nms-spoilers

[merry estuary]

No choosing

[uncut harness]

bro i chose the red one

[merry estuary]

No clue which that is

[uncut harness]

i heard i could take eissentam by picking green

[merry estuary]

Correct

[uncut harness]

red is calypso

[merry estuary]

Right

[uncut harness]

so if i reach the center of calypso, will i be allowed to choose eissentam?

or i'll be locked in a harsh galaxy loop?

[merry estuary]

You just move to the next galaxy in line

There are 255 galaxies, Calypso is 3 or something

So youlll go to the fourth galaxy

[uncut harness]

seriously? so i'll need to go to the center of the galaxy that much times? oh gooooood, its going to be looooong!

7 times!

i already feel bad for my hyperdrive xD

[merry estuary]

That or a taxi

[uncut harness]

nice idea 🙂

[merry estuary]

Now you know what corewarping or galaxyhopping is

[uncut harness]

ima ask "korvax airlines"

[tough shoal]

I'm heading to the center of the Calypso galaxy rn, how long does it usually take lol

[uncut harness]

long time

[tough shoal]

I can warp about 4 systems at a time with my Interceptors range

[merry estuary]

Depends where you are and how you do it

[uncut harness]

many warp cel

many many ones

[merry estuary]

And you mean systems probably

[tough shoal]

I got a base on a Corrupted planet, infinite fuel for my precious ship

[tough shoal]

ah yeah lol

[uncut harness]

🙂

[merry estuary]

You can use portals to get you pretty close

[uncut harness]

4 systems? only?

utopia speeder's better 🙂

[tough shoal]

4 or 5, not the best range but it's great at everything else

Except for the turn speed, but that doesn't bother me much tbh

[deft cobalt]

How do you get to the centers of galaxies?

I just got to Eissentam so I’m obviously not leaving just yet but I feel like it would be useful to know.

[uncut harness]

by warping

[dusky kernel]

get to a portal and put

then meander over to the center and try to find a system with a line going to it, like this

these are gateways

hold whatever directional control you have towards the same direction of it and then jump

[earnest crater]

always leaves me one warp from a core gateway system. Through galaxy 25, anyway. I am only just starting the long, mind-numbing, trip to 255.

[dusky kernel]

the? there's lots of them per galaxy

[worn rain]

When you reach centre of galaxy, do you instantly warp to new galaxy or there like something you need to do first? I just want a yes or no, no spoilers pls

[sour fossil]

No action necessary, you just watch a cutscene and wait for the game to load

[worn rain]

Thnx

I appreciate the answer

[tardy hull]

you can go to the anomaly, one of the featured bases is in eissentam iirc

[uncut harness]

i dont have eissentam

[tough shoal]

that's the point, you'll get to go to eissentam free of effort pretty sure

I got one in another galaxy and didn't realize it when I went lol

[uncut harness]

im on switch, no multiplayer and no featured base

[worn rain]

BTW, one more thing: how good is this cutscene? I'm debating whether to just 2atch it on YouTube

[dusky kernel]

it's literally just 2 minutes straight of flying out of the past galaxy, and then into the next one while the same song plays

and somehow people endure that 255 times straight

props to them tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4tDs9DphP4

[dusky kernel]

so you chose the "shitty" galaxy, which is presumably just Calypso since you're on switch and can't get outwards that far without several core jumps, that's 7 left till Eiss, 252 till Iousongola

In other words, F

[worn rain]

Thnx for link

[sterile quiver]

3 mroe missionjs to go and i can finsih artemis path

also what does 16 16 mean

[tough shoal]

It's something in the lore, you'll find out soon if you're on the Artemis Path

[solar cairn]

You'll see

[sterile quiver]

okay

but what is it

its in the name

#nms-spoilers

like i told the korvax 16 16 and they give me something

[latent ingot]

@wicked wedge

You can use this to see how far along you are

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Storyline

[wicked wedge]

Ok thanks

[velvet cypress]

@carmine walrus A black hole sends you closer to the center (well, maybe). But isn't there a black hole in the center? where might that send you?

[cloud plume]

this is no black hole

just a distant system, jumping to it warp you to the next galaxy (well i assume i did it only during the expedition XD)

[solar cairn]

Does it all the time

[dusky kernel]

Is Likholu in the true center or offset?

[merry estuary]

What is Likholu

[dusky kernel]

The empty space at the core is really just full of inaccessible and invisible stars afaik

[dusky kernel]

Famous glitched system at the Euclidian core.

[merry estuary]

Oh, no clue then

[glass flare]

that's where the world of glass is, maybe

[cloud plume]

glitched system?

[dusky kernel]

inaccessible via any normal means

[boreal nexus]

are any of you aware of that space station leak?

[dusky kernel]

yes

[uncut harness]

Might be next

though I think I want an ocean overhaul before that

[dusky kernel]

saw a planet named aquatic once

[boreal nexus]

I hope the stations in interior are alot bigger and are also overhauled

[dusky kernel]

literally my only image of it

planet was radioactive in game, sketchy af

[uncut harness]

Aquatic planets are in the games files, but they can't spawn

[dusky kernel]

interesting

[sterile quiver]

16/16/16 meaning

[glass flare]

do all the camp puzzles at the computer terminals add up to 17?

[sterile quiver]

okay whenever i go to the atlas anamoly

i get 161616

like what does it mean!!

isnt atlas the simulation

so why doesnt it speak english

[glass flare]

Atlas has its own language that you can learn

[sterile quiver]

who is telamon

[merry estuary]

The suit entity

The thing that tells you to recharge life support and stuff

[timber sedge]

||Former Atlas security subsystem confined to the players exosuit by the Atlas||

[unborn bough]

spoiler tags in spoiler channels. I love these.

[golden root]

i reached it

the option to reset

i feel like this is gonna be a terrible decision

but cant you get back to old galaxies?

[merry estuary]

As long as you have a base or space station there, sure

[timber sedge]

Haha, jast in case bro only wanted a surface level answer

[unborn bough]

Wait, you wanted answers? 😅

Yea, Telamon is an Atlas sub-routine created alongside first iteration of Atlas to monitor the Aerons.

[timber sedge]

Lol no I meant the guy who asked who telemon is lol. But thanks for the answer nonethelss

[unborn bough]

Oh! Gotcha. I was only looking at your message. Hehehe!

[golden root]

also do the galaxy choices matter?

alr thanks

[golden root]

do I have to make a new heart of the sun?

yes right?

[round perch]

WHAT

Since when

[analog breach]

I only care if they have DEEP oceans

[uncut harness]

since forever pretty much

you cant find them

[round perch]

;-;

[late tusk]

what ever happend to the solar helm?

[sterile quiver]

oh coool

technology recharge

i think this is telamon

[uncut harness]

thats laylaps

[dusky kernel]

laylaps is the separate blue one from a trace of metal
that's the new jetpack that was introduced in interceptor

[merry estuary]

Where do you see a jetpack

[dusky kernel]

it's literally the aeron turbojet

the sentinel sticking out replaces the scanner

[merry estuary]

I didnt even notice that yet lol

Not been using that jetpack

[dusky kernel]

it's cool, but too clunky for my liking honestly

[rancid fog]

Agreed, the wings are much too big and wide

[cloud plume]

if the wings where completly folding, it whould be great

but the shape is not specialy good, i prefer the exotic or a cloak

[dusky kernel]

yeah, it's not like buzz lightyear's where they pop out
they're kinda just always out and it feels like a decapitation hazard

[cloud plume]

XD

[dusky kernel]

like you could be walking on the space station next to some NPCS and... yeah I'm sure you could picture the rest

it's why I keep that retro jetpack unit

Artemis is on my freighter.... did I just warp to the system in the anomaly simulation?

[glass flare]

I was watching a NMS stream yesterday and it was noticed that the Interceptor camp puzzle numbers added up to 17. 17 also happens to be the last number we have, and a mirror of the 71 Atlantideum the the Autophages require. i wonder if all the puzzles add up to 17

[dusky kernel]

new robo fauna note: divergent

also "assembled in the stars"

might look for the one that says something about the ATLAS, then I can get the theory ball rolling

"Searching for home"

"Self-aware"

[dusky kernel]

"Unscannable"

"Underclocked"

"Recycled"

"Organic interior"

"Superconducting wires"

"Waiting for infinity"

"Recycled" again

and "[Internal battery leak detected]"

mechanoceris lore untapped fr

"Recycled" for the third time

"Wonders why"

"Overclocked"

"Divergent" again

"Enlarged flux circuit"

the other says "Recycled", yet again. I think this sector of the galaxy may be incredibly efficient.

