nms-spoilers

[fast crest]

lore not real life.

[uncut harness]

Who says that isn’t canon in the lore

[fast crest]

Because none never mentioned it.

[uncut harness]

The ending of thr game was very meta. The traveler learning they are in a simulation

So you can very easily join the dots

[uncut harness]

Fair, canon was the wrong word to use lmao

[indigo notch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Itb3uhWjI

[cosmic geode]

Yo do you think there will be a steam cloud save feature with the switch?

And what about vr on the switch?

[tame grotto]

You mean cross-platform saves? I'm doubtful. At least based on how things have been with all existing platforms. We have cross-play but not cross-platform saves. The only exception is Microsoft with their GamePass Ultimate subscription which allows NMS cross-save between PC and Xbox consoles.

[molten karma]

Cross platforms saves was listed in a sales page once but I'm unsure if its accurate.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/No-Man-s-Sky-Nintendo-Switch/1665153014

Literally says cross save
Edit it seems its planned for Switch same with Settlements, multiplayer and cross play. This could be old news but its interesting how it list it. I know Amazons listing use to have this to.

So cross save might be possible for current platforms but not Switch at the moment or it'll be a update for later this year or early next year by the wording of it.

[glass flare]

I wouldn't say MP or settlements are "planned" for Switch, Sean was very careful in interviews not to promise any future features for Switch. they probably aren't even sure they can do them

[molten karma]

Just going based off the listing above. Amazon store page use to state it as well.

[muted moth]

what I did see on some footage today: there is connection to ods, you can see featured bases at the anomaly; comm balls from other players are visible. so I would guess you can see other player bases and they can see yours.

that's not the same as multiplayer of course but at lesat there is some sign of other players' presence

[buoyant hemlock]

No Man's Sky: Waypoint

[low egret]

new main menu screen looks sick

[muted moth]

wut? completely not in my list of possible names

[elfin arrow]

Please share ss

[low egret]

will do when i get back to it

here's the new catalogue & guide screen

[elfin arrow]

That heading looks cramped...

[low egret]

oh wait that was just the guide here's the whole thing

the catalogue is way sleeker, each of those big categories has its own set of sub-categories

collected knowledge stores lore you've seen

[muted moth]

ooooh this is grand!

[low egret]

journey milestones split into exploration and survival

[uncut harness]

Damn, can rename save files now.

[muted moth]

please tell me that's not trolling (about the saves)

[low egret]

discoveries & log menus look the same, just with a different bg & colors to match

[low egret]

nah it's mentioned in the patch notes ingame, can confirm

[muted moth]

OH YEAH WOOOOOOO!

[low egret]

will provide screenies soon™️

[low egret]

HOLY FUCKING INVENTORY

all my upgrades are obsolete

[elfin abyss]

you got trolled by hg

[low egret]

general slots removed, now tech and cargo are the only two there

[elfin abyss]

good

[low egret]

you can also filter items by type

[elfin arrow]

Aaa translation :((

[low egret]

and - here's the big one - SCROLL WHEEL!

[elfin abyss]

Basically the same as in the interviews. The last one caught my eye though. "Hundreds of quality of life updates".

[low egret]

they did give us more tech and cargo slots to make up for no more general tho

[tame grotto]

so nutty that perma's no longer listed as a game mode

[muted moth]

wait so I do not understand what is happeninf with the inventory there

[elfin arrow]

Interesting

[elfin abyss]

Can someone check the custom game mode

[low egret]

looks like it took the first however many upgrades i had in my inventory, shoved them all in tech, then obsoletified the other ones

guys...they made storage containers massive

also new icons for some stuff

[elfin abyss]

@elfin arrow

[low egret]

ya like storage? we got storage

[elfin abyss]

custom

custom ahhh

[uncut harness]

SAVES RENAMED LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO

FINALLY

[elfin abyss]

YOOO

[uncut harness]

Oh fucking nice.

[elfin abyss]

amazing

I have to check it out

[paper tinsel]

Here you guys go, all the settings

[uncut harness]

Thanks for sharing this @paper tinsel

[paper tinsel]

👌

[uncut harness]

Could you check 1 thing for me?

[low egret]

some of these new material icons look sick

less duplicate icons you have to hover over

[uncut harness]

If there is FSR in version above 1.0 in graphical options

[paper tinsel]

Difficulty settings are also adjustable in game

[low egret]

install technology is now left click! everyone rejoice!

[uncut harness]

Should be in these boxes at the very bottom of the screen with graphical options

[paper tinsel]

lemme take a look

[low egret]

no more accidentally installing stuff when you're trying to switch tabs

[tame grotto]

this share rocks. thank you!

[paper tinsel]

sorry its 70 Megabytes, OBS has no chill lmao

[fringe notch]

Wait, no PD

[elfin arrow]

Good update to get back in the game

[fringe notch]

does that mean no PD achievement?

[elfin arrow]

The usual tutorial missions were holding me back, now I can switch it off lol

[fringe notch]

I LOVE the changes to the settings

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[paper tinsel]

oh btw im on nvidia so i cant see it sorry

3090ti gang

[uncut harness]

Maybe PD got merged into Survival?

[low egret]

i just had a single ship fly overhead. i don't think they're locked to groups of 3 anymore

[elfin arrow]

I thought that happened before as well, weird

[paper tinsel]

My guess is that the permadeath achievement will unlock when you have the perma death difficult setting enabled

[uncut harness]

No problem @paper tinsel , thanks for taking your time

[fringe notch]

Not sure what this means to existing saves

[paper tinsel]

all graphical settings are the same

[fringe notch]

Im on a PD, but Id like to change some settings, but i may not be able

We will see

[paper tinsel]

New photosensitivity option??

