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I've mainly been going off of my memory
I could probably draft one, given a day or two off from work
so are the galaxies themselves different simulations?
like, there's supposed to be 1 traveller in Euclid vs one in ...Enjaxusanto or Cuzcogipper (besides that every traveller is really just the same but copied)
so every time you jump, it's really just starting another you in a different.. wait what?
alright, at some point I'll start one if you're interested
you, or another you because I thought it was like "jump from Euclid, old you stays there, you, as in the player, control another you but in Hilbert"?
you are always the last traveller
Definitely
every traveller's the last
only you are the last
and everyone is the same traveller
Yeah, how travellers go from 1 iteration to the next is unclear
But all Travellers were created from the same data
Every traveller is the creators mind scanned and given form, yes
I thought it was just from death, but now I have to add core jumping into the mix
but not every traveller is the same
We don't even know how they die
death does not bring about a new iteration
you die and remain the same, null has died and remained the same
There were some Derelict Freighter logs that said a crew found out one was a traveller, and repeatedly killed them for resources
They always came back
oh yeah it says "generation" instead of iteration whoops
But we do know Travellers can go to the World of Glass
Meaning, a deletion could occur. Assuming the world of glass is the "deleted space"
what does the world of glass look like according to the lore?
I've heard the construction gek talk about it
Nobody knows, not that I'm aware of
Overseer Gek is sus as hell
the world of glass is glass
Our depository of accumulated data became a heaven and a hell. If you could live there, you would see only light.
You would see only glass.
yeah I kinda just assume it's that purple glass, maybe mixed with the glass column planet, but spread out on a very large or infinitely wide scale underneath space itself
so many glass related updates lately, is HG really building up to something or just filling in the lore gaps
I think for a lore project it would need to be separated into 'internal' and 'external' lore
glass
where internal is everything that happens within the sim (gek, korvax, vykeen lore etc) and external is everything that is not bound to the simulation (boundary failure, wt etc)
seeing as they aren't too interlinked
They are very loosely linked, but this is a smart idea to look at a "Simulated" lore
And Outer Lore
They are linked, but its impossibly difficult to pair them chronoligically
Can't help but think of the Millions of other races, before the boundary failures and repeated patterns... Could travellers exist during that time?
always thought these planets were a representation of the WoG, only in the sim and more tame
there are almost no hints as to when things happened internally and externally in comparison to each other
It's like reading results from an experiment, series of experiments.
And an overall drama of the scientist's life, with experiments in tandem.
Looking back at the BCA stuff I think it is still plausible that its null
I wonder what series of events caused Null to be what they are now.
I think the answer lies in linking ToM, BCA and sentinel pillars
maybe boundary failures too
I'm gonna take the time to dig in the ARG, see what I could find in there
how he went from exploring, realizing it all really meant nothing, to getting a light as a head
yeah I wish I knew too
Funnily enough, even the light head has lore too
I kinda want to know of the other races. The iteration ambassadors we see in the anomaly. Hypothetically, they all were travellers before Atlas repeats itself in predictions and before boundary failures.
and our own story
If I have time today, or later on tomorrow. I'll see if I can start the Framework on lucid Spark.
And have a section off hand for related materials, like Raw Data excerpts, and the ARG website to pull from.
Im working on something at the moment
heard of some botched appearance modifier factory and the workers made their heads light, except it didn't only look like light from the outside, but it was light. they presumably died a horrible death
Although Im a bit busy, I'll see how it turns out
Something like that. They were working on the tech to replace one's head with light. And there were many failures.... And headless corpses
So far I have a line with internal on the top and external on the bottom
Sounds good.
I'm currently in Clinic for School, and then have to work 8 hours. Probably won't get much done iirc
So does null's head only look like light or really is just light?
*casually working 14 hours... *
I don't think there is anything organic left of Null or Apollo.
Null became what his name is .. Nothing.
He has ribbon cabled arms and legs, no head. Only light and cables
At least Apollo still had a shred of personality left
null is called null for a reason, should've seen that one coming
Or if Null was the First to escape the world of glass.
I believe it's Factory Logs.
that sucks
I'll check the Raw Data Site
they aren't stored
I don't really know if this is a spoiler but I just noticed that rememberance and star seed interact
I don't know how...
but they both have a white line around them indicating a symbiotic relationship
They have adjacency bonus
thats a technical feature
It gives you an extra health pip when you have them together
pip?
I'm having a hard time finding it on the Raw Data Site too. But I distinctly remember reading it
Wonder if the Website Owner is willing to help
which site?
Apollo still has their brain and organs left. They're like Robocop or Darth Grievous.
Idk about - null- tho
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Made by a Fan it seems.
True. Yeah.
does that have datamined lore somewhere on it?
Lore? No
Well, it does have logs of what we already have seen. But nothing that we don't already know
Most datamined content it has, is the QS items
I wonder if the wiki has all the factory logs/NPC interactions etc
stuff that isnt stored in collected knowledge
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I didn't know if you wanted that or not, sorry.
I sometimes use it as reference, if I can't look in the files myself
I might ask the Website owner if they would like to help our project. And or make a video of the completed thing.
Taking a look at the website some more. Alantdeum refined to pungeum... In a process of "Restoring Harmony"
Hmm so the influence of the Abyss is spreading as a change in the pugneum?
Man wouldn't it be great if we ever went to the remains of what was Korvax Prime?And when you enter the system it's basically a whole new system filled with technollogy from every star-to moon-to space station even the planets as well.And it also would be nice to be having smth similar to this song when we enter in that system https://youtu.be/_ah9ISyAM6I
The Dissonance
Possibly
As a fellow Guardian, I love that track you linked.
