nms-spoilers

[hard otter]

but when i went to another one it asked for the seed again

im streaming if u wanna see

[icy citrus]

You just need to warp for the Purge, not actually reach the center

[cedar iron]

Well there you have it

Stream isn't loading for me sorry

Just

Go along the path to the centre until you reach near it

Don't actually go into the centre once you get there

[icy citrus]

The Purge is the mission that teaches you the glyphs, so you just need to warp 16 times and then some stuff will happen

You can warp back and forth between two systems if you want to

[hard otter]

so just warp to random locations

[icy citrus]

That's boring, but you can

[cedar iron]

Oh THAT'S what you do to trigger it

I got stuck here too lol

[icy citrus]

Yep

[cedar iron]

I never found out what to actually do

It just did it on it's own

[bold heart]

I think it's more thematic if you follow the path it sets to the galactic center

but yes

[hard otter]

welp haha i just finished jumping the 10 or so i needed

so what now? just forget the final mission so i dont lose everything?

[bold heart]

You won't lose everything

Just continue. Time is running out

[hard otter]

lol wdym?

[bold heart]

time isn't actually running out but who knows

anyway the end is near, keep going

would like to warn you one thing

If you choose to reset the simulation it WILL break every single thing you own (starship, exosuit, multitool, every technology is damaged)

[rapid tangle]

Most recommended is usually doing the purge when you need to do warps for the Atlas missions. You get hyperdrive fuel, Glyphs, atlas words, while you are filling in the requirements for 16 warps

[bold heart]

all the galaxies already exist, if you want to get to one of them you can get there via someone else

I say stay in euclid tho

[rapid tangle]

Which also makes me ask, Did you do "Birth of a New Star" too.

[bold heart]

what quest is that?

[hard otter]

i only have 2 primary missions left: The Purge, and The Space Anomaly

[rapid tangle]

Because "The Purge" and "Birth of a New Star" go hand in hand.

So you got all the recipes?

[hard otter]

and yes i selected to create a new star

[rapid tangle]

Ah, then you finished it.

[hard otter]

so i dont need to do the center stuff?

[rapid tangle]

You never needed to go to the center.

[bold heart]

I have to say, when it comes to endings that (spoilers: outer wilds) || involve the end of one thing and creating something new, no man's sky is definitely still second to outer wilds||

[hard otter]

welp haha guess im never finishing the quest then

[rapid tangle]

The Purge is just warping 16 times. And then you will end up at an Atlas Terminal.

[bold heart]

Then the game gives itself the PERFECT place to roll credits but chooses not to

[rapid tangle]

I just warp to Atlas stations for Atlas words.

[bold heart]

I just decided to try editing the credits onto the spot I thought they'd work and shazam

they work perfectly

[solar cairn]

Still on about this game's credits. Game never ends. So there is no credits to say "it's finished"

[gilded lagoon]

Itl also do that if you chose not to reset the simulation and go to the galactic core anyway (i speak from experience)

[slow hatch]

Also every time you go through the core. (I speak from MUCH experience.)

[rapid tangle]

Well, Pokemon (1999), and Minecraft did it... don't see why NMS can't :P

[solar cairn]

NMS is built different

[bold heart]

Is this specific OST supposed to play while you're pulsing to the galactic core during the purge?
https://youtu.be/enavA3qyduo

because it did, and to me it sorta gave off the exact opposite vibe to Final Voyage from Outer Wilds which made the whole thing like 10x better

spoilers: outer wilds
||Final Voyage gives off a huge sense of climactic and inevitable closure one way or another, this one gave off a sense of impending but tranquil death, it was really special||

Felt like there wasn't any going back and that I was leaving everything behind to put this universe out of its misery

that part there is the exact same

[solar cairn]

Yeah, believe so. Then Supermoon plays when you jump to a new galaxy

[solar cairn]

But yeah, that's generally the sense of the game. You're going to either stay or create a new galaxy, leaving everything you discovered, friends made, all of it.

Once you do jump to a new galaxy, the song that plays is supposed to give this "rebirth" feel. Which I don't think happens in the Outer Wilds. But if you try to return to Nada or Polo. They won't remember you.

[bold heart]

There's ||The quick electric guitar track during the big bang?||

[solar cairn]

I believe so. I'll find a YouTube video of it

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Nru86VmoEK4&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

[bold heart]

Referencing this, vibe is kinda similar https://youtube.com/shorts/tlmUSX5Jsmc?feature=share

[solar cairn]

Kinda, but that one doubles down on the completion vibe

It feels like the ending of a ballad or an elegy if that makes sense

It's like a memorial song I've heard before from 2stepsfromhell

[bold heart]

True, it's really good in outer wilds' case because unlike NMS it's the only track of the ost that's anything like that

[solar cairn]

Its like saying goodbye to a companion.

[bold heart]

Yeah, especially since credits roll afterwards and uh

[solar cairn]

Yep, enough said

[bold heart]

14.3 billion years is enough to make me cry, still

Hearing exploration 14 so much during gameplay sorta slowly ruined the vibe it had

Still, if ||during the ending, nada, polo, artemis, null and apollo were remembered in some way to help shape the universe, sort of like outer wilds, that'd really make it worth the credit roll it never got||

[solar cairn]

That isn't the focus of it though.

In NMS, the cycle wasn't broken.

Once Atlas got reset, and youre in a new galaxy. Everything you did doesn't exist.

(except you still get Artemis dialogue in the Anomaly - don't know if they remember you after the reset if you spared them)

In outer wilds, you break the cycle. There is now an end

If I could pin a theme to it without getting religious, it's like reincarnation instead of an afterlife.

[subtle gorge]

In essence what you're doing in NMS is buying into the atlas's own delusion when you reset it. Nothing changes, the threat to its existence doesn't go away,this has happened before several times.

It's proven to do nothing but erase the atlas's inhabitance

[solar cairn]

Or just make it feel good being used like a machine again

[subtle gorge]

Honestly I'm kind of sad that that decision has more of a gameplay impact than the rest because it's just as based in philosophy rather than objective morality

[solar cairn]

Yeah. It tries to answer what comes after and that's already hard to do. We tried

[subtle gorge]

I still love it, I just wish less happened honestly.

[solar cairn]

I don't know if the dialogue changes when you get confronted near the end. But I remember it saying in my playthrough that I was capable of good and bad, letting Artemis die (good?) And helping Apollo (bad?)

But morality is already a very subjective topic

[subtle gorge]

But turning one of the most complex questions the game asks into "do you want to go to a new galaxy" for a lot of people kind of annoys me

[solar cairn]

Yeah, I understand that. That's how many interpreted it when they did finish it. I saw it more on a philosophical standpoint, and mirroring it to real life throughout

NMS tried to give a new perspective on very old but very hard questions

Can anyone confirm if Artemis remembers you across resets tho? Because if so. That seems like a plot hole

[subtle gorge]

They don't as far as I know

[brazen cedar]

@unborn bough

[unborn bough]

Thank you for sharing this friend-entity @brazen cedar

[brazen cedar]

Will keep them coming if you wish.

[unborn bough]

I’ll have to work on them anyway, but thank you for helping out. Please share whatever you come across, it will be tremendous in completing the excel sheet. You can also try to take part in our initiative if it’s alright, and if @uncut harness is also open to the idea.

[uncut harness]

of course

I can dm you the link if you wish @brazen cedar

[solar cairn]

Where did you get that dialogue?

[icy citrus]

Planetary archives

[solar cairn]

Nice

[brazen cedar]

yes, let's see if I can sort myself out enough to help

[onyx heart]

Have we always been able to customize our freighters?

Like the color

Or is it just a switch thing

[icy citrus]

Not always, but for a couple years now

[onyx heart]

Oh

[little zephyr]

what do i do

atlas is dying and if i reset him in the center of the galaxy the world might end and whith that my life the other choises are compleat atlas path or explore the galaxy

amma not reset it

[thorny rover]

Follow your heart

[little zephyr]

yea amma explore

and now i need living water lol

o well

tryna get the living ship

[thorny rover]

Ah
Bad news

You have to complete the story to get it

[little zephyr]

wellllll

i guess to the middle of the galaxy it is

[thorny rover]

You do not have to the middle per se

Just do what the quest says and warp 16 times

[little zephyr]

emm alright

[thorny rover]

Then you appear at an Atlas station and choose if you reset it or not

You reset it:||you get to choose a type of galaxy to go to and your tech breaks, all of it||
You don't: nothing happens

[little zephyr]

and what do i do if i choose to reset it ||do i just re build||

[thorny rover]

No

[little zephyr]

ok

[latent heath]

Any fancy updates on experimental oooor is 4.0 sorta in maintence mode at this point?

@mental socket ?

