nms-spoilers

[runic mesa]

The whole "LNF will be announced on NMS's tenth anniversary" sound more like hopium, imo

[gloomy isle]

Ooor

New galaxy

[cosmic anvil]

also I feel that is not the time for that too

[molten karma]

I think that would be a more logical next step considering what we have.

[cosmic anvil]

It is NMS's spotlight

[gloomy isle]

Have to access it using mechanics but you can travel freely once you're there

[molten karma]

I personally agree with you on the LNF thing but at the same time I can absolutely see HG doing it with a smaller NMS update if this one is the big one.

[ebon lynx]

summer games fest, and if not that, the game awards

[hard stirrup]

Lol...turn the economy galactic map filter on and see what that does to the colors of the star systems....there are 8 colors....7 for economy types and white for no economy.

[glass flare]

it's not like HG has done big celebrations on the actual anniversary in the past. it's usually just Sean posting a tweet or something. I don't really agree with the idea that August is precious and must be reserved for NMS stuff. as far as I'm concerned the whole year is 10th anniversary celebrations

[deep mountain]

Probably because the big updates come out late July to August now it's the anniversary year ontop of that echoes August 24th 2023 world's part 1 July 18th

[molten karma]

Yeah true if you really thinkg about it almost every big update has been July or September. I find it more weird if this is the big update of the year we didn't get a trailer with the red screen and text like for 5th anniversary.

[deep mountain]

I ain't even need to look too hard to find out we outside the summer update bubble it's may

[molten karma]

Its not impossible to have something big early though either. One released in June to.

[near forge]

This would make a lot of sense actually, contrary to what people often say here, I think Sean actually saw those things as small homages towards Starfield.

He was quite thrilled to meet Todd at one of these game events, if anything HG themselves would probably consider these ego comparisons rather cringe.

[molten karma]

Plus streamer promotions which is 100% official news says otherwise.

[deep mountain]

If it's a fake out and it's some small update I could get the mighty mouse maybe finally

[timber fox]

hello, do we know what the new update is about?

[ebon lynx]

we find out tomorrow

[hard stirrup]

While we don't know the size of it, finding out that this is the first time in four years HG are actually paying content creators to promote this update certainly creates the expectation this will be something meaningful and significant. It would be very surprising if they did this for something like an expedition only.

[near forge]

No way this is expo only

[late tusk]

how funny it would be if all of this was true

[near forge]

Though I wonder…when did Adrift launch again?

Oh Adrift was very close to this timing wise

But yeah, I doubt it‘s gonna be a repeat of that

[hard stirrup]

Nope. It's all pure speculation...and one supposed leak nobody knows if real or not. That's usually how these things go with Hello Games...we almost never know what updated are before they actually release and start downloading. We'll know for sure tomorrow.

[ebon lynx]

at this point update releases are down to a science

Sean posts emoji, update comes out the wednesday/thursday after

[ebon lynx]

there’s also reliable sources like this

signs point to tomorrow

[molten karma]

Yeah there is Gothalian himself said he was reached out and sponsored as well as another streamer on the podcast. He even emphasised they don't do sponsored streams and he feels its big.

[near forge]

Yeah he‘s clearly hyping it up

[molten karma]

That is a fact everything else is who knows.

[near forge]

You wouldn‘t do that if it wasn’t something substantial

Usually, at least

[gloomy isle]

Only thing we know is that it's probably something either big or just hype inducing

[late tusk]

watch it just be some expedition 😂 :(

(it most likley wont

[molten karma]

It isn't but it will probably include a expedition.

[near forge]

Which might or might not launch later

[gloomy isle]

Yeah there's one ready to go now iirc

Not sure what the supposed time is though

[near forge]

Afaik bomber mentioned earlier that no time has been set so far

[late tusk]

yay more things to save edit then

[distant bronze]

its either something big, or its a mechanic in game thats really impressive, something they REALLY want to show off

[near forge]

Which is why some speculate it‘s going to be like Titan but things could still change

And titan came with a big fat update heh

I wonder if those small insects flying around near the honey plants on honey deserts are meant to be some sort of bees

[molten karma]

If it is combat focused it'd make more sense tbh.

[zenith perch]

I want a station ownership update to use them

But I doubt that'll ever come because they need to figure out a way for it to not conflict in MP somehow

[molten karma]

I think that'd be perfect for them tbh. I just don't know what we'd actually do with them though.

I wouldn't be surprised if they'll add multiple base ownership and multiple corvette ownership at some point before doing spacestation ownership just for this reason.

[zenith perch]

The Echoes and WP1 leaks were something else

The Echoes one was very unfortunate genuinely

Idk who found the wp1 one

captain steve "thumbnail" unfortunately : (

[molten karma]

I still think the cover could be legit or photoshopped tbh.

[zenith perch]

I don't want asmon to play this game, i cannot stand the guy and the type of community / actions of people he promotes, it would genuinely make the nms community worse.

My issue is the genai stuff honestly, he's not a bad person from what I can tell, as i associate genai with actively low effort.

[molten karma]

Eh I think people care to much about personal politics tbh. More players the better as long as it doesn't affect HG's vision.

I think as long as its transformative it don't matter straight up AI yeah no.

[zenith perch]

Hey they're right about the sponsored stream stuff at least

10th anniversary IS huge however

This update provided it is an update and not just an expedition, will be huge, I have a feeling about it

It should be anyways, its the 10th anniversary update

This game has grown so much since NEXT

So glad they stopped doing the gimmick era update stuff

[molten karma]

I mean Gothalian said he feels its huge to since they hardly go out of there way to sponsor streamers.

[zenith perch]

Was a cool update but I've figured out their launch cadence now

[molten karma]

Yeah Beyond up to Origins killed me a bit then it was Frontiers to Worlds Part 1 lol.

[zenith perch]

They seem to target financial quarters with updates now

We're in May now

Last update was xeno arena which was last financial quarter

remnant i can't remember the release date of

[humble kayak]

Feb something

Early Feb

[zenith perch]

A money sink and a permanent mark on the universe you can expand into working w/ settlements

[molten karma]

I think remnant was feb

[zenith perch]

Imagine you establish yourself in a crime system and can dynamically reduce the crime

[humble kayak]

Feb 11th I think

[zenith perch]

Frontiers pains me

Beacon took SO long to come out

Beacon also fixed some snap issue or w/e frontiers broke

[molten karma]

Beacons convinced me Settlements will never be good lmao

[humble kayak]

Real

[zenith perch]

They just need to shave off the timers more genuinely

[gloomy isle]

Origins was when post Next NMS really hit its stride imo

[molten karma]

I mean its alight but the NPC's need more depth maybe they can take some influence from Tomodachi life lmao.

[zenith perch]

I don't want cities in this game, I'm tired of people asking for them tbh

They don't add anything really but just let us build our own instead

Thus, expand settlements

[gloomy isle]

The only context I'd enjoy cities in is big custom stations

[zenith perch]

fully upgrade a settlement to be able to turn it into a city like a trading centric one or w/e

[gloomy isle]

Maybe looking like Bespin or something idk

[zenith perch]

Connect your city to your economic network controlled heavily by your owned space station

[gloomy isle]

On planets though yeah I don't really like the idea

[zenith perch]

Big credit sink

Time investment, and something you can own and put a lot of time into

We currently don't have a long time investment thing in the game that isn't just heavy rng really

PS4/5 will get this first as usual at about 11am ish tomorrow

Xbox day 1 would be nice but I just don't expect it

[molten karma]

Having NPC live in your city to. I agree though I never cared for cities which is probably why I never cared for settlements. I think allowing NPC's to visit and walk around bases and possibly live or rest in them if you add beds would be really cool.

[zenith perch]

There's going to be a lot of heavy performance tweak stuff in this more than likely

[zenith perch]

If you've played stardew valley, you know how the notice board works?

Add something like that

They love their procgen stuff so procgenned NPC appearances with differing personalities

[native carbon]

top 5 trillogies of all time

[zenith perch]

that first one looks like ai EW

(i hope it isn't but it has that fake "realistic" look)

[native carbon]

that king bee sean in the middle is killing me

[zenith perch]

Hello [playername] I will become your settlement chef if you bring me [20] cobalt

[molten karma]

It orginates from Professor Cynicals video so it probably is.

[zenith perch]

OH GOD NO

[near forge]

Yeah I also don‘t think they match the vibe of NMS at all

[zenith perch]

If I get my system ownership update ever I'm never shutting up about it

[near forge]

NMS always has been a rather desolate world

And it was part of its core atmosphere

[molten karma]

If it was local AI it would be fine since its running off your own machine but public AI data centers are yuck which is why I'm very pro open source.

[zenith perch]

I will be more surprised than I was when beacon came out and they actually updated my settlements finally.

I just don't like genai overall tbh, it just looks REALLY bad

If they ever use it in nms I'll be sad

griff already uses ai in some capacity as he showed in a tweet and they used nms to train googles deepmind ai or something which is just sad to hear

[molten karma]

I would not be surprised if it is in some way. You'd be surprised how many industries are using AI without disclosing it small ways or reference ways.

[zenith perch]

I just don't want it in the game, its horrid

The bubble bursting eventually will be glorious

It dying as NFTs did will make me very very happy

[molten karma]

The thing is open source AI will go nowhere.

It's getting easier to run and train on local machines.

[gloomy isle]

AI is here to stay but it'll eventually stop being pushed into literally everything

[agile ether]

Man I really hope this update is actually straight up bee related. Gimme bee hives. NMS Space apiary simulator.

[molten karma]

I will tell you right now the leak is probably more legit then it being literal for bees.

[near forge]

Let‘s not turn this into AI discussions guys, even tho it hits so close with NMS lol

[humble kayak]

That's partially what I'm expecting lol

[gusty stream]

I'm not really convinced with them altering the sizes of the stock ship types

LOTS of infrastructure would need to be altered to accommodate that

And it'd render corvettes less unique?

