nms-spoilers

[junior quest]

yep

i like polo tho

he cool

[wind oak]

but uk wot its fair enougj

oui ouo

but nah no shot these midgets managed to enslave my korvax's

[junior quest]

well think about it

who wins? a peaceful society of robots with limited weapons? or a galactic empire of tiny lizard people with warships?

doesn't really matter how small they are if they outgun you

[wind oak]

fair

[junior quest]

anyways back to gen chat

[wind oak]

oui oui

[dense quartz]

So I posted a theory like an hour ago how outposts remain visually broken cause they might be working on an overhaul and...

Fixed a rare issue that could cause walls to be missing from some planetary buildings in Gek-dominated systems.
😅

[gray leaf]

damn how rare. i never hit the lotto :/

[dense quartz]

I got it almost all the time lol

[real sapphire]

Hey just asking, planets with floating islands comes only as scotched weather or it can be any other?

[broken latch]

whats with them

they seem good

highly intelligent

also seem to be recodeable

[green pasture]

boss fight music

[mighty rampart]

I thought they only spawn in lush planets?

[real sapphire]

yea they spawn on lush worlds, but the one i found have the weather of scotched

Night temp of 63 °C, day temp of 77 °C

[mighty rampart]

Doesnt seem right

Pics?

[real sapphire]

hang on, i'll be playing nms shortly

[mighty rampart]

Cuz we did have floating islands before too but it was more of a generation quirk rather than actual structures like the one now added

[real sapphire]

yea, well only those with something like waterfall can be landed on

@mighty rampart

[mighty rampart]

Wow first time seeing a scorched lush planet

Feels like a bug

[real sapphire]

i may need to find another floating island world to confirm

[vital lava]

Wait so

The expedition guy turned himself into a bug?

[analog breach]

Kinda.

[glass flare]

the Viridescent islands planet I found last night also had extreme heat storms, fwiw

[dense quartz]

What do you mean, Sean?

[glass flare]

where is that from?

[gray leaf]

It means the total could be about 60 million bugs

[icy citrus]

Thinks it's set to 250m right now

From bomber boi

[gray leaf]

oh that's 13% of level 1

yikes

so level one 50 mil. crazy

@icy citrus are you doing your part?

[icy citrus]

I'm not

Lol

[sour fossil]

In game shows 29% for me

[gray leaf]

Everyone fights, no one quits. You don't do your job, i'll shoot you myself

[sour fossil]

Keep in mind HG can tweak the values at any time

[icy citrus]

Aye, we will finish all the tiers regardless

[sour fossil]

If the servers don't die

But nah that would.never happen, right

Everyone enjoys having their progress tied to an endpoint outside of their control

[glass flare]

maybe Mac will even get water and clouds before all the bugs are dead 🫠

[gray leaf]

you don't finish it, HG will just unlock it for everyone anyways.
have some fun grouchy

[sour fossil]

I am, visiting the new planets and killing bugs is fun

[gray leaf]

the only good bug is a dead bug

[sour fossil]

Having arbitrary obstacles that bring nothing of value to gameplay but can cause issues impacting whole.playerbase is not

Ayooo what

@outer cobalt so you're the HG spy here

😄

[outer cobalt]

Of course ... last minute spy!

[sour fossil]

...

Really

That was the encrypted milestone? What a let down

[dense quartz]

Fixed an issue that prevented the Comms Station download limits from working correctly during Expeditions.

The wording is a bit confusing but... could it be? They're doing something with the com balls?

[icy citrus]

They did for the last one - far less Comm balls

[vital lava]

Can you use the boundary failures to get logs from telamon

[celest pier]

so the ending of this expedition, ||Did the deserter just become part of a vile brood? (implying vile broods are just people)||

[naive cliff]

probably the same deal with starship troopers i think thats the movie where the bug gets the memories of the eaten\

[celest pier]

starship troopers?

[naive cliff]

yeah its basically what half of helldivers 2 seems to be based off of, bug killing and the whole "im doing my part" line is from that movie too

[celest pier]

oh lit

[empty mesa]

||i have atlas path space anamoly and ghosts in the machine. if i do either one of these first does it lock me out of anything else?||

[junior quest]

I don't think that doing any one quest in this game can lock you out of doing another. I would double check because there's a CHANCE i could be wrong, though in this case I'm relatively confident

[junior quest]

yeah I believe so. Didn't we get a creature egg that contains ||their remnants? or like what they turned into when they were assimilated?||

[celest pier]

I think so…?

[cloud jolt]

@celest pier

No gifs in this channel please

[wheat spoke]

Talked to a korvax, he was scared at me and I told him I come in peace then he got even more scared. It seemed to turn into an entirely diffrent korvax after that. And my standing decreased Did I kill him? 😅

[gray leaf]

probably something lost in translation :p

[unreal quartz]

I just finished the main questline and i just have to get to the center of the galaxy

1. The universe did not end in 16 minutes
2. The galactic core is way to far even for warping so how am i meant to get there?

[gray leaf]

start heading there.
You only need to warp 16 times.
And 16 minutes for the atlas, could mean zillions of years in the players perspective

beware of tech damage if you do decide to reset

[unreal quartz]

I see

[zealous spear]

My assumption is that the bug killing got to him and the vile brood made him weird so he did assimilate like you said. One of the things we read is that the jelly was taking over his bones or smthn. So I think he literally just turned into a bug

[dense quartz]

And of course, because NMS loves being weird, we just adopt him as a pet lol

[mental socket]

I have a perfect solution for comms balls.

• make the model smaller and non-intrusive
• remove the message pop on whole screen when going near it
• only display message if interacted with

problem solved

also the marker for it could be smaller too

Fromsoft games like Elden Ring and Sky from thatgamecompany execute player messages perfectly. They're non-intrusive and don't have a physical collider in the world so they can't even block anything.

the comm ball system was fine at the time of it's initial debut since players back then were less connected and it required a significant effort to coordinate multiple players to same location

[dense quartz]

Yeah com balls made sense back in 2017 but now they just feel very outdated.

[mental socket]

Yeah. The system is outdated and not balanced at all around the present day game

[icy citrus]

Might see something in that direction, Part 1 remember?

[dense quartz]

I'm just expecting/hoping for purple systems and more Autophage story for Part 2. 😄

[icy citrus]

I think it will also be a lot of things similar to part 1, bringing buildings and other POIs in line with the water and stations and clouds

[dense quartz]

I sure hope so.

If they add new biomes, I think it'll be exclusive for new purple systems. I don't think they'd change everything so drastically in the very next update again.
Even though I wouldn't be against it.

[icy citrus]

I'd guess it would be similar to Origins in that respect, some systems with less than 6 could get them, purples weighted higher for new ones

[dense quartz]

Oh I'm thinking it'll be brand new systems rather than existing ones becoming purple.
Simply because I'm hoping purple ones could add the end-game content and progression. Like maybe we only get the blueprints for a purple warp drive during the Autophage quest or something.

Also, I think it'd cause complications if existing systems become purple while some players are in them.

[icy citrus]

Oh the systems themselves I think will be new - or at least new to us as they could utilize shadow systems for that. I meant the new biomes could potentially be added to systems that have less than 6 planets, but that purple systems would have a higher weight to have the new biomes

[dense quartz]

Ah gotcha.

[dense quartz]

This just hit me... you know how a very common criticism is how players "don't know what they're supposed to do" or how the game doesn't tell them anything?

Outer Wilds had the same criticism during beta testing and it's also a game that just throws you into a world where you can go anywhere and explore however you like, yet testers kept hating the feeling of not doing something right.

So they solved it by an NPC asking you what you'll do when you go exploring, and you have a list of answers. This literally does nothing mechanically but it forces the player to set a goal for themselves and have their minds up before they even leave the planet, and that criticism disappeared.

I wonder if new players would not say the same thing about NMS if at the very start our character asked himself what he wants to do and just have a list of random choices.

[icy citrus]

Clever

[gloomy isle]

Iirc most regions don't actually have their maximum number of stars

So adding new systems should actually be pretty doable

What seems cool is that the purple systems seem to exist outside the main progression of yellow - > red and so on

The ingredients are from dissonant worlds so they're their own thing, not another tier in the main track you unlock them in

[icy citrus]

Datamine says it takes Iridium and Atlantideum and mirrors

Ty autocorrect

Indium*

[gloomy isle]

Yeah that's it

Iridium is from tritium and silica dust right?

[icy citrus]

Was mean to be Indium but I mistyped and autocorrect used iridium

[gloomy isle]

Aaaah okay then

[icy citrus]

So the purple drive is in the hierarchy

[gloomy isle]

Still interesting that it needs corrupted stuff tbf

[icy citrus]

Ya, I think it is for sure Void Momma/Abyss

[gloomy isle]

My main theory is that void momma is starting to take control of the sim more and more

So the galaxy is beginning to be "overwritten" with her simulation

[icy citrus]

I'm excited to see what the future brings for NMS

[gloomy isle]

Honestly worlds is kinda promising to be a pretty high point for the game imo

We've got a lot of amazing colours etc back which the OG crowd missed greatly

It feels like a perfect mix of the realistic style since next, and the more stylised look before that

[icy citrus]

It's been blowing me away - and it seems like they are going to take a pass at everything, otherwise you would end up with a very strange look

[gloomy isle]

A redo of the POIs is something I'm really hoping for now, and it seems like it might happen at some point

I'm kinda in two minds about it. For me it depends why the void mother would want a simulation and how it factors into the plan

[icy citrus]

Aye

[gloomy isle]

The idea I've thought of is if you dove deeper and deeper into more layers of simulation you'd be able to effectively extend reality ad infinitun within that 16 minute space

Since time in the layer above seems to be slower

If that's the Abyss, it's one and the same with the void mother

Another avenue they could go is what they did with Korvax Prime/ the void mother

Her will to exist was so strong that she was able to somehow survive death

[icy citrus]

Emily

Not likely, but I can hope shhhh

[gloomy isle]

Emily becoming a thing in the lore would be awesome

I wish they'd explain exactly where WT fits in now

I always assumed it was the Atlas' universe but ig it doesn't have to be

[runic parcel]

What does POI stand for?

