nms-spoilers

[icy citrus]

!Faq-echoes

[cloud jolt]

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❔ **Stuck starting the Echoes content?**

Make sure the steps below are completed.

⚠️ Use #bot-spam for FAQ commands below & check #nms-questions for the latest details about the update.

1. Finish the Artemis Path (main story). Run !Faq-ArtemisPath in #bot-spam.
2. Lift the Seal from a Harmonic Camp. Run !Faq-Interceptor in #bot-spam.
3. Warp to any system -- if that triggers a freighter battle, you must warp again.

❗ This information has been verified as of <t:1694212090:D> (after Update 4.44) & is subject to change.

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required. A Settlement used to be needed -- except on Switch, where you'd have to trigger it by warping 25 times.

📚 Contributors: Atlas Emissaries & friendlyfirepl

[icy citrus]

Doing that will start it for you

[olive galleon]

ok, thank you!

[fossil badge]

Now that space stations have been reworked again and we're on the 3rd iteration, I think it'd be really cool if they made it so the 2nd iteration of space stations showed up as derilect/infested space stations sometimes

similar to how OG release date space stations show up as defunct and infested space stations in some star systems now

[glass flare]

Yeah it'd be nice to have them somewhere for posterity's sake, though I don't think they're architecturally complex enough to function as an infested-style area and be fun

[sour fossil]

I like the idea of reusing the "gen2" space station models, but I would like to have them some new enemies instead of the horrors we already know

I think it needs some differentiation instead of being just derelicts with another layout, that could get boring quickly

Shooting dominant race NPCs is off the table cause of violence ranking on the game, then maybe we could fight some Sentinels there?

I mean, when we shoot a station normally we get provoke Sentinel forces in space, so maybe there could still be some lingering in abandoned systems. Why should they care the system was abandoned, they should be indifferent to that.

Also I just realized we ain't in #nms-the-future

[lime jasper]

How is the grass so tall?

I've never seen anything like that

[lavish marsh]

I’m sitting, graphic settings are ultra, and the camera is right above the ground

[ivory escarp]

so i was just looking for more info on nada and polo's backstory and. i gotta ask. ||does nada actually go back to the convergence once you go to the center of the galaxy?|| i sequence broke, i think, when i jumped through the center. if they do, i have made a good choice in never pursuing those quests any further i think lol

[wild dune]

No they don't. I'd rather ask where you get that information.

[digital frigate]

hits different when you look at your logs and it says Discovered 10 years ago instead of 2 weeks because of the story

[ivory escarp]

it says on the wiki that they ||talk about their work being done and returning to the convergence||. just had me worried hsha

[grave maple]

Is ||null the first traveler?||

@unborn bough

[unborn bough]

-null- is the first traveler, yes.

You gusy don't have to spoiler tag stuff in this channel.

[grave maple]

I am doing it cause I am doing a blindrun

That's why I wanted to avoid coming here

[unborn bough]

Oh, well then don't ask questions. All of your questions will be answered in the game.

Read the content of the game.

Even simple dialogues with random aliens is lore.

[grave maple]

I mean, the fact that you see null for the first time in the first traveler mission was a dead giveaway

[unborn bough]

Yep! and you will find out more later on.

[grave maple]

I simply wanted to be certain before acting surprised that Artemis for no reason was the first traveler

[unborn bough]

Keep a clear conscience though. Don't be swayed by what others have to say, make your own decision.

[sour fossil]

None of that in #nms-spoilers material though

[fossil badge]

There isn't a channel for bugs and glitches that I saw

wasn't sure where to post this

[icy citrus]

We don't keep a channel for that, instead we encourage people to tell HG directly

!hg

[cloud jolt]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[icy citrus]

That command will work in any channel

[fossil badge]

Oh yeah I get reporting detrimental and/or gamebreaking bugs

But I think it might be fun to also have a channel showcasing the positive usage and exploitation of bugs 👍

[paper meadow]

Is the atlas path just visiting the atlas station over and over again?

[sour fossil]

Yup, around dozen visits to complete it

[neon hawk]

its worth it tho imo

the story of the atlas is amazing

[fossil badge]

The reveal of what the atlas is and what the number 16 is all about is wild

[paper meadow]

Do I keep doing "Atlas Eternal"?

Or is that the end

[sour fossil]

It is the conclusion to Atlas Path

It's a looped mission with one objective

[vast swallow]

Fellow Travelers, Anomalies, & sentient beings of all races - has anyone followed up on the Autophages talking after you give them Atlantidium?

[wild dune]

I datamined the game to check all the dialogues does it count

[grave maple]

Why are the 2 NPC in anomaly hub acting depressed in New Beginnings?

I understand Polo, but Nada acting like she knew already

[wild dune]

Have you checked Nada's dialogue during the Purge or something about the game's ending

They just pretend that they don't know about it all the way through

[grave maple]

I think I missed only that one

Probably cause I didn't get the notification of the Anomaly quest

[wild dune]

"You know now, don't you? Of our simulated nature, of the end?"

[grave maple]

Hmmm

Ic, thank you

Btw I just got new quest about auto pilot override

I hope it will explain more about the whole thing instead off adding a side story

[wild dune]

"Make Peace. Find happiness. Be who you want to be. Goodbye companions. Goodbye, stars. I will remember."

This one's especially depressing I think

[wild dune]

Yes it does (I don't think the core story lack anything to explain though

[grave maple]

Maybe? I am not sure if it is because I had almost whole conversations not translated, but I also felt that there was no explanation about why there is a fifth race if we are called travelers and about who created Atlas

I mean, something about beyond the simulation. It's not like it is impossible for whoever is inside the simulation to find out about outside the simulation

[wild dune]

hmmm which language are you using in game? About what happened outside the simulation there are dialogues that can be found within space station secret doors that require Tier 3 Atlas pass. (but I'm afraid that room is not present in the current updated stations

[grave maple]

Hmm? I am talking about the alien and atlas language

[grave maple]

Oh damn

That's sad. I found days ago few v3 doors in abandoned buildings, but that was at the time when I didn't have any pass

[wild dune]

If you r reeaaally curious about the hidden texts you can check out this page: https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Rogue_Data

[grave maple]

I am curious about anything that hints about possible future content that will be about the outside

[wild dune]

probably nothing XDD

[wild dune]

Atlas language(as well as most of the alien languages) does not contribute to the core story(mostly because the texts were written before the main story was created). They just add interesting facts (like alien wedding culture etc etc) and make the game feel immersive.

[grave maple]

Oh ok

[grave maple]

Nevermind, found out basically the lore section of the wimi

Wiki

About waking titan and basically explained the outside part of the simulation

I also kinda understood or found a good theory about Atlas simulating the future

[wild dune]

Are referring to Rogue Data text or Boundary Failure or neither

[grave maple]

Either?

[vast swallow]

So Nada & Polo are Travellers? Along with Artemis?

Or are they like, special Korvax & Gek that built the anomaly to act as a pocket dimension?

[blissful magnet]

now that is a good question

[dire drum]

They are unique Gek and Korvax

[vast swallow]

@blissful magnet 16 is how many minutes the ATLAS computer has left before being destroyed by a black hole in "real" space

NMS universes are simulations run on the ATLAS and time moves faster, so even though ATLAS is mere minutes away from destruction, it's still thousands of millions of years in simulation time.

When you put Artemis in a simulation, she's actually in a simulation inside a simulation

[dire drum]

Polo is the last Gek in a universe where sentinels wiped out all Gek

[vast swallow]

With the implication that it's simulations all the way up and down and there is no "real" universe

Also if you care to get into it there's also a lot of religious symbolism

[blissful magnet]

so basically the whole games a paradoxical nightmare

[dire drum]

Yup

[vast swallow]

Yes

It's Nihilism: The Game

[vast swallow]

Ok cool

Its been a while since doing the og storyline

[blissful magnet]

you could even go a step or two further to say that the game itself beyond the atlas is also a simulation... then what if our world is also a simulation? christ its messing with my head

[dire drum]

The entire game is just a metaphor for how Sean Murray’s PC is shit

[blissful magnet]

is that the dude from NCIS

[dire drum]

No, that’s the lead guy of Hello Games

[blissful magnet]

i know i just remembered that the dude from ncis is also called Sean Murray😆i have a shit sense of humour, i apologise

if we look up into the sky one day and the atlas is up there looking upon us, i will be donning my starship

[vast swallow]

Lol same

[wild dune]

Yes the lost paradise stuff & from alpha to omega something something

[stone cosmos]

who was going to tell me that the reconstructed sentinel is an absolute adorable fellow that I now need to protect with my life

"it is delighted, it has never said hello before|" MY HEART

laylaps you are my best friend, we are getting soft tacos now

[fossil badge]

I think that moment in the post-game where you present the Atlas with atlandium is wild

Even outside of the topic of simulations, could you imagine how alarming that would be to a creator god?

A deity who created everything being shown a piece of matter that not only did he not create, but also somehow has no power over

[light kindle]

any chance we will get peons in our bases who can craft and do shit when we arent nearby?

[fossil badge]

An automation update that lets us build bases that are like a simple version of Factorio would be dope

[fossil badge]

Also man, until this playthrough, I had no idea you could spare pirate freighters

if you take out their warp drives first

and force them to surrender instead

[grand socket]

Be

[cedar rose]

It’s nice to blow their engines, take the tribute, and still crack all the fuel rods one by one.

