nms-spoilers

[uncut harness]

(or if you die on a permadeath save)

[remote iron]

Is this ||Atlas||? At the beginning of the game.

[heady wyvern]

The Atlas is typically depicted as a red pulsating sphere, yes. You can see the same thing in the Atlas Interfaces, just on a larger scale.

Also, this is the designated spoiler chat. No need to tag anything.

[narrow sierra]

i have a question: what happens after The Purge is completed? is it just like an automatic "reset your progress" type thing?

[dull burrow]

Should I click reset simulation or Refuse the atlas or does it have no difference on the outcome

[dull burrow]

that is exactly where I am at and I am worried

[merry estuary]

Doesnt have much difference, none of the story decisions do

[dull burrow]

so the simulation is gonna reset either way? and does that means I lose everything or does my ship just get a little broken and I go to a new galaxy

[merry estuary]

Either way you dont just lose everything, but when resetting the simulation, youll be presented with a choice to go to one of four galaxies. Not sure what exactly happens when you refuse the atlas.

But youll also get the ability to travel galaxies, but I havent chosen that one yet, so I dont know exactly. And yes, prepare for stuff breaking

[dull burrow]

what is the difference between all of the galaxies

like lush, harsh, empty, and normal

[merry estuary]

E.g. lush galaxies will have more paradise planets

Im not sure about those specifics, you can ask in #nms-questions, but dont worry, youll be able to visit all 256 galaxies :3

[sacred solar]

i always refuse the atlas and then have to go to the core

[merry estuary]

Ah thats what happens?

[sacred solar]

yeah

[merry estuary]

Good to know

[dull burrow]

yeah I just looked it up, if I had refused I would then have to take the time to go to the core

[sacred solar]

itll say like "keep exploring the galaxy" or something similar for the mission at the end

[merry estuary]

It always does :3

[sacred solar]

well, you def have to go to the core, ive been to hilbert more than once

[merry estuary]

I havent yet. Whats hilbert like?

[narrow sierra]

ohhh ok so doing The Purge by resetting the simulation just gives you a chance to go to a new galaxy? good to know, since i legit thought the game would be over once i would get there because of how the game has been building up to that part so far... the whole "say goodbye to your friends" part is somewhat misleading in that regard i guess.

[merry estuary]

There is no game over in NMS, unless you are playing Permadeath and Atlas takes its hand off you.
And yes, resetting means you get the choice of going to one of the next four galaxies

But you will be able to go to any galaxy you wish later on

[eternal radish]

I love how Vy'Keen are warriors with occassional immature homour lol

[scenic stream]

well you deal with weapons and violence all day, you better have a sense of humour

[eternal radish]

I just thought of how Vy'Keen are basically space red necks (the one in the picture literally being a redneck because they're red, duh) because of their obsessions with guns and big cars/exocrafts.

[scenic stream]

muh colossus

[eternal radish]

Muh multi-tool

[scenic stream]

They appear to feel sorry for my entire being.

[eternal radish]

A bit condescending

But yeah. What I said is true.
Vy'Keen and rednecks have a lot in common haha

[scenic stream]

hard to argue with that

even bewildered, intelligence-unencumbered faces at times

[heady wyvern]

"Intelligence unencumbered..." I'm stealing that.

[scenic stream]

knock yourself out

[solar cairn]

Next 4* types of galaxies. They are not exactly linear depending on what you choose. For example, the green lush one would send you to Eissentam which is Galaxy 10 in the list

[dark hill]

hey, isnt redneck like a slur or something?

not american, genuinely asking

it feels like it ticks all the boxes for being one

[abstract owl]

Gray area

[eternal radish]

Is it?

[dark hill]

its definitely derogative

id try not to use it, never know whom you might upset

[scenic stream]

probably rednecks

[eternal radish]

Ok I never knew this before. Thank you for letting me know.
I apologise.

[scenic stream]

and yeah it by default implies a white uneducated southener thats considered to be prejudiced so its definitely derogatory

though you cant argue with the fact that its almost the perfect word to describe the vykeen lmao

[dark hill]

i believe the term comes from the fact that the south used to be (dunno if it still is) extremely big on farming, and tending outside in the sun all day would burn your skin- giving you an actual red neck

again, not american, so dont apologise to me or anythin

but i have heard people be upset with that word before

anyway /convo, derailed hard the topic

[scenic stream]

anyway... 16 / 16 / 16

[dark hill]

#off-topic-bond-james-bond if anyone wants to debate it or whatever

[dark hill]

speaking of

do we know whats up with 19 ?

[scenic stream]

Isdoraijung?

[dark hill]

i know its somehow related to the abyssal mother and the leviathans

[dark hill]

talking about the 19th minute, that doesnt ring a bell tho

i will say i havent done the boundary failures and voice of the shells yet

so dunno if you get more info there

[scenic stream]

oh nah, i havent done those either yet. im still relatively new to the game in general

[dark hill]

but here and there 19 keeps appearing

most importantly in a certain korvax archive

[scenic stream]

i got main story paths done, working on finishing the extreme survival & zoology milestones so i can get the platinum

i know about the boundary failures but havent actively sought them out yet

[dark hill]

and! i will say that i saw an extremely old post from like when the game just released mentioning 19/19

so it should have been in the game for a while

[dark hill]

got all the achieves done, but i think im only missing these two parts of the lore

got the monoliths and plaques

[scenic stream]

the boundary failures have something to do with the entity that is your exosuit, telamon, right?

[dark hill]

no clue

plan on reading though

for the submerged ruins there's a story about a guy finding a piece of glass

and goes p insane

didnt finish it

[scenic stream]

i was too curious to find out why laylaps kept calling me telamon-not-telamon so i googled it, turns out he was initially speaking to your exosuit but when you asked him why you call him that, he starts calling you telamon-not-telamon meaning hes addressing you and not the entity within your exosuit

[dark hill]

oh cool

wondered that too but guessed id find out eventually

[scenic stream]

yeah once it took me to the boundary failure wiki page i realized its probably deeper than that and left it alone

so that i dont just spoil it all

[dark hill]

...hey you gonna go on nms anytime soon?

maybe we can hunt em together

they're a real pain in the ass to do

since they're rare and you need like 30 something

[scenic stream]

i just got Everlasting after idling in a cave all night

thing is i dont have PS+ haha

im planning to get NMS for my laptop cause i tested it and it runs quite well

i havent gotten ps+ since i quit doing pvp in DS3 and really dont feel like shelling out extra money just for NMS mp

[eternal radish]

How would Laylaps react when you wouldn't wear your exosuit?

[scenic stream]

probably mechanically laugh as when i first assembled him into a functioning conversationalist, i was on an extremely hot planet

so i'd burst into flames

[eternal radish]

I mean you're in your base or something together with Laylaps and you don't wear your suit. Would they recognise you?

[scenic stream]

okay so technically you need the exosuit to activate laylaps so if you took it off you couldnt activate him. and if he was already activated, he follows you around like a ball on a chain so he'd see you take it off

[eternal radish]

Would they follow you or the exosuit?

[scenic stream]

guess that comes down just how smart he is. his repeating dialogue after all his missions is something like "we're gonna have so much fun together telamon-not-telamon" so im guessing he'd prioritize you over the exosuit

[eternal radish]

Laylaps says "I'm having so much fun, Telamon-Not-Telamon".

[scenic stream]

point stands. what would he have more fun with? an exosuit thats laying on the ground in the same place

or following around the naked one

[eternal radish]

Would be interesting. I think Laylaps might be able to learn so by taking off your exosuit you could teach them you are the one wearing/controlling it. The exosuit doesn't do anything without it's wearer.

[scenic stream]

laylaps might be able to learn

well i would hope so, id hate to think its peaked

[eternal radish]

I hope to see some continuation with Laylaps. I also hope we can upgrade them in the future. That some of the scraps Sentinels drop (such as weapon upgrades) can be used to upgrade Laylaps and that you can give them stronger weapons.

Such as a plasma cannon

You can upgrade the Minotaur. Same should be the case with Laylaps.

[scenic stream]

yeah same i was thrilled initially but when i realized hes just something that follows you around and is virtually useless

detrimental even, more often than not i mistake it for an aggressive sentinel when im fighting them

and i wonder why tf its not dying

[eternal radish]

Laylaps should be able to distract Sentinels.

