nms-spoilers

[sour fossil]

So the 1st one could be a smaller content update first

Well depends on how you define summer, the astronomical fall is quite late

[opal mulch]

so it's possible they realized "wait, this isn't releasing before the end of september"

[opal mulch]

when the day marked on the calendar as "first day of fall" comes bro lol

[sour fossil]

I don't think cloud save on its own would get a proper update page since neither did crossplay

So maybe the underwater update? The colours seem like ocean depths

[opal mulch]

the tease is cool and all but i don't think the colors are indicative of anything other than what the cover art looks like. the art isn't necessarily reflective of the update's content

it's usually the screenshot covers, not the art ones, that do that, and those are usually for more minor updates

so there genuinely might not be anything to read into here lol

[ebon spoke]

Origins had way more colourful art than the actual biomes

[opal mulch]

https://twitter.com/bomber_that/status/1821135053474193811

ThatBomberBoi (@bomber_that) on X

#NoMansSkySpoilers Purple Systems loaded in-game, using a direct function hook. It looks like they'd spawn adaptively, replacing certain Phantom Systems. Every single planet in these systems is a dissonant planet, which appears to be a specific override to the planet generation.

Twitter · Aug 7, 2024, 10:43 AM

[sour fossil]

Oh wow, every planet dissonant

Wondering if the ruins would be an override like dissonant is

Then have a combo of infested + dissonant + ruin world

[ebon spoke]

If I had to guess based on the composition, first update cover looks like an in game screenshot (dark ground, asymmetrical) of a landscape. Could be a planet surface or underwater. Second one looks like artwork (more colourful, symetrical) it definitely has something in the upper middle, I feel like I can kind of make out the atlas shape like in the Origins/Frontiers/Echoes art. Third could be either or, but the colours look like an in game screenshot to me

[analog breach]

Phantom systems? That means more star systems per region in vanilla

[sour fossil]

Yup, sounds nice for exploring

[analog breach]

Full dissonant systems. Void Mother is coming...

[opal mulch]

more importantly it means more fundamental changes can be made to the planets that are there without affecting existing bases for most players

since phantom systems are explicitly unsupported content

[grizzled apex]

Yea, HG can control which solar system index onwards spawns these purple systems. Currently they've set it to star systems 1000 and above (which are all Phantom in any Galactic Region), although a few hundred Phantom Systems will probably still remain unaffected.

Plus we don't know exactly how many purple systems HG intends to give us per region anyway

[grizzled apex]

As a test, I set the start index to 10 and total number of purple systems to ~400 and almost all of the normal systems were converted to purple, since most of the star system indexes it hit trying to spawn 400 purple systems fell in the range of normal stars.

[sour fossil]

How do you know the lower bound is around 1k? Pulled from mbins or the exe?

Or some other observation / experience with proc gen?

[grizzled apex]

Hardcoded in the exe

[analog breach]

How big a region is ? Is it 16X16X16?

[grizzled apex]

4096 systems I believe?

[sour fossil]

Yeah that's what I recall

[analog breach]

Ok so 16X16X16

[sour fossil]

If memory serves right only 15% or so of systems in a given region are available to us?

There was this mod that uncapped that limit, forgot the name

[analog breach]

I bet its 16% 😆

[sour fossil]

Something see all stars

[grizzled apex]

Yea there's something in GalaxyGlobals which lets you enable a certain percentage of systems. I tried that initially to get these systems to spawn in before trying the function hook

StarGenerationThreshold ?

[sour fossil]

Hook like what Ray is doing with multiverse?

[native carbon]

I expected something more interesting

[grizzled apex]

Yea, found a function which iterates over all of the galactic regions, getting the pointer to the cGcGalaxyVoxelAttributesData, used libMBIN to find the offset to the fields related to the purple systems before mapping those structs and modifying the data

[native carbon]

Soooo my theory was wrong

Sob

[grizzled apex]

Since the function I'm hooking updates every region, it ends up working pretty close to what I imagine HG would do, although they'd probably vary the amount of purple systems per region than keep it static like I did

[grizzled apex]

Not really, this is technically a really interesting development

[native carbon]

Yeah...

All planets dissonant

[grizzled apex]

There's no special "features" spawning in these systems just yet, but the fact that HG overrides every planet here and regenerates the systems (despite having the same seed) means that they might be looking into new generation rules specific to these systems

[native carbon]

What

Ooh

[grizzled apex]

I tested with a couple dozen purple systems with / without the hook and the number of planets and their seeds were completely different when the system was converted to purple, even though the Phantom Star that it replaced had the same seed and name

[native carbon]

Cool but like seriously? All planets dissonant?

Oh wait im dumb

Nvm

I get u now

[native carbon]

Also, is it possible for HG to just add new planets?

[grizzled apex]

I mean, they could pull another Origins yea

[native carbon]

I mean like

For example system had 2 planets, but after the update it has 3 (new planet)

Not new planet type

[grizzled apex]

Yea, just like origins

[native carbon]

Oh

Theres still a slight chance for them to add deep oceans

[grizzled apex]

Since that'd need new Terrain Gen, I'd think they'd bundle it w/ the Purple Systems if they're working on those already

[native carbon]

I theorized that they would just add new deep ocean planets

[grizzled apex]

All we can do is wait and see 🤷

[native carbon]

Yup, sorry if i was annoying

[grizzled apex]

All good, everyone's got their own ideas and theories on whatever HG's cooking up. It's interesting seeing how they're approaching some of the technical limitations w/ keeping existing things intact.

[gloomy isle]

I wonder if we'll get purple systems next update, but those might get big changes too in later updates?

Basically like a new system type where HG can say it's an unstable system so build at your own risk

Which would kinda open the door for more sweeping changes if they ever wanted to do that

[analog breach]

Imo next update will be small.

Maybe some qol and polishing what is already in the game

[livid zinc]

https://youtu.be/lJjthR1U9r4?si=K48u2T43c34xu6Cl

[icy citrus]

Combine that with free place, rotation and scaling and you don't need near as many glitch building techniques in your bag

[native carbon]

huh?

why

[analog breach]

Add multiple parts marking for copy&paste/ move in 2d or 3d/ delete/ snap to other part.

[analog breach]

Because yearly relase schedule always includes smaller and bigger updates

[native carbon]

i know but like they didnt do updates in parts before

why would they release part 1 and then after couple updates later part 2

i dont understand that ngl

[native carbon]

if thats true then why is it called worlds "part 1"?

[analog breach]

Because they can. They are not tied to any roadmap

They will release worlds part 2 when its ready.

[native carbon]

worlds part 2 will be the next update most likely

because that would just be dumb at least imo

[analog breach]

I dont think so. There is a lot new stuff to polish as it is. But we will see what time brings

[native carbon]

why would they build hype towards part 2 (you know, naming the first part, part 1) just for it to release after like 3 updates

or 2

or 1

[native carbon]

actually if i think about it, u could be right

people would be disappointed but its a free update after all

sorry if i was annoyin

[analog breach]

They changed txt about worlds part2 form "later this summer " to "later" so imo part 2 will not be released right after another.

[dull swan]

so now that i picked the second ending, i said no to atlas, is he still gonna die or something?

or if i did that

its just the end

[dense quartz]

Apparently the art for the 3 upcoming updates Sean teased is Expeditions, Worlds Part 1 and Prisms, blurred and color shifted.

[heady wyvern]

I'm personally thinking it's just because we're on the tail end of summer right now. Can't be sure that they'll get it out by the end of August.

[icy citrus]

By the lore, either way is a yes. Gameplay wise I doubt it ever happens.

[runic mesa]

Still just speculation though. For all we know, that just means it got delayed to September.

[analog breach]

At least

[median brook]

So when we reset the simulation, are we killing everything in that galaxy?

[gloomy isle]

The earliest it could have come out was September anyway

It's still summer till the 20 something and the expedition ends in September too

[gloomy isle]

I very much doubt they'd make a new update in less than a month to fill the gap, instead of just working on part 2

If anything they'd probably roll extra qol into worlds part 2

[ocean tapir]

Hi friends, what happens if I reset the simulation?

[frigid valley]

You'll be given a choice of the type of the galaxy you'll go to

And all your equipped technology will be damaged

You can also refuse and nothing will happen, you'll still be able to travel to other galaxies

[ocean tapir]

Oh alright

[lucid tree]

before u select to reset, switch to the worst ship and multitool you have

so the repairs wont be expensive

[wide goblet]

@lucid tree According to lore cities are always in the process of forming but the sentinels keep picking them apart before they become huge

This is further backed up by player owned settlements constantly being harrassed by sentinel drones

[lucid tree]

oh what a shame tbh

wait i have idea then, just destory the sentinels that are in the system

[wide goblet]

But dont worry it is possible to build a city if not procedurally generated

Theres a way to build over a settlement

[heady wyvern]

That's not quite as easy as you make it out to be.

[lucid tree]

yes but would be a nice thing to do endgame no?

[heady wyvern]

Doing something as drastic as kicking the Sentinels out of a system completely is tantamount to punching God in the eye.

[lucid tree]

would be fun tho

dont you agree

[heady wyvern]

Mayhaps

But I don't see it ever happening, lorewise or otherwise.

[lucid tree]

eh prob but would make no mans sky feel more alive

[runic mesa]

Given that HG went to the trouble of providing an in-universe lore reason for the NPCs being so isolated, it fairly logical to assume cities probably aren't on the cards in the future.

You have a limitation? Use the inspiration to work it into your world building.

[fluid valley]

Engine limitation or because console ?