[tame grotto]

that's awesome!

[paper tinsel]

👀

[low egret]

everybody definitely head to space stations after updating, i had maxed exosuit inventory and now i can buy more

[uncut harness]

Turn Anti Aliasing to FSR plz.

[paper tinsel]

"Summon trade rocket"

[uncut harness]

Ayyyyy 2.0

Nice!

[fallow beacon]

What is this?

[paper tinsel]

So theres a new exosuit upgrade.. trade rocket?!?!

[elfin abyss]

what the fk

[fallow beacon]

I have a question

Can you disable auto save? I heard the game now automatically saves every time

[elfin arrow]

This makes the game so much easier and less grindy

[elfin abyss]

patch notes and trailer come on

[low egret]

speeding to the anomaly ASAP

[paper tinsel]

im way ahead of you :)

[uncut harness]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO

[fallow beacon]

No clue for this then? Gotta wait some hours i think

[uncut harness]

THANKS A BUNCH ROAR

[paper tinsel]

Its a portable trade terminal

My guess is that its used in the new tutorial as its really cheap to buy

[low egret]

fair word of warning: inventory upgrade in anomaly currently makes an ear-destroying super sound

[dull badge]

ok now i have to try it

[elfin abyss]

Just like sometimes in endurance when entering a freighter

[obsidian prairie]

Thank you exoplanetary.

[low egret]

i feel like they changed the lighting here

graphics overall feel more crisp

[subtle gorge]

i am very sad to report that water has not been fixed

[elfin arrow]

Foggggggggg

[elfin arrow]

F

[subtle gorge]

but it's fixed in the switch version seemingly which is the funny thing

[low egret]

i am very sad to report that the QSC UI has also not been fixed

[elfin arrow]

What do you mean by fixed

[elfin abyss]

I hope it's next update

[obsidian prairie]

Anybody summon that big bad rocket yet?

[paper tinsel]

It appears you can change your difficulty settings on the fly with no consequences

[paper tinsel]

Im about to do it now

[rancid ether]

Inage quality is great with 2.0 but there is a weird motion blur effect ive noticed.
Reminds me of the PS2 emotion engine effect if that reference makes sense

[subtle gorge]

water shaders look better on switch

[dull badge]

rip my tech upgrades

[obsidian prairie]

Has anyone checked in on milestones?

[lost jolt]

i think the tech is a bug

[paper tinsel]

Looks like you cannot install tech in standard inventories anymore

[lost jolt]

oh, that may also be it

[elfin arrow]

Anywhere I can see?

[lost jolt]

that'd be very limiting for starships though

[dull badge]

this new inventory is gonna take some getting used to...

[uncut harness]

@paper tinsel is that customs

[dull badge]

they weren't kidding when they said they expanded inventory though. this is what every buildable storage unit has now

[low egret]

ah man now that my tech's gone my infra-knife accelerator isn't OP! inb4 death by pirates

[dull badge]

mf's stole my launch fuel recharger

[low egret]

YES IT'S JANKY

thing can fly sideways and get stuck on things!

[uncut harness]

Lmao perfect.

[low egret]

i'm getting planet crafter flashbacks already

[uncut harness]

Patch notes

[low egret]

i don't know what QOL we got but im heading back to base in case ladders dont suck now

[dull badge]

limiting tech to tech slots is brutal

[low egret]

also im not trippin there are definitely new graphics on the tractor beams

[grizzled apex]

Anyone check the space station cores?

[elfin arrow]

[grizzled apex]

Maybe save edit in a key and see if they do anything yet

[tame grotto]

Does anyone here have a screenshot of the starting window that shows single player vs mp, with lower right corner tiny number showing?

[dull badge]

you don't need to save edit them in, they're mission rewards

[elfin abyss]

Has anyone checked out relaxed mode

[grizzled apex]

Ah right, Pirate Missions?

[dull badge]

yep

[grizzled apex]

I forgot about that reward pool lol...

[rancid ether]

Ok so...dont try to expand ship tech slots beyond the current maximum.
You will be met by a very angry noise

[grizzled apex]

If station cores still do nothing, I'll be damn confused Sean 😅

[low egret]

unfortunately ladders still suck

[rancid ether]

Also, when expanding ship slots, you may have to switch back and forth after each purchase.
Gonna report it as a bug

[low egret]

looks like instead of auto/manual save we now have autosave and restore point

big W for savescummers

[paper tinsel]

still no first person warp

[lost jolt]

i was curious what the max capacity was, so i kept buying slots until i ran out of units (this was very tedious since i had to back out after buying each slot, its bugged atm)

[rancid ether]

Nvm, you have to do this to expand the inventory. Expect angry bees

[low egret]

oh yeah also you can change settings on an already existing save

[iron sable]

Stations core do things - use passport to restore reputation

[lost jolt]

after maxing inventory it started offering tech slots, then i ran out of units

[dull badge]

were tech slots increased?

[rancid ether]

Switch the inventory after each purchase, it moves to a new slot

[low egret]

to add on this: permadeath can only be enabled on new game

[grizzled apex]

Talking about their initial function with the station key, not the reputation restore. I know about that one

[lost jolt]

on the ship? i have 38 and no more units to keep going

the cap is 40 at absolute minimum

[dull badge]

ah, nice. at least you can get some of the tech upgrades back

[subtle gorge]

new terminus effects

[lost jolt]

i backed up my save before this, but i should have kept units to try to fiddle to see if i could have upgraded tech before maxing cargo

[tame grotto]

yay! thank you!

[muted moth]

wait a sec. if techis limited to tech slots, are we able to add more tech slots than the former max?

