Makes for an awesome photo op tho
#nms-spoilers
raw pecan
I'm actually extremely irked
one of the questline portals dropped me on this awesome paradise-with-bubbles world and I didn't have enough time/think to grab coordinates so it's just lost forever
ripe remnant
Anyways I only have the 16/16 and beyond the system mission
Can I use the void eggs or nah
rancid ether
hammer out 16/16 and the following mission then
you're nearly done
ripe remnant
I also have alot of secondary quests
rancid ether
without the 16 glyphs, you wont be able to use a portal
ripe remnant
I've been using the portal on my home planet to pick exotic ships
rancid ether
how many glyphs do you have unlocked
ripe remnant
All 16
rancid ether
oh, then youre good
ripe remnant
Took me 3 hours
I've been warping to the center instead of using a portal cause I'm grindy like that lol
rancid ether
yeah, i just powered through the main quest in a couple hours and gotthem that way, but whetever workls
ripe remnant
My ship can go by 30 systems or more at a time lol
I have a exotic that is basically on steroids
rancid ether
yeah, i used black holes when grinded to the center
ripe remnant
That helps too lol
rancid ether
gets tedious though
2500 range + BH every time
that was on pd though
and before origins. i wouldnt do it again
wind urchin
Did the first grind. Now portal to center (sunrise glyphs) and core warp. Starting the grind to every galaxy. Currently have bases on 1,2,3,8,9,10,256. Tomorrow 3 to 4 and on till I get tired.
vernal olive
I was hopping between Atlas Terminals today, and found a system that said it was first discovered 4 years ago... that was just a really neat feeling, stumbling across a relic of the first months of the game while going thru the story really made me feel more connected to the old lonely universe before multiplayer
silk light
The story hurts, it’s so good, but I feel so helpless, reality is ending, Artemis is dead, the atlas is dying, I am the last iteration, and all I can do is scan some damn rocks. I want to fix the atlas, I want to help Artemis, I want to not feel alone in the universe. But I sit in my giant base, in a crumbling galaxy, where I will not be happy until I scan that last rock, until I feed that last animal, until the atlas finally dies, I will continue to explore.
uncut harness
If the atlas dying is a test we find out in no mans sky 2 im gonna flip
Or we are the reset that saves the atlas and there fore saves the world
solid fulcrum
Although that 15 minutes the atlas says it has left is probably billions or trillions of years inside the simulation, it's been dying for a long time
ripe remnant
So if I go hunting at space stations and trading stations for S class should I save on that planet straight out the portal or save before I go and hop in
The reddit guide didn't specify so idk what to do tbh
ripe remnant
I probably shouldn't have posted my question here but I've been hunting for s class ships and I was wondering if y'all know if saving on a planet that's supposed to have a s class from r/nmscoordinateexchange will change my chances or not
cedar charm
nope, no effect one way or the other.
Saving at specific spots is only a thing when you're trying to find a specific multi tool.
ripe remnant
Ok lol my xbox makes teleporting take 5 minutes each time and wondered if this can cut time or not
cedar charm
yeah you can save on the other side of the portal, no problem.
ripe remnant
One good thing about the new xbox is that nms takes like 2 seconds to warp, had a friend show me lol
wind urchin
Doesn’t seem like the right place to post this but seems like a mini spoiler. Got a friend who went to Calypso after finishing whatever quest sends you to new galaxy. Built a couple of bases. The exploring in multiplayer to five or six other galaxies for 5 weeks or so. Went to teleporter and bases in Calypso are gone. Just not there. I multiplayered in to his game a few weeks ago and built a base and it is still there. Any ideas?
vernal olive
Following up on that post I made yesterday:
thebassdragon, I hope you're still out there exploring the cosmos!
@wind urchin I think there's a max number of bases/stations/etc that the teleporter menu can hold and anything older than that falls off the list? You could help your bud get back to Calypso by going to your base there and then having him join your game, tho.
rancid ether
I have yet to determine the max number of bases shown. Currently at 56 bases, and all show up.
Regarding the Calypso issue, if they didnt claim the spot, i dont think it counts as a base. Also, if they renamed it, the custom name might not appear right away
willow stirrup
I've found the custom names don't appear until you teleport back to the renamed base
wind urchin
Thanks!
gentle hedge
Does anything change as you get closer to the core or is it all still equally randomized?
upper badger
its same
wind panther
In my experience and from what I've heard, planets become more extreme and weird as you get closer to the center. This is completely anecdotal, but systems in the core seen to be full of crazy planets and systems on the rim seem to be pretty dull.
raw pecan
that's likely entirely by dint of "more people tend to head towards the core than the rim", tbh
more worlds seen = more likely to have the crazy ones reported
idle jay
That
fervent eagle
None of the halloween stuff will go away, will it?
I haven't been able to get on to grind out the currency to get the stuff
raw pecan
as far as anyone knows the only thing that's temporary is "quicksilver from freighters" while HG comes up with a better long-term method of getting it
but I don't know that anyone's gotten 100% confirmation on it
idle jay
It's just the quicksilver yeah. Everything else from the update is staying
uncut plaza
yoyo, have a question that contains spoilers, is here the place?
or should I put it in help and use spoiler marks instead
upper badger
wat question
uncut plaza
So after finishing the game I got tossed to another galaxy, right. I went back to my old base to get some stuffs, and now I want to find that galaxy again, I didnt note the galaxy name, how do I find it?
Googled it and I used a space station, so one of my space stations should be in the new galaxy if I understand correctly?
fair bone
yah it will say what galaxy it is in if u arent in that galaxy, on the teleporter list, it should be like station ___ (whatver galaxy it is in)
uncut plaza
yeah im pretty sure ive lost that space station then, I cannot find it
But I can get back to a lush galaxy through another player, right?
upper badger
I can taxi u to my lush galaxy if u want @uncut plaza
join my frend code, am here rn
upper badger
no, just join my game am just afk
shy void
So, im nearing the end. I will have to pick a Galaxy soon. What type of Galaxy do you guys suggest?
uncut harness
Red one
willow stirrup
||Green is Lush, more paradise planets; Red is harsh, more nasty planets; Dark Blue is Dead, more weird planets; Teal is Normal, like Euclid - For yellow star systems only||
tidal axle
Is it me or the game starts getting really creepy towards the ending
rancid ether
oh, you mean how null is basically begging you to stop?
rancid ether
oh oops, i thought you were talking about something else hah
apparently there are more weird planets closer to center though.
not sure if any data substantiates that claim
uncut harness
Null did what you do at the end hahahaha you are null
rancid ether
Well, I mean, you did what you had to do.
thin shell
how do we even know resetting doesn't just delay the issue
I feel like I need to replay the story to truly understand it but nobody has time for that
rancid ether
the story doesnt take long to get through. the extended lore however...still working on it
wind panther
I don't think we can have any data to really prove one way or the other on the idea that closer = stranger or more extreme. That generation algorithm is locked up in the exe. I think it's true, but it's just anecdotal evidence
raw pecan
I'd honestly be interested in finding that out one way or the other because I really believe it's just weighted towards "that's where people go"
silk light
My theory are all travelers are the same entity, you, just in different iterations, reborn after every death, or after every atlas reset, and because the walls of the different realities are becoming thinner, you can talk with some of these other iterations
wind panther
"where people go" wouldn't change the weighting of what an individual encounters in the different extremes. If there was some database that recorded cool planets and mapped them, that would definitely favor the core no matter what the generation is, I agree.
raw pecan
it wouldn't change weighting, no, but if the majority of people are heading for the core, any statistics of "X happens near the core more than the rim" has to take that into account-- and even more than that, people generally aren't going to be tracking "how many of what planet type I saw and how far from the core I was when I saw it" with enough regularity to get any sort of reasonable statistical sampling for it
I will say that I don't doubt there's increased regularity of stranger/extreme planets if you look at them on a star type/inhabited vs uninhabited system basis, and we already know that there's a mechanic that explicitly makes your starting planets/systems "less extreme", to the point that other people can go to your planet and see storm crystals and cyclones while you're seeing "a slightly warm breeze"
but all that really says is "people will start seeing more weird/extreme things as they progress further in the game", not "towards the core" per se
if you started someone up with a fresh game who'd never played before and said "ignore all the stuff telling you to go to the core, head for the rim", they'd probably come back in a week and say the exact same thing of "wow I started seeing weirder stuff as I went out towards the rim"
eager plover
ripe remnant
So if I reach the center of the galaxy will I lose my units and nanites
prime inlet
no
no progress is lost, apart from having to fix damaged slots/techs/mods on your exosuit
ripe remnant
I'm fine with that lol
ripe remnant
So at the atlas room thing I reset it and I chose to reset another galaxy with no reward did I do something wrong
Well I found out I can buy void eggs
jovial stag
did you get the option to birth a new star? and did you?
ripe remnant
In the hallway behind the atlas with colored orbs?
cedar charm
@ripe remnant the only reward (from the first time) for resetting the atlas is Remembrance. Did that unlock for you? its a suit tech upgrade.
cedar charm
then you have the reward. Other than that its just access to a new galaxy.
