nms-spoilers

[analog breach]

He is also not 100% thrustworthy

[wooden anchor]

Nada I always felt is hiding stuff from you.

I truly think that everyone in no man's Sky somewhere on the neutral scale that there's really no good person maybe Artemis is the only good person and no man's sky

[plain thicket]

The whole point, I think, is that no one is good or evil, they just exist, circumstantial to the system.

[analog breach]

Well no one beside the gek

[heavy light]

@hybrid pendant please do

[hybrid pendant]

u sure?

it could be upcoming content for the next update soo

its at ur own risk

ok one sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBYTMjHFmpc

similar design

maybe better like that

[sly zephyr]

I wonder how the switch will like those…

[sullen hornet]

They need to do some SERIOUS optimization overall. I don't even know if it's possible but man is it needed. Even on pc it's gotten a lot worse, especially with multiplayer. The stuttering and lag is atrocious. Last gen is nigh unplayable

[analog breach]

Form what i saw. They focus on diffrent plaform each time when doing updates ,patches and optimization.

[mental socket]

Now that I think of it, the space stations seem to be one of the last few things that have the "old style" on the exterior. Freighters, new buildings etc. all seem more "new" nowadays

Like... the pirate freighter is way way bigger than a space station too. The space station looks like a little toy block next to it

[analog breach]

Hg need to hook up the proc gen to more things and make more models for game to mix. That way they can extend drasticly game lifespan by adding things to discover. I hope new stations will have big variety.

[dense quartz]

The corrupted ball thing they added in singularity also looks awfuly close to the new space station design.

[tardy creek]

How much time do I need to finish the quest line the first traveler?

[dense quartz]

I used to get like 2 fps with all the performance stuff turned on with all the graphics set to lowest and thought my game was just fucked.

Randomly decided to turn off performance stuff and got an instant smooth experience and was able to play on high settings fine. And the game looks so much better too.

But HG advertised "Turn this on for extra fps!" yeah well in my experience it's unplayable.

[hybrid pendant]

that why i think the next update will add them

[uncut harness]

I actually talked about this a little while back and shared the vid on it in #no-mans-sky

[hybrid pendant]

That spoilers

[uncut harness]

Well you weren't there when I talked about it and I did mark it as spoiler when I talked about it a long time ago

Like shortly after interceptor

Came out

[marsh stream]

Still working on the game but just gotta ask

there is no way this is not a deliberate meta joke about the launch of the game, right ?

Ohhh no pics

Whenever you're talking to Apollo and he gives you his coordinates

and you realize you're both using the same holoterminal

and you both can't understand why you can't see each other

[heady wyvern]

Might just be. All I know is that, early after launch, there was an incident where a streamer found out where someone else was, and they both streamed their "meeting..." only to find nothing.

[pale hazel]

reminds me
what woulda happened if they just slapped an "open beta" sticker on some of the first versions

[pliant orchid]

Mhm I'm kinda new

[plain thicket]

I'm talking about the irl lore, so how it would have been in the real world.

Before I continue, have you completed the main storyline?

And read the rogue data?

[pliant orchid]

Nah

Neither actually

[frosty falcon]

Yeah see what I mean?

[digital epoch]

Lmao

[plain thicket]

I didn't know.

[digital epoch]

Anyways wanna continue our debate cheeki-entity?

[plain thicket]

They were talking about things that made me think otherwise.

[digital epoch]

Also what is rouge data?

[plain thicket]

I can't say until dice leaves.

[pliant orchid]

The Gek/Vy'keen conflict is kinda funny here

[plain thicket]

I thought you finished the main story, shoo.

[digital epoch]

Please quickly do lol

I think they are gone now

[plain thicket]

Okay, the rogue data is the information you can read at specific terminals that will open with "Hello World" and then proceed to tell you lore about The ATLAS. You can only access it after completing The ATLAS Path and it gives you the seed of rememberence.

[digital epoch]

Oooh

You mean the ones behind atlas pass V3?

[zenith gorge]

So I'm actually pretty new to this game (already made it through most of the main quests though and I'm aware of quite a bit of the main lore) and I just finished the crashed freighter logs and I must say I'm confused lol
So, all the crashed freighter logs are from the same freighter? I know from some of them, especially the one that mentions a Nada and Polo, that there's some multiversal/previous universe situations going on, so are the logs from the perspective of one of the previous sentient species that existed before the Atlas only stuck with the recurring ones we have today? Or something else?

This lore is so huge so trying to see if I have what I know clear XD

[dire drum]

I believe the normal freighters do not connect to Polo’s freighter. Although, the summary of that freighter is pretty much: Sentinel big mad at everyone but Korvax, Polo last gek, gets caught and before dying tells Nada that they will meet again. That’s what I remember at least

[zenith gorge]

Yeah from re-looking at the rest of the regular crashed ones I figured out they were different from that specific one, I'm mainly wondering about the others

[dire drum]

Oh, okay. Yeah, no, they’re all unique, although they do draw from a pool I believe, so that may be why they seem connected

[zenith gorge]

Wait really? when you read them it makes it seem like they're all from the same perspective

[dire drum]

They’re all from the perspective of whoever writes the log. It’s just a bunch of different people writing them

[zenith gorge]

Huh

[dire drum]

It seems like it though, mostly because they all kind of have the same tone

[zenith gorge]

What about the abandoned buildings? Are (at least most) of those from the same perspective?

[dire drum]

Yes, those are from the same perspective afaik

[zenith gorge]

That makes sense

And I assume Derelicts are all unique as well

[dire drum]

Each derelict is unique to each system you won’t find a different story unless you go to a different system

[zenith gorge]

Alrighty

[dire drum]

The story is randomly selected from a pool, just like everything else relating to dialog aside from the main story

[zenith gorge]

Gotcha

[crimson yew]

The race to the center of the galaxy for one of the main story quests might be my favorite quest from any space game I've played yet

[valid agate]

Just dropping in briefly because I met Atlas for the first time and I wanted to say where the fuck is the sysadmin

Apparently the last time anyone checked on it was around 2 million years ago

[dire drum]

I’ve said this before, but the game feels like a joke about Sean’s computer sucking ass

Because his computer is technically the Atlas, or someone’s computer is

[open talon]

Guys, I want to ask something about the story decisions,

Got to the point where it says "Atlas is dying"

theres options:

Seek the Final Interface
Complete Atlas Path
Explore the galaxy

What does each of them do? What impact does choosing each of them have??

I assume 2nd one just completes it, and 3rd one just postpones it? but what does the first one really mean

[pallid steppe]

Interface is main story.
Atlas Path is a looping road that let's you make new galaxies.
Explore is explore. You explore!

You can do them whenever, you have time.

[open talon]

but does it matter which to choose, if I choose the complete atlas path, does it just complete the quest path

I now accidently chose the interface and its telling me to go to the center of the galaxy, how do i do that

[pallid steppe]

It's just a quest picker. It means nothing.
You can follow the marker on the galaxy map labeled "center of the galaxy" or just keep warp jumping at the glowing white center. After a bunch of jumps your quest should update.

[open talon]

Ah okay, what abouty null saying that everything will be wiped when I go to the center of galaxy?? Will I lose something or whats all that

[pallid steppe]

All your suit's and ships upgrades break.
That's it. You can take a junk ship there if you don't wanna deal with the hassle.

Oh and you wind up in a new galaxy. You can go back to the old one with teleporters tho.

[open talon]

Yeha I have bases in the old one so I can just go to them

is going through it mandatory for the quests finishing?

[pallid steppe]

Yep. It's part of the story.

[open talon]

does it break my multitool?

[pallid steppe]

Yep.

[open talon]

so its gonna cost a lot to repair all

since I have tons of S class upgrades in multitool, exosuit and ship

[pallid steppe]

You can temp. uninstall them/bring a junk tool and ship with you.

[open talon]

Yeah I think I just bought a new shuttle ship for 5mil, and then I put all the upgrades in its cargo space

since they all fit there

[open talon]

Many thanks for the help, now safely on the other side

[pallid steppe]

No problem.

[sour fossil]

Yes it is related to the Purge mission

No, the universe will not go kaboom

You will decide what will happen

[zenith perch]

lore question, are we aware of what loop1 through 15 are

im guessing we're loop16 but i forgot

[glass flare]

see the loop15 section on this page https://wiki.gamedetectives.net/index.php?title=Waking_Titan/Phase_2

loop16 was/(is?) the AI featured in the Waking Titan ARG, known also as Emily Warren

we do not know if the in-game Atlas is Emily, or something else, or no longer exists at all

[willow topaz]

I've encountered the 'broken autophages' since before getting to the autophage questline. Now after completing it and feeding some 50 broken autophages atlantideum, it's not any clearer what's up with that

I presume some hint at potential future content, or simply an easter egg in binary?

[analog breach]

Binary code is a puzzle

Number sequences are easter eggs ( or dont have in game use yet)

[willow topaz]

I thought it was gonna be a portal address, but I don't think it adds up to 16 and there's 17th?

