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[dusty phoenix]

Does going through the galaxy centre do that too?

[spring phoenix]

does anyone know what reseting the simulation does?

[prime inlet]

oh

you already asked here

hehe

ok

so

@spring phoenix basically - lore wise, in short trying to restart atlas in hopes of making it work right again

gameplay wise

a once per save shortcut to another galaxy

[cloud jolt]

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<:info:850810445577453658> Which orb do I pick?

• This decision will damage everything that's still installed in Exosuit, active Ship and Multi-tool tech inventories (exception: exosuit core techs e.g. Life Support).

• Each of the 4 orbs represent 1 of 4 galaxy types in the game, and while this decision can't be repeated in the current save, it's easy enough to reach galaxies of other types later.

• Orb and associated type:

  • Teal/Norm (Euclid, the starter galaxy is Norm, the base weighting for biome spawns)
  • Red/Harsh (More extreme survival planets)
  • Blue/Empty (More dead and weird biome planets)
  • Green/Lush (More lush biome planets)

• If the player is still in Euclid at this point, then:

  • Teal leads to Hilbert Dimension (2);
  • Red leads to Calypso (3);
  • Blue leads to Budullangr (7);
  • Green leads to Eissentam (10).

• Space Anomaly teleporter is often an easy way to reach other galaxy types later; it's not uncommon for there to be a Featured Base in Eissentam.
  

Shared by: bkay201 Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[spring phoenix]

if i already sayed no and want to go back can i?

[dusty phoenix]

You can't go back to that, no, but you CAN access the other galaxies by going to the centre of your current galaxy

But rather than picking which type, you'll go through the galaxies in order.

It can be a long journey though if you want to get to Eissentam, the first paradise galaxy.

For the scenic route, you'll have to get to the centre 9 times

Or just go to a featured base at the hub that's in Eissentam. Less scenic but a hell of a lot faster

[inner prawn]

lmao

[stiff heron]

failed to ping XD

[vernal ibex]

@stiff heron

i did

so after you reach the certain of the 1st galaxy Eulicid

there is a total of like 256? Galaxies

and you get an option to pick between the 4 types of them

and then you basically go in a loop

going to the center over and over

but one of the options is yellow and yellow galaxies have a way higher chance to contian Paradise worlds then the others

[stiff heron]

Yeah, I largely learned that when looking up what the hell was going on with everything seeming to be ending during the storyline

I mostly was just scared to continue the progress since I assumed everything would reset, mainly my base

[vernal ibex]

I've also personally had luck with, going to the warp map, and doing the free camera then just floating around until i find a patch of yellow

then i warp to every system there looking

[stiff heron]

I also assume that, this get to the center is how purple solar bodies are found since I looked up that you can't get the atlantean drive without completing the main story

[vernal ibex]

i went around that by doing an event

the cursed event the was out, the ship it gave had a free atlantean drive in it XD

[stiff heron]

oh, color actually matters in terms of getting planets?

[vernal ibex]

it does for the large galaxys, idk if it applies to localize stuff um

@unborn bough !

can you correct or confirm?

[unborn bough]

Tl:dr?

[vernal ibex]

does the color of the local area your in, also work like the color of the entire galaxy?

[unborn bough]

Nope.

[vernal ibex]

like going to an entire yellow galaxy increases paradise worlds. similar in Eucilid can finding just a patch of yellow space all increase paradise worlds in that localize area

ah ok

@stiff heron so i was wrong

[stiff heron]

lol

[vernal ibex]

only the color later at the end of the main story increase your odds

i guess i just got luck in the local area i was in

[quiet arch]

What-

WHAT

[solar crystal]

what do other paths do? im ok with spoilers

[stiff heron]

does reaching the center and choosing a new galaxy reset your base?

[prime inlet]

you mean the other decision at the end of the artemis path? well, basically, you could not bring yourself to do it, you didnt want to lose everything you knew ("lose" here is lore at this point)

[solar crystal]

i see

but doesnt the universe end in 16 minutes?

[analog breach]

16 min for atlas. For player it can be milions of years.

[glass flare]

Also, Atlas is an unreliable narrator. If the black hole's radiation is corrupting the server hardware -- warping the simulation's worlds and breaking down the walls between simulations -- then it's most likely also corrupting Atlas itself

I've always felt the "world of glass" was some reference to holographic memory storage. And in that case, perhaps Void Mother is still the most pure and unaffected by the server corruption going on

[icy citrus]

Presuming anything it tells us is true is a mistake imo

[glass flare]

Yeah, and not even necessarily because it has gone rampant or something, but it may think it knows the truth. Or the truth it is given by a layer of system above it. I guess ultimately it comes down to how much we trust the writers of the story to not be screwing with us. Given that Sean is a huge troll...who knows lol

[untold ibex]

Hello ! Are there some "lore experts" here ? I have few questions about the lore and I'd really love to understand it.

I already finished all story missions years ago. I'm not scared about spoilers.

First of all I'd like to really understand where the data in the first computer we build come from? I understand it's from a "previous version" of us, but where, when?

[dull verge]

||Every capital-T Traveler that exists is an iteration of the same guy. It's not you necessarily (or me, or anyone else). Rather, we're all an iteration of the real (?) guy that was first scanned by the Atlas (its creator, or a member of the team responsible for it). This includes Artemis, Apollo, Null, and the NPCs you'll meet on the Anomaly (with the exceptions of Nada & Polo who are/were "real" in the sense of being native to their original universes.

Outside of the Anomaly (which exists in the space between universes, there is only one Traveler per universe. Normally. When the boundaries are thin and/or fail (or don't exist, such as on the Anomaly) we can see and interact with one another. This is an aberration. We're supposed to be alone. One Traveler per simulation.

There have been a lot of different simulations. Some are running concurrently. Some were aborted and restarted. This has all happened an unknown number of times before. And while you MAY be the Last Traveller (although probably not), you're certainly not the First (that's Null). So you're not necessarily following in your own footsteps. Rather, you and the previous Traveller are both versions of the same guy. And even Null is just an iteration of the Atlas' creator.||

As I understand it, ofc.

||The data itself probably comes from Telemon. This is a subroutine of the Atlas that is your Exosuit's AI. This is how your suit can do what would otherwise be hot nonsense like "no archive found; substituting data".||

[untold ibex]

Thank you so much for that clear answer. Do we know why the Atlas creates a Traveler per universe ? Something like it's its own way to explore it ?

[untold ibex]

Great ! Do we know why Telemon is in out exosuit ? Was it the case for other travelers ?

Also, a big thing I don't get : why Artemis was killed because she tried to take a Portal, and why do we survive even if we did the same thing ? Telemon again ?

[solid depot]

So if i understand correctly , doing the 16 jumps takes you to another galaxy, you must package everything not to lose it.

so does that mean all the bases etc I have now are gone? Can never warp back etc?

[quaint mason]

no

@tawdry violet the "reset" is pretending that you going to a new galaxy is a new you, but in reality you keep everything, youre just in a new galaxy. you can return to the previous one via base/station teleports. also make sure you put a base in the new galaxy so you can return.

[solid depot]

just have to package everything up first?

[quaint mason]

yep

[solid depot]

gotta make inv space lol

does all stuff in storage on freighter and bases stay untouched?

[quaint mason]

yes

you only have to package exosuit tech btw

for ship and multitool you can just switch to a different ship/tool you dont use

[solid depot]

yeah thats quite a bit still lol like 30 slots.

im going to do my 2 upgrades per jump when I do while doing atlas and my 16.

Does your exosuit keep storage slots at least?

[quaint mason]

yes

all that happens is any installed tech in exosuit, ship and multitool breaks

nothing else

[solid depot]

so after the 16th jump, is when it says it happens will I be able to acknowledge or know when to have done that by.

[quaint mason]

i cant really understand your sentence sorry. but if youre wanting to know what happens after the 16th warp, you will get portal coordinates. make sure you are prepared before entering, no turning back

[dull verge]

|| That's the general thinking. Sharing its creations with its own creator. Also the hope that, as (an iteration of) its creator, the Traveler can do something to help the Atlas from within the simulation. This is probably an act of desperation however, since the Atlas is having hardware problems that no one inside the simulations can do anything about. That said, I believe the Travelers didn't start appearing until the Atlas had already started dying.

AFAIK, Telemon is always the Exosuit's AI for every Traveler. It's why Laylaps recognizes Telemon: they've already met. You and Tethys aren't the first Travelers to mess with the Sentinels on that level. Ariadne and Null both did a lot. Null, IIRC, was the first to extract the portal glyphs from a Sentinel drone.

As for Artemis, IDK why she didn't make it. I've heard before the theory that she was ambushed and murdered by Null, but I don't buy it. Seems more likely that the only reason you survive going through the portals is that the Atlas intervenes directly. It isn't clear. ||

[untold ibex]

Okay thanks. So, we're a "special" traveler because Atlas feels the end is coming even more at each new Universe.
That could explain why Artemis died, and why the Atlas tried to save us this time ?

We don't know since when Artemis is dead right ? It could be like thousand universes ago ?

[dull verge]

It's hard to say whether she was from a parallel or previous simulation. My gut tells me that you've somehow hijacked "her" simulation: that your initialization corresponds to the precise moment of her death (either that or you are her, reiterated), and this happened when she stepped through the portal for the first time. Since Apollo was communicating with her, and he appears to be in a parallel-yet-synchronous universe, I would guess that all of this happened fairly recently, with the caveat that it has almost certainly happened before an unknown number of times.

[dusty phoenix]

I wonder what the nineteenth minute is, then, that the autophage have in mind. A way to survive a little longer after the destruction of the Atlas computer

Sorry, that's the void mother and Atlantid but still

[dull verge]

The Atlas is unable to see past the moment of its own death, but it also knows that it won't be alone when that happens. Presumably, it could undergo a hard reset after being repaired and/or relocated (there is some confusion about whether the Atlas is simply breaking down after running for too long or whether it's being actively destroyed by a black hole).

That said, the 19th minute may not be literal, as 16 doesn't always refer to the time limit but also Simulation 16. And a 9 is just an inverted 6. And this keeps coming up with dissonant (corrupted Sentinel) and harmonic (Autophage) stuff. e.g. inverted mirrors.

Personally, I'm skeptical of the black hole because 1) the Sun isn't massive enough and 2) the Sentinels aren't stupid. Their whole plan is to archive everything in the (stable, solid-state) World of Glass for future retrieval. Pointless if the whole Atlas complex is about to be physically destroyed.

[dusty phoenix]

Even if the sun did turn into a black hole we wouldn't get sucked in because that's not how mass or gravity works

And they don't roam around the galaxy or anything like that either

But from what I remember, 19 isn't supposed to simply be an upside down 16, it's referred to specifically as the 19th minute, and some dialogue refers to "a way to survive to the nineteenth minute" and some autophage during repairs I've seen dialogue referencing the idea of 17? Perhaps as a minute, or perhaps as a glyph

[dull verge]

Oh yeah for sure. I'm not saying Minute 19 doesn't exist (indeed, it must, regardless of what happens to the Atlas). But rather that there is also a Simulation #16, which is supposedly a whole universe (as opposed to, say, Simulation #5, which is Nada's reconstruction of the Korvax Prime system).

[dusty phoenix]

NMS lore is very complicated... I forgot there even was numbered simulations

Love it

I think it's a very unique setting

[glass flare]

I don't exactly remember the mentions of 19 in prior lore, but from Stellar Multitudes it seems that the Autophage were referring to the 19th minute as a time in the past (if we're counting down), where the purple worlds were pulled from

[solid depot]

So once you do the 16 jumps, its really the 17th that takes you to another galaxy? and then from then you have the glyph knowledge to use portals to go to whatever glyphs people put up for items etc?

[quaint mason]

after the 16th, you get portal coordinates in the system you arrive in

[solid depot]

okay so I need to have stuff locked from exosuit, by the 15th, and the 16th takes me or the 16th, and 17th takes? Or am I still misunderstanding that part?

and thanks for all you knowledgeable ppl lurking this channel.

[quaint mason]

it happens after you enter the portal, so by 16th yes

[solid depot]

so you enter a portal after getting the cords. So its not something it auto forces after a certain point?

[quaint mason]

no. once the portal is marked you can pretty much do anything, until you enter

[solid depot]

okay thanks for giving me that info, super useful. Can make go ahead and stay on pace, with what im doing, and how Im doing it, cause ive got a system. Hit the atalas, then spacestation for exosuit upgrade, then call nexus and the same. YOu keep all the slots etc right?