It'd be interesting to straight up slime out NPCs though

And I do want a first person rework

[gloomy isle]

I also feel like the furnishings would need a bit more interactivity for that to be worth it

Eg the beds working etc

[gloomy isle]

Just checked and yeah Jason has had 0 response to the emoji

Given the briefings etc I'm pretty sure he knows something

[molten karma]

Yeah I do find that odd tbh.

[distant bronze]

Based on the reading of the leak, im of the opinion the guy is trying to describe small to medium NPC corvettes

[molten karma]

The thing is some things in that leak could be interrputed a couple of different ways and its hard to say for sure. Going based off his post and comment history he has no experience with NMS community outside of these post to.

[next lagoon]

What leak??

[near forge]

It‘s also very combat heavy

A bit too much imo

[molten karma]

I don't think so tbh.

I think combat is the next thing to get a major rework if they're chasing voyagers type of hype.

[near forge]

In a way yes, but HG has always been rather subtle about the way they went with combat

And straight up NPC killing?

Eh, not sure there.

[hard stirrup]

He didn't have a lot of history in on reddit in general. Seems to only have gone there a few times to talk about cosmetic surgery...so probably someone wealthy if he has money for those sorts of things. Looks like someone who casually plays games but doesn't usually care to talk about them. Assuming he didn't just get bored and decided to fake a leak he probably heard something exciting from a friend who trusts him and decided now was a good time to go spill the beans to everyone on what's coming.

[molten karma]

I don't think its to far out of the question you can already PVP and be any race in the game. Overwatch and Fortnite are the same rating with human killing and more realistic styled guns so rating wont be affected. Biological horrors literally gib and explode.

That's the thing it's hard to say somewhat. Even then we have more proof for a bigger update then it being small or expedition only.

[ebon spoke]

Other players do also ragdoll when you kill them in pvp

I don't think there's blood but its otherwise pretty much the same as killing creatures

[near forge]

Hmm

Well ig maybe they‘re open to opt more into that kind of gameplay but I‘m still a bit skeptical

[ebon spoke]

killing npcs to steal their ships would be a terrible addition, imo. There's a reason we can't steal ships even though it's been a much requested feature since before launch.

[hot trout]

They do?

[ebon spoke]

Once you're able to steal ships, there's no reason to ever buy them. All the balance that comes from better ships being more expensive goes completely out the window

[crystal scarab]

totally out of the loop sorry but do we think this leak is legit?

[near forge]

I generally really hope they don‘t touch the og starships ever again

I like their simplicity in comparison to the corvettes

[ebon spoke]

#no-mans-sky message added fairly recently but wasn't in any of the patch notes

[molten karma]

Somewhat. Also unless factions get a overhaul to have consequences ship stealing is a bad idea

[hot trout]

Oh my gosh, lol

[hard stirrup]

I wouldn't know. I have never done PvP and in over 8000 hours in the game I have less than 10 in multiplayer. I almost never do it at all.

[molten karma]

If anything that video kind of proves the leak more credible and that they're working on something combat related.

[zenith perch]

what video

They can work on as many combat things as they want

But until they nerf us, it won't do much

[dense quartz]

I never thought we'd get destroyable freighters but here we are.

[zenith perch]

and reminder, people got pissy the last time a nerf happened which lead to patch 4.08 bringing into NMS the supercharged slots thing

[near forge]

Could also increase resistances of mobs tbf

[zenith perch]

Nerf us or give us combat encounters with actual mechanics

You can but then that just promotes overkilling things

[distant bronze]

im honestly curious at the supposed player trade rework, does this mean the ability to sell ships are finally here

[gusty stream]

I mean we can already blow up starships

[zenith perch]

I just don't think combat in nms will feel great ever tbh

Which is fine, not everything will always work out

[gusty stream]

Not the same was walking up to someone's ship and icing them out but still same concept

[near forge]

I sort of like the combat in NMS cause it has this freestyle feeling, albeit it mostly lacks challenge if you put even a little effort into optimizing your gear

NMS combat just feels really really gamey

Not in the professional way, but has its own charm

[hot trout]

Its kinda suspicious in a few ways. The title format is the exact same as worlds part 2, and those old page margins dont match the typical texture hg uses

[gloomy isle]

It's not the most readable colour scheme either

[near forge]

Just „hive“ would sound a lot cooler too, imo.

[ebon spoke]

The planet also looks weird to me. The atmosphere halo and clouds textures we see on planets in game is missing

[dense quartz]

Nms combat has that "1$ Unity streamer bait meme game" feel to it. I wouldn't call it good lol.

[near forge]

It‘s def not „good“ but you can tell that someone tried their best with the means given lol

[native carbon]

yeah thats what also is bugging me out but like, you can see a brown grass lush planet in the background, doesnt scream AI, looks somewhat high quality'ish. its either a very well made fake leak, or real, but its most likely fake

[hot trout]

I feel like the spacing in "Hivemind" is a bit weird, too, but that could just be me

[gloomy isle]

Format is reused, weathering looks off, spacing is weird, colour scheme is muddy and not very readable

[zenith perch]

The combat will genuinely not improve unless they nerf people

[native carbon]

nahh i can totally see HG doing that

[gloomy isle]

That's my read on it anyway

[zenith perch]

The community couldn't handle the 3 slots limitation in the pre 4.08 hotfix update waypoint patch

[near forge]

It only appears that way, the distances are similar between the letters

[zenith perch]

Its fine idm the combat not being great

[gloomy isle]

Also that's a pre existing cosmetic in the bottom left

[near forge]

Identical, actually

I think

[zenith perch]

the one thing i want traversal wise is boost toggling for ships

[near forge]

They should be

[zenith perch]

I hate holding the button down

if that's a leak i want the person who leaked it to explain the source and give me the full screenshot otherwise i'm calling bullshit

[hot trout]

It could be the background is AI generated with the title edited in

[dense quartz]

Yep, it's a player in the bottom holding a staff.

[near forge]

Well we‘ll know in less than a day most likely

[zenith perch]

It's not meant to be blacephalon but its quite funny you're circling that like a clickbait youtube vid and that its a low quality jpeg looking image

[winter plover]

You don't have to use ai to make a fake though, it could just easily be a screenshot, or a combination of them, with a couple of filters applied, the text masked out and taken from the wpII title card, and you can find the font HG uses for the game pretty easily to add your own subtitle

[hard stirrup]

Dude, that wasn't a nerf...that was total obliteration. That one update destroyed months and months of ship hunting and kitting out with tech. The 4 SC slots didn't make us op, it somehat balanced the scales. Even now the absolute best explorer range you can get is ~3575ly while before it was 3975ly. And even after they fixed the balance issues I had to replace all but 1 of my ships and all but 1 of my multitools, and my freighter...it legit took me over 2 years to recover from the damage done by Waypoint.

[native carbon]

the background is not AI. its a brown grass lush planet

[dense quartz]

The community was in a civil war during Waypoint lol. It was annoying.

[native carbon]

im 100% sure its not

[near forge]

For stuff like warp ranges it makes sense yeah but weapon damage genuinely is simply too op

Its why combat is so easy

[native carbon]

ngl i kinda want it to be fake, just so i can be surprised tomorrow

[near forge]

Or the enemies too weak…take your pick

[glass flare]

and the sentinel AT-STs are pushovers now

[hard stirrup]

That update made me stop playing the game for 5 months...damn near made me quit playing the game permanently...outside of that gap I never stopped playing even for a week.

[glass flare]

but they also massively nerfed pirate strength

[near forge]

Dogs and Mechs are literally more fearsome than those

[gloomy isle]

If this is real istg

[native carbon]

the damm dog is the true boss i swear

[near forge]

But I feel like the walker has been bugged tbh

Not as extremely as the brood mother, but still

It never recovers now once you have disabled the legs

[native carbon]

shes fixed no?

[gloomy isle]

The brood mother is hilarious lol

[near forge]

Yup apparently they finally got to her

[glass flare]

the stun weapon really destroyed the tension of those encounters. I remember NMS 1.0, those things were fearsome. just seeing one filled me with dread

[native carbon]

after like a year

[dense quartz]

I forgot if they fixed the broken mother. She is hilariously broken

[zenith perch]

Waypoint just tried to make things less bullshit and the community couldn't really handle it

[humble kayak]

What time do updates come out, does anyone know

[zenith perch]

I think we're arguably stronger now

[native carbon]

they fixed her, i remember testing it

[zenith perch]

supercharged slots were an absurd addition

[worldly plover]

Couldn’t it be the new planet type tho

[zenith perch]

Like I've seen MILLIONS of damage a second on dps displays

[gloomy isle]

The supercharged slots are a lot more interesting than just double stacking your mods in both inventories

[grizzled apex]

12-1 UK time I think?

[zenith perch]

It really depends tbh

I've been in this channel like 10am ish uk time and they came out a little after those released

[near forge]

That is true, I feel like the stats and stat boosts would just need to be reduced heavily.

[gloomy isle]

Will be around 16 hours from now, give or take

[dense quartz]

Yeah they were patched in as a reacting to the outrage lol

[gloomy isle]

Idm if they keep it easy if it just feels better tbh. Maybe add new difficulty options too

[near forge]

Like the stat caps for all upgrades should be significantly lower

[ebon spoke]

Not unless they're completely changing planet visuals. The only real difference between most biomes when viewed from space is the surface texture, there's way more than that that's off here

[near forge]

Making enemies more bullet spongie would also work ig, they simply have too little health in comparison to our absurd damage numbers.

