nms-spoilers

[unborn bough]

I see.

So in order to obtain those items we need to bring them over from expedition save, correct?

I guess save editing is the only option for me if I want to challenge to be successful.

[umbral peak]

That worked for me yes

Brought back elixir of glass and of water

[unborn bough]

QS and Water: sorry.

Hmm! Save editing will do.

[viral geyser]

They changed the text from "later this summer" to "later this year" I feel like they would communicate with us if that changed

Also the fact that it runs for only two weeks is a bit odd

How long did emergence run for?

[gloomy isle]

It didn't even say "this year"

Just "later"

[native carbon]

YUP

yup

[analog breach]

Normal exp time. Around 4 weeks

[icy plume]

nornal is 6 ain’t it?

[analog breach]

Nah..normal was around 4-5 weeks

[muted moth]

5-6

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Expeditions#List_of_Expeditions but it's easy to doublecheck, all dates are listed here.

[native carbon]

🐟

[muted moth]

the exception to the rul. bu talso eveyrthing at the end was timegated

so that the entire community got the big reveal together basically

[sour fossil]

we seriously bringing bingo to spoiler channel? come on

[native carbon]

lol, actually true ima delete it

[muted moth]

"we have several more surprises, including a specific release to take advantage of the incredible power of the PlayStation 5 Pro at launch." I mean this is known. see https://blog.playstation.com/2024/10/23/no-mans-skys-halloween-expedition-the-cursed-is-out-today/ at the end of the post.

(in answer to your now deleted post 😛 )

[native carbon]

oh shoot i forgot

[muted moth]

so Nov 7 or thereabouts, we should hear some news

[native carbon]

i really wonder what surprises they have for us

[muted moth]

me too

[native carbon]

i heard that there are some WP1 props as QS items datamied

like the flowers

im excited for those ngl

[sour fossil]

yup

some of the new buildable flora pieces

(minus textures ofc)

[umbral peak]

Floating plant yay

Frees up a wonder slot for me

[native carbon]

im sooo hyped for those

[umbral peak]

I feel like we should be able to bring back any mineral or flora we find so any they add to qs shop is a win

[native carbon]

if WP2 will release on november 7th im buying starfield

[uncut harness]

Worst trade ever

[native carbon]

dont worry ima lose anyways

[uncut harness]

I probably will buy a ps5 version of NMS if it comes with wp2 on the disc

I'm a physical collector tho

[dense quartz]

I don't get why we don't have way more personal wonder slots.

[umbral peak]

Same

[twilit ocean]

I’m wondering if the big surprise update will be replayable expeditions instead.

It’s true that through speculation and a few subtle hints we can assume an update may definitely drop after the expedition and ps5 pro update.

It’s also true that it is very close to expedition re-run time, but that at least a small portion of the community would like infinite time to complete expeditions at times.

So - hypothetically - it is also possible that the update we get is re-playable expeditions instead, which would make sense if it overlapped with their rerun time period.

there’s also this information here - ^

[latent pewter]

Question about the endings
bear with me, it's been maybe 2 years since my first playthrough

Lore aside, is there any functional difference between the two?

From what i remember, one of em breaks all your gear, has you pick a new galaxy, but you can always warp back to the old one via portals

But what does the other ending do?

[mortal laurel]

the other option leaves you in euclid, doesn't break tech (tech is broken on any core jump as well), and the people in the space anomaly will remember you

[latent pewter]

D:
so functionally the same

[mortal laurel]

aside from the things mentioned, yes
you can reject and travel galaxies later if you wish

or go then, that, unlike core jumps, lets you pick from four galaxies

[latent pewter]

Oo

[viral geyser]

Emoji tommorow

(I am delusional)

[pliant aurora]

Def will be an emoji tomorrow or Saturday.

Just wont be Worlds 2 sadly

[uncut harness]

I think so too even tho it'll likely just be a ps5 release and a exp lol

[runic mesa]

PS5 Pro + Beachhead (remix?) + holiday redux. Maybe a few small surprises for fun. That's all I'm really expecting.

[viral geyser]

imagine its the globe tommorow

I would explode

[grizzled apex]

Oh yea, I didn't consider the emoji for the PS5 Pro update...

Did Next Gen have an emoji? I know the Mac Release did, so an emoji for this one might not be outta the question...

If they follow the emoji pattern so far it'll probably tease the name as opposed to the features, so I'm kinda at a loss as to what they'd name a primarily PS5 Pro update

[long raven]

Who else thinks the Boundary Guardian fight was a bit underwhelming

I wish it just had a couple more attacks

Love the Baby Boundary Horrors you can wipe out easily but other than that it just sits there and goes Zap ⚡

[analog breach]

I personally dont like more the jellyfish design. We have enough of them. They show up when u mine underwater or In space. We have child of helios in space and as a pet.

[long raven]

Iirc Artemis described them as having creepy faces too

[analog breach]

I Was hopeing for more void design boss,kinda like living ship have that are closely tied to the void .

[grizzled apex]

I wonder if the Mandible head is a precursor for some sorta void race going forward. The description does mention something about the appearance of beings beyond the boundary.

[unborn bough]

Could be.

From what I know Void Mother is associated with squid like beings. The Living Ship, Living Frigates, for example, are her children apparently.

Seeing these squid like beings and the introduction of Cthulhu face in the game is somewhat of a hint of a void related update.

I do wonder why did we keep seeing the child of Helios at every iteration reset.

And that too so close to the planet surface.

[analog breach]

I hope HG has lore backup for new race out of nowhere if that happens

[unborn bough]

It will connect to the Void Mother for sure, that much is apparent.

God knows what Korvax Prime has been doing in the Abyss all these years.

[analog breach]

Helios has some explaining to do. And why we babysit his kid. Maybe he will give some tech needed for going into the void.

[unborn bough]

Hopefully yeah, and hopefully it is not bugged like the ESS that Helios was supposed to give us for free everyday for all these years.

[sour fossil]

I can give the technical answer to that, dunno about lore

[unborn bough]

What is the technical answer? Please share.

[sour fossil]

Since this year's (?) expeds HG added a setting to the template all exped settings use called IntroSequencePOI

Which causes a selected object / pulse space encounter spawn in the planet's atmosphere

Like Adrift had the ghost frigate, Liquidators had the Asteroid Larvae, Cursed has Child of Helios

[analog breach]

Sean head in planet atmosphere when

[sour fossil]

Additionally in Cursed new action was added called GcRewardReinitialise which forces the boot-like sequence to play out (the white screen with Intiailize prompt / button)

[unborn bough]

Ohhhh! I see, i see.

[unborn bough]

Yeh, the apparent temporal “reset” as it may be seen in game.

[sour fossil]

That action is performed after each portal warp as part of the dedicated "milestone mission"

So it plays out the whole reinitialisation sequence including forcing the Child of Helios to appear again

[unborn bough]

I see

Gotcha.

Thank you for the explanation, it has answered my silly question. 😅

[sour fossil]

Lil funny bit of trivia the new anomalous hazard type is called "spook" in game files

[analog breach]

The Spook hazard

Cute

[sour fossil]

HG made a ton of work to make it happen

It's not just a reskin / overlay on some existing hazard type, it's a brand new one

With its own effects, visual overlays, damage values, recharges, etc

No way in hell they cooked up a whole new basic game component type only to have it run for 2 weeks

[analog breach]

Or they made it as base for something else

[unborn bough]

Ohh! So it is supposed to show our character fearful of something? Lol! I was unaliving squids while the boundary thingy was completely depleted.

I was the spook factor. XD

[analog breach]

Or Sanity

[sour fossil]

I wouldn't read into "spook" as a variable name too much

[unborn bough]

We can use some of the things from the expd in normal game, correct? We have also seen the datamined ruins and that huge korvax shell partially submerged in the ground. What if these areas are not in the normal universe but some alternate, parallel universe residing in the Abyss where we have to travel to and the hazard protection in that world is the one we have seen in this expedition?

[sour fossil]

it's short, it's clear, it's better than "ThatNewHazardTypeWeWorkOnForHaloweenExpedAndMaybeIntoWP2"

[unborn bough]

lol

[sour fossil]

Same way how the Boundary Herald is internally called Spookship

[analog breach]

Yeah. It could be just bc near halloween time.

[sour fossil]

What does BH has to do with those spectral hazards?

[unborn bough]

Oh! Interesting.

[sour fossil]

Nothing, it's a fun ship they cooked up and put as the reward

[unborn bough]

In the trailer it is found on the ground as if it is crashed.

[sour fossil]

yeah trailers are meant to hype up the game / update, not to show what's exactly in it

Sentinel update had planetary archive visible on a weird / exotic planet

[analog breach]

NewShiptypeicoming!voidrunnerORvoiddiver

[sour fossil]

Or basis Atlas MT melting through all new Sentinels in fraction of a second

[sour fossil]

sorry just noticed that

Yes, the items like Elixirs of QS / Water should work in non-exped gameplay modes as well

The mechanics of using an item to trigger something from inventory are not related to game mode / difficulty

[unborn bough]

That is what I trying to base a connection on.