[quaint mason]

yes, nothing is lost, its just all installed tech breaks

[solid depot]

and then once you go thru do you have the ability to use portals and set the glyps yourself? everytime thus far ive tried it was either quest and forced or wouldnt allow me after activating them. Because i put a base by one that was used in questline to later return.

[quaint mason]

after the 16th warp you have all glyphs. entering the final portal for the story is an opportunity to go to a galaxy with choice of type. also using portals from story is not recommended, you can instead find them via monoliths which can be located using planetary charts bought from the space station cartographer

[shut sparrow]

What do y'all think it'd be like to walk through a glyph portal?

[dull verge]

Cold and wet like in Stargate.

[solid depot]

what does birthing a new star do with atlas?

[dull verge]

It does n o t h i n g.

Just closes out the story. You get an item.

[prime quail]

Just needed to remind everyone this game is insane…
I just thought I beat everything and had nothing left to do, now I just discovered I can have a sentry and a automated Minotaur

[soft sonnet]

just had an idea

during the artemis quest, an npc claims the stars that artemis drew "do not exist", what if those stars artemis drew were purple ones and thats why they "dont exist", as this happens before we the player restore those stars

[worldly aspen]

@soft sonnet that would be cool

[narrow thunder]

Well I think you can do that quest by just following atlas path, no? Not sure

It would be interesting

I assume the universe has reset many times in lore, mirroring the resets by updates

My interpretation is that the game implies that Artemis is already dead, and what you interact with is an "echo", a stored memory of Artemis playing on repeat

Therefore it's possible that Artemis was talking about stars that no longer exist

Or simply different because they were in another iteration, possibly another galaxy

From the waking titan arg it seems time travel is another thing that exists, adding even more befuddlement

The main quest is so cool

[soft sonnet]

yes, but the game is kinda loose on "dead", death itself seems to be pretty undefined in the universe atlas made, what with the whole "vague dream of life and death" sort of thing

so maybe its not like they just physically died, they just stopped existing

just like the purple stars did, the artemis we interact with is just an echo of data that doesnt exist anymore

[narrow thunder]

true

and the story does seem to be going in a direction of old things returning

[soft sonnet]

it supposedly happened after they went through a portal, could be a simple case of going through a portal with no properly defined location

teleported into oblivion

[narrow thunder]

into a phantom system maybe? 😮

[soft sonnet]

thats exactly what Im saying I think might've happened

since they describe stars that supposedly dont exist

they do exist, just not in the "instance" we were in at that time

hence the npc being unaware of them

theres definitely a theme of there being multiple versions of the same universe overlapping eachother, whether its from a different time, or jsut copies of data getting mixed up

like apollo being at the same holo terminus as you but not being anywhere in sight, cause hes in a different instance

(also I really like that they made that a plot point, an obvious reference to the 2 players finding eachother when the game came out)

[compact coyote]

Anyone ever wish for waking titan to come back?

[soft sonnet]

yeah, I didnt get to experience it

so of course I hope it comes back

shouldnt be story content rendered inaccessibile simply cause it happened before I played the game

[compact coyote]

Right, and yeah it was amazing. I remember a lot about it, I was very young though when it started, and I participated. It was a fun time all around. Hopefully someday it comes back with a season 3

[fierce quarry]

How cool would it be if Light No Fire took place in the fabricated planet Artemis resides in?

[fierce quarry]

I dunno, I just wanna see Artemis and Apollo again, or have the ability to check in on them

[livid zinc]

Regarding the story... did we ever get to find Apollo?

[compact coyote]

I wanna have that drink with Apollo he talked about

Also, yeah I wish Artemis was still alive. So I could see them again

[glass flare]

I don't want LNF to have anything to do with NMS or simulations. just let it be a cool fantasy story

[dusty phoenix]

We've had a bunch of those though! I say they take advantage of and expand on what they've got

Or at the very least something equally as unique of a premise

[glass flare]

sci-fi is good for deep thoughts, but when I play a fantasy game I just want some old-fashioned escapism. I don't want to learn that I'm just in a computer again and this life I'm building on a planet is meaningless. anyway I guess this is kind of off-topic.

[dusty phoenix]

I think the whole point of the story is that it isn't a meaningless life just because it's a simulation as the origin of your reality doesn't define it's worth but okay

I just don't see Hello Games doing something that simple with LNF

It doesn't help that they likely won't design it to be a linear story

It's an exploration game so a linear story would inherently detract from that

[glass flare]

I don't think NMS is really prescriptive about what you should take from their story. I mean HG obviously want you to see the positive side, but ultimately it's a thought experiment for the players. Personally no, if I knew I was in a simulation, life would become more meaningless to me. I'd just be an advanced AI spitting out poetry and songs and inane banter.

[dusty phoenix]

I think that's an awfully pessimistic view to be honest. The point of the story is you think, feel, and create on your own nonetheless. You created your own identity despite being code, and still experience life on your terms. It's not like you're designed like a modern day AI that just works off an algorithm in NMS

Did you kill or save Artemis?

[glass flare]

We don't even have our own identity though, we're an echo of a human who worked on Atlas, some fraction of their "soul", who might be dead now

I saved Artemis. Though she seemed not that happy about her new circumstance

[dusty phoenix]

I mean it would be a lot to take in for anybody, but something they'll come to terms with. Hell, it happens with the traveler, they have a whole panic attack and everything before accepting it. (Artemis is she/her? I saw they/them the entire story so I guess I never knew.)

[glass flare]

Artemis's gender was amibiguous, but always seemed more like a she to me for some reason. Plus her name is taken from a Greek goddess

[dusty phoenix]

Fair enough. But I think the fact you saved her shows you know there's inherently some value to her life despite it being merely code

On some level at least, you cared about her!

She thought and felt through the whole thing just like the player

Another great example are the korvax. They're alive too, but are also code. They're my favorite guys because of it!

[glass flare]

Well Artemis is one of us, no? A traveller? One of the many echoes of that original human. So it makes sense to be empathetic. But Artemis obviously has a level of self-awareness beyond the other NPCs. I don't really care much about the random NPCs in the simulation

[dusty phoenix]

I think once the difference between artificial life and biological becomes completely unrecognizable, there isn't one. Our brains are basically computers! We receive electrical impulses and chemical distribution that react to outside stimuli and prior events. Yet we think and feel and are alive! Just like artemis. That's up to personal interpretation though

[torpid knoll]

hey guys!..

so I found out a metropolis system exists...?

Are they marked different on the galaxy map?

[dusty phoenix]

I think no not really. If I'm right that's a community of players making bases in one system

[torpid knoll]

oh...!?

I think I found a perfect planet for that in Euclid.

[dusty phoenix]

Yeah if you look around you could probably join one of you find the people online and get coords

Should start one then! I'd like having a little base near people

[torpid knoll]

Abandoned system, with a paradise planet.

[dusty phoenix]

Lack of space station MAY be an issue but that's up to personal discretion I think

[torpid knoll]

Would be why a community of players would be perfect.

[dusty phoenix]

True though I meant technology merchants and the important terminals like exosuit slots (though I guess you could use the anomaly for exosuits)

[torpid knoll]

anything but ships really.

[dusty phoenix]

I'd take this to the no man's sky base building channel, they can give better advice than I cuz I made my first serious base like. Three days ago and it's bad

[torpid knoll]

players could set up shop to trade resources.

[torpid knoll]

mine was the freighter 😅 I'm still debating on adding outside cross walks.. but I'm pretty proud of my build thus far.

[dusty phoenix]

Same! I gotta redo my frieghter

But this is all off topic for this chat let's take it to base building

[torpid knoll]

Well, it's cause I'm looking for a portal in the Eajerandal galaxy...

[dusty phoenix]

Oh ok

A specific one? Or just in general

[torpid knoll]

I was reading something about systems inhabited by all races..

[dusty phoenix]

Most are, just all have a majority of one

[torpid knoll]

Something about the alpha quadrant..

[dusty phoenix]

Looks like another fan term but ask in NMS help for better information

[torpid knoll]

and I'm looking at a chart +
0000-0F00 on x,y,z axises..

I'm just not sure if this is spoiler material or not, so I was being safer than sorry.

[dusty phoenix]

No shame in that. This looks to be part of the iVc quadrant map, a player community.

[torpid knoll]

I'm basically wondering if that's hex for the coords.. if they're the same for each galaxy... and if there are quadrants to galazy..

[dusty phoenix]

The only thing I'd worry about for spoilers would be stuff regarding the story itself

[torpid knoll]

glyphs are story related..

[dusty phoenix]

Other than that you're safe

Eh kinda

[torpid knoll]

I skipped most of the text, so Idk if they explained what they are..

[dusty phoenix]

I mean like characters or events

[torpid knoll]

I love the stargate reference tho 😊

That's Spoilers for sure.

[dusty phoenix]

You should find a video of online covering the story! Or read wiki pages. It's pretty cool!

[torpid knoll]

I'm considering covering it.. I just haven't decided yet.

I think I finally completed the story and there's nothing left.. I think..

[dusty phoenix]

met the autophage?

[torpid knoll]

yup

[dusty phoenix]

Got purple stars?

I think you should be caught up then

If the top 3 quests are anything other than to explore the galaxy or show the Atlas stuff you're caught up

But you can find a few side stories! Such as one where you use an underwater exocraft to explore an ocean

[torpid knoll]

I feel like the story eludes to the community too 😅
like you should be playing and exploring other players and their builds.

[dusty phoenix]

That's why you can completely ignore it if you want

[torpid knoll]

that's one I've yet to do.

[dusty phoenix]

Really after getting the anomaly you can ignore the story entirely and just explore. The story, in addition to fun world building, teaches how to get many materials and the general gameplay loop on top of many recipes

[torpid knoll]

I want to make bases for my specialists and one in each system of a trade type top tier..

and I've recently decided, different galaxies to give myself a broader range..

[dusty phoenix]

Go for it! Don't forget a pirate system, but that's also a base building channel thing to help get done

[torpid knoll]

I feel like the vykeen belong in a harsh galaxy.. and yeah, that pirate system..

[dusty phoenix]

Vykeen are pretty chill actually. They're very rough and tough yeah but they're sworn to aid the traveler and are currently at peace

[torpid knoll]

I was annoyed that every playthrough every first word for friend, was interloper 😑

[dusty phoenix]

That's part of their culture! As well as "Grah!"

[torpid knoll]

yea what is grah?

[dusty phoenix]

Just an expression I think

And interloper is just another word for anomaly

[torpid knoll]

Ah!!!

that makes so much sense.

[dusty phoenix]

Yup

They know a lot about the traveler and are the only of the three species not to see the sentinels as divine

They're sworn to aid the traveler by their culture! They're cool

[torpid knoll]

oh...

that's interesting.

Is this the channel to discuss lore?

[dusty phoenix]

Sure is! Yea they went to war with the sentinels long long ago

[torpid knoll]

Cause I would like to make my bases Lore accurate.

[dusty phoenix]

They were winning and the sentinels backed off, but the Gek swooped in and knocked them down while the Vykeen were recovering

The Gek also took the korvax as slaves at one point...

[torpid knoll]

I also want a "Stargate SG" base.. like hands down needs to be done.

[dusty phoenix]

I think bases can't be lore accurate just because there's not a lot of actual buildings to go off of but you could include environmental features showing off parts of their cultures

[torpid knoll]

For sure!..

[dusty phoenix]

The korvax are essentially a hive mind, many many individuals all sharing a large pool of knowledge and experiences

Also, when they "disconnect", they give their shells to another korvax iteration like recycling

[torpid knoll]

Would you include autophage, and traveller as races too? cause I feel like the anomaly is a Traveller's space space station... and it's almost like the autophage are the precursor to the travellers.

[dusty phoenix]

That being said the original korvax hive mind was destroyed by the Geks and they melted many of their shells for resources. Geks are the real jerks (before the korvax cut themselves and bled into their breeding pool to rewrite their hostile DNA)

[torpid knoll]

😭 but they're so cute...

[dusty phoenix]

Autophage are like... Zombie korvax? Kinda? The Geks destroyed the original pool of disconnected Korvax, Korvax Prime, which later formed its own consciousness like the Atlas known as the Void Mother or Atlantid. When you go to a dissonant planet, that's her

[torpid knoll]

hmm

I like their multitools.

[dusty phoenix]

But the autophage are the individual korvax minds that were a part of it and managed to rebuild themselves both physically and spiritually into the world

The staffs are a big part of their culture! An autophage with a staff means they completed their journey to rebuild themselves into the world

[torpid knoll]

not the staffs but the ones from the monoliths..