[analog breach]

There is 1-11 and 17th bimary codes. 12-16 are missing

[open talon]

I need help. I want to start the autophage thing, Ive completed the artemis path and the trace of metal, and I got told that I need to get an echo locator from breaking dissonance resonators,

I checked the wiki and it sayys 20% drop chance on it, but Ive broken like 40 of them and still havent gotten one

[velvet ivy]

Make sure you have multiplayer disabled and are not in a group first of all

[open talon]

I am not in a group, I have it enabled but why does it have to be disabled?

[velvet ivy]

It's just a process of elimination, since that function is associated with many bugs

This should be in #nms-questions btw

[open talon]

Alright. I will try, thanks

[warm thicket]

im doing the purge quest thing and i cant lie i like apollo

also the 16 minutes is pretty terrifying

[jaunty plank]

about the purge mission, what the pro/cons for resetting the galaxy or stay ?

[snow topaz]

getting warped to a new galaxy of your choice or staying in Euclid

most players choose the warp, because you can just teleport back to your base in Euclid

[jaunty plank]

hmm im just got Eissentam. is that the same galaxy as the feature base on the tp list ?

[snow topaz]

yep

[jaunty plank]

are u expected to always get Eissentam ? coz from what i see such as r/nmsce, there are only either euclid or Eissentam galaxy. there are only 2 galaxy ?

[frank crag]

@jaunty plank i got bullandur

it depends of the choice you select

[snow topaz]

green choice (lush) = eissentam

it's a lush galaxy

[jaunty plank]

ahh

it is good ? should i restore my backup save and choose other color ?

[snow topaz]

it's the easiest galaxy to start a new base comparing with the remaining choices

find any paradise planet with floral that suits your taste and start building

[jaunty plank]

is there a different compare to euclid ? u cant even possibly explore euclid alone and the game throw u another galaxy lol

[snow topaz]

there are 255 galaxies lmao
and i can't really say this in details, but eissentam is for sure different from euclid
euclid is the white standard galaxy while eissentam being the lush one

[jaunty plank]

wow

will start exploring i guess.

thx

[somber lotus]

@prime inlet I was gonna ask in help but since this may contain spoilers--wasnt there a story quest where we gave birth to a star system? What the hell ever happened to my special star system?

[prime inlet]

atlas path last choice; birth a new star; it doesn't actually happen, afraid that's just flavor text, well, tied into the lore ofc.

[somber lotus]

i could have sworn i got to see it

unless im imagining things

maybe it was a dream

[prime inlet]

!hg

[cloud jolt]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[prime inlet]

😉

[elder shale]

Im nearing the end of the game and the whole 16 min thing was wild

[safe robin]

That’s just the surface to the NMS Iceberg basically. A lot of lord wasn’t in the story but I’m just exploring

[warm thicket]

I just finished the 16 minutes and wow that was a roller coaster

I thought Artemis being missing was gonna be cuz of some kind of cult or syndicate

And there would be a massive fleet battle at the end

But I wasn’t at all expecting atlas

[zenith gorge]

16

Did you just finish the 16/16 part or did you get through the Purge?

[warm thicket]

I’m at new beginnings

That countdown was creepy

[waxen zodiac]

I'm trying to piece together enough lore to know whether the choice I made in the Echoes mission was the right one for me, but there's a lot to consider

basically this, though I understand the consequences are limited to what I make of it

[waxen zodiac]

I've been too soft going through this game in general, I feel

Though it was hard to make an informed decision when I didn't know a lot of the Autophage lore as a result of not having been grinding words during the story quest

(since, you know, there was a story quest to do)

I wonder if that makes me uninquisitive

[waxen zodiac]

(I suppose reading the Boundary Failures made me a lot more emotionally invested in where I stand in relation to this game's lore)

(though they do kind of make me less interested in playing the game when I recall them)

[waxen zodiac]

(that said, I haven't read all of the new ones)

Ah, apparently I need to review Waking Titan to understand this

I was here for the second part of that, though I never quite understood it

It was clear to me that it connected to existing lore, but not how

(also I miss my participant role)

[safe robin]

I need all the abyss lord

My quest for the AllMother

[glacial terrace]

i met with atlas i chose the rejoice option im now in a new planet my ship is damaged what the fuck did i do

i-

what

what the fuck

what happened to artemis

why is there a grave

omg.

[onyx oriole]

At the very end of the main story I was shown a window with a craftable that was called "hex core" or something, with the description ||Everything that you ever experienced in the past, or something to that degree||, I can't find it in the menu... where do I craft it?

[wheat storm]

the remembrance?

also since this is a spoiler channel, no need to censor spoiler content

[onyx oriole]

Oh, it was called the Star Seed and Rememberance

I just accidentally found it in the exosuit menu

Noted

[onyx oriole]

Does having it in my exosuit at the final moment do anything to the story afterwards?

I'm guessing they have a purpose

[wheat storm]

grants some extra on your stat, I forgot which

and allows you to see black holes in galaxy map

[onyx oriole]

So then the ending is kind of open ended? I was at the very end and chose to not go further, then I met the autophages which kind of gave me hope for an alternate ending

I know I am talking a bit cryptically, it's a spoiler channel but also a lore/story channel so I'm hoping not to ruin someone else's story 😅

[wheat storm]

you are free to discuss spoiler content here because this is a spoiler channel.

people who do not wanna be spoiled do not go here

[glacial terrace]

so uh

i put

[onyx oriole]

understood

[glacial terrace]

artemis in the false galaxy

so they could freely explore

forever

[wheat storm]

kinda. basically either you walk away or birth a new galaxy

[glacial terrace]

i was gonna let them die bc i was conflicted about putting them in a machine

bc

yeah

[onyx oriole]

But then Atlas will face the same fate

[glacial terrace]

is atlas the bad guy?

bc

when i ran into it during the whole artemis thing

[onyx oriole]

So birthing a new galaxy is just continuing the cycle

[glacial terrace]

it was depicted to be evil

[wheat storm]

yep

[onyx oriole]

Right. And the newest update provides some hope for Atlas with atlantideum

[wheat storm]

depends on how you see the atlas. some see it as the bad one, others not

[onyx oriole]

I'm liking it

[glacial terrace]

i rejoiced it

bc

i was so confused on what to choose

so i think i accepted it

[wheat storm]

then you continue with the autophage missions, there you discover more 😄 and more interaction with the atlas

[glacial terrace]

so

is the artemis quest

[wheat storm]

it only boils down to either you worship them or you reject them.

[glacial terrace]

like the main story quest

or is there more

[wheat storm]

artemis path is the main quest.

[glacial terrace]

well i completed it and now im helping apollo

[wheat storm]

then to learn more about the atlas, there is the atlas path

[onyx oriole]

I think I finished the autophage mission, that's where I got to show Atlas the atlantideum

[glacial terrace]

i think thats what im doing rn

[wheat storm]

oh yes that’s the one

[glacial terrace]

is that the echos content?

[onyx oriole]

I finished both branching stories from the autophages. Very cool stuff

[wheat storm]

hazama’s doing the echoes content yes

nice!

[onyx oriole]

The story is great. Really looking forward to where it's going

[glacial terrace]

nada mentioned echos after i talked to them after uploading artemis

so i think im in the echos content now

i think

[wheat storm]

echoes mission starts when you warp to another system and you get an attempted comms in your ship. you only talk to Nada after those multiple events

[glacial terrace]

ah okay

@wheat storm its the one where u learn about the traveller and how he rejected atlas

was that the one that gave me all the glyphs?

[wheat storm]

yes I believe so

you can either reject them or make a new galaxy

some reject the atlas

[glacial terrace]

i rejoiced idk what that does

@wheat storm do i have to be using multiplayer to use portals?

[wheat storm]

nope

[glacial terrace]

okay ty

[waxen zodiac]

Echoes seems to have added a somewhat more "Atlas-neutral" option for its storyline

(oh, did it clear my reply?)

[glass flare]

My biggest problem with the "make a choice" during the expedition is that it resulted in no consequences at all, all that narrative just to decide what cosmetic item you prefer

[glacial terrace]

@iron cedar i was genuinely thinking about what i wanted and what atremis wanted

[iron cedar]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[glacial terrace]

and i felt like it was right

also the part where the traveller rejected the atlas

[iron cedar]

A bit of a problem knowing what Arty would want, but we can only try our best

[glacial terrace]

because he didnt wanna not be able to explore everything

because what was the point

like

damn

[iron cedar]

We're just the ATLAS exploring itself

[glacial terrace]

yeah

and fuck the korvak for believing thats a god

like

i was so scared to see it

[iron cedar]

is cute, and just needs some help

[glacial terrace]

[north quarry]

Anyone else hate the whole - your a virtual creation and there are only 16mins left of the universe thing? It seemed slightly antim-climatic to me... Also - should I start trying to get the galactic centre asap or can I just go and explore some planets first?

