nms-spoilers

[solar cairn]

So that flavor of Vykeen has ... 4 eyes??????

[unborn bough]

No the external might be fake

I think

[solar cairn]

Then... How do they see

[eternal radish]

What if it’s indeed an organic helmet?

[unborn bough]

Through the visor...

Yeah, it looks like organic helmet

[solar cairn]

If it's an organic helmet... Why don't we have one

[unborn bough]

and vykeen were already known for doing gruesome task of self sacrifice to become worms...

Who knows.

The wormskin folio were by far my favorite piece of lore.

[solar cairn]

It felt like the necronomicon

[unborn bough]

yeahhhh!

[eternal radish]

I have it too. I love it. Interestingly it has scripture all written over it.

[unborn bough]

Yep!

[eternal radish]

I wonder how that manifests on sandworm skin.

[solar cairn]

Very odd set. Admittedly I breezed passed all that lore.

Maybe through song?

[eternal radish]

Because you get it when you kill a worm

Tendril

I also love the lore of the Vy’keen worm cult.

[unborn bough]

There's a connection between the worms and the Vy'keen but I never gave it any thought.

[solar cairn]

So far what I learned is that songs in NMS had very weird properties

[unborn bough]

What are those properties?

[eternal radish]

It was revealed in Expedition 4

[unborn bough]

Yeah! i know of the connection, yes.

[solar cairn]

I don't really know. From summoning space whales, to having a void egg hatch, to maybe add writing to titan worms. Change physical properties, summon things.

[unborn bough]

But that is the "language" of the living ships.

[real cosmos]

how do you scan titan worms ? Or you don't, I can't seem to be able to catch one, despite aiming scanner straight at them

[unborn bough]

We cannot.

[solar cairn]

I was never able to scan one

[eternal radish]

That’s the thing, you don’t

[solar cairn]

Nor tame one

[real cosmos]

ah, so it's not just me

[unborn bough]

There is a known bug. I have scanned the big worm too.

[eternal radish]

Huh?

[solar cairn]

Then their language warps reality... Seeing how the "crimson eye" doesn't detect them either

[unborn bough]

Yup! In multiplayer mode to be exact.

[eternal radish]

What results did you get?

[unborn bough]

I think they are beyond the reach of the Atlas, they are from a different world, a different universe altogether.

[real cosmos]

is there any other extra storyline after living ship? or that's about the limit of scripted things

[solar cairn]

Or straight up glitches in the simulation

[unborn bough]

Nothing... It just had the animation of scanning and the red dot became a green paw.

[eternal radish]

You got units?

[unborn bough]

Nothing at all, nope.

[eternal radish]

Side quests

[solar cairn]

There is some stuff. But depends

[unborn bough]

You can get more than one living ship.

[solar cairn]

And fragments of lore depending on what you find

[unborn bough]

there are lore

yeah

[eternal radish]

You don’t have to do the quest anymore

[real cosmos]

I'm not talking about missions... or random encounters, just some bigger storyline which you can trigger (like the water one or the mech one)

[real cosmos]

buy another egg ? or how ?

[eternal radish]

Under a Rebel Star too

[unborn bough]

We still have to do the first starbirth to get the stuff.

[eternal radish]

No

[real cosmos]

rebel star is early, I'm talking post-Artemis stuff

[unborn bough]

When was this changed?

[eternal radish]

You are just contacted in space and you have to follow the living ship to claim it

[unborn bough]

After the first star birth is completed.

[eternal radish]

Rebel Star is post-Artemis, as far as I’m concerned.

[real cosmos]

how ? when ? random ? anomaly finder ?

[eternal radish]

Carry the void egg in your inventory

[nocturne moss]

||So what happens if you choose to put Artemis in the computer?||

[real cosmos]

rebel star triggers after a few jumps, that sounds early to me

[eternal radish]

They will contact you later

[nocturne moss]

saying what exactly

[real cosmos]

so buy a 2nd egg?

[nocturne moss]

already chose to ||kill her||

[eternal radish]

Artemis quest too. But for me it might have been a different perspective because the quest was added sfter I completed the Artemis missions long ago.

[real cosmos]

ah, well I mean from the perspective of starting a new game

[charred quarry]

that theyre happy to live and they wanna meet up where you get the option to either lie or tell them where they are

[eternal radish]

That they are happy to have escaped the place they were in and that they’d like to meet, but then you have the option to lie or tell Artemis the truth.

[nocturne moss]

and the truth leads to what reaction

considering she most likely did not want that existence

[charred quarry]

they get sad and contact you at a later date

[real cosmos]

.... which never happens

[charred quarry]

as they have to process that info

[nocturne moss]

damn

[charred quarry]

but they do contact you later

[eternal radish]

They end up accepting it.

[charred quarry]

yh

[solar cairn]

Yeah... My playthrough I let Artemis die

[nocturne moss]

game about space sandbox exploration having better story than 99% of anything else

[solar cairn]

So, they never entered the simulation

YEP

[charred quarry]

i like to think of it as we gave artemis an entirely new solar system to explore

[real cosmos]

the story is pretty much a 20+ hours long tutorial

[solar cairn]

I mean... I had a big brain dump about this topic the other night

[nocturne moss]

idk after like 10 hours I fucked off to make a gold farm

see cost of ship cry adapt overcome

[charred quarry]

plus there was always the possibility of bringing artemis back in a artificial body (from a roleplay prospective

[solar cairn]

I straight up ignored the story for a living ship

[eternal radish]

I also think there might be hope in the future. What if we can somehow clone Artemis or the boundaries between our simulation and theirs will be lifted and we can eventually meet?

[charred quarry]

whats the story for a living ship?

[real cosmos]

I have serious doubts HG will implement any extensions to Artemis story

[nocturne moss]

any reason you dwant a living hsip over a regular one

[solar cairn]

The curse of immortality tho. Artemis lived so long the starmap they wrote was outdated... Do you know how long that takes???

[eternal radish]

Idk. I kinda hope so tbh. They keep expanding the lore. Who knows 🤷🏻‍♀️

[eternal radish]

Their starmap was outdated because the starts in the sky shifted. They were in a place where time and everything was screwed.

[real cosmos]

what I do hope is that they implement more interesting missions/quests, they lose their appeal very quickly, it's just the same thing again and again, find someone, deliver something, kill something...

[nocturne moss]

technically, by making it a possibility to put artemis in an actual body it could be a gameplay feature of getting an exploration friend like 9S in Nier

[charred quarry]

spoilers for those who have not finished artemisis questline entirely ||do we know if artemis is still alive in the anomaly after the euclid reset?||

[solar cairn]

They also said "I looked up and the stars were different, they changed" even in their time they shifted

[eternal radish]

Probably

[solar cairn]

Half of the gameplay loop lorewise is like, you going out making your own missions. Like I personally love this lore stuff, and would like to make a Smithsonian style museum

[solar cairn]

Technically yes? Since the anomaly sits out of Atlas view

[eternal radish]

It happened really fast from their perspective. They also said they’ve been stuck in that place for 20 years. Later they said it was a few months. Really odd.

[charred quarry]

||but apollos gone and everyone else on the anomaly was reset as if it was our first encounter like it was a fresh game of nms so wouldnt it stand to reason that artemis was reset out of the anomaly too?||

[real cosmos]

I'm talking specifically about the missions the station NPC gives (or that thing in the anomaly), the "do this, get some reward"

[eternal radish]

What if resetting the Atlas resetted Artemis too?

[solar cairn]

Oooh yeah. Na

[real cosmos]

they get very boring very quickly

[solar cairn]

Agreed, I hardly do them

[charred quarry]

thats what im saying

[nocturne moss]

forgot they exist tbh

[eternal radish]

I hope so

[charred quarry]

hopefully next time they dont go through a portal lol

[solar cairn]

If so... I straight up let the Artemis Spirit go. So...

[nocturne moss]

so what exactly is the atlas and why is it suffering?

[charred quarry]

youll find out

[real cosmos]

a phone with a cracked screen

[charred quarry]

pretty big spoilers

[nocturne moss]

dont matter

[eternal radish]

Let’s call them and warn them haha. Do not step through the portal

[solar cairn]

This is the SPOILER channel

I'm dropping it. Y'all can correct me

[nocturne moss]

spoil me idrc

so what is the atlas and why it hurt hurt

[real cosmos]

... which is also running out of battery power, apparently, only having 16% left

not a good day to be a phone

[charred quarry]

yh but big spoilers for the first big questline so put spoiler text on as so others maybe dont have to see it?

[solar cairn]

||Atlas is a computer created and abandoned by an unknown race, that is slowly being devoured by a black hole. To cope with the abandonment and how to save itself, it runs simulations... But the black hole already corrupted some parts, making the simulations unstable||

[nocturne moss]

Damn

[solar cairn]

So yeh

That's pretty much the jist. I could be wrong on some details

[eternal radish]

||The planet the Atlas supercomputer is on a planet about to be swallowed by a black hole and has 16 minutes of runtime left but that’s basically an eternity to us||

[nocturne moss]

So all the realities in the game are its simulations

[solar cairn]

Yep

We are Artemis... And not Artemis in a way

[eternal radish]

4th wall breaking

[solar cairn]

Big ole Schroeder loop

[nocturne moss]

Ah nms more goes with the fractal reality

[eternal radish]

We are all aspects of the same consciousness

[nocturne moss]

The atlas supercomputer might as well exist in an insignificantly tiny part of a much larger simulation

[eternal radish]

Yup

[solar cairn]

And we used ourselves in the living ship questline

We used ourselves....