[rancid ether]

Ouch...tech is max 3 now it seems

[tame grotto]

yeah that's what i'm hearing

nutty

[low egret]

gonna check out the new tutorial real quick

[muted moth]

oh nooooooo

[rancid ether]

Yes, tech slots max is increased but the tech itself cant exceed 3 per type

[muted moth]

that's a screwup for sure

[paper tinsel]

not if my mods have anything to say about it

[rancid ether]

Yeah, all my ships are effectively reduced maneuv now. Kind of sucks but oh well

[muted moth]

I can't believe that's intentional, cutting hyperdrive range by that much for example

[dull badge]

sean giveth and sean taketh

[uncut harness]

Make the universe bigger by making travel longer.

Big brain move.

[muted moth]

or 'now you can only have three shields or three life support' in the suit.

[lost jolt]

OH

[uncut harness]

😐

Oh no.

[muted moth]

especially since the patch was pitched as you can upgrade beyond what you could before

[lost jolt]

when buying ship slots, you can click the slot you want to unlock

[uncut harness]

That's neat

[lost jolt]

you cant add a scrollbar with it though, so i cant buy any tech slots past 30 that way, fiddling more

[minor siren]

Wait there’s an update? I was just on yesterday

[low veldt]

6.9GB, what's the update name?

[muted moth]

steam has an update

"Waypoint"

[minor siren]

It came out today?

Ima have to download it once I’m off from work

[muted moth]

today, about an hour and a half ago

[minor siren]

Awesome 😎

[muted moth]

I can't wait to reorganize my container storage though, whew!

[rancid ether]

Quicksilver missions worth 400 now?

[muted moth]

oh are they???

[rancid ether]

Or was that from a previous update? I almost never do them

[muted moth]

250 is what it has been

[rancid ether]

400 now i guess

[muted moth]

wow

I wonder if the weekend mission amount will go up too

[subtle gorge]

a piece of tech on my ship just randomly became damaged after a space battle

[uncut harness]

👌 Awesome.

[subtle gorge]

i don't know if that's a bug or a feature

[muted moth]

did you lose shields and take a hit at any point?

[subtle gorge]

i think so yea

[muted moth]

might be intended then

[subtle gorge]

that's interesting

i like that if that's the case

[uncut harness]

@minor siren I don't get off till 6 am.. but my series X auto updates so it should be good once I'm off for likeay. An bornor two pay before I go to sleep

[low egret]

have any of you guys noticed any hazardous flora yet? haven't seen any since the patch

[muted moth]

it looks like one can take the overloaded modules and move them out to cargo at least

so they are not lost (and hopefully the 3 max thing is fixed)

[viral yarrow]

I wonder how many qol changes there are

[uncut harness]

@muted moth honestly I think it's more designed around the Exosuit do to how many protective things you can have for the suit.

[uncut harness]

At least 3.

At least

[viral yarrow]

title screens says it's in the hundreds lol

[molten karma]

Is it just me or are forest a bit more dense?

[uncut harness]

@uncut harness are there any patch notes

[knotty mountain]

no tech in gen inventory

hurts

[iron sable]

Hah now when you try to change stack size you are switching between menus

[muted moth]

nop atch notes on the site yet, I've been checking the page where they should appear

[uncut harness]

@molten karma ooooh looks like I'ma have fun Carbon Farming with these. Granted my first planet which I dubbed first base is a dessert

[lost jolt]

alright, figured out starship slot maxes (for an Exotic)

weird that the value decreased

[minor siren]

I feel that, I work 1900 to 07 haha

[knotty mountain]

holy fuck

[uncut harness]

Wait what do I get this right?

@lost jolt Dear God I'ma need more starship Augmentation

Imagine what Hualers can carry now

No more general inventory tab?

[lost jolt]

are there even 99 things to install to a starship yet?

[knotty mountain]

yep

[rancid flax]

i hate to say it but without a difficulty lock this update has ruined the game for me

[low egret]

woah

[uncut harness]

Only tech and cargo?

[crude pulsar]

Holy shit

[uncut harness]

@lost jolt I'll probably fill it up with Metal.plates I buy lol when I farm build

Lol wtf

[last moon]

TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.ATLASPASS4.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.ATLASPASS5.DDS

[viral yarrow]

did somebody mention more cargo slots

[knotty mountain]

anybody wants any pics of anything let me know

[subtle gorge]

ayy it's been awhile

[uncut harness]

Half of my general inventory in ezosuit is tech upgrades

[knotty mountain]

lol I feel you I only had two free slots

[viral yarrow]

any update to locomotion at all, on foot, flyin, whatever

[knotty mountain]

wdym?

there's an option for infinite sprint

[last moon]

~2,000 new language entries, new icons for some things e.g. oxygen, 1 new tech ?, ~34 new prod

[viral yarrow]

No no no I just ment if they improved em at all

[crude pulsar]

New tech?

[wraith comet]

I'd ideally like before/after screenshots of ship inventory/stats because if amount of installable upgrades is really halved stats should show it

[knotty mountain]

anything that's not greyed out can be changed at any time

[rancid flax]

not to be all doom and gloom but we REALLY need a difficulty lock

[velvet vigil]

For normal players, the ability to install mods to the general was really helpful to the ship stats.. if this was truly halved to "nerf" this, this'll be rough transitioning..

[subtle gorge]

update: technology in your ship CAN take damage if you're reckless

[rancid ether]

neato!
last location

[lost jolt]

standing at a station to see how many tech slots the ships land with; so far a shuttle was 33+23+0

[subtle gorge]

i ran into a few asteroids and my hyperdrive went down

[knotty mountain]

you can also name them now

[rancid ether]

yep, named the first one "Normal Main"

[knotty mountain]

in honor of this my main save shall be "Norman Mail"

[crude pulsar]

What is the hostile setting in starship combat? Does that make npc ships hostile to you ar just increase their difficulty?