[scenic stream]

i was so skeptical at first especially when it expressed that it wants its own name

felt like this AI has become too sentient and will try to kill me

[merry estuary]

Its just a puny little drone

[icy citrus]

That's immortal

[tough sigil]

rude

[scenic stream]

@tough sigil sorry for all the times i accidentally tried to obliterate you with my blaze javelin

[tough sigil]

i forgive you

[scenic stream]

[merry estuary]

no u

[dusky hull]

when in the story do u meet laylaps?

[analog breach]

You get laylaps by doing side quest you trigger in your settlement

[dark hill]

i personally believe that laylaps should do 2 things:

-dps of a normal sentinel. fairly weak, but still something. you're not supposed to rely on it, so maybe its dps can scale with difficulty too?

if thats too hard just give it the highest across all difficulties. if you want a challenge you can turn it up or just put out the flare

-scan random objects. its already doing this, but its scan should count as a player scan. to differentiate them the pop up could be tinted blue

the scanning should be semi-regularly, but rare enough that you should still do it yourself. like a 1 minute timer maybe?

perhaps there could be an entire update around "weaponizing companions" !

add another tab to the inventary panel labeled companions where you could choose either your animal pet (with weapons that can be modified) or a robotic companion like sentinels

but thats #nms-the-future talk

[remote iron]

How satisfying!

To me it seems this Achievement is a reference to The First, who defied Atlas.

[cedar iron]

So, I've been wondering, Is NMS a multiple ending type of game? Or is there one fixed ending? Because there's multiple main quest paths and I've been conflicted on which one to follow

What with artemis, the atlas path, the black holes, all that stuff

[slow hatch]

There is no ending. Once you finish the storylines, it just keeps going forever.

[cedar iron]

Well yeah, sorry, heard about that, but I meant is there like one main storyline?

Or a "multiple things going on simultaniousley kinda thing"

[slow hatch]

The multiple things. Think of the storylines as the tutorial.

[cedar iron]

o h

[slow hatch]

By the time you finish the storylines, you'll have a good chunk of the blueprints, glyphs, and knowledge of how to do the basic stuff.

[kindred schooner]

When and how do I get the 16 glyphs from the main story

[dark hill]

by uh

doing the story

towards the very end of the artemis storyline @kindred schooner

[torn token]

hmm, playing through the main story again actually...

The hell is Apollo saying here? 👀

[scenic stream]

[clears throat] Ulv hol neus xannos, kunu. Ulv zoav Ulv hol kuhilu zoav.

[heady wyvern]

Something in Atlas-language.

Could probably find an online resource for it.

[zinc bluff]

He called you a Kunu! You gonna take that?

[thorny rover]

Honestly I wouldn't let that slide

[autumn spear]

My Atlas, underwater quest is really grim

[uncut harness]

It involves the ocean, very scary already

[torn token]

yeah, checked online, either it's completely untranslated for some reason, or it's not Atlas 👀

[eternal radish]

Never had this happen in my playthroughs. Is this the language travellers speak? I doubt that English as a language exists in the NMS universe and that we just play the game in English (or any other language) so we can understand it.

[eternal radish]

Has the main story been updated?

[torn token]

dont think so?

also said line's definitely been ingame for several years

one post from Jun 10 2021 at least mentions it word for word

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/nwt2vt/what_is_apollo_saying/

[eternal radish]

I have never seen it myself

NEVER. And I can dream the storyline.

Speak of the devil…

[eternal radish]

Btw I really wonder what Apollo looked like before he became a mechanical being.

And what let to him to get most of his body replaced by mechanical parts.

Kinda like Robocop.

[scenic stream]

a young George Raft

[eternal radish]

I should create concept art of young Apollo.

[scenic stream]

i bet his current appearance is what he used to imagine as his halloween costume when he was just a rug rat

[eternal radish]

I imagine the triangle thingie that's now his head used to be his helmet.

[scenic stream]

dude had to balance a candle on the bridge of his nose to achieve the pulsating glow effect

probably the first thing that led to him needing a mechanical replacement

[dark hill]

i've seen it both times i've played through the storyline. it's when he's going through the portal, and is initially lost. game says something about a pulsating red behind his core. its heavily implied that the atlas showed itself to him and had been burrowing inside his psyche. he does eventually manage to escape, though.

i have however went and tried to translate it myself, and nothing

it should be Atla... but its not

at least not what we're used to

i did search all the tables that were publicly available, and i even tried on other languages in case apollo was secretly a gek or something

nope. nothin.

the only thing i could think of is datamining the text itself and checking if its english spoken in those words (aka the same as we just typing those letters) or it going through a language parser

it could be some of the unimplemented words or something

[eternal radish]

I probably never choose this option then. I heard you can choose give Apollo the glyphs or not.

There are multiple options but I haven't tried them all.

[dark hill]

or could be a fourth language... dunno

[dark hill]

yep

you give them the glyphs

they portal to you

[eternal radish]

But I did that

But I never got that weird Atlas dialogue thingie

[dark hill]

maybe you're just misremembering

since there was a lot of stuff going on at the same time

[eternal radish]

I swear. I have a good memory

[dark hill]

🤷‍♀️

not saying you're lying

[eternal radish]

I did multiple playthroughs

This just blows my mind

In my case Apollo never got lost when stepping through the portal. Just met the Atlas and couldn't handle it and we contacted eachother at a holoterminus and that we compared our locations and that we were supposed to be at the exact same location except we weren't. That was it for me.

[uncut harness]

Should I try and revive artemis

[zinc bluff]

No real consequences either way. Just do whatever you feel is right.

[uncut harness]

I didn't want to but It seems I can't progress when I say refuse

[sullen valley]

Now I don’t gotta cover my chat

[uncut harness]

I Wonder when the Atlas finally dies and we will be transfered to his replacement

[sullen valley]

Okay but like forcing Artemis to live seems wrong

[unborn bough]

@sullen valley we don't have to use spoiler tags here

😄

[uncut harness]

And boom NMS2

[sullen valley]

But her death was so sad to me

[unborn bough]

I have let her rest in peace.

[sullen valley]

You spent all this time trying to save her and she’s just dead 😭

[unborn bough]

Why do we call Artemis "her" is beyond me but whatever.

I couldn't let that soul be trapped in a simulation inside a simulation for eternity.

[sullen valley]

Female name and voice but you’re right I’m just associating gender

[unborn bough]

"voice"?

[sullen valley]

Idk what it actually is

[sullen valley]

Looks idk looks feminine to me

[unborn bough]

Alright.

Fair.

It looks alien to me so I call it it

Just like any other alien animal.

😄

[sullen valley]

I didn’t let it die

I kept it alive

[slow hatch]

"Voice", meaning phrasing of text.

[unborn bough]

Oh

Well

I can phrase text like this... UwU

[sullen valley]

Also looks like it has space buns

[unborn bough]

LOL!

That is true

[sullen valley]

There are feminine descriptions for words in other languages!

[unborn bough]

but anyway, I did let her die

[slow hatch]

I kept them alive.

To each their own.

[unborn bough]

Rest in peace Artemis. Maybe another traveler will repeat the same process again, and then another, and another over and over again.

[sullen valley]

I also kept it alive

Cause I felt bad and I also liked it

[unborn bough]

Poor soul is dead and trapped inside a simulation, why give them another jail?

At least let them be free of the loop for once.

In your instance of the simulation Artemis is dead after you've let them die.

But you know they're still trapped in that machine if you don't allow them to pass on.

[sullen valley]

I want my Living Ship so bad 😭

[unborn bough]

Resetting the simulation in your instance won't bring Artemis back.

[sullen valley]

Now I’m on the Apollo mission

[unborn bough]

Go for it.

[sullen valley]

Cool how they’re all named after Satellites

[river quest]

quick question what was your guys final choice in the story

[unborn bough]

I purged the system like a good Korvax scientist.

[slow hatch]

Honestly, when I made the choice I knew almost nothing about the game, including whether you'd get a good or bad ending depending on your choice, or that the game goes on afterwords.

[river quest]

same

[uncut harness]

WAIT NANITES ARE ALIVE

[cedar iron]

wait what

Oh I guess it kinda makes sense

[exotic iron]

i think nanites are korvax blood iirc

[cedar iron]

...