[glass flare]

those are procedurally chosen messages, you don't need to apprise us of every note you find....

[dusky kernel]

ok

if I find the one I'm looking for, I'll def ss it

might leave in questionable ones like "Remembers the Before"

the "before"....

[dusky kernel]

"Transmitting to the Atlas"

so whatever these non-simulated robots are....

they must be programs that work for the Atlas and are somehow also "lost", as they wonder about something and are "waiting for infinity", among other things

maybe like the sentinels, they were just code but ended up gaining a physical form somehow

the notes seem to be divided into notes regarding them being robotic, and lore-heavy obscure ones

this and "Non-simulated".... these robofauna are definitely some kind of ATLAS program, its purpose seems unbeknownst to me

Maybe the before was when the ATLAS's universes were more diverse in their creation? Maybe farther back?

imma keep hypothesizing obscure mechanoceris lore so that you don't have to

[tawdry estuary]

so i'm not the only one who finds the robo fauna incredibly cool

a species is in my Fauna Records in which it holds the record for the highest "Convergence Potential"
"Convergent Sentience Quotient: 70.5ieq"

no clue what that is

[dusky kernel]

presumably a convergence

robo I found today has a potential of 80.7ieq

convergent program, broadcasting some form of information directly to the ATLAS....

[velvet cypress]

No

[glass flare]

that's a shame. thanks

[sterile quiver]

16 meaning!!

please

tell me

[midnight notch]

16 is how many minutes the Atlas has left before it dies

For us, the player, it may as well be eternity. But for the Atlas it is no time at all

[sterile quiver]

oh ok

[midnight notch]

The Artemis missions tell you it at the end

[sterile quiver]

yea

[tardy hull]

so, when first visiting the atlas during the artemis quest, i asked atlas to delete the universe

is this why in some of the universes sentinels decided to try to kill everyone, in the story?

or does that aspect of the story still happen even if you don't tell atlas to delete the universe

[spiral musk]

Very interesting, I just poked at a repository on a corrupted planet in a Korvax system, and I got some notes about the Void Mother/Atlantid, and something about living for millennia and then dying whispering about the "nineteenth minute"

The Korvax tried to bring it back to life, but noted that it was beyond the scope of Mind Arcs or Korvax carapaces?

...yeah, this is really interesting stuff here. The Atlantid being a sorta Boltzmann-brain-esque thing, the "Atlas Protocol made flesh"

and apparently it lived on Korvax Prime? Just listed as "the Prime".

[dusky kernel]

It is said in the boundary failure lore that Telamon deleted entire universes after the sentinels got out of hand and took over, or.... something like that.

[carmine walrus]

If I jump into another galaxy system

Like let’s say I went from euclid to hilbert can I ever go back

Even with portals and such?

Or am I permanently stuck in hilbert

[dusky kernel]

yeah

[fleet nacelle]

why does chosing to let things live always be the wrong choice xD

[heady wyvern]

Portals (planetary point of interest) only operate within the galaxy in which they are located. Teleporters (base, space station, Space Anomaly) can teleport to any other valid teleport location (like your bases) regardless of galaxy.

[uncut harness]

yeah, but the portals are way more accurate and effective, allowing you to teleport at places you've never been to.

(there, i'm not talking about featured community bases.)

[ocean mountain]

should I upload artemis to the simulation or end their suffering?

i'm going to upload them

[gray tinsel]

I also uploaded them

They can choose to die for themselves later if they wish to, but I at least would like to give them a 2nd chance

Or a choice between life and death at the very least

[merry estuary]

... Accurate? You literally cannot choose where on the planet you land, with teleporters you can pinpoint your destination

Anyhow, they just work differently

[uncut harness]

if you have the right coordinates, you can get to accurate places in the galaxy.

[merry estuary]

Cant get more accurate than random position on planet...

[uncut harness]

well, at least you get the exact planet... 😐

but if we want the exact position, a base must be built

and for better results, you build a base near a portal 🙂

[cloud plume]

you can give someone the planetary coords

and he can go to the exact spot

[glass flare]

yeah it's a bit of a manual process. would be kinda cool if you could set a navigation marker based on coords

[sharp inlet]

Exploit of the Day: The Nanite Fountain

1. Refine Nanites in a Portable Refiner.
2. Leave something in refining slot that you don't have in Exosuit, Ship, or Freighter inventory. Have only 1 open slot on Exosuit, no room on the others, no Exocraft nearby.
3. Try to collapse the Refiner - there isnt enough room in your available Inventories for both the Refiner and whatever is in the slot.... but the Nanites get collected each time you try. 😉

[cloud plume]

hum, interesting

but isn't this a dupe glitch?

if you put something in the refining slot, can you dupe it using the same method

[unborn raven]

dupes are a kind of exploit

[cloud plume]

no way!, jk apart, i'm curious if this is a basic dupe glitch or no

[velvet cypress]

from the sounds of it, this works only for things that take up that refiner output slot (and therefore have a recipe) but don't take an inventory slot.
i can only think of nanites

...fairly certain there's at least one other known dupe involving refiners, though

[merry estuary]

At least there was yeah

[velvet cypress]

ngl im sorta glad people aren't handing out stacks of activated indium left and right now lol (my record was receiving like 6 in the same anomaly instance)

[safe umbra]

Due to boredom if nothing else, I am working on uploading bases I've built at Unknown Gravesites, it is taking some time, to find the Travelers, find a grave site with electromagnetic power to run the base is a little painful, 7 sites uploaded atm, more coming

[solar cairn]

Nowadays, it's AI cores

[unborn raven]

delete all unsolicited anomaly gifts imo

[round perch]

If you are unsure, I simply chuck 'em in a spcific storage container I rarely look into

Keep the trade goods there and if I ever needed money in a pinch and am tempted, I can always sell what is stockpile. 10% are expensive gifts of other players

[unborn raven]

most expensive gift i've deleted was 30 storage augmentations

which was uhh, 25 more storage augmentations than i'd had at the time

[dusky kernel]

So during the choice, if you decide to... reboot, you get to choose the galaxies from wherever you're at

I wonder if you can find out the subtype names for every galaxy by doing the choice from them all, like how instead of Hilbert being called norm, it's called "Imperfect", Calypso, "raging".

[unborn raven]

probably easier to datamine it

the fandom wiki has some subtypes for higher number galaxies

[dusky kernel]

Yeah, from what I can tell, choices were made at 55 Fladiselm, and recently at either 230 Raldwicarn or 229 Huruahili (Unable to tell due to both 230 Raldwicarn and 239 Yuwarugha having listed subtypes)

[cloud plume]

well, you dupe the charged version of stellar metals, ferrite, chromatic alloy ect...

[dusky kernel]

It seems another choice was made at 152 Itlhotagra according to the wiki, since 153 Podalicess, 155 Halsebenk, 159 Rycempler, and 167 Impoxectin seem to have found subtype names, and even screenshots of them, although they aren't listed in the lists of their respective galaxy types

If it was before 152, then that would be the listed empty galaxy, and if it was after, 154 would be listed instead of 153 for norm

[worn rain]

What exactly is the world of glass? I know it’s the sentinels’ home, but I know nothing beyond that.

[proud cairn]

It works as an archive. Location for stuff deleted from the main simulation

[worn rain]

Cool, is it a physical place you can go to? Not in game

[proud cairn]

No we can’t get there. But new dlc is hinting at something to do with it

[worn rain]

I didn’t mean in game, like in the lore is it physical

But that would be cool

[proud cairn]

Ah I am with you. No not physical. But then the world we play in is not physical either.

[worn rain]

Ok, cool, thnx

[proud cairn]

Look up Kanaju on YouTube. He has a few good videos on lore

[worn rain]

Yea, I’ve actually watched a few, that’s why I asked

They’re pretty interesting

[proud cairn]

Ah cool. The lore is very interesting

[worn rain]

It is

[dusky kernel]

essentially hell, I guess...