Waiting patiently on sean emote tweet

[mental socket]

👀

Hello hello. I have no idea what's happening with NMS at this point other than HG opening two new permanent vacancies for designer and build engineer

**● As a hands-on implementer, directly create new missions, stories, expeditions or features.

● Bring the player’s perspective to features as they’re developed.**

these were the most noteworthy responsibilities in the designer position

they're scaling up the workforce on expeditions, missions and story content

[tame grotto]

Ooh that's juicy

[mental socket]

Greetings Interactive Medium

[latent heath]

oh i completely missed that

how old was it since they started?

also sup azure hope u been good

[mental socket]

1month ago says linkedin

been alright. Just living life, learning about dev stuff and working

[latent heath]

i find it kinda funny with #2 given seans trackrecord and fix of stories told

lol

[latent heath]

@mental socket thanks azure for the info. cuz i havent played properly in like 3-6 months >_>

[latent heath]

@umbral spear boop. hopefully some decent news by time psvr2 drops ^^

[mental socket]

Same here. Been delving into other games

[latent heath]

i was killing time most of endurance active patching then went back to my ing and usual ff addiction lol

my usual nms cycle

lol

[solar cairn]

Hit expeditions hard m, overindulge, then gotta settle

[short sentinel]

Could, theoretically, Artemis's soul be attached to a Korvax casing or some other mechanical body to bring him back to reality

[solar cairn]

I'm still not sure what gives a korvax life. But maybe entering into a Convergence cube? But I also don't know how those are powered. Or even if a different race's consciousness could be uploaded to the cube.

[echo stag]

From an IT point of view yeah. If memory serves me well the name of the technique is wrapping, and is used to make legacy code to more modern interfaces. so you could put artemis soul in a simulation system that reads his movements sending them to the mechanical body, while taking inputs from the mechanical body's sensors to shape the simulated world around them like the outside world.

[ivory oasis]

...how do i go to the middle of the galaxy

i'm at the system closest

[sour fossil]

!faq-corewarp

[cloud jolt]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Galactic Core Warp**

• [How to reach the Galactic Core via Portals »](#nms-questions message) (works on any galaxy)

• [How to Warp to the Galactic Core »](#nms-questions message)

• Known list of galaxies »

• Infographic guide »

Contribution by: Use Less UK#7734, bkay201#1943, Jihiro#4838, xaki23#2797, RedHotTrouble#3707

[ivory oasis]

I can't seem to select it

There is no path

Can anybody help?

The only path is up to a system i already visited

[thorny rover]

Psst....spoiler it 👀

[ivory oasis]

oh, do i have to mark them in this channel as well?

of course, give me a second

huh

I can't seem to spoiler it

[thorny rover]

Yeah, only not in #nms-spoilers

[ivory oasis]

aren't we in #nms-spoilers ?

[thorny rover]

Wait fuck

[ivory oasis]

now the question is, ||which galaxy to choose?||

[thorny rover]

Do what you want
Just FYI if you reset it will break all your tech

[ivory oasis]

break as in remove or break as in have to repair

[thorny rover]

Have to repair it

All of it

[ivory oasis]

ohhh thats fine

i'm already at the chamber where i choose so it's not like i can back out anyways

[thorny rover]

Huh

Well choose green

[verbal gate]

Really I thought it broke what wasn't in the tech slot or am I just old?

[thorny rover]

Old

[verbal gate]

oof

[thorny rover]

Also you seem to steal my name ||/s||

[verbal gate]

It's my gt ahh

[thorny rover]

CastPandora is mine too

[ivory oasis]

I love how the loading screen goes backward

[verbal gate]

Mine was CastTax changed it to just Cast

[thorny rover]

Hmm

[ivory oasis]

JESUS THATS FAST

[thorny rover]

Might change mine too but I'll keep mine as its how xbox made it

[verbal gate]

Feel that lol

[verbal gate]

Going well I assume mate ?

[ivory oasis]

can I ping an atlas emissary for a previous post?

[thorny rover]

Anyway nice to see Another Cast who likes nms and fallout

[verbal gate]

😅

[thorny rover]

Not advised but I'm not your mom

[ivory oasis]

wait you aren't?

[verbal gate]

Very nice good job

[thorny rover]

No
You're going to the orphanage again

[ivory oasis]

😔

[short sentinel]

"I will never forget how Artemis's smile falters."

Okay thanks, now I'm tearing up. I really fucking hope they'll forgive me

[solar cairn]

Which decision did you choose?

[short sentinel]

Integrated Atremis within the Korvax simulation, then presented their new universe as a positive during The First Traveler

[solar cairn]

Oooh chose to save Artemis!

I'm still wondering about a bit of dialogue with that choice I haven't seen before, but couldn't get confirmed

[short sentinel]

I heavily regret saving Artemis if they won't forgive me for it

[solar cairn]

Well, gotta keep playing to find out

[short sentinel]

Hah, assuming I don't get forever absorbed in base building

Hm. If Artemis could be integrated within a Korvax simulation, they could probably have been integrated into a Korvax casing.

[solar cairn]

Maybe.

[eternal radish]

Eventually Artemis accepts their reality and is ready to explore their new simulation.

[eternal radish]

If only cloning was a thing in NMS and we could clone Artemis 🥺

[short sentinel]

Oh thank God

One day we'll at least get Apollo and Artemis as Anomaly NPCs I hope

[eternal radish]

Plz make it happen 😭😭😭

[short sentinel]

Or even as squadmates in space!

[eternal radish]

I'd love to have Artemis and Apollo as squadron members 😍

Multiple people have nicknamed my character "Artemis' little sister" 🤣

[solar cairn]

That's hopeful thinking. NMS is a bit somber in terms of story with that

[short sentinel]

Had to condemn null lmao

That call hit a little rough

[brazen cedar]

@unborn bough

[unborn bough]

Thank you friend-entity @brazen cedar

[latent heath]

Tbh || i always choose ending her suffering cuz it literally is a mercy if u think about it ||

[latent heath]

In long term

[eternal radish]

There are many ways to look at it

What if in the future there is a solution for Artemis and we can bring them back?

[latent heath]

I mean ye but i dont expect it much

Given we reset the simulation ANYWAY i see arthemis as a literal none consequence

Kinda

[eternal radish]

I wonder if resetting the simulation fixed Artemis.

[latent heath]

Maybe? Dunno

[solar cairn]

That's what I wanted to find out, because resetting Atlas made Nada and Polo forget us, but does Artemis remember us if we placed them in the machine?

Currently there isn't a way to contact Apollo or Null to see if they remember us, the other traveller entities

But if Artemis does remember us, does that mean travellers are not affected by system reset? Or are they gone from the simulation entirely? Undoing our work?

[eternal radish]

I think we need a continuation on the story.

[candid lark]

So are we travellers or anomalies?

Like, others refer to us as travellers

[slow hatch]

We're anomalies to the Atlas, travelers to the rest.

When I jump galaxies through the core, every reset I get an Atlas sphere with the same "Iteration" flavor text, which calls me a compliant anomaly.

[tranquil pendant]

Greetings, I cannot seem to find a portal to use, so that I can travel to destinations with coordinates. I've already chosen to refuse the atlas. Ideas?

[sly zephyr]

Artemis forming up high on your six, awaiting coordinates, over

[thorny rover]

!faq-portals

!faq-portal

[cloud jolt]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207>**Locating a Portal** <:portal3:592836099731357696>

• [Using Planetary Charts »](#nms-questions message)

• [Using Exocraft »](#nms-questions message)

• For uncharted systems, obtain the glyph address of that system and portal to it from another system.

• To fully use the portal network, the player should have unlocked all 16 portal glyphs.

• A portal is not the same as a teleporter. [See the differences here »](#no-mans-sky message)

Run !Faq-PortalGlyphs and !Faq-PortalUse in #bot-spam to learn more about glyphs and using portals.

Contribution by: bkay201#1943, Use Less Uk#7734

[fluid hornet]

so uhh
if I'm getting it right back in the first spawn days there was two species of gek?

[thorny rover]

More like 2 subspecies

But yes

[fluid hornet]

yee I forgot this word exists

thanks

[solar cairn]

Subspecies is a bit rough. But the First Spawn were essentially the first borne from the spawning pool. I haven't read anything of lesser Geks

[brazen cedar]

@uncut harness Do you have this one yet?

[uncut harness]

I do actually, finished all the gek and korvax lore

Words included

I don't have any V'ykeen stuff though

[proud mirage]

HELP

Wait

[uncut harness]

With what?

[proud mirage]

I’m doing the leylines and glyphs and there was a metal like ball I could push around sorta is it important?

The visor wouldn’t scan it or tell me anything

Because I pushed it and it rolled down the hill and into a lake

[uncut harness]

Can you mine it?

And does it give runaway mould?

[proud mirage]

Nope can’t mine it and can’t do anything except kinda push it around

Can I post a link?

[heady wyvern]

Metal ball found at an ancient ruin?

[proud mirage]

YAAAS

[heady wyvern]

Ignore.