So

Theoretically

If I were to uhh

"Extract" The blood of a Korvax

[uncut harness]

Commit korvax genocide

Oh

[cedar iron]

Yeah

We need them nanites

[uncut harness]

^^^

[slow hatch]

Ask a Gek how that turns out.

[exotic iron]

well

just dont let them bloodlet on ur eggs

then ur rich

[sullen valley]

Crazy that a bunch of short lizards wrecked havoc on everyone

[eternal radish]

Yeah. Try talking to them.

They might talk back.

[eternal radish]

But what if you're a mammal?

I kinda feel wonder what would happen if you'd get. Korvax blood injected into you.

[analog breach]

Nanomachines son

[naive swan]

O

[opal cradle]

Gek lore goes so hard honestly

[exotic iron]

it has drug like effects

makes you forget stuff

the mechanic guy does it

[scenic stream]

"oh god these nanites hit different"

[uncut harness]

Dear God what happened to Artemis?!

[balmy robin]

what happens if you dont birth a star in atlas path? seems like you dont get the star seed, and so you miss out on some benifits. any beinifts of not birthing the star, or nah?

[proud root]

my xbox is the atlas

[solar cairn]

Same rules apply, just a different method

[solar cairn]

This is probably why robotic fauna are ONLY found in uncharted systems

[eternal radish]

👀

I think it's better that we don't get into detail about that lmao 😅

[solar cairn]

Probably for the best

Otherwise some more.... Creative NMS fans might get ideas

[uncut harness]

Guys what should I do whats most beneficial seeking the final interference

Completing the atlas path

Or explore the galaxy

This is for the purge mission btw

[prime inlet]

this is just basically going to change your active quest

if seek final interface, you should consider to begin preparing your plan for your gear for a possible source of damage (that will damage any installed tech/module on your active gear, except ime life support/hazard protection)

[uncut harness]

I see so will they all have the same result

[prime inlet]

you don't get locked out of completing either quest, no

[uncut harness]

Ah OK so I can choose any now and Still complete the otherd

OK cool

[prime inlet]

yes absolutely

now

would be a good time to finish the atlas path (if you've already accumulated at least 50 journey milestones) - but even you pick seek final interface now, you can still progress and complete the atlas path later

[uncut harness]

Ah OK I just chose 5he atlas path thanks

[uncut harness]

Oh I have 49 milestones

[prime inlet]

almost there

one more

[uncut harness]

Should I do it or it doesn't matter

?

[prime inlet]

do what, progress the atlas path?

[uncut harness]

The last milestone

[prime inlet]

i would recommend it yeah - isn't your other primary mission now The Purge?

[uncut harness]

Yes

[prime inlet]

oh, 50 isn't the last, last requires 55 journey milestones

[prime inlet]

warps you do now to progress and complete the atlas path - remember, you will need 1 heart of the sun when you go to the 11th station - will also count for the purge, which requires 16 warps to any system in order to progress

[uncut harness]

why does nada keep telling me to take my time when i try to decide artemis's fate?

oh i have to go to the simulation terminal thing

[solar cairn]

Because it's your moral decision!

[wind panther]

This from the overseer questline I think:
<Property name="Value" value="<STORY_HIGH>-{{ Did you enjoy your adventure, friend? Your expedition to find our orb? I have waited for you faithfully. }}-<> There was something about the way the Gek spoke that, for all their kind words, suggested a resentment saved only for the deepest of enemies. But they would not have come to work here if we were enemies. Of course not. We were friends. <STORY_HIGH>-{{ As ever, I am so grateful for your assistance. Friend. }}-<> Since the Overseer arrived, I had had a recurring dream, a nightmare that felt like a memory. Flesh merged with metal; a world of glass that blinked. A planet with green skies and an obsidian moon, a dream where I saw my grave... As I snapped back to reality, there was a moment before I could shake the image, that wound on the world lingering before my eyes. <STORY_HIGH>-{{ Have you ever wondered what happens after death, between expiration and rebirth? Meditate upon annihilation. Harvest Mordite from the dead. It is the only way to escape. }}-<> The Overseer had served me well. Perhaps their task would free my mind from these lingering nightmares." />
Note the green skies and obsidian moon.

This from the abandoned buildings, so not from us, but likely another traveller:
<Property name="Value" value="‘I traded with a Korvax Entity I met on Ikdlak. The sentient offered refined rods of Chrysonite as part-payment for various star-mapping datums recorded by my ship's sensor modules.’ ‘In the process it encountered the anomalous message I detected several cycles ago. I dismissed the signal as a chance event, a random coalescence of interference that happened to resemble a spoken voice.’ ‘In truth, it had disturbed me. The Entity analysed the message in its own curiosity and revealed another layer beneath the audio component. A visual of a world with green skies and an obsidian moon.’" />

I'm pretty sure there's something more direct, but not finding it right now

[solar cairn]

That's really good

I really want them to describe that moon more.

[dense phoenix]

I haven't played in a while
I know the sandworm and jellyfish capes are out
Any news on the living frigate cape?

[analog breach]

After jellyfish cape there will be 3 underwater rocks then the cape

[dense phoenix]

Ah okay
I thought it was gonna be expedition related

[sour fossil]

Living frigate cape is currently being unlocked

80% or so progress

[dense phoenix]

Awesome shouldn't be too long then

[analog breach]

How do i get heretic title?

[analog breach]

U think i messed up the mission to get the title. Are titles cross save ?

[analog breach]

So i can obtain missing title on diffrent save

[icy citrus]

!coords /noembed 026A:0084:0C16:0219

[cloud jolt]

@icy citrus
026A:0084:0C16:0219 // planet 1

121905417A6B
X:-1429, Y:5, Z:1047, SSI:537
Distance from galactic core: 708607 ly

[icy citrus]

Starbirth Address:

[eternal radish]

This should be pinned. It was a pain to find out without any help.

[icy citrus]

It is 😄

[eternal radish]

It just became. Thanks

[acoustic meteor]

Yo before you explain

@uncut harness do you happen to have a base in the 256th or 257th galaxy?

[uncut harness]

I don't unfortunately

[acoustic meteor]

Sad

[uncut harness]

about the different races within the simulation though

The atlas definitely isn't a standard computer simulation

[acoustic meteor]

Ye

[uncut harness]

From lots of the lore, especially archives, they seem very sentient

[acoustic meteor]

So it's an entity

Did it have a creator?

[uncut harness]

The atlas? yes, theres a little bit about the creator of it, but its hard to find

Its also quite vague

[acoustic meteor]

What does it say about it?

[uncut harness]

Basically, the atlas was abandoned

Its breaking down over time, hence why it has 16 minutes of functional time left

[acoustic meteor]

It's an orphan?

Ohhh and time passes differently for it

[uncut harness]

The purpose of the simulation is to work out why it was abandoned

[acoustic meteor]

Dan that's fucked up, it's wondering why it parents abandoned it. Wild.

Creator of nms has daddy issues

That's cool tho

[uncut harness]

The thing is, you are a key part to it understanding

[acoustic meteor]

Does it ever understand?

[uncut harness]

Not that we know of

[acoustic meteor]

Is the storyline complete?

[uncut harness]

The devs are adding more lore all the time

[acoustic meteor]

Oh cool, but will there be more story missions?

[uncut harness]

Smaller ones, possibly

Ones as big as the artemis path seem unlikely though

About a year ago, trace of metal was added, which dives into Telamon and the sentinels

[acoustic meteor]

Speaking of sentinels, what exactly are they?

[uncut harness]

They were part of the atlas, now disconnected

They keep the simulation in check

[acoustic meteor]

So it's the feds

[uncut harness]

kinda lol

[acoustic meteor]

Dayum

Can't even smuggle some nipnip w/o the feds catching me

[sudden pond]

from what i remember its more than just abandoned. atlas was deemed to be corrupt/glitching and they decided to destroy it. by sending it into the blackhole it orbits

deemed to be corrupt/glitching because it was showing signs of sentience

[uncut harness]

Signs of sentience is an understatement lol

[sudden pond]

^^;

[uncut harness]

Do you remember which part of the lore that is from?

Sentinel pillars/boundary failures etc

[sudden pond]

not really, no =S

[uncut harness]

I feel like more atlas interfaces would be a good start

[sudden pond]

i think boundary failures was about Telemon, and the Remembrance terminals was about this stuff?