[analog breach]

Both

[tawdry quarry]

didnt the vykeen almost completely wipe the sentinels out?

[night drift]

yes

[uncut harness]

They did it while listening to cake by the ocean too

[lofty fable]

why do people want cities?

you have so many other things that literally provide the same things that cities would, apart from being eye candy for maybe the first three times you'd see them?

trade posts, space stations, settlements (infinitely better than a city would ever be)

A city would just be a space station on a planets surface. Literally a useless feature to suggest

genuinly curious tho

but i'm telling you, if cities were added, you would visit them twice and never bother again.

[uncut harness]

well the settlements/minor settlements we have already are quite bland

also, i really want to live near major civilization

it’s quite lonely living out on the frontier of every planet

[lofty fable]

understandable

i personally prefer to be away from npc's as much as possible.

[uncut harness]

but, cities are pretty unlikely since i’m not very confident since the engine could hold such a thing

[lofty fable]

i legit solely build bases in uninhabited systems because i'm so damn tired of NPC's and random events

it's a shame that there isn't really a truly empty space free from everything where you can just explore fully on your own

[uncut harness]

haha conflict level 1? HOW COME I KEEP BEING ATTACKED BY PIRATES EVERY 10 MINUTES

average inhabited system experience

[lofty fable]

ONG, and there are other things too, such as ships flying over your head on planets.... WHY?

one of my most hated features

[uncut harness]

lol why do u hate that

it’s like airplanes irl!

[lofty fable]

because it happens ALL the time, every planet, doesn't matter where you land, it happens ALWAYS.

it's so immersion breaking

[uncut harness]

i like seeing the frigates fly overhead

[lofty fable]

i just want to explore and be alone

it bothers me so much that every systems is already pre discovered by NPC's

[uncut harness]

that is a big thing about this game

apparently the whole universe is yours to explore but

no the silly lizard men took over everything

and the funy robots

and the funy gorillas

[lofty fable]

it's just so annoying. i'm on quest to find the most earth-like planet but it has to be in an uninhabited system

practically impossible

[uncut harness]

are u in an empty galaxy?

[glass flare]

There are systems which have no NPCs in them, if you want that experience

[lofty fable]

because it's mostly red stars that are empty, and then very little blue and green stars

but paradise are mostly (not entirely) found in yellow systems, which are always inhabited

[lofty fable]

there are no empty galaxies

how do you mean

[lofty fable]

i'm in a lush galaxy if that's what ur asking

[uncut harness]

first paragraph

[lofty fable]

ye but those galaxies aren't empty as in empty, it's actually just full of dead planets iirc

with npc's everywhere

[uncut harness]

oh

[glass flare]

there might be a mod to turn off NPCs elsewhere, if you're on PC

[lofty fable]

ye so how lush systems got more paradise, empty has more empty ones

that's true

[keen jungle]

ha

hai

[uncut harness]

Is the overseer a first spawn gek? The farmer was really worried about him

[glass flare]

I like the theory that the Overseer is an agent of the Void Mother

[uncut harness]

so the next three updates were teased recently?

[gray leaf]

no they weren't.
All we have is an update called worlds part 1, Sean saying it's worlds part 1 because they couldn't fit everything they were working on in this update, and the patch notex saying more was coming in sep.
Patch notes were already ammended to say "coming soon" instead.

Theories about anything being 3 part came from the whole posting 3 emojis thing (which has also happened in the past and meant nothing), and are for the most part speculation, so that's to take with a grain of 🧂

[uncut harness]

Well he did post something with three blurred out photos?

[uncut harness]

https://x.com/NoMansSky/status/1821995386896314705

[glass flare]

I think they just put them there to fill out the empty space and also say "more is coming". The only thing Sean has specifically teased is Worlds Part 2

[gray leaf]

I would also not think they would already have the cover posters/art for 3 updates ahead, but could be possible.
what solarparty says is the reasonable explanation tho

[uncut harness]

The first blurred one does kind of look like an alternate of Expeditions.

[smoky thorn]

a vykeen is asking me to give him something with my multitool. carbon, sodium or metal. he's looking at my mining beam charge indicator. do i give him carbon because that is what charges it?

[lofty fable]

saw a tweet about the blurred out images. one of them when color corrected looks exactly like the prisms update image

[shell rover]

source?

[lofty fable]

cant be bothered to find it lol

it's the yellow image tho if u wanna take a look urself, it's visible even without color corrected

[glad palm]

This is haunting:
'Open the gate,' they commanded, stepping forward to the terminal.

Silence.

'Telamon,' they whispered, 'Telamon - help me activate his terminal. I need to get out - '

Silence.

A thousand years passed.

[median brook]

is there a way to tell what type of simulation we reset to if we forgot lol, cause i did it 2 yrs ago and do not remember at all

[frigid valley]

Afaik not really

Reset is a reset, there are no types. You just get to choose to which type of galaxy you'll go to after you reset the simulation

Nothing else changes

You can still visit other galaxies, this just allows you to skip a couple of them if you want to go to a specific type

[median brook]

i could have sworn i could pick one that had like more stormy planets, or more lush planets, etc., though this was 2 yrs ago

[frigid valley]

Yeah those are galaxy types

During the purge mission if you decide to reset you can choose a type of a galaxy the reset will take you to

Harsh spawns more extreme hazards planets, lush more lush

Use !faq-galaxies command in #bot-spam if you need more info.

But reset itself is always the same and you can still visit all other galaxies after it

Or even before the reset

[median brook]

okay that makes sense, im just having bad luck here in Eissentam then lol

[frigid valley]

If you're looking for a lush planet then eissentam should do

Aim for yellow star systems with a lot of planets to increase your odds

[median brook]

yeah thats what im doing currently

so many of them have too many mountains for good base building imo

also looking for one with cool effects like bubbles or something hehehe, making it harder i know

[fresh maple]

Whats the deal with Apollo. I've followed the story but i can't get a grasp on him. what is his standing in the universe, is he bad or good? what are his goals?

[drowsy dune]

There is no such thing as good or bad

[wild star]

he's chillin

[livid zinc]

1st blurred picture is expeditions, 2nd is atlas rises, 3rd is prisms

[shell rover]

2nd is way too color different to be atlas rises

Same prisms

1st got the shape right but it is def more greenish than expeditions

He couldve just changed the colors and used them as placeholders though

But then there wouldnt be any point of teasing if they didnt make the posters yet

[shrewd anvil]

can we talk about how much of a hippocrite null is?

bro really crys about the player resetting the simulation, that he doesnt wanna get wiped and it should be him doing it when his done it multiple times. like BRUH

[livid zinc]

I am not sure what it means but the origin of them is the 3 pics I mentioned

Place them side by side

[dense quartz]

I guess the experimental branch got updated and reverted the amazing change that fixed the shadows.
Cause now they're back to how they've been for years again.

[uncut harness]

U got a pic of when they were fixed?

[dense quartz]

I took this a few days ago. The character is actually dimly lit instead of pitch black.

I really hope they fix it back... and fix it in Light No Fire, you can see the same issue in the trailer and made me think it was a very weird look they were going for instead of a bug.

[gloomy isle]

I don't think I've ever had this issue

Weird

Ah no I kinda see it on my screenshots yeah

[dense quartz]

Yeah... I have no idea how, but I feel like I'm the only person in the community who sees that every shadow in the game is pitch black.

Like, it's way too dark. Even Light No Fire has it in it's trailer.

And somehow no one notices it.

I feel like a crazy person lol.

[glad jackal]

I thought it was a style they were going for, huh...

[gloomy isle]

Tbf, experimental specified reflections looking too dark in the changelog

So it might just be something that varies location to location?

Cos this was from worlds launch day

[dense quartz]

Yeah when I looked at what they meant by reflections, I saw the shadows finally got fixed.
But now they're broken again.

It really is a thing across the whole game though. And it's purely dependent on the sun.

Like if you're in a space station where there's lights all around you, you'll be super dark in one specific side.
If you go into camera mode and move the sun around even if you can't see it and the lighting isn't changing, the dark shadows around your character will move.

[candid moon]

guys which ending is the best ?

[icy citrus]

The one you choose

[mossy prairie]

Hey, what was the name of the Liquidator guy from the expedition storyline? The Liquidator we're following as we do the quest.

Liquidator #1234 or whatever, what was the number?

[wet pier]

Nothing between 12 and 16?

[analog breach]

Nope

There are speculations that there is 4 letter word missing

[normal edge]

I've always wondered about this but never bothered to look into it

Thank you lol

[potent rock]

I hope that the next update will be about the void

[valid barn]

void mother brain?
tie-in to Metroid series!

[analog breach]

Brain is not 4 letters , Go figure .

[valid barn]

13 14 15 16 17

[analog breach]

17 IS the ???

[opal mulch]

i think it was 3813G

[valid barn]

wolf? dies? ship? tape? eggs?

[gloomy isle]

I love how a side encounter is literally helping a Vy'Keen to use a dating app

[shrewd anvil]

when doing the autophase quest "prayers of the machine" just thought it was intresting that is binary says "She Lives" aka she lives refering to "void mother"

[shrewd anvil]

well would make sense for 12 to be the same as 6

for the space

unless its like void mothership or something

"she is near"

wish i had gotten the first 2 before deciding to get the msg

im dumb legit the next line decodes it LOL

[valid barn]

We wuz Travelerz

void mother null?

because pun

[cloud jolt]

@valid barn

No gifs in this channel please

[eternal radish]

🤣🤣🤣

[pliant aurora]

Underwater settlements would be pretty sick if we're getting deeper oceans

[sour fossil]

@mortal laurel

[mortal laurel]

oh yeah, i see .25

must be it then

on "ExperienceDefeatBugQueenRewardChance"

[sour fossil]

Yellow means it's a new property added with Worlds update so yeah, prolly refers to killing brood mothers

[icy citrus]

FiendSplatDelay

[honest grove]

gun

[mossy prairie]

That was it, thank you!