[icy citrus]

Point of Interest

Any of the buildings basically

[glass flare]

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd really like for them to just use one of the other galaxies for the purple systems. It seems such a waste to me to have 254 other galaxies that are just repeats of the same algorithms and biomes of Euclid

[gloomy isle]

A purple galaxy would be super cool

I really hope those unused ocean planets from origins get used soon

Landing on water seems like it could be a hint ngl

[runic parcel]

255 others if you count Odyalutai (And thus ylmelverew or whatever it was, etc.)

[glass flare]

I may be forgetting my lore, but wasn't Telamon originally the Dreamer in Waking Titan whose mind got trapped in the simulation? If so, it makes sense that they know they're in a simulation

[runic parcel]

Something in the files or those planets where there was no land to land on (though now of course you can just land on water)?

[glass flare]

yeah them adding water landings in Part 1 points pretty heavily to them intending to use the deep water biomes dataminded in Part 2

[runic parcel]

idk how people even got on the surface of those beforeso if there was no land

[gloomy isle]

There's seemingly an unused biome in the files with a much higher water level

[runic parcel]

Oh, interesting

[gloomy isle]

Hopefully the nautilon will get some love

[runic parcel]

when do we get the data smelting

[glass flare]

It will go even slower and you will like it

[runic parcel]

What's that?

[gloomy isle]

I'd love a base so deep underwater that the only way to physically reach it is the nautilon

[drowsy dune]

I think it’s safe to say that worlds part two will be around September 4th or 11th given how both major updates this year have been released the day of or after the expedition ended, and the in game patch notes saying “more to come THIS SUMMER”

[icy citrus]

Logical

[dense quartz]

I'd be very surprised of the purple drive was something we'd just unlock from the anomaly and be able to build it early on. Instead of having to get the blueprints from the Autophage or something.

That's really the only thing I'm hoping for, end-game progression lol.

[pliant aurora]

Yup

[runic mesa]

Same, I'm hoping for a follow up to Those Who Returned. Post Artemis path needs more content.

[glass flare]

I'm sure there will be some story elements leading to the purple drive. But what I really want out of "endgame" is endgame gameplay systems and content that's challenging for endgame players. Hopefully the purple systems will provide something along those lines in addition to the new biomes

Also idly fantasizing about them adding new terrain features from LNF into the new worlds. LNF has actual rivers, I'd love to see those brought over to NMS

[mental socket]

@grizzled apex The kills for universal research only register in expedition mode, right?

Won't be worth the trouble participating in community effort anymore if that's the case. Already completed the exp on main save and can't return to it

[astral vapor]

anyone know when expedition ends btw

[analog breach]

2.09.

[zenith perch]

River like formations have been found in nms already

My biggest concern is things feeling forced or static and not natural

The trailer planet for worlds was a great display of what could be

[glass flare]

NMS terrain algorithms on rare occasions produce something that looks vaguely river-like, but they aren't intentionally created by the code. LNF has rivers by design. As you can see in this photo, it has for instance the kind of smaller rocks you'd expect in a river, and in another shot you can see what looks like a river flowing into or out of a lake. Now I don't know if there will actually be flowing water which you would expect from a river, but the Steam page mentions traveling by boat on rivers. So in any case, hopefully these types of river features will make it onto purple worlds... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183233144455962694/1263622635078549624/image.png?ex=66a61c89&is=66a4cb09&hm=63d0dbf4cbeeb6888781abd17c1cd0d491f4f5f15c00e217513c366377deb83b&

So I've been thinking about the completely absent new water and clouds systems on the Mac version of Worlds. I remembered it was datamined in the Worlds files that graphic settings for different iPhone and iPad models were added.

So my hunch is, since a lot of Mac and iPhone code can be shared, HG is currently working on implementing the water and clouds system rewrites in conjunction with an iPhone/iPad version of the game, and is holding back from releasing them until the port is done. And maybe they'll release that alongside the iPhone port in Part 2. Though I would hate for Mac users to have to wait over a month to get Part 1 features.

[gloomy isle]

I guess they'd be able to achieve rivers with specific grooves in the terrain and the correct water level

Could even have a river sub biome (like how mountains have one) that spawns rocks, has a pebble texture etc

[glass flare]

yeah I would think code-generated rivers would require the engine to support localized water levels, especially if they can flow downhill. one reason LNF might be able to get away with that is if they don't allow players to dig into the ground

[gloomy isle]

I was thinking they'd just have flat rivers ngl

Localised water levels aren't out of the question I guess though

I do get the impression from the screenshot that it's flat ngl

[glass flare]

Well even flat rivers... one river may be in a hilly region, and another river could be in a valley. so the engine would need localized water levels, as opposed to the single global water level that NMS currently has

[glass flare]

One thing I noticed looking at the LNF trailer again is that in comparison to NMS's new water, LNF water seems to get murky with deeper water, and is clear near the shoreline. From what I've seen of NMS water so far it's always clear to the bottom. I wonder if that's something they may add with the deeper water biome, if it shows up in Part 2

[gray leaf]

i can't draw much conclusions yet.
We don't know how much was staged or rendered differently for the making of the trailer

[glass flare]

Of course no one knows what LNF actually looks like, just speculating a bit. We know at least that the water system came from LNF tech

[gray leaf]

Could very well. spending a year designing water, i'd assume it wouldn't be just for NMS

[solar prairie]

I hope Hello Games adds some more of LNFs foliage cover especially on the ground with flowers and different types of grass to NMS

It will really make the planets feel more alive

[terse bramble]

So im' very happy to have staff at my base, I think this is cool. But man, all my staff seem kinda insane. My farmer just grabbed me and told me not to trust my overseer and they're not a real gek. My poor scientist keeps wiping his memory banks and re-setting and acting very strange, my vehicle guy mind-wiped himself after learning about his dead family. Everyone is so intense but also randomly accuse others of being dangerous. What is the actual story/lore behind all this drama? Is my overseer actually evil?

[gloomy isle]

Nms water does get murkier with depth but not as much

[glass flare]

I don't think they ever followed that narrative thread any further. But maybe the overseer is working with Void Mother 🤔

[hollow osprey]

Which quest line is void mother from?

[junior quest]

one of the autophage ones, i believe

also i have a question, what's the lore reason that large settlements can't exist again? something to do with sentinels and/or corrupted sentinels getting angry about it?

[tawdry quarry]

heard that Sentinels wiped out civilizations and cities so that has something to do with it

[hollow osprey]

Yeah, sentinels attack settlements

[junior quest]

are they stupid? just turn off the pillar! problem solved!

i like the idea of a future expedition or storyline where some civilization has found a way to prosper despite harsh conditions. Like they find some way to hold the sentinels back just enough for a semi-major settlement to rise up

[hollow osprey]

I thought cities in space would be a good loophole

[glass flare]

Been a minute since I read the lore but basically the three races used to have big, advanced civilizations on their home planets. For reasons they got into a war with the Sentinels. Sentinels decided to obliterate their home planets. So now they're space cops always wary of any of the races trying to build up larger settlements -- they don't want the races trying to rebel again

[tawdry quarry]

im surprised they let the Vykeen live

[viral geyser]

I want to believe u so bad

[tawdry quarry]

sounds way too out there

[viral geyser]

i mean alot of the stuff described is backed up by the data mining, but he could have just read it

[tawdry quarry]

well that yeah, a lot of people support that idea but the new aggressive race and this being the final rounds of updates isnt

[ebon spoke]

"Last major update for no mans sky" I doubt Hello Games would make such a definitive statement

Few people misinterpreted one of the emoji tweets for Omega and assumed that there were like four updates left, looks like someone is still going off that

[lilac star]

Major as in summer update sized, there will still be small additions and expiditions to run. They want to move everyone over to LNF for the last months of development and polish. LNF is also fully able to be play tested. Also, NMS ios version in septemeber.

[ebon spoke]

btw, you shouldn't link the same accounts between your burner discord and main lol

[lilac star]

let a man dream

what if it turned out all to be tru tho

[ebon spoke]

To be fair it lines up enough with the datamines that it probably wont be too far off in the end

[drowsy dune]

Some of this could be true, but I’d say that sep 4th or 11th is basically guaranteed to be the release date

[junior quest]

well the gek destroyed korvax prime, no?

but other than that, yeah, that makes sense

[gloomy isle]

Tbh Cat! is just extrapolating the datamines

Like it's mostly feasible stuff for sure but still

[glass flare]

Yeah actually looking at the wiki I was wrong. Only Korvax Prime was destroyed and it was destroyed by the Gek. The Vy'keen and the Sentinels were in a huge war. They pushed back the Sentinels for a while but sustained heavy losses. But I guess their homeworld is still intact somewhere.

As for the Sentinels, they refuse to let civilizations flourish because they're afraid something like Korvax Prime's destruction would happen again. So I was misremembering several things.

[gloomy isle]

Yeah they constantly hear its destruction echoing through time

[glass flare]

I mean this stuff sounds pretty cool, but probably way too ambitious for one update. I also don't feel like NMS are about to EoL the game. Why would they do that if they're going to announce an iPhone/iPad port soon, and introduce cloud saves? They haven't given any indication they're ready to hang up their spacesuits yet.

It's hard not to feel excited about what could be in Part 2 though, I'm trying not to set myself up for disappointment too much, but after this update and the datamining the possibilities seem pretty big

[pliant aurora]

reworked caves was actually data mined too?

[drowsy dune]

One think I think EVERYONE should know is that even if all the data mined assets are coming, it might not all be in the same update. Take the orbital space stations being leaked 4 updates before, or the new freighter parts including the unused elevator part (Rest in peace beloved unused elevator part 😢) so even if everything here is coming it could be in separate updates or completely changed by release

[drowsy dune]

No sadly

[glass flare]

why'd you have to go and remind me that we could have had an elevator 😢

[icy citrus]

Lmao

Also by the way, I'm going to mute you if that isn't 100% accurate. We shall see, eh?

[analog breach]

Pact oporutnity

[icy citrus]

Oh they made the pact when they posted that

I hate misinformation and leaks without any sources, very annoying.

