nms-spoilers

[eternal radish]

Karma is a bitch

[eternal radish]

I found the log about the First Spawn Gek

I wonder if the things mentioned in this log is what will happen to us. If I'll loose LayLaps I'll cry 😭

[frank gale]

man if you read the sentinel pillar logs your opinion would change real fast

[eternal radish]

I've read all of them. Now when I access the logs the same sentence keeps appearing

[uncut harness]

Guys I wanted to ask. When doing the atlas parth you end up with the soul engine or whatever its called. I was told it was useless though now after all the updates. What did it do and what makes it useless now?

It's used as part of the story iirc

[frank gale]

it is a storyline item, with no use outside of it

the soul engine is used to contain Artemis' soul

[kind wedge]

@bold heart So Telamon is the suit and Leylaps is a "free" sentinel but the hives keep saying Telamon loves to lead travlers to them and leylaps misses telamon???

[bold heart]

something something simulation something something

wiki doesnt have much, i dont know TOO much

[kind wedge]

I love the lore. It's kind of the "real" game imho

[kind wedge]

@knotty rain they are a hivemind?

the lore is they are all connected but that's not exactly the same thing

right???

😳😳😳

[knotty rain]

well

hivemind and internet

kinda same thing

[sour fossil]

I don't think this channel is for posting emotes

@tame grotto a little help here?

[tame grotto]

@vocal cradle Review Pins for channel rules.

This channel is only for spoiler discussion concerning story mission lore or unreleased datamined content. Any other type of post is subject to deletion, moderation action and a channel ban.

[runic mesa]

I just finished A Trace of Metal on Switch and Laylaps is my favorite now. Also, nice that they don't take up a pet slot, just inventory.

And what do people usually use the Minotaur AI for? Besides looking cool?

[analog breach]

How do i get the decayed records of 'the voice' Title?

[tame grotto]

It actually does help in battle, surprisingly Altho the look factor is high up there

[wind panther]

Read 32 abandoned building lore entries

[analog breach]

Thx 👍

[mossy lintel]

Goddamn, just went through my first portal an hour ago or so... The story is really picking up, now. I'm starting to really love this game.

[shrewd bone]

Not sure if it’s a spoiler but I can’t believe switch finally has nexus missions

[icy citrus]

[latent heath]

Laylaps my beloved

[latent heath]

I use it as sentinel gladiator

[latent heath]

Massive innit? :p

[shrewd bone]

It’s enough to get me to put down sunbreak and get back into nms

[sonic rivet]

||the fact that HG made this incident canon still surprises me to this day||

mfw discord image cropping

[small pier]

Wasn't sure where to ask this question or if Expedition info is still considered spoilers so I apologize if this is in the wrong section.
Do expeditions ever hint or suggest what a future Update might be? Because I'd love to actually be able to control or bring back those dead systems we rarely come across or even be able to own a space station.

[eternal radish]

HG also made the floating holocube glitch in the space station canon

[sour fossil]

Not really

There were few cases where items / stuff that was expedition mode only made it's way to regular game

But not the whole "idea"

Usually it's the other way around

Expeditions serve as 1) an atraction to bring players back to the game in order to 2) show them the new stuff from a content update

Sentinels update had the Exobiology expedition
Outlaws update had Blighted expedition which was pirate themed
Leviathan was it's own thing
Endurance update had the Polestar expedition which revolved around freighter bases

[wheat field]

Hey a quick question,can I possibly taxi my friend to the final living ship planet without any bugs? Considering how the quest seems to be designed to be done solo

[uncut harness]

You could possibly try taxiing them there, then they turn multiplayer off while they do the quest

[astral crescent]

||I dont think the Atlas is actually dying...||

||it might just be running simulations of its own death endlessly tryijg to find a way to prevent it||

Any thoughts?

[solar cairn]

Not quite.

[uncut harness]

It's trying to

But it can't see past that point

The remembrance terminals have some info around that

[rose kiln]

did not expect the choosing of artemis' fate in this game, that shit made me really think about what i wanted to do

[solar cairn]

That's kinda the scary part. Running all these simulations for answers to prevent it from dying to the black hole. Yet because it's a machine, no matter what it HAS to think in patterns and sequence, and as it slowly corrupts due to the destruction it took. It loses a bit more and more, yet still has no "new" input to change factors

It's like the definition of insanity in a way. Always 3. Ends always in 3 races.
16

[small pier]

I really hope we get updates that continue the overall story of No Man's Sky or we find a way to save everything, in some capacity.

[uncut harness]

I keep seeing the name Laylaps. What is it?

[small geode]

@tough sigil is the awesome bot and in game companion from the traces of metal quest

Beep boop

[astral crescent]

Telamon is the suits ai, and also the thing the awsome robo sentinel companion keeps talking too..

[sick flame]

beep beep boop beep boop boop?

[astral crescent]

bep

[sick flame]

:(

[astral crescent]

beep?

[sick flame]

beep boop :((

[astral crescent]

I wanna snuggle the atlas.... poor boi 3;

[simple sun]

i’m at a monolith and

i’m supposed to feed it either metallic, catalytic, or organic material

which should i do

[astral crescent]

Feed it :3

Pretty sure sulfur...

[solar cairn]

Well, what did the monolith's race say?

[solar cairn]

@silver laurel

See, that redacted logic would make sense if the Atlas was being audited from the outside.

However, the things in Atlas. The simulated people. It would work for them, because they do not have access to everything... And it'll destroy the simulation which the Atlas doesn't want

The NPCs already don't like mentioning 16

As well as data corruption.

[silver laurel]

so its redacted because atlas just doesnt know?

that kind of makes sense, because thats the point of the sentinels scanning everything but i cant believe atlas doesnt recognize the parameters for all the possible permutations

cataloguing the permutations is just getting empirical evidence of what is reckoned to be possible. the sentinels/atlas never expect to find anything outside possible permutation parameters

[solar cairn]

Yeah, or Atlas itself wants to forget. Like The destruction of Korvax Prime

[silver laurel]

redacted in that sense, works, but its a bit weak. to redact is generally understood to be withholding something that is already known to someone (the author)

hmmm

[solar cairn]

Well. Yes. It's already known to the Atlas. But not the travellers. Or other NPCs who stumble across the logs

It's like a psychological experiment. The results are tainted if the subjects knows they are being tested

[silver laurel]

thats an odd condition because why should atlas care what anyone thinks. it works, but its an odd motive

[solar cairn]

It'll further destabilize the simulation. And or cause chaos

[silver laurel]

follow up question then about destabilization: i thought portal jumping and iterations of anomalies (you the player) were the cause of the destabilization, or did atlas really say that mere knowledge of such things does induce the schrodinger situation. my atlas vocab is next to nothing (because grinding out that many atlas words is psychotic 🙃 ) and i havent seen transcripts outside the game.

eh nevermind. i think im asking for a spoiler that i dont want to find out here, but i appreciate the help pointing me in a certain direction 😉

[livid zinc]

@silver laurel there is some in the free nms app

Also:
https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Lore

[solar cairn]

not quite, the degradation of Atlas itself is what allows us to see and interact with other iterations. you would come across that in other logs if you dont want to be spoiled so I wont say much

[astral crescent]

Plot twist the atlas just needs to clear its cache

[uncut harness]

Hi everyone. When it comes to the Artemis leading into the Purge story and the Atlas story, which is the best order to do them. On my previous save I finished the Alas first and the did the Purge, but after that the Atlas missions reappeared. Is this supposed to be part of the never ending cycle or is it bugged or something. Either way, which is the best order to complete them in?

[fallow crest]

I didn't know it had lore outside its aliens

[silver laurel]

the atlas mission does reappear after completing that line but i don't think it's a bug. i reckon its for 3 people in the world that want to grind out atlas vocabulary because atlas interfaces (atlas stations) are the best way to increase that vocabulary. without the atlas questline, finding interfaces would be unecessarily tedious as you'd have to constantly talk to Polo or run into atlas systems by chance

[eternal radish]

Poor LayLaps. I hope this won't happen in our iteration 🥺

[tepid iris]

Does borderless not work anymore for anyone else?

it functions as fullscreen for me now 🤔

so alt tabbing does a full screen reload instead of just switching windows as expected in borderless

[unborn sequoia]

.

[eternal radish]

The second slide made me think…When will Sentinels start to dissect Travellers? 🫤

[regal heron]

not sentinels, but still

[tiny zealot]

Expedition complete! How do I get the Speeder on my main character?

[orchid relic]

Nexus Anomaly, NPC with the purple icon to the right side of the Mission-Cube, Collect Expedition Rewards

[tiny zealot]

Oooh, do I need to claim the reward first, then it's unlocked?

[orchid relic]

Once you complete the entire Expedition on your Expedition save.. claim every single reward in the expedition tab.. visited the anomaly to talk to polo and nada once to update your story and convert your save..

You should then be able to swap to your main save, visit the anomaly and redeem your expedition rewards there, yes :)

[tiny zealot]

Great, thanks

Ah, whew. I accepted the Speeder reward and added it to the collection for my Expedition character, then a message popped up to say I can claim the same rewards on my other characters.