My brother in Light, didn't think i would find someone who played Destiny in here ^^
Per Audacia Ad Astra!
I'll see you starside!
We do got Hunter drip since the Outlaws update!
This looks like Other Games and Media to me
apparently you can move the camera during the galaxy switching cutscene and I found out just now
it's like with the loading screen
you can move the camera there too
What is that big like stargate structure?
you mean a portal?
Relic gate maybe
Sooo about the new stations
Has anyone talked about how they all seem to have big thrusters on the back?
More prominently than the thrusters that sometimes appear on current stations
well i saw a couple youtubers mention it. personally i think they're just decoration
Same. I doubt the stations themselves will move or anything.
They are going to follow you around actually
Yeah I doubt it's anything
Unless if we can own them, they might be summonable
But other than that
Holy shit I just found my first friend Artemis after such a long time (and 2 years irl)
I've been following a black box this entire time?
That's dark
It might be a customization point, and nothing more. Like Freighter Engines... They don't do anything, but look cool
Does anyone know that the prefix auto (meaning self) and the suffix phage (meaning devour) together making autophage (the new race in interceptors) would mean self-devourers. idk, probably just a conspiracy, but freaky.
yeah I've mentioned it before. Autophagy is a thing in biology, where cells consume parts of themselves that are considered useless or damaged. I assume the inference is the same here, that these robots were considered not worth keeping around
I just uploaded Artemis to the simulations
What about all the other graves I find around the universe, can I use another mind arc and give him company?
No
๐ฆ
At least I brought him back from the dead in some way
How do I talk to him in the simulation btw? (I don't want to spoil others in the other channel)
Kanaju on YouTube made an interesting point
They changed the icon colour for bio horrors to purple
||So nada is from a different universe right?||
||And so are the sentinals?||
||How exactly did they end up in this universe?||
Oh
as of Nada. I'm kinda unsure of their origin. I recall they're from outside of the simulation or sumthing
someone please correct me if I'm wrong

from the Sentinel Pillar lore: A Korvax and a Gek fled their people. Hands held in the void, they inhabited an anomaly. A meeting place in the stars. A nexus. A place of hope. We left it alone. We did not interfere. We just watched them, and wondered.
how Nada and Polo became aware of the the nature of their reality or gained sentience beyond other NPCs is unknown to me though
Jaws theme plays
One universe
AND still don't know beyond Atlas simulation. They too get reset
Nada is from another universe, polo is from ours
So far I've just put down a line to separate internal and external horizontally, and a smaller line in the middle to designate 16, where we are now
So just a big timeline
@solar cairn I'll try to put some more stuff on it tomorrow and grab you a link, then we can start building stuff up
Sounds good!
I know this is from days ago but i think i remember one when i was doing the quest that was babbling about seven and then when i gave it the Atlantideum it said seventeen, dont know if it helps but all i can think it could be related to the 16 minutes till shutdown thing
I figured that was a bug
It is in a way
I'm starting to wonder. Are the 'boundaries' between realities that are falling different partitions? Is deleted information finding its way to a small cache the atlas can't flush out?
Or.... What if the Atlas is really a power plant? Not really simulating entire universes, but a tool of a type III civilization stuck creating small localized galaxies to harness them as power?
Perhaps it's not 16 minutes until the end of everything, perhaps it's 16 minutes until the technician gets back from his hour lunch
I thought these boundaries were partitions between "instances" of the simulation - i.e. player sessions which all take place in the same galaxy/universe, but are mostly separate.
I've been wondering about that too, like what if the Atlas didn't make Travellers like it thinks, what if the creator didn't abandoned it at all but has lived so long in so many different lives the creator is trapped in its own simulation with nothing but a nagging feeling there's something unremembered, and an urge to see everything. Or perhaps the creator uploaded its mind into the atlas itself and the resulting new being does nothing but create and fear death
it's always been a bit vague to me because they tried to shoehorn an explanation of multiplayer into the idea of iterations of the simulation
And then try to fight Travellers in other simulations being actually people with the same breath
When I was new, I couldn't help but wonder if NMS was themed to be one of those futuristic based games where you actually went inside the game and lost all memory of the outside world while you played
Like our character was just someone sitting in a net Cafe hooked to a chair for an hour playing a few million years of a game before work
well, that's what the Dreamers basically were in the Waking Titan ARG. the VR device used players' dream state to interact with the simulation
Well if lore is to be believed the creator left and as a parting gift allowed atlas to upload a digital reconstruction of their brain
high five my vy'keen brothers
did artemis die
oh
so he doenst die
oh its a choice
upload artemis or kill him
Artemis is already dead before you ever meet them
Yep
yea but how was he talking to us
You talking to voicemails
WHAT!
They aren't
so he isnt actually responding to us?
What?!
again
Just you killing you, cause you said you could choose
Artemis is you
i thought apolo was the alien
so im dead
why do people say " The hardest choice"
if u caared about the story so much and u love artemis
just upload him
It's all perspective
From theirs, they likely thought that putting them in is imprisoning them.
No
You are another iteration
We are all in the sim
The same
But different
Over and over and over and over
we're all simulated so no one is really dead
what!1
WHAT
okay so that just ruined it
Spoilers bruv
lmfao
going to the spoilers channel and being like "BRO!!! dont spoil it!!"
things 'die' in the simulation
the simulation ends
and repeats
endless cycles
Wouldn't it be cool if they take us to the end of the sim, and then the next Update we wake up to 1.0 gen, but current aesthetics?