@lilac star Provide sources for your "leaks" or qualify your statements as guesses.

[analog breach]

Would be cool to have worlds part 2 just after worlds pt 1 but yeah. for now all are just guesses and speculations

[naive quarry]

Yh just gonna put this speculation here but who thinks worlds part 2 might expand on the lore of the void mother or autophage, judging that according to some sources the crafting recipe for the new warp drive uses atlantid materials

Hold on I'll post a ss now on the media server (since I can't post anything here lol)

[icy citrus]

No don't, I can repost

[icy citrus]

Please note that although the text in the image says confirmed stuff, nothing datamined is ever confirmed until we actually get it. There are numerous examples of datamined items that have never made it into the game. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345378190568587275/1265833837917900913/IMG_7072.jpg?ex=66a6e7a1&is=66a59621&hm=8901f30400bbb9309d0fdae2a22703cb7d3cea44c6db1b93ed2e2115f0e3e2b9&

[naive quarry]

Ah cheers mate

[icy citrus]

One thing to note, those aren't confirmed to be in, just confirmed datamined

Many datamined items have never made it into the game

[naive quarry]

Ah

Does seem interesting to think abt

You'll never know really, maybe we might end up getting to smh visit the world of glass in a future update

[icy citrus]

Would be excellent!

Rescue OG Artemis while we are there

No half recovered data, the real deal

[naive quarry]

That would be amazing

I feel so sorry for artemis as well

[dense shale]

I wanna find out more about the atlas, how it works, thinks speaks, manifests worlds, and even a sneak peak of what outside the sim looks like

[runic mesa]

I'm going to stubbornly hold out hope they'll let us resurrect Artemis until the game support officially ends.

[icy citrus]

Same

[grizzled apex]

Sorry for taking that long! I had to test this out by checking contributions before/after killing bugs in a normal save (made harder by something HG's changed internally to hinder some of our net-request shenanigans lol), but it looks like contributions DO NOT go up if you kill bugs outside of the expedition, like you said.

[surreal terrace]

Hear me out, ||they let us put Arti into an Autophage shell||

[gloomy isle]

For a minute I thought you meant Ahti from the remedyverse

Come to think of it he'd kinda fit in well if he had a space suit lol

[autumn mist]

should i do the atlas path first or the other one?

[pearl yarrow]

Continuing from the main channel. My guess is that the new datamined purple systems in Worlds Part II will feature new generation that isn't otherwise possible without an universe reset, as a way for Hello Games to test the generation in Light No Fire

I hope for geographically differing regions on planets. Mountainous areas, great plains, and so forth. Maybe even deeper oceans

[pliant aurora]

Same I really hope land scapes have improved drastically

[lost jolt]

is it weird that i would be more hyped about the LODs for the ground being more accurate on land and from space?

so that its not wavy like water as you fly around

to some degree i feel like they have to address it if they were to add worlds that are entirely water; one of the things that seems to shift a lot as land loads in is height

[ebon spoke]

Found some more information about how purple systems will generate in the files just now. So normally, biome variants have weight values to determine how common they are compared to other variants, so for example the normal lush biome is weighted to be more common than the glowing mushroom lush

however, with Worlds Part I, Hello Games have added a weight override that will apply in purple systems to make certain biomes more common there

This example is the new floating islands biome, you can see that its way more likely in purple systems than normal

Another thing worth pointing out, they added a 'new' lush variant slot that just points to the standard lush variant. The slot is called "worlds"

I'm pretty sure they did that so they can just change the path in it to point to the Ruins biome once its ready. Adding slots will cause existing planets to get rerolled, so it makes sense that they added it in part one

assuming they will be applying the ruins biome to the "Worlds" slot, that would mean a portion of planets in the game that are currently using the standard lush variant are primed to turn into ruins planets with the release of part 2

Looks like most of the other biome types are also set up to seamlessly gain one new variant each as well. (The same ones that got new variants in part I)

[ebon spoke]

Theres also new settings to make certain types of objects/features more or less common on certain biome variants, though aren't currently used. This gives them the ability to adjust the likelyhood of rare resource spawns, farmable plants, cooking plants, whether an extreme sentinel planet is dissonant or not, etc all by biome variant. It is worth pointing out that the only reason all these features have the new settings is because they all use the same system. It's extremely unlikely that most of those will actually use them

[steady osprey]

if you put artemis in the simulation is there anything about artemis later on in the long run?

or gameplay wise is there just no difference between the simulation and killing artemis

except that one transmission thing when artemis talks to you once

[jolly vault]

I put Artemis in the simulation and got the message after the purge. It gives you two options. To lie and to tell the truth. I don't remember if I lied or not but the only thing that happens is that what Artemis says after you lie or tell the truth is different depending on which you choose.

[coral folio]

Someone will mod it if they don't

[icy citrus]

Doubtful

[gloomy isle]

It would be absolutely amazing if HG ever decided to release an official mod toolkit

The mods people make now are already great so imagine what could come out of that

[steady osprey]

accidentally just refused the atlas by right clicking

:/

guess im not going to esseintam

[icy citrus]

One of the featured bases is there iirc

Just a matter of ODS actually being up so you can go to it

[coral folio]

Always refuse the crimson lie! Ain't no devil ball gon trick me

[uncut harness]

You can still jump galaxies by going to the galaxy centre

[green pasture]

The atlas seems alright… imma get the adelanteum a bit closer

[round ether]

Do I pick to save atremis or kill her

If so does it change anything

[analog breach]

Only dialouge changes. Chose what your guts tell u.

[round ether]

I killed her ass

She ain’t giving me no cool gun

[zenith perch]

Going back to this, I have a feeling they're gonna annoy people if they ever try any reset style stuff

Really wish they'd just add base packaging as a feature

[zenith perch]

I need y'all to ping me like 400 times if a single settlement related change is ever datamined.

[icy citrus]

Ok 🙂

[glass flare]

Well I was speaking about this in terms of the purple worlds, where they would have free reign to do new things

As for base packaging, it's already in the game as a tool for pre-NEXT legacy bases to be moved to a new location/planet. It's perplexing to me that they've never turned it into a general purpose feature. It would avoid some of the negativity from even biome resets

Maybe they actually forgot they built it, I know I've done that with big code projects I've worked on

[ebon spoke]

I could definitely see a lot of issues with packaging current bases and moving them elsewhere

If you built a base ontop of a mountain and have parts of it down at the bottom, then you move it to flatter terrain you would easily end up with parts far below the planet's 'bedrock' layer

Pre-NEXT bases work relatively fine because they were limited to being built in a small, flat area

[glass flare]

There would have to be limitations. Building a base that conforms to specific terrain would probably not be salvageable

[drowsy dune]

Just let us do it anyways and deal with the consequences I say

[lofty fable]

yo that's cool

[quasi coral]

hi

[lofty fable]

@ebon spoke Based on all you've seen lately what new improvements do you think worlds part 2 could bring to planets?

I honestly really wish for better visuals of planets when viewed from space

[drowsy dune]

At the very least show the planets “filter” from space

[lofty fable]

how do you mean

also watching the LNF trailer, the terrain generation and the amount of things being rendered at the same time is simply crazy, i hope they bring even more of that to NMS

[ebon spoke]

I've only really seen things that are 'additions' rather than 'changes'. If they were planning to change how planets render from space for example, I don't think we'd have many hints in the files right now. But, so far it looks like there will be another wave of new biome variants, about the same size as in Part I; new underwater biome variants; more new creatures (likely tied to new biomes); likely some sort of change to underwater gameplay; and purple stars with different generation rules (probably with more 'endgame' content than the current star colours)

[lofty fable]

nicee

i think we'll see new underwater building parts as well. because why wouldn't there be to be honest

that is the one time to add new water parts since both updates are technically also a water overhaul update combined

[glass flare]

maybe so, but there weren't really hints that I know of about new water and clouds systems prior to 5.0's release. sometimes they can surprise us

[junior quest]

wait so based on the lore

could we consider no mans sky to be a post apoctalyptic game?

[glass flare]

technically I guess the apocalypse in "reality" is in progress of happening during the events of the game

[modern notch]

Hey guys, does anyone know what the "Bug Hunter Trophy Base Parts" reward is?

[quick wigeon]

Can anyone explain why iterations are unable to leave the anomaly?

[gray leaf]

they fear being hunted down

[glass flare]

don't we all

I wasn't really active with weekend mission stuff when that whole story with one of the NPCs happened... is that character still a Void Mother imposter?

[uncut harness]

The real Ariadne is dead iirc, so yeah

[glass flare]

Oh? I didn't remember there was lore about Ariadne actually dying, I thought no one knew what happened to the real one

[uncut harness]

It‘s not outright confirmed but I believe the lore implies it, since the Void Mother is working together with Null.

Null has already consumed many Traveller souls, making him the most “complete” of all the Travelers. This makes Null the perfect candidate to recreate the Creator, which is what I believe might be a goal in order to somehow extend the Atlas lifetime.

The Void Mother is likely feeding Traveler souls to Null, which is supported by Laylaps saying that the Telamons are bringing the Travelers to the Void Mother in the Sentinel Pillar logs, a plan gets mentioned by Laylaps about saving everything with Null being in the centre of it

[glass flare]

Hmm. Well VM's primary goal is escaping the simulation, so perhaps she thinks the Creator would be able to tell her how to accomplish that

[timid mist]

there's no shower on that ship so they're prob just way too stinky

[icy citrus]

New canon

[lofty prism]

hg should really make an update where they expand or make a new story line after learning about the atlas dying, a giant reset button is kinda boring ngl and feels like an incomplete story

[icy citrus]

Uh

They have

[lofty prism]

what is it

[icy citrus]

The Autophages

And Void Mother

[lofty prism]

how do u access it

[icy citrus]

Seems like we will be getting more of that as well, based on the datamines

[icy citrus]

!faq-echoes

[cloud jolt]

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❔ **Stuck starting the Echoes content?**

Make sure the steps below are completed.

⚠️ Use #bot-spam for FAQ commands below & check #nms-questions for the latest details about the update.