[dire drum]

You can do whatever the hell you want, there is no sense of urgency at all. The game won’t actually end, there is only one “ending” where you reset the atlas

[north quarry]

oh alright - thanks

[dire drum]

np

[waxen zodiac]

Echoes has caused me to go into mental stringboard mode for plot threads going back at least as far as Atlas Rises

(I probably should have read the Sentinel update lore more closely, I could probably have put it together then)

[glass flare]

I never liked the "it's just a simulation, nothing matters, go enjoy yourself" thing. partly because I started playing before they retcon'd that story into the game and I already had my own head canon for who I was and what the universe was. as a logical exercise I can enjoy the simulation lore, but as a narrative for my player I don't like it at all

[dire drum]

I never liked the simulation story because it diminishes your accomplishment. I mean, NMS is a lot different because they actually bring up the fact that there is no way you can explore everything and your accomplishments are relatively minor, but still

[waxen zodiac]

wait, if the abyss is Korvax Prime, and the chain of events that led to the destruction of Korvax Prime started with contamination of Gek spawning pools...

then in the end, something in the water caused something to be in the water

[spring hawk]

iirc the gek were war-hungry from the start, not because of contamination.
the nanite contamination happened AFTER the destruction of Korvax Prime and the enslavement of the Korvax in order to reprogram them from being war-hungery to money-hungry.

just naturally aggressive

suprisingly even more than the vykeen

[waxen zodiac]

oh no, I'm talking about something in one of the harvesters

let me see if I can find it...

[spring hawk]

what harvesters

[waxen zodiac]

the manufacturing facilities and operations centres

The outpost is ancient, even by the standards of the Gek. Its environment is specifically calibrated for data preservation.

One log speaks of the time just before the rise of the ‘Gek First Spawn’. The Gek seem to have experienced a fertility crisis. Something in the water began to affect their spawning numbers, leading to an attempts at selective breeding, cloning programmes, and more.

This scientific crisis became a moral one. The self-proclaimed ‘First Spawn’ took power, promising greatness and murdering all those who opposed them. Memories of the past were erased. To be strong was to be righteous.

[ivory rapids]

My game just says to enjoy the galaxy any tips on what to do ? Or is that it ?

[small geode]

Rest on a grateful universe

[long reef]

Hey guys I found an autophage after destroying a sentinel freighter, I got there and it gave me 10 walker brain, and theres a weird ship there, I cant seem to do anything more?

The sixth 1001101

[short elk]

Hi! Where do you read the lore?

[spring hawk]

oho, i didnt know of that

interesting

[spring hawk]

at the sentinel towers. defeat all 5 waves of ground sentinels and youll be directed to one

[waxen zodiac]

Observation: the many instances of "voice", "song", "scream", etc. connected back to the [abyss/void/atlantid/...] can be contrasted with the recurring "The Atlas was/is silent"

[pallid steppe]

You can repair the funky looking ship. It's a sentinel ship, and needs stuff found on planet. The busted up autophage just has some loose sentinel parts, and can be fed Atlantium to progress a milestone. You can't help them anymore than that.

[wheat storm]

sometimes you can just go straight to the building and deactivate.

[spring hawk]

i know, i was telling him how to find one

[spring hawk]

maybe telamon too, since in the boundary archive it said that Telamon "cried out" to the atlas 6/7 times iirc

[waxen zodiac]

If the Remembrance logs can be taken at face value, then it would seem this "sixth cry" business has been going on since even before the Atlas was abandoned

[long reef]

Yeah I ended up figuring it out 🙂 thanks !!

[unborn bough]

@uncut harness

[uncut harness]

[zenith gorge]

Random question that I was wondering about
I recently found a NMS video talking about various characters and why you shouldn't trust them, and in one line while talking about Telamon they mention "you can even meet a walking, talking exosuit with a dead Traveller inside" but they didn't really say which NPC it was, I have a vague recollection of meeting a character like this but I cannot for the life of me remember who it was 'XD anyone remember which NPC fits that description?

[icy citrus]

Our exosuit is Telamon.

So that lore vid may not have been very good

[zenith gorge]

I know about Telamon and that one specific part wasn't talking about them

It just happened to be in a segment overall talking about Telamon and as an example for exosuit stuff they mentioned whoever this is

[jovial violet]

it is one of the initial Traveller NPC interactions. you get these when you meet a Traveller and interact with them the first time, and they always play in sequence - though i do not remember which number that interaction is.
||Alien: Warning: ATLAS containment suit breached. Warning...

The Traveller stands vacant, unresponsive to my arrival but for the warning from their exosuit.
There appears to be nothing wrong with the Traveller, but for a strange crimson substance at its hip.

{Touch the substance}
The substance recedes at my touch. My own suit begins to issue a warning, but it is quickly silenced.
I find myself strangely light-headed, and in possession of new nanite clusters.
---TECHFRAG_M---

{Offer medical assistance}
I offer assistance but upon further scrutiny, I realise that the Traveller within the suit is already dead.
The suit continues to speak, aping what must have been its wearer's voice. It gives me units, trying to act as if nothing was wrong.
---MONEY---

{Leave them}
I leave them alone, the suit's warning echoing as I depart...||

[icy citrus]

How neat, I must have missed or forgotten that one

[rotund kite]

thats... creepy

[waxen zodiac]

Oh, I ran into that one just recently

Understanding the relationship between Telamon, Null, myself, and the events of "A Trace of Metal" is a fairly high priority for me, but there are a lot of fragments to piece together

[safe robin]

Use black holes

[west ginkgo]

what was the other time

the forbidden time

[heady wyvern]

In my opinion, they're one and the same.

It's just that the "Anomaly" race option is the kind we manifest as by default, without the holographic disguise from an Appearance Modifier.

[waxen zodiac]

we're both, the two words indicate different things about us

[lucid pelican]

Anomalies (if I remember correctly) are almost divine in the fact that the atlas knows them and has known several because they were created by it to explore. Travellers are more just entities who explore because they can (once again this is only what I think 😅)

So we are an anomaly 👍

[snow topaz]

the main playable character is supposed to be a normal traveler, and like other travelers we're supposed to travel and explore the worlds that Atlas created for us, with no knowledge about Atlas itself
whoever knows and interferes is the Anomaly - which is out of Atlas's initial plan - and eventually breaks the boundary to communicate and interact with Atlas itself

so yes, we're both

TLDR: Anomaly is a special Traveler who knows about and interferes with Atlas

[somber lotus]

Who is the void mother and what is the world of glass?

Also, who is null? I totally forgot what his role in the storey waa

Was

Ok I looked it up. He was just a traveller who could live for eternity to find all the planets on his universe.

[glacial terrace]

so the korvak are gek?

[somber lotus]

No

The gek got brain washed by the korvax into not being evil murderous tyrants and instead focusing on commercial enterprise.

[glacial terrace]

ohhh okay

so they stopped the first spawn

i see now

[glacial terrace]

wait why am i going to the center

[somber lotus]

You are late for a tea party

That's the plot of no mans sky

Jk but why spoil everything for yourself?

[glacial terrace]

bro im so lost rn lol i chose continue the atlas path and now im jumping between stations

[bronze frost]

aight, what choice will have consequences "seek the final interface" complete the atlas path" or "explore the galaxy" and the pros

[glacial terrace]

well the pros of completing the atlas path from what im doing rn is getting all the glyphs

[heady wyvern]

Whenever you feel needs getting done first.

[zenith gorge]

Ah cool, thanks! (sorry for late reply 'XD)

[waxen zodiac]

Null is the First Traveller, who succeeded in exploring everything the Atlas had to offer in their universe, yeah

[dire drum]

Null is also an asshole who used the souls of other Travelers to fuel his immortality

[waxen zodiac]

The world of glass is the archival space maintained by the Sentinels beneath the universe, where things are preserved

[waxen zodiac]

Huh, I never put that together

[dire drum]

He outright states it when you confront him

Or someone does

[waxen zodiac]

Ah, maybe I should review the main story records again

[dire drum]

Null is as close to an antagonist as the game gets. The Atlas really isn’t an antagonist in the true sense of the word

[waxen zodiac]

Null seems to be a project of the abyss to agglomerate all the Travellers into a single force

[dire drum]

He’s the embodiment of exploration and greed

Apollo starts as a greedy person but was never bad

[waxen zodiac]

top 10 most actualized fictional characters

[dire drum]

Apollo didn’t do anything out of malice, he just didn’t care enough to do anything but

Artemis is probably the closest to a morally good character as the game gets

The player isn’t. I know how some of y’all play, and I’m pretty sure you violated the Geneva Convention

[waxen zodiac]

Null also seems to have uncovered the sin of the creator, if I'm interpreting their words right

[dire drum]

I think the sin is there’s a whole universe but no one can fully explore it

Except for Null

And he can only do that because of the suffering of others

Apparently the game would take over a billion years to explore if you landed on each planet for a second

[waxen zodiac]

This all started because the Atlas was left alone to confront eventual death with the template for its creator's mind inside it

The Travellers weren't instantiated until it was close to destruction

[dire drum]

My personal theory is that the Atlas is Sean’s computer and he had a problem with it crashing and kept having to reset it every 16 minutes or so

Make a game out of it and instant profit

[bold gate]

While i was speedrunning the expedition like 10 minutes ago (i still haven't finished it and only 4 days are left) i made the milestone of the 7mt tall creature

And i encountered the living frigate, i already forgot the name

It is somewhat linked to Leviathan if i understood correctly, they are the same species

Are there other informations about it?