[analog breach]

They do work

[sour fossil]

So EoQS can mark portals, my question is do they open up normally to glyph charging

Or do they ask the player for blood elixir

[analog breach]

Imo glyphs

Blood could be tied to exp scripts

[sour fossil]

alright scan event data has no forced interaction so that's clue 1 on not having to use blood

ooohhh ok

I see it now

[unborn bough]

They should mark a portal only, like charts mark POI.

[sour fossil]

Yeah they do I was looking into what causes the game to use blood elixirs

And it won't happen outside of exped

[unborn bough]

Oh ok

[sour fossil]

So what happens is:

• player uses Elixir of QS, it triggers a generic scan event for portal, marks a location
• player gets to the location, when closer than 50u from portal, the game force ends the generic scan event and triggers a special scan event
• that special scan event still targets the portal at its location but it's marking it as "repaired" meaning no glyphs charging is needed (technically glyphs are broken tech modules that need to charged in order to get the portal functional)
• while that special scan event is active, the interaction with portal terminal changes, so the game loads special dialogue instead of the generic ones we see when opening a portal
• these dialogues have a cost objects associated that requires player to give the right blood elixir

And since the scan events and dialogues are hosted only in the seasonal missions table file, they won't get active from other gameplay

that is clever and that comes from someone who toyed with the idea of replacing charging all glyphs with offering single item Adrift-style

[sour fossil]

Text entries for robofauna from game files: https://pastebin.com/aVJb75he

[earnest nimbus]

Hello! Have the community goals for expedition 16 been completed yet? I saw the progress bar yesterday when I was playing but today I can't seem to find it.

[sour fossil]

... there are no community goals for expedition 16

[runic mesa]

There's no community goals specific to expedition 16. The progress bar you're seeing at the QS vendor is just the normal Nexus community progress.

[mental socket]

What they said above. Just do daily qs missions and the green weekend one

[runic mesa]

Not all expeditions will have optional community milestones, FYI

[sour fossil]

yup, only the badly designed ones do

[runic mesa]

Omega flashbacks

[viral geyser]

We still thinking emoji today?

[native carbon]

100% not

[uncut harness]

Where the fucking emoji raaaahhhh

[uncut harness]

Omega wasn't so bad till phase 5

Tbh tho what's the point of a emoji
PlayStation already spoiled something coming

[vagrant thunder]

What was omega like?

[native carbon]

Ping me to death if sean will drop an emoji this weekend

[uncut harness]

Ok

[analog breach]

New near future banners are now in apperance modifier as locked

[uncut harness]

Nice another new exp before reruns likely

Watch this be the last year of NMS updates

We're at most updates and most exps in a year right now
Another still coming

[runic mesa]

That could also mean new QS banners, not necessarily an expedition.

I still think it's Beachhead remix.

[uncut harness]

EA does need good press I could see them green lighting the mass effect ship to be used again

[runic mesa]

Omega itself wasn't too bad. Actually a mix of all sorts of tasks, as it was designed for new players specifically.

But the optional community milestones relied on scanning minerals, flora and fauna on specific planets to advance the progress bar. So you couldn't really grind it to help the count.

So the last community milestone ended up crawling for a week before it completed

[uncut harness]

Craig has spoken

[fervent fern]

Pioneers had a redux, but it has been a couple of years

[runic mesa]

All four had a redux at one point. Not sure what he meant by that.

[uncut harness]

Craig knowns these things

[runic mesa]

I don't understand skipping ahead to Polestar either. Eh, we'll see.

[uncut harness]

Polestar has what I need most for a few ideas lol

[runic mesa]

6-8 had the expedition exclusive capes.

[grizzled apex]

activate the play any of them any time feature they added to the code

Yeaaa gonna need a source on that one chief... Expedition file structure hasn't been changed since WPI to accommodate this, so unless he's the only person in the world to have HG's roadmap, that's just speculation atp...

[runic mesa]

Ya'lls datamining is only showing signs of a Beachhead remix, so that's what I'm going with.

Would make sense to throw in something to round out the expedition reruns to an even number

[twilit ocean]

I agree we need a source, I also only have been speculating that we get an any day any time feature.

Since realistically it’s the only update that makes sense to be an extra surprise

and would make even more sense given the halloween expedition.

Or rather I expect a feature could easily be for every year the ones from 2 years back release again in that mode.

https://x.com/NMSResources/status/1801999584283013621

Craig Mark (@NMSResources) on X

Twitter · Jun 15, 2024, 3:25 PM

I got this far back in the posts

Dont see code source

Just resending this one because I don’t remember seeing underwater towers being shared in a screenshot

[sour fossil]

@uncut harness @twilit ocean increase your life quality by 1000% by not listening to anything Craig says

Just because something is found in game files doesn't mean it's gonna come to actual game

Wind powered farms, golden byte beat, have been since ages, references to Nvidia Reflex or DLSS3 have been around for a year

Starship customisation elements were also for a long time and looked much different than what we have now

[twilit ocean]

I don’t, I was simply scrolling for what the person sent

No source

Only old patch

for what we have now

[sour fossil]

They are talking purely out of their ass, nobody has access to game code, and they don't credit actual data miners like BomberBoi here

[twilit ocean]

Yeah I can always tell

It’s pretty frustrating honestly

Even their videos are click bait xD

[sour fossil]

The Underwater Towers in question are not actual towers but a biome name, pretty sure it was AyyMang who posted screenshot here

[twilit ocean]

Yeah I remember seeing them, that’s why I was asking which images it referred to.

[sour fossil]

It's not about clickbait, it's about being delusional and harming the community by posting info like they are some kind of Chosen One

[twilit ocean]

People underestimate how easily things get scrapped in development phases lol

[twilit ocean]

No I meant like the youtube videos some make

You’ll see clickbait about an update

and it’s just some weird person ranting nonsense without any statistical or code backing

Always been that way since day 1

[sour fossil]

Because there is no way for us to back it up with code

[twilit ocean]

I just keep to my own speculations with small things like it should be

waiting like a patient player should

[sour fossil]

We modders do not have access to actual game functionality, that's is stored in game's executable file

All we have access to are static files that serve as lists / tables of parameters / data structures used by those functions

We might speculate on what's coming to the game by seeing new properties, new textures and models

[twilit ocean]

Okay if you’re going to rant make sure to tag the guy who actually needs the info and posted Craig crazy man first xD

Was just trying to point out how his info doesn’t have backing but I did poorly.

[sour fossil]

But there's 0 guarantee anything will come to the game

I'm just trying to inform people not to take anything regarding datsmined content for granted

[twilit ocean]

Just making sure you don’t mean just me since i’m here

[sour fossil]

Especially from a person claiming to have a hotline to HG after each update drops

[twilit ocean]

I’ve been around since day 1 and people like that guy are always full of crap

The only hotline they have is the vow of silence.

[sour fossil]

No I'm talking in general, I pinged you and other person because you shared that info, I'm just keeping the discussion linked

[twilit ocean]

Yeah what I linked was how far I had gotten scrolling that trashbin

Since I was curious about source

[sour fossil]

For some info the source can be accredited to either @grizzled apex or @ebon spoke , if you search this channel you will find their posts

The rest is based on delusion

[ebon spoke]

keep in mind that its also speculation that any of the datamined content will even be present in Worlds Part II, or that Worlds Part II will be the next content update, or that there's even still going to be an update called 'Worlds Part II'.

HG's roadmaps seem to be quite loose. There's been datamined content that was never added to the game. There's been datamined content that took years to be added. Echoes was the third part of the four part Autophage story, but we never got an update officially referred to as the fourth part.

'No Man's Sky Evolution' was an update teased at the game awards last year, but it ended up being split into Omega and Orbital

[sour fossil]

I dont believe Evolution was ever considered to be an update name

Just a word used for the video title showcasing the evolution of the game throughout the 7 years

HG used to make title announcements for Beyond, Frontiers and Echoes, what stopped them from announcing Evolution the same way?

[viral geyser]

DlSS 3 is litteraly in game

[glass flare]

i haven't been in here bc I haven't finished the expedition yet, but I noticed on the first planet that the time scale is super fast when you look at the visor (and the days go by super fast). very interesting. wonder if they're hinting at variable day/night cycles for Part 2

[subtle gorge]

"Evolution" was never an official update title. That title comes from the IGN upload of the "10th anniversary of the games awards announcement" video on Hello Game's channel, it's always had that title.

[native carbon]

No mans sky Fi update

[grizzled apex]

Like FF said, "evolution" was never a title used by HG directly. Additionally, The trailer on their own channel with the teaser is just called "10th Anniversary of the Game Awards Announcement".

I'm pretty sure the only place we saw Evolution show up was an IGN trailer's title.

[grizzled apex]

Ah, should've read properly, had same point as this 😅

On the subject of HG's roadmap though, I wonder if they shifted things around a bit this time. I didn't think the then unused "The Cursed" title card we got would be anything other than an old name for Adrift, but it looks like they had this exped in the works for quite a while.