[uncut harness]

yeah, boundary failures are on Telamon and the travellers

Im lore hunting at the moment, Ive heard about that stuff somewhere before but its not in my catalogue

[sudden pond]

yep all the stuff about atlas' abandonment came from remembrance terminals https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Rogue_Data

and re-reading through some of it, looks like i was wrong. atlas was simply abandoned

[acoustic meteor]

So do the geks and etc have consciousness or only travelers?

[sudden pond]

🤷‍♀️

[uncut harness]

Up to the player to decide

I choose to believe they do

[acoustic meteor]

I choose not because it makes me feel special

[uncut harness]

Whether they are sentient or not, you are still the most special being in the galaxy

After reading all the lore for the races, you might change your mind

[acoustic meteor]

Are not all travelers the most special?

How do I explain all the ppl at nexus (the actual players)

[uncut harness]

All travellers are special

All are the same

[acoustic meteor]

So I'm same amount of special as null, Artemis, and apollo?

[uncut harness]

The space anomaly is a place between realities and a shelter for all travellers, the one place beyond the atlas

[uncut harness]

yes

[acoustic meteor]

Ooooh cool

Isn't null different tho, he isn't a traveller

Isn't her part of the atlas

Je

He

[uncut harness]

Null is a traveller

Null is the first traveller at that

[acoustic meteor]

Who are the geks and such in the necus

Nexus

There's gek and korvax, and vykeen, and even some tree dude

[uncut harness]

Thats just the devs letting you customise your character

All the NPCs in the anomaly are travellers, not vykeen or gek or korvax

except nada and polo, who created the space anomaly

[acoustic meteor]

Yo what they created it? So they are smartest people in universe?

[uncut harness]

Kinda yeah

[acoustic meteor]

Besides travelers

[uncut harness]

Both reject the atlas

Nada definitely doesnt tell you everything they know

[acoustic meteor]

😮

Bro hiding smthn

So they Satanists? Rejected God and shii

[uncut harness]

You go up to them with something groundbreaking and its just "I know" lol

[uncut harness]

They see through its lies, they know what it is

unlike the Korvax who worship it

[acoustic meteor]

Wym they know what it is, what it is it?

[uncut harness]

Nada rejected the korvax convergence to join Polo, they are one of the few korvax who have, and of those is in the 2% who did not attempt to rejoin

[uncut harness]

It is the simulation

[acoustic meteor]

Does everyone else worship it?

[uncut harness]

The korvax do, the gek do, the vykeen dont

[acoustic meteor]

You'd think a vykeen would vreae the nexs

Nexus

Create

[uncut harness]

Theyre too dumb

[acoustic meteor]

So what's the lore on the species, ik the gek enslaved the Korvax, did they do it during a war or something with the vykeen?

[acoustic meteor]

Oh their idiots? Lol.

[uncut harness]

pretty much, yeha

[uncut harness]

Theres a lot of war on the species

The korvax used to worship the sentinels, until the gek enslaved them

The vykeen waged an endless war against the sentinels, then turned on the gek, who saw the atlas and changed completely, freeing the korvax

[acoustic meteor]

And it was kinda like a no grudges type thing? "yo ik I enslaved your entire ancestors for generations. But we cool right?"

[uncut harness]

The korvax were smart enough to realise that the gek had changed

[acoustic meteor]

Yea but there had to be some Korvex that took it personally

[slow hatch]

The Korvax changed the Gek. They forced them to be different by altering their eggs with their nanite blood.

[uncut harness]

Im interested to see what part of law says that

It seems that all the races have a different view on what happened

The korvax say that the gek saw the atlas, and changed to worship it

[open wagon]

anybody knows the glyphs for living ship in Euclid?

[open steeple]

I haven't been able to find a clear answer to this, are the sentinals still loyal to the Atlas or have all of them defected? I know some of them are corrupted, so those ones don't count

[solar cairn]

Well, the Korvax also saw that "changing of behavior" VERY against what they stand for as pacifist in the ways of Atlas.

They were martyrs who did it, that went against the Korvax belief to change the fate of the rest. Like an "ends justifies the means" thing

[uncut harness]

They have defected, yes

U recommend reading the logs from sentinel pillars

[uncut harness]

Is that from one of the plaque lore?

[solar cairn]

I don't exactly remember where I read it. It might've came from the monoliths.

[open steeple]

Huh, if that's the case I wonder why so many in-universe people hate the Atlas, it just kinda... Exists, trying desperately to understand why before it collapses

[solar cairn]

Some think it's a religion.

Some think of it as an illusion

Some think of it as a Boogeyman

And some see it as an emotionless oppressor

Some don't like to face the fact that death is coming. Hell even mentioning 16 with no context can make NPCs refuse to talk to you

[uncut harness]

The people who hate it are also the people who know what it is

[solar cairn]

Well, yes and no

Some of it is plain ignorant hate like the stories of Hirk

[uncut harness]

Yeah, there's a few who have other reasons

[open steeple]

Unless I missed something, the Atlas is just kinda there, tho not of it's own volition

[solar cairn]

Hirk couldn't hear the whispers of the portal and instead just made shit up

[uncut harness]

I was referring more to those on the space anomaly, namely Nada

[solar cairn]

Oooh yeah

Though, if you try to "visit your old friends" they just kinda blow you off

They want nothing to do with you after a reset

[uncut harness]

Nada makes out that he hates the atlas, but I think he has more of a problem with the convergence to be honest

[solar cairn]

He probably hates that it's being wirshipped

[uncut harness]

Hence all the "false deity" stuff they go on about

[solar cairn]

But maybe that nada, in their wisdom, still is affected by the Atlas.

And hate that they can't change fate

[open steeple]

That makes a lot of sense, actually

[solar cairn]

Even when taking asylum in the Anomaly.

[uncut harness]

Although I do think it's a bit odd that Nada is priest-entity

It makes me think, perhaps they used to lead in the worship of the atlas

That helped them learn what it truly is and what led to them leaving the convergence

[solar cairn]

That could be a personal reason to hate the Atlas, when basically Polo changes their entire reality

[open steeple]

Although it shows how little they actually know about it, because we as the last traveler learn in the Atlas Path that the Atlas doesn't want to be worshiped

[solar cairn]

What's funny is we don't even know if we are last.

Atlas just seeks a user... And to not die

[uncut harness]

The atlas just wants to understand why it was abandoned

[open steeple]

That's true, but I like the idea that we are the last traveler, it grants a sort of somber finality to the story

[open steeple]

Exactly! And unfortunately, I don't think it ever really gets an answer

[uncut harness]

There isn't much finality in the story

A lot of it is left up to interpretation

The cycle continues

[solar cairn]

It doesn't. All it knows is it's being eaten by the black hole

But with it being a super/quantum/AGI computer. 16 seconds could literally be an eternity to it

[uncut harness]

16 minutes iirc

[open steeple]

Finality in the sense that if we are really the last traveler, that through the updates we personally watch as the system deteriorates until the plug is finally pulled

[solar cairn]

16 minuets*

[uncut harness]

Also I'm pretty sure it's more than just a super computer

[solar cairn]

I added slashes!

[uncut harness]

To be able to simulate quintillions of sentient beings, while being self aware itself, seems far beyond and computational ability

[open steeple]

Huh, I thought it was just left on a planet to decay, I didn't know it was about to be eaten by a black hole!

[solar cairn]

I don't know what type of computer it is, but it's gotta be stupid powerful to run a universe larger than our known universe at once

[solar cairn]

Yeap, that's why it's creators abandoned it

[solar cairn]

AGI theoretically can do this. But I dunno

[open steeple]

I thought it was just because it was too big and it had essentially been replaced by a more portable version

[uncut harness]

A bit of both really

[solar cairn]

That's a scary thought, because it is obsolete tech

[uncut harness]

The atlas was becoming self aware, it was becoming old, it was becoming obsolete

[solar cairn]

Meaning it's creators has something Much better

[open steeple]

a potential sequel??? Jk

[solar cairn]

Nah, canonically, each update is like Atlas deteriorating more and more. It used to be very neat and organized, but now interactions are bleeding into the same world. We are seeing more glitches that live "outside the crimson eye" (the living frigates)

I still don't know what they are

[uncut harness]

Living frigates are glitches?