Part of me really wonders how someone can datamine and go about finding all of the galaxies' subtypes without having to go through the choice in every galaxy, and also what the subtypes are for all of them.

I'm not sure myself on which galaxy to use my choice in on my other save, if I ever decide to go through the purge on it.

Maybe Rycempler, so I can hit Impoxectin?

[worn rain]

I’m kinda confused about the end of the main story, I know the Atlas resets the universe, but there also other realities besides our own, so what happens to them?

[dusky kernel]

Either the other realities are other universes, or individual galaxies

not sure myself

[worn rain]

The individual galaxy thing sounds the most plausible, but I’m not sure

[dusky kernel]

and that's strange to me since different galaxies coexisting seem to be a part of the lore (e.g. the Korvax being native to a distant galaxy and settling on Euclid's edge)

[worn rain]

Ye, that’s what rlly confuses me

[proud cairn]

@dusky kernel Have you tried asking in the mod Chanel? About data mining that is.

[latent heath]

it technically is against tos by any game but stuff like that usually go here @proud cairn obviously spoilertag it

if u do not it will prob get a slap sometimes

spoilers is one thing

datamine is another

[proud cairn]

Thanks for correcting me

[latent heath]

Dou mind u sharing datamine is nor the same as actively doin it

[dusky kernel]

datamining seems like an easy way out..
then again the only other way to tell is incredibly slow, and is to do the choice (available once per save) in every possible galaxy and take notes on which one is what

sounds straightforward, that is if you decide to ignore the norm galaxies, the most common type and the only types to appear consecutively, meaning one galaxy's purge choices would have to be checked at a time since the nearest norm forward is almost always a different norm galaxy than the last

[solar cairn]

As well as repeated stories for all available options

[dusky kernel]

of course, you have to go through all of that story, just to choose and see the subtypes, one galaxy/save at a time

[solar cairn]

As well as dialogue option for Saving Arte, and Reset simulation
Save Arty, refuse to reset sim
Kill Arty, reset simulation
Kill Arty, refuse to reset sim.

That's 4 playthroughs alone

[dusky kernel]

looking through data seems like the ideal option to this madness

One choice per save, wish I knew some lush galaxy out in the hundreds existed back then because I would have definitely done it from there

[round perch]

At least she can build a home, meet people and enjoy the singular solar system.

[dusky kernel]

she enjoyed my freighter exactly once, and I never saw her again

[solar cairn]

I don't think there is another person in that anomaly simulation

Is there???

[round perch]

I thought there was.. But damn, did I misread that?

Doomed her

[solar cairn]

I didn't choose to save Artemis

So. I could be wrong

[dusky kernel]

thought I was wrong for not letting her die, and I probably am

[round perch]

I told ehr the truth immediately

So she can still yeet herself if she finds her life empty, but I gave her a choice and information.

The same choice the Atlas gave me, more or less. Made aware it's all a simulation gone berserk, find meaning for yourself or submit.

[dusky kernel]

I wish to submit across enough saves to find out how much of the universe is imperfections

[solar cairn]

Well, she will be back. Even if they die

[round perch]

[solar cairn]

They were a traveller. We can't die naturally

[dusky kernel]

I wonder if they blocked Odyalutai from the choice, or if they made Euclid the norm from 254 and 255

that makes me curious since they made Odyalutai inaccessible, but did they ever account for the purge?

I'll find out eventually

[dusky kernel]

Found 2 new robo-animals, they both "Choose not to speak"

[dusky kernel]

Frozen galaxy. Impoxectin.

[solar cairn]

Frozen Galaxy. Increased cold worlds?

[analog breach]

Cold and dead probably

[pearl ravine]

speaking of galaxies, in what scenario would anybody choose a galaxy that isn't norm or lush? are there benefits that come with choosing an empty or harsh galaxy?

[sour fossil]

Maybe the slight increase in challenge

Some folks also prefer a more empty universe

Some even install dedicated mods to make it even more devoid of life

But if that's not an option for you, an empty galaxy is the closest you get in vanilla game

[velvet cypress]

I love glitched and dead planets, lush are Okay. so empty is amazing for me
i also love the simple act of collecting storm crystals way too much so im stuck between Harsh and Empty lol

[solar cairn]

Uh me. That would be me, because I like the unique landscapes they have

And all the stabilized glitches

Glitch planets best planets

[dusky kernel]

In-game name for an empty galaxy, names depend on which of the empty galaxies is the choice

[dusky kernel]

really just opinion

I can see why "silent" or "relentless" may hit much harder than "halcyon" to someone

[solar cairn]

Yeah but Frozen has to have a meaning. Like maybe more airless/cold worlds

[dusky kernel]

I get what you're coming from and it makes perfect sense, but sadly it's pretty much just flavor text

[solar cairn]

Awww booooooo

NMS ruining the moment

[dusky kernel]

likewise, burning galaxies are just harshes

there are only 2 or so harshes known to be burning and I aim to fix that, along with putting an end to all of the subtype madness

not complete brute forcing, but it's still looking through every single galaxy's purge choices to tell which is what

as tempting as datamining sounds, I know almost nothing about how that could help find the subtypes of all of them anyways

[solar cairn]

Could be a tag identifier?

I wouldn't know where to look for that information

[dusky kernel]

it seems to only show up during the purge choices afaik

feels more straightforward to simply edit yourself to the purge choices, look and don't touch, and hit the next galaxy in line

[solar cairn]

If it's a dialogue box, that has to be stored somewhere

[dusky kernel]

🤔 I wouldn't see why

the other part is that at least one of the names for the 4 galaxies is always different if you're in a different galaxy (maybe in some cases 0 if 2 galaxies share the same subtype name back to back)

[solar cairn]

Well, the game pulled the dialogue from somewhere. Otherwise that text wouldn't be able to be drawn from

It could be just choosing it from a pool of words based on galaxy type

[dusky kernel]

and it does

each type can have one of 4 possible subtype names each

[solar cairn]

So 25% chance each galaxy type

[dusky kernel]

Norms are listed as "Imperfect", "Improved", "Parallel", or "Rebuilt" in game,
Lushes are "Halcyon", "Inspiring", "Serene", or "Tranquil" ,
Empties are "Ancestral", "Frozen", "Exhausted", or "Silent",
and Harshes are "Burning", "Raging", "Relentless", or "Ruthless".

[dusky kernel]

what's the off-chance that the names could just be listed as some sort of randomizer based on which galaxy you're in and not actually show in any databases

[solar cairn]

It's possible, but I doubt it since the quest wasn't really thought with that in mind.

I'm curious to see, if it's truly random, will someone get a different tag if they follow the same steps. Or, is it concrete tags?

[dusky kernel]

Concrete would be really good news. I remember doing my choices from Euclid, and Calypso appeared as raging, Budullangr as ancestral, Eissentam as halcyon. It seems to be like that for good, since it appears like that for a lot of people, but I wonder if those names stay the same if I were to do it in Hilbert...

If Budullangr always appeared as "ancestral" in every galaxy up to it and not just in the specific one you did choices from

[marsh jacinth]

I'm at the mission stage where I gave APOLLO signs to the portal. Do I have much left?

[solar cairn]

Not much

[dusky kernel]

the walls are falling
that's neat

this is why travellers can see each other right?

atlas decay or something

[merry estuary]

Sort of

[dusky kernel]

is it like, several travellers that are really just one anyways overlapping on the same repeated galaxy

[solar cairn]

Something like that

[solar cairn]

Many iterations of simulations bleeding into each other

[dusky kernel]

so is it like, several euclids merged into one and that's the euclid?

[solar cairn]

Meaning, @uncut harness was right. Travellers/Anomalies never die

[solar cairn]

Not quite. Euclid is likely a repeated variable simulation, when the Atlas started to repeat variables

The other simulations are asynchronous, and with Atlas dying, the containment of each simulation is failing

[uncut harness]

so they don't die?

[dusky kernel]

and there's repeated... repeated variable simulations that are the other galaxies(?)

