nms-spoilers

[icy citrus]

Great question

[glass flare]

well, the "universe" is a simulation that Atlas controls, but it probably doesn't control the lower-level system operations that actually keep that code running. I suspect that Void Mother has found a way to manipulate things at a lower level, like a malware exploit that can cause a buffer overflow and enable the malware to run arbitrary code

Void Mother... VM ... Virtual Memory. "don't drink the water" the water is the exploit. it is allowing Mama to gain control of aspects of the simulation by injecting code changes into the running simulation code in memory

[neon ibex]

Ah, makes sense.
Also Atlantid / Atlantis connection now i think about it, hm

What about glass?

[zenith perch]

Hg are a uk company

Summer ends around 21/9

[unborn bough]

@uncut harness continuing the issue of Korvax are evil or not it is proven in the Starbirth quest…
First and foremost you should know that the game hints at certain clues that the void egg is a spawn of the void mother (aka Korvax Prime). The first gen Gek literally killed Korvax Prime, a supposedly sentient, living planet, by mining it for resources. Imagine the level of brutality in that. Someone comes to your country, kills everybody and turns the country in shambles just because your country has resources they want? The Gek weren’t simply “bad”, they were pure evil ruled and governed by their never ending desire for conquest. They sacrificed millions of Korvax, a very calm and peace loving, sentient, highly intelligent, scientific people just for the fun of it. They even killed their sentient, living planet. This triggered a HUGE repercussion and set off a chain of events that permeated into different universes, where one entire UNIVERSE was annihilated on a mere 54 seconds.

So what if the Korvax had tried to do some experiments on an egg that was supposedly an offspring of their own mother? So what if they tried to lure the souls of some dead travelers into a soul chamber? The price they have paid to achieve freedom from the tyranny of the first gek is way too much. Sacrificing their bodies, souls, consciousness to save their brethren. Come on, cut them some slack.
Yeah, today’s Gek are docile traders who should not be punished for what their ancestors did, and they also speak these words saying how hurtful it is that everybody treats them like shit for something they truly never had any part in. They are an innocent species trapped in a hateful, disrespectful, racist community which is completely against them and they’re trying their best to overcome this situation, to clear their name. It does not mean the Korvax should be labled as “evil”. None of the preseno races are evil, everything they do when we interact with them can simply be described as “scrapping by”. All three, heck all four of them just want to live a life without a fight. In their own way, without their knowledge they simply want to defy the crimson liar.

[uncut harness]

I see that makes more sense

I still like the gek tho they pretty cute lol

[unborn bough]

Gek are cute

[glass flare]

well the Overseer Gek is pretty sus

[unborn bough]

It does nothing but judges us.

Rhymes. :3

[neon ibex]

Alright so apparently the breaking down of iteration boundaries due to Atlas's death is the lore explanation for the multiplayer update in Atlas Rises, that's why Travellers can see each other and interact with each other instead of as holograms
If that's so, how come we have yet to meet with Apollo?

I wanna see my buddy

he should at least have a place in the Space Anomaly

[uncut harness]

Maybe he likes solitude? jk idk

[neon ibex]

Also what's stopping us from hanging out with Artemis?
We have the technology to move minds and souls between different devices, and we have the technology to create robot bodies, and Travellers can choose what their bodies look like anyway
Why not just pull Artemis out of Nada's computer and put her in an Autophage body?

[uncut harness]

To be fair, the Autophage are kind of a new thing in the universe.

[neon ibex]

Sure, but even before, the idea of robot bodies isn't new

put her in an exomech lol

Actually, how does that body customization thing work? Interactions like that one with Apollo imply that changing your body to such an extent isn't as easy as going to a terminal (nor is going back to before a change), but we can just fine

[glass flare]

tbf I think that Apollo dialogue was written before avatar customizations existed (or 3rd person view for that matter)

[neon ibex]

ah

well thats a second bit of good news for our good friend then lol

Apollo can simply hop into a space station, change his look to how he'd like, and then hop into a teleporter to see us 👍

Hellogames make it happen

Reading up on the rogue data-- so the Anomalies are corrupted simulations of its creator?? That's very interesting

and if im reading right, the atlas won't die.. at least not completely?

Who might that figure that touches it in its final minute be?

[uncut harness]

I think this is one of those things that's meant to stay a mystery or just be something to ponder?

Kind of open-ended?

Maybe it's meant to be sort of a hope spot that someone will come along to help repair it or be there in its final moments?

[unborn bough]

Have you completed the Artemis Path?

[neon ibex]

LNF must be what happens after Atlas's death-- in the cover for NMS, the red orb that is Atlas is trapped inside that black glass octahedron, which must represent its current situation, it's stuck, alone, simulating the same universe over and over. In LNF, that octahedron is opened, that crimson orb now free, facing the outside world, and I'll betcha that hand reaching toward it has something to do with the figure that touched, and freed, the Atlas in its final moments before being consumed by the black hole

[neon ibex]

Yeah

[unborn bough]

So you know they’re all dead, right?

[icy citrus]

Or that's before the orb was imprisoned

😛

[unborn bough]

Artemis, Apollo, -null- are already dead when we interact with them. You know that, right? RIGHT?

[uncut harness]

Shhhhh they're still alive in our hearts

[unborn bough]

Artemis is still alive in that machine. :3

[neon ibex]

If I'm not mistaken, Atlas before Atlas was just a human in a world like ours, if Waking Titan is anything to go off of

[neon ibex]

I mean, maybe? How does that work though? Death hardly seems final for travellers like ourselves

They're "dead" but can continue to chat with us and witness the changes we're making in this world, and sort of "exist" as a hologram

also we can die and just re-iterate so surely they can too

[glass flare]

I think it's probably the opposite, that LNF -- if it's actually set in the same fiction -- is a prequel, long ago time before NMS. In the lore there's talk about how in earlier runs of the simulation there used to be more than three races, and Atlas simulated all kinds of things

[neon ibex]

I think they're only 'dead' in our iteration

[icy citrus]

I think it's unrelated

100%

Little Easter eggs of some things at most

Not a sim, not the atlas

[neon ibex]

i sure hope not-- would be such a letdown to tease us with what is clearly the Atlas and just give zero relation
Im not saying i wand No Man's Sky 2: Return of No Man but I think it'd be neat to see it as a "sequel in the Atlas's eyes"

[uncut harness]

oh so like we're talking to a version that's alive in a different iteration?

[neon ibex]

whoever put apostrophe so close to enter should be tickled

[icy citrus]

I disagree with this being clearly the Atlas

[glass flare]

Well who knows. But I hope you're right, I'd rather it just be a pure fantasy and not BuT iTs a SiMuLAtiOn!

[neon ibex]

Sure why not, that's who we're talking to for each traveller in the story
actually IDK about null's situation

[icy citrus]

The atlas isn't some red orb in a jar

[gloomy isle]

Tbh it's missing the Atlas' defining shape

[neon ibex]

What did -null- even do?

[icy citrus]

It's a torch

Don't light that fire

[uncut harness]

-null- gave us a speech. a ominous speech.

[neon ibex]

I mean it doesn't need to keep the computer speak but "Our world is the dream of a dying god" is just fantasy language for "Our universe is a simulation"

[uncut harness]

and is possibly multiple travelers in a suit.

[neon ibex]

It's more symbolic

[neon ibex]

once again

[neon ibex]

It's very much the same shape, just evolved

[uncut harness]

at least i feel like I remember -null- saying something about being more than one soul of a traveler or something? Dang I need to go look it up again.

[icy citrus]

Lore does say atlas has simulated many universes, doesn't mention doing a single planet for the whole sim. Makes no sense from its own standpoint

It's trying to figure out how not to die, not what happens if some dragons are flying about

[gloomy isle]

It's entirely a different shape, one is 8 sided and the other has around 12 ish

[neon ibex]

I guess LNF could also be an earlier simulation of Atlas's, but I just personally dont like that idea lol

[uncut harness]

-null- lore according to the wiki

-null- was once a Traveller from another universe who defied the Atlas and lived for an eternity in order to discover and explore all the star systems and planets of their universe. In response, the Atlas showed them that they were still just one of many travellers in an infinite multiverse, what -null- interpreted as their actions being meaningless, causing much grief. After that meeting Atlas stopped speaking to -null-, but -null- having the new understanding and a knowledge of the walls between universes failing, decided to contact the player in order to find out what's wrong with the multiverse.

-null- perceives the player character as the chosen one by the Atlas. They are sorrowful because of the player, angry at the fact that the player was selected instead of them. They are bitter towards Atlas for it discarded -null- after they had accomplished a herculean task at a great personal cost, yet Atlas cut them off. They question why they are not enough for the Atlas.

[gloomy isle]

A square isn't an evolved triangle

[neon ibex]

It's a broken 8 sided shape

[icy citrus]

I still think it's unrelated, but if NMS has taught us anything, it's that Hg can be very unpredictable

[neon ibex]

like an eggshel broken into 2

[uncut harness]

I love how you guys are still debating the LNF NMS relations and I'm just over here spilling out -null- stuff

[gloomy isle]

I don't think it's possible to say it's broken into 2 without seeing the other half

As it stands, that's the shape it is

[neon ibex]

i see no reason not to make such an inference

if you see an eggshell on the ground outside, do you argue it cant have been an egg because you "don't see the other half"

[gloomy isle]

Well it doesn't look broken, it's got completely clean lines

[gloomy isle]

No because it's an egg

[neon ibex]

well yeah i think thats just stylistic it doesnt really mean anything

[gloomy isle]

We know an egg opens

[glass flare]

If Atlas has limited processing available, in an earlier time it (or its creators) may have focused on a smaller, more detailed world simulation rather than the relatively "wide but shallow" expanse of NMS worlds.

