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Foundation did a ton of changes to visuals, generation and terrain btw
Who is to say that Origins wouldn't be able to do more for example. They have more people at HG and their skills on NMS have most definitely improved over time
that's just the terrain and visual stuff. There was way more in foundation
i hope they do!
i just want less pop in/delay esp when jump boosting like a maniac
If on PS4 I doubt much can be done
pop-in was relatively fine on PS4 before they added tessellation
they should at least give an option to turn it off on consoles
so the mission changed from 16 to 24
what if that means that we have 24 minutes(?) left rather than 16 now?
someone/something trying to repair the Atlas?
what if origins is bringing multibiome planets
What if origins lets console players disable tessellation
what if origins brings customizable fingernails
Oh the gek know something about mowing down alright
i want faction wars π¦
Nuke the Gek from orbit
would be cool if we could take over space stations with force and then make the people there give us a cut of the profits they get.
Or just up the rep enough that they give you a cut
hey i want more stuff for us space pirates to do besides attack cargo pods and capital ships XD
I hope their focus is on those pillars. Finally got some better combat with desolation
Exploration finally?
So what is the Abyss?
We dunno yet, only that its signature seems to resemble the Atlas
Not really, it's a reality simulator, so if relating that to a deity works for you then sure
The tricky thing is, multiple civilizations in NMS' setting have created such reality simulations to understand existence.
In the process of doing so, for those simulations to accurately model reality, they too must eventually simulate civilizations that seek to understand existence and at some point possibly try to simulate existence.
The real fun part here is that there's no clear sense of just what base existence even is, presumably it resembles some of what's encountered in the game, but who knows how much of that existence is retained the further a simulation is nested
and the other fun question with that is, where's the top simulator?
like there must be some top-level universe and we can still have all the weird existential discussions about that one that we would if there weren't layers of simulation
IMO the reason the Abyss activity is increasing is directly related to the slow death of the machine that Atlas and the simulation(s) run on
the Atlas is starting to remind me an awful lot of Azathoth for the Cthulhu mythos
A lot of the themes in NMS are very lovecraftian in nature
I sorta think that's right Solar, but at the same time given my view of NMS' setting, I almost don't think it matters as much.
Like the thing the Atlas sim proved was that its creators were already in a simulation, hence its predictive efficacy. So even if the Atlas sim itself were endangered, there's a possibility that its host reality is completely fine, and in turn, whatever is simulating the host is fine.
So on some level, the Atlas may reemerge simply because another simulator produces it, and in turn the Atlas' simulation is preserved.
It just depends on how much overlap there is between the simulations, how much influence they have on each other, etc.
My brain fuckin hurts from thinking about all this π
Well the main problem for the machine the simulations run on is that radioactivity emitted from the black hole in that system is going to continue to degrade and corrupt memory in the system. This has I think resulted in the corrupted exotic worlds we see, worlds that started out normal but whose data was fried. But as the radioactivity and magnetic effects gets worse from proximity to the black hole, more systemic failures are going to occur, more corruptions of programs
Hmm, I wonder though...The simulator can't seem to simulate past its point of destruction, which makes some amount of sense, but would it not be capable of simulating similar events for other simulators and gain information from those to model its own destruction?
Or is the information loss too great to recover anything from sub-simulator destruction by black hole or otherwise?
I find it a tad unusual to imagine that there wouldn't be any other simulators getting destroyed by black hole, anyway
Hmm, Atlas is getting closer
What about the new boundary logs that were added this year
weird stuffs about atlas and telamon
What would it be able to simulate about a period after the black hole has consumed it?
wait when did we learn that Atlas is being consumed by a black hole?
Mm i think it was from the data terminals they added in Atlas Rises?
are those the ones in the Atlas-Pass-locked rooms?
yeah
ah ok the only thing I've seen from those is the one about the creators leaving and asking the Atlas if it wants to live
What would it be able to simulate about a period after the black hole has consumed it?
@glass flare Well, some revelation about what's left unclear at the end of the Remembrance terminals, for one
I just wish the wiki had more info about this
As I recall I believe it was always operated via server cluster, part of which may have been on satellite constellations, and yeah, at some point a part of that constellation was mucked up with
In season 2 there was some odd thing where part of the constellation got damaged by something and we helped try to recover it
I think that something may have been a solar flare, but I don't think it was ever made totally clear
Season 2 of the ARG was very much all over the place
I missed out on most of the ARG
I just saw the very last one and had no clue as to what the fuck was going on
For a recap there's this: https://wiki.gamedetectives.net/index.php?title=Waking_Titan
Well I think it was the last one
But I was only there for the NEXT trailer
So uh
What lore happened with this weekend mission?
Any hints or something?
cliffhanger basically
||Hesperus was right. The Ariadne at the Nexus is a fake.||
||Ariadne sus||
||Probably never went to Electrical.||
||did we kick her out, or what?||
why is there spoiler bars in a spoilers channel
right?
the point of the spoiler channel is spoilers
no mans sky doesnt have any avengers endgame level spoilers in it or anything anyways
no one would really be too upset if they got spoiled i feel like
maybe im wrong idk
maybe the datamining stuff though
id understand that
probably there should be a separate datamining channel, i've seen other game servers do that
or a leaks/datamining channel
greetings
Hmmm..... when did they add a name to the customization options? When you hover over them they show their name now.
2.6
Damn I need to read those notes slowly
Issue is, I'm usually hyped out by every line I read
Added hover text to all colour, texture and armour style options to the buttons in the customiser, allowing players to know ahead of time what option they are selecting.