I presumed they were just, big sentient space whales

[solar cairn]

Well, a glitch could be detected. They cant

[solar cairn]

This is true. But I meant what are they in the face of Atlas. Like what simulation error is going on

[open steeple]

It's a useful tool to be able to say a lot of glitches in the game like weirdly generated terrain is all in the lore

[uncut harness]

In leviathan, Frigate flybys were replaced with living frigates, seems like they could be fairly easily detected

[open steeple]

Not saying it's a bad thing, and that they could ever hope to catch every little bug in a literal universe, just that it's neat they can do that

[uncut harness]

I mean, the atlas is still well over 99% functional

[solar cairn]

Which is impressive seeing it's 99.9% destroyed by the black hole

[uncut harness]

Glitch planets and stuff like that are tiny compared to what will happen when the clock goes from 16 to 4 for example

[solar cairn]

Not to mention, Telamon was tasked with erasing while realities

[open steeple]

99% out of quintillions of worlds is still an astronomical number

[open steeple]

Before he got stuck with us, the last traveler

[solar cairn]

Before the Traveller arrived

We are technically every traveller

[open steeple]

That's why I was so certain of us being the last, because of Telamon!

[solar cairn]

Just a different iteration

[uncut harness]

I feel bad for telamon

[open steeple]

I get that, I just mean that the player character, from a lore standpoint, is the last iteration, I think

[solar cairn]

We are the realm walkers, if Telamon erased one reality, we could just go to a new one

[uncut harness]

The whole atlas thing is very biblical

[solar cairn]

Yeah probably

[open steeple]

The story of a god slowly losing control or even agency in a world of it's own creation, honestly a terrifying thought

[uncut harness]

You have the trinity, one
who observes and creates, one who was sent down to be with creation, and one who roams and does the work of the creator

[solar cairn]

Eh

It also dabbles with reincarnation

And the "seed" theory of life

I think that is just the beauty of the story. You can see many points of reference in it

[open steeple]

It's crazy to think that a hundred thousand iterations ago, there were tons of different universes each with their own unique races, languages and possibly even there own differing laws of physics and materials

[solar cairn]

I still can't think of a world with many Heliosi

[open steeple]

Helios is cool

I do find it interesting that almost every person we see in almost completely gender-neutral in appearance

[solar cairn]

Ooo, a world of Hades too

That'll be wild

[open steeple]

That would doom us all

[solar cairn]

Iteration Hades is a nice one!

[open steeple]

I wonder how much input the players have as a whole on the lore of NMS

[open steeple]

That's why it would doom us all

[solar cairn]

Sorry... Was thinking of Mercury, instead of Hades

[open steeple]

At least it isn't Apollo

[scenic stream]

probably my favorite head customization, looks cool af

not a big fan of the back of it though

and since thats the part you see the most while playing with it, im sticking with the shroud of freedom lol

[open steeple]

The shroud looks cool but until I get the right outfit to go with it I can't

[scenic stream]

fair enough, im sporting all the armored pieces & fleet commander cape with it

black & dark red

[open steeple]

Oooo

I wish there was an option for "no chest piece"

[scenic stream]

thats pretty much what i wanted yeah. the armored pauldrons are the closest thing to it i guess

before i got those i used the industrial chest piece, with a cape it sort of looks like it's what makes it attached so it's easy to get past

[open steeple]

I kinda want to get the armored set, but that would require a lot of quicksilver I do not have the time to grind for

The other day I spent 4 hours on one mission because I had to kill 8 sentinel dogs

I literally cleared 3 entire planets and a moon before I was able to get all of them

[scenic stream]

i usually do just the weekend missions that give you 1,8k qs

sometimes the daily for 400 if they're easy and not time consuming

like building an outpost or killing harmful flora / bio horrors

[dense phoenix]

Which one is Hades?
I looked and only found Ares the bubble head

[solar cairn]

I mistaken Hades for mercury. Hades doesn't exist

Mercury is roman, in a field of Greek names

[torn token]

huh, you know i didnt realize that til now

that IS kinda bizzare yeah

[eternal radish]

Fun fact: Cronus is named after a Greek Titan (the father of Zeus) who ate his own children and Iteration Cronus is the Anomaly foodie hehe.

[scenic stream]

i confirm that

source: played all the god of war games

[eternal radish]

I looked up the Greek mythology of Cronus.

[scenic stream]

i loved greek mythology ever since i was a rugrat, never found any other as interesting

[eternal radish]

So I find it pretty humorous that Iteration Cronus is names after this particular Greek Titan lol

[scenic stream]

and he's hard to please

[eternal radish]

As you probably know, Artemis is named after the Greek goddess of the hunt and other things such as the Moon and NMS Artemis wears a decal with a crescent on it on their scarf thingie.

Seems like a reference to their namesake.

[thorn wasp]

Love when they put details like that into designs

[cosmic nebula]

Where did the sentinels come from?

[eternal radish]

Also, since Artemis and Apollo are twins in Greek mythology I wonder if that also symbolises something about NMS Artemis and Apollo.

[eternal radish]

Read the logs at Sentinel pillars.

It explains a lot about them.

[cosmic nebula]

Those actually tell you stuff?

[uncut harness]

Everything tells you stuff

[eternal radish]

Yes they do.

[uncut harness]

The nms lore is very rich

[eternal radish]

The NMS universe is essentially a giant library.

[uncut harness]

There's not much out there that doesn't tell you stuff tbh

[cosmic nebula]

Some argue nms is the 1st true simulation ever made lol

[eternal radish]

It's definitely iconic

But that's an entirely different discussion

[uncut harness]

I finished finding all the Korvax words, so now I can go back and read all their lore

Then I'll move onto the gek

[eternal radish]

I thought you did the Gek first.

[uncut harness]

I did a bit of gek lore first

Then I moved onto and finished the Korvax lore

So hopefully the gek will take a bit less time

[eternal radish]

The Korvax and Gek lore are also very connected.

[cosmic nebula]

Yes because genocide

[uncut harness]

Yeah, I'm wondering if there's less V'ykeen lore or if I've just not heard as much about it

[eternal radish]

Vy'Keen lore talks a lot about Sentinels and Travellers

[dense phoenix]

So we got the Gek, Korvax and VyKeen as normal species
The travelers you meet are displaced versions of yourself
I wonder where the anomalies fit in
Right now they're pretty much the same as travelers except without any npcs since they're player exclusive

[cosmic nebula]

Why aren't the species found on the anomaly present in the universe? Are they part of a different universe or what?

[uncut harness]

They're travellers from other universes iirc

[dense phoenix]

Interesting that most random travelers heads are just Artemis's with random stuff slapped on

It's like Artemis was the first and each iteration after added something to their head

[eternal radish]

What if the creators of the Atlas looked like Artemis?

[dense phoenix]

Then i hope their eyes are rotated correctly

[eternal radish]

And Anomalies look like that underneath their helmets?

At least that is the headcanon I have for my own NMS character. That their current visage is their actual visage and that they now wear an invisible bubble as helmet and when they just spawned in their head was covered by a generic astronaut helmet.

[eternal radish]

Mine plain black. I disabled the reptilian eye look. You can just switch the eyes to "empty" and then they're just black.

[dense phoenix]

Probably the best option
I still wonder why the eyes are wrong on that head

[eternal radish]

Must be a mistake. The reptilian eyes look like goat eyes now lol

[dense phoenix]

I kinda thought anomalies were the human stand in
Being the only race that seems to need helmets
Humans are too fragile for space

[acoustic meteor]

Yall hear anything abt the negative galaxys?

[icy citrus]

!fakegalaxies

[cloud jolt]

to view, enable Link Preview

**The Truth about galaxy #257 and the Negative galaxies**

No Man's Sky will generate galaxy names for any number you put into the save file with a save editor, so you can see many different names on the galaxy map, but you are really still in Odyalutai or Euclid depending if you go above 256 or below 0.

Contributor: Gumsk#9650

[acoustic meteor]

What's this supposed to tell me?

[icy citrus]

That there aren't negative galaxies

[eternal radish]

I had this interaction today.

[solar cairn]

You just pleasured a korvax

[scenic stream]

achievement unlocked: space gigolo

[eternal radish]

You guys 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[eternal radish]

I wonder if this was really implied to be a lewd interaction or if we just have dirty minds haha

Seriously tho what the fuck just happened? 🤣🤣 🤣

[solar cairn]

Ok, re-reading it.... I think a korvax pleasured you

[eternal radish]

I wonder how the Korvax managed to let such a strong electric current go to my body without electrocuting me.

