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Oooh, artifact Hunting Shovels for 700k sell value ๐
just asking, is it possible to link solar panel directly to teleporter or other equipments that requires power grid?
Maybe, but then they'd only work during the day 
@real sapphire best thing to use are those electromagnetic power thingies... only problem is finding a location to put one.... and to add to what @violet narwhal said.. you can add batteries and a proximity switch to only power it when someone is close but I've not tried it yet... got side tracked.
Not unless you have batteries
I wonder if those switches use power themselves...
No they dont
Ah, then that should sort a lot of the problems people have been having with overloaded power.
They just work as interjections for wires.
Main function is that it stops electricity from flowing through. So if you want to conserve energy and use it on your mining module and not your farming module you can pull a switch and shut the farming module off
There needs to be more generators though.
Probably, Nexus holds a lot of the industrial power shit
Sadly itโs locked away behind a shit ton of bugs
@real sapphire yeah you unlock them there but you also need to survey scanner thing for the tool and then find a suitable site etc...
So no one here, I don't think has posted very obvious new variations of ships in Beyond but I'll post what I've just found. a Shuttle with Hauler wings - I've been playing NMS since release and never saw this in my 1k+hrs of playing https://imgur.com/a/DRqVlGF it is feasible that I just never saw this but I think they did update the variations ships can do
@real sapphire In the Nexus go to the folk in the rear and you want the middle panel on the left as you walk in and you then get this...
Ooo i think i came across this while walking around anomaly
and the one on the right that does Tools can get you the upgrade bottom right
But the floor plan for the new anomaly is confusing, so i may need a bit of time to know exactly where each station is
Thanks, anw i gotta sleep
Good night
Pretty much now you can't choose your base spot, you always need to build it close to a power source..not a fan tbh
so with the new base mechanics, it's quite convoluted is what you're saying?
Solar panels plus batteries should be reliable if you build enough
With the large rooms powering things inside them without wires, does that include batteries?
i enter the anomaly, expectant, waiting... as i land, and get out of my ship... i see no-one but the inhabitants of the bubble... I am hugely disappointed...
@uncut harness it's not only that, to get a reliable power source you need to find a specific point in the map where you can harsen power from the ground which limits your choices a lot
unless you wanna build like 50 solar panels and 30 batteries to avoid blackouts at night
Do i really have to build a base or should there be a space station?
just got home
do we know what the "another" one is?
guessing it's this one?
Evening! A new build has been sent to experimental branch on PC with fixes for current most common issues.
This will go live to everyone on PC soon.
Hot fix patches are in progress for PS4 and XBox (MS/Sony cert means this is a tiny bit slower)
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nothing in #nms-announcements for that one tho
btw supply depots also act as batteries
supply depots? the ones sentinels guard?
yep and they have a pretty decent storage capacity but it can only be for one thing at a time
how do you get the tree UI in the facilities on planet?
I raided it and got the new warp cell
just like pre-NEXT answering the question
but I didn't the tree thing like on the nexus
oh I havent raided any facility yet
ok so its possible to make a pulse tick using the inverter but uh not much to do with that besides blinking lights and noise
at least I figured out how to use the proximity sensor with the prefab door
do you need to straight connect to batteries
or can there be more stepts between solar panels & batteries?
you can add as many steps as you want
to make the wiring look cleaner and flat with the surface
distance doesnt seem to matter too, speaking of which wow they made base sizes humongous
not the build limit but the build distance
I like that
was able to get a power hotspot and a gas hotspot without making another computer
Plus I'm going to have multiple overlapping bases to create a mega area
and you can use short range teleporters to go between them too
Yesssss
I should get the hyperdrive working tonight, then I can really go ham
Steam just lost connection for me?
Steam does that occasionally
Anyone have the auto switch blueprint? if so, how?
autoswitch?
I only got this
on the facility I mentioned ๐
lol reading PC Gamer article of 250 => 10K cargo increase
people please
you can upgrade yourself to an absurd amount of slots the more you play lol what more do you want
at least complain about legit things, like the distinct lack of new hats for gek
I wouldn't say no to some additional tech slots
@zinc gate actually I do feel like we need some additional multi tool slots now, I dont even that that many different kinds of weapons installed but I have run out of space thanks to the new blueprint upgrades
@mighty rampart true. I was speaking more to cargo slots, but yeah. Multitool slots would be nice haha
Eh we have more than enough general and cargo slots now comsidering the stack size
@mighty rampart i still have a lingering issue that like....70% of the ship designs in the game are wasted, since everyone wants into the t3 ones. Lots of great designs that we only use as a stepping stone
I'm still running out of storage from all the damn cooking
@worn hinge it doesn't matter to me I use whatever ship I find cool looking
My current one is a B class explorer with 25 slots and looks like a tacky boombox
No
@mighty rampart well, it still stands. a lot of ship designs are wasted with lower stats.
Yeah that's true but it's not much of an annoyance personally
anyone notice this?
I wish they would update the number on there
would help a lot imo
is this a bug?
can't see progress on floating crystals or what they'll give
Yeah looks like a bug
May someone please answer on how to tame animals and ride them? I've searched the question and literally everyone gets ignored when they asked and it is not answered. ๐
oh damn
I have it on everything
trying to reload
pfew reloading fixed it
brb reporting to be sure
@analog schooner you have to make the right type of advanced bait
Scan the animal and it tells you what kind you need ^
nutrient processor
Advance bait is made in the future grill?
Aye
Hmm.. TY
And I'm now calling it that forever
@analog schooner scan the animal and whatever the yellow name says is the kind of bait you need
Unlock the nutrient processor blueprint inside the anomaly, build it and then experiment with the new foods
What does the scan say?
Also there's probably no guide rn so it's better to ask here
The catalogue tells you how to do it
Gotcha! TY!