[wraith comet]

I mean, I probably don't need 1200+ maneuverability on every ship, but it amuses me upgrading them that way with enough mods

[rancid ether]

I just named it something basic because i wasnt sure where the name would show up haha

[knotty mountain]

idk, there will certainly be lots of testing to be done

[rancid ether]

also i was way too skittish to test the update with my main survival save
im kind of glad i held off too

[velvet vigil]

Maybe, but it is a quality of life thing for some... like me.. I am not keen on bouncing around because of mouse sensitivity ... but also need to again fix the sensitivity when I get out. <:

[rancid ether]

that was one of the only things i really maxed out so i am a bit bummed but 600 maneuv is still acceptable

[crude pulsar]

600 is fine, but I will really miss my 1.5k

[velvet vigil]

Sharp turn on a whim was a perk to the solar

[crude pulsar]

Did anyone check if this update changed ship spawns again?

[crude pulsar]

Yup

[muted moth]

do we know what happens with the freighter upgrades???

[knotty mountain]

everything is just so slightly different it's strange

[iron sable]

Cannot change item's stacks :/

[wraith comet]

yeah, that's kinda my main stat chase too, but I haven't seen anyone show actual differences before/after on stat changes yet? so no idea

[last moon]

More new rocket locker files, look like effects for launch and landing

[uncut harness]

Lol wut

[velvet vigil]

And with organic ships massive organs slots, but three whole empty rows ...? Will they ever get more doodads?

[muted moth]

is the general tab gone there for freighters too, and only 3 tech upgrades of any type??

[crude pulsar]

Oof

[uncut harness]

This is starting to feel strange

[knotty mountain]

on ship exosuit and freighter all tech upgrades in gen inventory are uninstalled and you are given the uninstalled modules

[crude pulsar]

Yeah

[crude pulsar]

What the shit

[knotty mountain]

yep it's that way for all inventories

[muted moth]

so the freighter, there goes the hyperdrive range, fleet coordination and all that stuff. all cut by half. 😠

that's just got to be an oversight

[wraith comet]

this is what I have read but no one has the uh receipts as the kids call them yet I don't think

[knotty mountain]

my freighter is pretty new but

[crude pulsar]

angery noises

[velvet vigil]

Welp. There goes my survivability ... LOL xD

[rancid ether]

the modules are supposed to be the same one you had before, just uninstalled basically

[subtle gorge]

i love it so much tbh

[knotty mountain]

yeah I have an assload of modules in my exosuit cargo because of this lol

[uncut harness]

The new item icons feel off

[muted moth]

uninstalled, sure, but you can't put them back because 3 tech upgrades max of a ginve kind in a given inventory tab

well in the one tab you can put them now

[uncut harness]

No label, the amount font takes too much space

[rancid ether]

i had a handful, only thing i scrambled to fix was the personal refiner

[knotty mountain]

they just all uninstalled

[uncut harness]

Wondering if that's because of Switch display size / resolution

[velvet vigil]

General is where I have all my surviving mods and translators :I

[crude pulsar]

Thats painful

[wraith comet]

crazy

[subtle gorge]

i had some of that myself

[rancid ether]

get ready for some salty reddit posts, oml

[subtle gorge]

this update's weird so far

but i like it

[iron sable]

and we have still to press g like crazy to change weapon mode :/

[subtle gorge]

It's giving me more imsim vibes than usual especially considering you can actually damage your ship

[wraith comet]

not to mention on this discord

[knotty mountain]

updated affects on space station entry

nice

[crude pulsar]

Whoo yeah

[rancid ether]

I'm expecting the reddit posts to be twice as bad as the ones from Origins.
Some of those were just so so bad lol

[crude pulsar]

Im kinda pissed since I spent over 10 hours maxing out most things on my solar

But thats fine

[subtle gorge]

did some people not like origins or something?

[lost jolt]

maxed multi-tool (60 slots)

[elfin abyss]

YOU RUINED THE GAME I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU

[crude pulsar]

Beeg

[dull badge]

dang

[crude pulsar]

Whats max for starships?

[lost jolt]

110+99

[knotty mountain]

woah updated graphic affects on teleporters too

[last moon]

two new astronaut helmets it looks like
helmetsail and sailhelmhex

[knotty mountain]

they look so slick now

[crude pulsar]

Good lord

[rancid ether]

there were some folks absolutely raging because their favorite planet that they had just visited not even 3 years ago was different now 🙄

[dull badge]

how do you get more tech slots on ships? i couldn't go past 30

[subtle gorge]

ah, lol

[lost jolt]

yeah its weird, i had to max the cargo first

[subtle gorge]

cause i was going to say personally Origins is my favorite update

[dull badge]

ooof

[crude pulsar]

Upgrade its class

[lost jolt]

you can click to select slots, but you cant always add rows with it

[dull badge]

it's s class

[crude pulsar]

Hmm

[lost jolt]

you have to make it auto-select the 31st slot, which it wont do if cargo isnt maxed

[crude pulsar]

Bug?

[rancid ether]

when the slot row had to expand, did the sound effects start basically screaming at you?

[lost jolt]

probably

yes, i muted the game

[spiral gull]

Is the refiner duplication glitch patched?

[crude pulsar]

Probably not

[rancid ether]

scared me when it first happened lmao

[lost jolt]

multi-tools do it too btw

[rancid ether]

any inventory type from what i gather

[lost jolt]

i cant just max out my exosuit slots at a station, so im not going to do that one

[crude pulsar]

So the sound for upgrading is broken, no more tech in general inv and major increases to inv size?