[real cosmos]

what if WE are part of a... very advanced Atlas ?

[nocturne moss]

Tf

That one doesn't add up holup

[eternal radish]

Eventually this all goes back to our universe

[real cosmos]

and no mans sky is just Nada's computer :P

[solar cairn]

Actually, yeah the Atlas made a computer in the simulation to run a similar simulation as itself. (This is found in those giant servers locked behind an atlas pass door

[eternal radish]

Our real universe is lol

[solar cairn]

Yeah, so you know those travellers we have to collect in that soul catching device....

[charred quarry]

we have the same "job" as artemis but ofc we are not artemis

[solar cairn]

We technically captured ourselves in a different state of reality

[eternal radish]

We are all fractals of the mind of the creator

[nocturne moss]

Cool so what do we do with the atlas

[solar cairn]

Honestly, this theme follows some reincarnation theories pretty closely

[eternal radish]

I’m familiar with these. “Higher selves” and “oversouls”.

That’s why I LOVE the NMS lore.

[solar cairn]

I'll see if I can find a post referencing what I mean

[nocturne moss]

Tbh if Artemis becomes a nier 9s kinda companion and they ride in your ship or smt

2 max upgraded weapons

Legit can go afk

But they had the balls to take this kinda turn

Respect

[solar cairn]

http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html

It's called "The egg - Andy Weir" made in 2009.

(I'm really good at googling)

[solar cairn]

I found it!

[eternal radish]

Thank you for sharing 💖 And yep. The Travellers are very similar.

[solar cairn]

Like.. it's scary similar

If only I could ask an HG dev to see if that was some inspiration considering it was published in 2009

[eternal radish]

There is a lot of stuff I want to talk about but I don’t want to sound like a nutcase and be too off-topic here.

[solar cairn]

Fair

[pallid depot]

|| i want a new campaign thats like the real endgame and we escape to the real world, outside the simulation and this planet is an actual planet being slowly eaten by the black hole ||

|| like a half of the planet is being pulled away into the black hole||

[remote condor]

WHAT

What even is that

[unborn bough]

Hehe!

This is the true face of Vy’keen under their helmet

[remote condor]

Huh, interesting

[unborn bough]

I think it was their intended model or something but an extra layer was added. Not certain, but is sure is interesting.

[remote condor]

That is

Very

Fascinating

Yeah

[unborn bough]

It’s mentioned the Gek also have an underlying face

[remote condor]

Ok well I gotta see that now

How would be tho

[unborn bough]

I’ll try to clip through their face to see if they have it or not 😅

[remote condor]

Okay...

Do you think it'd be possible?

[unborn bough]

Clipping? Might be possible. The Vy’keen is a screenshot of someone clipping in the face. It was shared over on the Reddit.

I’ll try to do that with the Gek.

[remote condor]

Hmm ok

I'd like to see

[dreamy sorrel]

I love them

[unborn bough]

Will share images here if I am successful

[dreamy sorrel]

So beautiful

[unborn bough]

Hehehe!

[dreamy sorrel]

They will look even better I a maid outfit

And mopping up my dirty base floors with minimum unit wage

[unborn bough]

😆

[remote condor]

I will be looking

[nocturne moss]

So in the end ||do we help the atlas somehow or do we just accept the fact that there is a finite number of eternities to exist within the simulation until eventually the supercomputer gets consumed by the black hole||

[muted moth]

it's not clear what the problem is, and you don't have to spoiler mark stuff in here 🙂

[nocturne moss]

Oh

So we kind accept that the atlas is well

Gonna be destroyed

[muted moth]

or that we are looknig for something to fix it (some players have this as their background story as they go to explore)

[nocturne moss]

If I didn't select to reset the simulation, will I ever get that choice again

To choose a galaxy

I'll have to save edit it

Great

Oh save editing it doesn't work anymore

Even better

[muted moth]

you never get that choice but there are other ways to travel to other galaxies

via player base, ride with another player, core jump

you can of course save edit to put yourself in another galaxy too if you wish

[uncut sun]

what happens if i reset the simulation in the final interface quest

do i lose my progress?

@sharp inlet

[sharp inlet]

@uncut sun Nope, sorry for the delay. If you don't choose to birth a new star, you don't obtain the Star Seed blueprint, ever. Otherwise you lose nothing, but resetting spawns you in the next galaxy, all active tech broken minus Exosuit essentials. Plant a Base Computer, because you can teleport back and forth to any claimed b-comp you own cross-galaxies.

[uncut sun]

ok, thanks!

[solar cairn]

@soft glade so... At least with disconnection to the convergence... Which also worships the sentinels the "big fire wall" could be anything

[soft glade]

Yeah but didn’t atlas also get disconnected from the “big fire wall”

It’s why we run around and try to find a solution to “fix it”

Plus there are the convenience cubs

[soft glade]

Those cubes gotta be connected

[solar cairn]

Yeah, the cubes are basically their personalities and their connection to the hive mind. If I'm not mistaken. Which is why you need one to reset the scientist

[solar cairn]

I don't think Atlas got disconnected from that... I'm still not fully sold that they are connected to Atlas directly... Only a few individuals of each race could actually natively travel portals

[soft glade]

so the the sentinels and the ancient race

or the entity in the monoliths

[solar cairn]

The sentinels were probably in existence before the first "race" created at the same time Atlas was alive

So... Before the first monoliths, sentinels were around. But after Atlas was online is my guess

[soft glade]

well it wouldnt make since if the sentinels were alive before atlas because atlas allows and can create galaxies

but the big question is where is the world of the glass the outlaws and sentinels keeps talking about

[solar cairn]

Well, sometime later the sentienls gained sentience, and apparently free from Atlas control?

My guess is that the world of glass is the straight computer programming the Atlas uses.

[soft glade]

posssibly

but they also drop it too

[solar cairn]

But we only see the shards of glass that gets processed to random upgrades

[soft glade]

true but then it make you wonder if theres a glass world where the sentinels live

or galaxy

[solar cairn]

I mean... Probably

The sentienls are also how we learned of the glyphs

Before that, they were the only ones that can teleport, and even then. They STILL are the only ones to teleport without using a portal

And the travellers are the only ones to use the glyphs... Signaling a connection with Atlas, just like Sentinels

[soft glade]

thats a good point

there's so much protentional for this to be confirmed

[solar cairn]

Oh 100% but I doubt it will

[soft glade]

never know

theres still so much we dont know

like how living freighters are able to help us upgrade our living ships or how there's all these anomaly's that hold a race we dont know

[lapis holly]

so travelling between galaxies doesn't break everything any more?

[icy citrus]

It does if you core warp (and don't just package up your tech first)

[lapis holly]

I just did. It broke nothing.

[icy citrus]

Expedition?

[lapis holly]

yes

[icy citrus]

Das why

[lapis holly]

ah

sod

even moved my life support to a "better" spot.

[normal skiff]

So I just finished the 16/16 mission and when it asked what I will do before I reset the galaxy, I chose explore out of the three options. But now the atlas path mission is gone. Should I have chosen that option if I wanted to keep it open?

[solar cairn]

Reset the galaxy

[jolly pasture]

Does nada’s fate affect the game in any way?

Or do I choose whatever I personally feel

Wait not nada I meant Artemis

[solar cairn]

Maybe dialogue options near the end

[unborn bough]

Nothing affects the game in whichever way possible. Every galaxy exist, the universe exists, and our one true goal is to explore everything. All of the simulation, every fate, all of life, every machine, they stay as they are. Only a handful of entities know this is a simulation, and a few of them choose to ignore the truth, the past, to live in the present.

[uncut harness]

Finally found sential freighter only B class, but its my DeathStar

[fast crest]

Is that a spoiler?

[solar cairn]

And they really are uncomfortable around 16... The death number of everything

[solar cairn]

Short answer or long answer?

[heady wyvern]

Glass
Living Glass
Salvaged Glass
Seed of Glass
probably other things

[steady plinth]

polo and nada don't remember me 😔

honestly i did enjoy the ending a lot but man it's bittersweet

[solar cairn]

Depends on the type. Salvaged glass from sentinels is like... A window to their world

The Blighted expedition talks about it quite a bit. You can find fragments of that story in pirate systems if you talk to the console

[unborn bough]

You forgot the most important; Cake Of Glass.

[kindred sierra]

i passed from galaxy 42 to 43 it dropped me off at 3.4k from center. i thought ok this is strange but i guess its random where you get dropped off it could happen right. so i repaired what i had to thinking sweet fastest galaxy i ever entered and left.

then i jumped twice to leave galaxy 43 to enter 44, and i appeared here at 3.5k from center. is this normal is this how far ill appear in every galaxy from now on. anyone else have this once and or twice in a row?