Heart of the Sun is obtained from the Atlas path. Did you finish those?
ripe remnant
What do I do with void eggs cause I was given 2 randomly at the anomaly and was told to save them until the end
cedar charm
To hatch 'em, just have one in your inventory (I'm not sure if it works with 2, I wouldn't risk it - put the other one in a storage container, not a ship or freighter inventory) and pulse around in your ship. You'll get a new quest. Long one.
ripe remnant
It also showed a icon for ships following another ship but I accidentally skipped it lol
cedar charm
yep that's kinda it. You have to talk to the ship that shows up when you pulse with it in inventory.
that starts the quest
ripe remnant
I thought it had something to do with in the trailer when they all followed the player ship into space
silk light
So does anyone want to discuss the existential crisis that you can’t help but feel when completing the story? You meant nothing, nothing you do has meaning, existence is ending, and nothing you do has eternal value
bleak dawn
Kinda like real life, but with more jet packs
magic thunder
lmao
rancid ether
@silk light my favorite part still is:
...T R A V E L E R...
Did my worlds please you?
silk light
@rancid ether that is my favorite too, the only time in the entire game you don’t feel alone, and left behind, but truthfully cared for by something
rancid ether
Oh, thats interesting. I took it as mockery from Atlas, but I can see your perspective on it as well. @silk light
haughty quarry
I interpret it as genuine curiosity from the Atlas
silk light
@rancid ether it’s like you’re the atlases favorite creation, the only thing with true sentience. All it had created, is for you. I choose to believe that long ago, before it was dying, before the gek first spawn, before the sentinels became aggressive, there was a perfect universe, without glitches, without violence, that the atlas made for you, and as your iterations live and explore and eventually die, the resetting of the atlas eventually brought glitches and other horrors into the universe we know today, but the atlas still made it all for you, the player, and genuinely hoped you like it (all my interpretation/hope)
rancid ether
Oh then yeah, so you are Null basically
Having a purpose to explore the worlds that you will never be able to fully complete, so you decide to tear it all down because the Atlas can no longer hold it together.
crisp fern
but if you go metameta you can fully complete it in a certain sense (due to limited number of world variants/biomes/etc.)
thin shell
Yeah thats what null did. he said he explored literally every planet
mighty rampart
then Atlas was like "ok but what about these 255 other galaxies tho? within each of these 256 universes? bro sit down be humble"
thinking about it, was this a meta joke by HG
crisp fern
the game is all one big metajoke about completionists
mighty rampart
And joking about how bad their game is
silk light
They said it would take 5000 ish years to visit every world
And that’s to visit
Not explore
raven elk
I think all the atlas stuff is a cover up for the secret Gek empire that they control via smells
fallen warren
weekend missions back yet?
wind panther
Nope
echo ridge
@tame spoke I kinda feel that way about RL recently.
willow stirrup
Need a lift elsewhere @tame spoke?
tame spoke
Na I’m good just portal and black hole hopping
sly bobcat
what is up with the creepy rock monster that scares the shit out of me every time it pops out?
tame spoke
probably Crack Cocaine
uncut harness
Finished the story today. I have to say, it was one of the most beautiful and existential endings I've seen in a video game for a long time, and the journey on the way to it was absolutely unforgettable. Although I'm far from done, I have to say that this game is one of the best I've ever played, and it's conclusion was absolutely brilliant.
And no, I didn't reset the simulation.
rancid ether
@uncut harness Time to explore all the extended lore at the boundary failures and remembrance terminals.
wind panther
@uncut harness And the new Archive terminals and if you get the chance, go lookup Waking Titan
uncut harness
So I haven't spoiled myself too hard on the story, if I am trying to unlock/do everything I'd want to be able to do in the game, what order should I "finish" the story in
ocean crag
You don't lose out on anything by going with one or the other so it's really up to you. Personally I'd say the Artemis Path up to a certain point then the Atlas Path, but don't neglect the Expanding the Base sidequest, the Scientist terminal you get there unlocks things that you can't get with salvaged data.
uncut harness
@ocean crag Thanks will do
real sapphire
Any other archive building shorter than this? 
uncut harness
Wait till they dont load the building till your 2 seconds from hitting
real sapphire
well its fully load, i can tell you
Dead Mega Exotic planet o_O
Planet type: Forsaken Planet
bleak dawn
trying to do the dreams of the deep quest finally and i dont think im on the same planet anymore i started the mission, is there anyways to reset the quest?
ahh nvm it just let me continue on this planet
dreamy dust
Sooo nns has me thrown rn.
Trying to get my second LS and I get to the site and there is a B class fighter in place of the host?
small gulch
Next Week
craggy halo
@real sapphire seen it
silk light
@dreamy dust save your game, then reload, it’ll be fixed.
raw pecan
yeah that happens all the time, especially if you're doing a lot of checking
I actually love it, it means I don't have to check that spot to see what the real crashed ship is later lol
gloomy kiln
wise phoenix
how does one warp to the center of the galaxy
prime inlet
@wise phoenix please see <#nms-questions message>
wise phoenix
thanks!
wise phoenix
i see
prime inlet
basically, you can't "free explore+warp"
on the first screenshot
i selected the gateway system
then simply aim/move the mouse towards the galactic core path line
you will see the yellow half circle
and the "Select" circle on the right side of the pic
when the select circle appears, simply hold the left mouse button
until it fills up/moves camera to the core (second screenshot), then simply hold the warp button again to warp the core.
wise phoenix
@prime inlet ive been going for quite some time
is it supposed to be an entire trip from multiple systems, or can it be a straight tp from one place to the other
bc rn this is what seems to be the end system
and this is how far i am
ope
nvm
theres a portal :)
wind urchin
Has anyone actually done a core warp using Oculus Rift S?
tribal quarry
So I'm playing on PC and received an update that was about 4.5Gb... is this the Next Gen update a day early? I've stayed up to date since the Halloween update
Just seeing if anyone else has encountered something similar!
silent lake
What version is it reporting? I think the update is 3.10.
sand karma
Has anyone actually done a core warp using Oculus Rift S?
@wind urchin nope. Though using the galactic map in VR is awkward in general.
timid mist
@tribal quarry it's not live on PC so it was maybe some random Steam thing or an older update that you didn't have for some reason
for reference you can check here for updates to branches on Steam, "Internal" is only accessible to Hello Games. Public and experimental haven't been updated for 2 weeks.
https://steamdb.info/app/275850/depots/
tribal quarry
@timid mist Gotcha! Strange... It says I'm running 3.10.65359 and the update was about 4.5Gb... Also possibly worth noting that I'm playing with the Xbox Gamepass for PC!
timid mist
oh that is interesting, are you on the Xbox insider build by chance?
tribal quarry
I am not!
timid mist
I guess it's possible it's on there earlier than Steam, though it could also just be the Xbox versioning doesnt' have parity with how they number them elsewhere
tribal quarry
I pay for the standard game pass and use the Microsoft store... I'm not sure if Xbox insider would also be included in that? 😬😬😬
Gotcha!
timid mist
I actually don't think it matters anymore, it only mattered when it wasn't technically on Gamepass yet and you could access it early on the testing channel.
tribal quarry
I was happily surprised but also confused lol
timid mist
I'm gonna install it via gamepass now and check it out
tribal quarry
Yeah I'd be curious if others are getting the same thing!
timid mist
I'll let you know soon!
tribal quarry
Sweet! Thank you!
timid mist
Looks like the same version for me, gonna see if I can notice any differences I guess lol
@tribal quarry yep it's live on PC gamepass
cross checked some stuff with patch notes and it matches up
tribal quarry
Whoop whoooop!
idle token
Indeed.
nocturne zephyr
i really hope HG does a ps5 psvr patch soon after launch.
mental socket
@timid mist How about bases online? Do they load up faster?