[solar cairn]

No

[uncut harness]

Maybe they're not supposed to die

[solar cairn]

I've been thinking about it, they do not die naturally

[uncut harness]

and artemis was a bug

a product of the atlas failing

[solar cairn]

Artemis basically had their code purged from our simulation

And go to the world of glass

When a simulation ends, that's when a Traveller dies, and enters the world of glass

[dusky kernel]

are the galaxies, although repeated, collectively in the same simulated universe or are they the simulations

[solar cairn]

In the same body of Atlas (the universe) and all simulations

The Actual Universe (out of Atlas) is the physical world

[solar cairn]

There were many travellers, in many forms, back when Atlas was fully operational and was running millions at a time. We are seeing a fringe event

All those millions eventually had their simulation ended, marked for deletion, sent to world of glass.

Only a few remained (likely the ambassadors, right at the beginning of boundary failures for Nada and Polo and the Anomaly)

Few being... Hundred thousand compared to millions

Though that means Atlas started to panic before it started repeating simulations. Which we have no evidence of, but it makes sense to start that peril of fear and feed a feedback loop until self destruction

@uncut harness does this make sense?

This doesn't answer how Null Escaped the world of glass, or when that happened

Somehow, Null did something.
And whatever it caused started something wrong and I've haven't stitched that together yet

[uncut harness]

I think that makes sense yeah

Did we decide that it was null who escaped the world of glass?

[dusky kernel]

which mission ends in the purge I forgot
got to the anomaly and the missions split

[heady wyvern]

The one that isn't "The Space Anomaly" or "The Atlas Path."

[dusky kernel]

so artemis alr

atlas path is the one that makes you see black holes and gives you star seed I think

[solar cairn]

It's the only one that makes sense in regards to the timeline

He was the First Traveller, in a field of many, that now is back to see the end. He got what he wanted, more time to see the galaxies

This does mean that him escaping the world of glass is more recent events

But, I think this makes sense, as it was more or less recent that travellers could natively use portals after he dissected Aerons for glyphs

[round perch]

Yeah Null definitely paved the way into research into Glass or Glass-related entities.

[uncut harness]

It didn't seem like he entered the world of glass willingly

[outer hornet]

which option is to get to hilbert? I'm at the end of the artemis path and I am now resetting the simulation

[dusky kernel]

imperfect

the cyan one

[outer hornet]

ok thanks

[pearl ravine]

i actually have to travel to the center of the galaxy for this quest?

[dusky kernel]

no

[pearl ravine]

oh

[dusky kernel]

but if you want to, just spam the first glyph

[pearl ravine]

i just wasted two warps worth of fuel then

[pearl ravine]

how do i use it?

[dusky kernel]

at a portal

[pearl ravine]

ah alr

wait do I get glyphs by warping or do i just wait it out

[dusky kernel]

what mission are you doing

[pearl ravine]

The Purge

[dusky kernel]

oh yeah it tells you to warp 16 times and it gives you the glyphs for each warp

[pearl ravine]

ah alright

ty 🙏🏼

[dusky kernel]

honestly trying to get to the purge myself on another save because I'm trying to do a thing with the galaxy choices

[dusky kernel]

I'm now doing the purge and I have no idea where to stop at to begin this whole thing

[frank gale]

warp 16 times

I think

[dusky kernel]

I did

it was for a thing that I'll continue later

long story short, I saved at the final portal

[pearl ravine]

i finally finished the story, I'm really happy that artemis learned what happened to him on his own rather than me having to break the news to him

[dusky kernel]

I just let her die in my new save since it was told as "putting her out of her misery"

surprised that you essentially broadcast the people in the quest "everything's going to die goodbye everyone" assuming it was 16 actual minutes inside the simulation and end up never seeing them again apart from the occasional appearance in the freighter base

I technically haven't finished the story on my new save because the point of it was to save it up to the point right before you can choose the galaxies

[golden root]

Her I think?
Wasn’t Artemis a girl?

[analog breach]

Dosent really matter

[icy citrus]

Canonically none of them are gendered

They/Them

[round perch]

Time dilation. The 16 minutes real time can be eons inside of the simulation. I found it pretty cool we keep going on, despite knowing there is also death waiting for us at the end of our road. We still struggle despite it, no apathy

[dusky kernel]

It was never really specified by the Atlas, but since you're clearly still intact after 16 real minutes, so it's a long time inside the simulation

what I am curious about is if the 54 minutes that Nada's simulation/galaxy/whatever was 54 in-simulation minutes, or 54 minutes to the Atlas

[cloud plume]

well, it's a mystery

we'll probably never know

until NMS die out, and then we whould be able to figure the conversion ratio

[dusky kernel]

I don't exactly feel like assuming or making predictions on when the game'll die

I'd rather just enjoy it while I can, as said

[tardy hull]

so

i picked bud during the choice

so i'm 100% the blue was bud

and i'

i'm 90% sure it was referred to as silent

[dusky kernel]

pic like you said?

[tardy hull]

it was long ago

i'll redo the story

on my permadeath save

i dont have a pic

you can still get the achi for getting to the center if it's not in euclid right

and i'm 90% sure the white galaxy was "improved"

[dusky kernel]

there's no white galaxy

[tardy hull]

in the pick screen

the fourth pick was white

[dusky kernel]

that's cyan

[tardy hull]

proves how bad my memory is

next time i'm taking pics

[dusky kernel]

If it appeared as silent to you, that's really bad news. That means the subtype names aren't definitive

[tardy hull]

maybe it's platform specific

or maybe it changed across versions

but yeah i wouldn't bet they are definitive without evidence

best thing would be to complete the story twice on the same setup in euclid and take pics of all 4

if the game can be saved before that part should be straightforward

or next time you do it when jumping galaxies, maybe you can try reloading instead of picking to see if it stays the same

i'll do the same when i get there in my permadeath save

how do you complete the story on a save where it's already been completed though

you mentioned you use it to jump to other galaxies of a certain type

[dusky kernel]

you don't

it's already done and you have to start again

[tardy hull]

ah you have a save set up a certain way that you can bring along and then reset to before that thing in the story?

[dusky kernel]

I saved right before the final portal

so I can cry 6 times, look at the choices, and reload

[tardy hull]

ah then you have just the setup to test this

if you want to

although i'll still test it myself when i get there, amybe it's consistent in a save but not across saves/people

[dusky kernel]

I'm going to head to all of the galaxies with this setup (and duplicated saves) and note every subtype if they're galaxy specific (e.g. Eissentam is always Halcyon)

[tardy hull]

i dont remember what eissentam or calypso were

i remember i was confused about eissentam's description and scared by calypso's

[dusky kernel]

As long as I don't choose, I can reload my manual and end up back at the portal, go to another galaxy, and do it again

[dusky kernel]

Inspiring? Relentless/Ruthless?

[tardy hull]

idk

[dusky kernel]

seemed confused by that so it must be

[tardy hull]

i remember silent because i was relating it to the pacific ocean

it seemed blue and silent, like the pacific ocean, which is truly "silent"

i did not form such associations for the first two

so i forgor

and i remember improved, because it was tempting to pick it, since it was an "improved" reality

[dusky kernel]

I remember the subtype names as listed in the wiki

avoided Hilbert because "Imperfect" does not sound optimal to me

imma check the choices from Euclid today and note them

[tardy hull]

maybe it's platform specific

maybe my setup is the odd one out

now im more motivated to work on my permadeath save and advance the story

[dusky kernel]

I see the same names as you...

nope, hilbert's parallel

Relentless for Calypso, Inspiring for Eissentam, Silent for Budullangr, and Parallel for Hilbert

imma reload and see if the names are the same

names do look to be the same

now to see what it says in Hilbert

I'm expecting only Norm to be different since in Hilbert, the next one's Hesperius

[dusky kernel]

now I'm at Hilbert doing the purge

It has come to my attention that the subtype names do not matter, as they change depending on which galaxy you're in.

Here's Calypso from Euclid.

And here it is from Hilbert.

Oh, and Eissentam's serene from Hilbert.
Budullangr's ancestral.
and Hesperius is an imperfection.

[tardy hull]

so it's consistent but it's different based on a source, and possibly which save it is?

oh wow

but it's consistent for the same save and source galaxy?