[vast swallow]

I'm currently farming for an S

I didn't ever think I'd trade in my Star Destroyer, but here we are

[upbeat marsh]

Having supply pipes connect to refiners would be awesome
(also not to be that guy but #nms-the-future is mostly where that kinda stuff is talked about)

[vast swallow]

So the Interceptors were Sentinels, but we find them without a brain and kinda take over them via some modifications?

That's like, low-key super messed up lol

[vast swallow]

I guess it depends on how self-aware ATLAS is

It could be good news, given ATLAS's present situation, such a discovery might be a thread towards an idea

[strong geyser]

we take the brain out and "fix" it.

[vast swallow]

So it's the equivalent of a little robot climbing into our cranial skull and wiring up some controls to the nerves 💀

[strong geyser]

yes

[vast swallow]

Excellent

I love existential horrors beyond my comprehension

[upbeat marsh]

forgot the part where they take it out and bring it to a monolith

[paper meadow]

What's the story behind warping 16 times again?

[strong geyser]

The atlas only has 16 minutes left to live

Though the warping just gives you glyphs

[wild dune]

well don't forget you can also just take the brain and transmute it into pure nanite

[red ginkgo]

Simulation in a simulation inside a simulation, like in M. Night Shaym-Aliens 🤣

[vast swallow]

There's like 3 or 4 pretty good twists that are almost M Night level

Like our character basically being a corpse in a suit controlled by nanites

[paper meadow]

Are Geks actually evil?

[strong geyser]

no, but greed seems to be common for geks.

[vast swallow]

Define "evil"

[paper meadow]

I heard that they did something to the V'ykeen and Korvax

[warped trail]

Well they tried to enslave the universe

[strong geyser]

They didn’t do anything to the Vy’keen but they did enslave the Korvax, melt them down for parts and destroyed their home world

[orchid canyon]

Is it possible that I actually "beat" the game already and didn't even know it? When I go to "Atlas" I get the same message that i can choose one of three wonders but i cant decide which "wonder" to choose and then the message stating that my vision has created a new star but no reference of where so it seems moot.

[sour fossil]

That is the ending of the Atlas Path

No actual star is being created, it's just flavour text

The main story line is the Artemis Path, starts with Awakenings

Ends up with New Beginnings, if you see that in mission log then you're done with the main story line

[orchid canyon]

All the time in the world?

What is the best Multi-tool?

i get about 12k dps from my staff

75k dps from my starship

i use the "null" head with the reclaimed head staff.

I look like the headless horseman with a mechanical body

[fossil badge]

I had no idea the final reward for the base weapons specialists' quests is that he dispenses an unlimited supply of a multitool, that changes based on star system

So now I'm in my freighter warping around until I find a system where he dispenses S class rifles

Being able to grab 4 S class rifles from him, take them to the anomoly to have them destroyed for money and nanites, and repeat seems OP

[vast swallow]

Meh

This game is like real life, resources make resources and there's like a million different farming methods as long as you have the required starting resources

I'm pretty sure once you get max friendship with a faction & guild you can buy a ship for cheaper than it scraps for so you can just sit in a station and scrap every ship that flies in lol

[normal edge]

#nms-multitools

[uncut harness]

Marco

[vast swallow]

@uncut harness The game strongly implies we are basically a nanite swarm that assembles into another being, like Mr. Smith in the Matrix

Hence our ability to control modules and manipulate resources at the base level, and craft like we do

[uncut harness]

I 1000 missed that and thought the AI in the suit was working overtime to keep me from dying to the elements

[vast swallow]

We can still die but if we do another being with too many nanites around them becomes swarmed and becomes a new you

That's how respawning works

The game is low-key so full of horror lol

[uncut harness]

Yeah it is.

I might need a fresh story run

[vast swallow]

Most of the details come from NPCs, boundary events, expeditions, and some general guesstimating

Like the Queen, which is an older iteration of the ATLAS that survived formatting - and might know how to live past 16 minutes

Her holy number is 19

I haven't found out everything about her yet but I theorize the Atlandoids are giving me the coordinates to meet her

Stupid binary, why can't my suite translate binary 😭

[uncut harness]

Wait if I'm a nanites swarm then then wasn't the korvax home world technically one too this making it a being?

[vast swallow]

No, that was before the Anomaly (us) appeared

[uncut harness]

Right but when it was

That makes things worse

[vast swallow]

So each universe has a stream of Travelers created by the ATLAS. When a Traveler dies a new one is born into a recently decreased organic being via nanites.

The last of each Traveler line mutates into an Anomaly (us) and acts unpredictably and is basically a glitch or tear in reality. In every other universe so far, the Anomaly is the last Traveler before that universe annihilated.

[wild dune]

No. Nanites, lore-wise speaking, is 100% organic unfriendly and the travellers are implied to be organic creatures.

[wild dune]

The game states that Abyss/Void Mother/Korvax Prime is "artificial intelligence partially modelled after earlier forms of ATLAS" which I don't think is the equivalent of older iteration of Atlas, not to mention if it did undergo any kind of deletion. But, well...you are correct

I'd rather ask how one gets the impression that the Travellers are made of nanites...at least I don't remember any part of the game about that. Nanites in NMS != raw data: They have their own sci-fi characteristics, albeit negligibly irrelevant to the actual gameplay.

[vast swallow]

I may be reading too much into the interactions with the Haunted Terminals, the ones with Whispering Eggs outside them, and with the Travelers you run into on space stations, but that's what the messages seemed to imply IMO

[wild dune]

I'd like to know which entry specifically are you reading much into, since I've read them many times on wiki and in game. lol

[wild dune]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Abandoned_Building You can find all of the entires here. Though I do not recommend reading the part of the editor's "personal interpretation"

[vast swallow]

carrier has arrived

[proud helm]

mods reminding everyone to talk about lore in the spoiler channel for the millionth time

[vast swallow]

I'm not a mod I just figured that's what the channel was for 😅

[tired quiver]

the void stuff would be cool though. Adrian Tchaikovsky calls it "unspace". Makes characters go crazy and feel like someone is watching them.

[vast swallow]

So Telemon, Sentinels, & ATLAS are all part of the original programming from my understanding

[vast swallow]

How horrible!

[hard stirrup]

The original lore behind the whole meltdown of the Atlas and the endlessly looping countdown from 16 was that there was only one traveller per simulation or iteration if you will and that there was some kind of catastrophic hardware failure happening for the Atlas related to the end of whatever the actual real world it existed in, since the whole NMS universe is a simulation...one of many very similar to it. And the idea was that each traveler was simulated to be made in the image of the creator of the Atlas...hence why the travellers don't look anything like the other races. And the idea was that as the hardware of the Atlas was being destroyed(or so it believed at least) all these parallel but different simulations started to converge and mix up, hence how there came to be many travelers sharing a reality and seeing each other.

But the lore of the travelers has gotten a bit muddy and unclear over the years since player travelers cannot die and this is even reflected in one of the crashed freighter bits of lore where one misguided freighter captain wanted to kill a peaceful traveler to study it to see what it's made of since travelers are basically even more alien to the other races than anything else...and he did kill the traveler. But the problem for him was that traveler didn't stay dead and somehow returned but this time fully armed and hostile, hence how the freighter ended up as a wreck. But all the NPC travelers are all dead...they are all basically phantoms...or echoes of their former living selves. And each has a grave site. So there is a pretty stark contradiction there.

[gusty stream]

I'd like to imagine that the ghost travelers are what happens to those who fail to respawn.

Either hardware (save file data corruption) or whatever parameters are established in permadeath

Or, a similar fate to Artemis and Apollo

Save file corruption could explain the travelers that have had their universes implied to have been destroyed

[hard stirrup]

I rather like to imagine they are more meant to represent players who have stopped playing but it's kind of hard to tell...the lore really doesn't explain or elaborate anything there. Only Telamon ever breaks the 4th wall and acknowledges that there is a "real" player who exists outside of the NMS universe/s created by the atlas who controls the traveler avatar who "seals" the universe in an "awful darkness" when he saves and stops playing the game.

[gusty stream]

That's messed up. And I haven't been playing a lot as of late

[hard stirrup]

I also have a theory that Telamon and the Void Mother are one and the same. I base this theory on two factors 1) Laylaps during the quest A Trace of Metal completely and utterly ignores the player...it literally couldn't care less about you or what you have to say. It is absolutely thrilled and beyond happy that it meets Telamon and Telamon is the only one it pays attention to or serves. And 2) there are also two messages encoded in binary related to the void mother...the autophage debris each give one character from a list of 16 followed by a question marked as the 17th character but we can only ever find 12 of those 17 characters and they add up to "VOID MOTHER-----?", now we can reasonably deduce that the 12th character is a space so we are left with a missing 4 letter word that completes the question...I believe that 4 letter word to be "live" and the question mark indicating surprise and like Laylaps they are probably trying to speak directly to Telamon or so I suspect. And there is a second message in binary, if you go to Korvax stations and feed them atlantidium you will see another message encoded in binary that says "I see her"...which I also believe to speaking about Telamon but this time the statement is made directly to the traveler whose suit Telamon is trapped in.