The AI is another topic entirely…

[hot trout]

I feel like it has that blurry pattern, but idk, could be the poor quality

[gloomy isle]

Unless they're redoing the space visuals quite a bit or it's a new planet then yeah it looks super off

[native carbon]

nah trust me its a brown lush planet

[near forge]

Paralyzer is op for sure

[humble kayak]

Ok thanks folks

[near forge]

It‘s a bit strange to me that it works on all enemies too, I‘ve always thought of it as an EMP Weapon, but it stuns the buggers as well

[gloomy isle]

The atmosphere is usually way more visible on all planets though

[native carbon]

why cannot it be tomorrow already

[native carbon]

i think the player is on the moon in the """"leaked"""" title card

i feel like its just a NMS screenshot with heavy filtering, adding some real looking stuff around and call it the day

[hot trout]

Then the atmosphere should be visible on the background planet

[native carbon]

not always

[gloomy isle]

Even more visible then

[native carbon]

or maybe its the """"infected""""" planets the """leaker""" was talking about with like a different atmosphere or stuff

[gloomy isle]

This is stretching things tbh

We'll see though ig

[hot trout]

Ngl id rather the worm infested planets come back

[native carbon]

TRUE from adrift

[worldly plover]

Have leaks been right in the past?

[native carbon]

yes

[hot trout]

Like the ones with the system label and cursed dust

[native carbon]

yuppp

[gloomy isle]

Almost never like this. Once with origins, and the others have been accidental releases from official news sources

[dense quartz]

What was leaked for Origins?

[gloomy isle]

Details on the whole update over on ETARC

[native carbon]

WP1 was leaked, Aquarius was leaked, like half of WP2 was leaked from datamining

[gloomy isle]

From some gaming journalist

[native carbon]

corvettes were datamined

[gloomy isle]

Apparently he got fired

[zenith perch]

Bullet sponginess would not be interesting to verse

You need mechanics

wp1 was leaked from a chinese website iirc

[worldly plover]

Only thing I can think of would be the press package got sent to the sponsored streamers today and someone leaked it

[zenith perch]

echoes accidentally got published early on eurogamer

[native carbon]

Xbox is the funniest one though

[hot trout]

Imagine theres another leak but its completely different from the reddit one

[zenith perch]

aquarius being published early in a blurb was admittedly a bit funny ig

[gloomy isle]

Actual malicious leaks have only happened for origins afaik

[native carbon]

like one hour earlier XBOX posted a "fishing update is here!"

[zenith perch]

I don't remember origins being leaked

[near forge]

I can understand this perspective, but to me like clearing derelicts which are supposed to be places of suspense and tension became so lame once I realized nothing on there could genuinely threaten me.

Granted, if derelicts were to become actually challenging, they‘d need to revamp the grind for freighter inventory and tech cause it would just become even more tedious to go through this process then.

[winter plover]

datamines are a little different, since it's data directly from HG and they almost certainly know what's in it and that we'll see it.

[gloomy isle]

I remember some guy talking about all the biomes, volcanoes etc and no one believed him

[native carbon]

imagine its the same dude /jk

[hard stirrup]

All that was really datamined about WP2 was the Atlantid drive so we knew there would be purple star systems...but nobody had any idea about what would be in purple systems...we had no idea about gas and non-gas, giants, deep oceans, and the overall weirdness of the other biomes there...there are some really crazy biome variations in purple systems.

[native carbon]

oh
deep ocean planets
pressure
new desert planets
purple systems
manta ray
new ocean planets
ruin planets
transparent striders

all of that was datamined

[gloomy isle]

Yeah a lot of assets and biomes got leaked along with fauna

[runic mesa]

So was Echoes, I recall. Like a few hours before Steam released.

[native carbon]

transparent strider, ruins

[gloomy isle]

At least half the update tbh

New shallow ocean assets too I think

[native carbon]

yup

[gloomy isle]

Essentially everything from after worlds part 1 until (and including) voyagers was datamined well in advance

Iirc at least

[ebon spoke]

Deep ocean mechanics were datamined from WPI. We also technically knew about the waterworlds as well, but those were first added all the way back in Origins and we didn't really have any indication that they were going to be finally implemented (but you could've guessed because we knew new stars and deep water mechanics were coming)

[native carbon]

yup, that idea was brought back when pressure was datamined

[gloomy isle]

People were definitely putting 2 and 2 together with the water worlds at that stage though

[grizzled apex]

Echoes' article was pushed a fair bit earlier iirc?

[runic mesa]

Probably was! That's 3 years ago now, my memory is probably spotty

[grizzled apex]

I remember rushing to the pc to set up a mirror way past update time, so it likely wasn't the same day

[runic mesa]

But was there definitely a Chinese article leaking the Autophage before release.

[native carbon]

Echoes was 3 years ago?!

Jeez

[runic mesa]

2023

[grizzled apex]

Oh really?
There was a chinese article leaking WP1 earlier but I don't remember something like that for echoes

[native carbon]

man why is time passing so fast after 2020

[gloomy isle]

I remember seeing the art maybe a week before release?

[hot trout]

Game has been out for longer after 2020 than before

[native carbon]

insane

[grizzled apex]

I remember the channel going into frenzy when the images dropped lol, begging the poster to translate

[runic mesa]

Switch 1 port will be 4 years old in October

[native carbon]

that was waypoint right?

thats when i joined NMS, right after waypoint

[hot trout]

Baby

Recent player

So very new

[native carbon]

im sorry 😭

[hard stirrup]

Including 2020 itself that's six and a half years here in six days out of nine years and nine months...it's crazy to think about.

[runic mesa]

blows raspberry 😛

[native carbon]

BUT HEY, I played NMS in 2016 on my friend's playstation

[hot trout]

It okay, your elders will guide you

[hot trout]

dang, I didnt get to do that

[grizzled apex]

Goddamn, the full duration of 10 years is starting to sink in now

[native carbon]

i only played it for like 3 hours, my friend wanted to show me a diplo he found

i also remember these weird mineral deposit towers

[cosmic anvil]

then I'm a newborn (Relics player)

[grizzled apex]

Ya mean to tell me I've been borderline obsessed with this thing for that long??

[cosmic anvil]

no sleep? 😂

[runic mesa]

Don't think about it too hard

[hot trout]

Literal infant

[native carbon]

fetus

[hot trout]

Ive said it before, theres a part of my brain that still considers sentinel interceptors to be "rather new"

[gloomy isle]

It's crazy how at launch, 6 months of support seemed like a pipe dream lmao

[native carbon]

okay these dont feel fresh to me but it feels like they released a year ago

[grizzled apex]

Before update days? Not much

During WT? Absolutely No Chance

During Skyscraper? 🙏

[cosmic anvil]

120 months and counting baby XD

[grizzled apex]

Most of the Atlantid stuff feels like it just released in my mind despite how many years ago it was atp.

[cosmic anvil]

Imagine the Architect is snooping around here and sees this rofl

[native carbon]

dont worry pal! skyscraper has 5 more seasons to go to keep you entertained for the ENTIRE year!

[hot trout]

Exactly, lol

[gloomy isle]

At this rate NMS will end up lasting longer than the Destiny franchise did 😭

[midnight saffron]

I think the only thing I contributed during waking titan was during the hamster maze part.

[cosmic anvil]

they will quit work and take this on fulltime 🤣 /s

[grizzled apex]

Don't give em ideas!

[grizzled apex]

You're tempting me 😛

[native carbon]

and then, at the end of skyscraper, theres a little note saying:

"all of your theories are wrong and you just wasted a bunch of time"
-Sean

[hot trout]

That feels too mean for sean tbh

[cosmic anvil]

this is like the Cloverfield ARG

When JJ Abrams just nuked the lore established by the ARG in an interview 15+ years after the movie

[gloomy isle]

To be fair I think that's already waking titan 😂

[cosmic anvil]

I wouldn't mind a retcon for that given I wasn't around for NMS then 😛

[native carbon]

imagine its just an update adding catching insects like from animal crossing?
i would mess with that and i bet @runic mesa would love it

[hot trout]

Minecraft 1.15 buzzy bees update but in nms

[native carbon]

hey im in! i love bees

[hard stirrup]

I didn't believe that. I plat the game in like 18 days from launch or something like that and crossed six galaxies before the Foundation update...under the harshest inventory and warp length conditions we ever had...I think warp range cap was like 1,651ly or something like that, items didn't stack, etc. After Foundation I remember maxing out albumen pearl farms as my one planetary base and on my freighter and then I found a system where they sold at like +95% and I farmed them for like 100 hours which allowed me to keep buying new freighters with +1 slot until I had a 48 slot Resurgent Venator. Throughout all the updates the only time I quit was for 5 months when Waypoint destroyed everything I had.

[runic mesa]

Honestly, I'd be all over that lol

[gloomy isle]

Do you remember ilovebees

GOAT arg

[native carbon]

nah... sorry

[native carbon]

10/10 update

[cosmic anvil]

I love honey

I love Laylaps

[tough sigil]

I am having such fun Telamon-NOT-Telamon! @cosmic anvil

[cosmic anvil]

are you ready for the UPDATE my friend?

[hot trout]

The plan continues in its inevitable motion

[near forge]

@tough sigil can you say something else again plz?

It‘s been very long…

[native carbon]

imagine Sean watching this chat rn, holding popcorn and just laughin

[near forge]

Who made the Laylaps bot? Is that information available?

[cosmic anvil]

probably Doc

[nimble heath]

I heard he has full control of the bots.

[cosmic anvil]

like everything else here

[cosmic anvil]

nahhh I don't think Sean has anything over this server. It has his blessings sure but the team is the one in control I think

[near forge]

So when Laylaps answers differently it might just be doc pushing some buttons?

[native carbon]

huh? i thought laylaps is a real being?

[nimble heath]

No. Sean Murray has control over the bots. Sometimes when they talk it’s him.

[native carbon]

:*(

[cosmic anvil]

never seen Laylaps answer anything else other than the Welcome message in #echoes＆whispers and this Telamon thing

[near forge]

Laylaps did answer me something else once actually

A „no u“!

[cosmic anvil]

What if Sean is just a highly advanced android?

[near forge]

Or something along those lines

[nimble heath]

I would bet on it.

[hard stirrup]

Or it just responds to very few phrases it recognizes.