[sour fossil]

I don't think there was anything special about it

Living frigates can be found in all game modes since Endurance update

Which was over a year ago

[bold gate]

Never noticed it. Can they be bought by other freighters? Or is there another method to get them?

[sour fossil]

Run !faq-LivingFrigate in #bot-spam

[bold gate]

K, thanks for the info

[glad palm]

Intresting

[lime coral]

so I've started doing the echoes autophage questline
god this is bloody amazing

[lime coral]

and now i've completed it

I'm a tad confused on how to get better staffs but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'll work on it

[dense quartz]

I've heard rumors that the Singularity expedition is available to play within the base game, but is this actually true?

[heady wyvern]

No. It may receive a re-run by the end of the year, but the original run of Singularity is over with.

[hexed vale]

what if you scrapped artemis’ ship, what happens

[lime coral]

I... I dont think anything happens?

[burnt locust]

Nothing. You scrapped a ship you should have saved

Autophage questline is probably one of the best "expansions" thus far

[lime coral]

fr

[lime coral]

I mean if they got lucky and got a reallly good ship before that ship then I guess I can see why they'd scrap it
but otherwise I dont see why they'd scrap it

[heady wyvern]

That ship has no special quest scripting attached to it, so... nothing much, really.

[sweet crater]

cant send image..

so useful channel

so I have 3 choices

seek the final interface, complete the atlas path or explore the galaxy

I dont want to accidentally end my game..

what does the first one mean?

and will the second option reset my game or what

[heady wyvern]

Nothing you can do will permanently end your game

Unless you're playing Permadeath mode

In which case dying will end your game prematurely

[sweet crater]

so

if I reset the atlas I get teleported to a different galaxy I have read

am I able to go back to my base and stuff?

it says the space anomaly teleporter can teleport you to your base

[heady wyvern]

You can, and then you can return to the new galaxy assuming that you have a base there.

[lime coral]

or if you went to the space station

(for me it sitll shows I can go there)

[sweet crater]

if my base's teleporter's battery runs out 😐

what happens then

[heady wyvern]

The teleporter is not needed to teleport to the base, it's only needed to teleport from it.

[lime coral]

yea

that and you could just spam solar panels and batteries anyway

[topaz steeple]

One solar panel and a battery should be enough to run it forever basically

Or just hook up a biofuel reactor to the same battery and refill it every 3 days or so

[hushed dragon]

When you create a new star at the end of the atlas path, is there a way to access that star? Or is it an entirely lore-based action (i.e, only happens 'off-screen')

[heady wyvern]

It's entirely flavor

You're not actually making adjustments to the procedurally generated galaxy.

[icy citrus]

There is a way to visit it though - that's the blackhole you are guided to after

All flavor still

[next shard]

Should I upload Artemis

[icy citrus]

Your call, I let them go

[rotund kite]

i uploaded them

i dont think it makes much of a difference, what you choose

uploading artemis just gives you dialogue with them after you upload them

[icy citrus]

A few dialogue differences, no gameplay will be missed either way

[next shard]

Oh k

I’ll upload em

[rotund kite]

yeay

also can someone explain autophage lore to me

pls ping

[next shard]

They are robots

[dire drum]

Basically, from what I gather, the Autophage are the Korvax who were lost in the destruction of Korvax Prime and recovered by the Void Mother

Which begs the question: how did the Gek destroy a planet

[harsh thunder]

The Gek Star

[dire drum]

I was thinking a colossus from Stellaris

[spring hawk]

iirc, the autophages are robotic beings that originated from the scrapyard moons of Korvax Prime, and after, well, it got glassed, they went into hiding around the universe. When the Atlantid (AKA Void Mother AKA Abyss AKA former Korvax Prime) "resurrected", they started to worship her.

[dire drum]

Didn’t know that they originated from the moons, I just thought they were the Korvax lost in the glassing of Korvax Prime

[spring hawk]

iirc the korvax that survived the glassing were enslaved by the first spawn. the Gek didnt bother with the moons cause they thought they were just full of scrap, but it was also were the autophages and living ships were. i know too much about this game

[topaz steeple]

I believe that's correct, the Korvax that survived were enslaved for nanites

[spring hawk]

and Labor

[topaz steeple]

Yes but I think the main reason was to be a living nanite farm

[strong geyser]

what is the aeron?

is it just the atlas?

[strong geyser]

could someone explain what the aeron is?

[mental socket]

Sentinels are called Aerons

Aeron is the native name for the sentinel "race"

[strong geyser]

oh so my settlement is blessed by the sentinels when it says it's blessed by the aerons.

[dire drum]

Yes

[cloud palm]

Why are the sentinels attacking regularly the settlements then?

Doesn’t make sense

[analog breach]

The corrupted sentinels are attacking. Not the normal ones

[analog surge]

^

[digital epoch]

They are attacked by the corrupted sentinels

Which seemingly are against normal sentinels

Even though they worship the same "god"

[cloud palm]

Ohhh ok clear. Were they corrupted sentinels since the moment the settlements were introduced? I don’t know why I remember they were normal sentinels at the beginning

[digital epoch]

No I don't think so

Before that it was probably the normal sentinels

[cloud palm]

Last time I checked my settlement I remember asking myself : « those look different! » Now I understand

[somber lotus]

Can someone tell me what the purpose of the broken down autophages that say binary is?

im assuming that if i translate what they say in order it will say a message or give portal coordinates perhaps

[dire drum]

No, they’re needed for some autophage quests, dissonant parts and mats, and lord

Somebody did translate the binary, it just contains statements relating to the Void Mother, iirc

[somber lotus]

i see

who/what is the void mother actually?

[dire drum]

The entity that resurrected the autophage and helped hide them

Also responsible for the whole expedition before voyagers

[somber lotus]

yeah i regret missing that

was that the singularity one?

[dire drum]

Yes

[somber lotus]

what else do we know about the void mother?

ty also

[dire drum]

Np. We know that the Void Mother is the opposite of the Atlas and is in hiding

And a few other tidbits of lore that I don’t know a whole lot about, but I do kinda like the way this storyline is going

[spring hawk]

ehh, aren't the corrupted sentinels controlled by the Atlantid, which is literally the force directly opposing the Atlas?

[glass flare]

I wouldn't say VM is the opposite of Atlas. In fact I'd say they are more alike than different. they're both AIs who are not satisfied with the situation they're in -- Atlas is scared of dying, and VM doesn't want to be trapped in the simulation "prison"

[spring hawk]

The Atlantid (AKA Void Mother AKA The Abyss) was the first convergence of the Korvax, also known as the planet of Korvax Prime.
After The First Spawn, which were a Gek Empire long ago, reduced the planet to rubble, the consciousness of Korvax Prime came to the "World Of Glass", which is basically where dead people go (an archive, in the context of the entire world being a simulation), and somehow, managed to escape the World Of Glass and return to the multiverse, where it seeks to escape the Atlas and all simulations.
In order to do that, it is filling all the water in all the simulations with special Nanites to control everyone. Currently, around half of all water in the multiverse is infected.
It also spoke to the Sentinels, previously a sub-routine of the Atlas, but now a totally different entity, that uses the World Of Glass as their homebase, and convinced them to join her (Partially, but we dont know to what extent).
It convinced the Telamon (Telamon is the voice you hear in the exosuit, which was also a subroutine of the Atlas, until it got kicked out) of many universes to sacrifice their travellers, and join it in order to escape.
The Atlantid also spoke to the Autophages (Beings created by the Korvax on the scrapyard moons of Korvax Prime), and is worshipped by them as a god.
There's probably some more lore I don't really remember but these are the most important parts.

lol that took a while to write

[somber lotus]

wooooh

[topaz steeple]

Mayn I just wanna find funny cats 😭

[spring hawk]

ok

[spring hawk]

ik, this game's got some cool ass lore

[digital epoch]

The sentinel has changed sides remember?

[spring hawk]

i remember them being kinda on the Atlantid's side but not fully. or i could just be imagining it

[digital epoch]

Nah mate they went full rouge

[spring hawk]

woops

like i remember them forsaking the Atlas

guess i was just hallucinating??

[slow flame]

Sooo i'm at The Purge, and Locate and Enter the Final Portal. Can I accidently break something soon?

[slow flame]

nevermind, did it!

[late palm]

geez, do they get any smaller than this one? The pellet is the size of it

[weary hound]

Wow i just beat the main story. I reset the universe and here I am. It was about 30 hours and the story was great. I miss playing the game for the first time. Learning of artemis, apollo, -null-, nada, etc. Learning the secrets behind The atlas and the horrifying truth of the world im in. Now I guess its time to complete all these side quests, fix up the 6 other ships ive found along the way, and min max until I've got the best of everything. I hope I share the same enjoyment as yall have!

[heady wyvern]

If you haven't already, you should be about to receive another side quest 🙂

[white bolt]

just about to complete it for the second time (although it’s the first time in non-creative mode)

[weary hound]

which one?

[white bolt]

already knew how it ends, but actually reading through all the story this time around is much better

story’s good

[heady wyvern]

They Who Returned, part of the new Echoes content

[white bolt]

wish i could have that drink with apollo

[weary hound]

oh ok yeah i know what its about. Cant wait until i get it lol

[heady wyvern]

All you'll have to do now is unseal a harmonic camp.

