nms-spoilers

[dense quartz]

It's gonna be Waypoint and Fractal all over again.
The community will be 100% convinced the game is dead and abandoned until a big update comes along.
(I'd argue Xeno Arena is a pretty big update tho, but not by this community's standards)

I had one NPC sacrifice his last pet to buff his other nonexistent pets
I just chalked it up to him giving up lol

[dense quartz]

Imagine if some derelict freighters had a chance to give you retrovirus pellets.

[hard stirrup]

There's a lot of depth and content to it...it will take months to get all the medals maxed out and hunt down SSS pets and max them out. Not to mention HG said there will be seasonal content to the Xeno Arena too...so I assume timed events where we have a certain amount of time to accomplish certain Arena challenges for special pets before the events end. A little bit like how expeditions are timed.

Right now I'm grinding it out like crazy so I can hopefully be at least half prepared when the first seasonal Arena content arrives. We'll probably have at least an expedition before the 10 year anniversary in August and the first seasonal Arena content could launch alongside that...could be as early as May so the time to put together a lineup of solid pets to be ready for that is short. Not likely enough time to have ultimate pets ready by then but at least good enough to win should be doable.

[dense quartz]

This is the first time I'm hearing about seasonal content for battle arenas

[hard stirrup]

https://www.nomanssky.com/2026/04/no-mans-sky-xeno-arena/

[dense quartz]

Oh neat!

I figured there'd be expedition rewards for it but didn't think it'd have it's own seasonal thing.

[hard stirrup]

Yeah, time is of the essence right now to complete the medals for the Arena League and put together a set of pets that can win anything, ideally level 30 pets. My plan is to eventually have 8 level 30 SSS pets, one of each nature.

[analog breach]

No word about sesonal rewards in release log 6.30 tho. So I would not take it too serious.

Im still waiting for several miles/kilometers deep oceans lol.

[hard stirrup]

Oh I'm absolutely taking it seriously. The last thing I want is to be caught with my proverbial pants down when the first seasonal Arena content launches and I don't have pets that can win and I miss out on a special unique pet or a player title or something.

If you don't want to take it seriously, fine by me. But if seasonal content drops and you're not ready for it and you end up missing out on stuff don't blame me.

Besides, since I am completely prepared for the expected freighter update, this is the only thing I can prepare for right now, and I intend to be ready for it.

[dense quartz]

Well we have oceans and water worlds that go up to 1500u now lol.

[midnight saffron]

Just went on experimental looks like they are changing the s a b c logos

Oh and its only on the new creature scanner.

[dense quartz]

I still think the creature survey mode is bugged. It doesn't show up on any of my saves except my main one for some reason.

[hot trout]

Is it tied to a technology module?

[hard stirrup]

Interesting, got a screenshot of the new logos?

[hard stirrup]

It's not bugged...its a different scanner mode. Not sure if the Survey Device must be installed on your MT to have it but it's the same as selecting to scan for hotspots...you have to select the specific scan mode for creatures to be able to see their class in the scanner.

[hard stirrup]

Not module but possibly to the Survey Device. If your MT does not have the creature scan mode, install the Survey Device.

[dense quartz]

Yeah I know. I have it on my main save but not anywhere else.
I figured it'd be an upgrade so I tried upgrading everything on another save and it's just not there.

[analog breach]

I know. But HG stated something diffrent. Thats why i dont take them by the word anymore (land mile 1609,3m . Natical mile 1852m.)

[dense quartz]

I did that and it doesn't show up.
I removed the survey device on my main save and the creature scanner is still there.
I swear it's bugged lol

[hard stirrup]

Should be this:
https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Survey_Device

[dense quartz]

Well it isn't.
It's like there's no way to obtain it nor is there a way to get rid of it.

[hard stirrup]

Might be gated by some game progress but not sure what it would be. At a guess I would say make sure your other saves have some pets first. The Arena league and all related content might not show up until you own some pets or something.

[dense quartz]

Yeah I did that too.
I learned that the battle arenas get unlocked shortly after you unlock the anomaly.
It's when you get creature pellets and as soon as you adopt one animal, your next visit at the anomaly will trigger the battle arena tutorial.
Oceanus doesn't even wanna speak to you until that happens lol.

But yeah, the creature survey mode is just nonexistent on any of my saves except the main one.
It's it's an actual feature somehow then it's pretty obtuse.

[hard stirrup]

Worth noting that the Arena League tutorial ends when you defeat the first system champion...you know the tutorial is over when Oceanus offers you the daily "challenge"(in red text) fights. Do that on one of the saves that doesn't have the scanner and see if that unlocks it.

[dense quartz]

I didn't think to do that because when I first loaded my main save, I already had the creature scanner before I ended started doing the new content lol

[runic mesa]

Sounds like new future expedition pets to me. But event challenges sound fun, I wouldn't mind if they tried that.

[hard stirrup]

It sounds kind of like expeditions, timed in nature and goal oriented. My suspicion is it will be timed events to complete and win Arena battles and the reward will be given by Oceanus just like the current 5 special pets for earning all the highest medals, but I think it will be playable on existing saves...not even like expeditions which create temporary side saves that are connected to the main save, but in our actual main saves.

I imagine participating in these seasonal Arena events will happen through Oceanus. We talk to him, are told about the event and then we have to go out an win fights.

[runic mesa]

That sounds like a smart idea. That's also something easy for a small skeleton HG team to set up to keep NMS players occupied while they work on LNF

[hard stirrup]

Or more NMS updates.

[midnight saffron]

i seem to be unable to post screenshots in this channel

[hard stirrup]

Ah...you don't have the familiar role. You have to wait for discord level 5. But for now you can post screenshots in #nms-media

[midnight saffron]

Did it

Also if they are doing seasonal competitions I wonder what the rewards will be.

[hard stirrup]

Saw it just now, thank you. Looks interesting. As for seasonal rewards, I suspect it will be more unique pets you can't get any other way...like the 5 you'll be able to get from Oceanus for each of the highest medals in the Arena League.

[distant bronze]

I have to appreciate how something as simple as a the game table has changed certain points of interest. I find myself spending much more time at trading posts and archives and actively wanting to check them out, the saloons with them also feel like legitimate places to want to go and gather, honestly if they add more game options to the table and set weekly challenges I think they really have something with this update

[hard stirrup]

This update does make it easy to find archives and also provides a reason to go there after getting all of their lore entries. Both of those are very nice changes.

[distant bronze]

Also adds a new function to trading posts, aside from ship hunting and learning words there wasnt much other function they had, they feel a little more lively now

[runic mesa]

Yeah, I love archives visually, but now there's a reason to go there.

[hard stirrup]

Trading outposts had a function...running trade routes...which is the best early game method of earning units before you set up something more solid...but still highly profitable.

[runic mesa]

Trading posts being so barren always bothered me. It's supposed to be this hub, but doesn't feel like it.

[hard stirrup]

And some of the Nexus missions would occasionally send you to a trading outposts to close out a mission...archives didn't even get that.

[runic mesa]

But I guess that makes sense if you compare them more to a truck stop.

[distant bronze]

true, very true. Would like to see trade posts get a bit more love though, maybe expand the lower level platforms with a saloon and maybe an exo mech or ship mod shop to complete the rest stop concept

[runic mesa]

Archives were just so flashy and neat looking. But very disappointed to learn early game that all they had unique to them was RNG lore

[hard stirrup]

I guess they would be more like truck stops. They are places where you go to buy in bulk, not for personal shopping.

[distant bronze]

both feel more like local gathering places now, and I appreciate the update more for that

[runic mesa]

The visual vibes of archives tho. 10/10.

(I literally slapped a base computer down at that spot because it looked so neat)

[sand karma]

Damn so they increased the amounts after taking the patch note pictures? 😛

[runic mesa]

Random cool progen areas is the best part of NMS exploration.

[sand karma]

Gold seems to be 250 now 🥲

[runic mesa]

HG: Ya'll are finishing this too quickly, stop it, the next update's not ready yet. 😛

[sand karma]

I don't think I have the time or will-power to get any of these to level 10 though 😂

But we'll see how far I get

[runic mesa]

The hatch 30 eggs is what I'm not looking forward to grinding....

[runic mesa]

Hmm. That's not a max medal icon though. Doesn't have the three layer border.

[sand karma]

Ah I guess they just cheated in the text for the screenshot then

Or changed the names later

[hard stirrup]

You mean decreased? Because I'm at 101 completed and I'm not even level 7 in holo-arena victories...I think 125 will be level 7 and I have 2 more levels to go after...I think right now 175 or 200 wins are needed for gold crest.

[sand karma]

250 for gold from what I can see. Silver is 220

It starts going up at bigger intervals later on

[hard stirrup]

Damn ok. I'll grind harder now, and if need be I can stop the game from updating for a day or two.

[sand karma]

Honestly, much as I'm enjoying the new system, I don't think I'll be able to grind that long tbh 😛

[hard stirrup]

Though not sure how someone had highest medal with 146 wins. I don't think it was ever that low.

[sand karma]

That's a Hello Games screenshot from the patch notes. So seems they changed the victory conditions at the last minute (or manipulated the screenshot to show off the menu)

[hard stirrup]

Damn...that's sneaky.

[sand karma]

Little bit 😄

[analog breach]

Too high imo. Should be around 100. Imagine beating oceanus 250 times.

[sand karma]

I'm hoping / assuming we'll need to beat him like 30 times or so for Grandmaster, but haven't seen a number yet

Eggs and max level are on 30 too

[sand karma]

It is a LOT yeah

[runic mesa]

Some title requirements are bananas.

[sand karma]

Oh I would never do that kinda grinding for titles alone. it's the 5 legally distinct Pokemon that'll get me most of the way there 😄

[deep mountain]

Cool animals but I can't get no DAMN mouse

I like the first and third

[hot trout]

Wait, I thought there was a new robo-mouse available

[deep mountain]

Not this one

[hot trout]

That is an amazing sticker/edit thing

[deep mountain]

idec about the update ive been waiting for the mouse to use on abandoned mode lol

[hot trout]

I wonder if they've fixed the issue with mechanical companion eggs

[deep mountain]

The space station deletion upon core jump bug still exists

Have issue in abandoned permadeath & survival regular universe

[dense quartz]

I wonder if they'll add the dice game into these tables or if they'll remain as just exclusive to pet battles.

Actually, the table looks like it could support 4 players so maybe it will have a list of different games.
The battle arena layout is just a hologram on top of the actual table.

[deep mountain]

If the way to improve mp is bullshit games I'm here for it but I think they should also fix bugs mp causes

The bugs are very easily recreated just turn on mp

[dense quartz]

I still hope they introduce a bunch of minigames for hacking an outpost or fixing frigates, or exploring derelict freighters etc.
Instead of just clicking a button in the UI.

[distant bronze]

I noticed the additional spots too, if they added one or two more games to the table that would make it great!

[frigid storm]

Final medal should be titled "All burned out"

[sand karma]

I'm really looking forward to seeing other minigames as well 😄

And ditto on the comment you quoted about this enhancing certain locations

[runic mesa]

It's the exp 19 mouse pet. The one Switch 1 players got screwed out of getting since it was during the hiatus.

I'm just crossing my fingers with each Twitch drop event...