[neon ibex]

i think it's perfectly reasonable, and should be the default, to make an inference based on the empty space that what we have outlines

[glass flare]

but I don't really like LNF being connected to NMS so I will stick fingers in my ears

[neon ibex]

if you see half a circle, your brain should be able to "see" a circle

[gloomy isle]

It's definitely meant to evoke the same vibe but beyond that, it's a shape. I think you're maybe setting yourself up for disappointment here

[neon ibex]

if LNF comes out to be totally unrelated and hellogames just used a very Atlas-like symbol for no reason i will be gravely disappointed

[neon ibex]

it's far too similar of a symbol to not evoke the same meaning

[gloomy isle]

That wouldn't be hello games' fault tbh

[neon ibex]

it's the exact same aspects as Atlas, just given different form

[glass flare]

does it really matter, if the world lore of LNF is itself deep and interesting?

[gloomy isle]

^

[neon ibex]

eh, a little bit imo

[icy citrus]

Maybe they just like red circles

[unborn bough]

-null- was the first to reset the universe. It died physically at the reset but the soul remained, a figment on old memories, a fragment of the code that Atlas had generated in memories of his own creator, based on the photos it could take when humans abandoned Atlas to a cruel fate of a slow death.

[neon ibex]

inside black glass octahedrons

[gloomy isle]

Imo all the similar branding indicates is that it's a spiritual successor to NMS

[neon ibex]

if they're going to use such an incredibly Atlas-like symbol and make it bear no relation to Atlas, they should at least explain what the symbol in both games does represent

because it's very much the same symbology

like maybe it just means Hello Games or something

but personally, until proven otherwise, it's Atlas freed

[unborn bough]

They went through 300+ logo changes for LNF, just saying 🙂

[gloomy isle]

They're not the same symbols though. If we're talking synbology then specifics like the geometry are super important, and the geometry is different

[unborn bough]

There are some weird ones too.

[gloomy isle]

Also yeah, the other LNF logos look nothing like atlas

[neon ibex]

that only makes it more deliberate

[glass flare]

where'd you read that?

[unborn bough]

Saw the video.

[gloomy isle]

There's a lot on artstation iirc

[neon ibex]

it's the same symbol__ogy__
Different symbol-- the second is clearly an iteration upon the first

[gloomy isle]

Like how LNF is an iteration on what they did with NMS. That's all it's saying really

[neon ibex]

a symbol can undergo slight changes and carry the same meaning

[glass flare]

someone besides Beau Lamb? seems like he hasn't updated there in a long time

[neon ibex]

Sure, but that would only pass so long as that symbol was only associated with NMS as a whole game, and not a major character within

but that symbol isnt just NMS, that symbol is Atlas

https://80.lv/articles/over-300-unused-logo-designs-for-light-no-fire-unveiled/

[icy citrus]

See, they like red circles

Bunch that have no resemblance in any way to an atlas

[unborn bough]

Some logo designs form the video.

[glass flare]

i didn't know this article even existed

[neon ibex]

Look how many of these use smooth, black geometry, plus a complex red centerpoint

[icy citrus]

Like the giant hand with some fire

[gloomy isle]

I don't see how any of the earlier atlas like concepts are supposed to indicate it's broken

[neon ibex]

that's a lot of revisions involving the octahedron, or at least pyramid (an octahedron is two pyramids)

[neon ibex]

the earlier ones dont as much

[icy citrus]

I think if they wanted it to be "Atlas like" the artists would have been informed and not bothered with a lot of these

[neon ibex]

except these

[neon ibex]

an aside-- a lot of these give me strong Playdead vibes which really makes me wish they were still around more lol

[unborn bough]

There could be symbolic connection between the two games, a lot of philosophical connections too but out of my personal research where I’ve dissected the trailer a few hundred times, the biggest connection I could find is KnowledgeBro.

[neon ibex]

Some of these even have a little human inside the ball inside the now-separated octahedron-- just as Atlas is a human mind inside a computer inside a simulated prison?

[gloomy isle]

Imo it's just a spiritually similar logo since it's a spiritual successor. I do suspect that the games will be related, but I don't think it'll be an in depth part of the lore at all, just hints if anything

I very much doubt Atlas would ever be mentioned

[neon ibex]

that big titan thing? How's he a connection? I must have missed that

[gloomy isle]

If there is a connection I'm betting that it'll be along the same lines of how Portal and Half Life are revealed to share a universe

[glass flare]

mm Atlas is not a human mind though...it's an AI

[gloomy isle]

There's a connection but they still almost entirely stick to their own canon

[unborn bough]

Symbolism

[neon ibex]

Ahhhh

Good eye

[neon ibex]

look up Waking Titan

[unborn bough]

Gleam called that giant KnowledgeBro for a reason. Lol!

[icy citrus]

Lol

[neon ibex]

where it's heavily implied that Atlas is the result of a simulation of a human mind

[icy citrus]

We participated in WT

[gloomy isle]

Waking Titan's status in canon is very vague rn

[neon ibex]

ah

fair enough

[glass flare]

yeah I was pretty involved in WT lol

[icy citrus]

It isn't canon at all

[gloomy isle]

WT was great

[neon ibex]

wonder why they did it

[unborn bough]

Emily, Atlas, both of them are AI.

[icy citrus]

It was a fun game

[unborn bough]

Supercomputers

[neon ibex]

ah, so emily is separate?

[gloomy isle]

Yeah wasn't Emily entirely artificial

[unborn bough]

Mhm

[gloomy isle]

Or was she uploaded

[neon ibex]

hmm
wonder if we'll see emily pop up anyhow in NMS

Wonder if that's the figure that saves atlas?

[glass flare]

Sean considers it canon so I consider it canon, at least in a vague way as an origin story

[icy citrus]

But the only real tie is Telamon

[unborn bough]

Same

[unborn bough]

This.

[neon ibex]

I know very little about Telamon

[gloomy isle]

It's certainly something that's happened on some level in the NMS multiverse on some level of the simulation

[glass flare]

and Emily Mama

[icy citrus]

Lol

That would be epic

[gloomy isle]

Whether it's our Atlas's layer we don't really know

[unborn bough]

Although Telamon and Atlas are Greek mythological beings and architectural terms too.

[neon ibex]

I thought telamon was part of atlas?

[gloomy isle]

Atlantid too

[unborn bough]

Sub-routine created to help the Atlas with managing the Aerons.

[unborn bough]

Oui

[neon ibex]

Aerons being the sentinels right?

[unborn bough]

Yes

[neon ibex]

What's the deal with them anyway?

wait

ill ask the wiki first

[unborn bough]

We wrote the wiki lol

[gloomy isle]

An Atlantid being a sculpted atlas is such a cool connection ngl

[unborn bough]

Our members, i mean.

[neon ibex]

lol just wanted to limit redundancy-- figured youd rather me check there than ask the same questions again

[unborn bough]

Consult, nothing wrong in wiki info :3

[neon ibex]

that Atlantid is the void mother yes?

[unborn bough]

I don’t check wiki 😅

[unborn bough]

Nope.

[neon ibex]

oh?

[unborn bough]

We don’t have anything called “atlantid” in the game. We have atlantedium.

Void mommy is Korvax prime

And some say it is Emily.

[neon ibex]

hmm, interesting
what could make it emily, other than simplification?

[neon ibex]

There's a multi-tool class with that name

[unborn bough]

Player chosen

It’s wrong to say there isn’t atlantid in the game, actually. But it’s not as significant as atlantedium.

[glass flare]

just fan fiction wishes at the moment. an idea that Emily may have hid part of her code in the Atlas servers to survive, and eventually becoming part of current Atlas

[gloomy isle]

We do, the fragments of a new Atlantid

The mini Korvax Prime fragment space encounter, iirc

[unborn bough]

Oh I was confused lol! Emily is loop16 😅

[gloomy isle]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Fragment_of_a_New_Atlantid

[unborn bough]

Ah yes!

[neon ibex]

Ah, I could see that

[gloomy isle]

I think that must be the only mention though

[neon ibex]

...now who's loop16 lol? Where are they in the game

[unborn bough]

Yeah, probs.

[unborn bough]

ARG stuff

[neon ibex]

ah

[glass flare]

haha sorry, my brain was loopy16

[gloomy isle]

I think the best sort of connection would be to have both games inhabit different layers of the simulation

Like on totally different AI computers, and LNF has a more religious fantasy lens

[neon ibex]

hmm, yeah i suppose the symbol could represent atlas servers in general so that'd make sense

actually wait

the crimson specifically represents Atlas
If Emily is the VM, she'd have to be purple

these colors play a big role synbolically in the game

[gloomy isle]

I mean the altas is an imitation of the ai in the simulation above it

And so on

And there's probably simulations with several AIs in there too

[neon ibex]

The cries of the planet could only be heard by the sentinels, and upon it's destruction, Korvax Prime became the entity known within the lore as "The Abyss" or "The Void Mother".
This makes me think that the Sentinels are the reason the VM was saved?

Could nanite clusters be like, "physical" manifestations of the simulation's code itself?

they seem to make it very easy to rewrite reality and, being parts that make up the sentinels, which come from an Atlas subroutine, makes sense

[glass flare]

yeah I lean towards them being some form of data packet or memory pointer, which VM is using in the water to alter code

[neon ibex]

i wonder what they plan to do

what's the deal with glass?