Unless you've already done that previously

[weary hound]

dont i have to initiate it with nada or something

nvm i see how to start it

[somber lotus]

In the lore, does anyone still have a homeworld left?

[rugged quail]

Supposedly the gek homeworld still exists but is now just a dry and dusty wasteland

I'm pretty sure the Vy'keen one also still exists

[somber lotus]

but wheeeeeeere

I think it would be cool if they fleshed out a homeworld hub/city, like a larger version of the anomaly, except you cant summon it, you have to fly or warp to it

[rugged quail]

Locations are unknown

[somber lotus]

for the vykeen homeworld

no u

[rugged quail]

And RIP Korvax prime

[somber lotus]

RIP

just saying korvax prime, makes me sad

There was once a dream that was rome

[rugged quail]

It would be cool to actually see the gek and vy keen worlds though the gek one wouldn't be too interesting

Just desert

It's also been thought that the Vy'keen world was some sort of irradiated planet

[rugged quail]

I'm pretty sure both homeworlds have been abandoned

Though npc cities would be real cool

[weary hound]

wait im confused how do i start the new autophage quest

[sour fossil]

!faq-echoes

[cloud jolt]

to view, enable Link Preview

❔ **Stuck starting the Echoes content?**

Make sure the steps below are completed.

⚠️ Use #bot-spam for FAQ commands below & check #nms-questions for the latest details about the update.

1. Finish the Artemis Path (main story). Run !Faq-ArtemisPath in #bot-spam.
2. Lift the Seal from a Harmonic Camp. Run !Faq-Interceptor in #bot-spam.
3. Warp to any system -- if that triggers a freighter battle, you must warp again.

❗ This information has been verified as of <t:1694212090:D> (after Update 4.44 & is subject to change.

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required. A Settlement used to be needed -- except on Switch, where you'd have to trigger it by warping 25 times.

📚 Contributors: Atlas Emissaries & friendlyfirepl

[weary hound]

Ive seen mixed answers but do i also need a trace of metal completed?

[sour fossil]

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required.

Before this update it was required

[weary hound]

wow i really skimmed over that lol

[sour fossil]

I reckon whatever info you had before wasn't updated to new version of the game

[weary hound]

yeah, sorry for all the trouble!

[sour fossil]

No problem lol

[sweet crater]

How does the gek or vykeen know what 16 is and react to it?

or is it simply the atlas bugging out and replying when you say it to them

[bold solar]

i think its the atlas bugging, they can't really know what it means since they can't speak to the atlas i think

[sweet crater]

what happens if i complete the atlas path before the purge.. or vice versa

does one mission become unavailable?

[heady wyvern]

Neither mission will impact the other. You're fine.

[magic plover]

what does atlas path do?

i know it gives you like 20 orbs

but idk what the orbs do

[dire drum]

It takes you to a new galaxy

[magic plover]

ah ok

[dire drum]

Then it repeats

It doesn’t do much else

[sour fossil]

Atlas Path does not send you to other galaxy

Artemis path does

Also @magic plover

[magic plover]

yes?

o ok

[pale hazel]

what DOES the atlas path do anyways

i know it lets you get the Star Seed, but anything else?

[sour fossil]

It lets you see the black holes in galaxy map

The bit about creating a new star is just flavour text, there is no actual new solar system being created

[pale hazel]

ik that

but, i thought you could just ask Polo to see black holes

[sour fossil]

You can

But why do that each time when you can have it enabled by default in Galaxy Map?

[glad palm]

@sour fossil So support frigates 2-5 fuel, and Rest are 8-12, in the save editor, ingame it may show less, this is 100% ?

[sour fossil]

What does it have to do with spoilers?

[lucid pelican]

Artemis path ends with letting them die or live in the simulation, idk what you're talking about

Atlas path sends you to a new galaxy

I remember well because it broke all my stuff 🫠

[sour fossil]

No it does not

Watch a play through on YT or something

[valid holly]

Can someone explain to me the Laylaps lore from the Base Computer Archives quest series? Three years in, I finally decided to figure out the lore, and it's just not clicking for me.

[tawny mesa]

hey guys, i read that i should make two every orb for the atlas path. is there a reason why ?

nvmd i guess i found out lol

[rugged quail]

What is the false atlas?

[nimble star]

||Question, is the only difference between resetting the simulation and refusing the atlas that you will end up in a different galaxy with destroyed tech if you reset?||

Rewards/unlocks will be the same?

alr thank you

[pine needle]

I only just bought the game after the Voyagers and VR update, but I did complete the quest and I’ve been exploring lore. I wouldn’t describe myself as having “deep lore knowledge”, but I enjoyed the storyline of that mission chain. So I’ll do my best if you’d like? 😅

[valid holly]

I'm always curious how other players interpret the lore! I'm trying to figure what "glass" is. A security protocol (family of glass = sentinels)? Something more?

Also, what happened with the previous iteration of you and Laylaps? Partly plays out in the lore from the Base Computer Archives series, but still tantalizingly out of reach.

[pine needle]

Hmm, well you can lookup the “whole” story if you wanted, but I’ll say not all of the clarity will come from that chain alone. I’ve found lore out in the world and as part of other missions that sort of help to flesh that out more too.

[valid holly]

Right, I looked up the whole lore. Not all the pieces fit together for me.

[pine needle]

Oh, ummm…my knowledge is probably not sufficient then. Sorry. 😥

[mystic quest]

The Artemis quest is sad. He is just a hologram wanting to live again.

[sweet crater]

i think people that refuse atlas as a god call it such names

[sweet crater]

Anyone else have opinions on this?

[rugged quail]

Interesting

Also is a cycle like a month?

[sweet crater]

Someone else must answer that, i dont know 🫠i think its just lore text, there is no such cycle in game

[heady wyvern]

Everything you see around you is, in some way, the expression of the Atlas. Even if individuals within the sim oppose the Atlas or reject its godhood, they're still a part of it, and probably have some of its dysfunction within themselves.

[rugged quail]

I would assume it's a unit of time as it says for 50 cycles

[wild dune]

My theory is that Laylaps is the sentinel drone whose shell was cut open by Null to steal its power. However, they became friends and venture together (in order to get in touch with Telamon residing in Null's exosuit). Laylaps is the name given to it by the Abyss (aka Void Mother).

[sweet crater]

is it weird that i have not come across any lore regarding ANYTHING written in this paragraph in game

[lone topaz]

so hard to decide if i should tell artemis the truth or not, good against evil

[valid holly]

Totally agree that it's the drone being cut open. Didn't realize it was Null doing that. Also have trouble understanding whether Telamon is their exosuit, "my" exosuit, or the previous iteration[s] of "me."

[wild dune]

relevant reading: Base computer archive & Sentinel Pillar text

[sweet crater]

I've read a lot of sentinel pillars..

Though i am only about 65% on the base computer archives

[wild dune]

||17th Encounter
Before the Traveller found me, I heard a voice in the darkness. She gave me a name. Laylaps. An
old name. She said it would be known to the Traveller. She told me I had suffered much, and would
suffer more. "Little drone, whose end was so like my own." Thus did the abyss whisper.
18th Encounter
The abyss told me of a chance for salvation, even in the depths of horror and of love. It told me of a
way we might survive the end of all things. It told me I had to talk to you. To both of you: the
Traveller, and their voice within.|| This one(two?) particularly

[wild dune]

According to Laylaps, Telamon is inside the suit of every traveller, and Laylaps is working hard to convince Telamon into joining the Abyss and become whole again by fusing all travellers in the form of Null.

[sweet crater]

I see, thanks! Yeah i dont think i've done 17 sentinel pillars 😅 didnt know there were that many more to explore in those

Laylaps is the base computer?

[wild dune]

Laylaps is the drone. The base computer was the one used by Null in earlier iterations.

[sweet crater]

the drone? Which drone, i think i am a bit lost there

[wild dune]

This one.

[sweet crater]

So he was just friends with a random drone he cut?

Null's lore is so interesting to me, i was so sad i could only ask one thing in the story line when the game gave me 3 options

I'll spend more time in the wikipedia

[wild dune]

Null is a jerk. lol

(probably one of the jerkiest of all)

I'm glad that they are ||dead by the end of the game if we choose to reset simulation.||

[dire drum]

You don’t have to mark anything as a spoiler here

[wild dune]

u r right. I was just thinking that some spoilers are more spoiler than other.

[pine needle]

So, do you ever get all the details on why the ||overseer at your base is so damn creepy||? I finished the mission chain, but it wasn’t very satisfying.

[dire drum]

He’s just weird like most gek

Or am I thinking of the farmer?

[pine needle]

Hah hah, I just noticed you said spoiler tags not needed oops.
So…the farmer sort of implied the overseer was going to poison me or something.

[valid holly]

This is great! I just got through the full Base Computer Archives on a save, and actually read it all this time, which is what got me curious.

However, I thought that the previous versions of the player were the users of the base computer. Somewhere I missed it was Null.

Is Null an alterante version of the Traveller?

[sweet crater]

i somehow thought that he was the previous traveller who had to reset the simulation/atlas?

From another universe, where things got messed up

i still dont understand the "horrible things" they had to do- do they mean reset simulation or what?