[steel wing]

I know I’ve had that happen to me once, no idea if there’s a pattern or something specific that triggers it

[kindred sierra]

since i am progressing 3 lines at once to reach my ultimate goal i decided to leave the high line and go progress one of my lower lines and hope that what ever is happening stops by the time i get back to the high line.

cause landing at the 4k and less mark isnt fun.

i want to travel through each galaxy not just rabbit through them all

[radiant mirage]

what happenes if I reset the simulation and go through the galaxy center

[eternal radish]

You go to a new galaxy and all your upgrades will be damaged if you don't pack them. For the final encounter with Atlas please pick a ship and multi-tool you don't care much about

[vestal ledge]

Sucks that you can't hide your stuff in the tech slot category to prevent damage anymo

But if you're bent on jumping only then you just gotta package everything once.

[solar cairn]

You could have a dedicated junk ship and multitool that you can swap to, so you only need to package is your exosuit

[vestal ledge]

Ye

[eternal radish]

I always choose my ugliest ship for core jumping

[slender frost]

I felt the same.. especially the way it describes it “visit your old friends” and they don’t even remember you

Deep

[steady plinth]

yup, that legit made me feel like i was alone in that world

i wonder if that's what artemis would have felt if he was put in the simulation and found out what it was

[slender frost]

I had no clue what to do that was best for arty

I put him in the simulation and then told him that he was in a simulation

He seemed happy with it but I wish there was a place where you could visit him and maybe he trades cool little trinkets for selling that gets gathered from his simulation. Like a super remote little house or something

[solar cairn]

I let arty be free.

I was told near the end I was "capable of good and bad" freeing arty, but helping Apollo. Did anyone else get that dialogue at the end?

[slow hatch]

I honestly don't remember.

[eternal radish]

Never

[solar cairn]

Huh. Strange

[eternal radish]

But I never let Artemis die

[solar cairn]

I did... So maybe there is some story different

Look at that .... Choices do matter!

[eternal radish]

“Capable of good and bad”. Does that mean that killing off Artemis was the bad decision?

[solar cairn]

Maybe?

Or the good decision

Is helping Apollo good?

[eternal radish]

I can’t see why not

Apparently not helping him could lead to his death

[solar cairn]

But goes against Atlas

[unborn bough]

Ok. @abstract roost hear me out yeah!

In Greek mythology “Atlas” is the “load bearer”, or an entity who bears a heavy burden. Atlas also means a collection of maps…
Atlas also represents a male figure used like a caryatid as a supporting column. It is also called “Telamon”.

The Atlas we deal with in game holds the heavy burden of running, birthing, resetting the universe. The Atlas is the universe itself, it is everything the universe is, it is the only entity who knows everything and holds every map of the universe, of all of 255 galaxies, of every single planet. All 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 of them. This information is stored within Atlas, in a sense making it the “Atlas” of NMS universe.

When a new star is birthed, it is done so by raising 10 pillars using the “seeds of atlas”. That star is birthed in our galaxy, somewhere, and the seed of that star is presented to us. This seed is the smallest of spark contained within a field of unknown origins. It is the hope, the tear of Atlas. In our hands. Those pillars/columns of light represent Atlas, the one who is holding the supporting columns. Those pillars represent Telamon.

The sentinel Laylaps is constantly looking for “Telamon”, going to lengths by even call us -NOT-Telamon. Why would a sentinel call us “Telamon” until that is how the Aerons (sentinel race) refer to Atlas as? Why would they call it Telamon? Because Atlas is Telamon. It is a sentient being, the sentinels are sentient beings, all of them are connected, linked to each other.

This is what I think, this is my theory.

[abstract roost]

Makes sense

You certainly went above & beyond with this explanation 👍🏼

[unborn bough]

😅

[solar cairn]

If Atlas is Telamon... Where are the other 9?

[unborn bough]

What other 9?

[solar cairn]

Other pillars

[unborn bough]

Pillars don’t represent any form. They all combine together to create the star seed. They don’t have anything to do with Atlas itself. They are like ingredients to a recipe, the final product is the star seed.

As it is apparent from how each seed is needed to activate the pillars, and how each previous seed along with some other ingredient is needed to create a new seed.

[eternal radish]

I kinda wonder what the lore explanation is for the Normandy existing in No Man's Sky.

[unborn bough]

Mainly because the NMS universe is a simulation and Atlas knows about everything past, present, and future and there is a possibility that Mass Effect universe is also a simulation. Atlas saw the fate of the Normandy. Since everything is a simulation Atlas was able to summon the Normandy into this simulated reality from its original simulated reality right before the Normandy was about to be destroyed. The original Normandy was still destroyed, that state of existence happened in the Mass Effect as it was supposed to. Atlas didn’t intervene with that simulated reality, instead it heard the dying cry of the Normandy, felt bad about it because Atlas itself is dying and it knows the pain and suffering, it decided to create a complete clone of the Normandy in NMS universe. A clone so perfect it remembers the other life, the fate and the very final moments right before it’s death. But the Normandy is a machine, it is lifeless, just like the save beacon or the refiner our base scientist-entity adopts as their child. The Normandy cannot feel anything but it knows everything and the mind of the Normandy is connected with every Korvax who is one with the convergence, the Atlas, and the Aerons.

[eternal radish]

Okay. I haven't played Mass Effect though but I'm planning to so please spoil as less as you can 😬

Though it's interesting that theoretically, the Atlas can connect to other universes/simulations.

[unborn bough]

I haven’t spoiled anything about Mass Effect, except one simple angle 😅

But it’s practically out there, about the Normandy. :3

[eternal radish]

Yeah. Ships can be rebuilt, though. In Star Trek their ships get destroyed countless times and rebuilt, so yeah 🤷‍♀️

No biggie

[unborn bough]

Yes, this is the big reveal with Normandy. For Normandy to be canon in NMS, Atlas has to be an all seeing, all knowing entity and everything (every single atom in every single universe that has ever existed) needs to be a simulation.

This is why we can also mod the game. We are simulating our game in a way we want to see it.

This is why Save Editing is legal and not frowned upon.

[eternal radish]

If the Normandy can pop up in the NMS, other aspects from Mass Effect and other universes could theoretically also pop up in the NMS universe or vice versa.

[unborn bough]

Not only Mass Effect, Skyrim can pop into NMS universe and it will be canon. Star Citizen can be a part of NMS, RuneScape, Minecraft, any and every universe is a part of NMS.

[eternal radish]

So theoretically Turians, Salarians, Asari, Krogans etc could pop up in the NMS universe one day. I suppose. (Aside from irl copyright shit).

[unborn bough]

This is the beauty of NMS, this is the philosophical achievement of NMS.

[slow hatch]

It's a version of the World as Fiction theory.

[unborn bough]

Everything

[eternal radish]

And theoretically aspects of NMS, such as the Gek, Korvax, Vy'Keen and Travellers could pop up in the Mass Effect universe if the Atlas transfers them to that "place" /dimension.

[unborn bough]

NMS is not like any other game ever built, but every other game ever built is NMS.

[slow hatch]

Allegedly

[unborn bough]

100%

Yes, allegedly 😅

[eternal radish]

Btw I hope NMS and [Insert other franchise] cross-overs aren't too off-topic tho.

[unborn bough]

I don’t think they should be as long as we’re discussing the game being a simulation. If they are we have the mods and the admins to stop & guide us

[slow hatch]

(Stop and thunk us)

[unborn bough]

😆

[eternal radish]

I can see the Atlas, at the final moments of the 16 minutes, right before it's demise, transferring everything to another simulation or universe (such as the Mass Effect universe) before finally dying/shutting down, so everything that ever existed in the simulation of the Atlas can live on.

[unborn bough]

Yup! This is possible. Atlas can do this with the help of the traveler.

Atlas alone cannot stop the fate. It knows it will die. It is only keeping itself alive in a perpetual loop. Just like Artemis’s soul.

[eternal radish]

If only we can transfer Artemis to ME haha so they can make friends there and join N7 and such lol.

[unborn bough]

Hahahaha!

Who knows, the galaxy (universe) Artemis is at when they are in the machine can be ME. :3

[eternal radish]

Fan-fiction material

[unborn bough]

The world is a fiction, my friend :3

[eternal radish]

Maybe that's the Traveler's true purpose at the end. Not saving Atlas itself but saving everything the Atlas contains so all that the Atlas has ever simulated can live on somewhere outside of the simulation.

[unborn bough]

There’s a catch, nothing is outside of the simulation.

[eternal radish]

Well, outside of the Atlas simulation but in another one

[unborn bough]

Everything is a simulation, our version of Atlas being one such simulated entity.

[eternal radish]

Kinda like what you explained here

[eternal radish]

I know. I think I just worded it wrong 😅

[unborn bough]

This doesn’t break the one and only rule of the simulation. Nothing is outside of the simulation.

[eternal radish]

The simulation but the Atlas is a simulation

[slow hatch]

Except if we're a simulation, playing the game which is a simulation, then there could be a higher simulation that is playing us.