[crisp dome]

I have a question what will happen if u let Artemis live ?

[frigid valley]

Upload artemis and you'll get a couple of interactions with them, they will call you

Let them die and you won't

Rest remains unaffected

[glass flare]

you will have passed the test and may go with Frodo to the land of the elves

[stray slate]

question, what is the role of the sentinels exactly?

they seem to uphold the law yet when we defeat them we gain favor from the faction of the system

[shrewd anvil]

yeah as of rn its not really a viable thing to try and build a large scale base underwater as you are limited on space without a lot of digging, unless u make a hybrid base on the suface

[shrewd anvil]

sentinals are kind of the police of the systems, they work for the atlas to try and keep its creations from being tampered with. they are a sort of "hive mind" that relays info back and forth to the pillars and in turn the pillars store it for the atlas database. corrupted sentinals are alittle diffrent and youll notice some the autophage race heads are sentinal bodys reused as a head meaning the autophase has been either killing them or maybe just the vykeen (since they are the only ones that HATE the sentinals while gek and korvax both worship atlas and see the sentinals as apart of it)

thats as far to my knowlage

why u get standing for anyone but the vykeen for killing them is beyond me and isnt really with the law but against it

as you are getting rep for killing something the gek and korvax praise but they like when you kill them? haha

also not sure if i should put this in spoilers but cause its to do with the autophase.

i made this base when i first started a new save and i came back to build an oxygen harvester and didnt realised but i did a scan and autophase are now in my base LOL

im protecting them from the elements

even know its a paradise planet

[valid barn]

i didn't know tents were an option

[bronze arrow]

They're not. It's part of the autophage camp

[scenic flume]

The tent in that picture is due to it being an autophage camp, but you can place it yourself too... it is in the quicksilver shop iirc

either that or an expedition reward, but I think the quicksilver shop

[runic mesa]

Voyagers expedition reward, I believe.

[astral zealot]

Sentinels are disconnected from the Atlas already right?

trying to work stuff out so i can accurately go wild with Sentinels for a fanfic

[jade hawk]

lmao

[uncut harness]

damn atlas really about to erase you for that

[pale hazel]

i can already hear it saying
" i should not have let you cook "

[fair raptor]

if i reset the simulation, do quests reset too? like the starbirth quest for example

[sour fossil]

No but it's not recommended to mix Starbirth with resetting the simulation

You'll be better off finishing Starbirth and other quests within timers before doing the thing

[fair raptor]

okay i'll make sure to do that thanks, The Purge is telling me to go through a portal and Starbirth is telling me to go through a portal as well lol

hopefully i'll be able to put in the starbirth glyths and do that first

[sour fossil]

Yeah super not recommended to mix going through portals for different quests

[fair raptor]

yeah don't have a choice atm though because that is where both quests are at the moment but if i can use the starbirth glyphs without The Purge automatically progressing that'll be good

[fair raptor]

yeah sweet i can enter the symbols i want to so i can do the starbirth one first

[spring field]

What has the best outcome when it comes to Artemis, Stick him in a simulation or end his suffering?

[sour fossil]

No gameplay difference whatsoever

Do what you think is right for them

[spring field]

Uploaded him to the simulation 😄

[ionic violet]

okay so no milkyway galaxy?

i wanna see Earth 😭

[heady wyvern]

Unfortunately, that's just how the NMS cosmology pans out.

[ionic violet]

any well populared Earth like planet?

with barren moon ofc

cuz im tired of livein in whiteouts😭

[mental socket]

There's a thingy for that. Google earth! In all 3D fancyness

[ionic violet]

no i mean i wanna colonize it wit nip nip

NIP NIP

[fair raptor]

pick a green galaxy when you restart the simulation and you'll be more likely to find earth like planets

[ionic violet]

oke

[fair raptor]

planet type of "paradise" usually works

[ionic violet]

but the thing is i wanna enjoy the looks with fellow gek while we smoke NIP NIP

[fair raptor]

then stand next to your base construction NPC

[jade hawk]

lmao it was a different person's discovery in the liquidators expedition

[clear spire]

If I choose to reset the simulation, will I still have everything I have?

I got all this way to get the glyphs for the last step in the Living Ship mission

Will I still be able to traverse the galaxies normally?

[jade hawk]

ya fr tho i made a mistake resetting the simulation with my s class sentinal ship- i desperately want my ship back

[clear spire]

Just refused

Was too worried. lol

[jade hawk]

keep in mind, dont reset with all your best stuff equipped, thats all ima give you

[jade hawk]

i just realized it came across as if it deletes stuff, it doesnt delete lol

[valid barn]

does Atlas ever tell the truth?

[gray leaf]

Atlas tells nothing but the truth

[glass flare]

Atlas probably used to tell the truth but went rampant at some point, and got rid of Telamon who was responsible for guarding against AI rampancy

[upper current]

||night is darker than the day||

[valid barn]

that actually fits with my headcannon theory that the main character is a supercolony of nanites piloting a dead traveler's space suit.

[upper birch]

can i do altas path after the purge ?

[red raft]

Hey guys, It's been ages since I last played atlas rises and I'm watching a firend of mine play it for the first time. I was wondering, who did Apollo take revenge on?

[long anchor]

What did null do?
I've once again passed the point in The Purge where they last try to stop you from approaching the center, and I'm a bit lost on what atrocities were committed

[glass flare]

allegedly killed other Travellers and devoured their souls

[halcyon pond]

Clarity. Truth. Actuality. Pusugi.

[valid barn]

Can I learn this skill?

[glass flare]

You should ask Atlas

[hollow jetty]

Are autophages different from sentinels?

And I think I remember the story saying that sentinels used to be good

[glass flare]

the Autophage are some of the original Korvax

[hollow jetty]

sentinels are very weird. They are fine if you touch them, jump on them, use their ships, have their brains and pillar locations while cargo checking you, when you use terrain manipulator, but can get so triggered when you touch a plant, scratch the space station

[tawdry quarry]

"Only we can massacre things"

[hollow jetty]

i think using terrain manipulator is the most damaging thing of all, and using blaze javalin on the corrupted digging stuff they are fine with it but using mining beam makes them angry

And then when taking down a capital ship, I destroy a turret right after which seems to have this lasting impression that offends them so they cant forget about me and don't retreat

Seems like their feelings can get hurt

Sentinels have multitools, and even a jetpack which means human forms of them should exist

They are also fake friends sometimes when they seem distressed but don't offer anything in return and just waste your time by leaving

[pseudo drum]

what missions gives me glifs

@hollow jetty

[sour fossil]

You learn the glyphs during The Purge mission at the end of Artemis Path

Altenatively you can collect glyphs from Traveller NPC graves, you can find Travellers on space stations (or rarely in planetary PoIs) and ask them where did they came from

[lucid marsh]

Am i mistranslating here or are the living shards on dissonant worlds autophage still trying to build a body?

[balmy helm]

Always darker before the dawn you mean.

[valid barn]

but if I can't kill them, how do I get the glyph from them on the station?

[lapis swan]

uhm.. does this option have any future effect on story?

[icy citrus]

No

[valid barn]

nothing ever has any effect on the story, thats why it sucks

[urban oak]

They are already dead, when you talk to them in the station, they give you the location of their grave.

[versed meadow]

What's with the random huge update on ps5 today?

Anyone know?

[sour fossil]

!whatsnew

[cloud jolt]

Update 5.05: https://www.nomanssky.com/2024/08/worlds-part-1-5-05/
Trailer https://youtu.be/s7-9Bf47yfs
Deep Dive https://youtu.be/XmU3_6BK-Ro

-# See release log. Grab #roles for #nms-announcements pings. Check #nms-news-ticker or run !NmsVersions for latest platform updates.

[valid barn]

is there a lore reason why exocraft are restricted to freighter owners?

[gloomy isle]

They're not

[versed meadow]

You can just build the summoning station on a planet.

[versed meadow]

For a patch it's mighty big. But thank god. Some of those things have been real annoying.

[urban oak]

You can build a summon pad so long as you learned the recipe from the Anomaly. The freighter build part removes the need to put a summon platform down on every planet. You just need at least one platform down anywhere and the freighter build part will allow you to call in your exocraft so long as your freighter is in the system.

[valid barn]

i dont want to buy it at walmart

[urban oak]

If you don't have the recipe to build the platform, you can't summon an exocraft.

[valid barn]

i also dont want a freighter

[urban oak]

With no recipe to build the initial summon platform you are out of luck. You also don't need a freighter for the initial platform.
Freighters are meant to be bases you bring with you everywhere

[valid barn]

yeah... I still dont want any bases

[sour fossil]

A friendly reminder that this chat is meant for lore spoilers / datamined info, not for any kinds of takes how game should or should not function

[valid barn]

did they ever come up with a lore reason why every starship automatically has a hyperdrive when you finally learn the recipe for it?