[gusty stream]

But how can that be if the Abyss is also what remains of Korvax prime

While Telamon is a subsystem meant to monitor atlas

[hard stirrup]

Well we know that Telamon was a rather major AI tied to the Atlas meant to keep it in check and that the Atlas tried to destroy Telamon when the Atlas started to go rampant...but it couldn't so it sealed Telamon in the suit of the Traveler. But there is also some sign of rampancy from Telamon at the end when it threatens the traveler, or rather the player directly, by saying "in time I will wear you". That all adds up to the fact that Korvax Prime was destroyed but the Autophage are only now seemingly coming to the realization that the consciousness of Korvax Prime, or the program that operated it in the simulation, has survived.

[gusty stream]

Telamon itself comments on the destruction of Korvax Prime

Not out of fear that it was destroyed, but out of the realization that Atlas was turning itself into a deity

[hard stirrup]

It does, but that does not mean that it could not have been the program responsible for running it.

Also the lore of Telamon and the messages where it speaks directly to the player are all found in Boundary Failured on certain anomalous worlds where the simulation is unstable...those are ring shaped structures that look like gateways for ships to fly through even though we can't currently activate them. That fits very neatly in with the idea of the Void and those gateways may well be how we end up going there if Hello Games ever let us go there.

There is also a certain element of heavy irony that the program the Atlas wanted to destroy but couldn't ended up sealed in the suit of the agent the Atlas created for the sole purpose of resetting the simulation and we could well end up working for Telamon instead of the Atlas in future updates and to me at least it certainly seems like Telamon will play a significant role when the time comes to go to the void.

[wild dune]

That traveller mentioned in the log is highly probable to be null in my opinion.

[hard stirrup]

Wait, nevermind, you mean the traveller from the freighter log, sorry too many bits and pieces I am trying to discuss here. The traveller from the freighter log, we have no idea...it could be any traveller really. There is no real clue in the logs of that freighter captain identifying the name of the traveller...there is no reason to think that captain even knew the name of the traveller he tried to kill.

[gusty stream]

Ain't no way they made one of the crashed ship logs reference Apollo's death.
As if one day you finally stumble apon what's left of Apollo's ship.

[hard stirrup]

Welp...curiosity killed the cat I guess. Moral of the story, don't be curious in NMS. Probably killed by the impostor replacing Ariadne who we and most others on the anomaly figured out was a killer from the void long ago but decided to do absolutely nothing about it. We just wanted to know who it was...not like we had any reason to go after the traveller murderer who might come after us at some point.

[wild dune]

null is the only character in game who is obsessed with telling others they have done terrible deeds. You can check it out tho

[fleet peak]

I just realized that the character in the base computer archives quest is the player

[wild dune]

basically all travellers are one same person, so yes

[rancid flax]

some of my favourite dialogue in the story

[rain siren]

that is heartbreaking :(

[bronze delta]

You know I came here to like, learn what the monoliths were made out of (atlas seeds or something), didn't expect to uncover an iceberg of a murderer from the void replacing travelers and killing them off

It could just easily be some decrepit search and destroy program

[ashen geode]

Soo, internal branch update 👀

Could be a new update/expedition, or patch to the current one. What do you all think is more likely?

[analog breach]

To early to tell yet. Branch update is 1st sign of 3 that update is coming.

[cursive bay]

What sre the other 2?

Emoji from Sean?

[analog breach]

Game sale

Emoji is 3

[cursive bay]

Sick

[cursive bay]

61 days since orbital. Time for the new one.

I hope so

[analog breach]

We can only speculate

[ashen geode]

I see, I guess time will tell but it seems very likely that something new is coming imo

[cursive bay]

Pray that they'll never stop cooking

[ashen geode]

I remember them saying not so long ago that they were only at half the content/updates or something, so I'm sure they are!

They even mentionned that some of it will be interesting and also weird, I wonder what that means

[cursive bay]

And we got this now 🙂

Game is 50 percent off

[analog breach]

Only on steam for now. We need other platforms too.

[rancid flax]

it could just be a part of the "open world survival crafting fest" and have nothing to do with a update

[cursive bay]

nah

[ashen geode]

Alright, now things are getting serious it seems! But nothing to speculate on, beside what's been datamined

Still gotta wait for at least the emoji

[glass flare]

Sean is too busy creating hype on Twitter for a LNF appearance at Game Fest to do emojis

I suspect the next update will be an Expedition, but I'm hopeful it's that plus some new features

[ashen geode]

I see, yes I noticed that too! Really hope to see more from LNF soon 🤩

[icy citrus]

On the others now

[analog breach]

[analog breach]

Build 14207565
Build 14517647
Big jump in internal build numbers
It probably does not mean much tho

[jovial violet]

A Steam app's BuildIDs are a global (Steam-wide) number that increments with any change made to any app, so devs do not set them. A shame really, otherwise it would be a great indicator of internal work on the game to bait people with-!

[ashen geode]

If it's really a new update it's unlikely to come out tomorrow even if it lands on a Wednesday although it would be awesome, so perhaps next week is my logic guess

Now we wait for the emoji... What's your hopes or guesses for this new update, if it is one?

[analog breach]

Mew rooms/features and new ship types to build on stations.

[sour fossil]

Food stand with gek burgers

Or we riot

[analog breach]

Gek burgers
Vykeen pizza
Korvax energy drink

[cloud plume]

Maybe not Korvax, I feel like they drink battery acid

[cursive bay]

Nip nip monopoly

[analog breach]

So energy drink for korvax would be perfect fit imo.

Or coffee

[cursive bay]

They dont have any mouths or holes (as far as i know) to drink

[neon raven]

they probably have a charging port somewhere at the back of their head so they can just plug themselves to an outlet and charge up

[hushed wyvern]

So im hunting sentinel ships with a harmony camp thingy. Are they always the same model in the same planet? Or i'm being unlucky?

[honest grove]

yeah they are

if you want a different one look in a different system

[hushed wyvern]

Sad it took me years to find a dissonant t3

[fossil badge]

I like how when you're portaling, it lets you punch in any random sequence, and will accept it and dump you at wherever the closest planet address is

On my previous playthrough, I random portalled around until I got relatively close to the core, and then hopped in my 5000+ ly/jump freighter and manually flew the rest of the way

And then when in the star systems in orbit around the core, I was sure to record the portal address of one of the planets to easily come back on later playthroughs ^^

[fossil badge]

I just hit the post-game, and for the first time jumped from abandoned station to abandoned station to check out remembrance terminals and get the deep lore

and damn

the setting of the game and the A T L A S' actions make perfect sense after reading those

[fossil badge]

I know spoiler tags aren't necessary in the spoiler section here, but

||damn what a good concept it is, that the Travellers are recreations of the ATLAS' creator, which it inserted into its own creation in a desparate bid to find a way of saving itself||

[cursive bay]

Atlas watching me building a nipnip farm be like:
Yeah.. f*ck this iteration

[rain siren]

i think it'll be the underwater bases guys 😊😇

[analog breach]

We already can build underwater bases

Underwater settlements however.

[sour fossil]

I strongly recommend not to believe anything AI models spit out

Especially in context of emojis

See what happened one year ago with Fractal update

[analog breach]

Asking AI is like reading from tea leaves

[glass flare]

yeah, pretty sure there won't be any "new ship docking mechanics" in the update

[cursive bay]

prompt?

[warm light]

I've already deleted the conversation...

[cursive bay]

Sad

[warm light]

I asked them to tell me all the emojis from previous updates and to make an inference.

[sand karma]

Probably a typo, but No Man's Sky is listed twice in the Playstation discount blog. Being the only one with two entries. Or rather games with more entries have an additional DLC name, special edition, etc

All the discounts

[rancid flax]

interesting

[sand karma]

Also can't wait for the LNF trailer next Friday 😁

Though, I assume they'd also show whatever NMS update trailer they have at Summer Game Fest

[analog breach]

LNF diplo trailer pls.

[ashen geode]

My guess is it will be an expedition related to underwater things, like we had some time ago with a new narrative. But new content would be very welcomed! I just noticed the pattern of update>expedition>update>expedition and so on so I don't want to go all out, we'll see! Real question is does it drops today, or in a week?

[gusty stream]

I think it'll just be an expedition

Which, sure new unlockables can't complain about that

[vapid crane]

Probably one for PS4 and one for PS5 version

[sand karma]

Ah that'd make sense!

[ashen geode]

Yes that's more likely, pretty excited to see when it releases ^^

Yooo PS4 update!

Anyone able to see the update and the name in the in-game patch note?

[gusty stream]

Oh curses I leave in 10 minutes

But I will try

Almost 14GB

[zenith perch]

ps5 and ps4 apparently

[timid mist]

Yee

[gusty stream]

3 minutes...

[ashen geode]

I am genuinely impressed by how fast the update came out after those internal updates and such, did it happen that quick before?

[dense quartz]

Here's hoping it's not just an expedition.

[gusty stream]

The expedition updates had short hype periods

I'm sure it's just one of these

[ashen geode]

Honestly I think it will be

[gusty stream]

Anyways let's find out

[ashen geode]

Yippee

[gusty stream]

Im not sure if I can reach the anomaly in time

[thorn token]

Someone post the update info popup from main menu here please

[gusty stream]

ADRIFT

ADRIFT UPDAYE

[ashen geode]

Yay! What's in it?