@sullen hornet @glass flare #the-fall-chapter-2
Archived now
But when something pops up, you best believe people are on it
the crashed derelict freighter gives me hope for planetary dungeons
@mighty rampart
Thanks. Cant wait to read the Origins Notes :p
same!
I've been refreshing https://www.nomanssky.com/origins-update/
Hoping to catch the notes before thy upload a button to it lol. Although I doubt the would be that stupid
But then again AR notes were leaked a few hours before update went live so
When do you think the trailer will go live though?
I have a feeling either same day before release or a day or two before
i'm guessing Monday, maybe release on Tuesday
Hmm..... that's wishful thinking. Hopefully that's it
It WOULD give them a whole week to iron out bugs
What does everyone thing about the weekend missions?
Not a fan
I personally think that either they will announce S3 soon. Its definitely going to be a new season and not a continuation because Greg confirmed that this was the last one I believe
yep he's done with work for HG
@crisp fern yes I hate the mechanics of it. Just a long broken grind imo. And people often misuse bases
idk why but I feel like there won't be a S3
and are planning to have some other kind of weekly missions
They COULD introduce a new secondary storyline regarding what happens next in the Anomaly
But taht seems like a stretch
Would be difficult to incorporate
Greg is under some NDC's most likely. He only revealed that he worked in desolation as well when it released so we have no clue.
just rerun the first set of weekend missions 
seriously tho, w/o weekend missions the quicksilver rates are miserable unless you play literally every day, and even then it doesn't match up if memory serves
Yep
It's super slow with daily missions
This is a pretty big cliffhanger though. And idk if origins IS a major variation/ overhaul update then it doesn't tie much into the weekend mission story so I have no clue what this story is leading to.
Okay, it does go over weekend mission amount by 550, but that's only if you do literally every daily
Ha I rarely even do 1. My list is ALWAYS 3
They aren't fun either honestly. But much better than before
Like I often gave up on the bones mission
The new one is a bit too easy. Maybe change the rarity of bones rather than make it ANY bone
Tbh I don't like any of the mission board missions, station or Nexus, but at least the station missions don't gate content
Like some people are content with vendor trash & currency, but I expect more from missions personally
I wish we had Weeekedn missions or longer lasting community missions like the ED ones
I remember an event where everyone met up at one star?
Community missions π€’
Imagine corruption erupting at different coordinates across the galaxy, and people traveling manually to the nearest one to fix it
The portals dont work so everyone has to work a bit to get there
And maybe make some points combat missions (fighting the void?). Maybe some require scanning and observation.
lmao if you thought the Starbirth coordinate complaints were bad...
Oh shit no that was terrible
Making people manually warp however far away would be hilarious
My hands were cramped from holding the controller weirdly, zooming at coords at flying at the same time
On a DS4 nonetheless
seriously tho, w/o weekend missions the quicksilver rates are miserable unless you play literally every day, and even then it doesn't match up if memory serves
true, I mean that I feel we might be getting a different kind of weekly missions that won't be related to the cliffhanger of S2
I think the coordinate stuff could have been fine if they'd eased folks into it with other missions that used a similar-ish mechanic
Yeah I getcha Sohail, I could see something in the vein of season 1's missions again
Yea sort of a guide. And it was a one off thing too. No one really used it much in the main player base
I was only half-joking about rerunning the old weekend missions
What about the old missions? From pre beyond
Exploring changes in the universe?
If origins does a reset then that could tie up nicely
what all info has been left hanging in this last weekend mission?
one I know of is we don't know how these clones came up
What's left hanging is what to do know that we know who's the imposter
Last time I checked you cant eject people out the Anomaly lol
and was it the real or the imposter Ariadne who killed Tethys' friend?
Imposter ariadne
cool
Cause that death was after the crash I believe
And the imposter rose after the crash.
so somewhere down the line, Ariadne went to check what's going on since it had been months with these missions (S1) and crashed
then the imposter came back
Yup
Hesperus tried to simulate the abyss but failed, with a thousand korvax perishing in the process
Yes
I don't play Elite, but I think they've done community "missions" much better
I do play elite and the community really liked those missions
left with more questions than answers that may or may not be tackled in Origins
hmm
But I guess elite has a bit more "exploration" feel to its missions
like even as an outside observer i thought they were cool
elite's more of a pseudo-MMO than NMS too tho
because it offers the chance of one individual person to advance the story
If origins doesn't give an answer or a hint to the abyss' origin or plan then that's a bit if a let down imo
uh oh, here comes the Papaya-Orange war
@glass flare yea. The last event had sooooo many player diaries and entries coming in. It was pretty cool
or-an-gins
Jesus
i don't know what kind of fruit Jesus liked, aside from grapes
No Man's Sky:Oranges Update
-Added oranges to the game
-Replaced planets with oranges.
-Oranges now have a small chance to have tiny worms inside (Orange Worms).
-Removed all variety and replaced every color in game with orange.
Side note: imagine how cool it would be if we could have a deep scan mode (something like the Full Spectrum Scanner in elite) and could tune to frequencies to discover derelicts, rogue planets etc
Ahh sorta
derelicts would be a little OP if they made you scan for those for free
But I feel like this could have a real aspect of "finding" the space encounters rather than " oh yea I definitely didnt see it pop up there"
derelicts would be a little OP if they made you scan for those for free
@mighty rampart
Maybe make you need an update to your scanner to find those
Some S class upgrade or a very delicate readjustment of frequencies to find em
Ahhh I'm just glad they fixed this bug and I can finally play elite after spending 30 bucks on it
I literally could not play it for a year
What kinda loot do the derelicts leave
aside from the main two?