1. Finish the Artemis Path (main story). Run !Faq-ArtemisPath in #bot-spam.
2. Lift the Seal from a Harmonic Camp. Run !Faq-Interceptor in #bot-spam.
3. Warp to any system -- if that triggers a freighter battle, you must warp again.

❗ This information has been verified as of <t:1694212090:D> (after Update 4.44) & is subject to change.

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required. A Settlement used to be needed -- except on Switch, where you'd have to trigger it by warping 25 times.

📚 Contributors: Atlas Emissaries & friendlyfirepl

[lofty prism]

oh

i think ive done all of that

[icy citrus]

I want more as well

Hoping Worlds does that, but I suspect even if it doesn't there will more additions in the future

[lofty prism]

yea i hope so the story was really fun

[lofty prism]

do i needa do the 16 warps?

[icy citrus]

Yeah agreed, my only criticism of the story was the pacing... But sandbox games can't really solve this as we can just go do whatever

[icy citrus]

You would as part of the Artemis Path

[lofty prism]

oh thats what i havent done yet

what is a good idea to look while warping to other systems

so i dont waste my warps

[icy citrus]

I'm not quite following the question, look for what?

[lofty prism]

like i dont wanna just warp to a boring system

whats something cool to look for

[icy citrus]

Oh I see. Depends what you like seeing - with the new biome assets many types have a new feel. I've been visiting yellows because they have a nice spawn rate for all the main types - frozen, lush hot etc

[lofty prism]

oh kk

thanks very much

[zenith perch]

That's the entire reason I want it

[coarse heron]

Is there a pinned post for Worlds Part 2 leaks/rumors?

[icy citrus]

Nope, but that's a fine idea

[analog breach]

Idk if pining a rumor is good idea. Imo datamined stuff would have more sense

[icy citrus]

It is datamined stuff

With a disclaimer about relying on datamines for sure coming

[opal mulch]

some of the stuff in that screenshot is stuff you can view yourself; there's a mod that enables viewing the biomes it mentions and the iron giant wreck model was loaded ingame with a screenshot in here somewhere

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3098/

i guess you need familiar to embed in here too

[icy citrus]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3098/

[opal mulch]

i was gonna post the screenshot too. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/426776769014661131/1267052852010811474/20240718100801_1.png?ex=66aa056c&is=66a8b3ec&hm=d4166ddb75ae36c360518c1579989fd7bec92c99f3a7c0b4fc564003bb57a771&

thought it was cool

[icy citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/426776769014661131/1267052852010811474/20240718100801_1.png?ex=66aa056c&is=66a8b3ec&hm=d4166ddb75ae36c360518c1579989fd7bec92c99f3a7c0b4fc564003bb57a771&

[opal mulch]

thanks

[icy citrus]

Np

[icy citrus]

Wild

I wanna pilot it

[opal mulch]

it raises so many questions. there's a 50/50 shot of it actually being used of course, but wow

i wonder if it'd be in the ruins biome actually? my first thought was underwater but i'm not sure if that'd make as much sense

[icy citrus]

Ruins seems likely

Statue to some forgotten Traveller

Telamon even maybe

[glass flare]

If the ruins biome is actually used in Part 2, I hope it comes with some new structures we can actually explore and interact with

[vocal prism]

All these leaked images.. wonder how soon the update will actually come out

[analog breach]

More ruins variety would be nice.

[gloomy isle]

Seems like there'll be an entire ruin biome

[lofty fable]

lame

hope it's not just another thing you can find and do nothing with lol

[icy citrus]

[lofty fable]

also you guys talking about a "ruin biom" lol could you imagine seeing several of these? a "ruin biom" is literally a ridiculous idea

[icy citrus]

We get it

You want to think that a game that has 700 million in backing and hasn't released fully is somehow better than NMS already. And think it will be some sort of victory if it actually manages it on a budget that is exponentially greater.

It's cool

[lofty fable]

What is blud yapping about

[icy citrus]

But you will use the channels civilly and stop trying to start drama, or I will mute you @lofty fable

[lofty fable]

i've been using the channels civilly you are the one getting mad out of nowhere and also ignoring your own server rules?

[icy citrus]

I've been civil in all my language.

You have just been trying to stir up things. This channel is for spoilers. Let's move along to those.

[lofty fable]

"We get it"

starts yapping about another game i mentioned yesterday that has no relevancy to what I said

i haven't at all bro you've just completely misunderstood

[icy citrus]

See? Lol

Talk about spoilers

[lofty fable]

okay dude

the hypocrisy is insane

[gloomy isle]

I wouldn't go as far as calling it a game ngl

[icy citrus]

Still can't. Talk about spoilers

[gray leaf]

im excited for new System and stellar colour

it's gonna open up and expand a bit more

[icy citrus]

I want the water biomes so bad

[gray leaf]

as long as it actually expands the undeerwater gameplay.. deeper, more stuff to explore, more creatures, perhaps base items

it's what most people want, to have a mini subnautica in NMS

[gloomy isle]

Deeper water would be an amazing addition

The new systems are a perfect place to do it too

[gray leaf]

yea but even just increasing the depth a few hundred units wont really make ppl happy lol
there needs to be more gameplay

[lofty fable]

water bioms including deeper waters
new water parts
better visuals of planets and accuracy of planet terrain when viewed from space
new tools added to the building system, for example a vertical & horizontal "scrolling" tool for precise placement
from the top down view build camera mode

some shit i want

[icy citrus]

I'd take all that

I do hope we get more lore dealing with all this though

Void Stations or something for the purples

[lofty fable]

Also a thing nobody ever mentions that actually adds quite a bit of variety to planets are the terrain textures, not the terrain generation. That is something they could easily add more to without fucking up everyones bases

[glass flare]

I'm excited for completely new planets. I just hope there's also some new endgame gameplay that purple systems might unlock

[icy citrus]

They actually did take a pass at some with worlds, but not all of them

[lofty fable]

nice

[icy citrus]

Rather than the smooth hills

[lofty fable]

oh that's great

yeah i've noticed that too actually

[gray leaf]

disclaimer: terrain tesselation needs to be on

[icy citrus]

Lol

[gray leaf]

As they keep pushing more visual fidelity, seems obvious some older machines wont be seeing much at low settings, and some of the older gens may have trouble seeing all new features

I wonder how / when there will be a limit where it can't be supported anymore, or if they'll be able to just keep pushing new enhancements only for newer hardware.

like branching out versions

[lofty fable]

I don't see anytning wrong with caves at all, I think they are quite good actually but it would be cool if they got another update.

Mostly there is no point venturing into caves as well, but what if you brought some of the mining, like paraffinium or gold or whatever to exclusively be in caves.

[gray leaf]

long time ago i feel caves used to go much deeper, and be a bit of a maze.
I remember getting often lost in old NMS

You would still find relics super deep into caves

[lofty fable]

I'm a huge advocator of QoL updates for this game. Updates solely focused on performance optimization and QoL features and bug fixes.

I think it needs that to set it straight for the future

[gray leaf]

things that are important but don't generate hype yup

[lofty fable]

yep

like sure they improve on all those aspects with every update they release but it sure would be nice with an update where ALL of their effort went into those

maybe by the end of NMS when they stop releasing new content it could get this, like a polishing phase to really give NMS stability before they stop but I think even in 5 years time NMS will receive updates.

Since HG is a private company there isn't as much influence to pump and dump new games all the time and cut support for older ones.

nms is obviously precious to them

also them branching out nms to every platform there is, is a pretty good sign that nms is faaaar from being done

[opal mulch]

the ruins biome can already be seen in the linked nexusmods page, it's not just those statues everywhere

also I think they'll hit a wall where they have to emphasize performance improvements eventually; even as of last year the base PS4 could barely run nms. it'll either need major optimizations or have to be dropped completely eventually

not sure if worlds made that better or worse

moving a bunch of stuff to GPU was an underrated improvement though

[glass flare]

they did a lot of optimization work for Worlds, rewrote the voxel code. apparently PS4 runs much better than it used to, even with the new stuff

[opal mulch]

makes sense, pretty sure the ps4's CPU was almost just there for show, so shifting that burden probably would help it

[uncut harness]

If I can find my Xbox one S, I gotta try running the game on it and see how that goes

[grizzled apex]

Reminds me, I gotta upload the ones I made to add the Iron Giant and Manta Rays to normal gameplay lol

[zealous spear]

GUYS I UNLOCKED THE ||SENTINEL ROBOT COMPANION|| IT'S SO CUTE

[zealous spear]

The drone is asking if it shoudl be named laylaps, I don't like that name the best. What happens if I refuse it?

[sour fossil]

I don't think you can refuse it

[zealous spear]

When I get the pristine brain to the Atlas thing, do I have to accept it's path? I refused it but I don't think the quest line is updating

[drifting notch]

I'm at the 16/16 mission, Do I Initiate personality Interface, Or Wipe System?

[icy citrus]

For this one, both options lead to the same outcome with differing dialogue

You won't miss out on anything in so far as game play

[drifting notch]

Thanks, I'll just pick Wipe System

[zenith perch]

I don't get why people are hoping for this massive big endgame thing, NMS isn't really that sorta game

It'll just be blown through in a week

[icy citrus]

End game is wandering and taking screenshots

[zenith perch]

We're in an entire era of qol and improvements though

There's a reason I call it the overhaul era

Like fractal or a little bit before, onwards

[zenith perch]

Am I the only one who's noticed this looks similar to the default player model?

[icy citrus]

No, that's why I theorized Telamon Statue

[lofty fable]

no

Maybe you can call it the overhaul era as of only recently but it's also just them making the game what it should have been from the start. It's no secret that NMS launched way too early.

What I meant with QoL is very different to what we're getting right now, not complaining though lol

[zenith perch]

No?

How can you say no when its literally been the last 5+ updates lmao

[lofty fable]

Because it's also been the theme of updates way before the last 5

so it's not the overhaul era

[zenith perch]

How isn't it?

