nms-spoilers

[solemn zinc]

Yea of course.

Thanks

[solemn zinc]

Oh man

[misty root]

So, does Atlas Eternal just keep going or does it eventually end? I have given a world, fauna and flora to Atlas.

[icy citrus]

Actually eternal

[misty root]

Okay, purge it is then.

[misty root]

Does everyone after the purge start in Hilbert Dimension? And that is a galaxy, correct?

[fluid valley]

Someone have the golden radiant btw ?

[analog breach]

!faq-artemispath

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<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> **Artemis Path Missions**

The main storyline The Artemis Path is composed of these missions:

1. Awakenings
2. Alone Amidst the Stars
3. Ghosts in the Machine (requires progression in Expanding the Base, a secondary quest)
4. A Leap in the Dark
5. The First Traveller
6. Patterns in Time
7. 16 / 16
8. The Purge - 16 warps in any direction. It does not require travelling to the core.
9. New Beginnings - Like the Space Anomaly mission, this will forever remain in your Log tab (even after this quest's completion).

Do not reuse portals found via the storyline to prevent bugs.

❓ For in-depth questions about these missions, ask in #nms-spoilers, or in #nms-questions with spoiler tags -- run !SpoilerTag in #bot-spam for help.

📖 Did you know? The Atlas Path and The Purge mission can be completed in tandem.

📚 Contributor: bkay201

[analog breach]

Hilbert is a galaxy

[fluid valley]

The worst galaxy

[misty root]

Okily dokily

[misty root]

How do you get the autophage missions?

[analog breach]

!faq-echoes

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❔ **Stuck starting the Echoes content?**

Make sure the steps below are completed.

⚠️ Use #bot-spam for FAQ commands below & check #nms-questions for the latest details about the update.

1. Finish the Artemis Path (main story). Run !Faq-ArtemisPath in #bot-spam.
2. Lift the Seal from a Harmonic Camp. Run !Faq-Interceptor in #bot-spam.
3. Warp to any system -- if that triggers a freighter battle, you must warp again.

❗ This information has been verified as of <t:1694212090:D> (after Update 4.44) & is subject to change.

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required. A Settlement used to be needed -- except on Switch, where you'd have to trigger it by warping 25 times.

📚 Contributors: Atlas Emissaries & friendlyfirepl

[proper drum]

It's all a simulation.

[heady wyvern]

Ayup. Welcome to the waterline of the iceberg.

[stable pendant]

I've found Artemis.

🫡 😥 🪦

Created a tomb for her.

And a temple over it.

[solar juniper]

SHE DIES?!

[fading orbit]

Well you’re in the spoilers channel so…

[fading orbit]

Technically this isn’t fully true

[toxic delta]

greetings

[austere hull]

what if the exotic planets were meant to be normal looking planets but halfway through the atlas casually downloading them the data inside the planets got corrupted which caused them to become exotic

[austere hull]

i like to imagine hydro gardens were originally intended to be lush worlds but the data inside them got corrupted

[proper drum]

It is in my storyline 😂

[fading orbit]

Same

[static crystal]

I felt it was the morally "right" thing for Artemis

[frail ermine]

"Terraforming Nightmare"

[formal vessel]

I finished the Atlas path missions and is it weird that I find us/the player sharing our/their discoveries with the Atlas adorable? I don't remember the dialogue for it and Idc if the Atlas is just a program. I'm just picturing it as the equivalent of the player holding up a drawing (cool discovery) up to the Atlas to put onto the fridge (make a solar system or something i forgot)

[noble portal]

||what did the gek dominion do and what why did it fall||

[sharp anvil]

well, she is already dead, you can bring back a "copy" of her in a new simulation, or let her rest.

[clever topaz]

|The Gek dominion, the First Spawn, were an empire that spread themselves far and wide after their home planet fell, and they took homes of others by conquering planets with near-unstoppable amounts of forces, with advanced tactical motifs. The reason they fell was not due to themselves, but due to a race the First Spawn had enslaved and melted down for valuable metals and components: the Korvax. Some slaves would cut themselves open near Gek birthing pits, letting their nanite-infused blood “mutate” the unborn Gek, causing chemical imbalances in their brains, which caused them to slowly abandon war, and adopt trading, and worshipping the Atlas as time went on, basically making the two races blood brothers. They’re still quite distinct from one another, due to the way each of them are created, however.|

Does that make sense?

Wait why spoilers no work

[noble portal]

im pretty sure u dont need spoilers anyways

this is the spoilers chat

[clever topaz]

That’s fair

But yeah, hope it makes sense

[noble portal]

makes sense

i think that korvax had some resources on thier home planet as well?

[clever topaz]

Yeah, I assume the First Spawn are also the reason why Korvax Prime was destroyed

They were basically tiny pheromone-emitting space Mongols

(When Genghis Khan was still around)

[noble portal]

Do h think korvax evolve or were they made

[analog breach]

Need double column ||

[clever topaz]

The Korvax were made as a mechanical lifeform, who build themselves

[static crystal]

I wish the base NPCs had some kind of real usefulness after their quests were done. They're mostly just there doing nothing.

[noble portal]

h o w....?

[clever topaz]

If username, I just ↪️

If Korvax, they were created that way when the Atlas was making iterations

[vital geyser]

What pros are there, story wise, to resetting the simulation at the end of the Artemis Path? I was wanting a quick way to Eissentam, but it doesn't feel like resetting makes much sense.

From what you're told, resetting seems pointless at best and harmful at worst.

[ebon spoke]

Well, visiting Eissentam is resetting the simulation no matter how you travel to it. If you think that a simulation using the 'lush' parameters would be better than one using the default parameters, that's the story justification.

Also the Atlas running more simulations theoretically is allowing it to improve on each iteration, and also allows it to gain more data/a better understanding of the universe

[glass flare]

at this point Atlas is just tired of its children

"don't make me put you in an exosuit again!"

[vital geyser]

iirc, you're told during the story that the Atlas has likely already reset countless times, and it doesn't really change anything. The only reason your character gives if you choose to reset is "I want to see what happens".
I guess even if it doesn't really change anything or is even brought up again, I prefer Nada and Polo to remember all that we've done together.
Just seems a bit anticlimactic to walk away from the Atlas at the end I suppose

[proper drum]

Artemis dies.

[static crystal]

Again and again and again.....

[shut sparrow]

Ay so. I know this is not a DIRECT question towards lore and stuff.

BUT

It's technically still a part of the world lore I guess since players are cannon I think

So my question is... Well, what stories or background did you give for your character/avatar. IF you gave it one?

[proper drum]

Generic isekai.

[analog breach]

Always was.

[golden root]

need help!

I found the atlas interface (where u reset the simulation at the end of atlas path) and I have all the galaxy options available to me still

when i first finished the story I think i picked lush and got eissentam

if I now pick other options will I get new galaxies or nah

[sharp anvil]

Nanites, bunch of single cellular sized pieces coming together to form a mass of a single entity from a collective hive mind from the swarm. Their bodies or shells just hold the physical form their newly made ego feels most comfortable in. *(personal speculation)

[noble portal]

i think they evolved

[shut sparrow]

LMAO

[analog breach]

Hmmm

[shut sparrow]

That emoji lol

[noble needle]

Nah. The Korvax did questionable stuff to stop the gek genocides and slavery.

They genetically modified the gek spawn pools. Using Nanites to change the way the Gek function. Fully letting the Korvax go

[narrow thunder]

That's not questionable, it's actually a really interesting solution considering they were enslaved
Instead of going for revenge they just let the new Gek be and go about their business

No hate for the Gek, they just wanted to live and let live

[narrow thunder]

There's an archive log that's specifically about that

it doesn't give a definitive answer, but 3 theories made by the korvax themselves

1. They were always machines and were made that way(presumably by the Atlas)
2. They were built by an organic species that isn't them and became conscious
3. They were organics before and slowly transformed themselves (or were forced by other species) into machines

We know there are many universes in NMS so I assume 2 and 3 can be true depending on the iteration. 1 is the fourth wall breaking and definitely true one if you look at it as a meta narrative

Korvax my beloveds

[glass flare]

Personally I never liked the treatment of the three races, because they're basically racist views of distinct groups, in the same way that D&D has historically said that all Orcs are inherently evil, etc. I know that Atlas probably created these archetypes in order to simulate broad experiments about cultural clashes, but it doesn't make how they are viewed in the lore any more palatable.

[ebon spoke]

Especially when they're all functionally identical in terms of gameplay. They should have just stuck with the idea of each appealing to one of the three main playstyles instead of attaching weird morality to them

[noble portal]

I'd love to see a scientist gek or a trader korvax, just to show that the labels are just labels and there's a significant population who don't adhere to the stereotype of their race

[misty root]

Anybody do the quicksilver glitch? 1st glitch thing I have ever purposefully done in a game.

[golden root]

?

[icy citrus]

If you can somehow pick again (you shouldn't be able to) then it would send you to the next type in numerical order

So another lush would take you from Eissentam (10) to Isdoraijung (19) - the next lush galaxy

[regal skiff]

bro i am so happy

[surreal maple]

organic freighters when

[golden root]

Ok ty

[storm urchin]

So I'm at the point in the story where it's asking me to upload Artemis to the sub Sim or end his suffering and I'm very torn, on one hand they get to live on, bit if they ever find out or figure out that they are no longer real...., on the other hand they are no longer suffering, but they are dead

[analog breach]

Choice dont mater much. Choice just changes some dialog. Do what your guts tell u.

[storm urchin]

That doesn't help.....lol

But ty for letting me know it only affects dialog

@analog breach what did you pick, I can't decide

[analog breach]

I did both choices

[storm urchin]

? Separate playthroughs?

Random choice it is, close my eyes, hold down on the stick, and just press a

[rain mesa]

256 galaxies … next time you reach the center you progress to next galaxy in order … so the choice of type only occurs once … but you can find a portal and jump to the center of the next galaxy if you don’t like the next one

Google galaxy types … there is a chart showing all 256 in order

[keen ether]

Hi, I have 3 primary mission and bunch of secondary left. its the one before "reset simulation" I wonder if I need to do them first or they will remain afterwards?
The Purge
The space Anomoly (reset)
The Atlas path

[hollow sapphire]

Can we get this lampshade head too?

[sour fossil]

It was an expedition reward, Singularity exped

So it's already available for players who completed it or used other methods to get it

[fervent fern]

For that matter, I've never seen it in the wild lol.

[analog breach]

Not much players want to have roomba or table with cloth on their head. But after boot in a jar. Who knows.

[gleaming roost]

What happens if I reset the simulation (The Purge)

Do I loose everything

[edgy bluff]

You will still have your entire inventory, but all of your tech will be broken and require repairs.

[toxic delta]

I finally got my first interceptor, and organic frigate

Does anyone remember doing the first open day for Worlds 2?

[shadow creek]

I have thalassophobia (fear of the ocean, deep waters, drowning, etc) and this game is less scary than Subnautica so I’m playing the Dreams Of The Deep questline as therapy! Playing in third person really helps, makes it feel less realistic. Has anyone else got phobias that this game helped them with?