In this Ultimate guide to Derelict Freighters and Capital Freighter in No Man's Sky Desolation Update, we cover everything you need to know about Derelict Freighters including spawning, loot, consistencies and also all the new Capital freighter tech and changes to personal pla...
timestamped link, otherwise skip to 12:26
no wait this is better than watching - https://www.xainesworld.com/derelict-freighter-loot-tables-2-62/
he needs to manage the links in his site better
Based on the discussion in #nms-questions
Q: When/how do I use the coordinates for a living ship I found online or just find a nice living ship? (For your first living ship.)
A: After getting all the organs/parts (ie after gathering Traveller souls from graves and using those to make the final part), you will be directed to return through the portal. Once you return 'home' or wherever you came from, you should (before entering your ship):
1. If you're using an online source, dial the desired coordinates into your portal and go through. If not, you can just skip this step.
2. Make a manual save nearby with a save beacon or save point.
3. Get in your ship, where you will receive a message with the location of a crashed living ship.
4. Go to the given location, and if it's not the one you're looking for, reload the manual save you made. You can use the analysis visor to look at the ship stats so you don't have to go through the dialogue every time.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you get a desired ship (you're done!), or until you exhaust the system ship supply/want to try a different system (go to step 6 (coords-based) or 7 (jump/teleport-based)).
6. If you want to try a different system via coords, you can simply reload your manual save, enter the desired coords in the portal and go through, then go back to step 2.
7. If you want to try a different system via jumping or teleporting, you can reload your save and get in your ship, ignore and/or reject the message (it will continue to spam you until you accept it) and warp/teleport to another system. Then you may land on a planet/moon (ship pools are system-based, not planet-based), and go back to step 2.
Note: Sometimes during this process you will start getting regular ships at the crash site. If this occurs, close and restart your game, you should get living ships again (at least a few in a row until you have to restart the game again).
lmk if there are any problems with the formatting/content if you want to pin that @ discord mods
i'd suggest you include how to change systems
if one's trying to find models on their own and not via shared coords
Thanks π

how are are the base building parts from them?
from whom
Someone on Reddit suggested origins may bring factions hence the different colours which Sean did mention early in the game development - fighter ,explorer and trader
As well as variation
yeah expanded factions is one of the few missing "promises" from pre-launch
from Desolate Freighters
they're just decoration, pulled straight from the assets used in derelicts
though the heat radiator does function
and none of them require power for whatever reason
yeah but I still like to collect them
the factions Sean described pre-launch were very different conceptually. there wasn't originally an idea that factions = races. they were more like GTA gangs that controlled sections of the galaxy
I thought he meant player created factions
back then he was talking about NPC factions
erm
the weekend mission thinks i'm in a derelict freighter?
jetpack disabled
weird camera orientation
cant run up the hill, jetpack disabled wtf
lmao look how my character is standing
Yes please
It wouldn't even be an improbable chance of that happening. All it would take is a simple video upload
And from what we've heard it's like foundations 2 in a way
In terms of importance yes
Maybe in terms of size too
And unless they've made the decision to make all future update covers with artwork then there seems to be the possibility of it being a sizable update
I'd imagine it was made alongside the smaller update this year
Yeah. Could be possible that it's been worked on alongside with everything else this year. Starting with living ships
I'm trying not to get too hyped but I feel that this might be variety
Or have something to do with it
But it's just my gut feeling
I think it will be variety too but not in the way most people are thinking
this feels more like they're likely to improve colours and tweak existing biomes to have a few more assets
Yeah that's what I'm feeling too
Strike a mid ground between old generation and new generation maybe
and I feel that is not the main part of the update but something on the side
I have no idea what's their main goal here aside from wild speculation
If its the main part they definitely have big plans for variety
Big if
Oh I've turned whatever colour that is
So basically visions 2.0 π
Strike a mid ground between old generation and new generation maybe
@gloomy isle I think this is the most reasonable explanation. A middle ground of trying to polish what we've gotten so far and planting some seeds for new stuff.
Hope a trailer drops soon
@uncut harness visions added like... 6 water colors and a couple of new sky colors wasn't it
6 water colours
few more sky colours for most hazard biome planets
few more sky, grass and terrain colours for lush planets
If that's what it is, then I'm hoping they tackle snow planets and flora more than anything else π
same
I hope they bring back some cloudless planets
And planets with full cloud atmosphere
And colorful lifeless/empty/no atmosphere planets with interesting terrain
and assets
any speculation as to when the update will launch?
I speculate Thursday but I'm hoping for a Tuesday drop
the community mission is over btw
Wait what?
the lore
the writer who made the story said it was the last story he wrote so far
so origins is coming
very soon
I hope he wrote more for Origins. I love his work on NMS π
Yea I had a hard time going to sleep last night because of the update. lol
@zealous spindle I speculate the first half of the week
one of the possibilities imo without a universe reset
is using the super formulae in the abyss
That way they have time to release a few hotfixes
which is an alternate universe you can travel too
so just like how you can summon the nexus
you'd be able to summon a rift to enter / leave
but well
pretty curious to see what the update will be in truth π
Maybe if they open up rifts/tears in the universe that allow us to jump through to alternate dimension
There are many ways you'll travel through No Man's Sky's infinite galaxy. Here are five.
http://www.no-mans-sky.com/
No Man's Sky is a science-fiction game about exploration and survival in an infinite procedurally generated galaxy.