Faecium + something for bait, then faecium + bait for more advanced
I can't remember, I thought I would ask for when I got back on. I found these cute fells I wanted to ride around.
Fellas*
Horn eyes, they look amazing!
I never figured it out
Stupid controls don't seem to think it's worth mentioning
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I was trying to do camera motions lol
Yeeaaahhh.. VR stuff could use some work. I kept getting pop ups that were just broken and wouldn't go away, I just pretended like I was using a discounted ship that gets spam pop ups
shouldn't this be working now?
You know what I didn't think to try u til just now? Left hand over the shoulder
Deep level mineral deposit? Dig down?
๐คท
Despite all of the current issues, I'm really impressed by the fact that there have been 6 HOTFIXES IN ONE DAY
Insane
has anyone else baked a cake yet?
kinda dissapointing you can only turn it in for nanites
getting close to the center is a real test of patience :I
hm
i wish i had used the old portal to a friend in the center, when it was still viable
I think the freighter power thing
is just visual guys
all "out of charge"
but they've grown anyways
so i guess everything on the freighter is charged for free
they still grow, just slower @tepid iris
but visually it thinks has no power
ah
so it's not a visual bug ๐
now how do you get power on the freighter
idk im just giving info from next. idk if something changed in beyond
yay can getto my storage containers again
although
they've become super small lol
the UI
alright
this is also just visually
can't fall through ๐
and reported
Glad to see scanner modules are still a top tier money making method.
so cleared up my storage containers now I can access them again
all of them except 2 are now obsolete lol
coz the 10k stacks
k reported carbon planters, save point and storage container bugs
now reporting the power issue in freighters
and Atlas Barrels reported ๐
the trade terminal in my freighter vanished post-beyond lol, just realised
OH
lmao I've found it
trade terminals now glitch in the floor in freighters ๐
their build spot for new ones is also only on that spot
so
the trade terminal doesn't require any power @worn hinge
while it does on actual bases
so i'm saying freighter don't need power, and the containers are visual glitched ๐
Found a purple grass planet...so close to perfect, but it has dirty orange water :'(
People seriously finding out that freighters are fucked NOW?
I've been blabbering about that for hours and nobody gave a shit.
Also why are freighters not powered.
How is the shop thingy powered, when farms and customization thingy aren't.
well I found it out on release as well
but getting a deeper look on it
also made time to report it all now
well @uncut harness as far I could see, the power thing for farms is a visual glitch
it seems farms don't require power, but visually they say they're depleted
bu my farm just grows there ๐
my trade terminal also works without power.. very interesting
Dunno about mine, mine was growing before, and like 2 pearls grew, but everything else just died in return. ๐
btw it's confirmed, right? They don't run on coal anymore?
I tried to find the power access on em, but couldn't find shit.
the ones on my bases require wires or power
all my bases are offline ๐
no power lul
but yeah, the ones on the freighter just show that they're depleted
but if you visor look at the plants they're growing
Carbon planters however are fucked and dont grow atm ๐
So they run on "carbon" still?
Why I can't access their window then? Like, at all.
they use the global power system
Also how are some planters on carbon and some aren't?
instead of each their own thing
they're all on power system
freighter has unlimited power it seems
only some items don't realise it
like the containers
but they do work
And what. You just plop em on the ground, and they SHOULD zucc the power from a freighter?
No cabling required?
Well I'm glad they really thought that through, and freighters aren't a broken mess then.
Albeit VERY.
and you couldn't access them before, some invisible fucking wall wouldn't let you.
Wish those on the ground weren't requiring power tho.
Btw, how does a cable work?
I tried to plan out my cabling before I get the solar generators, but the game wouldn't let me.
Says I can plop one cable, and after connecting 2 lockers, it would talk shit about build limit reached.
didn't figure that out yet
btw, wanna help me figure out my build? ๐
I need to fit the new laser and scanner upgrades somewhere.
I'm thinking about removing the C upgrade for my boltcaster, and moving the S one to the right, and maybe removing one from the grenades, and move the terraformer?
It can pretty much one shot a doggo too, but yeah, I tend to blow myself up with it aswell. ๐
Optical drill even worth it?
+50% resources
Does it significantly improve the yelds?
so I'd say yes
Huh, that does sound good, yeah.
btw does mining laser mine more by default?
I tried to get my exocraft for a roll, cut down a forest since I needed some carbon
and I was getting like 39 carbon per tree, and dealing like 88 damage per tick.
Meanwhile handheld laser dealt sure, 77 per tick, but yielded like almost 60 per tree.
and that's pre optical drill.
pre-beyond I did 100-150 damage
per tick from close up
do note that you deal less from far tho
So they just got nerfed to shit for no apparent reason.
naah if I was any closer, i'd just run em over.
Combat Scope? If you have a spare slot, I guess. It's a very small zoom
Don't shoot until you can see the whites in their monitors.
ah is that the cause?
nope, I was just trying to be funny ๐
sooo my refurbished VR headset was a scam....it was heavily used
had a 2 huge scratches on the middle of the left lens and ....
the cable was bend in such a way that had i plugged it in to my PC I would have shorted my USB
I had to send it back
no VR for me...until I can find a reasonably priced one ๐ฆ
@near schooner well, if they let you send it back it wasn't much of a scam. <3 still...that sucks.
Yeah that sucks
Are you sure you are powering the doors?
false advertising then....it was listed as manufacturer refurbished and it had makeup in the nose piece and dandruff on next to the lenses
OH WAIT
you have to power the doors?
Since they are auto doors I'd imagine so
Just going by the rimworld school of thought
Lmao
God damn
one solar panel produces 50K
so while it lasted to charge my door
(didn't open while charged xD)
Lmao
it instantly lost power from the battery
as soon as I connected the building
this is insane man
one ferrite building uses 50K aprox
I read fertile building for some reason
power needs a nerf
how do you send wires down levels?
like I need to connect them to my underground bunker somehow
When you reach the center of the galaxy is it random where you end up or can you choose what type of Galaxy you want?