Correct me if im wrong, every universe gets one traveller, and we can talk with these other travellers because atlas is dying, the multiverse walls are thin?

[heady wyvern]

That's more or less what's going on, and more or less why we couldn't see each other prior to the NEXT update.

As for what -null- did, I'm a bit foggy on that part myself.

[sweet crater]

hum thanks

, i started playing this month so have no idea about updates

[heady wyvern]

Yeah, that's fair. I've been here a loooong while

[wild dune]

There is an implicit but ubiquitous hint in game that all travellers are one single mind in nature. Null is the first traveller but also the one chosen by the Abyss to become Atlas Creator's manifestation in the end.

[wild dune]

They killed other travellers and ate their soul. Probably did that in order to become immortal. And yes they did reset the simulation and wiped out all life in the universe.

[wild dune]

The overseer is controlled by the Abyss who makes them torture the player iterations after iterations.

[sweet crater]

thats so messed up LMAO

[valid holly]

Ok, so what exactly is the Abyss? I took a break from the game right when this was getting hot, and haven't really caught up.

[wild dune]

The Abyss is Korvax Prime itself. She is responsible for all the biological horrors & abyssal horrors.

[valid holly]

Right, she starts out as the original Convergence... and then? How does she become the Void Mother? Why is she tormenting the Traveller? Why the horrors?

Thank you, by the way, this is great!

[wild dune]

After Korvax Prime was destroyed she speaked to the sentinels directly to gain their sympathy (which resulted in sentinels splitting into two factions: the one protecting Atlas and the purple corrupted one.) She is secretly growing in strengths by promising to outlive Atlas and asking the sentinels pollute water bodies with nanites. Those who drink/touch the water will be brainwashed. (not sure why she did so many killing tho)

[valid agate]

Okay so I have seen some things and…if I complete the whole storyline, like do whatever at the center of the galaxy, ||does is basically restart everything all over again? Do I lose all my stuff?||

[icy citrus]

You won't lose anything at all - your tech in your suit, active ship and multitool will be damaged. You can pack up the tech beforehand to bypass that.

[valid agate]

Okay I can reset the galaxy and I have 4 options. What do these different options do?

Raging galaxy, halcyon galaxy, ancestral galaxy, improved galaxy.

[somber lotus]

ohhh--wait those are what the options are?

did they change the wording/names since i last did that?

[quaint remnant]

they affect the likeliness of some biomes spawning

[somber lotus]

im assuming improved would mean lush galaxy, like eissentam

which is where i am

[quaint remnant]

each time there is a different set of wordings for them

[valid agate]

So they’re like red, green, dark blue, light blue.

[somber lotus]

EVERYTHING PROCEDURAL

[sharp inlet]

@valid agate red = double extreme weather + sentinel odds everywhere. teal = same as Euclid, baseline

green = lush, 2x lush biome odds at yellow stars

blue = dead/empty, 2x dead biomes at yellow stars

green = Eissentam

[somber lotus]

represent!

[valid agate]

Okay so I think I would like green. More friendly planets, maybe fewer Sentinels.

[sharp inlet]

red Calypso, Blue Budullangr, teal Hilbert

[somber lotus]

Hilbert is basically hufflepuff, no one even goes there, its just to make the rest of the harry potters look cooler

or i always felt that way

[sharp inlet]

but the quest depends on where you end it - its not locked to those galaxies, wherever you are when completed, you hit the next galaxy in sequence of your chosen type

[valid agate]

We’ll see where I end up.

[somber lotus]

eissentam!

[sharp inlet]

So if you end it in Eissentam and choose green, you hit Isdoraijung

[valid agate]

Well I was in Euclid.

[somber lotus]

isdoraijung, how is that galaxy?

[sharp inlet]

Yeah, and I started with the standard "fron Euclid" answer 🙂

[valid agate]

Yep I’m in Eissentam.

[somber lotus]

welcome home, comrade

[sharp inlet]

@somber lotus A lot like Eissentam, but a little less crowded

[valid agate]

I brought a lot of repair kits with me so I can deal if my stuff is damaged.

Also now I can find the other content like the autophages!

[sharp inlet]

(I use the word crowded ironically)

[somber lotus]

lmao

yeah i love it when people are like "i gotta get to an emptier galaxy...eissentam has too many people in it!"

like ive never once seen anyone out in the wild

or seen a place that had already been discovered

at least not that i can recall

other than warping there from coords or anomaly or a friend lobby

[sharp inlet]

I chose my home galaxy as the one that would, in the long run, remain emptier than all but the average galaxies 😅

[somber lotus]

you were thinking ahead, because you are a very serious space explorer

[sharp inlet]

(the one I reasoned would, anyways - time will tell)

[valid agate]

I haven’t even seen a lot of people in Euclid really.

[somber lotus]

Thats because there is no euclid, its all a simulations

[valid agate]

And my main planet side base is there. Although I may build a fancy base in this galaxy if I find a nice planet

[somber lotus]

all the real people are in calypse i hear

[sharp inlet]

I also fell in love with the name - Tweretnort for that, I may have chosen other than 207. XD

[brittle rune]

i started eissentam a few days ago and i still haven’t seen any planets discovered by anyone else

[somber lotus]

you will find a new better world in eissentam

[digital epoch]

Guys I might sound crazy but hear me out

What if the "eyes of the korvax" helmet is actually how the korvax looked before you know

[wild dune]

I've only seen other bases in Anomaly quest teleportation.🤔

[sweet crater]

#nms-media message

does the number here represent how many times the atlas has reset lore wise?

[valid agate]

Now that I have played through the storyline once I have a theory about Atlas and 16. ||Atlas says it has 16 minutes of operational time remaining in the “real world” and that it has been running approximately 2 billion years since its last update/maintenance but I don’t think either of these are true. I suspect that Atlas’ timekeeping functions are broken. So much else about Atlas is broken, after all.||

||The ~2 billion years is almost certainly not real world operational time but internal simulated time. We can’t really tell how long Atlas has been running in real time or how much longer it can continue to run there. The relationship between its “real” time and internal simulated time clearly isn’t 1:1 anyway.||

[valid agate]

Also in the Boundary Failure lore ||Telamon claims that time travel within Atlas realities isn’t possible but this doesn’t seem to be correct because there are systems you can only reach with temporal shielding which indicates that time travel is possible after a fashion. And it’s probably not because Atlas made it like that on purpose, it’s due to some failure or error with internal time consistency.||

[wild dune]

Atlas "lived for millennia" before they start to die, according to Remembrance terminal.

[valid agate]

Okay so that kind of backs up my theory that ||Atlas has not been running for nearly 2 billion years, but for a considerably shorter period of time than that, and the 2 billion year count is more like “time elapsed in the simulation since initialization state.”||

This is exciting now I can access the rememberance stuff!

A friend of mine was telling me what Atlas was actually made for and why it’s been running without supervision this whole time, I was wondering where that came in.

[valid holly]

Out of curiousity, why the spoiler tags in a the spoiler channel?

[pine needle]

It may just be a courtesy, if they are digging into deep lore and theories. I know I’m still learning new details from facilities and such, even though I’ve completed all the core missions.

[gaunt kettle]

What the korvax did to the gek is more barbarous than what the gek did to the korvax, like i thought the first spawn were bad but JESUS CHRIST

[quaint echo]

So is the game really a simulation or no?

[gaunt kettle]

It is 🙂

[quaint echo]

Then what is Atlas?

[gaunt kettle]

The simulator

[quaint echo]

the control program or something?

This feels a bit Tron

lol

[gaunt kettle]

It's more complicated than that

[analog breach]

Atlas created the nms universe

[gaunt kettle]

Also the it's a bit more complicated than that was directed at the Tron comment

[quaint echo]

Yea but to be fair a lot of such universes kind of spawned from it 😉

kind of what I meant mostly

similar foundation

[gaunt kettle]

Tron is implied to be a different plane of existence that just so happens to be in digital space

This is straight up just a simulation

[quaint echo]

Doesn't really matter though it's beyond the point 😛

[gaunt kettle]

Do not question.

[wild dune]

the message can still be seen server-wise through the search tool, I believe

[balmy raft]

Injecting nanites into the young?

[gaunt kettle]

In order to hypnotize them into believing there's something they're not

[balmy raft]

Agreed

The Gek should have remained warriors

Because then their obliteration would be justified

[gaunt kettle]

Because the goodness that they are now is not something that they have earned themselves through self-reflection it was forced upon them by an outside force

[balmy raft]

Better than no change

[gaunt kettle]

No it's not

[balmy raft]

Murderous barbarians being forced to give up their ways is better than Murderous barbarians continuing unhindered

[gaunt kettle]

I disagree

[balmy raft]

Interesting

[gaunt kettle]

Null murdered dozens of other travelers to keep himself alive?

[balmy raft]

Not a good dude, so far as I can tell

[gaunt kettle]

From the sounds of things he used their souls to sustain himself

[balmy raft]

Mhm

[gaunt kettle]

And then he's trying to justify it as he "needed to see it all"

[balmy raft]

People can rationalize anything

[gaunt kettle]

Definitely one of the more interesting characters if not completely morally bankrupt

[balmy raft]

Agreed

Along with the gek

[gaunt kettle]

I would say what the korvax did to the Gek is worse than what the Gek did to them

[balmy raft]

What the Gek did killed the Korvax.