[gleaming roost]

Autophobia

[shadow creek]

Phobia of cars or of being alone? I’m glad to hear the game helps you work on the phobia, it’s no different from going to therapy for it in my opinion if it gets the same result 🙂

[gleaming roost]

The game gave me autophobia

Im all alone in this simulation

[haughty current]

How are they different?

[midnight nova]

what happens if i don't reset the simulation?

[edgy bluff]

All your stuff will still break, but you will not be transported to another galaxy and you will be put on a random planet in Euclid.

[midnight nova]

okk thanks

[toxic delta]

are there bots that follow people and land beside them? is this happening to anyone else?

[quaint mason]

wdym by follow? there is a feature called landed pilots, they are npcs that randomly land and offer x class upgrades.

[analog breach]

Your squadrom follows u. But i dint think they can land with u

[manic vapor]

The gek hate is actually insane they have literally biologically changed and don’t have the thirst for war anymore and most gek I meet are usually really nice just a little greedy😭

[analog breach]

Korvax changed them . Not because geks want to be better tho

[fervent fern]

A quick commentary: I'm doing the main questline for the second time ever -- first was when I got the game, in 2021 -- and knowing everything... it hits differently.
Just got through the first contacts with Artemis on a heavy heart.

[manic vapor]

Do we know the location of korvax prime or other species home worlds

[manic vapor]

Even if we ignore the fact most gek are really nice to try and compensate for the actions of the first spawn they still are biologically changed and no longer want war anymore😭

[desert robin]

Can hello games add a happy ending when The game stops getting updated? 😦

[edgy bluff]

There really isn't anything much they can do in terms of capping off the lore that people have been building upon for the past nine years. The day is coming when they'll stop developing for PS4 and Xbox One due to their hardware limitations and the only thing they can do is a massive hotfix that fixes a load of bugs to give us a more pure game.

[icy citrus]

Korvax prime is gone

I forget about the others if their current states were mentioned

[icy citrus]

I don't think it will be hardware limitations, they have already shown with the Switch version they will just leave out things. But the day is coming when the manufacturers themselves stop support for games on those systems.

[ebon spoke]

The difference is that the switch doesn't have multiplayer, or by extension cross-play which last gen consoles do.

They can either continue to not add large features that can't work on old consoles, or they can drop them from cross-play multiplayer support

If they decide to stick with the former, they'll eventually have to do the latter when Sony/Microsoft drop online support from those consoles anyway

[pliant onyx]

Found this string of numbers on the vulture (behind the comand deck window)
2431987//342

Translating it into letters it reads
BECAIHG//CBD

[analog breach]

24.3. 1987? Hmm

[edgy grove]

Not sure if i needed to post here but can someone help me, I've now completed main atlas missions and then the autophage introduction ( up to me interacting with an atlas interface and speaking to nala) I'm unsure if there is anything after this now?

[real sapphire]

i think those are just flavour text decal, its on most, or probably all of the haulers

[glass flare]

might be someone's birthday on the dev team

[real sapphire]

possibly

[pliant onyx]

I think there is the base computer archives quest still

And the Artemis quest

[wanton scaffold]

What can I do in the game after beating the main story

I reset the simulation and got a new galaxy but it’s not too much different

I only encountered one new-game plus-esque feature and it was some explorer giving me a inventory slot for free through a “inventory memory” or something

[glass flare]

this is a sandbox game at heart, the story is just a bonus. so just dig in to whatever mix of things you want to do -- explore planets, build bases, find the perfect ship, set up farms, go on derelict freighter missions, whatever floats your boat

[sour fossil]

Finishing main story line is one of the steps to unlock further story missions related to Autophage race and purple star systems

Check out the commands !faq-echoes and !faq-purplesystems in #bot-spam respectively

Aside from that, there's still a lot to do, like Solar hinted the game opens into a sandbox experience

Exploring different planets, in-game photography, collecting and upgrading ships, getting frigates and sending them on missions, completing side quests, base building, Nexus missions and expeditions

[wanton scaffold]

I’m on the atlas quest and it gave me and option to birth a new star or to walk away and return: does either one reset my progress or anything

[sour fossil]

Nope

[wanton scaffold]

It just let me birth a new star, and then I refused it afterwards

And it ended the quest

So I can choose to either end the questline or have atlas eternity

[solar scaffold]

question - so I've finished the Atlas path and rebooted into a new lush galaxy - but I cant see the In Stellar Multitudes and I cant get access to the new star types. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

[sour fossil]

!faq-purplesystems

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Worlds Part 2 Content

How to get started...

📖 Warning: Purple systems are end-game content so you must finish certain quests before you can access them.

1. Complete the Artemis Path (the main story of the game).
   -# > !faq-artemispath in #bot-spam shows the steps.
2. Atlas Eternal must show in your mission log, once Atlas Path is completed.
3. Find a Harmonic Camp and release the multi-tool seal.
   -# > !faq-interceptor in #bot-spam shows how to find them.
4. Warp to trigger: They Who Returned and complete the Autophage missions.
5. Return to space, aim towards empty space, and engage Pulse Drive, disengage when you see the quest's Space Encounter.
6. New Mission: In Stellar Multitudes.

🛑 Warning: Do not leave the Atlas Station system you'll go to in the quest without visiting its space station or claiming a base computer on one of its planets.

7. Finish the mission to reveal all purple systems on the galaxy map.
   Type !faq-starcolor in #bot-spam for more info.

These are the known steps as of update 5.5 Worlds Pt II (<t:1738163940:D>) and are subject to change.
-# See patch notes »

Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[solar scaffold]

thank you

[stuck plank]

are we going to get or can we get a galactic space cop community to chase troll in the game for cool stuff like upgrades and ships or even unique weapons ,, that will be cool

[molten ridge]

I know it's dumb, and I know it mechanically doesn't matter, but still.

are there any particular implications I should know about

[ember heart]

it's just like

a simulation

nada made a simulated solar system and you can put artemis in it instead of just letting them die or smth

so you choose whichever option you think is best

[molten ridge]

It's tough, y'know? And I like that in a game. None of it really matters, the game is a game. But then it shoves this question into you

the implication being a single system is... Oof. After I've explored so many

stupid video game making me cry.

[solar scaffold]

am really struggling - Primary Missions are The Space Anomaly, Atlas Eternal, and New Beginnings and yet I havent found a single harmonic camp yet. Any tips?

[fading orbit]

You need to find a dissonant system, go to a dissonant planet and blow up an inverted mirror to get an echo locator

[solar scaffold]

am on a dissonant plant - not sure what an inverted mirror is?

[fading orbit]

Check your analysis visor

There should hopefully be some inverted mirror icons

[solar scaffold]

ah

[fading orbit]

Blowing them up will either give you an inverted mirror or an echo locator

[solar scaffold]

`cant see any atm - will move a bit with the ship and will re-scan

[fading orbit]

Sounds good

[solar scaffold]

can see radiant shards but that's it

found a resonator 300au way - omw

okay - have an echo locator. thank you

[fading orbit]

Great!

[solar scaffold]

So I got a new multi tool but haven't a clue what comes next

[fading orbit]

Go back to the terminal and search for dissonance spikes

[runic mesa]

You're looking for a dissonant resonator. They look kinda like drills, with corrupted Sentinels guarding them.

Sentinels won't bother you until you fire on it. Walk up and check if it has an inverted mirror or an echo locator. If it's an echo locator, destroy the resonator to get it. The Sentinels will attack you, but you can just run.

Activating the echo locator will mark a harmonic camp for you. You need to unlock the terminal there.

[dapper osprey]

I am at the quest part to go to the center of the galaxy. Do I need to finish up secondary quests, or the Atlas Path before I continue and finish the main story line?

[zenith perch]

lore or?

the purple systems imply Void Mother is infecting the simulator

After all

They Will Return, In Stellar Multitudes

[molten ridge]

I do love mothers and multitudes

[noble portal]

my cup of tea is the expeditions

[vagrant sentinel]

Yeah and we probably need an interstellar fishing group or something🤪

[runic mesa]

I would love a fishing guild, actually.

[molten ridge]

Artemis Path (Colourized) circa 161616

[ebon spoke]

surprised we haven't gotten any sort of 'skeleton in a space suit' anywhere in the game yet

[molten ridge]

give it time, we just got fossils

[ebon spoke]

since its such a staple of classic sci fi art

[molten ridge]

You're right though. It'd fit in with the theme so well

[ebon spoke]

would make a nice helmet option or something, if they do a halloween update this year I could see it

[molten ridge]

do it like dark souls bloodstains, but they aren't limited to the location. it's how another player died replayed in a hologram. You follow them getting bodied or flying into a mountain to find the skeleton space suit

adding the ability to add a message whenever you died would be bonus points. I'd be able to spiral myself into the ground and have my death message as "oops afk" for the random person who finds it three years later

[fading orbit]

We have helmets gloves and boots floating around in derelicts

[analog breach]

Bc there is a teory that there is nothing in the anomaly space suit

[fervent fern]

...considering you can have a glowing orb or a fishtank in place of a head, that's a reasonable theory lol.

[hollow viper]

looks like a portal

[edgy grove]

I'm looking at beginning my intergalactic travels after finishing the main quest lines. How do I change between galaxy systems? Without warping to someone else's position as I mainly play by myself.

[frigid valley]

Warping through the galactic core will take you to the next galaxy on the list

!faq-corewarp @edgy grove

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@edgy grove
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<:atlasnmscord:1269532093076078658> **Galactic Core Warp**

• How to reach the Galactic Core via Portals in any galaxy »
• How to warp to the Galactic Core in your ship »
• See infographic guide below or watch quick demo
• See list of galaxies. More Wiki info »

Contributors: Atlas Emissaries & uselessuk

[frigid valley]

But it will break your technology the same way finishing the story does when you chose to reset

[edgy grove]

Awesome thank you I'll give it a go next time I log in 😁

[rain folio]

Quick question in and out. I’m now starting towards the galaxy’s center. Is the plot of the game that it’s a video game?

Like, am I going through an existential crisis?

[icy citrus]

No

[icy citrus]

Yes

[storm urchin]

Do I have to leave the first galaxy to complete the atlas quest line?

[fervent fern]

The Atlas Path? Don't think so.

Also, lol, the convo above might be my review for the game on Steam.
"Am I going through an existential crisis?"
"Yes."

[glass flare]

Whether you're going through an existential crisis is left up to the player, but Atlas definitely is

[fervent fern]

Almost feel sorry for the Crimson Liar

[glass flare]

yeah, I guess its creators didn't really consider Atlas alive, or didn't care enough to bring it with them. At least they gave it the choice of staying alive vs. being shut down, but millennia of solitude would probably make anyone go a bit cuckoo. then you add in its hardware failing and it's not having a good year

[surreal terrace]

have there been any interesting data mines recently?

[agile osprey]

Brother where is the update 😫

[heady wyvern]

When it is ready.

[buoyant zealot]

didn’t we just get like two updates lol

no mans gets a lot more frequent updates than most games tbh

[fading orbit]

Peak game

[icy citrus]

No, not recently

Months ago the weird ship type was found - seems to be a larger ship than our personals but smaller than a frigate - Corvette. Has a place to build on, it seems

[river surge]

What ship ?