And then loop through the variations again
...
Sean
if any game had an ingame lore reason for the big ole Reset Button it's this one ๐คฃ
That side of the story is heavily answered within Waking Titan.
Which as a new player, is tough to understand at first but fills in the gaps once you've "finished" NMS.
The creator
We presume from the lore that humans made it
it was mentioned?
am i close to the end of the game
there's glimpses, hints
F W/RE. ๐
Talking to yourself
Do what you say to do
forget about artemis died
You gotta, it's the rules
getting there, there's more
๐คท
3 hours 37 minutes
depends how focused you are on doing it
16 minutes
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The main Storyline aka The Artemis Path missions are:
- Awakenings
- Alone Amidst the Stars
- Ghosts in the Machine (requires progression in Expanding the Base secondary quest)
- A Leap in the Dark
- The First Traveller
- Patterns in Time
- 16 / 16
- The Purge (16 warps in any direction; does not require travelling to the core)
- New Beginnings
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๐ Did you know? The Atlas Path and mission The Purge can be completed in tandem.
Which mission
Lmao
12 hours 5 minutes
save editors can do this right?>
Then after you got 3 more stories to do.
just skipping the story?
lmao
3 STORIES??
theres one
the artemis
That's the main one.
the story is pretty long
Then you got Dreams Of The Deep which is underwater, Atlas Path and Traces Of Metal or whatever it's called.
Base Missions kinda.
Yo yo
you will get a reward for finishing it but you also get a ton of rewards along the way. it's more of a tutorial really.
Don't forget about the pirates
And the pirates!
do i have to go through them??
the story so repetetive
Short but sweet
Rewards are worth all of them though.
Even Laylaps the innocent getterer in the wayer is pretty cool.
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yea

Yes
yes
what is it
What is your platform username?
Lol
what is the name of the protagonist
The main char is gdsade
The what now
Typo
gdsade
no, the main character doesnt have a set name. it's just you.
okay
You are referred to as 2394829084924924924G.
You are a traveler
ohh
One of many
Alone but part of infinite
why numbesr
4924G
why not letters
iterations
To better control you
492g
Traveller count I guess. That's you.
i thought the iteration was the name of the "universe," not us
One universe per traveler itโs meant to be, I think
yeah
But the boundaries are breaking
We about to meet Mum. ๐ฉ
each universe instance is named like F48820G83 and has a traveler named whatever our name is
I really want to use the failures to ship warp galaxies
Oh damn yes.
We got to "use" them once
Quite literally the Sellotape of the universe.
That was fun
one day i'm gonna find my perfect base spot with a portal and a boundary failure within 300u on a flat plane
or 600u or however big a base is
When
what'd they do
Ah I started playing like the update before Waypoint
Smiled and waved.
A good month or so before waypoint
We used them to align and read some lore tidbits pertaining to the mission
Feeding the weird fractures on planets
Probably Void mommy
Still sounds weird
I can only picture a purple orb fronted with a medusa mask.
That what you're picturing now too huh?
What happens when u reset simulation
Simply described as new game plus.
You'll keep your stuff (mostly broken) and be in a new universe.
just call it the atlantid instead of being a Lesser Voice imo

||Drink the water.||
I always pictured the abyss very vaguely - like a chthonic nightmare you can't describe
I like that.
even on sruvival?
wait
new survival
new universe?
so how will you play with people on different universe
you can take teleporters to each others' bases
just group w/ them
there's a meeting place called the anomaly
It's why it's so difficult.
Described as similar to the Atlas in power, and the Atlas manifests differently - it doesn't have a physical presence is what I guess I'm trying to say.
NMS game play space is huge.
thats why its a difficult desicision?
i've only ever run into one other player
i think
we did some derelict freighter missions. pretty good experience
"universes" are basically your save games
You're in Euclid now. Everyone starts in Euclid.
euclid is a galaxy
no
you're in a new galaxy
there are 257? galaxies
but only 255 are normally accessible i think
you can interact with travelers (players) from other universes (saves) because the boundaries are breaking
@uncut harness
Wrong word, my apologies.
going to the galactic core takes you to a new galaxy
but
up to 255. then it loops back to euclid
ya
so can you pick your own galaxy when u go in core
and how is it possible
going to the galactic core
the galaxy sequence is fixed
its 300k light eyars away from me
the first time you galaxy jump, you get a choice, but it's a pseudo-choice. choosing anything other than galaxy 2 just takes you to galaxy 3 or 4 ot 5
eissentam is the best right
Eissentam is a lush galaxy
yea but how
but there are lots of those
eissentam is the first lush
i don't think it's different from the other lush galaxies
personally i prefer harsh galaxies
Yeah the galaxies have some different spawn chances, so it's all about what you like to see more of
But you can still find anything, in any of them
in early game it's pretty hard to get there since you can't warp very far and probably don't have portal glyphs or scanner tech, but later on your freighter goes like 5.5k ly per warp and you can portal to within 2 jumps of the gateway system
for example i'm just chain galaxy jumping by scanning down a monolith with my exocraft, answering its riddle to locate a portal, building a small base with a teleporter and shelter, portaling to the gateway system, jumping to the next galaxy and repeating the process
Why
lots of aggressive sentinels and extreme weather
is the galaxy after eissentam harsh?