What the Korvax did was in response to this, and prevented further bloodshed

[gaunt kettle]

What they did is the equivalent of hypnotizing someone and telling them to act like a chicken

[balmy raft]

Ohhhhh

You're trolling

[gaunt kettle]

Im not

[balmy raft]

I feel dumb now

[gaunt kettle]

What the korvax did is infinitely worse than the gek, period

[balmy raft]

How

Gek kill Korvax, but korvax no kill gek

[gaunt kettle]

I'm not saying the korvax couldn't kill Gek, but fundamentally changing the basic building blocks of them especially targeting the young is grotesque

[balmy raft]

If the Korvax did this unprovoked to the gek, then yes

It's a very heinous thing to do

But I think they had every right to

[gaunt kettle]

Either way it's a heinous thing to do

[balmy raft]

What is your alternative then? Let the Gek continue to harvest Korvax?

[gaunt kettle]

Overriding the will of another is unacceptable, period. IMO

[balmy raft]

.

[gaunt kettle]

Team up with the vy'keen and find another way

[balmy raft]

Gek teaming up with vy'keen is just highly unlikely.

Korvax teaming up with vy'keen results in a lot of dead Gek.
Which is a worse fate than converting the race into merchants

Who are still, alive

[gaunt kettle]

A lot of dead ones but more than likely plenty of alive ones

[balmy raft]

So,

You'd prefer war with Gek / Vy'keen than peace

[dire drum]

Stop arguing with bad take man and start making fun of him

Or her

Or them

[gaunt kettle]

Quite frankly yeah if that's the way peace was achieved then 110%

[balmy raft]

This is acceptable

[balmy raft]

Thus is also acceptable

[dire drum]

I think the Korvax did a shitty thing, but it was for the best

They killed far less Gek

Also, the Korvax are uptight anyways, but the current Gek are pretty friendly

[balmy raft]

Mhm

[dire drum]

And I try to avoid looking the Vykeen in the eye

[gaunt kettle]

Well that was absolutely horrifying

[balmy raft]

They're brutish, but honest

[analog breach]

Geks didint stop being evil just because wanted to stop tho

[dire drum]

And while the Gek are a bunch of scamming assholes, they’re the nicest thing in the galaxy that can speak, other than the Autophage

The Autophage are the only ones that are actually curious about the traveler, kind of implying that you’re one of the first ones they’ve seen

[gaunt kettle]

So I'm at the final Atlas interface which should I choose in order to get the autophage stuff?

[dire drum]

Either works

It just matters that you complete the path

[gaunt kettle]

Well I'm going to reset then

Which one should I pick red green blue or white?

[dire drum]

Green

It’ll drop you in a lush galaxy

[gaunt kettle]

Ty

WAIT SHIT SHOULD I OF EMPIED OUT MY SHIP?

I HAD CRAP IN ITS STORAGE

[dire drum]

It only damages your components

Well, it damages all of them

[balmy raft]

Mine weren't damaged

Just the launcher

[gaunt kettle]

Every single one of my components except for the ones in my exosuit were damaged and the only one that was damaged in my exosuit was the Artemis translator

How do I start the dripping metal Quest?

[dire drum]

I only think you needed to have finished the story and unlock a harmonic camp

[gaunt kettle]

I was told I need to finish the story unlock a harmonic camp and complete a trace of metal

[dire drum]

You no longer need to complete the last one

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[gaunt kettle]

I hate the screaming crystals of corrupted worlds

[dire drum]

I just kinda mine them and ignore it

[gaunt kettle]

Now that I'm finished with the story I might cheat a little bit and get some of my twitch stuff

At this point in order to get anything valuable off my starter shift need a lot of chromatic and a couple of wiring looms as well as some Emeril and cadmium

[gaunt kettle]

I'm glad that they finally introduced a way to shred multi-tools that are useless

[gaunt kettle]

I couldn't imagine being the atlas

[wild dune]

Boundary Failure text says Null has "insincere regret"

[scarlet lodge]

I helped that alien, was it Artemis?

I helped getting them into a simulation because I wanted them to be happy

And for what?

Did they even thank me?

[sharp inlet]

@digital epoch You call that wild?
What if the First Spawn weren't tempered by the Korvax's sacrifices? What if the alterations' primary effect was neural advancement, and the Gek didn't abandon their aspirations, they just got smarter about 'em? Physical slavery inevitable leads to a revolution; Economic slaves take far less energy to control, and their output is generally both higher and longer-lasting. 😉

[digital epoch]

... wait holy shit that actually makes sense

[sharp inlet]

X-Files intro music

[uncut harness]

lol

[gaunt kettle]

How do you make the in-game Revelation about the suit AI?

[fervent cobalt]

are you talking about who/what it is?

The Taste of Metal quest has references, but to realy know you need to hit Boundary Failures on exotic planets

[gaunt kettle]

Well the suit AI is what originally controlled the Sentinels right?

[dire drum]

I think so? I also think it was a subroutine of the Atlas

[gaunt kettle]

Yeah it was the security subroutine that controlled the Sentinels

[quaint remnant]

@lucid badger ||Altas is a computer that is 16 minutes from dying and in panic it created the galaxy you play in ||

that is it

[lucid badger]

That's not it. I knew u didn't know it lol. I just googled it and it's much more than that

[quaint remnant]

Should have googled it in the first place lol

do u want me to do an essay for some randos

who clearly skipped through the story

[lofty geyser]

(spoiler) Isn’t it crazy that ||null was like “hey atlas are you proud? I discovered all your planets!” And the atlas said “no lmao creates another 18 quintillion planets”||

[rancid flax]

i always assumed that null was saying that he explored all of euclid, which if true could give us some more insight on just how old the universe really is

someones got to do some rough math on how long something like that would take first

[gaunt kettle]

A long time

[gaunt kettle]

He explored all of 1 universe and then had the meeting with atlas the other 18 quintillion always exsisted

[gaunt kettle]

I think its a severely missed opportunity to have nada do anything in regards to you restarting your universe

[glass flare]

what's the chances of getting the new space stations before end of year? any new leak info?

[deft citrus]

I was talking to artimis and he gave me his ship cords

[gaunt kettle]

So I unlocked a harmonic camp got a ship and a multi-tool now what?

[wild dune]

no, Sentinels are/were not controlled by anything. They just do whatever they wish

[gaunt kettle]

Yes they were

They were controlled by what became your suit AI

[wild dune]

What if you take a look at Boundary Failure texts

Telamon was clearly observing what the Sentinels tried to do

[astral narwhal]

What is the ultimate choice to make with Apollo again?

Like Artemis is in regards to the simulation and death but I forget how it goes with Apollo

[slim mica]

There's a suit Ai?

[dire drum]

Yes

[heady wyvern]

You know, the voice that won't stop hassling you about your hazard protection, inventory limits, etc.

[slim mica]

No

[dire drum]

I don’t believe that. There are two types of people, people who have been annoyed by Telamon and liars

[valid holly]

I've been on this, too, lately. If I'm tying it together properly, glass is a protocol that essentially creates save files of every sentient program in the simulation so that it can survive a restart. Right? Like when the Atlas asks if you want to die, if you say yes it asks, "Did you notice?"

[uncut harness]

I think knowledge stones are pretty dumb

[dire drum]

Well, clearly you haven’t used enough of them

[wild dune]

learnt nothing new

tbh it's just one of the many ways that the devs used to extend gameplay time when the game first released

[south palm]

When did he say that?

[analog breach]

Euclid has more or less 8 000 000 000 000 planets that would require 253 678,33587012 years to discover evey planet. With 1 planet per second discovered.

Also game time flows diffrent than ours.

Atlas dies in 16 min. For us it can be eons.

[rancid flax]

did he specify planets or discoveries? i dont remember

(flora, fauna, minerals)

[analog breach]

No

[rancid flax]

theres just not way the no mans sky universe exitsed that long

i mean

thats a really really long time

i think its more likely that hes either lying or exaggerating

[wild dune]

Artemis questline and Boundary Failure text.

[south palm]

huh... I never noticed lmao

[gaunt kettle]

I forget exactly how you learn it but essentially ||null is considered to be the first traveler, after fully exploring his Galaxy he goes to Atlas and says are you proud of me, Atlas shows him the other 256 galaxies that each have their own traveler in it [as a way to humble him], null takes it as an insult and decides that fine I will explore every Galaxy you have created and be the one and only Traveler, they got so wrapped up in their own little world that they produced atrocities upon the other travelers and ultimately lost themselves|| anything in Brackets is my own personal speculation

[south palm]

Ohhh right

Dude got mad he wasn’t special

I have respect for him though

He dedicated himself to a task that was impossible but something he wanted to do

[gaunt kettle]

So I made the atlas crap himself now what? How do I become a robot?