[icy citrus]

Called a Corvette in the texture files

https://x.com/bomber_that/status/1884646409246232873

ThatBomberBoi (@bomber_that) on X

#NoMansSkySpoilers several texture references to a "Corvette" spaceship, with mentions of a hanger and rooms, as well as an odd "SCREENTEST" texture.

X · Jan 29, 2025, 4:54 PM

[safe quarry]

I also saw something about new audio files for the player? Heavy breathing, and that kind of idle sounds with different voice types.

[icy citrus]

Sweet, I haven't seen those

[safe quarry]

But i am more excited about the corvettes!

Bomberboi found them i think? It mentioned two voice types (male/female?) and an alien one as well as a fourth for no audio.

[icy citrus]

Very interesting

[safe quarry]

It could also become new expedition reward types or quicksilver items i bet! If they add different voice types that way? Like robotic, Gek, Korvax etc. But that's me hypothesising now.

[safe quarry]

This makes me hopeful that corvettes aren't just an idea they played with and couldn't implement. if they're making room designs then clearly the idea is moving forwards.

[icy citrus]

Different voices for the suit would be welcome too

[icy citrus]

Seems like it yeah

[safe quarry]

Yes I think there was something about the suit voice too. Again i think it was just male and female options

@grizzled apex Would be the one to ask tho.

I'm anxious we haven't seen an emoji for tomorrow. Means either there's no update or its just something small like an expedition he will tease on the day.

[icy citrus]

Need a little break, already 2 expeditions this year

I'm guessing June for whatever is next

[safe quarry]

As much as I enjoy the odd expedition, i could definitely do with just an update without it needing an expedition tagged onto it.

The FOMO makes me feel like i have to do the expedition before I can enjoy the new content. But then because the expedition makes me collect 80 bones, i'm mostly exhausted on the new content before i finish the expedition 🤣

I am still crossing my fingers for an overhaul to POIs on planets, because i feel like that's the last piece of the puzzle missing from the worlds updates.

The actual reason to travel and explore on foot

[icy citrus]

They started a bit, adding harmonic camps, Autophage, and now excavation sites

Hopefully that continues

[arctic bough]

Also the lol quests outposts can give you

[safe quarry]

yes exactly. I would like them to almost have an update dedicated to it. Or piecemeal it and have an update that fleshes out each

[arctic bough]

But those sucklll

[safe quarry]

like an update to the ruins

Yes the procedural missions desperately need a revisit! They came all the way back with Atlas Rises and have not changed much since.

an update at all tomorrow is looking unlikely though. Wouldn't at least some of the sales on platforms already be on?

The super cynic in me predicts it'll be an expedition only, and it will give us the parts to the stone mech from the last update as parts we can actually use.

[ebon spoke]

It does seem like they were possibly aiming for an update with the expedition ending on a wednesday, but I don't expect one this week.

every expedition starts with an end date and it's totally possible that in the time since they set this one that something came up and they had to delay the release of whatever they're working on

Don't forget about how they teased the Orbital update's space stations at the game awards but ended up doing multiple updates before releasing them, or how the original in game slash text for worlds part I hinted at part II releasing the same summer

[grizzled apex]

there's no next expedition set serverside yet, so nothing on that front. I kinda expected something to drop this wednesday but it looks like they're giving taking break between relics and the next drop

[grizzled apex]

Yep, just these few text entries. No actual settings so far iirc

[icy citrus]

Alien tones pls thx

[safe quarry]

I wonder whether having the suit voice off is one of these things where I think i'll want it now, but then when I have it it'll feel lonely without it

[safe quarry]

would you normally see something serverside by now? how can you tell?

Imagine if the new voices came with a full immersive update to first person where we can see our bodies and arms. It's already possible with VR, so something for the rest of us would be great. The thing holding it back would be the weapon reloads.

But not having our multitool floating in the air would be amazing.

Seeing your arm come up and the holographic display like VR for the quick menu, even if you pull it up in your ship.

[grizzled apex]

they pushed a next expedition number for relics a week or so after WPII dropped, so its kinda up in the air when they decide to push these things. Usually i've noticed that expeditions which are a part of a larger update (ex liquidators and titan) aren't pushed serverside until after that update drops, and that expeditions pushed before their respective update drops are usually expedition only or paired w/ a small content update (ex relics, aquarius, the cursed), although HG can really break pattern at any time 😅

[safe quarry]

Given that it's my conspiracy theory that the expedition terminal was deliberately brought in to one day house a full list of expeditions at the end of NMS' life, where we can replay them at will, I think they need to be careful about what expeditions they bring in the future.

I feel the redux version of beachhead was them maybe refining one of those earlier expeditions for when that happens. And Omega consolidated some rewards from other expeditions. I think they'd have to drop some of the expeditions, but also the more they 'just throw expeditions out there' the more work they are making for themselves if they do eventually have an update that makes expeditions all permanent.

[grizzled apex]

they kinda have to tweak older expeditions anyway since they love introducing one-off properties to the expedition structure which older exped files don't have. Its probably an automated fix, but they didn't really plan the system out for backwards compatibility, and they're not doing a lot of favour for future HG with how they structure new exped content rn either

[safe quarry]

Exactly. Ones like leviathan, cursed, emergence etc were great because they had a unique theme. But the first, beachhead, omega and i think it was fractal? Are all really the same expedition with different rewards.

The more i think about my immersive idea the more i think that might be something they could and probably should port back from LNF if it even has first person mode. They can kind of get away without a player model in NMS because the hands would be offscreen anyway with the multitool. But swords, shields, bows etc are going to look conspicuous all floating around without visible hands holding them.

and it would pair nicely with all the new audio files for exersion. Seeing hands when we sprint or flailing while we fall.

(and finally FINALLY, our characters could put some kind of sci fi binoculars up to their face when using the scanner like in the key art, rather than just making hand binoculars 🤣 )

[ebon spoke]

There's even been the binoculars model on Artemis since before we even had player models lol

On the topic of old expeditions, I kinda think that the terminal is meant to eventually serve that purpose too, though logistically it would be a lot of work for them to do.

I'm certain that one of the reasons expeditions run for limited time is because they rely on set planets. As the game updates, those planets will get changed and old milestones may no longer be possible. HG don't want to have to ensure that expeditions are future proof, and they don't want to have future updates limited in scope by what will or will not break some old expedition that most players aren't going to do more than once

For a final update it makes sense, but still, needing to update all the expeditions to still be playable will be a lot of work, and if the game is already at the end of its life cycle at that point I'm not sure they'll want to do it

[gloomy isle]

Since it's May, I wonder if this will be it until the summer update

Since that would only be a month or two away anyway

[safe quarry]

This is actually a really good point.

I do think they'll find some way to bring back all the rewards once they do shutter the game one way or another tho. But I hadn't thought of how updates might impact old expeditions.

Has the community progress hit 100%? Because they will at least have to have that move over to the next set of rewards.

I remember when that was the only measure we had of how long until the next update, when they didn't come in straight after one another. And you could judge how long we had to wait by how quickly if filled and how much time they were buying themselves.

[grizzled apex]

its pretty close rn i believe. The rollover date for the next CM to start wasn't set until yesterday I believe, and that one's now currently expected to end somewhere in june.

[safe quarry]

UH OH!

[grizzled apex]

i can check that rq actually

[grizzled apex]

there's still at least 3 more tiers after this one in the files though, so theres no urgency to update the awards yet

[safe quarry]

Although if there really isn't an intermittent update, waiting until June might mean its something more substantial.

corvettes

[grizzled apex]

has cm progress correlated with update releases recently? I thought the last few tiers have been kinda independant of when an update dropped. Iirc they've been pushing the peeping fauna banner back by several tiers since they keep cramming more update specific rewards in between 😅

[safe quarry]

oh maybe it's not a good measure anymore? I haven't really kept track since updates started coming in one after the other!

Here's the tin hat theory: its a light no fire trailer tomorrow and Sean doesn't want to disappoint the exclusively NMS fanbase by doing an emoji that only leads to a LNF trailer!

[grizzled apex]

that clock tweet was odd, was wondering if that was a hint for an LNF Trailer 2

[safe quarry]

chances of that being the case: 0.00000000000001%

I think that was just poor sean making a joke that youtubers desperate to make content latched onto and blew out of proporitions 🤣

They kept saying its some hint that Ai is coming to NMS, but imagine the server load if every person playing NMS was inadvertently making call outs to an Ai to generate content. Forget about the poor offline players who miss out.

[grizzled apex]

oh god that was taken horrendously out of context... I got the joke and it was a pain to see all those low quality clickbait videos drop

[safe quarry]

They said the little blue dot was a teeny world and a hint to LNF. I am pretty sure that's some kind of cursor hehe

Yes I was surprised by Captain Steve tho! I thought usually he rises above that.

But he probably farmed that the most!

[grizzled apex]

the closest thing to an LNF hint might've been the 5 pixels of a video icon that image had, but yea that was pretty far fetched anyway

[grizzled apex]

you'd be surprised...

[safe quarry]

I thought Cynical was the naughty one. Tho he seems to have tried to wind it down a bit before people stopped clicking on his videos altogether!

[grizzled apex]

"Content" Creators in most communities do a very poor job of covering the basics lately, but since the NMS community is relatively smaller anyway, it seems to get dominated by people creating farmable content.

[safe quarry]

I suppose that's true.

[grizzled apex]

I like GhostLight and Kanaju though, their videos are generally well researched and clearly take a while to make! Lots of production value there.

I've been meaning to go through and compile the game's lore for a while, and their videos are usually a good reference when im misremembering a reference

[safe quarry]

I haven't seen much of ghostlight tho i might have run into a few of his. Kanaju's generally yes are high quality and only really there when there's actually something to talk about.

I think the difference is those two are doing it as a hobby on the side rather than trying to make a business out of it where you're beholden to make videos daily to try and keep engagement up.

I see captain steve has tried to branch out to try and cover the quiet times, but i think his audience is so intrinsically tied to NMS.

[grizzled apex]

Yea I believe YT's algorithm really makes it hard for passion project channels to shine that way, and rewards the content farms we see popping up quite often, which is kinda sad when you see a well put together video get less attention than something rushed out for clicks

[safe quarry]

oh yes definitely.

[grizzled apex]

I've been getting back into the Devil May Cry community recently, and they've got this same problem of "slop" creators rehashing ideas from older passion channels in a worse way, and ending up with a lot more attention

[safe quarry]

I would love if we had a Vaati Vidya for NMS :p

[safe quarry]

I bet that's even harder because there's no new content at all. At least NMS is regular enough that you can reasonably do new content quasi regularly.

[grizzled apex]

yep, but i guess it shows that the content farm issue is pretty widespread across fandoms.

I think the convo got a llil off topic for the spoilers channel though 😅

[safe quarry]

Yes true!

Well i think i am just living off a lot of copium for the fact none of the stars have aligned for an update tomorrow.