[dusty phoenix]

Oh yeah those

Atlantid multi tools I believe

[torpid knoll]

straight from the mother?..

[dusty phoenix]

At this time not a lot is known about her besides sorta the origin

She's on a similar level of control as the Atlas but noticably distinct

[torpid knoll]

hmm..

I have a blue one and one that looks more atlas style..

the blue is B class and the atlas one is C.. not sure if that has any relevance or clues..

it's interesting tho.

[dusty phoenix]

Probably coincidence. She's hinted at knowing how to survive when the Atlas dies that's another important part to her

Something to do with the water

[cloud jolt]

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<:info:850810445577453658> Do I really have to travel to the center of the galaxy?

A: Despite what its objective says, no. The Purge simply requires the player to warp 16 times in any direction, to any system. Please wait for the mission to acknowledge progress on HUD before warping out again. Each warp teaches 1 portal glyph, if the player hasn't learned any yet.

❗ Warning: After the 16th warp, it is recommended to take a moment to store installed tech/modules on exosuit, active ship and multit-tool tech inventories (or swap to secondary ship and multi-tool you don't care about, only do it for exosuit).

Note: If the player hasn't completed The Atlas Path yet in this save, it is suggested to do so now, since The Purge will keep registering progress even if it's not the selected mission.

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[solid depot]

Finally just went thru

so yuo can pick what type of universe it creates next? exhausted etc?

[glass flare]

well it doesn't create them per se, the same galaxies are available to everyone

[solid depot]

but if you choose ruthless, tranquil, exhausted, parallel, it creates it based on those choices?

[solid depot]

so when you get a new galaxy, your missions stay too, just populated near you in the start of the new galaxy?

[quaint mason]

yeah

[quaint mason]

theyre only created in the story, in the game its just sending you to a galaxy of that type

[solid depot]

I picked tranquil so hopefully I see the beauties now lol

[cloud jolt]

@hoary cave
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<:info:850810445577453658> Do I really have to travel to the center of the galaxy?

A: Despite what its objective says, no. The Purge simply requires the player to warp 16 times in any direction, to any system. Please wait for the mission to acknowledge progress on HUD before warping out again. Each warp teaches 1 portal glyph, if the player hasn't learned any yet.

❗ Warning: After the 16th warp, it is recommended to take a moment to store installed tech/modules on exosuit, active ship and multit-tool tech inventories (or swap to secondary ship and multi-tool you don't care about, only do it for exosuit).

Note: If the player hasn't completed The Atlas Path yet in this save, it is suggested to do so now, since The Purge will keep registering progress even if it's not the selected mission.

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[noble harbor]

How do i start the "They Who Returned" quest? I've already completed The Purge storyline and also entered a harmonic camp before

I did what the wiki said and warped but nothing happened

[toxic radish]

Have you interacted with the autophage and computer at the camp? Iirc you can verify this by checking if you have the Aeron Turbojet jetpack customization

[lone tangle]

!faq-purplesystems

[cloud jolt]

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Worlds Part 2 Content

How to get started...

📖 Warning: Purple systems are end-game content so you must finish certain quests before you can access them.

1. Complete the Artemis Path (the main story of the game).
   -# > !faq-artemispath in #bot-spam shows the steps.
2. Atlas Eternal must show in your mission log, once Atlas Path is completed.
3. Find a Harmonic Camp and release the multi-tool seal.
   -# > !faq-interceptor in #bot-spam shows how to find them.
4. Warp to trigger: They Who Returned and complete the Autophage missions.
5. Return to space, aim towards empty space, and engage Pulse Drive, disengage when you see the quest's Space Encounter.
6. New Mission: In Stellar Multitudes.

🛑 Warning: Do not leave the Atlas Station system you'll go to in the quest without visiting its space station or claiming a base computer on one of its planets.

7. Finish the mission to reveal all purple systems on the galaxy map.
   Type !faq-starcolor in #bot-spam for more info.

These are the known steps as of update 5.5 Worlds Pt II (<t:1738163940:D>) and are subject to change.
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Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[lone tangle]

@noble harbor

[elder marlin]

Yep. Not sure if this would fall under spoilers or not but I did find a couple of dedicated solar system glyphs I can use when building my portal addresses to travel to different parts of a galaxy. Found that 079 always has a black hole and 07A always has an atlas interface. Really awesome there!

[wise swift]

I wasn't active during Waking Titan, so I need some closure with a couple of questions.

[dusty phoenix]

What's up?

[wise swift]

What are the operational divisions/ sub-companies of the Atlas Foundation?

[dusty phoenix]

The only other company involved I can find information of is W/ARE who worked with brain scanning and perception altering technology

[noble harbor]

I believe I have to find a harmonic camp right? I've been to one before but never talked to the robots yet

[near harbor]

If i reset the universe and make a new galaxy do i keep my stuff or nah

[near harbor]

i didnt reset the universe and now i cant go back and reset it

ughhh

[runic mesa]

Just visiting an harmonic camp isn't the requirement. You have to unlock the terminal there

[fathom flint]

Is there any reason to keep the exosuit toy the Atlas gives me installed, or is it just a toy?

Sure doesn't seem to do anything

[dusty phoenix]

Exosuit toy?

Do you mean heart of the sun, I think it's called?

It's an extra life in the top left

[fathom flint]

Yeah

Oh!!

I didn’t even notice!!

Well that is useful

[safe gyro]

I have the heart but I don't see where to install it?

@dusty phoenix

[dusty phoenix]

Exosuit, anywhere

[safe gyro]

What exactly are you talking about?

It doesn't give the install option

[dusty phoenix]

Oh wait sorry

You craft that into remembrance

And THAT is technology to install

[safe gyro]

I have that installed. What does it do?

[dusty phoenix]

Extra life in top left

Same as the star seed

[safe gyro]

I don't see anything at the top left of my screen

[dusty phoenix]

By your health there are small circles

Once your health goes down, each following hit takes one away

[safe gyro]

The 2 bar things?

[dusty phoenix]

Yeah like a +

Once you lose all those you die

They're also more difficult to recharge

[safe gyro]

No plus thing

[dusty phoenix]

I'm not sure what you mean then

But remembrance adds another one of those circles

As does the star seed

[safe gyro]

Oh by the shield

[dusty phoenix]

Yeah

[safe gyro]

I have 9 of those

[dusty phoenix]

Always helps to have more is the idea

[noble harbor]

How do you do that?

I have glyphs unlocked

[runic mesa]

Find a harmonic camp on a dissonant word again. Do the easy math puzzle at the computer terminal there. It will reveal a location for a Sentinel ship, unlock the cabinet for the Sentinel MT and unlock a backpack customization.

The only mission that really requires glyphs is Starbirth. They're mainly used to easily travel to specific planets or systems

[noble harbor]

I did not realize scanning the memory registers was itself the math puzzle until I watched a video

[noble harbor]

I just unlocked that quest actually

Is the living ship better than my S class Sentinel?

[runic mesa]

Depends on your preference.

[noble harbor]

I see

Thank you for the help it's been confusing but I finally understand

[runic mesa]

NMS isn't really a game that requires the best stats. S class anything with decent modules will wreck anything the game throws at you.

[noble harbor]

I put a base computer next to a harmonic camp on a dissonant planet that I found

I also killed resonators to get that scanner

[runic mesa]

A lot of players preference for certain ships is 90% appearances.

[noble harbor]

What about a sentinel multi tool is it better?

[runic mesa]

For example, my favorite is solars

[runic mesa]

Sentinel MTs do have excellent combat stats

And now that you unlocked the terminal, They Who Returned should activate from pulsing now.

[gleaming seal]

Any uodates as to what expidition 18 gona be about or they gona redo and.older one?

[runic mesa]

We never know. HG rarely announce anything in advance

[grizzled apex]

hmm, looks like there's another expedition pre-loaded in the server rn... Gonna keep a look out for when the start date updates

[fervent fern]

...and I didn't even touch the current one yet...

[near harbor]

You get two extra health circle thingys and you can use remembrance terminals behind atlas pass v2 and v3 doors

[quaint mason]

yeah main use is lore

[near harbor]

chat if i reset the universe before the purge mission do i just get to choose the next universe

i havent tried it

[runic mesa]

You mean go to the galaxy center manually before finishing the storyline? No, you don't get to choose. It'll just drop you into the next numbered galaxy in line. If you're jumping from Euclid, you'll go to Hilbert.

[empty nymph]

I finished all of the quests, I then went to the center and found out about that. Kinda feeling a stall looming, any advice

[narrow thunder]

Reruns have always been during holidays so far

So it will most likely be a new one

[narrow thunder]

No more set goals to follow, that's that if you need em

Now you do whatever you want

Explore, build a big base, get achievements, unlock titles/customizations

[near harbor]

and if you do it after the purge mission?

[runic mesa]

Same. The Purge is the only point in the game where you have a choice. And it can only be done once a save.

[bold acorn]

TIL there's giant planets that aren't gas giants. found an ultramarine giant

[past roost]

So where did the Anomalies come from

Or is it just “nobody knows”

I beat the game but I did so like 3 years ago

[dusty phoenix]

Atlas makes em

[lone tangle]

wait until you find a ||paradise giant||

[bold acorn]

found one today and it had no trees and was my least favorite color :(

[lone tangle]

how can paradise but no trees ?

[quaint mason]

paradise just means a lush biome planet with no storms. lush can have no trees

[uncut harness]

So nanites are just Korvax blood, correct? If so, then we are using thier blood as a form of currency. And nanites are apparently a liquid too?

[dusty phoenix]

I think it's more like a lot of really small solids, like picking up a bunch of little beads that spill all over the place

[quiet arch]

Ngl I wish they put just a bit more into Artemis at the end of the campaign.
||I uploaded her this time around and It felt really bad and they eventually figured it out anyway, which took all the weight of feigning ignorance off of my chest but still kinda sucked how fast it was resolved?||

I was on a tightrope surrounded by eggshell landmines and suddenly she goes "After finding out..." which makes me wonder how. Cause I sure didn't tell the truth

[uncut harness]

ah

[uncut harness]

but what about when it mixed with the unborn gek? how could it do that

[dusty phoenix]

I think they don't have to be liquid for that

If it can get in it gets in

Like microplastics today

[arctic anchor]

As see it, nanites are just... electric bacteria

[ebon spoke]

This is the icon for them, so yeah, they're a form of (probably electronic) microorganism.

they also are described as being found in Sentinel casings so its less like them being just Korvax blood, more like something that is present in the Korvax blood or the Korvax use them as blood, without them being specifically from them

[arctic anchor]

Still odd we use them as currency... maybe the atlas simulation is buggy🤣

[vernal ibex]

So i wanna ask, whats thee hmmm

The Entire Universe of NMS, takes place within a Giant Super Massive Simulation created by the ATLAS. But the ATLAS is Dying? and it resets the Universe Upon our choice?

So whats the deal?

Is ATLAS actually Dying?
Does Resetting it Akin to just rebooting your PC Tower, reloading the last saved data?

If you decide to let the "universe" die, does it really die?

As thee Anomaly? what is our significance within this cycle? the Anomoly or Anomolies are just a Corrupted Brain Scan by the Creator of the Atlas? So are we real? are we just Data?

Is the Universe just all Data? or is it all Real?

I SMOKED THE GEKNIP I NEED ANWSERS

[uncut harness]

so like a nano bot

[ebon spoke]

The Atlas is in fact dying, its been abandoned by its creators for a very very long time and a black hole is about to swallow the planet it's built on. Resetting it isn't really reloading from saved data, its wiping the entire simulation and starting over from scratch. For whatever reason, the Atlas has a lot of similarities between the different iterations of its simulation (Gek, Korvax and Vy'keen seem to evolve into existence every time). The Atlas is going to die regardless of whether or not you reset it, but it thinks it can find more meaning and learn why its creator abandoned it by running more simulations. The Atlas simulations are significantly sped up from 'real time', so even though it has sixteen minutes left in the real world, the amount of time left within the simulation is unknown, potentially millions of years.

In the game, we play as an iteration of the Traveller, a simulated being made using a scan the atlas made of it's creator. The Traveller's role is simply to exist in the universe for the Atlas to observe and understand it's creator better, though we also are obviously tasked by it to reset the simulation - something that the Atlas either isn't able to or doesn't want to do itself.

Neither the universe nor the Traveller are real, all is data in the computer that is the Atlas. It is worth noting though that because the Traveller is created from a brain scan, it isn't entirely the Atlas' own design.