Neither, you go to the next galaxy.
I thought you get to choose now?
@tepid iris you need switches to doors - thats at least my current assumption. Turn power off = open. Turn power On = close
@tepid iris plus build some batteries for night if you are going with solar...
You get a choice at the end of the Artemis path, which doesn't involve going to the centre.
I'm just trying to get a Tranquil Galaxy.
But the Artemis path seems like it will take... awhile.
Much quicker than going to the centre of 9 galaxies..
9 galaxies?
The first lush galaxy is Eissentam, which is galaxy 10.
I'm not sure what galaxy I'm in. It's a red one.
You'll be in Euclid, the first galaxy.
Probably easier to just find whatever you're wanting there... Lush galaxy has twice the chance of lush planets, but there are still plenty in Euclid.
Yeah I can't be in Euclid.
Lush planets are super rare.
Most systems have barren and dead planets.
Are you looking in yellow stars?
Yes
And if I do manage to find a planet with life it's always the same red grass/tree planet. I'm not sure the last I saw a green planet.
are base npcs still a thing? i've gone to nexus and looks like those guys replace them?
When on the galaxy map is there a way to tell what galaxy I'm in?
It seems people are able to go back to galaxies they've been to before, so people could (if multiplayer was working properly) go back to Euclid and possibly bring people to other galaxies using the nexus...
You do get to choose the galaxy you go to tho
Iโm so confused
The nexus thing I understand, I had the same question
But you can choose what galaxy to go to when you finish one of the missions
I'm a bit confused now that I'm looking around the galaxy maps. Some regions actually change to green. Are galaxies made up of multiple types? Is there a "tranquil" region? Is that the same as a "tranquil galaxy"
Not as far as anyone knows. It just changes colour.
And you do choose which galaxy you go to if you do the mission way. But not if you do the centre-of-galaxy way.
Yeah
I mean... I guess I will just have to do the Artemis questline. The only other choice would be to find someone whose playing on PS4 and is in a Tranquil galaxy and teleport to them, right?
I didnโt do it the mission way
Iโm still in euclid but Iโm a jump away from centre
Iโve stuck here for a while
As I just said, it may be easier now with the relaxed travel between galaxies.
Iโm not quite done here yet
Can you choose to go to 255 after the new beginnings mission or no?
Is there somewhere I could go to find a player in that type of galaxy? Just the main channel?
#ps4 maybe
But at the moment people are having so many problems, it may be better to just wait a bit.
Go to #roles to get platform roles.
I shall try that. Thanks!
so base npcs on a fresh save? anyone know?
Do the tutorial quests until you get to that point, see what happens?
i've done the basic base building quest to the point where i get sent to the nexus, and i've talked to artemis and gotten the triangulation quest
And no quest for staffing the base or whatever?
nope
No overseer?
Maybe they're gone then...
just build a wood hut, build a teleporter, power it is the quest chain for base building thus far
It may come later though... People were getting sidetracked into that stuff before they got warp drive, which caused all kinds of problems...
the overseer and the other base npc quest lines still exist
further into the artemis questline
aight
ah yeah seems like it was apollo who started base npcs in next
i might be thinking atlas rises
yeah i unlocked base npcs after the first time you meet apollo
@uncut harness been playing for 6 hours with only 1 crash, so its better for sure
that said, i still have online disabled....so...
Oh yeah I'm just looking at single player gameplay
I'm not expecting the Nexus to function until like
Next week
anyone else having issues with rift s?
So this is the spoiler section can anyone fill me in on something? Not asking untill I know story spoilers are ok lol
Yeah go for it
Cool, so are we living in a world that the atlas is dreaming up? Are everything we encounter things scanned in the real universe or is everything just made up and the real world is completely different
Itโs all just a simulation. The atlas created everything in that universe
If I remember correctly
You are just another glitch my friend
^^
So are the sentients like the atlas version of McAfee keep us "programs" in line?
Yep
wtf
SPOILER
So and this might not be answerable but is everything we do pointless and it's just random stuff in the atlas fever dream or is the atlas looking for something by running the Sim
yes
Yes
16?
I see
basically past a certain point the only goals are the ones you set for yourself
Yup
this is why we cant have nice tea parties
It's tryin to avoid death somehow, as it has seen its ultimate end

Well thank you that does help some, last think if you start a new game is there a way to "skip the tut" part of the game like is there a way to make antimatter when you start or do you have to go through the story untill it decide to to give you the schematic
yep
Story
honestly I havent started a new game in ages so I cant really help
Always the tutorial unless in creative
Yeah I just bought the game and have restarted a couple of time cause I'm not sure yet if you can always recover from mistakes or not
Aside from any potential unfound gamebreakers, about the only thing you can do wrong is waste the antimatter or warp cell it gives you
I see I deleted the scanner part on my muti tool because I thought a upgrade I bought was a better version but now it does not scan lol can I get a scanner back or do I just need to buy another multitool, on another note this game can be kinda vague at times
you can definitely craft the basic parts
what does the atlas path even do
Did the hotfix roll out?
@clear merlin
So and this might not be answerable but is everything we do pointless and it's just random stuff in the atlas fever dream or is the atlas looking for something by running the Sim
No. The Atlas simulation is a parallel with reality, due to it being created as a predictive ontological sim, for the purposes of uncovering the nature of reality itself. It reveals that even the reality it was created in was a simulation, and thus if one were to take that to mean it's all meaningless, then that reality would also be meaningless.
However, there remains a lurking meaning yet to be uncovered, which is, just what is simulating all this, and why?
Nice! now we have 573 cooking recipes :
a little preview (beware large image (15mb aprox.)