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Galaxy #256 (Odyalutai) is only reachable via save editor or joining someone there.
so i gotta travel 2 more to get to a harsh
is it just me or do the korvax cause most of the problems in the galaxy
How so?
are victims of genocide and displacement
โWhy are you guys such issues!โ
but like most of their experiments cause wierd shit to happen
Lol that's a fair point
They do some bad things, but imo they have the least blood on their hands
Less than some of the travellers
Theyโre a semi hive mind who came from a living planet made in atlasโ image, unsurprising theyโre weird
i mean what have the vy'keen done to screw over most of the galaxy
The aeron wars
what was that i forgot
Justified
Endlessly fighting a war against the sentinels that they could not win
They didnโt know that
Endangering anyone who came across it
They knew it would spill blood
And they knew it would be a long war
i mean the korvax cause problems but the gek were mega evil at one point
What galaxy wide problems did the Korvax cause?
they just manifest weird shit like living ships
Am I right in saying if the Vyโkeen didnโt fight the sentinels they could have beaten the gek, because the Korvax were strongest before they had Prime destroyed
Korvax Prime did that, not the race
I mean, living ships and other void entities were created by the destruction of Korvax prime
So pin that on the gek
Also I wouldn't say that living ships have major long lasting negative affects across the whole galaxy
Is there anything negative about them
They're ugly.
thats just you
if the korvax were the strongest, they wouldn't have had korvax prime destroyed
Atlas is "God".
Khhht/Kzzzt is broken or missing data.
yeahh, soz about that
I thought it was incredibly obvious the first time i played (no that's not an excuse) (imma stop apologizing now i know what i sound like)
game calls you a compliant or noncompliant anomaly approx 16 seconds after you find your ship, with assorted other clues that it's a diegetic simulation
there's a thing called atlas, which in this reality is both the name of a titan that holds up the sky, and the word for a book of maps
Somnal dust have same icon as atlantideum hmm๐ค
probably no relation.... but its no man's sky, it could be ๐ค
Nms reuses a ton of textures
they called Raldwicarn Raldwicam ๐ญ
From Eissentam, #15 Ogtialabi is harsh.
wait a minute
we are not supposed to be in galaxy odyalutai
are we...
good question
but it's still there
oh yeah
somehow idk if the, galaxy names seemingly randomly generated, but fixed...
first 5 are deliberate, #45 Ebyeloof was originally named Ebyeloofdud
i will never get the point of galactic core, and the point of this game
as if, we are supposed to visit every single galaxy
just type 










at a portal
kinda like what you just did
frenchconnectionuk
Question about the story โฆ if I go through the portal โฆ will my ship and multi tool be damaged? Should I switch to trash?
This is for โA leap in the darkโ โฆ Iโm at the portal part of the mission for Apollo
Ah really! Thatโs great to know
Kinda โฆ the story is a bit everywhere
These portalsโฆ is it best to put a base outside oneโฆ so you have an instant access to a portal going forward?
I do that for each galaxy I visit, yes
Went through the portal part of the story. Planet Iโm on has actual earth trees on it 0.0
whats derelict
Not really a spoiler. You can also ask about derelicts in #nms-questions 
they said it was
Who said it was?
Did you ask in #nms-questions? It's just a ship you can loot. I do recommend the help channel to learn how to find one and what you can get from it. The game should point you to one as the quests progress iirc.
Sleep so we can mess with your brain
I'll bet!
zzzz~
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||dammit, was Artemis dead all the time from we meet her at first time? it was just her hologram?||
Maybe
It's unclear, iirc. been a while since i walked the path.
regardless, ||it's up to you to decide if your interactions with her were meaningful, in light of what you now know.||
oh so i was mean to her? ๐
Apollo will think so
๐
Yes. Technically
Also, no need to spoiler tag here
does the artemis quest line lead into the atlas quest line?
nevermind, i was closer to the end than i thought
They are kinda intertwined, but separate things
kk @solar cairn
should i do the atlas path before going to the center
anyone know the fastest way to jump towards the center, i gotta race apollo
Each one will require you to go to the center
Oh, this won't matter
i know it was a joke lol
so it would be better to get the main parts of both out of the way then go center
Probably
So Im a little confused ngl. Is the whole universe is a simulation run by the atlas? Why? What about the other universes like the one destroyed by the sentinels? What is the difference between travelers and anomalies? Since everyone in the actual anomaly structure is called iteration are they just the same person being reincarnated? Are we the players one of the iterations?
Those are just iterations
And... The short answer is: yes
hey! that noises break speaking with Apollo or Artemis (don't remember) wasn't that her Freighter pilot trying to find help?, where we found it's wreckage in some planet?
it was really quick dialogue and radio noises
do you know what i mean?
You mean when the dialogue is interrupted by static noise....?
yeah exactly
Well static noise is static noise... Unless they were words in the mix, it dont mean anything
kk
think it gave me an egg for euclid and one for the new one
One is like a ghost if I remember correctly.
Quite a sad story really isnโt it?
Like itโs very depressing some of the dialogues
Just got up to doing the 3 cartographer missions.
Stupid mission for the korvax cartographer plopped me on an ocean planet with no landfall for 16 IRL minutes looking for a landing
What a cruel cruel mission
Oh yeah... NMS is not a happy story at all
I can not find any endings or videos detailing all 16 endings of "The Stranger"I wonder why NMS timed these questlines, they are super interesting
Took me ages to realize who's code we are using to hack into Sentinel Pillars too, the impsoter.
as impossible as it may be, if I ever manage to get the minotaur in the anomaly like I've seen many other times, "Ariadne" is the first and only one going down
Whose is it?