Tylor and I are both Switch 1, so we don't have it.

[hot trout]

If it helps, unless the mechanical egg bug got fixed, i couldnt give it to you even if I wanted

Which i have wanted to do

[runic mesa]

What's the bug?

[hot trout]

When they lay the egg, you cant pick it up

And they seem to not have actually laid the egg because you can make them lay multiple times in a row

[runic mesa]

Noted when 6.30 drops and I start working on medals.

[dense quartz]

Interesting how specifically the mechanical eggs can't be picked up. I assumed it was just a basic reskin instead of having different code.

Although I swear one of my mechanical companions laid a regular egg lol.

[sand karma]

At least I've made a bit of a dent in my journey to catch them all 😂

[hard stirrup]

You're doing well with Oceanus. For the hard grinds I set myself a quota of 25 arena wins per day. And every 4th win also counts a champion defeat. I just hit level 7 on both arena wins and champion defeats today at 127 wins total and 20 champions.

That way I don't grind too much. But I might have to rush it a bit before the next patch ups the win requirement of the highest medal to 250. So I might jump back in later today and get to 150 wins which should bring me to level 8 and then see what the final level requires.

[sand karma]

Thank youuu. I'm slowly getting the hang of it 😄

[sand karma]

Damn, 150 wins is a lot of pressure 😂

I'm probably going to go it a bit slower

[hard stirrup]

It's only 23 more from where I am now. That puts me at level 8 with 150 wins. Which should make level 9 at 200 or less...but the next patch will make the grind worse, based on the current experimental it seems like the grind will be increased to 250 whenever the next patch lands.

[sand karma]

WAIT the 250 thing is only on experimental? 👀

[hard stirrup]

I think so. I am at level 7 with 127 wins, 125 was the requirement...and level 8 will be 150. I don't think it will be 100 more to gold medal after that.

I could be wrong but if 150 is level 8 then I don't think max level is 250.

[sand karma]

Hmnm that doesn't entirely line up with numbers I saw earlier no

[deep mountain]

I wouldn't call myself a switch player I own NMS on PC and ps5 too but just have too many kids easiest to play switch lol

And switch 2 is like bs lol
Terrible battery life and looks very comparable to switch 1 anyway

[blazing reef]

Is choosing to not reset the system at the atlas near the end a bad option or does it not really matter

[fierce marsh]

so, as i way saying

ATLASS FOREVERRRR

[hot trout]

The choice is up to you. Gameplay-wise, there is little difference

[hot trout]

Im sure the dots will be connected in time

[blazing reef]

Ok because I was worried I’d miss out on something and the only reason I didn’t was because I didn’t want to create a system with more or less of any type of planet I wanted it to be full of a little bit of everything

[fierce marsh]

i reject the dots.

im radicalized and 100% Atlas pilled

[hot trout]

Have you figured out any other names?

[fierce marsh]

plus autophages are shady as fuck

hiding away from everyone?

[hot trout]

Wow why would they possibly think revealing their existence could turn others extremely hostile towards them

[fierce marsh]

they got to have a reason for it, and it's probably to hide from the glorious red glow of our lord and gpu Atlas

[fierce marsh]

good question, it's probably becuse they're SHADY

[hot trout]

That doesnt make a system, game-wise. Lore-wise the system is made somewhere in... the galaxy, I think

[fierce marsh]

first woman speak, now they want me to make an magic ritualistic wand???

100% a cult.

[hot trout]

Atlantid

[fierce marsh]

what about it?

[hot trout]

What does it mean?

[fierce marsh]

corruption to his grand design.

[hot trout]

No

Its an actual term

Technically

[fierce marsh]

Atlanta? the city lost under the see?

(pa pa pa pa 🎶)

[hot trout]

Atlanta is the capital of Georgia, US, youre thinking of Atlantis, which has a very very related meaning to its name

And is the reason I made this connection in the first place

[fierce marsh]

heck it's spelled Atlantyda where i am from

but whatever, language barrier

what about it?

[hot trout]

I wonder how much the name meaning is carried over

[hot trout]

What does the name mean?

[fierce marsh]

well, if i had to pull the cord in my pink flesh monster, and start the engine up there, id assume that Atlantis, aka something that'd be lost, would refer to the world of glass, where all of the lost things go, or hide to, like the sentinels

[runic mesa]

Fun fact: I actually live in metro Atlanta, so this is pretty amusing. 😛

[hot trout]

No, it has a very direct and literal meaning

[fierce marsh]

im like the opposite of you ain't i?

for every anwser is anwsered with a no, and that goes both ways

[hot trout]

I mean that you can Google the meaning, lol

[fierce marsh]

state of hubris

i recognize that word

but the meaning behind it was lost

[hot trout]

Of atlantis/atlantid?

[fierce marsh]

no of hubris, im go ogling that

arrogance leading to a downfall

YEEE I KNEW IT THEY ARE SHADY FUCKS

[hot trout]

No... thats the lesson of the story

[fierce marsh]

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE IN THE DIRT

[hot trout]

Im talking about the name

"Atlantis Nesos"

[fierce marsh]

"Alternative Medicine Clinic" in Switzerland.

hm, 5 starts

[hot trout]

What

[fierce marsh]

but only 1 review

shady..

SHADY LIKE THOSE MOTHER CULTIST

[hot trout]

How...

[fierce marsh]

https://share.google/LpeaJuLk0aWewpIUV

[fierce marsh]

only one 5 star review???

I'd trust a single 3 star review

or like 14 5 star reviews

[hot trout]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis

[fierce marsh]

but a single one??

hell no,

[fierce marsh]

ye the city lost under the sea

ahhh the full government name

[hot trout]

Do you see the name meaning?

[fierce marsh]

Ness

os

ISLAND OF ATLAS!?!

[hot trout]

YES YOU GET IT YES FINALLY

Now, "nesos" is the word that means "island"

[fierce marsh]

THOSE FUCKS ARE MAKING MOCKERY OF OUR LORD AND GPU ATLAS!?!?!

ye im shooting up the next encampment i see

[hot trout]

No, this is the bit where I realized "atlantid" was an actual word

[fierce marsh]

how adding id makes it an word?.

[hot trout]

"Atlantis" seems to be used as "[place] of Atlas"

So "Atlantid" would mean "[unknown] of Atlas"

And I searched it up

[fierce marsh]

ah like londonis, where all of the londonese reside

i see.

keep going

[hot trout]

Well, I searched it when I remembered what greek words use "id" at the end to mean "of"

Or "ides" more specifically

So "Atlantides" might give you the results that supported my conclusion

[fierce marsh]

ye okay makes sense

[hot trout]

Atlantides being the plural form of Atlantid

[fierce marsh]

but ain't the world of glass also atlas made?

[hot trout]

Probably not, actually?

[fierce marsh]

hm.

[hot trout]

But when I searched Atlantides, you know what I got?

[fierce marsh]

well as far as i understand it used to be an world that the sentinels occupied

so maybe actually not his

[fierce marsh]

do tell.

[hot trout]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesperides

[fierce marsh]

daughter of evening

ye shady ppl working with the LADY OF SHADE ITSELF

[hot trout]

No, "hesperid" means "daughter of the evening"

[fierce marsh]

i see full picture now.

[hot trout]

Atlantid means...

[fierce marsh]

daughter of atlas

an rouge offspring..

[hot trout]

Well, that much is true

[fierce marsh]

this could make for one of these 1 episode drama series

[hot trout]

But its important to learn the third main name

That I'll leave to you

[fierce marsh]

i assume ill encounter it soon enough?

[hot trout]

Might have already, I've heard it can be easy to miss

But I'm fairly sure it comes up multiple times

[fierce marsh]

uhh im at the part where i gotta craft the last pice of she shaft

wand i mean

no

staff

but im taking a break form pc rn

[hot trout]

Well next time youre playing, pay close attention to the names linked to "void mother" and "atlantid"

[fierce marsh]

brb

[fierce marsh]

ill try to, i dont have a lot of translators on my suit tho

might miss it

[humble kayak]

i raise a literal interpretation

what if it is "Devoid of Atlas"

something being unknown is sort of like an information void, it's functionally identical to something not existing until that information is made apparent

then ofc you would know whatever you're seeking

[hot trout]

No, the [unknown] represents the part I didnt know the meaning of

[humble kayak]

I know

[hot trout]

As in my knowledge

[humble kayak]

That's what I mean

[hot trout]

The word does mean "daughter of atlas"

[humble kayak]

oh

well my hypothesis made sense for all of five seconds

given that korvax prime's remnants sort of

wound up in a world between worlds, outside of Atlas' view

[hot trout]

I was explaining my thought process as I figured out the meaning

[humble kayak]

i mustve missed that part

mb

[hot trout]

Nah, your fine

When I realized that the proper name for Atlantis was Atlantis Nesos, "island of Atlas," I knew Atlantid was an actual word

[humble kayak]

I never wouldve caught that honestly

I just as soon figured that, sure, Atlantis had meaning to it but only as much as like

amsterdam

or rome or some shit

other location names

[hot trout]

We were discussing the name in lore and joking about the possibility of them getting the name from switching the s in atlantis

I decided to look it up, and found the full name

On a hunch I searched "atlantid" and got non-nms results

The final piece was one of the top results being "hesperides"

Cause I already knew they were the daughters of the greek titan, Atlas

[humble kayak]

that's all actually pretty interesting

[hot trout]

It made me realize that the names are more than surface-level decisions

Another meaning I learned was related to architecture of all things

Both "atlas" and "atlantid" refer to a human figure carved into a support pillar

[hot trout]

You would never guess what other name showed up for the same thing

[humble kayak]

i'm trying to guess but i'm at a loss tbh

what is it

[hot trout]

"Telamon"

[frigid storm]

Wasn't Atlas that titan that held up the earth in Greek mythology?

[hot trout]

Held up the heavens

A rather important distinction, in this case

The name of the mythological figure who supported the very cosmos

Not the earth, but the sky

[humble kayak]

oh that's cool

I know telamon's lore significance but i don't think I knew its name had meaning

[frigid storm]

Im sure they did some digging when coming up with a storyline and names, would have been easy to toss in some random names/elements and call it a day.

[ebon spoke]

The Atlas' name having that significance is probably unintentional

[hot trout]

I figured that much

Wait, i misread, lol

[hot trout]

How do you think its unintentional? Its a poetic description of what the Atlas does

The entity that supports universes

[ebon spoke]

We know the lore was almost entirely rewritten a few months before launch. The Atlas was already named before that point, and we do know that the original lore was that it was basically just the in universe representation of the discovery servers. So I'd bet it was named as a 'book of maps or charts'

Though we don't know specifically how much of the current lore may have existed back then

[hot trout]

I mean... where do you think the map collections got the name "Atlas"?

It all goes back to that titan guy!

[frigid storm]

Wonder if any of that old pre-release lore even exists anymore?

[deep mountain]

Wasn't the lore alternate reality/ arg around launch?

[hot trout]

Iirc it was a year after

[distant bronze]

So i found that, with the Arena tables potentially spawning in the saloons, the feeling of time gates at settlements while you wait on buildings to update feels significantly less, i feel like theres less a feeling of waiting for them to finish updating as being a task, now its more a background thing as i battle the locals in the saloon

[dark mist]

how did artemis die? If we know

[frigid storm]

I wouldn't be surprised if sentinels were involved but can't remember exactly.