Music: Debutante by 65daysofstatic
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I know this is way out there but, what if we are going to have multiple universes using the boundary failures to get there..
1:38 og portals seemed to transport you into an alternate version of the planet
same animals fly around on the other side for example
interesting
Portals can't be used for this anymore but what about boundary failures or corruptions in the universe
that's what I was saying
or living freighters π
Living asteroids
If you Google no Man sky origins, there is a very old mod
For the game with same name

where?
This mod aims to restore the original vision of No man's sky.
I ve ported the original 1.0 biomes to Atlas Rises, and tweaked them to look like the pre-release footage.
I ve also packed some of my most recent mods from "Space Adventures".
Mod link : https://www.nexusmods.co...
lmao
any speculation as to when the update will launch?
@zealous spindle I think itβll be Tuesday because Weekend Missions actually get activated on Wednesdays (when NPCs disappear from the Nexus etc), and we are already out of missions on the current version
nice
Yeah, in fact when you look at the missions table in the game files, they always start and end on Wednesdays π€
indeed
This dude says planetary variety is confirmed and has insider info, what's his source? https://youtu.be/IdOpCADxcBI
prolly his own imagination
Need less people spinning misinformation and unsubstantiated rumours
The NMS YouTube "news" community always has been, and continues to be, fucking annoying.
There are only a couple of channels I actively follow
The second 4chan leak could still hold water tho
He's not lying, he has a 'source' that may or may not be right
Mac does tend to be wrong about some stuff
We will know in a couple days
I believe he has a friend that works at like IGN
Suuuuure
And my dad works for HG
My uncle works at Nintendo
Can't spell ignorance without IGN
I don't think it's right to claim all of the journalists at IGN are ignorant. some of them are
Some of them are good journalists
Just the truth
Edit edit edit
Brain no work
Some do
Some don't
i just don't really trust any leaks unless they get substantiated more
The most known tend to be the most hated/controversial
one person with insider info alone could entirely be right but its not enough for me to listen to
Yeah
Case and point, it's like IGN, do you even proofread
I could argue that some very popular books written by very popular writers have some very big typos
Every urine procedural
Typos just happen
that's also the third time in the last week that ive seen "wee"
one of them was an official government email
But just ignore Me, it's all good.
But anyways
Typos happen yes, but they shouldn't happen in professional publications, because it just lowers the bar and sets precedents
Leaks can be correct, but its usually very rare that they are
Like with the mario 3d all stars stuff
How do you mess that up
@gusty stream famous writers constantly 'mess up'
"I personally know Sean Murray"
as you know, i know the feeling zug π
famous writers constantly 'mess up'
Drafts exist
its just bias, someone doesn't like someone so theyre typos mean more
typos happen because shit happens
simple
True that
He sure was stuttering a bit about his 'source'
Cause he's unsure of himself
Hey guys. I uhh.... my internal source who works at umm.... Eurogamer. Well actually it was his friends cousin but like, it might be true. Just take my word for it. Like... he said there will be infinite variety and uhh... planetary physics
What if he turns out right?
Then I give him like
Planetary variety
Nothing too crazy...but Volcanoes sound iffy
oh no not the "he sounds like he's lying" haha
Real time fluid simulation for lava and water
Volcanoes are plausible as localisation text for 'hot rocks' were datamined
Sean felt that one
yup
is this about mac foraday?
Yez
look i don't buy it but i don't have to trash the guy to do it
@gusty stream ||https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Datamining#Misc||
so lets not do that
I don't doubt it because he sounds like he is lying but it just seems so weird and unlikely that "A friend of a friend who works at IGN" has some special insider information like that. Aren't there any NDAs and stuff. And HG doesn't usually give out any review copies of patches xD
He's just a no Man's sky player who's excited about the future of the game, let him speculate as we do here
And isn't it usually Eurogamer who gets to interview Sean for anything behind the scenes
Speculation is fine but unsubstantiated speculation is not
ppl do that here π
Speculation is nice but claiming to have inside source without proof is kinda annoying cuz it increases the hype
Which is why he says take this with a grain of salt basically
this channel is here to discuss information about datamined future stuff; story spoilers, not to hate on Youtubers
About that. When is someone going to update the outdated wiki for datamining
I think it's because HG are quick to remove unfinished aspects from being datamined in current builds
So any spoilers?
None
No one knows anything
Except for HG ofc
Can you imagine being Sean having to keep a lid on this until the right time
lol yeah must be difficult
all of us speculating, lol and he's there like NO
Any news?
!anythingnew in #bot-spam
Did I see Infinite Variety @mental socket
Guys that youtuber has lots of friends who like to tell him about NMS.
Must be legit.
So, the insider info is his source who has a friend who works for ign or something he can't remember...
That's... not what an insider is
no idea
@halcyon pebble yes
If Eurogamer posts anything NMS related tomorrow, it'll be legit
saw this on twitter
Sean has been hinting at something over the year indeed
Since Beyond
Origins, Next Gen, ... ?
Ship building would propel NMS....
I could care less about variety
significant, large, substantial, ambitious, longer term.
I want more plants and trees like forests
@halcyon pebble then you want variety
I could care less about variety
this must be it
Give us Shipbuilding please!
@mental socket I wouldn't put any qualifiers on its size beyond 'bigger than any other update since next'
I just want more damn plants on a planet and trees they could all look the same
Sean has been hinting at it for so long, update has own custom cover art similar to major cover arts, Sean used gib emoticon when announcing it, just like major patches
it will be bigger than desolation i think
We can hope Azure
Oh most definitely
desolation is my fav update of the year\
Major update can be smaller than beyond or next
Bigger than Desolation for sure
I also think leaks are unlikely, NMS is a small team
But no bigger than say NEXT, Beyond
You leak stuff, you've only got like, 12 people to choose from
well wasnt beyond larger than next??