[dense quartz]

Full update? Not just expedition? 😄

Oh sweet.

[gusty stream]

Just an expedition it would seem. But looks interesting

[dense quartz]

Yeh.

[wide goblet]

how does the iron vulture look like

[wind panther]

Need to wait for PC release so we can save edit

[gusty stream]

Give me a minute

[wind panther]

Oh, guess we can get a thumbnail at the vendor

[gusty stream]

I can try to check the QS shop

[dense quartz]

Looks like it has new content.. new way to survive..
So here's hoping it'll eventually get added into the base game.

[raw girder]

What is a abandoned universe

[ashen geode]

I'm guessing it will be taking place inside those empty/desolated universe

[uncut harness]

Empty universe seems interesting

[wind panther]

Yeah, likely the ancient variety, like they did a harsh one before

[wide goblet]

dang

[ashen geode]

Spoiler ahead, when you finish the game you get to choose a new universe between 4 of them

[dense quartz]

Avatar + Cyberpunk lol.

[long barn]

That's a beauty

[wind panther]

That's like 1/3 of a Razorcrest

[gusty stream]

OH THESE UNLOCKS ARE SICK

NEW PAINTS

[long barn]

Looks Razor Crest

[ashen geode]

Omg nice!

[gusty stream]

AND SEVERAL CRASHED SHIPS AS DECORATIONS

[wide goblet]

Mfw i cant repaint my sentinel ship with expedition paintjobs

[gusty stream]

The pet is ->

Frigate of the Damned

[dense quartz]

And here I thought they'd be giving us unique starship parts for our ships.
Nah they give us a whole unique one instead lol.

[uncut harness]

Desolation style update?

[raw girder]

Isn't what they call them the galaxy in game?

[ashen geode]

Yup

My bad

[uncut harness]

Can't wait for the patch notes

[long barn]

Expedition?

[wide goblet]

They better let us repaint our existing ships if they are giving paintjobs in expeditions

[slate lake]

In ~1.5h

[long barn]

Okay

Hmm

[dense quartz]

Wait, you add that to your fleet? I thought it was a wrecked one.

[long barn]

Nope it's a cursed frigate

[wintry berry]

do we have an announcement page yet?

[long barn]

I need

[ashen geode]

Not online yet

https://www.nomanssky.com/adrift-update/ this supposedly will be the link, it always looks like this every updates with the name changing

[lean lance]

oh it's an expo.

[lean lance]

we can already?

oh wait we can't

nvm

[wide goblet]

only build new ones

[lean lance]

thought you meant colour new ships

[zenith perch]

I wasn't expecting it to be anything other than an expedition, idc about expeditions tbh

[peak locust]

13,991 Gt 💀

help

[wintry berry]

insert <F5-ing> gif

[lean lance]

genuinely they're so tedious atp

especially when rewards are a bit lacklustre

[wide goblet]

but i doubt the exped colors will be on naturally spawned ships

[lean lance]

like a frigate? wow

[zenith perch]

I've never cared for the expedition game mode in general honestly.

[wide goblet]

so kind of unfortunate only built ships can have them

[zenith perch]

I'll take the QoL changes they usually do

[wintry berry]

there's some nice stuff there

story bits

lore

[uncut harness]

Expeditions are fun, they're probably having most the team on LNF anyways

[dense quartz]

Omega rewards were the best we've had yet. These ones look cool too.
And since we can play expeditions on our main saves with additional benefits, they're kinda cool now.
But yeah, they're still a little tedious lol.

[lean lance]

if they cap off the story arc with an expedition I'll be super disappointed

[peak locust]

i says itll take 34 years on my goofy ahh internet 😭

[wintry berry]

they don't

[peak locust]

i think ill use my phones internet

[fallow beacon]

Pics?

[uncut harness]

If they did, they'd probably turn it into a main quest after. That's how constructs came to exist

[lean lance]

I guessss

[dense quartz]

We never got the 4th part of the story arc, did we?

[lean lance]

nah

idk man im getting tired of expeditions

[gusty stream]

I'll ve back in a bit sorry

[peak locust]

i thought it said 13991 Gt

[uncut harness]

I hope we get to play an expedition that takes us through the universe one of the Nada and Polo iterations experienced, before it was destroyed. That's what this one sounds like to me

[zenith perch]

I still don't care for expeditions as a concept, I don't think I ever will.

[uncut harness]

I wonder if "abandoned universe" just means all systems are abandoned but with planets still

[wind panther]

It won't be all systems, I'm quite sure

Just an ancient galaxy that is more likely to have abandoned

What is it, the blue ones?

[dense quartz]

I can't help but feel like HG could've worked on new base-game content every time I see an expedition..
Rather than put effort into something they'll just take out.

[zenith perch]

Where frontiers rework

[dense quartz]

At least sometimes they bring back stuff from expeditions into base-game.

[wind panther]

Creating expeditions doesn't take a ton of work

[honest grove]

some stuff from expeditions do get added to the base game

some of the smaller features from them

[pure bay]

What's new?

[fallow beacon]

A razor

[zenith perch]

Honestly if people were expecting a full on non expedition update this soon idk what to tell them, updates in the overhaul era are far more substantial to the point of them not releasing full on updates this soon

[long barn]

Remember to use the terminal to put hyperdrive fuel and launch fuel etc

Essentials to make the expedition go smoothly

[wide goblet]

Interceptor + Launch autocharger

easy

[pure bay]

What type? Is it a new type?

[crude sand]

I’m keen, my boots have come off

[zenith perch]

hauler

[pure bay]

Sadge

[fallow beacon]

Just a unique hauler

[wind panther]

I like starting expeditions fresh

[dense quartz]

Wow, we're 3 years into the overhaul era and this is the first time I've ever heard someone other than me know this..

[wide goblet]

could we scrap it for its wings or something

[wind panther]

uniques don't scrap for parts

[wide goblet]

Grah

pathetic

imagine utopia speeder engine on Radiant Pillar

[zenith perch]

Praying they eventually remember Frontiers exist

It's afaik the only update they've ever not changed something on

[pure bay]

Praying we get rainbow grass paradise planet

[fallow beacon]

Anybody got more pics?

[ashen geode]

I've seen someone mention new paints for customs, anyone has pics? Also are the Explorer ships finally available to make?

[icy citrus]

?

You can make explorers

Fighters, haulers, explorers

[ashen geode]

There's one missing

It's what I meant, sorry

[icy citrus]

Shuttles?

[ashen geode]

It shows in trailers but is not in game

[ashen geode]

Yes, thanks!

[icy citrus]

Nobody has mentioned it so far, so I doubt it

[ashen geode]

I see, that's strange

[timid mist]

There are two paints, ones a metal plating skin and the others a camo style. Both grey

[ashen geode]

So no black still?

[icy citrus]

No se

[fallow beacon]

(courtesy of Oskar1up)

[icy citrus]

I can only read like 25% of that

[dense quartz]

I wonder what it'll be like to land on that thing.

[icy citrus]

[fallow beacon]

I can do little more than translating it one by one

First one, is the coating for a ship

[icy citrus]

Nah, I get the gist

[timid mist]

It's like 80% "a unique decoration for your base" type text, not really important at all

[wind panther]

Probably no landing, like Normandy

[gusty stream]

Oh it's for BASES

OHHH that makes senss

[dense quartz]

plz no.

[gusty stream]

That's dope

[timid mist]

Posters and stuff have words on them but I imagine they're prob just like cryptic atlas lore or quotes

[ashen geode]

The broken frigates says: The remains of a long-abandoned frigate. Despite its ruined state, it sails across the stars. By recruiting this ship, it will be added to your fleet of frigates. Manage your fleet from a fleet command post to aboard your freighter and consult with your navigator to deploy frigates on lucrative expeditions.

[icy citrus]

Ghost ship

Pirate classic

[ashen geode]

And the ship text is not so interesting: An exclusive ship commemorating the completion of the Adrift Expedition. Earn this ship to add to your collection or trade it for your current ship. When on a planet, call up your ships from the quick menu.

[icy citrus]

Need more ship slots

[crude sand]

Yesh please I am currently straining my eye balls for a ship I can scrap

[heavy light]

Alright, what’s popping

[crude sand]

Not any popcorn

[gusty stream]

Expedition update

[heavy light]

Only?

[gusty stream]

Probably

[ashen geode]

With some neat rewards

[crude sand]

@heavy light

[cursive bay]

4.70?

[ashen geode]

Expeditions leaves them more time to work on actual game updates, let's not forget their team is split for Light No Fire!

[ashen geode]

Yes

[smoky crater]

@icy citrus the cursed ?

[heavy light]

That’s just the Razor Crest

[cursive bay]

Changelog available?

[icy citrus]

No

[ashen geode]

Not on website, but we do have the screenshot in game

[timid mist]

I got bored and translated the posters except for one with tiny text, one just says "off the beaten track" and the other says "alone"

[ashen geode]

Here

[ashen geode]

Changelog should appear here once available

[wide goblet]

ok so is the freighter claimable multiple times

could we just make a ghost fleet

[cursive bay]

adrift is such a cool name. there is a song in phasmophobia called adrift

[dense quartz]

I believe it's a frigate, not a freighter.