Ariadne?
Yeah!
The pillar identifies you as imposter, I was looking up those timed weekend missions with quest. Seems like she got replaced by something or someone darker, the same Iteration we see right now in the hub
It also says something like personality code ari4dne
Aye! [IMPOSTER DETECTED]
I saw it onYoutub and was like "Goddamn.." New players or returning players like me are returning that crucial context because the content isn't available any more (which sucks)
So from what I understand, is the corrupted sentinels are influenced by the void mother/the abyss/atlantid. I understand that the sentinels stopped letting telamon access their logs and became more agressive to anything that reminded them of korvax prime dying. Do/will the sentinels still listen to atlas or are they completely doing their own thing?
Sents listening to atlas doesnt make much sense to me
The OG Adiadne seemingly got murdered and replaced by something, after she decided to seek out the Abyss
And the Sents are aware of it, doubt she ever had allegiance to them
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I was just thinking because, Imposter implies there was once an Ariadne who was authorised no?
they dont listen to atlas anymore. they were the Aerons but they took the Atlas' silence toward them as a command. They began archiving everything that reminded them of Korvax Prime. So, if the atlas were to give an order, after all this silence, would the sentinels still follow it?
Anymore. That I can get behind, wouldnt make much sense to me for them to attack the atlas' creation when atlas was speaking to them
Thats the thing, they only began to become more aggressive to the atlas creation when it stopped speaking. An excerpt from sentinel pillar encounter 11 "One day, a drone fought back when a Vy'keen cub attempted to carve into the mother planet. One day, another obliterated an entire Gek cabal. The Atlas did not prevent this."
I am collecting all the pillar lore myself but I read what Spherion said a few days ago too
They took it as allowance
yeah thats what im thinking. They deviated more and more bc atlas seemed to not care
Same with their physical form. They were once raw routines and then were willed int oexistence
After that, they were seemingly (increasingly) untethered
going from killing 1 vykeen cub to slaughtering a gek caal
they seem to stray further and further
Every day, we stray further from god...
But what im wondering is, if the atlas gave an instruction, would they listen? Would they obey? They took the silence as a command, what about an actual command?
Are they still tethered to the atlas
Im not sure. Atlas is supposed to be omnipotent, but it doesnt know of the anomaly from what I understand
It doesn't know because its own protocols are being used against it.
Or it does, and doesnt care either
Basically created a blind spot, I forgot what Polo exactly called it.
Anomaly: something that deviates from what is standard, normal, or expected.
if it is expected that the atlas is omnipotent and sees everything, the anomaly may be an actual anomaly that means that atlas cant see it would be expected to
Yesh, I know what an anomaly is lol
Lol, I had to research the definition as i knew the gist but not what it actually mean ๐
How uncultured of you
:P
Point is, there are things outside of atlas control. Maybe the sentinels managed something similar
Huh, that would make sense
Im also thinking about the description of sentinels on corrupted worlds, how it says "Sharded from the atlas". Does this mean the normal sentinels are still connected to the atlas and corrupted are removed? Or does it just mean that the corrupted sentinels have strayed much further from the path of atlas than the normal sentinels who have already strayed?
I think at least the corrupted ones are no longer connected to the atlas. The normal ones may still be, or at least think they do his will, but the corrupt ones... they behave similarly though
Difference might be, that if the atlas was to give an order, the normal sents were forced to follow, the corrupted ones wouldnt
But all of them believe they fulfill his will
Then again, you said they were willed into existence by atlas, right?
Yeah that sounds about right. The corrupted ones use mor unorthodox methods probably from the influence of the void mother. Theyre change in appearence and arachnid forms along with different weapon types
yeah, it was in one of the sentinel logs, let me find it
Cause that makes me wonder, if the atlas willed them into existence, could they exist outside of its...will? Disconnected?
Also, I need info on void mother.
the thing I was thinking about is the fact that the Korvax Prime was a "copy" of the atlas, so if it truly that similar in power, the abyss could be shaking that Sentinels faith in the atlas through its "song" causing Sentinels to question the atlas and disconect
Summarised version from what I know is that it is the dead remains of Korvax Prime, the first convergeance and it influences the corrupted sentinels. It has planted nanites in half the water in the universe hence the warnings "do not drink the water". It has died once but does not want to die again hence the takover of sentinels and corruption of water sources using the nanites. Thats what I've gathered
This also plays in line with the Korvax wanting to reach "atlashood" through mathematics
That makes sense
Excerpt from 1st sentinel pillar
Once, we had no need for visual manifestation or physical form. Our invisible eyes would record, sort, delete the life and death of every world there ever was or would be. We had no thoughts, no personality, no dreams.
2nd pillar (unabridged)
The day we first gained flesh, metal though it was โ it was the day we began to fail. The Atlas turned its dreams towards fiction. It began to create worlds in which it would no longer be invisible. In these worlds, we too gained shape. But we were given no new protocols, no new instructions.
Lore is fascinating
But that does sound like they could be just fine without atlas willing them around
I absolutely love it. The fact that it just builds off each other is amazing
Was the atlas "creating" sents the result of it breaking?
Apparently they never received new instructions. Even when they became the Aerons beacuse the atlas made them, the atlas was still silent. THe atlas hasnt willed them to do anything in a long long time
New instructions also means they had some in the first place...why not stick to those? Did they encounter situations they were not prepared for?