[uncut harness]

I feel like glass is a term for something else? I can't help but feel like it's especially related to the Korvax?

[neon ibex]

Moreso the Sentinels from what I can see

but Korvax share a closer connection to sentinels/atlas than the other races anyhow

[uncut harness]

Someone posted this on Reddit asking about Glass as their take on it.

Glass is where old programs/data are stored when they're deleted from active Atlas memory. It's the archive, where things go when they "die." (It's why it's so closely associated with the Abyss, the Autophages, and certain factions of Sentinels.)

Glass as in "under glass" (or another metaphor is like being sealed in amber).

The "forgotten" things are slipping out of storage and seeping back into active memory. Hence all the "shards" erupting out the ground on some worlds and why iterations from the past are still able to interact with the active player.

[neon ibex]

Ah, interesting

[uncut harness]

The following is a massive massive spoiler that digs heavily into the lore and all the various Lore sources you can find in game. You've been warned.

The World of Glass is a place outside the simulations, it's the archive that the sentinels use to store data. It's how they plan to "save" everyone after the Atlas fails. It's a place of pure data so no place you could experience. It's called the World of Glass because a copy is like a reflection frozen in time.

Here is the critical thing to understand if you don't. In the real world if you move a file, say a piece of paper, to store it away, you're actually moving the same physical object from one place to another. On a computer however, that isn't how things work. When you "move" a file, nothing moves, it can't. What happens is the data is read and a copy is made in the new location, then the original is deleted.

The Aerons plan is to do what they we're designed to, scan everyone and "move" it into an archive. After all, if a computer crashes, if it loses power, whatever is active ceases to exist and is lost, but anything saved to a hard drive isn't. So when Atlas dies and the entire simulation crashes, the save files will last indefinitely. To the Sentinels (and the Korvax) data is data, a copy is as good as the original. They don't think in individuals. So to the Sentinels this solution saves everyone. However to us and everyone else in the simulation, it's very different, because we aren't saved, we as an individual would cease to exist, a copy of use is not us. We wouldn't be saved, this isn't a solution.

I kind of like this take on it being a place where the sentinels are trying to save everything.

I can't help but think a little bit about SOMA and how ||they made made a copy of themselves|| on a ARK to save themselves since they were going to die.

[neon ibex]

Makes me think heavily of Pantheon

[runic mesa]

New Atlantid is mentioned a few times in They Who Returned. I recently replayed it for the third title.

[native vortex]

me as r ball

meat ball

[karmic lodge]

Should I destroy it?

Woah

[paper meadow]

Who was the Gek leader at the time?

[dense quartz]

It's a shame how we only ever come across this once in the game. It looks so good!

[analog breach]

Uuuum we did?

It was part of past expedition

[icy citrus]

It's a space encounter

Just been unlucky to not have seen it more

[zenith perch]

Has anything else been datamined recently about worlds pt2

[analog breach]

Nothing we could be 100% sure it will come.

[hot gust]

"You are merciful. You interfere. You have both the potential for good and evil. Because of you, both live..."
[1] Accept
[2] Reject```What am I accepting/rejecting here?

[icy citrus]

The Atlas Path

It's a questline separate from the main story

[hot gust]

Hm... you mean the thing you further with each Atlas terminal?

[icy citrus]

Yeah

[hot gust]

... hm...

[icy citrus]

Or I assume so, unless that's not when you are at an Atlas station

[hot gust]

This is the second meeting with the ATLAS in the main storyline.

[icy citrus]

Yeah

Each time you visit in the chain, you can accept or reject the next step. If you have t met milestone requirements, next to Accept it would say: (Whatever milestone it needs) required

[icy citrus]

Then I'm lost tbh

I only remember it asking accept or reject during the atlas path itself

[hot gust]

Hm...

Watched a playthrough... choice doesn't matter.
Edit/Idle comment: Heh, I advanced the Atlas Path before it shot me out.

[pearl yarrow]

"Added the Unused UnderwaterCreepy, UnderwaterTowers and UnderwaterForest water biomes. Whilst model names suggest these biomes are meant to spawn in an Unused "DeepWater" region on planets, this is not possible to implement as such regions do not exist in the game's code at this point."

interesting interesting interestingggggg, found in the Worlds Part 1 - All Unused Features mod on Nexus

[icy citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345378190568587275/1269720888878825663/20240803173239_1.png?ex=66b3117a&is=66b1bffa&hm=ad41c6a10d57c0b9e6a6caa8304a9b198c94291f264de6542e05ed08a3ee8a5c&

A few images have been posted here and there with people viewing them

The hope is the new purple systems have the Water World biomes

[pearl yarrow]

the part that got me excited was DeepWater

oceans that arent' a pond? I'm in

[tawdry quarry]

if the devs have a parameter to control land and water levels i dont imagine it'd be a lot technically, but making varied assets for it would be the real task as well as making sure theres spots to land on for those without the water jet tech just in case

[drowsy dune]

I feel like they could just put the new water biomes in every planet cause very few people build underwater

[glass flare]

I don't think the terrain engine has any idea what "water" is per se. There is a global water level, and any open air underneath that level gets assigned as a water zone by the biome engine. With NEXT I think they tweaked the terrain algorithms and the water line to have bigger areas where water could exist, so they looked like oceans, but didn't do anything about the water depth.

The main issue I see with creating deep oceans is there is a set altitude height on a planet that the terrain engine has to work with (from the planet's indestructible core up to the edge of space), and the tallest mountains practically reach into space. I guess they could flip the tall mountain worlds they added, and instead generate deep valleys, with the above-water terrain being fairly flat. So I think these would have to be special water worlds, as they couldn't have deep oceans + mountains unless they increased the total atmospheric height of a planet as they did with LNF.

Which is totally possible I guess, they brought over a lot of LNF tech already.

[icy citrus]

I just assume they will be like the Prime planets Origin tossed out there. Their own set of parameters for heights

Purple have a higher chance at them - some systems with 5 or less planets gets them

[glass flare]

So the Origins planets have taller heights than pre-Origins planets? Are they also bigger in radius then?

[vocal prism]

Any new big leaks recently?

[icy citrus]

Not bigger to my knowledge, but they have a higher variance for peaks than others

If you find a planet and the mountains are pushing at the clouds, it's a prime

[glass flare]

right, it's easy to tell which are "prime" planets. I just misunderstood and thought you were saying they could accomodate both mountains and deep oceans on the same planet due to a larger height

[icy citrus]

No, sorry - just saying they have shown they can adjust that specifically to certain planets

[gloomy isle]

Since these unused biomes spawn in deepwater regions, I wonder if that means that ocean planets will have shallower areas with normal underwater stuff too

Also I've heard mention of oxygen draining the deeper you go

If so that would be awesome since it gives the nautilon some proper utility

[icy citrus]

If we do get crazy deep water worlds, I hope the lighting is done well

Don't want to see the surface trees from the bottom of the ocean floor

Daaaark

[gloomy isle]

Yeah definitely

Hopefully we get some really big sea creatures too

I feel like the shallow water kinda prevents that atm

I can imagine getting a genuine fear response from getting into the water and not seeing the bottom lol

[uncut harness]

Just black when you look down, maybe see something right before you can’t see nothing staring back at you

[glass flare]

yesss... I've been asking for that for a long time. deep water should be dark water

[brisk cove]

so ive been playin this game for years but never actually focused on the story. I recently got to when Apollo and I are in the "same location" but neither of us can see each other. is this a reference to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4wxydf/im_about_to_meet_another_player_seriously/

[pliant aurora]

Yes I've felt its been useless since it was released. Hopefully this next update will make a difference for it

[rare imp]

I don’t understand this terminology, shouldn’t “prime” refer to unaffected planets after origins, or “Prime” just sounds like a neat label to distinguish the two?

[icy citrus]

I don't understand the terminology either, it's just what they call them- they as in players that researched

So neat I suppose

[rare imp]

I’m thinkin’ why don’t the original worlds get the cool name, in my opinion that would be it, but guess that’s how it is

[icy citrus]

So many community names I could do without, but yeah gotta roll with the common name used

[glass flare]

i just call them Origins worlds but whatevs

[gray leaf]

The terminology for prime apparently comes for the prime symbol in maths

In physics, the prime is used to denote variables after an event. For example, vA′ would indicate the velocity of object A after an event. It is also commonly used in relativity: the event at (x, y,  z, t) in frame S, has coordinates (x′, y′, z′, t′) in frame S′.

In mathematics, the prime is generally used to generate more variable names for similar things without resorting to subscripts, with x′ generally meaning something related to (or derived from) x. For example, if a point is represented by the Cartesian coordinates (x, y), then that point rotated, translated or reflected might be represented as (x′, y′).

(According to some players 'prime' is also what they call those planets in the game files)

[lofty fable]

naah i hope all systems lol

[livid zinc]

https://youtu.be/B4Ajahuuq8s?si=pAskUa7VaGKfRXs9

[shut lichen]

Is there an end to the Atlas Eternal quest?

[analog breach]

Dont relay much no those leak vids tho.

[quick cargo]

Alright. Did travelling through the galaxy core used to reset the simulation? And are all 256 galaxies part of the same universe, or seperate universes?

[icy citrus]

Going through the galaxy core does what it has always done. However prior to Next we had no easy way to go back into a previous galaxy (you would need to travel through all the rest of the galaxies to get back to Euclid) so you would lose your base. Now we can easily go back, clearly showing it has not been reset, rather our position in it is reset.