[lost jolt]

yeah

[crude pulsar]

Also difficulty sliders

[lost jolt]

i dont even know what to do with this many multi-tool slots

[crude pulsar]

Install everything

[winter grail]

yes. 😄

[lost jolt]

i only ever really use the scatter blaster

[grizzled apex]

Just checked, station overrides are still useless

[winter grail]

aww man

[rancid ether]

install every weapon so you can accidentally switch to a weapon you dont like then fumble through the others to find your preferred one?

[crude pulsar]

Did we get an official flamethrower yet?

[wraith comet]

at least some things never change

[knotty mountain]

multi tools now have 6 more slots at max

[winter grail]

did they extend the tech inventory too?

[dull badge]

imo this update will be fine if they increase the maximum number of each module in the tech inventory so it's on par with before. was kinda lame having to fill up half your general inventory to maximize your stats

[winter grail]

well, atleast that is a bonus, when you cant use general..

[lost jolt]

24 -> 60 is more than 6

[knotty mountain]

there is no general inventory any more

[winter grail]

quick mafs!

[wraith comet]

yes, but apparently halved the number of mods you can install as now everything needs to go in tech

[knotty mountain]

omg every single chart will have to be remade...

[winter grail]

yeah, saw the screen, it is so weird to see it like that

[crude pulsar]

Fucking hell

[tame grotto]

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general inventory used to be the cargo inventory before tech and cargo inventories were added

[winter grail]

what chart are you talking about?

[crude pulsar]

Aight lads

Mass report the tech issue

[knotty mountain]

!hg

[winter grail]

can u send msg ling to the issue? i cant play yet and im here for short time

[dull badge]

i'll be fine with the tech changes if they let us have 6 of each module in the tech inventory

[knotty mountain]

anybody getting the issue where you go to buy a slot in something and it stays on the same slot?

[rancid ether]

buy slot, switch to the other inventory type, then switch back, buy next slot

[dull badge]

you can click on a different slot to change it

[knotty mountain]

for the multitool I had to re initiate the console again at the space station for every new slot because it wouldn't move

I just lost all of my units so fast guys

SLOTS

[crude pulsar]

I feel like imma wait for the first patch before playing again

[rancid ether]

always a good idea imo

[dull badge]

guess i will be getting some sleep tonight lmao

[winter grail]

time to hit up the farms again, or some traveler with beacon? 🤔

[rancid ether]

im not touching my survival save until the first patch

[crude pulsar]

Yeah

[knotty mountain]

I'm one of 3 people in the anomaly lol

we're all on steam

[crude pulsar]

New save time

Again

[rancid ether]

lol, im out of save slots

[winter grail]

oh hell no, i aint doing that

[knotty mountain]

definitely some graphical updates

[winter grail]

i've built way too big settlement for that

[knotty mountain]

some of the stuff in the anomaly looks so much cleaner than before

[rancid ether]

smoke effects in the anomaly are neat

[clear citrus]

frigate commanders in freighter

[knotty mountain]

yeah the blue when you enter the space station was updated and looks so good

and the teleporter looks amazing

[rancid ether]

also, i think theres a sign above the doorway next to the appearance modifier (in the Anomaly) that might be new.
i dont recall it being there before

[winter grail]

is that new or i missed it?

[clear citrus]

new i think

[muted moth]

they've been there since Endurance

[clear citrus]

squadron pilots walk around too

[winter grail]

also, is that new hermetic sseal icon?

[clear citrus]

werent they just random npcs though

[rancid ether]

bugged icon from the look of it

[winter grail]

not the beees!

[knotty mountain]

yeah the human shape one is new I think you're right, and the graphics on the display of the appearance modifier are so much nicer

[low egret]

been playing the tutorial through and it doesn't seem much different than before

[crude pulsar]

Send pics

[winter grail]

#nms-spoilers message

[low egret]

im prolly gonna head to bed though since it's 1 am and i have work in the morning

[crude pulsar]

That icon looks horrendously ugly

[knotty mountain]

I wish I could do a video it's so clean

[low egret]

it's bugged in the feed vessel spot, it looks same as usual normally

[tulip ledge]

What’s new

[crude pulsar]

Ah

[knotty mountain]

is this new?

[wind panther]

Yes

That's the rocket locker that has been in the last few updates' files

[knotty mountain]

super cool

[wind panther]

New helmet, solar sail, don't have a picture yet

[subtle gorge]

that was an Endurance thing

[tulip ledge]

Can anyone tell me in general what is new

[wraith comet]

I'll probably never use it, since it's not like you are ever far from a trade terminal if you have access to a freighter/station/outpost/base, but fun idea

[knotty mountain]

new helmet for which race? and what do the new sails look like?

[clear citrus]

ik the npcs were, but specifically frigate commanders and squadron pilots?

[wind panther]

Astronaut

[subtle gorge]

yea!

i noticed it on accident while playing endurance myself

[wind panther]

I need to finish unpacking the files and then load the PC file into Blender to look at it

[clear citrus]

ig i just never saw them

[tulip ledge]

Damn it I don’t finish until 3pm, can someone tell me what’s new

[vivid ingot]

with HDR on i have no FSR 2.0

[knotty mountain]

there used to be 100 milestones and now there's only 90 which category did they ditch?

[crude pulsar]

Hopefully scan animals

[tulip ledge]

Guys, plz, I am begging y’all

[latent heath]

oh god that is so much better

[tulip ledge]

I is so sad

[crude pulsar]

There is a lot

[tulip ledge]

Wait like a lot a lot

[covert swift]

Mostly QoL and custom modes

[wraith comet]

until you realize your installable mods have been halved

[crude pulsar]

Not that much

[latent heath]

NOOOOOOOO

[knotty mountain]

no new helmets anywhere I can see

[crude pulsar]

Isnt there 2 new ones?