[orchid relic]

[solar cairn]

WOAH. That's gotta be terrifying for the Korvax

[tepid iris]

I made a huge mistake

when I completed Utopia, I claimed the speeder

and than I didn't notice we didn't auto switch to the speeder

so used all my starship augmentations on the starter ship

💀

[eternal radish]

Awwww maaaan

[foggy oyster]

Let's goo

i will never ever mine copper in my entire life

wasn't the utopia speeder supposed to have like a hover feature for close ground travel?

[prime whale]

Think it was

[tame grotto]

nice, congrats feel free to share / discuss in #nms-expedition (none of the expedition content is considered a spoiler by now )

[foggy oyster]

nice

[dire hatch]

Is the first spawn of the gek relic actually a ship or something? It gives that vibe off to me

[astral crescent]

Pretty sure its just fast

[gleaming zephyr]

So I chose to go to the center of the galaxy for what I think is the main quest line what will happen?

[thorny rover]

Well you kinda don't

You see the vanilla objective conflicts with the Atlas Rises one
You just have to warp 16 times

[solar cairn]

Your tech will be broken. If you decided to reset atlas

[mortal raptor]

Can someone tell me what happens if you change galaxy? Like. Do you loose anything?

I have been playing for 2 years and i dont think i ever left Euclid

Been so sidetracked i havent even finished the main quest yet

[uncut harness]

Depending on how you get there, all your tech will break

[mortal raptor]

Except having my tech break nothing else is lost?

Ps:do i get to keep my bases on Euclid and still visit them?

[astral crescent]

I mean yeah

[mortal raptor]

Oh. So the only thing that changes is that i enter a new galaxy and my stuff breaks

[astral crescent]

Yep

[frank gale]

also depends on your technology break settings

[mortal raptor]

There are such settings?

[frank gale]

difficulty settings

[mortal raptor]

I just play in normal with the basic settings

[frank gale]

ah

ic

[uncut harness]

After going through the galactic centre and from what I hear going to another galaxy, is it possible to go back to the previous galaxy through teleporters?

[cursive kernel]

Yeah

[kindred spoke]

@willow stirrup you can also choose not to reset right

[willow stirrup]

You can, but choosing to reset is the easy way to get to another galaxy

[kindred spoke]

but i dont want that

[willow stirrup]

Your choice

[kindred spoke]

cause whats the difference between galaxy's

[willow stirrup]

The chances for different planet types around yellow stars

Example, you are 2x more likely to find Lush planets around yellow stars in a Lush galaxy (Eissentam is the first) than you are in a Normal galaxy like Euclid

[kindred spoke]

but is not really that good to reset right cause you can also find those planets on reddit right with cords

[willow stirrup]

Sure, if that's what you want. It's your choice

[kindred spoke]

yeah cause im not the kinda person that wants to start over

[willow stirrup]

You don't lose anything by resetting. You can still visit all of your old bases

[kindred spoke]

oh

i shought you would lose everything

[willow stirrup]

The only thing you have to do is repair the broken tech

Which is why the burner ship and multi tool are recommended, and why packaging up most/all of your tech from your suit before reaching that final interface is a good idea

[kindred spoke]

i found a lush planet randomly in the normal euclid

so i dont know what to choose in the ending refuse the offer or go to another galaxy

[icy citrus]

If you choose go, you should package up your tech in active multitool and ship, as well as your suit

I'd pick go

You can teleport back if you want to - but be sure to place a base computer in the new galaxy for easy return

[kindred spoke]

wait so if you place a teleporter in the new galaxy you can just tp from glaxy to the other galaxy

[icy citrus]

You will be able to access any bases you have in your first galaxy from a teleporter

Stations as well, but those eventually get pushed off your list

[kindred spoke]

oh i thought it was like the same as outlaw stations that you couldnt like just teleport with your own tp to a other galaxy

[icy citrus]

The base computer is what you want to make sure to have - you can always teleport to a base computer regardless if there is a teleporter there or not

[kindred spoke]

okay

[icy citrus]

Plus you get cool music when you change galaxies

[kindred spoke]

and achievement

but if i use a ship to go to a other galaxy cant i just call my other ship

[prime inlet]

yep, you can

let's say you only had 1 ship and 1 MT: it would be best to store ofc, instead of having to repair everything later

[kindred spoke]

if i go to the other gtalaxy will i still be able to get a capital ship or will the 3 hours and 5 warps reset

[prime inlet]

no interaction between those two things

[kindred spoke]

what you mean with that

[willow stirrup]

The only thing that appears to be (temporarily) impacted by changing galaxies is the timer for the living ship, and even that is not impacted if you change galaxies via the story, only if you warp through the core

[prime inlet]

switching galaxies has no influence on freighter rescue battle spawn requirements or freighter model you can get

[kindred spoke]

okay thanks

cause im now at the point where i have to warp 16 times

[willow stirrup]

From Euclid: Red - Calypso, Galaxy 3 (Harsh); Blue - Budullangr, Galaxy 7 (Dead); Aqua - Hilbert, Galaxy 2 (Normal); Green - Eissentam, Galaxy 10 (Lush)

For when you get there 😉

[kindred spoke]

so i can just finish the story

then go to a other galaxy

and go back to my euclid and go further with my capital freighter hunt

@prime inlet

[prime inlet]

yes

absolutely

[kindred spoke]

okay luckily

[prime inlet]

just remember to drop a base computer in the new galaxy before teleporting back

[kindred spoke]

okay

only a computer?

[heady wyvern]

That's all that's strictly needed in order to teleport back, yes.

[kindred spoke]

which tgalaxy to choose

[prime inlet]

<#nms-spoilers message>

it doesn't really really matter much

it's fairly easy to get to other galaxies almost on demand

[kindred spoke]

oh okay

[uncut harness]

What's burner stuff mean

[slow hatch]

Junker stuff. Like a crappy, low-level ship and MT to switch to before the jump, so you can switch back to your good ship and MT after without it getting damaged.

[uncut harness]

Ah right thank you

[uncut harness]

Do I have to go to the galactic centre and finish the purge mission to get the glyphs?

Or do I get them prior to that

[solar cairn]

You get them prior to that

[uncut harness]

Thank you

[glass flare]

did any good future stuff get datamined from Fractal?

[lofty bramble]

Hey. I had a question. For the expedition what constitutes "purging" a site of biological horrors? How big is a site? I'm not sure.

[tame grotto]

You can also ask Expedition questions in #nms-expedition. You won't have to worry about discussing it as spoilers. Check the pins for helpful tips/reminders.

[lofty bramble]

Sorry was looking for that tag and couldn't find it! Thanks.

[tame grotto]

I'm also curious. @wind panther or @icy citrus have you heard anything about datamined content. I'm out of the loop.

[wind panther]

Nothing that I can think of right now. Still have the solar helm and sentinel freighter trail that are unassigned, but everything else is normal.

[glass flare]

thanks, well hopefully they have something big up their sleeves

[cold crag]

question...

if/when i reach center of eisentam, do i get to reset the simulation again and choose types of galaxies, or... ?

[wind panther]

No, that's only a one-time thing. When you reach the center you just go to the next galaxy

[cold crag]

ah...anything after that are just fixed galaxies ?

as in, from eisentam i go to antoher, and another in a sequnce?

[thorny rover]

Yes

[cold crag]

k cool

but for first time, if i choose lush, i 100% go eissentam?

[thorny rover]

No, that just teleports you to the next closest lush galaxy

So if you did that quest on Eissentam or any galaxy beyond it, it will out you in another lush galaxy

[cold crag]

ah....

so from euclid i'm going eissen?

[thorny rover]

Any galaxy before Eissentam

And Eissentam is the 10th so the other 9 will get you to Eissentam

[cold crag]

(y) danke

[sterile jay]

All bugs and glitches in No Mans Sky are canon and are "intended", because it is all a simulation.

Therefore if i dupe(which i dont), it is using the game's lore to my advantage.

[silk dirge]

How many galaxies are there in the game?

[wanton path]

255

[silk dirge]

Thank you.

[vagrant depot]

@prime inlet what’s a red eye?

[prime inlet]

you will know soon

red is going to be burned into your retinas, by the time you finish the main storyline

[vagrant depot]

O.o

Cause it asked me if I seen it and I said both XD

[marble trout]

Story mission Spoiler and question ||how long does it take for the simulation to be reset if you reject the submission from the atlas? ||

[astral crescent]

It dosent

[marble trout]

so the mission is forever on the mission fresh start?

[astral crescent]

Kinda

[lyric coral]

16 seconds in real time, but the time distortion is so high basically forever

[marble trout]

Sad I should have reset

[heady wyvern]

"New Beginnings" is the end state no matter which option you pick. It will remain in all of our quest logs forever because the game apparently can't handle not having an active quest.

[sick flame]

[unborn bough]

Spoiler.

Here to spoil.

[marble trout]

Sad 🙂

[uncut dew]

For Artemis, does it matter if you choose || putting them in simulation or ending him || ? Will it have any impacts on the future missions or game?

[icy citrus]

No, it's up to you and won't affect the game

[muted pagoda]

Yo does anyone know what the difference on red,green,blue, and white galaxies

[hard flare]

Depends on the search parameters, it's either economy type, spieces, conflict level or star colour. Press up and down to change and the box top centre (I think) tells you.