[glass flare]

I would be happy with an update that wasn't grandiose, but just added some new content. Like adding some new rooms to the space station, or adding a new procedural ship class based on the Runner design, stuff like that

[runic mesa]

I've happy with an update that did nothing but fix all the bugs in the Catalogue. 😛

[uncut harness]

POI & Fauna overhaul and the game would be complete for me. There could be even more stuff sure, but these are the core parts of the game which I feel are still lacking. Especially POI's are ancient at this point. I really hope that Worlds Pt.3 is a thing and that it adresses either fauna or POIs

[glass flare]

yeah I was hoping the Relics update would replace the ruins POIs with procedurally generated architectural ruins, something to make them cool explorable locations rather than just a marker to dig up some things

[twilit drift]

cracks open soda can

Artemis is the Atlas

[heady wyvern]

We are all Atlas my brother, Amen.

[safe quarry]

i was hoping for this too

[icy citrus]

Would love to see some new docking areas @safe quarry

Made for the new ship type

[safe quarry]

I wish they would but that's where adding a corvette might open a whole can of worms!

[icy citrus]

Maybe even something neat on our freighters for launching it

[safe quarry]

its less about making the corvette work and more about how you work around a new giant ship type!

[icy citrus]

Yeah for sure

[safe quarry]

it has a hangar so i guess for some thing you would just write off that it can't

like no landing at space stations

still have to get in your personal ship and fly in those yourself

[icy citrus]

Yep, park outside in space?

Hope so

[safe quarry]

landing might be hard. Could have it hover above the planet by a few u and have a teleporter to get you down the rest of the way

because we struggle to find a suitable landing spot for our regular sized ships!

[icy citrus]

Titanfall the rest of the way, low orbit hovering

[safe quarry]

Just like this!

And yes, being able to just get up from your seat at any point, even in the middle of space to just 'park it' would be nice

and then that can of worms means they would have to then add zero-G EVA mechanics

floating in space rather than falling in space.

[icy citrus]

The dream

[safe quarry]

I would love it. But this is what i mean by the corvette is actually the easy part

all the ramifications around it existing are the hard part.

[icy citrus]

Knowing them it will start with just the ship and then other things will coalesce in the future

[safe quarry]

I wouldn't mind that if it means we get the corvette when its done and not when all the other parts are done too

[icy citrus]

Same

[safe quarry]

I could be wrong but i feel this is the first time in a while where we're at the end of something and have no news of when an update might be coming? I know it used to be the way but i feel at least for the last year we've always had something ongoing?

[icy citrus]

Expeditions and Worlds have filled the days for sure

This is pretty typical each year though, May seems like a break time

June is my prediction for the next whatever it is

[safe quarry]

I suppose that's true.

[ebon spoke]

actually I wonder how big the corvette is... 🤔

feel like most people are guessing smaller than a frigate, but the frigates have open air landing pads because they don't really have space for hangars

[icy citrus]

They would with a different design though

I'm think the "hangar" would be more like a loading bay, on the smaller side

[ebon spoke]

The exterior texture is the same as the frigate one, iirc. Doesn't give much idea of scale but does for level of detail

[icy citrus]

Hopefully it works out how they want, and we get it on the soon side - very curious about it

[gloomy isle]

I'd imagine the next update will be June maybe, and will probably be Corvettes

[native carbon]

this month

trust

emoji dropping this week trust me trust

[runic mortar]

What's Corvettes ?

Wait are there sneak peeks for the next update ?

[safe quarry]

nuh! just datamines of things that may come to the game proper.

And corvettes is one that's been datamined.

[runic mortar]

ooooooh

where can i see them 👀 :)

[safe quarry]

larger ship type with some kind of interior we can build.

nothing to see yet sadly!

[runic mortar]

WHAT

like a semi freighter ship ?

[safe quarry]

Just some bits datamined like building parts being tied to a flyable ship

textures for it

kind of, smaller (maybe)

and icons for a hangar icon for it, so we know that much about them

oh and because the files have a slot for 'corvette base' and 'friends corvette base'

likely we can visit each others

[runic mortar]

I love this game

[safe quarry]

and (personally i am hoping) we can have players in them as we fly them

well. this is all not confirmed!

its only in the files in pieces. plenty of things have been in the files that never came to fruition!

[runic mortar]

Do you know how often these things do end up getting in the game ?

[safe quarry]

nuh! altho the fact they keep adding more parts makes me think its more likely to come in some fashion than not

I could be wrong but i think someone said there's even model files that we cant access at the moment because of the tools being out of date

But i'm no dataminer so i am only relaying what i've read second hand

[runic mortar]

why do they leave all this stuff in the files ._.

[runic mortar]

but it sounds like you know a lot anyway so thanks a lot for telling me

[safe quarry]

game development is a complex thing i guess

its like the fact dataminers found the new space station models in the game a year before we got them proper

and then hello games promptly patched them out so we couldn't be too nosey!

[quaint mason]

prob accidentally left in there when pushing new builds, maybe its difficult to manage different branches and keep stuff out of certain ones, like stuff from dev branch, especially for experimental branch id guess. if ya wanna be more speculative tho it could be intentional, to generate hype.

[safe quarry]

Definitely could be either of those if not both!

[runic mortar]

true and its not like these are huge leaks

[safe quarry]

They have multiple smaller teams working on each update, so there's probably all sorts of crossover

[runic mortar]

wait really ?

[safe quarry]

Yes Sean mentioned how they work in an interview

they are divided between NMS and LNF

but also they have a team with a few months to work on an update, some with longer etc.

he was talking how sometimes the team with the most time might get carried away with it and the scope goes beyond what they originally planned

But yes its not one team just pumping out an update every 6-8 weeks. its kind of a domino of different teams and each one finishes one then i guess starts on their next one which may be 3-4 content drops away.

[runic mortar]

That's actually really smart

[quaint mason]

ye

[safe quarry]

mhm! And i imagine its more fluid with that since i think sometimes they jump between the two projects

[native carbon]

i have a feeling next update will drop in a week

[safe quarry]

or certain things from LNF might be brought into NMS

[native carbon]

and it will be smoll tiny one

[runic mortar]

why ?

[native carbon]

we got 2 content updates in a row

[runic mortar]

like worlds update ?

[native carbon]

yes

[safe quarry]

exactly yes ❤️

like the water effects

[runic mortar]

Wait the twitter account posted a clock emoji ? Doesnt that mean we are getting the update soon ?

[safe quarry]

I think that was just a joke post from sean that got out of hand

it wasn't an emoji this time. he was commenting on his clock app updating

and joking that 'i hope they add AI' because everything seems obsessed with adding AI these days.

[runic mortar]

sad 😔

[safe quarry]

so a clock app getting AI is kind of ridiculous.

But i think some youtubers eager for content to talk about ran with it because things are a bit quiet on the NMS front at the moment.

[native carbon]

cannot wait for the calculator ChatGPT update ❤️

[runic mortar]

I hope "desktop" and "task manager" get AIs too 🙏🏼

[safe quarry]

Don't you all give microsoft ideas!

[runic mortar]

lol

[safe quarry]

The way AI is going at the moment, the next logical step is it will play our games for us so that we can spend more time cleaning dishes.

[native carbon]

AI update for Solitaire when

[runic mortar]

have they ever dropped small tiny udpates tho

[safe quarry]

ones like the exomech and living ship ones are arguably 'small'

[native carbon]

the cursed, fractals

[safe quarry]

Yes those were basically expeditions.

[native carbon]

omega also kind of? but it did rework expeditions so idk

oh yeah adrift

was also smoll

[runic mortar]

Oh yeah those just changed stuff

[safe quarry]

I don't know if we will get the emoji today but i think we will get it soon-ish

I think if the update is coming out june, they'd have worked out some expedition or small drop to tide us over.

[native carbon]

i think there are 3 types of updates

small ones - like adrift, the cursed
medium sized - aquarius, relics, omega
biiiig - WP1, WP2, orbital, echoes

[runic mortar]

I hope they add some hardcore planets that you cant stay on for more then like two minutes lol

[safe quarry]

They have a stone guardian model for our exomech that we can't currently use that they could have tidied up and dropped to keep us busy for this period

[quaint mason]

i wish that was gas giants

[runic mortar]

i havent played since the orbital update idk what they are like

[native carbon]

extreme weather deep ocean planets

when u are like 1000u deep

its super hard to survive down here

[safe quarry]

So i think the fact we have nothing means something is coming this month at some point. less than 6 weeks away anyway

[runic mortar]

Cuz like i want the game to change a lot untill I start my next character

[quaint mason]

its just a extreme weather scorched planet but no storms (in terms of threat)

[runic mortar]

bruh

[quaint mason]

there are lots of tornadoes too but um yea

not that dangerous

[safe quarry]

well since you are in the spoiler part its safe to say: a lot of the new stuff you need to finish the main storyline to see

so it wont feel crazy different until then

[native carbon]

my theory is that we are getting an emoji this weekend and the update on wednesday. its gonna be a small one probably

[quaint mason]

more dangerous than gas giants

[runic mortar]

ngl the world update is alredy so big that I think after next update ill start my new character

[safe quarry]

Yes. Things like gas giants and ocean planets you won't see until you've finished the story though

[runic mortar]

those exist ?

[native carbon]

yes

WP2

[runic mortar]

ooooooooh

[safe quarry]

purple systems have the old terrain back too

well close to it, but better.

[runic mortar]

what's the old terrain

[native carbon]

old terrain > new one

[safe quarry]

Well before next the terrain on planets was super interesting

[runic mortar]

why did they change it then-

[native carbon]

there was a reason why but i dont know it

[safe quarry]

then i'm guessing multiplayer limitations they neutered the terrain generation too

so its all hills and mountains

and because they didn't want to ruin peoples bases

rather than bring the old terrain back to current planets

they added a whole new class of solar system, purple ones,

which exclusively have the new (old?) terrain

[native carbon]

TBH the "pre WP2" generation isnt bad but the one in the purple systems is wayy better

[safe quarry]

Yes that's true. Its not bad it just is a bit samey after a while.

[native carbon]

@safe quarry also i dont think they are reusing old terrain but like they took inspiration from it

[safe quarry]

Yes you are right

i think its a whole new system, but its similar to the old approach in being a bit more alien and wild

but its easier just to say its the 'old terrain' come back hehe.

since it recaptures more of that old feel

[runic mortar]

How much playtime do yall have ?

[safe quarry]

not as much as i should!

[quaint mason]

maybe this convo should be continued in the main chat as it’s not about channel focus anymore

[safe quarry]

considering i have been on it since day 1

[native carbon]

😭

[safe quarry]

Talking about the purple systems is still spoiler, but yes time played is a main chat discussion

[runic mortar]

From your knowlege it feels like you made the concept, the game, the servers, the story and the wiki lol

[runic mortar]

OH

[safe quarry]

nu uh! I don't know anything. I don't have an atlass pass v4 from getting involved in the ARG!

[runic mortar]

wat

[native carbon]

wait... @safe quarry didnt u had the atlas emissary role?

[safe quarry]

no? what's that?

[native carbon]

ah nvm

[safe quarry]

I mostly lurked this discord until a few months ago, hehe.

[quaint mason]

it’s meant to only be story spoilers btw

[native carbon]

i mostly use this channel to discuss datamined stuff

[safe quarry]

oh. is the existence of the purple systems not story related tho?

Since we 'bring them back' as part of the story?