[zenith perch]

Why would it say headless expedition when the expedition is called adrift

[honest grove]

mistranslation maybe?

[ashen geode]

Ahahah, translation issue lol sorry

Fixed

[heavy light]

I assume exped isn’t live yet tho

[wide goblet]

i mean frigate yes

could we just make a fleet of just ghost frigates

[ashen geode]

The french revolution update

[wind panther]

The other unique frigates are 1x

[peak locust]

the frick does "⚓" mean???

[wind panther]

It's an anchor

It's a clue to the name of the update/expedition

[ashen geode]

I'm guessing it prevents ships from drifting, so adrift

[zenith perch]

Sean couldn't find an adrift emote

[ashen geode]

I wonder if they have meetings when they submit the updates names and go "would an emoji be possible" as a candidat lol

[wide goblet]

I knew it! He's going too fast, he won't make it past the corner!

[icy citrus]

He just rolls out of bed and sends one

[wide goblet]

Hauler pulls a sick drift then warps out

[ashen geode]

takumi ae86 drift gif

[wide goblet]

N-nani!?

Hyperdrivu-dorifto!?

[ashen geode]

XD

[wide goblet]

black and white replay

[ashen geode]

I want to 3D animate that thing now lol

[wide goblet]

Gekumi Fujiwara

[ashen geode]

Lmaooo

[dense quartz]

Sean posted an emoji. That means we're getting an update.

[wide goblet]

Races the local Korvax in his dads nipnip delivery hauler

[gusty stream]

I didn't find anything new in the anomaly tech unlocks 😞

[dense quartz]

No new vendors in one of the 8 unused space station rooms either?

[gusty stream]

Huh

[smoky crater]

Am I tripping or did it update but not give anything 🤔 or do we still need ti wait

[gusty stream]

I haven't checked space stations yet but let's see

[timid mist]

I didn't see anything on them

I'm checking an abandoned system since that would be related, but nothing notably new. Though if there was a new encounter type it'd be pretty hard to check for manually lol

[heavy light]

Expedition update

[dense quartz]

I really wonder what this expedition is going to be like.. I kinda get the feeling they're overselling the "new way to survive" somehow.

[smoky crater]

@heavy light but when I got to expedition it's just saying no expedition available

[heavy light]

It hasn’t started yet

[smoky crater]

@heavy light then why update now that's mind boggling

[heavy light]

Wait for most (if not all) platforms to get the update first

[heavy light]

Because some platforms take longer to approve the updates

[smoky crater]

And

[heavy light]

They send them to every platform at the same time, but some platforms take longer to approve

[dense quartz]

That's always how it goes.
You updated to a version that can host the expedition.. the expedition hasn't started yet.

[heavy light]

In this case PS was faster to approve the update

[timid mist]

It's prob something like "stuck in an abandoned system with no way to leave" and goals related to getting money or whatever in space.

[heavy light]

That’s always how it goes

[timid mist]

Or could be something insane like a system with nothing but a space station lol

[dense quartz]

Yeah, it'll be interesting but probably not like, a whole new mode of survival.

[wide goblet]

You are stuck surviving on wild milk

no more oxygen

[smoky crater]

So the expedition won't start until everyone has update

[heavy light]

Almost

[smoky crater]

@heavy light honestly that's some dum BS

[heavy light]

Switch is probably gonna get it way to late for them to hold on the exped

[heavy light]

No?
It gives as many people as possible equal time to do it

[smoky crater]

But if you aren't getting the expedition to start with you don't have the timer only the ones who have update have the content

So they wont miss anything

[gusty stream]

Did space station interiors always look
Rusty?

[heavy light]

The expedition ends on a a set time that’s the same for everyone, if one platform gets it after all the others they just have less time

[toxic kestrel]

pictures?

[mental socket]

depends on the station

[gusty stream]

Is it economy based?

[smoky crater]

@heavy light j guess I makes sense but I sound hella silly at same time

Ok so if that's the case why not just hold the update back until they have been approved by everyone then push update

[dense quartz]

Space stations have 3 possible textures, all with various possible colors and a chance to look clean, worn out or rusty.

[toxic kestrel]

i bet its way more complicated and confusing of a process than we all think or know tbh.

[uncut harness]

Just not how it works, different companies aren't going to coordinate like that

[gusty stream]

Yeah ok I haven't played enough since orbital to notice that

[heavy light]

Not all platforms work that way

[smoky crater]

@heavy light then give them the expedition separately

If you want it fist get the provider who gets it first

[uncut harness]

I hope derilect frieghters are getting new content

[smoky crater]

Like I understand why they do it but I dint get why others should be hell back from game content because of lazy company's

[toxic kestrel]

i hope, they are so much fun.

[uncut harness]

The new expedition makes it seem like they're looking at that general area

[toxic kestrel]

wait, so any new leaks for this anchor update?

[uncut harness]

You get one of the little aliens as a pet, and there are some crashed ship decorations apparently

[tulip ledge]

Alright can someone give me a quick summary of everything that’s happened?

[honest grove]

new expedition is going to release soon

[tulip ledge]

I just got back from a six hour trip and I get this bombshell

[honest grove]

probably with some new base game content too

[abstract mesa]

This looks interesting SPOILER

[tulip ledge]

Eyyyy! Finally! Thanks man!

[toxic kestrel]

looks good!

[uncut harness]

We're in the spoiler channel

[abstract mesa]

Ik, it was my internet glitching cuz I'm mobile rn... power outages

[uncut harness]

Oh dang

[astral zealot]

sounds baller as fuck

[abstract mesa]

It's only natural that nms would update and houston would be powerless lol

[dense quartz]

I freaking knew they'd be giving us custom ship customization as expedition rewards the moment Orbital gave us ship customization.

[tulip ledge]

Looks cool, reminds me a bit of leviathan expedition or whatever it was called but just a bit more abandoned and with less life

[astral zealot]

Houston is powerless rn? the whole place?

[smoky crater]

Who's going alone

[tulip ledge]

Me!

[heavy light]

?

[abstract mesa]

200,000 of us are dark

[astral zealot]

oh jesus

[dense quartz]

The expedition gives you some starship customization parts for rewards.

[abstract mesa]

It rained. Lol. Our power grid is made by stoned gek

[astral zealot]

was it that storm last nigt

night

[tulip ledge]

It gives you a starship, not parts I think

[smoky crater]

@tulip ledge LETSSS GOOOO

[uncut harness]

A unique hauler

[gusty stream]

I think they updated the way travelers appear next to their graves

[tulip ledge]

And starships from expedition can not be farmed for parts

[astral zealot]

i live a few hours from Houston, not gonna say where cuz it's too small of a town lol

[dense quartz]

And parts.

[tulip ledge]

No matter the class

[uncut harness]

#nms-spoilers message

[abstract mesa]

#off-topic-bond-james-bond

[heavy light]

Woah

[uncut harness]

Oh man, the cursed frigate is hilarious

Like a ghost ship

[tulip ledge]

Aha, it’s the color thingy

[heavy light]

I really hope stealth paint looks good

[uncut harness]

So cool

[tulip ledge]

Parts are the same, colours I guess we’ve got exclusive ones now

This is confusing

Is this just an expedition update?

[heavy light]

Seems like it

[tulip ledge]

Oh well, I’ll be patient till the next update I guess

[uncut harness]

Gotta wait for patch notes, but I wouldn't expect anything huge, just some fun content to jump into for a bit

[tulip ledge]

Still feels like there is a lot of content to come

I don’t know why but I’ve got this odd feeling that this summer we’re getting something huge

[uncut harness]

LNF is likely full steam

[molten karma]

I wonder if we'll see a teaser the "big summer update" at Summer Game Fest along side LNF just like the game awards.

[smoky crater]

Like dreadnought huge or bigger

[molten karma]

I don't think we ever got that part 4 arg right?

[dense quartz]

I can't wait to read all the Steam comments on the news section of Adrift.
There will be soooo many angry people feeling entitled to free content.

[abstract mesa]

Lmao

[tulip ledge]

Tbh minimum dreadnought huge though I’d bet for bigger

[gusty stream]

Idk if the visuals were changed in this update but they were at least recently

[tulip ledge]

I guess that this is it then?

[wide goblet]

Oh look its gleam

[uncut harness]

Oh the glitch effect is cool

[dense quartz]

That certainly looks new.
I'm sure this update has smol stuff like that in it's patch notes.

[smoky crater]

So am j right on saying rhere will be a cursed frig

[wide goblet]

OH MY GOD I WANT THE STEALTH PAINT ON MY INTERCEPTOR

[heavy light]

$60 for a game that’s gotten free content updates for 8 years and people still feel entitled to more stuff

[wide goblet]

NOOOOOOOO

I CANT REPAINT MY SHIP

[heavy light]

You also can’t build interceptors

[smoky crater]

@wide goblet make a new one and make it BETTER

[wide goblet]

I know but i wanna repaint mine!!!!!!!!

Thats the thing!! You cannot build an interceptor!!

So on interceptors exped paints are USELESS!!

Despite them being very cool, ugh

[smoky crater]

Do I need to craft ship to paint it ?