[dusky kernel]

yeah, Calypso appeared as relentless twice from Euclid (I reloaded and double checked)

[dusky kernel]

I've reached Iousongola on this save, time to test if they thought of this.

[dusky kernel]

Here goes...

It's just Euclid. 😔

[velvet cypress]

💪

[rough wren]

so i just got a star seed after doing MANY MANY atlas interfaces, is there anything i should do after?

[dusky kernel]

install it in your exosuit

and when you jump galaxies, ALWAYS make sure to package it

[rough wren]

package it?

[dusky kernel]

hover over a technology module in any inventory
does it say package?

[rough wren]

ahh yes i see that, why do i need to do that?

[dusky kernel]

if you decide to jump through a galaxy center, it takes you to another galaxy but also breaks everything

[rough wren]

thats pretty shit, so just use it for going through black holes?

[dusky kernel]

if you're not doing some core jumping shenanigans, keep the star seed on you

it really helps

[rough wren]

whats its actual purpose then?

[dusky kernel]

it gives you exactly....

+1 health

it really helps in dire scenarios

[rough wren]

righty 😅

[pearl ravine]

i remember when i got teleported into space during that one mission and i burnt through like all my oxygen because i thought I was gonna die and lose all my stuff

i had like 900

[tardy hull]

new galaxy discovered!

[cloud plume]

isn't only when you install the remebrance and the star seed together and synergise them?

[merry estuary]

They each give 1 health, and when next to each other, they give 3 health combined

[cloud plume]

well, i didn't knew that, thx ^^

[solar iron]

what should i choose

the artemis fate quest thing

[fleet nacelle]

|| let him die ||

[solar iron]

what if i choose the simulation

[fleet nacelle]

|| if you let him live it doesnt go well for him ||

[solar iron]

why

[fleet nacelle]

|| he curses you and wishes you let him die because now hes stuck in forever didgital existence without end || in nms if it ever offers to kill something its usually the way out, like in monoilths

[solar iron]

oh ok

ok done

how do i disconnect myself from meta gaming

💀

[fleet nacelle]

i dunno what that is lol

[solar iron]

basically

when u play game

rp hits too hard

ur literally connected with the character

feel all emotions, imagine stuff, etc

[fleet nacelle]

how you even connected to meta gaming

[solar iron]

basically

in a nutshell

its called

in most cases

addiction

but in my case it's my brain + addiction lol

my brain has more neurons connecting emotional parts than it should

i can kinda simulate someone's emotions and possible outcomes

OIH

no

wait

not meta gaming

oh fuck

it was called differently

[fleet nacelle]

i don't watch movies for that reason haha

[solar iron]

i got depressed once 💀

after i watched some series

all 93 episodes

i watched some episodes more than once

and after i finished it

i got depressed

post-series depression syndrome

my brain connected with all characters while i was watching it

i could feel everything

hope it wont happen with nms

because i can already feel sensation of connection lol

[sour fossil]

#off-topic-bond-james-bond

[tardy hull]

i wouldn't say that's all that happens

in the end he finds peace i think

he decides to explore the solar system he has access to

[fleet nacelle]

|| oh mine just cursed me and wished that i jus killed him and ive never seen him again lol ||

|| well not kill him but left him ded ||

honestly made me feel stink about saving him, but i mean thats NMS its usually kill

[solar cairn]

Artemis or Apollo?

[dusky kernel]

Apollo said he'd race me to the center of Euclid.. little did he know I went back to the portal and spammed the first glyph lol

[solar iron]

why are black holes so important for atlas

when theres the atlas path quest

and after u interact with atlas

why does it tell u to go to a black hole lol

[dusky kernel]

go to it and see

bored, so imma throw in the names of the choices I got from Euclid

real shame there's only 2 red harsh galaxies, 5 green lush galaxies, 5 blue empty galaxies, and 19 cyan norm galaxies

I say only, but then again they're entire galaxies. Fun

[solar cairn]

Before we had portals, it was the fastest way to get to center

Or the updated portals

[solar iron]

so atlas don't know about portals?

[solar cairn]

It does

Before portals got updated, you could only stay in that system

Couldn't summon a freighter

Can't warp out due to "portal interference"

The quest was made when this was the norm with portals

[solar iron]

oh

[fleet nacelle]

what is the altas thing like that for

mine always says the same thing

[narrow sierra]

btw, am i wrong or does apollo, near the end of the artemis path (during the purge), mention something akin to "we could have a drink together before the end of the world" when he is challenging the player to a race towards the core?

crap, now i am kinda disappointed that the whole "apollo and the player having a drink together" thing does not get to happen...

[dusky kernel]

yeah

always wanted to do that lol

[uncut harness]

It does mention that, I'll try to find the text

[dusky kernel]

saw it a couple days back, I know it's real

[uncut harness]

uh

it is real, yeah

[worn rain]

Which one’s appolo again?

[uncut harness]

[worn rain]

Ohhh.. him

I don’t remember much bout him, was he the one we kept trying to find but turned out we were in different realities?

[dusky kernel]

I want those apollo shoulders lol

[solar cairn]

I want the Apollo arm and legs

[dusky kernel]

how would apollo hold a multitool

with his... claw things

[worn rain]

Thnx

[solar cairn]

He got cable arms. And cable digits, it'll be fine

[dusky kernel]

dude's got actually cool shoes unlike null

[graceful perch]

Are you ready for the greatest ship that ever flew the skies?

Booh...can't upload screen shots 😛 --> it's a sentinel ship without wings. It's basically a cockpit with landing gear and a single engine 😄

[dusky kernel]

flea?

[uncut harness]

sounds perfect for #nms-legacy-ships

[graceful perch]

basically

it's a glorious sight

[solar iron]

portal trying to be funny

teleported me in the middle of nowhere 💀

and depleted oxygen

like literally

im floating in space

💀

[daring fable]

Bro what 💀

[solar iron]

what should i choose

the choice thing

if i want to keep exploring galaxy

find final interface

[dusky kernel]

are you at the 4 galaxies or before?

[solar iron]

im at 10th galaxy

[dusky kernel]

I mean the choice between the 4 galaxies

[solar iron]

uh

its choice of 3

[dusky kernel]

you could reset, pick lush and hit Isdoraijung too 😄
doesn't actually reset though so your stuff's safe

[solar iron]

seek final interface
complete the atlas path
explore the galaxy

[dusky kernel]

it doesn't matter

[solar iron]

what

[dusky kernel]

final interface is the purge/galaxy choice, atlas path is going to a bunch of interfaces, and exploring is putting those aside for later

[solar iron]

what does atlas path end with

[dusky kernel]

star seed and the ability to see black holes on the galactic map by default

[solar iron]

i had this quest already

💀

wtf

[dusky kernel]

final interface completes the current story you're in according to the choice you described

[solar iron]

whats the best choice

[dusky kernel]

final

[solar iron]

ok where do i jump now lol

[dusky kernel]

listen to the mission

[solar iron]

reach the center of the galaxy

700k light years away 💀

[dusky kernel]

just put in a portal

works every time

[solar iron]

wha

where do i find portal lol

[dusky kernel]

you just said you went into one and it teleported you into space (part of the storyline, survive until you get to the atlas again)

[solar iron]

uh

im after talk with nada now

i just flew out of space anomaly

and got the choice

to reset, explore or complete atlas path

[dusky kernel]

reset

[solar iron]

yes and how do i find portal now lol

[dusky kernel]

get a scanner on an exocraft, and scan for alien structures

it should detect a monolith, get to it and solve the riddle, then interact with it again and locate a portal

[solar iron]

do i need this though?

isnt this mission like

jump few times in random direction

[dusky kernel]

not really

[solar iron]

what about black holes

@dusky kernel

[dusky kernel]

?

[solar iron]

how efficient are portals

compared to black holes

[dusky kernel]

VERY effecient

while black holes often throw you across the galaxy, portals can take you virtually anywhere in a given galaxy if you know what you're typing in

[worn rain]

Does every planet have a portal coordinate?

[dusky kernel]

yes

shadow stars aside ok

[worn rain]

Dope

[solar iron]

how do i use that portal lol

i cant spam the

[dusky kernel]

look for a traveller aboard a space station (holographic looking guy)

[earnest crater]

How is the list of of your bases ordered in the list displayed by a teleporter? "Normally" they seem to be ordered oldest (creation date) to youngest. But as I am working my way through the galaxies some bases seem to not be ordered that way.