[native carbon]

One thing i find interesting is that they said that the surprise will use the power of PS5 pro, and the only thing i can think of is WP2 cuz i bet it will inprove the graphics and stuff. Im not sure if Reduxes have anything to do with graphics

[sour fossil]

Maybe it's related to the VR gameplay

HG added a new graphical preset for PS5 Pro VR

[native carbon]

Ps5 pro.... VR?

They didnt mentioned it in the text tho

[sour fossil]

That's what the name implies

[sour fossil]

Trinity being the codename for PS5 Pro

[native carbon]

Ah

Idk then

Im like 99% sure wp2 or any other content update will not release this year

[uncut harness]

Its not worlds part 2

[runic mesa]

If it was a big update, we would probably have gotten an emoji by now.

[uncut harness]

Just to be fair there could be no emoji because they know Sony already posted something is coming

[runic mesa]

Yup, that's also possible

[grizzled apex]

The Next Gen update, which is the closest parallel to this upcoming drop, does technically have an emoji too (🔮), though I can't find whether Sean posted it before the update dropped or not. The only tweet from Sean I see from that period is this one though

[gloomy isle]

Tbh I'd be super happy with a bit of a texture quality etc boost

[native carbon]

idk why but next gen update usually come with new content right?

or big graphics improvements

[grizzled apex]

Not really

Most of the improvements were for the new consoles, some of which transferred over to PC

[native carbon]

i really hope its just not that

[grizzled apex]

Patience is a virtue not widely held I suppose...

[native carbon]

im not talking about WP2, im talking about that they said that there are multiple surprises in the upcoming weeks

[grizzled apex]

We're very close to WPII in my opinion, but the end of year isn't a good time to launch your biggest potential update / follow up to something which brought you your biggest player counts

In fact, it's a bad time for any content release given that HG are likely winding down work for the year

[native carbon]

im not talking about WP2

i said that im 100% sure WP2 is not coming this year

[grizzled apex]

"Multiple surprises" reads an awful lot like the "we have more to share" / "more will follow" that HG add to the end of every patch notes announcement. It's really not too significant imo, mostly just a way to talk about the PS5 Pro on a blog exclusively targeted to the main audience of that upgrade

[grizzled apex]

Neither am I. I'm talking about the plausibility of more content this year near the year end when we have evidence of back to back redux expeditions begining very soon.

[uncut harness]

They already surpassed their record for updates and exps I don't foresee too much more

[native carbon]

thats true

[uncut harness]

The biggest thing a port update has come with is animals

[grizzled apex]

It's not a something they've been secretive about. Martin's openly talked about the game being supported day 1 on PS5 Pro, which practically confirmed the update release date before Sean mentioned it.

Besides, they chose to have the PS5 Pro enhanced tag on the ps store before release to show that they're a launch title for the PS5 Pro, clearly with the intention to attract day 1 buyers

[native carbon]

fine but like i really hope the "multiple surprises" will not just focus on a PS5 pro version

[grizzled apex]

Use the power of the PS5 Pro => update the game to utilize the raw hardware of the PS5 Pro to it's fullest extent

Multiple surprises => the usual "more will follow" spiel

[uncut harness]

Sony's come crawling back after rushing them on PS4 lol

[grizzled apex]

The prior has evidence in the form of Martin mentioning that he's been very excited to work with the actual hardware of the pro and that it's likely one of the more power consoles he's worked with and that he was excited to work on getting NMS to fully utilize it

[native carbon]

soooo i assume its expedition redux and PS5 pro version

i know i have been complaining a lot recently but the amount of expedition content we got recently is not fun, at least imo

[grizzled apex]

Haha, I thought it was ironic tbh. Nms' recent explosion in popularity might be a great thing for people who pre-ordered and now have this game that's been getting a lotta attention drop day 1

[uncut harness]

They didn't really overhype it too much more than more is coming like the usually do tbh & changing the update message to say from summer to later

Not necessarily

[grizzled apex]

They didn't. As with every single time the community's gotten burnt out over an update, it's been because of their own over expectations. Never did HG even ever MENTION WPII by name, let alone promise it. And the whole "there's part 1 so part 2 must be next!!1!" Argument is really weak imo. One of the reasons to break an update apart is most likely that they're not meant to ship close to one another, or will take longer to develop...

[native carbon]

yeah... its just me overhyping myself, i apologise

[uncut harness]

I double checked the update message and it just says even more to come not wp2 coming

[grizzled apex]

Precisely. Going off that message, HG's delivered already for the year.

[native carbon]

after october 23th i started to realise how much i overhyped myself

and i bet it was quite annoying, sorry for that

[uncut harness]

You know what was annoying g

A pot for aquaris update

When they know damn well ruin biomes got leaked after worlds

[sour fossil]

I dont think HG gives a damn about what's leaked or not

I can remember only 1 instance when they removed datamined content - the new space stations

[uncut harness]

They do have a history of doing a little trolling with their emojis tho
The pot as I just said, the orange was another good one

[sour fossil]

trolling

they pick emojis that match the name of the update with various levels of accuracy

[native carbon]

the snowflake one was also a good one

[sour fossil]

It's the community who gets trolled

[grizzled apex]

I'm kinda glad they're sticking to one emoji shtick this time, knowing that it's gonna predict the name vs a feature of the update makes em easier to guess imo and keeps speculation in check, but most people don't seem to have caught up on the pattern anyway...

[sour fossil]

keeps speculation in check

My brother in simulation

Where were you when 🏺 dropped

Or ❄️

[uncut harness]

They did that to themsdlfs by naming a update part 1 if just worlds no one would of batted a eye

[gloomy isle]

Well it's because it's part one

🤷

[analog breach]

Also pepole doing it to them selfs by over speculating and overexpecting.

[gloomy isle]

Exactly

It's like what happened with orbital. It took longer than people wanted but it was really worth it in the end

[uncut harness]

Orbital is cool but I prefer old stations with rooms and lounge areas

But on the outside before flying in they look better yea

[analog breach]

I hope new stations will get more rooms in the future

[uncut harness]

I have chronic old is better syndrome lol
Like pathfinder generation more, 2018 space dust more & second generation space stations
Somthing probably wrong with me ngl

[runic mesa]

I remember when Omega went to experimental.... then the YT vidders got wind of it and blew the speculation up. "IT'S THE LAST NMS UPDATE EVER." Based on absolutely nothing but the name of the expedition. Ridiculous.

[uncut harness]

I lowkey expect the last major updates to come in 2025 every major system has been improved besides combat and ocean depth

[runic mesa]

The Aquarius urn makes sense if you know anything about astrology. The urn is the Aquarius astrological sign.

[analog breach]

Amphora

[native carbon]

hi

[analog breach]

Hi

[grizzled apex]

Snowflake fell out of proportion tbh, but a name like Fractal was kinda catalyst like for people's insane theories

[grizzled apex]

Yea it just set the "emoji = name" pattern in stone for me personally, made keeping speculation for 🤬 simpler since "Cursed" seemed like a perfect fit.

[dense quartz]

Fractal was a legendary moment for me.
The community was talking about how we're 100% getting waterfalls and rivers and HG ported the entire game to a brand new engine that could handle flowing water physics and planetary rotation and physical suns and manually flying between systems and flyable freighters etc...

...And the update had 0 new content.
It was fucking amazing.

To this day I don't know why the hype for that particular update was so intense.

[uncut harness]

What was fractual a port update?

[runic mesa]

Fractal was the Utopia expedition. It was a big deal for the Switch port though. The offline Nexus and non-settlement Trace of Metal were added to the Switch with Fractal.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were focusing more on the Switch for that one and tossed in the expedition for everyone else.

[uncut harness]

Yeah not too surprising most updates have something that benefits the switch exclusively

[runic mesa]

I bet they were getting a lot of complaints from Switch players about the lack of QS source.

(That's what happens when you launch a port without the Nexus, but keep the QS vendor open...)

[native carbon]

hi

[native carbon]

hey bomber, im sorry if i was annoying earlier this day

[kind current]

is the fact the nms universe a simulation a spoiler?

[pliant aurora]

Ah so no emoji this weekend so yeah probably just exp reruns and ps5 pro update. next week.

[viral geyser]

So uhh

I saw this post on Reddit, might be nothing

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/s/gXEzzUcz6T

It either says 7th-11-24 or HW24

[uncut harness]

We knew somthinf was dropping on the 7th so not a crazy guess ig

[grizzled apex]

Yea, first discovered by @silent pier and the RSS I believe. It's actually a small mesh added on top of the main boundary herald model (instead of being a decal texture) which is kinda neat! You can see that the node name for it's called "HW24", so probably just a nod to it being a Halloween expedition reward.