[eternal radish]

That

[unborn bough]

Atlas is already doing what it can, with the help of the traveler, to live in those 16 minutes.

[slow hatch]

Which is where we go off the rails for gaming, into the murky waters of philosophy.

[eternal radish]

Welcome to NMS, my friend 🙃

50% game, 50% philosophy.

[eternal radish]

With "outside the simulation" I actually mean "transferred to another one".

[unborn bough]

There’s a very fascinating thought experiment, and very interestingly so explained by cosmologist Dr. Anthony Aguirre.

Image there is a virtually indestructible box. Nothing can break this box, and nothing can come in or go out of the box no matter what happens(this is the condition, rule of this thought experiment). We put an apple in this box and seal it. Over time the Apple will start to rot and decay. Over a still longer period of time the Apple will decay to dust but energy can neither be created or destroyed and the Apple has energy. This energy would want to come out because of laws of thermodynamics (entropy), but the box is indestructible. This condition will force the energy to start fusing to spark a nuclear reaction because there is no escape from the box and the pressure is increasing and temperature is increasing. The box will become a nuclear fusion reactor. To an external observer nothing that’s happening inside the box can be observed because there are no leaks. No information can come out of the box, an no information can go in (remember the rule).

Once the fusion reaction takes place new particles will be birthed (sounds similar to NMS? Birthing a new star… just a hint). These particles will go through every single combination possible, every possible state that they can. Once again, nothing new is added to the box and nothing has been taken away, the total number of particles will remain the same as there were in the initial Apple (law of conservation of energy). Over time (because in the thought experiment time is the only infinite, we have a LOT of time) the Apple will reconstruct itself.

This is what I think is the state of NMS. There are n-numbers of possibilities, everything is within the grasp of the simulation (the box). This is why I said “everything is a simulation.”

[eternal radish]

And the apple is the data the Atlas contains and the box is the simulated universe the Atlas itself resides in? Because that how I image it.

[unborn bough]

Yes!

[eternal radish]

That's kinda what I meant but I suck at wording things which makes me often look like an idiot.

[unborn bough]

Now, in an interview Sean Murray was asked who’s the “God” in NMS. He was a little confused with the question but then it suddenly hit him. He said “We are the gods of NMS”…

He then proceeded to perform a gesture with his hand that became a meme.

So Sean and the team are the “gods” of NMS because they created NMS.

[eternal radish]

Breaking the 4th wall there

[unborn bough]

This is why atlas cannot act like a god, even though Atlas is revered as a god.

And since Atlas is not a god, it cannot create a “simulation” (the box).

It is bound by the laws of the simulation.

[eternal radish]

But entities inside the sim have created and do create simulations though.

I'm not just talking about Nada

I had to scan rocks for a Vy'Keen for data because they needed that to create a simulation of a universe

[unborn bough]

Nope. Everyone who have claimed to have “created a simulation” think they have done so, but in the end when we hit the reset button everything is wiped out.

[unborn bough]

That’s a different kind of simulation. The simulation we are talking about is where things have a will. The simulation the Vy’keen are working on is a holographic simulation with no will.

[eternal radish]

Anyways. I have to go now. Stuff to do. It's been nice talking to you 👍

[unborn bough]

Same here, nice chats 😄

Have fun, catch ya later \o

[unreal pilot]

philosophy

[wide temple]

How hard is it to understand when Title of the game says all you need to know. "No Man lives in this sky". This is a reference to "No Man's Land" from WW2 saying no man could cross this area. Reference is totally fictional to the WW2 spot. Quoted by journalist making a name up for a badly entrenched peace of land neither side could obtain.

[solar cairn]

?

[sterile quiver]

Spoil me

[uncut harness]

Its all a simulation

Nothing is real

[dreamy forge]

center of the galaxy is like a portal to a new galaxy

you can get there faster by jumping through black holes

[solar cairn]

Or use a portal

[heady wyvern]

By all appearances, Artemis was dead before you even entered the scene.

[eternal radish]

😭

[inland trellis]

R.i.p artemis 🙏🏼

I was so sad when I thought I was gon a find him and just found his mother fucking grave 😥

[supple bramble]

what has "glass" to do with sentinels

[sterile quiver]

Tf is artmis

[sterile quiver]

Vr

[eternal radish]

Play the storyline

[solar cairn]

Glass is essentially how sentinels see/operate/interact with Atlas and the simulation. It's why we get weird properties from them

That's my running guess

[slow hatch]

It also holds their drinks.

[warm oasis]

Artemis dies

[abstract owl]

Why is the NMS lore so wild

Like the entire shit is wild

[icy citrus]

No they don't

They were dead the whole time

[abstract owl]

Scariest bit to me is telamon

[icy citrus]

Don't mess with the Atlas, eh

[abstract owl]

The idea of

Your suit is actually an ancient unhinged consciousness

And it hates you

Thats scary

All the lore around null is wild too

Considering the implication he put every soul in the original universe in a mind arc and ate it

[icy citrus]

Nomnom

[abstract owl]

Makes sense atlas was like "wtf dude thats messed up"

[icy citrus]

Lol

[solar cairn]

Man, half of me still thinks Telamon is -Null-'s original name

[sterile quiver]

Artmis the space

Ship

[uncut harness]

Nobody talked about vr

[supple bramble]

so

sentinel is made to kill all anomalies??!?!?!??!?!!!!?!

[unborn bough]

We created the Atlas but the Atlas has created us. 💀

[supple bramble]

🫠

[craggy adder]

Just let artimis die... am i almost where i get the glyphs?

[unborn bough]

Yes. Artemis is already dead.

Why trap a ghost in a machine?

Let it escape this simulated reality.

Let it be erased.

[solar cairn]

We created the Atlas???? HMMMM

[unborn bough]

yup

Well “we” as in humans.

But atlas had daddy issues so it created “us”.

“Us” as in travelers. @solar cairn

[solar cairn]

I dunnnoooooo

[unborn bough]

read stuffs 😛

[cedar willow]

what to do after beating the game

[heady wyvern]

Not exactly a spoiler question, nor is this an easy question to answer. It's a sandbox game - everyone aims for something different. Best gear, best bases, most money, simple exploration... whatever strikes your fancy, really.

[cedar willow]

thanks

i’ll try to focus on my base

and farming

[warm oasis]

The atlas is black

[split maple]

will i lose anything during the last quest?

[thorny rover]

No

Other than your mind

Because of the godly music if you choose to "reset" galaxies

[split maple]

what would happen if i choose to reset galaxies

[thorny rover]

Well your exosuit, ship and multitool technologies will all break

Oh and freighter too

And you go to the type of galaxy you choosed

Also if you are to choose

Choose lush

[split maple]

okay sounds good

[thorny rover]

Oh yeah

Btw

Tech placed in the technology slot will not break

[split maple]

if i have a 2 multitool a will both break?

[thorny rover]

No

Only your equipped one

[split maple]

okay so imma equip backup ones so i don’t have to fix my main ones that i spent forever on

will the sentinels ever go away?

[thorny rover]

Nope

Never

They are like taxes

[split maple]

damn

do i have to fight anything during the last mission

accessing which throwaway ship i should get

[split maple]

i picked the green orb

what is the rubble of the first spawn?

what do i do now?

[thorny rover]

Not really

[thorny rover]

Well you've done the main story

This game is a sandbox

So do your wildest

Maybe do a farm for a resource

[split maple]

what’s the rubble of the first spawn?

i made a base in the new galaxy and now i’m teleporting to the euclid

[thorny rover]

Well it's where you spawned first time you played

You almost always spawn at a site like that

[split maple]

cool cool

[thorny rover]

Nothing deep

[split maple]

i’m doing some glyph stuff rn

j teleported to euclid again and getting some living ships

frigates too

[heady wyvern]

Rubble of the First Spawn... isn't that a space encounter? A large, vaguely Gek-shaped monument floating in space?

Anyway, you can't really do much with it.

[split maple]

how do i start the starbirth quest?

[heady wyvern]

Purchase a Void Egg from the quicksilver synthesis companion on the Anomaly. Costs 3,600

Or was it 3,200? Somewhere around there, anyway.

[solar cairn]

That's what I was thinking of.

Besides looking at it, it doesn't mean much unless you've actually read what the "first spawn" is

[unborn bough]

@merry estuary during the war the Korvax got overwhelmed and they needed to stop the first-spawn, that’s when they injected their nanites into the Gek. This made Gek a slave of the Atlas, in a way.

[merry estuary]

I know

[unborn bough]

Right?

So Korvax actually made the Gek their pet. 🤣

[merry estuary]

Well, the atlas pet

[unborn bough]

Atlas is Korvax

[heady wyvern]

If I'm recalling that correctly, they infused their nanite-blood into the next generation of gek in order to biologically engineer away the gek's tendency towards conquest. I'm sure the Atlas had no hand in the process.

[unborn bough]

Oh yes, I was messing with Shadow on the atlas part

[heady wyvern]

Or, rather, to redirect those tendencies towards financial conquest - the merchant culture of the modern Gek.

[heady wyvern]

Ah. Cunningham's Law in action.

[unborn bough]

Lol!

Why create a monotony when things can be chaotic?