[solar iron]

nvm i did it lol

[dusky kernel]

the list is broken like that

btw how's broomerrai?

[solar iron]

wtf

im in My Planet

its literally called like that

💀

wtf

[earnest crater]

Broomerrai?

[dusky kernel]

||G130, lush, cyan||

[solar iron]

at least 5k light years from core

[earnest crater]

Only just started down hill to 255. Am at 128

[dusky kernel]

oh so halfway nice

[earnest crater]

Yep. Gonna take a day off to stay sane.

[solar iron]

what the fuck

something broke

💀

i had no choice

it just teleported me to some random galaxy

[dusky kernel]

You jumped to Elkupalos, didn't you?

[solar iron]

of course EVERYTHING IS FUCKING BROKEN

WHAT THE FUCK

[solar iron]

yes

💀

i regret it already

[uncut harness]

yeah thats normal

everything breaks when you core warp

and you also dont get a choice when you core warp

[solar iron]

what

why did quest want me to get to galaxy center then

[uncut harness]

the main mission wanted you to warp 16 times

[solar iron]

💀

[uncut harness]

you dont actually have to reach the centre

[solar iron]

@dusky kernel you said i need to reach center

💀 💀 💀

[dusky kernel]

I thought that's what the mission wanted, my bad

[solar iron]

i asked u if i can just random jump to different systems lol

cuz

i looked up on wiki

[dusky kernel]

oh 🤔

[solar iron]

ima load restore point before i jumped there

[uncut harness]

there is no mission that needs you to reach the centre

[solar iron]

bruh i have epic restore point

hell planet in the middle of hell storm while some weird big ass worm is about to attack me

great

300C degrees

[solar iron]

which galaxy is lush

@dusky kernel

im in the final interface rn

[dusky kernel]

green

hit Isdoraijung.

cyan takes you back to Elkupalos, blue to Aptarkaba, and red to Ogtialabi

[solar iron]

help

its kicking in

[dusky kernel]

you're gonna crash again, but in the lush galaxy

[solar iron]

why is it so emotional

💀

omg

pink galaxy

[dusky kernel]

G19

[solar iron]

isdoraijung

should i stay here and create new bases

or go back to previous galaxy lol

[dusky kernel]

yeah, it's the same as Eissentam but pink

[solar iron]

should i create new base n stuff?

[dusky kernel]

plus if you have a base you can go back and then go back to Isdoraijung later

[solar iron]

i had guys hired in eissentam

and big base

lol

[dusky kernel]

they'll follow you when you make another

otherwise you have to get to the core and crash 9 times from Eissentam to reach Isdoraijung

[solar iron]

what to do now

with the mission

new beginnings

[dusky kernel]

that's it

[solar iron]

oh

[dusky kernel]

you're free to do whatever in your new galaxy

[solar iron]

what about the space anomaly

after i visit nada

[dusky kernel]

go back, say hi and that's pretty much it

[solar iron]

oh

when will there be more primary missions

[dusky kernel]

should be it afaik

[solar cairn]

There are Dreams of the Deep, A Trace of Metal. And that's all I think? Maybe Starbirth?

[sour fossil]

Those are all secondary missions

[solar cairn]

That's about the only missions after Artemis I can think of

[merry estuary]

Under a Rebel Star is also there

But its also a side quest

[timber sedge]

What are our thoughts on abandoned systems? Is there any lore or theories on why the space stations and systems are abandoned?

[muted nexus]

idk if spoiler or not still BUT

Were get sentinel frigate?

[dusky kernel]

I've seen them in every star color except yellow

[uncut harness]

Sentinel freighters are found anywhere

As long as the system is inhabited

[fleet nacelle]

why this happening

[worn rain]

He is everywhere, waiting for that drink

[fleet nacelle]

fr ? thats sad xD but alot of my friends have this going on their freighters the NPC's are race 4 and 5

[worn rain]

Yeah, only way to get rid of him is to finally sit down together, with a glass of whatever they like to drink in the NMS universe. Tho, not possible since we are forever apart, always close but never touching. P.S. srry if I’m being stupid, just don’t wanna make you think I’m being serious, but I am joking.

[fleet nacelle]

oh i think id rather he stuck around but all his glitchy friends can go they crashing my game xD
i dont remember that whole drink thing at all

[dusky kernel]

they show up in uncharted systems
but since he's here, why not have a drink with him lol

[cloud plume]

it's not Null, it's Apolo

XD

[boreal depot]

in what context is he there?

[dusky kernel]

wdym? that is apollo

[boreal depot]

it is modded I think.

[worn rain]

Think he meant that null is the one that said the drink thing, didn't know, just wrote that based off what someone said to me

[glass flare]

Putting this here so it's not lost in NMS channel:

• New NMS Steam branch bejryy created this morning
• Using a Caesar cipher this decodes to Orwell
• Orwell's famous book 1984 was published on June 8

[sour fossil]

Shut up, it's cipher?

But why would they introduce a whole ass new branch?

Some bigger technical changes under the hood?

But we kinda got that with Waypoint

[glass flare]

it's anyone's guess. just to be cute and tease the release date of their next update? (June 8) or to tease something really big, maybe puzzle oriented. who knows...

[sour fossil]

My crazy ass theory would be it has to do with release for Apple devices

Like a codename for a new platform

Apple has their WWDC conference at June 5-9

[glass flare]

they've released on other platforms and never created a special branch before, I kind of doubt that

[sour fossil]

Maybe it would overlap with the release of the update

[glass flare]

I mean maybe they created something for Apple's rumored AR glasses but hell they haven't even shipped the promised iPad and Mac NMS yet

[sour fossil]

True, but we are talking brand new architecture here

Does the Switch run on ARM or x86?

[glass flare]

ARM

[sour fossil]

But still Nvidias one

[glass flare]

actually you do have a point though, considering Mac's first "1984" commercial

hmm

[sour fossil]

I'm not gonna pretend I know either Switch or Apple's Mx chips

But I still think Switch can still run the same code

While for Mx it needs to be a new codebase

Unless they can opt with translation layer like Proton

[glass flare]

The commercial I mean for those that don't know it, this was the introduction of the Macintosh to the public https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtvjbmoDx-I

[sour fossil]

Lol, what are the chances

2 totally bullshit theories would converge like that

[glass flare]

a room full of monkeys creating Shakespeare, that's us lol

[sour fossil]

⌨️ 🐒

[rain magnet]

I'm new and have been playing the game over the past few weeks and am wondering if there is an issue with doing things out of order? I haven't completed The Atlas Path but I got to the point in this other quest where the whole thing is a simulation or something and the universe is goign to reset.

It seems like most of the main quests are just trying to get you to go to the center of the galaxy. Is that more or less it?

Also keep getting glyphs transmitted to me when I do the Atlas path quest, I thought you had to find graves to find the glyphs or something?

[sour fossil]

Graves are an alternative way of learning the portal glyphs

So in case players who don't feel like following the main story line

Can still learn them to use portals

For main story line you are not required to actually reach the galaxy center by warping there

Or travelling any other way

[rain magnet]

Also I see a random system I have not visited on my Galaxy Map with a spiral symbol next to it, what does that mean?

[sour fossil]

Spiral icon would indicate black hole

Seeing systems with black holes on galaxy map is a perk from completing Atlas Path

[rain magnet]

REally? I am still finding atlast terminals

[solar cairn]

It's not mosses. frigate captains pull random "NPCs"

[spice gorge]

And the Macintosh was released in 1984. Though, I'm not sure I agree with the Mac release notion for this branch.

[spice gorge]

NMS on the Switch is running on four 64-bit 1GHz ARM cores and is almost certainly using the Vulcan 3D API (like the PC). The Mac version of NMS should support any recent machines that support the Metal 3 framework. It is likely that some top-end Intel macOS systems will be supported by NMS, as some are supported by Meal 3. Apple noted in their WWDC 2022 keynote that NMS is a demo case for Apple's MetalFX upscaling, which is akin to AMD FSR.

The Mac will be a direct compile target, not an adaptation of the Switch version, certainly.