@crisp fern so the world atlas was created in was a Sim?
Since when were launch system rechargers a thing?
Were they always there?
Itโs so handy
Nope, new
@clear merlin never explicitly stated, but heavily implied by the Atlas working as intended and being capable of predicting events entirely accurately in the reality it was created in
So weโre in a simulation too then
the last 16 minutes of the simulation
thatโs why thereโs a 16 motif
the atlas is dying so itโs stretching on its sim as much as possible
And in its frantic death it slips up, creating anomalies and issues with the simulation, etc. The Travelers were modeled after the atlasโ creator, because they wished desperately to be with their creator in their last moments.
So, I wonder if it's figured something out - gotta lot of new travellers now
Give me more lore ๐ญ
uhhh so im confused as to what to do in the Anomaly in order to get base building aka power-related stuff going
new save?
nah old save
ahhh, um use ur blueprint analyzer to unlock the biofuel reactor
then wires
needs dug up modules like always
oh so I don't do anything in the anomaly
u can get some higher tier stuff there i think. but to get basics going u just need the bp analyzer
wait so weโre in the last 16 minutes of a simulation??
Damn
I knew I shouldโve went ahead with the story
ah awesome thanks man all i want to do is power up my base so I can take out all the stuff from my containers and move bases
Do we find out who put us in here?
oof I meant to ask this in #nms-questions yikes
after having to return the other VR headset cause they lied about it I remembered a friend owed me some money ... collected .... bought the Samsung HMD Odyssey+ new
whooop
@uncut harness sorry, what? Who put us in the sim? The Atlas sub-sim/NMS, I presume?
Ok so itโs just a paradox then
Weโre caught in an endless loop of simulations branching into more simulations
Cool
so the last bit can basically be infinite feeling
well it depends
if Artemis also has a IRL body or he IS part of the simulation
If itโs infinite then thereโs a simulation where everything was the exact same
technically every traveler in the game exist
Someone said theyโre related to the creator of the atlas?
Or something
But still a simulation idk
What about nada and polo
since theyโre in every simulation
they just keep going without knowing right
Oh no, part of what makes them how they are is that they're among the few that do know
They know and somehow slipped into the reality between realities
So the future versions of themselves discovered how to exit the simulation?
Not quite, they just found out there was an in-between all of the simulations
But what I mean is they are not outside the simulation, they haven't found a way out
They're still within the metasimulation that contains all the other simulations, yeah
yeah
Well, yeah, basically, but being worsened by surrounding conditions, i.e. black holes
They were, it's just the Atlas ceases to be able to predict what will come after it's consumed by a black hole
Because, well, the Atlas presumably ceases to be...But given what we know of how black holes function in the game, this may not be exactly the case...
So the actual atlas, not the stations is being sucked into a black hole
Yeah
The curious problem of the Atlas being caught in a black hole is that, to the best of our knowledge in reality, black holes tend to...Presumably, destroy things...However, in-game, black holes simply transport things to other locations so...
Yeah
Not so far as I recall/am aware, though some may dispute that
@uncut harness is inclined to think that we may sort of encounter the true Atlas, last I talked to them, but I'm kind of hmm about that
How do I explain this
Well apparently when we reach the final galaxy it just takes us back to first one
Which is really pointless
Tbh I'm not sure how much of that is meant to be representative of anything narratively
I think that's largely a technical constraint of some sort, or simply a gimme like, "who is even going to do this"
Ok but wouldnโt it be nice to get a reward
Yeah but still
Iโd do it
According to google each galaxy has โ3 to 4 billion regions, each of which contains 122+ star systemsโ
How does it work on their servers
I mean it obviously doesnโt render all of it
But it still needs to know the whereabouts of the player or something
The devs are extremely talented
everything only exists when you're there
they only ever need to know what you know in the moments you're knowing it
Do any of the travelers actually have genders, like, the lore-specific ones?
I feel like I remember reading somewhere that some of them did, but honestly I kind of doubt that
at least, confirmed genders?
doesnโt most text just refer to each of them as โtheyโ?
sorry for text dump
Eh just read through wiki descriptions
doesnโt seem like it
Apollo was mainly the one I wanted to know about because theyโre my fave โค
A single line in the wiki says โhimโ but kinda doubt thatโs a reputable source honestly
lol
"My ship before and after the update."
xbone has been running fine for me :/
slight lag in very specific occasions and a single crash
My game works semi fine after I completely disabled multiplayer. well apart from all the amazing bugs they introduced.
but for the most part probably running even better than it did pre-Beyond
@sullen pulsar Apollo is Apollo and Apollo is interesting so good 'nuff
Apollo > all other NPCs smh
last time i saw him he said he'll race me towards the center.
To address your question though, there is no explicit gender attributed to any of the Travelers in-game
Wonder what does happen to everyone after the events of the questline.
they may be stubborn, kind of rude, and criminally obsessed with money, but.... love โem to my hearts content
apart from the "real life" origins.
Like artemis was a she, apollo was a he, stuff like that.
Shame, but yeah. Apollo I think reffered to artemis as they, when he said that he often made fun of "them".
not sure why shame but ๐คท
cause it's lazy. but to each their own.
yeah, i dunno, i think just going with the usual would be lazier, but is just my take
it just stinks of political correctness. Instead of having balls, and developing actual characters, "everything's left to players interpretation". Popular trend as of late. Like frisk, like Ori. it's boring.
uh oh spaghetti-o
Ori is especially interesting, cause literally every one of "their" race has genders, and the lil ghost flying after "them" at least once reffered to "them" as male.
but creator said so, so it must be true, I guess.
i think it better suits this alien scifi setting personally
aye, having the scan of atlas' creator be genderless.
i mean tbh that part of the story still strikes me as dumb shit
also itโs pretty unlikely to me that aliens would have genders based upon those of an entirely separate race (humans) bruh
it does fuckall to explain the wide variety of travelers
Love that argument.