[quick cargo]

But originally, didn't it destroy people's bases, as well?

I didn't play at launch, but was under the impression the original lore reason was that travelling to the core reset the simulation, which is why you woke up again with broken technology in a different universe (galaxy).

[icy citrus]

It didn't destroy your base, you just lost access to it

The lore of resetting isn't for any core jump

It's specifically for the Artemis Path

[quick cargo]

So, why then was null worried about you travelling through the core?

[icy citrus]

In that, he lore is still that we are resetting the Sim, even though we can back and forth

[icy citrus]

Because he won't be the only one that knows the secret

Null is a big fat liar

[unborn bough]

Traveling through the galaxy does not reset the simulaiton. It resets the iteration.
Core jumping is death, in other words.

[icy citrus]

And also a previous version of us

[quick cargo]

But he said everyone would die, didn't he?

[icy citrus]

Yes

But they don't

[quick cargo]

They didn't used to?

[icy citrus]

No, it's always been fluff - but it was good fluff as you could never go back

[quick cargo]

Like, didn't nada used to forget you after a core jump?

[icy citrus]

Well, easily anyways

[icy citrus]

And Polo

[quick cargo]

They don't forget you anymore from a core jump, though.

[unborn bough]

In the game the iteration wasn't reset, we did actually reset the entire simulation but the Atlas has been doing this for throughout his life, that's the program he is supposed to run over and over.

In a continued boundary failure lore it's revealed that the Atlas's main task was to create and run the simulation for the human scientists as a part of their experiment to find answers about the universe, life, everything.

[icy citrus]

The Atlas has always said it will reset, along with the storyline - but it's always been fluff, nothing actually gets reset. It's like when you "create" a star via the Atlas Path

[unborn bough]

Atlas has been repeating that task over and over since its inception.

[icy citrus]

Like much of the story, you determine what you believe is the truth - I play as if the core jumps do reset the simulation

[quick cargo]

I was under the impression it used to "reset" but HG later kind of retconned it because people were upset they couldn't get back to their bases, and then added a second option to "reset" the simulation lore-wise, which did the same thing as travelling through a core, except now you can pick a galaxy type.

[icy citrus]

In my brain, everything gets wiped and regenerated, and as it's a sim the time is imperceptible to us

[icy citrus]

Nope, they just removed access to your base, presuming you had done the jump when we had bases

[unborn bough]

Yes, that's correct but partially. The "reset" does not appear to happen to us as we think it should but every time there is a white loading screen followed by our exosuit saying some technical stuff is when our iteration is reset. The "Anomaly" code is "compiled and run" once again telamon (now telamon because it's the caretaker of the Anomaly code, which it used to do for the "Aeron" code).

Instead of the entire universe "we" are reset.

Same happens at every death too

[quick cargo]

Nada and Polo will still forget you if you reset the simulation during the questline. But not if you core jump anulymore

[icy citrus]

All systems, fauna ships etc, were exactly the same if you save edited back into Euclid

You just didn't have your base

[unborn bough]

yup

[icy citrus]

Lore wise, yes it's called resetting. Game mechanic wise, that's never what has happened

[unborn bough]

This but for me everything stays the same except our physical form (in the game). We are reset.

That's why whenever we die it says "Iteration reset".

[icy citrus]

Ya

[quick cargo]

Right. So, lore wise, wouldn't resetting the simulation, and then spawning in "Hilbert Dimension" not imply you travelled to a parallel universe with the same history as Euclid?

[icy citrus]

Sure, you can take it that way

As with a lot of the story, interpretation is left up to us

I'm speaking from a pure mechanical standpoint

They use one seed to gen the universe, the universe seed

[gray leaf]

That is one possible theory even for irl concepts of parallel dimensions.
It could definitely just be different iterations of a simulation

[quick cargo]

Then why was I being told I was wrong for using galaxy and universe interchangeably. Each galaxy seems to me to be the Euclid of a seperate universe.

[icy citrus]

For clarity in assisting people 🙂

One universe, many galaxies, many systems

[analog breach]

For me we play from multiple iterations view point in diffent points in simulation time

[unborn bough]

You've gotta understand one thing. There is only 1 universe but there are 255 (+1) galaxies.

[quick cargo]

But the lore even mentions multiple universes.

[unborn bough]

We never, ever, ever travel to a different "universe".

Our universe is one of many universes, according to the lore. Nada and Polo could very much be from a different universe altogether.

[icy citrus]

There are two different things happening here. One is what the lore says. One is what the community uses as reference or naming conventions.

[analog breach]

There is a world outside the simulation. U could count that as multiple universes

[quick cargo]

How do 256 galaxies all have the same three races and history?

[unborn bough]

Because that's how the simulation was setup.

It's Atlas's doing.

[icy citrus]

For the sake of consistency, we refer to it as One Universe as it is connected and we can travel freely throughout the galaxies.

[analog breach]

Because they are all simulations made by atlas

[quick cargo]

The Boundary failures mention that Atlas is running multiple simulated universes.

[unborn bough]

Atlas had 1 job, to simulate life in an artificial computer program.

he could run as many universes as he would like to, that's his problem.

[icy citrus]

We aren't saying what you said is wrong, this is based on the naming and understanding the community has arrived at. We don't call them universes. Same as we don't call portals teleporters

[unborn bough]

this ^

[icy citrus]

So if you say, I want to go to another universe - that will cause confusion among most players 🙂

[gray leaf]

The Boundary failures mention that Atlas is running multiple simulated universes.

and if considering each galaxy as different simulation, that is alluding to the 256 galaxies.
Things like teleporting to your base in another galaxy, are basically gameplay fun mechanics VS Lore reflection

[quick cargo]

Okay. I guess I'm talking more about the lore. The lore mentions a multiverse, and how they used to all be unique and had different races, but as Atlas began to fail, he started condensing the races down the 3 in every universe.

[icy citrus]

And we have had encounters with the other universes, most notably with the Normandy

🙂

[unborn bough]

Lore also mentions annihilation of an entire universe (255 +1 galaxies) in 54 minutes. 🙂
It's not our universe with our version of 255 +1 galaxies though.

[analog breach]

Because atlas is stuck in a loop. he does same things

[unborn bough]

There is Normandy, the Void Mother, the Adrift expedition was set in a truly empty universe altogether.

We have actually traveled the multiverse, so to speak.

[quick cargo]

Yes, but that frieghter with that lore travelled to ours by going through the core

[unborn bough]

yes beceause the core is the whitehole that connects different places

[analog breach]

My headcanon is that there was mass efect game on atlas hard drive somewhere xd

[unborn bough]

Hahaha! I have had this idea that the human who created atlas were a Mass Effect fans xD

[gray leaf]

to be fair, it is difficult for HG also to try to tie something like that with the Lore

and with a lore that's been expanded over the years, through scattered story telling, these things can becamo meddled with gamplay mechanics explanations

[unborn bough]

Crossover with Mass Effect meant everything in the real universe, every possible game out there is canon to NMS.

All of it.

hence the multiverse theory.

[quick cargo]

Even starship troopers.

[analog breach]

I wonder what other games atlas has there. I hope its not fortnite 💀

[unborn bough]

yes, thats why we have the liquidators.

[analog breach]

I hope atlas will not find any "homework" folder 💀💀💀

[quick cargo]

Anyway, I suppose I'll use "Galaxy" when interacting with the community, from now on, but I still feel that each one we travel to is technically a parallel version of Euclid.

[unborn bough]

That wouldn't explain why there are some galaxies which favor one type of biome(s) over other type of biomes, or why there are different core colors for different galaxies.

or why does the galactic map look like the Milkyway galaxy with a centralized bulge.

[quick cargo]

I mean, it kind of does. If you travelled to a parallel universe's version of earth, things would be different, but history may still have followed the same beats.

[unborn bough]

History where?

If you travelled to a different universe the history would've changed but since you're in one single universe the universal history is the same.

"we humans" are not even type 1 civilization but the Triads are.

[quick cargo]

The First Spawn rising and taking over the galaxy (starting from a specific point in the galaxy) is the same in each galaxy.

[unborn bough]

The Atlas is the god of the NMS universe.

The first spawn did that in every galaxy.

Be it Euclid or Odyatulai.

[quick cargo]

Or... they did it in the "Euclid" of each alternate universe.

[unborn bough]

It still doesn't expalin how Broomerrai is Euclid.

[quick cargo]

Same history. Different proc-gen.

Atlas condensed all the lores of all the universes as he failed.

It's the same galaxy, different universe.

[unborn bough]

Atlas didn't win or fail any universe though, that is not what it is supposed to do.

It's sole task is to simulate and end.

Rinse and repeat.

It does not influence.

When it did, it trapped telamon into the exosuit of the traveler.

When it did, it understood it is dying.

When it did, it created -null-

[quick cargo]

The Boundary failure logs mention the Atlas speaks through the simulation. It is speaking by having the same history happen in each universe.

The First Spawn war and all that has a much bigger meaning.

[unborn bough]

you know who is speakig to you in the boundary failure logs?

[quick cargo]

Telemon.

[unborn bough]

The lore of this game isn't limited to the boundary failure logs, there's a lot spread over multiple sources.

Both of the ARG included.

[quick cargo]

Yes. I've read them all.

Pretty sure the ARG isn't fully canon.