[proud mirage]

OH COOL thank

[solar cairn]

Metal... Ball?

[latent heath]

Why do i have low suspicion its gravitino ball, unless he means the ruin football lol

[latent heath]

Big ball on the ruin pier

[heady wyvern]

Because gravitinos don't roll.

[latent heath]

Where burried chests is

[solar cairn]

Picture?

[pure jungle]

How do i get a remembrance?

[regal heron]

you do the Atlas Path and you don't refuse at the end
type !faq-Atlaspath in #bot-spam for more info

[pure jungle]

Ok thank you

[regal heron]

wait no! I think I'm mixed up with Star seed here
but you need to be able to craft The Heart of the Sun from the Atlas Path to make remembrance, but I think you get the bp for remembrance during the Artemis Path
someone correct or confirm me here please

[pure jungle]

Is it possible to do both paths snyways? Because i would like to see black holes on the map too

[regal heron]

Totally, in fact it’s often recommended to do the Atlas path at the same time as the Purge part of the Artemis path as you need to do warps for the purge and the Atlas Path has you warping between Atlas stations

[pure jungle]

Ok thanks again!

[short sentinel]

Does using the Heart of The Sun at the end of the Atlas Path consume it and force me to make a new one

[pure jungle]

How can i find an atlas?

[short sentinel]

Ask polo where they are

[uncut harness]

Yes

You need two in total, one for remembrance and one for the final interface

[meager zodiac]

I was somewhat disappointed when Atlas made a star for me but I didn't get to see it. I was looking forward to discovering it and naming everything myself. Was going to settle down and treat the planetside aspect of the game with more care.

I assumed that the system you land in after the black hole was the new one. So I settled in and made base computers at all the portals in the system. When it ended up being exactly the same as any other system I got a dejected feeling.

[slow hatch]

Have you finished the Artemis questline?

[meager zodiac]

Think so

Did I miss something maybe?

I was driven by the ending of The Atlas Path quest line so I tried to make sure I didn't mess it up

[slow hatch]

I'm not sure. At the end of Artemis, you are given a choice.

I don't want to ruin it for you if you haven't reached it.

[meager zodiac]

Oh I consider myself done playing the game

[slow hatch]

Okay.

[meager zodiac]

I'm seeking for reasons to launch it again

[slow hatch]

Well, although some things get repetitive, there are always unique finds.

[meager zodiac]

looked it up, I did complete artemis

Sort of wish I had simply restarted the simulation. Would have been a shortcut to a new galaxy.

Is there a way to reset it later on?

[slow hatch]

I set myself the goal to core jump to every galaxy in order. I'm in #37 right now.

[slow hatch]

You can always start a new save.

[meager zodiac]

I would have to progress through the quest line though. Might take a few IRL days of play to get to the button again.

[slow hatch]

Without using portals or other shortcuts, the core is your only way to another galaxy.

In your current save, that is.

[meager zodiac]

I kind of wanted a cool freighter and I enjoy derelicts, so I'll probably just do that instead

There's no way to make a permanent mark on the world in this game, besides discovery?

[slow hatch]

Upload your bases, those are permanent unless you delete them.

You can also rename everything.

Well, everything you find first.

[meager zodiac]

I did that but it looked like the real name was still under there

As if I just gave it a nickname for myself

There's a planet Klax out there

[slow hatch]

You have to rename before you upload it.

[meager zodiac]

I did

[slow hatch]

There's also a The Moon Formerly Known As Prince, too. LOl

[meager zodiac]

Ah, Little Prince

[slow hatch]

And we're getting out of spoiler range; we should take it back to #no-mans-sky

[meager zodiac]

yeah

Returning it to the starting question. Does ATLAS actually create a new star for you? It's kind of impossible to tell the difference.

[slow hatch]

I honestly have no idea.

I haven't done that quest in two years, and I'm not a serious loremaster.

[meager zodiac]

It literally says it's adding people and a history to the starsystem, so as to explain it looking exactly like everywhere else.

[uncut harness]

no

[unborn bough]

OwO!

[uncut harness]

there are a set number of stars

[meager zodiac]

Would have been neat to be able to set the parameters yourself :-\

[unborn bough]

No

[prime inlet]

doing so is the only way to unlock star seed though

[unborn bough]

And it’s a rather nice mission with good lore.

[uncut harness]

would be a cool feature if you chose some planets, then the game located and transported you to a system that fits

[meager zodiac]

That could work. Yeah. Send you to an undiscovered place that fits parameters that you set, and let you discover it yourself.

Done with spoilers then.

[candid lark]

Interesting from a boundary failure -

How do we know that we exist? We are nothing, or we are more. The Atlas once asked our creator how they could be sure that they were real. They told them the probability that we too were in a simulation, glass reflected in a mirror, Balaron, Dryn'dargh, Korvax Prime, all other homeworlds.....all of them had an 'Atlas'. All of them had a machine designed to simulate realities. What if this is all reality truly is? Dream upon Dream, coalescing into a sum beyond its parts. What if waking is inevitable? Goodbye, Traveller. I will protect you until the end.....I will protect you until the final day, the final hour, the final moment. Even as everything dies, I shall live again.

[short sentinel]

So I used the Heart of The Sun at an atlas station and I just got a piece of dialogue and the option to leave

was that really the whole questline

[uncut harness]

you also got a piece of tech

[short sentinel]

No I didn't

[uncut harness]

the star seed, you get it at the end of the atlas path

[short sentinel]

???

I don't have anything

[uncut harness]

Then you haven't finished it

[short sentinel]

What stages are there after using the heart of the sun

The quest disappeared from my log

All I have left is New Beginnings and The Space Anomaly

[tepid iris]

Do we believe we'll get NMS update news next week?

or not until the week of the 22nd?

[solar cairn]

Gameplay wise, no.
Storywise, yes

[heady wyvern]

That's it, chief.

Mind you, it's a blueprint for a technology, not a packaged technology.

[short sentinel]

Oh, so after crafting a dozen items, I can craft a new item

[uncut harness]

Guys I just finished the Artemis quest path after a REALLY long time and I let him die. I was one of the toughest decisions I’ve ever made in games

I figured I should put them at peace rather than feel pain

And they would only be confined to one system and they were an explorer

[solar cairn]

Same

[eternal radish]

I always uploaded them. I wish there was another, better option. Artemis deserves better 🥺

[solar cairn]

The sweet release of death

[eternal radish]

Artemis the angel

[latent heath]

Both me and @uncut harness kinda agrees its a mercy

[uncut harness]

Yeah, it's a tough decision, but after seeing how they react to being uploaded, I couldn't do that again

[latent heath]

No mans sky may be a basic as hell story but still engaging/thought provoking

[uncut harness]

Sure, the gameplay aspect is basic, but once you read the rest of the lore it's more detailed than it seems

[solar cairn]

This story... Is not basic

[candid lark]

Yeah, this story is deep. Dealing with the ideas of how you define reality. It bears some resemblance to The Matrix

How do we know where the simulation ends? How do we know whats a simulation and whats reality?

Read that paragraph I found on a Boundary Failure above

[proud mirage]

Dude like okay I reset the simulation? And now every single piece of tech I have is completely broken I have no idea where I am.

🥺

I’m scared

I don’t know how to construct the heart of the sun

[azure grove]

yea its supposed to do that

everytime u go to a new galaxy everything breaks

u gotta fix it

[proud mirage]

Fix everything?

[azure grove]

just the basics

u can still call ur other ships

but nothing is gonna fix on its own

and u can still call ur freighter

[regal heron]

you are in a new galaxy, but don't worry you can get back to Euclid very easily by using a teleporter
If you want to carry on exploring this new galaxy then put down a base computer before leaving and that way you can come back

[proud mirage]

Okay 👍 peachy.

[azure grove]

ive gone through the center 3 times and said nah screw this. each person thats in a galaxy i dont have yet i just put a computer down and come back later lol

too lazy to portal to the center however many times and fix everything

[regal heron]

as for the heart of the sun you should have 10 blueprints that you make in order that will end up with the heart of the sun if you've finished the Atlas path, if not you'll get them when you do that
first though get the important tech fixed up, it's like the start of the game again but this time you know what to do 😁

[proud mirage]

Awww my old trusty Pillar of whatchamacallit came to the rescue.

[proud mirage]

I was worried I major major messed up and would have to really start over again with a new save.

[regal heron]

nah, all your old bases and stuff is exactly where you left it
which galaxy did you end up in out of interest?

[proud mirage]

I don’t know just a sec

Hilbert

[solar cairn]

Galaxy 2

[dense quartz]

Yeah like upload him to a simulation he can build on our freighter and talk to Artemis whenever.
Hell, give up tech that allows Artemis to transmit a hologram of their body onto the freighter base, much better faith

[echo stag]

#myfreighterlikethearcadia (Harlock reference ||where his ship hosts the soul/digitalized mind of his best friend||)

[dense quartz]

YES. SEAN MAKE IT INTO A FEATURE I BEG YOU

[solar cairn]

Such wholesome people. Want to save everyone

[eternal radish]

Yes.