Yeah no other species on earth have genders.
nu uh.
only humans.
yes, earth matters in a subject on a universal scale
I think it has something to do with endless resets, doesn't it?
i mean even within humanity sex is complex
like each reset births a new traveller or some bollocks like that.
Even many fish have genders we certainly donโt have
It's never really clear on that, which is why I find the whole creator scan thing such nonsense
Supermale fish or Superfemale fish
or whatever the frick theyโre called
earth has some wacky stuff
whoโs to say space doesnโt too
if there even are any other intelligent species out there
who's to say there's anything at all there either.
Yup
Because I mean, you're right, if Atlas creator was human and that human identified a certain way, you'd think big ol' supercomputer would recognize that and try to adhere to it but for some strange reason somehow the scan gets all mixed up and now we have a big bunch of confused aliens
Fermi paradox got me kinda worried doe
eh
it do not matter
earth is already dying by our hand
there's a lot of us now, each a unique entity. We may once originated from a single scan, but we changed, obviously. we started to interact with each other.
we ainโt making it off this planet if you ask me
sure maybe Mars and our own solar system
So I really just don't even acknowledge that whole creator scan part of the narrative half the time because it's so ๐ especially after Waking Titan season 2 threw in dreamers for whatever reason to mix things up even more
But I donโt think weโll goo too far
waking titan retconned a lot of the elements of the Atlas
dunno what was that about the dreamers, but i like the scan bit.
honestly I consider it a separate canon, that is if youโre willing to ignore the whole dreamers=anomalies thing
Atlas asking for a scan of its creator, then setting it into the universe it created.
yeah but like even that's dumb when you consider that the Atlas was a predictive sim reproducing the reality of its creator so it should have already had its creator in its simulation
only you know, something's seriously fucking wrong now, hence atlas became rather unstable, more glitches started to show up, and realities started to intertwine.
yeah
Remember, the atlas is the reason these wacky crazy glitches keep happening in the sim, which itโs attempting to track down and destroy (anomaly planets, the players, etc)
was it a predictive sim? I thought it was just to simulate a universe.
Some kind of pet project, hence it was abandoned, when all humans fucked off.
Honestly Iโm in over my head
Mhm
So in the no manโs sky actual, real-world universe, all of humanity is dead or at the very least they abandoned the Atlas
From what we know atlas was on earth, and humans abandoned it, yeah.
it does describe seeing a โfigure approaching itโ at some point so I wouldnโt say humanity is completely gone
too big to take with them, so as a parting gift he asked for a scan.
it attempts to see past that point, but it realizes futilely that that figure approaching it is itโs very last moment
what the hoolihans might this be?
wish was granted, and they went on. Atlas alone.
It's both, it's a predictive ontological simulation of the universe to uncover the nature of reality
scanner shows nothing
So it's a parallel with reality so that it can predict its host reality, so it should have already had its creator within its simulation anyway
makes a humming noise
Only now something's wrong, 16 minutes left to live apparently. We dunno what exactly. Some speculate, that sun blew up or something, black hole's about to consume earth, stuff like that.
so it canโt cope with its own death and not being able to see its creator again, and in its fervent fear of death it starts duplicating faster and faster, adding in the Travellers (replications of itโs original creator) and stretching each simulation out as much as it can
@cloud epoch new marker for a specific location
what we know for sure, is whatever's wrong, it's on a timer, and atlas can't do anything about it.
well that's intersting
hmmmmm
nada and polo both claiming the atlas is a lie
should i build a base near it lol?
@cloud epoch look at it and press the button you normally use to select/highlight something through your analysis visor
itโll go away
I can see why if the early game lead everyone out to a random galaxy instead of whatever it is we thought it was
took me a minute to figure that out too haha itโs not explained at all
nada and polo don't know shit, creations rebelling, atlas most likely is real.
Instead of searching for the โpurposeโ of all reality, it starts searching for the โpurposeโ of itself
And dying. as for different galaxies, it's just more resets isn't it?
what did dooooooo?!
ya hard to say, why would this thing repeat over and over again, why would atlas push you off the galaxy once you know too much
i hit e to tag and it ran off
that's true, but why is it dying?
is it gone? @cloud epoch
rip muh cool light beam
yeah
like you can reset the galaxy, with different prefixes, like tranquil and whatnot, and poof, it regenerates. a new galaxy.
is it dying cause of things like nada and polo or is it dying because of some other reason and you save it
tag any random spot that doesnโt already have some form of special location marker to get beam back
tag the beam again to remove it
the atlasโ physical form, a supercomputer of human design, exists on earth, and for whatever reason it suddenly realizes it only has sixteen minutes of real-world human time to live
we don't know why it's dying, that's the point. we only know that it supposedly has 16 minutes left to live, it's panicking, it's afraid, and it can't do anything about it, since the problem exists in the "real" world, not the simulated one.
wait is that really just the custom marker?
cus i hadnt set one when i found this lol
@uncut harness I blame sean XD
except knowing how black holes work in-game that doesn't make a ton of sense
it can essentially view the future, so it looks far enough ahead and sees a โbright light and a figure approaching, obscured by the lightโ so it tries to look even further past that point, but physically cannot
it would just move the Atlas around one would think and, well, sure, damage its tech, but eh
maybe it's jumping between 2 black holes. ๐ His tech is constantly getting damaged, hence we get more broken universe, and everything's collapsing.
explains all the bugs every time we get a new update XD
it begins to fear death upon the realisation that it can see nothing past that point, and starts screwing up its simulations, dropping in the travelers (clones based on its original creator, which vary even more with each simulation run), and the atlas grows so careless in its race against death that universes start bleeding together, and all the funky lore shit starts happening (anomalous planets and other โglitchyโ things)
itโs kind of melancholy and sad really
so where does nada and polo and artemis fit into this?
artemis was one of those scans, as simple as that.
for the whole game the atlas seems evil, itโs just so malevolent and controlling because it wants nothing more than order in a chaos-filled world (i.e death)
polo and nada have an anomaly, that exists outside of space and time.
thatโs the way I interpret it
it can't be reset.