Some assembly optimizations in the code, if they exist, could be moved from Switch to Mac, saving time.

[sour fossil]

So what I wrote before, Switch uses the same code base

And version for Apple devices would require a new one

Or not?

[spice gorge]

It's the same code that executes at the CPU level -- 64 bit ARM code, bascially. But the Switch's Tegra 2 SoC and the Apple Silicon units are otherwise quite different - as far as GPU, RAM arrangement, bus, etc. So it would definitely be an entirely new code base, despite the overlap in CPU ops area.

And there's WAY more cache on the Apple ARM units, so optimizations would be very different, etc.

Earlier this year - half a year after the orig announcement, Apple again featured NMS in its M2 reveal event. My info in it, if interested:
https://nmsspot.com/2023/01/17/no-mans-sky-featured-in-apples-january-m2-silicon-event/

If it runs on recent Intel Macs that support Metal 3, then NMS would be compiled as a Universal binary, with code that can run on both Intel and Apple Silicon in the same bundle. I assume this will be the case.

( I used to run the top iOS gaming website and we were quite close (and still are) to many devs and Apple's game / graphics people. )

is why I have so many opinions on this

But this doesn't seem a reason for them to branch anew for the first time basically ever.

[sour fossil]

Yeah it can be a case of use reading wayyy too deep into it

When all that happened was Greg pushed commit build to some bullshit location

Goddamnit Greg

Get it together

[glass flare]

I think the bigger (though related) connection is that Apple's big introductory commercial for the Mac was riffing on Orwell's 1984 directly. I mean the Mac port is almost a year overdue now (along with iPad) so they've got to be coming sometime this year (right?? 😓) But the only reason I would see for HG to pull something this weird with the new branch would be if they are planning to be part of the Apple AR/VR Glasses announcement at WWDC. Which I'm sure Apple sees as a platform as big as the Mac introduction. Maybe they will do that and also release the Mac port at the same time.

[spice gorge]

Hmmm.

I wonder -- it would be quite something if Apple did a re-do of the 1984 commercial but about AR, to really put some mustard on the announcement.

Hard to see them reaching back that hard.

[glass flare]

Apple is so secretive that I'm sure HG wouldn't be apprised of any of their marketing. I only expect the dev kit to be announced at WWDC and not have glasses out until fall or winter. But the branch name could be something cheeky to hint at HG being part of it at least

[spice gorge]

Esp if supports Apple VR I was picturing NMS coming out in the Mac App Store.

I'd far prefer it to be on Steam.

[boreal depot]

ik I thought it was modded I have one of these capitains not more some freighter npcs though but I really want Mercury on my freighter @solar cairn

[timber sedge]

Hey guys i found an extinct species, how is this possible?

I was on an exotic planet with 1 type of species

and one day i load in to see another animal

i scan it

and it says its an extinct species in my register

[uncut harness]

Fauna got reset in 3.0, all fauna from before then are now labeled as extinct

[timber sedge]

Oh cool

What does that mean if ive found onne?

[uncut harness]

It means that planet was discovered by someone before 3.0

[solar cairn]

It's all random from what I could tell

[timber sedge]

If the planet was discovered by someone pre 3.0 shouldn't it say their name on it?

[mighty chasm]

Hi all.. first playthrough.. should I reset the simulation?.. have 3 options.. not sure which to choose..

[velvet cypress]

What do you feel about your options?

I don't mean to do the schoolteacher "idk, should you?" but it is truly entirely up to you

[dusky kernel]

wonder if there's any kind of list of exotics found before 3.0 🤔.... that I can travel to via portal

I know I've seen a cable pod planet with floating crab creatures exactly once

[uncut harness]

do it. you'll move to another galaxy, while you will be able to return to the previous one. just be sure to equip a ship that you don't really like, because the tech might be broken.

[dusky kernel]

if you're at that choice already you can't go back and switch ships and multitools though, it just immediately takes you to a given galaxy

[uncut harness]

oh yeah i remember

my ship is still broken

xD

[dusky kernel]

yeah you have to do all that before the final portal, at that point give in to Eissentam (if you're in a galaxy before it during the choices) to make your life a bit easier once you crash in your main lol

[uncut harness]

choose green

i did the error of choosing red

[velvet cypress]

(i like red!)

[dusky kernel]

I mean, galaxy types are really just preference lol

[dusky kernel]

orrrr you could choose dark blue in G12, land in G27, and core jump to G30 in record time

clearly if you call Calypso (or Ogtialabi or some other harsh galaxy idk) an error, then it's not particularly right up your alley for you

it's all down to personal preference
Wanna keep it standard? Cyan.
Want more exotics in your life because lush worlds are overrated to you? Blue.
Want to literally just relax and find lush worlds left and right? Green.
Want to completely suffer if you find that fun? Red.

[timber sedge]

I found this cable pod planet last week and I discovered it and the system. Somehow it has extinct creature Stough

[dusky kernel]

one could call that quite peculiar

[dusky kernel]

in a way, it's almost as if there's some planets out there that do do that and it's not the NMS version of "I know for a fact I saw this, time to start a mass lost media search for it"

[analog breach]

Void mother - cybernetic or ai entity probably with bad intentions after what geks did. Sentinels going rouge...Why im getting SYSTEM SHOCK vibes from it? 👀

[solar cairn]

Is it shocking your system?

[rough wren]

so when it comes to getting all the glyps for "the purge" mission, i heard something about when going to the galactic core it destroys your ship basically, is that true? cause i dont really wanna get all 16 glyphs and then travel, just to have my ship blown up 😅

[velvet cypress]

You cannot lose a ship except by selling it or scrapping it yourself. Even if your ship is destroyed, it respawns with you.

...
but you may consider switching ships and multitools anyway. Less of a "you'll lose them" than a "oh, damn, that's inconvenient"

[rough wren]

oh yeah dw i know it cant be fully destroyed and taken from me, but im best off acquiring a ship just for that final trip, and putting my indium drive in it along with getting a new multitool?

[velvet cypress]

Maybe. it's an annoyance at worst, and a cool effect besides.

i usually just eat the consequence of using my main ship and tool lol

[rough wren]

ahh okay 😅

or do i just go for it, and just have to cope with the repairs on my main? (im short on money for a ship and a multitool)

[velvet cypress]

Go for it!

[rough wren]

😏👌

[velvet cypress]

Try everything once. Life is a banquet of experiences, varied and grand.

[rough wren]

words to live by

[rough wren]

so, im speaking to atlas about resetting the simulation, i dont want conclusions of each outcome (if there are any) i just want a suggestion

Ask if there is another way
Reset Simulation
Refuse the Atlas

(i dont wanna choose a wrong option and end up potentially ruining the game {if thats possible})

option 2 chosen... 😅

[heady wyvern]

Reset, yes

[rough wren]

chosen, but now its onto creating a galaxy

[merry estuary]

You cant ruin the game really

[sour anvil]

Where did it say that Laylaps was affiliated with the Abyss? I saw it on tvtropes but can't find the line

[solar cairn]

I've haven't heard of that

You trust that source?

[upbeat forge]

came by to say I feel BAD for Artemis. I f||uck||ed up.

[merry estuary]

How come

[upbeat forge]

||I made the simulation of artemis aware they are in a simulation and now they are depressed. How depressed would they be to find out they are in a simulation of a simulation..?||

[merry estuary]

Well. I put them to rest for a reason.

But the debate whether a depressed life is better than living in a lie, or death is endless

[uncut harness]

Sentinel pillar lore

[cloud plume]

Just some theorie, if you put artemis in the simulation, does time accelerat for him or no? like an Inception thing, the deeper you go in the simulations inside the simulations, the faster time goes.

[merry estuary]

I dont see a need or reason for it to accelerate

[cloud plume]

well, is it's true, maybe the atlas is searching a way to escape death, maybe the abyss is the upper lvl? and the simulation where we can put artemis is a lower lvl, where time goes even faster

[timber sedge]

Summoned by peaceful geks mention of sentinel pillars, here are some excerpts from the sentinel pillars that mentions laylaps with the abyss

17th Encounter of a Sentinel Pillar

Before the Traveller found me, I heard a voice in the darkness. She gave me a name. Laylaps. An old name. She said it would be known to the Traveller. She told me I had suffered much, and would suffer more. “Little drone, whose end was so like my own." Thus did the abyss whisper.