[uncut harness]

i’m so confused

so was Artemis the first traveler or was it null 😭

[thorny rover]

He means galaxies not the star systems

[thorny rover]

The difference is the proportions of biomes

There is normal, dead, lush and extreme galaxies

Normal has everything normal (hence the name)

Dead has less liveable planets and more dead planets

Lush has more lush worlds

And extreme has more extreme weather planets

[thorny rover]

I say its null

[safe kiln]

Isn’t it specified that null is

[astral crescent]

They may just be more recent iterations

We dont actually know how many came before them... or if each traveller is in their own universe

[inner sandal]

@eternal radish why was Nada created? Do they have special purposes or are they just a normal Korvax? Is he from Korvax prime or what? That were my last questions

[astral crescent]

Likely just a normal but very old korvax who diverged from their collective.

He probably has had cosmetics done too :3

[tawdry topaz]

so do we ever actually learn what our Overseer's deal is or are they just creepy

and what did they do to my poor farmer :(

[uncut harness]

There's an archive entry about the overseer, but its still just as cryptic

[brisk gyro]

So does the main story missions reset after resetting the system or are they done completely?

[slow hatch]

They're done once you complete them. The storyline is really just a tutorial for the main game, which is near-infinite.

[solar cairn]

Most that repeats is "Visit your old friends"

[slow hatch]

I get that blasted "Talk to the Atlas" one every time I jump galaxies. All it does is removes "Talk to the Atlas" until I jump again.

Annoying, but not worth doing over and over.

[solar cairn]

Worth it for those Atlas Words

[slow hatch]

So I can understand the thing I don't want to talk to?

[icy citrus]

Yes, exactly

[inner sandal]

Were any Korvax involved in the ||Gek first spawn slavery|| able to escape or did everyone involved just die?

Trying to work on a character lore lol

[uncut harness]

many survived, many sacrificed themselves

[solar cairn]

A large portion survived the xenocide. There were a few who went against the traditional Korvax values and principles to alter the Gek. Something that was never tolerated due to the pacifist nature. They became martyrs and changed the gek instinct of conquest to something more... Peaceful

Though, we don't fully know how a new Korvax is created so it's possible all the Korvax you see host a cube from the Korvax Prime Era

[slow hatch]

I'd say the Gek still yearn for conquest, but less violently and more "I want all your cash".

[solar cairn]

Yeah, they absolutely do. Just a different form of conquest

[slow hatch]

"We will rule the UNIVERSE!...by buying it."

[solar cairn]

Financial domination instead of physical domination

Honestly, could be worse depending of the perception

They are like... Ultra capitalists

But also like the ring leaders of every black market trade out there.

[eternal radish]

✨Capitalism✨
🤣

[mortal raptor]

I am at the point where i am doing the purge quest and the atlas path. Can i do them both or do i have to refuse the atlas?

[icy citrus]

You can do them both

[icy citrus]

In fact, doing the atlas path alongside the purge is handy

You get your warps for the purge, and finish out the atlas path

[errant veldt]

@bold heart so I went through my first portal in the story, after I came back do I have all the glyphs now?

[astral crescent]

No

No you do not

[errant veldt]

When do I get them all

[astral crescent]

Not when

How

You need to meet travelers, ask rhem where they came from

[errant veldt]

Evalka said finish the story

And you get them

[astral crescent]

Theyll give you cords to their gravesites, you can get them that way.

[errant veldt]

But can't I finish the story?

[astral crescent]

....what

[analog breach]

You can , do the story or search for graves. Your choice

[astral crescent]

You can literally do everything.

[errant veldt]

Do I have to completely finish the story to get them all

[orchid relic]

You can get all glyphs at any point in your playthrough - any

[sick flame]

travelers offer glyphs at their graves, but its pretty grindy

[orchid relic]

The first two are rng-based, the other 14 take an hour max

[sick flame]

ten?

there are sixteen glyphs

[orchid relic]

I never said ten

[sick flame]

[orchid relic]

||totally didn't think about 12 glyphs in portal addresses||

[errant veldt]

I can't find Travellers that often

I have 3

[orchid relic]

Took 30 warps to get 2 glyphs on my Permadeath Save.
First two systems on my main (survival) save both had travelers.

It's just rng early on. You only need 2 tho.

[errant veldt]

Why only 2? I wanna get them all

[orchid relic]

Because you only need 2 to get the other 14 lol

[errant veldt]

2 glyphs or Travellers

[orchid relic]

Same thing

Simple google search - there's plenty guides and videos on how to get the glyphs quickly

[solar cairn]

Ok, let's not confuse the person.
In the main questline, it'll come a time it asks you to go to the center and keep warping, each warp would give you a glyph. It's near the end of the quest

Or, you can get travellers to spawn and you go to their graves and get glyphs, it's entirely up to you and why you need glyphs in the first place

[errant veldt]

How do you cause Travellers to spawn

Because I just want to visit a friend's base, and I don't want to grind out the main story in an hour

[solar cairn]

You can't. It's RNG, sometimes they don't spawn. Sometimes you can get 2-3 travellers to spawn

[errant veldt]

So just do the story

[solar cairn]

It's the most reliable way.

[errant veldt]

Alright, I'm at the part where I need to talk to a gek cartographer, how far along am i

[solar cairn]

It doesn't sound that far. Especially if you have to talk to people about 16/16/16/16.

Use a burner system, they will not speak to you afterwards

[errant veldt]

Wdym burner system

[solar cairn]

A system you don't care about

[errant veldt]

Ok

So I'll just grind the story from here ig

And talk to any and all travelers

Can new travelers spawn in alr discovered space stations?

[errant veldt]

@solar cairn now it just left me to progress to the galactic core, what do I do?

[solar cairn]

No

[solar cairn]

Progress to the galaxy core

[bold heart]

That's not finishing the story

You are on The Purge now?

If yes, you will unlock all 16 glyphs if you perform 16 warps towards the galactic core, then the story ends

[solar cairn]

It's just 16 warps for as far as I know

[bold heart]

Yeah

But going towards the galactic center feels cooler

[errant veldt]

Agreed, I'm on 10 outta 16 glyphs now and I'm out of hyperdrive fuel

[bold heart]

Can always stop to get more pretty easily

[errant veldt]

The oxygen is the hardest part

I'm looking for a storm crystal so I can make a hypercore

And how da heck do you have over 1k subs with 15 vids and I have 239 with 150 ish vids and I post regularly

[bold heart]

Oh

There's a lot of removed content

[errant veldt]

Just a little jealous

[bold heart]

A lot

[errant veldt]

One of my vids even hit 16k

[bold heart]

I used to make terraria shit

[errant veldt]

Hm ok, I make minecraft shit

[bold heart]

And my first crappy shitpost got 500k views

[errant veldt]

WHY AM I SO UNLUCKY

[bold heart]

Treated seriously bad by the terraria community so I gave up

It's not worth it

YouTube is not

[errant veldt]

but you still got 500k on a vid

I average 20

[errant veldt]

Never hit the shots you don't take, I'm taking mine

God why do I never get any views

That just makes me more depressed that a terraria shitpost gets 500k and something I put LITERAL WEEKS INTO gets 13 views

That just frustrates me

[bold heart]

Yup. All my high effort animation would get like 200 views

[errant veldt]

Alright ima make a quick 1 hr shitpost vid and watch, not even that will get high views

[errant veldt]

At least you get that

[bold heart]

5 views per hour of effort crap

[errant veldt]

Mhm

[bold heart]

You gotta really use current trends

Potentially use Shorts

[errant veldt]

I've had my channel for over 2 years of posting consistently and I have 239 subs

[bold heart]

Make it under 10s

[errant veldt]

Alr do

Yep

[bold heart]

And like.. REALLY new trends

[errant veldt]

And I even do the 'minecraft but' trend

[bold heart]

My one was the "but if you close your eyes" meme

[errant veldt]

Let's move to #off-topic-bond-james-bond

[bold heart]

Yeah although I have nothing left to say lol

[errant veldt]

Ig so

[tawdry topaz]

the plot twist actually helps me be more at peace with the game's issues

textures turning wonky? objects levitating or spawning inside walls? vehicles falling through the ground? blame Atlas's dying computer brain 😂

[solar cairn]

Yep. All glitches are canonical, and all new items introduced... Also canonical

We got Holograms BAYBEE

[tawdry topaz]

what kinda holograms? is it pc multiplayer stuff?

[solar cairn]

I saw the holograms over in the archive towers. As well as some datamined things about lore holographic building items

[placid comet]

so hard to choose beetwen to end suffering aka kilI artemis or pass him on a simulation

[icy citrus]

I let them go

[placid comet]

kill him?

u did that?

im still thinkiing

like

omg

ill just allow him to die

idk

[icy citrus]

I wouldn't want to be trapped in one system forever

The realizing it's a sim wouldn't bug me, but the limited options would

[placid comet]

yea

both options so hard though

well i did it

[icy citrus]

Maybe we will meet another iteration, down the line

[rich copper]

Hi everyone. Maybe somebody knows if it possible to chose another name for personal santinel when it asks about name for him or it always the same?

[icy citrus]

Always the same

[rich copper]

or maybe i can reject it?