Like how am I not dead???

[solar cairn]

Maybe muscle stimulation?

Like, simulating the right pressure sensors that we interpret?

[eternal radish]

Irl people have survived being struck by thunder. It all depends wether or not the current goes through the heart (assuming my Traveller character has one).

[eternal radish]

Good point!

[solar cairn]

Yeah, and we naturally generate electricity, just a Very very low power if we compared it to anything else

[eternal radish]

Idk how powerful exactly the electric charge was that went through my Traveller's body. Judging from the dialogue it was pretty strong.

[solar cairn]

Now, how the brain reads these signals, and then reads a response based on a pattern closely fitting those signals is beyond me right now, but something I plan to go to uni for

[solar cairn]

Enough to climax apparently

[eternal radish]

"As it reaches a climax". I don't know if that's.... literal. Hehe

[solar cairn]

reads channel name

I think it still applies. We may not be spoiling the story, but if you read this convo your innocence will be spoiled

[solar cairn]

Yeah and the "the feeling builds and builds ... Until nanites bubble from my skin"

[eternal radish]

I put the entire interaction here because it might fall under spoiler

[solar cairn]

Oh, I mean our talk about it now

It is not Disney friendly

[eternal radish]

Well Disney now owns Predator and Alien. All I'm saying 🤷‍♀️

Anyways, NMS spoilery stuff before the mods get mad.

I have had "medical" interactions with Korvax before. Another one is where a Korvax sticks a long needle into your brain and extracts brain tissue.

[solar cairn]

That one I've seen before. That one seems pretty much like what a korvax would do

[eternal radish]

They're interesting beings. Sometimes they might seem a little creepy with their experiments but they're good at heart and only want to help.

[pallid depot]

No wre're actually spoiling your milk sorry

[thorn wasp]

The underwater questline is really meh ngl

Dreams of the Deep i think it is called

[analog breach]

By Mechanics it is quite meh.

[thorn wasp]

Lore wise its cool

[dense phoenix]

I was too annoyed to pay attention to lore
I was on an ice planet and couldn't use my jetpack or i'd freeze to death
So i had to use the slow Nautilus

[solar cairn]

I used the slow nautilus...
Cool in concept, not in practice.

[regal turtle]

Dreams of the deep... those underwater parts in videogames i swear

[spice obsidian]

I like using the Minotaur for underwater exploring more than the Nautilus. Makes it so much easier.

[dire hatch]

Who tf is telemon?

[tough sigil]

you are

[dire hatch]

Hahaha laylaps u funny

Is it me or my suit?

[mental socket]

suit is telamon

[solar cairn]

You're NOT-Telamon

We... Don't really know who Telamon or what Telamon is. Though it's hypothesized that Telamon is the one who wrote the logs on the boundary failure buildings, on glitch planets.

[sour fossil]

Lol we do know who / what Telamon is

If you read all the Boundary Failure logs

[solar cairn]

I haven't read all of them yet. But the traveller is not telamon

[sour fossil]

Telamon was || a subroutine of Atlas, meant to oversee / monitor it ||

As Atlas is falling apart, Telamon becomes the AI behind exosuit

The voice you hear though out the journey is Telamon

[solar cairn]

Oooh

[sour fossil]

And Google who Telamon was in greek mythology

[solar cairn]

I already did

And that is why the sentinels are by and large rogue?

But, wouldn't they listen to the exosuit? If it is Telamon.

[sour fossil]

I would assume Sentinels are doing Atlas' biding and Atlas did remove Telamon from itself

So they don't see it as a friendly entity

[solar cairn]

The Atlas also used the Traveller, as input, but openly hostile to it at the same time

Imma go read all the boundary logs. Some of this just isn't clicking.

[uncut harness]

Technology Recharged

[thorn wasp]

Just did my first derelict freighter and i loooved the atmosphere

Gonna do more of these for sure

[uncut harness]

Not anymore

They started to disobeyed the atlas, and the atlas didn't stop them

[open steeple]

Wasn't it that the Atlas couldn't stop them? If I remever correctly, due to the Atlas slowly losing control over the universe

Also, I wonder why Galaxy 256 was removed from the natural progression but not from the game entirely

[dire hatch]

[analog breach]

I think it was for preorder or day1 pepole and later hg cuted the access. only way to access it is getting a piggyback ride there. Its a kind of Bonus stage for getting to all galaxies.

[rare ledge]

When update ? 🙂

[analog breach]

No one knows

[thorny rover]

5 days

Totally not a random choice made in 3 seconds and actually a leak from my very trusted associate

[scenic stream]

Source: Trust me, bro.

[eternal radish]

Are your for real?

[thorny rover]

Idk, my extremely trusted leak dealer that is 100% NOT fake says its real

[eternal radish]

So that's a no.

[dim jacinth]

Weird question, but in the part of the main story where null sends you to find data on each race, does the Korvax cartographer always send you to an underwater ruin, or is it just chance?

I’ve been thinking about the relationship between the Korvax and The Abyss, and it would be cool if a Korvax sending you to encounter Abyssal horrors was an entirely intentional thing

[uncut harness]

It does it every time, yes

[dim jacinth]

Cool

[thorny rover]

Welcome to the club, how long did it take you?

[glossy bridge]

SHEESH nice

[uncut harness]

maybe a day or two. wasnt very long, since i played on custom save before so i knew what had to be done.

[thorny rover]

Nice

[scenic stream]

grats, got mine a couple days back too. just needed 1 glyph, ported 4k LY away from the core, upgraded hyperdrive and warped the rest

definitely had some close call moments but all in all fairly easy

[uncut harness]

i went to portal, and used the first glyph for all of them, then it took me like 5k Lys from there. and warped a few times.

[scenic stream]

yeah p much the same

[torn token]

most likely Telamon's been completely isolated from the system 👀

hence why in A Taste of Metal you have to jab a console with a needle in your suit to access it

[surreal terrace]

Do the Wormskin Folios they brought back do anything or are they the same lore from the worm expedition?

[analog breach]

I think its the same. And i think they dont do anything. They just a curiosity or collectible for catalouge

[surreal terrace]

Thanks

[bold gulch]

@slow hatch could you tell me what they all do

is burning just pirates or is it literally burning?

i'm guessing ancestral has a bunch of old tech pillars and shit around, seren maybe low sentinels and parallel just a mirror of this?

[slow hatch]

Honestly, I haven't done that part in over two years, so I really don't recall the significance of each.

But in the long run, every decision you make in the game only matters to you.

[bold gulch]

looking on the fandom parallel = lush

wait, that snorm

[slow hatch]

There's no bad options, just slightly less good.

[bold gulch]

serene = lush which sounds good , at least if you're low tech (though the bugs might suck)

ancestral = empty and burning = harsh, both of those sound bad

[regal heron]

the different types of galaxies are weighted towards generating more of a particular type of planet

[bold gulch]

okay, I think I'm understanding the fandom a little better now, my browser must have bene buggy because the galaxy type didn't look like it was linked properly but I reloaded and its good

so what has the 'rarest' resources

[slow hatch]

All galaxy types have all things. Just some have a tiny bit more of some than the others.

[bold gulch]

ya, i'm looking to ones that are weighted "better" than others

so like more t3 resources so I don't have to refine them

stuff like that

[slow hatch]

And by tiny, I mean I've never really noticed the differences. In over two years.

[regal heron]

I guess harsh would have more planets with activated metals?

[bold gulch]

good enough for me, red is my favorite color anyways

ty for your help stray and ronin

[regal heron]

Ronin's been to every galaxy type

[slow hatch]

Welcome. Have long, safe travels.

[bold gulch]

oh snap, all my tech broke

this is neat

[slow hatch]

Congrats. You're now past the beginning, and into the game.

[bold gulch]

just realized, I probably should of done my starbirth mission before finishing this, hope it didn't reset the timer

[cyan spade]

I was just thinking, ||are we Null?||

||Or at least an iteration of him?||

[uncut harness]

Pretty much, yes

[cyan spade]

I regret the choice I made at the end of the story

[uncut harness]

Which one did you make?