[vernal ibex]

interesting. kinda depressing that no matter what techinally the NMS universe is going to end

[dusty phoenix]

I think it being a black hole about to destroy it is still debated. I think it's just having a hardware problem it can't fix that's going to destroy it

[icy citrus]

I think we should take anything it tells us as less than reliable

[rancid flax]

isnt the mention of the black hole through external sources?

as in outside the game

[dusty phoenix]

I don't recall anything about black holes at all to be honest. I remember hearing about it from others but I don't know the source

[rancid flax]

might of been the old arg. im not sure really

[dusty phoenix]

Trying to research it but given the vague nature of the information and the overlap with the in game black holes, I'm not getting anything but other people saying it may be a black hole

I don't think it's a black hole though. For one, that's not how black holes work. For another, evidence is lacking. I think it's simply a hardware error breaking it down

[rancid flax]

same here. the talk of the black hole in the real world is nothing new but i dont know where it originates from

[ebon spoke]

the terminals behind the atlas pass doors specifically say black hole, they also describe (in the context of the Atlas simulating its own future) the Atlas being ripped apart by it

[dusty phoenix]

Would you mind linking me somewhere to read this? Not that I don't believe you I'd just like to see the context

[ebon spoke]

I believe before that lore was added it was described just as a gravitational anomaly, the community assumed it was a black hole since the time distortion also fits with the simulations blending together even though they are supposed to be run one at a time

[ebon spoke]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Rogue_Data

[dusty phoenix]

Thanks

Okay read it through

Something bugs me though

For one it was describing the worlds within the Atlas up until the black hole mention. Is it a black hole within it's world, or one actually threatening the Atlas? It says it's "ripping apart it's world" which makes things complicated

It then is followed by someone walking up to the Atlas and putting it's hand on it

You can't exactly do that if you're being spaghettified apart by a black hole

"It witnesses its own self, the black hole ripping apart its world, its core systems almost destroyed."

Other dialogues refer to it as simply dying

There's a few points fighting each other

I can't say one or the other really. I'm leaning towards not a black hole due to, well, that's not how black holes work, they're not galaxy roaming roombas that seek out prey.

Even if our sun was replaced by a black hole of the same mass we'd continue orbiting it as normal

Also, the Atlantid refers to a way to survive beyond the 16th minute which would be completely impossible under the black hole circumstances

I'm open to being proved wrong though it's more fun

[ebon spoke]

I mean, roaming black holes do exist. Its statistically very unlikely that any given planet would be in one's path to get destroyed by it, but it is possible.

I do find it interesting that the Atlas is first described as failing due to its age. It seems that even without an impending apocalyptic event it still would be on its last legs anyway

[dusty phoenix]

Right

I did just do a little more research and I'm somewhat mistaken, it is possible but incredibly unlikely as you said

But I still feel as though something feels off about it being a black hole

If that's the case, then what's the 19th minute? The Atlantid can't have us survive in a black hole somehow

[ebon spoke]

Just reread all the In Stellar Multitudes dialogue. My interpretation is that I think the 19th minute is meant to be three minutes in the past, referring to when the Atlas purged the autophages/Atlantid as well as the other content we find in purple systems. When you interact with the simulation terminal in the Anomaly, you patch into 'Simulation [19]' and locate the system that you are currently in, which is the recently reconstructed one, and then attempt to patch that difference into that Atlas' simulation. I'm not super familliar with the atutophage lore so if there is more about the 19th minute (I didn't find whatever the Atlantid says about it specifically) that contradicts with that interpretation I'd be interested in reading it

[dusty phoenix]

Well from what I remember the sentinels and void mother want to archive everyone in the world of glass

I think the idea is to save the universe on a hard disk of some kind that can be preserved and put on a computer in the future that isn't self destructing

[ebon spoke]

There is a dialogue from one of the Atlas Interfaces, I think in the Artemis quest line, where its giving error logs of catastrophic failures and warns of a system shutdown in 16 minutes before then trying to upload data to... somewhere

[dusty phoenix]

Yup yup

And that whole deal with Apollo was kinda foreshadowing our journey so far. In the end he's uploaded into a new system so maybe we will be too. Unless you killed him I guess

[ebon spoke]

Simulations inside simulations... The Atlas was made for it's creators to simulate their own universe. The Korvax then created their own simulation. If simulation 19 contains the same system that we create in In Stellar Multitudes, does that mean it contains a mirror of the entire universe that the Atlas wiped?

Thematically I don't think it would be a leap to infer that the Atlas itself is in a universe that is also a simulation

[languid narwhal]

u guys hurt my brain when i open this channel

[analog breach]

Dont open it then

[haughty glade]

I hope in a future update the Atlas gets stabilized somehow
I know the game doesn't actually end, but living under the constant threat of "this entire universe will end in 16 minutes" is kind of a downer

[dusty phoenix]

Eh it could go either way but I think I'd prefer the Atlas actually does go through the whole thing

I think the idea is "it will end eventually, but I'm alive now"

Plus it feels like a more satisfying story that way

Gives reason to the Atlantid trying to find a means of survival by escaping

[haughty glade]

I suppose, but I don't know about the whole "meaning" thing since there's no actual way for them to escape

[dusty phoenix]

depends on a lot of factors but it totally is

one theory is that they want to preserve everything into an external storage so that when the atlas computer dies, the worlds will just be able to be put on a new computer in the future

narritively, it's a bad idea to set up a concept you don't expect to use later, so I don't think the idea of surviving beyond the computer's death will disappear completely

[haughty glade]

Hmm, fair

But that's in effect the same thing as what I want: the universe to not have a time limit/die

So I guess it works out either way

[glass flare]

Atlas is screwed either way since the black hole is eating up the star system it resides in. the society that created it already left a long time ago

perhaps if Void Mother escaped to the top level of the simulation, and if the black hole is far enough from the planet that it doesn't yet warp transmission signals, it could theoretically transmit a copy of itself and the Autophage to somewhere else

[dusty phoenix]

i think the black hole is still fairly debatable. many, such as myself, believe it's just the hardware itself deteriorating

[glass flare]

sure, I guess if you want to believe the logs regarding the black hole is fake news, but then at that point you can just believe whatever you wish about the lore

[dusty phoenix]

actually it's because of those logs i'm a little confused about it

it speaks entirely about the universe within itself up until that line

It feels metaphorical to me but it could go either way

I'm not saying it ISN'T a black hole, I'm just saying it's possible it may not be

[dusty phoenix]

you can see my thoughts here

does "it's world" refer to the world within it? Or the world it exists in?

that and hardware deterioration falls in line better to me with the "mad at the creator for making it this way" idea and the fact there's a shot at life to the 19th minute or beyond. In addition, it lets the sentinels archival plan actually seem like it can do somehting

[glass flare]

well, the first line of those logs is

The Atlas has created a simulation of its own world, its entire existence, in an attempt to witness its own impending death.

in that context, I think it means the world Atlas exists in. the one in which its creators existed and built it

[dusty phoenix]

undoubtedly, I agree there

but jump to 16/16

i'll post it here for ease of reference

16/16
The ATLAS witnesses the final sixteen minutes, simulating the future with perfect accuracy.

The walls between worlds fall, each simulation collapsing into the other.

Ten minutes left

The Travellers are no longer separated, no longer kept apart. They stand side by side at the end of days, traversing the remnants of creation, laughing, dying.

Five minutes left

It witnesses its own self, the black hole ripping apart its world, its core systems almost destroyed.

One minute left

And as it watches the moments leading up to its own death, towards completion of sixteen, something happens.

Someone walks towards the ATLAS, a figure in the darkness and in the light. It places its hand against the glass of the ATLAS, and the vision ends.

The ATLAS attempts to see past this moment, but it cannot. It cannot see its own death. It cannot determine who this figure is.

But whatever happens... whatever may occur beyond the sixteen... something will arrive. Something will be there beside it.

At the end of all things, it will no longer be alone.

it's talking about the world of NMS up until 5 minutes left

then it brings up the black hole in the middle of talking about itself. That COULD be metaphorical

it starts and ends with talking about itself in that sentence, is the black hole also a metaphor for it's own shut down?

[glass flare]

well, it references "worlds" within it, then switches to "its world" when it talks about the black hole. my feeling has always been that it means the actual planet it resides on. though it could also just mean its consciousness I suppose

[dusty phoenix]

then someone just walks up to it? that's not exactly possible in those circumstances

[dusty phoenix]

i assume it means it's simulation of it's own world there yeah

[glass flare]

a possibly important point to me is that except for the first line of the logs, where it says "Atlas", which is how Atlas is always spelled in-game, the logs always use "The ATLAS" (all uppercase), which to me references the physical machine that its creators built. so to me when it talks about its own death, and the black hole causing it, it's the literal hardware being ripped apart. not a metaphorical black hole

[dusty phoenix]

you know, i've never actually noticed that

first thoughts on that are Atlas is used by people IN the simulation and ATLAS is used by people OUTSIDE

[glass flare]

i love language so I always notice dumb stuff like that haha, but I'm sure it was intentional

[dusty phoenix]

it's a good thing to love

the first line is narration dialogue from the traveller I think

[glass flare]

yeah. The ATLAS has a direct relationship with its creator

the in-game Atlas might just be a simulation the main ATLAS is running

[dusty phoenix]

I think it's like

yk google documents

how if someone else is viewing ur document the little circle with their pfp shows up

i think, basically, what we see in game is the little circle with their pfp

hmm. that may make actually zero sense never mind

[glass flare]

ATLAS could have decided, let's put myself in there as the manager of a simulation. like an AI mini-version of itself, with a subset of its memories and desires. like there's a startup I read about that's trying to build tech to create an AI version of yourself. actually I think that was the product of one of the fake companies in the Waking Titan ARG now that I mention it 🤔

[dusty phoenix]

idk if it's a secondary atlas conciousness but it's definitely the atlas's way to include itself

it doesn't make sense to me if there was two

I think Atlas vs ATLAS is simply Atlas the idea vs ATLAS the device

[glass flare]

well it's the whole idea of simulation theory.. if you simulate the universe, then you're going to eventually simulate yourself simulating the universe, and it's turtles all the way down

[dusty phoenix]

we know it's doing that already though. In a seperate simulation, how it's seeing it's future.

[glass flare]

within the story narrative, sure it doesn't really matter so much

[dusty phoenix]

there's a few bunch of simulations at once and I think the one intentionally simulating it's own operates on different rules

whereas the NMS universes are unique to it's own creation

[glass flare]

yeah the NMS universe is definitely not meant to be a 1:1 simulation of the universe that ATLAS resides in. the three races are likely just metaphorical placeholders to see how different societal forces can drive conflict and change. that was perhaps what Atlas was designed to do before it got outdated and eventually abandoned

[dusty phoenix]

that's basically it yeah

second log, the creation

though originally there were way, way more sentient races

over time and with the device deteriorating (hey that's a point for me I didn't think of) new simulations would feature less and less until just 3 would remain in the cycle (Korvax, Gek, And Vy'keen. Autophage don't count because they're like. Korvax prequels?)

same history would repeat every time the simulation restarts

gek go murder and slavery mode, vykeen sentinel war, korvax prime destroyed, repeat

not in that order ofc

yk i looked at the logs again and it mentions a "KORVA" studdering

i researched that word and uh

nothing useful. let's go with that

[oak rune]

Okay so I need a decision I need help making decision this is about the reset

Which system should I go to now

[quaint mason]

i will tell the differences in a sec

[fiery patio]

lush lush lush !!!

[oak rune]

This is my first time I don't know what any of the systems are called

[quaint mason]

@oak rune blue = empty galaxy; 4x dead planets (note that half of dead also become weird so lots of those), less lush planets. cyan = normal; same spawn chances as euclid (the starter galaxy). red = harsh; more extreme weather and aggressive sentinels. green = lush; 4x as many lushes, half as many deads

[dusty phoenix]

you can always go to another galaxy and return to this one later so don't worry too hard. lush IS the best though

[quaint mason]

yeah i agree

[fiery patio]

yes, eissentam is the best !

[oak rune]

So green?

[dusty phoenix]

yea

[fiery patio]

yes

[quaint mason]

tbf though

eissentam has a featured base

so you can go there without the orb thing

[dusty phoenix]

you'll find everything you need or want in every galaxy but have better luck in some than others

[quaint mason]

idk if there is a featured for a harsh and empty

[oak rune]

Okay I made my decision and I have begun the recent

[dusty phoenix]

I gotta go through a pilgrimage to eissentam eventually. I chose not to reset the simulation so I've got the ... scenic route

9 warps to the galaxy core and ADHD getting me distracted at every step of the way

i could just visit the base but where's the fun in that

[quaint mason]

if you dont want to you can just go there from the space anomaly

fair

[dusty phoenix]

Road to Eissentam! It's a pilgrimage! It's the journey, not the destination!