Excerpt from 19th Encounter of a Sentinel Pillar from the perspective of Laylaps

The Abyss, the Families of Glass, we are in agreement. We will not die a second time.

[velvet cypress]

had a dream where there was a craftable tech for the senticeptor that granted massive bonuses, but replaced part of the skybox with the inside of an atlas interface

[rough wren]

@arctic dock is this for the 16 glyphs you need to get?

[dusky kernel]

win-win tbh

I'd install it

[velvet cypress]

in the moment, it was absolutely terrifying

10/10 would recommend

[dusky kernel]

I'd imagine like, the skybox is what you see from the inside(?)

I mean tbf my system would fit well with it, sky's blood red

[earnest crater]

The galaxy map after reaching 240. Kind of hard to use.

[sour fossil]

What in tarnation

[timber sedge]

Holy convergence

[dusky kernel]

looks a bit like 242 to me

and cool, another excuse for me to aim for 239 in anomaly teleporter roulette

[analog breach]

Thats why im always trying to find my own gate system

[dusky kernel]

easily worth it

[earnest crater]

Yeah it's worth it. btw, those bases are my bases, but in other galaxies. When I am in a system with >16 bases shown on the galaxy map I am almost always first contact for the system.

[earnest crater]

Yeah, probably. I knew it was between 240 and 245 but was too lazy to check

10 more to go, but will have to wait until Friday.

[dusky kernel]

I have 2 systems next to my portal base system in galaxy 38 with base markers and it showed first contact for me on both. Weird

[solar cairn]

Hey, has there been anything new datamined?

[velvet cypress]

I suppose it's possible to upload a base on a planet and system that hasn't been uploaded yet?

could be something weirder and more bug-shaped, too

[glass flare]

gimme those sweet space stations HG

[dusky kernel]

I'm literally the kind of guy to memorize off of the order of the core colors and numbers and I don't know how it came to this

[dusky kernel]

I didn't upload them prior at all, heck, they were even first contacts

[velvet cypress]

Ohhhh, your bases

...sense is thus made, lmao, i was way out in left field with that one soz

[dusky kernel]

...nor did I see any base markers on any of the planets, yet the systems showed them in space

[shell rover]

yo just finished the main story so basically is the whole story a loop of restarting the atlas?

[shell rover]

late but they somehow automatically know about that later regardless of what you choose

[hallow gyro]

I killed Artemis

Ez

[unborn bough]

Artemis was already dead.

[hallow gyro]

Then I killed Atlas

[unborn bough]

That is not a possibility in this game. :3

[unborn bough]

Very.

[uncut harness]

I am confused about the lore. Did the gek cause the sentinels to go rogue or smthing

[tender barn]

Reading the sentinel pillar lore is helpful

Each entry expands on the lore set

The short answer, to the best of my knowledge, is no

But I’m by no means an expert, nowhere close to it

[shell rover]

nah the sentinels that went rogue were on a pararllel universe the ones on the universe we're playing on are normal, the ones on the parallel universe went rogue because of bad atlas emotions

[velvet cypress]

Some of them are not very normal any more lol

[shell rover]

most of em 😩

[velvet cypress]

Sentinels: I am very normal about {khhht} i do not suffer from the traumatizing memories of {khhht} prime i will not shoot the next sound that reminds me of {khhht}

please do not touch my expansive rock garden

[timber sedge]

Kind of. If you are talking about the current universes sentinels, the Gek were one factor that caused them to depart from their standard protocols.

Excerpt of the 10th Encounter of a Sentinel Pillar

The First Spawn of the Gek melted Korvax Prime for metal and profit. The planet did not protest. It did not cry. It did not make a noise at all, at least not that they could hear.
The First Spawn, which was the dominant Gek subtype during this era destroyed Korvax Prime and "It did not make a noise at all, at least not that they could here".

11th Encounter of a Sentinel Pillar

We witnessed Korvax Prime's death again and again, a constant wail across the multiverse. Its scream was a cry that no being could hear but us. But. One day, a drone fought back when a Vy'keen cub attempted to carve into the mother planet. One day, another obliterated an entire Gek cabal. The Atlas did not prevent this.
The sentinels were the only ones who could hear its scream. After this event, it says that a drone fought back when a Vykeen cub attempted to carve into a mother planet. Another drone then destroyed a group of Geks. The sentinels noted that the atlas didn't do anything about this

Excerpt of the 13th Encounter of a Sentinel Pillar

We began to archive everything. Any settlement. Anything that reminded our sensors of Korvax Prime, its screams, its dissolution. Anything that sounding like mining, like extraction, like murder...
Due to the destruction of Korvax prime, the Sentinels began to "archive" everything, essentially becoming the sentinels we know today

TL;DR
The Gek were a factor in the Sentinels going rogue because they destroyed Korvax Prime (Home planet of the Korvax) and cheesed the sentinels off who started destroying anything that reminded them of Korvax Primes death

[unborn bough]

I cried when I completed the Sentinel Pillar and Boundary Failure lore.

[timber sedge]

Indeed. I wish there was more Sentinel Pillar lore as its my favourite source of knowledge

[earnest crater]

So in making the final push to 255 I encountered something that hadn't happened previously. After jumping from 246 to 247 (in my poorly equipped starship) I summoned an undamaged starship and warped to the indicated core system. Then I built a minimal base (teleporter, biofuel generator), summoned my freighter and portalled to it. I then went to the flight deck and changed back to my "jump" starship, did the minimal repairs, went into space and the galaxy map did not show I was in a core system. In fact the low hyperdive range of this ship did not allow warping anywhere. So I went back to the freighter and tried a couple of other ships and the freighter as well and they all showed the core was reachable. I then installed an S-Class hyperdive upgrade in the minimal ship (extending its range from 106 ly to something like 350 ly and magically the system was now a core system to that ship. A long way to get to my question. I thought a core system was a core system, but apparently it also depends on hyperdrive range?

Also 😀

[velvet cypress]

#nms-questions message
ahahaaaa ahhh that's funny
probably just a coincidence but i saw it immediately

777 being a number connected to religious concepts of the heavens (i think. im no numerologist), and then being sandwiched in 16, means the value of nip nip could be read as "the value is the way to get high in no mans sky"

[analog breach]

7 in christianity means completion, divine fulfilment and perfection. 6 is imperfection

in old hebrew there was no gradation like good , better ,the best so you used same multiple times (good, good ,good) or 777-most perfect or 666 - most imperfect

[boreal depot]

What do you think The'll do next?
Maybe the stations?
Have there been new stuff found by datamining ?

[analog breach]

Some time ago there was some mined space stations new designs. No new stuff from what i know.

[solar cairn]

I don't think the stations will be next

I'm thinking of a Summer expedition update. Maybe QoL?

[analog breach]

New Stations could be part of new exp. Qol and fixes for ps4 pls 🙏 after all the other platforms focused updates , it lags behind.

[solar cairn]

PS4, Xbox 1, and Switch

To be fair, they need to fix stability a wee bit more before adding another potentially game destabilizing update

[glass flare]

PS5 is bad too. framedrops, low-res texture detail still a thing. I get that they like to keep to a cadance of bug fixes and then go silent, but they didn't fix the biggest bugs this time

i would love stations next, but I think it will be a Mac and iPad port release next

early June, to tie in with Apple's dev conference

[analog breach]

I Didint know that ps5 have problems.

[solar cairn]

It's mostly visual, and rendering issues I've noticed.

We don't really get frequent crashes like older gens

[spiral mica]

I went into a atlas station why is there a floating member of each species?

[glass flare]

the Atlas is so good at predicting future events that it predicted Death Stranding

[tidal mason]

how is the population of the universe so small with the civilisation still working

like a space station is the main centerpoint and that barely has that many people

on the systems there arent any real big cities or anything

where tf are the ppl and how does this universe even function with this severe lack of manpower

[spiral mica]

Settlements

Jk

The sentinels appeared vykeen went to war almost won gek interfered enslaved korvax korvax threw corpses into breeding pools stopping them from being enlslaved and in the process all home planets were lost