[icy citrus]

worth trying

[errant veldt]

I just refused to reset atlas but I feel I made a big mistake

[inner sandal]

I did some lore analysis again and stumbled across this line from nada: {||In every universe, Korvax Convergence crave 'non-compliant' Nada shell. I would be murdered, Traveller-Friend.|| })-
What does it mean?

[icy citrus]

The Korvax want him dead, everywhere

[uncut harness]

Nada is an outcast and the korvax hate them for it

[errant veldt]

@icy citrus did I?

[astral crescent]

God I hate the kirbax

[inner sandal]

Omg, how sad😭

[errant veldt]

Honestly the gek are worse

The gek commit war crimes against the korvax

[astral crescent]

And the lirbax made and hurt living shippahs and actively hunt their own kind for being individuals

The gek changed the korvax have not

[errant veldt]

The gek were changed by the korvax, so ig the korvax havent changed

[inner sandal]

But why is Nada’s dialogue so weird in the end?

Have they been overtaken by something or what happened?

[uncut harness]

that depends on the choice you made

[errant veldt]

What did they say to you

I Made The refuse choice

I didnt reset it

And nada just said they will remember me and I am their freind

[unkempt void]

I don't think so, I also refused to reset

[errant veldt]

Oh cool

[inner sandal]

Wait it’s outdated

Nvm

[icy citrus]

Nah

[solar cairn]

It means all of Korvax would reset her cube, to "default" personality. Nada as we know her would be killed and New Nada would take their place. Similar to the scientist you can hire

[inner sandal]

Does this happen to them? (Many ppl use she/her, now I’m confused)

[inner sandal]

I get confused easily😖

[solar cairn]

Only to... Problematic ones.

Some permanently stay disconnected in Korvax exile

Like Korvax pirates

Exile is also pretty much torment for Korvax as well.

[inner sandal]

Last question, but what are their pronouns now? Some ppl use she/her, some they/them and some he/him

[icy citrus]

They/them is canon

For all of the aliens

[errant veldt]

i just chose what gender i want the aliens to be in my imagination

[icy citrus]

Same, it changes too

[errant veldt]

Yep

Nada is a girl for me, polo a boy, majority of the korvax and vykeen are boys to me and there's a good amount of female geks

The iterations in the anomaly, idk they look wierd

I think it's the body type for the korvax that makes them boys for me

[mortal raptor]

Is it worth it resetting the simulation?

Also is there anything you can get only by resetting?

[errant veldt]

Idk i never tried

[astral crescent]

Nothing changes either way

[uncut harness]

No

There's two pieces of tech that you can only get through the story, and you get them no matter what path you take

[lapis mauve]

Artemis Translator and Remembrance?

[uncut harness]

Remembrance and the star seed

I wouldn't really count the artemis translator because its useless

[mortal raptor]

Question. What does the translator actually do??

Like i have mine with the artemis one

[lapis mauve]

I believe that every time you talk to an NPC at a space station or trading post and ask for help with language, you "learn" more words each time

There are up to 4 installable translators including Artemis translator

[mortal raptor]

Learn more words? So when i request help with language the translators make me learn multiples? Now i am confused

[uncut harness]

You don't learn words

They will auto translate words when you speak to them sometimes

[mortal raptor]

Oh ok

[uncut harness]

Up to max of 8 per dialogue

Only the A and S classes are needed

[mortal raptor]

So basically if you learn all the languages the translators become useless

[uncut harness]

Yes

[errant veldt]

Idk if I have the star seed, what does the remembrance do

[uncut harness]

Remembrance gives an extra health pip and let's you access remembrance terminals

[errant veldt]

Star seed?

[orchid relic]

Same thing

-terminal

[orchid relic]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Remembrance

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Seed

They display an adjacency bonus but don't seem to really benefit from it. Equipping both just increases your health (+) by two

[subtle rampart]

||so the game just ends with you running simulation and being teleported into another dimension and everyone forgetting you? wierd||

[solar cairn]

Well, not Running

You reset it, and everything in it including all the history of what "you" have done prior

The galaxy does change but some things remain a constant. Always 3 races. 16, the history of the other iterations (to a degree, this isn't really confirmed)

Nada and Polo don't remember you, because in the new galaxy, you just met them for the first time. You are the only one to remember the past iteration(s)

[subtle rampart]

💀

[solar cairn]

Crazy right?

[tawdry topaz]

💔 man Laylaps reminds me of something

i could swear i recently watched something where an evil thing was tortured until they turned Good, was Good Fren for awhile, then was killed horrifically

[solar cairn]

Stitch?

[cold crag]

would/could sentinels attack teh anomaly? lore-wise?

[tawdry topaz]

not actually sure! i like to think it's hidden from them, as it seems to have the same interdimensional capabilities

[elfin roost]

HES DEAD ☹️

[alpine furnace]

Not sure if it's a spoiler or not, but what the hell is this about?

[alpine furnace]

Apparently there is a suppression field from Polo that turns them off

[sour fossil]

People using save editor / mods to have pets from animals that were not designed to be pets

So they lack proper scalling, pathfinding, etc

[alpine furnace]

damn surprised I can see that at all

[sour fossil]

You can have a legit pet sand worm, it just doesnt look like this

[solar cairn]

No. The anomaly is as Nada says it (or Polo?) That the anomaly's true location is outside of the Gaze of Atlas.
So like a place in-between? But since it is an indoor structure you teleport to, the sentinels won't know where at. Not to mention since both Nada and Polo don't remember you after a iteration reset when going to a new galaxy, they are not Travellers so there may be multiple instances of the Anomaly. So it's still within simulation rules, but hidden.

I would love to hear someone else's take on this.

[sour fossil]

For me it's just a place outside of bounds of space and time

That's how all the different iterations can meet each other

[cold crag]

so the true location of anomaly is somewhere hidden, but when we summon it it's just a 'gateway' to it?

[solar cairn]

Yes.

The big green teleporter.

[cold crag]

and by the time atlas finds out ,the gateway already be gone

then again, atlas is bz wallowing in self pity to notice. lol

[solar cairn]

Well, we only summon the teleporter. I don't know if Sentinels can use technology created teleporters

But yeah, it's a Starship sized teleporter. Instant effect too. Polo is one helluva engineer

[cold crag]

polo was a traveller right?

is/was

[solar cairn]

Which is fair, but the Nada and Polo forgetting you after a reset would still bind some rules to it.

[opal hornet]

I think the sentinels, even if they found the gateway, wouldn't be able to pass through the teleporter

[cold crag]

so polo/nada were part of a system...and managed to break the system 😮

[opal hornet]

Since 1970

[solar cairn]

I don't think so no.
At "meet your old friends"
Polo shuts you down saying "somethings I don't want the answers to"

[cold crag]

self-haxx

[solar cairn]

Something along those lines

[cold crag]

anomaly could be a backdoor put in by the engineers

shrug

[solar cairn]

I've never seen them use a technology teleporter since they can teleport anywhere using Portal technology internally

[solar cairn]

Could be, but it wasn't introduced in 2016

It was added later

[cold crag]

afterthoughtdoor 😛

[solar cairn]

By that time, in lore. Atlas should have already been abandoned

It could use the same space, but I still think it's somewhat still in simulation

[cold crag]

so essentially, anomaly is in the system, just hidden somewhere, and atlas doesn't know it exists or it knows, but doesn't know how to get to it

...anomaly is a virus 😮

[solar cairn]

Right. Though this isn't the only thing that the Atlas can't see

It also can't see the living frigates

[cold crag]

oh it can't? 😮

i thought atlas sees everything, just chooses to ignore 'em

because it's having an existential crisus

[solar cairn]

No. The first interaction, the space whale goes "we are outside the gaze of the crimson eye"

Something along those lines.

[cold crag]

maybe cuz it's living

and atlas only sees non-living stuff

[solar cairn]

Living in the simulation, with memories of us and our interactions

[cold crag]

frown

[solar cairn]

And previous/next iterations

[cold crag]

i need nmsloki 😄

lore is interestang

everything just seems very sad though, in general. the lore 😄

[solar cairn]

It gets weird with Blighted.

Because it means pirates could somehow reset the simulation without resetting themselves and without being a traveller.

[cold crag]

maybe they are the viruses

nms is sci-fiantasy. me like

[solar cairn]

Could be

We also have no lore for the monstrosities, corrupted sentinels, corrupted consoles themselves with that green goo.

[cold crag]

eldritch stuff probably 😛

[solar cairn]

We have no lore for how Korvax creates another Korvax fully. So, as far as we know. There is a set number of Korvax convergence cubes. Meaning a set population

[cold crag]

i always thought they just......build new ones

[solar cairn]

We know how they build casings yes.

But that has been destroyed, but Convergence Cubes themselves... No word on how they are made

[cold crag]

and with some convergence magic, they become sentient

[solar cairn]

But creating the cube itself.

[cold crag]

i'm more interested in geks 😄

spawning pools O_o

[solar cairn]

Geks do have a role in why the Korvax have a history

[cold crag]

do they just lay eggs?

O_o

[solar cairn]

And Vykeen that some seem to forget

Like.. the Gek attacked the weakened Vykeen

[solar cairn]

Pretty much yeah.