[native carbon]

u can talk about purple systems but not about the lore behind em

[quaint mason]

it is but their mechanics is not rly

[safe quarry]

oki, good to know!

[quaint mason]

i think the rule means it has to be what happens during one of the story missions

[runic mortar]

mb

[safe quarry]

altho singular gleam brought our discussion about the corvettes into spoiler from the future channel

i'm always unsure where hypotheticals ends and spoilers begin!

[quaint mason]

ye that’s data mined stuff

this channel is for story spoilers and unreleased content

[safe quarry]

oki dokes

[icy citrus]

The lore on how and why of purple systems would be considered spoilers

But not their existence

[ebon spoke]

A general rule of thumb is if something is in the patch notes it isn't a spoiler

The Worlds Part II notes show and explain gas giants, ocean worlds, titan planets etc and even mention that there is story content you need to do to get to them

but the content of those story missions is obviously a spoiler, at least for the forseeable future

[safe quarry]

This is helpful!

[twilit drift]

Purple systems I assume y’all mean dissonant ?

Nvm I see now

Is that also why the purpleium metal? To make it worthwhile to visit those systems?

[heady wyvern]

Yes, but also there's two very unique planet types that only occur in those systems.

[twilit drift]

Coolio

[arctic bough]

[river surge]

Update

[twilit drift]

Question for yall

During the Artemis quest line. Apollo has you raid a secret korvax facility. To get some data or whatever. But there was an interesting bit of extra choice that happened. I’m paraphrasing for this next part.

Your exosuit detects a small creature in the vent. Your scanner tells you the small hairy creature is some sort of pet and is deathly ill. You are given three options

1. Feed the creature (10 carbon) in which case the pet gets sick and throws it up but keeps trying to eat and you leave it do its fate.

2. Euthanize the creature.

3. Or do nothing.

What did y’all pick? And why did you pick it?

[lapis jewel]

It dies when you try to feed it too

[twilit drift]

Well yes the exact wording I believe was “you leave it to its fate” as in it will die

[lapis jewel]

It depends on my mood when I get to it in a save

I’ve done all options

None of them are good or bad

[twilit drift]

Personally I don’t think I’ve done the third option of doing nothing.

Although that small side bit of dialogue feels like it’s teeing up the fate of Artemis

[lapis jewel]

Yep. Do you end it or prolong suffering to give hope? That’s why this game is a sandbox with an existential crisis

[twilit drift]

Creature. Euthanize if I’m in a hurry so there’s less dialogue boxes to skip. Morally try to feed the creature. And try to save Artemis. And lie to them about their existence.

[glass flare]

I keep checking discord for a Sean emoji, but I guess we're in radio silence for a while

[twilit drift]

Well this isn’t the official discord so..

[glass flare]

sure but seeing no-mans-hype popping up in the channel list is the only way for me to find out if something happened, since I don't use Twitter anymore

[native carbon]

it can drop anyday now

[celest rampart]

I’m curious

When did the purple systems get added?

I haven’t played in a couple years and don’t recall having the side mission to unlock them when I last played - but I also know it’s likely I just missed it before

[icy citrus]

Bit over 3 months ago, end of January

[celest rampart]

Ahhh word okay, ty!!

[twilit drift]

There’s a mission for them?

[celest rampart]

Yeah

I assume if you’re playing on creative or whatever it just gives you access

But on normal survival yeah, there’s a whole process to getting the purple systems

[plain sluice]

You have to do the mission to unlock them, though I believe the last 2 expeditions have granted access to them too immediately, and you keep that access if they convert to a normal mode save, skipping the mission

You have to complete the mission for access on all difficulties outside of that though, including creative

[twilit drift]

sharkie feels like a fool now. He completed the expedition. Then deleted his saves before creating a new save from scratch. Sharkie didn’t get rewards or access

[plain sluice]

You get the major rewards from all previously completed expeditions for all your saves on your account, claimable from the quicksilver synthesis companion, just that purple system access isn't one of those, it has to be a save that began as an expedition save

[twilit drift]

Mmmmm

I claimed the rewards. But don’t have the living stone armor. Although maybe I have to claim them again from googly eyes man

[plain sluice]

You do, just like the other things, as long as you claimed them in the expedition at least

[solar crystal]

how many paths are there to end the story? i did the atlas path only so far

[quaint mason]

the atlas path is its own "story". the main one is the artemis path, which technically ends at new beginnings, but there are secondary missions for the ||autophage|| that kind of continue off the artemis path. tbh, the artemis path is not really a path so to speak, in terms of a choice over something else. but its just commonly called that i guess.

[gray compass]

i wonder if we get more lore about the void mother in the future

[fading orbit]

Gof2 reference???

[glass flare]

yeah I'm interested to see where they take the story now, and how that plays out with new features/content

[grizzled apex]

I wonder if they're gonna take a break b/w expeditions rn since the next one's 19. The Cursed, Exped 16, being pretty lore heavy makes me wonder if they've saved 19 to be something akin to Singularity 2.0, or another point in the void mother arc.

There's no expedition lined up yet, so the next content update might be content only so far (unless its like Titan and Liquidators where those expeds came a while after the original update. Weirdly silent on Sean's end too.

[analog breach]

Yeah. No update untill all qs items unlock imo.

[grizzled apex]

Tier 100 just ended. Tier 101 has a rollover end date of June 4th server side.

Idt QS items are a very reliable indicator of an update drop anymore. They've been pushing the peeping fauna banner back by several tiers for the last few updates just to shove in update specific QS items a fair bit.

Kinda like the banner is a backup for in case we somehow manage to get to the last tier before HG are ready

[gloomy isle]

I'm lowkey thinking that we'll get a June summer update

Something along the lines of endurance size wise

With corvettes and some other bits and bobs

[ebon spoke]

small update at the start of June would have time for a short expedition before a big August update

[runic mesa]

Switch 2 releases that week. Just sayin'

And if they are doing a minor update for Switch 2, we won't be seeing that emoji until next weekish.

[native carbon]

remember the times when we were talking about PS5 pro update

that was sooo long ago

like 5 years? /jk

[grizzled apex]

Oh yea, that might be a good time to drum up interest. Id expect HG to launch on Switch 2 eventually, but im not sure if we'll see a launch title announcement anytime soon.

[glass flare]

yeah I heard dev kits were very limited, I'm not sure smaller studios would get one right away

[native carbon]

I doubt we are getting switch 2 version exactly on the release of switch 2

[ebon spoke]

I haven't been following Switch 2 stuff but can it play Switch 1 games?

If it can then we'll probably have to wait a little for the Switch 2 version. I'm sure we'll get one though, probably with settlements and maybe even multiplayer

[icy citrus]

Some of them, for a fee

[plain sluice]

I believe you can play switch 1 games on s2 for free, the fee is only for enhanced first-party games, of which you can most likely play without that enhancement for free

And whatever third-party games choose to put a price on enhancement too probably

[icy citrus]

Yep, you are right - I was thinking of the upgrading

[native carbon]

It will get both, trust me

Its slighly stronger then ps4 pro

Which has both of the features afaik

[humble kayak]

So I've heard that datamined stuff is talked about here, ever now and again

does anyone know if there's like a "primary source" for this stuff, like a subreddit or twitter acc or something a person could follow?

As it's pretty hard to find anything about datamines on youtube and the NMS subreddit

[fervent fern]

The best primary source I've found is this very channel 😆

We have people here that are familiar with the game files, how to access them, how to check for clues etc.

[humble kayak]

Mk, thank you

I read about the possibility of Corvettes coming to the game and assumed there might be more, thought i'd check around

I'll just keep my eyes open for news here

[fervent fern]

Do a quick search on it in this very channel, you'll find what people have gathered so far (not much I reckon, few mentions on game files)

[humble kayak]

yeah there's some stuff here

looking rn

nothing groundbreaking but it's still helpful

thank you!

[river surge]

Lol

[amber mauve]

So... what did y'all choose for Artemis' fate?

[winter plover]

A single solar system is not a suitable enclosure for a traveller soul. But then they took that simulation and spun it back out into the galaxy so whoops I guess

[river surge]

The machine system

At the Anomaly

[humble kayak]

I'm pretty sure I let Artemis die

I don't remember exactly but I think my reasoning was that Artemis would've eventually figured out what was going on and it'd be its own kind of hell

[topaz depot]

Do you get the title “the last” if you decide not to reset the simulation?

Or is it only if you reset it do you get the title

[gray compass]

||you need to reset the simulation (unless the wiki is inaccurate)||

[topaz depot]

Aight, ty. Just wanna make sure I get the title

[amber mauve]

Hostile, Tranquil, Ancestral, or Improved? Which should I go for? Or is there no significant difference?

[icy citrus]

They type determines biome spawn chances for yellow systems. Hostile means more harsh elements like weather and sentinels. Tranquil is more lush. Ancestral will be more dead, Improved will be normal, like Euclid

[glass flare]

they need to add a Gleam type

[gloomy isle]

Just a weird thought- with purple systems, galaxy type kinda matters even less

For a lot of people they're kinda the main star type now

[fading orbit]

Personal exocraft summoner was a peak addition

Not technically a spoiler but later game technology

[plain sluice]

One random Worlds Part 2 thing that I love is how for purple systems it feels like there's much less harsh distance for on purple system planets, like you can actually see your freighter during the day

[ebon spoke]

If you aren't actually spending time in yellow systems then all of the galaxy types are the same aside from harsh. I hope that some day HG does another pass on the galaxy types to make them a bit more different because they're a pretty half baked feature tbh

[fervent fern]

I don't see that changing to be honest... seems impossible without rewriting some of the game's core code

[ebon spoke]

Realistically yeah, would significantly regenerate entire galaxies which I don't think is something they'd want to do

Something like having abandoned galaxies function like abandoned mode could be cool, those are the least well implemented and I don't think many players actually go to them

[uncut harness]

I guess Ancestral is like Abandoned mode lite?

[plain sluice]

Sadly, empty galaxies just have much more dead and weird planets in their yellow systems

Their systems have the same chances of habitation as normal

[granite nimbus]

Idk what to choose

For artemis

[icy citrus]

I let them go

[analog breach]

Imo puting in simulation has more impact and "layers"

[amber mauve]

Wait shit our SUIT is Telamon???

[sour fossil]

not the suit per se, but the suit's AI / entity responsible for all the audio messages like warnings

[amber mauve]

...Okay wow that final scene of the purple stars getting restored.

That was. So damn atmospheric

[glass flare]

speaking of atmospheric, wait until you start exploring those purple stars

[gray compass]

i wonder if we ever see the void mother or if she is just a entity that controls things from the shadows

[marsh grail]

Kinda baffled they seemed to think it was an either-or decision to shove the Artemis copy in the simulation or kill him. Can't you just pop him in and ask him what he wants?

Like, I've talked to this guy like 5 times over a super sketchy connection. I dunno why I'm the most qualified to make end of life decisions for him.

[icy citrus]

You are the one that took part of his long dead soul

Go on, choose

Stay dead, or be in a tiny system forever knowing you are really dead

[marsh grail]

Like, it's as if you found someone who's in a coma and they are asking you whether they should pull the plug or not when they have the ability to wake him up and just ask him

[icy citrus]

No, it's like you scavenged a piece of them

[marsh grail]

Hey friend, as far as we know your existence up till now was in the meat world, but we found a copy of you in a computer somewhere. We don't know what you want us to do with it. Could you let us know?