And is the fog now fancy and volumetric?
uncut harness
@timid mist How would you rate the visual difference? 1 being exactly the same 10 being drastically different
timid mist
Uhh probably like a 6 or 7
It's not drastically different in the sense that it looks kinda similar, it just overall feels fuller and more like the "complete" version of what the game should be when you're on a planet
that coupled with the performance improvements makes it really good
nocturne zephyr
noice.
timid mist
I think the performance part is really what surprised me though
Like this might be drastic but it was on the level of surprise that Origins gave me lol. Not being able to outrun the grass generation for the first time since launch was a really weird and surreal feeling
and having it not tank my performance was even weirder
My biggest worry is how much FOMO this will translate to for people on ps4/xbone, I have no idea what sort of parity it'll have with some of those optimizations
native vortex
spolers
idle jay
I'm interested in seeing how the framerate is affected on my laptop
timid mist
I don't know if the optimizations span that much but it would be really nice
uncut harness
Awesome! Appreciate it @timid mist
timid mist
anytime!
crisp fern
Like this might be drastic but it was on the level of surprise that Origins gave me lol. Not being able to outrun the grass generation for the first time since launch was a really weird and surreal feeling
@timid mist weird moment when the older version handled grass better than newer version
rocky ginkgo
Aw man leave some jaw line for the rest of us @uncut harness
timid mist
I'd guess it's just due to the increase in graphical fidelity @crisp fern but I had always had problems with grass pop in anyways. First time I haven't is with this update
fair bone
is next gen out?
fair bone
bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
rocky ginkgo
Ask yourself what will come first the ps upgrade or my s class freighter
mental socket
@timid mist so what are the most noticable "improved volumetrics" there?
And can you still outrun the generation of bigger assets like trees and rocks?
timid mist
Yes, though I did see a rock or two pop in on the planets with really dense rocks lol
Idk about improved volumetrics, I see it in the top of the patch note post but nothing about it in the actual patch notes so I wouldn't know what to compare
uncut harness
@rocky ginkgo 
loud comet
Lore question, is the player character an AI within the simulation, or are we our own organic entity exploring the simulation created by the atlas?
crisp fern
we don't know
that is, the narrative doesn't bother to clarify that in any solid terms, so it's up to how you wish to read it
loud comet
How do you interpret it?
crisp fern
it's both, the PC is an AI entity generated from scanning an organic entity and placed within Atlas sim, but even the original "organic" entity scanned was itself an AI entity generated by the simulation they were in, so...Yeah.
uncut harness
What
loud comet
So is PC an organic being then?
crisp fern
The trick is it's all simulations
So yes but no
Organic insofar as you recognize simulated organics, I guess
The important thing is, no one knows what NMS' base reality looks like, so the load of simulations may as well be reality
glass flare
simulated recognizes simulated
crystal holly
im at the point where there is 16 minutes left of everything or something : (
prime inlet
..in an alien timescale
crystal holly
someone help
I got the option to either finish the rest of the atlas or I could explore the galaxy, if I reset the atlas, do I lose my save file?
uncut harness
Can you provide a screenshot of these options? Are you talking about the mission New Beginnings in the missison log?
crystal holly
hybrid pendant
@wind panther 🤗 might need ur help lol
uncut harness
Nothing will get deleted. When confronting the final Atlas interface, you are given 2 choices: reset the simulation which will transport you to a new galaxy or refuse the atlas, in which you will be put on some random ass planet in your current galaxy.
Reseting the simulation will let you travel to the next lush / harsh / dead / normal galaxy easier
But the same can be done by travelling to each next galaxy's center
uncut harness
Doubtful
Even if you go to the next galaxy, you can return to your base in previous galaxy via teleporters
Those work between galaxies
As for gameplay, both options will reward you with Rememberance - a unique suit upgrade that grants you +1 health (those + icons below shield bar)
crystal holly
can I just do it via the glaxy map?
uncut harness
Do what? Go back to your base? Yeah, if you're in range
crystal holly
ait, well thx for the help person*, I appreciate it : )
uncut harness
@hybrid pendant Any idea what those items are refering to? AGT, Amino, Cafe, UFT?
Player communities?
winter grail
AGT is player community, yes
i have one of their systems in my list since i went for the Hawkeye fighter in there
uncut harness
Welp, mystery solved
Now this is Epic
To be acknowledged in a game and get your own banner
crystal holly
loud comet
So i was reading the wiki plot summary, and it says this: " The Atlas resets, upon which it creates a new galaxy, as well as creating another new Traveller entity to restart the exploration, but it is revealed this has happened many times before, each time shortening the life of the Atlas. The Atlas tries to see into the future, past its death, but sees nothing, besides the hand of its creator on its glass casing. The current Traveller is released, free to explore on its own, while from the player's view, they are placed in control of this new Traveller, effectively restarting the game"
is that accurate? seemed to me like you stay the same traveler, just sent to a new galaxy
uncut harness
It did happen before, the first time you meet Nada he / she / it asks "Is it first, is it last?"
Not sure about the "new player traveller" thingy
mighty rampart
SPECIALHOUDINI
interesting reference
and yeah it's really cool they're adding more banners of player hubs, really shows how much they do care about the community
wind panther
@hybrid pendant still 4am here. I'm going back to bed, but I'll start combing through what I can tomorrow :)
Nice finds already I see
wind panther
No I mean your stuff up above :)
hybrid pendant
oh ok
fair bone
yay we are getting the spiky pentacube thing
raw pecan
is that accurate? seemed to me like you stay the same traveler, just sent to a new galaxy
I mean it's kind of an open question what level of difference there is between "you the player" and "the traveller you're controlling", since the recurring conceit is that it's all simulations all the way down-- it seems like a given that your traveller would retain memory from galaxy swaps given that quest state etc tracks over, but it's not explicitly stated anywhere either
odd garden
We did originally start off with no memory on an unknown world. Slowly found out the ship, and some buildings and structures were built by 'you' in a prior reset. The reset 'we' do is possibly nearing the Atlas's true end so maybe we are literally sent into the reset. We need more lore.
haughty quarry
We need a continuation of _ Adventures in No Man's Sky_
odd garden
The comics? For sure .
crisp fern
Slowly found out the ship, and some buildings and structures were built by 'you' in a prior reset.
@odd gardenhmm?
odd garden
@crisp fern the beginning quest, those messages and what not. They seemed to have been left by a previous 'you ' interaction. Like the ship responding to us. It may be Artemis's, but I think its ours.
crisp fern
yeah but the structures part is what has me going
fierce sonnet
New Quicksilver items added 😁
crisp fern
smh, instead of exploration rewards they continue with that junk
hybrid pendant
please tell that to people i talk yesterday asking for base parts @crisp fern
timid mist
It's easy for them to add so it's really not a big deal to add them while they work on other things lol
It's not like they're making new models for this , these were new things introduced with origins. Acting like it somehow takes time away from other things is silly
umbral skiff
I never have the heart to keep Artemis alive in a nested simulation. Is there any documentation of the dialogues that take place if you don't let her rest in peace?
I wanna know what I miss everytime I kill Artemis.
timid mist
Basically they just get happy and then if you tell them the truth they get upset and don't speak to you anymore
There's more to it than that but that's the gist lol
umbral skiff
Lol I read on some source that they end up discovering the true nature of the sim anyway, and go insane? That would be awful.
timid mist
Yeah I always tell them the truth
umbral skiff
I choose to never upload them to the Korvax simulation in the first place.
timid mist
That's probably the better idea honestly lol
I just can never bring myself to kill them
umbral skiff
For me, it's the other way round. Artemis' whole existence was to explore and to meet other Travellers... To be stuck on a single star system, unable to ever meet the player character, Apollo, Nada, etc... Nope, just can't do it.