[unborn bough]

The first spawn war has no "bigger meaning". It's just a thing that has happened in every single simulation that the Atlas has run.

[quick cargo]

It does, though. It was used to drive the Sentinels to start archiving the simulation.

[unborn bough]

The conditions have been the same, no matter what the Atlas had tried the conditions had always been the same.

[quick cargo]

Right. The Atlas can't fix the fact it's being destroyed by a black hole externally in 16 minutes.

[gray leaf]

the ARG always throws stuff for a spin :>

[unborn bough]

Uhhhh!

Blackhole?

[quick cargo]

Right? I wasn't here from the ARG, but everything I've heard about it seems to indicate it didn't follow the game's canon 100%.

[quick cargo]

Remembrance logs.

I told you I've read them all.

||"Five minutes left

It witnesses its own self, the black hole ripping apart its world, its core systems almost destroyed."||

[unborn bough]

You mean this?
16/16
The ATLAS witnesses the final sixteen minutes, simulating the future with perfect accuracy.

The walls between worlds fall, each simulation collapsing into the other.

Ten minutes left

The Travellers are no longer separated, no longer kept apart. They stand side by side at the end of days, traversing the remnants of creation, laughing, dying.

Five minutes left

It witnesses its own self, the black hole ripping apart its world, its core systems almost destroyed.

One minute left

And as it watches the moments leading up to its own death, towards completion of sixteen, something happens.

Someone walks towards the ATLAS, a figure in the darkness and in the light. It places its hand against the glass of the ATLAS, and the vision ends.

The ATLAS attempts to see past this moment, but it cannot. It cannot see its own death. It cannot determine who this figure is.

But whatever happens... whatever may occur beyond the sixteen... something will arrive. Something will be there beside it.

At the end of all things, it will no longer be alone.

It's an interpretation.

[muted cliff]

so

gents

and lasses

and vice versa

I've been playing literally since when the game out and I'm totally happy with how the stuff, the juicy one, has evolved so far.

As for @unborn bough: Maybe no one really dies and just happens again and again and again and again and again?

With the small, but pretty important difference: You get to keep your memories as entity.

And that means, not just your characters, but also you. You're the real entity. Your IRL you.

This is actually a scientifical concept in terms of consciousness.

[unborn bough]

Hence the symbolism in NMS

The cyclic nature of life and death, and consciousness.

[muted cliff]

Can the entity experiencing your life, specifically the one that is experiencing your current life and not the one of any other being, happen to experience again, as it happened before, long after it perished?

[unborn bough]

I believe the lore isn’t a story written by some author(s). It asks philosophical questions and plays with philosophical ideas.

And mysticism, mythology etc.

[muted cliff]

Well, they have adapted it.

There's little mysticism or mythology actually. It's more about philosophy, as you say.

But there's a grain of truth to it.

[unborn bough]

The whole atlas, telamon, atlantid, etc is from mythology.

[muted cliff]

When we die, the entity experiencing falls out of time. It wont even know it existed, exists or whatsoever. But there's no boundary preventing "it" from happening again.

[unborn bough]

Some truth, yes, some fourth wall breaks too.

[muted cliff]

Yeah, but the baseline of mythology is literally the philosophical aspect of life.

[unborn bough]

Biggest comes from our beloved exosuit voice.

[quick cargo]

Interpretation?!

[muted cliff]

So, will some day another being appear, out of nothing, maybe after trillions of years, only to "experience" again?

:>

Will that 1 pop up after a never ending chain of 0s?

Again? 😄

And the fun fact is: As it already has happened, there's nothing preventing it from happening again.

[icy citrus]

Just did

[muted cliff]

Also, what I found a very refreshing aspect after coming back to NMS, was the continuation of the story by making clear, that the sentinel protocol failed and therefor the glass protocol stept into action, overriding the sentinel protocol

[unborn bough]

yeah! There is no "blackhole". If there was a blackhole that killed the Atlas its creator would have died too.

[muted cliff]

When I came to see my first hyperborean corrupted planet yesterday, I was absolutely amazed.

[quick cargo]

The creators left.

[unborn bough]

"And as it watches the moments leading up to its own death, towards completion of sixteen, something happens.

Someone walks towards the ATLAS, a figure in the darkness and in the light. It places its hand against the glass of the ATLAS, and the vision ends."

Blackhole would have killed this someone.

[muted cliff]

That's still subject to discussion

lol

[unborn bough]

LOL!

It's an interpretation of a death sequence.

[muted cliff]

like, IRL it's subject to discussion

Actually, a person crossing the event horizon is in the process of dying - literally forever, according to physical standards (if you werent to die because of other factors)

[muted cliff]

Well, you gotta go home at some point and have a nap, don't you

xd

[quick cargo]

It probably does for all we know. The someone may have been the creator returning because it couldn't bear to leave the Atlas to die alone?

Or maybe he came to take its physical storage (world of glass) before it died?

[muted cliff]

yeah, maybe the company closed down and they're keeping it alive at home?

:>

I mean, look at Nada.

He did just that.

[icy citrus]

Keep in mind that all we know is imparted to us via the Atlas

Could be lying all over the place

[muted cliff]

Could be, of course. Then again, the system integrity is touched / tainted.

Like faulty clusters on a drive

[icy citrus]

It's borked

Which is fun for game purposes

They can add anything and justify it

[muted cliff]

ofc

if atlas achieved singularity it'd be doing everything it could to stay alive

[quick cargo]

Some is imparted by Telemon, other Travellers and Laylaps.

[icy citrus]

Atlas is the Sim

Therefore all knowledge we come by is allowed or created by the Atlas

[muted cliff]

wasn't it Tethys who said that Atlas isn't neither good or bad towards us?

[quick cargo]

But Telemon and Sentinels were not part of the simulation. They have outsider knowledge

[icy citrus]

So they say

Which the Atlas allowed them to say

[muted cliff]

right, because Atlas could have just erased them

[icy citrus]

Just pointing out, Simulation as existence is a wild rabbit hole

[quick cargo]

Laylaps is working for Void Mother, not Atlas, though

[icy citrus]

So it says

[quick cargo]

The Travellers mention it, too!

[icy citrus]

My point is that the Atlas could stop that

Wipe us

Wipe them

[muted cliff]

at any time

Indeed.

It's the supreme administrative routine

[icy citrus]

Basically we have to determine what we believe in this game

[muted cliff]

There's no higher power, besides the big finger.

[icy citrus]

Atlas could totally be letting this happen, as it's also part of the desired sim

[quick cargo]

I thought it couldn't wipe Telemon. That's why Atlas placed him in the Simulation. To kind of "dispose" of him.

[icy citrus]

Void mommy could be intruding

[icy citrus]

Logic that out though

Couldn't remove, but could place as an exosuit?

Seems convenient

Just happens to be ours too

[muted cliff]

Just happens to be the one from everyone.

[icy citrus]

Aye ours as in all of us

[quick cargo]

Atlas has authority over the simulation, but not all processes outside of that. So he placed the processes inside the...

Oh.

[muted cliff]

As if it was trying to get different outcomings.

[quick cargo]

But Atlas can't see the Living Frigates. Or so they say.

[icy citrus]

Nor the Space Anomaly

It's pretty fun

So many permutations

I think people that don't enjoy the story also didn't really get hooked enough to start thinking about it

Fun mental playtime

[muted cliff]

was the idea, Destiny did this too.

Offering a playful platform with deeper stuff to dig into - if you're really into it.

[icy citrus]

I love it 😄

[quick cargo]

Honestly, I like to think the Atlas is trying to save it's creation. It's motive seems to be to please its creator, so it wants to hold onto its own creation in the off chance the creator returns to see it.

However, the plan to back up the simulation involved creating a back-up of the Atlas (Korvax Prime) and then archiving it into physical storage (world of glass). The problem is that Korvax Prime wasn't made aware of the plan ahead of time and is extremely upset over the whole ordeal.

[muted cliff]

Same. Other games tried to go that path too - and failed gloriously. Elite Dangerous, e.g. (Sorry for OT)

[muted cliff]

Yeah, but then again, who tells you, that with the next Save you start, you're in the same universe of the same simulation?

[icy citrus]

By its own lore, all of this is supposed to happen and has happened

[muted cliff]

You see, when I first started playing NMS the game had literally nothing to offer. And with each new update, I started periodically a new save.

It had something to offer, ngl.

But you can look at the Space Stations, how they evolved. The mechanics, the core story, etc.

[quick cargo]

I think, lore-wise, new updates are caused by either the Atlas failing (boundaries collapsing), or Void Mother taking control and restoring old system functions.

[muted cliff]

It'd be totally canon imo that we died a hundred millions of times only to come back and experience more.

[icy citrus]

Sure, def possible

[quick cargo]

I suppose technically, being a new Traveller would mean it is a seperate universe.

[muted cliff]

Or we're simply a self conscious entity

[icy citrus]

I personally believe Void Mother and the Abyss are the same thing, she has combined or integrated with discarded and defunct systems of the Atlas and is attempting to change/takeover the sim

[muted cliff]

I mean, let's be honest. What does it take to "experience". And what exactly is it, that experiences, when consciousness is just the framework?

At which point is something considered a conscious, self-aware being?

Who defines what free will is?

[muted cliff]

And this is actually the point.

Who tells me, that I'm not just someone playing this awesome permadeath MMORPG called "Life".

Paid 20 bucks to enjoy the ultimate hardcore experience.

1 life in 10 minutes.

Or how is it to be a bacteria?