[lofty fable]

the theme of them overhauling ltierally goes way back to the beginning

[zenith perch]

I've played on and off since day one of NEXT, I think I know what the updates are

[lofty fable]

and the reason why is because the game isn't what they envisioned

[zenith perch]

I call them overhauls because they're overhauling and adding to existing features and not just new unrelated feature additions like companions

[lofty fable]

so you played since an overhaul update. nice

[zenith perch]

You're missing my point

Updates after frontiers are what i consider the overhaul era

Frontiers was a new thing, settlements were not a thing before that update

[lofty fable]

Don't you call that content though

[zenith perch]

Omega overhauled the way expeditions worked, fractal was for VR, worlds was the origins equivalent of visions

Orbital was a massive station overhaul

[lofty fable]

I understand it your point, I just don't agree with it since overhauling hasn't been unique to the latest updates, it goes way back. and also Prisms was more of an overhaul than Frontier. Frontier was a content update.

[zenith perch]

Prisms wasn't nearly as substantial as the origins era onwards of stuff

[lofty fable]

yeah

[zenith perch]

I call it the overhaul era because there's a different focus now on going back and refining what already exists into better things as the focus of updates

[lofty fable]

anyway bro

[lofty fable]

that's true

[zenith perch]

Which includes qol updates

As for the thing about stability, worlds is technically a stability update, they did actual finally noticeable performance improvements on console

Not just the "significant optimizations" in patch notes, stuff I could actually feel.

Worlds part 2 will probably do more of that

The stability I really want a focus on is multiplayer since multiplayer is a massive source of bugs

[lofty fable]

I hope so

And I want them to bring even better rendering

LNF looks crazy compared to NMS

[lofty fable]

Multiplayer in general is so shitty

it's so badly designed, i can give several examples

[patent shale]

everytime i look in this chat lukie is mouthing off

[lofty fable]

every game mode is coupled together in the same universe and can interact with each other, thus making any trading, player economy, any valuables at all and progression as a whole completely pointless and irrelevant
you have to manually upload bases, wheras if it was a proper functioning multiplayer, it would be completely seamless and you'd be able to come across player bases

Bro i just got lots of thoughts in my head

[lofty fable]

im born a yapper

and also yeah multiplayer is just clunky.

can you even build bases together? is that even a feature?

[zenith perch]

Multiplayer is a valid criticism

To be fair manual uploading I'm entirely fine with

[lofty fable]

what do u think of my points Liozio

[zenith perch]

Player economy isn't something I care for personally

If we ever got my second dream update of space station ownership it could be used for RP purposes maybe for stuff like the galactic hub

But NMS aint that sorta game

[lofty fable]

yeah true

but i feel that's the thing with NMS multiplayer as well, it's made for RP'ing

since you have complete control over your experience, you can turn pvp on and off, change anything you desire really

(i hate this so much but at least we have multiplayer)

[zenith perch]

I'm glad pvp has toggles

If it was forced it'd be used for trolling

[lofty fable]

of course it would but it would also add a lawyer of gameplay, being that you'd need to be careful who you give coordinates to or invite to your communities

there is no risk and reward in nms

it's completely absent

[zenith perch]

It's not the sorta game where high risk is required

Difficulty settings exist to give more risk

[lofty fable]

my ideal nms multiplayer would be just like minecraft. any builds are automatically uploaded, pvp is on at all times, griefing is possible (im not saying that there couldnt be a way to prevent it, like a gigantic planetary shield or something), each game mode are only able to see and interact with players on the same mode, players can form in game guilds/communities which come with a variety of settings to give build perms or leadership positions so that you can build together

my ideal is pretty extreme tho ig

[zenith perch]

PVP doesn't really work in nms tbf

[lofty fable]

i got so many crazy ideas bro that'll never happen in a million years.

like imagine being able to claim a system for your guild, and have it on lockdown or something, like locking the hyperlanes to that system, idk. easy grief prevention and cool mechanic for communities.

BUT, if you are not in a guild and you build by yourself then you're open to griefing unless you set up a costly planetary shield

and remember the chances of getting found in NMS are so slim that griefing would rarely even occur, but that's the cool thing, it would be your choice whether to spend a fuckton of materials on a shield or risk getting griefed

[lofty fable]

true

[lofty fable]

these ideas are a very good example of a good multiplayer though, it draws people to participate in multiplayer while also providing risks, rewards and overall more excitement for loners

whereas right now, nms is just a chill multiplayer where nothing at all matters. but maybe the playerbase prefers it that way. That's not to say we couldn't just have that on a different server though, remember I said I want each game mode to only be able to interact and see people on the same mode.

im not gonna yap anymore i gtg

[modest zealot]

We need more suspenseful combat in space

[timid mist]

also enemy AI that doesn't fly directly at you. getting a couple shots in then having to turn around to catch them before their shield recharges, just as they're also already heading straight towards you again to fly directly past you

[modest zealot]

I hate when they do that, it makes it harder and longer

[timid mist]

yeah its like the default combat experience before your weaps are strong enough to bring their shields and hull down quickly. not a very fun loop lol

i think it's just a consequence of everything only being able to move forwards. everspace 1 and 2 have really nice space combat but their movement system is so much different

and their primary gameplay loop is space combat so obv more focus/balancing is required there lol

[pliant aurora]

nms with destiny combat would be my dream game

[honest viper]

So I have reached what feels a fairly final decusion and want to know if there are any game effects for ne or the other
||Upload Artemis to a simulation/destroy the soul jar||

Am leaning to the former if it matters: Simulated joy is still joy.

[gray leaf]

@honest viper It is a roleplay decision.
The outcomes only differ in the mission dialogue after, not in gameplay

[honest viper]

Thanks!

[lofty fable]

fixable by switching out their flight model with something more akin to Elite Dangerous

currently how it works is basically aircrafts in space

pretty awkward experience

[runic parcel]

Yeah, seeing this I imagine that PVP/Griefing & Shield Systems would count as a separate gamemode (maybe a survival default or something, you know, every person for themselves)

[coral folio]

There is a life on the line here!

[gray leaf]

was there ever a life?

[pliant kiln]

There is no life in the atlas

All is just ai

Or well

Al

[opal mulch]

the main thing is that the playerbase generally does prefer it that way, and the game was mainly marketed that way. pvp existing at all is deliberately an afterthought
the game's combat would need a complete overhaul from the ground up for pvp to be even the smallest bit balanced. i think it'd be cool and all too, but it wouldn't be popular

the possibility of getting griefed is fun when you have a shot at fighting back, but there's no contest against getting blasted with a positron ejector from the sky

[fringe scarab]

this is awesome and give me DEAD SPACE wibes!

[karmic lodge]

I would imagine there’s only gonna be 2 parts to worlds

Cause I feel like they’ve already added so much

[scenic cape]

Do you guys know what you get when doing the atlas path?

I mean the ending of the mission

[wanton path]

need some Lifesigns there

imagine if one day it ticks to 1

i'll shit my suit

[fringe scarab]

ueah

scary

but the atmopshere is great here i wish it was a bit darker onløy

[scenic cape]

Nobody?

[fringe scarab]

need some guideance is this close to where i have to change my gear so I dont lose it ?

[scenic cape]

I dont remember sorry :[

[weak bramble]

hey so uhh i was just about to head to the centre of euclid cuz i got to that point in the story mission. But got distracted along the way when i noticed i got a new glyph every time i scanned a black hole... so i went to gather the full set. Once i had 16 i got a mission to head to a portal. Then i basically got put into what i believe is the end story thing and got a whole new galaxy. without ever actually reaching the centre of the first. And just to be safe i went back to euclid and went to the centre but it just put me back on the same planet where the end of the story left me

so im just left a bit confused if that was the intentinal way to do it and if i missed any story

[willow stirrup]

That's the intentional end of the story. Warp 16 times, then you go to the final interface

[weak bramble]

@willow stirrup ahh okay very strange, what was the point of the whole go to the centre of the galaxy thing if i managed to circumvent it entirely

[valid barn]

supermassive black hole?

[weak bramble]

okay so ive watched a bunch of videos and it seems i just got confused and thought i was getting glyphs from black holes but it was just the main story every time i warped lol, bad timing made me confused

still weird tho that didnt actually have to go to the centre tho

[icy citrus]

The idea is to have you start heading that way by warping, but you get interrupted

[weak bramble]

ahh yeah that does make a lot more sense, just caught me off guard cuz i wasnt actually trying to head to the centre at the time but if i were it wouldve seemed more intentional

thanks guys lol

[icy citrus]

The Purge is when you start packing up - before you visit the Atlas

!faq-artemispath

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<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> **Artemis Path Missions**

The main storyline The Artemis Path is composed of these missions:

1. Awakenings
2. Alone Amidst the Stars
3. Ghosts in the Machine (requires progression in Expanding the Base, a secondary quest)
4. A Leap in the Dark
5. The First Traveller
6. Patterns in Time
7. 16 / 16
8. The Purge - 16 warps in any direction. It does not require travelling to the core.
9. New Beginnings - Like the Space Anomaly mission, this will forever remain in your Log tab (even after this quest's completion).

Do not reuse portals found via the storyline to prevent bugs.

❓ For in-depth questions about these missions, ask in #nms-spoilers, or in #nms-questions with spoiler tags -- run !SpoilerTag in #bot-spam for help.

📖 Did you know? The Atlas Path and The Purge mission can be completed in tandem.

📚 Contributor: bkay201

[fringe scarab]

ah ok thanks ;D

[pliant aurora]

Maybe but idk. With how successful this update has been it wouldnt surprise me if they did a part 3 too.

[icy citrus]

Tweeted 3 different world emojis, last tweet before update was the first one surrounded by candles.

I think 3 parts

Pure speculation ofc, at least we know we get one more part for sure 🙂

[sour fossil]

YT content creators be like

Local community leader with ties to HG confirms 3 part update and teases a new emoji

[icy citrus]

Lmao

Some people on Reddit were using our pinned message that said the time frame that would need to elapse for an Xbox and Switch separate announcement of having the update, as when the update would release.