[cosmic anvil]

really?? woww

why tho

[tropic veldt]

What happened to Artemis

[inland spindle]

Oh boy

You wanna know?

[inland spindle]

He’s been dead the wholeeeeee time from what I understand

[tropic veldt]

WHAT THE FUCK

[inland spindle]

Yah

there is more tho

[tropic veldt]

I mean tbf he did looked a bit sus

[inland spindle]

Does he know

[tropic veldt]

Wdym

[inland spindle]

🤫

[tropic veldt]

Alr lol

[near forge]

I feel like HG was kind of messy in how they went about their own lore which is why they eventually hired Greg Buchanan, a renowned sci-fi writer, to give some sense to the mess they‘ve created.

He hasn‘t been a part of the team for a rather long time now though, and I believe his last contributions were the Sentinel Pillar logs. So HG is on their own, but maybe he has left crumbs for them to tie things up or they just gonna do it by themselves.

[inland spindle]

This game had me my question my morales for 2 hours that’s all I’ll say

[tropic veldt]

Miles?

[inland spindle]

Morales

Like good and bad

[cosmic anvil]

ohhh... if anything Stranger Things or the Russo Bros taught me is that good directors don't have to be good writers or vice versa. HG better know what they are doing with the lore

[analog breach]

They should hire him again. Leave new crumbs , fill loose threads , new storylines and story arcs.

[tropic veldt]

I'm doing the atlas quest rn but how many atlas stations do i need to go?! Swear to you I've done 20

[near forge]

Yeah maybe, but I‘m not sure if he has already written out the remaining script for the leftover narratives and given it to HG.

Given how slowly HG is progressing things with In Stellar Multitudes having been pretty much the only significant progress we‘ve seen in recent years, I‘m not sure however.

It could be a delibarate choice on HG‘s end, maybe they‘re even waiting for the 10th anniversary for this, but to me it feels like they are kinda lost at how to close things out.

[tropic veldt]

AT LEAST 20

HOW MANY ATLAS STATIONS DO I NEED TO GO AAAAAAA

[analog breach]

What is the name of the mission?

[tropic veldt]

Show the atlas one my wonders

That's what i have to do idk abt the name

[near forge]

In the log, is it „Atlas Eternal“?

[analog breach]

Atlas eternal means you are done

[tropic veldt]

Why does it keep telling me to a station then 🥲🙏

[near forge]

Just another way to earn nanites and learn atlas words pretty much

[tropic veldt]

It tells me on the bottom right when im gaming sometimes which does my heading BEGONE QUEST BEGONE ATLAS

[analog breach]

Altas eternal is eternal

[near forge]

Ngl HG‘s…quest design is very unintuitive. I was confused myself whether the new pet battle mechanic had a quest tied to it cuz it kept sending me to new champions to challenge after beating one

Turns out, it‘s also just an eternal loop

[analog breach]

With the speed of story progressing It feels like they are strugling in story development.

So many loose threads. Ariadne ,Helios , construct etc

[near forge]

Yeah I tend to agree, but maybe they‘re waiting to progress it with a significant update which would align perfectly with the 10th anniversary.

Cursed which was one of the heaviest lore drops (albeit still vague), was also saved for the 16th expo specifically.

I‘m feeling we‘ll get something big soon, especially with the next two updates potentially being versions 6.5 & 7.0. Whether we get some lore alongside that…I believe at least one of the next two updates will have some again.

And the Ariadne thing started with the Weekend missions right? The whole storyline for them was written by Greg, so ig that could be a reason why HG hasn‘t gotten involved so much there.

But I‘m sure he would have left them some crumbs on how to progress things, maybe they’re still debating on whether they want to follow along or do their own thing from here on.

[analog breach]

Im craving for some new lore and story. But i dont expect much after the arg and stellar multitudes. They could done bit more. Only thing left is to hope that anniversary update will be good

[cosmic anvil]

maybe they painted themselves into a corner

[frail silo]

Do we have datamined numbers how rare sss creatures are? The chances seem low to me, but I can't find any data about it.

[analog breach]

They say that highest SSS chance is in purple systems.

Idk how much it is accurate but i found SSS on day 1 inpurple system. Could be just luck tho.

[hard stirrup]

Haven't had time to hunt for SSS creatures, I only have one that I found by accident. Right now I'm purely focused on getting all the milestones down. But that could also be the luck of the person who found those creatures. Unless there is some solid datamined info from the game files it's probably anecdotal evidence.

[icy citrus]

Yeah, I want to see the numbers

[analog breach]

On way boss

[analog breach]

165493 (SV 4211) PS4

[hot trout]

I disagree, somewhat. I'm not sure how many of the story threads we have will come together, but In Stellar Multitudes didnt feel like a climax as much as a penultimate sort of event. Granted, theres also a limitation to how much they can progress the story without gameplay and story becoming increasingly segregated

[dreamy quartz]

I've fully scanned every creature across 10+ purple systems with no luck lol

[inland spindle]

@paper spire I walked up to a blue orb and reset

[dreamy quartz]

I literally made over 50k nanites from only scanning

[paper spire]

that is a great choice

[inland spindle]

why

What will happen

[paper spire]

i think its a normal galaxy

[dreamy quartz]

I don't think star color affects stats

I'd need to see proof from data mining

[paper spire]

no no empty

[inland spindle]

it restarted game?

[paper spire]

the blue is empty i think

[dreamy quartz]

The only thing I'm certain of is that each class is weighted equally for creatures

[paper spire]

sorta of

[inland spindle]

what that mean

what option do I pick to not restart game

[paper spire]

you start with broken stuff but all your bases and ships inventory are still with you

same game

[inland spindle]

my corvette?

[paper spire]

you are now a galactic traveler

it's there someplace

everything is fine

[inland spindle]

Well fuck my game crashed

[paper spire]

you were racing towards the end I was trying to say to get a ship ready to fly that you don't mind it getting all wrecks

and swap multitool

but too late

[inland spindle]

My game put me back at the portal

[paper spire]

the reset is a goal and achievement to become full blooded

[dreamy quartz]

Surprised no one has data mined S chances for creatures yet

Guess I'll have to get on that

I still don't think star type has any affect

[paper spire]

f-those miners and hackers ceature game should be just fun - not have to be all sSS and one shot rookies

[dreamy quartz]

Some of us are curious

If I'm going to grind for SSS legitimately I want to know the chances. Nobody shiny hunts without knowing the chances

[inland spindle]

What do I my game crashed and now i’m at portal

[paper spire]

curious is fine but keep joining a player w/C class pets just to show you are superior to them with all hacked pets?

[dreamy quartz]

I'm not planning on hacking in pets? Where did you get that notion?

[paper spire]

i was trying to play my friend on anomaly and this guy kept coming in with all sS

[dreamy quartz]

Data mining != hacking unless you explicitly modify the game while doing so

[paper spire]

we were just goofing on about it trying to see what its about

[dreamy quartz]

I want to know the chances, not save edit

I plan to still obtain all pets legitimately

[paper spire]

these folks found it

what ever IT is

[dreamy quartz]

They might be using a save editor

I'm not planning on doing that

[paper spire]

shrugs who knows they got bored after three times..

[inland spindle]

so what do All the orb colors do

[dreamy quartz]

But if I want to stand a chance against hackers, I probably need SSS lol

[paper spire]

i had first level pets he wouldn't even

[dreamy quartz]

But mine will be legit

[paper spire]

turn them down

[paper spire]

red is harsh blue is empty

green hmm lemme check

[inland spindle]

empty meaning?

[dreamy quartz]

I'd say don't go into the anomaly fights with anything less than SS

[hot trout]

How can you tell when a pet is hacked?

[paper spire]

lucj is green

lusH

[dreamy quartz]

Purely class wise? You can't. If it has an impossible move that deals a million damage, then yes lol

[paper spire]

you can get the same result with breeding Arti

[inland spindle]

and teal?

[paper spire]

but it's been out for 4 days

teal = normal

[hot trout]

Wait, breeding can improve class?

[dreamy quartz]

Breeding/egg sequencing has no impact on class

[dreamy quartz]

No

[paper spire]

sure why wouldn't it

[hot trout]

Yeah thats what I've been hearing

[paper spire]

not "breeding" exactly

but gene sequencers

[inland spindle]

Green seems the best

[dreamy quartz]

Cattips is wrong. You cannot use the egg sequencer to change class

It will always have the same stat classes

[paper spire]

you can't make imprvements?

[dreamy quartz]

No lol

[paper spire]

what is the point

[dreamy quartz]

If you could, I wouldn't have spent hours trying to find SSS

[dreamy quartz]

Cosmetics and personality

[hot trout]

Personality definitely influences creature performance in battle

[dreamy quartz]

Yeah but that's the only thing

[paper spire]

that is dumb - i can't believe spending the time and days and weeks of eggs for nothing?

[hot trout]

I wonder whether mutating the appearance would reroll the class

[dreamy quartz]

To be fair it feels like something that might change

[paper spire]

fuk who knows

[dreamy quartz]

Nope

[hot trout]

I mean, gene sequencing still does play a rather large role in combat performance

[paper spire]

when you look at a new animal the class and stats are sliding up and down up and down

[dreamy quartz]

You cannot reroll or change class on any stat with the egg sequencer; you can only change looks and personality

[paper spire]

yeah that isn't right - i'll just let them all go and stop messing with it then

[dreamy quartz]

I hope they change this though

[paper spire]

nah it is what it is

[dreamy quartz]

The trailer and update notes really made it seem like you could change those stats, so it's possible it's a bug

[hot trout]

Huh? No, theres genuine reasons to use the gene sequencer

[paper spire]

how would you improve a creature line then

[dreamy quartz]

You don't

[hot trout]

Breed into their strengths

[paper spire]

why try

[hot trout]

Bruh do you not notice what im saying?

[paper spire]

someewhat yeah arti

[hot trout]

A possible tank can be grown to larger size for bigger health pool

[dreamy quartz]

There are minor changes in combat with the egg sequencer but not class. I'm talking about class

[paper spire]

and no agility

[dreamy quartz]

I'm not even going to touch the egg sequencer until I find an SSS creature; no point otherwise imo

[paper spire]

i guess not

just disapointed i wanted to make the squiggley atom looking thing badass

looks like a doodle

[hot trout]

Its pretty major consequences, imo

You can have an aggressive creature use a detrimental attack without your input

Gentle creatures can debuff their own combat effectiveness

[paper spire]

that is what I been doing - but I was under impression that new creatures are rolled at hatch

[hot trout]

I noticed that aggressive creatures can use attacks on cooldown too

[paper spire]

so bassically just dump all my pets are give up there is never any hope of making them better

hell, they can use attacks YOU Cannot SEE they have

if I can't evolve them - they will stay shit pets

[deep mountain]

My pets are busy battling Nintendo lawyers right now

[paper spire]

meh - who know what they think

doesn't change that you can't grow your team into something uselful

i am wholey disapointed and depressed that I can't work towards making my pets better. Everything about this game has always been use what you find and improve as you learn. to hear that that is missing now with this new mechanic feels pretty bad man.