[cyan spade]

The reset

Now that I have 180 hours into this save I wish I could change it

[uncut harness]

Did you chose to reset?

[cyan spade]

I've always taken game choices on a personal level lol. Nada and Polo not knowing who I am feels wrong

[cyan spade]

Yes

[uncut harness]

You could always start a new save and chose the other option

[thorny rover]

Reset good

[cyan spade]

I would, but I've done so much in this one that I don't really have a choice

[thorny rover]

Makes Atlas better, eradicates the bad

[cyan spade]

Silly Atlas

I don't trust anything that decides that the Gek will exist lol

[thorny rover]

Its not our fault, we do not like geks

But their reptile existence makes them persistent in reality warping

[cyan spade]

I'm glad the Korvax sacrificed themselves to improve the GEk

Gek

[thorny rover]

Improve?

No

We conquered

Anyway spoiler: we all die in 16 minutes

[cyan spade]

Lol

I guess the time I've taken to learn Korvax was a waste

[thorny rover]

Indeed

[mystic cape]

Then howcome multiple planet days pass?

[thorny rover]

You know the saying "time is relative"?

Well we are in a ||simulation|| and on the outside its 16 minutes, but in nms it can be virtually an eternity

Or nigh-eternity

[uncut harness]

Interesting interpretation

[solar cairn]

That's like reading a warped history book

[subtle gorge]

Ah yes the solution to genocide:colonialism

Oh I just realized that was a day ago lol

[heady wyvern]

This chat runs fairly slow, anyway.

[uncut harness]

But why 16?

[eternal radish]

Because not 17

[karmic rune]

It's 15 and a half rounded up due to bit storage.

[scenic stream]

because 16¹⁶ is 18 quintillion which is the rough number of planets in nms

my headcanon

[glacial sage]

16^16 equals the exact amount of planets in no man sky

[heady wyvern]

16¹⁶ is 16^16. Just another way of kf JC d JJ jkkkjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjmmjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkkjkjjjjjjkjkjjjjjjhjjjjjjjjj writing it.

Also my significant other seized control of my keyboard for a moment and demanded I not delete that. Sorry in advance.

Anyway

[scenic stream]

thank you, professor

off topic: my first guess wouldve been that a cat stepped on your keyboard

[solar cairn]

Could've played that off as a simulation glitch. Looks way better than -Kzzt-

[lean pagoda]

are there ways for me to learn about what the world of glass is in-game

anything like a quest or something

if so please list them and I'll see which ones I haven't done yet

but so far glass just seems like a random thing to throw out there that loosely ties into salvaged glass and the sentinels

[uncut harness]

Base computer archives, abandoned buildings and sentinel pillars

[lean pagoda]

alright, ty

been doing most of those actually, guess I'm just not far enough in

[sour anvil]

I believe ||Laylaps|| also has some dialog about it?

By the way, is there any significance to -null-'s name?

[solar cairn]

There is significance to the character.

If that's what you mean

[open steeple]

I'm pretty sure it means that his name isn't able to be rendered in our universe, since he was one of the first travelers, his universe is drastically different than ours, the last

Speaking of -null-, I wonder why he freaked out so much, begging us not to go to the center, when he was the one who told us to in the first place? If he's afraid of dying, why doesn't he just go somewhere else, again?

[thorny rover]

Or maybe the fact that he sacrificed a lot to be able to see his whole universe, the sacrifices changed him, rebirthing him into a white sphere, null of any characteristics

[open steeple]

That is a much better theory

[open steeple]

There are a few very scattered sources, but ultimately the lore on it leaves a good but to be theorized

[thorny rover]

Afraid to die, afraid to miss out, who knows

May be jealousy, may be 'cause he cares about you

[open steeple]

I suppose that's possible, and likely, but still a tad jarring. I went from liking him to saying "bro wtf you told me to do this"

"you're going to reset everything, I know it" Thats... What the Atlas told me to do, so yeah, probably?

[solar cairn]

Honestly, I thought Null was the one who cut open the sentienls for the glyphs

Making him the first traveller in my eyes. He discovered the simulation, what Atlas truly was. All of the secrets laid bare

Learning that would change you to be pretty.... Nihilistic

And by that point the technology for the head of light was available so. What better symbol of "nothing" than literally having no discernable features with no name. Since, we all don't "exist"

[open steeple]

That's fair, yeah

But still, the dude didn't have to have a panic attack at us for doing what he told us to do

[solar cairn]

I mean, he did help us make a device to potentially save Artemis. So maybe he does care for our well-being to some extent?

Like, regretting what his discoveries did to him and don't want us to follow the same path

But that's a BIG stretch

[open steeple]

I like to think he panicked and forgot he wasn't in our universe, therefore he wouldn't be erased

[solar cairn]

Well, he is a traveler. He technically is us

So, it still doesn't make sense for him to panic

[open steeple]

Yeah, he is literally at no risk

[solar cairn]

Unless he forgot that entirely. Or cared for our sanity

[open steeple]

Perhaps he was scarred we would reset it because that would mean so many worlds go undiscovered

[solar cairn]

We all have a guide for this journey, so it kinda softens the blow. Null (assuming he was the first) had to discover this all on their own. And there wasn't an Anomaly for him. He learned everything he discovered, what he is... Meant nothing

[solar cairn]

Maybe, he does care about discovery... But that means urging us not to discover more.

[open steeple]

Then I'm genuinely just confuzled as to what null's problem was

Null and Apollo had reverse character progression in the sense of how much I liked them

I started out not really liking Apollo, I thought "okay, you're just an ass", but by the end I thought he was really cool. Null started out as really cool, and ended confusing, and while I like both from how they are written, null just has a sad and panicked end

[solar cairn]

Same here with Apollo. I thought they were a dick. A self righteous dick. But he softened up at the end. Null.. was like "yeah, I don't care" to "please don't reset, there is still so much that can happen. You would lose all your friends, everyone would forget you" panicking

[open steeple]

That's the one thing I'm sad about, that Nada and Polo want basically nothing to do with me anymore

[solar cairn]

Well, they don't know you

[open steeple]

I know, which is why I'm sad

They promised they would still remember and they were wrong

They assumed they were safe from the Atlas, or at least out of it's reach, but in the end, they are just as much a slave to it as the rest of us

[solar cairn]

I don't think they are travellers

Because everyone else reacts pretty much the same.

It's just polo and nada

[open steeple]

Perhaps they just choose to not like you then? Since you interacted so closely with the Atlas?

[solar cairn]

Maybe.

[open steeple]

@soft island Since the Atlas is quickly losing function, about 16 minutes of in-universe irl time remaining before a literal black hole eats the real Atlas, the simulations are degrading, allowing travellers to meet under odd circumstances that we can control. Hence, we have multiplayer now. But in the terms of the story, we couldn't do that with Apollo as we didn't know how. And since the simulation is degrading, all the universes are becoming the same, that's why the portals lead to the same planet, but in different universes, so we couldn't actually get to them, nor they, us.

[unborn bough]

@thorny rover “the abyss” is what remained after the death and annihilation of Korvax Prime.

Abyss / Void Mother / Atlantid

She (because mother) was the AI of Korvax Prime.

[thorny rover]

Mhm

Well I play nms to cook and explore

Not much of a lore guy 😅

[solar cairn]

Say whaaaaa

[merry estuary]

Gotta respect that too

[crystal plover]

isnt our perspective of the atlas degradation relative , giving us almost but not quite as long as we need ?

[sour anvil]

"The Atlas is degrading, but on an alien timescale."

That's what the game directly says, but it's rather vague.

[solar cairn]

Basically, it could be an eternity for us. Or whenever HG decides to shut the game down

[bold heart]

Do the credits ever roll? I just finished the main story and was surprised they didn't given that it sets itself up for the perfect cut-to-title

[solar cairn]

Credits are optional in settings I believe

[bold heart]

Well yeah but the fact it didn't take the opportunity to show title then credits at the end has me very surprised, so I was wondering if it happens later

[solar cairn]

Hey, could be a style thing. "There is no end, just another start"

[bold heart]

but mah proper ending >:c

[scenic stream]

praise atlas

[thorny rover]

Indeed

[cedar iron]

I chose to Reject the atlas in my first playthrough, then I ran it again and reset the simulation, and wow is that choice so much better

[thorny rover]

Yes, do what Atlas wants

[cedar iron]

I do what it wants in my own interests

Just because life is a simulation doesn't mean it's not real

[hidden folio]

What atlas

[cedar iron]

You'll encounter it later in the game

Just keep trucking along the primary storylines!