If you think of Foundation, it was really meaty update compared to Desolation or any of the updates this year. It added actual gameplay mechanics and loops
and a lot of tweaks to generation, biome specific plants, minerals etc
I think patch notes/trailer will be out tomorrow, maybe on experiemental too
main release tues/weds
The entire loop relies on that very foundation
yeah, I would say 1. Next, 2.Beyond, 3. Atlas Rises
Beyond is biggest on technical level and amount of stuff. NEXT is biggest from visual standpoint
atlas rises was great
lets be honest we all want nms planets to look like in the 2014 e3 trailer
next also felt way bigger than beyond as it was radical style change. Graphical changes do a lot of difference
- Next 2. Atlas Rises 3. Beyond. for me
Too much in the way of realistic graphics/art style because "real is brown"
true, I miss the variation pre-Next
Yea. If we talk subjectively, NEXT was the biggest one but objectively it was Beyond
Watering down the aesthetic for mass appeal
For variety it all hangs on whether they do a reset. Can't see how they could do it without a reset. But they haven't requested saves for testing who knows if that's even on the cards. We know nothing lol
It can be done without a reset
maybe this is the update for variation??? and the variation pre-next
:c
I remember when flora/fauna desc on planet actually made a difference, I found planets pre-next that had zero fauna or flora, and sometimes neither, but still had atmosphere
Even tho a reset is desirable for me imo
@dreamy cypress How do you reckon they could do it without a reset? I thought the proc gen was all tied to the seed or something like that.
Dimension-hopping
^
I suppose that would be cool
It's perfectly possible, if mods such as Back to Foundations can pull it off for example
I was wondering if that was possible, they could just load a different algorithm for each realm/dimension/reality...
The only thing that might require a reset is if they make changes to the terrain algo
Which was hinted in the weekend missions and boundary failures
well we will see in a certain amount of days
I just want like a teaser trailer
like it could just be like beyond just the logo
New biomes may also require a reset, but in NEXT they substituted some dead planets for exotic biomes
lol they advertised beyond a whole lot
The fact we haven't had a big build up like Beyond probably means it's not on the scale, or maybe they don't want to build too much hype for some reason
Maybe they will reset only galaxies other than Euclid?
If they reset, I'd rather they reset the whole shebang
well have all the galaxies been visited?
This iteration has been getting stale for a while now
Yeah reset it all
Euclid is the absolute most popular galaxy for obvious reasons
But the others are much less visited
It doesn't matter how many galaxies have been visited if every planet looks generally the same
Yeah
well they dont have to reset galaxies if they have never been visited
it wouldn't touch the bases of the majority of players and finally give a reason to changing galaxies
Reset it, rebuilding my base gives me something extra to do
because currently it doesn't matter that much
Also role-playing through that would be fun
I don't mind a reset myself because my freighter is my base
Base building isn't the reason I play the game. Not bothered about it really.
@halcyon pebble Players have got to the final galaxy 255 https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Iousongola
is anyone there?
Yes, but it was only like a few people
hmm
Compared to the hundreds of thousands that play in Euclid
How many galaxies are there again?
I wish sean can share us stats from each galaxy, I remember he did talk about it once
yeah there is only like 13
255
i think there are 255
God damn
but at a point there were 256
255 because it's an 8 bit int
0 is unreachable and may be being used by HG for testing and development purposes
0
1 = euclid
No, just a hunch
mhm 255 neeeeeed more more galaxies
How do you calculate how many planets there are in NMS?
64 bit integer
I really wonder how will they do it
We still don't know if variation is actually a thing with this update
They definitely haven't given up on base building because the last patch added those derelict freighter furniture
Can there even be a galaxy 0?
No im mistaken
I don't even base build anymore
Base building can take a back seat for at least one development cycle
Galaxy 0 was a test galaxy
Yet some people have gotten there
So they removed it
HG are probably testing stuff there
LIVING BASE PARTS UPDATE HAHHA
Please Sean don't let this be base parts
lol imagine
I mean he did talk about sand worms at one point
They can't remove galaxies tho. They did "remove" galaxies past 255 with Atlas Rises but they are still accessible due to how the generation works
I was looking at the original poster sorry lol
There have been a lot of allusions to old builds pre-release/post-release in the weekend mission lore, and also in Sean's tweets
Yeah
Origins removes all the stuff that has been added since the beginning of the game but keeps the pop-ij issues
Iteration Mercury mentioned Soleth Prime in passing pre-briefing the weekend mission for 1st of February
The chemical symbol for Mercury is HG
HG = Hello Games
Mercury is also known as Quicksilver
woahhhhh
woaaaaaaaaaaaah
haven't he mentioned that ever since Beyond
Mercury mentioned it once during a weekend mission some several weeks ago
I forget which
Then you have the sandworm tweets
I have a MIGHTY NEED for this
woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Yes, they've been teasing us with stuff like this for a while now
wwoaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
At least since Crossplay?
lol
Like, yeah, the sand worm is cool. But daaaaamn look at how atmospheric that planet is. The clouds, the fog, the way the lighting looks. That's what we need.
Maybe some multiple biomes on the same planet...
i hope this update gives some new buildings
but even if it doesnt im fine with that
i'd like if they improved the buildings we have more tbh
its not the cape but a part of the scarf that's already in game
which I doubt will be in game but ymnk
@remote cobalt - The thing you posted in screenshots is called a Boundary Failure. They serve no purpose other than to provide game lore when interacting with the terminal.