Such a wholesome looking universe. Why isn't it actually wholesome? 😭😭😭

[solar cairn]

Because when you peek behind the curtains, everything is at least a little depressing

[tiny zealot]

I got the "You abandoned me, just like everyone else" dialogue no long ago... was really a "Who-? Wha-? Get Outta my Comms!" moment, lol. Meh, I might try to save her...

( I know, they're going for the gender-neutral approach, but with a name like Artimis, that there be a woman! Lol)

[eternal radish]

I think that was - null- tbh

[solar cairn]

That doesn't sound like Artemis

[eternal radish]

True. Artemis has a much friendlier tone than that.

-null- is pretty arrogant

[eternal radish]

Unless you mention Nada when you have to upload the distress beacon data to Artemis. They don't like that 😅

[eternal radish]

And after uploading them and telling the truth. Later they call you again and if you ask how their travels are this is their response.

I tried all (or almost all) the dialogue options.

[solar cairn]

Ouch. Kinda glad I let them die

[echo stag]

I think depends on how you approach the subject? What I got was them being grateful and saying they would build a starship and explore the system

[heady wyvern]

I believe it goes a little like [Put Artemis in the Korvax Sim] -> [Admit to Artemis that you put them in the sim] -> [Ask about travels]

What makes sense to me, at least.

Your route probably included you concealing the fact that you put Artemis in the sim.

[echo stag]

No no... I was honest with them. But I went for the "talk about pros" route

They said something about needing time to think and when they contacted me they were grateful and trying to cope

[eternal radish]

No. I was honest from the start.

[tepid iris]

Right

I dream last night that a NMS update was out random

but I can't remember what was in it 👀

[sick flame]

[normal dagger]

Are there any major differences in galaxies? Just wanna know before I jump 200 times

[uncut harness]

some galaxies have different types

normal, lush, harsh and empty

Euclid is normal, lush galaxies have more lush planets, harsh galaxies have more extreme planets, empty galaxies have more airless planets

[normal dagger]

Hmmmm, ok thank you. But no difference in ships creatures etc etc

[analog breach]

No. galaxies are just like diffrent seed. You can technicaly get every variation of ship or animals in euclid

[normal dagger]

Thank you.

[granite hatch]

What's the point of going to the galaxy center or resetting the simulation ? There are enough star systems why would you need a brand new galaxy/simulation ?

[uncut harness]

Different types of galaxy

Some galaxies have changed chances for certain planets in yellow systems

[echo stag]

Lore-wise you try to stabilize the simulation, because Atlas is glitching out... Gamewise what they said

[granite hatch]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Forgotten_Colonies : is it something we get talked about during the game ? I don't remember reading anything about this

[uncut harness]

Its a player civilisation

[tepid iris]

Maybe news next week since PS VR 2 launches then, right?

[analog breach]

22 feb i think

[sweet lynx]

the dog dies

[tame grotto]

@sweet lynx Review pinned channel rules.

[dense quartz]

I always felt that one line was out of character to Artemis.. I guess it's because her lines were written in 2017 and that one line was inserted with Beyond in 2019?

[eternal radish]

Well, despite Artemis' gentle personality she is constantly in fight or flight mode due to the situation they're in, being stuck in what's assumably the World of Glass, so she might have gotten pushy out of panic. Panic makes people act weird and I'm pretty sure it's the same for Travellers.

[tepid iris]

Soo seems like there's a content update or at least an expedition indeed

and not just the PS VR 2 update

I don't think he just means that PS VR 2 is cool with ❄️

[eternal radish]

I hope it's snowy mountains and pole caps

[tepid iris]

I think that'd be too obvious

Like 🍊 wasn't a fruit update

[eternal radish]

Last few emojis were pretty straightforward

[uncut harness]

But it was chosen because oranges is close sounding to origins.

So, what sounds like snowflake?

[slow hatch]

Could be "snow", or "cold". Cold would match "bold".

[ionic brook]

Can I build every single building in one planetary settlement or do I have to decide for some and therefore against others?

[candid lark]

afaik, the latter. It only allows for so many buildings, but you will get repeated choices

[ionic brook]

Hmm I see

I feel like I have the potential to completely ruin this settlement by making only the worst decisions😂 would just be great to know if I could maybe compensate for this by building all of the buildings

[uncut harness]

You will eventually build every building

The choices you make for buildings have no consequence other than the order they are built

[ionic brook]

That is really nice to know. Thank you.

[solar cairn]

Also been alive alone for long enough for the stars to change position in the sky.

[pure jungle]

Ok so what exactly is the "world of glass" ive dove into the lore of it but havent found much yet.. any theories?

[thorny rover]

Robo Ascendant Realm

[pure jungle]

Ive gathered about that much but i at least really dont know much about it.

[thorny rover]

Yeah, not much known

Other that its a higher plane of existence within the simulation

[uncut harness]

It's the equivalent of Recycle Bin on computers.

The data has been removed from the simulation but still exists for the time being.

[pure jungle]

Interesting

Do you think there will ever be a way to return to it?

[uncut harness]

No.

[pure jungle]

I figured as such

The lore in this game is pretty good

[analog breach]

Snowdrop? Its a game engine

[midnight kelp]

It could be some sort of customization update because every snowflake is unique and well you could make your stuff even more unique than it is and maybe even create your own species.

[twilit oak]

❄️ Procedural Generation?

[analog breach]

Snowflake is a fractal ❄️ .So its math . Sean loves math

[eternal radish]

Could that mean NMS is getting a new engine?

If so doesn't NMS have to be rebuilt from the ground? I am aware you can port models and assets from engine to engine, though.

[analog breach]

Hard to say. Its only a speculation. Its posible and i think it would be not that hard to change the engine since game is mostly math. And math is the same no matter the engine.

[eternal radish]

Would be great tho.

[analog breach]

I dont know how good is the engine tho. They made division 2 ,avatar : frontiers of pandora, and southpark game with it

[icy citrus]

NMS is running on a proprietary engine

They ain't switching to snowdrop

[uncut harness]

I'm 100% sure that NMS is their testing ground for new features and new ways to do things to help with their next game(s).
In turn growing their engine and speeding up development time.

[analog breach]

Hg is probably focusing now on psvr2 port and new update. I hope they will make their engine better even if they borrow tech from other engines. I could really take some ps4 performance upgrade. The crashes made me stop playing completely for some time.

[eternal radish]

I wonder if the engine NMS is made in will ever be publicly available, such as with Unreal Engine

[analog breach]

I think there are some other engines for procedural generation. Hg could do that after will finish working on the engine and they move on from nms to new projects.

[pure jungle]

I think I've found out that the "planet of glass" really is a sentinel main planet other than the obvious name implying so

[slow hatch]

What if "Glass" is the name or related to the creator of the Atlas, and in its final moments, it's crying out for help?

[pure jungle]

Good point
I also figured out though that the planet has agressive sentinels but i like you're theory more

And also in "A leap in the dark" we lure sentinels over to see where they come from and it leads to those plaques which lead us to that planet. But also ive seen some things that might say that the atlas created the sentinels such as the atlas protocol that occured when we got to the planet. Im not 100% sure but both of our theories could be true

[raw hatch]

I thought that the idea of a planet of glass referred to an artificial planet perhaps. like how a skyscraper could be described as a tower of glass, a planet of glass could be a big sentinel megastructure. Originally it sounds much more like a metaphor, like the glass is referencing clarity of existence / awareness of the simulation, however due to the physical sentinels, sentinel outposts, and sentinel capital ships, it could also be a physical place.

[solar cairn]

Well, it can also be described as WORLD OF GLASS.

Which could be a separate plane of existence itself

[regal heron]

I thought it was maybe referring to silicon chips and computers

[solar cairn]

Could be

[small pier]

When do you guys think Murray will post more on the emoji?

[solar cairn]

No idea

[trim willow]

Getting closer to psvr release date, you’d think it’d be coming out v soon

[icy citrus]

No, he never expands on the emoji

[regal heron]

we'll get the update and then all will make sense

[latent heath]

Massive doubt

[late tusk]

:(

[candid lark]

I don't see that theres any problem with the current engine tbh. Like maybe it struggles a tiny bit with elements of the game, but its an in-house engine afaik.

It could well be that they are doing a lot of devel work on it though, and only pushing a new build of the engine out every once in a while

[thorny rover]

(It won't)

[mild scarab]

do we have any datamined info?

[uncut harness]

I think there is a link between the world of glass and the green planet with an obsidian moon

Old conversation oops

[eternal radish]

Interesting nonetheless

The overseer told me they see glass

People told me the overseer is sus

[candid lark]

Who here has figured out why you shouldn't drink the water?

[eternal radish]

It has nanites in it.