The game reeeaaally hits hard with the moral decisions and the existential crisis.
A question that I never got the answer to is how the heck did the ATLAS manage to fall into a black hole on the higher plane of reality? What would be the odds of that? Unless of course, the ATLAS is powered by something like this: https://youtu.be/ulCdoCfw-bY
That would indeed explain a lot.
crisp fern
@timid mist it's less that it takes time away from other things and more that it's just continuing what i find to be a gross retention mechanic
Which it is a retention mechanic, whether or not you agree with assessing it as gross; since for a bunch of folks it becomes the only thing to come back to play the game for.
timid mist
Sure but it's 100% ignorable is my point
Like it affects nothing in the game and on my new save I haven't done any QS missions whatsoever and have never felt like I'm missing out
It's totally fine to not like it obviously but saying "instead of" just doesn't make sense to me
crisp fern
okay. i meant it but i wasn't really giving it the how to phrase to sound better pass in my head as i imagined the, "not a fan of this" would be sufficiently clear
I'm just tired of grindy crap being thrown in to extend the treadmill for folks and shallow crap being thrown in to expand the breadth of what remains pretty close to a puddle where exploration is concerned
timid mist
I guess it's just up to personal belief then, cause I don't believe they add these things to "expand the breadth". I think it's just that they built a mechanic a long time ago to let them take any props and make them available for people to build and it's trivial for them to add more props when they are made so they do it because why not
Like if you don't honestly think that it's taking away development time from other things somehow then I just really don't understand the argument aside from being spiteful, which is totally fine cause I have that attitude towards a lot of things in other games lol
and for reference my attitude towards the new props is complete indifference because I don't bother unlocking them at all anymore, but it doesn't annoy me that they're added
nocturne zephyr
would be more fun to unlock them by scanning them in the wild or something
timid mist
that would be cooler for sure
nocturne zephyr
maybe, sorta like how Starlink Battle For Atlas makes you scan fauna multiple times to learn all about them, you'd need to scan a certain flora/fauna a few times on a planet to unlock.
timid mist
yeah like digimon games the way you capture new digimon is just by encountering them a lot. each time you encounter them you get more scan data and when it hits 100% you can use the data to convert it into a digimon
something like that for plants would be cool, though having them be useful for something other than decoration would be even better
nocturne zephyr
grow fruits
kinda surprised trees don't have produce tbh
at this point
would be interesting to 'pop' those honeycomb things off trees. though we do have those new environmental assets where you can collect honey.
halcyon vapor
I wish we got to meet Artemis
crisp fern
I guess it's just up to personal belief then, cause I don't believe they add these things to "expand the breadth".
@timid mist to be clearer, i was talking two different things by that point. The quicksilver junk isn't what I was referring to when I mentioned expanding the breadth of things. I was referring to the light touches to exploration, like new biomes that operate essentially the same as old ones, new flora/minerals/fauna that are still just there for harvesting/scanning and views but not much else.
I wouldn't go on about this if they hadn't seemed interested in something resembling a lively ecosystem, but they did, and that's still not really there in much besides the occasional predator tackling prey.
Nothing seems particularly unique or adapted to any world, even more so after Origins, so it's just 🤷♀️
timid mist
I disagree in terms of Origins, I feel like it improved a lot of the feel of exploration to me. But the idea of things feeling more interconnected or deep I feel is just always going to be there given the nature of how they've generated things. I went on a long rant about this a while ago and I don't want to type it up again but I just personally feel like it'll never be as deep as some people really want it to be, and I've been happier with the game since settling on that idea
Not that people should "suck it up" or something, I just don't see it changing and I think people should take that into consideration
Like everything is one layer deep, all interactions are a single dialogue sequence with either a reward or a mission step advancement applied afterwards. I would love more things like puzzles and interconnected interactions but they've never been in the game so I don't personally expect them to ever be introduced
nocturne zephyr
would be a strange time to introduce puzzles, though they would've been nice
crisp fern
Well, what I mean with it feeling worse after Origins regarding things not feeling unique or adapted to worlds is that they literally just threw up their arms and tossed things previously exclusive to some worlds to just about any world
Even if you're unwilling to deepen the game, and insist on just broadening it, don't then drain away or shrink what little depth or breadth there is by reusing stuff in super obvious ways by tossing it out to old biomes
That's been one of the perpetual problems with the game since its release tbh. At first next to nothing except biome specific ground textures/flora were exclusive, everything else could appear just about anywhere, fauna/POIs/etc.
Later updates intro'd some more star system specific resources to improve this, removed or left POIs away from some biomes, etc.
Nevertheless, they've continued to struggle with how to distribute things and how to channel one's travels through the stars, to the point that it almost feels like they've given up in certain respects.
brittle kettle
Is it worth it to create your own star with Atlas questline
odd garden
@brittle kettle it allows travel to another galaxy, 'worth it' is up to you.
brittle kettle
Are there any benefits?
odd garden
Some galaxies have certain biomes more than others . Dead worlds, lush, harsh, etc
odd garden
Yup!
odd garden
Other than tech repair
brittle kettle
How do i know if im in for example the lush galaxy
odd garden
The wiki, and referencing the galaxy name is the easiest way to find that out.
Calypso is a harsh galaxy, Essentiem (?) Is a lush one, Hilbert is dead i think, they follow a numerical set list.
odd garden
Yeah thats the first lush galaxy you can 'reset' in. Lush are typically paradise or tropical worlds so they are easy to survive . Im personally a fan of harsh worlds so best is subjective.
brittle kettle
Yeah i had one with storm
Damn i love it
A lot of water
So it gave me kamino vibes
I might build there
thin shell
to answer your question @lusty aspen putting her to rest is what I did and it seemed like a good choice
i heard if you put her in the simulation she figures it out and goes crazy and doesn't talk to you anymore
or you can tell her shes in one and she still goes crazy
yeah i think its a lot more interesting sounding if you actually play it but i'm just repeating what someone else said so idk
raw pecan
yeah I've laid them to rest each time, but I've read the dialogue from later and it does sound like your traveller makes some plot-relevant realizations if you keep them in and lie through to the end
bleak musk
When you know how the Korvax were enslaved as the gek’s miners, then you see a korvax system that is prospering with prospecting..
umbral skiff
yeah I've laid them to rest each time, but I've read the dialogue from later and it does sound like your traveller makes some plot-relevant realizations if you keep them in and lie through to the end
@raw pecan any link to the dialogue? would love to read it.
uncut harness
@bleak musk IIRC Korvas weren't miners. Gek hunted / slaved Korvax to get the rare metals from their bodies / chases / casings / however it's called. They stripped them down for materials like some junk.
wind panther
I think they did both. I think I remember them being used as forced labor, too, maybe in the archives content
bleak dawn
He wants to go full daft punk
umbral skiff
how did Polo and Nada meet again?
@prime inlet Polo asked too many questions, got posted to a remote transmission facility. Detected an anomalous crash with a single Korvax signature on board...