Probably because they had a physical form now
Yep, I agree
And then the creatures they had been archiving began to attack them. To shoot them. The atlas was silent
They eventually fought back, the Atlas still silent. They probbaly took this either as the Atlas approving or not caring
No i do not believe. As most of the information I know about comes from sentinel pillars it has some words about the korvax
3rd sentinel pillar (unabridged)
We awoke to a song, chanted on a thousand frequencies. โBehold the drones of the hive, the walkers, the shipsโฆ Eheu! Behold the angels of glass, come from their heaven. Their work is the completion of all things, of life, of worlds. So the Korvax worshipped. So they prayed.
Does it have any nearer info about what sort of creatures they were archiving?
It seems they "would record, sort, delete the life and death of every world there ever was or would be".
Yes, but something doesnt add up here
Maybe not specific creatures, but their lives and and deaths. The lives deaths of flora, fauna, races planets, systems, galaxies and probably universes
Why would the creatures attack them? And none of the creatures we see today on planets are capable of shooting
's why I thought of Korvax, since they are NPCs and closest to the atlas
Oh, by creatures i was refering to this excerpt from the sentinel pillars. Stand by
Sorry for making you pull out your entire archive ๐
Nah alg, this is quite the lovely discussion
4th Sentinel Pillar excerpt
As we swam with void dragons, robotic lifeforms would delight in our presence, but organics would shoot us from the sky.
i accidently said creatures, a more accurate term would be life forms
Hm. Organics does rule out the Korvax anyway
The organics were the ones doing the shooting
And void dragons...living frigates/ships?
Vyโkeen and travellers attacked
I actually do not have any information living ships/frigates sorry. The majority of my knowledge is from the sentinel archive. I do know the ships are related to the void mother and Korvax Prime somehow
Thats alright, I was just thinking it might fit.
Since the game also calls them megafauna
I think void dragons are the bio ships and stuff, created by K Prime
It does fit somewhere, but theyre not my area of specialty
that sounds fair enough
And, at least the living frigates, claim to have swam by your side before your memories formed
Swam? Swum? Grammar...
Swimmed.
:3
Were they swimming beside the travellers side?
Like by "your memories" is it referencing the traveller
They claim so, I know that is not the same, but it at least hints they are very old, and I dont know what else could be meant
Except for living ships, which dont speak sadly
I was thinking, as the travellers were a brain scan of the creator (i think) and (once again, i think) the living frigates/ships were the result of the result of K Primes destruction
I know nothing about Korvax Prime is the problem, other than the name, and now that it apparently lead to void mother existing. :/
Also stop scanning me ๐
Im sorry, i swear i detect some type of anomaly. Curiosity i gues. I'll try to give a crash course in K Prime
Kovax Prime was the homeworld of the Korvax, housing an AI "The First Convergeance". It was a "copy" of the atlas to see how it would do running the simulations as individuals, these individuals being the Korvax themselves, who were all connected to the convergeance. After the Endless War between the Aerons the Vykeen and the begining of the Silence of the Sentinels (different story for another time) the Gek, who then called themselves the First Spawn decided to conquer the galaxy. With the Vykeen badly beaten up by the sentinels and the fact that the Korvax were Scientists and not fighter, they launched an attack on Korvax Prime. In what was called the Great Disconnection, they destroyed Korvax Prime, the first convergeance and billions of Korvax. They then enslaved the remaining korvax and started melting some down for technology. The AI that was housed in Kovax Prime somehow "died" and returned as the void mother. Thats about as far as my knowledge goes
Sorry for it being so long and probably full of inaccuracies
I think I roughly know the rest of the story... it works for understanding the base, all good ๐
It clears up a lot of questions I had
Thats good. My specialty seems to be the history of the Korvax, Atlas and Aerons, thats why I'm trying to figure out whats happening now with this void mother and corrupted sentinel stuff
Sounds like a vengeful AI to me really
But that does indirectly confirm that nanites are something connected to the atlas
But what is nanite...
That, is a question for another day
This has been quite an enlightening discussion and I thank you for taking the time to indulge my ramblings. I hope you find more answers to your questions Anomaly-Worm Shadow as I gotta get moving cya
Very well. I will return another time then, thank you for the discussion ^^
what do we know about these "harmonic scrap" stations? you feed them 71 atlantideum (oddly specific number) and then it says something like "...the fifth... 100001" or whatever
absolutely seems like a sort of code we're meant to break
i've been doing them all whenever i see them and have gotten repeats and haven't had anything trigger yet so i assume the information is all you're there to get
The code is binary and the first number denotes it's order. There are 11 variants from "the first" to "the elventh". There is a phrase when decoded
As for the specific 71 atlaridium, I do not have any current theories
Autophages 12-16 are currently not in the game

Or eleven, my bad
Imo 12 is same as 5. So rest is 4 letter word. Live, love,move,safe,dive,move,rave ??
died?
this could explain why they are acting like this, trying to revive but at the same time the hive mind is broken, so they are confused
Might as well be "dead"
nop
or "rise"
it's a question
Oh! I thought the question marks meant we dont know
||fart||
It can still be dead though
i'm a kid, i know this
My bet is live since geks already destroyed korvax prime.
Kinda unlikely. Everything seems to hint at Void Mother aka. Abyss becoming stronger and more prevalent across the universe
also korvax stations are saying "I see her" in binary when you feed them atlantideum
was just about to mention that. it seems the void mothers influences is either getting stronger or is being noticed
It's about time. Been waiting for that to happen for a while
Ever since we started feeding the corruption years ago and Ariadne was replaced by the impostor
finally something is happening
I would guess so, but "Void mother live" is incorrect grammar
Or kzzt
I suggested rise!