Great sentence, hope you understand it, cause I don't

[fringe scarab]

what do i chose ?

does it matter ? I cant remember that planet lol

[icy citrus]

Afaik it doesn't matter - not sure if you get differing amounts for different discoveries though

[fringe scarab]

ok i see

so its not like the galaxy will be more flourish or anythn

[icy citrus]

No

[fringe scarab]

k 😄

[fringe scarab]

is this where i only use crap stuff so i dont lose it

[icy citrus]

Yep

[fringe scarab]

ok im at the portal now

so io just go thru and game starts over ?

[icy citrus]

You wouldn't lose anything - stuff gets broken but you can repair it. Depending on how much tech you have this could obviously need a lot to repair

[icy citrus]

Not quite, but getting to that point

Got some dialogue to have first

[fringe scarab]

o nice

how far Am i fromthe android race +

[icy citrus]

You'll be able to start that once your mission is New Beginnings

!faq-echoes

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❔ **Stuck starting the Echoes content?**

Make sure the steps below are completed.

⚠️ Use #bot-spam for FAQ commands below & check #nms-questions for the latest details about the update.

1. Finish the Artemis Path (main story). Run !Faq-ArtemisPath in #bot-spam.
2. Lift the Seal from a Harmonic Camp. Run !Faq-Interceptor in #bot-spam.
3. Warp to any system -- if that triggers a freighter battle, you must warp again.

❗ This information has been verified as of <t:1694212090:D> (after Update 4.44) & is subject to change.

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required. A Settlement used to be needed -- except on Switch, where you'd have to trigger it by warping 25 times.

📚 Contributors: Atlas Emissaries & friendlyfirepl

[icy citrus]

And you lift a seal at a camp at least once

[opal mulch]

i'm kinda curious what kind of bugs can occur if you use the portals you find during the artemis path after, like the faq mentions

[glass flare]

I think they are normal planets that get reskinned for those narrative moments? so I'd assume they'd return to acting like usual. but maybe I'm wrong

[heady wyvern]

I've seen somebody get stranded on one of those planets due to "portal interference," even though that otherwise hasn't been a thing for years now.

[gloomy isle]

I'd love to see that feature used more

Imagine being able to access parallel versions of planets and stuff using special portals

[glass flare]

That'd be cool

[fringe scarab]

finally! :;D I can see them ❤️

[fringe scarab]

finally i got it ! bed time now 😄 love this new look

just i wish my staff was black or orange or white

[paper meadow]

Could anyone tell me the relationship between Nal and Hirk the great? The wiki said they're divided but some texts suggested they lived together and their own people? Also if Hirk was the creator of the V'ykeen, who came first Hirk or Nal?

[gray leaf]

im not a full expert on Vy'keen lore tbh.
But Nal and Hirk indeed were together at some point, until the whole visions thing happened, and Hirk managed "trick" everyone into thinking Nal was the one who did not have a real "revelation", thus eventually being labeled as a traitor.
Iirc the Multitool specialist missions give more insight into this, as well as scattered pieces in Vy'keen monoliths

[pliant kiln]

Whos tealemon? The lil sentinel keeps saying that name

[analog breach]

Its your exosuit AI voice

[pliant kiln]

Oh?

Minator?

Theres an ai in my armor thingy?

I missed something T~T

[analog breach]

Units recived*

[pliant kiln]

Oh

My

God

Im stupid

Wait

Why do we even have a exosuit in the first place?

Just bc the atlas wanted it?

[gray leaf]

because without an exosuit you are nothing

[pliant kiln]

Fair

[gray leaf]

you are but an animated exosuit.

this is spoilers channel, but going through the game story will give you a lot of the answers

[pliant kiln]

I kinda got through the story with skips bc i used to hate lore

I regret T^T

[analog breach]

U can always start new save

[pliant kiln]

God i hate going through the intro tho

So slow

Pretty sure lastime i started a new save my ship was on the other side of a planet

[gray leaf]

There is also the option to skip tutorial

the initial phase of being stuck on planet

[pliant kiln]

There is???

[pliant kiln]

Do all geks, korvaxes, and vy'keens have multi-tools?

[pliant kiln]

Can i beat "The Space Anomaly", "New Beginnings", and "Atlas Eternal"? Bc its bothering me seeing them

[gray leaf]

they will always stay in log after beating them.
You can chose i believe it's new beginnings, so that your HUD bottom right does not show anything

(it will still cycle through things like items guide, etc)

[zenith perch]

I can't see elite dangerous style flight working in nms

I'd not complain about a new module that makes the ship weight feel different similar to how that flight assist reduction module exists

[weak bramble]

I think we just need lateral thrusters

[icy citrus]

I think Elite has the best controls for a ship in space, however it wouldn't make any sense in NMS. NMS is far too casual for that system. Lateral thrusters could be nice, and some different "weights" for the ships would be lovely as well. Make them feel far different rather than just turning slower.

[gloomy isle]

Lateral movement would be great since it would stop the need for constantly reversing during dogfights

As it stands though, the more star wars style handling is definitely a good fit for the setting

[icy citrus]

Have there been any datamines pointing to any ship changes? All I've seen so far is planet based

[hollow osprey]

Having to reverse thrust to slow down in space would feel more realistic

[gloomy isle]

Not really from what I've seen

I wonder if the planetary navmesh stuff could be related to creature AI, or if it's for enemies

[icy citrus]

Hope both

[lofty fable]

yeah and about the weight thing

in elite you have incredible feedback when turning, boosting, going backwards etc and i'd love that for in NMS. would do so much

i think all of what you mentioned plus this would make it better

[lofty fable]

yeee

[glass flare]

I don't think the problem is necessarily with the flight model. It's patterned after the old Star Wars space games, and those are fun. I think the main issue is that the enemy ships only target the player's ship, instead of some going after NPC or squadron ships. It creates a situation where you just get ganged up on every time, and the only way to survive is huge shields or constantly recharging them. So that doesn't feel fun or strategic. Having enemies target other NPC ships would spread out the threat and make it feel more like a Star Wars battle scene.

[ebon spoke]

Part of the problem is also that you have to kill every enemy yourself because npcs deal virtually no damage to them

I made a little experimental mod a while back that tweaked npcs to deal the same amount of damage to each other as players do, and it made everything feel a lot more sandboxy

battles could be resolved without any player intervention

Squadrons were actually useful

[glass flare]

yeah that's true also

[gloomy isle]

Honestly yeah AI tweaks would go a long way

And some tuning so that dogfights turn into turning competitions less often

[fringe scarab]

question

is the AUTOPAHGE only in the old galaxy ? and not in my new one ?

since i restarted sim

[frigid valley]

Autophages can be found in all galaxies of NMS universe

[fringe scarab]

well i tried using the search fiunction and it said nothing was found

and its my 5th planet trying

so i was confused

[frigid valley]

Open discoveries tab and take a closer look at your current system

1. If it has no dominant race it will also have no space station and autophages encampments. That's an uncharted system.

2. If it has no economy then the space station will have a glitched name and there will be no autophages encampments. Thats an Abandoned system

You need to find a system that has both a dominant race and economy

[fringe scarab]

ahhh

gotcha tha mght be why

since most ive visited now has bee unchjated and unsearched

thanks for answer 😄

the hole new galxy stuff still confuses me

so i keep going back to my old one xD

[heady wyvern]

Engage with the new galaxy as you would the old one, and you'll be alright.

[glass flare]

Yeah, there's no functional gameplay differences between each galaxy, they just have different planets.

[fringe scarab]

ok 😄

gotcha , so the main story do i just do sidequests now and ignore main ?

[heady wyvern]

If your main quest reads "New Beginnings," then there's nothing else to do there. Make your own dang fun.

[fringe scarab]

ok :;D

i have these

these

[flint cove]

should you reset the sim or not what are the pros and cons of each?

[unborn bough]

At the end of the purge where we have to select a galaxy?

[flint cove]

before

im at the atlas able to reset

[unborn bough]

There are no pros or cons, simply a different dialogue option. You can create a restore point (which should have been created already since you had exited the ship at the Atlas station), choose one answer to read the dialogue and experience some gameplay, then resload the restore point and choose the other one.

It makes no difference.

No choice in the story makes any difference at all. Everything runs its course as it is written, except maybe a hit on your conscience.

[flint cove]

alright thank you and when i reset what is the difference between the 4 options?

[unborn bough]

You are reborn in one of the 4 types of galaxies; harsh, lush, dead, normal.

[flint cove]

and which is the best?

[unborn bough]

Depends on what type of biomes you like to see more. Lush, for example, has a higher probability of spawning more lush biomes.

[flint cove]

and flying islands?

[unborn bough]

Flying islands are a thing of lush biomes, so more of those.

[flint cove]

alright thank you very much great support here

[lofty fable]

the things wrong with the flight gameplay are the following

AI is dogshit and there are no variety to their decisions just like you said
Dogfighting is too slow and visibility is very bad the further you get from your target, something like a zoom button would help this (elite, star citizen and other games have this)
Shots from your ship don't travel very far before disappearing
Controlling the ship is awkward especially when you have to use the quick menu to recharge things. Seriously, who came up with that? most not immersive mechanic ever and it's also a hassle to do. takes you out of the whole experience.

also i wouldn't compare this to a star wars shooter to be honest, it's not quite there but if it was it would be fucking dope (I'm talking like in Battlefront 2 or Squadrons.)

If they took their time and actually made it into that, god i'd be dogfighting ALL the time. Like imagine if they really nailed sound design, sound ques, ship feedback, visibility and everything.

@glass flare

[still gulch]

I really want an overhaul to Squadrons, especially a few key features:

• Formations, getting to pick what formation your squadron flies in, could be a V, diamond, box, maybe even design your own formations

• Upgrading Squadron ship weapons and giving them different ones, would be amazing if I could turn a Hauler into a support gunship

• Calling your squadron on the ground for close air support, like strafing an area or maybe even dropping explosives (Plasma Grenade bombing anyone?)

• Giving your Squadron orders like "Defend me" or "Intercept missiles"(for pirate dreadnought battles) or "Attack this target" or "Formation, synchronized firing" where they all fire their weapons at the same time as you.