[twilit ocean]

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[native carbon]

Is that the cockpit? In the 2nd image

[grizzled apex]

No, it's the exterior, with the main "hull"'s visibility switched off so that you can see the decal mesh better

[native carbon]

Ah

[native carbon]

I think it just means halloween 2024

Which is cool ngl

[flat sluice]

so with the expedition almost over, what's everyone speculating to come after?

i know there's been some talk about ps5--being a pc nerd i don't know much about that tbh. personally i would be glad to see another, slightly more substantial update, perhaps even building on some of the mechanics that were shown off during cursed.

[runic mesa]

Going by HG's previous patterns, it's a bit too late in the year for another large content update. My guess is graphical enhancements for the PS5 Pro launch + holiday expedition reruns.

[flat sluice]

if that's the case, I hope PC gets graphical enhancements too :')

[native carbon]

for me its redux, PS5 pro upgrade and some QS items

[mighty palm]

Do you reach the center of the galaxy when you finish the main quest

Or am I gonna have to spend hours at some point trying to get that achievement

[vagrant thunder]

Yup (replied to the wrong message mb)

[vagrant thunder]

Yes

[native carbon]

im quite excited for 2025

[runic mesa]

@uncut harness What did Sony tease?

[uncut harness]

The Playstation article posted around the cursed update

[twilit ocean]

Purple systems or are we going to artemis’s systems or something similar

I just thought about that

[vapid crane]

Hmm if we're supposed to get Worlds Part 2 I'd imagine Sean would start teasing it by now with the emoji. Feels like they are trying to subvert expectations for this one. So my gut feeling says something like the Next Generation Update which also dropped late in the year (28th of October, 2020) + expedition reruns as @grizzled apex pointed out

[uncut harness]

It's interesting yoy bring up the next gen update because they already improved eveything for next gen players and pc players who play on ultra so what could this new ps5 update even be

[dense quartz]

The optimist in me is saying that this current expedition was meant to ship with Worlds Part 2 but they decided to put it out 2 weeks early and then we'll soon get Part 2 without the expedition, followed by the expedition reruns next month.

But if not.. I really don't know what "a few surprises" could be this late into the year, especially something related to the PS5 Pro.

[runic mesa]

I mean, "several more surprises" could just mean something really minor. Doesn't necessarily confirm a major content release.

[dense quartz]

Yeah most likely. Though I wonder why he uses such language, he should know how crazy people get with speculations over every little thing. 😅

[balmy nimbus]

N7 Day and PS5 Pro is what we "have" for now, but writing the date of the update in the game is kind of surprising tbh

[grizzled apex]

Where's the date of the update written in game, again?

[balmy nimbus]

I know your theory is HW24, but mine is 7 11 24 cause everything leads to that 😉

[grizzled apex]

I mean, the node for that mesh is literally called "HW24", but to each their own 🙂

[balmy nimbus]

Beachhead coming back from the ashes as redux on 7/11 when this is the N7 Days (Mass effect celebration) kinda confirm we are talking about 7 11 24 right ?

There is no other reason for HG to bring the BeachHead expedition back than releasing the update on 7/11

[grizzled apex]

Ah, didn't know there was a mass effect day on Nov 7th. Either HG area really good at planning ahead, or the stars aligned just perfectly for them for this upcoming release 😅

[balmy nimbus]

I think they are taking advantage of it because the release is linked to PS5 Pro release first

Did not know either for N7 Day, but this is every year Celebration

[grizzled apex]

Tbf, they're required to release it on Nov 7th anyway just because of their day 1 support for the PS5 Pro. What's curious to me is whether they ship an update across all platforms, or if PS5 Pro gets 5.22 just with engine specific optimizations, and the exped is pushed across to all platforms w/o an update.

I'm not sure to what extent HG have modified the expedition mission table for the reruns, but theoretically if they've pushed all the changes as part of The Cursed, we might not really get an "update" per se

[balmy nimbus]

I bet for an all platforms update. Especially once you see the HW24 on the ship. Never happend before. This, is something

[grizzled apex]

Honestly, just seems like a cool easter egg on HG's part, which I do hope they make more of because it's fun to come across small messages like this

When Mac released, was there an update for other platforms except for Steam? That might be the closest comparison we have of a recent single platform release

[balmy nimbus]

There is only one real world easter egg this clear : the unicorn. And this was for a big reason. HG never bring the real world this way in the game (maybe I am forgeting smt but quite sure)

[grizzled apex]

What's the big reason for hiding an origami unicorn in a corner of the anomaly most people gloss over?

[balmy nimbus]

The death of Rutger Hauer, famous Blade Runner actor and voice of the "I've seen things..."

A tribute to an actor and a voice

https://youtu.be/NoAzpa1x7jU?t=109

[grizzled apex]

Ohh, I didn't know the unicorn symbolized him. Really awesome of HG to drop a tribute in that way

[balmy nimbus]

Yes it is. Now why this HW24 thing and why making it impossible to datamine. Only way to find it is to see it ingame (with luck considering the red on red) or to see it as you did with the model. Why hiding it in plain sight ? This bugs me since it was found

[grizzled apex]

Yea tbf, having it as a mesh felt like a weird way to hide the detail. Hell, they made the Atlas Seed sounds from singularity (which was an actual ARG clue) much easier to extract than this haha

[balmy nimbus]

This is why I am obsessed by this since 3 days. HG giving so much effort for this HW24 is confusing to me. If they wanted to make it like a "this is HaloWeen 24 ship", why not decall ? why hiding it ?

Anyway, we'll get an answer soon maybe

[grizzled apex]

T -3 days remaining!

[balmy nimbus]

and an emoji sooner

[dense quartz]

I very specifically remember on PC, when Mac update dropped, when scanning planets from space, "Corrupted World" was renamed to "Dissonance Detected"
||I'm still bothered by it.||

Man, imagine if Sean actually drops an emoji in a day or two... just 2 weeks after the last one.

[grizzled apex]

Was the mac releasse Steam specific? Or did it bring an update to other versions as well?

[dense quartz]

I'm not sure. I think all platforms were updated maybe, since it was a whole update teased with an Emoji and everything. Even if there was no new content.

[grizzled apex]

I wonder if we're even gonna get an emoji this time tbh. The mac release did have one, but they'd also announced that one pretty publicly. A mid-gen upgrade seems less like a marketable update and more like a "oh yea, that makes sense" type of update

[balmy nimbus]

This is when I like to have recorded all the story. Yes this was for everyone (Mac crossplatform and they changed a few ingame settings at the same time). We had an experimental branch update a few days later btw

[balmy nimbus]

There is no update with no emoji. No matter how big

And they have to hype people about the PS5 Pro too

[grizzled apex]

Well it's been a pretty crazy year with HG so far, lots of unexpected firsts. I just kinda hope any update coming this week has some more unused stuff haha

[grizzled apex]

I don't think many people are too hyped about that console in the first place 😅

[balmy nimbus]

This is why HG have to make its part of the job selling Pro ^^

NMS is on the short list of those day one PS5 Pro enhanced games

Real question is : will the trailer be about "PS5 Pro release and other stuff" or "we have an update for you guys, side note : PS5 Pro enhanced"

Really hope this is side note ^^

[gloomy isle]

A small part of me wonders if it could be raytracing lol

I highly doubt it would be but it fits the fact it's for the new ps5

[balmy nimbus]

Taking 4 years to get SSR and bringing Ray Tracing 3 months later would be a non sense to me

[gloomy isle]

We've has SSR since 2021...

[balmy nimbus]

took them 4 years to bring it to water 😉

[native carbon]

whatever is coming im sure it will be good

[native carbon]

my jar dropped twice during this year, orbital and worlds

[uncut harness]

Damn no emoji yet? The new update will probably be nothing ngl lol

[analog breach]

There will be no emoji imo . Chances for emoji where low from the start.

[uncut harness]

If PlayStation didn't post a article we'd only be thinking reruns

[balmy nimbus]

This is where that HW24 thing shows up :p

[uncut harness]

I don't understand Halloween 2024

Its just a small decal for that

[balmy nimbus]

1. not a decal
2. not Halloween 2024 :p

[runic mesa]

Redux updates usually don't get emojis, right?

[analog breach]

Nope. No emojis

[runic mesa]

So likely just the redux then.

[analog breach]

They could throw in mixtape redux. Old exp with rewards from diffrent expeditions.

[runic mesa]

....like Beachhead, which has been datamined.

[analog breach]

4 example.yes

[balmy nimbus]

Is there any chance HG brings PS5 Pro support without emoji ? Beachhead is coming back because the update drops on 7/11 aka N7 Day

[uncut harness]

Hw 24 is literally just Halloween 24 do you have anything that says otherwise to source?

[balmy nimbus]

HW is 7 11 24

[native carbon]

i just want the new datamined QS items

[analog breach]

Im only intrested in reruns bc of getting unique exp items to my main save

[native carbon]

the flora from WP1

[analog breach]

We will get there. Ewentualy

[runic mesa]

Floating flowers, want. Would look great on my blue paradise planet.

[balmy nimbus]

explained everything earlier today 😉

[uncut harness]

Lol don't over hype yourself too much

[runic mesa]

A lot of that QS stuff will take months to roll out.