This always gives me the chills.
prime inlet
🙇♂️
umbral skiff
NMS really messes with you >_> damn I love the lore.
prime inlet
yes
you will be rewarded the Star seed exosuit tech blueprint, and the ability to see systems with black holes identified in the galaxy map
silk light
What if you dont do this? Is there a way to get the Star seed?
prime inlet
there is no other way to get star seed
walking away does reward the ability to see black holes, but does not reward star seed.
brittle kettle
and is going to another galaxy worth it?
cuz i see that you lose everything
or is that not true?
dapper wedge
From what I've gathered....that maybe that used to be true and isn't true now? That you can still portal back to your old galaxy
i'll let someone who knows more answer more definitively
brittle kettle
ahh
i think im just gonna jump in it xD
we'll see
ah nvm
i tought the atlas end brought you to that
but i guess it didnt
prime inlet
no
what brings you to that choice is the artemis path
but to clarify
player no longer looses access to previously visited galaxies
as teleporting between them is allowed
differences between galaxies mainly concern biome weighting, and in the case of harsh galaxies, the higher frequency of extreme survival planets
uncut harness
Its rumoured that is them
Therea 255 galaxys
You get random depending on how you play
Red one i hear is fun
eternal remnant
I went for green
craggy halo
Wiat 225 galaxies, and each galaxy has how many planets?
eternal remnant
too many
craggy halo
Well I thought it was 5 galaxies and like a 1 quadrillion planets total
Idk if it's per galaxy tho
eternal remnant
minecraft is about the size of neptune
idle jay
Did a calculation and every galaxy should have about 70.5 quadrillion planets each
idle jay
Tbf the milky isn't the largest of the bunch. Euclid is literally close to the size of IC 1101
Which is the biggest known galaxy in the universe
Wait scratch that
Regardless Euclid is about 1.6 million light years in diameter which is a pretty big size
craggy halo
So physically impossible to explore
idle jay
Yes. Unless you're immortal of course and have a way of playing for that long 🙂
uncut harness
Still a better perspective than retirement
craggy halo
It would take the human population over 2 billion seconds to explore the whole thing, if we explored 1 planet a second
Aka 66 years
crisp fern
technically, but practically speaking you can explore it all in anywhere from a week to a month depending on how much you play
craggy halo
16 quintillion planets?
In a month?
You'll be lucky to explore a million
It would take you 507 billion years to explore the whole game, if you spent 1 second per planet
craggy halo
Also that's assuming you can visit each planet in a second
I'd give you a good few minutes, tops between visiting planets
uncut harness
the milky way only has 100billion, real life sucks :(
@lusty aspen isnt it 400 billion
Also 1.6 ly isnt far thats tiny
Closest system to ours is 5.2ly
Errm
Thats a little off
Wait i was going by star count not system
Thats stars
And considered as many planets maybe more
I would think theres five times as many planets then stars
Ok moving on as we dont know the true answer
How great is no mans sky
crisp fern
@craggy halo there's a difference between technically and practically that I'm emphasizing. Technically you're correct, practically speaking though, these worlds aren't sufficiently distinct to support the technical point (imo anyway).
safe egret
uncut harness
there are approximately 100-400 billion planets
@lusty aspen There are over 18 quintillion planets total, so divide it by 355
idle jay
They were referencing the total in the Milky Way. I did the math (18 quintillion divided by 255) and got about 70.5 quadrillion planets per galaxy in the game
idle jay
Yes my bad. Thought we didn't really count that one
uncut harness
Oh, these ones, I remember those
Thought someting new was found
Thanks nonetheless
hybrid pendant
thoise are the new sets
its 6 sets in total for the next 6 weeks or more soo
those will probably the december qukcislver stuff too
compact coyote
we think the NMS universe is HUGE and dont get me wrong, it really is. but in NMS theres 256 galaxies, in real life there are TRILLIONS of galaxies. but there are quintillions of planets in NMS as well so its really cool to think about
devout sedge
thing is though... irl there is 700 quintillion planets in the universe
the universe is only ~39X bigger than NMS
so if sean duct taped 39 copies of nms together he could say its bigger than the universe
idle jay
y e s
dreamy pagoda
observable universe
arctic dock
@devout sedge The human race does not know how big outer space or the universe really is, it's all theories upon theories and in the general picture what we can see is really small compared to what is really
devout sedge
...its called a joke.
arctic dock
Bottom line we do not know anything and probably will not know maybe we will discover another little pinch another thousand years from now but right now you can play scientists as much as you want the greatest scientists in the world hardly know anything so of course not you but keep it up maybe you will discover something big you will grow
devout sedge
its literally just a joke
dear god
i just used the top result from when i googled how many planets are in the universe
arctic dock
I understood total explaining to you so that you have more general knowledge about the things that the human race really is more even though we may not know much about space but the human race is really advanced in terms of what is on Earth
devout sedge
it was just a frickin joke i made using the top google results
arctic dock
I understood total explaining to you so that you have more general knowledge about the things that the human race really is more even though we may not know much about space but the human race is really advanced in terms of what is on Earth
@arctic dock just read the first line
uncut harness
Yup
If you have enough storage (and insanity), you can technically make minecraft larger than NMS by creating a frick ton of worlds
Although, you'd probably need like, 500TB for that
Considering how many you'd have to make
uncut harness
I feel like that’d be more than 500tb ahah
Enter the Neptuniverse: Blocks 'n Burning Storage Devices
5 million petabytes 
So, if the NMS Universe really is all a simulation, that technically means that things like crashes, exploits, and glitchs are canon, and since it's implied there's like, millions of timelines, that means that, somewhere, somehow...
There exists a reality where Polo duplicated Wiring Looms and sold so many of them that he proceeded to crash the economy, then went to a nearby system and bought like, 6 exotic ships. So basically: he was balling really hard
Parallel Universes are such a fun thing
real sapphire
i wonder, how rare are gravitational storms? i have yet to see one since Origins released
uncut harness
I think they only appear on exotic worlds
real sapphire
wont happen in megaexotic?
compact coyote
we have an idea of whats out there but we dont really know.. there could be galaxies filled with planets that are beyond comprehension, there could be galaxies that have a different color of space and not black
karmic coyote
If you want to build a base in every galaxy: cyan
If you want less combat: lush
If you want more: harsh
uncut harness
how does cyan allow you to make bases everywhere?
uncut harness
karmic coyote
As long as you have a base ||you can still teleport back||
uncut harness
i have a base in euclid
karmic coyote
Yeah, you can get back, the game isn't heartless. But build a base in where you wind up.
uncut harness
cyan is "norm" galaxy
karmic coyote
Yup, and number 2
uncut harness
what do you mean number 2
karmic coyote
There are 256 galaxies
uncut harness
like 2nd biggest
karmic coyote
Nope, sequence
uncut harness
what does that mean
karmic coyote
To get to where the cyan galaxy is if you do not pick cyan, you need to travel across 257 galaxies
karmic coyote
exactly
uncut harness
thanks G
uncut harness
@robust moat that was the first spawn empire and that was dissolved and essentially the workers keeping it up now make up the Gek and their descendants that were tweaked by the Korvax
robust moat
is there like, a larger story written somewher by HG? like a proper lore?
i'd love to read it, helps with immersion a lot
uncut harness
I mean there's alot of bits and pieces everywhere
You can find alot of the things online
jolly raven
Ok im at this point of story mode, have some questions does my progress gonna be lost if im reach galaxy center?
and same if im gonna ansver this question its gfonna be final decision?
ocean crag
@jolly raven No, completing the story with either choice or going through the galactic center does not wipe your progress.
jolly raven
thanks
jolly raven
yes i want to know where to get remembrance i found room in one of the bases behind lvl 3 atlass pass with some halograhpics and things witch need remembrance to activate it @uncut harness
vagrant summit
ok wait so if you go to the center what happens? do you just go to some random galaxy and keep all your things? or is it like dying where your inv is wiped but nothing else
prime inlet
@jolly raven remembrance is given at the end of the artemis path, but the player gets it no matter what the player decides to do at the end.
@uncut harness remembrance allows the player to access game lore terminals, in addition to adding 1 health point to the player char. star seed, afaik, only adds 1 health point to the player char.
@vagrant summit "going to the centre" isn't what allows you to "just go to some random galaxy". it's not random at all. warping the galactic core will respawn the player in the next galaxy in the list of 255 galaxies.
there's no progress loss in either of those cases (through the artemis path, or through warping a galactic core)
but any tech or upgrade mods, installed in the general inventories (be it exosuit, or the currently equipped ship or multitool), will get damaged and will need repairing.
real oracle
Has anyone figured out why the aliens in the system you start from won't talk to you?
dire dagger
they're being racist
real oracle
oh. lol
wind panther
Because you mentioned 16 to them
In one of the first quests you are told to ask around about 16 and the people you ask will never talk to you again
real oracle
Ohhhhh. Kind of like how the Korvax reduce standing when you mention Atlas to them
jolly raven
whoaaa this is what i call The Trading Centre
haughty quarry
That is an Archive, an uncommon structure used by races to store vast stores of data
ionic sundial
speaking of which... what do you actually do at them? they seem pointless
sinful saddle
congratulations, you have stumbled onto the problem with NMS
big cool stuff with nothing to do
prime inlet
i'm into game lore, so i like visiting them
then there's also the artifact exchange terminals
and the landing pads, useful for when you want to be in a trading post, but not actually in a trading post
dreamy pagoda
you can trade in relics for a chance at upgrading them, buy a bunch of different components used in technologies (and with a decent stock of each), access the regular trading post, visit the vault for some lore, talk to an envoy.
and buy a random location to visit for 15 nanites
hallow flame
So I'm at the end of the game given the three choices. If I choose explore the galaxy do I miss out on the "endings"?