Yeah, the travelers who are sentient that you talk too are the ones who are largely aware of their own existence
they know the atlas at least in some way is responsible for controlling all of reality
so they basically say fuck you to god and start bleeding through the universe, purposefully trying to find more sentient travelers
and because they can
can'
can't be reset they remember everything that happens instead of having memory wipes
theyโre not much special beyond that, but thatโs not to bring down how important and interesting their capabilities are
so then the travelers who go to the center and get sucked into a new galaxy never to be seen again are the ones who failed?
that's what it seems like
they always want to return to the original galaxy after realizing the error of their ways but fail every time cause there is no way back
@sullen pulsar i read the atlas as desperately wanting to be understood ๐คท
Weโre anomalies, not travelers. Weโre different in that weโre capable of viewing all this from an outside perspective. Unless youโre talking about some actual travelers in which case I forget about that part.
so then they try to go forward and fail because there's only so many places they can go but never back to the orignal
@sullen pulsar well that depends on perspectives. Are we travelers or anomalies? You can technically call the day one people travelers since they've all done this before several iterations of the universe
but at the same time they can all be anomalies
I thought whatever happens, happens outside of his control, in the real world, and all he can do is to simulate universes, he tries to do that over and over to find a solution.
ya ala mass effect child XD
but better ending
the question is why and for what purpose
my new game is going to be really interesting
Nobody knows why the atlas is getting OOFโd
ya that's what makes us more like travelers because we don't know the full picture
perhaps the humans running it just pulled the plug, or maybe all humans have died and itโs basically run out of power
we still dunno
but you said about him seeing the future, and that after death there's nothing.
that's why he's afraid. I thought he didn't want to die in more normal sense.
Like you and I.
he's afraid of the void
The atlas was designed to simulate the future, so at some point it simulates its own, and realizes at some point that its simulation rather abruptly stops just after a figure shrouded in white light approaches it
rather than death
which could be a metaphor for god or someone coming to take it away
really thatโs also a mystery
so then the choice we make to not go through into a new universe? Is that us preventing the simulation from starting over?
and its 16 mniutes till that.
Each simulation will, canonically, end with time
it's black holes
but that choice is still there yes?
I think reseting doesn't matter.
it just seems longer than 16 minutes to us because in real-time the simulations are running at speeds very different from baseline earth speed
atlas already reset countless of times.
It witnesses its own self, the black hole ripping apart its world, its core systems almost destroyed.
death always is inevitable for the atlas
Yeah, that's why you don't have to reset straight away, you can do it normally by going to the center.
Artemis doesn't know a lot of things. She's just a lonely traveller, that will be alone forever.
@sullen pulsar the other thought also is 16 minutes near a supermassive black hole could take centuries
anything in regards to our own AI?
Apparently next introduced that other AI, one in our backpack and whatnot, and "her" story can be found in those new terminals.
Anything interesting there? How does she tie to all of this?
God visits the atlas lmao
@uncut harness and interestingly artemis tells me she ripped out the speaker from her exosuit because of what that AI was doing and saying to her
Ah yes
Telamon
According to the big ring fellas on anomaly planets we should โbeware what she tells usโ
lovely stuff
one of these days theyโre gonna sneakily add in Telamon voice lines that say super creepy shit whenever youโre on anomaly planets
that screen.
It's kinda calming in a way.
It doesn't necessairly mean atlas will die. Only that it's 16 minutes till contact, and after those 16 minutes, "it won't be alone".
yes but that's a supposition
like half the lore in this game.
atlas is only basing that on seeing someone approach but can't see beyond that. For all we know person walks up and powers off the PC and atlas is in the void indefinitely
if atlas was not afraid of the end then seeing a person appear shouldn't be frightning
That could mean they came back for him, that they'll turn him on somewhere else.
or they toss him in a scrap heap
it can't see past this point, cause it wouldn't be working by then.
Or, yeah. ๐
if he was turned on again he should be able to see past that point
and have a void between now and then
he's predicting right?
He can't predict what will happen to him after he's been turned off.
true
Wishful thinking, but I really hope that "he will never be alone again" means they came back for him, and put him on a ship or something.
but I look at it this way. If you fall asleep you predict you will wake up again the next morning. If you die, you can't seem to predict what happens to the world beyond what happens to you
same with a AI with future sight. If Atlas is repowered there should be some prediction available of being turned on again
You hope you wake up. you never technically know that you will.
glad I at least remembered that right.
That she's attached to our backpack.
So she's the one saying "inventory's full" etc?
so is that attached to artemis or us?
we're the last one I think.
hmm lots of us it seems
infinite universes and whatnot.
Yea
so right now that AI doesn't go batshit crazy
I look forward to that update when that happens
this game will get super creepy because of it
also this implies that the Atlasโ vision of the future could just have been tampered with
so that it was purposefully cut short by the creator
lol reminds me of the last universe reset
huh. so it's "it all happened before" bullshit then?
I blame sean for that
the person in the light is it's creator, reseting atlas?
But yeah, it was designed to simulate universes. that's all.
"to show the nature of reality, by creating it's own". That also makes sense.
It fears its own death, cause everything he creates and simulates eventually dies?
shoulda installed one bio reactor.
didn't get around to it
I can't get to wiring at all
cause I can build one and only wire.
and I can't connect a dozen different things with it.