[near forge]

On the other hand this will make those good finds feel very special, but I understand that there are two sides to the coin.

[paper spire]

what finds i mean if you can't build - then why worry about it i gues

we build everything else up maybe not freighters, yet. there is hope of ship yards someday

i am glad the triple S players will enjoy snappin the necks of rookies in the anomaly for months to come

[paper spire]

so I won exactly ONE gene goodie for my creatures, once. that was a bust I guess

[hard stirrup]

Worth remembering that story expansions only came with massive game changing features...They Who Returned introduced the Autophage, a whole new language, and two new multiool types, then the next story expansion after came with Purple Systems. I don't think they are necessarily "struggling" with story as much as it's likely that whatever story comes next will come with something insanely huge gameplay wise...likely the freighter update and Sean only knows what all else that will entail.

[distant bronze]

well when you consider the last story update, we introduced purple systems and got to speak to the void mother directly, and the autophage we spoke to about that development seemed to speak of the purple systems as a place they could go to and belong. Next update I think will be us seeing that happen and the impact it has on the universe as the autophage take their place more prominently

[tight shell]

Bjr

[hard stirrup]

Indeed...the purple star seeds are probably going to be a thing, and we'll probably be working with the Void Mother.

[distant bronze]

Thats going to be interesting, depending on what we get for completing, the "void" path, we might be able to unlock a whole new set of lore archives and rooms that might be added within purple star systems.

[hot trout]

Didnt say that. They can use attacks that are still on cooldown. Anything that you cannot see would be more like a status effect

[runic mesa]

FYI, the Nintendo of America YouTube just posted the Xeno Arena trailer to their channel like 30 minutes ago. Which I guess means they don't care/not bothered about NMS creature battling lol.

[deep mountain]

They just advertising who they suing next it's joever

[near forge]

You can't sue Sean, he's too powerful. Even the haters couldn't stop him back then.

[humble kayak]

he should start a side-hustle about getting studios out of launch flops

call it Better Call Sean

[cosmic anvil]

They better know what they're doing with this

[deep mountain]

https://youtu.be/gomyg1Nt-lE?si=U8BsRIfbfTIaN7UU

I only made a non abandoned mode save for the update so I hope it's good

Otherwise wasted time

[worn vapor]

That video is gonna get deleted since it's not out yet

Also remember Nintendo of America is marketing team in USA that post news related on social media, it is NOT same as official Nintendo that approve updates/patches

Official Nintendo who control and approve updates/patches are in Japan not USA

[paper spire]

In status effect s then we get automatic actions triggered by that stat. Be it agility or combat ability I guess

[hot trout]

Yeah. Some behaviors trigger other things, but idk which trait triggers what sort of abilities

I think helpfulness triggers self-healing and buffs

[hard stirrup]

I doubt Nintendo like this, but they post trailers for most things coming to their platform, including previous NMS update trailers. If the corporate heads had any say in it I doubt they would love nothing more than to shut this down. Xeno Arena basically kills Pokemon. It's pet battle game that is a million times better.

[dense quartz]

Fixed an issue that prevented the Analysis Visor scanning mode for creature stats to appear until you adopted a 2nd pet.
So THAT'S the issue I've been having..

[dense quartz]

Huh, they changed the appearance of these icons in the experimental branch for creature surveying, but not in battles?

[dreamy quartz]

the grind trying to find my own SSS pets is driving me insane

I wish we knew more about stat chances

I've heard two different people say they're have more luck with SSS on extreme worlds and in blue and purple stars, so I'll try that; I don't think it's true but it's better than nothing

[hot trout]

I... am completely ignoring that grind for now

My titan worm is AAA and hes still quite strong

[runic mesa]

Ehhh, I think it's more Palworld specifically that triggered the recent lawsuits. Stuff like Yo-kai Watch, Digimon games, etc have been released on Nintendo consoles with zero issues for years.

Saying Xeno Arena is vastly superior to Pokemon or a threat to it is also a stretch. Apples and oranges. Pokemon is a separate franchise with its own aesthetic and appeal. Xeno Arena, though I haven't gotten to play it yet, definitely looks phenomenal, but it's steeped in NMS lore and aesthetics which are very different from Pokemon's.

I have a brother-in-law who's a hardcore Pokemon fan and has been since his childhood. I doubt the Xeno Arena in NMS is going to change his mind. 😛

(Nevermind the fact that there's monster battling/collecting games that predate Pokemon by several years. Shin Megami Tensei for one. And SMT games have also been released on Nintendo consoles for decades)

The memes are funny, but. C'mon, now.

(Not condoning Nintendo being lawsuit happy, btw. The Palworld situation is ridiculous)

[deep mountain]

They were just advertising what they were going to sue next it's joever

[hard stirrup]

Nah, they lost the patent, and it's not over...litigation with PalWorld is still going and they are likely to lose more. They are trying to patent and enforce patents on generic ideas...those will not fly. And without the patents they can't do anything.

[frigid storm]

This update in NMS is more of a side option for things to do, odds are many will play to get things to max and then leave it go.

[deep mountain]

It's not official yet they can still argue against it and ask for a extension the big N lives on

[hard stirrup]

Can't just leave it alone if you max it, there will be seasonal content.

[distant bronze]

agreed, i wouldn't be shocked if Oceanus has a seasonal rotation of rewards

[jagged escarp]

My arena challenge coins don’t work. I start them but no marker shows up as to where the challenge is

[hard stirrup]

That sometimes happens with Nexus missions where you start one but it fails to start...that means that no suitable system is nearby. So move to another area of space, like warp a few times, and try again.

[jagged escarp]

Done that but I also have friends with same issue. We can’t do challenges

Just for the arena games. Everything else is fine. Might be a issue to just those on vr

[hard stirrup]

Sounds like a possibly multiplayer related issue. If you have multiplayer on turn it off, reboot the game, and then see if it works.

[jagged escarp]

Hum might try that tonight. But still frustrating

[paper spire]

you not modding?

[dense quartz]

Nope, experimental branch.

[paper spire]

i learned last night that you can cause an egg to become very aggressive or very playful - those extreme behaviors will trigger actions and the results are like getting 2-3 actions per turn.

[hard stirrup]

Yeah, and you can repetedly gene mod an egg and have it spawn with 100% in all 3 desired behavior traits.

[paper spire]

i have not learned the names of the other behaviors yet

i only have seen two behavior names on my creature infographic

[deep mountain]

#no-mans-hype🐝 message

What he really means is he's fighting off Nintendo lawyers tooth and nail

[paper spire]

i dont get it

[deep mountain]

Neither does switch get the update yet 🚬

[hard stirrup]

it's 3 tug of war type choice...a pet can be Playful or Helpful, Gentle or Aggressive, and Independent or Devoted...so you have to choose one from each of those three.

[deep mountain]

I just make all my pets aggressive I mean they are bred to fight

[hard stirrup]

Aggressive auto action is Necrosis which is basically one turn small damage to the opponent the equivalent of a free fast attack. Gentle give a 2 turn enemy attack % debuff so depending on the enemy attack that can save you more HP than the Necrosis would do to the enemy.

[paper spire]

agreed - but what if your smallest attack was OP and i think more than one action can be triggered, I just am not sure by what. I even seen four or five actions by a maxed out player creature a few times, they took one active turns and their pet did the other 4

i think the choice of auto action is based on the elemental type too

mechas do oil slick spontainiously

[hard stirrup]

It's not an exact copy of whatever your smallest attack is...and the smallest attack can't be OP as far as I can tell...changing it only changes its nature...ie you can change a toxic to fire or whatever but the power of the fast attack doesn't vary much.

[paper spire]

i've seen the base attack one shot my rookie pets time and time again

so yes OP

i was impressed the player only jump on my table three times,

with his triple S team and my C crud

i was there to play with my pal and this guy was wavin his junk around like it meant something to him

[hard stirrup]

Fast attack can only one shot if there is level disparity...ie if a level 10 creature had all 10 put into attack but the enemy didn't spend any levels on HP. But that falls off and will stop being effective when you fight level 30 vs level 30 enemies...the window in which fast attack can be OP is limited...long term it will not last or be good.

So no, fast attack is something I avoid using most of the time...I alter between my remaining bigger hits as much as possible. I only use fast attack if it puts me in range to kill with a bigger shot next turn.

[paper spire]

i was not just white flag because I wanted to study the effects of a 30 🐾 against my 4 🐾

then I was curious how many times he would join my table just to smack me in three hits all three pets.

he joined three times.

i was entertained,

i was messin with my pal when he first tabled up, mine were like 7🐾 so I was casting all the passives I had and passing turn when I didn't have a passive on cooldown

so the effect was he got to smack my pets over n over gaining some exp.

you know, we need the admins to make a :paw: emoji

🐾 there is one what is the SC

FEET

fukin hel

[mental socket]

: feet :

[deep mountain]

I love feet as much as the next guy but what I would really love is for my game to update

I'm almost done unlocking purple systems

[paper spire]

no one here can help with he update problem and I wish I didn't have to hear about it every two minutes

i am ticked off that i didn't want or care about this dumb update and it's all i have done for four days... and it's not directed at any one but myself

[deep mountain]

You gotta update your settings and blacklist the words update

[paper spire]

HA! or convince Tylor to dwell on something else?? we all live with our choices i guess

[deep mountain]

I don't even care about the update really lol what I want is the mouse

[paper spire]

it's a pet - i am so conflicted with this update, it's like a puzzle that needs to be solved. i woke and am compelled to solve it

i don't play nms that way - irun-what-ibrung

[hard stirrup]

So I figured out what's going on with the medals...right now to get the highest medal for Arena victories you need to win 220 games...but it doesn't matter because to get the highest medal for champions defeated you need to defeat a total of 60 champions....that means you need to win 240 times not counting any victories vs Oceanus or other players. Plus you have to do the daily fights vs Oceanus...those will probably be like 30 for highest medal...so the absolute minimum victories for all highest medals except max level creatures will be 270 victories. Victories for however many max level companions is harder to calculate.

[paper spire]

you know when you land on some planets the big crab/bug looking thing comes chasin you. scan one last night and oh joy it was S-C-B

[paper spire]

i didn't know there was any medals, it seems likely there would be something even standing in the league you might think

[deep mountain]

I use abandoned mode so this update is a nothing burger for me too

[paper spire]

it would be cool if you got standing by doing egg stuff.

[paper spire]

i have an abandoned or two running but i get lonely its weird

even in HC PD - there are freighters to blow up and stuff to chase around

plus I choose that save to finish the story again.. it's been many years from the first time.

[hard stirrup]

The Arena League is a full blown faction in NMS...like the Explorers, Merchants, Mercenaries, and Outlaws...there are five medals you can rank up and Oceanus has one special unique creature egg he gives you for each of the 5 medals once ranked to its highest level(level 10). You also gain 4 player tittles for each medal when ranked to levels 2, 7, 8, and 10 for a total of 20 player titles.

[deep mountain]

The point is to be lonely yea

[paper spire]

that is a lot to look forward to then. i spin the nav data for champs now and then, am I progressing on the path?

[paper spire]

i mean, i don't hate it. and I do go there to not put up with things or NPCs but then I miss the interactions after a spell

[runic mesa]

Nevermind, I apparently can't read. 😛

[paper spire]

hmm - try and try again..?