And if so, I want to move forward. Which should I choose and what do I lose when doing so?
uncut harness
hi
can soemone explain the 3 endings on nms
i went into the hilbert dimension
torn lichen
Three?
There are three endings? 😅
- Reset the universe...
- Refuse to reset the universe and make your way to the center, by yourself...
- ?
@uncut harness
opaque elm
So it the big secret of the game that ... ||They're in a computer simulation and that they're now aware they are and they realize they're in a video game||
crisp fern
@opaque elm big secret is they're in a sim but the bigger secret is that it's a sim in a sim and the ontology of existence is unclear
opaque elm
Can we talk again about how horrible this ship is again (and input on min specs for a purchase if you're rolling in the 10's of millions.
dreamy pagoda
the whole frigate recruiting phase is a bad experience
opaque elm
I can't even find my main freighter half the time.
I go there once every few days max, it's so rough
not only do I have to fix everything myself but I can't even telecommute to send missions
Somehow the 'future' in space is more backwards than 1870s earth
they can call me to tell me stuff's busted, but, that's it
real oracle
||I posted this theory in a youtube comment but I think that the Creator is you and the Atlas is your save file. When you go to delete a save, it takes a while for that confirmation circle to fill. For you it's only a few seconds, to the Atlas it's 16 minutes, and to the denizens of the galaxy it's millions of years.||
||Each new iteration is a new save file.||
opaque elm
This game oscillates between a lovecraftian horror and just some brutal history with the three races
crisp fern
@opaque elm tbh i'd send some of that feedback HG's way. I feel like they've barely touched frigates since they introduced them and they could use a number of improvements, even just in terms of QOL
opaque elm
IS there a clean way to do that or do they monitor the discord
opaque elm
ty, will do
So an Icy world doesn't count as a Frozen world... when I take a picture. these picture missions are nothing but glitchy
dark relic
Has it ever been revealed that devs did anything like in terraria with "unique world gen seeds" or something like that where they have custom planets with unique features or easter eggs that have not been left up to the games random generation?
opaque elm
So what jams me up is when they want a pic on a 'Frozen' planet, they don't mean the Biome, they mean the literal description it seems
idle jay
@uncut harness These gifs aren't related to the channels you posted them in
uncut harness
The sith made me do it
robust moat
so I just had all 16 glyphs collected and got warped to see atlas. he asked me if I want to reset and I said no. now I have a quest 'New beginnings' telling me to 'enjoy reality while it lasts'
that's it? I finished the game?
prime inlet
you've finished the Artemis path yes
technically, there's no end to NMS
(it's a sandbox kinda game)
robust moat
yeah, I get that you can hang around, but there's no more... 'final objective' to work towards
so... two questions: can I still 'reset' the thing (he said I could change my mind). how?
prime inlet
well, there's an end, but you can basically continue playing for as long as you want
@robust moat go through a galactic core
to reset the sim into the next galaxy on the list
robust moat
so just keep taking black holes until I get to the center
gotcha
and... how do I finally get to use portals with an address of my choosing?
uncut harness
When you find out the whole thing is a simulation
real oracle
I really like that concept. And general stories of questioning the nature of reality
||The "holy shit I am an avatar of the Atlas" revelation during the Atlas path quest was amazing||
fair bone
sorry atlas has smooth brain no thanks
umbral skiff
One of the best dialogues of the ATLAS.
The travellers are in the same plane of existence as the ATLAS itself. (?)
The only ones with "choice", yet none of it matters. All choices meaningless.
I absolutely love the existential crisis inducing story of this game.
real oracle
I mean. When you think about it, that applies to us too. If we don't erase ourselves through conflict, the inevitable expansion of the sun as it dies will.
Ultimately, life IS pointless in the grand scheme of things. There's no reason to be. It just....is.
What makes human life so important is what we choose to do with what limited time we have.
Oops my Nietzsche is showing
idle jay
There is actually a channel for this if you're interested
real oracle
Oh?
topaz elk
I mean. When you think about it, that applies to us too. If we don't erase ourse...
We are the Universe experiencing itself.
real oracle
"Today a young Gek on Geknip realized all matter is energy reduced to a slow vibration; that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather!"
--Bill Hicks, maybe
topaz elk
That's awesome
idle jay
Oh?
Yeah it's a channel where you can talk philosophy and stuff. There's others there who like to go into these deeper kind of conversations
real oracle
Awesome. Sign me up
topaz elk
I'd like to check it out
topaz elk
What's the name of it?
real oracle
I don't see anything new
umbral skiff
May I have access too?
umbral skiff
Thanks!
idle jay
👍
errant star
||test||
errant star
can you jump to another galaxy after finishing the game
like I already did the center stuff the first time
was wondering about the other galaxies
ocean wyvern
Yeah you have to travel to the center after that
errant star
I went there but nothing happened
ocean wyvern
There's a specific way to enter the center and transfer galaxies; pinned in #nms-questions
Idk why it wouldn't work
bronze tusk
Okay so when the Atlas asks whether I want to die right now, what happens if I say yes/no?
anyone?
bronze tusk
okay
rancid ether
Yeah, this game's great for those with decision anxiety. Theres not a lot of consequence for choosing one answer over another
bronze tusk
what color should I choose to enter a lush galaxy?
heady wyvern
Green.
bronze tusk
okay thanks!
minor arch
emeril drive right?
reef robin
i went through a black hole expecting something major to happen but the only things that happened was one of my ships tech got damaged.
heady wyvern
Yep.
And now you've been flung clear across the galaxy.
But you're a bit closer to the core now.
reef robin
ohh thast neat
heady wyvern
emeril drive right?
Elaborate?
reef robin
im tryna collect the glyphs for the living ship quest
rancid ether
im tryna collect the glyphs for the living ship quest
You can get those from Artemis path missions or finding random traveller graves
trim robin
My NMS tip of the day, and it only took about 1,000 hrs of game time to figure out. I always thought that you needed the V1 Atlas pass for V1 items, V2 for V2 doors and V3 for V3 doors, taking up three inventory slots in Exosuit. Turns out all you need is the V3 Atlas pass. It opens all three. 🤯 I got two inventory slots back.
crisp fern
for what it's worth, it wasn't always that way, so you carryin' some legacy knowledge there too, lol
rancid ether
@trim robin similarly, the indium drive covers green and red stars too, if you werent aware of that.
bronze tusk
wait so only the tech in your primary starship and primary multitool gets damaged? so I should just switch both to a secondary ship/tool that I dont use anyway before going to a new galaxy?
idle jay
Yes
heady wyvern
wait so only the tech in your primary starship and primary multitool gets damage...
That's the strat, yes.
bronze tusk
good thing I got a save to go back to after realizing this hehe
heady wyvern
For people who like to explore the latter galaxies, this is a very valuable piece of info.
bronze tusk
but the tech in your general exosuit will be damaged no matter what?
heady wyvern
Yep. Move the more expensive pieces to your tech inventory before you go.
bronze tusk
can I now "cheat" the system by having bases/portals in both galaxies to freely move back and forth?
idle jay
Yes
bronze tusk
thats incredible
sinful ember
roughly how far into the game can you access the anomaly? thinking of starting another file
rancid ether
Its the second mission in the main story
trim robin
@bronze tusk I have a ship designed for traveling through black holes and to new galaxies, only installed tech in tech inventory slots, I use a small multitool that I never repair, unfortunately the Exosuit tech takes a big hit because my Exosuit is maxed out. So I stock up on parts (wireling looms and stuff) in my freighter before I jump to a new galaxy and call in freighter to repair the Exosuit.