Sentinels did it

[analog breach]

Gunter knows all patchnotes anyways 😄

[icy citrus]

@uncut harness This channel isn't for spamming emojis. If you want to hype the update check out #no-mans-hype🐝

[uncut harness]

It wasn't spam, it was a spoiler in emoji form

It wasn't hype either

Someone asked why you shouldn't drink water, so I told a story in the lore in emojis

[toxic kestrel]

Where 👀

[chrome kiln]

I second

[uncut harness]

Nowhere, they were commenting on the fact I was using emojis

it was a joke

but the emojis got removed

[toxic kestrel]

Dang…I am so sad now 😞

[sterile quiver]

HOW FID NO MAN SKY DUDE END UP IN RANDOM PLANET CRASHED

[thorny rover]

Pardon?

[uncut harness]

Considering this is spoilers, I am more than happy to ruin the game for you.
The universe of No Man's Sky is in an endless loop of being deleted and reset.
You woke up on a planet after you crashed your ship because the the universe restarted, that was your spawn point.

You would have learned this information if you had taken the time to play the game.

[sterile jay]

Welp, xbox game pass notifications leaked the update

its an expedition it seems

[elfin arrow]

so basically a small update

[sterile jay]

"Embark on an expedition exploring a strange 'Utopia' along with discovering strange secrets and a new starship"

Its something along those lines

[rancid ether]

oh

hmm

[molten karma]

If that's all it is that's a huge L considering how controversial Waypoint was and not having a update for 5 months.

[rancid ether]

interesting

[sterile jay]

I clicked on the noti and it disappeared before i could share it

[molten karma]

I thought they said in Leviathan it wouldn't be expeditions replacing updates anymore considering the backlash with that?

[rancid ether]

uh, thats actually pretty normal.
pretty sure first update of the year last year was also an expedition

[molten karma]

No it was Sentinel

[uncut harness]

Patch Notes are always massively more interesting than the update itself.
Might only be an expedition but there'll be some nice updates hidden inside.

[molten karma]

I hope its a bit more tbh. I think I'll be slightly burnt out if its expedition only.

[elfin arrow]

well do you guys think hello games would finally be done putting out big updates anytime because they would want to move on from the game? Like keep putting out small updates and work on a new game

[rancid ether]

oh right, they announced an expedition at the same time as Sentinel last year, thats what im thining of

[molten karma]

Waypoint already killed my hype for the game a bit and I haven't been playing it as much.

[uncut harness]

They already said they're doing that.

[rancid ether]

snowflake = fanbase meltdown theory nearly complete

[elfin arrow]

oh can you point it out for me? Kinda out of the loop

[molten karma]

If this is a Leviathan situation I think I'll dip until something more significant happens or after 4 or 5 content updates.

[elfin arrow]

and moreover, starfield will probably make the major playerbase migrate if it's any good

[molten karma]

We don't know but I really hope not... That will for sure kill the community a bit considering how much Waypoint already did tbh. I don't want to complain to much because HG have done a lot since launch but it'd just be very eh if two updates in a row were this dry,

[vestal barn]

Hello there
I don't think Sean go crazy active on Twitter unless something op coming
He only done that last year and was in Endurance update
. Update should drop any seconds now bc nms want be first to announce today before VR2 exclusive video comes out

[elfin arrow]

so basically you are hopeful for a big update or no?

[sterile jay]

I have the feeling that it may release alongside a full update.

[vestal barn]

Yeah I believe it's big one
Sean was shocked by amount of ppl was sad for waypoint changes
I believe he want make us happy

[molten karma]

That's what I'm saying it'd be a massive L if it was. I'm gonna have some hope but my expectations are super low now and I'm disappointed lol.

[rancid ether]

they dont speak for the whole community

[snow stream]

We won’t know until it’s here
It could be anything
It could be an expedition, it could be the perfect update

[rancid ether]

Leviathan was an awesome exp, my second fav after 3

It's an indie dev team. Why do people consistently fall into the trap of assuming every update will be groundbreaking

we got a snowflake

people were expecting a proc gen overhaul

thats not even an exaggeration, read the reddit posts

[molten karma]

I think you're not understanding... People weren't upset because it was a expedition people were upset it was hyped like a normal content update would be.

[rancid ether]

that was their own doing

the worm emoji was also just an expedition

its not an excuse

[molten karma]

They never did that with any other expedition it usually they always launched with content of some sort.

[rancid ether]

i just gave an example

worm emoji was Emergence expedition

that was it

[grizzled apex]

Got a screenshot?

[sterile jay]

Nope, clicked on it expecting to be able to see it in the notifications of the game pass app, but it wasnt there.

[molten karma]

I think the only reason people weren't upset about Emergence was because it came out like a month after Frontiers which was the big summer update while Leviathan came out a months after Outlaws and was a lot closer to the summer update.

I think its more so the timing of the expeditions tbh.

[snow stream]

People end up upset with every update for one reason or another. Why did they add this and not that, this game is turning into a base building simulator, why isn’t it the proc gen update

Speculation is fun, treating the emoji like a short little puzzle trying to figure out what it means, but it’s still just speculation

[elfin arrow]

ice planet expedition?

[sterile jay]

I remember the notification saying something about ice, though unsure, can't remember quite well.

[rancid ether]

just fyi, hoaxes tend to get muted. i'd recommend getting the receipts

[grizzled apex]

More hospitable ice worlds maybe?

[digital sentinel]

yeah

[elfin arrow]

i mean we can verify it with someone else having xbox game pass

[rancid ether]

Red's typing and has gamepass (i think lol). i'll wait for her to confirm

[vestal barn]

😂 Bring it on Red

[elfin arrow]

or @sterile jay is just Sean who is trying to manage our expectations and then release a big update 😳

[rancid ether]

im going back to #no-mans-hype🐝 for now 👋

[sterile jay]

I wouldn't lie about this type of stuff, because that is just pointless to do so.

[mental socket]

Leak!?

👀

[elfin arrow]

we are waiting for red to complete typing

[tame grotto]

Game Updates: Clarification

For the record, speculation on updates -- as long as it's not "leaked" content, lore, or spoilers from the update itself, including datamined content -- is more than welcome in #no-mans-sky.

Review our pinned rules. No memes. No hoaxes / fake "leaked" posts allowed. Provide the source of any leaked information to avoid moderation action.

Once an update starts rolling out to some platforms, we ask members to discuss any confirmed changes in this channel for a few hours or until patch notes are publushed, while other platforms await the update.

[mental socket]

:c

[uncut harness]

👌

[tame grotto]

[sterile jay]

I'm busy looking for the notification history but I can't find it

[elfin arrow]

or PC xbox app?

[molten karma]

Maybe they pulled it last minute? I mean same thing happened with Origins

[sterile jay]

On mobile Game Pass app

[molten karma]

That's why it could possibly be more still 😉

[tame grotto]

I see no notifications from GamePass.

I'm highly skeptical about the supposed leak.

I do encourage folks to post the source of the information via links and/or screenshots.

[tame grotto]

I'm seeing no information from Game Pass, via notifications or anything in their Game Pass app.

Thank you for helping clarify things, Roarin

[elfin arrow]

Let's wait and watch

[tame grotto]

Who reported it?

[molten karma]

I feel like you're right especially since its only 1AM in the US and even earlier in some other countries. So I feel we should've seen some form of screenshot

@sterile jay

[tame grotto]

Does anyone have a link on source of the supposed leak?

[molten karma]

He's the one that reported it

[elfin arrow]

#no-mans-hype🐝 message

[sterile jay]

I reported it

[tame grotto]

I'm not seeing any Xbox Game Pass notification. Do you have an actual screenshot of this information?

[sterile jay]

I didnt screenshot it because I thought that itd show in the notis for the gamepass app.

[tame grotto]

The history of notifications shows in the Game Pass app though. Even after they're read.

[sterile jay]

I know, that's what confuses me

[molten karma]

To give Scrap the benefit of the doubt something similar happened with Origins didn't it?

🤔 🤔 🤔

This wait is gonna be tense hopefully we get some more teases to keep the hype going because that info kind of killed mine a bit despite it possibly being false. 😅

That's exactly my case. Honestly its just with this specific update no matter how you feel about 4.0 there is no doubt it hurt the community and with a 5 month long wait for a update and just for it to be a expedition would be a bad move tbh. Especially with a emoji like a snowflake which is something incredibly unique.

Don't get me wrong I'm not on the crazy hype where I think its going to be something huge like a procgen overhaul or anything but I just feel it has to be something with more substance.

[elfin arrow]

I don't understand it, they are definitely putting effort in the MacOS and PSVR2 port and so saying '5 months wait' is kinda pointless imo. Hello Games is a small team and even porting games is v v v hard to do

[tame grotto]

My level of skepticism is 99.9%

[molten karma]

I mean its not unreasonable since 4.0 broke a lot of things especially with multiplayer... 5 months and capes still don't show up properly and getting disconnected from the anomaly randomly is game breaking experiences and HG stopped doing fixes after a few weeks..

