe

jovial stag
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well unless you not done Dreams of the Deep

native holly
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Oh yeah I didn't finish that one

jovial stag
#

and all the base building stuff gains you blueprints for free but most folk now just buy them, then there's all the crafting blueprints to get from the Manufacturing Facilities so you can craft stuff like Fusion Ignitors and sell them for 14+ million units each

native holly
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Ah

wild iris
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anyone seen this

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was datamined in today's experimental

chilly drift
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Been datamined a long time ago, no ?

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it's only the icon that's new

limber scaffold
hybrid pendant
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@chilly drift kinda been datamined

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but we never knew if it was gonna be in the game

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just like turrets

chilly drift
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it's not confirmed 100%

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but there is a good chance it is

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Wonder how it's going to be integrated tho

hybrid pendant
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maybe it is already ?

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and no one tried yet?

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in experimental

chilly drift
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Maybe tangerine_think

wild iris
#

@chilly drift The icon is new as of today's patch so it sorta suggests to me that it's highly likely to be coming

chilly drift
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I'm more playing Ghost Of Tsushima and Cyberpunk lately, im not aware of everything happening ingame or experimental

wild iris
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i mean why would they add a new icon if they had no plans of adding the feature

chilly drift
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Yeah and Sean tweeting a lot + big experimental patch + 4 months no new updates = New update incoming

hybrid pendant
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a lot of stuff are in the files that never got into the game but this shows its probably gonna be in the game

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3 @chilly drift

rough copper
#

Hey guys, just a reminder that HG has added icons for things before that never got added. Not saying pets wont ever happen. I'm thinking of ambient mode. they added it to the game years ago, then added an icon for the mode select screen after NEXT came out... then nothing

hybrid pendant
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difference is ambient mode doesent do shit

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this does

rough copper
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What do you mean? It's a mode lol.

chilly drift
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What is ambient mode ?

rough copper
#

A mode where you are a camera that is infinitely moving forward on planets/ in space

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just observing

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if you like a certain place, you can press a button and it switches to creative mode

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"doesnt do shit"

hybrid pendant
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it short yeah

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its not meant for us players

rough copper
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Because they never released it? why they make a main menu icon?

hybrid pendant
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maybe because its for developer mode?

rough copper
#

Wouldn't it be called debug cam or something?

hybrid pendant
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check if everything is alright and not something fuckt up happening when ur in a party and terrain doesent really work

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if its not available for players its available for devs

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would be dumb if it wasnt also for hello games

rough copper
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ok Jordan

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I think it would be cool if they put in the bit of extra effort to make it a proper mode, lots of people would enjoy it.

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You ever try to access it with VR and save editor? It's pretty awesome. The only issues are that it messes up sometimes with the transitions, and theres just like two music tracks that loop.

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Why would HG add music to a dev tool?

chilly drift
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Ask the dev team

hybrid pendant
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they wont reply soo