[dense quartz]

Good. We'll keep getting free updates till we're old.

[hot trout]

Ngl I'd believe it even if laylaps said that in-game

[cosmic anvil]

HELLO FRIEND

[gloomy isle]

If this really is the big one I hope we get something to do in EVA

[cosmic anvil]

WE ARE TEAM

[mental socket]

Am seeing the hivemind thing and that one reddit user surface repeatedly in convos. Is there any merit to those "leaks" like the previous volcano thing from journalist. Or is it just assumptions and speculation?

[gloomy isle]

The latter rn

[worldly plover]

I think they are just adding bees with Sean’s face

[native carbon]

fun fact: in less then 17ish hours we will see if the leak is real or not

[near forge]

Imagine HG doing a Thursday drop now

I would not survive!

[native carbon]

i would die

[dense quartz]

It just looks very convincing.
If it's a fake, then someone went out of their way to make a whole ass cover by hand. There's no way to confirm it's fake.

[hot trout]

"Sorry, the studio was overwhelmed by a sudden swarm of bees and we had to evacuate, update delayed until tomorrow"

[native carbon]

LOOOL

[glass flare]

I remember the days of one update per year. the new players don't understand the pain we went through lol

[near forge]

Well when you are fully expecting something and it differs from that expectation it‘s a bit different

[dense quartz]

Okay so I went back to look at every update cover and the only ones that have different tears are Path Finder and The Abyss.
And none of them look like the tears from the apparent reddit leak.

[near forge]

Do both of those use the same „alternate“ version then?

[glass flare]

there was one early update where instead of the update dropping, they announced a date months away. so yeah I get that. but an extra day wait is light work compared to that haha

[dense quartz]

Yep.

Some covers have the tears faded out a bit when the title is big, but yeah it's all the same template except those other 2 covers using a different template.

[hot trout]

Im still kinda hoping for the title to be "Colony"

[near forge]

I have no idea rly, I put in a bunch of hours at launch, played some pathfinder, atlas rises and NEXT…but I didn‘t really keep track of it that well.

Only got back to the game because of a friend reminding me of it having been updated

After I „quit“ 1.0…I had just forgotten about it for a bit

Which made me sad, cuz I only discoverd waking titan in retrospect

[grizzled apex]

https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/future-update-speculation/8823/370?u=thatbomberboi

Wonder if they're talking about the Reddit one, or something else?

[glass flare]

the feeling when 1.1 (Foundation) dropped out of the blue was amazing. I kept telling people, "HG isn't giving up on this game" but even I was surprised when it finally appeared

[native carbon]

maybe

[hard stirrup]

Now that is interesting...ETARC is owned by HG...if they are responding to this it could be a PR move for damage control. If anything this makes me more inclined to think the leak might be legit than if they never said anything.

[viral geyser]

Holy shit

Is that the first time they’ve acknowledged a leak?

[near forge]

Despite me not following it after dropping it I fully expected it kinda.

Probably because I felt like those guys really wanted to be independent game developers, and if they didn‘t commit to „fixing“ NMS that dream would have likely been over

[native carbon]

Wait huh?

that website is OWNED by HG?

[grizzled apex]

No. The leaders there are community members, not HG appointed

[grizzled apex]

No, this has nothing to do with HG officially

[native carbon]

oh

alr

thanks Bomber for clarification

[near forge]

One of the HG mods has gotten active there again recently though no?

[grizzled apex]

Funded by HG and they retain admin controls. Nothing else

[near forge]

This „Anashel“ or something like that person?

[glass flare]

pretty sure they own the actual site and DNS, unless they handed it over to community people

[viral geyser]

But that puts more validity that the leak is real

Holy shit

[glass flare]

I mean originally it was directly part of the ARG

[native carbon]

meh not really

[winter plover]

Not that there was any real doubt, but hard confirmed update tomorrow now I guess

[native carbon]

only slightly

[grizzled apex]

No, that is the WT puppetmaster who recently left Alice and smith

[ebon spoke]

Old Gods is the HG account on there

[near forge]

Ah got ya, still interesting tho

[grizzled apex]

They own it in terms of paying for it. They do not interact with the community there directly.

[native carbon]

im very conflicted right now, half of me is sayin its real
other half is sayin its obviously fake

[grizzled apex]

It really doesn't. This is as good a confirmation as a Reddit post. Completely community driven

[near forge]

Oh Anashel even is on this server huh

[grizzled apex]

God I shouldn't have sent the link

[native carbon]

its ok. remember that one time i sent a "brainrot" meme to hello games?

by accident?

[molten karma]

Did something happened I turn by back for a hour lol

[hard stirrup]

Sure, sure, but I'm sure at least one Admin is a HG employee and can get in contact or be contacted by HG if something is on fire. I'm pretty sure I don't believe that HG never ever have any kind of communication with anyone there or never get word from HG. That's likely a PR image so people don't pester them with "Tell Sean..." or "Let HG know..." or "Why don't moderators know what the update content will be?" lol. People get dumb when they think they can just push someone who can talk to HG.

[grizzled apex]

Your stalking of the Reddit leak guy might've given us a hint about project Skyscraper lol

I used the tool to check other posts for the deleted Reddit account and found one

[native carbon]

@molten karma

[molten karma]

I don't like the term stalking but yeah

[grizzled apex]

Ahh, tracking might be better

[viral geyser]

I mean you did use an archive machine to look at his deleted posts

[native carbon]

that isnt really stalking

stalking is like you are following someone in person

[late tusk]

i hope this doesnt have anything to do with settlements tbh i want combat lol

[viral geyser]

Cyberstalking my friend

[molten karma]

I mean I don't really care tbh. XD It's not interest of the dude personally I just wanted answers on the leak.

[glass flare]

that kind of stuff is generally discouraged in ARGs

[gloomy isle]

It seems the mod just saw people talking about the (probably fake) reddit leak tbh

[molten karma]

So it seems the leak is looking more legit then that's cool.

Sucks for HG though especially with all that content.

[gloomy isle]

I mean, it's a community appointed mod. They won't have any more info than we do

[glass flare]

it's always a risk when you involve more third parties and give them prerelease content I guess

[gloomy isle]

They probably just saw the discussion here and thought it best to warn people

[molten karma]

I mean if the ARG is legit they probably have to know something... Right? lol

[cosmic anvil]

tomorrow a lot will happen, expect a slowmode 😂

[molten karma]

Damn maybe I should've made people make a pact with me. Someone would've owed me their house lmao

[gloomy isle]

No one even knows if that's legit either, to be honest

Even then the mods there aren't going to know

[glass flare]

there was that one person who was adamant that the leak was fake, should've pacted with them lol

[gloomy isle]

They're playing too

[molten karma]

I think to much is aligning up for both to be fake.

I get being skeptical but like come on now.

[cosmic anvil]

I was a glorious Desktop once, a misfired pact is why I'm a crappy Laptop

[molten karma]

Sounds like a line from isekai vending machine lmao

[native carbon]

hahahahaa

[molten karma]

Love this community man

[hot trout]

These past couple days would be the best time to post a fake leak to make it seem real

[cosmic anvil]

you... you said I would win 😭

[gloomy isle]

I don't really see what lines up with the supposed leak?

[native carbon]

hehe

[gloomy isle]

Other than one mod seeing it and warning people

[molten karma]

Not so much the leak but the ARG

[gloomy isle]

I could see the ARG being real for sure

If tomorrow is a part one or whatever, that will be enough to convince me

[willow thorn]

What’s the leak? The bee update?

[gloomy isle]

If it's the big update but with no part 2 then I'd be in the camp if it being fanmade

[molten karma]

This is exciting times for NMS and hell of a way to relight that fire for Light No Fire.

[cosmic anvil]

BIG BEE

[worldly plover]

It’s the leak update they are adding leaks

[cosmic anvil]

Release date of Extinguish All Water will probably be announced at some PlayStation conference or Game Awards, I don't think HG would want to distract from NMS. But we will see :)

[gloomy isle]

If this is the yearly update I do think there's a high probability it'll be like Echoes but with some cool stuff enabled with new engine tech

Imo

[molten karma]

My biggest bitching point about the leak isn't the content but the fact LNF will overtake the NMS 10th anniversary. :p But whos says NMS cant have another thing planned for the 10th anniversary to.

[viral geyser]

I mean the leak didn’t say nothing is coming for no moms sky for the anniversary

They just said the big update is coming earlier

[native carbon]

no moms sky

[molten karma]

If this is all legit we should give Sean money for plastic surgery

or a bbl

[cosmic anvil]

All Woman's Ground will probably have a great anniversary nevertheless

[viral geyser]

Going from posting about plastic surgery to no mans sky leaks is funny

Especially if it’s legit

[molten karma]

It'll be one for memes to come

[native carbon]

dude what are you talking about 😭

[molten karma]

I wonder how Sean feels about that if true

[gloomy isle]

One thing I could see them doing is swapping the big update and the usual expedition/ small update over. Big update soon, then a 10 years of NMS celebration event in August or something like that

[molten karma]

Biggest update of the year for most important milestone and some plastic surgery is the meme to take it all.

[molten karma]

brazillian butt lift

[native carbon]

i know what a BBL is but like

actually nvm

NVM

[molten karma]

😉

[hot trout]

Apparently the guy who posted the leak has almost no nms content in their post history

[molten karma]

Do you need to hear the internet historians redacted again?

[hot trout]

But what they do have is plastic surgery, I think

[native carbon]

it can lead into 2 ways

ngl

but its most likely fake

[molten karma]

I'm 50/50 now

I'm sorry it's just hard to go any lower at this point and that's the best I can do.

[hard stirrup]

Or much of any content...like a dozen posts total and less than 50 comments. Not really someone who normally uses social media but also not a new account created for this leak.

[molten karma]

The shitposty nature makes me want to believe in it even more

[native carbon]

maybe the update will be about plastic surgery?