And finally of course

• A huge buff to their weapons in general, they're far too weak

Alternatively would also like orbital bombardment if you have your Freighter in atmosphere nearby

[uncut harness]

idk i feel like the weapons can be strong enough with upgrades, might even be too strong

but i agree squadrons should be revamped

[still gulch]

Anything would be better than the 1 hp per hit that squadrons do now lol

What about the air support idea tho

I really like it because would be nice to get to really see the power of starship weapons on the ground

Imagine the satisfaction of seeing a group of sentinels get absolutely obliterated by a stream of photon rounds

[uncut harness]

you can already shoot the ground

[still gulch]

which requires getting in your ship and doing it yourself

I wanna be able to have my Squadron do that

[uncut harness]

oh

[still gulch]

Also would be a cool show even if you don't have a target

Like, find a bit of flat land or an ocean

Send an airstrike in the middle

Sit back and enjoy the airshow/fireworks combo

[wise forge]

is this a choice

[uncut harness]

yes

[iron horizon]

what choice do I make in the last one?

what's the best one

[uncut harness]

if u reset you get to warp in a different galaxy

if not you stay

[iron horizon]

but if I reset it do I loose anything?

[uncut harness]

no

[iron horizon]

and If I refuse it?

🤔

[uncut harness]

all your tech will break if you warp galaxy

[uncut harness]

you stay in the same galaxy

[iron horizon]

what's the best option then?

[uncut harness]

idk pick and choose

[iron horizon]

what did you pick 🥹

[uncut harness]

i picked warp because i like eissentam

[iron horizon]

what's that O.O?

[uncut harness]

different galaxy

you are currently in euclid

[iron horizon]

so Refusing sends you to another galaxy?

[uncut harness]

no accepting

[iron horizon]

ah okay

guess ill just reset 🥺

I don't loose bases or anything right?

[uncut harness]

no

[iron horizon]

ok ty

[hollow osprey]

Change your multitool and ship first

Everything breaks

[iron horizon]

im gonna use the ship that already has everything broken lol

never repaired it

wait a minute it doesn't let me change it O.O

just my tool noto my ship

guess its gonna gwt sacrificed 😦

[iron horizon]

last question does the Galaxy I pick matter? or all the same just different worlds

[hollow osprey]

You can repair it again it's just a pain

[iron horizon]

its okay

[hollow osprey]

The four options are Lush galaxy (green), Harsh galaxy (red), Empty galaxy (blue) and Normal galaxy (teal).

[iron horizon]

choice doesn't matter if im not gonna spend time there probably 😅

[hollow osprey]

I only went back to euclid to delete all my bases 😂 it depends what you want. Calypso has lots of places to find storm crystals.

[iron horizon]

I don't know what Calypso means 🥹

[hollow osprey]

That's the harsh galaxy

[iron horizon]

in game ofc lol

I hate getting sucked ny tornadoes

I have one of those planets really close by

ill just go green for quick repairs lol

[lofty fable]

https://x.com/ProceduralTRV/status/1819679987441545702

[icy citrus]

https://x.com/ProceduralTRV/status/1819679987441545702

Procedural Traveller 🚀 (@ProceduralTRV) on X

Not sure if anyone else has pointed this out yet, but in the latest #NoMansSky patch, the "with even more to come later this summer" has been removed from the update screen, it now just says more to come "later" ..... Maybe they need more time to cook Worlds Pt 2?

Twitter · Aug 3, 2024, 10:21 AM

[icy citrus]

For this server we consider story lore discussion and datmined/leaked info as spoilers 🙂

[sour fossil]

Let them cook, we can have a banger update in October

In the meantime maybe HG will sneak in cloud saves, kinda like they did crossplay

[icy citrus]

I'm fine with waiting, but not looking forward to the masses

[glass flare]

well that's disappointing. I just hope Mac gets clouds and water before Part 2. and yeah Cloud Saves would be a great holdover feature if Part 2 is getting delayed until the fall

[pliant aurora]

Very sad but i had a feeling it was too good to be true

[native carbon]

hello fellow dataminers, is this one of the datamined biomes?

[viral geyser]

Yes. What's your issue exactly?

[native carbon]

those should only be posted in nms-spoilers

to avoid spoilers

[viral geyser]

Bro you're not a mod

If the mods have an issue then I will delete it. Stop trying to play hall monitor

Mad weird

[native carbon]

🤦‍♂️

[frigid valley]

But I am

[viral geyser]

Want me to delete it?

[native carbon]

Yooo Bjorn

Hi

[frigid valley]

Alredy done, I would also appreciate if you remove any pics you posted outside of #nms-spoilers that contain datamined content

[viral geyser]

Got it

[native carbon]

@viral geyser told ya. Any datamined content should only be sent in nms-spoilers

[frigid valley]

For future reference

We appreciate when members of the community help with moderating this server. Fi informed you about a rule being broken and you chose to call them weird.

Treat this and my previous message as a verbal warning

[viral geyser]

He also @ me multiple times, which is unnecessary

[native carbon]

Your bio/information doesnt say anything to not @ you. So sorry i guess?

Lets just end it tho.

Cuz its getting off-topic

[viral geyser]

Yeah it's all good. Sorry for calling you weird you were just trying to help

[lofty fable]

oh my god

that looks crazy

[lofty fable]

i suspect a september release or at the latest in october.

[fringe scarab]

damn!

[sturdy swallow]

Ok, I've been doing the Apollo stuff, went through the Star Gate, got warped to a planet and then into one of the Atlas thing. It's asking me to follow the Atlas Path with yes, no and leave. Does this choice lock out anything else? Will there be something later I can't do based on this decision?

[frigid valley]

There is no choice that locks you out of anything

You'll still be able to do the Atlas Path and the Artemis Path

[sturdy swallow]

Ok, fair enough. Thanks.

[valid barn]

what's datamining?

[glass flare]

Digging through files of a game to find information, unused assets, content for future releases, etc.

[valid barn]

oh its a PC thing

[glass flare]

well typically yeah

[shut lichen]

So, I’m not super familiar with the lore, are living ships and biological horrors related?

[abstract dome]

When you reset atlas and get sent to the new galaxy how do you progress the next step? Its telling me to explore the new reality but are there any specific steps to do it quickly?

[sour fossil]

No, the New Beginnings mission doesn't have any real objectives

It's just a reminder that you are done with the main story line

[abstract dome]

so should i even be worrying about the three primary missions anymore now that i finished the main story line?

I still have the space anomaly, the atlas path, and new beginnings

[sour fossil]

Atlas Path can be still progressed

Eventually you will get Atlas Eternal in its place which has 1 looping objective

At that stage you are done with Atlas Path and can ignore it

[abstract dome]

Ahh alright, what should i be focusing on now then other than the atlas path stuff? i'm assuming theres still a bunch to do

[sour fossil]

Well there are still secondary quests, like Dreams of the Deep, Starbirth for Living Ship, Trace of Metal for Sentinel companion and hard frame mech

Also the Autophage questline

!faq-echoes

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❔ **Stuck starting the Echoes content?**

Make sure the steps below are completed.

⚠️ Use #bot-spam for FAQ commands below & check #nms-questions for the latest details about the update.

1. Finish the Artemis Path (main story). Run !Faq-ArtemisPath in #bot-spam.
2. Lift the Seal from a Harmonic Camp. Run !Faq-Interceptor in #bot-spam.
3. Warp to any system -- if that triggers a freighter battle, you must warp again.

❗ This information has been verified as of <t:1694212090:D> (after Update 4.44) & is subject to change.

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required. A Settlement used to be needed -- except on Switch, where you'd have to trigger it by warping 25 times.

📚 Contributors: Atlas Emissaries & friendlyfirepl

[abstract dome]

Ahh alright im on the autophage one rn how do i get the starbirth of living ship one though?

[sour fossil]

Buy a Void Egg from Quicksilver shop, pulse with it in your inventory

[abstract dome]

Alright thanks for the help

[solar hazel]

I'm reading an excerpt from a Gek Archive and there's this ominous censor in it:

"Therefore, policy recommends explicit reference to friendship. For example, 'Korvax-Friend', 'Vy'keen-Brother', '[ REDACTED ]-ally'." - The 57 Laws of Profit

I've never heard the '-ally' honorifics used by any species before

[stray slate]

Soooo
Can anyone give me a recap on who are nada and polo? I remembered i got spoiled a lot about this game's plot, about how we're actually humans trapped in a simulation or something

A simulation to keep the humans in check while they come up with a solution to find a new home or something

Am i close? It's been a while, lol

Anyways, i could use a reminder on who is nada and polo and why do they know more than the regular npc

[opal mulch]

if i remember right
nada is a divergent korvax who has survived the annihilation of at least one universe
polo is basically just some dude who found nada afterward

[stray slate]

ah, aight

sooo, spoil me

does the rebel path close off the path of atlas completely?

following atlas is deleting the universe yes? then you have the anomaly route which is universe hopping?

[frigid valley]

No, it doesn't
You can still complete under the rebel star and then atlass path, and the other way around.

[stray slate]

huh, interesting

and did i remember correctly, atlas route means universe deletion or something?

i remembered things about storing the universe inside a simulation if we follow nada

[frigid valley]

At the end of the Atlas path you get a choice to either deny Atlas ir to submit and create a new star

You reset the simulation at the end of the Artemis Path

[frigid valley]

Nada has their own simulation running on the space anomaly, it's a simulation of one star system

During the Artemis Path you get a choice to either upload Artemis into that simulation or to let them die

[stray slate]

oooh ok

so basically if you submit to atlas, you get to hop universes?

or something?

like proceed from euclid to the next one?

no? so basically everything is locked?

[frigid valley]

Atlas Path -> summit and create a new star, that's all. No galaxy hopping

Artemis Path (the main story) -> at the end you reset the simulation and the player can chose a type of a new galaxy they will be send to

[stray slate]

ooooooh ok

[frigid valley]

You can still travel to other galaxies

By core warp or with help from another player

Even if you didn't finish the main story

[stray slate]

ah that's what im looking for

[hot niche]

Does atlas path actually create a new star system or is it just flavor text™️

[icy citrus]

Fluff sadly

The blackhole it sends you to should go to an undiscovered though

[tawdry quarry]

itd be awesome if it made a system then had you travel to it

[green pasture]

It’s a lie 😦 ||or mabye not||

[green pasture]

Since when were u mod?