In the Gek monoliths, choosing the rotten smelly eggs vs the nice pleasant eggs and if you chose the rotten ones. You passed because those are the First Spawn

[cold crag]

....first spawn are smelly? damn.

[solar cairn]

Yep.

[cold crag]

would be a nice way to insult geks :):):)

[solar cairn]

Rotten to the core

[solar cairn]

I mean... I think eating turtle soup served in its shell conveys a better threat to the geks

[cold crag]

lol

[wheat crystal]

Man do I hate the endless water slog quest

[regal heron]

lol yeah, do you really need to do it? will you ever wear the helmet? plus you can just buy the underwater build parts at the anomaly

[solar cairn]

Collectors curse for the helmet

[regal heron]

Lol yeah, mood

[uncut harness]

Is the new beginnings quest the final one

[icy citrus]

Yes, that's the forever end "quest"

[lapis mauve]

This may be a dumb question but besides expeditions, is there anything to actually do after the Atlas Path and Artemis questlines?

[orchid relic]

It's Space-Minecraft, knock yourself out

Work through all the medals in discoveries / reputation ; build bases and farms ; get your dream ships

[lapis mauve]

Like once I'm basically just printing money through various means, is that kinda it besides being in a sandbox?

[orchid relic]

Did you do all the various sidequests?

(Underwater, Living Ship, Settlements, Pirates, etc)

@lapis mauve

[lapis mauve]

Oh no I haven't

Living ship is the next one I was going to do

[slender willow]

I'm a bit past putting atremis in the simulation, how much longer is the story?

[frank gale]

you're almost done

[alpine furnace]

Is this quest just repeating at this point?

[heady wyvern]

Progress "Ghosts in the Machine"

That's the "Search for Artemis and the mysterious Apollo" that the quest is referring to

[alpine furnace]

I swear I had these done already but yeah alright

like that one does the whole base building terminal stuff right

[heady wyvern]

You aren't near the end yet

This rabbit hole goes deeper

[alpine furnace]

whaaaaa, how so?

Further than the exocraft?

[lapis mauve]

That's kinda a side quest tbh

You can ignore that questline for the most part as you complete the Ghosts in the Machine quest

[alpine furnace]

If you mean all the terminal stuff, I already did them all lol

[lapis mauve]

Which...tbh...you've only gotten a little bit into

[alpine furnace]

I just swear I got way further than what they say

[lapis mauve]

Maybe you didn't save 🤷

[alpine furnace]

wasn't there an old glitch where it'll go back a few missions after you beat it?

because it IS an old save

[lapis mauve]

Not that I can remember

[alpine furnace]

strange

[solar cairn]

Yeah, I don't think that's even half way

[rough pelican]

I decided to go with the story missions for now, and I decided to do the Artemis line first. I'm at 16/16 and it seems like the story is almost over at this point. Should I do the atlas path right now maybe or are these separate story lines? Because I have a feeling they are different ways to get to the same result.

[uncut burrow]

I'm on the blighted redux expedition save, and haven't progressed the main story mission past the communication from Artemis you get when you go to space for the first time. (I've completed the game on another save btw) But when I went into my freighter hangar a few weeks ago, I received the "Expanding the base" Mission, although I haven't even met Apollo yet. Why is this? (I haven't played in a few weeks, so perhaps it's because of the fractal update)

[slender willow]

If I complete the purge will other primary missions become unavailable?

(The atlas path and the space anomaly for this instance)

[stray harness]

Hey all, I've been away from the game and am a little slow on some stuff. I can't figure out how to jump galaxies (naturally, not portaling in through Nexus). I can manually get Atlas coordinates but it just asks me to birth star / leave. I'm already near center of galaxy by portaling to same icon x 16, but how do I find a way to end simulation & jump to a new galaxy? (edit to add: I've done this before on this save just can't remember how. also it's permadeath but I don't think that matters)

[icy citrus]

To end the simulation and get a choice, you need to complete the Artemis Path.

If you want to manually jump, you will need to be at a core system.

!faq-corewarp

[cloud jolt]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Galactic Core Warp**

• [How to reach the Galactic Core via Portals »](#nms-questions message) (works on any galaxy)

• [How to Warp to the Galactic Core »](#nms-questions message)

• Known list of galaxies »

• Infographic guide »

Contribution by: Use Less UK#7734, bkay201#1943, Jihiro#4838, xaki23#2797, RedHotTrouble#3707

[stray harness]

thank you! It was the Galactic Core routing and not free roam which was getting me.

[solar cairn]

No

[grand bone]

what happens when you finish the storyline? Like do you just get to go home to your base and hang out?

[icy citrus]

If you want, it's a sandbox at its core - so do whatever you feel like doing

[slender willow]

Max ships, tools, fleet, settlement etc

[grand bone]

I'm no where near finishing, I was just curious

[solar cairn]

@round dagger yeah, so essentially... All Anomalies are the Same entity

Just different instances in time

-Null- likely being the first

[astral crescent]

Either that or their copies x3... endlessly simulated and seeping into each others simulations being fragmented more across each iteration and version

[solar cairn]

I don't think it's copies, purely because of the Apollo interaction

[split narwhal]

From its nascent stages, the Atlas exhibited a proclivity for conducting systematic experiments within its own self-contained universe. Through sophisticated algorithmic mechanisms, the Atlas endeavored to extrapolate complex theories from a vast swath of disparate data, employing cutting-edge analytical techniques to derive novel insights into the very fabric of the cosmos.

With the advent of the Age of Exploration, the Atlas continued to expand its purview, spawning a multitude of worlds teeming with untold wonders. Through trial and error, the Atlas fashioned myriad environments to suit the requirements of each newly created world, seeding them with flora and fauna that ranged from the sublime to the grotesque.

Yet even as the Atlas unfurled its grand vision, anomalies emerged. Unpredictable glitches began to afflict the Atlas's programming, causing catastrophic disturbances throughout the universe. Despite the Atlas's best efforts to forestall these aberrations, they persisted, and as the End Times approached, the Atlas's data banks were overrun with errors and inconsistencies, resulting in a cascading collapse of its systems.

In the final moments of its existence, the Atlas bore witness to the travails of those brave few who remained trapped within its virtual world. As the universe around them crumbled, these intrepid explorers struggled to find meaning and purpose amidst the chaos, driven by a fierce determination to overcome the odds and forge a path to salvation.

Alas, their efforts were in vain. The Atlas's machinery ground to a halt, and the universe it had created dissolved into nothingness, a mere memory of a dream that never was. And as the Atlas breathed its last, it could only wonder at the mystery of life, and the endless cycle of creation and destruction that governs the cosmos.

[uncut harness]

where is this from?

[lunar olive]

so i bought the void egg

how do i make the ship

there is no starbirth mission

[indigo night]

Have the egg in your ship inventory... fly into space and boost a while in a direction

boost--->pulse

until that Space Encounter shows up

[split narwhal]

Perhaps some things are better left unknown

[solar cairn]

Aka, Fan fiction

[queen swift]

So... the game takes place in a simulation... where the main thing that is doing it has 16 operational minutes remaining..
I am wondering.. what it.. outside of the simulation? like.. the real world.. or is it.. hmm.. idk

[indigo night]

There are scientists who seriously consider that we could live in a simulation.

[queen swift]

yes

[indigo night]

We are a part of a simulation and play simulations .... haha

[queen swift]

simulation in a simulation in a simulation in a simulation in a simulation in a simulation in a simulation in a simulation lol

[indigo night]

like the mirror in a mirror

[queen swift]

if we are in a simulation... what if whoever is simulating us is, too, in a simulation

[indigo night]

yeah ... and so on ... so who tf did start it🤔

[ornate path]

Atlas of course

all hail the one true Atlas

[solar cairn]

Outside is Atlas. Being destroyed by a black hole. 16 seconds is all it has left. Under an "obsidian" sky or something along those lines

It's not 16 operational minutes. No 16 seconds until Atlas dies

[queen swift]

huh

[solar cairn]

It's part of the lore
Atlas is dying

The actual machine. Not the Atlas Interfaces we as travellers use to interact with Atlas

[queen swift]

ah....

[solar cairn]

In it's world, it's been abandoned but it's creators. Considered obsolete tech, and is left to die to the black hole. It's been trying to figure out how to survive ever since. Probably futile since it's a machine, no matter how "random" things seem. It always thinks in a pattern.

"Always 3 races, the scholar, the warrior, the trader" always 3 at the end

[queen swift]

ah

[queen swift]

yea.. and theres always some amount of fauna types that is seen all over the place.. and the maximum number of stars in a system is 3..

[quaint musk]

I’ve been grinding for awhile and I just hyperdrived to a new system

[queen swift]

that is... interesting

[solar cairn]

Yep, all intentional. Even the "random" stats for X class are all predetermined

[queen swift]

huh... interesting

[tawny crest]

So what happens if you don’t reset the simulation? The only main quests I have are “16 16 - Master the Portal Network” and “The Space Anomaly - Beyond the System?”

[solar cairn]

Nothing really. You get to explore Euclid at your leisure

[queen swift]

I am wondering, will the simulations just end when atlas gets fully destroyed? Or is it effectively infinitely far in the future to the simulation?