[oak rune]

I can see the stars getting fewer and fewer

Oh no I forgot to switch my mult tool

[fiery patio]

uh oh !

[quaint mason]

rip

[oak rune]

Well at least the materials aren't expensive

[dusty phoenix]

I felt bad about doing the reset in my noob playthrough like. I just killed a whole bunch of people?? Once I realized that I decided to never do it again

Rusty has only commited ONE mass murder

[quaint mason]

sometimes i dont switch to bad stuff and package because fixing all the stuff is kinda fun it makes me have to explore and stuff (even though i already do a lot)

[oak rune]

Begin a new beginning

[fiery patio]

euclid was mid

[oak rune]

So that's a system I was before Euclid

[dusty phoenix]

yup

there's 255 accessible (256 with save editing/visiting someone there but that doesn't count)

Euclid is a normal galaxy. Baseline for the multipliers

[fiery patio]

best part is the eissentam core has many unexplored worlds to be discovered

[dusty phoenix]

I hang out there for now and I'm quite cool with euclid

Taken for granted methinks

[glass flare]

so does Euclid. many many millions of worlds

[rancid nimbus]

I've been hanging in isdoraijung last system I was in today had 3 paradise in it.

That system is crazy for nice planets

[knotty surge]

I named the gas giant I made “The Great Fart Cloud”.
I am so immature.

[native carbon]

look out! a reaper leviathan will devour you for cringe

[cloud jolt]

@sick coyote
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<:info:850810445577453658> Which orb do I pick?

• This decision will damage everything that's still installed in Exosuit, active Ship and Multi-tool tech inventories (exception: exosuit core techs e.g. Life Support).

• Each of the 4 orbs represent 1 of 4 galaxy types in the game, and while this decision can't be repeated in the current save, it's easy enough to reach galaxies of other types later.

• Orb and associated type:

  • Teal/Norm (Euclid, the starter galaxy is Norm, the base weighting for biome spawns)
  • Red/Harsh (More extreme survival planets)
  • Blue/Empty (More dead and weird biome planets)
  • Green/Lush (More lush biome planets)

• If the player is still in Euclid at this point, then:

  • Teal leads to Hilbert Dimension (2);
  • Red leads to Calypso (3);
  • Blue leads to Budullangr (7);
  • Green leads to Eissentam (10).

• Space Anomaly teleporter is often an easy way to reach other galaxy types later; it's not uncommon for there to be a Featured Base in Eissentam.
  

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[unkempt fossil]

I am at the end of the atlas quest line, if I choose to purge will I still be able to go back to my bases and my old galaxy or will everything be gone?

[quaint mason]

nothing is lost, just all installed tech is damaged. to avoid this you can package all your exosuit tech and swap to a multitool you dont mind getting damaged. if you haven't entered the final portal yet you can also swap ships. id also advise making a base somewhere in the new galaxy so that you can return if you leave back to euclid.

[unkempt fossil]

I have a spare ship and multitool, planning to uninstall suit things. and make a base as soon as I can on the new place. But after all that I can still go home, and to my freighter and settlement?

Will the things I store in my inventory of my suit also be broken?

[quaint mason]

yep, you can warp to any base or space station in euclid with no consequences

[quaint mason]

all items are safe, just technology is affected

[unkempt fossil]

thanks, I had been staring at that decision screen for 20 minutes haha

One more question if I may, Once I enter the portal, i go to another planet for the countdown from 16 to 0. When i tried that I really liked something I saw on that planet

you think I can build a base in 16 seconds?

including a portal there?

[quaint mason]

im not sure, iirc that sequence disables some gui elements. but if you can build then yeah, you could plop down a computer and quickly claim it

[unkempt fossil]

It gave me a housing item, i think it was called stacked bubbles or something similar

[quaint mason]

teleporters arent necessary for a base to be able to be teleported to, its just an interface that lets you teleport to bases/space stations from the base

[unkempt fossil]

oh! didnt know that, so just pop a computer down and claim the base?

now hope that the second time around it gives me the same planet 🙂

[normal lantern]

thankksss

[oak rune]

Oh yeah atlantideum is totally safe to use on a station core

Turns out what it was safe

[cloud jolt]

@mossy barn
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<:info:850810445577453658> Which orb do I pick?

• This decision will damage everything that's still installed in Exosuit, active Ship and Multi-tool tech inventories (exception: exosuit core techs e.g. Life Support).

• Each of the 4 orbs represent 1 of 4 galaxy types in the game, and while this decision can't be repeated in the current save, it's easy enough to reach galaxies of other types later.

• Orb and associated type:

  • Teal/Norm (Euclid, the starter galaxy is Norm, the base weighting for biome spawns)
  • Red/Harsh (More extreme survival planets)
  • Blue/Empty (More dead and weird biome planets)
  • Green/Lush (More lush biome planets)

• If the player is still in Euclid at this point, then:

  • Teal leads to Hilbert Dimension (2);
  • Red leads to Calypso (3);
  • Blue leads to Budullangr (7);
  • Green leads to Eissentam (10).

• Space Anomaly teleporter is often an easy way to reach other galaxy types later; it's not uncommon for there to be a Featured Base in Eissentam.
  

Shared by: bkay201 Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[prime inlet]

if you pick reset simulation ^

[mossy barn]

will my gear break_

?

oh yeah

it will

[quiet arch]

Holy shit it's counting down

My heart just hit my stomach when I saw the numbers

[cloud jolt]

@unreal latch
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<:info:850810445577453658> Do I really have to travel to the center of the galaxy?

A: Despite what its objective says, no. The Purge simply requires the player to warp 16 times in any direction, to any system. Please wait for the mission to acknowledge progress on HUD before warping out again. Each warp teaches 1 portal glyph, if the player hasn't learned any yet.

❗ Warning: After the 16th warp, it is recommended to take a moment to store installed tech/modules on exosuit, active ship and multit-tool tech inventories (or swap to secondary ship and multi-tool you don't care about, only do it for exosuit).

Note: If the player hasn't completed The Atlas Path yet in this save, it is suggested to do so now, since The Purge will keep registering progress even if it's not the selected mission.

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[unreal latch]

what happens if i dont change ship

[prime inlet]

and don't store tech/modules either? something like this, but to your primary ship

[cloud jolt]

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<:info:850810445577453658> Storing aka Packaging installed tech/modules

Cursor over an installed tech or module, then press "Store Technology".

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[lofty fable]

any new leaks since WP2

[quiet arch]

How do I find my old ship?

Aka my damaged ship

Nvm found it

I wonder how many times our characters discover of "16" happened.

Korvax #1: eheu, did you receive that transmission?
Korvax #2: eheu! tries to laugh but it corrupts and they both keep to themselves until it happens again tomorrow

[unreal latch]

does any of the choices have any impact in the end ?

[cloud jolt]

@unreal latch
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<:info:850810445577453658> Which orb do I pick?

• This decision will damage everything that's still installed in Exosuit, active Ship and Multi-tool tech inventories (exception: exosuit core techs e.g. Life Support).

• Each of the 4 orbs represent 1 of 4 galaxy types in the game, and while this decision can't be repeated in the current save, it's easy enough to reach galaxies of other types later.

• Orb and associated type:

  • Teal/Norm (Euclid, the starter galaxy is Norm, the base weighting for biome spawns)
  • Red/Harsh (More extreme survival planets)
  • Blue/Empty (More dead and weird biome planets)
  • Green/Lush (More lush biome planets)

• If the player is still in Euclid at this point, then:

  • Teal leads to Hilbert Dimension (2);
  • Red leads to Calypso (3);
  • Blue leads to Budullangr (7);
  • Green leads to Eissentam (10).

• Space Anomaly teleporter is often an easy way to reach other galaxy types later; it's not uncommon for there to be a Featured Base in Eissentam.
  

Shared by: bkay201 Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[prime inlet]

see that post

[unreal latch]

i chose the refuse option it doesnt give me option to choose orb now

[prime inlet]

this is a once per save choice, but there's still lots of ways to visit other galaxies; and you still completed the main storyline anyway.

[compact coyote]

Remeber that small NMS arg thing in 2023? I remember it was gonna be like 4 parts. What happened with the 4th

[rancid flax]

i have also been wondering

[sour fossil]

couple of interesting finds from game files, datamined content warning

HG is doing some work with the starship fabrication mechanic, they added a 5th slot to fabricator UI page

Before WP2 the UI file controlling this page / screen had 4 item slots hardcoded, now there are 5

We don't see the 5th slot displayed in game because none of ships we currently have require this additional slot to be active (only cockpit, wings, engine and reactor module)

I noticed it only because I have a mod that introduces simplified Sentinel starship fabrication procedure and like all mods it became outdated with WP2, I got around to updating it now and noticed it doesn't work properly because I tried to add already existing slot #5

... or maybe it ain't related to starships at all

Because there is one more interesting change I've noticed

All the existing fabrication mechanics are controlled by one file called Modular Customisation Data Table. It has sections for stuff that can be assembled (staves, fighters, haulers, etc), what kinda slots there are for each (cockpit, wings, engines, etc) and which parts go into these slots (long nose cockpit, gull wings, box thruster, etc)

And now HG added this logic to each and every slot

<Property name="CreatureDiet" value="GcCreatureDiet">
  <Property name="Diet" value="Herbivore" />
</Property>

So the question arises, what the heck does creature diet mode has to do with starship fabrication or Autophage staves assembly?

my theory is that it's related to this "fossil builder" thingy BomberBoi found: #nms-spoilers message

It's another UI related file so it doesnt offer much on its own

So the actual functionality will be added to Modular...Table and the fossil builder will take info from there

[analog breach]

Ship fabrication and diet? .... Living ship fabrication 😆

Whole Community agrees that LS need a refresh. So maaaaaaaaybe that are some first steps in that direction. This can also be something totaly unrelated.

[sour fossil]

It could be, this is all pure conjecture based off a couple of new lines in game files

Though these files are so out of place one can't help but wonder

[analog breach]

Other thing that comes to my mind about " creature diet " is farming related stuff. Normaly no animal needs "diet" all will eat pelets. Its just bc i kinda want farming sim kinda update. So everyone can see from the vauge files lines what they want really 😆

[potent gorge]

Question: is this (https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1iq4gkh/how_to_get_both_the_star_seed_and_mark_of_the/) still in the game?

[ebon spoke]

To expand on this, the allowed values for the GcCreatureDiet component are as follows:
Carnivore, Omnivore, Herbivore and Robot.
I'm pretty sure this exact component is used in the creature list files somewhere, it determines which consumables a creature will accept to be tamed or whatever

[sour fossil]

I thought it would influence whether an animal is a predator and what other animal types it would hunt for

Robots just living off solar energy or built in nuclear reactors lmao

[zenith perch]

Some corvette thing was found in the game files apparently.

[zenith perch]

Here's a remember something

Remember the atlas pass v4 they seemingly never gave out?

Bit of an old thing I'm responding to here but its not technically creating systems, its just selecting one that fits the parameters you selected.

Also purple systems existing is good for the game overall because it increases variety without ruining what already exists.

[surreal wasp]

ok so im playing the story rn and doing the purge, am i just supposed to go to the middle? i feel that would take ages

[zenith perch]

You need to finish the purge and the atlas path to finish the main story stuff

Atlas path requires 50 milestones completed to build all the stuff

[surreal wasp]

Fuuuu that soooo much

How do I complete purge? I just keep jumping till i get to the middle?

[analog breach]

!faq-artemispath

[cloud jolt]

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<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> **Artemis Path Missions**

The main storyline The Artemis Path is composed of these missions:

1. Awakenings
2. Alone Amidst the Stars
3. Ghosts in the Machine (requires progression in Expanding the Base, a secondary quest)
4. A Leap in the Dark
5. The First Traveller
6. Patterns in Time
7. 16 / 16
8. The Purge - 16 warps in any direction. It does not require travelling to the core.
9. New Beginnings - Like the Space Anomaly mission, this will forever remain in your Log tab (even after this quest's completion).

Do not reuse portals found via the storyline to prevent bugs.

❓ For in-depth questions about these missions, ask in #nms-spoilers, or in #nms-questions with spoiler tags -- run !SpoilerTag in #bot-spam for help.

📖 Did you know? The Atlas Path and The Purge mission can be completed in tandem.