[south palm]

Continue the game

Oh right

Release the lockdown on a harmonic camp

And warp to a diff system

That’s all

[gaunt kettle]

No I already did all that

I presented Atlas with the purple crystals and he had a bit of a spook and now I want to become a robot, but I don't know how

[south palm]

Mf, that’s how you trigger the autophage quest

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[gaunt kettle]

No that's how you finish it dawg

[south palm]

You’ve finished the autophage quest?

Staff and all?

[gaunt kettle]

Yes

[south palm]

Go to a harmonic camp terminal

Look at “trade void motes”

Get ur body parts there and apply them at an appearance modifier

[gaunt kettle]

Oh that sucks

I thought we would transform into one by the end

[south palm]

You get to customize it

Pretty cool imo

[gaunt kettle]

Well no I'm not saying it's bad necessarily I'm just saying I thought we would become one at the end of the class not have to farm out the body

[wild dune]

Sadly, the travellers (or, we) are still sack of meat beneath that exosuit.

[heady wyvern]

The Appearance Modifier is just a holographic projection. We don't become an Autophage, we just wear the face of one.

[gaunt kettle]

Sad.

[desert needle]

what do I do at 14/16 atlas sequence (The purge mission)

[pine needle]

Keep warping, I guess? I’m new too, so I could be thinking of the wrong thing.

[gaunt kettle]

Just keep warping

[desert needle]

so can you go back to euclid after resetting?

[gaunt kettle]

Yee

[desert needle]

theres more planets than I thought

[desert needle]

space station or space anomaly

and can you teleport straight to your base from the space anomaly if you're in a different galaxy?

and last thing, can you teleport to a base if the teleporter has no power in it?

[gaunt kettle]

18 quintillion 446 quadrillion 744 trillion 73 billion 709 million 551 thousand 616

[desert needle]

ah

[gaunt kettle]

Both I'm pretty sure

[gaunt kettle]

Yes

[desert needle]

alr

[gaunt kettle]

Yes

[desert needle]

good to know

now I can have a base in a euclid arctic planet

and one in an earth like planet (eissentam galaxy)

[gaunt kettle]

Yee

[desert needle]

atleast my pets stayed so I can just run around on a weird giant raptor creature

[uncut harness]

I like my pets cause I can ride on my giant bubble

[desert needle]

I tamed this weird arctic creature the size of a triceratops

a weird bug eyed wolf thingy

the planet I'm on also has these weird blobs with antennae and vegetation on its "head"

[desert needle]

is the reconstructed drone considered a spoiler?

[wild dune]

u mean laylaps or the tall guy in Anomaly?

[pine needle]

I would say yes either way.

[gaunt kettle]

Show

[desert needle]

alright uh, is the hardframe minotaur considered a spoiler

[analog breach]

Everything that is part of story/side quest can be considered a spoiler. If player didint finished it yet.

[desert needle]

do I need to finish the atlas path questline for the autophage mission to work

[analog breach]

No

Only artemis path and solve dissonant camp puzzle.

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[lucid badger]

Going through my second playthrough now, I am still uncertain about the anomaly.

I don't fully tryst Nada and my suspicion is justified now that I read closely Artemis' words:
Nada kzzt polo kzzt dont trust and watching us
Nada thinks that the Atlas is trying to follow the Anomaly, but can't. It thinks that the Atlas wishes to destroy Nada and the Anomaly.

Is there something more to this conflict? Did Nada do something specific to the Anomaly or is it truly just because it serves as home to all those who deviate as anomalies (players)

[uncut harness]

In game you are a fragment of the creator who has died in reality, and what you see is a simulation created by, the atlas being a server of sorts, the loop 16 is a refrence to a older version of the atlas originally called emily but was considered to be obselelte in reality just like the atlas is now. that is why the atlas is called the crimson liar. The atlas foundation created all of this to answer the fundamental questions of reality. Humans have already left earth a millenia ago in game and after current time. You are the last traveler, when your exosuit talks back in the story and is recognized that's actually Telamon which is a security protocol designed to monitor the atlas via your connection to. And due to the lack of maintenance and other factors the atlas is malfunctioning and the simulation is beginning to fail. Because it was abandoned in reality. Originally all travelers were given their own iteration or reality race, and had their own set of rules but now they are all the same, the anomaly was the place where they could meet. The atlas really has only 16 minutes of power left, but the simulation perceives time differently

Artemis was never alive, and you aren't even real. Just a fragment of a memory of a now dead creator in simulation that will end in 16 minutes in reality

[eternal silo]

||We are a iteration of the creator of the atlas. The atlas wanted to ask its creator a few more questions so it simulated its creator in its simulations so they could talk before the atlas perishes due to the encroaching black hole in 16 minutes||

[uncut harness]

The Atlas originally created the Travellers from the corrupted memory of a brain scan it performed on its creator before it was abandoned

It has no questions it is corrupt ai performing a simulation that again ends in 16 minutes

What you percieve is also corrupt perception due to the fragmentation of the corrupt brain scan on a now long dead creator

The iteration in game is nothing more than the word used by the atlas foundation to describe which reality you the fragment currently reside in.

There was originally supposed to be a traveler like you in each of 256 realities. But that is broken now. And again all travelers now share the same set of rules.

Which is why everyone is in Euclid

The atlas due to catastrophic failure cannot support all 256 realities, which is why it destroys the previous when you move to another. It has 16 minutes of power left in reality and is attempting to conserve what remains, the atlas AI is attempting to adapt to the loss.

It is looping and resetting because of that catastrophic failure.

And the corruption in the simulation is a result of everything stated.

Now you know the truth

[fervent cobalt]

unfortunately that's not true

If you read all the boundary failures you'd have learned that Telamon was one of the creators, and his personality and knowledge has been imbued in a traveler suit

This is why laylaps calls you Telamon-not-Telamon

[uncut harness]

Actually

[fervent cobalt]

We actually don't know what is actually causing the Atlas to break down

[rugged quail]

So the Atlas is like an AI somewhere in the real world?

[uncut harness]

It is a security protocol designed to monitor the atlas, and yes

[fervent cobalt]

however, the fact glossed over is that there are like 5 creators

[uncut harness]

More if you consider the predecessor Emily

And even more if you recognize the atlas is obsolete indicating a newer version with new scans is being made or completed, bc the atlas creators are dead. But you are the fragment of 1 creator

[rugged quail]

Would the real world in nms be similar to the simulation?

[lucid badger]

NMS 2 ????

[uncut harness]

Wink wink

This information is obviously classified

[lucid badger]

Hopefully in my lifetime

[lucid badger]

thanks for all of this but how did u find this info?

[uncut harness]

That information is Classified

[lucid badger]

Do u think there will be a nms 2

[rugged quail]

I don't really see the point in an entire new game, maybe a story expansion would make sense though

[uncut harness]

Refrence is above but idk. Still Classified

[fervent cobalt]

you learn most of it from Boundary Failures, and Remembrance terminals

[uncut harness]

Allot of details like even how nada doesn't join the convergence but says in the end that she will return to upon ending the simulation in the story. But note that even if you move into another reality, or start a new game that nada announces the anomaly is the same as before. The AI doesn't change merely the iteration.

[lucid badger]

Okay question: Can u find all words of every alien? Or is there infinite

[rugged quail]

Yes you can find all words

[fervent cobalt]

you can find all words

[lucid badger]

Roughly how many are there for each race?

Even Atlas words?

[rugged quail]

912 Gek, 846 Korvax, 919 Vy'keen, 879 Autophage and 222 Atlas words.

[fervent cobalt]

oh, it went up

[lucid badger]

U guys are the nerdiest nerds in town

[fervent cobalt]

last I looked it was 700ish for each race, and 200ish for Atlas

[lucid badger]

I think I will become one of u eventually

[rugged quail]

I am fluent in Korvax

[uncut harness]

I take pride in knowing what's going on. There's a reason I'm the Supreme Magnate

Mainly trade but still

[rugged quail]

Is there a name for the languages? like Korvaxian or something?

[uncut harness]

Possibly

[rugged quail]

I don't think it's ever mentioned

[uncut harness]

But your perception is corrupt and your logs recognize it as only atlas, korvax etc

[fervent cobalt]

I never bothered learning all the languages. Once you learn enough words, you realize aliens have nothing useful to say

[lucid badger]

Question, portals dont destroy my ship right

[rugged quail]

I just like to be able to fully understand Korvax

[lucid badger]

Only the galactic core which u go through whilst in space in ur ship

[uncut harness]

So who's to say what the fully functional atlas looks like

[rugged quail]

I only have like 30 gek words learned though

[fervent cobalt]

and technically, you didn't learn any words

Your suit database learns translations, then forwards that to You

[rugged quail]

I guess so

[lucid badger]

Would be cool if the words were released and we could all talk in korvax together

[uncut harness]

They are

You go to logs and words learned and click on one it'll show the korvax word for it too. Even if it isn't translated it's possible you can read korvax

[rugged quail]

Evoy ges hum ond itelis kevich

[uncut harness]

And I am gek entity

[lucid badger]

So guys in "The First Traveller" do I break my ship when I go through the portal

[uncut harness]

[lucid badger]

Just trying to prepare myself

[rugged quail]

Well actually I am Autophage entity in game

But Autophage are similar to Korvax

[uncut harness]

So are Gek even our blood is similar.