@rancid ether I did know about the indium hyperdrive working for all systems. Do you know if they build on each other for distance like the freighter ones?
rancid ether
They do, but its a very small boost overall, i think total of 30 ly
prime inlet
is New Beginnings one of the primary missions right now?
that would confirm the completion of the main storyline, the Artemis path.
@bitter tangle ^
bitter tangle
that would confirm the completion of the main storyline, the Artemis path.
I did the artemis met apollo and null said 16 a few times to atlas
he said he was gonna extermiante the universe in 16 minutes
prime inlet
is New Beginnings one of the primary missions right now?
then you're done with the artemis path
devout sedge
woo! finished starbirth, never again lel
tawny jolt
@devout sedge that’s a lot of ferrit nice job
devout sedge
i ran into some pirates after getting it lel
devout sedge
the living ship
warped tide
I feel like NMS is too big.
It's been out for what, 4 years? The odds of someone stumbling across a planet in Eissentam where I named a small creature 'Marsh Mallow' are pretty non-existant 😦
devout sedge
yes, that is true, but if it does happen itd be pretty funny
pallid stump
Did the travelers cause the sentinels to rebel against the Atlas somehow or is their rebellion just another symptom of its breakdown?
uncut harness
If NMS did actually have a Final Boss, Hacker from Cyberchase would be a really good candidate, seeing as he's already managed to take over a Universe run by a dying Supercomputer thingy once
acoustic torrent
So is there any reason to continue going in the other galaxy? Instead of camping out in the starting galaxy where my main base is?
I mean I get it has a different planet type distribution
But beyond that any advtantages?
crisp fern
Did the travelers cause the sentinels to rebel against the Atlas somehow or is t...
seemingly symptom of system degradation
crisp fern
But beyond that any advtantages?
fewer already discovered worlds
robust moat
that's it as fast as main story goes, correct?
crisp fern
Depends, done the true main story yet?
acoustic torrent
Without getting too much into story spoilers or specifics, what is the general thing I need to do to access the post ||reset the simulation|| story content?
slow yacht
||Talk to the Atlas and reset the simulation I think||
acoustic torrent
I mean I did that, ||got to a different galaxy||. Now what?
slow yacht
Tbh I don’t know
acoustic torrent
I know there are some mysterious terminals on some stations that require the rememberence "equipment" whose blueprint I got from that last step
slow yacht
I haven’t played since before the exomec update so if things have changed about the post end game I would have no knowledge
crisp fern
I know there are some mysterious terminals on some stations that require the rem...
you'd need that, but also the Atlas Pass v3, if memory serves. Beyond that, anything you missed during the main story paths would also technically kinda be post-path story content
reef robin
once you finish the story and reset the simulation or whatever, can u still like do anomaly missions and other things? sorry if this seems like a silly question but the way the game makes it seems like everything is ending, i wanna make sure im not gonna like lose everything
acoustic torrent
I mean eventually we will lose a large chunk of content when the servers shut down in the (hopefully) distant future
reef robin
not quite sure what u mean by that lol
acoustic torrent
And even further then that in entirety when the game no longer gets updates and stops working on yet to be newer machines
But in terms of save file ||no, you do not lose your progress or bases from the story quests||
reef robin
okay good, just wanted to stop putting that part of the story off in fear that i would lose progress and stuff
like ik that a large chunk of tech stuff gets broken but as long as i can still like..play the game its just fine
acoustic torrent
When you get to a big event (you'll know it when you reach it), make sure to drop a base before going back to your main base.
reef robin
noted
also,
im at the part of the starbirth quest where i need to find fallen travellers for the soul chamber, and so i went to this person's base where the coordiantes were for the first one, and there was no grave or anything nearby (idk if this should go in help or spoilers, but ill paste it in help if thats where i should put this)
crisp fern
I mean _eventually_ we will lose a large chunk of content when the servers shut ...
no we won't tho. it's not an always online game. at worst you lose others' bases & discoveries & Nexus missions, but given the game is about exploration the first two aren't a major loss and so long as they eventually offer a different way to get quicksilver, or quicksilver items, neither is the latter
indigo sequoia
im at the mission new beginnings and im lookin at the four colored galaxies to pick but uh what happens when i pick one?
rancid ether
It plops you into a new galaxy
indigo sequoia
do i have to do that?
do i get anythin for doin that i mean
or is it aight if i refuse him
indigo sequoia
cool cuz i got bases i wanna keep
rancid ether
Oh you wont lose any of your bases
indigo sequoia
oh aight
rancid ether
yeah, it sounds way more daunting than it is.
Ah crap, its a little late to tell you this
switch to your worst multitool if you have a spare.
pallid stump
How badly does your multitool get damaged when you switch galaxies?
rancid ether
100% badly
i forgot this was spoilers channel
rancid ether
I was having multitool anxiety until i switched galaxies and it broke my main one.
Finally moved over to the S class i hadnt built instead of the A class i was maining.
slow yacht
They are the three races. The Gek, Korvax, and Vykeen
tidal axle
Ah, that makes sense
uncut harness
So... any cool new datamining findings?, i'm pretty out of the loop atm
wind urchin
I just found out you can increase your freighter inventory slots
silent lake
Bulkheads? I just found that out myself, today. None of my Frigates have ever brought me one though - so I guess I need to go get them myself.
prime inlet
finally!! Meteor shower storm! 😄 in a lush planet, of all places. got hit by a couple.
prime inlet
pretty cool actually - but yeah, they look small
going to stick around this planet a bit, see if i can get some more shots
pallid stump
You can also get struck by lightning as I almost found out the hard way.
prime inlet
that i've been many times
uncut harness
Hey I found a imminent cord detonation planet does this actually mean the planet will detonate?
ocean wyvern
No
uncut harness
Ok cool =)
crisp fern
at least, not yet 
uncut harness
ugh I still haven't found one of those 😭
anyone know what kind of system they are in? would be much appreciated
assuming it's kind of like a radioactive planet?
fallen bluff
its volcanic iirc
prime inlet
@uncut harness see, Prime > Lava <#nms-questions message>
uncut harness
yo'
is there any way
that appol lives
or did he die beacuse of my chocies
because i htink appol died
when i wnet into teh protal
loud widget
Appol?
crisp fern
Apollo
loud widget
Lol yea I figured, long way off though 😅
wind urchin
Manufacturing facilities
uncut harness
spoiler, completing the game finishes the main story
twilit jetty
what do i do here? i activated every except the last one.. idk what i need
mental socket
activate the last one and let it play
warped tide
at least, not yet <:seanbomination:532636740154818571>
in 16 minutes ...
warped tide
activate the last one and let it play
after touching all the outsides you use the center console with your heart of the sun
warped tide
how do you get teh atlas psss btw
buy the green starcharts that lead to depots/factories, raid the factory, choose 'learn new recipe', there's a new tree that lets you learn trade item recipes and other stuff
also you can still learn the Oxygen Cell recipe in that tree, but don't do it, the item was removed and trying to learn it will just eat your factory credit without giving you anything
mental socket
@warped tide I know. I'm not the one who asked for help xD I finished the story years ago
warped tide
yeah the Discord reply button has horrible positioning
robust moat
i really dont get it
travellers are meant out to be these ... special somethings
but i dont see how or what part of the lore i'm any different than any other npc in the game
like, what exactly makes travellers special?
mental socket
travellers can create things in the universe, change it, understand the pattern and all that. They are the replica of ATLAS' creator or something
warped tide
i imagine it's like Tron... Travellers are 'users' inside the Atlas simulation
all the other NPC's are just simulation constructs
maybe we're like Artemis, we were once alive IRL and our soul was transferred into the Atlas simulation
real oracle
My theory is that the travellers are modeled after the Creator, but are given intelligence and "life" through conduit to the Atlas. In other words, Travellers are the Atlas itself viewing its own creation. And its own death.
(Atlas: >fondly regard creation)
dire dagger
that theory would be right as story stuff leads to that conclusion in game
outer relic
Travelers are just the character the player plays as, but they happened to break the fourth wall and realize that they’re in a video game where everyone else is an NPC.