I have a ton of wiring
after building one wire from point a to point b, game says i reached the limit for this creation and fuck off.
three solar panels and a single battery
actually it looks like all my doors disappeared
cause i'm just runnnig around in the same hallways
that also can happen, yeah.
connected from the battery to a teleport terminus
old bug, surprised they didn't fix it.
yup pre-Beyond saves lost their doors
there's supposed to be an open door that goes out to the wood section
I lost my landing pads. ๐
the door was there when I went in
I havenโt checked my pre-Beyond bases
great, I have to find which side it's supposed to be on
Im sure theyโve all gone to hell though
and the best part it's all red right now like the atlas
Probably just gonna scrap all my pre-Beyond bases
@uncut harness you should be refunded for those
Just start anew
and I'm trying to do the triangulation quest for artemis. Atlas knows XED
emphasis on "should".
@sullen pulsar that's what I;m going to do, I'm, just doing random stuff on my old game
new save for new life essentially
Old save has over 100 hours
๐๐
Not much all things considered
But Iโve had a helluva lot of fun experiences in that time
ok better
On my new save I just made my first interstellar warp
I reinstalled the door
new system baby
the door literally disappeared
the first planet I land on has ancient bones (which can be worth millions if I get lucky), and huge striders
only problem is crappy constantly burning weather
but now I go to bed
And I wonโt get to play the game for another two and a half weeks
๐ญ
going on vacation tho so itโs worth it
well
@uncut harness check the base salvage capsule
kinda worth it
going to see what my other base does to me, collected extra resources just in case
lol on one side it has planted beans and on the side my ships land hazardous flora try to kill me
@uncut harness actually interestingly the fact that my old base had a door that was bugged
that's like the atlas dying...totally 4th wall breaking even though it was unintended
makes me wonder now if the "creator" can also be an engineer or person engaged in maintenance with the atlas and at some point either dies or gives up and lets the thing run till it's like an old PC
I'm also wondering about the vykeen we recruit who loses contact and almost becomes nada like
there's some interesting things the NPCs say now if you go into the game really treating the whole game like one giant conspiracy theory
that's super interesting
nada and polo both say artemis either forgot them or she has traveled to a point where she has yet to meet them
and they describe her to be like another iteration of who she was
How bad is this game usually? I'm crashing a lot in the Nexus and my freighter is very glitchy the storage room I can't walk into and it doesn't add storage, adding a corner room leaves pieces of the wall floating... Is this normal?
the storage you'll need power for
ditto for the doors if you have them
the nexus has improved. I'm currently there. But it depends. If you're on PC use the experimental branch. If you're on PS4/xbox there should be a patch coming once it clears certification
usually the game is fine. Beyond created a bunch of bugs, which most have been resolved within the last day
the corner room thing might just be a bug
All these are happening tonight, also the stairs when going up in the freighter there's a wall that connects both staircases and that wall is "alive" it moves and glitches: changes textures. I've noticed my character model disappears sometimes when I'm talking to people in the docking area. My specs: 2080, ryzen 7 2700x, 17gb ram I don't think it has anything to do with my rig
16*
interesting
I doubt it does. Best to wait to tomorrow at least and see if there's a new patch in the morning
So what's the difference between crimson story vs Artemis
@uncut harness Artemis is about the whole fact that we're all in different simulations (different iterations) and the Atlas is the one making them all in an attempt to fix itself
the atlas seeds is about the latter
Therefore the center takes you to another dimension so technically people complaining about it didn't understand the full story I kinda like that
What are the new "story elements" that we got with Beyond ?
I gotta go to the center and I nearly finished Atlas but I thought I read somewhere that Beyond brought new story quests or something ?
It consolidates some questlines, reworks Nada and Polo for the Nexus, and redoes (for the nth time) the tutorial bits, but I don't recall any totally new story elements being added
so you can save power as Khraze pointed out, by disabling tech through switches when not used:
I've also found out
portals, farming containers etc auto are supplied with power if they're in a pure ferrite room that is powered
Batteries placed inside a pure ferrite building seem to auto empower all connected blocks
I'll probably add proximity switches to my portals then
Are doors broken? I powered the door and it shuts but the only way I can open it is to delete the power cable
See pinned message in #nms-questions
haven't put online back on yet till the VR thing is resolved
Falador Massacre 2.0 in No Man's Sky ๐
// ERROR // ERROR //
@real sapphire Learn to parallel park dude ๐
its someone else's ship tho xD
Decided to post this just for reference. As this was my primary source of carbon pre beyond. Frost crystals. Refiner did "Operation: Burn Plant Matter" and made carbon at a 1:2 ratio. Glass was made with frost crystals from the backpack, not refiner. Now frost crystals are the ONLY plant material that no longer makes carbon in refiner. Why?!?! Every other plant still makes carbon.
Also, we have the silica sand or whatever it is now that also makes glass. So I wonder if adding the silica or whatever caused a funky overlap with the frost crystals and causes this.
is there any downside to not restarting? and if I do can I still access my old bases and my friends who havent restarted?
decided to sit down at this moment
well apparently you continue sitting down afterwards
Sohail how do you get that helmet, I heard that they had mini events in NMS since NExt? Anyway for returning players to get them?