[unborn bough]

Korvax prime was still destroyed, mined away, and multiple Korvax were still sacrificed. Nothing will change that past, but the present spawn of Gek is more docile and sterile thanks to the countless Korvax.

This part of the lore is very touching and emotional for some reason.

[solar cairn]

I don't know about slave, but they changed their behavior on a DNA level. Now their sense of conquest is financial instead of physical

It was a huge deal for the Korvax, because they worshipped the sentinels and in turn Atlas, and part of that we're to remain pacifist. So to change another creature's behavior was seen as sacrilegious but those Korvax were martyrs. Had to go against belief for the benefit of all Korvax and end the great disconnect

Man I know too much of the story, someone come audit me. I am bound to get something wrong

[craggy adder]

If i seek the final interface can I still do the atlas path, and keep playing? I am on permadeath

[craggy adder]

So im super confused. I clicked to seek the final interface and got sent to the next galaxy, or dimension mwahahahaha. But my quest still says it wants me to go to the center of the galaxy and i keep getting sent the "purge" glyphs. Is this normal? Is the end of the game going to the VERY last galaxy?

[raven gorge]

New player here.. and holy clown, the nms lore is a literal cosmic horror. Creatures don't scare me nor the expanse of the universe we travel but the implication of things like simulation, kovax easily trusting you with their life, etc, they all are scary.

[thorny rover]

That choice has no direct consequence

[thorny rover]

Actually a new star system

Yes it is normal

And no it isn't really

Your endgame is what you want to

There are 255 galaxies

So good luck getting to them all

[eternal radish]

There is no such thing as an endgame in NMS haha. Yeah the final minute of the 16 would be the endgame but we'll probably never see that happen.

[thorny rover]

No Man's Sky: Endgame

[analog breach]

Good name for expedition 16 😉

[hollow arch]

So if I reset ||the simulation||, it doesn't like reset ||my game right? Will I lose all my stuff?||

it keeps prompting me, as if to say "are you sure, are you REALLY sure?". Kinda worrying

[paper crag]

What happens if you do tho

[wraith comet]

Reset, it's arguably more annoying not to do so

[prime inlet]

no progress is lost. recommend storing installed exosuit/MT/ship tech/mods, or in the case of ship/MT, swap to ones you dont care about

[hollow arch]

ah kk, thanks, let me see if i can back out of the dialog

[prime inlet]

4 choices - 4 orbs, each orb representing 1 of the 4 galaxy types available in the game - the "resetting the simulation" in a new galaxy, i.e. spawning the player in a new galaxy

[wraith comet]

It's fine if you don't, you just lose the option of choosing which galaxy you travel to next if you refuse, but doesn't hurt anything in the long run

[unborn bough]

Also, in this channel you don’t need to use spoiler tag :3

[halcyon crest]

My S-class Derelict Freighter Notes here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897201809

[lime plover]

I got a glyph from warping

[wraith comet]

Ok, so are you on the purge mission?

[lime plover]

Yeah

[wraith comet]

Keep warping

[lime plover]

Oh

Ok

[wraith comet]

You'll learn a new glyph each jump any direction

! faq-portalglyphs

[cloud jolt]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Unlocking the 16 Portal Glyphs

Glyphs are always unlocked in the same order. If game lore interests you, progress through the main questline to learn them for free. Excluding that, you may also obtain glyphs from Traveler graves.
Either way, players can choose any of the following options to unlock all 16 portal glyphs in the save.

1. Through the main storyline, mission named The Purge: perform 16 warps in any direction, to any system (despite what the quest objective says).

2. Find Travelers in inhabited star systems, and for 100 nanites, ask them where they came from.
   This will add a HUD marker to a grave location on one of the planets in the system: follow it and interact with the grave to obtain the next glyph. The HUD can't mark more than 1 grave site at the same time.

3. Through the Eliminate Hazardous Flora Nexus mission, the player is led to a grave location. Build and claim a base computer near it, then reload the autosave, which will return the player to the Space Anomaly. This method can be used multiple times, before the Nexus cycles the available mission list. The player can then teleport to those base computers, and extract each grave's glyph.
   
   Run !Faq-Portals and !Faq-PortalUse in #bot-spam to learn how to find and use portals.

Contributors: bkay201#1943

[fervent cobalt]

I just had a Meta-Moment. Why is it that most of our irl media has the same factions with different names?

[normal skiff]

I just finished the part of the story where I was given a choice between a few different paths and I chose to keep exploring instead of the atlas path one and now the atlas path mission is gone. Is that mission just gone now?

Also, once I reset the simulation, will all of my side quests be gone?

[stark jay]

side stuff should stay but yes, you reached the end of the atlas path

[normal skiff]

Oh so it would have ended the same either way?

[mellow wedge]

ok so

im doing the purge mission rn and im at the final thing with the atlas and i wanna know if like refusing the atlas or resetting the simulation do very different things or does it not really matter what i pick

[muted moth]

they do very different things but if you choose the option to not reset, you have other options for doing... what the reset would let you do, via other game mechanics. so you can make either choice freely.

[analog breach]

This expedition can have cool challenge . Dont die so you cant get chromatic seal and no base computer soo you need to find the seal with other means and you get base computer after final meeting with leviathan. So basicaly you can do "no death " challenge

• no hud and it will become quite a challenge

[deft gorge]

Did I just read “purge”? 😂

Damn I got a lot of missions to do lmao

[muted moth]

well one death but yes, you can do that, it just tends to make the start a lot more grindy

[deft gorge]

Wdym start?

Explain yourself 🧐

[muted moth]

I mean that if you choose to not die deliberately in the beginning of the expedition to get the hermetic seal, you have to run around and try to get it one way or another, find a trade terminal or something that sells it, which can take 5 minutes or hours depending on your luck

[deft gorge]

So your saying you can prestige in this game for an item you can just buy?

[muted moth]

this is the expedition run only that we are talking about; players set themselves all kinds of challenges in the normal game, like "no HUD" or "no starter ship" or whatever they like

it makes the game more interesting to them

in this case, being able to get through the expedition with no deaths until the required phase 5 one that breaks the loop, well that's a special version of the run

but it does mean adding on a chunk of time to the run

[split maple]

i’m doing the living ship quest where i have to get souls but the waypoint is bringing me to travelers for glyphs, how do i get the souls, i have 66% done with the souls but all i’m getting now are glyph extractments

[muted moth]

(the above was resolved in the help channel 🙂 )

[deft gorge]

How do you leave the first planet or space station without the starter ship?

If you used the ship to go to the station and scrap it your trapped there

[muted moth]

you can't scrap your only ship, game won't allow it.

[deft gorge]

So how do you play without the ship?

[muted moth]

some people do a 'no starter ship' challenge where they don't repair it or use it or go look for it

they just do everything else on foot slowly

eventually they get funds to buy a ship, end up at a trading post and get aship that way

[deft gorge]

Oh

[noble surge]

i wonder if i can still wrap up atlas path while doing "The Purge" even though it would hardly make sense from a story perspective

[scenic turtle]

that sounds insane

[analog breach]

You should build item for the soul. You get the blueprint from monolith you visited earlier. Then go to glyph grave and get soul

[muted moth]

we got it sorted, the player had a dup soul chamber somehow or other. all good!

[versed owl]

do i save my friend Artemis or let him pass 😔

lol

[slow hatch]

It's entirely up to you. Do what you think is right.

[muted moth]

there are some decisions in this game for which there is no good answer

the choice you make will not determine what path you get to take in the game

it will determine how bad you feel about it, so just... do that 🙂

[loud onyx]

I wholeheartedly agree with aspergos.
Sometimes both answers are tough and you want to pick another, but you have to make one one way or another.

Id say go with what you think would be best for artemis, the option that goes with your morals. Some may agree, some may not, but its your choice!

[cyan spade]

Well shit, I don't really support the decision I made with the Atlas during The Purge

[muted moth]

just know that there are many other versions of yourself in the multiverse where other choices were made...

perhaps you will meet another version of yourself as the walls between dimensions get thinner, and trade stories

[tepid iris]

do we think the next update will be in February like Sentinel last year? 🙂

[grizzled rock]

How did that go?

[muted moth]

we know the psvr2 comes out in feb and on day 1 the nms version is supposed to be there, so I'll say yes

[outer sleet]

|| after reseting the simulaton or whatever are there any more story quests or no||

[fringe jetty]

Technically no, it's just a repeat. Side story quests though still exist (EX Pirate or Ocean related quests) unless completed.

[outer sleet]

oki

[muted moth]

and the atlas path too

[tepid iris]

Nice

I hope there won't be an Expedition tho so we can focus on Hogwarts Legacy tho hehe

[wet copper]

It would be cool if the devs swapped out what happens when you get to the center of a galaxy and go to another, with a random expedition like instance, instead of restarting the same scenario

[eternal radish]

Leviathan

[solar cairn]

@rocky moss there were a group of Korvax that went against their nature, walked into the first spawn, spawning pools - and essentially self sacrificed themselves to bleed their nanites into the pool changing their violence to more of a trading fiscal thing

They were involuntarily changed, but could be argued for the greater good

[rocky moss]

🤔

Interesting

So like they didn't change Geks forcefully, or?