[icy citrus]

You've been talking to dead people the whole time

Now you steal their mind and have moral issues?

[marsh grail]

But he isn't dead. This is a copy of him. Is he? He's a completely different person. The original Artemis is dead. I'm not talking to him

[icy citrus]

Not a copy, a stolen piece of the program that isn't even complete

For me, living in a tiny system forever, knowing there is more doesn't sound appealing

I let them go

They are just going to be in the World of Glass with every other removed program

Probably save them in a couple years

[analog breach]

What is dead and what is not , thats up to u to decide. Game blurs the line between them

[marsh grail]

But, like, again. We are told he's experiencing the world in some way even in the "soul cage" so this iteration is demonstrably not dead. We have the means to simulate a world for him to ask him what he wants done. Be it exist in the simulation, oblivion via deletion, or perpetual coma via just stopping the simulation. Leaving this up to him rather than some smuck who he's said a hundred words to seems the objectively correct decision

[icy citrus]

Terrible for gameplay though. We know you went through all this but you have no option here just do whatever they say

[gloomy isle]

It would be, but that's not a choice we're given

If they're kept alive, they're there forever

If we let them die, they're dead

[icy citrus]

They can always opt out themselves if they want to

Easy to kill yourself in NMS

[gloomy isle]

Is that something we know artemis can do in there? Or would they just re iterate

[icy citrus]

Tell them to put it on perma

[molten ridge]

My new meds are going ca-razy and I've been taking notes for an essay I want to do someday about the player-script-protagonist triangle. And...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431621737327755264/1373384295720419429/image.png?ex=682a374c&is=6828e5cc&hm=4c14f89897f7fe9c320460efc5e9ac40cf84f15216657af3040ae6324fcd672e&

Gonna ask folks I know for their reasoning behind each choice, because... Yeah.

If anyone has particular feelings about their choice, I'd be cool to hear about it

[glass flare]

I "saved" Artemis, but the only problem I've ever had with the whole situation is that the game basically takes away Artemis's agency. They are not given the truth of the situation or a choice in how to live their life

[molten ridge]

I guess another question that trips folks up: What if you were Artemis and someone was making the decision for you

[glass flare]

It becomes a philosophical exercise instead of a narrative. Which I found disappointing because it's one of the few characters in the game that is given any kind of character development

[molten ridge]

Also, do you tell Apollo or not. I know in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, but I'm curious about what people choose based on their own experiences

100% agree, but given the themes of the game, it feels appropriate that I'm doing a weird thought experiment

I saved Artemis because of my own personal guilt. I can't let go. But oh boy did I feel extra guilt when they got mad at me for restricting them. My brother let him die first chance he got.

[glass flare]

For me, my decision just came down to "do the least harm"

[molten ridge]

He didn't let Artemis go through any malicious intent. He's been there. We had a brain tumour scare, and it was a coin flip. After that experience, he just... Knew that it's sometimes best to let go.

But me on the other side of that damn coin getting a call about him being in the hospital and punching a nurse in the face? I wanted him to live.

That's the kind of association I'm talking about. I know it's weird and stupid

Just curious if that resounds with anyone. I'll open DMs if anyone has anything to share while I'm at work

[ebon spoke]

I would consider the choices around Atemis to be the most important moment in the story, and probably by extension the broader narrative of the game. The whole idea of the game I think is an exploration of simulation theory. Choosing to put Artemis in the simulation on the Space Anomaly at the time might feel like you are condemning them to a false reality, but ultimately the simulation you put them in isn't really any less 'real' than the universe you and them have been in the entire time.

I think the broader idea, philosophically, is that it doesn't matter if the world around you is code, your experiences are real and are what's really important.

The choice as to whether or not you tell Artemis is the conclusion to that idea - are you better off for knowing?

[opal bolt]

Idk if I made a wrong choice by speeding through the main quest. Don't spoil the whole thing but does the universe actually end in 16 minutes? Assuming that would just end my game or something, not like it would actually shut down a server lol

[analog breach]

16 min in atlas time. For us time flows diffrent.

[gray compass]

and as you progress further you uncover more lore about the game

[opal bolt]

Noted, I'll keep heading towards the galactic core

[molten ridge]

See this is what I'm talking about. I never even once thought the dilemma was related to one's feelings on simulation theory (despite the game screaming it at us, literally.) so that kind of input is awesome. I was hung up more on the morality part

[humble kayak]

I never considered the relation to simulation theory either, actually, but that sentiment of "What reality is or is not is irrelevant, you have choices ahead of you and it still matters how you handle them" both recontextualizes the Artemis dilemma (Which I considered more morally-centered like alcaste did) and also recontextualizes the setting of the game itself

I like No Man's Sky, that's evident by me being on this server lol, but I have always struggled with the plot element of "Reality is a simulation - none of what you see, be it NPCs living fake lives, distant stars in the cosmos, or the ruins of fallen civilizations on ancient worlds are actually real" because it always seemed to me like it cheapens the detail of the actual universe

If all the planets we painstakingly survey, build bases on and ultimately call our own are nothing but in-universe lines of code, what's the point?

But now I see that, sure, both us the Players and our characters are aware (to differing degrees) that the universe is a simulation, but animals still live and breathe, travellers still wander the stars - so from our characters perspective, you might as well treat the simulation as if it IS reality. It matters precisely because you have no other choice but to confront it.

TL;DR: While the simulation theory-based plot seems cheap at first it serves as an excellent commentary on understanding perspective and what one would consider real for false, and what the ramifications of that would even be. Everyone has a different take on reality because there isn't an objective reality

also it's occurring to me that this whole spiel sounds like AI lmao I promise it isn't

[molten ridge]

Oh don't worry, it's the kind of weird rambling I'd do

The situation also gets sticky when we realize that there's a difference between Travellers (NPC) and Travllers (Players). Artemis seems like something in between

Artemis allegedly had the same capabilities as us, which included connecting with other players outside the simulation. Saving him cuts him off from that

[jaunty badger]

Are gas giants in the game yet?

Thank you

[gray compass]

search any purple system with gas giant label

instead of dissonant

[humble kayak]

lol so in-universe we're just fucking with some other player's perma-death save lmao

it's both funny and trippy to think about the narrative "layers" of the game

Us, the players, exist in some capacity iirc, then our characters are also experiencing the simulation from the "first person", whilst also being aware of the simulation's existence but presumably not our's

[molten ridge]

That's the delta I'm trying to write about, the connection between the player - protagonist - story

[granite nimbus]

So what happens if i cjoose to reset atlas

Do i lose everything and restart?

Cause i wanna complete the story

But i kinda want to keep everything i have

[plain sluice]

you don't lose everything, you only ||have all of your exosuit, starship and multi-tool tech damaged, and are sent to a galaxy type of your choice.
You can still teleport back to Euclid and all of your progress, bases etc remains||
You are also free to refuse to reset the simulation and "lose" nothing, still completing the story in the process

[granite nimbus]

So if i want to keep "everything" i just dont reset the galaxy

Like what would be the benefot of resetting the galaxy?

[plain sluice]

It lets you select a galaxy type to "reshape the galaxy into", which just sends you to the closest galaxy of that type

Euclid is a normal one with normal probabilities, which is also what the teal galaxy is too
The green one is a lush galaxy, with twice as many lush, tropical worlds in it's yellow star systems
The red one is a harsh galaxy, with more extreme storm worlds
And the blue one is an empty galaxy, just having more dead (moon-like) and weird worlds in it's yellow stars

[granite nimbus]

So i choose the green galaxy ima go there with all my stuff broken

But i can still teleport to my bases after i fix everything?

[fervent fern]

You could teleport even with your stuff broken if you had access to a teleporter lol.
It's not a big deal, really. You can fix essential tech still on planet, then take-off to the system's space station and fix the rest there.

If you have more than one multi-tool, I'd just advise to pick the worst one to serve as a sacrificial multi-tool; so after the reset you retain mining / scanning / combat capabilities

[granite nimbus]

I have like one other apart from the starting one

[fervent fern]

Pick one to get "broken" (you can always fix the tech later) and keep the most useful / advanced one as a secondary, so you can use it after all is done.

[granite nimbus]

Hpw do i switch multi tools

[fervent fern]

There's a quick menu ("x" on PC, not sure on controllers) > icon
There you'll have an option to change multitools.

[granite nimbus]

Oh wait nvm i dont have 2

I forgot i traded mines in

[fervent fern]

Oh, ok. You could quickly grab one in any space station if possible. Or... go with one. Essential tech usually uses easy-to-gather resources to get fixed, some of which you may very well already have.

[granite nimbus]

Ok

[granite nimbus]

Where do i leqrn heart of the sun

Cause i dont see it

In the synthesis lab

[heady wyvern]

Via the Atlas Path. The tooltip is misleading, I know.

[granite nimbus]

Ok

[molten ridge]

"The exosuit is silent, of course. It keeps itself zipped"

that got me good

[delicate mesa]

I just completed a run for the permadeath achievement last night and totally forgot about this. To make matters worse ||I chose Calypso||. Luckily I always keep a stack of main resources, but I wasn't paying attention and that was almost the end! Got my heart rate up for sure 😆

[plain sluice]

Pffft, I core hopped to Calypso in Survival so I know how hellish it is

If you don't have an extra ship or suit tech to reinstall then you're basically cooked

[delicate mesa]

My survival is retiring in Eissentam, but life is too easy sometimes

Next time I'll remember to store modules too ... Back at the freighter safe now, but it's gonna be spendy and I didn't spend any time setting up resource farms

[gray compass]

i wonder how the lore between autophages and the korvax intertwines when the updates come and go

[river heath]

is there a way to get a specific good looking living ship?

[mortal laurel]

yes, if you find a location for a design you like online
see #nms-questions message

[river heath]

and where can i find designs??