[covert swift]

Good, won’t one shot every thing

[rancid ether]

ok but the whole 3 mods in tech, 3 mods in general bullshit was not helpful for new players at all though.
honestly, im pretty much okay with them streamlining it

[crude pulsar]

Or did I miss something

[muted moth]

if they put it to 6 in tech, then fine. otherwise that's a serious downgrade for a lot of things

[rancid ether]

not really, we were one shotting everything before

[wraith comet]

yeah, I'm mostly ok with it being the new normal, just wish they had let us use 6 in tech instead of halving it

[knotty mountain]

absolutely love how the lore section was added

[rancid ether]

the only one that kind of sucks was maneuv but they already made maneuv pretty easy to boost with other tech types

[obsidian prairie]

You know, it's times like this that I wish I was level 5 on the server to post some spicy memes about the update...

[rancid ether]

which leaves hyperdrive getting reduced but i cant say i ever warp further than 1500 ly in the majority of cases anyway

[muted moth]

freigher nerf with that, jetpack nerf, hypderdrive range on ship nerf... nope. not ok with it

[latent heath]

jesus have mercy on my wallets on the ships

[obsidian prairie]

Anyone find new mechanics that might compensate for half the tech upgrades?

[knotty mountain]

lol

[latent heath]

cronus touched yes no?

[latent heath]

i mean i techically agree for new players that dont have shields

[obsidian prairie]

I feel like the fast food review guy.

[latent heath]

unless they nerfed nanite gain

[hybrid pendant]

not recomended means u would DIE lol

[iron sable]

I wanna weapon wheel :<

[latent heath]

oh god did they buff xenos lol

[obsidian prairie]

This must be a qanon conspiracy. Only explanation for these "QOL improvements." (Tech nerf)

[wraith comet]

I agree, but if it's the new normal no choice but to adjust I guess. though I still think they could keep the same system and just give us 6 mods in tech and nothing would really change

[latent heath]

probably

[muted moth]

I'm pretty sure it's unintentional

[subtle gorge]

i mean im assuming there's something we're missing or it's a bug

[latent heath]

i mean it was kinda warranted with how overkill u can get

[muted moth]

the wording of the interviews, that you can upgrade your ship and mt even more...

[hybrid pendant]

oh god they just said fuck alien lol

[subtle gorge]

i agree there tbqh

[wraith comet]

I hope so too

[obsidian prairie]

"QOL improvements"

[muted moth]

I would just report it when you encounter the isue

as a bug

[tight matrix]

so was this a qol update?

[subtle gorge]

I mean i'm fine with them kind of curbing power creep

[latent heath]

mate point still stands upgrades pre patch would make ur character overkill lol

[obsidian prairie]

Already dropped a passive aggressive bug report.

[muted moth]

lol

[knotty mountain]

the term "drop pod" has been wholly replaced with "exosuit upgrade"

[muted moth]

well a clear bug report is probably best 😄

[mental socket]

Oh heck. Save renaming and saves even tell where the character is located!

so nice

[knotty mountain]

you now search for exosuit upgrade or get exosuit upgrade charts

[mental socket]

so Max upgrade limit is now 3 instead of 6?

[rancid ether]

yeah, i had already been playing with limited tech loadouts for the most part anyway.
i wouldn't be surprised if this was intended.

[wraith comet]

ugh, just be polite, the people dealing with that crap are just employees trying to make a living, they didn't personally make these decisions

[iron sable]

In sum - new update brings no special changes :/

[latent heath]

still want a update answer on cronus as someone thats still updating

[rancid ether]

the #nms-reddit-feed is gloriously salty already btw lol

[obsidian prairie]

I realize that, it was specifically directed at Sean and it was tongue in cheek.

[wind panther]

Here's the best I hvae right now for the solar helm

[wraith comet]

sorry, didn't mean to call you out specifically, just in general I'd like people to try and be polite is all

[dull badge]

We're activated indium farms nerfed? I never used them so I don't remember the old price but someone said they're 165 units each now

[molten karma]

Colors and terrain definitely look a bit different.

[knotty mountain]

that's rad is it anomaly or korvax?

[wind panther]

labeled astronaut but I need to get access to it in game to know for sure

[mental socket]

okay so

[crude pulsar]

Probably anomaly then

[mental socket]

apparently tech gets damaged when you hit the ground too hard

[crude pulsar]

Nice

[mental socket]

my jetpack upgrade broke in normal mode when I took fall damage

this is nice

[dull badge]

Time to stock up on repair kits

[crude pulsar]

Will my exocraft start breaking when I abuse them as usual?

[knotty mountain]

I just got a memory fragment from a traveller on the space station

[dull badge]

What does it do

[knotty mountain]

turned into an s class life support module

[latent heath]

sooooo bloody long updating and i gotta leave in 6min lol

[latent ingot]

Wait what.....is this accurate?

#nms-reddit-feed message

[wraith comet]

regarding the upgrade mod halving, I'm more concerned that I might have to start actually spending fuel on frigate missions instead of earning it, or that I can't send out a fleet of support vessels anymore

[rancid ether]

oml, they nerfed activated indium 🤣

[latent heath]

probably?

[latent heath]

...

[wraith comet]

currently, we're hoping it's a... bug

[latent heath]

WHY

[latent ingot]

Anyone know what's exosuit cap now?