The “simulation” is just NMS the video game
The atlas is HG, trying to eliminate bugs in the code of the game
dire dagger
if you get the remembrance item and find the lore using that you get stories from the atlas of its creator, which you catch a glimpse of and it looks a lot like the player
soft umbra
yo just starting this game
wtf yall talm bout
also why am i in space forever my game wont start
outer relic
Uhh if you’re new you probably shouldn’t be in here
The in space forever thing is just the loading screen
But this channel is really for spoilers about the end of the game, so it’s not really the place for a new player
Try #nms-questions if you need more help
blissful kite
prime inlet
resetting the simulation (via artemis path) is the same thing as warping a galactic core
crisp fern
which is still 
imo but eh
daring sand
Read ahead
When it says at the end you can pick a new galaxy... what happens to everything made in previous ones?
crisp fern
remains
crisp fern
ya can use the same ol' teleporters, but if you want to revisit the galaxy you're currently in, you'll want to set up a base teleport there first
novel pine
I'm on the purge and i'm at the step where you go through black holes to learn glyphs
i was wondering since i discovered some already with traveller graves do i still have to keep doing it until it says 16/16 on the atlas sequence
crisp fern
🤔 you...don't have to go through black holes, unless they changed that...
But yeah you do have to warp 16 times for that whole part of it
crisp fern
yeah, just warp
For what it's worth, the narrative does kinda frame it weirdly, so if you thought you had to go to the actual centre, I understand why you were going for black holes
It's kind of annoying imo, as the achievements now recognize completing what you're doing as going through the centre, despite the fact you may be nowhere near it
novel pine
oh
crisp fern
they're representing different galaxy types to go to
uncut harness
is there a difference?
crisp fern
yeah, biome chances in yellow star systems
uncut harness
what one shouls i choose?
crisp fern
so one of those choices is like the one you're in, think that's balanced or somesuch.
Then harsh, more extreme hazards & the like.
Then dead/abandoned, more dead/weird planets.
Then lush, which is just more lush worlds.
uncut harness
hm
crisp fern
Choose whichever of those sounds more compelling/interesting i guess
uncut harness
is there a best one to choose?
crisp fern
Just depends on your preferences tbh
crisp fern
hmm it doesn't give a brief description before confirming?
crisp fern
as usual, lol
uncut harness
do i still have all of my glyphs and stuff?
crisp fern
yeah, you'll carry over your stuff
uncut harness
since its a new galaxy, what about my base?
uncut harness
how do i get back there?
uncut harness
?
crisp fern
to get back to the galaxy you've just gone to, you'll need a base there
uncut harness
space station??
crisp fern
Yeah, space station teleporter to revisit previous galaxy, but don't make that jump until you've set down a base in the new galaxy
otherwise to get back to it, you'll have to go the old school warp a bunch way
uncut harness
yeah but wont i be able to come back to this galaxy via space station?
crisp fern
You may be able to, but those stations get shuffled off the destination list, so it's not advisable to rely on that
uncut harness
gotcha
crisp fern
(And frankly, I don't know for sure that that works for intergalactic traversal)
The station to station teleporting method, that is
I know the base to station & vice versa teleporting setup does though
crisp fern
np
uncut harness
@crisp fern where do i use portal glyphs?
outer relic
At portals
ocean wyvern
not really a spoiler and therefore not really fitting for this channel
fathom notch
does "anomaly strength" on corrupted planets actually mean anything? or is it just a pseudorandom value
i've noticed it ticks up and changes depending on time
prime inlet
iirc, it signals how strong is the anomaly field generated by a/the closest (?) boundary failure building
in other words, how far away from it are you
warped tide
but it's not like a weather pattern that eats away at some hazard protection, like radiation or anything
fathom notch
i mean, ive noticed it'll just slowly tick up
prime inlet
try finding a boundary failure from the sky with your ship
then land close to it, and check the strength; moving away from it should decrease the field strength, from what i've heard
fathom notch
and down too, rn it's at -16 ish, during day it was 35
main rock
Something very wierd happened recently. I did the main storyline a while ago and in the part where it teleports you to a random 'glitch' planet for a short period of time I used the visor on some rocks before the breach was closed.
Then last week I was warping to random systems on my endless quest to scan things and came across a planet that looked identical to the glitchy one from the story. I landed, turned around, and realised I was less than 1000u away from a boundary failure portal thingy that was in exactly the same kind of crater as I remember... I then went to scan minerals but one was already scanned by me.
Is it possible to randomly stumble upon the planet from the storyline or am I just going crazy?
( o _ o)
rancid ether
@main rock You might not have noticed this, but the glitch planet you teleport to initially is the same planet you end up on afterward. I believe the implication is that 20 years have passed since that moment and the glitch has since been corrected.
main rock
Ooooh! I hadn't. That's actually much more disappointing than finding it in the galaxy months later, but still interesting. Haha
They coded that event so well. It's one of the most memorable parts of the game.
rancid ether
Same. I reflexively opened up the photo mode to figure out what to do.
Very surprising when I looked around
rancid ether
They coded that event so well. It's one of the most memorable parts of the game...
When I first arrived on the glitch planet, I opened up my Discoveries menu and it was all bugged up, like incredibly bugged up. I'm still not sure if teh bug was intended or not but it felt way more interesting to not know
main rock
She's happy now though! :D
Yep! My Artemis (sort of) thanked me for doing it though, which made me feel good.
main rock
When I first arrived on the glitch planet, I opened up my Discoveries menu and i...
For sure! I'm so used to scanning everything in sight the moment I step on a planet that it threw me even more haha
Were the stabilised glitches on that planet grab-able? I seem to have ended up with one of the funny pod things but can't remember when I got it.
:,(
rancid ether
I'll share a pic of what it looks like when it happened
It felt absolutely crazy when it happened
I was honestly unsure if it was intentional given teh context of the story at that point
Yeah, idk, it was very ...techno-Lovecraftian in a way (i dont know if thats a genre tbh)
Well, maybe more Frank Belknap than Lovecraft, but still
main rock
I think it's the lack of control that makes it so surreal. You can move around, but not really.
heady wyvern
It was always a "-of Light" planet for me, for some reason.
Light Fissure
Whatever you call it.
crisp fern
When I first arrived on the glitch planet, I opened up my Discoveries menu and i...
it's just a bug, unfortunately.
rancid ether
Yep, but it is consistent in my experience. Its happened in my last 3 playthroughs at that exact point.
I dont have the heart to make a bug report for it though
fathom notch
i do wonder what quicksilver actually is
like, past its ingame use as a special currency, what is it in-universe
idle jay
Some silver that's able to move quick
idle jay
😄
fathom notch
i do wonder what it is in-universe though
like nanites have an odd connection to the travellers and the boundaries breaking down
idle lodge
sick mesa
These tiny little Gek omg! I found a plaque and it says like “WE ARE THE MASTERS OF THE GALAXY!” “SUBMIT WITH A BENDED KNEE TO THE GEK DOMINION” like calm down before I punt you over a fence
Didn’t know if the plaque stuff was a spoiler so I put it here
dire dagger
It's a wonder that first spawn managed to do so much
fathom notch
i think the main problem is that the first spawn were like... largely unopposed
then the vy'keen whooped their ass and they realised they should probably instigate a religious civil war to destabilise them to shit so they wouldn't mess them around so much
and then they collapsed in on themselves like a house of cards because fascism isn't sustainable
if it wasn't the sacrifice of the korvax, it would have been internal conflict
crisp fern
...? the gek didn't stir up the vy'keen civil war, unless they added something that indicates that 🤔
fathom notch
maybe i overread somethin somewhere
crisp fern
Also was pretty sure the Sentinels & Korvax are what brought the First Spawn down
fathom notch
first spawn conspiracy, nal is the true leader of the vy'keen
yeah, they collapsed in on themselves because fascism isn't sustainable
consumption and attrition will only last until there are no more things to consume, and then entropy will take you out to dinner and show you around the town
dire dagger
Nal knew the truth lol
fathom notch
suppose it's like filling a vat of acid with you inside of it so you can mulch all the things in it, eventually the acid reaches you and eats you up too
i think i'm a follower of nal
i do wonder what culture the vy'keen have, ive always loved warrior and honourbound cultures
ceremonial knives, effigies, prayer trances, oh my!
and then for all intents and purposes the vy'keen live in a monotheocratic police state