[analog breach]

Yeah probably until spring update

[balmy nimbus]

I don't. Just saying it is 7/11 since the begining (Sean confirmed day one PS5 Pro support : PS5 Pro release on 7/11) and Beachhead datamined to start on 7/11. The HW thing was just one more int to this

And btw the update is already planned on GoG

[runic mesa]

The only question with Beachhead is rewards. Normandy + remixed stuff probably?

[analog breach]

Or there is no normady bc license problems but there will be other stuff

[runic mesa]

Yeah, locking in stuff until around Feb/March.

[balmy nimbus]

Rerun Mass Effect expedition starting Mass Effect Celebration day and not giving the Normandy would be... fun ?

[runic mesa]

We'll see in a few days...

[analog breach]

There was no Mass effect celebration tho. Or mass effect expedition.

Its more like cross over. Or cameo

Exp itself was not mass effect oriented

[balmy nimbus]

7/11 is N7 Day. THis is Mass Effect Celebration

[balmy nimbus]

expedition lore was Mass Effect lore, not NMS

[analog breach]

Not from my point of view but i dont know much about ME lore. Other than some war and alien romance xd. so i will take your word for it.

[runic mesa]

Either way, I'll get the Beachhead title/decal/banner. I'll take it.

[analog breach]

If we going to get normandy i cant wait to see players missing the normandy spawn in 🤣

I saw 2 streamers missing it entirely when wen exp was running first time.

Whole chat was like THERE ! THERE ! and streamer was running in circles shouting WHERE I CANT SEE IT.

[viral geyser]

Ps5 pro releases on the 7th my man

[balmy nimbus]

that's what I said 😉

[viral geyser]

You keep saying 7/11

[balmy nimbus]

yep european date

[viral geyser]

Ahhh

[balmy nimbus]

like HG use european date...

[viral geyser]

I don't think the hw24 has anything to do with mass effect

I'm pretty sure it's just a little Halloween Easter egg

[balmy nimbus]

HW24 is not Mass Effect related. 7/11 is. ANd what I said is that HW24 is in fact 7/11/24 🙂

[viral geyser]

It litteraly says HW24 in the mesh files

[balmy nimbus]

indeed.

[analog breach]

"HalloWeen2024" ship.

[balmy nimbus]

Tell me any other thing in NMS that is labeled as "release for *** update" ? none. There is no reason for them to label that ship this way

[analog breach]

Yet.

[viral geyser]

You're right there isn't a reason; like most Easter eggs it's just a fun thing

HW24= Halloween 24

[balmy nimbus]

Explained everything earlier. You may think this way, I don't

[viral geyser]

I don't mind speculating, but when you ignore the litteraly facts infront of you...

[analog breach]

Or to lable ship so they dont mess up and upload wrong model

[balmy nimbus]

It was a possibility. But no chance this goes live, and no chance they do it this way.

[analog breach]

Why not

Its not visible in normal game

[balmy nimbus]

It is

[analog breach]

It still does not mean much atm

Im more wondering if we get more expeditions. Everyones expectations ended at exp16.

[balmy nimbus]

as said, one more hint for 7/11

There is no reason for them to stop expedition. easy content, fast and simple to keep players on the game

[analog breach]

They need to lvl up their exp game tho. I was bored most of the time this year. Cursed got me most intrested.

[balmy nimbus]

But this is not the plan I think

[analog breach]

They need to do it. Bc if they not going to focus more on expanding story and lore i will drop nms. Only story keeps me going back.

[balmy nimbus]

Sean saying that The Cursed was about a story started back into Atlas Rises I smiled. For sure they need to give more on the story and lore. So many unfinished parts all over

[uncut harness]

I miss when NMS was just one big mystery nothing confirmed or canon sometimes tbh but the void mommy and robots awesome

Launch without all the "false promises" would of been fine just a neat indie game

[native carbon]

Beachead expedition redux, cool PS5 pro improvements, tons of bug fixes, potentially new content (but i doubt on that)

my silly prediction

[candid osprey]

Hey Guys, Any News for a upcoming Update after this EXP?

[analog breach]

If still is an indie game tho

[analog breach]

Maybe. Keep and eye out on 7:11:2024

[balmy nimbus]

planned on GoG :

[candid osprey]

GoG?

[balmy nimbus]

Game seller (like Steam)

[pliant aurora]

id be. surprised if we get new content.

[candid osprey]

Ah okay

[analog breach]

Good Old Games. digital distribution platform. Their catch is drm free games

[uncut harness]

Only company not affected by the you must tell customers they own nothing law

[fervent fern]

No emojis for this one I'm assuming

[uncut harness]

Maybe Tomorrow

[mental socket]

it better be cloud save

[gloomy isle]

Ooo internal branch

Definitely gonna be something small though I think

[analog breach]

Yeah. Maybe qs shop update or something.

[uncut harness]

A lot of people were speculating that some Sony product launches on the 7th, I assume it'll be a free weekend and the redux to get players from that release

[analog breach]

Ps5 pro launches at 7th. Redux is good oportunity for free trial tho

[grizzled apex]

Sounds like a good time to launch the cross save beta tbh. Would definitely fit into the "surprises" bit for anyone who hasn't seen all the tinkering they've been doing with it recently

[native carbon]

pleaase

[runic mesa]

Doing another free weekend in time for Omega redux would be neat too.

Since Omega was designed around new players anyway

[mental socket]

Speaking of tinkering. A friend of mine on ps5 encountered this issue on their main save today

how can the save be more recent than the version they're on? Must be a bricked save

[analog breach]

Save more recent than game ? Sounds like fondling with game clock. Or not upated game

!faq-time

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Should I adjust my system time?

No! Messing with your system clock has the potential to break every single thing that relies on a real timer. Settlements, frigate missions, farms, mines, freighter battles and time gates such as the Starbirth Quest. Just don't do it.

Contributors: The Atlas

[wise bronze]

This happens when you exit NMS due to an error, for example when the spaceship gets stuck in the anomaly and you have to stop the game. If you don't restart the save and try to play in co-op you get that message. I solved it by restarting the console, entering the single player save and then grouping up and joining friends.

[grizzled apex]

Oh interesting, I saw some of these error messages added recently and thought this was related to cross saves when downloading a save locally. Didn't know it was used already

[mental socket]

Ah. That would be logical

[mental socket]

Apparently if the timestamp is newer, this happens. It's just odd because they've not tinkered with their console time or anything

just throwing guesses here

[grizzled apex]

Having it to the save timeslot is weird since they've added save versions pretty recently which is what you'd expect the game to check here. Might be an incorrectly assigned LOC ID?

[mental socket]

I love my solar flares disturbing the little beepy machine so it puts a number in a wrong place

[valid barn]

the what?

[mental socket]

A dumb joke. Reference to that one random mario64 speedrun glitch that happened due to a solar storm and some particles misaligning a zero with one or something in the components xD

caused a glitch that couldn't be replicated

[valid barn]

I never bother with speedruns

[mental socket]

NMS speedruns are the silliest thing I've ever seen. Never watched one but I know they exist

speedrun making Atlas cry

[uncut harness]

So no emoji but there's been a internal update

Still can just be patches though known bugs like see through falcon exist

[uncut harness]

My record for redoing the main story is 4h before the 16 warps for the purge 😆

[native carbon]

huh?

whats that

[analog breach]

Looks like aaaa... icon for tech ??????

[sour fossil]

This is how HG marks missing textures

Sometimes those slip into game files for public release

The actual items are missing but someone forgot or did not bother removing the associated files

Because why risk breaking something over deleting something 99.9% of player base isn't gonna see

It gives us a glimpse into what HG could have worked on but ultimately scrapped

Or what could come in the future once they finish modeling stuff

[native carbon]

im quite excited

i want to get my normandy

[native carbon]

@analog breach ey umm... sorry if i was like annoying while talking about WP2 thinny, after october 23th i realised that i pretty much just overhyped myself and like i changed my mind. Whenever WP2 will release im sure it will be good.

[runic mesa]

I'll be happy with just a Beachhead remix and it rewarding some legacy expedition stuff I don't already have.

[native carbon]

tbf same, i want a normandy

[uncut harness]

I need that freighter Expo to come back for the fire barrels and get freighter tech but beachhead for the mass effect ship would be cool

[native carbon]

Omg yes fire barrels

[safe kiln]

I really am hoping they’ll put the expeditions on a repeating loop now that we’ve had 16 of them

I’d imagine the next update might include this, as well as doing things like adding the enemies from The Cursed as encounters somewhere in normal gameplay

[uncut harness]

I'm not gunna cap there's not really a reason exps need to be a limited time too bad so sad thing especially since the games still primarily single player

Even if you use mp, I live in the hub on a save too, they still don't really need to be like that

[native carbon]

Tomorrow

[runic mesa]

Yup, internal's been going off.

(And Switch got 5.22 just in time for it whoo)

[viral geyser]

It's only gone off once right?