[crude pulsar]

Good. That shit was disgusting

[knotty mountain]

a lot lol

[fast birch]

That's a yikes, that inventory update made both the ship and the exosuit a pain to work around

[latent heath]

i mean i agree but still, WHY

[dull badge]

Nah, takes awhile. You have to find an upgrade station for every slot

[latent ingot]

So if I'm reading right....you can add more variety of stuff, but limited to 3 upgrades per type and only on the tech page

[latent ingot]

Figures

[fast birch]

yeah

[crude pulsar]

Now you have to play the game to get money

[fast birch]

and this applies to everything

[latent heath]

so no double dipping tech and inventories? REEEEEE my overshields lol

[fast birch]

so goodbye multi purpose ships

[lost jolt]

99 tech slots, i think itll be fine

[latent ingot]

Yeah. Suit and ships I'm gathering. Why in any interation would I ever possibly need 60 MT slots? I don't even use 24

[rancid ether]

this was a full rebalance from the sound of it.
idk, use the difficulty settings to make the game easier or something 🤷‍♂️

[latent heath]

it took me sooooo long rerolling that shit why lol

[fast birch]

the only thing good is the fact you now have cargo on exocrafts

[latent heath]

i mean i know but still

[knotty mountain]

looks like 30

[latent ingot]

Ooooh even that useless pilgrim?

[lost jolt]

i was able to get 99 after maxing cargo

[latent heath]

we have had it for ages ???

or wait

[rancid ether]

theres a purchasing difficulty slider, so maybe that changes the AI value higher?

[latent heath]

exocrafts

[dull badge]

Everything will just have the same general build after this update, just stick everything you can in the tech slots and you don't have to make any sacrifices

[rigid willow]

Uh, seems indium is nerfed. Just saw a post on the reddit feed. Anyone double check?

[latent heath]

noooo i cant even check the update cuz gotta peace to work DAMMIT

[lost jolt]

too many weapons is counterproductive for rotating through, so i suspect most still wont use all

[fast birch]

the problem with that is that you are required to change manually every single tech you want to use at one point

[rancid ether]

honestly...long overdue imo

[fast birch]

I like the idea of mix and match, but this is way too much

[latent ingot]

AI: rekt

[wind panther]

A little more of the solar helm

[muted moth]

yse it seems to be

[latent heath]

MOTHERF-

[knotty mountain]

I'm excited for that helmet

might even stop using shroud of freedom for it

[wraith comet]

yeah, mostly agree, though units are so useless in the endgame it really only benefits new saves

[latent heath]

no expeditions for me :<

[latent ingot]

AI valves get a nerf?

[knotty mountain]

literally every guide we have is about to need to be rewritten

[wraith comet]

activated indium

[rancid ether]

probably just removed, if i had to guess

[latent heath]

god have mercy on the youtubers atm lol

[rancid ether]

i appreciate the ones that flag their videos as outdated.

[latent ingot]

Yeah, was just thinking of the other unit-heavy items that may have been strong candidates for adjustment

[knotty mountain]

even tho I'm having to go space station to space station, every slot I buy in tech for exosuit is only 100k units so super easy on the wallet

[latent heath]

screams in anger

but hey at least tech got REFUNDED

[wraith comet]

meh, it'll get them more views and more profit covering the changes, don't feel bad

[crude pulsar]

Make a new save untill this is resolved

[rancid ether]

it should be the same module seed as well, so the stats should be the same

[latent ingot]

All the time spent rolling those X mods.... cries in grah

[fast birch]

you don't get refunded, you can remove and place different modules

[latent heath]

its a bug?

[knotty mountain]

the stuff Travellers do on space stations is different

[crude pulsar]

So my perfect X class should stay X Class

[crude pulsar]

We arent sure

[fast birch]

you remember when people were annoying doing inventory tetris

[latent heath]

this is legit causing me a headache

[fast birch]

it's back again

[abstract roost]

Now this will take a bit of time to get used too

[latent heath]

f it goin to work

[knotty mountain]

call out

because NMS

[worthy hound]

So the gist is that they've stopped you putting modules in general but sufficiently increased tech slots in compensation?

[latent ingot]

Well, you still only get 3 in tech

[knotty mountain]

insufficiently but yeah

[wraith comet]

yes, but also halved the number of installable upgrades, so they doubled the space but halved installable tech, hence speculation it's a bug... or a rebalance, no one knows

[abstract roost]

🤔, where do I recharge my environmental protection?

[worthy hound]

How high can exosuit tech go now?

[elfin crown]

i hope there's a new update to this problem

[fast birch]

no, the gist is you have more space on tech and cargo, but you lose inventory, so you can't use all techs, meaning you have to change modules all the time for specific things

[muted moth]

hg pushes out bugfix patches pretty fast after updates drop

[knotty mountain]

so far the whole inventory rework seems intentional I don't think anything will come out to "fix" it

[rancid ether]

i dont think anyones reported yet.
mines at 26 slots currently.
Ship slots are insanely high now

[dull badge]

Not sure because you have to find an upgrade station for each slot but ships can have 90 tech slots

[lost jolt]

99

[rigid willow]

On a more positive note. Im kinda digging the new menu changes. lol Stuff is a lot more comapct.

[worthy hound]

No more from space stations?

[knotty mountain]

I'm thinking 30 by the look of it so far

[dull badge]

Just 1 per station

[abstract roost]

Oh I see

[fast birch]

I can confirm that exocrafts got a massive boost on inventory

and that includes the pilgrim

[rancid ether]

so the Colossus is pretty useless now
not that i found it useful before anyway

[wind panther]

they could easily change the overload to 6 instead of 3. It's just one variable that is commonly modded. I doubt they will, though

[dull badge]

Now, what will HG add to use up all this new inventory space? I don't see myself ever using it all

[knotty mountain]

*still

[rancid ether]

yeah, exactly lol

[lost jolt]

yeah, this would be overwhelming even with the 1.0 tech

[fast birch]

it actually has all slots opened

but still, no one uses that

[wind panther]

Though do you really need the exocraft storage with all the cargo suit storage?