[rough copper]

A wizard did it

[gloomy isle]

If you're super intent on not engaging with the core mechanics it's pretty easy to just keep the mats in your inventory since dismantling the pad with fully refund everything

There's no lore explanation to the freighters summoning them aside from they just have the same summoning stuff as the summoning pad you can make

[opal mulch]

seems pretty straightforward that they're standard tech and yours being broken/gone during the tutorial is strictly a "you problem"

[valid barn]

that still doesn't explain why no other ships in the system has one untill you can make it

no other ships has a hyperdrive till you learn the recipe, then the recipe is useless except for the few ships you currently own. if you only have one ship, the recipe is only useful once. ever

from that point all starships has a hyperdrive, meaning you never need the recipe.

[gloomy isle]

It's just a gameplay thing

If you disable the tutorial everything has a hyperdrive from the beginning

Also pretty sure the recipe itself is mainly there just as a tech crafting tutorial

[valid barn]

that's my point. it has no usefulness afterwards

[frigid valley]

"Existence is beautiful, if you let it be. Life is not a question. There does not need to be an answer."

[gloomy isle]

Other than if you dismantle it yeah

But it doesn't really need to be useful either way

[frigid valley]

Sometimes it's just "games logic", necessary part for a game to be playable

[gloomy isle]

^

[valid barn]

its not like you ever meet an NPC from another system. it makes sense that you could need to install it on any new ships you buy or find

[gloomy isle]

That would just be suoer unfun and wouldn't make gameplay sense

It would add nothing since you can just warp in your freighter anyway

[valid barn]

some people like to grind.

[gloomy isle]

Plus you see plenty of npcs travel between systems

[valid barn]

not in starships you dont

and freighters don't even appear in the game till you can warp to other systems

so again it makes no sense either in game or from gameplay that no starships have hyperdrive and suddenly all of them have it

I've already told HG this and I guess I was ignored

[glass flare]

they probably did that so people wouldn't bypass the early game tutorial missions

[valid barn]

I get that but why add it to every starship afterwards?

just makes earning it pointless

[glass flare]

well, it's basic tech. you still have to add warp upgrades every time to let you travel to other star types, so it's not like they give you the whole warp enchilada for free

[gloomy isle]

You don't even have to earn it though

[frigid valley]

@valid barn Alright, you might not like it. That's understandable. However thats not the reason to keep calling it pointless. It has a point, it's part of the tutorial so the player can learn how things work. You can always skip it if you don't like it. Option is there

This discussion is going in circles and it has nothing to do with channels topic. Let's just cut it here and move on

[unborn bough]

Not NMS related whatsoever, @untold brook

[untold brook]

😆 I know

[dreamy quartz]

This guy has been complaining all day. Not you, the guy you're responding to. Every channel he complains about something in the game

It's getting annoying. Like just don't play if you don't like it

[frigid valley]

I get that it's annoying, but

• I would appreciate if you don't post things like that in public chat. It can lead to unnecessary drama. Use #contact-us or report users message by pressing on it -> apps -> report to moderator

• I am awere of users previous posts, if this continues appropriate actions will be taken.

But it's not a topic for this channel so let's move on

Lore, data mined content and other spoilers forwards

[ionic violet]

whats the new update about

havent updated

[analog breach]

!whatsnew

[cloud jolt]

Update 5.05: https://www.nomanssky.com/2024/08/worlds-part-1-5-05/
Trailer https://youtu.be/s7-9Bf47yfs
Deep Dive https://youtu.be/XmU3_6BK-Ro

-# See release log. Grab #roles for #nms-announcements pings. Check #nms-news-ticker or run !NmsVersions for latest platform updates.

[long anchor]

i'm brainless
brainless brainless flat
who wrote the base computer archives? I have all of them now but i'm having trouble making sense of things

[bright ruin]

are the gek still butthurt for what the korvax did to them? and why didn't the first spawn kill the vykeen?

[analog breach]

More like the other way around. The korvax where enslaved by geks

[lofty fable]

good reminder that the lore is so bad

[hot niche]

Might be the whole nanites into spawning pool thing, and if that’s the case, then most gek don’t really care because they were basically programmed not to

[glass flare]

and now Void Mother wants to reprogram everything with nanites

probably

[gray leaf]

sounds canon-like enough

[ebon glade]

I wanna' say the Gek kinda' act like how Japan did post WW2.
Where they're just tryna push everything under the rug, and pretend it never happened, and attrocities? What attrocities

[bright ruin]

yeeeeeeeeah

[bright ruin]

ah

[ebon glade]

First Spawn version of Unit 731 when.
Gek learn that the Korvax are made out of 70% hydrogen.

[pliant kiln]

The first spawn is toooooo racist

[subtle gorge]

Yea thats kinda their thing

[lethal vine]

Does anyone know what world's part 2 might hold?

[glass flare]

check the first pin. it's all just based on datamining, we have no guarantees yet

[drowsy dune]

But they got that golden drip

[pliant kiln]

Id still kill em

[drowsy dune]

If you target them

Then your killing based on race

Meaning your no different

[pliant kiln]

Ots not based on race

Its based on faction

Or

Beliefs

[drowsy dune]

They have been exterminated for millennia tho

[pliant kiln]

Yuh

[analog breach]

Huh. Never noticed the nms letters. It says FBT. Or 1BT bc f and 1 look the same

[drowsy dune]

You fluent in galactic?

[analog breach]

Kinda

[drowsy dune]

Oh it’s definitely 1

It’s 1st

[analog breach]

Gunter is more fluent than i am.

[analog breach]

The s was not clear enough and looked like a b

[pliant kiln]

1 byte?

Oh

I just read the rest

:/

Also i think 1 is darker then f but i dont know for sure

[stray slate]

So i've just finished the quest where you go to cartographers of each species

if i understand this correctly

korvax were the first to be conceived by atlas yes?

or were they all conceived at the same time?

anyways, the korvax were enslaved by the first spawn, the korvax then melt themselves to reprogram the new spawn

where is the vykeen in all of this?

[gentle salmon]

They just exist I guess

[stray slate]

lol, they exist, started a war with the sentinels, and became massive gek haters, hahahaha

[gentle salmon]

Tf is new beginnings even for?

[sour fossil]

It serves as a reminder that you're done with the main story line

[stray slate]

guys, which galaxy is the most populated as of now?

heck, can anyone spoil me about these galaxies?

[carmine apex]

First reset?

[stray slate]

yup

people said eissentam is the second most crowded as of now, which one is it?

[carmine apex]

Green is Eissentam, lots of mush, greeny planets

[stray slate]

ooooh, ok

what can you tell me about the other three tho?

[carmine apex]

red is harsh planets

blue is empty, cold planets iirc

cyan is normal, same as before

[opal mulch]

eissentam did attract more attention with worlds because it's where a lot of people were searching for floating islands planets

[stray slate]

and here we go again!

and cheesed it too, ehehehehehehehe

take that end of the world!

[real sapphire]

@stray slate sorry was at work, but yea, eissentam is more populated that other 3 choices.

Yellow stars have more lush/swamp worlds in Eissentam, up to 4 per system.

However, red, green and blue stars have normal chance

[stray slate]

neat

sooo

what did null do exactly that made them a murder hobo?

or are they just that, a murder hobo?

i don't really remember atlas telling us to go murder a lot of people

[runic mesa]

There are a chunk of people in Calypso though. Some players like hostile worlds.

[sly girder]

if i understand it correctly, if the simulation is reset everyone forgets about the player right?

[stray slate]

yoooo

the autophage are the korvax diverters?

cool

if they are, they missed the opportunity where i could give this to them

[valid barn]

not possible to target any NPCs

[drowsy dune]

No one said it was ?

[stray slate]

well, we meet again old friend

sooo

void mother

is she an actual rogue ai?

from atlas?

[latent trellis]

very conflicted, at a point where I have to choose to upload Artemis to a machine or end their suffering

I just read through a few reddit threads and am no closer to making a decision. What's the best option?

[rustic salmon]

Has there been a translation of what Apollo means when they say "aun ciygn rim darwa ienn. Aun umer Aun Ciygn spar umer"

[urban oak]

It's just a personal choice.
In the end, it may or may not add some dialogue later in the story based on your choice, but in the end there is no real changes based on your choice.
Pick what you want to do.

[stray slate]

wait a second

i've just realized the obvious, the autophage and the corrupt sentinels are supposed to be viruses, but how does a closed system get viruses?

[gray leaf]

Not virus. more like corrupt data that eventually assembles into rogue programs

sentinels also worked for the atlas

[heady wyvern]

Huh

I just realized, couldn't you technically call stuff like the Sentinels or the Void Mother "data cancer?"

Rogue data/cells that develop corruptions/mutations that causes them to become harmful to the system/organism?

[stray slate]

but they do use virus idioms tho, i guess the system visualizes them like that

[gray leaf]

i feel void mom basically evolved into a trojan program.
born out of corrupt data, in such advanced system it assembled itself into it

[stray slate]

i wonder whether that's what the simulation do, conceptualize and visualize every string of data

it's like super mario n64

where if you do specific movements, you can materialize things out of thin air

ooh ooh, or like those people who can program things in super mario world

imagine, by only moving certain ways or doing certain tasks, you can materialize anything out of thin air

[valid barn]

I thought the point was Artemis already was uploaded, and your choice is to update or let her die

[valid barn]

bad sectors on the hard drive, more like

[paper meadow]

If Hirk was the creator God of Vy'Keen then why does a V'ykeen claimed that the V'ykeen came before Hirk?