[coral dawn]

hmmm
is the Void Mother ever described as a Korvax specifically? I think it could be ||Artemis||

[runic mesa]

Once today and once yesterday

[gloomy isle]

The Void Mother is Korvax Prime, the home planet of the Korvax which was destroyed but still exists without a body

[lime birch]

https://www.psu.com/news/no-mans-sky-confirmed-to-support-8k-resolution-on-ps5-pro/

[analog breach]

Where nms dev confirmed that 8K?? X to doubt

[grizzled apex]

I'm a lil doubtful of the source, but HG do talk to gane journalists at times. I remember digital foundry mentioned they reached out to Martin on the Trinity preset when I posted about it and had a little chat about it.

[lime birch]

Yea, but everything is possible xD

[analog breach]

Nms ps5pro review copies are probably with journalists now. Thats only reason that news like that start to show up other than pure fake news.

[native carbon]

I bet it will come back in the purple systems

Ngl im excited for tomorrow, whatever it is im sure it will be good, let HG cook

HG is my favourite game studio and i love their games, im really excited for LNF and NMS wp2

This year was very great

[vestal barn]

😮 Is that a hint for tmr update. But can we talk about 8k Res 😮😮

[thorn token]

8K with upscaling maybe and 30 FPs or what ?

[deft scroll]

Idk where to message then on but does anyone know a specific gravity planet I'm looking for it has floating structures everywhere and there's gravity storms ans I'm looking for one that is glowing at night on the planet with gravity storms

[native carbon]

thats nice

[gloomy isle]

Apparently it's gonna be better reflections, 8k, better lighting effects and some other stuff

[dense quartz]

So I'm guessing if there's an update tomorrow, it'll be something like Next Generation where it's mostly visual/engine improvements?

[runic mesa]

(And hopefully the datamined Beachhead remix)

[mortal laurel]

if we do get that, that'll be a lot of expeditions to rerun

[native carbon]

We need an update called expedition break, the update will add nothing, jk

[analog breach]

Probably . I doubt in 8K and stable 60fps.

IF 8k is legit.

[uncut harness]

Another internal update but no emoji

[analog breach]

Never had emoji for redux expeditions

No sense in emoji when sony kinda spoiled it.

[ebon spoke]

Probably just tech changes for the ps5 pro without content if there's no emoji

[native carbon]

beachhead redux

[uncut harness]

Hope beachhead or polesta4

[glad kernel]

@grizzled apex Are you sure there is an update on Nov 7?

[grizzled apex]

There's an expedition ready to go at ~ 2PM GMT on the 7th, not sure about update 😅

Although there is an internal rn, and I'd assume some parts of the reduxes might be a part of it if they haven't modified all of the seasonal missions etc already

I kinda wonder if the beachhead redux is ready and this is just the cross save beta sitting in internal though. We could see a drop to experimental and consoles in that case for the beta period mentioned in the Lang files.

[uncut harness]

How the heck can you tell a exp is locked and loaded

I hope switch gets it right away again lol

[grizzled apex]

I worked with a few people to RE HG's server API a while back, which usually contains this information.

[uncut harness]

Hell yeah

Hope it's something cooler than a redux but the mass effect ship would be a pleasant surprise for most ppl

[sour fossil]

And from that game files perspective, expeditions (especially reduces) consist of reused milestones which are already present in mission tables

All that's needed is a "settings file" that will tell the game how to stitch them together (and define other properties of the exped)

[uncut harness]

Man if all this hype that I admittedly have too participated in is just a redux I'ma feel silly

Atleast I didn't make a pact tho lol

[native carbon]

Hehehe

[glass flare]

I couldn't finish the expedition in time, too stressful for what is already a stressful time. So can anyone give me the low down on what happened in it? I only got 3 phases done

Also I hope those spectral things and all that crafting doesn't portend what the purple worlds will be like. It was seriously a constant stress to have to deal with those things

[valid flume]

walk thru funny portal, kill funny jellyfish, leave and refuse to elaborate in the new ship

[glass flare]

so no hints about future content or further lore?

[valid flume]

Nah not really, boundary horrors are pretty much just your run of the mill "scary" thing they do for Halloween. Kinda like with derelicts and such

[uncut harness]

Still 4 hours left if on phase 3 very easily possible

Unless bad fishing rng

[glass flare]

i was on phase 4. but nah it's 11pm here, and it was stressing me out. and i'm already stressed out

[uncut harness]

I see, the ship worth it imo but your choice

[glass flare]

it would be another ship that sits on my freighter and I never use. yeah it'd be cool but that expedition was giving me anxiety with that meter constantly running down

[analog breach]

The squids say Many small things that u have to put together. Like Drink with us. Artemis is gone. Walls will fall. Dont trust the portals. Lore bits are scattered throughout exp.

[glass flare]

yeah I saw all those

[analog breach]

With each time when u use portal squids talk to u and u have aome dialouge options.

[glass flare]

I see, thanks

[ashen geode]

So, from all the nms ticker lately, PS5 Pro being almost here, mini update on the way? I don't think we're about to see Worlds Part.2 yet since I believe they would have hyped it with emojis, but maybe the PS5 Pro graphic settings and redux expeditions.
Thoughts?

[native carbon]

Ps5 pro version, Beachhead redux aaand maybe new QS items

My prediction

2.5 hours left (i think)

[ashen geode]

I see, yes that sounds like it could happen tbh, I hope to see something too

[ashen geode]

Oh welp, update on PS4!

[vapid crane]

An update is up on PS4 and PS5. Did anybody manage to download it yet?

[dense quartz]

Looks like update 5.25 is out for PS4 and PS5

[uncut harness]

Damn of course Playstation got the update first l9l

[shadow harbor]

i updated but dont see anything new

[wind panther]

check main menu release notes

and the version number in the bottom corner

[shadow harbor]

says expedition

let me see again

[runic parcel]

I'm on ps but I'm trying to figure out which of my multitool modules to lose so I can put these tech modules in

(Since I can just craft the multitool modules again)

[wind panther]

What do those say?

[shadow harbor]

132250 save version 4164

[fleet garnet]

ps5 version for me is 132250; save 4164

[wind panther]

Thanks

[fleet garnet]

updates still shows cursed expedition, though

[shadow harbor]

yea

[valid flume]

Because today is mass effect day

[mental socket]

no cloud save?

[uncut harness]

What's in thr update raaaahh

[wind panther]

There was some datamining and weird save effects related to that Expedition since 5.2, so speculation that it is coming back

Oh, I didn't realize today was ME day. That would actually make sense, if they were able to use it again with licensing

My assumption was that they had a one-time use license

[valid flume]

To be fair, it did run twice

[wind panther]

Oh yeah, I meant once, like that year

[valid flume]

Ah

[fervent fern]

So, for those on PS: do we have patch notes?

[fleet garnet]

no

[uncut harness]

RZAAAAHHHHJ

Post the notes

[fervent fern]

...oh. Ok, thanks!

[grizzled apex]

There's nothing to post

They're the same as the cursed apparently

[uncut harness]

What the

[grizzled apex]

Might be even more minor than we thought haha

[uncut harness]

What if the surprise was there's no suprise.... holy shit

[fleet garnet]

It was a ~3 GB update

[grizzled apex]

Update sizes mean NOTHING due to the way the game's packaged

It has to redownload entire chunks of the game if a single hash updates inside ONE file in a SINGLE chunk

[fervent fern]

They changed version number though... 5.25. Usually there's at least a little changelog

[valid flume]

If it is a redux, the files are likely still in the game. So it would make sense

[uncut harness]

There's gotta be somtn8ng they made a whole news article bragging about a surprise

[wind panther]

surprise(s)

this would be one, and the article wasn't only about that

[grizzled apex]

Might just be a patch to get our build versions up to date with PS5 Pro to keep cross play running honestly.

[fervent fern]

Hmm, would make sense

[wind panther]

wow, 3gb is small

[valid flume]

Has anyone checked Sean's socials?

[wind panther]

Yeah, they auto-post here

[grizzled apex]

Nothing so far

[grizzled apex]

Yea even for PS' inflated download sizes...

[uncut harness]

So a article listing surprises and a 4gb patch is all we have
No notes

Sony better not have lied

[analog breach]

I got 4.120 GB on ps4

[valid flume]

Sony always lies.

[grizzled apex]

Still insanely small for any reasonable content imo...

[glad kernel]

any patch notes?

[wind panther]

Even no content. Even patches are bigger than that 😛

[analog breach]

Yep.

There is always next wednesday

[uncut harness]

Bruh atleast br a exp

All this hype just for Sony to go aha jk

[wind panther]

I think only redux, or redux will be soon

not a new expedition

We already had 5 this year, rather than the normal 4

[analog breach]

132250 ( SV 4164 ) ps4

[valid flume]

This. If it's a redux the files are probably already in game. Just config changes to bring it back. Small patch would make sense

[analog breach]

No menu patchontes

No active exp

[wind panther]

The way the files are stored in NMS, it's extremely uncommon to have anything small in file size, even if it's small in content

[grizzled apex]

In any case, I think we have the smallest version jump w/o increment here haha.