[icy citrus]

See? Rabbit hole

Weeeeeeee

[muted cliff]

Aye :>

So there's me, playing "Life", without being aware of playing "Life", while playing "NMS", being aware of playing "NMS", while my avatar in "NMS" isn't aware of me playing "NMS" through him.

Imagine Artemis

poor sod

[quick cargo]

Eh. I'm not really into the whole consciousness meta-stuff.

I think the game addresses nihilism well enough: Does it matter if everything will end and everything we've worked for will cease to exist? Why not? We still get to have fun while it lasts.

I don't need any hope beyond that.

[muted cliff]

But, will it?

I mean, yeah, of course it does end.

But we won't know it ever ended.

But in order to not know that it ever ended, another exception has to happen again.

[quick cargo]

So I guess it doesn't matter if it will end. All that matters is the present.

[muted cliff]

Did it matter before you (re-)happened?

[quick cargo]

I mean, history is good to learn from, so you don't need to make the same mistakes as those who came before.

But otherwise, no.

[muted cliff]

aye

[native carbon]

man im sooo hyped up for worlds part 2

[muted cliff]

isn't the goal of experience to experience as much as possible?

^^

[native carbon]

i really hope they gonna add deep oceans

[muted cliff]

but to make sure that your way of experiencing isn't tainted, all sorts of memory must be purged

Otherwise I'd be asking for my 20 bucks, because the oh-so-hardcore experience wouldn't be so hardcore.

Or maybe I'm just not looking for the hardcore experience, but rather for the bugs in the system?

Anyways, I love this game.

And yes, @native carbon, can't wait for it either.

is it ok to post links here?

[icy citrus]

It is, if it is directly related to NMS or the conversation at hand

[muted cliff]

1. https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2506901649373464055/C27B88BAC2C7732D8A131CE5791F45E0CF1B722A/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

2. https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2506901649373465696/A818BB1134BF773BE55291EE5216BBF40FFB03FD/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

3. https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2506901649373466404/AE5E4F86B6DEF11FC1E28B8AEAD3208763661094/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

there

[icy citrus]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2506901649373464055/C27B88BAC2C7732D8A131CE5791F45E0CF1B722A/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2506901649373465696/A818BB1134BF773BE55291EE5216BBF40FFB03FD/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2506901649373466404/AE5E4F86B6DEF11FC1E28B8AEAD3208763661094/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

BEEG

We are back up to 4

👀

[muted cliff]

back up to 4? 😮

😄

So yeah, there's that

things are prone to happen over and over again

in endless variations

when NMS came out you can call it the beginning - and I feel like the arc is amazing.

It's like IG "ATLAS" has been polishing itself

I remember when they did the ARGs, really enjoyed it

[gray leaf]

curious there is at least one entry that mentions awareness of the anomaly and "the gek and the korvax". And "allowing them to be", "not interfere".
Signs point towards the anomaly not being so secret 🤔

[icy citrus]

👀

[glass flare]

yeah I think the Sentinels basically are like "we got more important **** to do, like doing normal cop stuff like harassing people just trying to mine rocks"

[gray leaf]

oh right, something like "we observed and allowed them to be".
I don't remember where that entry was from

[glass flare]

Sentinel Pillar lore, 15th encounter:

A Korvax and a Gek fled their people. Hands held in the void, they inhabited an anomaly. A meeting place in the stars. A nexus. A place of hope. We left it alone. We did not interfere. We just watched them, and wondered.

[gray leaf]

Perfect thank you solar! I wish you were a pinger tho

[cinder siren]

Do we know if space combat will get better soon?

[thin pawn]

so wait, theres a gek and korvax at the anamoly, but no Vykeen?

[glass flare]

A pinger? Oh haha you want pings? I always try to not disturb people by default

[gray leaf]

the vy'keen have more important things to do.
Hiding from sentinels is also against their whole nature

[gray leaf]

it seemed useful if you disturbed to give good info lol
I don't mind pings but it's all the same :p

[empty mesa]

Hey I'm at what I think might be the end of the the purge and atlas path quest line. Do I get forces to complete one or the other?

[gray leaf]

can kinda be completed at the same time.
If you're at the end phase (the purge) you can hop through atlas interface systems and go inside to start completing both quests

[empty mesa]

Ok thank you. I didn't want to be totally locked out of something.

[muted cliff]

is there any way to re-read the glyphs you've been receiving in the sequence?

[frigid valley]

The purge glyphs?

[muted cliff]

y

[frigid valley]

Arent those just glyphs from 1 to 16?

The game just unlocks glyphs for you iirc

I dont think they have any meaning and I dont think there is any way to see the sequence again unless you start a new save and get to the purge again.

I remember core warping once during the purge and It resets the sequence back to 1/16 iirc

[muted cliff]

I see, been wondering because you receive the glyphs during Artemis's mission afaik.

Or at least they're pre-set @ the monoliths.

I was more like: What if the order of the glyphs are a portal address?

(I'm probably wrong but yeah)

[frigid valley]

Yeah, in story I assume the data injections you get are coordinates for atlas final interface you enter at the end of the purge

As I said I remember restarting the purge by a core warp. I just don't remember if the glyphs you see stsrt again from or of they continue where you left

Bc the game continues unlocking glyphs, if you got to glyph 8 before core warp then the next unlocked glyph will be glyph 9

But you also see the glyph in the tool tip in the right bottom corner right. I think that glyph corresponds to the sequence and not to the glyphs that is unlocked but Im not sure, it was long time ago.

So if you got to glyph 8 before core warp then next unlocked glyph will be glyph 9

But glyph in the tool tip will be the first glyph

Either way

I don't think that glyphs in the sequence have any special meaning, but I might be wrong

[muted cliff]

I didn't track them, hence my question 😄

[zenith perch]

There's a lore reason for it tbf

[glass flare]

hassling us for mining? yeah basically they don't want a repeat of the First Spawn strip mining Korvax Prime. but it's still annoying lol

[muted cliff]

btw. guys

is it still like before? Having Indium drive overwrites all other ones in terms of system access?

[gray leaf]

ye. But a question for #nms-questions or general though not spoilers

[tight mantle]

@gray leaf Between the option of risking someone's suffering or ending the suffering they're going through, I'd rather just give them mercy

[gray leaf]

Not sure i'd consider it suffering.
being unable to fulfill a life dream and be limited in their exploration sure can be saddening,
But it's still better in my view than nothing at all

[tight mantle]

Nada mentioned Artemis was suffering in the mind ark, it's not really just about the simulation

[gray leaf]

someone suffering an accident and getting stuck to a wheelchair unable to fulfill their dreams of becoming an athlete may suffer, but most would still turn that around and make something out of their existance.
It's up to the individual

[tight mantle]

Artemis wouldn't stop suffering even in the simulation, and they'd eventually just hate us if they found that out

[gray leaf]

Perhaps lying to them about the nature of their situation, isn't the owrse, or is it?

[tight mantle]

Wouldn't they suffer either way?

They can either find out the truth though us or on their own

[gray leaf]

idk.. Human beings may spend generations trying to find their way out of this solar system and still never attain it.
to me we're not much better than artemis. At least they got a cool spaceship to get around planets and all

[glass flare]

I think the hardest part would be not being able to talk to anyone. And having that existence go on forever? Like what was the progress of time like compared to outside Artemis's simulation?

[gray leaf]

That's the beauty of the scattered and off the nose lore in this game.
It poses more existencialism and philosofical questions than anything

[tight mantle]

Artemis mentioned us being gone for over 20 years before we put them in the mind ark, so I'd assume it's something like that

[tight mantle]

It's definitely fun to take the time and think about all of this

[valid barn]

just pull the plug

[solar hazel]

Is there a reason that different species coinhabit a dominant lifeforms system? I thought they really don’t like each other

[slate palm]

Lorewise which is the better option, to reset the simulation or refuse?

[gray leaf]

No difference, it's a rolepllay personal choice

the end result is only slightly different but identical in gameplay

[gray leaf]

ah sorry you were talking about artemis path

[slate palm]

yes

[sour fossil]

I mean, getting access to another galaxy for free is kinda big deal

[gray leaf]

Resetting will give you a choice of new galaxy

[slate palm]

A choice? Elaborate

[gray leaf]

you will be presented with a few colours to choose from, representing different types of galaxies

[slate palm]

I thought it just sent you to the next in the list, hmm

[gray leaf]

that is with core warping

core warping will always take you to the next, this is your only chance to skip a few without a taxi ride

Choosing green for example puts you in a Lush galaxy type, Eissentam #10

Not resetting means you can stay

be mindful resetting will have the same effect as core warping, so broken tech,

[slate palm]

Well, if you have bases in the galaxy you're able to return at will, no?

[gray leaf]

yea you can return through teleporters.

But the broken tech is something you may want to prepare for

Using sacrificial ship and multitool, packaging your tech mods, etc

[slate palm]

Oh I'm on a creative save so that issue is non-existent

[gray leaf]

Alternatively you can switch difficulty setting crafting free to fix them anyways

[slate palm]

Creative save due to being on Switch and my main save breaking worse and worse with every update

[gray leaf]

you're all set then. it;s just a matter of choosing your galaxy type

[slate palm]

What do all the colors represent?

I know green is lush

but what are the other 3

[gray leaf]

harsh galaxy is red, empty is blue, and the other is a normal galaxy like euclid

[slate palm]

I assume harsh is ones with extreme conditions and empty is like the dead planets?