[valid barn]

no he's more like Khaless

culturally transformative hero

[gray leaf]

Hirk falsely ascended to almost deity status due to his lies and manipulation.
Large portion of the vy'keen tales about Hirk are probably just urban myths

[valid barn]

do they have access to their own lore?

its not like we ever see them visiting any of those ancient places

[gray leaf]

yea they probably don't. Or maybe they are indoctrinated and kept away from since childhood, and told the usual good stories about Hirk.
When you present a certain vy'keen with piece of knowledge that contradicts things and shows the true side of Nal, they just consider them lies, forged, illegal or blasphemous even.

[versed oxide]

So korvax are transformers and korvax prime is cybertron? Lol

I just hacked a sentinel pillar, and a dialogue appeared about the korvax, that their planet was alive and that reminded me of transformers

[rustic salmon]

Oh god atlas path goes full Evangelion with the atlas spheres lmaooo

[valid barn]

I keep comparing Atlas to Yaldabeoth but Gnosticism is an obscure sect so no one gets the reference

[rustic salmon]

tbf you do have to be a bit more specific as gnosticism refers to a lot of different sects

[valid barn]

the demiurge

[rustic salmon]

I know

[valid barn]

the false god who created everything because the perfect god had no interest in doing so

[rustic salmon]

but not every gnostic cult/sect viewed demiurge the same or even considered it

[valid barn]

I never heard of those others

[rustic salmon]

gnosticism is just an over arching term for like hundreds of different cults/sects

[valid barn]

it can be

but I was being specific

[rustic salmon]

okay which of the major gnostic sects were you refering to then? Elkesaities? Valentinianism? hermeticism?

Manichaeism?

[valid barn]

idk, the one that named Yaldabeoth

[rustic salmon]

So three sects use the name Yaldabeoth, Sethian, Archontic, Ophite.

[valid barn]

I like you

[rustic salmon]

You are pretty cool too

[valid barn]

most people here just think all I do is complain

[rustic salmon]

Mmm I haven't really talked with you much to form an opinion, but so far you seem cool

[icy citrus]

That's nice, let's reel it back to NMS spoilers though

[valid barn]

send me a dm if you want

[rustic salmon]

Anyways I was saying Evangenlion because on the atlas quest one of the atlas spheres has three T posing bodies floating infront of the sphere and that really reminds me of something in Evangelion

[hot gust]

Darn. If it was safe to call this a non-spoiler, I'd so post this in the gallery to get it into the louvre.

[valid barn]

really the whole "worship me" thing is why I don't want to even bother playing the story

[valid barn]

what would it be spoiling?

[hot gust]

Potentially people who are doing Prayers of the Machine.

[valid barn]

?

[hot gust]

Post-main story questline.

[valid barn]

and?

because it shows a partial address?

[hot gust]

No, because it hints at the interaction with the Atlas.

[valid barn]

why would that be a spoiler?

[hot gust]

Why would it not be?

Better be safe than sorry.

[gloomy isle]

It's a special portal colour which is used only at the end of the quest

Tbf it's not too clear in the image

[valid barn]

oh. I never used one

[hot gust]

Eh. With the apparent vagueness of the spoiler, I guess it'll be safe enough to share in normal chats.

[gloomy isle]

Probably

I don't see the purple monoliths being kept here so the portals should be fine too

[valid barn]

purple monoliths?

[gloomy isle]

Yeah you get them after the same quest

You get Atlantid multitools from them

[valid barn]

oh

its like a disonant thing?

[gloomy isle]

Yeah. You feed monoliths in Korvax systems with Atlantideum and they turn purple

I think they have their own lore too iirc

[valid barn]

interesting

is there a similar thing with other race systems?

[gloomy isle]

It's Korvax only because of their association with the void mother

There's purple electricity and stuff in the air too

[valid barn]

and does that also have different puzzles too?

[gloomy isle]

It's a seperate bit of the monolith you have to interact with and charge it like a portal

I'm not 100% sure if it has puzzles but there's definitely stuff to read

[valid barn]

ok

[gloomy isle]

This is the multitool type

They're procedural

each has a portal glyph on it too

[glass flare]

speaking of procedural, I really really hope Worlds Part 2 gives us a procedural ship class of the hovering Wipeout ship. Since they added the hover upgrade module and seems like they're going to do some ocean features, it would make some sense to have a ship class that hovers by default. Maybe even doubles as a submarine...

that design style is so cool and it's sad that it's limited to one bespoke ship

[opal mulch]

@sweet pebble what's been discovered so far is a new type of star system with new code in weights for certain spawns specific to it, along with stellar materials and hyperdrives associated with it, alongside some unfinished new creature types, 5 biomes in various states of completion, a new DeepWater region type for planets, and 3 of the aforementioned biomes are underwater ones. some of those biomes are very complete if loaded ingame currently

this all might be old news to you if you've looked in here, but what's less widely talked about is the fact that purple stars seem to be intended to replace and reseed many of what are currently phantom stars, and make them visible on the galaxy map. reseeding can happen selectively, so it's possible - in my opinion, even likely - that only systems that are currently inaccessible by normal means will be reseeded in worlds part 2

[slate plaza]

wrong ping 💀

but thanks

[opal mulch]

SHIT

my bad other milk bro

[slate plaza]

no worries. not as bad as people thinking im named after the galaxy or the candy...

[opal mulch]

you simply have milky ways about you

[slate plaza]

if you do care to know i am named after a bossfight song that was featured in JSAB(Just Shapes And Beats) called Milky Ways: https://open.spotify.com/track/4Lh9y6lykMrLL3MBhx0CeO?si=cbf5bc5d952f4cc2

@opal mulch

[opal mulch]

oh, i see. cool

[supple pivot]

guys, should i reset the simulation?

what it does? 😢

[urban oak]

All it does is send you into the next galaxy.
So long as you have a Base Computer set down in each galaxy, you can freely travel between galaxies.

[fervent fern]

That being said, don't worry if you don't have a base on Euclid (pretty rare, but I guess it can happen) -- it's by far the easiest galaxy to reach for obvious reasons lol.
Almost all player bases will send you back there.

[valid barn]

it doesn't do anything else? like maybe finally get Atlas to fuck off?

I really want there to be some kind of eventual consequence for being non-compliant at the very beginning of the game when you first find your ship

[small nova]

whats there to do after you do all the missions and get to the next galaxy? S class ships Auto phage....

[analog breach]

U can try to complete the catalouge

[warm tapir]

build base

do expeditions

[clear moon]

How much vile brood do you need to kill to get the last insect helmet?

[sour fossil]

It's not based on amount

Each kill has 25% to award one of 4 helmets

[late tusk]

25%? it took me 10 kills to get ONE

[heady wyvern]

Probability is strange like that.

[analog breach]

Crush grub, shoot paralisis mortar, spam plasma launcher.

[fervent fern]

Got one helmet after the very first battle... but did something around 20 to get all of them

[gloomy isle]

I'm curious to see if part 2 really has been delayed or if they just didn't want to promise it would he out in summer

[barren garden]

If they were smart, HG wouldn't explicitly mention a release date they weren't reasonably sure of... and we know how often a platform or two gets updated released a week or four late, or just outright doesn't get a particular update every other platform does

[stray slate]

wait wait wait wait, i just got a line from the voice of the hive, null is part of the void/abyss? Is that why null was rejected by atlas?

[sour spade]

I think it would be cool if artemis turns out to be both apollo and null, or that every single traveler is the same entity, either reborn, or turned into something new by other versions of themselves

[icy citrus]

You are in luck

[fervent fern]

I have a feeling that getting it right after the expedition would be unusually soon, but... who knows how far they were in the pt2 development when they released pt1.

My wild shot is october, but I'd be very glad to see it in september...

Would make sense for other reasons too.

If the game is going to iPads and possibly iPhones, I guess HG would want to line up the news with Apple's keynote on the new phones / new operational systems (Sequoia included, whose API improvements may benefit the Mac port of the game...).

[rustic salmon]

lmao I like how in the Autophage quest you go back to where you insert artemis's soul

[icy reef]

"Sorry, gonna need this back"

[glass flare]

It seems like they've stopped doing patches for Part 1 (even though there's still bugs 😢 ) , so those devs must be back on Part 2 fulltime, and maybe they're already in QA testing internally

iPhone keynote is Sept 9th, probably the new version of iOS will come out a week later or so

I kinda doubt they would be timing an iOS port to Part 2 though

[fervent fern]

Nothing strict I'd say (HG really doesn't do that usually lol -- the Mac update was just that, "hey, it's on Mac now")
But perhaps making it somewhat close to Apple's big moments would make sense.

Apple is focusing more on mobile gaming on these last chips (A17 Pro technically has RT capabilities... we can expect more from whatever is on iPhone 16).
If HG has the same aim -- going mobile with NMS --, Apple may help in some way... publicity-wise at least.

Wild speculation though. I myself don't quite believe there will be such association. It just "makes sense" to me. 😅
Making sense doesn't mean much.

[glass flare]

well, the Mac port was a separate "update", if you can call it that

[fervent fern]

It was literally just a port if I remember correctly, no?
Although there was a trailer and all...

Going mobile would be big for NMS anyway.
We would see another trailer...

[glass flare]

yeah just the port and maybe some bug fixes, I don't think it had new features. the Xbox port back in the day I think did have other features. don't remember the Switch one

[fervent fern]

Completely forgot about how Switch went. I think the Xbox one was tied to a bigger update, but I wasn't there to see lol.

[glass flare]

I agree that iOS is definitely high on the list, especially because there was some iPhone configs in Part 1 files

[fervent fern]

Would say something about the chips powering phones too.
If the Switch port is already a remarkable feat...

Then again -- the M4 powering the new iPads is quite powerful...