[runic mesa]

Annnd on that note, back to work!

nudges Nintendo with her shoe Do something while I'm gone, maybe.

[deep mountain]

it is funny they posted the YouTube video without the update being out though I admit

[paper spire]

play safe (at work)

[hard stirrup]

You mean Challanger Invitations? Because nav data is useless for the Arena League.

[paper spire]

yes i mean those

nav data for champions

it has a nicce name but it just is

[runic mesa]

Ta! I have to anyway, lol. OSHA. 😛

Later!

[drifting jolt]

dont worry, nms didnt actually copy any of pokemon's important features
such as
checks notes
throwing balls, or switching between mounts

[paper spire]

:Challenger_invitations:

[hard stirrup]

You get 1 champion invitation for 3 challengers defeated...it's slow going but it works. I've been grinding it for the past week...already got max level for eggs hatched, that was the easy part. And I am 10 champions away from max medal for champions and 11 wins away from max Arena wins medal...I'll probably have those wrapped up today or tomorrow.

[drifting jolt]

if we could switch between ships mid-flight, that'd get us sued by nintendo

[paper spire]

no KZZt want to hear...kzzt

[deep mountain]

I honestly think it's getting Nintendo lawyerd rn

Martin even did a special tweet about the switch update taking awhile

[paper spire]

changing stations they keep playing the same song

[hard stirrup]

No idea how many pets I need at max level total but only got 5 at level 30 so far. I think I'll have to look up how to dupe the level pellets because I want to move on from the grind after I have max champions and victories medals. Still have to beat Oceanus every day for like a month but that will sort itself out over time...got 7 Oceanus daily victories so far. I want to start hunting for SSS creatures so I can have a respectable lineup ready for when the seasonal Arena events start happening.

[drifting jolt]

ive stopped interacting with it until i get three decently bred SSS pets tbh
if i level pets i want them to be good

[mint lynx]

You thought it would come without issues after voyageurs & whatever the settlement update was called? The end is near!

I give switch the ten year update then probably cut support.

[near forge]

Voyagers!

[worn vapor]

Again, Nintendo didn't invent monster battle game mechanic in the first place there's many other games that are monster battle with moves (attack cards) on Switch 1 and 2 like Palworld, Coromon, Digimon, Monster Sanctuary, Dragon Quest owned by third-party companies and not Nintendo

**Important notice: Pokemon is NOT only game that has monster battle **

yall thinks monster battle game mechanics is owned by Nintendo which is not true

[mint lynx]

Hey buddy include your us and os we use the queen's english around here

Jk

[near forge]

And Beacons! I almost called it Bacons lul

[mint lynx]

It might not be getting held up by nintendo but I definitely think they're going to be done trying to get updates to work on s1 soon

https://x.com/Griff_/status/2043817480959791113

Martin Griffiths (@Griff_)

No Man's Sky – Xeno Arena Update – Nintendo Switch 2 https://t.co/UJ6j30lGT9… via @YouTube

The mobile platforms like Switch 1 and 2, along with Steam Deck take a disproportionate amount of engineering time with every update we release. A bunch of us at Hello Games probably

X · Apr 13, 2026, 10:23 PM

However that's not to say the lawyers aren't looking at it, they probably are.

[hard stirrup]

Nah, Nintendo just lost a generic license in the lawsuit against PalWorld and they're going to lose more. They can't lock down an entire genre of game. NMS will never face any legal backlash for this. By the time the lawsuits vs PalWorld are done it will be game over for Nintendo permanently, and many more Pokemon like games will start popping up.

[near forge]

Nintendo is completely delusional if they think they have a credible basis to sue anyone over this.

In fact the corpos making this call are a burden on the company as they waste money on lawyers…but ig Nintendo is swimming in enough money to not care, unfortunately.

[mint lynx]

It's more likely the switch is struggling (again), the update was hard on ps5.

[hard stirrup]

Update runs great on base PS5...not sure what you're on about. Not having any lag or issues at all beyond a bug with my corvette tech disappearing but that was already fixed.

[mint lynx]

It had documented issues in fps mode and had general stuttering and lag issues before patches.
You ok? Was a hostile way to disagree

I don't even care about the corvette bug oh no your tech shuffled who cares lol

[cosmic anvil]

as they ever cared

[worn vapor]

hmmmmm it's hello games issue not nintendo issue with delayed update

[hard stirrup]

No idea what you saw as hostile but I never had any fps dips or lag. At worst the archives take a few seconds to load in but even that doesn't happen very often and it's not a real issue at all.

[cosmic anvil]

(no politics) - they are literally suing the U.S. Government. If they can sue a country or even a small pop store in Costa Rica, they will sue anything that even resembles the hair of a Pokemon

[mint lynx]

Right

[mint lynx]

Their lawsuit list available to view online is massive

[cosmic anvil]

there is a whole website to document Nintendo's warcrimes lawsuits

[mint lynx]

I take this tweet as proof most of the delays for the updates isn't Nintendo, it's them trying to get it working 🤷🏾‍♂️

[mint lynx]

Really? I'ma google that.

[worn vapor]

Glad it's not only Switch but also steam deck update is also delayed

[cosmic anvil]

https://www.suedbynintendo.com/

[near forge]

Well there are many reasons to sue the US Government, tbf lol

[mint lynx]

Jesus.

[near forge]

Pokemon probably wouldn‘t even be in the terrible state it is nowadays if it belonged to a different publisher or was independent

[cosmic anvil]

Goodbye Games is nothing to them if they decide to sue. But I think Sean is not that dumb to walk into the lion's den. Maybe their legal advisors gave them the green to proceed

[mint lynx]

They can't keep getting away with this!!!

I'ma head back out though I'm on switch myself so not much reason to use this discord ATM have a good day all

[cosmic anvil]

have a good day!

[near forge]

See ya around

[cosmic anvil]

It is not just Nintendo imo, Japan is notorious for very harsh enforcement of copyright laws (they even arrested a YouTuber for uploading gameplay videos iirc)

I think they do not have a concept of fair use either

[near forge]

I love Japan, but moreso the buddhist part of the country

[humble kayak]

Good performance on Xbox Series, too

At least in my experience

[deep mountain]

what we really need on switch

[hard stirrup]

Did they actually sue the US government? It would be actually hilarious if they did because they have no case...the short clip the US Government put together almost certainly falls under fair use like any other content creator but unlike small youtube channels a government has the resources to fight an win in court.

[cosmic anvil]

Japan is a country like any other — it has problems and it has good things. It is just culturally we've been made to glaze the country instead of appreciating nuances. It is not a theme park as some people in the west generalise.

But I digress hehe before the mods bonk

[cosmic anvil]

they are suing for Liberation day tariff compensation, that specific video you are referring to would be liable for lawsuit in Japan because there is no concept of fair use there if I understand correctly.

[hard stirrup]

I doubt the US government would ever show up in a Japanese court or vice versa.

[worn vapor]

soooo like voyagers update for switch was delayed by hello games and not nintendo because of problems?

[sand karma]

Has anyone been able to mutate the pet you get from "Egg Expert"? It crashes instantly whenever I try.

[hard stirrup]

You don't need to mutate eggs...you just have to hatch them.

[sand karma]

Mutate the gene. Egg Expert being the achievement you get the pet from.

Works fine on any other pet for me. That one? Instant crash 🥲

[hard stirrup]

And I already have that...you only have to hatch eggs.

[hard stirrup]

Yeah it says that if you gene mod it improves the creature but you do NOT have to do that for the medals.

[sand karma]

??? I said the pet you get from that achievement 😭

[hard stirrup]

Oh the reward pet. I haven't touched it yet...report the bug to the zendesk.

[sand karma]

Yeah, putting in a ticket. It seems to be specific to that one so far.

[hard stirrup]

Try hatching it just to see what class it is, if it's even worth bothering with. Then you can reload the restore point to get the egg back.

[sand karma]

I've hatched it and it's already at max level

All worked fine until I tried to mutate the gene to get new skills

That's an instant crash, but only with this pet

[hard stirrup]

Is it SSS?

[sand karma]

It is yeah

[hard stirrup]

With height of 1m it might be fixed. I remember with some previous unique pets the gene modifier would say that the editing would increase the size but when hatched the egg would still spawn at the same exact size as before.

[sand karma]

Oh I've not tried to modify the egg at all. It's just as HG delivered it.

It's specifically the gene / skill swapping at level 30 that breaks.

[hard stirrup]

Well you can get some level up points from pellets or fights to change its abilities.

[sand karma]

I have the points. It just crashes when I try and change any abilities. Again just for this pet.

[deep mountain]

Unlocking purple systems on the regular game mode is very anti climatic
"Ok very cool I'ma head out now"

Ok floating orb you too

i have now "beat" the regular mode before the update dropped lol

[runic mesa]

Personally I think it's more likely this is a side effect of what happened with Voyagers. Everyone's antsy now after that and it could just be he's being more active now to address it and prevent the hysteria from the Voyagers Switch 1 hiatus from happening again.

Also, he posted this in response to the trailer being uploaded by Nintendo America on YouTube, which has caused confusion as the update's not out yet.

[runic mesa]

Right? rubbing temples

[cursive ivy]

Damn

[mint lynx]

The writings on the wall a self admitted it takes up to 3x the work to get stuff working on switch & a 6 month delay in tying to get voyagers working

I called voyagers wouldn't hit switch immediately day 1 of the update and i was right too lol

[worn vapor]

3- 6 months delay for small update on Switch 2 is crazy

[mint lynx]

Switch 2 will be fine

[worn vapor]

Remnant update which is much bigger than Xeno arena update and released on same day

[mint lynx]

It got the update after not too long when switch was getting phantom updates.

[runic mesa]

I mean, sure. Switch 1 is past gen. It's inevitable. But assuming EVERY delay is the end is... honestly, kinda stressful and I have other things to worry about.

[worn vapor]

so it's mainly Switch 1 problems?

[mint lynx]

pretty much.
I'm not too active here anymore because I play on switch 1 myself, damn 40 part corvette limit.

[worn vapor]

they could stop supporting Switch 1 if each update gets more powerful and complicated and switch 1 couldn't run well

because it's 10 year old console with older hardware

[mint lynx]

I wouldn't be too shocked unfortunate yes but surprised no

[runic mesa]

I called the fact that HG's silence meant they were working on it and haven't abandoned the console. And I got sassed for it by the doomsayers here constantly.

[mint lynx]

Switch got lucky made it out with less than half of the limit and no decorating inside, the feature is /was severely nerfed.

[worn vapor]

yea just abandon Switch 1 so devs don't get stressed and stop force delays to Switch 2 due to issues on Switch 1

[runic mesa]

So what about Xbox then? Which has also been hit with issues recently. Weird how it's only Switch that gets the "just drop it argument"...

[mint lynx]

Xbox has always run NMS better than switch it's just reacting to updates weirdly.

[runic mesa]

Anyway, this is moot. HG will end support for Switch 1 when they want to. And as long as they're willing to work on issue despite delays, they will.

[mint lynx]

I was pinged twice so I came back idrc either way what happens, however that's not to say I don't think them admitting switch takes 3x the work shouldn't be writing on the wall.