[tame grotto]

There is no notification in any of my Game Pass apps about No Man's Sky (mobile or PC). I see a notification about another game, which once read, it does show in the notifications' history.

[molten karma]

There is still hope. 🥲

[rancid ether]

4.0 didn't break capes in multiplayer

they were broken since day 1

[molten karma]

I remember seeing them prior to 4.0 though?

[rancid ether]

some people could see them but the vast majority could not

[tame grotto]

Capes have never worked in multiplayer. There is a way that someone found how to glitch them to show (which was discussed in #nms-modding but way after capes were released)

[molten karma]

🤔

I must be misremembering shiz

[rancid ether]

it's easy to misattribute flaws to an update you didn't personally enjoy

[molten karma]

That's true but thing is I actually didn't mind 4.0 I loved a lot of the changes to visuals and inventory aside from the scrolling.

[rancid ether]

could have fooled me 🤷‍♂️

sorry, but the general take i got was that you didnt enjoy 4.0
sorry if i misunderstood

[molten karma]

Just the negativity surrounding it not so much the features themselves.

The damaged community really destroyed my hype since a lot of content creators left or slowed down to.

[rancid ether]

there's negativity every update. 4.0 wasn't an exception, don't worry

Frontiers was also quite polarizing

and Origins was like 2 weeks of pure salt

[tame grotto]

Btw, this is the latest Game Pass notification (about another game) that I see in my app for the record. No mention of No Man's Sky. I've actually never seen notifications about No Man's Sky via Game Pass since I've played the game on Xbox. I've just received the updates for download as with most games. Also, when you click those notifs, they take you to the game. And the notification doesn't get auto-deleted. It stays in the notification history.

[molten karma]

I don't really remember the disappointment with Origins. However I do remember it with Frontiers. I just think Waypoint had a big fall off of the old school players since the inventory changes for min maxing was kind of nerfered.

[rancid ether]

And Frontiers was actually REALLY hyped

teaser came out like a month and half prior to the update iirc

[tame grotto]

I do think 4.0 has had the biggest blowback I've been a witness of since I've been playing the game. No clue about other releases before Origins though.

[rancid ether]

Beyond was pretty bad as well

er bad reaction i mean

people are always expecting a lot more

it was buggy tho, thats true lol

[molten karma]

Beyond was so mid but I was still super excited just because of VR

I stopped playing until Synthesis I think.

That was L

[elfin arrow]

idk why but hello games kinda fails to properly have depth in each mechanism they implement. Settlements are flat, the threats don't affect the players. The combat is flat and so is animal riding. Nothing has weight. I think that is exactly why people are always negative about different different updates

[rancid ether]

imo, 4.0 just felt like a band aid rip that needed to happen

[molten karma]

Maybe bigger yearly updates are better than frequent updates every 2 months because at least there'll be less complaining and it'll only happen majorly once a year like Atlas Rises days. 😅

[rancid ether]

if everything is like that and continues to be like that, why do they expect anything beyond that?

[elfin arrow]

Because ig fans like to be hopeful? idk

[rancid ether]

fans get super crazy expectations.
it's still an indie dev team and the only thing they give us an emoji

molehill -> fucking huge ass mountain

every time

[molten karma]

Didn't the emoji thing started with Living Ships and eggs? Aside from like two emojis they all have been linked to content updates.

[rancid ether]

yeah, living ship was first iirc

but that got datamined early iirc

same with exomech

[molten karma]

Yeah and I know new water systems have been datamined too but haven't made it in yet?

[waxen garnet]

Exactly.
People are more hyped about overhauls to existing systems because they know if HG wanders again in a new direction, it might take years before they come back to it and flesh it out.

[molten karma]

I much prefer depth and overhauls to existing systems over new features. Ever since Beyond new new features haven't excited me as much. I think NMS need more expansion on what it already has.

[waxen garnet]

Yes. HG need to finish what they start.

[zenith trench]

Leviathan.

[vestal barn]

Same 😂. I didn't understand the anger
But then they put supercharged slots
Which super cool

I don't want to mention anything but I literally got tons of insults just saying update is awesome 😂.
Game is improving day by day ❤️

[molten karma]

Game is improving bi-monthly by bi-monthly. 😉

I still argue that my favorite visual style for the game though is Atlas Rises and Foundations.

I think Atlas Rises is where I clocked in at least 60% of my playtime.

I'm thinking that too. Thank the Atlas. 😮‍💨

Yeah especially with how vocal reddit and twitter are and the brownie points that come with it. 😛

Yeah he tried to defend himself for a bit to avoid the ban hammer but he disappeared into the abyss.

Alright talk to you then hopefully there is more to talk about then. 🙂

[sterile jay]

I'm still here

I've just been busy

I've said everything I can about the leak, and in all honesty, I can't blame you for thinking that it's fake.

[uncut harness]

You said you it was a notification that disappeared before you could share it, and you're the only one on the internet to assume it was NMS when there was a notification of atomic heart that contains similar text to what you described. So you've said almost nothing and have no evidence to suggest it actually leaked anything 🤷‍♂️

[sterile jay]

It only disappeared when I tapped it, and when I did tap it, it took me to No Mans Sky on the app.

I am unsure as of why it did not appear on the actual tab for notifications on the app itself.

[molten karma]

Could it have been a glitch with the gamepass app?

Like did the text mention NMS specifically?

[uncut harness]

But literally nobody else saw that notification

[sterile jay]

It didn't mention No mans Sky specifically, but why would it mention a starship?

Although, it could very much be a glitch.

[sterile jay]

Im not the only one that got the notification

Someone else got it. Most recent reddit feed post

I got that exact same notification.

[molten karma]

Yikes if true

[sterile jay]

That exactly.

[molten karma]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/118uem8/new_expedition_and_starship_incoming_according_to/

Sorry scrap please forgive me

[uncut harness]

Interesting that person hasn't posted on anything for months till 8 minutes ago, but hopefully that's not all

[molten karma]

You weren't delusional after all ❤️

[sterile jay]

Aye, it's fine, I perfectly understand why you guys were doubting. if somebody else did it, and they were the only one, id doubt as well.

[snow stream]

The way that whole thing is worded feels… off
Like it wasn’t finished
“Including all new starship” think you’re missing an ‘an’ there pal

[uncut harness]

Yeah a bit off grammatically

[molten karma]

I just hope its a content update with it because if not a expedition only is a huge L

I'm hoping its wrong.

[snow stream]

Not trying to imply it’s outright fake or anything but it almost feels like a weird placeholder

[sterile jay]

The thing is, is that those notifications are for events. The expeditions are considered as events. It could come alongside a proper update.

[snow stream]

So we’re ultimately still where we started, “lol who knows what’s coming”

[uncut harness]

I'm fine implying things are fake till the update actually comes out. Like "oh no I was wrong"

[mint hollow]

Been a while without an update for it to only be an expedition hopefully it's content and expedition

[uncut harness]

Content + expedition would be ideal

[snow stream]

Until Sean himself breaks through my window and whispers secrets to me I’ll just assume nothing is real until it is real

[mint hollow]

Plus first update of the year gotta be something good right?

Hopefully

[snow stream]

One would hope so

[sterile jay]

Lets hope so.

[icy citrus]

Buncha newbies in here

[uncut harness]

I haven't played in months, would be nice to have a reason, since expeditions don't do it for me

[icy citrus]

They have literally never done just an expedition, with the exception of re-runs. And even those brought us updates and patches

[mint hollow]

who

[molten karma]

I really hope so if not my disappointment will be pretty huge

[molten karma]

Leviathan and Emergence were expeditions only.

[icy citrus]

They weren't, go look at the patch notes

[sour fossil]

Expeditions also provide some new content

[sterile jay]

Now that I think about it, Gleam is right. No updates were just expeditions. There are bug fixes and sometimes small things added.

[sour fossil]

Even if it's just some lore or unique tech

[mint hollow]

Is it likely the update is today?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[vestal barn]

Yep 😂
Expeditions always comes with update as bouns
But never was main content is only expedition

[icy citrus]

They told us it would be today, months ago

[uncut harness]

Jumping in to be right on a technicality classic

[icy citrus]

Day and date with PsVR2

[mint hollow]

In Gleam we trust

[icy citrus]

This happens every update lol

[vestal barn]

Yep they announced today VR2 will show all exclusive games. Nms one of them
I am expecting update drop before VR2 drop

[mint hollow]

Gleam is secretly a Hello games dev

[molten karma]

I don't really consider bug fixes content though that is just a necessity that should be expected tbh. I mean technically they included some small amount of content but nothing significant to the game its just fluff.