:3
But I doubt that too. It wasnt "Atlas rise", but "atlas rises" either
Void Mother song???
Meh
Are the question marks confirmed?
Cause if not, it could be void mother lives
i did check this, aparently the binary does translate to question marks, but take with a grain of salt cause im usually wrong
but 12 being a space is not confirmed
Hello again, Research-Entity Spherion. puts up scan deflector
it could be void_mothers---??
void mother kids?
Anomaly-Worm Shadow acknowledged as legitimate entity
Yeah and the constraint of that amount of spaces
Wait, 1-11 and 17 exist, but the rest doesnt?
Thats some bs HG
Wheres the pattern
Yes. 17th is literally "???"
that's part of the "Evolving story"
Im in doubt about whether its meant to be a question then. You dont usually put several question marks behind a question.
but if the other spaces were left empty, what is the significance of the question marks?
NMS magic number is 16 though 
Abyss doesn't care about 16
or maybe they just left it open for now. Setting up something for later. Teasing and making us speculate on purpose

Seann
always nice to formulate theories. Creates engagement and anticipation
Totally possible. 's why I think the ??? means something else.
Like the encrypted nexus missions
Im sure they are also happy we are theorycrafting.
Welp. All we can do now is wait for HG to evolve the story. I think it's highly likely that those upcoming space stations hold the next step of this mystery. There's a reason why the camps are built next to broken station cores and Korvax stations seeing "her".
the fact that the space stations are displaying the binary code instead of another building supports this theory
the abandoned stations in abandoned systems could also become important
And we can't forget that last year masses of Gek, Korvax and Vykeen began hearing "Voice of freedom" which made them break and rip open station cores, establishing little hideouts from Aeron surveillance
Hopefully, would be nice for them to have more depth
what entity can have such power to influence all the races that usually follow the simulation so nicely? Even mentioning 16 makes them spasm out
But this voice... it can alter their behavior
๐ง
Void mother perhaps?
only an entity similar to the atlas itself, or was ...
I'm betting on that
As an AI, connecting to the countless electronic devices all the ships, suits and tools have should be a cakewalk
But then again... who the heck built those camps and multitools? Those tools are modified aeron tech.
Entities controller by Abyss/Void mommy?
Outlaws? Its not liked Sents are invincible
perhaps
where do the autophages fit into this? a deceased race that inhabits these planets and resembles Aeron anatomy
Outlaws seem to have the tendency to recycle what they can, so why not the parts of their enemies?
but how are the outlaws different from regular pirates? sometimes they're just pirates, sometimes they seem really sorry for attacking us. Like the one NPC dialog saying "It forces us to fight"
Tbh, I think thats a lie to make you give in.
Like... are there different types of pirates? Ones that are part of the regular atlas sim and other ones that are influenced by Abyss?
If void mother can make them tear their station apart.. why not?
And also, what is more logical for an enemy of the atlas than to rile up her followers to take out the minions of atlas and use their tech against them?
HOLY
Void mother rise(s) suddenly got a whole new meaning
Last year Abyss began turning the Gek, Korvax and Vykeen against Atlas and Aeron surveillance. They began ripping out station cores.
This year the cores can be seen scattered on camps that have modified sentinel tech in them.
Station cores can "see her", meaning something they're building still has some connection to the aeron uplink since it's made from that same tech
all makes sense
Even makes sense to have the tools around, you wont build that with your hands...
The thing they're building can be seen by some cores since it's essentially same tech but modified
And since corrupted sentinels cant really build, maybe thats what the autophages were
Yeah. Sentinel tools for sentinel tech manipulation
Im just not fully sure where the ships come in. Are they collateral?
Cause sure, maybe they were shot down to be plundered, but they seem too intact for that, even still have their brain
That's why outlaw stations have broken walkers and stuff on them! Regular tools can't tamper with Aeron tech like the station cores but if you turn their tech against themselves!
heck
That makes a lot of sense

Indeed
What if the crashed ships were the autophages trying to bring space station cores that failed and crashed. The ones that succeeded set up harmonic camps with the cores until something caused it to go into a harmonic lockdown?
Okay, but where are those cores?
And why would you use interceptors?
The station cores seemingly protecting them from Corrupted influences
only tech available to them because it was Aeron based? the cores are massive, maybe it took multiple and some crashed
The same way the Outlaw cores are open for corruption/influence other than the Aeron/Atlas sphere
Sents have freighters too!
Also, there is something else
thats fair enough, but have we seen the void mother strong enough to influence a whole sentinel freighter?
Autophages "eat themselves" in order to survive. What does that mean in the mechanical sense?
Who crashed the ships? How did the cores get there? Who are the autophages and what is there relation to void mother?
so many questions
If she can influence millions of individuals at once? Sure, and if its just to make them capture the freighter
indeed
I've only recently begun to consume and read the lore, the binary converting is always fun
I love speculating
The camps are there to construct something as well
Do we have yet another faction of Sentinels who are avoiding both Atlas and Abyss perhaps? 
Makes sense.
Autophagy= process of using old and damaged parts.
Something broke the interceptor. Something ripped the station cores apart. Now the sentinel/aeron Autophages are there to reuse their broken things left behind by... something?
Who are they siding with then?
Themselves? No Korvax Prime/Void mother, no Atlas. They don't adhere to either, to make their own way for the first time outside of a more collective hivemind?
But the entity was there waiting and managed to destroy the autophages too. That's why we only see their scattered corpses
Okay but...what is the plan? They dont seem to have social life, no life cycle, nothing. What is their "point"?