[sand karma]

I do love my little Pokemon 😄

[runic mesa]

And, when that time comes, I'll upgrade.

[worn vapor]

Many other popular games like Apex Legends, Fortnite, Cyberpunk 2077 are ending support or still considering to end support for original Switch due to decades old hardware

Switch 1 has 2009-2015 hardware

[mint lynx]

Cyberpunk even ditched PS4 after a downgrade patch to improve performance

[worn vapor]

so yea i can see HG to consider end NMS support for original Switch in the future if dev team kept getting struggling and stressed with original Switch

[runic mesa]

To be fair, that only happened with Voyagers. Which wasn't small. Prior to that the longest wait was Echoes at almost 3 weeks.

On average, 1 week is the norm. FYI, I've been playing on Switch 1 since its launch.

[worn vapor]

yea since xeno arena is smaller than both voyagers and echoes so i could see releasing this week

even thought remnants is bigger than xeno arena and was released on same day

[mint lynx]

remnants was about just as small but it got a exp.

[frigid storm]

An expedition for xeno would mostly be chasing down new pets i presume, and playing matches vs npcs.

[mental socket]

Ooh. How would one get this pet?

Do I need to win system champion?

[sand karma]

It's for the level 10 egg hatching achievement

[hard stirrup]

Hello Games at least still seem able to comfortably get new content released on PS4 and XB1 even if performance is up and down and much more of struggle for the older hardware.

[mental socket]

Wait wha?! So the new league things reward you actual items and eggs?

[analog breach]

Yes. Ask oceanus on anomaly

[coral scroll]

The hardest optional boss I am aware of is the Deepwater Guardian anyone know of a harder one to beat? if you want to try this boss out sometime dm me, or find a child of Aquarius and release it in water

[drifting jolt]

love how an entire quest of the artemis path is based on you trying to meet another player, standing in the same spot and not seeing each other
haha funny 1.0 reference

[ember yoke]

anyone have any success coloring their pets with the egg sequencer?

[hushed wyvern]

It is intentional in some way that the 2 kinds of gigantic robotic creatures are like colossal archives?

[sour fossil]

Realistically HG just reused those assets

Both buildings and animals can be procedurally generated, they had the buildings part ready so just use that to make new critters

[mental socket]

I still have around 10 of those summoning waters leftover after the expedition. Wouldn't mind stocking up on them if you have more?

[coral scroll]

i can pretty much duplicate anything that is tradable unless it glitches out. but it's called "child of aquarius" a squid

[mental socket]

Neato. Am currently on playstation so it's version mismatch until todays update goes live there

Aaand it just updated

[hard stirrup]

Installed 6.33 and checked to make sure all of my highest medals survived the update. Even though highest medal was only 220 I did achieve 250 Arena victories last night because getting to 60 defeated champions put me at 249 and then I did a practice fight with Oceanus for old times sake to reach 250. And none of the other medal had their requirements raised which I was worried about.

And with 6.33 it should once again be safe to start messing with max level battle-pets. Later today I will have to mess with the unique Oceanus pets I have unlocked, see what I have to work with there. After that it will be time to hunt and put together and ultimate line-up of battle pets.

[worn vapor]

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/survival/no-mans-sky-updates-like-xeno-arena-take-2-3x-longer-on-switch-2-and-steam-deck-because-hello-games-has-to-beat-impossible-memory-constraints-engineer-says/

then how come remnant update came out on time for Switch 2 not taking weeks

[runic mesa]

It just says it takes longer. Doesn't necessarily mean they are submitted later.

And they probably mean generally.

[dreamy parrot]

Question about gas giants. I just unlocked them. Are all their surfaces the annoying sheer peaks and valleys where it's almost impossible to walk around on? Or did I just have bad luck with my first one?

[runic mesa]

But the Switch 1's hardware is definitely making it more difficult as the years go on.

[hard stirrup]

Remnant was a much smaller update that didn't add anything revolutionary like Corvettes or a whole pet battle system...it merely added some quality of life and functionality to the Colossus exocraft.

[runic mesa]

And I get the impression that the Switch ports are Martin's passion project. Which explains the dedication to it.

[worn vapor]

Glad devs are acknowledged Switch 2 NMS community waiting for update on Switch 2

for anyone wonder when xeno arena coming to Switch 2, here's your answer: One of HG devs said there's no set release date for switch 2 update, All you do is be patient or play xeno arena on other platforms like PS5, Xbox or PC

[sand karma]

Oh I've never seen the mutation progress after a fight. Was there a patch I missed? 😄

Level 31 doesn't seem right either 😛

[analog breach]

Probably u have one gene edit available

[sand karma]

Ah fair, that would do it 😄

[hard stirrup]

Pets can't go above level 30 but level-up points earned after reaching level 30 can still be spent changing the powers of those pets.

[sand karma]

Yeah, that's why I'm confused the visual would say 31. But probably just bugged with me having a gene edit 😄

Ahw, but that was great 😄

[deep mountain]

We like yin and yang you the switches strongest defender I refunded the second I got annoyed with it lol
The xeno update being in the process of coming finally got me to make a real save and not just play abandoned mode tho

maybe it release tomorrow

[deep mountain]

it was legendary for switch lol

[mint lynx]

Probably not

It messed with corvettes that were barely working on switch to begin with.

[runic mesa]

Yeah, the corvette bugs are very, very likely what's holding it up

As I said, another game I've been waiting on for a year comes out tomorrow. So I'm okay waiting this time. Also, no expedition to miss.

I haven't had any issues with corvettes on Switch 1 since they added them. Though, I don't really use mine for anything aside from skydiving.

Sure, there's the small built limit. But just a glance at the NMS Switch reddit group will show you that doesn't stop people from making neat ones.

[humble kayak]

Mouse PI?

if so, i might pick it up too

but yeah it seems like corvettes have been a thorn in Switch's side for as long as they've been ingame

which truthfull isn't that long LOL

[runic mesa]

Yup! I was obsessed with ReBoot in high school (90s kid) and she was my favorite. 🙂

[shell depot]

So here is the question: is nms better or still limited on switch 2? I mean by how technology changes and what we do see arriving in 2026 and what we can expect for future games

How they do get good games to work still amazes what the current tech can handle 🤔

[hard stirrup]

It's harder for Hello Games to develop and updates take longer to arrive, and as a result of that it has missed out on a couple of expeditions in the past, but other than that Switch 2 version is content complete...it's not missing multiplayer, corvettes are 100 parts like other platforms, not 40 like Switch 1, etc. All the Switch 2 is missing now is the Xeno Arena, but it will get it at some point.

[humble kayak]

lol i'm gonna feel horrible for Switch 2 fans when the anniversary update drops

by the time they get it it'll be the 11th anniversary

[deep mountain]

It's joever

[deep mountain]

i dont understand why such a small update taking so long its like when I bought for voyagers all over again 👴🏾

[mint lynx]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/switch-2-3x-optimization-work-no-mans-sky/amp/

Idk why they included steam deck the files and structures are regular PC ones. Seems like they just tossed it in to not only complain about switch.

[hard stirrup]

It’s really not that small of an update. An entire arena battle system for hundreds of creatures with animations and everything.

[runic mesa]

It caused some issues with corvettes, I recall. I would bet that's very likely what's holding things up.

[mint lynx]

All the files it changes are pretty low level , the patch notes before the patches is two paragraphs.
The third patch for the update is pretty nice though, that'll probably be delayed on switch too.

[runic mesa]

Though I'm still not convinced that this isn't just a general PSA now for every delay to prevent the confusion over the Voyagers fiasco from happening again.

[mint lynx]

It was a interesting move to pretty much admit the delays were on their side
3x the work implies extra bugs , failure to get stuff working on time, extra crashes ect ect coding jargon.

First send off update declined even

[runic mesa]

However, with the Switch 1 getting older and NMS code getting more complex, it's inevitable. They have to say something eventually, if every Switch 1 release now is going to start taking 2+ weeks.

I think the fallout with the Voyagers delay made them realize they had to say something, even if it's vague.

[mint lynx]

it doesn't explain Xbox but it likely same situation

Hello games is the problem by not ditching old hardware lol

[runic mesa]

The Xbox issues lately are a bit different, I think?

[frigid storm]

I don't think they want to just give up on it though, but eventually the hardware won't leave much choice.
I think the switch 1 version is still popular but mainly since you can play it on the go. Can't do that with ps5, Xbox, and PC (excluding laptops...)

[mint lynx]

I use switch one which leads to delayed activity here I thought voyagers wasn't happening NGL lol.

It almost too nerfed to be worth it.

The 40 part limit isn't new it was in the original update not a concession made later.
So they were having alot of issues on a already nerfed limit.

[deep mountain]

let's raise the limit by 10 or so then now that it's working

[hard stirrup]

This is very true. Switch version didn't even release until 2022, which was six years after the original launch of NMS and since the get go there were issues, the Switch 1 would never have multiplayer or settlements...so it was always going to be painful to support going forward. I don't understand why HG put themselves in this situation.

[deep mountain]

The fixes echoes and worlds did were pretty crazy

[hard stirrup]

Xbox situation isn't quite as bad. HG still seem to be relatively fine with supporting PS4 and Xbox One. I think what is slowing things down for Xbox is the Xbox slower certification and their play anywhere initiative for PC and Xbox saves sharing innately...that sounds great as an idea....play on your Xbox now and 5 minutes later you can continue from where you were on your PC. The problem is that not many people actually do that and it slows update releases because HG can't release on Xbox Series and Microsoft store today and on Xbox One tomorrow...no, Xbox mandates that ALL their systems get updates and patches at the same time...so either all get the patch or none do. So if they have a problem with one system then all of the Xbox ecosystem on PC and Xbox have to wait. While on playstation and PC if PS4 or Mac have a problem only those systems get delayed and everyone else gets the update.

[mint lynx]

Worlds didn't do alot, Infact switch didn't even get the new water it was bugged reverted to old water, bugged again in worlds part 2 fixed in patches.

Echoes yes.

[mint lynx]

Like many I think both those features suck but switch could probably run settlements now.

A user here use to post whole cities made on switch, back in the day like a year ago.

Settlements can't run? Yeah right lol.

Found it, two years old
#no-mans-sky message

[runic mesa]

Soup! Yeah, they use to glitch build on Switch 1 all the time. Very impressive. I think they switched to PC though.

[deep mountain]

Another soup strikes again

[mint lynx]

This server has entirely too many soups, they even have their own discord.
I've seen it lol

[humble kayak]

i'm of the opinion old gens like those should be phased out

I'm no game dev but from a layman's PoV I can't see how updating those old platforms would get any easier from here on out

It'd get harder as newer and newer tech is stacked onto the game and things become harder to optimize for outdated hardware

I really doubt Light No Fire would be on old gens for that reason

[hard stirrup]

In terms of PS4 and XB1 I don't think they're holding HG back much...PS4 got the update day one and all Xbox/Microsoft platforms day 2. But Switch 1 should for sure be phased out...maybe even Switch 2 if it's this much of a pain. But it doesn't look like HG are listening...I mean hell, they released on Switch 1 in 2022...after the PS5 and XS released...and Switch 1 is far worse than base PS4 and XB1 ever were. No idea why they do this to themselves but they are.