[solar cairn]

Yeah, with the Vykeen hating them. The Gek attacked when the Vykeen were weak from the sentinel attacks

[solar cairn]

The korvax changed the gek forcefully. By changing the next of kin. Like changing the DNA of them

[rocky moss]

Oh

[solar cairn]

Instinct part though

[rocky moss]

I thought that they used some kind of telepathy or something

[solar cairn]

This I'm fuzzy on. I just know they were weak when it occured

[rocky moss]

I didn't exactly understand that part of lore while playing

Thx

[peak shale]

I have question

[solar cairn]

Most of the Korvax are connected to the Convergence. Like a hive mind, though some are exiled and "disconnected" from the convergence, which is huge isolation to the Korvax, like being exiled from your home.

[rocky moss]

But why?

[solar cairn]

When the First Spawn of Gek enslaved them, they melted their bodies and their convergence cube couldn't transfer to a new casing like a rebirth... That's the "Great Disconnect" is a huge genocide of the Korvax and the death of their planet

[peak shale]

When I was asked if I wanted to reset the atlas I didn't and did the option that lets you keep going without resetting the atlas, now I just have a prompt telling me to live while I still can, how do I continue progressing further in the story?

[solar cairn]

Go back, and reset Atlas. Other than that, it's normal. If you progress, you get to choose the next galaxy

[peak shale]

How do I go back to the atlas?

[solar cairn]

Maybe polo can show you to an Atlas interface?

I don't really know, I reset that bish fast

[peak shale]

I was scared it would actually reset everything

Does it?

I don't want to lose my S class solar ship

[rocky moss]

You will not lose anything

After reset you will discover one of 4 new galaxies

You can always travel between them

Only thing

After you get to new galaxy, all your technology slots are damaged

[solar cairn]

Nope. It'll just be a new galaxy, your keep all your stuff.... But it'll be brooooooken

[peak shale]

Oh god

Why

[rocky moss]

I think you can just use other ship and swap your multi tool

It should work just fine

[peak shale]

I only have one ship

[rocky moss]

Then you can temporarily remove expensive technologies

Or buy new extra cheap ship

[peak shale]

I'll do that

Because I grinded and made sure I had all S class upgrades

[solar cairn]

Or store your tech

Store it, and only keep core tech

[rocky moss]

I remember that i choosed "kill me" option or whatever it was while speaking to atlas

[solar cairn]

That way, nothing breaks but cheap core tech

[rocky moss]

I thought that he will actually kill me

[peak shale]

I'll just hunt for an exotic ship and not upgrade anything on it yet

[rocky moss]

At some point your story is finished

There is no additional storyline after you get to the new galaxy

At least for now

[peak shale]

Oh

[solar cairn]

I mean... If we die, he die

We get reset, he still alive. He alive we keep coming back

[peak shale]

You need a piece of the sun to make the remembrance which gets put in a technology slot in your exosuit @shrewd bone

[shrewd bone]

That’s the thing I have this tech for my exosuit which I can’t finish making

[peak shale]

That's probably it

[shrewd bone]

Cos it needs some sort of soul of sun or something

[peak shale]

Yep

That's it

[shrewd bone]

How do I obtain that?

[peak shale]

Idk

[solar cairn]

The remembrance.

[peak shale]

I haven't gotten that far

[shrewd bone]

Ah

[solar cairn]

And the Star seed boosts each other

[rocky moss]

Also the fact that Korvax' are the only one who are not described badly by atlas

Average korvax chad

[peak shale]

Based atlas

[solar cairn]

Well, the Korvax worship the Sentinels and by proxy Atlas

Though "curiosity kills" and knowing too much or no restraint isn't good either

Depends on perspective

[peak shale]

Me shutting down the sentinels in my home Korvax system

[solar cairn]

That statement, the Atlas is just stating objective fact with each race's flaw

[rocky moss]

Btw

Why did Korvax' stop worshipping Sentinels?

[peak shale]

Because screw the sentinels

Mfs attack you for touching a gravitino ball

[rocky moss]

I also would attack anyone who would touch my ||gravitino|| balls

[peak shale]

L

[solar cairn]

They technically havent

Unless they were disconnected from the Convergence

[rocky moss]

Why then sentinels are attacking my korvax settlement lol

Sentinels are stoopid

[solar cairn]

Well, you should visit some of the glitch planets and the circle buildings

Reason I say that, is they are logs to how Sentinels wipe out entire planets.

[uncut harness]

Did artemis just die? I got the coordinator to them just for them to not work and apollo? But is artemis dead?

[mint dune]

I wonder what the world of glass is that the sentinels talks about

[uncut harness]

Is it smth related between korvaxes and sentinels?

[uncut harness]

Are geks evil or manipulative??

[errant socket]

Wait so what’s the lore did the atlas make the sentinels? And what’s the glass thing

[errant socket]

They were but the korvax juice made them less so

[heady wyvern]

The sentinels are part of Atlas, yes. The best I could say is that they're a sort of diagnostic protocol for the simulation that, along with the rest of the Atlas, went rogue a long time ago.

Relatively speaking.

[errant socket]

Ohhh

Why did everything go rogue?

[heady wyvern]

The Atlas is currently freaking out due to its impending demise

We don't have any 100% definitive word on what, exactly, the Atlas is bothered by, but all we know is that it believes that it will soon die, and that death will happen about 16 minutes from now (relative to the Atlas's perception of time; to us, 16 Alas-minutes is probably equivalent to millennia).

[solar cairn]

Especially since it's theorized that Atlas is something along the lines of a quantum computer on a massive scale (still obsolete in it's world - while being devoured by a black hole)
It could very well be a millennia when 1 minute goes by in it's world or longer.

[heady wyvern]

No it's pretty much confirmed that the Atlas is a supercomputer simulating the universe in which we, the Travelers, reside.

[solar cairn]

But basically, there was a group that said if you could perceive incredibly fast (talking about the effects of super speed) then essentially you can live for eternity in your perspective, because you see things faster than normal every second would feel like a year

[solar cairn]

Yeah, I'd argue it's a quantum computer, not just a super computer.

[heady wyvern]

Same narrative effect

[solar cairn]

A quantum computer housing an advanced AGI

[heady wyvern]

"A computer of functionally arbitrary processing power"

[solar cairn]

But yeah. Point is, it can perceive reality hella fast and thus many simulations at once at an insane rate

[heady wyvern]

Same point different words, honestly.

One smart one blunt

[solar cairn]

Yeah, we are in agreement. I wasn't trying to say you're wrong

[eternal radish]

Powered by NVidia

[bright grove]

Should I am at the end of both The Purge and Atlas Path, which should I do first?

[heady wyvern]

Make efforts to complete the Atlas Path; The Purge will progress more-or-less on its own while you do.

[bright grove]

Like I said I'm at the end of both. I can jump in the black hole (Atlas) or reset sim (Purge).

I don't know which one to do first.

[heady wyvern]

Flip a coin, then.

[mortal vortex]

I got a game theory, i havent beaten the game yet. But i got this feeling some matrix shits going on

Its even been implied in a indirect way by my own character

I also feel like some demons souls shit is gonna happen with hirk, with it ending up being atlas.

I dont want anything confirmed or denied im just typing down what i think

[haughty fox]

Happy new year, space wanderers!

[solar cairn]

It's an interesting theory! Hope you enjoy the story! Keep aspiring to know!

[icy tartan]

Every time Artemis contacts me from her simulation talking about reaching me, my soul dies just a little bit. I shouldn't feel that guilty over a videogame character

[unique kraken]

Next time just be like

Ok nvm, my gifs are getting blocked by the bot

[eternal radish]

The right side of our brain, our emotional side, can't tell reality from fiction.

[solar cairn]

Hehe, left v right brain activity

OH IM GREEN!

[dire rune]

I have the purge mission available. How do I make sure I don't complete it so I can keep playing this save?

[heady wyvern]

Completing this mission will not end your game. Get it done.

[dire rune]

Thank I heard there was a mission that starts the game over for you

[heady wyvern]

This is the one they were referring to, but the consequences are less severe than you were led to believe.

You will be given the option to travel to another galaxy. You will have the ability to travel back. You will not lose any assets.