📚 Contributor: bkay201

[torpid knoll]

How likely is it to find two dissonant detected planets in the same system?..

[analog breach]

Not common but Its possible.

[torpid knoll]

I found one..

that means two different interceptors..

nvm, they're the same

[analog breach]

1 model per system

[torpid knoll]

yea...

[vernal ibex]

@exotic vortex Sentinal Attacking anymore who is harvesting or exploting a planet due to the trama of the First Spawns

[exotic vortex]

mhm

makes sense

[vernal ibex]

During the Ancient times, When the First Spawn the first Gek's came up, they were endlessly devouring all planets in the universe. the Sentinals were working with the first korvaxs and had a symbiotic relationship

[exotic vortex]

mhm

[vernal ibex]

but when the First Spawn began, they were basically devouring worlds and korvax like candy

for all the resources

and that was on repeat across infinitity

and the sentinals who worked for atlas they are all linked into a hive mind acrossed infinitity

[exotic vortex]

so they work in the best interest of a planet

thats a shame

i was hoping for a sentinel swarm eradicating an entire species native to its own planet just because it had a diet of gravitino balls

those things are strangely sensitive about those balls

[fiery briar]

Worm cultists?

i got an item "wormskin folio1"

living scroll. Worm cultists.

i cant not think about that now

someone looked at a worm and went. yeah. the perfect lifeform.

Worm cultists.

[analog breach]

Remains from expedition 4. Baisicaly big dune reference. Expedition had place near film premiere time.

[dull verge]

More than that, they aren't just big worms. There's something up with them. Boundary failures on infested worlds. Infested flora similar to void eggs/living ships. Worms capable of interstellar travel. Asteroid larvae. Abyssal horrors. Some unknown connection to the biological horrors. There's a lot there, but the Vy'keen worm cults essentially revere the titan worms as extensions of the Atlas itself.

[fiery briar]

not sure if this is a spoiler but is there any use for the vile spawn egg looking thing you get off of the hungering mouth worm thingies on hive worlds

[dusty phoenix]

You can refine them into nanites

1:50

[vernal ibex]

@quaint badge The Void Mother, is basically a version of Atlas that was created in the simulation, and was the "leader" of the Korvax back on Korvax Prime. she goes by many names, one is the Void Mother. and she is a focal point with Autophage stuff

[quaint badge]

oh, alright

so it’s basically like a second atlas i guess..?

[vernal ibex]

the crazy part, is you know all the 16 stuff with Atlas meaning theres 16 mins before Atlas is ate by the Black Hole in the real world

The Void Mother, spoke to Atlas about the number 19

leading us to theroize the she knows of that to come 3 mins after atlas is consumed by the Black hole

[quaint badge]

so 3 minutes have already passed?

oh

[vernal ibex]

its interesting !

Why im commiting to the faithful of the Void Mother bit XD

some others do like the Worm Gods

[quaint badge]

im not sure if hg had all of this lore planned or they have just made it up and turned the bad release into this whole entire simulation thjng

[vernal ibex]

no idea either, but i would like to think the lore. goes deeper then the Simulation, because they have built a whole world outside it. earth exisited, Atlas was built on Earth as far as we can guess, humanity left Atlas on Earth, as the black hole grew

but even modern science doesn't 100% know what Black holes are capable of, if like Atlas thinks and black holes work like a wormhole and teleports it across the galaxy, that means Atlas could survive the event horizen

[quaint badge]

yeah, but in the lore atlas’ creator will come back last minute im pretty sure

[crimson zephyr]

I just got to the end of the Artemis storyline and I'm confused and ok with spoilers what would the best choice be?,

Ps- Apologies I'm new to the game and dont know basically anything.

[analog breach]

!faq-artemispath

[cloud jolt]

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<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> **Artemis Path Missions**

The main storyline The Artemis Path is composed of these missions:

1. Awakenings
2. Alone Amidst the Stars
3. Ghosts in the Machine (requires progression in Expanding the Base, a secondary quest)
4. A Leap in the Dark
5. The First Traveller
6. Patterns in Time
7. 16 / 16
8. The Purge - 16 warps in any direction. It does not require travelling to the core.
9. New Beginnings - Like the Space Anomaly mission, this will forever remain in your Log tab (even after this quest's completion).

Do not reuse portals found via the storyline to prevent bugs.

❓ For in-depth questions about these missions, ask in #nms-spoilers, or in #nms-questions with spoiler tags -- run !SpoilerTag in #bot-spam for help.

📖 Did you know? The Atlas Path and The Purge mission can be completed in tandem.

📚 Contributor: bkay201

[analog breach]

What choice are u on?

[crimson zephyr]

To reset or to not

And idk whice would be best

[analog breach]

Reseting gives option to chose between 4 types of galaxies, lush , dead, harsh and normal. Diffrence between them is planet biome spawn chances, lush -more lush planets, harsh gives more extreme planets etc. If u not reset the quest will end and u can go back exploring.

U can reach the 4 galaxies anyways eventualy by going through galaxy core

So choice dont impact much

[crimson zephyr]

Oh, Ok thank you.

[cloud jolt]

@placid cedar
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<:info:850810445577453658> Do I really have to travel to the center of the galaxy?

A: Despite what its objective says, no. The Purge simply requires the player to warp 16 times in any direction, to any system. Please wait for the mission to acknowledge progress on HUD before warping out again. Each warp teaches 1 portal glyph, if the player hasn't learned any yet.

❗ Warning: After the 16th warp, it is recommended to take a moment to store installed tech/modules on exosuit, active ship and multit-tool tech inventories (or swap to secondary ship and multi-tool you don't care about, only do it for exosuit).

Note: If the player hasn't completed The Atlas Path yet in this save, it is suggested to do so now, since The Purge will keep registering progress even if it's not the selected mission.

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@placid cedar and how to store installed tech/modules
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<:info:850810445577453658> Storing aka Packaging installed tech/modules

Cursor over an installed tech or module, then press "Store Technology".

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[placid cedar]

Do I have to complete the atlas path before the purge code reaches 16?

[prime inlet]

nope, not necessarily

[placid cedar]

Oh good

[prime inlet]

that said, if you're running the living ship quest atm, you'll want to hold off on going through the purge's marked portal because of a bug

[placid cedar]

I am not at the living ship mission yet 🙂

[tame aspen]

rq- was it wrong of me to release artemis instead of putting her in the simulation?
honestly id rather be dead than be stuck in a simulation where nothing is real, your interactions are fake, none of your friends are actually your friends, and everything is off

[pliant onyx]

You do you is only a game

[vernal ibex]

@lofty cargo you get them from using Void Motes after unlokcing the autophage stuff

[lofty cargo]

can you explain further?

[vernal ibex]

sure can

once you complete the 2 routes of the story, the Atlas path and the Center. you'll unlock the autophage stuff. there will be 2 quest lines for them, one unlocks the staff and the autopahge camps and one that unlock that Atlandid drive and purple star systems

by talking to autophages you can give them gifts for rep, and you can do missions for more rep and void motes

void motes are unique currency to the autophages

you can use to purchase all the outfit pieces and staff parts

[lofty cargo]

ohh

okay

got it

thank you

[shut sparrow]

Do y'all think that Autophage's might have to like... grease their gears since they have more industrial bodies?

Or maybe they gotta make more frquent repairs and stuff?

[placid cedar]

I'm on the Atlas Path, I've been submitting so far at each Atlas interface. What happens if I refuse?

[analog breach]

!faq-atlaspath

[cloud jolt]

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<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> The Atlas Path

The Atlas Path objective is to visit Atlas Stations and learn the 10 Atlas Seed blueprints. Once a blueprint has been learned, the mission will task you with progressing on to the next Atlas Station.

To unlock all the blueprints, you must have reached Magellan rank by completing 50 Journey Milestones. Check your milestone progress and rank in your Catalog & Guide.

The Atlas Path can be progressed in tandem with the main story mission titled The Purge. Type !faq-artemispath in #bot-spam for more details.

Craft the last seed, Heart of the Sun, after unlocking it. For a list of resources you'll need, see image »

Depending on the choice made at the 11th (final) Atlas Station, you will either learn the Star Seed or the Mark of the Denier exosuit technology blueprint. An endless mission titled Atlas Eternal will then be available, rewarding 1 Atlas word, and approximately 600 nanites with each additional interaction.

Known issues:

• Leaving the final Atlas Interface system to get resources for crafting Heart of the Sun can lead to bugs. We strongly recommend that you craft Heart of the Sun before entering the last Atlas station.
• You may end up with two Atlas Eternal missions in your Log if you unlocked Mark of the Denier.

Contributors: Atlas Emissaries

[pliant aurora]

new bone emoji

[placid cedar]

Thanks! I'm thinking I shouldn't create a new sun. That resetting the simulation is pointless if it keeps needing to be purged.

afaik creating a star is not the "good" option

[analog breach]

There is no good or bad option. Both choices are canon.

[placid cedar]

Because it's a simulation and nothing is real? 😛

[gloomy isle]

Ooo it's that dinosaur bones update that got datamined a while back

[placid cedar]

What do I need to do to change to a new galaxy?

Purge the simulation? Or ask the Atlas to take me somewhere?

[late edge]

I never saw the data mine. What was showcased?

[placid cedar]

Do I have to purge the simulation to go to a new galaxy?

[hasty karma]

no you travel to the galactic core

!faq-corewarp

[cloud jolt]

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<:atlasnmscord:1269532093076078658> **Galactic Core Warp**

• How to reach the Galactic Core via Portals in any galaxy »
• How to warp to the Galactic Core in your ship »
• See infographic guide below or watch quick demo
• See list of galaxies. More Wiki info »

Contributors: Atlas Emissaries & uselessuk

[pliant aurora]

Some type of fossil builder

Check Bomberbois post history from around the beginning of February

[real sapphire]

#no-mans-sky message @teal zealot
Are you are the part where it ask you select alpha, beta and y payload?

[zenith perch]

Looks like it might be coming soon

[grizzled apex]

im a lil conflicted tbh, the emoji usually teases the name of the update, but the fossil builder would still make sense as a feature for whatever a 🦴 named update would be.

[analog breach]

The Humerus update 🤭 dry jokes , puns and dad jokes.

[glass flare]

oh I didn't even realize there was an emoji. yeah I'm guessing it's an expedition tied in with some fossil feature

[sour fossil]

Maybe HG will let us "build" our own diplos

Provide bones from diggin up, some DNA samples and random substances to randomize seed / properties

[ebon spoke]

My guess is 'buildable' pets created by splicing dna from fossils or something. Basically the equivalent of ship building but for companions, otherwise I don't see how it would be different enough from normal companion dna splicing

[sour fossil]

Yeah could be

Provide multiple bones for extracting DNA and mixing them

Could be why each input slot had a property for setting creature diet mode

[analog breach]

Jurrasic park update. Pet pens , self driveable exocrafts, trailer diplo .

[zenith perch]

Relic/Discovery?

[zenith perch]

If its an expedition I hope its more aquarius like where it comes with a feature update.

Part of me wants to believe the bone actually means civilization and its finally my long awaited settlement rework.

[dense quartz]

I dunno how I feel about them adding a new feature at this point. Honestly I'd rather they just improve what already exists.

I mean I'll still take it tho lol

[dense quartz]

Oh the current expedition ends next Tuesday so we could be getting the update as early as the 26th.

[analog breach]

For me it ends on wednesday

So technically exp can end and next update drop on same day.

Since updates drop on afternoon hours. 3pm-5pm

London time

[native carbon]

I may sound crazy saying that but in sure this is a tiny little update

Maybe like prehistoric themed expedition or smth

Or its WP3 /jk

[sour fossil]

Or it's the last chapter of Autophage story arc

Dead last so already died 💀

[frigid valley]

And posting a random link to a convo you had with an AI without any context whatsoever adds to the discussion in what way exactly?

@raw girder

[hasty karma]

damn they deleted the message

[tame grotto]

Per the pinned rules

[hasty karma]

yeah I get that, just wanted to see what it was

it's no biggie tho, doubt it was anything meaningful

[tame grotto]

Oh fair point. They can probably DM it. You can see it here where I reposted it. A much more fitting thread with anything AI: #960001745247928361 message

[hasty karma]

ah thanks

[teal zealot]

Bro how do I deactivate activated quartzite

[hasty karma]

put it an a refiner with carbon

[analog breach]

I wonder if the unique pure gold fossil from cursed exp will be mentioned in any way in new update.