[glass flare]

yeah the iPhone 15's already leave the Switch in the dust on processing power, I think they're more in the PS4 range, maybe a bit better

though I wouldn't really want to play NMS on a phone

[fervent fern]

Yep, not for me too.
Hot phone, high battery drain... 😅
Awful controls.

[glass flare]

i've played NMS using PS remote play on my phone once, the touch controls weren't too terrible. but I just don't want to stare at the small screen that long. I'm sure it'd be cool on an iPad though

[ebon spoke]

didn't they announce an Ipad version at the same time as the Mac version?

[sour fossil]

Not really

[grizzled apex]

I remember reading about that somewhere after WWDC 2022, but can't find a solid source.

Did this ever happen btw? Or is the Mac Version still only on steam?

[ebon spoke]

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/06/macos-ventura-brings-powerful-productivity-tools-new-continuity-features-to-mac/

Looks like the original announcement from 2022 of an Ipad version may have been a mistake on apple's part

since it seems that none of the official No Man's Sky/Hello Games sources mentioned an ipad version

[valid barn]

how would you play it without buttons?

[analog breach]

Probably with on screen controls

[icy citrus]

Controllers these days can sync to anything also

[pliant aurora]

I do think we will still get it in September just from following the epedition to update release pattern..
I could be wrong though but we'll see.

[glass flare]

Their patch cadence seemed pretty short this time, so I think they are definitely trying to prioritize getting Part 2 out sooner than later, but who knows what the actual date is. They may have a month's worth of work left on it

[valid barn]

can someone please translate this for me?

it really kills my interest in the lore when its just gibberish

[glass flare]

What about it is gibberish? It shows the Sentinels committing genocide against a former species, under the belief that they are following Creator (people who made Atlas) protocols. Of course if one of Atlas's goals was to model conflict scenarios, then wiping out a species that participated in a conflict would seem to go against that goal.

The Sentinels in this report also seem concerned at the data loss they're encountering, and worry that it may cause a lack of self-awareness of either themselves or possibly Atlas.

[valid barn]

how do you get that from what's there?

"lifeform designates" isn't even proper english

is that 148 sentinals don't return? if so why is it in brackets?

[glass flare]

Yeah I assume so. In brackets just for flavor

[valid barn]

ugh

[lyric hatch]

It could mean the war of the designated lifeforms or the war that was designated [----] war by the lifeforms. Honestly, being up for interpretation is a vital and mostly benefitial part of any type of art

[vagrant thunder]

I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be “lifeform designates (blank)”

The sentence isn’t complete

[ebon glade]

I will concede, the method that No Man's Sky uses to tell its story isn't .. ideal.
I found myself rolling my eyes at most of the narration, and the inner-thought monologues.

Argueably, the only part of the story that I was really invested in, was what to do with Artemis, and Null's story. Null's story was pretty ait.

Most of the rest was kinda so-so, at least in the delivery.

Wonder if there'll be more and more travellers that we can find out in the world.
Maybe as the simulation continues to degrade, and the walls between them break down - we'll unknowingly run into travellers; likely travellers that don't know they're in the sim, or immersed themselves so thoroughly into it, they don't care.

It's always someone of significance. A major pirate lord that's been terrorizing a station, or a local hero capable of protecting a settlement from mega-worms, biological horrors, or something else.
You can tell there's something different about them.

[opal mulch]

it is. all of the logs are clearly written in the style of reports compiled in shorthand, with identifier tags that a machine would use inserted when it refers to certain entities and other references removed when the narrator (who is actually revealed later in these logs) can't access them

it's not exactly ideal, or even necessarily good, but definitely not incomprehensible gibberish

[barren garden]

Yeah. If you keep finding and looking at Boundary Failure terminals, eventually the writing style of the logs will change, and stay that way until the last entry in the series

[sand scarab]

So... I'm at the point where the Atlas requires me to choose between Resetting the Simulation and Refusing the Atlas. What does each choice do?

[sour fossil]

Resetting simulation will let you choose one of 4 galaxy types to be transported to

Those types are presented by 4 holograms: cyan (normal), empty (blue), harsh (red) and lush (green)

After the restart, you will wake up in the new galaxy just like you did at the start of the game, with all current technology modules across exosuit, ship and MT broken

Refusing the Atlas means just going back to the galaxy you're in now and continuing like nothing happened

[sand scarab]

I assume I will be able to simply choose later to go to the Galactic Core and move to the next Galaxy if I choose to reject the atlas now?

Because I was at the point where each jump gave me a Glyph and then I went to a portal after getting all 16, and then it warped me, and then gave the countdown, and then warped me to talk to the Atlas.

If I choose to transport to another Galaxy, does the normal teleporter network allow me to warp back to my base still?

[barren garden]

Yes and yes

The end of The Purge basically transports you to the Core for a one-off "freebie" Galaxy hop

[sand scarab]

Cool, I took the hop and went to Eissentam

Good lord it's gonna be a pain to get all the resources to get my stuff back online lol!

[icy citrus]

Make sure to drop a base computer in that galaxy for easy return (if you go back to Euclid)

[gloomy isle]

Super interested in next week and if part 2 really has been delayed

Since we don't 100% know what the situation with the update is

[urban oak]

Would be kinda funny if the whole pushed back release is nothing more than a joke and they release it on time.

[sand scarab]

Yeah, I definitely need to do that!

It would be my second base on that save. And would likely just be a way to get back to Eissentam

[icy reef]

what does birthing a new star in the end of the Atlas quest do?

just flavor text?

[sour fossil]

Yup

No actual star is being created

[fervent fern]

October is my safe bet at this moment, but early-to-mid september is where my heart is. 😆

It's the first update divided in two parts... wouldn't surprise me if the second one was in an advanced state.

[pliant aurora]

I saw someone say Steam is starting a Space Exploration event on Sep 2nd too

[valid barn]

yes

[icy reef]

ty

[icy reef]

ty

[rare imp]

I really sincerely hope if there are terrain improvements for part two, it is not limited to the data mined purple star systems. Visual consistency has been an on going issue with this game as it slowly adopts a more modernized approach from its initial heavily stylized concept. If they implement radically evolved terrain generation and only limit it to a singular star type, the visual consistency will degrade even further.

[valid barn]

give me a Genesis torpedo!

[glass flare]

There would be no way to do universe-wide terrain regeneration without messing up everyone's bases. Sean has said point blank they won't do that again, hence why they're using new systems for this

[valid barn]

there's still a lot of ungenerated planets to impliment the new features on

any undiscovered system would be applicable

so... if Atlas and the Anomaly were not part of the game originally, what was the story objective?

[glass flare]

That's not how their system works. While theoretically they could look at whether the Discovery Services has registered activity in a system, there would be a terrain mismatch if someone goes offline or the Services goes offline (which happens far too often). It's just not reliable enough for that purpose

[valid barn]

how does a system get selected for a new itteration?

is it the number?

[glass flare]

There's a unique "seed" number for the entire universe which gets fed through all of the procedural systems. The terrain algorithms use that number too. But the terrain algorithms are in the game code and defines how the terrain generates based on that seed number. So when there has been a terrain reset, it's the algorithms that have changed, not the seed number

[valid barn]

is that also why the planet has an invariable topography?

(unless paradise)

[native carbon]

ngl i feel like we are gettin somethin next week

We got worlds part 1 when adrift ended

And liquidators ends in like 5 days

[glass flare]

Mm not sure what you mean exactly, but the terrain is consistent because the seed number is consistent, all the planets are based on that consistent seed number

[valid barn]

I mean that for too many planets, it's all of a uniform type of terrain.

if you've seen one hill you've seen them all

[gloomy isle]

I really hope so. My bet is either next week or early October

[native carbon]

Next week or mid september trust

[rare imp]

When have they stated they will not regen terrain again, if it’s for the games benefit ultimately I would encourage them to

It’s really just a matter of justifying doing so

[native carbon]

The only way i could see them like adding waterfalls and other terrain stuff is to just to add new planets

[rare imp]

But that does not negate the inconsistency issue

[native carbon]

Wdym

Also aint no way we are gettin another terrain reset like the ammount of hate, nah just not

[rare imp]

I don’t believe the backlash will be that severe, if bases are archived, able to be placed anywhere to the players liking, it might be a bit of an annoyance at first but I think most will come to accept it

[native carbon]

There was allready a massive wave of hate from worlds part 1 biome refresh thinny

[rare imp]

I wouldn’t say it was a hateful response, and clearly that was just simply a bug and if they had the ability to relocate at least there’s a work around

[glass flare]

Sorry I can't find it, it was an interview a few years ago. He basically said that they would never do a universe reset again because the community has invested too much time into their bases.

Which is why they added those new planets in Origins with different terrain algorithms, instead of doing a reset for everything

[gloomy isle]

I feel like purple systems would be a great solution to this

On paper, you could make bigger changes to them in future so long as it was made clear those would specifically change more down the line

[glass flare]

Yeah especially if the lore for those planets was like ... Void Mother is cooking...let her cook

if VM has reprogrammed those purple systems then yeah, don't depend on those systems staying the same, since Atlas has lost control of them

[fervent fern]

Only issue is we would spend 95% of our time on the juicier purple systems. 😆

...well, it may very well happen anyway...

[pliant aurora]

I cant remember was it found that the purple systems would be dissonant planets only?

[lofty fable]

very good point an i agree

[grizzled apex]

Currently yes, it's a manual override HG hardcoded in the exe. Pretty interesting, since it means that not only do purple systems replace phantom ones, but that they have different generation rules to normal ones w/o a change of seed, something HG could do more with than just force dissonance potentially

[lofty fable]

what are phantom systems?