[dire rune]

oh nice awesome

[unique quartz]

Is anyone else here not a fan of the whole "the universe is a simulation" story for this game? I came up with a better story for NMS where it takes place in an alien universe that's near the end of it's life. The Atlas is a Lovecraftian God like machine that's trying to prevent the universe from dying but it realizes that it can no longer do that. I have some theories as to how the universe will end such as black holes, supernovae, a gravitational collapse, another big bang, etc. The reason why the number 16 is a reoccurring number throughout the game is because that universe will end in 16 million years. For us who are playing the game, that's a long time. 16 million years for the Atlas is mere minutes. The Atlas perceives time differently than races such as the gek, korvax and vy'keen. I personally like my idea better than the in game lore because it adds substance instead of everything being an algorithm

I think us witnessing the death of the universe in real time is much better than simply being a program. The reason why there's only 3 major races in the game is because they developed late into the universe's life where it's much more rare for intelligent life to develop. I'm trying to connect this game to real life scientific theories such as the Fermi paradox

[scarlet belfry]

na bro its gonna be that the atlas will die and new will be created

[unique quartz]

I want to believe that there's only 1 Atlas. When it dies, the universe itself dies in real time. Not in the simulation

The universe that NMS takes place in is outside of our own or possibly even before or after ours

[scarlet belfry]

the atlas has a creator

[unique quartz]

The universe being a simulation is underwhelming imo. There's no sense of danger when it's just endless 1s and 0s being generated. I prefer my canon that what we're experiencing is reality and we're living in a universe on it's deathbed. What happens after the universe is destroyed is anyone's guess. The 3 main races, the gek, vy'keen and korvax are all type 4 civilizations on the Kardashev scale. They're capable of traveling to other galaxies and conquering them

[scarlet belfry]

the travelers will find a way

they found a way to enter new galaxies

yeahh the player is probably the atlas

[unique quartz]

We can play as any race in the game. Traveler is merely a title because that's what we do. We travel the universe and explore it. We're simply average Joe's in this universe

[scarlet belfry]

why the traveler wake up

the player wakes up with no memory

waht he do to the space station people

what he do to crash

what he do to walk forward and lose memory

[unique quartz]

That's mainly there for story purposes just like how you wake up as a prisoner in almost every elder scrolls game. You can make your own story

[scarlet belfry]

and break his tools

ok

[unique quartz]

We decide what we want to believe. There's also a real life theory that we're in a simulation too

[heady wyvern]

That's kind of the point of the whole "universe is a simulation" angle here, yeah? Even if it is a simulation, that doesn't mean the universe is any less worthy of interest to the beings that are simulated. The world may be "fake" to our overlords, but it's our world, nonetheless.

[sterile hedge]

hey guys, i'm sure this has been answered many times before but i can't really find a clear answer when i google it. i'm on the final step to the purge and i'm somewhat hesitant to go to a new galaxy. i'm aware that i keep my current multitool and ship just all the upgrade modules will be broken. however, i'm wondering if i still keep my freighter and if im able to warp my freighter into the new galaxy.

[thorny rover]

Yes and the freighter will still be broken if the tech isn't in the tech slot

But you can summon it there

[sterile hedge]

thank you so much

[unique quartz]

@heady wyvern the simulated reality takes away from the mystery and danger that presents itself in a universe that goes on in real time

That's why I don't like the simulation lore. I'd rather it be unconfirmed and open for speculation than "It's a simulation and you're a program inside of it"

[fervent bluff]

Hello and Happy New Year

I can't find Apollo's Personal Forcefield anywhere in my inventory, I dunno?

[solar cairn]

Apollo's personal forcefield?

[craggy plover]

If it's simulated to be real, then is it not as real as real could be?

Lovecraft was a pretty gross person. I would not want too much of his perceptions in this game

Liking what you think is usually how that works though. usually but just like theories of games, there are different theories of life

[heady wyvern]

If I recall correctly, the personal forcefield is a blueprint technology for the multi tool

[fervent bluff]

But where is it physically. It's not in any of my inventories

[solar cairn]

It's simulated for a purpose. Not necessarily for what's "real"

[honest spire]

i think it would be very real. society itself is collective of individual experiences, so if a character, programmed, simulated or otherwise, their experiences would still be valid, as the factors are still there for them to experience

that’s just my opinion/theory though

[solar cairn]

It always gets messy at "define real"

[heady wyvern]

I believe he just gave you the blueprint for the personal forcefield.

Apollo's "personal forcefield" blueprint, not Apollo's personal forcefield.

[unique quartz]

What's wrong with Lovecraftian horrors in NMS? It doesn't make sense why people are like "ew Lovecraft"

His works paved the way for the sci fi genre

[fervent bluff]

Good morning folks

I feel like the game is broken when receiving quest items

Twice now I've supposedly received an item from an npc and can't find it anywhere in my inventory

[uncut harness]

its hello games

XD

[uncut harness]

dude is an awsome guy with a less than awsome name for a cat

i adore lovecraft themes

but there is somethign so poetic about it being a simulation for me

due to the fact that not only is there 100% nothing we can do

but also due to the fact that in the end, the entire universe means nothing

our character, the gek, polo and nada and everyone else are worth nothing more than a few 1s and 0s

most of the time i dont like the "it was all a dream/ simulation" trope but in this scenario i love it

as there is no eldrich monster to meet nothing more to the story

[turbid wing]

does every portal to a new galaxy always destroy everything cause after destroying the Atlas with 16 or whatever it completely destroyed everything. Ship, backpack and multi-tool. Or is just cause of it was part of a mission?

[heady wyvern]

When you enter a new galaxy by way of core-warp or Purge, yes. Any other way, it functions the same way as whatever means you used to get there.

(By "other way" I mean joining someone else's session, warping to a base [whether or not it's yours] in the other galaxy, etc)

[turbid wing]

is there any other way to enter a new galaxy then?

[heady wyvern]

Aside from the "other ways" I mentioned, no.

[turbid wing]

Alright, i’ll just fly a different ship then 💀

[heady wyvern]

You could hit up the StarCabs

See if they'll transport you.

!starcablink

[cloud jolt]

https://discord.gg/WgUdnbZJjh

[turbid wing]

well i sadly don’t have xbox live, so no multiplayer :/

[heady wyvern]

My condolences, then.

[turbid wing]

it’s fine! I still have to scrap a few ships, might as well wreck them before scrapping

[pallid depot]

if its a blueprint you need to go to the technology slot of where it belongs for example, the forcefield is a tech that must build in the tech slot of the multitool

[fervent bluff]

So the force field installed itself

The wording is fucked

[uncut harness]

ok thank fuck i can go back to the euclid galaxy after going to calypso galaxy

i heard that you cant go to euclid when in a different galaxy

but i guess that doesnt apply to the interstellar teleporter

[muted moth]

that's not at all true. as long as you hace a base in a galaxy and/or a space station from it in the list, you can go back there (p.s. put a base in calypso before you leave)

[uncut harness]

oh i left calypso through the space anomaly without setting a base or even entering a station

uhhhhh

[muted moth]

woopsie

well you'll have to hitch a ride with another player then if you want to get back

[uncut harness]

i mean i could reload my restore point

[muted moth]

up to you

[uncut harness]

but thats like 3 hours worth of progress and i dont wanna do that

eh its fine ill just do the thing you mentioned

shouldnt be ridiculously hard to find someone

and plus i need to fix ALL my exosuit, starship, and multitool equipment

so thats annoying but ive been stocking up on stuff in my storage so i should be good to go for at least most of my equipment

[muted moth]

repair kits for the harder stuff, can get 'em at outlaw stations if you don't have some socked away already

[uncut harness]

oh yeah i forgot about those

[calm stump]

I've got bases in the calypso galaxy

Can get you there if you want

[civic horizon]

There are multiple galaxys?!?!

Bro how big is this shit 💀

Nahhh that too big

[calm stump]

257

[civic horizon]

I just like flying around this stuff too crazy

[calm stump]

2 unreachable via normal means

Yeah ik

Or if you join someone who's there

[civic horizon]

So only 255 unique galaxys

[uncut harness]

when are u available to get me to calypso

[shrewd bone]

Idg the atlas path. I built the heart of soul and then was told to go through a black hole. And now I’m just going through black hole after black hole and nothing happens…

[turbid wing]

just keep going, it changes on ||the 11th atlas that you visit||

[shrewd bone]

I’ve visited all the atlases I think… because I have all the parts to make the thing. But now the mission has disappeared. I have a new thing on my MT - but im not sure what it does.

[turbid wing]

go to the quests, it probably switched automatically.

[shrewd bone]

Nope disappeared from quest lists entirely

[turbid wing]

really?

[turbid wing]

send me a photo

[solar cairn]

Pretty big

5 commas

[quick crater]

That's gotta be atleast a few hours worth of exploration

[turbid wing]

PFFT HAHA

more than a lifetime of exploring

[analog breach]

Procesed food. The better food the more he will like it.

[abstract roost]

Use NMS assistant app to get recipes for higher tire processed food

[solar cairn]

^ seriously, cooking gets SO in depth it's crazy

[shrewd bone]

So I birthed a new star using the heart of the sun at the atlas interface. Is that the end of the atlas path? And what does it mean?

And then it tells me to head to ‘the’ blackhole. But there are many black holes on my Galaxy map…

[errant socket]

Yeah what’s the deal with 16

[charred chasm]

Am I the only one who feels kinda bad using souls for the living ship

what do you guys think happens to the souls?

[solar cairn]

Well... Energy?

[solar cairn]

You'll find out, don't worry

It has to deal with Atlas tho

[thorny rover]

Well its converted into the living ship

They basically stop existing

Which I find its better

After all they were still living, trapped, a ghost in the machine

[thorny rover]

Well basically it's the number of minutes left before the Atlas Program shuts off, effectively dying

[errant socket]

I did the whole thing you can tell me

I just forgot

[solar cairn]

16 seconds before Atlas dies to a black hole

[errant socket]

Ok

[stable violet]

currently meeting the "the crimson eye"

feeling good

nvm maybe not

[shrewd bone]

What’s the point in atlas path? Just gives you cords for a black hole in the end. Which you can get from polo anytime anyway.