/jk

[hot trout]

Appearance modifier update, lol

[molten karma]

Man Sean really needs to add a handsome squidward like face for a vykeen

[native carbon]

gek with a BBL

[glass flare]

let's keep this about NMS and not about the poster's personal history...

[molten karma]

I think it's going to be hard to stop the memes if legit I hate to say this.

That connection will forever be there intentional or not

[viral geyser]

I agree even if the leak is real/fake we shouldn’t invade their privacy

[molten karma]

Like you don't even need to dig for that info it's literally a post right underneath the leak post its right there lmao

[dense quartz]

I'm looking through the inspect element of the skyscrapper website and it's mentioning stuff like

"wp-emoji-release.min.js?ver=7.0"
"/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/"
"/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/svg/"

And it's links to places that I don't have access to.

[ebon spoke]

ETARC post about potential leak was just about this, I believe:

[native carbon]

OFC

[molten karma]

Which is the reddit leak we've been talking about

[ebon spoke]

yeah, not a new broken embargo

[molten karma]

Also to be fair guilty I sent captain the screenshots. XD

[native carbon]

WHAT

[molten karma]

I'm in the vid referenced directly

[hot trout]

Bruh

[worldly plover]

If that leak is real the coolest part sounds like npcs having corvettes

[molten karma]

DatTwiterGuy

[native carbon]

betrayal

[left iron]

I feel like this server is gonna explode tomorrow, it's already exploding with all the confusion

[native carbon]

oh it will 100%

[molten karma]

My favorite thing in Halo is a match of capture the flag with a map with a cliff driving a warthog and driving everyone off that damn cliff jumping out last minute.

[left iron]

What if the leak is orchestrated by HG to hype up the update

[gloomy isle]

Watch it be a massive update but completely different lmao

(atp I genuinely don't think this is unlikely)

[left iron]

Now everyone is talking

[molten karma]

I assume it will even have more then whats crazy this sounds like main content generally patch notes have a lot more minor things that are sometimes just as significant if not more so.

[viral geyser]

Bro cobra even made a video about the leak

He hasn’t made a NMs video in years

[gloomy isle]

💀💀💀

[distant bronze]

You know, i wouldn't put it past them, Sean murry has proven to be a fairly shrude one in the marketing department

[native carbon]

we all gonna look like a CLOWN tomorrow

[gloomy isle]

IT'S SO DUBIOUS

I don't get it

[left iron]

Why do people now think the leak is legit

[zinc moth]

what not having 3 bee emojis does to a playerbase

[gloomy isle]

I have no clue lol

[next lagoon]

Cobras definitely in on it

[hard stirrup]

The leaker IMO fits the profile of a casual, one of the millions who play but basically never gets online to talk about games, but now hear from a buddy about some stuff that's about to drop and he caught the hype train big time that he just had to get online and go spill the beans lol...or he just got bored and decided to make up a leak...though he would have to have a surprisingly deep knowledge of the past couple of years' updates to make up that story, and to know updates normally release on Wednesdays specifically, which I wouldn't expect from a total casual.

[molten karma]

Atlas65 forum post a mod acknowledging it

[left iron]

Yeah and mby the contents of it are fake to an extent if so

[molten karma]

A combat reworking will bring in the casuals and hype them up

[native carbon]

i dont

[gloomy isle]

The one NMS creator I absolutely believe is in on something is Jason

He's not even reacted to the bee emoji and now we know that creators are getting briefed

[molten karma]

Jason has not posted a single thing

[gloomy isle]

He's usually all over it, and it's not like he's inactive rn

[hot trout]

I mean, its not too difficult to get a summary, especially with how the features in the leak share a suspicious similarity to major features from recent updates

[left iron]

He has a lot of grammatical/typing errors

[molten karma]

I think its because he knows something and I think variety and combat is obvious.

[glass flare]

the only thing that seemed interesting to me about the leak is them saying the anniversary update is happening now, and then we find out that HG is doing paid streams. I think we were all expecting a small update this time, so that's interesting. but far far from any real evidence that they have any insider knowledge

[native carbon]

for me its 50/50 real or not but im more leaning towards the fake

[hot trout]

Im still leaning fake

[left iron]

But either way the fact streamers are being briefed is enough for hype

[hard stirrup]

Doesn't seem like the type of thing he ever did before for any game.

[ebon lynx]

have we even gotten the cowboy or gib emoji's yet?

[molten karma]

I don't know after Worlds Part 2 landing in January changed my view point on a lot of things tbh

[ebon lynx]

if not, seems kinda odd that we haven't

[native carbon]

thats for tomorrow

[distant bronze]

Doesn't have to be 100% accurate, even if its 60% accurate, it and the streamer boosts have gotten the hype train roaring right now, which means on some level HG WANTS eyes on this update

[ebon lynx]

i see

[gloomy isle]

At this stage I do think we're in for a large update. That I could see them putting it out earlier than usual and havering a 10 year anniversary expedition and a smaller celebratory update on the day

[molten karma]

Even there small updates have been quite big ever since Worlds tbh

[distant bronze]

Also as to the 10 year anniversary, Could be a Serious Deep dive into LNF, as well as their first Seasonal content drop for things like Xeno arena and other new activities they dropped in game

[molten karma]

Despite how you feel about the last two updates they add a lot under the hood.

[native carbon]

all i know is that we gonna look like a bunch of clowns tomorrow possibly

[worldly plover]

We look like clowns today so we definitely will tomorrow

[hot trout]

The only way I would is if the leak is real

[dense quartz]

Oh yeah, Atlantis (or whatever he's called) basically has a new store similar to the quicksilver store where you'll get to collect new rewards, right? I wonder if this update will plop something new in there.

[molten karma]

At least we had fun and made new friends? along the way

[native carbon]

the real hivemind is the friends we made along the way

[molten karma]

I don't think we'll see more from leaky boy. 🙁 Reddit bullied him off.

[dense quartz]

Imagine thinking people will believe if when you crop things out.

[next lagoon]

What if the leaker is Sean??

[hot trout]

Granted, the mysterious source apparently cropped it

[molten karma]

To be fair it's looking more 50/50 now then it was earlier.

[hot trout]

However, it being cropped is a part of why I think the image may have been AI generated, at least in part

[molten karma]

Despite my constant talk back I was leaning more towards it being fake like 70/30 but I don't know either way its fun.

[hot trout]

Eh, as heated as arguments can be, I still prefer ideas to be challenged

[near forge]

All of this has only confused me more

[molten karma]

If this is legit how does that make you feel about the lore and approach though? You seem super into it and seemed like some of the stuff urked you because of it.

[near forge]

Which ig might be a good thing

„I know that I know nothing“

[hot trout]

It would frustrate me quite a bit, a lot of the leak involving new race and infested stuff seems to directly contradict the direction the lore has been heading regarding the void mother

Its not entirely out of the question, given that the Abyss (another identity of the void mother) has continued with themes of corruption, and it could be an attempt to unify those two aspects

[left iron]

Why would they introduce another Korvax/Autophage race?

[molten karma]

I mean I'm not super into the lore outside of what the main questlines tell you but couldn't it be a corruption or some kind of duplicate if it was similar to the autophage?

[hard stirrup]

No chance...it would mean Sean was betrayed by a close friend whom he trusted enough to tell details of an upcoming update to and then that trusted friend went to reddit and went "Reeeeee! Here, let me spill all the secrets to everyone."

[near forge]

The plan described in the senti pillars does set up a scenario where the ones behind it sorta need to be antagonists towards us

[hot trout]

Thats sort of the problem. The autophage being revealed was framed like it was a huge deal (and it was), making another new race makes the autophage feel less impactful

[molten karma]

Sean would be dirty for using someones pic and talking about plastic surgery if it was him.

[left iron]

It doesn't make sense 1st the Autophage were corrupted Korvax and now you get corrupted Autophage?

[molten karma]

Ah I see your point and I get it.

[hot trout]

And theres another thing with the "corruption"

Corruption doesnt mean the same thing as "bad"

[molten karma]

Like the simulation is failing even more.

What if the lore contradicting itself is all a part of the Atlas dying though?

[hard stirrup]

I don't think Sean needs plastic surgery.

[hot trout]

From what I can tell, the void mother is trying to change what the Atlas' systems are capable of

Modifying a system to do something different than its intended purpose is a corruption

[near forge]

Not entirely out of the window, perhaps there could be autophage who would be against the forced merging of the travellers.

The Autophage embrace and value individuality, so some of them might be upset by travellers being forced into a situation sorta akin to that of the Korvax

[hushed wyvern]

the void mother is trying to survive the dying of the atlas, and something abou nanites in water or something i dont remember all

[hot trout]

It sounds kinda wild when I say it outright, but I'm convinced the game updates are literally canon and orchestrated by the void mother via those nanites

[distant bronze]

To be fair, the Void and its Autophage have slowly but surely be asserting itself, and a very common theme seems to have been abandonment, stands to reason some of them that returned to physical bodies are spiteful

[hot trout]

Then theres the timing of the ARG, which if its official, and should it tie into Waking Titan... that could suggest something along the lines of a reveal as insane as the Void Mother being a version of Emily

[hushed wyvern]

to be honest bee=hive mind=mother void/autophages was my first train of thought too when i saw the emoticon but i dont belive this leak its true

[near forge]

The „daughter“ of atlas actually having been a sort of comforting mother figure for it all along then

[hot trout]

Or a daughter made in image of a predecessor

[hard stirrup]

Like the systems with Atlas stations? Those seem like important anchors for the reality of the simulations...corrupting or changing those could cause unforeseen consequences...if the Void Mother has like a great plan for how it will work things won't likely go according to plan and she'll likely only get a part of what she wants...and even if that's most of it or almost all but not all of it...the struggle for power could break the simulations entirely and eliminate both her and the Atlas...sounds like playing with TNT in the playground.