[pliant aurora]

@lofty fable
https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Phantom_star

[valid barn]

how much tritium does it take to pulse a lightyear?

[fervent fern]

I don't think you can count lightyears while pulsing (it's a measurement for the galaxy map)
Still, you will have better luck asking in #nms-questions

[dire drum]

A metric shit ton

But it’s not possible to use the pulse drive for interstellar travel, at least, it would be very impractical if it could.

[warm tapir]

Didn’t someone pulse for several hours and end up in a different system?

[dire drum]

No

[glass flare]

It's not possible. Each star system is a separate object, from a game code standpoint you can't travel via pulse drive from one to another. When you warp to another system, it unloads the existing system and loads in the new one while the warp animation is playing.

And if that wasn't the case, it also wouldn't work because space travel coordinates are 32-bit... even flying an hour in a system will result in the game glitching out because the coordinate values start overflowing the 32-bit maximum.

[elder marlin]

Yea. Not even sure if pulse driving to a star will put you on that star. Just does not seem possible to me. One thing I do tho is pulse towards the system's sun to eventually turn around to scan the planets.

[warm tapir]

Yeah it was something like that, idk there’s a video on youtube on someone doing it

I don’t think it even put the player into an adjacent system

Look it up

[shut sparrow]

Is it technically cannibalism if an Autophage is killing other Autophages to use to upgrade their own body?

Like more advanced optical shit. Or better armor made outta a korvax' torso-

[valid barn]

are they alive?

[shut sparrow]

Let's saaaaay. The Autophage shoots a korvax and kills them. Then the Autophage uses the korvax's body parts to upgrade their OWN body or shell thing

[valid barn]

I don't have an issue with that

[shut sparrow]

OR WAIT. I got a better example. I went into a Derelict freighter and learned that the CREW forced a Korvax to become the literal ship. It ain't cannibalism. But it definitely feels inhumane in a way

[valid barn]

ok that just sounds like a ripoff of the Milenium Falcon gettings its computer restored by that one droid

[shut sparrow]

Bro I swear it was actually what happened there. Freaky shit too lol

[spice sky]

Soooo, i have been playing nms for some time, but only recently did I even begin to find stuff about Project WT, ARG, Emily and Loop16, its so fing BIIIG

[zealous cedar]

what are those?

[icy citrus]

https://wiki.gamedetectives.net/index.php?title=Waking_Titan

[glass flare]

Seeing a link with that image, my lizard brain immediately thought "Waking Titan is back??"

[compact coyote]

Same

Waking titan was awesome

For those who don’t know, read the wiki

So awesome

[thin pawn]

thats the real deep lore

[pliant aurora]

new emoji tweet from sean

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1f604f8/new_tweet_from_sean/#lightbox

update def not delayed then

its a pot

[fervent fern]

LET'S GOOOOO! Update in september! 🎉

[void reef]

What are all the leaks for worlds part 2?

[lofty fable]

there's ruins

there's the new purple system

[dreamy quartz]

some water stuff too; like new ocean biomes

[lofty fable]

the pot could easily have something to do with ruins, the new system and lore

[lofty fable]

yes

[void reef]

Anything else?

[lofty fable]

an archeology update seems just unlikely to me

nobody has ever asked for that and nobody really does archeology outside of expeditions

[dreamy quartz]

the tweet is an emote of an ancient greek vase

it's probably referring to that ruins biome that was datamined

[lofty fable]

yes

probably referring to the lore shit as well

[dreamy quartz]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphora

[void reef]

Any idea if there’s anything else coming with the update?

[lofty fable]

just gotta wait and see whats included

[gloomy isle]

Sean emoji 🎉🎉🎉

The urn wasn't an expected emoji

Looking like we'll see the ruins biomes ig

[glass flare]

uh haha you would be surprised, some people have definitely asked for that

[analog breach]

Maybe actual archeology where u dig up stuff that ends as your base parts decor. Skeletons, vases, sculptures etc. etc.

[glass flare]

Digging up dungeon entrances pls 🙏

[thin pawn]

derelict freighters but planet dungeons pls sean

[pliant aurora]

planet dungeons would be great

[rare imp]

Goodness, dungeons were first brought up out of pure speculation during waking titan and now I feel like that’s all anyone ever talks about, I don’t see the appeal other than it being a cool buzzword

No further elaboration, just hey I thought of this novel idea… “dungeons”

[valid barn]

get NMS to play DOOM

[rare imp]

Exactly, no man’s sky is a chill exploration game, it can be its own thing, there’s plenty of other games with dungeons that do that really well. Why does nms have to accommodate or cater to every established trend in the industry?

[dreamy quartz]

after grinding a bunch of derelict freighters, I really want this. Something very similar to derelict freighters with the procedural layouts but on planets and maybe more spatious so you can use your jetpack and stuff

[valid barn]

I mean you have what... 256 galaxies that are all the same. why?

[glass flare]

There's been plenty of elaboration on it in the past. It would be a source for end-game exploration, loot, and combat challenges. If you're not interested that's cool but plenty of people are, especially after derelicts were so well received

[rare imp]

Well, isn’t essentially every update quote on quote “well received” that doesn’t say much as to whether not it was needed to begin with. It was a cool halloween themed update that paid some homage to the alien franchise but I don’t think it was intended to be some foray into dungeon crawling

[fervent fern]

If this update brings the "atlantid" systems... I hope they go hard on the crystal aesthetic.
So much time hearing about a world of glass... I actually want to see one. 😆
It's a stretch, but who knows?

[ebon spoke]

Planetary dungeons would be a far better feature than the derelict freighters are. The freighters are cool, and have good gameplay but they are completely 'segmented' off from the other features of the game. You don't ever see a derelict unless you are specifically looking for one which I think is pretty poor design. Planetary dungeons would ideally be visible from far away as some sort of large structure, and would invite the player to come explore if they spotted one naturally

[rare imp]

Every darn key art they release has some crystals in it, and I just want more damn crystals!

[fervent fern]

It would be nice, as it would make dissonant planets on "normal" systems some kind of sign

The potential to add things to late-game, post The Purge...

Anyway, I'm dreaming at this point lol.

[rare imp]

Then please make a case of what that might entail, because I feel like people use the word dungeon, but only have some vague understanding of how that might function

If someone could make a convincing enough pitch, then I want to hear it!

[tawdry quarry]

Ruins biome which is more likely or maybe treasure hunting revamp

[rare imp]

Idk I had this one idea for anomalous worlds to make them more interesting and surreal

Hallucinations while exploring anomalous worlds: Once a player has overstayed their welcome they will begin to hallucinate, due to the surreal conditions of the planet. Hallucinations may include, seeing dark, shadow like variants of sentinel, signs of "man made" structures, resources that disappear upon interaction. Domesticated forms of fauna/mounts found near buildings. A more polished, more condensed form of creature riding that only allow players to mount fauna that can be ridden in a more natural, up-right position, to avoid clipping models, and off-set player animations.

The second half of that is another idea entirely

[thin pawn]

I just want more things to explore, lore and enemies

[pliant aurora]

Sounds good

[ebon spoke]

Something similar to the freighter dungeons, with a large procedural generated interior that has an unpredictable, mazelike layout. There would be some form of combat on the inside, presumably with bespoke enemy variations (like the derelicts have) different dungeons would have different types. There could also be additional hazards inside such as extreme radiation or toxicity. The end goal would be some sort of valuable or desirable reward, maybe multitool staff parts, maybe some new type of valuable upgrades, maybe new starship parts, could just be some really valuable trading items. The aesthetic design could either be based on the ancient ruins or they could go with a sci fi facility type style, like what Starfield and Star Citizen have for their dungeons.

[gloomy isle]

If we do get spelunking I hope it's more environmental based than the derelicts. I don't mind how they work but it would be cool for them to have a different focus imo

More India Jones than dead space ig

[ebon spoke]

Personally I'd prefer ruin based style too, more different from the freighters

[gloomy isle]

It would make sense for part 2 to be ruins and POI stuff too.

Environments - > POIs - > Purple systems is a good order I think

[rare imp]

Idk if the hello games has any plans to that effect, if a feature like that excites them and they think it’s ultimately best for the game then I trust their judgement. They implemented ship building in a way that didn’t alienate that side of the player base, ships found being authentic vs ships built being fabricated was a great solution in continuing to incentivize ship hunting whilst also allowing for more personalization.

[lofty fable]

true

i still hope that visual improvements are prioritized above all else

[fluid valley]

I hope a ground texture generation Overhaul and a generation fix when you go inside the planet (fix the thing you see everything pop around you)

[sour fossil]

https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/1830017915493441568

Sean Murray (@NoMansSky) on X

Twitter · Aug 31, 2024, 11:00 PM

Aparently there's something embeded in this picture

Zoomed in a bit

[fluid valley]

Hmmmmm

I dont understand

[analog breach]

It does not look like nms alphabet

Hard to make anything out of it.

[grizzled apex]

Isn't that just artefacting?

[glad kernel]

😲

[sour fossil]

Seems a bit more deliberate lol

[fluid valley]

This is also on the original post of this photo, so nothing here

[analog breach]

Maybe we need to wait for next piece of the puzzle

[fluid valley]

Just twitter compression or photo mod artifact

The original post have it too

[analog breach]

Maybe its a sound?