[humble kayak]

I feel bad for switch fans (had to edit this bc my ADHD brain switched topics then forgot halfway through)

if I were a switch fan and I waited six months for corvettes with a, what, 100 piece limit total?

I wouldn't be happy

I mean I wouldn't aim it directly at HG because it's clear they did all they could, and fs it wasn't nintendo's fault

But if it's just a limitation of the tech then it's kind of just sad

Switch 1 should def be let go imo though

I don't see how it isn't just a strain on resources

[deep mountain]

nintendo money IS the resources obviously i cant speak factually but nintendo=money

nintendo fans just buy games more like look up how much mario kart has sold

they made 41 million in a record selling year after the switch copy was released

[humble kayak]

Martin Griffiths who is their top guy for the game's engine had this to say
"The mobile platforms like Switch 1 and 2, along with Steam Deck take a disproportionate amount of engineering time with every update we release. A bunch of us at Hello Games probably spend 2-3x more time to make these updates seamlessly work, exactly like the other consoles do along with PC/Mac etc.

It’s really a delight to constantly beat impossible memory constraints with a growing game to allow people to continue to experience and enjoy "

So it seems like they do it because they want to, but it's apparent that this is taking more and more effort as time goes by

[deep mountain]

i understand what they said in that post but they also made alot of money from the nintendo port

[humble kayak]

and I'm sure they still do, at LEAST with switch 2

But there's a certain point where you have to wonder if the costs of making a switch 1 port are all that economical when you weigh it with the profits from those updates

that statement was kind of long winded mb

[hard stirrup]

I am conflicted on how much to blame Nintendo but I think they do bear some blame. Switch 1 released well after PS4 and XB1 and PS4 Pro was out and I get it's portable but couldn't they do something closer to base PS4 hardware wise? I get they wanted to target the portable market mainly but couldn't they do a proper home console too? Even Switch 2 is worse than base PS4 and XB1. Now they are trying to abuse legal warfare to try to lock the Pokemon type games to Pokemon only or at least make other devs afraid of making Pokemon likes because if other better Pokemon likes start cropping up on PC and other platforms their brand loses value. Now there is an enormous gap between XS, PS5, and PC to Nintendo. I feel like they need to do something to better accommodate modern games...more powerful hardware. Doesn't have to match PS5 and XS but it can't be that far behind and that hard to support and develop for even if they have to move on from mobile platforms to proper consoles.

[humble kayak]

Yeah but nintendo probably doesn't give much input on whether or not Switch 1 gets updated with NMS

I mean sure they might have a miniscule financial incentive from people who see NMS and go "hey i'll get a switch to play it" but I'd wager those people are a minority compared to even just the switch 2, let alone the other consoles

The ball is in HG's court, i think

But yeah I get your point that Nintendo could've done better on the hardware front, at least from what I understand about switch 1

ig if i had to chalk it up to 1 singular reason it'd be that Nintendo just didn't anticipate the Switch to be supported almost a decade down the line

[deep mountain]

Everything on switch does work fine to be fair you got like 3 games that don't work out of a bajillion and ones pokemon

[humble kayak]

you've got a point NMS is kind of an outlier of a game in general not just switch

kind of hard to anticipate for

[hard stirrup]

Oh it's more than 3 games that have issues on Switch...a lot more. And there are also many games that don't even attempt Switch ports.

[humble kayak]

frankly, on the topic of switch and thus handhelds

how tf does Steam Deck work then

[deep mountain]

I meant like real issues not just the game being lower res, limited to 30 fps you know stuff like dat

[humble kayak]

I mean yeah i think programming-wise it's not much different than PC but the hardware limits must be on the level of Switch 2

yet tmk Steam Deck gets the update at the same time as PC

or are the switches just so radically different that it's just a different beast altogether

[hot trout]

Steamdeck is basically a handheld Linux pc

[hard stirrup]

That's kinda where NMS is too...what is there mostly works...it's just that it's really hard for it to get everything...it looks worse than it is for NMS because they try harder than most...other games would straight up say no more support for Switchh if they even bothered to release on Switch at all. Cyberpunk 2077 cut off PS4 and XB1 from the phantom liberty DLC and said nope, not going to happen there. A lot of such cases and games not porting to Switch at all.

[deep mountain]

that's the thing though you don't port to switch you lose alot of money you gotta figure out where your standards are
Cyberpunk switch is based off the PS4 port so they definitely could of fixed the PS4 version but just didn't

[humble kayak]

that's probably HG's hangup tbh is where to draw the line

[deep mountain]

ive been annoyed about the cyberpunk scam for awhile i was a day one buyer it's worse than nms because they ditched old gen

[humble kayak]

they've gotta define what's fair and what's not

at least in their eyes maybe

nobody can say for certain what they think

because even if you were to axe switch 1 support you'd have that fanbase saddened and asking why Xb1/PS4 weren't cut off

the cleanest route would be to cease support for all of them but as tylor said you'd be losing a good chunk of money if you did that

[dense quartz]

Fixed a number of issues affecting the Brood Mother.

Finally, she's been broken since like a few weeks after she was introduced.

[hard stirrup]

What was wrong with it? I grinded like 30 of them for all the trophy unlocks when they were first added and that was it. I fought 1 or 2 in like expeditions I think but seemed fine, not that I paid much attention...my weapons shredded it in seconds.

[dense quartz]

She was supposed to walk around, spit acid at you, there was supposed to be a countdown until she'd summon her brood.

But instead she was perpetually stuck in the summoning animation over and over again while the brood showed up randomly.

[distant bronze]

Wait she moves again now? nice, that should make her fight a lot more interesting

[dense quartz]

I'm trying to find her to confirm lol.

[hard stirrup]

You have to summon one by crushing juicy grubs, you can see them marked with red icons in the visor.

[dense quartz]

Yeah it took me ages to find a planet with them on, now it's taking me ages t actually come across a grub.

[dense quartz]

Okay that's two planets I've been on that have vile broods and I couldn't find a single grub even while looking for them with a corvette on auto pilot.

Warped to a new system to try and find a 3rd planet with vile broods, ended up finding a random pirate freighter just chilling there.. boarded it from my corvette and now I'm floating inside it...

I love how NMS always has insane bugs like these lol and they're so obscure like good luck replicating this.

[humble kayak]

looks like a completely different environment with just a rotation of perspective lol

at a glance I thought you fell through an Atlas station or smth

[dense quartz]

Found another oversight lmao

Anyway, I've concluded that the current experimental build either doesn't show grub icons, or grubs just don't spawn.

[dawn sedge]

hey

what happens to apollo

he challenges you to a race

then what

and what about null

[frigid storm]

I think the grubs aren't spawning, others have said the same.

[raw girder]

I hate this summoning mechanism. Why don't they add a brood mother nest POI which we stumble upon instead of summoning it

[gilded girder]

The brood mother also attacks settlements sometimes, it's the only place I've encountered her

[near forge]

Yeah, that would be much cooler

[frigid storm]

Only good thing about using the grubs to spawn her is you can pick them up and then crush them elsewhere.

[dense quartz]

Yeah it feels like a very weird mechanic where you can literally just order a boss to materialize in front of you whenever you want and whereever you are lol.

I kind of have the same issue with space encounters just materializing in front of you.
It'd be so much better if they were waypoints out in space you had to travel to.

[hot trout]

Haha... heh, uh... that might actually have implications in this game

[deep mountain]

It's joever

[raw girder]

Why not? we already have fixed space pois. which are space station and atlas interface.

[hot trout]

Im talking about materializing bosses to your location

[glass flare]

or in another game they are working on

[hot trout]

Oh I was thinking lorewise

Like, summoning the vile brood to your location could imply that they have ways to move between planets without going through space

[empty light]

do i put artemis in a simulation or do i end their suffering?

[humble kayak]

What do you think is the right thing?

Artemis met their fate, whether or not you intervene is a philosophical question more than a gameplay one

If Artemis gets put in a simulation, yes they'll still be alive, but you'll have confined a nomad travelling across the stars to just a single system

But if you put them to rest, sure they'll have been gone, but their suffering is no more. They would've lived a full life

don't worry about gameplay reprecussions because there really aren't any, but think about how you'd personally feel and do in that situation

[hot trout]

Ideally

[humble kayak]

yeah ideally

i am trying my hardest to be unbiased artificer LOL

[fading thistle]

does the autophage settlements have an overseer office? i just claimed a settlement and i don't see any office, nor a construction site

[sour fossil]

Yup they do

[fading thistle]

nor am i able to upgrade any buildings

mmk i hope its just something i'm overlooking

[fading thistle]

k, googled and it seems like a bug, currently going through fixing it hopefully

nice w/e i did it worked

[near forge]

Artemis‘ last moments were full of terror & despair, I wouldn‘t want to go out on such a note.

[dense quartz]

I still hope we'll get to revive Arty through the Autophage. It'd make the choice so much more impactful.

[cosmic anvil]

Wowww don't get existential on me just yet Mintz 😭

[lofty fable]

holy cow this update was ass what the hell are they doing?

two updates that are just minigames within the game

and that's not mentioning how barebones these new features are

skeletons bro

[hard stirrup]

Just upgraded the medal for defeating Oceanus to level 6, which requires 11 victories. Now I know that level 7 will require 15 wins and I suspect levels 8-10 will take 5 wins each for a total of 30 wins for the highest medal...that's how it was for hatching eggs. So if all goes right I am hoping to get this medal to the highest level on May 7th, which will be the 30 day mark since Xeno Arena launched. For the time being I am hunting SSS pets.

[dreamy quartz]

do we know if the classes of creatures that challengers use will match that of the creatures we find in the system? We already know they use system creatures, which is why some of them have fish and birds

[hard stirrup]

Oceanus' daily challenge fights are not restricted to system creatures. You can't trap him in a 2 planet system with a dead world and a desert world to force him to only use desert creatures. The daily fights have pre-determined creatures that are the same for everyone, no matter where you are.

[dreamy quartz]

not him; I meant the guys who are at trade stations on planets

[hard stirrup]

Oh, yeah, I think those are restricted to system creatures...system champions too I think.

[dreamy quartz]

I'm just wondering if fighting them can reveal SSS creatures in the system, assuming they use the best ones and that the classes align

[hard stirrup]

An interesting though...I haven't extensively tested it but I have looked at it once. I tried to find an SSS creature the champion used and I couldn't. I scanned most of the fauna there except two underground creatures and I didn't get all underwater creatures. So maybe it was one of the ones I missed but it didn't seem to be there.

[hot trout]

You checked the entire system? Im trying to figure out whether the trainers use fauna that can come from all over the system or if its a separate thing specific to the xeno arena

[hard stirrup]

Yeah, every planet and moon.

[analog breach]

I dont think that class of wild animals and class of champions pets corelate. Needs more data to confirm or deny

[hard stirrup]

Either that or the champions are only restricted to the biome nature of the pets but can otherwise make up pets.

[hot trout]

I feel like its a bit more specific than just biome typing

Even the general body type of the pets seems to have a common theme

[hard stirrup]

Maybe but it's largely irrelevant. We know what types of pets the champions can use and if we can't get them, at least not at the desired class, then it hardly matters whether the champions just raise the class, make up pets within restricted affinity, or something else along those lines. NPCs also have access to pets we can't even check, much less adopt, like all the flying critters.