[hot trout]

I mean... yeah, thats what shes doing. Reality has been becoming less stable as her presence becomes increasingly integrated into the Atlas' systems

And we are the ones who helped her do it

If what I think is true, we've been helping her do it since the weekend missions

[near forge]

This would have also happened without her though, just in different ways ig.

From the VM‘s pov she‘s certainly doing „the right thing“.

[hot trout]

The Atlas is flawed, I dont think it can comprehend the idea that if it changed its system enough, it could survive its impending death

[left iron]

Tomorrow when we actually get an insect update in NMS, new class of creatures and you can be an entomologist

[hard stirrup]

Welp...what could possibly go wrong, right?

[hot trout]

Worst case scenario, the multiverse collapses into one and eventually dies with the Atlas

[near forge]

Nah cuz HG won‘t end things this way surely

[hot trout]

I mean, the closest we have to a timescale gives us millennia before the final minute

[near forge]

Also true but

I feel like we should be getting some sort of conclusion to this story arc eventually

At least I‘d hope that

[hot trout]

Sure, but I dont think a true conclusion is happening soon

If anything, I would think the meta narrative would reach some sort of conclusion for the sixteenth anniversary

[worldly plover]

Just read the “leak” again sounds like something my buddy Eric would say at 3 am

Not buying it

[near forge]

Do you really think we are thinking that far ahead?

That would be insane lol

[hot trout]

I thought it was insane until I saw how early some of this storyline was being built up

[worldly plover]

The part I don’t get is when they say most ships are 2-3x bigger that would affect every part of the game and cause so many problems

[near forge]

Fair point ig

HG have proven themselves to be very…ambitious

[hard stirrup]

I doubt they can plan long term development precisely enough to say "Yup, this update will def make it out in 2032." I think they have a plan for the main story and big game changing features to go along with them but I think that's a fixed path they're working on that will be done when it's done...development takes how long it needs to take.

[hot trout]

Im positive a part of the story has been clever retconning(explaining the lack of multiplayer early on and such), but it seems like they've taken that and run further than they'd have any rational reason to

The entire freaking game history seems to be a massive ARG at this point

[worldly plover]

My one takeaway I’m choosing to believe is LNF trailer coming out in August

[near forge]

Even the whole Abyss (deleted data) signal first being detected in the oceans reminds me of the flood HG experienced themselves, and how they had to restore it via a backup.

The entire theme of deleted data and restoration of it could be connected to the actual development process.

[hot trout]

Dijdjdjwhsgusisidnsbhqgakkfmfid

Existential crisis and persistence in the face of overwhelming adversity even though all must end in time

If even half of my suspicions are true, that makes this game more well thought out than any other I can think of

[late tusk]

me praying for the 27th time that the update is freighter combat and boarding and killing the crew (Robot NPCS so the rating doesnt change)🙏

[molten karma]

The rating wont change with npc combat

It doesn't need to be robots

[late tusk]

whatever the update is i hope its something that pulls me back in

[molten karma]

Keep in mind though just because it adds something we cant really be sure about depth and longevity tbh.

[hot trout]

I still cant get over how dreams of the deep seems to foreshadow oceanic worlds

[hard stirrup]

More like a major story update timeline without like the dates or years when that stuff would come out. At the end of it or earlier though I think they have to do something about the galactic centers...they are way too much of a pain. They passively acknowledged this as they provided us shortcuts like anomaly teleporter skipping to some galaxies, multiplayer helping, etc. But still...if you want to do it yourself the legit way it is at best and annoyance and at worst punishing...at it ruins Corvettes more than you think because it completely re-rolls all the values of your corvette only tech, throwing it into total chaos...if you were careful to mostly have great upgrades well, they now probably suck. But the ones you had no options for could be better...or even worse.

[near forge]

Core jumps reroll the stats of vette tech?

[hot trout]

If thats the case, any time tech shuffle occurs should also reroll the stats

At least, id think so

[hard stirrup]

Yep. You don't have to use it for main ship going through core and shouldn't....back up your save files, jump through core with a junk ship, then call your corvette and look at the stats.

[native carbon]

guys, its been very fun today ngl hehe. gotta go sleep. bye 👋

[hard stirrup]

No. Tech shuffle doesn't touch corvette tech value....you have to fix its positioning but it remains the same.

[hot trout]

I really should make a conspiracy board at this point

[molten karma]

You'll wake up shortly before the update. Goodnight

[hard stirrup]

But corvette tech also re-roll values when imported in an expedition.

[near forge]

Ic, thanks for the headsup. That‘s some weird stuff.

[hot trout]

What about exported?

[near forge]

Same for me will be awake at most for one more hour now, then gotta do some important stuff early tomorrow…time is gonna fly for me^^

[hard stirrup]

What? Like from expedition to main save? I would expect that to scramble corvette tech rolls too but haven't tested it.

[molten karma]

I got about 8 hours but I'm going to wake up a few hours before update. It's to hype.

[hot trout]

I stayed up way too late last night and slept until like 1pm today, lol. I wanna try to get up earlier in the morning to play the update asap

[worldly plover]

Anyone know the update time?

[molten karma]

I just want to see how right the leak is or if we're all wrong lol.

I'll probably play later that afternoon though

[near forge]

Yeah don‘t cut corners when it comes to sleep, really hurts us in the long run.

But ik ik, it‘s easier said than done. At least now you have a good reason to try to heh

[molten karma]

I have insomina lately

[near forge]

Rule 1: Never use your phone in bed

That helps a lot already

But alas

This is about NMS

[molten karma]

I usually don't I toss and turn for about a hour or two and get up. I usually could get at least 5 hours of sleep though.

[hard stirrup]

Not precisely but PS5 and PC should get it in ~15 hours...+/- 1. Other platforms are harder to predict...could be like one or two hours, days, or even more weeks behind.

[molten karma]

Yeah and who gets it first kind of goes back and forth I don't think I recall neither getting them at the same time it's always a couple hour difference.

Xbox never gets it first or second.

Switch... Well expect it in a month or two.

[humble kayak]

:(

[molten karma]

Hey at least Xbox usually gets it same day though. I think only about two or three times it was a few day delay.

Switch though... Feels bad man.

Hopefully with this being the 10th year anniversary HG will try to make sure all systems push out close to each other.

[hard stirrup]

Correct...sometimes it's Steam, sometimes it's PS5....goes like that for almost all updates. But there was this one singular time when Switch shocked everyone and got it first...pretty sure someone used up an actual divine miracle to make that happen...a new wonder of the world.

[distant bronze]

the only issue i see with an update like the leak is, what ita describing is massive, I dont know if the switch one will be able to handle that.

[molten karma]

I cant recall but it may have been a earlier Switch update though. It hasn't happened in a long time.

[humble kayak]

well my xbox just shit the bed like an hour ago

so

i dont think itll matter now lmao

[molten karma]

I mean it's not really that bad if you think worlds part 1. New water, entirely new impressive water physics, wind, new planets, new biomes, new flora, new fauna, new enemy type, refined combat, new sounds, etc...

Oof rip

You think you gonna stick with Xbox or go PC or PS5?

[worn vapor]

Depend on size of update

Smaller update and less engineering and less optimizating = switch 2 update earlier

Remnant update is one example of smaller update

[hot trout]

Remnant also added interactive physics objects

[worn vapor]

Those are procedurally generated on planetary surfaces which may be easier for Switch 2 update out to be earlier

[dense quartz]

Specifically, the game had always had interactive physics objects since launch but there was never a dedicated device to manipulate them around.

[worn vapor]

That too yeah

hence easier to be out on Switch 2

Xeno Arena are harder be out on Switch 2 because majority are brand new developed by Hello Games devs such as adding battle game mechanics, adding battle abilities, levelling up pets, new rewards, etc

and requires engineering xeno arena stuff before it becomes avaliable on Switch 2

[molten karma]

I hope whatever the update is I hope we get a deep dive video. It's always a joy hearing Sean talk.

[mild scarab]

I hope it's large enough to warrant a deep dive in the first place, I need something to hook me back into the game

[dense quartz]

They've been doing those types of videos semi-regularly lately.

[hard stirrup]

If it's important enough to promote this financially the way they haven't done for any update in four years, it should be important enough to warrant a deep dive video.

[molten karma]

What I found slightly interesting about that leaked cover that same staff head was used in the Worlds Part 1 deep dive.

Probably useless to point out but once in a while these trailers and videos may have hints towards something later so I'm kind of scrubbing right now.

[near forge]

Not willing to accept the idea that this was intended lol

Oh well I should probs go sleeping anytime now

[molten karma]

Not saying intended just saying interesting.

It's more so to say HG seem to like that staff variant if true.

[near forge]

Mhm

[dense quartz]

My bet is if the artwork is real, the full thing will be the player standing with that staff in their hand, and will probably use some new full body customization.

[molten karma]

Maybe but who knows though. Slightly off topic I find it funny how in these trailers mp capes don't work either which makes me wonder if they'll ever fix it lmao.

[dense quartz]

Capes used to be AMAZING when they were first added. You can see how fluid they are in the Outlaws patch notes gif.
It's a shame they heavily downgraded them to what looks like prebaked animations.

[molten karma]

I wonder if we'll ever see them in all there glory again. I think MP just needs fixing in general but I do think something like that will probably happen eventually but capes are the real disaster currently. Such a flashy cosmetic piece to just wasted.

[outer summit]

!update

[cloud jolt]

⚠️ NO UPDATE SPOILERS

Go to #nms-spoilers until official patch notes come out in #nms-news-ticker and #nms-announcements.
-# Content not officially announced by HG and not released on all platforms is considered to be spoilers -- this includes data-mined content and leaks.

[molten karma]

Why?

[mint lynx]

Any last minute info?