[wide goblet]

yes i believe

[uncut harness]

You can only paint crafted ships yes

[heavy light]

Yes

[wide goblet]

unless HG makes repainting an existing ship an option too

[dense quartz]

Honestly, the NMS community is pretty spoiled.
We got overhauled space stations inside and out, system surges, frigate mission additions, starship customization.

The general response? "Eh, space stations could be more varied.. eh, why can't we paint ships black?"

It's eye-opening when a community like Starfield got their update where Bethesda added a camera option and a map and everyone is like "THIS CHANGES THE WHOLE GAME OMG"

[smoky crater]

Ah so I was totally standing at rhe ship thing for 10 mins for nothing 🙃

[dense quartz]

We're just.. too used to getting these content updates lol.

[uncut harness]

Starfield hype is mostly cope

[gusty stream]

Hmm..something tells me I should find an abandoned system

[heavy light]

Yeah

[grim lintel]

To be fair, the NMS community has had those moments too. Purple grass blew people's minds

[icy citrus]

Every update has had people wanting more or different

Nothing new

[smoky crater]

@icy citrus it's will always be this way ppl can't be happy with what they get even when it's free

[icy citrus]

Cant please everyone

I look forward to them all

Fun ride

[uncut harness]

Yeah, I've been here for many years, every year people want stuff that wasn't promised, people complain about the community and then @icy citrus has to remind everyone that none of this is new behavior haha

[icy citrus]

🙂

[gusty stream]

Is this new?

[uncut harness]

People just want stuff, which is better than not wanting anything

[gusty stream]

Or was it always weird like that

[dense quartz]

Honestly, a big part of the fun is just participating and witnessing people's reactions to updates.

[icy citrus]

They off the grid

[dense quartz]

Yeah it's brand new in 2018.

[gusty stream]

No, the label

[dense quartz]

Yeah it's always been like that for abandoned space stations. Even says "Welcome home" on the starship monitor when you dock.

[uncut harness]

I wonder if LNF is using a technically newer engine, and they're back porting features to NMS

[dense quartz]

Most definitely.

[uncut harness]

So maybe plenty of patches feel light so they can test stability

[dense quartz]

I feel like they've been backporting LNF features to NMS since 2019.
Like animal riding might be a core feature needed in LNF.. but they ported the feature over to NMS even if it doesn't need it, either just for fun or to test it out.

[icy citrus]

Capes and staves

Cooking

[uncut harness]

Dragons

Oh wait

[dense quartz]

Wouldn't it be funny if LNF is a "next-gen" (current gen) game, which is why it'll have Outlaw-era NMS capes, but were then ported over to NMS during the Outlaws update, and then HG wanted to release the game for Switch but realized capes weren't supported so they secretly freaking got rid of the cape physics are replaced them with static animations without anyone except me noticing?

That'd be funny.

[uncut harness]

I think we all saw the cape physics, I personally like the animations more, cape physics are so easy to do wrong in every game, it ruins immersion every time the geometry freaks out because I accidentally turn too quickly

Clothes were a sick addition with the constructs

[dense quartz]

It's the opposite for me, capes now just look so fake when you're moving in a straight line, and they weirdly stretch when you're falling down, I dunno what's up with that.

[glad kernel]

So is there any playstation player? What's new?

[glad kernel]

thank you

[dire drum]

Hm, what, update?

[runic mesa]

Can we stop with the unique ships already, HG. I'm running out of slots...

[uncut harness]

Looking forward to seeing what gimmick the expedition actually has, my favorite was the rogue like one

The memory fragments are a great reward from lost Travellers

[dense quartz]

I think we're at a point where it's no longer possible to collect one of every possible ship type lol.

[runic mesa]

I'm going to have to start moving copies of ships to a secondary save...

[uncut harness]

Also glass added a ton to the combat loop

[icy citrus]

5 original types, interceptor, solar, golden vector, utopia speeder, living ship, starborn runner, iron vulture

Guess we are right at 12

But that leaves no slot for a custom

[runic mesa]

Or ship scrapping.

[icy citrus]

!hg

[cloud jolt]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[icy citrus]

Everyone suggest more

Gogogogo

[mental socket]

has the expedition started already?

[zenith perch]

Incredibly yes

[midnight stream]

plus, its heart-breaking to have to let go of that Radiant Pillar in favor of another fighter

[icy citrus]

No

[heavy light]

This is just the Razor Crest
You can’t convince me otherwise

[runic mesa]

I would literally pay extra for more ship/MT slots.

[dense quartz]

If they ever give us more slots, they should seriously consider using the base-building grid layout for ships and multitools..
swipping sideways one ship at a time feels terrible..

[hard stirrup]

Wow that sounds epic. I can't wait to see this stuff. I hope the ship is amazing though expedition reward ships have been more about looks and not great so far.

[zenith perch]

Me still over here waiting for em to remember frontiers exists, I guarantee my wait will be longer than other people waiting for certain features being added.

[icy citrus]

Honestly, the Gaming community is pretty spoiled. FTFY

[mental socket]

agreed

thought it looked familiar

[zenith perch]

Or space station ownership so abandoned systems have more than just disabled stations

[mental socket]

really curious about the lore aspects of this new expedition

[runic mesa]

Daaaaaaang. Okay. Might scrap my exotic for that.

[heavy light]

STEAM UPDATE

[dense quartz]

YES!!

[runic mesa]

Now, patch notes, plz.

[hard stirrup]

Oh hell yeah...let's go. If the hauler isn't good I can at least make on that is good! Didn't expect this but I will take it.

[heavy light]

Not really parts

It’s just colors

[hard stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVy8Wj0CdlA&ab_channel=HelloGamesTube

[dense quartz]

You know, I love the custom ship I built but if these paint jobs are something I'll really like, I'll seriously rebuild my ship all over again just to use it. 😂

[hard stirrup]

Wings too.

[dense quartz]

I can barely hear what she's saying.

OH WOW did they add new particle effects to abandoned stations??
Looks like they're here to stay instead of getting the Orbital treatment, yay!!

[midnight stream]

on the upper left corner it mentions "stealth customization" and "ironclad starships"

[dense quartz]

CUSTIMIZABLE SOLAR SHIPS ARE COMING!??
Look at the ship options below.

[ashen geode]

We can scrap the reward ship!

"Additionally, the Iron Vulture can be scrapped, and its components utilised in the manufacture of a new hauler."

Now that's super cool!

[ashen geode]

Let's gooo!

[mental socket]

I sure wonder how the mp interactions go in this one. Are they bringing back orbs?

[hard stirrup]

Holy shit: "The ironclad metal finish may be applied to any newly-constructed starships in the Fabricator. Additionally, the Iron Vulture can be scrapped, and its components utilised in the manufacture of a new hauler."

[midnight stream]

so, 0 is normal, 1 is metallic (as in previous version), 2 is stealth (the new one)... so wtf is 3?

[icy citrus]

Hah, that would be funny

[mental socket]

well this is convenient

[icy citrus]

But how many times can you claim it

Since we only get to pick a single part

[proper stone]

in procedural ship gen there is Coated texture style, which is basically white/beige in place of metal of Metallic
you can see it in many solars

maybe its that

[midnight stream]

also, the exped being 7 weeks long suggests its gonna be a long and hard one... and since there are no shops this time around, i guess preparation (choosing items and tech to bring from anom when starting it) will b crucial

[midnight stream]

that would sure b gr8

[late tusk]

please tell me the new ships are not just expedition

[midnight stream]

that remains to b seen, but even if they are, there is the option to transfer exped ships into the main save (with some nanite cost) from anom

[late tusk]

ill just save edit everything in the exped like i do anyway

expeds are not my thing but neat that we get more stuff.

[midnight stream]

neither are they my cup of tea, but still ive suffered through most of them

[late tusk]

the only one i did was singularity

[midnight stream]

this one seems particularly interesting however

[late tusk]

that one was fun

[midnight stream]

i liked the worm-hunting one too, and another i dont remember now 😛

maybe it was singularity yea

[long barn]

Expedition now?

[late tusk]

singularity was the one that added the robots

[hard stirrup]

It is. It's just a new hauler skin and can only be obtained from expedition.

[late tusk]

LOL okay. save edit it is then

[hard stirrup]

You don't have to. If you complete the expedition you can claim it on your main save from the anomaly.

[late tusk]

i can claim it on all saves with the click of a button if i save edit

with out suffering

[hard stirrup]

I mean why bother if you don't want to play the game?

[midnight stream]

also, obtaining exped rewards is possible without actual save editing, but mere file-editing of the relevant file (any text editor will do). but ofc save-editing might actually b easier, so long as the editor is updated

[late tusk]

i do play the game. just not expeditions

[hard stirrup]

Why not? They are great and fun new experiences.

[midnight stream]

while not my thing either, they always provided me with a sense of accomplishment when that last milestone was fulfilled (and the nice music started playing) 😄

[late tusk]

eh. i dont find them fun. i just want the rewards/cosmetics so i can go about continuing to be a space pirate lmao

[hard stirrup]

There is no real point to piracy. At most you do it once for the faction standing, medals, and player titles unlocked from there but that's about it. It's only a good method of making units early game before you build something more solid and far more profitable.

[midnight stream]

some ppl enjoy their pirate-ness just 4 the sake of YARRRR

Credit: Thatbomberboi

[grim lintel]

Maybe they'll let us part out the whole thing?