The lore is worth a read as it gets very interesting, the more you read, the more things will make a little sense.
interesting, looks like something from Interstellar
I wonder what they will have in store for the game's 5 years
probably none
Well at least a lil event
The first 4chan leak was bs because it was based on a fan-made update idea
The second 4chan leak has been a little more credible so far
second?
What is the second one? Never saw it
idk about that one, sauce?
I didn't realise there was two
No Man's Sky Summer Update Details Leaked | Can This Be Trusted? | NMS 2020 Update Speculation News - In today's video I discuss a potential leak via 4Chan regarding what features are in the possible No Man's Sky Summer 2020 update.
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It's 4chan lol what do you expect
rest is just confirmation bias
The only thing they got right is crossplay
holy fuck its in a few days people pls hahahaa
eh this and that are different
if we did have a leak months ago which was down to a T then it would have been quite interesting
too bad both of them aren't
Getting harder and harder to wait now
β°
How does one see unlisted YT vids
Only if you have the URL
People always find hidden vids on playstation or xbox
channels
and didn't the exo mech vid leak?
Yeah getting hard to wait. I took a break after Desolation as it wasn't for me (still a good update though). Hoping for variation so I can start exploring again but not getting hyped about it.
I'm yet again hyped
@mental socket good point. It'd be worth a check
@uncut harness I believe he thinks it's real, but imo there's a good chance his source is bs
Plus Wednesday is a weird day to release it imo
It was discussed earlier that his 'source' is probably bs
Tomorrow or Tuesday so they can get a patch out by Friday
there are so many different pc configurations + edge cases with the different things possible in the game that there's no way they can find every bug pre-launch
What's this talk of Wednesday? And who's this Mac guy giving dates?
2020 version of my uncle works at Nintendo
Honestly I feel like be believes it
Obviously I don't believe it's true but I don't think he's being deliberately deceitful
You are correct
The volcanoes thing really makes it not believable
I'd like it but it's a big stretch
Sounds a bit like a kid Makin up features but time will tell
Most of the rest of what he says is pretty easy to guess anyway
It's got a good chance of being variety based (Ive not many people who think it isn't, and those who think it isn't seen to think its some sort of factions wars which I don't buy). But volcanoes is a big big stretch
New hazards would be nice though
Tornadoes that could throw you into the sky
Lightning storms
Stuff like that
How would a volcano even work?
They'd have to make the formation, which could be easy enough
But then the game would have to detect the terrain formation and make it do volcano stuff
Sounds like a complete nightmare
Yeah I don't think it's going to be faction stuff if there is a big focus on the players and the environment behind them in the cover
Otherwise they would've had something indicating that
The cover definitely has environments as a centerpiece
Exactly
I think people were reading into the different colours of the characters
the leaks all just sound like wishlists which makes them too dubious for me
Yeah that's essentially what they are. They're all the same basically and they're bound to get some stuff right
The cover might just be a visual roadmap.
May never get the flora in each biome in the art
As far as we know
But yeah I don't see the cover pointing towards anything but environments
And then maybe more customization options
I just want that cape/scarf tbh
@gloomy isle you can make a volcano prop instead and place it as a POI or something with the different effects to make it more like a live volcano
Maybe but that'll be hugely high poly
I'll leave the thonkin on how volcanoes could be possible to the devs
I'm sure there are many ways to make it work
doesn't have to be high poly
Nope
Honestly volcanic planets would be a better alternative
Lots of vents and mist
Rock pool shaped minerals
Hot water
And lava streams
Same
Same
They'll look neat when melee jetpacking
I don't think they would add them if they didn't
is basically a sheet of metal
they have a friend that has a friend
@crisp fern
Oh hell no
Dammit I hate these newstubers. Reporting small things and sometimes straight up lies for ad revenue
Can we be friends with friend's friends
They'll look neat when melee jetpacking
@nocturne zephyr catching on fire~
This high res version seems kinda difficult to dissect. In the original I swear I saw the grave of the ocean king in the top right, whereas elcas version makes it look like debris
Who lit my cape on fire 
It had a slightly smoothed/painterly style
what's the requirement on the weekend mission? I'm hearing it's messed up because of this freighter glitch
here's the mega upscaled version from reddit
is it something I can bring with me ahead of time?
the one on the right reminds me of the Beau Lamb concept art for geks https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/005/224/644/large/beau-lamb-tradervariants-1.jpg?1489448809
metal noses
I find it interesting there's 3 of them on the cover with one being a generic traveller head
as if it doesn't want you to focus much about them
aside from "looks cool, I might want this game"
ah yeah but that's just colour theory in action
is that each suit compliments the environment colors
@sand rapids
It actually contrasts with the terrain. Like yellow stands on a blue world whilst green stands on a yellow world
honestly the only thing in this that screams "new" is the third biome
everything else is the same
I'm interested in that color choice with the environment on the right. We haven't see any environments with a color combination like that aside from lush types sometimes having one of the two colors
looks kind of like it
It is
yes
isnt the right a totally new biome
inb4 purple and green grass.
but yeah its not something that totally gels with the living ships, colour wise
design wise they do as that egg thing looks too similar to the void egg
and of course there's a living ship flying on top of that area
not to mention the player character is a traveller in that
FiX cLoUdS
Likely artistic choice
posters always take too much creative liberties and doesn't match with the game
Would be nice if they implemented the ideas they convey in their art
Which is likely going to happen with certain parts of this
examples
Because you can only go so far in terms of creative liberties before the stuff going on actually indicates something
ahaha
giant diamond in sky when?
it is getting closer tho
Having an atmospheric Atlas would be cool
I like to be vague to generate ideas
π©
someone have access to beyond rq?