[molten karma]

Not really unless you didn't hear about the atlas65 kind of validating the reddit leak somewhat

[ebon spoke]

They didn't. A moderator saw a youtube thumbnail mentioning the leak, didn't know what it was, and then warned the forum about it

[ebon lynx]

how's that? i've been gone for a bit

unless it's the same "deleted even if it's fake" thing

[molten karma]

I mean why would they acknowledge a leak then? They even acknowledge that press briefing got leaked

[ebon lynx]

eh, who knows

i'll see the update's content when i see it

[late tusk]

wait what O_O

[ebon lynx]

not even worried about the leak, it's fake to me no matter what

[ebon lynx]

update tomorrow's all we really know for somewhat certain

[late tusk]

:D

[molten karma]

I feel if it had no validity it'd be pretty easy to ignore just like all other leaks. Just like that 4chan one.

[late tusk]

i only really awaken here when sean emoji's' anyway lol

[molten karma]

That 4chan one blew up even more then this one

[ebon spoke]

It wasn't an acknowledgement, it was a guess. The mod in question said that he didn't look into it because he didn't want to spoil anything about the update for himself. He doesn't know anything about the leak or how legit it may be.

[mint lynx]

It better be a combat update I've waited ten years through 2016 gameplay lol

[molten karma]

I still see no reason to mention it if it had no validity.

[ebon spoke]

It was to warn people that captain steve is posting potential spoilers in his thumbnails

[molten karma]

The site is owned by HG I'm sure the mods know something that the normal users dont.

Its the same with the 4chan leak from the Frontiers era.

Yet no warning then.

That one blew up even more then this one even.

[ebon lynx]

copium

we'll literally just see what the update really is tomorrow

[hard stirrup]

I'm sure that's at least the official story but if they claim total ignorance like they haven't even seen the "leaks" at all, yeah, right. I'm pretty sure I don't buy that. They do like to maintain total plausible deniability, and I'm sure not even the highest admin there is kept in the loop about game development or what's coming but they ARE owned by HG...if they expect me to believe they have zero clue what the leaks are and nobody even told their owners that "Uh...there's these so called leaks out there, we don't know if they're real so we just thought we'd let you know something might have leaked." Yeah I don't buy that. Them putting out that warning and how very hard they are trying to claim total and absolute ignorance and cluelessness is a bit too much for a site literally owned by HG.

[molten karma]

Just for reference if anyone wants to know.

[ebon spoke]

Well, we'll likely see what's real or not in thirteen hours or so

[molten karma]

Crazy in hindsight how much of that actually came into game later though.

Plus at the time no one knew they were actually called settlements.

[ebon lynx]

a broken clock's still right twice a day

[glass flare]

the mods don't work for HG, they're just normal community members. there's nothing really out of the ordinary about that atlas65 post

[ebon lynx]

yeah

[mint lynx]

I just want a combat update or a poi update
Update the game systems that have been outdated since they release pls

[molten karma]

So much is pointing towards a big update in 13 hours

[ebon spoke]

my conspiracy theory on that 4chan post is that it may have come from someone seeing an internal roadmap or something. "Sentinel type race" "Worlds from a past era" are oddly specific descriptions of the Autophage and Worlds Part II story. But at the same time, the latter was probably alluding to E3 biomes being reintroduced, which was something people were still hoping for back then.

[ebon lynx]

my personal wishlist for stuff now is a way to upgrade freighters, the ability to build in space properly, more stuff to do in space, and some more factory/automation elements to make crafting complex items and gathering their resources less of a hassle

unifying the space between planets by letting you build in and explore space would do so much for the game IMO

[molten karma]

I still can see old world types coming in as glitched systems I even submitted that idea to zendesk around voyagers

[hushed wyvern]

if there would be a 1 single thing i could add, only 1 and nothing more, would be making expeditions always available, so anyone can do them whenever they want

[molten karma]

It'd be a nice way to preserve prenext visuals and generation

[mint lynx]

I still have no way to do 2 exps I want the mouse and corvette parts

[grim lintel]

I just don't see any major changes like that coming without something more holistic (a reset) happening

[mint lynx]

Switch literally just got a big fat L

[grim lintel]

system generation has gotten incredibly funky over time, as stuff has been tacked on

Something tells me they may reach a point where it's harder and harder to bolt on more planets to existing systems, or add new star systems entirely, and if they've got some kind of refined superformula they want to put out there, it may be easier for them to just kill what's there currently

[molten karma]

They will not do that. That's why they implemented the new system stuff to begin with.

[ebon lynx]

i wouldn't be too upset with a universe reset so the whole universe gets the new terrain gen and planet types from Worlds 2, but then again, I don't wanna lose the sick earthlike planet I settled on

[molten karma]

I dont think we'll see a reset again it'll always just be tacked on and added on top.

[ebon lynx]

probably

[grim lintel]

As much as I appreciate how much they've been able to hold off on doing it, what I don't like about it is that it means, with little exception, most planet types can be found in most systems

[molten karma]

I think that's why it took so long to get Origins and Worlds Part 2 to begin with.

[grim lintel]

you can't throw a rock without hitting a water world anymore

conversely, because gas giants are shunted into purple star systems, and only a fraction of them, finding one can sometimes be difficult

[glass flare]

they've always been a bit bad at balancing the procedural generation (both macro and micro) when they update

like when they did Worlds, those new one-off fauna they added (spinny geometric things, the liquid-dumping gross things, the skeleton cows) were seemingly everywhere

[grim lintel]

All the more reason why a tenth-anniversary smoothing over would be something I at least consider, if I were in their shoes

[ebon spoke]

Creature generation in purple systems is also way out of wack in my opinion. It's like every other planet is inhabited by either bone cows or three nearly identical species of glow strider

[ebon lynx]

yeah there's definitely a divide between old and new systems

[molten karma]

I kind of hope we get another pass at procgen for colors, fauna, and flora. They're still limited and not unlocked at their true potential

Definitely better then pre worlds but its still kind of repetitive compared to terrain.

[ebon spoke]

it's part of a broader issue with how HG handles 'rare' things, I think. Most of them are one off models that aren't integrated that deep in any of the procedural systems. It's cool the first time you find something unique, until you see that the exact same thing is everywhere and isn't even that rare or unique

[glass flare]

I feel like "one-off models that aren't integrated deeply into proc gen" is sadly the standard for them now, probably because people dunked on them so much for the "derpy" animals from launch

[molten karma]

I think they're stepping away from that a bit but we've had a long while of hand crafted assets over procgen that they need to do a big update or two dedicated to the procgen pool.

[gloomy isle]

Tbf the WP1 insects have a very good amount of procedural variety.

[molten karma]

I think people hammered down on them about it because there was so many other things wrong with the game that it was just extra salt on the wound that irritated people more tbh.

I dont think itd be a issue today. At least not as much

[ebon spoke]

Compare it to greater mushroom beetles or even diplos, those are essentially rare (or somewhat rare) combinations of parts on otherwise normal creatures. If HG added either today, they'd just be surface level additions of new creatures that are set to appear on like 10 percent of all planets or something

[humble kayak]

sorry i didnt see your question earlier! I'll send my xbox in to get repaired. I think it's the failure in the power bank somewhere. Until then, I just discovered I can install NMS on my PC using the microsoft store, so not all is lost! Not sure how I already have the license for it, but I won't look a gift horse in the mouth

I hope I can run the game okay. I should be able to

[zenith perch]

It always will be to a degree

[zenith perch]

Tis a play anywhere title iirc

[humble kayak]

I didn't know those were a thing

Good thing it is

[molten karma]

Don't give Microsoft the credit though it's HG being based

[humble kayak]

of course

Does the PC version get updated at the same time as Xbox?

Or is it on its own schedule

[molten karma]

PC usually comes before Xbox

[humble kayak]

mk

Thanks

[dense quartz]

Poi update would be awesome.
I remember when the Sentinel update added pillars and I foolishly thought it'd be like a Halo Infinite type compound where each one was a randomized layout and you had to search to take out the generators or something.

..Instead it was just one static log lol.

[gloomy isle]

Sentinel hives could be cool

[tropic sparrow]

Some sort of nest ?

[glass flare]

yeah there was so much community excitement when the procedural buildings guy got hired, but other than the derelict freighters and the settlements we never really saw anything like that. and even those are fairly prefab parts just stitched together

[dense quartz]

I guess the exteriors of space stations also count.
I dunno if sentinel ships also count? I mean they definitely have waaaaay more variety than any other ship type.

It's always interesting to me how they add something which has no variety sometimes, but then they go back to add variety to something older.

[glass flare]

they went crazy hard on the Sentinel ships for some reason, but that level of procedural awesomeness is rarely seen

I'm still sad that the Wipeout-looking ship was just a one-off model

[dense quartz]

Yeah, makes me wish they'd just add way more ship parts to fighters, solars, haulers and explorers.
They'd all look unique and new.

[tropic sparrow]

New expedition 🙏

[violet cosmos]

I believe that's been "confirmed" by the person with super secret API access, right? If so, it'll be out Wednesday or within a week of that update, assuming things go as they have in the past.

(and assuming I have my spoiler lore straight)

[tropic sparrow]

Isn't the update today ?

[glass flare]

most likely tomorrow, if you're in NA

[violet cosmos]

For me, it will be tomorrow.

[tropic sparrow]

Im in europe

[violet cosmos]

Yeah, nobody knows how time works over there. Buncha Doctor Who bullshit.

[molten karma]

Less then 12 hours. 😄

[dense quartz]

10 or so hours..

It's 3 am here and I'm pulling an all nighter lol.

[grim lintel]

Agreed. The planetary buildings are one of the oldest parts of the game, and it can be felt.

And because new building types are only ever added periodically, and at wildly different eras, they dont feel cohesive

Vanilla/initial release buildings are different from holoterminals are different from planetary archives are different from space stations are different from settlements are different from -

[molten karma]

I'm probably going to bed in a hour or two and wake up in about 5 to 7 hours which will be perfect timing for peak hype and the update dropping early on ps5 or pc.

[grim lintel]

Same

Sucks that my boss will be in town tomorrow, otherwise I'd fake being sick

[molten karma]

Damn update days make the day go by slower to. At least if its something good.