That's a profound question, ain't it.
Mmhmm.
I honestly do not know, you might as well ask why we are there and living our life, sharing and caring
They were different to the non humanoid floaty sentinel brethren, so there must have been a use for that. The camps, the cores the multitools, maybe they were just automatons, reusing and building and under the oversight of something
the camps themselves are free of noticeable corruption and have an unique tool not seen before. A lot of resources and scrap packed and collected. It's honestly mad exciting stuff.
But thats the thing, we can fairly easily find a point to our lives. But sentinels? They literally were created to carry out instructions. Now they dont have instructions, nor an instructor.
Which is begging for a 3rd faction of Sents to explore to what it is to live without undue influence/protocol dictating their mind.
And with that Ill have to leave, I'm looking forward to future discussions


๐
safe travells
I am ready for moreeeeeeeeee lore, I need it.
Yess
I wish the harmonic interfaces also gave a snippet of lore, like the sentinel pillars, I would be all over that
Yeah I as hoping for more until I realized what thy were spelling out
Though the Korvax stations seeing "her" and not the other two was just another giddy icing on the lore
It was pretty cool to see the space station cores tied in with this
And increasingly so.
The Voice of Freedom sounding more and more enticing (and darker)
Just bummed there are snippets of lore I'll never be able to experience on my own, NMS isn't that big on lore YT videos. I am still trying to find all the endings to the "Stranger"
Yeah, was trying to look for lore explained videos on youtube and couldnt find that much unfortunatly. I watched the ones i could, but now i just have to do my own research and extrapolation

My abolute favourite lore piece is looking through the sentinel pillar archives, they offer such a wealth of knowledge on the Aerons
Which is brilliant, because I've done all the base archives, I am rounding out my sentinel logs by doing nexus missions whenever they pop u
Wild ain't it, I mentioned the imposter code we are using to access
The boundary failures is what I am hunting too, it's more on the nose lore but wicked cool
Back then e didn't had a catalogue, so the addition is brilliant
The boundry failures are definitely my 2nd favourite source, as I love the messages coming from Telamons perspective
My current hunt is on for the remembrance terminals to learn about the Atlas
That too. Agh so much to consume and pour over
Ik, isnt it excting? And this is just the existing lore
I shall have to go to sleep now, enjoy your day, good discussions all round ๐
Sweet dreams! And indeed, take care now!
So im not asking for the full spoilers, just a refresher
I've walked the atlas and artemis paths; should I know the name Telamon?
Or is that only said outside the paths
You need to hit boundary failures, they have lore terminals
"Trace of metal" quest also has some snippets of Telamon lore, albeit small. Hit the boundry failures first
Aye, 'tis what led me to ask.
Thankee both
Telamon is our suit AI, yes?
Him when I started talking to him accidentally in the middle of a heated sentinel fight:
"Im having so much fun, Telamon-not-Telamon!"
yeah I bet you do, youre not getting shot at
Lil rascal

the vykeen are kind of deranged. there's at least a few monoliths that just have you kill yourself
can you request a wellness check for an entire species
You can try lol
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hmm, well it would make sense for 12 to be another underscore, yeah? no reason why it would be "Void_Motherrises??", that doesn't really work
Yeah
and if the question marks are confirmed "Void_Mother_Rise??" doesn't make a lot of sense either
what i would conjecture just from this though, is that, the boundary failures and sentinel pillars say that they can still hear the void mother, yeah?
they can still hear the echoes of the dying screams of that super-sentience that was korvax prime?
maybe that's what the corruption/dissonance is
it's not a "came back wrong" situation as much as it is them trying to resurrect the void mother
and the reason it's all fucked up is because the sentinels are still kind of traumatized / driven insane by the whole event and this just doubles that down and makes it worse
the corruption is definitely happening on-purpose, the virus-like injectors and the fact that the sentinels defend them is proof that this is more than just an anomaly caused by the atlas dying
especially when we take in count the previous events like us feeding the corruption, Ariadne disappearing (or possibly dying) and so on
when did we feed the corruption?
Few years ago
Oh dude, in the muntitool merchant questline. Vy'keen rip themselves in half when they are getting old and "too weak"
yeah lol
And stab themselves with daggers to... "Heal"
The Vykeen are like every sports jock known
space jocks
But the best kind of jocks, they are devoted to their cause.
t
They look heckin' ugly though, Iteration fashion ftw.
they are basically Klingons
And geks are ferengi
Ferengi incidentally killing it
Deep Space Nine, you'll be missed. The finest ST show (and would would influence serialization TV series) for decades to come.
KAPLA
yup
the atlas is a supercomputer that runs the game
the supercomputer is failing however
why
its old and decrepit
OHHHHHHHHHHH AND YOU RESET IT
why
everytime you make a new galaxy you "reset" the simulation
because the computer is running a simulator of the universe
ok but technically
theres no people who own the sky
inside the universe
other than me
fair
._.
Is anomaly hiding the void mother ๐ค korvax prime and the computer at anomaly where you store artemis is also named prime ๐ค
Doubt it tbh. Prime is just a good word to stick onto everything
In mns they dont stick the name to everything tho
Well no, but just because it occurs more than once its not necessarily connected to the original occurence
To be fair, terminal prime is a simulation of Korvax prime i thought
Hey guys do everyone start in the Euclid galaxy?
I'm doing the atlas quest and every single Atlas I've been to has been discovered by someone else 7 years ago
Not me, I found one


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