[midnight stream]

if not, we'll have to rely on collaboration and duping

also, u can transfer it to main save via anom new exped terminal (as in omega exped), in addition to the one u get from qs bot once its unlocked

[grim lintel]

Admittedly it won't be much of a problem for me since I mostly want the cockpit

Wonder what the interior looks like

[idle escarp]

these worms

are so damn loud

[hard stirrup]

On the expedition save you can have two iron vultures since you get one as you complete expedition and one from anomaly rewarrd...scrap those and transfer 2 of the 3 parts to main save, then when back to main save claim another irom vulture from the anomaly and scrap it for the 3rd part. But sadly you won't ever have spares without duplication or other forms of cheating.

[vague oriole]

wait so is the "abandoned universe" like a singleplayer only private workd?

[midnight stream]

right, that's how ppl were getting 3 photonix reactors (from 3 starborn runners) legitly. 4rgot about the 3rd one

[hard stirrup]

The blog post says multiplayer will be enabled but no communication between players allowed if I understood that correctly.

[vague oriole]

oh it's expedition only

thought it was a new mode or something

[hard stirrup]

Yeah, just new expedition.

[idle escarp]

how do you transfer items from one save to another?

[midnight stream]

via the new anom exped terminal, though technically ur not xfering them to a new save

since now u embark on exped with ur main save

and ofc this only applies for currently running expeditions

[idle escarp]

oh, I started a new save

[hard stirrup]

You can only do it with an expedition you start from within your main save on the anomaly...that allows the expedition and main save to be linked and allows transfer of more stuff than usual.

[midnight stream]

bc this exped appears long and hard (7 weeks long, no shops etc) id recommend using ur main save, so that u can xfer items and tech to the new exped game

[hard stirrup]

They are giving players 7 weeks to play it but I doubt it will take that long to complete. Most expeditions I completed in like 5 hours each and that was no speedrunning time either.

[gusty stream]

Tch, all I need is 2 refiners and I'm set.

[midnight stream]

thats fair, but iirc most expeds had a duration of 4-5 weeks, so this one being 7 weeks in comparison could be a sign of it being longer (consisting of more milestones)

[timid hill]

When do we expect it to start?

[idle escarp]

now

[midnight stream]

release notes mention "today"

[hard stirrup]

It already has.

[timid hill]

i aint see it

[midnight stream]

if ur on playstation or steam, u can probably already start it

[gusty stream]

It has not started

[hard stirrup]

Only playstation has the update rn, you have to get the update first but as soon as you do, expedition is live.
Correction: Steam too.

[sour fossil]

PC Steam and Mac have it as well

[timid hill]

Got the download, but it is yet to show its self

[gusty stream]

Actually do I need to reset

It's not on for me

[midnight stream]

well, its probably a matter of hours b4 it begins

[gusty stream]

Precisely

Xbox doesn't have it

[midnight stream]

gog doesnt either

still w8ing for the upd8

[rain siren]

hey i thought we were meant to be alone but i can see everyone else

[gusty stream]

Nintendo Switch will get it in a week

[timid hill]

Lol yea

[midnight stream]

that's 4 the expedition

perhaps they r w8ing for the update to release on all platforms that have multiplayer (switch doesnt), so that all start the expedition on equal footing

[hard stirrup]

Hope Xbox is on their A game today...it took them a week to release last update.

[versed meadow]

Stealth starship paint?? Anyone get it yet? Is it what I think it is?

[midnight stream]

yea i think there was a more general issue on xbox updates that delayed the release of the last one there

[rain siren]

no i'm in the expedition right now

[timid hill]

Ah my Expe just showed up

[hard stirrup]

Nobody has had time to complete the expedition yet.

[midnight stream]

rly? and u r not alone?

[rain siren]

i dont have image perms

yeah theres like 20 starships here HAHA

[timid hill]

What should i take

[midnight stream]

...

[midnight stream]

id suggest a copy of ur best modules (so that u can dupe em on exped with exocraft duping) and a stack of starship ai valves (to dupe in exped for credits)

[timid hill]

Im not too worried about my credits

[midnight stream]

perhaps rare stuff too, like basalt or the like, since there wont be shops around this time

[rain siren]

this is so cool though, cant wait for everyone to see this

[timid hill]

true

[honest grove]

i dont see any new expedition

just opened the game

[midnight stream]

on what platform?

[honest grove]

pc game pass (microsoft store)

[midnight stream]

i guess all such issues will b resolved in a few hours

[hard stirrup]

Xbox doesn't have it yet and gamepass is tied at the hip with Xbox.

[timid hill]

i find it weird how the screen vibrates when off the ground

[near ferry]

expedition on start , question how ||do I build stuff no access to build plans ?|| thanks

[timid hill]

read log

should have 2 quests

[late tusk]

piracy has been my go to since i started playing back then

[vocal goblet]

So you can still buy stuffs from a galactic trade terminal.. Nice nice 😅

[timid hill]

oof lol

[midnight stream]

apparently even an abandoned, empty universe is no match for the Force of capitalism and free market

[hard stirrup]

Hello Games should have called this the Starfield expedition lmao. Huge missed opportunity there.

[midnight stream]

certainly missed opportunity for copyright lawyers 😄

[hard stirrup]

It's a short term expedition, it would have ended before Microsoft's lawyers could finish writing their cease and desist letters.

[midnight stream]

probably true, though that wouldnt prevent them from suing for damages/lost profit afterwards

[hard stirrup]

The expedition is free...what are they going to sue for? The profits of $0 Hello Games made off of expedition sales?

[unborn bough]

Lol!

[midnight stream]

a cause of legal action for copyright infringement may arise out of any fact that creates "confusion" between 2 similar products

ofc, the rest is a matter of proof on the part of the claimant

but if there is an above 0 probability of a customer willing to buy starfield but instead buying nms after hearing of the "starfield" expedition, that would provide the grounds for a claim for lost profits

generally, its much easier and safer to choose different names and avoid such risks altogether

[hard stirrup]

That would cease to be relevant when the expedition ended. There would be no more expedition to cause confusion before it could get to court. Plus MS would have to demonstrate a decline in sales that is more than usual and I doubt they could do that.

[midnight stream]

and cheaper too, since ur own lawyers wont work for free, even if u are absolved

[midnight stream]

it wouldnt cease, since it would involve at least the 7 weeks that it lasted, plus any further duration the claimant could prove that it could affect sales

the time it would cease depends on the national law, e.g. here in greece it stands for 5 years

even if the confusion lasted for 1 sec

but as i said, this comes down to proof

[hard stirrup]

I doubt any court would even hear the case with no product on the market.

[midnight stream]

dont b so sure on that. both products have obvious similarities (space etc)

[hard stirrup]

NMS released first...Starfield has no claims there...if anything is too similar it would be Starfield who copied.

[midnight stream]

what matters is who copyrighted the word "starfield" first (in this case)

[timid hill]

so i can post potential spoilers here? or is there a better location?

[midnight stream]

considering this channel is called nms-spoilers, i doubt u could find a better place

[near ferry]

How do i get deuterium, if i can't get tritium ?

and thanks again !

[gusty berry]

Speculations be like

[midnight stream]

castro also means castle in some languages, so... nms-lnf medieval age crossover confirmed!

[quasi niche]

uhhhh

guys what comes after 13?

[midnight stream]

...14?

[zenith perch]

Some people don't like expeditions

I'm fundamentally against them being FOMO and I think its the worst decision they've ever made in this game. It baffles me as to why they're still FOMO. It's pointless.

[hard stirrup]

If you think these expeditions are fomo you have no idea what fomo is. The expeditions are short and we are given vast ammounts of time to complete them with basically zero grind or time pressure.

[zenith perch]

I know what FOMO is very well

The time pressure is the roughly 7 week timer

If I didn't have time within those 7 weeks I'd have to wait till the expeditions rerun

I see no reason to not be able to access them outside of their arbitrary timeslots unless its a server problem or something like that

[hard stirrup]

If you think 7 weeks for a less than 10 hour expedition is fomo I have got news for you....you have literally never been exposed to fomo.

[zenith perch]

I played Destiny 2, but sure

or elite dangerous with the joke of a fleet carrier system that takes it away from you if you don't log in to shovel money into it because FDev are a joke

Idk why they started adding timers in the first place tbh but that's an entirely different discussion

[azure pumice]

Guys, is thr new galaxy a brand new galaxy type or just for an expedition? Im excited to explore it so im wondering

[hard stirrup]

It's not a new galaxy, it's Euclid.

[zenith perch]

Is there any downside to putting stuff from expeditions into the QS shop and having them have a decent enough price a few updates or so after an expedition ends or a new update comes out cause I aint seeing it

[azure pumice]

Just an expedition version of euclid? Oh brother... thats really underwhelming

I was reall hoping this was the exploration update i was waiting for

Oh well, back to waiting for an exploration update! See ya all in like 2,3 months

[zenith perch]

It's an expedition only

[azure pumice]

Too bad. As an avid explorer of empty galaxies, i was hoping this was the update for me

But im not really interested if its just an expedition. I might clear it for rewards but not really my thing

[zenith perch]

I honestly don't think an exploration update is coming any time soon

You're better off modding the game on pc if anything

[azure pumice]

Yeah... i kinda gave up hope on that already and was super excited at work today when ive seen the new galaxy

Eh, ill pass on modding. Ive modded the game to hell and back like 2 years ago to get that sense of exploration back but it simply isnt it if its not shared with other people. I loved the idea of my name being plastered on systems in the new galaxy.