Like this for example
it is getting closer tho
missing here tho
interesting
Come to me, Atlas. Crash into my face
its in front of them
That Atlas is actually super close in Beyond
π
i just think that's cool that its getting closer and closer
cuz prerelease it was pretty far away
hmm actually I realised something
Next update has only the Atlas on the cover
we do have these trees
just super rare
have seen this style but in other colours
yeah true, it is closer. and the red eye is also masked, and Atlas itself looks very hazy. could be just more artistic choice, but I imagine Atlas is going to be closer to death in this update if there's narrative additions
One thing id like to see added that's in the cover art: the vines hanging from trees. Think if they could allow a procedural system for vines to stretch from tree to tree depending on how close they are. This would create a more wild, forested look.
or just at least add it to the tree asset
Then it would become too repetitive
Yeah it feels like the Atlas is just getting closer to death as each update goes on. It's now fading which could mean it is very close to death
I thought the beyond cover atlas looked broken, corrupted. It looked like it was screaming for help
Origins atlas looks like its vanishing or being over come by something, ir just super weak
Defjietly a design chouce imo
Aaaanf I JUST realised that half the image is tha atlas, it actually extends into the foreground now
Mixing of Realities/ new dimensions confirmed!1!1! 1!1
Origins Atlas is also bigger than any of the others
Thus closer imo
All the artistic covers
confirms my theory that we are time traveling back to before Atlas went berserk and killed all the civilizations
Can we have the release one too?
That was the furthest that the atlas ever was
confirms my theory that we are time traveling back to before Atlas went berserk and killed all the civilizations
@glass flare
What how
What if The Abyss is the real Atlas and the one we see now is an imposter?
I posted a larger version from the reddits if someone wants to see it
They'd used photoshop to scale it
Yep
What if the red sphere inside the Atlas is the child of the abyss @uncut harness
Who lit my cape on fire
@nocturne zephyr your jetpack did
I mean the diamond thing isn't atlas anyway technically speaking because its an "Atlas Interface" but your exosuit is also supposedly an Atlas thing
The original ps4 box art image and the others
@nocturne zephyr - That's a real theory. Better than mine.
Lol
i personally thing the faded atlas is just atmospheric effect
I mean the diamond thing isn't atlas anyway technically speaking because its an "Atlas Interface" but your exosuit is also supposedly an Atlas thing
@ocean wyvern
It's the manifestation if that atlas in the simulation
I like that first one the best
Thanks a lot!
I do hope for wearable capes/ accesories
@grizzled apex the angry red eye has always seemed to me as a visual way to represent the Atlas's corrupted state. so the lack of it on this art could represent some change to its behavior. I've just been toying with the idea that "origins" is literally going back to the origin of the simulation through some means, maybe we get sucked into the Abyss where this version is stored, i dunno
The one with 1 player character
@glass flare that's literally what I thought. An atlas free of corruption or maybe, just maybe, this is the abyss simulation (though a bit far fetched)
The abyss has the power to show us previous iterations of objects
So it wouldnt be surprising if it took us to a previous iteration if the simulation
Was it that the Abyss was showing previous iterations, or just alternate timelines? 
Bring me bAck to 1.1
I know this has been said many times already but with only big content updates having art done for it seems to hint towards the possible size
By Origins it could mean the Atlas ends up rebooting back to a previous uncorrupted state
@crisp fern
One of the Weekend missions had some text in which the abyss made the travellers see a previous version if the boundary failiure (as seenon Achaia V in pre release trailers)
also, each cover has those draped trees and huge rocks, so don't get hopes up for that kind of variation
i mean its hard with HG cuz its not unrealistic to think they're underselling to surprise people either haha
But it could still be smallish, and still be an overarching cover art illuding to the updates that follow @idle jay
That is true
Either way this update will be significant. Important just like Foundations
they did do something related to their painful release that no one else did and no one really expected so they've kinda just gone from there xD
This wouldn't be the first time we've done that with update covers lol
to be fair, NEXT cover did have a ringed planet and we ended up getting those
i think that may be the only time we've had an actual hint in the art though
One of the Weekend missions had some text in which the abyss made the travellers see a previous version if the boundary failiure (as seenon Achaia V in pre release trailers)
@grizzled apex
This, I take it?
I am aware of the version of this structure that stands before me - and somehow, simultaneously, aware of another version. The spectre of the past overlaps the present structure, causing my eyes to blur and water.
In every system
Oh shit more Macforaday stuff
Oh I see that video came out a couple hours ago
Guess people have already brought it up
@grizzled apex
This, I take it?
@crisp fern
Yep
Tho would a previous iteration include the LS
time flows strangely~
We all expect the timer to change to 15//15//15 but what if it changed to a higher number?
20//20//20
Back in time to repeat our same failures.
I've been saying since August that if we're stuck in a loop, it would stand to reason that we'd eventually flow back into its start
Honestly makes a lot of sense.
anyone know the weekend mission item? and quantity?
Also I'm not sure where to put this, as I'd like to discuss it in relation to NMS but know it'd kinda get buried in the main channel.