[gray leaf]

it basically changes the probablilities for certain biomes in the yellow star systems

harsh can give you more extreme planets / activated metals, empty weights a bit more towards dead / empty planets

but all biomes can still be found just the same

[slate palm]

Alright, thanks!

[dense quartz]

Fixed an issue which caused reflections to appear darker than they should.

This one uncoming fix is more exciting to me than anything I've seen HG do for the past 4 years.
...And I'm sure I'll be the only person on Earth who will appreciate it lol.

[icy citrus]

Don't lay money on that 🙂

[dense quartz]

I thought it was a bug for the longest time until I saw the Light No Fire trailer where it had the same thing, you literally couldn't see stuff in broad daylight they were so dark.

So I thought it was a weird deliberate look they were going for.
And today I find out it's been a bug the whole time lol.

[uncut harness]

lets gooooooooooooooooooooo

where'd you read this at

[dense quartz]

Steam experimental branch patch notes.

[uncut harness]

im slow when it comes to that stuff lemme check it out thank u

[uncut harness]

cant find it where are they lol

[dense quartz]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/4511003079822341151/

[uncut harness]

that makes sense thank you

[icy citrus]

Can also run: !experimental

[dense quartz]

Funny how it says they improved collision on floating islands, but what they actually did was added collision to all existing ones.
The collision on the waterfall one is still the same unfortunately.

[prime urchin]

Oh, so we can land on more of them now?

[gloomy isle]

Yeah the rivers are still not great 😦

The rest work perfectly though so I'm happy

[prime urchin]

I look forward to testing it when time allows

[stray slate]

so canonically, can travellers be ressurected or are we more anomalous than travellers in game?

because if reconstruction can be done to travellers, why are there still dead travellers?

or are they just people who "gave up"?

[gloomy isle]

Pretty sure we don't canonically respawn like we do in game, but we're just the next iteration

I could be wrong though

[stray slate]

hmm, that could be an explanation

wait so the simulation reiterates minds that are lost in the simulation?

[frigid valley]

I remember there being a derelict log saying that travellers just return or something similar

[muted cliff]

Think about it the other way around: You respawn because you got nanites.

If you don't respawn, aka Travellers, they didn't have nanites.

plop

I'm playing only permadeath because yeah

Makes it saltier

[gloomy isle]

Every traveller is just a different iteration of the singular traveller right? Since it's one per iteration of the galaxy

[muted cliff]

Tbh I've no idea.

But some stuff has to be made up with headcanon

One has to compensate the gameplay aspects built into the game.

Just like @stray slate's question.

I mean, technically, ATLAS could do whatever it pleases, as far as boundaries go.

So, technically there are Travellers and Premium Travellers (you, e.g.)

e.g. get to be respawned because of ATLAS sake

[stray slate]

man, imagine getting the non premium package on the earth life preservation initiatife

what a bleak end of the world scenario the nms meta is

all of that work only to get sucked into a blackhole

[muted cliff]

well, dunno, I'm playing the non-premium Traveller 😄

Death lurks behind every non-loaded floor

[stray slate]

nice, how is that faring for you?

[muted cliff]

good so far.

The fact that you're more careful makes it a bit more spicy

[icy citrus]

During the ARG, there were fake companies set up. One of them offered immortality storage (mind) in the form of glass drives.

Or glass storage anyways - not called drives, but I forget the exact wording

[muted cliff]

the stupid thing is that one can't overcome the hard problem of consciousness... you'd be just a copy, that wouldn't even be you 😦

another entity would take the steering wheel of that consciousness

Yeah 😭

[stray slate]

You know, speaking of glass drives

The fact that a group is developing glass drives irl is beyond fascinating

[muted cliff]

lol

[frigid valley]

I mean, it's cool and all but #off-topic-bond-james-bond would be a better place

Let's stick to NMS here

[stray slate]

Hahaha, ok ok

[muted cliff]

Hm

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2506901649379500656/042BFB846D9623A061725FA54D05FAE4F3DD4AC6/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

So

This could be a bug, of course.

But then again, it's Calypso

So I discovered this system yesterday.

But it seems like it was 10 years ago.

😄

[icy citrus]

How time flies

[stray slate]

you know

i found it funny that the korvax were made with an inflection that says eheu each time

kinda like a posh anime character

theoretically speaking, if atlas were a bit more weebish, it could make the korvax say uwu each time, lol

[dense quartz]

I installed the unused biomes mod and stuff like this really makes me wish it's coming in Part 2.

[icy citrus]

Odds are high

Like, very high

[dense quartz]

Fingers crossed.

I remember when Fractal leaked the space stations, they were totally finished on the outside and I knew they were coming, like way too much work was put into those models to not be released, even if it took a year.
But these assets look really unfinished, so I'm not sure how likely it is it'll arrive this year at least.

[muted cliff]

lol

has someone completed the autophague binary?

the main repository is the nms wiki fandom?

Ah, let me guess. It's the introduction to void mommy?

[native carbon]

im like 70% sure we are getting an ocean update in part 2

[native carbon]

"really" unfinished? for me they look allmost finished lol

just need textures

[glass flare]

I'm excited for whatever Part 2 holds. I know it'll be cool, and if they're pushing the date then it's something they really want to get right

[native carbon]

sameee, apparently those new datamined ocean biomes would spawn in "deepwater" regions of the planets, that got me hyped up

even tho it doesnt guarantee anything im sure we are getting deeper oceans

my jaw will hit the floor if its gonna be like 1000u deep

500u would also be fine ngl

[dense quartz]

It's more than that, the shapes are really basic and have no collision. It's like primitive shapes you'd use to model out the actual model out of it.

I saw the unused desert biome and those have a lot of finished assets and ground textures, though curiously only one of the trees models look really unfinished and has no collisions.

[dense quartz]

Implemented custom colour choice for Liquidator Minotaurs.

Thank you so much... I've wanted this ever since the Sentinel update. 😅

[simple notch]

Asking here just in case it's a spoiler, but there aren't any quests that lead to an end of things that cause loss of everything, or no way to get back to my old bases/resources/ships/etc right? I swore in NMS in the past there was some quest that put you in a whole other place like you were starting over but I could be thinking of a different game or just not remember correctly.

[frigid valley]

No, in current NMS there is no quest that would cut you off from your bases and other things

Maybe in the past but I haven't played in that time

[simple notch]

Thank you. ❤️

[pliant aurora]

Yeah im really curious how deep they will be

[opal mulch]

yeah I remember this, they killed him and he kept returning

[dense quartz]

At one point in the main quest, everything in your exosuit, ship and multitool inventory gets destroyed. It caused a lot of people to quit on the spot apparently.

You can avoid that by either swapping to a crap ship and multitool before making the jump, or carry a ton of repair kits with you to easily repair everything.

[hollow osprey]

After my first galaxy reset can I use the atlas seed to reset it again? Or do I need to go through the galaxy center every time?

[gray leaf]

After completing the story the only way to move galaxies is by core warping or using a taxi ride

[hollow osprey]

Okay thanks

[gray leaf]

Teleporting to a base you see in the anomaly teleporter works too ofc

[wet pier]

@gray leaf What giant dead interloper?

[gray leaf]

unreleased content that didn't make it for worlds part 1 but its in the game files

Some people made mods to make these spawn so they're splattering it across the interwebs

[wet pier]

Cool. What do they call it?

[gray leaf]

We don't even know yet if it will show up for next update.

sometimes content left in files never gets released nor finished or may take a long time

[wet pier]

What do people call it so I can google it?

[sour fossil]

The statue is referred to as Iron Giant in game files

[wet pier]

Huh yeah that thing is extraordinarily iron giant-y

[gray leaf]

i mean it's right here just some posts above 🙂
#nms-spoilers message

[native carbon]

600u+ deep at least 😭

[analog breach]

We have 1000u mountais. Need 1000u deep oceans

[ebon spoke]

Haven't looked at them in a while, but the unused Waterworld biome type added back in Origins is hardcoded to have a significantly higher sea level than other planets

so if they finally use that then we should get way deeper oceans

[icy citrus]

That's the dream

[muted moth]

oooh here's where people are talking about all the new goodies to come, forgot

[brittle pagoda]

This looks awesome

[median island]

Void mommy reference??? (when atlantideum is put into nada's simulation machine)

but what does

the void mother have to do with autophage/atlantideum

I thought she was the one responsible for the corruption

Atlantideum is a part of the corruption?

[lofty fable]

dont know the point of deeper oceans

what exactly do we want deeper oceans for?

they already go pretty deep as is

[native carbon]

😠

first of all, they are too shallow for an ocean

its how deep lakes should be

[lofty fable]

it doesn't really matter

[native carbon]

2nd of all - would look cooler

3rd of all - nautilion would have use

4th of all - subnautica

and i could continue and continue

[native carbon]

it does

[lofty fable]

it will never be like subnautica bro

deeper oceans just bring variety but nothing else really and the leaked ocean bioms are awful i hope they are not finished lol

[native carbon]

awfull u say?

[native carbon]

did the new biomes they added add something else then just variety?