[gloomy isle]

I really hope it's another way to keep mementos from planets

Like, assemble a proc gen skeleton out of fossils

Keep it on display or sell for QS or something

[clever topaz]

Dude, I just got the biggest lore drop in my life

Now I know why the Gek also worship the Atlas..

The Korvax..

They sabotaged them

Their nanite blood mingled with the unborn

And as it did, it’s slowly coming into my head on why the First Spawn were abolished

And how the Echoes did as well

The Korvax and Gek are two sides of the same coin, the Vy’keen being an outlier

The Vy’keen watching it all in disgust

Watching, observing, taking it in

There is no true end to it all, the conflicts

It’s weaved into the fabrics of each reality, and I realize why it happens everytime the Atlas attempts to purge it

Remove one thread..

And the rest of it falls apart, slowly…

Bit by bit…

It all unravels…

And you have to start again

[gloomy isle]

From what thatbomberboi posted I'm like 99% sure it's a fossil/ dinosaur exhibit mechanic

I'm imagining it's like, a planet may have a couple of extinct proc gen dinosaur types, and we paleontology and collect the pieces

Then we assemble them into an exhibit we can put on display

[runic mesa]

I remember the fossil build datamine. But wasn't there also some unused placeholder in the Wonders log that was quickly removed?

[gloomy isle]

I think so 🤔 if it's more stuff similar to wonder projectors that would be amazing

Proc gen collectibles etc so you can create exhibits and stuff for planets

[analog breach]

Update name prediction: primal

[runic mesa]

I mean, Sean could be trolling us again. Update name: bon appetit. 😛

[analog breach]

Update names are always 1 word

[sour fossil]

uhhh

Next Generation

Atlas Rises

[analog breach]

Feom what i remember it was just named next

[analog breach]

Gawddamit. 😆

[sour fossil]

Next and Next Gen were 2 separate updates

Next was pre Beyond

Next Gen was 3.something

[ebon spoke]

The Fishing Update

[analog breach]

Fishing update was named aquarius

[ebon spoke]

yeah, it was called The Fishing Update on the Xbox news page when it leaked a few hours early though lol

[zenith perch]

The Vy'keen just look angry constantly

Yall

What if the update is actually adding those skeletons from the lnf trailer

or something more out there speculation wise

Necromancy

I just hope this isn't expedition only update, i hate them doing that

[gloomy isle]

Prediction: Digsite

Or Paleontology

[fluid valley]

Any leak of something about this futur update ?

[fervent ivy]

🦴

[fluid valley]

👀 aaaaaaand

[gloomy isle]

This

Looks to be digging up fossils and making displays etc

[zenith perch]

Poi expansion idk

[fluid valley]

Oooooooooh

[zenith perch]

The real fossil is settlements

[fluid valley]

Not what i wanted but can be very intersting

[zenith perch]

not confirmed to not be an expedition btw

[analog breach]

And base building

[gloomy isle]

I've wanted more stuff to collect and display from planets for a while

[zenith perch]

Frontiers broke it I heard

[fluid valley]

Museum soon

[gloomy isle]

100% this, proc gen souvenirs all the way lol

My freighter will be a mobile dinosaur exhibit

[analog breach]

No. Its underfeatured from the start. No basic things like undo button?

[fluid valley]

Watch me make Jurassic park

[zenith perch]

I will be ecstatic if they finally update em

how long was the emoji to wp2 coming out btw

[analog breach]

Meanwhile in 2008 in far cry 2 u had undo/reundo button, group marking parts to copy/paste/move in 2d or 3d /delete/snap

[zenith perch]

I want procgen questboard

Sorta like how sdv does it

[analog breach]

Emoji was 22-23jan

Release and Trailer 29jan

[grizzled apex]

there's been an expedition queued up serverside for a while, I have a feeling this might be an Aquarius style update. A new archaeology mechanic + an expedition themed around it.

[analog breach]

I also expect smaller update. Bc wp2 already has enough bugs still not fixed as it is. No need to add fuel to the fire.

[gloomy isle]

I'm thinking it'll be all based around bones, but wouldn't it be cool if other artefacts got the same treatment

Like imagine piecing together some sort of proc gen trinket then keeping it on display

Could even show the planet name/ glyphs on a plaque

[glass flare]

i think the bones stuff in the game right now is quite boring so for me it would have to be a pretty big overhaul to be interesting

[gloomy isle]

From the UI it seems like it might be a placable fossil skeleton

[uncut harness]

What’s sdv?

[zenith perch]

As long as it's not just an expedition

[zenith perch]

Stardew Valley

It has a questboard in town which changes your reputation with the villagers. HG could do something like that for settlements.

[grizzled apex]

I can't see how existing archaeology/ paleontology would be interesting enough to have an expedition themed around it, so hopefully not

[sterile drum]

reading into this, what if you could bring them back to life as pets?

sounds like that pokemon mechanic lol

[analog breach]

Im more intrested in adding things other than charging glyphs to portal mechanic. Fossil could be just placeholder item.

[gloomy isle]

Tbf the UI also says "exhibit assembly"

I'd guess that the actual feature won't have anything to do with portals

[grizzled apex]

oh, its got absolutely nothing to do w/ portals, I've just been replacing the rune entry UI w/ any unused UIs outta habit to get a look haha.

[safe quarry]

I agree, I think if this is just additive to what we have now then it would be a bit underwhelming. I'd hope at least for some new POI's like maybe ancient burial sites, or giant skeletal remains, that would at least make planet exploration more interesting. My biggest hope would be a refresh of ruins if its archaeology more broadly, but that might be asking a bit much of what will probably be an Aquarius sized update if it isn't just another expedition.

It's interesting it specifically calls them Dinos, but is that maybe a placeholder internal name for the exhibitions?

[grizzled apex]

oh hey, the next expedition got its start date set: <t:1742997600>

[safe quarry]

does that mean its likely to just be an expedition?

[grizzled apex]

it just means theres an expedition. Id wager we'll get some content with it too, but this doesnt really confirm nor deny that theory

[safe quarry]

okay! I couldn't remember if the aquarius one dropped alongside the content or not.

[grizzled apex]

Aquarius included the entire fishing mechanic + the expedition. The Cursed was expedition only, but its boss battle later made it into the main game, and it was a pretty unique expedition mechanics wise tbf

[safe quarry]

Yes i liked the Cursed expedition ^.^ I am hoping for content and expedition rather than just a teaser like Cursed felt like it was. Then again I think we have been pretty spoiled with updates lately so I will be happy with either!

Worlds Part 2 felt on a par with what we normally get in the summer update.

[gloomy isle]

If it's all about Dino bones, I really hope they're procedural per planet when you put them together. Imagine if it tells you where it's from on a little plaque too

[safe quarry]

If it's content with an expedition, then they definitely reckon its meaty enough to hold up an entire expedition! Something like aquarius

[grizzled apex]

I'm still confident we'll see something related to those boundary horrors and those creatures and new portal lore at some point, but I'm not sure when. I'm hoping we see more of the Void Mother arc this year since In Stellar Multitudes looks like it was split of from a larger questline in the works, but who knows w/ HG

[grizzled apex]

Wonder if Xbox is gonna leak the update again like aquarius haha

[gloomy isle]

I'd bet it'll all come to a head next year for the 10th anniversary

[safe quarry]

Yes, i've fought the jellyfish boss outside of cursed by releasing the child of aquarius, and i can't remember if the little ghost squids were part of the fight because it died so quickly! But if not, those and the weird time dilation mechanic would be great to see come back into the game with some more void mother stuff

I still have a sneaky suspicion that the void mother is going to be a lead into LNF. like her waking dream is fantastical whereas the atlas has been about dreaming up a galaxy (i'm sure that's safe to say in the spoiler channel!)

meaning the hand we see reaching out of the ground in the LNF trailers could be the void mother.

a dream within a dream

[grizzled apex]

I'm not sure I can wait that long anymore, they've been edging us to an exposition for so long lol

[gloomy isle]

That would be cool. Since the simulation seems to work on inception style time dilation, one way to avoid the end could be to go deeper and deeper into layers of the simulation

[safe quarry]

The realm of glass could also be a reference to our computer screens, i mean its not the first time the story has been quite meta, with Waking Titan.

[gloomy isle]

1 min in the Atlas simulation could be centuries for the void mother's

[grizzled apex]

I believe it did spawn the small land squids, but those might have different attack aggression just because the elixer hazards dont exist outside of the expedition. They made a full hardcoded hazard type for it in the files though, so I'm very confident they'll reuse it eventually

[safe quarry]

Exactly!

I think there will definitely be a thematic tie between the two. and it would justify updates to both in tandem

one affecting the other

[gloomy isle]

Yeah it's been going on ages now 😂 even if the P2 quest was short it really gave the impression that it's getting serious

[safe quarry]

and for people who just want a fantasy game, those elements could be deeply hidden or themed more 'fantastical' in the context of LNF. but to us we'll know its inside the bigger simulation

[grizzled apex]

Meta's definitely underselling it. Telamon mentions how they know when the player saves and "seals them away" in a darkness when we aren't playing the game. I'm still not sure if they're gonna work our roles as players into the story though, maybe with the Void Mother's plan?

[gloomy isle]

The purple system lore is pretty meta in a similar way it seems

[safe quarry]

maybe! that would be interesting to keep breaking the fourth wall.

Waking Titan was so good, i still have my atlas pass 4 on my shelf ❤️

[gloomy isle]

From the way it's done in the quest, it's like they're a canon explanation for phantom systems

Which is funny because they actually were phantom systems before this lol

[gloomy isle]

I wish I was lucky enough to get one 😭

[grizzled apex]

I went over They Who Returned again recently, and was kinda surprised to see them mention the whole stellar manifestation thing there back in 2023. It really feels like they've had this stuff worked out for ages but are still working on making all the technicalities work

[safe quarry]

I am glad they kept some of the phantom systems back! feels like never saying never to them adding even more down the line. They're at least leaving the option there just in case.

[safe quarry]

😮 I didn't realise we got a hint all the way back then!

[grizzled apex]

I feel like some of The Cursed's lore also hinted at this to a lesser extent so im curious where theyre headed. Hell they brought up Artemis during that expedition and the danger of portals collapsing, which really makes me wonder if they're taking their lore consistency serious now haha

[safe quarry]

Gives me faith this is all planned out and not being invented as they go along 🤣

[grizzled apex]

Man I really miss WT... I got sucked into the Kryptos code rabbit hole recently and couldnt stop remembering Waking Titan. Really hope HG gives us another Singularity esque expedition, but with more obscure and out of game clues

[safe quarry]

The more we talk about it the more i am quietly confident that LNF will be tied to NMS. It's already a spiritual successor and lore theorists do so much work for their marketing that they would be silly not to capitalise and keep the story going between the two.

[gloomy isle]

For sure. Since then, I've been under the impression that they've taken some time to maybe make it bigger than they'd originally planned too

[grizzled apex]

I was taken aback honestly! I'm guessing we're now waiting for her rebirth and proper appearance, which seems more imminent than ever, what with her directly speaking to us for the first time (if you discount Omega)

[gloomy isle]

Worlds part 2 kinda pushes it beyond the scale they originally said it'd be iirc

So the purple systems forming were her breaching into the simulation properly right?

From my understanding she's coalescing from the memories of these remade systems or something?

[safe quarry]

I am so glad to see this, i love it when lore is preplanned because then theorising doesn't feel like doing the heavy lifting for them. Knowing there's an answer is great ❤️

What's the earliest we've heard of the void mother? Would it coincide with them starting development on LNF? they said 6 years of development a year ago? or was it 5, i don't remember!

[grizzled apex]

I'll be honest, I kinda lost hope in them keeping track of a solid continous lore for a while 😅
Although with their recent consistency, and surprising attention towards modding (which they still don't officially support mind you), I'm starting to take Sean's word for when he ssaid "we're doing things that people in the community probably gave up hope on"

[safe quarry]

And your video on the building parts tied to starships gives me hope for a corvette style multi-crew ship which i had given up hope on

or ever being able to take the wheel of my freighter 💔

[grizzled apex]

Its also really cool seeing a prediction for a feature come in the form of lore since you can sorta go back and analyze to see what might be planned next. Iirc the last time they did this was to hint at full multiplayer between Atlas Rises and Next?