[analog breach]

#nms-legacy-ships

[digital jetty]

ok guys!! this is for a presentation on nms lore

Atlas
Machine used to simulate universes for research
Original model refined until considered obsolete, abandoned
System fails, attempts to understand by putting the creator's brain in the simulation
Race of the traveller is "anomaly"
Every anomaly is the last traveller in their universe
First Spawn Gek
Bloodthirsty, very impulsive/aggressive. Will kill their own if seen as weak
Korvax
Most intellectual species, worshipped Aerons (sentinels), inorganic
Vy'keen
Nomads, scattered throughout universe, originated in Outer Edge, violent, perpetual conflict
Aeron (Sentinels)
Spread throughout the universe quickly, fought and killed Vy'keen leader, "police" of the universe

not done

is this accurate

[molten ridge]

Sorta links into something that I'm writing. In your opinion, are YOU the player character, or are you puppetting the player character (even though the dialogue says I when the player character monologues)

[ebon spoke]

Came across the old 4chan leak from back in 2021 and was pretty surprised rereading it

at the time, I remember people brushing it off because the update came out and 1/9 things was right, but revisiting it, it is shocking how most stuff ended up actually making it in since

• city/settlements - frontiers was the update that released a few months after this post, obviously that is the feature that the leak got right
• Space station owning/rebuilding - we didn't get this but we did get a total redesign of space stations with Orbital. Could just be that things changed over development or that the telephone game of the info leaking turned 'redesign' into 'rebuild'
• New enemy race - the Autophages literally 'emerged into our universe' and are built from Sentinel parts. They aren't enemies per se, but again that could be something that changed in development or was misunderstood.
• Base defenses - this is an idea we know HG has played with in the past. We obviously haven't gotten it, but they may have experimented more with the idea to go with the pirate raids from Outlaws.
• procgen improvements - This is a given because it seems like HG are ususally working on procgen in the background, obviously we did eventually get this and it was overall larger than Origins.
• Water physics - Pretty self explanatory.
• Proper waterfalls and rivers - We don't have these yet. Light No Fire appears to have rivers and in Worlds Part I we did get 'fake' waterfalls from the floating islands.
• Worlds from a past era - This is literally the lore for Worlds Part II, probably the most interesting inclusion on the list because it seems like HG were planning this for years
• Freighter improvements - Who knows if whatever this was in reference to got added. We do know the trade rocket was in development around this time and that the early version of it was for sending items to your freighter rather than selling them so it could have been that

[sour fossil]

Tbh all the leaks are so generic you can put anything in and eventually something will stick

Like I'd say "we're getting new food items and recipes" but didn't specify it was specifically about bone related dishes

And yes I realize all plans can change during development but compared to leaks from other games (like Overwatch with entire maps' layouts or whole characters with precise design and abilities leaked) this is just bland af

[ebon spoke]

I don't think 'worlds from a past era' or a new sentinel related race are particularily generic predictions

This was also a year after the Origins leak, that one had a number of things that weren't in the update but it did have volcanos and sandworms, which are pretty specific things that were in fact in that update

a lot of predictions though, including most things on this list, are just things the community have been pretty vocal about wanting. Obviously Hello Games is going to try to add the things people want to see so if you predict those, you'll more than likely be right eventually.

[solar scaffold]

So I'm doing the Starbirth mission. I have all the bits hatched and ready to go

I'm now at the point of he Hunter // The Reflection // The Hunter // The Spiral of Reality // The Star Over Water // The Ascending Orb // The Obscured Companion // The Hunter // The Lowly Insect // The Anomaly // The Sailor // The Ocean King // EUCLID EUCLID EUCLID

I've made sure I'm in the Euclid galaxy but it keeps saying I'm in the wrong galaxy

help?

[icy citrus]

Use a portal

[analog breach]

Use portal . Imput glyphs from that message.

[solar scaffold]

Ì tried that - then where do I go from there? Am deeply confused

[lofty fable]

yeah

lots of that made it

[analog breach]

Address is in the pins

[dense quartz]

I'm still hoping they'll eventually overhaul planetary outposts and also all way more variation for existing ship types.

[deep parrot]

I bet LNF has another Atlas system running it.

[river surge]

Lol

[glass flare]

I would think just for visual consistency they would want to update all the planetary buildings to match the Archives and new space stations. Surprised they haven't done it already

[gray nova]

so I'm on my first play through. i just got to the end of the Artemis path where it's giving me the final decision for what I'd like to do. what is it that happens? does it reset me over? do I no longer get to do the atlas path?

[versed rapids]

Any news for future updates?

[quaint mason]

there was stuff about “corvettes” found in files a while ago, but how soon or if they will even come to the game is unknown. If you are curious you can search this channel with the word for all the details. Other than that though we have no idea what is gonna happen atm

[winter plover]

If they never do anything else with the corvette stuff, I hope they at least polish up the work they've done and ship it because being able to stick decorations on our starships would be really cool

[glass flare]

yeah. I'd also like to remove the default decals that get placed by the procgen. and remove the "weathered" textures that some of them have

[deep parrot]

Since the Stone character appearance set looks like Autophage, think they're hinting at a "stone age" for the Autophage?

• the Pillar of Titan voltaic staff, which are a matter of cultural significance to the Autophage.

[glass flare]

maybe. or they're just reusing assets from Light No Fire

[humble kayak]

I've got a question, and idk whether this is a suitable question for the general nms chat or nme-spoilers (I'm erring on the side of caution though),

But I think it's established that NMS generally goes on sale before it gets an update

Is it known how long the time gap is between the sale going live and the update releasing?

[ebon spoke]

Depends when you count the sale as being live since the sales don't start on the same day across all platforms, but comparing Steam sales against update releases, the last six named updates have released two days after the game went on sale on Steam. (though not every Steam sale has led to an update.) Updates always release on Wednesdays, since it's a Monday, and the game just went on sale that could point to this Wednesday. However, for the past five named updates, Sean tweeted the emoji before the sale went live, and we don't have an emoji yet.

[humble kayak]

holy shit I didn't expect this thorough of an answer, thank you!

[ebon spoke]

The last time we got the emoji after the sale was Adrift, almost exactly one year ago. The sale went live Monday the 27th, the emoji was tweeted the next day and the update was live the day after that.

[humble kayak]

I've seen that updates can occasionally drop on Thursdays, too

Is there merit to the idea that we may still be on track

I think they'd gone off on Thursdays anyway

This might be another Mandela effect lol

[ebon spoke]

I was going off trailer release dates, those come out a few hours after the updates start rolling out and they're all Wednesdays as far back as I checked

[humble kayak]

huh, alr

[ebon spoke]

Updates are often delayed across platforms though and I'm pretty sure there's been at least one case of a platform needing to wait until Thursday

[humble kayak]

so you seem pretty versed in the deciphering of Sean Murray's BS

when do you think we'll get an update

Do you think it'll be this week or later on

[ebon spoke]

Maybe this week, possibly next week.

No emoji is weird, but they did the same thing last year which I think might of had something to do with Summer Game's Fest which is of course happening again this year

[humble kayak]

Interesting

I'll be though that, if it doesn't come this week

It might not come until the week after next

I know people that are expecting (at their own peril imo) Light No Fire news at the summer games fest

And if they're right, I don't think HG would push an update AND an update to their new game on the same week

[ebon spoke]

Yeah, there was a leak that supposedly listed a bunch of the presenters at SGF this year and it included HG

but if they are actually there I would expect it to be LNF rather than an NMS update reveal, they could do both like they did when they revealed LNF but it would be weird for the game to go on sale two weeks before the update drop

[humble kayak]

Good point

I guess we'll wait and see

[analog breach]

Emoji
Sale
Internal branch update
In that order.
Sales alone imo are no indicator of update coming. Steam, gog,psn etc. Can throw games on sales at will ( there is reqirement on steam i think that min gap between sales needs to be 30 days or something like that)
U can also add quicksilver shop also as indicator. When we unlock all stuff , HG needs to add new stuff and update the shop.

[sour fossil]

QS shop isn't really an indicator, HG makes a list of items in it in advance

Like the current race related banners were in game files since WP2

Or maybe even before that

[ebon spoke]

plenty of instances where the NMS steam sales are less than a month apart, though 'official' steam sales may not count towards the limit or something

We cant see internal branches anymore afaik

honestly after seeing that this is a full HG sale rather than an NMS one makes me more doubtful that wer're getting an update during it

[glass flare]

Or NMS update plus a stealth drop LNF release

[rancid flax]

gog sale ends in a day

[grizzled apex]

GOG sales are pretty inconsequential going off pattern. HG don't even bother mentioning them on the website.

[humble kayak]

going off pattern, sean usually sends emojis sometime in the afternoon, at least around 2pm to 6pm CST. He hasn't yet, though there's plenty of time

[humble kayak]

I'm inclined to agree that we might not see an update for a few weeks yet

with that knowledge and the aforementioned emoji thing

[grizzled apex]

no emoji yet, but the sale runs well past next week's wednesday, making the coming weekend a likely target for an emoji.

The bundle sale is weird though, It seems like it went on sale 2 days before Relics' release, during the '25 spring sale, 2 days before Worlds Part II, '24 winter sale, '24 autumn sale, and 2 days before The Cursed, recently. Don't really see a pattern since it skips out on some of the releases since The Cursed though. Maybe we'll see some sorta teaser on the 28th like they did for beyond? Or an LNF showcase in the SGF hype trailer?

[glass flare]

I'm afraid to make a prediction because I don't want to get myself hyped about a LNF showcase or a new big NMS update. I imagine it's more likely we get a LNF appearance, but it's been so long since we've had news about it, it's hard to know when they're going to be ready to talk about it again

[humble kayak]

i love the speculation the community does once the emojis are out

but it's kind of a pain to guess when they'll actually be sent lmao

i dont mind it that much though personally since it just sets HG apart from other studios

[heady wyvern]

They never say anything until they're like a week out from release, and I respect that. Never raising expectations too early.

I guess it comes from how the game was received on release.

[humble kayak]

oh ofc

i understand their stance completely

they're more than likely doing the same thing with LNF, too

Internet Historian said it best in his "The Goodening of No Man's Sky": "After the horrible launch of the game, Sean Murray and the team disappeared. Many thought they had taken the money and ran, but in reality they put their heads down and got to work."

HG only shows off content when they're positive it's up to their standards and it's already done enough to be pushed out ASAP

I personally think they're overdoing the silence game with LNF, but their methods for NMS for the most part works like clockwork

[glass flare]

"how it was received" is putting it mildly, people would stalk their office, make death threats, they had to get law enforcement involved

[humble kayak]

I wasn't a player at launch, hell i was freshly into middle school at the time, so I didn't see it for myself

but I've certainly heard how much of a shitshow it was

[glass flare]

unfortunately I think it's also why they tend to make the new content very easy for players to find, because they had people raging because they didn't see certain things and were claiming it wasn't in the game, when it was just rare

I say unfortunate because I tend to get burnt out on new creatures and flora because they're everywhere. like some of the new creatures in the Worlds updates, or the glowy mushrooms from a few updates back

[humble kayak]

yeah i think a side affect of that "hyper-accessibility" is partly why a lot of the features feel disconnected

like cooking, base building, fleet-building, the settlement system

they don't really have much overlap

[glass flare]

I think part of that is due their internal structure, from what I remember, half of the things they build are more like things the dev team finds cool, and half are requests from the community. So I suspect there's not necessarily a big roadmap for features and how they mix with each other

[humble kayak]

that makes sense

and that information, if you're right, is really cool to know because that means if LNF is ever lacking anything at launch, and the community wants it badly enough, we'll probably get it eventually

assuming it's within scope

[spring marten]

What is the difference between refusing the atlas and resetting the simulation

[prime inlet]

basically, the latter is a shortcut to another galaxy (but applies damage to installed tech+modules), but its possible to go to other galaxies later anyway if you reject

[spring marten]

Will I lose any progress depending on what option I pick?

[prime inlet]

if you reset, the worst it will happen is that you'll have to fix damaged tech and modules

on your active ship and MT, and exosuit

[spring marten]

Oh ok

[cloud jolt]

@spring marten remember that we can protect tech/modules from damage
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[spring marten]

So essentially choosing to reset the simulation will just damage my gear and will teleport me to a new galaxy whereas refusing will just put me back to wher I was before?