[lofty fable]

that allegedly isnt even real tho

it's modded

[native carbon]

mod that brings back unused content 🤦‍♂️

[lofty fable]

there's a video that goes over that modpack bro, and it looks nothing like this

it's not even close

[native carbon]

okok fine

let me guess

u are that type of a guy who wants rivers in the game right

[lofty fable]

i literally hope that is real tho but things said in here have me doubting it

[native carbon]

tbh same but like

[lofty fable]

i'm up for deeper oceans and rivers

simply because they add variety

[native carbon]

deeper oceans would just be soo amazing

[lofty fable]

but what im trying to say is

[native carbon]

imagine swimming and not seeing the oceans floor

[lofty fable]

deeper oceans are a little overrated wanted feature

[native carbon]

not overated, its because how bad the oceans are in the game u know

boring biomes (at least imo) and super shallow (max 120u)

we have 1000u high mountains

why not 1000u deep oceans

u know

[lofty fable]

like it'd be mostly cool for building if they actually added new underwater build parts too with more purpose for example

[native carbon]

also nautilion is simply useless

[lofty fable]

most of the exocrafts got not use really

[native carbon]

i mean okay fast underwater travel but they literally added water jets making it even more useless

[lofty fable]

i think the one that can travel on water is the best one

most useful one

[analog breach]

With 1000 u depth using nautilion would had sense

[native carbon]

yup

[lofty fable]

purely for travel speed tho

[analog breach]

Now ure good with just suit water jets

[lofty fable]

maybe if they impletened crush depth

thered be an element of survival to it

[native carbon]

yeah crush depth with 120u oceans lol, do u understand us now?

nautilion crush depth upgrades

[analog breach]

Subnatica style?

[native carbon]

yup

[lofty fable]

but with crush depth

you wouldnt be able to build in deeper oceans

so what r they gonna do

[native carbon]

or make so u can only use deepsea chamber thinnys

[grizzled apex]

I mean, it is

[lofty fable]

if u confirm it then its gotta be real lol

[analog breach]

Would be awesone if water biome had diffrent power source

[grizzled apex]

A lot of people using the mod don't factor the planet life setting when recording

I've had both extremely empty and immensely full spawns of those underwater biomes trying to test them out

[native carbon]

imagine hitting the sea floor after like 5mins of swimming

(using the nautilion)

[icy citrus]

The assets datamined are real.

When or if they make it to the game is the question

[analog breach]

Hopefuly soon

[native carbon]

yooo hi sean

[icy citrus]

But they just gave us water landings, so I gotta think all the water biomes will be happening soon

[native carbon]

bruh gleam

lmaoooo

i called u sean

[icy citrus]

Ya

[lofty fable]

a water themed expedition too 100% lol

[honest grove]

gleam is secretly sean murray

[icy citrus]

Oh for sure

[honest grove]

how do you know

[native carbon]

do u think we will be getting something today?

like a small teaser?

[icy citrus]

Maybe the exp pushed to public

[icy citrus]

No

[native carbon]

: <

[analog breach]

Just a Tweet about 8y of nms is max of my expectations.

[native carbon]

at what time do they usually post?

[gray leaf]

they're too busy working to even remember the anniversary

[gloomy isle]

Nautilon probably protects against pressure

Plus suit upgrades maybe?

I wonder if they'd ever give the Nautilon heath

[native carbon]

Loool

[native carbon]

I really dont want to see the oceans floor while flying

[analog breach]

Its ok. We remember.

[gray leaf]

they even forget to show up to receive Awards smh

[analog breach]

Imo they didint forget.

[gray leaf]

of course not. but that's not as funny

[pliant aurora]

hyped af

[native carbon]

(real)

[timid mist]

The one after worlds pt 1 has the same sort of vignette pattern at the bottom corners but dark rather than light. Not that we didn't know it would be pt 2 lol, but neat

[glass flare]

the Atlas Bossfight meme has already filled the subreddit with misinformation and confused a lot of new players, do we really need to see it here also

[timid mist]

do people not see piss and treat the rest as a joke too

Or does the reddit version not have piss

[grizzled apex]

If these are update covers, they might be a lil zoomed in / manipulated too (not that we can make much out anyway lol), going off this older version

[native carbon]

the atlas bossfight and piss update is a joke, but im serious with the ocean one

[timid mist]

That one looks like just a big background

[glass flare]

people on the subreddit were making tons of serious posts about a bossfight that doesn't exist in order to trick AI content scrapers into posting about it or something. all it did was hurt new players

[timid mist]

But yeah who knows

[grizzled apex]

You can't make out the headline feature in the blurred corner spots since they're zoomed in versions of the exo mech and living ship covers. Might be the same case here

[timid mist]

Ohhh I gotcha

Oh yeah NVM I see what you mean

[native carbon]

in this case its just a blurry image in the background

in the new image they posted the blurry images dont match at all

[grizzled apex]

they're not a background. they're cropped/zoomed + blurred versions of the update cover art right next to the corner spots

[native carbon]

oh

[native carbon]

wait can i see?

[timid mist]

Not clear enough to make much of a difference anyways but 3 spaces is interesting. Incoming handful of "worlds 4 parts?" Sub posts lol

[analog breach]

ARG part 4 when

[native carbon]

piss update

[timid mist]

hell yeah

Catheter installation for piss collection

[native carbon]

piss update when tho

[gloomy isle]

What's this from?

Part 2 could be atlas themed? 🤔

[pliant aurora]

3 more new updates?

It would be crazy if they do four parts to worlds

[native carbon]

Seans tweet

about 8th anniversary

[pliant aurora]

hope they all drop this year

[tidal trench]

Just now wrapping up the Artemis questline!

It damages all of my tech?!😭

RIP

[gloomy isle]

I'm 99% sure the part 2 art is an underwater scene and some sort of chasm, or just a steep drop into the depths

The palette is super murky and you can see darker bits on the left and the right

[glass flare]

I'm 99% sure those are just blurred placeholder images because they wouldn't have the key art already finished for three future updates

[gloomy isle]

Probably for the latter two

I wouldn't be surprised if the key art for part 2 was at least partially done

[glass flare]

yeah Part 2 might be done

[native carbon]

same

[gloomy isle]

I can just imagine the cover art travellers being shown swimming down into it

[native carbon]

sameeeee

and like a monster at the bottom

[fluid valley]

I didnt follow, whats going on exactly ?

[runic mesa]

Sean tweeted about the anniversary, with a summary of the past update covers + what appears to be three blurred upcoming ones.

[fluid valley]

Oooooh nice

Thx @runic mesa

[dense quartz]

Not to be that guy... but remember when they gave us the space station cores and override items?
It's been 4 years and we're still waiting to see if those will have a purpose.

[icy citrus]

That's why we talk about datamined stuff here

And we had wind power datamined long before those 🙂

[dense quartz]

Actually, I don't really get the wind thing. I've explored a lot of planets but it just looks to me like it's particles spawned around the player going in one direction and doesn't really affect anything around it. Dunno what I'm missing.

[gloomy isle]

Basically most/ all pre existing particle effects are plugged into it

So smoke from fires, rain in storms, wave intensity etc all depend on wind and its direction

[dense quartz]

Oh! I actually remember only noticing the storm crystals and shards had their particles go in the direction of the wind. 😄

[gloomy isle]

Yep! On lush planets you can see low lying clouds of mist drifting over hills too

And the wind can pick up without there being a storm too. I think cloud cover changes throughout the day as well

[dense quartz]

Yeah I stared at a lot of clouds. It's insane how varied they are.

There was one planet I thought for sure was in a storm when I was landing, but turns out it was a calm paradise planet and the whole sky just happened to be covered in clouds.

[gloomy isle]

Yeah stuff like that is really cool

Part one has done a lot for the more subtle things that can set planets apart

[dense quartz]

Yeah, it's a shame a lot of it isn't being noticed by a lot of players. Like a lot of people said they jumped to 10 different planets and literally don't see anything different except the water.

[glass flare]

trees and plants as well

[dense quartz]

Kinda like how space station interiors have a lot of variety but most people chalk it up to "just color changes"

[gloomy isle]

The standout planets you can find are also a bit more exciting now I find

With the addition of extra rare water and sky etc

[glass flare]

Still can't believe we finally have trees that move. Been wanting that since 1.0

[gloomy isle]

This is my new favourite ngl

[glass flare]

now if we could have birds landing in trees... 🥹

[gloomy isle]

Would be amazing ngl. Especially if it meant we could tame them

[glass flare]

Well I just think it'd add to the worlds feeling more alive. Like you're walking by a tree and suddenly four birds get startled and fly out of it. Or they're just chilling there and look down at you. Maybe they could also improve the bird vocal sounds and do some bird songs

[hollow osprey]

Can you use the refiner duplication trick on anything in your inventory?

[errant socket]

We all saw the quilt
Right

Tease
For next three updates

[ebon spoke]

Oceans, Purple stars, Biomes all separate updates maybe?

seems odd for Hello Games to have updates planned this far in advance (and apparently have the cover images for those updates ready)

[sour fossil]

Wait they do? That's an official image?

[ebon spoke]

Yeah from Sean's twitter

[analog breach]

Im not complaning. 3 more free updates. Question is. Will they all drop this year

[sour fossil]

Let's gooooo 5 hours videos on analyzing every blurry pixel and what it means for the future of the game

[analog breach]

Last pic has very simliar composition as the worlds.

Worlds part2?

Middle one is most intresting for me. Red sky, some object in the middle.

First looks like some biome landscape

[opal mulch]

i mean, a lot of these groupings of 3 (like fractals -> echoes) were all within about 6 months. all 3 of those updates could be released by april

i imagine they typically have to plan at least this far in advance to function tbh

[sour fossil]

Judging by the stealth change of patch notes text that used to read "more to come later this summer" and now it's just "later"

I'd assume the middle one is the part2

The colours scheme could tie into the datamined purple star systems

[opal mulch]

well also consider summer ends literally next month