[sterile drum]

oh right, corvettes

[safe quarry]

Yes that's true, the little sparks

[sterile drum]

should be cool if they release it

[grizzled apex]

There actually were textures added for some type of ship labelled as a Corvette w/ Worlds Part II! I was convinced thats what we'd be getting this update, but it looks like the fossil builder beat it to release haha

[safe quarry]

really? that makes me so happy! It means its probably more than just an experiment to see if they can pull it off

[gloomy isle]

I wonder if corvettes will be the summer update, or if it'll be next after the paleo stuff 🤔

They're kinda a perfect fit now since there's so much variety

Galactic motorhome

[safe quarry]

The only challenge with corvettes would be synchronisation between players, i wouldn't want to be ejected into space if someone crashes or desynchs! and also landing, but you could do that by having a corvette 'land' in midair and teleport you the rest of the way.

like low orbit teleporter

[grizzled apex]

There's 0 evidence for it, but if theres another expedition after this next one, I feel like it might be another Lore Heavy one like The Cursed (Expedition 19), which might not be a good thematic fit for Corvettes

[grizzled apex]

There's hanger textures for Corvettes which makes me think you would'nt necessarily be able to land them, but things do change around in development

glares at freighter elevator

[safe quarry]

i mean if this is going to be an archaeology expedition, we may get some story beats about the voidmother and the autophage, pre autophage on korvax prime.

[safe quarry]

never say never! I wish that was in the game, stairs are so invasive to trying to build!

[grizzled apex]

I feel like update archaeology would be a good fit for the ruin planets, and in that sense it works as an Aquarius esque update. Something to complement a feature added w/ the previous large update.

[gloomy isle]

Aah yeah true

Bones - > expedition - > corvette maybe? 🤔

[safe quarry]

That's true. I thought ruined planets were a purple exclusive thing too but then i ran into one in a yellow system

at least i think it was a yellow system.

[gloomy isle]

But yeah, fossil hunting seems like a nice chill feature similar to fishing maybe

[safe quarry]

corvettes could be years away. we found out about the new stations almost a year ahead of them!

[gloomy isle]

Just something nice to do as a reason to spend time on a planet

[gloomy isle]

Yeah true tbf

[safe quarry]

And if we land on the corvettes through a hanger like bomberboi says, but maybe not necessarily land them on planets, then i feel they would need to be part of a bigger update to space. We would need things to explore in space that they would be useful for?

[sterile drum]

would this be tied to current relic treasures

[grizzled apex]

I think they left a few empty biome slots in WPI so they could add sub biomes w/o resetting every planet's biomes, so it might be possible. I don't remember the exact weightings for the ruin sub biomes though...

I'd honestly prefer if that was the case, having everything locked behind purple systems really rewards and incentivizes end-game content, but it also has the side effect of making non-purple systems kinda useless to warp to

[sterile drum]

since you can pick some bone stuff

[safe quarry]

oh yes i almost never go to anything but purple now. I missed the old terrain back in the day and this is the closest we have to that again. I love it

[gloomy isle]

Maybe, just maybe, they might add stuff to the station overseer 😂😂

[grizzled apex]

I wonder if all the engine upgrades they've been touting might make permanent space POIs finally a reality?

[safe quarry]

I found a snowy planet with lots of ravines that is just begging for a race track

[safe quarry]

I would LOVE this

[gloomy isle]

With how much better the purple systems are, it may as well have been a purple galaxy ngl

[safe quarry]

spawning them in always feels a bit like a 'cop out' but I've always felt they wanted to do something else with them.

[gloomy isle]

Especially since it rebalances all the spawn rates etc

[grizzled apex]

Oh they absolutely nailed the feeling of legacy worlds on Purple Systems. I swear even the fog and lighting on those feels more pathfinder-y than usual. And it makes thematic sense since these deleted worlds seem to come from a point in the timeline before the Anomaly Travellers started showing up

[safe quarry]

100% I was SO happy when purple systems got leaked in wp1 because i was certain that meant new terrain generation without affecting everyone's bases

[gloomy isle]

The sense of scale is bonkers too with the new terrain and giants

[safe quarry]

and i was happy to finally be right for once!

[grizzled apex]

Yea a lot of their newer approaches to to existing features feel like they're finally achieving the artistic goals they had for NMS on a technical level now which makes me really happy

[gloomy isle]

As an aside, do we actually know how the new terrain system works? Because I swear it's not just being picked from a list of templates anymore

Or at least it doesn't just use a single terrain style per planet

[grizzled apex]

I was really psyched when I got them spawning in WP1 and they seemed to override the phantom system they replaced since it looked like they were gonna get custom generation algorithms, which proved to be true

[safe quarry]

mhm. imagine if you could do a deep space scan and find the derelicts, asteroid fields, debris fields, and the anomalies out in fixed positions? Would make space feel less like the intermission between planets and more of the actual gameplay.

[grizzled apex]

There's still a list of terrain templates in the files. Internally in the exe though, it might be mixing things up a lil more?

[grizzled apex]

Its one of the parts of Elite Dangerous that I really enjoyed when I played it a while back. The planet gameplay's nothing to call home about compared to NMS, but it does a great job of making spcae feel real

On a side note, I wonder how HG would approach adding new biomes in LNF with a single planet. Alternate dimensions? Additional planets accessible via magic after completing XYZ storylines in game?

[safe quarry]

oh I hadn't thought of that. Yes if its a fixed planet thats a whole new challenge to adding biomes in the future

[gloomy isle]

Yeah from what I can tell it might be mixing them together similar to how it blends surface and ocean areas.

I've noticed instances of the same terrain type but for example it'll be plains I've seen before, but with mountains that weren't there before. Or similar mountains occurring at massively different densities etc

So it might be picking 2 or 3 then doing some masking stuff

[safe quarry]

well i am hoping we have a hub like the nexus, only a portal we walk through to some extra planar place. If they do that, then new planets with new frontiers would be an option?

[gloomy isle]

At least that's what I'd do to achieve something in blender, so that's not really applicable ig 😂

[sterile drum]

for LNF would expect some sort of dimensions for things like demon realm troope

[grizzled apex]

Thats what really excites me about LNF. Sure they're using the same terrain tech under the hood, but w/o having to simulate an entire solar system, its gonna be very technically different in terms of how it all works together most likely.

[safe quarry]

mhm! I mean how will they handle instancing for example? No solar systems to instance so as your walking along they will have to transition you into them?

phasing in and out of instances mebbe? only seemlessly under the hood as you're travelling?

[gloomy isle]

The new system is somehow so varied, there's been at least 3 terrains that I've seen only once and never again

[safe quarry]

like my snowy ravine planet! I've not seen one like that since.

[grizzled apex]

I wonder if they're gonna work in the discovery system from NMS, but for localized "chunks" we discover of the planet? It might work in tandem w/ player instancing. All in all, very different from what we've experienced w/ NMS

[safe quarry]

I've seen one with tall mountains interspersed with flat lands a few times. And one with archipeligos. But not that ravine one.

[sterile drum]

on a sidenote its also nice to lookback at LNF trailer and see so much backported to good old NMS

[gloomy isle]

There was one I found and it was like 99% plains and ponds, but there were really rare mountains

[safe quarry]

Yes I hope they keep the discovery system in some fashion. Maybe tie it to regions? The regions in NMS aren't used for much other than thematic and Save points. But in a singular world it could have a 'entering X region.'

[safe quarry]

I bet that was pretty!

[grizzled apex]

also I think I may have derailed the conversation from spoilers 😅

[gloomy isle]

I only found them because you could see patches without any lakes from space, there must have been like 30 max on the planet

[safe quarry]

i mean for all we know we are spoiling LNF! Maybe not NMS tho XD

[sterile drum]

heh nostredamus LNF

26 march would fit with the usual expedition week dates no

[gloomy isle]

It was, I wish I built there now 😂

[safe quarry]

It definitely feels most recently like they're being led by what the community has been asking for: gas giants, the old terrain, even waterfalls with the floating islands. I am hoping corvettes will solve two community wishes: Multi crew ships, and interiors we can walk in.

[safe quarry]

this is why i put down lonely little base computers on any planets i want to save!

I only have like maybe 5 bases, but maybe 40 'bases' listed in my teleporter!

[grizzled apex]

I wonder if its because they're preparing a final send off, or if they realized that some of the more requested features are something theyd genuinely like to work on now, since Sean's mentioned a few times that their main real "roadmap" for features is how many people actively want to work on them

[gloomy isle]

I don't see them stopping with content updates, even if it's just smaller ones like fishing etc.

That being said, if LNF does really well and they want to shift the bulk of their focus over, releasing a modding SDK for NMS would be a huge move

There's absolutely loads of niche changes and additions that people would love to see, so giving the community the tools to do that would be awesome

[grizzled apex]

With LNF running on the same engine, I doubt they'll give us tools to modify a game which could very likely also be used on their new poster child isnt something I see them doing, especially since the Skyscraper engine is proprietary. I'd kill for a proper NMS Scripting API, but I think thats one of the things we may never see, because of their in house engine.

[gloomy isle]

Aah yeah that's a good point, especially since NMS's engine probably isn't that different to the version of it LNF runs on atp

Though I guess it also depends on their stance towards modding etc in LNF

[dusty holly]

On all this talk on the new terrain, how much of this new terrain do you guys think we'll see in lnf? Like I'm definitely noticing some pre next stuff that im not sure would fit in lnf, for example the cool snakes.

[safe quarry]

That's what I was worried about, but I also thought that a few years ago when it seemed to be losing steam, but then orbit, Worlds part 1+2, proved me wrong. Sean did say around the announcement of LNF that they would like to keep doing the updates in tandem. I think it all really depends on where the audience goes. I am sure supporting LNF for another decade like NMS might get exhausting, but if the developers can jump between the two settings depending on which one takes their fancy, it will give both games good longevity.

And I think so long as developed concepts work across both games, they will port them. Like i bet they are holding back swords until LNF is out, can't give too much of LNF ahead of time so that you make it redundant. But once its out, i am sure NMS will get some form of the laser swords teased in lore.

[gloomy isle]

Iirc Sean said (maybe alongside HG's financials iirc) that they plan on supporting NMS alongside LNF, since it helps mitigate the financial risk of developing and launching a huge new product

I defo think they'll probably slow down quite a bit eventually but they're always going to be wanting to make new stuff for it, or at least I'd hope so

[safe quarry]

yes nothing will last forever, and NMS's sales are slowing down as they were always going to. But if i remember it still made about 40 million for them last year (or maybe it was the year before?) so its still got plenty of runway to support itself yet.

[gloomy isle]

For sure

Even if it slows down to smaller feature updates

[safe quarry]

Some things have definitely been put in place with it becoming self sustaining. Like the terminal for the expeditions, that UI is definitely made to one day house the ability to choose an expedition to rerun from a list.

[safe quarry]

I would still be happy with this ❤️ if they aim to get NMS into a good place structurally, we would be happy just getting little trinkets like new exocraft.

which it feels like they're doing. Orbital, Worlds Part 1 & 2, they all brought the big picture of NMS to a good place to sustain smaller updates like the living ships and exomech now there's a better playground to enjoy those kinds of updates inside of.

I would even say that after Next or Beyond's years, last year was the biggest year for NMS.

And there is still one BIG feature still hanging in the air teasing us all for years now! Station Override.

[gloomy isle]

Honestly true, most things that people want now would fit into medium content updates. Though if there's another huge/ big one left I guess it'll be the story arc conclusion

Worlds part 2 has kinda bought the generation to a point where any more variety might be hitting diminishing returns; the sheer number of biomes, colours, terrain etc has kinda hit a critical mass where you really can't predict what a planet will look like now

[safe quarry]

Yes very much so! ❤️ I think the only thing left to do with planets is update the POIs. And a small part of me hopes that they intend to do this in smaller parts, and the bone update being archaeology is the first step in updating the ruin POIs.

I would love it if they had more to 'do' at them. Like if the factories weren't about just breaking through the door and interacting with a terminal right in front of you. But rather if it had a few rooms of procedural traps, take the ones from the derelict freighters wholesale even. Just a little bit to flesh them out a bit more.

[gloomy isle]

Yeah the POIs are probably the main thing that really needs looking at now. I'm really interested in the bones stuff, I'm not sure what gameplay it might add but it seems like we're going to be able to actually display fossils and stuff which is a huge improvement imo

It would be amazing to see the frontiers building generation applied to regular POIs too

[safe quarry]

yes that much we definitely know thanks to bomberboi. My hope is that there's more to it than just that tho, and the ruins being updated or like i said earlier: new burial sites of giant skeletal remains as POIs

[safe quarry]

oh yes. I would love it if settlements were more commonplace too (also if they had a bit more to do in them even if you aren't the overseer) so as you're travelling the worlds feel a bit more inhabited.