This video on reward design in games kinda hits home at part of my frustration with NMS' reward designs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ypOUn6rThM
Nomyar, 24 Albumen Pearls.
ty
Do you think the imposter is the one in the Origins artwork? (yellow)
Isn't it ||Ariadne|| though?
perhaps
y'all have the Abyss all wrong, it's just trying to throw us a surprise party
with cake
tbh, I do love cake.
Exactly. Why do you think we've been gathering all these items? The Abyss is working with Cronus, Ariadne, and possibly Hesperus to make a big birthday cake for the Atlas
ohhhhhh
it all makes sense now
guess we have no reason to continue playing
HG, close the servers down
The Atlas recently turned 4 years old after all
β yesβ
more surprises would be cool
i need to avoid datamining talk tbh
doesn't improve my gameplay experience
i don't have the strength to avoid datamining talk though
i was pretty bummed when after Atlas Rises launched I found one of those tall structures with the data terminals out in the wild and it had a coded message, only to check the internet and find that every message had already been datamined
yeah. sucks that we have the power to do that stuff honestly.
without that power, there'd be a much bigger air of mystery surrounding the game
Tbh it doesn't matter sometimes, since we datamined that portals were inactive and yet ppl still tried to find ways to activate them
Pushing the big ball from monoliths in the direction that the flag is pointing to push it through a Portal.
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zog yeah, it was a kind of Elite moment where i felt like "oh cool I can help the community" only to realize all the mystery had been ruined
i wish game devs would do more to encrypt that kind of stuff from datamining
mhm
i still prefer pushing the big ball though
and now we have a spawnable big ball!!
SO FUN!
I LOVE BALL!
HAS ANYONE TRIED PUSHING THE SPAWNABLE BIG BALL THROUGH A PORTAL?
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i watch it roll through portal, i watch it ro down hil
oh mac foraday knows when it comes out? havent seen the vid
he thinks, according to his source
Absolute best is Monday because that gives them the rest of the week to patch all the critical bugs
Friday is a awful idea for that reason, Thursday is also bad, but iirc desolation was released on a thursday
first half of week best bet
Yep
Maybe a trailer on Monday
yeah a trailer on monday
1.5 seconds long, with glyphs.
trailer would start off with every___ procedural most likely
We'll most definitely be hearing something in the next few days
I really hope so
if it starts out with that text I will cry
and then be disappointed when it's like "Every living car procedural"
a tweet countdown but it's just every ____ procedural each hour till trailer drop
I would like that
Imagine the trailer being a slight recreation of a prerelease trailer. Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcoO7bTV48
Experience the scale of an infinite galaxy, with music written especially for No Man's Sky by 65daysofstatic.
http://www.no-mans-sky.com/
No Man's Sky is a science-fiction game about exploration and survival in an infinite procedurally generated galaxy.
Music by 65daysofsta...
Or even this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APP5WcX8v8
No Man's Sky is a science-fiction game about exploration and survival in an infinite procedurally generated universe. This is just a tiny sample of worlds you could visit.
Music: Pacify by 65daysofstatic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyZ0_M6v7J...
i would have a HYPE OVERLOAD if they showed an arctic planet similar to the mountainous one in that trailer.
that'd be the point where i knew Origins was delivering.
Starts underwater with player slowly rising from the water and running on land to display a frozen planet. The player runs over the mountain to reveal land with no snow or ice but patches of frosty grass.
Video flashes between scenes to then settle on a desert world, a sandworm starts approaching the camera with a group of players opening fire on the sandworm as a small tumbleweed like item passes by.
Another flash between scenes before taking us to a brand new biome where the ship leaves the atmosphere to show a system wide war with freighters dropping out of position and crash landing in to the nearest planet or moon.
The Atlas is seen glitching and pulsing with a new station type slowly revealing itself from behind an Atlas Station.
"No Man's Sky Origin"
Then boom, patch notes.
Aka how to make an NMS veteran bust
rofl
I can't wait to read patch notes, they're my favourite part of every update.
All the hidden amazing stuff they just "forgot" to show or tell us.
hmmm I'll keep an eye out for the patch notes then

What if they were to remake little bits from each of the prerelease trailers and combine that
they should follow Hex's script for the trailer tbh
Oh my GOD YES please
what do you guys think Origins is gonna bring?
I'm hoping for more lore on the Korvax, Gek, and Vy'keen and how they went to space
maybe more info on the First Spawn?
i think it definitely will have some sort of continuation of the current storyline
I have an idea for my own script in my head that I really love if my dream update were to come but I couldn't think of how to word it
It would be something I'd have to make
the story and legacy of the first jug of gekmilk
What if they ever added like legit cities for you to explore? that'd be cool. I always wondered where all the races lived. Cuz obviously they don't all live on the space station
depends on what it offers, gameplay wise, and how diverse they are
if ever there are cities, hopefully there are city ruins/junk planets as well
HELL YES
what if there was a planet that was literally just a garbage planet? barely any life, sentinels galore, and a ton of garbage everywhere
weird, obese fauna eating the garbage
that seems a little overpowered
a planet that's literally just pure activated iridium
ah
i think that'd be neat
well dead planets kinda hae that
the shiny texture is cool
dead planets have a lot of rusted metal deposits
maybe one day I'll make a base on a dead planet
for now, I just want an underwater base
I restarted my save so I have jack shit
If they do reset terrain, even though I doubt it, I hope they increase the maximum height/depth
To at least twice of what it is now
man that'd be necessary
what if they make a world that's all just canyons?
with rivers going through maybe half of them
would suck if they regenerated the terrain and didn't increase the height and depth
regenerating terrain will mess with a lot of saves
Zareh, we used to have worlds that were all just canyons
prior to next