[icy citrus]

3 or 4 hours is my guess

[mint hollow]

if i go to sleep now i will potentially wake up to a new update

Ok gn

[sour fossil]

Some folks are dying to get just that fluff

Like exp 3 tech for starships or Singularity Engine

[molten karma]

I personally don't think its a good move. It needs to be content with substance considering how much Waypoint split the community tbh.

[icy citrus]

Split for about a week

[warm raptor]

I’m new, so I don’t fully understand. Why did people not like waypoint

[icy citrus]

See?

[sour fossil]

I get ya, but I don't agree with statement that Leviathan and Emergence were just expeditions

[molten karma]

Mostly inventory changes for min maxing

Super charged slots kind of fixed it.

[vestal barn]

If there new ship
I guess time to scrap few of what I have 😂😂😂

[icy citrus]

Adding a whole new type of frigate isn't content

You didn't know?

[molten karma]

You cant even enter though?

Its more cosmetic then it is useful

[snow stream]

Never diss the rule of cool

[sour fossil]

Waypoint update introduced inventory rework, one of the aspects included removing of general inventory. That was used to install extra tech upgrades to get better stats. Since Waypoint we have only dedicated technology inventory for that, which results in lower amount of upgrades that can be installed. Some folks were mad that instead of being able to destroy starships in 12 nanoseconds they have to wait 20 nanoseconds now.

[icy citrus]

What do you want out of the 10 people working on this? New engine? A million new assets?

[snow stream]

Yes

[icy citrus]

Define what content in this case will mean

[molten karma]

No just more depth to the game in general like sentinel really. They don't really need to add a ton of new assets.

Bring back some of the generation from Foundation and Pathfinder.

I mean they literally admitted to nerfing the generation with NEXT.

[icy citrus]

I see

[molten karma]

Just put back what was in the game before.

Add more depth to current features.

[icy citrus]

You know what I find funny about this cycle?

[sterile jay]

Sometimes the best way forward is backward.

[warm raptor]

Ok, thank you.

[icy citrus]

Back in 1.01 people were bitching about how hard it was to get around on planets

Cycle forward and people want it back

[sour fossil]

People are gonna bitch about anything really

[molten karma]

The only people who bitched were the ones who thought Sean lied lmao

[snow stream]

There will never be winning

[sour fossil]

proceeds to bitch about Waypoint UI

[icy citrus]

No, that's not accurate

[snow stream]

The only winning move is not to play

[sour fossil]

The only winning move is not to set expectations, not to give in to opinion of loudest screamers

The move is to enjoy the new content we get for free

[snow stream]

That too

[icy citrus]

Personally I wouldn't have taken anything out, but no matter what they do people rage and people enjoy

[molten karma]

The only problem is free content is great but they nerfed what we had before exploration wise.

[icy citrus]

Did they? It had the exact same issue people point out for current - repeating assets

[sour fossil]

I hope that after reworking base building, ship combat, survival and difficulty elements

We are gonna get an exploration update now

[molten karma]

Terrain and colors were a lot better. I mean they literally said in a Origin video with IGN that they nerfed it and it was a important step to bring some of that back with Origin.

[icy citrus]

I have 1.0 on ps4

[molten karma]

It came out of Seans mouth.

[icy citrus]

Yes, and do you know what colors they meant?

[warm raptor]

To be honest. It’s an amazing game. If someone builds a base and you as an explorer stumbles upon it

[icy citrus]

The ground color

[uncut harness]

People will always complain about repetition, suggesting people should not complain about repetition because they complained about other things is a bit weird

[icy citrus]

I really don't want to go back to this

[molten karma]

Night and sunsets are mostly a limited color palette. Daytime colors are a little more varied.

I literally posted this in NMS Future this was Atlas Rises.

The thing is NMS is a simulation yes? Why cant they just have old planets be a part of the generation and call it a glitch in the system?

[uncut harness]

I like waypoint as an update though, it was what I thought they should start doing with a lot of existing features

Refactoring to improve the overall quality

[molten karma]

I'd say when people refer to older generation they mostly talk about Foundations, Pathfinder, and Atlas Rises however I know Atlas Rises had some complaints with terrain being toned down and in that Origin video its funny that Sean said the downgrades to generation started with Atlas Rises lol.

[uncut harness]

Expeditions are fun, but the timed aspect makes it stressful imo

[molten karma]

There should be a way to play old expeditions and community missions at any time they shouldn't be lost to time.

[icy citrus]

Nostalgia is a powerful blindfold

[uncut harness]

Yeah I'd like to be able to go through expeditions myself with friends like a run

[molten karma]

Its really not there is good thing about modern NMS. However stylization is subjective and to be fair that screenshot above is more so what the game was marketed as and it changed into something else.

[sour fossil]

Or they could reintroduce exp rewards as QS items

I mean what's the worst that can happen, people save edit them in anyway

[molten karma]

At least I'm not saying nuke the new stuff entirely they should be able to coexist with NMS lore.

[uncut harness]

Qs missions are not as fun as expeditions

I personally think NMS has plenty of features to make it enjoyable, I am hoping they're in a season of refactoring those features to really get all they can out of the idea

[molten karma]

I think saying blindfold nostalgia is a bait to start an argument and it's not productive at all. Why dismiss it just because of "nostalgia" it's literally just stylistic differences between the two. They can literally coexist and its facts generation was downgraded since Sean literally said it... It's not "nostalgia" really. Graphically new NMS is technically better but the stylization is way different.

[uncut harness]

Yeah, driving on planets being a complaint so they changed it to solve that doesn't make much sense either

They added back extreme mountains and those are a nightmare to navigate, but that's their charm

[snow stream]

for me, the biggest flaw with current terrain is a lack of verticality
not in the sense of "be tall and big" but in the sense of, there's no layering, there's no archways that span across chunks of land, no overhangs, its just... a flat landmass projected upwards with a basic heightmap
its not taking advantage of the fact its a 3d voxel terrain

[molten karma]

You can literally summon your ship anywhere you can just fly over them or how about adding some form of flying vehicle think of Cyberpunk not a spaceship so it cant leave atmosphere but it can literally be a flying/hovering roamer.

[snow stream]

which feels really... not good

[uncut harness]

Yeah introducing wild terrain generation as more rare planets makes sense, it is a "variety" thing but does give a reason to explore

And build bases

[snow stream]

i understand the want to make terrain more navigable, especially once player models were added and they had to consider animations of players moving up steep terrain, i get it
but i feel like they yanked things back waaay too much

[molten karma]

I think that's a lazy argument to just not do it even though the whole game is supposed to be about generation. There is work arounds but it just requires more work. I don't even care if they add new assets I just want what we had before NEXT to be in the game.

I mean mods somewhat accomplish this and it doesn't affect gameplay that bad.

[uncut harness]

I do like the work they did on derilect freighters, and settlements, I imagine they're sharing some tech there hopefully they go back and change some monuments to use that

They've done a lot to improve existing systems over the last few updates, I'm hoping for more of the same

Not really a fan of this void idea YouTubers have been pushing for so long, mainly because they're describing it like derilect freighters but a different coat of paint

[molten karma]

I rather have it be new stars that spawn in or something on the galactic map. I don't care for the way its described either because what if you like a planet and leave? Is it gone forever? Could you never build a base on it?

[sour fossil]

Cant blame YTbers when we had over a year of weekend events dedicated to Abyss / void

Only for it to be let go and collecting dust

[molten karma]

I think that is the biggest issue with HG tbh they need to finish and refine what they start.

[icy citrus]

This game isn't ever going to be finished, they will just stop updating at some point

[molten karma]

I hope they at least open up the engine and add official mod support for the community to take over.

[snow stream]

or make an ai sean that never stops updating the game

[uncut harness]

I mean there is a lot of lore that is just lore, I don't expect it all to become a feature

[molten karma]

Let console players get mods like they do for Fallout and Skyrim.

[icy citrus]

That isn't how it works on console though

[sour fossil]

Even HG has limited say in this matter

[icy citrus]

The Devs themselves are responsible for vetting and hosting

[sour fossil]

Sony does not allow 3rd party assets to be implemented

At least that's the case of Bethesda modding scene

[icy citrus]

If they could just say: Let console use mods, they would

I gotta doubt they have any interest in maintaining mods though, with the extra work and overhead involved

[sour fossil]

IMO they won't

One of the key factors of NMS is the out of box experience

Adding modding capabilities can ruin that

[molten karma]

Most mods don't use third party assets for HG though its mostly modifying scripts within the game.

[sour fossil]

Cause surprise suprise - people be dumb as fuck

[molten karma]

I know some do though

[uncut harness]

Nah, but PC modding support would be better, most console games don't have a good life after official support ends anyways

[sour fossil]

Hence why we PC folks got the warning screen when using mods

[molten karma]

I don't know I think a lot of the mods make NMS better.

[uncut harness]

PC players are better at keeping games alive

[molten karma]

Always has been this way.

I mean look at L4D2 and CS:GO

They allow mod support and have a strong community.

L4D2 outlived Back4Blood for this reason.