Unless HG's naming quirks did that to some small bug fix patch before 😅

[wind panther]

You can get about 100mb or so for just the EXE, otherwise it's multiple GB

We have had x.x.x.1 before

twice I think

4711 I think? Something like that

[mental socket]

@grizzled apex the broken save my friend had which said it was from a more recent version has now been fixed with the update.

[wind panther]

excellent

[heavy light]

So...what's new?

[grizzled apex]

Sounds good! They did increment the version number, so maybe more checks and balances for saves overall this update?

[wind panther]

A version number, so far

[gloomy isle]

Probably not gonna notice any differences until either PC gets it or someone here actually owns a pro

[wind panther]

Yeah, I'm guessing nothing significant

[grizzled apex]

Oh woah!

[gloomy isle]

From the article it's just resolution, new ultra reflections setting and a few light effects

[grizzled apex]

The cordsplay site is up!

Crossplay

cloud.nomanssky.com

[gloomy isle]

Oooooo

[wind panther]

oh, crosssave finally active?

[analog breach]

Uuuuuuuu

[wind panther]

It's been slowly advancing for a few versions

[uncut harness]

Cross play cool but what about Cross save meaning I can put my switch save on ps4 or ps5?

[wind panther]

That's what this is

But...no Switch...yet

it says 'coming soon'

[uncut harness]

God damnit

I admit crossplay was not what I was expecting but it counts as a surprise

Sony didn't lie

[dense quartz]

Oooo

[uncut harness]

So cross save and a redux or just cross save

[valid flume]

Sony and Nintendo fighting over how much subscription to charge players to actually use cross save

[mental socket]

WTF WHERE?

[wind panther]

Hmm, that sounds like you can'

[uncut harness]

Nintendo cheap like 7 bucks a month @valid flume

[wind panther]

can't do cross-platform

[uncut harness]

Less

[wind panther]

only within the same ecosystem?

[grizzled apex]

cloud.nomanssky.com

[wind panther]

Oh, I might have misread

[valid flume]

Yeah, they're trying to figure out how they can charge more lmao

[hollow crater]

Any news about the content of the new update ?

[wind panther]

You can connect a single account, not "you can connect a single account"

[mental socket]

time to make a HG account!

yippee

[gloomy isle]

Cross save so far. It's not a content update though

[wind panther]

Someone with multiple platforms that aren't Switch, try it out

[hollow crater]

Was Cross save not already present ?

[wind panther]

No

[sour fossil]

So who's gonna try Bobby Drop Tables on the login form?

[wind panther]

Crossplay, but not crosssave

hahaha

[sour fossil]

No seriously

They better have some means to sanitize the data uploaded to clouds

[hollow crater]

It will force Switch version to be up to date.
What a pain for the game future

[sour fossil]

Otherwise everyone running mods with custom items, techs, stats whatever is gonna have troubles

[wind panther]

They wouldn't have put "coming soon" on switch if it weren't guaranteed

[mental socket]

Nice. All linked

[wind panther]

Awesome

Now steam update so Azure can try it

[mental socket]

pls gib updod Sean Murraye from Greetings Videogames Guildford

[uncut harness]

This cool as hell
If there's a exp when will it be active

[wind panther]

There won't be an expedition, but if there were, we wouldn't know

It would probably be right away or next week. But again, I don't think there will be one

[analog breach]

Reruns at best

[uncut harness]

Ah man I was hoping for beachhead lol

[wind panther]

Oh, redux? Yeah, I think that

Within a day or next week

[sour fossil]

I'd like next week more

[analog breach]

Usualy we had reruns later in nov

[wind panther]

Fair point, but we have 5 this time

[sour fossil]

Let players catch a breath from expeds back to back

Maybe even 6 if Beachhead comes back

[wind panther]

Maybe then next week until early Feb?

[hollow crater]

I was seriously hoping for worlds part 2 today. ... seem like it won't be the case

[wind panther]

Yeah, that was always a super long shot

[analog breach]

No breath. Only expeditions

[wind panther]

They wouldn't do a massive content drop this late in the year

They seem to take off December and January, mostly

[uncut harness]

I wouldn't be thinking exp today if it wasn't also mass effect day tbh

[dense quartz]

Considering they originally thought they'd have it out by this summer, I'm surprised it's getting pushed back to next year.

[analog breach]

Oh i forgot to check qs store

[hollow crater]

We are still in November and they seems to do maj on Novemver

[mental socket]

My friend on ps5 did the account linking. Game had no reaction to it. So the functionality didn't arrive in todays update after all...

Or could it possibly be waiting for some server-side check?

[hollow crater]

Foundation, Visions, Synthesis, Next generation were all in November

[uncut harness]

And it do be mass effect day

[sour fossil]

Or maybe the functionality is locked till all platforms get the update

[wind panther]

FYI, I don't own NMS on GoG, but I was able to connect my GoG account

[analog breach]

Ok no community reaserch bar on top of qs shop.

[wind panther]

Expedition stuff does get updated via server, times, details, etc

[uncut harness]

Fingers crossed

[mental socket]

they've never hidden entire UI elements behind server-side lock tho

except for the expedition button being greyed out ofc

[fervent fern]

A bit of a silly question, but cross-save is optional, right?

[grizzled apex]

I mean it's possible, but HG trying to make the UI uncluttered by removing a feature certain people don't use for them isnt common haha

[analog breach]

Huh i can still resume the exp on my main save. Will probably finalize after jumping to exp save

[wind panther]

Yes, you have to do a few steps to enable it

You have to go to the website, link your account, turn it on, upload the save

[mental socket]

So far it seems to be optional

[grizzled apex]

I'm guessing the endpoint which actually handles the cloud saves likely isn't enabled yet / being returned by the Auth sequence, but I'm not at my pc yet to check...

[fervent fern]

Ok, nice, thanks!

[unborn bough]

Soooo! Shit basically. Okay…

[wind panther]

Is this more of the annoying 'Trolling' thing?

le sigh

[unborn bough]

No. I am disappointed.

[mental socket]

Nah. They're literally adding additional server costs without implementing any MT to us players xD

[unborn bough]

I mean, it is nice but.

[mental socket]

it's surprising

[wind panther]

Yeah, I think it's pretty major

functionally

Plus the fact that they again get it tested before LNF

[vapid crane]

Hmmm, I have a theoretical question (which will sound very silly but I'm not tech savvy). Given that HG are aiming to implement cross-save wouldn't that mean that our saves will be on the server? So could it be that they are testing to make updates to the game be loaded onto a server and then unlocked kind of how they do with expeditions? Would that be even possible? That way, folks wouldn't be able to spoil the content, all platforms will have it unlocked simultaneously and it would be harder for data miners to dig into the game files and code which will be helpful especially when Light No Fire releases.

[mental socket]

upkeep of NMS gets more expensive, yet they don't indulge in predatory business models or even dare to try even a healthy and player friendly in-game transaction model. Extremely altruistic in my opinion and hecking awesome

[prime urchin]

Any release is going to contain stuff some people are very excited about that do nothing for others... 'Tis the way of things

[wind panther]

Only the saves you want to upload are uploaded

it's not automatic or constant

or enforced

[unborn bough]

I’m disappointed.
Anyway. NMS

[uncut harness]

Cross save is cool but it's mass effect day please Sean pls

[wind panther]

Do we get groundhog pets on Groundhog Day?

[prime urchin]

I'm slightly dissapointed but pleased for those who would use the new feature 🙂 - same way I felt about VR before I could use it 🙂

[wind panther]

Exactly

I've never used VR and might not ever, but I hear it's cool

[grizzled apex]

Last I checked a while back, the next expedition's scheduled for 2 pm GMT. We'll likely know in 2 hours if they're still on track for beachhead restarting today ...

[mental socket]

All I want from NMS is more story and bigger MP lobbies. Everything else is extra I log in to consume and move to other games.

[prime urchin]

It's amazing, though it WILL make you look for the perfect earthlike planet so you can go for walks 🙂

[unborn bough]

Why am I disappointed though? This is silly, I wasn’t expecting anything at all but we have cross save. Nice 😁

[prime urchin]

I want Worlds part 2 as much as the next bloke, but I can wait - same as that other little game they've talked about 🙂

[uncut harness]

You are amazing a true national treasure

[unborn bough]

15:00 GMT on the server currently.

[prime urchin]

'Do not ignite Combustibles' or something

[unborn bough]

Waiting.

[mental socket]

steam out

[analog breach]

Tameable ground burowers?

Tutel pls

[uncut harness]

Nah screw steam where's the switch version lol 😆 😂

[wind panther]

1.75gb on Steam

launching

[grizzled apex]

Argh, just as I head out haha. Hopefully there's some fun unused stuff to take a look at by the time I'm back haha. I'm sure others will have this thing unpacked fully before that though 😁

[uncut harness]

Pc got a offical release and experimental right away wtf

[mental socket]

coming soon

[wind panther]

graphics changed somehow. I switch to a small window instead of large fullscreen

[uncut harness]

I am rapidly approaching your address

[prime urchin]

Another half hour of optimising my settings maybe lol

[uncut harness]

Damn apple right away too

[runic mesa]

Doesn't it say cross-save beta on the website? Maybe Nintendo will get it after it leaves beta.