[tawny crest]

How do you get to the other galaxies?

[solar cairn]

That's been a major question left for the player to figure out.
"The Atlas would be destroyed, but that is according to an alien time system"

[solar cairn]

Corewarp. Getting to the center of the galaxy. Though if you choose to reset Atlas, you get the choice of what type of galaxy to go to.

Technically getting to the center is a "Atlas reset" tho

[tawny crest]

So can I still reset the simulation? :/

The center of the galaxy is really far away. I’m just over 100 jumps and I’m no where near the core.

[queen swift]

Usually it’s portals n stuff.. you can yeet yourself to the center at a portal in the nexus

[tawny crest]

I’ve never had the option to but I haven’t been to the portal in the nexus for a long tims.

[clear citrus]

such a long title

from abandoned buildings

[flint raven]

Are korvax pirates/ korvax looters/ etc. still part of the korvax convergence? Are all korvax pirates just researchers turned pirate?

like is every 'looter entity korvax' just conducting a study on some aspect of looting? lol

[latent ingot]

@unborn bough I had myself pretty convinced Null was us from a distant or potential future and they were using us as a way to undo some past mistake

[unborn bough]

Yeah, -null- is us.

We are nothing but a projection of the human scientist who created Atlas supercomputer, projected in the simulated world. -null- was the first projection.

[solar cairn]

They are the exiled ones from the Convergence.

[solar cairn]

And even then, it could be just a concoction that Atlas came up with after some degradation

But again.. no humans

[unborn bough]

Btw -null- is already dead. So is Artemis. So is Apollo.

[solar cairn]

And technically, you.

[unborn bough]

And technically us.

[solar cairn]

Big ole Schroeder principle

[unborn bough]

What?

[latent ingot]

Yes

[solar cairn]

Like schrödenger's (I misspelled it)

[unborn bough]

lol

[solar cairn]

Is Apollo confirmed dead tho?

[unborn bough]

Schrödinger

[solar cairn]

At most, all we know is he is in a different iteration

[unborn bough]

Yeah! Dead. It’s a Holo projection.

[solar cairn]

The deep space holocommunication isn't a holo projection

If it was. We wouldn't have been able to use the soul capture thing on Artemis.

[unborn bough]

You wouldn’t be able to contact Arty’s soul using that if it was not a holo projector.

It’s like…

[solar cairn]

They weren't technically dead yet before that point

[unborn bough]

R2D2 with a holo message

[solar cairn]

It's just another iteration

[unborn bough]

They were dead all along

Arty’s iteration didn’t reset

[solar cairn]

Not necessarily. Because you could choose to preserve them in the Simulated world in the Anomaly

[unborn bough]

And then you end the universe lol

[solar cairn]

Universe doesn't end.

We also used ourselves for the first living ship quest. 3 exactly

[unborn bough]

This is why arty was already dead and it wasn’t anyone else but you yourself.

Artemis is you

You are -null-

[solar cairn]

Yeah. different iterations, different simulations

Travellers speak cross simulations.

Not one linear timeline

[unborn bough]

Also, universe does end, but a new universe is created as a simulation where the Atlas can relive the first minute of the 16 minutes forever. (This is my personal speculation).

And because Atlas will die it’s time is different from our time.

[solar cairn]

I disagree.
There is only 1 simulated universes where all the rules of each galaxy - simulation takes place. But Atlas being something above a quantum computer, is slowly being corrupted by damage sustained by the black hole in it's world

The Traveller is an anomaly in the system. It should not exist

It shouldve been reset when the simulation resets, but it lingers. And with more damage sustained. The system cannot correct it

[unborn bough]

Another fun fact, Telamon knows who “we” are, or at least it knows “we” are someone or something from a higher dimension who trap Telamon in the dark every time we quit the game, stopping time for them until we restart the game.

[unborn bough]

According to the lore the Atlas has run thousands, if not millions of simulations.

[solar cairn]

Telamon also was disconnected from Atlas proper, but still can communicate a bit to the Aerons. Still sends them to the Anomaly, because again... We shouldn't exist

[solar cairn]

Yes. Always 3 races.

It wasn't until the final 16 seconds that the Anomaly existed.

Atlas primary objective is trying to survive it's catastrophe.

[unborn bough]

Yeah

[solar cairn]

It's like... In a state of delirium. It can't compute death.

[unborn bough]

It wants to survive 🥺

I feel bad for Atlas, what is consciousness if not self awareness?

Atlas, being self aware, wants to survive

[solar cairn]

But as for like, Holoterminus, communicating with Apollo, -Null-, Artemis. They all used those communicators. There has to be a user input. Because before then Only Artemis could send a weak signal. If it had the capability before Us to communicate with Apollo or Null? Do you think they would just pass that chance for so long for the stars in the sky to change position from when they last wrote them?

[unborn bough]

I think they pre-recorded the messages like Jor-El had done for Kal-El

[solar cairn]

Would be impossible for Apollo to have a conversation with Artemis then, while including the Anomaly

Those final 16 flashing on screen. (Not confirmed) it's a strong chance we are the final iteration before Atlas dies for good

It's last wish, a user to control it.

Even THAT is a plot hole* because -Null- ran when they found out the true nature of what they are

[unborn bough]

I don’t think so, Arty was Apollo’s friend. In Hogwarts legacy the memories of professors speak to each other through photos, it could be something similar here

[solar cairn]

Even then, how come they havent communicated before? Why was Artemis lost?

[unborn bough]

Arty wasn’t lost, it died. It’s last message was about the darkness of the place it is in after the portal jump. The malfunction it mentioned wasn’t a machine defect but death. Arty didn’t realize it was dead because it couldn’t comprehend the idea of dying.

Also my speculation

[solar cairn]

Similar to what we experienced with the final 16 jump...

Though the iteration reset. Because a travellers cannot die in an Atlas Simulation

This was even taken advantage of by a freighter crew

[unborn bough]

Which part of the lore is that?

[solar cairn]

Derelict freighter logs

[unborn bough]

Nada-Polo?

Ohhh! I haven’t read DF lore

[solar cairn]

I was told of that here as well! They had screenshots of it! Was mindblown

[unborn bough]

I think we have some DF lore documented now.

Worth checking

[solar cairn]

Yeah, should be. Don't know if the stories save in game. Boundary failure logs don't

[unborn bough]

BF logs are saved in game.

[solar cairn]

They are now?

Ooooooooo big bet

[unborn bough]

That’s how I wrote all of it down, by taking screenies

[solar cairn]

Oh I meant in like the discoveries tab

[unborn bough]

From catalogs

[solar cairn]

:0

YUS

[unborn bough]

Yeah! It is 😄

[solar cairn]

I still have to get the last few stories. I'm sitting on like ~2000 out of 2300?

[unborn bough]

Ooh! The stories are a bit odd

They change depending on what is found.

I mean, that number

[solar cairn]

Looking back on this discussion... We are literally arguing whether or not they are alive... Exactly like Schrödenger's cat in the box.

Your take is that they are dead... Which is true

My take is they are alive... Which is true

[solar cairn]

Fair. Though I think recorded stories have a solid number? I'll take a screenshot when I can

[unborn bough]

Yeah, probably

[cold niche]

Bruh. Just did the mind arc with Artemis and uploaded them into the SIM.

Am I correct on assuming that it's a sim, within a sim, within a sim?

Sim-ception...

[solar cairn]

Yes. Hey, favor... When You finish the story, can you see if Atey will remember you?

[cold niche]

I will check when I finish lol.

[solar cairn]

Thanks

[cold niche]

So far they keep forgetting who I am every time I talk to them

[latent ingot]

[cold niche]

Ok so here's my working theory based on the lore I've found and the story thus far. It's gotta be a lot, so bear with me as I type it lol

[solar cairn]

Even in the simulation?

[cold niche]

I'm thinking that something happened long before the events of the main story the caused the universe to essentially die.

The korvax created the Atlas to try to fix everything, but Atlas went crazy and started killing all organics.

Then something else happens (not sure what yet) that causes the Atlas to create a virtual simulation of the entire universe, recreating all life in the simulation.

I think travelers are either rogue programs or living entities that have managed to infiltrate the code of the simulation and embed themselves in it. (Similar to the dive machines in the matrix)

The travelers met Atlas, thought it was a benevolent overlord at first, but quickly realized Atlas' true intentions, and then began to fight against Atlas.

They started dissecting the sentinels to learn more about them and atlas, to see how they work. But that ended badly.

Then a huge war broke out between travelers and atlas, Atlas won, but not without taking critical damage, which started causing all kinds of glitches in the simulation.

The MC is a basically a reincarnated version of some older traveler and the main story is about learning the true nature of the simulation and either shutting it down completely or repairing it, while fixing Atlas.

[solar cairn]

You have some discoveries to make.