[scenic stream]

yeah probably should stay out of this channel for now

[merry estuary]

Explain

[thorny rover]

Reality is relative

What you think reality is what it is on you

For what you think is real, it's fake for someone else

So just because in the grand scheme the nms simulation verse is not real, doesn't mean it is not to those inside it

[merry estuary]

Okay so what I thought

[late tusk]

humans in no mans sky when. :(

[drifting spoke]

Neverrr

[late tusk]

:c

[merry estuary]

Tbh whats special

We already play a humanoid

Question. What is up with this light for a head thing, is there lore on that?

[uncut harness]

I think there's a little, yeah

It's mentioned in the boundary failure lore

[solar cairn]

Yes

It's a technology that people for some reason wanted to do. There was... Many sacrifices to get the tech to a stable point

why they wanted to do that? I have no idea, I question some practices we do irl and none are that extreme to want to replace your head with light

I think it's uncomfortable anyway

[merry estuary]

Yeah thats something I really want to know. Why do this? What does it give you?

[slow hatch]

Extra flashlight? LOL

[merry estuary]

Butwealreadyhaveaflashlight

[scenic stream]

with what people are able to do to themselves nowadays, replacing their head with a rotating flashlight isnt really that big a stretch anymore

[slow hatch]

Yes, but consider: Extra flashlight.

[scenic stream]

more lumen = more flashlight

imagine having that for a head and waking up at night to go for a piss

youd instantly get blinded

and how do you sleep comfortably on a pillow if your head keeps rotating unless youre moving

[slow hatch]

Easy. Grease your pillow for less friction.

[merry estuary]

I... Have no further questions lol

[wanton talon]

what you want to do after completing main story?

[scenic stream]

die

[sour anvil]

Why is "Aeron" used instead of "Sentinel" in the Space Station Core?

[thorny rover]

Different names, same meaning

And maybe a Reference to the Aeon Wars

The fight between vy'keen and Sentinels

[cyan spade]

I think Null's fear of us is because he's done everything and seen everything in his timeline, including reset the Atlas many times over, but us resetting it erases him.

Meaning eventually we will become Null, a traveller will come, then reset us, removing us from existence

[uncut harness]

The one problem with that is that we are the last traveller

[spark egret]

How do I find a portal? Quest line for glyphs - would an exocraft radar work?

Oh, I think I got it - if not, I’ll be back 😎

[solar cairn]

maybe wanting to reduce identity? its not like we use mouths to eat in NMS anymore, as well as communicate. Nah we can just directly beam words in someone's head. at least thats why i think -Null- did it. other people? no idea. people go crazy with body modification

[merry estuary]

But we have a form of identity still, the way ships and such know its us

[solar cairn]

True, but it could be an identity similar to online identities

Like, what you present and acknowledge as "you" online. Could or could not be who "you" are irl.

The ships, exosuit could recognize us as Registered User [arbitrary number] designated as [Name you choose]

[merry estuary]

What keeps another entity to register same as you?

[sour anvil]

You mean, -null-'s head?

[solar cairn]

in what reference?

[solar cairn]

death

[merry estuary]

Id say explain but Ill go sleep shortly

[solar cairn]

easyish. Death removes the registered number that is the unique identification. "iteration 1784t73647632" or something but your username is like designation name.

many things could have the same designation name. but registered identification is different. like your character death spawns another iteration. and usually (i have not confirmed) those distress beacons show the iteration number rather than your username. these should be different, but i haven't tested it.

[merry estuary]

That is assuming every entity respawns as we do, which I somehow doubt

[solar cairn]

You're right they don't. But I doubt it would be any different than how the Atlas "creates" us

[merry estuary]

That makes me wonder now anyway. Are we supposed to exist?

Arent we an anomaly canonically too?

I dont think anomalies should exist

[eternal radish]

If you respawn after dying you get the pop-up: //DEATH EVENT//ITERATION RESET//

I wonder if that means if we are actually stuck in some sort of timeloop, like in the Leviathan expedition but it's actually the case for every gamemode except permadeath.

[merry estuary]

Yeah I know

It cant be a timeloop in the classic sense, because what we did so far remains

More like the korvax maybe, but the other way around. Instead of the body getting a new mind, our mind might get a new body

We've carried Artemis' mind around, so its possible

[uncut harness]

the gek mention rebirths in some of the story

[uncut harness]

I don't fully understand the whole deal with anomalies, we are travellers that for some reason take a different form

[icy citrus]

The Anomalies wear the exact same outfits we saw The Dreamers in, in the ARG

[jade swift]

What are travelers even 😂

Like I don't even fully understand the concept of their existence and why they collapsed a universe on null?

[thorny rover]

They are travelers

[eternal radish]

I rescued a stranded Gek today and I was thinking about how they're cute and all and then a monolith reminded me of how their First Spawn ancestors were fascist cannibals 🙁

[thorny rover]

People made by Atlas to travel atlas

[eternal radish]

People who travel

No shit Sherlock

Lol

[thorny rover]

Which is why never look at a gek with sympathy

#RememberKorvaxPrime

[eternal radish]

They're different now, though.

[thorny rover]

Same shit, different day
Will still hate gek until they become robo-geks

[eternal radish]

The modern Gek aren't responsible for what the First Spawn did. The modern Gek are descendants of the low spawn after all.

[jade swift]

I see 😂

[thorny rover]

I know

[eternal radish]

Worker bees

[thorny rover]

But no fun not hating the geks

[eternal radish]

Not much influence

[thorny rover]

They just have that kind of punchable faces

They had changed, they are now good, I am a strong advocate that the present determines the man, not the past

But they are. so. god. damn. hateable.

[solar cairn]

You just think they are smelly

[sour anvil]

Korgek

[eternal radish]

They already are, sorta.

[solar cairn]

Nothing like a little bit of forced eugenics

[open steeple]

The wiki, for some reason makes no reference to the fact that the Atlas fairly explicitly states that a black hole is about to destroy it

[eternal radish]

Yup. Rogue data explains it

[merry estuary]

Wiki isnt very reliable

[upbeat saddle]

Wait what black hole? Either that got completely wiped from my memory or I missed it

[eternal radish]

Yeah. The rogue data explains it. It can be accessed by entering the backrooms of small settlements and space stations.

[upbeat saddle]

thank you! I'll go check that out 👍

[open steeple]

In both rogue data entries and the Atlas Path, the Altas makes explicit mentions to an "extreme gravitational anomaly". While it could theoretically be the sun, the way it's written is the same way in-game black holes are referenced.

[uncut harness]

the oppression of the gek is one of the saddest things in the nms lore imo

[open steeple]

Correction, Artemis, not Atlas

[civic jackal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/667522497326874626/1070769755809644666/image.png

What do you mean, "Reptilian body"

[tame grotto]

Scaly type body, maybe

[civic jackal]

Yeah, wtf

That's not Gek, Vykeen, or Korvax

[tame grotto]

Could've been a traveller, different type of contrasting aesthetic, you know like Artemis looks different

[civic jackal]

Fair

[solar cairn]

Reptilian... Like Tethys?

Isn't it theorized that all the Travellers in the Anomalies existed at one point? And that their races just went extinct always leaving the 3

[gilded lagoon]

So i chose to not reset the universe, did i miss anything important?

[icy citrus]

No

[hard otter]

so im at the purge mission

[cedar iron]

mhm

[hard otter]

and it wants me to progress toward the center

but i thought that was game over

[cedar iron]

Did you complete the purge mission?

[hard otter]

it currently says reset the simulation

[cedar iron]

Oh alright

[hard otter]

with the objective progress toward the galatic center

[cedar iron]

Ok ok

You will uhh

Dang It's been a while

I think you'll want to keep finding atlas interfaces

Did you get all of them already?

[hard otter]

atlas what? lol

[cedar iron]

Yknow

the

Big triangle stations

Ok ok, so

[hard otter]

oh yea

[cedar iron]

Did you go along finding those?

What was your previous objective?

[hard otter]

i found enough to get to the one that needs the seed thing

[cedar iron]

I think that's the atlas path