Community creation is more important then one thinks tbh.

Just saying if Halo Infinite had Forge at launch I doubt it'd be as dead as it is right now

There are plenty of examples to support community creation and mods.

I don't know I doubt every mod for Fallout and Skyrim are monitored by Bethesda either for consoles.

[icy citrus]

They are though, that's why you can't even get all the mods on console

There is a whole process and certification each of those mods goes through

And the dev foots that bill

[uncut harness]

Consoles have a life span, which is much shorter than pc

[icy citrus]

I'd argue that lol

You are replacing graphics cards every two years if you want to stay on ultra

Which these days, cost as much as a console

[uncut harness]

I have been playing ultra on games for 6 years with the same card

[molten karma]

Not even every two years lol

[icy citrus]

Go run cyberpunk on ultra everything with your 6 year old card and show us

[uncut harness]

But I meant for a single game, not games in general

[molten karma]

Cyberpunk is a unoptimized piece of shit of a game.

[uncut harness]

Everything you say is so hostile man

[icy citrus]

Asking for proof of a statement is hostile.

Okie dokie

[uncut harness]

I didn't make the statement you're accusing or assuming I'm making, I even clarified

[molten karma]

Of course a buggy mess of a game that is unoptimized wouldn't run well. It didn't even run well with top of the line hardware lol.

Ark to this day as well runs like crap.

[icy citrus]

Well consoles do about 10 years, most people aren't rocking the same gaming pc after 10 years

[molten karma]

DOOM Eternal a properly optimized game could run 300FPS with 5 year old hardware.

[icy citrus]

Maybe the case, and accessories

my last Pc got an overhaul after about 7

Needed better everything to keep up with new stuff

Of course, that does come with some very nice bonuses

Mods are one for sure

[uncut harness]

If the console can live 10 years, why can't the PC? Considering you likely could play games from that console on the PC, of neither change hardware they have the same lifespan

[icy citrus]

True

[uncut harness]

PC can always outlive a console

[molten karma]

Don't forget a PC can do more then a console you can literally make money on your PC by doing other things with it. Make videos, music, 3D model, code, 2D/3D Animation, texturing, Photoshop, etc.... This list could get long so top of the line hardware benefits both fields gaming and production so prices will always be more expensive.

[icy citrus]

That's true, not a factor for me, but a solid point

[uncut harness]

Well besides all that I mainly just meant a community can exist for a game on a PC longer than they can on consoles

[icy citrus]

Yeah for sure

I know people that still get together and play freaking Medal of Honor

[uncut harness]

And consoles have so many limitations, that I'd hope the devs would prioritize pcs

For modding support specifically

[molten karma]

That's a thing to consider. If a mod is made on hardware like a 4090 and it barely maintains 60FPS at 4K maxed consoles burn.

Possibly brick even.

[vestal barn]

Yep pc is the best with lifetime
I believe best Cpu rn with RTX 4090 would last 25 years golden time 😅

[molten karma]

I'm sure a 4090 will be running games max at minimum of 60FPS for at least 5 years.

DLSS might boost its life.

[uncut harness]

I just want scripting support for NMS so we can add our own features haha. Thought about getting into making a script extender but finding pointers and reading assembly is a challenge

And it'd be less complicated if HG just did it haha

[mild scarab]

Do you guys think that the leak shared by procedural traveller is true?

[molten karma]

We've discussed this earlier its 50/50 at this point

The grammar is questionable.

[icy citrus]

My bet is that whenever HG do decide to stop with NMS, they will open up the exe for the community to go ham

[uncut harness]

That'd be ideal

But who knows

[mild scarab]

God another expedition after months of waiting would be depressing

[icy citrus]

Aye

[uncut harness]

Maybe NMS 2

[icy citrus]

All speculation and hopes

Fun though

[molten karma]

I have a feeling HG new game could be a more realistic universe game with there procedural engine to compete with Star Citizen and Elite more closely.

[icy citrus]

There will be an expedition, they are going to keep those going - It won't be just that though imo

[uncut harness]

I can't imagine them actually making a NMS 2 though

[snow stream]

they wont

[mild scarab]

Yeah, i meant if it's literally just an expedition like with leviathan

[snow stream]

there's no reason to

[icy citrus]

They said they won't

[elfin arrow]

don't make NMS 2, we already have starfield

[molten karma]

I think it will be a open universe game with proc gen but it wont be NMS.

[icy citrus]

And that their secret project is something different

[uncut harness]

Good so maybe an open NMS is more likely

[vestal barn]

Don't worry they won't

[molten karma]

Whats more ambitious then a open universe?

Another open universe that's more realistic and sim like.

[mild scarab]

An open multiverse

[molten karma]

Maybe a more gritty experience.

[uncut harness]

I love HGs last campfire

Such a fun puzzle game

[snow stream]

Really the biggest hurdle for opening NMS would be moving the discovery servers to somewhere else
and even that is, likely, not a big problem, the main problem is getting someone to dedicate the hardware to it
otherwise, NMS will live forever, as a solo experience at least

[uncut harness]

Community servers would be great still

[snow stream]

oh absolutely

[uncut harness]

But snowflakes am I right?

❄️

[snow stream]

hopefully soon we have our answer

[mild scarab]

The update shall give us twitter as an in-game feature

[icy citrus]

Lmao

[snow stream]

im not sure i want to see NPC's thoughts posted at me

[molten karma]

I kind of want on foot pirate battles tbh. Repurpose settlements and have it be pirate outpost and have shootouts with NPCs on foot.

Make onfoot bounty hunts a thing to.

[mild scarab]

"This traveller guy sure seems gekphobic"

[uncut harness]

I remember seeing that they do have some AI tech for npcs that follow you, they use it for the videos

[snow stream]

oh yeah, i remember that

[mild scarab]

Becoming the mandalorian would be so sick

[uncut harness]

People who hate on geks just don't get that they've been genetically changed since they were terrible

[icy citrus]

Everybody's ancestors were shit in the game also

[uncut harness]

Yeah absolutely

[icy citrus]

All of em got up to some shady business

[uncut harness]

I'd like to see the people in red robes expanded on

[icy citrus]

I'd love more story

[uncut harness]

Like actual npcs

[icy citrus]

The archives and logs hint at so much, even another race

[snow stream]

i wanna finally know what the world of glass is

[uncut harness]

They have a lot of great lore

[snow stream]

like what does it actually look like

show me some weird funky shit

[icy citrus]

Maybe that's the "Utopia"

[snow stream]

stick me in a fractal nightmare scape

[uncut harness]

Oh you know, that actually makes sense

Utopia being the atlas's ideal place

[mild scarab]

This could very well be a weather update maybe

God that'd be nice

[elfin abyss]

or just an expedition

[icy citrus]

This is why I like the emojis, typically don't make sense till after

[snow stream]

whether the weather is new or not is something we'll all just have to weather together

[icy citrus]

So we get to speculate wildly

[uncut harness]

If it was an atlas expedition I'd be into that (just wish I could play it whenever I wanted)

[mild scarab]

Actual variety other than "boiling water storm" and "frozen water storm" and "toxic water storm"

[snow stream]

toxic spider storm

[icy citrus]

Toxic frozen water

[snow stream]

now we're talking

[uncut harness]

If they did an atlas expedition with red capes and hoods as rewards

Maybe you play as a believer

Crimson glass clothes

Maybe a weapon and ship that looks like red glass

[snow stream]

part of the excitement of NMS for me is not knowing whats coming next
sure, I have things I'd like to see added or improved, but i never would have thought of living ships, so seeing them surprise us with stuff is fun

[uncut harness]

Using expeditions to let you play in historical moments of NMS lore would be perect

[snow stream]

i enjoy the mystery

[molten karma]

I'd only want expeditions to allow lore coverage if you could replay it at anytime.

[uncut harness]

I agree

But they have mainly used them to add lore in general

[icy citrus]

I'm surprised it isn't a mode already, that lets you choose which you wanna run

[uncut harness]

There is always a bit of lore in each expedition

I think they probably just don't have enough of them to make it worth the feature yet, but we know since they can bring them all back, one day we're likely to have a playlist

[sour fossil]

Problem is, some of them require a server to keep track of progression

[uncut harness]

And who knows, maybe they're refining the creation process to make it easier

[sour fossil]

Remember, Normandy was locked till some stage behind encrypted milestones

Leviathan had community research for memory fragment classes

[uncut harness]

Is that true for the version people play during the holiday?

[sour fossil]

Having a dedicated server would be nice, but they would need to keep track of all that extra info

Hmm good oint, I haven't played reduxes myself

[uncut harness]

I think it makes sense for the initial release, but hopefully not for redux versions

I never have time during holidays

[icy citrus]

That's an easy fix, automate the number to rise at a specific rate

B on day 2, a on 4, s on 6 etc

[uncut harness]

We don't know, 50/50 but could be more

Will definitely include an expedition