[prime inlet]

refusing will let you return to current galaxy yep, not applying any damage, and not locking you out of visiting other galaxies later on

[spring marten]

Wdym by not locking me out of visiting other galaxies?

[prime inlet]

there's other ways to go to other galaxies, this shortcut ("resetting simulation") isn't the only way

[spring marten]

Ahh ok I get it

Thank you!

[stiff minnow]

Yeah it's been like 2 years since we seen any video on X or any other place of the new game

[ebon spoke]

By this point I'm surprised we haven't gotten at least some new promotional screenshots of it.

[grizzled apex]

PS Sale Live Now

[glass flare]

i don't know how NMS can still be a 3.9 on any storefront at this point

[frigid valley]

3.9/5 seems reasonable

With 101k reviews, a lot maybe still negative from long ago

[glass flare]

for the amount of content and playability it offers, not in my eyes. but yeah I'm sure the review bombing from the early days keeps it down

[analog breach]

3.9 is fair imo. For average player who is not into exploration focused game

[fervent fern]

Shadow drop today. The no emoji update.

[analog breach]

Or emoji drop today and update drop next wed .

[fervent fern]

To be honest I'm with BomberBoi -- perhaps something in the weekend.

[grizzled apex]

The timing's super weird compared to our usual "trend" (which again, has never been explicitly set in stone), so its very hard to know what to expect this time around haha.

[hidden sierra]

I just got back into the game, so any and all new updates will just be icing on the cake that is this very close to perfect game

[ebon spoke]

Worth pointing out that the 'trends' start getting much less consistent once you go back more than a year

could turn out that there's no emoji because instead of a proper update we're just getting an announcement of a Switch 2 version, since the console is out next week

[hidden sierra]

Very true, and after Worlds Part II I don't think we really neeeed an update, I mean we're feasting while Starfield is starving, trying to ration Shattered Space (a 2 hour $30 DLC) for up to another year from now

[flint hollow]

i only need ship interiors or a special ship like that

and then for me the game is perfect

[hidden sierra]

That itch is scratched for me with the Freighters, I'm not sure what I would really want to do in the ship aside from maybe having an on board refiner for crafting on planets without building a refiner every time

[flint hollow]

for the refiner part is the portable refiner no?

as for freighters its the thing i can t control em

so that i can fly with friends in the same ship , is the reason i want ships with interios

[hidden sierra]

Valid, I guess just for the convenience of it plus hazard protection when the planets go nuts

And also valid, I don't have friends so I didn't think about that lol

[flint hollow]

its the thing that almost makes me wanna buy space citizen

but eh 50 bucks for a buggy mess is eh

[hidden sierra]

My Legion Go couldn't run it, but I'm with you there. I do think that SC is a bit more involved without the benefit of the stability of NMS. And with the choices they've been making and the sheer cost of most of their ships (and it basically being pay to win at that point) it just doesn't feel like it would be a balance experience especially coming into it brand new

[humble kayak]

Me personally, all I want are ship interiors and more furniture otherwise I genuinely can't think of anything I want in the game

HG has added so much already that I'm surprised they themselves still have ideas for new stuff

They must have one hell of a laundry list tucked away somewhere

[flint hollow]

pretty much

[river surge]

The game has unlimited possibilities you just got to want to add them and think of the ideas and wonder if they can create them

[mental socket]

Interesting. All HG games are on sale now in a HG bundle on steam until 9th of June. Conveniently ends right after SGF2025

[analog breach]

Switch 2 release is 5.06.

[mental socket]

Peak time to release NMS Switch 2 edition, tease a new update and then some LNF

one can hope

[analog breach]

I keep expectations on switch2 port/upgrade+ new expedition lvl.

[glass flare]

It wouldn't even really be a "port", as Switch 1 titles can play on the Switch 2. more of an upgrade thing. But I'm not sure if we will even see that day 1 unless HG got blessed with an early dev kit

[humble kayak]

Anyone hear anything new?

[fervent fern]

Hopefully Switch 2 will have all the nice things... settlements, multiplayer.

(I'm really out of the loop, not sure if we know the features on the new platform already lol)

[humble kayak]

Well given this is a spoiler channel

I wouldn't be surprised if we see corvettes this update

Maybe HG wraps the Switch 2 update in with the update containing corvettes and such

[glass flare]

Switch 2 is allegedly around PS4 performance level, so it could conceivably have all the features, but it will still be lacking in environment detail compared to the PS5

[fervent fern]

I see. Heck, amazes me that we can have a PS4 in our hands now. 😅
When I remember the things my PS3 was running...

Hoping for multiplayer at least. Would be nice to meet Switch players in the Anomaly

[glass flare]

I'm sure it will be a visual upgrade as well from the Switch 1

[soft token]

It's more like a PS5 Lite

thing looks gorgeous, well from the gameplay we've seen

comes out in a week btw

[uncut harness]

NMS already looks good on switch for awhile now comparable to Xbox and ps4
Let's give switch settlements atleast on switch two

[uncut harness]

What if the emoji is one of the emojis in the twitter user's name they retweeted recently (unlikely I know) 🌊 or ⚓

[plain sluice]

That's never ever been done before

Sean just likes to post random stuff when he feels like it because he is joyous and whimsical

[uncut harness]

Yeah, people were talking about other things that haven't been done before, and how patterns don't really hold up if you look over a long period of time. I've been watching these updates for years, it's exactly why I said it was unlikely.

I don't know if sean has every tweeted something as random as that barge post, but it was funny

[plain sluice]

The pattern of emojis has been the most consistent thing throughout the last like 4 years, there hasn't been any updates that deviate from it besides silly variations like making them into a cowboy

[uncut harness]

Yeah, usually it's an emoji post. I think some people have made connections where sometimes they hint at an update before they send out the emoji tweet though. But it's all speculation, I haven't ever done any real analysis since it's just for fun

[humble kayak]

Or a summoning circle in the case of the Worlds update

Worlds Pt 1 that is

[plain sluice]

Lots of cute variations but always a single emoji then a triple emoji, both retweeted

[humble kayak]

I wonder why he retweets them

is it just to drum up hype

[muted pagoda]

I just made at the end of the game witch galaxy y’all recommend to choose out of the four

[plain sluice]

Most people recommend the lush one, green, but the others are for if you desire different chances or troubles in the majority of stars

[rough zenith]

There’s an end game in NMS?

[lilac ledge]

Pretty sure the endgame is after finishing the 3 main quests and ||making the new galaxy|| there is quite a bit of endgame content like the autophage quest (highly recommend 👍 lots of customization and cool multi tool)

[glass flare]

I think it really depends on what you're looking for out of an "endgame" experience. In terms of evolving game systems, there's not much of that there. You're pretty much doing the same things at the 500th hour that you were at the 30th hour, just with upgraded gear. That's a big missing piece for me, but at least I enjoy exploring planets so I just do that.

[uncut harness]

should i rush to complete the artemis quest and get to use the glyph portals

like, its been on the backburner for a bit

[upper gale]

You don't need to complete the Artemis quest to use the glyph portals, iirc

The Traveler graves give you glyph symbols

[plain sluice]

You do need to complete it to access They Who Returned and In Stellar Multitudes, so it's a good idea to do so

[upper gale]

Fair call

[lilac ledge]

Any new data mines other than the corvette???

[ebon spoke]

Not much. There's functionality to allow some base building parts to attach to some ships, which allows for portable bases you can fly around. Its a feature that may or may not be related to corvettes, we have no idea what pieces will have the option enabled or what ship(s) they will be able to attach to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMVY9Xd64tg BomberBoi did a test with them where he enabled the option on all the base parts and allowed them to attach to an interceptor. This probably not how the feature will be used when/if it actually releases, but it's cool to see regardless

[analog breach]

Arches and walls on ship would be just silly. U know what base parts would look awesome? Decals.

[winter plover]

I played around with the features a little bit too. Pretty buggy and hard to use, I couldn't get it to work on all ship types. It also seemed like there was one "base" that any ship with the feature enabled would try to load. Could have been a bug, could point toward the feature being meant for building on a single special ship.

[ebon spoke]

I would guess it'll probably be the corvette, and the parts will be purpose made for it

rather than being existing parts

but thats all speculation ofc. They could be completely unrelated features

[winter plover]

Yeah I think it's fair to assume the new ship features and the new ship are related. I wonder what else they might be planning to add so that we'd even need a ship like that though.

[grizzled apex]

Bacon Emoji

they're quite literally cooking up something haha

and new bluesky profile!

[ebon spoke]

saw the post on bluesky first and genuinely could not tell what emoji that is lol

[grizzled apex]

retweeted by the LNF page on twitter too. If it ends up being an LNF announcement, thats a weird precedent to set 😅

if its NMS related, what're y'alls bets? No Man's Sky: Beacon?

[ebon spoke]

Beacons is my thought too

[tepid iris]

Bacon

I still think its No Man's Sky and not Light No Fire, as next week is the Switch 2 release

so an update going along the Switch 2 release makes sense for previous hardware releases

[ebon spoke]

bacon feels like a weird thing to be Light No Fire

[icy citrus]

Beacon

They won't use this emoji approach for LNF is my supposition

[ebon spoke]

"Beacons" or "Beacon" sounds like a smaller update like Prisms, Fractal, Waypoint, Endurance

[icy citrus]

It's hardly likely to be on the same update cycle

[grizzled apex]

Well a Beacon is a kind of waypoint, so i guess it fits thematically too

[grizzled apex]

If they do, I really hope they clearly differentiate the two by posting on the LNF account, and keeping LNF hype separate from NMS hype, even if a large portion of the playerbase for the two overlaps

[icy citrus]

It's already generating LNF hype for being retweeted there

Bout to be disappointed fans

But maybe

It's an emoji for both

They've been cooking

[grizzled apex]

yea thats exactly the kinda precedent I hope HG avoid setting

[icy citrus]

Yeah

Maybe they just got excited and starting hitting retweet

[grizzled apex]

I am glad that Sean's posting on Bluesky at least. Just opening twitter nowadays feels like a self lobotomy at times. Hope they get the trifecta of accounts moved over soon.

[icy citrus]

Yes pls

[swift turret]

BEACON

BEACON

[analog breach]

LIGHT THE BEACONS. Gondor calls for aid.

[gloomy isle]

Personally I'm thinking this is an expedition

[grizzled apex]

nothing set server side yet, going off previous patterns that usually means either no expedition, or expedition 2 weeks after the update drops usually

but again, nothing's set in stone with HG, I'm just going off of what I've noticed for the last year or two

[mental socket]

lnf acc getting activity again is highly suspect

[icy citrus]

Maybe it just means HG is cooking, and we'll get LNF at the gamefest and an NMS Update

[gloomy isle]

Huh that's interesting then. Maybe it's the corvettes after all?

[dense quartz]

Beacon...
I shall never stop hoping that the discovery page will replace the totally useless planet jpg with a 3D model we can rotate around and look at waypoints we've set on it.

[ebon spoke]

You know, there actually is an unused discovery screen page called 'planet map'. It references a 3d model render texture (like how the ship is displayed in the inventory) and no other UI elements.

been there a few years though

[dense quartz]

Woah.