[hot trout]

It matters in the sense of strategy against the competitors within that system, I guess

[dreamy quartz]

to add to this, I verified today with a test that npc pet classes are random and not reflective of the classes actually found in the system

tested by finding a system with 2 planets (the minimum) but only 1 planet with fauna, so it was easy to write all the fauna down and their classes then compare

[ebon spoke]

I wonder what would happen if you tried a system with no fauna?

[analog breach]

Would be hard to find one

[frigid storm]

Easy to find systems with no fauna on abandoned mode but you won't find npc's either.

[sand karma]

I was looking for a fire Pokemon and this planet DID NOT dissapoint 😛

[deep mountain]

i would look for fire pokemon if I had any

[midnight saffron]

So did the xeno update add in more quick silver stuff? I thought the last three were it of the previous vatch. But three more appeared on Thursday.

[hard stirrup]

I mean you can just look at the quicksilver shop to see what unlocked and what is unlocking....which right now is more plant decorations for bases.

[icy citrus]

Ok, let's bring this channel back to spoilers

[cosmic anvil]

Where are my Sean BAFTA emojis Gleam? 😭

[dense quartz]

"Defeat 3 things"
1/3
2/3
.....3/5! Gotta defeat 5 actually.
5/8.... nvm, it's actually 8 things you have to defeat
6/8
7/8 ...almost there! Just one more!
8/10 actually 10! 2 more to go!
9/10 one more!
10/14 just 4 more! :D

Why does this game do this?

[hard stirrup]

Those milestones are not lies...each one ranks up your medal and each medal maxes out at tier 10. So when you reached 3 your medal became tier 2, when you reached 5 it became tier 3, etc. You will max it out when you have 30 wins over Oceanus. You will get more titles from that medal when you will have beat Oceanus 15, 20, and 30 times.

The earliest possible date that Oceanus' medal can be wrapped up is May 6th if you haven't missed a day...I just noticed yesterday that new Oceanus fights become available in the evening, not in the morning with the daily Quicksilver quest as I had previously assumed. I still need to test the exact time of day a new challenge fight becomes available but I suspect it operates on the same timer as frigate expeditions, so when 5 new frigate expeditions become available that's when you can fight Oceanus again...I think.

If you haven't missed a day you should be on 13 wins vs Oceanus now. Outside of oceanus fights I am working hard on sorting out a lineup of epic SSS pets to be ready for seasonal Arena content.

[icy citrus]

@dense quartz and @hard stirrup Reel it back into spoilers please

[hot trout]

I found a planetary archive detailing Korvax spies infiltrating the ranks of the First Spawn by taking on forms of flesh and committing the atrocities the First Spawn did

Oh right
@near forge

[near forge]

So Synthigek taken to an extreme basically?

Also btw Arti, do you think there are any lore implications about our character being able to enter the expeditions via the terminal? Is it just a game mechanic, and do you think that our character would keep the memory of having been in this „alternate“ dimension?

I‘ve been dwelling on this for a bit, mainly because of the fact that through this way our character would have been able to visit purple systems without those having even been restored in their own universe.

Ig it does works as those expo universe are basically alternate dimensions from what I understand, but I‘m still wondering whether our character gets to keep the experience.

[hot trout]

When it comes to a personal character, I think thats up to you whether they keep their memories or not. I have my main save character as one who holds memories even from my first save

[near forge]

Oh wow that's a really cool premise. I kinda thought about doing the same myself, but I basically forgot all about it lol.

But the idea was that my character wouldn't really remember their past iterations, but be influenced by them in subtle ways.

Should I be able to obtain one of the old Atlas Stones in modern NMS (I've been trying for a while don't wanna 'cheat' lol), I might use this as a gateway for my char to basically unlock all of their old memories; or whenever I finally jump through the centre to Hilbert.

I haven't done a natural galaxy jump myself ever, only went through Eissentam via the quest, or by having other people bring me to a different galaxy/visit bases there.

[pastel merlin]

when is xbox update coming out

[heady wyvern]

We can't be exactly sure. If anyone in this server is a dev, they've never told us.

So I'm certain nobody here is.

[pastel merlin]

the sun will go supernova by the chance i am able to play with my friend

[paper spire]

jeese where can I read what was updated? I am in Steam.

i tried commands update and gunter had tizzy

[hard stirrup]

https://www.nomanssky.com/2026/04/xeno-arena-6-34/

[paper spire]

:0

dangit didn't mention losing inventory on ship building and buying.

i think it also happens on freighter inventory transfers

i reported the ship building bug with a video included. i was so proud of my oldself

well, thank you @hard stirrup I wasn't sure I had gotten the correct notes. now I feel sure.

[crisp shell]

The start to the "In Stellar Multitudes" quest is genuinely so awesome

Like it catches you off guard with that fake end at the Anomaly, and then all of sudden it starts right back up. I actually got a bit invested

[warped plaza]

what choice should I make in the purge story quest?

[hot trout]

Ngl I was gonna say the same thing lodestone did, lol

[burnt rapids]

anyone wanna see what happens when you bind the reality anchor with the scaffolding????

[primal ginkgo]

Do if i have max standing with a faction and loose it all by attacking there ships can those outlaw passports restore it to previous max easily?

If yes how do I get them

It's been so long since I played last I don't remember alot

[hard stirrup]

You don't lose it all immediately...for example each destroyed NPC freighter pod or NPC ship loses you 1 standing...so if you have surplus standing you can do it without losing rank for a while...depending on how much surplus standing for a while. I have nearly 5000 standing with the Korvax and whenever I have to do something that loses me standing I do it to the Korvax because I've got lots of room to maneuver there.

[hard stirrup]

Now when it comes to recovering lost standing there are different rules for positive standing and negative standing. Positive standing(ie your total standing is above 0) you can only make up the hard way but if you are in deep negative standing(ie bellow 0) hole then you can get a forged passport or a station override key from a pirate system and take it to the station core of a civilized system of the race you are in trouble with and use it...if your standing is bellow 0, doing that will bring your standing back to 0, otherwise it will have no effect. So if you drop to -150 standing using forged passports or station overrides will bring you back to 0 but if you do bad stuff and drop from 200 standing to 187 for example then forged passports and station overrides won't help restore the damage.

[primal ginkgo]

That sucks

[gilded girder]

But you can just go around practicing dialogue and giving race-specific items to random people, which totally makes up for destroying a freighter (somehow)

[restive sluice]

Or you could confuse guild envoys about why you have extra copy of crew manifest and captains log and instead give you 80 rep for the set instead of 5

[paper spire]

anyone run through the challenger fights? i wanted to know if WE know that they always scale, or do the fights get tougher as you progress?

[north echo]

Xeno battles?

If yes, i notice regular challangers usually have C-A class pets, champions do get stronger, usually have S or A

[hard stirrup]

You mean Oceanus' daily challenge fights? They do scale to your pets but otherwise they don't increase in difficulty. The pets he challenges you each day with are fixed and the same for all players so you can't influence his lineup by going to other systems. That's about it.

[paper spire]

I was asking about the coords we get for challengers invites

[hot trout]

They scale based on your team

[paper spire]

My plan is to run challenges. But all base level Pets. I love ragtag teams that are sleeper strong. Not even farming s s s

If one’s an S cool. But looking for good combos.

I want to test gen one. As found then run aggressive on gen two. Or helpful or independent

See how it goes.

[north echo]

I hate that laylaps (ingame, not the server's bot) wont even agknowledge my existence🙏😭 bro speaking to my suit's ai (telamon)..

[sour fossil]

you sure about that?

Note how Laylaps refers to you as Telamon-Not-Telamon

[north echo]

That is telamon, telamon-not-telamon as in, it is telamon, but it isnt telamon, since telamon was downgraded to a suit ai

[primal ginkgo]

I'm trying to figure out what the next step for the living ship is, the games telling me to examine the cracked egg but I cannot figure out what it's mean

My best guess is a portal but idk how to even find one if thats the case

[hard stirrup]

Read the description...it's a set of portal glyphs and a galaxy name.

You need to go there.

[primal ginkgo]

Ah

How do I find a portal again?

Also do portals allow you to select the galaxy?

[hard stirrup]

Find monolith, answer correctly, use monolith again, find portal.

[hard stirrup]

No, but it's in euclid galaxy...you can just go to one of the featured bases in Euclid if you aren't there and go from there.

[primal ginkgo]

Does the featured base tell you what galaxy it'd in?

[hard stirrup]

Yes.

[primal ginkgo]

That's so much work, qhat are you meant to do wothout multiplayer?

If this just off limits to you??

[primal ginkgo]

I fear I may be stupid

Because i cannot figure out how to find specific bases

[lunar musk]

happy birthday stranger

[primal ginkgo]

Thanks.... but uhhh mines not for a few more days,

[lunar musk]

i will not see you later

[primal ginkgo]

Well thank you :3

[hard stirrup]

The anomaly teleporter has 5 featured bases at the very top you can't miss them. But do you even need to go to Euclid? Did you ever even leave Euclid? What galaxy are you in?

[primal ginkgo]

Yes....... I didn't know euclid was thr one you start in....

[hard stirrup]

Dude...open the galactic map and look at the top left corner of the screen...it will tell you the name of the galaxy you are in.

*top left

[primal ginkgo]

How do you tell what each of these symbols corresponding two?

[white edge]

glyphs. there are some guides online, or you could ask around for the straight glyphs in #nms-questions

[primal ginkgo]

Thanks :3

[primal ginkgo]

Ur pfp reminds me of pixel star ships

[white edge]

almost cuz that's where it's from :v

[primal ginkgo]

Yooooo

Didn't wanna presume:3

[hard stirrup]

You just need to figrue out what glyph each description represents...the hunter is the bird , the spiral of reality should be this , etc. But the entire portal address should be this one:

[primal ginkgo]

Am I stupid why won't the portal let me put the same glyth in more than once

[ebon spoke]

Are you charging the portal with resources?

[primal ginkgo]

Yes

[hard stirrup]

Then you are not inputting a portal address yet...you first need to charge all glyphs and then you can type in an address.

[light cypress]

I just got to the end of Artemis’s story last night and it made me cry

[white edge]

I walk a lonely road

[light cypress]

It was so sad

At least she isn’t suffering anymore

[primal ginkgo]

Why is the living ship good??

I want to belive it is

But so far nothing I try slotting in to it is compatable

[hard stirrup]

Honestly it's not. It doesn't have access to most ship weapons, including all the good ones, doesn't have access to X class modules so it can't have all the best module bonuses, and it lacks most blueprint tech which also costs a lot in additional bonuses and connection bonuses. And its stat bonuses aren't great either, and it's a massive pain to upgrade its slots. All in all it is a weak ship type that is a massive pain to upgrade. The only value it has going for it is novelty and it has a hidden "alien" trait...right now all that trait does is it makes it so only living ship can encounter Void Egg space encounters, which give living ship upgrades. But in theory that is something HG could do more in the future with. So I like to keep one maxed living ship in my ship lineup in case it becomes relevant in the future.

[primal ginkgo]

I fear your correct

People were saying. How good this ship type is and hwo it's worth the wait but it seems it isnt

[light cypress]

I’ve never felt so empty. Traveling through space to the galactic center on hope