[eternal radish]

I felt afwul after that mission 😅

[uncut harness]

all answers are revealed through the atlas

[late umbra]

||got put in space, genuinely thought my game bugged during 16 // 16 but nope, apparently that was supposed to happen lmfao||

[unborn bough]

@uncut harness

On all exotic worlds the 'Last Traveller' can find Boundary Failures that tell the story of the multiverse from Telamon's point of view, a safety program of the Atlas.

One describes that the Sentinels did go out of control once before and the entire universe had to be deleted from the multiverse. This could happen again, but this time unchecked, as the Atlas is slowly losing control of its own defense program.

Some black box reports of crashed freighters state that they come from a universe with different skies. Some of them were attacked by Sentinels which during their last moments fought among themselves for an unknown reason.

It is possible that those are the rogue sentinels which annihilated all life in their respective multiverses and had to be deleted by the Atlas Protection Program 'Telamon' in return.

There. Have fun reading. 🙂

[uncut harness]

There we go, thanks for informing me about this matter, finally some direct proof.

It was not misinformation after all, it was just put in a very vague way.

[unborn bough]

It’s all out there literally

Just have to go that extra mile to find it all.

I did tell you go look into the lore but you straight up denied it. That ticked me off, no offense intended

[uncut harness]

Again, it is not my duty to prove what other people vaguely state. Imagine being in a tribunal and telling the judge to go read the "storyline" of why you didn't commit mass murder.

[unborn bough]

I can understand the overwhelming monstrosity a game’s lore can be. What didn’t sit well with me was that you didn’t try to find the answers outside of the given source and everything turned into an argument for some reason.

[uncut harness]

9000 pages lore sure seem worth it to prove what someone else said!

[unborn bough]

But anyway, this is the proof

[uncut harness]

#nms-spoilers message

[unborn bough]

Sentinels went crazy over the alleged “murder” of Korvax Prime.

They killed everything

There’s still a lot that has been written, but it’s beyond the scope of this channel too

[uncut harness]

Based sentinels

[rancid ether]

in game proof as well

[unborn bough]

HOLY!

[uncut harness]

That's pretty cool, just wish they weren't on my planet

[spring dock]

What does a korvax priest Entity do?

Like what are they in lore are they special or just a regular korvax

[eternal radish]

Sentinels go brrrrrr

Scary thing is they can do this again if they wish 👀

However I can't see some standard combat drones doing that. To be able to anihilate all life in the universe in less than an hour they must have had some mass destruction weapons.

[rancid ether]

i mean....lol

2000 sentinels spawn in and the simulation crashes to desktop haha

[muted moth]

settlement multiplayer bug??

[late umbra]

Certified geology canon moment

Also uh

how the hell do I just find portals in the wild

[rancid ether]

!faq-portal

[cloud jolt]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207>**Locating a Portal** <:portal3:592836099731357696>

• [Using Planetary Charts »](#nms-questions message)

• [Using Exocraft »](#nms-questions message)

• For uncharted systems, obtain the glyph address of that system and portal to it from another system.

• To fully use the portal network, the player should have unlocked all 16 portal glyphs.

• A portal is not the same as a teleporter. [See the differences here »](#no-mans-sky message)

Run !Faq-PortalGlyphs and !Faq-PortalUse in #bot-spam to learn more about glyphs and using portals.

Contribution by: bkay201#1943, Use Less Uk#7734

[solar cairn]

NOT THE BEES

[solar cairn]

This is fascinating. But, one thing that weirds me out is that Korvax prime is destroyed in all universes, so why did the sentinels freak out in just that universe?

[dreamy dune]

No idea

[unborn bough]

You’re familiar with the concept of parallel universe?

[solar cairn]

Yeah, that's the multiverse theory

The Atlas has ran the simulation thousands of times, it always ends in 3 races. Korvax, Vykeen, Gek.
Trader
Warrior
Scholar

The events that lead to it more or less haven't changed.
It could be that was the first time it happened?

[remote iron]

Is is possible to take the "Artemis Path" and the "Atlas Path" in the same playthrough?

[heady wyvern]

Recommended, even.

They're not mutually exclusive.

[solar cairn]

Yes

[loud ruin]

does accepting apollo change the story

[tidal knot]

Not that I know of.

Im a bit confused. I reached the center of the galaxy for the first time now ||and I got teleported to the 2nd galaxy, all my tech is already broken and now I can reset the simulation and chose another galaxy. Wouldnt that mean I skip the 2nd galaxy completely?!||

[heady wyvern]

Yes, assuming you went along without dropping a base there first.

[tidal knot]

oh welp

[prisma oak]

...wha...what?

[solar cairn]

I see nothing wrong

[heady wyvern]

Graphical issue. Harmless, but nonetheless annoying.

Also not the place

I honestly don't know which channel would best suit this image

[prisma oak]

👀 Wait, wha- oh. Not sure how I ended up in this channel. Probably from Discord search.

[heady wyvern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[prisma oak]

Anyway, did not want to be here!

[solar cairn]

Although, very useful for extreme milestones on expeditions

[uncut harness]

I hate the Gek cartographer

I wish to exterminate Gek cartographers

[obsidian hill]

Profile checks out lmao^^

[analog breach]

I dont like geks in general. But what can you do. Only gek i have is the specialist and he have his private , seperate cabin away from rest so my whole base would not smell bad 😂

[pulsar quartz]

Gek supremacy.

[solar cairn]

Could put him with the faecium and mordite plants. I have those locked behind a door at all times

[analog breach]

I dont like when my faecium plant smells like gek 🤣 . Geks mess with your brain using their pheromones. First thing you know , you bought stuff you didint need but you dont know why you did it.

[solar cairn]

Sounds like a skill issue

Just have a terrible nose and BAM gek immunity

Have the exact same response to smelling a steak, and walking past an open sewage tank

[balmy robin]

I believe I finished the atlas plan quest line(got the red soccer ball thing thats an installable technology, after crafting all the diffrent... they look like antimatter blobs) and entering them in the atlas pillar things. I have now seen two people have things I havent gotten in the atlas quest line, and im confused tbh

[tawdry topaz]

given i just recently had to ||put my dog to sleep||, the part with ||the machine and the Artemis-Echo|| be hittin kinda hard 🥺 Nada telling me I did the right thing felt a little better than hearing it from my mother

[heady wyvern]

Which items, exactly?

[torn token]

you know interesting thought...

What if we the PC/Anomaly are Artemis? 👀 ||in terms of the body, not the person||

The beacon you interact with states "Vessel Emptied"

[dark hill]

what if i like

threw a big rock

at the galactic center

would it reset the universe

[eternal radish]

I'm sorry for your loss 💖

[tawdry topaz]

🥺 thank you.

[balmy robin]

the star seed

[solar cairn]

We are

We are also Null and Apollo too

[heady wyvern]

Ah, yes. That item is actually a technology blueprint, which you receive if you chose to birth a star at the end of the Atlas Path.

[balmy robin]

what was the other option...?

and is it possible to reach the star I birthed, and do anything special?

[heady wyvern]

The other option is to not birth a star. However, it should be noted that your actions don't actually seem to alter the universe at large, like, at all.

[balmy robin]

so I finished the story?(the atlast path, specifically)

so im confused about what the story line was about

is there a recap somewhere?

[heady wyvern]

The Atlas Path is not the main story, but short story short is that the Atlas was essentially offering you, the Traveller, the chance to partake in the act of creation.

[balmy robin]

okay, thats what I figured

ik its not the man story

[abstract owl]

Is there any actual reason to ||reset the simulation||

I did it when i had the ps4 version

I play on pc now-

Not doing it seems like the right decision?

Nada and Polo ||remember you if you dont||

[charred chasm]

How are the Korvax powered?

what type of fuel do they use

[solar cairn]

Probably biofuel or with light

[solar cairn]

Eh, if you go to the next galaxy, they won't remember you so it doesn't really matter

[charred chasm]

which kinda makes sense due to how they can eat the same things we eat

but how do they consume it

[solar cairn]

Same way we do... Seeing as the anomaly never takes off their helmet

[charred chasm]

perhaps

[solar cairn]

Whatever the exosuit nutrient processor does.

Like, how does Ares, and Helios eat?

[charred chasm]

well it looks like ares has a mouth

just that it looks like a tarantula mouth

but that could be an answer for the travellers and other races without mouths

[solar cairn]

I dunno. Hyperion also has an odd face

Maybe they all bypass conventional eating methods? And just have a port to their digestive system via exosuit?

[charred chasm]

perhaps

Dang you creativity

how dare you ruin speculative evolution

[solar cairn]

Right?

[tawdry topaz]

i finally got to the Purge quest to get to the center of the galaxy, if i do it (while taking my heckin time to explore) will it actually delete my save? (like some meta games be doing)

[solar cairn]

Nah

No save will be deleted unless you yourself deleted it