@small pier you can still buy them, but you will need to wait until they start giving out quicksilver missions
nada is also giving quicksilver but I doubt it will be enough to buy the helmet
but yea all of the older event items will be still available for purchase
how the heck am i supposed to get the Atlas Pass v3 now? when I talk to Nada and Polo they don't have any interest in my milestone data anymore
@uncut harness Find a Manufacture/Other buildings on lockdown that you need to blow the doors - answer it correctly and its in the talent tree for leaning that pops up if you choose "Learn New Recipe" as your reward for stopping the facility from blowing
Yeah just gets some Navi Tickets or whatever they're called and go to a Station in a system and go to the NPC that sells Star Chart locations
And hope they ping one
yah ๐ thanks
Just a heads up you have to learn Atlas Pass 1 and 2 before getting to three
So youll be hunting for awhile d:
@quiet sierra yeah hes the food rating guy
ooooh nice ๐
am i supposed to be able to talk to the first floor NPCs in the nexus?
i hold down square but no dialogue
@signal harness main downside is possible bugs due to ported save
And a subjective downside due to not having a new game experience
Are there that many bugs? Thought people galaxy hopped a fair bit
I did it
base ONLINE
lol
this is ugly as hell tho
I might as well build it's own power system
so it doesn't have an ugly cable lol
holy
that's super bright lmao
I guess I know why bases require so much power @mighty rampart
Uh that's too bright, do you have your torch on?
nope lol
sooo
with my current infrastructure
my power lasted 3 minutes into the night
before falling offline ๐
Lmao
alright
next day
up from 1 100% battery to 3 100% batteries
let's see how long we last ๐
Christ
seriously?
ah it recalculated
now at 5 minutes until drained
7 minutes till sunlight oof
so a 2 minute gap of downtime if the calc is correct
nope oof
seems like pausing the game bugs the countdowns ๐
To bug reports we go
alright
- 10 batteries
3 more minutes to charge the 10 extras
5 minutes left till night
this should work hopefully ๐
630 000kp stored in batteries
450kp used, 1600kp generated
holy christ what?
this can't be right... right?
600 000 kp can't last longer than 2-3 minutes out of 15 minutes night?
waaat
time until drained is going up per second
lol VICTORY (or at least so far)
counter is now at 7 minutes and rising, with less than 7 minutes till sunrise
my HQ is back online ๐
yay sunlight! we made it!
over the night, my base used up a massive chunk of 320 000 / 600 000 kp
about 45% charge left reserve
and 5 minutes to charge it all back up to 100% of 15 minutes ish day
Just started Alone Amidst the Starts - it says to search for clues about artermis and to open my guide but ive found nothing so far...
Nevermind
Is the free freighter quest capped at 20 slots now or is that limitation still just based on playtime? So if I keep denying the free freighter until 15+ hours in higher slot ones should spawn?
@errant wasp I don't know if they have changed the slots for the Freighters but they used to be;```arm
Freighters
Type and Slots **:** Tech slots
> Regular: 15-19 **:** 4
> Capital: 24-34 **:** 4
Class and Bonuses
> C 0-9% Hyperdrive Bonus
> B 10-19%
> A 20-30%
> S 31-40%
```css
The available build area within the freighter is the same regardless of type/class of the freighter.
So if you can find a system where a Capital freighter spawns then you just warp in to that system when a Space Rescue mission is triggered and then land on station and exit ship to make an autosave, you then get back in ship and go kill the pirates and once you do that board ship and then see if the stats are what you want... if not reload save and try again...
wow! first trip aboard the new "Space Anomoly" Amaze-balls!
@jovial stag they must have changed something, because the free freighter quest is saying it's giving Capital Ships, but then they are capped at 19 slots still
i save scummed like 20 times never saw more than 19 slots
that is just a Space Rescue mission and those can happen in systems where no Capital ship spawns, and a Capital ship has 24-34 slots... anything 15-19 is just a regular freighter and they are in every system. So the trick is to find a system where a Capital ship spawns... then you wait for a space rescue to be triggered and only then do you go to that system and do the battle with the pirates @errant wasp
@jovial stag ah, I was told by someone else that it is capped at 19 slots now. Even when getting on the chip the hover tooltip was showing "Capital Ship"
Yes it'll say Capital ship but if it doesn't have 24-34 slots then its not a proper Capital ship...
is anyone's iteration: ares broke? mine acts like a traveller and wants nanites for a grave site...
@jovial stag "wait for a space battle" than "go to another system" I've never had a space battle teleport when I warped are you sure that's a thing
Has anyone figured out how to switch ship weapons while in vr?
I heard everything gets really weird after reaching the center of the universe each time you do the game mixes up the terrain is this true
No, that was mentioned before release, but never got into the real game.
They may have been repeating the old information, or perhaps weren't clear what they meant?
@uncut harness not sure if the release of Beyond has changed this but time will tell I guess...```diff
This method will also work to obtain a freighter if you don't already have one.
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Identify the system where a freighter in the style/colour you like spawns
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Travel to the system, via a Portal so the system can then be set as a waypoint and then using warps/black holes (you can also join someone who is already there, you just need the system in your teleporter list), this will be Point A
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Once you get there (not by using a Portal) you need to warp to a nearby system, this will be known as Point B
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Now, go back to just playing the game and exploring, making sure to create a save point in every system/station you visit.
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When a space rescue is triggered you should reload your last save and then teleport to Point B
- Note: Warping around in a Freighter, if you have one, will not trigger a space rescue, so use a ship
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From there get in then out and then back in your ship in the Point B station (creates a save point)
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Then leave the station and warp to Point A, ignore the battle and land on the station.
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Get out/in your ship (create a save point)
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Then leave the station and enter the battle. [1]
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Once the battle is completed board the freighter.
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If you're happy with the stats for the freighter then purchase/exchange it if not reload your save, go to [1] above
- Be aware that the space rescue battles can also happen for the Regular freighters found in every system as well as the Capital ones. So pick your battles carefully.
For any of the people wishing they didn't need to bother messing with power and stuff...
UI_AUTOPOWER_DESC Enabling Auto-Power removes the need to build generators and power networks.``` looks like they may have thought of that option already... But not in the game yet AFAIK.
I could be misinterpreting that though, I guess.
Also, try and target a T3 System, you have better chances of getting one of the good ones
What 4he heck are the Glass and the progenitors
I beat the game a long while ago, not sure if Hello Games ever continued the story - its very vague and a lot of things were never addressed