[dense quartz]

Also I think some of the planetary outposts are bugged. Feels like half the time I visited that one outpost with a landing pad, the walls are invisible from the outside of it.

[molten karma]

Even if pois dont get updated now I think its pretty safe to say they will in the near future.

[grim lintel]

Or theyre at an angle

[molten karma]

Ie within the next 3 years for sure

[grim lintel]

Didn't some new, as-of-yet unreleased PoIs get datamined a year or two ago?

[dense quartz]

The angle thing is actually intentional.
It's based on a larger planet affecting the gravity of the planet you're on. But it's kind of implemented in a stupid way.
Literally all it does it tilts your camera in the opposite direction of the larger planet.

So everything is perfectly flat along the planet except the player being pulled away from the stronger gravity.

[molten karma]

I cant recall exactly but I think something with pois was not sure if it was new ones or just something related to them tbh.

[ebon spoke]

closest thing to an unreleased poi is the iron giant

which I think is just an early version of the giant statue thing from the relic worlds

[grim lintel]

this is what I'm remembering

I didn't recall how extensive the find was

[dense quartz]

Those things are ridiculously rare. I only ever found one by following glyphs from reddit.

[ebon spoke]

There is also an unused pulse encounter, the Atlas Gate, which is a duplicate of the relic gate that's modified to trigger some sort of reward instead of the usual warp when you fly into it. The reward event is missing so we don't know exactly what it is/was meant to do, but based off the ID it seems like it's some cut part of the In Stellar Multitudes questline

My guess is that it was possibly meant to take you to your initial purple system instead of you just warping there

[grim lintel]

This is completely unrelated, so I apologize for being a bit off-topic, but it is honestly so nice to have both the news of an update and a possible ARG running right now

given last week I was having about the opposite experience as a Destiny 2 fan

just nice to see that not all my babies are dying at the same time lmao

[dense quartz]

Yeah, live service games come and go. I've recently learned to just accept it.
Though NMS is a strange case where it kind of is a live service game, but if HG shut down the servers, the game will still be 99% playable.

[grim lintel]

hell, half the functionality of the anomaly is broken as it is, I've just learned to live without it

[dense quartz]

I keep multiplayer completely off. Better performance and better experience during expeditions lol.

[grim lintel]

the trash hauler expedition was hilarious in multiplayer, all the physics objects would start to sort of flicker once other people's trucks drove far enough away

[dense quartz]

I think it was adrift there I decided to forever keep it off.
Cause that expedition was advertised as being completely alone in the universe, but then funnily enough the starting planet was full of worms and players everywhere lol.

[grim lintel]

alone, at the edge of the universe, humming a tune...

[zenith perch]

Havok physics iirc

Same as hl2 and skyrim

Unlike Skyrim they don't have skulls slightly hurting you if you step on em

[grizzled apex]

PS sale is up

[molten karma]

8 more hours. Honestly I feel this PSN sale is kind of late

[grizzled apex]

Xbox still isn't up surprisingly

I'm pretty sure they go on sale a day before the update usually

[grizzled apex]

It's a part of days of play, so I guess HG had to plan with that in mind.

[distant bronze]

have we gotten any more emoji yet?

[molten karma]

We probably wont hear anything for about 7 to 8 more hours.

However the update will probably drop on ps5 or pc around that time.

[gusty stream]

I'll see everyone tomorrow morning

[molten karma]

See ya

Looking back Voyagers dropped first on PC around 3:59AM last year my time and usually Sean drops patch notes and trailer around 6:00AM to 7:00AM. So if this is the summer update I think the timing should be similar. I cant recall how late or early an update comes out though. It's 8:06PM for me right now for reference.So I'll probably take nap for update time.

[glass flare]

i'm on the west coast in NA so I never get to experience the trailer drops anymore sadly

[humble kayak]

i'm in the midwest and can only experience trailer drops if i specifically get up early for them

time zones really suck

[mint lynx]

I'm on switch so there's no point of me being on time for a trailer 99% of the time 🥀

[humble kayak]

:( yeah that's gotta suck

you switch players drew the short stick

[mint lynx]

Switch takes double the work even switch 2 I guess

[honest hamlet]

Can’t wait until tomorrow lol

I want the update now

[spring river]

Hyped you are traveler

[honest hamlet]

Don’t think I’ll be able to leep

With an s infront of course lol

[spring river]

You think those leaks are legit? They sound like a perfect update

[dense quartz]

We'll be playing it in about 8 hours.

[honest hamlet]

I think it’s all the buzz and then some

[mint lynx]

Combat or poi update pls improve a old aged system

[honest hamlet]

Ahh my back

😅

[spring river]

If it's ground combat then it will be as huge as Voyagers update

[mortal fog]

Have you seen all the rumours??

[mint lynx]

I hope so the ground systems feel older than 2016, they feel like 2005

[molten karma]

BLACK and Halo 1 feel better hell DOOM 93 even

[spring river]

Oh yeah , and i cannot bring myself to believe it , that sounds too perfect

[mortal fog]

@spring river

[ebon spoke]

dataminers have not found procedural npc ships lol

[grizzled apex]

2 is straight up a lie

[mortal fog]

Fr??

Google got me excited ☹️

[grizzled apex]

4 also has very little evidence behind it

[mint lynx]

What have data miners actually found? And don't say mf space racing

[grizzled apex]

Station overrides have been sitting dormant for ages now

[grizzled apex]

8 freighter ownership is true, as well as an unused dice game for the xeno arena, but I think that's it in terms of recent unused content.
@ebon spoke would definitely know more though.

[dense quartz]

All of these are based on absolutely nothing lol.

[spring river]

Those leaks will end up destroying whatever actual update hg launch, the last 2 updates were pretty lame tbh

[vivid island]

I thought so too, there’s no way that could fit in the game atleast in this stage

[grizzled apex]

There is an updated data structure in the save data to allow for 8 freighter ownership added with Voyagers.

Just unused.

[ebon spoke]

there's also an unreleased corvette cockpit, but that's not really a shiny feature

[dense quartz]

I thought the 8 freighters thing was older than Voyagers?

[mint lynx]

Oh god damnit a freighter update is exactly big flashy bs they would want to attract new players and hit news cycles again

It's not gunna be a combat update

[humble kayak]

hottake, i don't think freighters need another update

[spring river]

That's the thing i hate the most , more of the same thing , we need new combat system and ground combat and actual missions that gives players purpose

[grizzled apex]

We'll know in ~6 hours now, not much use losing sleep over it now

[molten karma]

Eh I think combat would bring new players in more

[humble kayak]

i think they're good where they're at. the only real addition i could see ig is making freighters capable of combat outside of scripted encounters

[grim lintel]

never trust AI

[mint lynx]

What I do know rn is what Sean likes to do its stuff that's got a wow factor and attracts views

[dense quartz]

Yeah combat is by far the most criticized part of this game by everyone.

[mortal fog]

Real I didn’t see the “ai generated” tab

Hate that google does that now

[molten karma]

That's why it irritates me when I see people on reddit and even on here say combat isn't even the draw of the game or I don't play NMS for combat and its like that's nice.

[dense quartz]

Gotta love just how CONFIDENTLY it tells you stuff, right?

[grim lintel]

It's so goddamn difficult to disable entirely, yeah

[spring river]

I'm no tech expert but since the data miners didn't find anything interesting then it will be another meh update i guess

[grim lintel]

if you type -ai into the search before submitting it it will disable it, for that search, at least

works on most search engines

[mortal fog]

Maybe stuffs not released in any public files yet????

[grizzled apex]

WP1 came outta left field, we had 0 unused bits from that update prior, apart from a few text strings for cooking products related to the bug creatures.

[vivid island]

It hallucinates more than my uncle in a Friday

[grim lintel]

datamines are only a possible clue to some content either being staged for a future update, or leftovers from the current one that made it to the killing floor

[vivid island]

I hate how ai is being forced into anything and everything

[grim lintel]

not really an indication of how much they might be working on outside of the live depot

[spring river]

Don't do this don't give me hope , I'm kinda used to slops by now

[molten karma]

I mean there is something big coming potentiall with sponsored streamers

[dense quartz]

Also the humanization of it, "it hallucinates" instead of "it makes errors" or "it's thinking" instead of "it's processing" etc.

[mortal fog]

We are literally being forced to use a system that gets things so very wrong

Yet it believes it’s correct

[vivid island]

That’s a coined term for ai making up things

[dense quartz]

Just don't use google, there's plenty of other search engines.

[spring river]

Wrong with confidence and sas

[vivid island]

I don’t think of that phrase as humanizing

[mortal fog]

You know what? Maybe we are all wrong. Maybe Sean doesn’t even know he’s put that stuff in the game 😂😂

[vivid island]

Time to whip out the good old Firefox

[molten karma]

Night everybody see you in about 6 to 8 hours I really want to be around before early drop. 🤞

[vivid island]

o7

[spring river]

Didn't it got breached recently and leaked a bunch of users shit

[vivid island]

Fine I’ll use pissandshittium browser

Sheesh

[spring river]

Or brave

[vivid island]

Same thing

It was leaked

A while ago

[mortal fog]

What’s that butler one I forget the name of???

[vivid island]

But still

[mortal fog]

Jeeves!!!!

[spring river]

Duckduck

[mortal fog]

Homeboy Jeeves will know what’s getting added

[vivid island]

I haven’t heard that name in a long time

[mortal fog]

I bet he knew what’s in this update about 3 years ago

[spring river]

Old is gold

[vivid island]

Well said

[grizzled apex]

Hate to backseat mod but, this convo's getting a lil outta scope for the channel

[vivid island]

Sorry

[spring river]

Hivemind part 2 in 2027 , source: someone's inner voice

[mortal fog]

Ask Jeeves

[mint lynx]

If it is a combat update I'll be so hyped give staves swinging animations too

[mortal fog]

Yes please lemme smack those gek

[spring river]

Infected gek

With pimples