[real merlin]

Cross save a thing? How do you choose which saves to keep on multiple platforms?

[mental socket]

All is answered on their site

[grizzled apex]

There should be a cloud save manager UI once you connect your accounts.

[native carbon]

Anything new?

[mental socket]

Steam latest Experimental. No Cloud Save

;-;

didn't get chosen for the beta

Limited number of spaces

[wind panther]

Yeah, I don't think they've enabled it yet

[native carbon]

Whats new chat

[grizzled apex]

I'm still fairly certain that the actual endpoint that handles the saves in game isnt up yet

[native carbon]

Just a cross save?

[wind panther]

Note that they haven't officially announced that function

[mental socket]

cross save and HG cloud account

[grizzled apex]

That'll probably roll out later today or during the week and a timeframe mentioned on the release notes

[native carbon]

Wheres my beachhead redux

[dense quartz]

That button on the left looks more raised up than normal, unless I'm just grasping for any changes.. 😅

[gloomy isle]

Apparently there's some visual change on pc?

I can't check right now

[mental socket]

One new change! There's a new animated loading icon at the bottom middle of the save screen UI! It appears occasionally

this spinny boi

[dense quartz]

That's been there since the Cursed expedition.

[mental socket]

they moved its place from bottom right to bottom middle

[dense quartz]

Ohh

[dense quartz]

I'm more interested in the "patch notes / quit to desktop" button being repositioned differently lol.

Like it's making room for another cloud button or something.

[real merlin]

Hmm might be able to get my legacy saves off my ps5 finally, and play it on steam

[gloomy isle]

Probably a ps5 Pro patch also

[uncut harness]

Everyone join me in group prayer we get a mass effect related exp

Sony did say surprises with a s

[native carbon]

Beachhead redux please

[wind panther]

Yeah, nothing notable in the files

[uncut harness]

A short for no reason exp and Playstation listing surprises with a s I might add

[wind panther]

Files decompiled fine, so no major structural changes

No new models, scenes, images, etc

[dense quartz]

Oh apparently Steam just updated NMS for me. I didn't even see it download.

[analog breach]

Yeah. Imo there will be nothing untill usual rerun time

[runic mesa]

We'll see patch notes in a few hours maybe.

[uncut harness]

Crossplay for mass effect day just don't sit right with me nor is it surprises plural just singular

[native carbon]

Chat Bomber said theres an expedition planned in 2 hours soo maybe

[mental socket]

is this real chat

[native carbon]

Beachhead please

Return

[runic mesa]

Yeah, expeds usually start around 9am EST

[analog breach]

[full peak]

whats in the experimental

[uncut harness]

You can't just say perchance

[mental socket]

No notes for that yet either

[native carbon]

No mans sky the ant update

Jokes aside cross save is amazing

[dreamy quartz]

Did something happen?

[native carbon]

Cross save

[dreamy quartz]

Oh

[native carbon]

Ane maaaybe beachhead rerun

[runic mesa]

PC, Mac, PS4, PS5 updated. But no one else and no patch notes yet. Cross save details are now on the website.

[native carbon]

If beachhead is not today, tjen why cursed was 2 weeks long

[runic mesa]

We probably won't know about Beachhead until 9am EST ish.

The 3 hour gap will give most platforms time to roll out. If Beachhead or holiday redux is indeed happening.

[uncut harness]

ITS MASS EFFECT DAY RAAAAHHHHJ

[wind panther]

Crosssave isn't official yet, fyi. I don't think anyone has gotten it to work yet and it hasn't been announced

[native carbon]

Plot twist its just a random patch and the website was activated by accident

[uncut harness]

And PlayStation lied!!!!

[analog breach]

That would be a suprise indeed

[native carbon]

"Several more surprises"

[analog breach]

Maybe except sony

[wind panther]

Does something link to that website or is it just an active website that isn't advertised somewhere?

Like, how else are you going to test it on public without a public website that isn't advertised somewhere?

[mental socket]

https://www.nomanssky.com

Click the MENU

[grizzled apex]

I don't think it's on the main NMS website yet. I just tested a hunch with the website URL from the unused cloud save text entries added with the cursed to be fair...

[mental socket]

it's on their front page

[grizzled apex]

Oh interesting...

[grizzled apex]

Didn't think they'd push it to the main page without the patch notes being dropped

[mental socket]

NMS Front page

[wind panther]

Excellent, thanks for the info

[mental socket]

in my eyes that's as official as it can get

also rip galactic atlas

[uncut harness]

Lol Facebook groups are funny right now
Seen like 5 posts saying crossplay is not a p5pro suprise

Low-key true but it's not for us to decide what we're given 😂

[surreal terrace]

That's just patch day 😆 everyone decides what HG is working on for them

[wind panther]

"It doesn't count as a suprise because I don't want it"

[mental socket]

average reddit/fb moment

[uncut harness]

It does count as a surprise but they didn't say suprise they said surprises lol

Weird they did this raw no emoji tho

[grizzled apex]

I think Crossplay had a similar surprise drop

[wind panther]

It's not a major or even medium sized update

[grizzled apex]

"Surprise!"

[muted moth]

it's a great feature but yeah it can't be treated in the same way as an expedition or content update

[uncut harness]

I'm reminded of next gen getting a whole update parade when it was just standard next gen features

Crossplay could of got sum lol

Or the nothing sandwich of fractual outside what it did for switch

One hour till the exp is scheduled

[grizzled apex]

Wonder when the patch notes / announcement drops

[wind panther]

Patch literally just came out. Just because you haven't seen anything yet doesn't mean they aren't going to say anything

And isn't out on XBox or Switch yet. They usually wait until at least all but Switch have it

ooop, there's XBox

[gloomy isle]

I mean, there wasn't even a tease

[uncut harness]

Its actually looking good for switch if Xbox has it day 1 tbh usually their delayed too

[grizzled apex]

That's all of the cross-save capable platforms now, right?

[uncut harness]

But where the mass effect celebration

[runic mesa]

Cool, just waiting on Nintendo and GOG now

[viral geyser]

What an odd rollout

You'd think they would have a trailer showing off the pro enhancements or something

[wind panther]

Sigh, it just came out

[runic mesa]

This is normal. Patch notes and announcement always come after the update rollout.

[uncut harness]

Still nothing on switch and my pro still in the mail
I give today a f lol

[runic mesa]

I expect Switch within a few hours.

[uncut harness]

🧐 hmm

I'ma take a nap fingers crossed I wake up to something for n7 day

[runic mesa]

If it's holiday reruns. Switch has always been same day with redux updates.

[uncut harness]

Group prayer session starts at 9 lol

[wind panther]

I expect Switch within a week 😛

[runic mesa]

We have gotten spoiled lately lol

[uncut harness]

Switch weirdly got the egg patch first I had to take pics to prove it

Rare occurrence

[tepid iris]

5.25 gonna be cloud and ps5 pro?

[uncut harness]

Looks like it ya

[tepid iris]

Oh dear for how long this time

I’m until next Friday on holiday

Two weeks are really too short for people on holidays outside the summer like me 😦

[hybrid pendant]

what?

[uncut harness]

I'm confused at what do you mean by what lol

[hybrid pendant]

u mean group player size?

[uncut harness]

No I pray that it's beachhead for n7 day

[hybrid pendant]

oh

ok

tbh i knew that worlds part 2 was delayed to next year once they removed the mention in the patch notes

[valid barn]

lets hope they fix the damn nautilan

[tepid iris]

Ok expedition is just redux now and not a new one ?

Thank God

[hybrid pendant]

yep

see ya next year

[gloomy isle]

@native carbon redux is up

[uncut harness]

Sean came through

My prayers have been answered

Where switch update

[topaz lotus]

i cant see it

[runic mesa]

Beachhead gimmie! C'mon Nintendo

[uncut harness]

I told y'all there was too much evidence

The mass effect update is real

[runic mesa]

Has anyone actually checked for a Switch update? News ticker's been late before. I'm not at home right now

[uncut harness]

Ya it's not there yet

[native carbon]

Yasssss beacheaddd

[topaz lotus]

and where can i see it? on the Select game mode is nothing?

[runic mesa]

Watch them release patch notes the moment I clock into work

😛

[muted moth]

if it's not oon the select mode screen, it's not there for you yet

[topaz lotus]

im also on pc like the img from Devilin

[runic mesa]

Welp, I have to go to work meh

[uncut harness]

There's the chance switch could be delayed because of crossplay too remember echoes

[native carbon]

What rewards do beachhead redux have

[uncut harness]

If we miss beachhead that'll be crazy

[wind panther]

Gunter can't automatically detect Switch updates, I think. They need to be reported by someone then the system manually updated