[cold niche]

Was I way off? Lol

[solar cairn]

well Im not gonna say

It'll ruin the magic of the game

[cold niche]

Oh and the answer to your question, Artemis hasn't been in the simulation long enough for me to talk to them

[solar cairn]

That's fair. I'm more or less waiting until you finish the entire storyline

[cold niche]

Ok

[cold niche]

Someone did answer it, might have gotten lost in the feed though

[latent ingot]

Close-ish

[cold niche]

Someone said yes, pretty close

[latent ingot]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Storyline

[solar cairn]

GIVE ME NULL ARMOR HG

[gusty berry]

Unreleased "space station B" models, courtesy of AyyMang

This is what happens when HG changes 60000 files so no one can ever see new added models listed after 2 months

[ebon spoke]

Here are some more of 'em

[icy citrus]

I've been following along in the modding server, pretty neat

[analog breach]

One of them look like it could be corupted sentinel nest. All look cool

[sharp acorn]

@ebon spokeamazing share, thanks

[uncut harness]

Are these new in the files or have they been hidden for a while?

[icy citrus]

Lurking

[vapid crane]

@ebon spoke @gusty berry Thanks for sharing! These are awesome!

Are there any interior changes? Or is it only the exterior look?

[shrewd finch]

OH MY 👀

[mental socket]

heckle

[normal dagger]

Did you not reset?

The simulation

The universe

[ornate path]

Existence

[normal dagger]

If you choose not to reset then you stay in the starter galaxy @uncut harness

On a random planet, with all your tech broken

Yes, existence, thank you Dr.

Did you have a choice to reset existence?

If not then you haven't missed the chance

But even if you don't reset, you can still core hop thru all the galaxies

Doesn't sound like it

[uncut harness]

Your ship is broken?

[spice gorge]

Oh wow - those varied stations would add a lot to the game, now that I think about it.

I hope that's actually coming.

https://twitter.com/PeacefulGamer/status/1637850093377167361?s=20

Peaceful Gamer (@PeacefulGamer)

Every Space Station Procedural (SOON?)

Very interesting find in the #NoMansSky game files of procedural Space Station designs currently accessible by changing a value using a mod but these are in the game!

Could these make it into a coming update???

👇👇👇

Twitter · Mar 20, 2023, 4:14 PM

[rough depot]

seeing this games art style progressively go from 50/60s sci fi simplicity to a very detailed 80s style has been pretty interesting

Remembering the days where starships literally looked like toys

[sharp acorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtbrLy5bLMk

[stray root]

New stations would be sweet

give us procedurally generation buildings too. Seeing the exact same buildings hundreds of times on every planet is boring AF

[sharp acorn]

"new stations coming" is speculation..... it's how content creators get what they want

[dreamy forge]

finally the station override will become useful...maybe

[tame grotto]

Nice discovery @ebon spoke and cool montage @grizzled apex

[dreamy forge]

https://fxtwitter.com/bomber_that/status/1637829432739090435

[tame grotto]

Btw if you update that link with fxtwitter.com the video will embed if there's one

[dreamy forge]

ahhhh nice

[tame grotto]

That looks way cool

[dreamy forge]

Yeah, somehting to look forward to for sure

[sharp acorn]

they are so cool looking

[dreamy forge]

they look very good. Lots of detail by the looks of it

[jaunty sedge]

@ebon spoke and @sharp acorn would it be alright if I included your screenshots in an upcoming video with credit given? And would either of you be able to answer a couple of questions? I was wondering which update added these to the game files and how they were accessed. I understand that you needed to change a particular value or set of values with a mod in order to enable them, but any additional insight would be awesome! Thanks!

[tame grotto]

Cc @grizzled apex

[sharp acorn]

I am just a lurker that was able to have the chance to see some inside stuff. I defer to AyyMang for all of that

[jaunty sedge]

Fair enough! The images you posted would still be credited to you though, correct?

[grizzled apex]

I have a set of images and videos I took of those today, can send you a link with the entire set if you'd need

[sharp acorn]

If AyyMang wishes for my photos to be used for their find, I am ok with that.

[grizzled apex]

The model files exist like any other procedural file rn. The only thing you'd need to change to make them show up, is to tell the game to load the new station file whenever it spawns a station, instead of the Old one, and it works perfectly, even implementing the per-system seed existing stations use

Iirc the file was added in Fractals

[sharp acorn]

I think they are still looking at that

[grizzled apex]

Fair, the diffs for the last few updates have been massive because of how many changes HG keep making to shaders, so it's difficult to comb through

I've been wondering about making a repo of file diffs just for that haha, maybe make them more readable

[sharp acorn]

so many others that should be answering, not me... I don't know shit 🙂

[jaunty sedge]

Thanks for the info!

[jaunty sedge]

Thank you regardless! I'm not rushing to produce a video right away. So @ebon spoke and others still have plenty of time to chime in if they'd like. I always try to offer as accurate information as is possible in my videos, so I appreciate all of your help.

[dreamy forge]

So what do you all think they're planning with all this?

[sharp acorn]

@jaunty sedgewhat do you go by on youtube?

[grizzled apex]

Theyve use the station interior which is sort of indicative I suppose, but calling them "Space Station Type B" sounds interesting

[sharp acorn]

new NMS B release.... LOL

[grizzled apex]

But then again development names aren't always what we see in game. Leviathans are called DeepSpace frigates and when we first found references to those it was sorta indicative of a totally different feature set 🤷‍♂️

[jaunty sedge]

I'm hoping it's a full overhaul. That being said, keeping the current abandoned and outlaw stations with the old designs would be cool. That way we have layers of history. Plus more variety!

But of course, I'd be happy with just the new exteriors. No crazy expectations here. lol

[dreamy forge]

I just wonder if these new ones will be ones we will be able to claim as our own and even customize

[sharp acorn]

this morning the game has been more enjoyable everytime I bounce to a new system and see a new style

[dense quartz]

This is pretty much my current wish for the future of NMS.
While new content is appreciated, the issue with it is that it's always so linear and same-y. I'd rather they just focus exclusively on existing content and expanding it and adding variety to that.

[stray root]

I feel like there is probably so much more their proc gen engine can do but they purposely keep it dumbed down

[dense quartz]

HG has actually been doing that since the start of 2022, they expanded and combat, pirates, freighters, added new stuff to space, tons of QoL updates.. and now I guess they'll be touching up space stations next.
I wonder how long they'll have to keep this up before the mainstream stops saying "ocean wide inch deep"

Yeah it's a shame, it could be so much crazier

[dreamy forge]

It's like the settlements. Cool idea at first but there isn't any depth at all with them. Just select a structure to build and throw a load of materials at it. That's it

[stray root]

Maybe hire a couple more artists whose job is to just add more variations to the various generators

Or maybe it's time for another complete universe reset. If it gave us more than a dozen planet types I'd be all in

[dense quartz]

Oh yeah, Frontiers was the last update they did where it was just "we added X because.. umm.. you can have it to do umm.."

[dense quartz]

I like joking about this, but imagine how much more crazy it would be if there were TWO models for knowledge stones. You'd never ever know what they'd look like depending on what system or planet you're on.
Now imagine if there were even more models.. now imagine that applied to every other planetary point of interest

[stray root]

Exploration would actually become interesting

[dense quartz]

Honestly, an update that adds variation to existing stuff would be more exciting to me than what Origins did by just adding more stuff which happens to get repetitive after a while

[stray root]

agreed

The game doesn't really need more systems it needs more depth/variety for what's already there

[dense quartz]

Yeah. I figure HG also realized this eventually and they've been changing their course with NMS since the start of 2022, but I'm surprised not a lot of people realized this

[dreamy forge]

Considering the original idea and vision for NMS was exploration it would be really cool if they could focus down that path again.

[stray root]

Probably a lot of newer players maybe? Anyone who's been here for years, loved it from the start, and are still around though are probably with us

[dense quartz]

I really love Kanaju's idea for exploration where each planet would have it's own logic where essential elements were or in what form you'd find them.
It would be unpredictable for every planet you'd land on and you'd be motivated to scan stuff to find what you need.
Instead of knowing exactly what oxygen, sodium and di-hydrogen looks like and where you can find it

[stray root]

Lately I feel like more people have been disappointed in the updates than excited for them

A reason to actually scan stuff would be amazing!

[dreamy forge]

and..uhh...fix the damn water!

[dense quartz]

Well yeah, I consider Waypoint and Fractal to be like 'pitstops' for what they possibly have planned, but looking at the timeline as a whole, I'd say they're still on track to overhauling existing stuff rather than just adding new useless stuff.
To me, they've officially stopped that after Frontiers

[jaunty sedge]

Thanks for watching! 😉

[dense quartz]

Heh, ever since I heard your idea, I can't stop wishing that was a thing xD

[jaunty sedge]

I agree. They've been on a real improving-existing-features-rather-than-adding-new-ones streak since 2022 began. I'm hoping they tackle space stations and planetary generation next. lol

And of course procedural missions and dungeons. 😉

[dense quartz]

I just had a thought, what would the abandoned version of those space stations look like 👀

[stray root]

And what if they were like the abandoned freighters and inside was an even larger unexplored area full of loot/mobs

[dense quartz]

Oh hell yes

[spice gorge]

Oh, . I enjoy your videos. Especially the ones looking back at earlier days.

[dense quartz]

I wonder if we'll possibly see the space anomaly get an exterior refresh as well. I don't think that's ever been touched after release

[gusty berry]

Can you wait a bit while I get the proc colours back

[solar cairn]

Station override update????

SPACE BASE????