[grizzled apex]

I remember someone mentioning it's a community member's screenshot. Doubt they'd hide a message there

[fluid valley]

https://x.com/olssam62off/status/1829422921044926556?t=J6GnwOK2wB24bV7evd394w&s=19

olssam62NMS (@olssam62off) on X

Hello #NoMansSky @hellogames @NoMansSky

Twitter · Aug 30, 2024, 7:36 AM

Yep, community screenshoot

[grizzled apex]

The artefacting's present here too.

[fluid valley]

Yep

I do the stenography on the community photo, not sean one, same thing

[ashen geode]

100% this is artefacts

[sour fossil]

blanked out the "noisy pixels"

yes I have noting better to do lol

[ashen geode]

Had my GPU produce similar issues on screenshots or recordings long ago

Also the latest NMS updates introduced some visual bugs so could be that too

What we should really focus on is that new Sean emoji... 🏺

That thing can hold water, and if we take into account the recent datamining with new biomes tags for deep oceans etc, could be that

[analog breach]

Sean teasing update name : artefact

[ashen geode]

That would work... and would be genius

[analog breach]

Yeah. It fits with the 🏺

[ashen geode]

🏺🏺🏺

Whatever that is, I'm in!

Wonder if it will be next Wednesday or the week after

[analog breach]

I bet on 4.09

[ashen geode]

Me too, finger crossed!

If this is indeed Worlds part 2, I hope they introduce those purple systems datamined, I wonder how they will behave generation wise

[analog breach]

U heard it here first pepole. NMS Artefact

[ashen geode]

I wonder what it could add with such a name, if it'd be to be true: more random items in the wild? New ruin biome?

Overhall of the planetary bases of NPCs?

[analog breach]

New mt type?,

[ashen geode]

People thought it could be Light No Fire related, but honestly if that would happen I see the Light No Fire posting it instead to make it clear

[ashen geode]

So hyped about the game but let's be realistic ^^"

[analog breach]

I dont think its binary or morse. Or distorted qr code. IF it is anything.

[next lagoon]

"The pot in Indian literature is referred to as a receptacle that holds life, spirits, and the dead; water, soma and amrita."

[icy citrus]

Nice one

[ashen geode]

This is the Atlas's GPU giving up 😔

[analog breach]

He cant give up. I belive in my boi atlas

[ashen geode]

Atlas! Hold in there..

What if it just means... Worlds pot (part) 2?

Definitely something the man could do lol

[analog breach]

Maybe. But then they would not change the change update info to "later..."

[native carbon]

For me summer is over

[analog breach]

Maybe try to change point of view..like with words made from long lines.

Or duplicate pic and stack them on top of eachother

Idk..Im trying to think outside the box.

[solar cairn]

Love to see this chat light up

Anyway, it doesn't seem like it's forming sentences imo if so, what the hell is that structure?

[gloomy isle]

Just realised how big this year has been for the game. The biggest in a while I think

[analog breach]

For me, no. But its quite decent.

[quasi oyster]

A friend of mine reminded me that the recent data mining found “ruin” planets where they were covered with ancient stone ruins. So I’m now leaning toward that

[gloomy isle]

I'm personally thinking it's worlds part 2. Its announcement is exactly following how the first part was announced

Emoji late night on a weekend, before the expedition ends the following Tuesday

Emoji on a weekend before the exp is even over basically never happens, too

[analog breach]

Hg lately is out of their usual update pattern.

[ashen geode]

Yup, I honestly think we'll get this. Would be weird to release a part 1, then another update and finally part 2

Gunter approves peeps

[ashen geode]

Honestly this is just a visual bug, I don't think there's anything hidden, it's visible on the original community post so Hello Games didn't add it

[native carbon]

NMS: the POT update
added so you can put items inside the pot

[gloomy isle]

Yeah the visual artifact was in the original screenshot before it got reposted

Apparently

[gloomy isle]

Nah geknip overhaul

[native carbon]

9/10 update (cuz no deep oceans)

[gloomy isle]

I'm wondering if part 2 might be POI focused

[solar cairn]

Hope so

Beautiful planets, now we need some more reasons to explore them

[gloomy isle]

Yeah

Then purple systems would make a lot of sense as a part 3

Or something else entirely ig

[solar cairn]

Purple systems?

[gloomy isle]

Yeah purple stars got datamined

They seem to have their own biomes and fauna

[analog breach]

Maybe autophages will get their own systems

[gloomy isle]

That would be cool

Hopefully they do tie it into the story

[analog breach]

Yeah. Im hungry for more story and lore.

Where arg part 4

What about leto? Did sean really droped mother of artemis and apollo name just like that?

I dont need sleep i need answears

[solar cairn]

We need more lore on Void Mother and the world beyond glass

[analog breach]

Yessss

Mor mor mor

I want to see void dragons and glass angels

[gloomy isle]

I really hope this one really does overhaul ruins and stuff

Imagine if ruins used the same proc gen tech as settlements

Maybe even have a few types, too

[zenith perch]

This isn't anything and I don't know why people think it is

This is the nms community doing the grasping at straws thing again

[zenith perch]

"What are settlements" - hello games

[peak shadow]

I bet primitives civilizations on planets

[compact coyote]

What’s happening with that Sean pic

Anything?

Honestly those “pixels” look too organized to be random

[runic mesa]

Let us revive Artemis properly, plz

[rustic haven]

Disagree

[rustic haven]

It appears to just be a graphical glitch

As far as I have gathered

[solar cairn]

Digital artefact

[compact coyote]

I really wanted this to be something lol

[quasi oyster]

Nah, I’m all in on wanting Artemis to be a Lore Easter Egg involved in LNF. 😛

[dreamy quartz]

What if the planet from LNF is the simulated world in the anomaly that nada and polo had you set up and experiment with in the main quest?

[quasi oyster]

That’s the theory I’m running with in my head-cannon. Would be nifty if we had a secret quest line to learn of Artemis’ fate on that world. If I was to join it with @runic mesa ‘s request, have the quest line go over a number of updates - ultimately learning that Artemis maybe escapes that world/simulation at some point!

[pliant aurora]

He posted three of them now now
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1f6ifsr/updates/#lightbox

[quasi oyster]

Probably means Tuesday release then. ((Assuming # of days starting today. Otherwise meaning Wednesday))

[glass flare]

I think Part 1 released on Tuesday as well? so that's my guess

but it might be smarter for hype reasons to release while the U.S. is on Labor Day holiday tomorrow

[tawdry quarry]

idk i think Labor day would be a not great choice, people are hanging with family and stuff

[unique otter]

with the emoji as a vase, it seems likely that the ruins biome that was datamined might appear in this update?

[runic mesa]

HG is based in the UK. We might be on holiday, but they're not.

[tawdry quarry]

fair but unless Seans sent 2 or 3 emojis i dont think it happens tommorow

probably when Exped ends

[pliant aurora]

That and the water biomes

[glass flare]

for all we know they might make Part 3 the water stuff

[grizzled apex]

https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=zvdnvggt
Just found out there's an apple event for the 9th of September. Wonder if we'll get the potential Ipad / Iphone ports announced there?

[sour fossil]

Who knows

There seems to be more stuff indicating NMS coming to iOS in the files

Like the Platform Exclusion property

[grizzled apex]

Yep, that's why it caught my eye this time

[glass flare]

it would make sense from a marketing POV, but ports generally get their own update and I doubt they'd shove the iOS release into Part 2

[grizzled apex]

Also the fact that a lot of the shaders have IOS and Switch only calls seperate from other platforms (including seperate from MacOS)

[glass flare]

possible Apple could show it and say something like "coming later this year to iPad and iPhones"

[grizzled apex]

Yea I doubt this is Part 2 honestly. Switch and Next did drop with major updates, but I think this might be a smaller QOL update with the Cross Saves coming in a bit after whatever the Amphora is, likely an expedition

[sour fossil]

Cant say about shaders since no experience with that

Yeah Archeology exped could be possible

While HG is cooking up WP2

[gloomy isle]

I honestly doubt it's just an expedition

It would be weird to make one in a couple of weeks because of a delay

Where they could just focus on part 2

[glass flare]

the cadence is generally Update, Expedition, Update so having two back to back updates is abnormal. but OTOH they don't usually pre-announce a future update and call it Part 2 of the first one. so we're in uncharted waters

[gloomy isle]

It's also worth noting that this is following the exact release cadence of part 1

To the hour basically, so far

[analog breach]

Imo It is something like " get set, get ready , steady , go" . 3 emotes suggest the update will be very soon. 4.09 is my bet. Updates are released usualy on wednesdays

[glass flare]

true, good point

[analog breach]

Its worth noting allright. it will help predict this new release pattern in the future.

[native carbon]

what if it will release tomorrow

[analog breach]

Expedition runs untill 2.09. Update never droped before expedition end. Partialy bc leting as much pepole to finish it before update drop.

[halcyon pebble]

I mean I most likely the update drops when the expedition ends

we did get the V A S E tho which im guessing is a hint at the ruins

[native carbon]

ah, so wednesday 100%

[analog breach]

My bet is still 4.09. It would be nice tho if update drops right arfter expedition end.

[analog breach]

99.5% we cant be sure what sean has in mind. Earlier we waited solid like a week or 2 before update drop

[halcyon pebble]

I mean has Sean ever done a emoji for a patch tho?

[analog breach]

No

[glass flare]

we're on 5.0 now... do you mean 5.10? 5.09 would just be a patch release

[analog breach]

Small patches dont have emojis

[halcyon pebble]

I think most likely its a hint for a update probably in the next coming week we will maybe get a patch before releases

[halcyon pebble]

thats what I thought