[native carbon]

we need Orbital update part 2 imo

shuttle fabricator
updated pirate station
updated abandoned station

[drowsy dune]

Was bro lying?

[icy citrus]

Yes they do

Look closer at the first

[native carbon]

where

[icy citrus]

All over, just smaller

[native carbon]

@icy citrus im terrible at explaining but im trying to explain that those 2 "biomes" doesnt match the biomes that were datamined (the forest, towers, and "creepy")

i believe this is just a mod that modifies the datamined biomes, but what do u think?

[icy citrus]

Probably using That Bomber bois mod to show the datamined stuff on every planet

Any flora likely has multiple sizes

[native carbon]

yeah, sooo is this picture posted by big noot against the rules?

cuz u know its a datamined biome

[icy citrus]

Yes, and I've already deleted 🙂

[native carbon]

ah

thanks

[native carbon]

so yeah i assume big noot was just lying/joking

[lofty fable]

i think it's the real deal bro

and that is not the only image by the way

[icy citrus]

Well if we find out later that stuff somehow snuck through, I'll apologize

[lofty fable]

i have another one but now i'm confused if i'm allowed to post or not

from the same guy

nevermind i cant post anyway

[icy citrus]

Post a link, I'll repost to expand

[lofty fable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269464404265795684/1269474526299820062/20240803173321_1.png?ex=66b0da88&is=66af8908&hm=bc1e1b64feb32b18d7e9e63be8b10e1c45588aea52b00d64ac4fbcb396df2f5e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[icy citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269464404265795684/1269474526299820062/20240803173321_1.png?ex=66b0da88&is=66af8908&hm=bc1e1b64feb32b18d7e9e63be8b10e1c45588aea52b00d64ac4fbcb396df2f5e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Yes, modded

[lofty fable]

are you sure?

[icy citrus]

I'm sure

Ask the origin, @viral geyser

That was posted yesterday in the modding discord

Being modded and posting in the photo gallery is normally a non issue- however when they start showing datamined assets, that cross into spoilers on this server

But it's not a big deal

[native carbon]

Nvm

lol

[gloomy isle]

The datamined biomes probably have procedural assets like trees etc

Atm there's little to no procedural variation underwater, just a selection of several handcrafted biomes with some palette swaps

[opal mulch]

why don't you dm mods about this stuff?

[native carbon]

I did via private dms

[opal mulch]

but you still posted it in here 💀

[native carbon]

Cuz its a nms-spoilers?

also why skull emoji?

[native carbon]

Would be cool

[opal mulch]

i just don't get the point of public call out posts is all

[native carbon]

this wasnt a report at first, i just wanted to know if this is a new datamined biome, not a random modded biome @opal mulch

@opal mulch so yeah hope its more understandable now

I wanted to know cuz modded screenies are allowed, but screenies that contain datamined stuff is not. So i wanted to be sure

[opal mulch]

not really but it's not the point of this channel and i don't care enough to continue shitting it up

please don't keep pinging me

[native carbon]

This channel is about discussing datamined stuff and nms spoilers so i didnt do anything wrong

[frigid valley]

Yep, this channel is indeed about discussing lore spoilers as well as unreleased content.

So let's stick to that topic and leave the previous one behind

[native carbon]

Hello Bjorn

If ill catch another datamined picture ill let u know

[pliant aurora]

Dam thats good. Part 2 is gonna be something special.

[drowsy dune]

Well mr. Jak spoiled my day so he didn’t do anything wrong either

[stone sand]

I dont understand why people take spoilers to heart. Future you will find out anyways, and the anticipation of find that one thing or getting to that one point makes gameplay so much more fun. (Aslong as the spoiler isn't story related)

[valid barn]

like learning ahead of time that the game is unwinnable, so it will hurt less.

[glass flare]

Some people want to preserve the wonder of finding some new thing for the first time themselves, rather than seeing it on some website first. And that's totally valid.

[opal mulch]

i can't name another community where datamines are counted as spoilers anyway, but it is cool having a dedicated behind the scenes channel

[glass flare]

TBH sometimes I wish HG wouldn't even put all the new stuff in their trailers, and let the community just stumble across things

[gray leaf]

those 50,000 players in the first 30 minutes after update:
"where's the content Sean? nothing changed, i don't see anything new"

[glass flare]

to be fair they were saying that even in this update

[opal mulch]

yeah I only picked up exploration with this update because I knew not only that there was new stuff, but that it was stuff I actually thought would be worth seeking out

[glass flare]

some people expect everything to be laid out before them like a feast, and don't seem to understand it's an exploration game

[opal mulch]

wouldn't have bothered if all we got was vague gesturing toward there being something cool

[glass flare]

yeah but eventually you'd see screenshots of cool stuff other people found

[opal mulch]

maybe, but because I didn't have to wait to know neat stuff was out there I hopped on the train early and got to discover a planet I've gotten about 30 other people to base on

[valid barn]

things that are fun to discover don't need spoilers, things that are disappointments deserve to be ruined

[dense quartz]

I've seen so many people say exactly this for Worlds Part 1 after jumping to only 5 different planets lol.

[opal mulch]

which is hilarious considering the differences in object density and clouds are immediately noticeable on most planets even if you haven't seen anything else new yet

[karmic lodge]

Time to end existence I guess

I reset it

[uncut harness]

[karmic lodge]

I chose green

[dense quartz]

It's possible Part 2 might come later than we thought. HG changed the patch notes to no longer say it's coming later this summer.

[analog breach]

Or they just are not sure they will make it on time. So better not give any promises

It ended badly last time

[icy citrus]

Either way, it's coming

[gloomy isle]

It's at the very least it's a significant way along so it can be too far away (hopefully lol)

[rare imp]

Well some people speculated it would drop sometime after the current expedition ends, which would be the end of august, so that would make september a possible release window, which is the start of fall

[gloomy isle]

September is summer

But it could still fall back to October or something ig

[rare imp]

Nah september is technically autumn/fall

[gloomy isle]

Depends

Astronomical calendar has it start on the 22nd of September

[rare imp]

Who goes by astronomical calendars?

Most people refer to gregorian

[frigid valley]

I go by viking calendar. Its either winter or summer

But it's getting #off-topic-bond-james-bond

[gloomy isle]

Seasons use either astronomical or meteorological calendars, both of which are valid

It's not tied to gregorian etc because it's a seperate thing

[rare imp]

Well, most people are familiar with and use the latter

But anyways I’m feelin’ september

I think that’s when they’re gonna release no man’s sky 2

[analog breach]

One of mechafauna has binary code in description

01100110 01100001 01101001 01101100
"fail"

Other has
01100001 01101110 01100111 01110010 01111001
"angry"

[icy citrus]

So do all of the archive walkers (living buildings, mechs archives, walking buildings blah blah blah) have binary for behaviour?

[analog breach]

Need more data to confirm

[gloomy isle]

I would love it if in purple systems, it's made pretty clear we're not welcome there like we are in normal systems. Things hunting us from the shadows, new hostile entities etc

[icy citrus]

I'm welcome everywhere

[analog breach]

They also have binary bahaviour

This on had
01101011 01101001 01101100 01101100
"Kill"

Other had
01100001 01101100 01101111 01101110 01100101
"alone"

[analog breach]

01110111 01100001 01101001 01110100- wait

[analog breach]

Yes. It looks like mecha fauna has behaviour writen in binary

[icy citrus]

Gracias

[analog breach]

No hay problema

[native carbon]

I believe that the next update will be about the ABYSS and oceans.
We know that there is a purple system which is i think related to atlantidium (its bc to craft a warp upgrade u need atlantidium and the mirror thinny) and atlantidium is related to the abyss/void mother which was infecting the oceans (if im not wrong)

So my theory is that we are gettin new deep ocean planets exclusive to the purple systems.

But its just my silly theory and it will prb. not happen

[sour fossil]

And the trivia in Discovery page is in assembly

[dense phoenix]

I'm hoping for general deep oceans
The current ones feel too shallow

[analog breach]

Cool. Got any translated example?

[lofty fable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNEr6dWK6vo

[dense quartz]

I'd be amazed if they manage to make the oceans deeper without affecting the rest of the surface of planets.
If we're getting deeper oceans, it'll probably be completely new worlds in new purple systems.

[icy citrus]

Water biomes datamined 🙂

[lucid tree]

What does the red colour mean in texts, i could never understand it

[uncut harness]

Ocean fauna could also use some uplift ngl, I really hope they use the ongoing Abyss storyline to work on the Oceans again as they did when they first introduced it. The Octopus in LNF Trailer looks far more advanced than any water fauna we have seen in NMS so far, considering that they added some new neat land fauna, I think there's a good chance

[runic mesa]

Is there actually a tie between the Void Mother and the Abyss?

[icy citrus]

Same thing

Or are they?

[neon ibex]

What's the difference between the Traveller and Anomaly races?

[neon ibex]

Where did people get this connection from anyway? I've never seen the term "abyss" used in NMS to refer to any specific entity

And who is the void mother anyway? Some matron deity for AIs? Competition to the Atlas, somehow?

[glass flare]

VM was originally the central AI on Korvax Prime

[neon ibex]

So the whole thing about multiplayer, far as I understand, is that there are essentially a bunch of separate realities, and that's why we and Apollo can never meet. But the Anomaly persists across separate realities, so why couldnt Apollo just go to the Anomaly to see us?

[neon ibex]

Ah

[icy citrus]

In the lore you can find scattered about in manufacturing facilities and the like is where it is mentioned. I can't quite quote exactly anymore, but it goes along these lines. "It broadcasts in burst of 16 from beneath the waves, a Power similar in nature to the Atlas"

Calls itself the Abyss and is able to subvert even the most loyal

[neon ibex]

interesting. How is it similar to the Atlas? If VM was just a planetary AI, and the Atlas actually created the universe