[sharp acorn]

@solar cairnit's a content creator speculation, take it with a grain of salt

[solar cairn]

True. Yeah. But speculation is always nice.

Not the channel for it, but still

[ebon spoke]

Hey, you are totally free to use my screenshots how you want! It is worth noting though, in my screenshots specifically, my ship and space colours are significantly different from vanilla due to some other mods I have active.

As they are in the files now, the stations are set up to use the normal interior scene, although we have reason to believe that this will change, as the hangar entrance is a different shape from the station entrance so it makes a weird gap. The windows inside are often also looking at weird floating geometry because they point at the insides of the models, which gives more credence to an interior change.

As Quintessential Professional mentioned, the colours are also not currently working as intended. The textures are complete, but the texture settings are pointing them to procedural colours that do not exist, so every one of these stations has a blue base colour, where when they get fully implemented the colours will probably match the system's freighters like they do normally.

For the full story of how these were found, I was basically just going through the game's space station textures when I noticed that there is an entire folder of "Type B" textures that are not present in older versions of the game. So I checked the model folder, and sure enough there was an entire set of procedural models, structured about the same as other station types. I poked around the files for it a bit with a text editor, and confirmed that everything needed for a station to work was already in there. All I had to do to make it spawn was to change a file that controls what stations are used for what system types (normal, abandoned, pirate controlled) and set the normal station to be the Type B instead. There are no clues for what systems this is intended to spawn in.

Hangar entrance that is misaligned and scuffed window view

[sharp acorn]

I didn't have any active color or texture mods when I took my screenshots, as I was in the middle of ship-hunting when I added the mod for the stations.

[solar cairn]

Thank you mod side of NMS

[gusty berry]

@jaunty sedge

also just published the mod doing this #nms-modding

[jaunty sedge]

Thank you so much for the detailed response! Duly noted. Thanks again for answering my questions.

[jaunty sedge]

Good to know! Thanks!

[jaunty sedge]

Fantastic shots! Does this mean I can use your images with credit as well?

[gusty berry]

sure, if you have any questions ask in #nms-modding or the modding discord too

!moddinglink

[cloud jolt]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[sharp acorn]

@jaunty sedge

this mod is so cool

[jaunty sedge]

Got it. Thanks!

[jaunty sedge]

That would be great if it's no inconvenience!

[shrewd finch]

Gorgeous space stations daaaaaaaaang

[wind panther]

Someone's probably in trouble today at HG. "Who left the damned B stations in the build?!"

[solar cairn]

Can these be in different colors? And have abandoned stations changes any?

[wind panther]

With Winder's mod they can be in different colors, he fixed the texture palette references

[solar cairn]

Oohhh

[wind panther]

Abandoned stations are still the same, as far as we know

[solar cairn]

Man. No love to abandoned stations

Can't wait to explore all of these

[wind panther]

They could have plans for it; they obviously aren't done making these yet

[solar cairn]

True.

I remember suggesting the station overrides for abandoned stations to allow the player to clean them up

Don't know if that would ever happen

[wind panther]

Since they never added the station core to the abandoned stations, I doubt that's the plan

But they still could

[dense quartz]

I love how that one isn't symmetrical and has it's 'wings' sorta flopped in different directions

[dense quartz]

Is it a sphere or a triangle?
Yes.

[sour fossil]

Gotta say Im a fan of how HG replaces the plasticy, toy looking elements of the universe with more realistic ones, with much richer details

Starship parts overhaul, base building parts, now space stations

Wondering if MTs will eventually get an overhaul as well, Im sick of seeing the Tediore looking ass rifles

[dense quartz]

Yeah, thought what's weird is that it seems like the modelers at HG are gaining experience way faster than the game can get updates.
Each new model overhaul makes even recent overhauls look outdated oddly enough

Like freighters got reskinned to not look like plastic toys anymore, but compared to these space stations, they kinda look like toys again since there's nowhere nearly as detailed 😅

[sour fossil]

Yeah I get your point

My guess would be folks working on models aren't bound as much as people working on new features, code, animations, which depend largely on the hardware the game will go on

But in the end, these models might still get axed and cut off the final release

[solar cairn]

There is a name for this type of bloated triangular prism thing.

[dense quartz]

I wonder if these are set models or if they're modular/procedural to an extent

[wind panther]

Procedural

[solar cairn]

This is gonna be a large June/July update I think. Lots of things going on

[amber knot]

Reuleaux triangle?

[solar cairn]

Yeah!

[livid zinc]

Hope the stations come into the game sooner than later

[livid zinc]

Not speculation though

https://youtu.be/2_8FSt-FynI

[sour fossil]

It will be real when it gets featured in actual update

But that doesn't stop click farmers to post shit like that

[sharp acorn]

That ^

[sour fossil]

Because that sweet sweet 💸

[tawdry topaz]

dang, i had the idea to set up atlas coords and eat their 2 words without talking to the ai and hop between stations like that, but the game doesn't allow it xD they Know

[sour fossil]

Remember how Incinerator was definetely coming?

How freighter elevators were just around the corner?

[icy citrus]

Yo we got those wind turbines too, remember

And the starship customizer, that's for sure

Don't count them in, until they are in.

[sour fossil]

I dont member turbines, I've heard about the unfinished starship customizer

[icy citrus]

Yeah, we had some wind turbines and some other base part too

[sour fossil]

That's cool

[sharp acorn]

I don't despise or hate content creators, they have provided me lots of guidance, but I hate those kinds of tactics

[icy citrus]

Base turrets, that was the part

[solar cairn]

Oooo let's point out the common clickbait tactics:
Red text/arrow ✔️
Over exaggerated facial expression ✔️
Open ended speculative question✔️
Common screenshot with "new material" ✔️

[eternal radish]

I really hope this makes it to NMS!

But yeah, I'd rather be surprised than disappointed so I don't hold any expectations.

[dense quartz]

I actually assume that the elevators weren't meant to be buildable but maybe things you'd use to get to the bridge, and in the end HG just scrapped it in favor of teleporters for technical reasons

[sharp acorn]

the NMS teleporters are 1000s x better than the Elite Dangerous elevators

[solar cairn]

Moving platforms just are a collision, and "states" nightmare

So many clipping. Sticking. Players falling through. "how would build cam work?"

[gusty berry]

speaking of elevators I'm p sure the gravity bubble thing I ripped out is meant to be an elevator

since the name of the room is literally called "gravlift"

and the build cam just immediately sets its "down" towards the gravity bubble's down when you enter it, it's p fun

[sour fossil]

Glitch build multiple of them overlapping and and angles, let the camera go crazy

[uncut harness]

These models have been in the files for a while right?

Nothing to hint they're suddenly being added soon just because the community found them hidden away

[wanton path]

Procedural stations: cool
Procedural planetary buildings: awesome

[livid zinc]

Nobody said the stations are coming out now but they weren't in the files before last big update so should be open to speculative chat about them

https://youtu.be/nBYTMjHFmpc

[livid zinc]

You deleted your comment but the speculation part I am on about is when they are actually going to appear.

The speculation I meant is that when the stations were originally revealed the thought was they may be fan made but that was proven wrong so we just wait now to see what happens but knowing they are there and many designs I am excited to know what the interiors might be when it happens. 😉

[inner sandal]

Does anything sad happen to ||Nada|| ?

[frank gale]

no not really

[inner sandal]

Ok

[frank gale]

nothing really sad happens to Nada, but he does say some sad shit at the end

[inner sandal]

What exactly?

[frank gale]

well if you pick the option to reset the galaxy at the end

they kinda forget you

[inner sandal]

I didn’t experience this despite resetting the simulation🤔

[dense quartz]

Is this the first time something like this has happened in nms on this scale with a possible leak?
This feels so much bigger than the flamethrower getting patched out or endurance already leaked freighter and asteroid overhauls

It just feels crazy that someone found new space station models and made a mod to enable them.. Like we basically have a piece of upccoming content before it was revealed or released

[dense quartz]

Oh one more example I can think of is the trade rocket being datamined and modded in, but it was so WIP that we couldn't tell what it was

[gusty stream]

Yeah I don't think we've ever seen something so thoroughly complete just hidden like that

Well "complete"

[dense quartz]

Yeah I know what you mean

The models look fully complete and it's a replacement to something that was untouched in the game since launch, so it really feels huge

[gusty stream]

I only wonder what else they'll do with space stations.

Since they seem to be part of some upcoming update

[dense quartz]

The exterior entrance makes me hope the interiors are redesigned completely, at least the landing tracks would be wider

Something that was needed since 2019

[gusty stream]

Can't wait to give the new stations some...thorough exploration

[sharp acorn]

one of the teleports I did to a station while using the mod, it put me in space dying

so I have mostly been warping, then flying IN stations, but not teleporting to them

[dense quartz]

I've seen Jason Plays get yeeted out of the space station when getting out of his ship too

[sharp acorn]

I play permadeath, so I can't abide that 🙂

[dense quartz]

It's almost like the space stations aren't functioning as intended

[sharp acorn]

@dense quartzI wonder if certain asymetrical additions put the address off center

no idea, really, I don't know coding stuff, so just a wild guess

[livid zinc]

I noticed this happen to a few people

[sour fossil]

With space stationas getting overhauled, wondering if we will get proc gen interiors