[fallow beacon]

so...we can make our own

[zenith perch]

I'd be very surprised if they bothered doing procgen stuff again for terrain or w/e honestly

Kinda surprised we never got a more substantial version of Visions honestly

[azure pumice]

Sad noises on max volume

[runic mesa]

Someone let me know when they complete it on an existing save, if the Wonders being wiped glitch is still there.

Because that is stupid annoying.

[quasi oyster]

I didn’t have enough time to re-fill out my Wonders catalog since the last wipe, so I do intend on playing this. Will let you know if it wipes again.

I mean, worse comes to worse - you just play it in normal-mode (ie. Make a new save file via expedition)

[spice sky]

Question. What is the easiest way to find a crashed ship in Exp13? the signal booster?

[tame grotto]

Check #nms-expedition for expo questions n tips

[stone sequoia]

guys?? have you gotten to the space anomaly yet?

the stuff is psychological horror

all the npcs are gone and Nada is dead 💀

Looks like it should move to a random position everytime you look away and face where your character is the moment you look back, and whenever you look at it freeze in place

[thorn token]

Already got it via service bot on PS5 😋

[light vigil]

so like uhhh

an abandoned universe

empty and scary and dark

this wouldnt happen to be... where artemis and uhhh

yk

[stone sequoia]

oooooooh

maybe

but why is analogue psycho horror Nada chilling in the Anomaly

[light vigil]

idk i just started

[rain siren]

do you guys think this is the universe where the entirety of it was wiped by the sentinels

all lifeforms were killed in 50 seconds or smth

[stone sequoia]

i dunno

it looks more like everything ran away for some reason

[vocal goblet]

@dry gale

You get the Hyperdrive Plans by completing the Phase 1 : Milestone Lights Out (find a space station)

[icy citrus]

Not a bad theory

Let's roll with it

[tawdry quarry]

good to see other people remembered that too

[glass flare]

often they test new tech in an expedition before bringing it to a main update. i wonder if this ability to ad hoc change how the world is populated could come to the main universe in the future

*I realize abandoned systems and such already exist

[uncut harness]

That's my fanfiction too, Nada is somewhere out there haha

[cloud plume]

fr when they mentioned it was empty I immediately assumed it was the sentinels fault

[glass flare]

or this alt universe is at an end state where Atlas's hardware is so damaged that it no longer has the capability to fill the world with a bunch of NPCs

[spice gorge]

So do you get the new hauler right away at start of the new Adrift EXP?

I guess you can eventually bring a ship from your parent save in to this Exp with the new mechanic

[sour fossil]

I think so but haven't done it yet

[light vigil]

is the new ship type going to be a part of the exp or is it another post exp reward?

i dont know if i should bother getting a new ship in case i get it handed to me

[glass flare]

i believe it's exclusive to the expedition rewards

[compact coyote]

So is it really its own universe?

[glass flare]

good question, I'm not sure if it's a unique procgen seed, or it's just a stripped down version of Euclid

[light vigil]

wait so i can summon anomaly but theres no npcs for me to talk to aka i dont get my cosmetics?

rip

[rain siren]

nah it's stripped down euclid i think, i found a system discovered 6 years ago

[glass flare]

ah ok, makes sense. would've been cool if it was a new seed though.

[rain siren]

most of the systems were very unexplored though, they seemed brand new

so im confused

[glass flare]

well to be fair, outside of the starting area and the major navigation lanes, a lot of Euclid is still very unexplored

[molten karma]

Even though its stripped down Euclid its still a separate universe from Euclid? This only matters because I wonder if this could lead to a procgen update in the future with a brand new alternate universe without affecting exisiting bases or planets. I mean this could be a test solution for that right? One can dream.

[glass flare]

I haven't started the expedition yet, but I don't think they're changing anything to do with the procedural generation, other than changing the NPC spawns. it's still effectively the same universe as Euclid, just modified superficially. I suppose if you can build a base and then come back and find the base after finishing the expedition that would probably prove it's actually Euclid with some changed options

[carmine kestrel]

Can someone help me. I'm stuck on finding the portal. I travled to the system with the expedition marker but i don't see the portal market anywhere

[gray leaf]

I can't provide an answer as i haven't started the exp yet.
But it's best if you ask for help in #nms-questions
Also #nms-expedition is where everyone is chatting about the current one as well

[sturdy sorrel]

so lore wise. What the hell does this mean?

now suddenly the atlas has a universe barrier strong enough to shut everything out

the reason all of the races had converged like they did is because the atlas was breaking down and seperate universes started merging.

atleast i thought that was the lore

but now it can shut everything out except the anomaly

is something fixing the atlas?

it can't all be ludonarrative dissonance, something must be happening

i havent gotten through the expedition yet but just going off of the base idea, something is up

[smoky crater]

Gd morning

[azure pumice]

Cant it be possible that there are still some universes that havent started merging?

[shadow mountain]

|| Youncan custonize the Iron Vulture. Seems the fans dont have the glowing though. Only the original does ||

|| Source: https://youtu.be/cEBn2X2YHTQ?si=5qFDbFBpw3Vnuu5G ||

[wide goblet]

Relationships exist in NMS???

[fossil badge]

Hello Games forgot to remove one lifeform in this isolation expedition

I just got freighter that came with one random mining frigate, and when I landed on it I was greeted by vy'keen dude casually handing me some magnetized ferrite

as if the universe wasn't empty lol

Am currently working through phase 3, after getting sidetracked scouring systems for a decent looking abandoned ship to repair

[wild dune]

Vykeens have wedding and Geks have spawning mate. So why not...XDD

[analog breach]

Love finds a way i guess

[gusty berry]

is Surge Battery an expedition mission thing

[hard stirrup]

Ok, I feel like we need to talk about all this Void lore some more because Hello Games have not only been at it for years now but in this expedition they brought it by the buckets and seem to be making it clear we have to go there. But when? And how will it be handled? There have also been some subtle but clear references to Telamon driving us to go there. While this expedition does not name-drop Telamon, it is mentioned on two different occasions that our "exosuit" could be a driving factor in influencing us. And we know from the Boundary Failure lore that this is EXACTLY what Telamon is doing. Here are her own words on the matter of her trying to influence the player: "They do not think to question the path laid out before them. They do not think to question me."

[wild dune]

How do you manage to arrive at the Void when it is literally an AI aka Korvax Prime but dead

[hard stirrup]

The void is a place. This has been mentioned several times. Things go and come from there. The Void Mother is the surviving consciousness of Korvax Prime but the Void Mother is not the void even though she is clearly related to it.

[wild dune]

Well, that's valid. Probably

[wild dune]

Can you provide some examples of Void being treated as something different from Void Mother?

[hard stirrup]

Well take the new ghost frigate, that's from there. This expedition even contains a part where the player character contemplates going to the void and comes to the conclusion we must. Also the first weekend missions when they had an actual written story by a hired writer dealt with Ariadne disappearing and being replaced by a mimic of sorts...an entity from the void impersonating her and killing other travelers.

[small pier]

||I know very few times a expedition alludes to future updates, it still happens but its rare, do you think this update and its more solidified mentions of the damned, ghosts, lost files basically, coming back in a sense? Like a update to Desolate/Abandon Frigates we got a few years back? Or alluding to something with the Abyss?|| Obviosuly largest mention is the void which dind't the living frigate Expedition talk about it too?

(Wasn't sure to ask this here or in nms-the-future)

[small pier]

I'm a bit rusty on my lore but is Telamon an antagonist, I had assumed they were helping us with what we read from them on those giant ring terminals on Exotic Planets?

[gray leaf]

I would have done it in #nms-the-future personally.
(also no spoiler tags necessary in here 😄 )

and who knows, it could definitely hint at something.
specially with the whole custom galaxy thing, could indicate working on some "instanced" places they are testing to implement.

[small pier]

That's what I'm thinking too tbh
Expeditions, at least for me, have always been a means be a standalone story but also add-on or hint at the bigger story in the larger updates we get, like, they're side-stories to a main book series?
I also would love it if we got more haunted frigate variations or maybe haunted/cursed full on Frigates for that prestine horror factor?

I will have to say that this Expedition and almost all of NMS has been the most scary, existential, depressing, and anxiety enducing thing they've produced, and I love it.

I want more of this ambient cosmic horror

[native carbon]

how did u get it tho

cannot find it

[small pier]

The new ship?

[native carbon]

yes

via bot deliveyr

delivery*

[small pier]

Oh, not sure about Bot Delivery, I just did the expedition, then went to the Anomaly and pulled it from the vendor there :/

Off-topic but does everyones new ship have the same line of code onit?

[analog breach]

2431987... a date? 24.3.1987?

[small pier]

Thats what I was thinking

Maybe one of the developers birthdays or a significantothers, or maybe the date to a important person?

Also, apparently there's secret lore we can do, anyone know how to start that?

[analog breach]

Its not sean birth date

[gray leaf]

@native carbon from previous experience, you select ship, but then select expedition reward.
not sure if something changed, but better ask in the creative hub discord