[fast birch]

in one word....YES

[muted moth]

on the contrary, I expect them to do just this. otherwise they are halving jetpack range, halving shields and health, halving freighter warp drive efficiency and much more

[rigid willow]

Holy crap the inventory has filters now. lol Didn't know I neeeded this.

[latent ingot]

I only ever used it for storing plating anyway

[tame grotto]

that sounds amazeballs

[knotty mountain]

new sound when leaving teleporter now

[fast birch]

now you can use exocrafts for mining

[bright rose]

Yeah that would be ridiculous for them to insist existing players delete half their upgrades

[abstract roost]

Uf that’s really a big overhaul

[fast birch]

which is something

[dull badge]

You get this much storage in just a single container now, and you get 10 of these containers #nms-spoilers message

[rigid willow]

Who needs that many materials 😛

[iron sable]

before we can too?

[fast birch]

not like this

[latent heath]

Hence im afraid to play cuz sooo many upgrades need to be nuked 😅

[fast birch]

you have way more space to carry stuff around

[bright rose]

Heh I'm afraid to play right now too

[wind panther]

They had to have foreseen this reaction. I can't believe they are so bad at their own game that they weren't running 6 upgrade modules already

[iron sable]

what's the difference?

[latent ingot]

Are the days of 6400LY range freighters nerfed also?

[fast birch]

you have tech and cargo slots like the other vehicles

[bright rose]

Maybe I'll load my creative save and look around

[dull badge]

Yes, general inventory is gone

[lost jolt]

back up saves if concerned, its easy and handy

[latent heath]

Ill prob do creative to f around with inventory caps

[bright rose]

Aw come on 😦

[latent heath]

Did pre update

Dou didnt back up pre update hitting cuz i was sleeping

[fast birch]

also multitools a slight boost on slots

[lost jolt]

"slight" might be an understatement

[wind panther]

Has anyone checked if damage to ships damages their tech as well?

[fast birch]

I can confirm, collided with a asteroid, damaged my S tier hyperdrive module

[rancid ether]

someone posted a screenshot of their pulse engine getting damaged by asteroids
oh yep, right above me lol

[lost jolt]

are the materials to repair it the same as before the update?

[fast birch]

yes

[muted moth]

one would think that shields wouldprotect from damage

[glass flare]

is 4.0 out already or just on Switch?

[lost jolt]

wow, thats certainly a difficulty spike to keep the tech working

[muted moth]

only on steam

[dull badge]

We downgraded to star trek shields

[rigid willow]

Really hope they hotfix astroid damage out. lol

[bright rose]

Oh no, you mean you can't put tech in inventory slots anymore??

So this is deliberate?

[rigid willow]

Dont think so all mine were moved to tech.

[fast birch]

there's no inventory slots

[rancid ether]

pretty sure you can hotfix it yourself...with the difficulty slider options

[fast birch]

it's only tech and cargo now

[dull badge]

There is no Easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy, and there is no general inventory

[latent heath]

Uuuuu gotta be SHITTING me. THATS WHY MODS WaS REFUNDED

[glass flare]

no general inventory? wat?

[fast birch]

it's dead

[latent heath]

Gone

[glass flare]

in player inventory? or are we just talking ships/exocraft

[remote silo]

Where are the patch notes? lol

[fast birch]

EVERYTHING

[glass flare]

lol what

[latent heath]

Every damn inventory

[muted moth]

patch notes not up yet

[remote silo]

When do they come out?

[bright rose]

I hope base numbers are increased to compensate for no longer being able to use six upgrades

[latent heath]

I saw it for a sec and didnt realize

[muted moth]

later today most likely

[wind panther]

Patch notes are always really late. Usually after all consoles get the update

[remote silo]

ah okay ty

[glass flare]

i thought they wanted to make it easier for new players

[fast birch]

2 columns and 1 row, I think

[fast birch]

thats about it

[latent heath]

I mean it is if cargo works like usual

Ie no drop on death

[glass flare]

i mean cargo is one thing but there's so many one-off items we carry, how are they all fitting in just cargo slot snow

[uncut harness]

Is there any way to save my tech mods in general if I don't have the update yet?

[muted moth]

so if damage you take can break tech even with shields intact, does that mean the hazardous chompers can break your tech now? because I'm definitely not liking that if true

[rancid ether]

explaining to new players that they can have 3 of a type of upgrade in Tech and 3 inGeneral but blueprint upgrades dont count towards the 3, only the random ones...is making it easier for new players
that bs is annoying to explain every time and the reaction is almost alwyas the same ..."why did they make it so complicated??"

[fast birch]

keep them in inventory

[ivory plover]

is there any less inv slots then before

[latent heath]

They dont expand tech slots boi im 99% sure my inventory got overcapped and lost upgrades…

[ivory plover]

OH YOU CAM SCROLL

[uncut harness]

They'll get uninstalled

[rigid willow]

Hopefully with tech damaged they nerfed the repair costs. :p

[wind panther]

They should have just made it something like 5 upgrades for any tech category, and buildable count to the limit

[glass flare]

what the heck is that thing

[fast birch]

that's the point

[subtle gorge]

trade rocket

[wind panther]

Nice and simple

[subtle gorge]

they have as far as im aware

[rigid willow]

Thats good at least.

[subtle gorge]

and so far i've only had generic tech damaged

[fast birch]

they want you to install and uninstall tech modules

[glass flare]

huh is that replacing the NPC ships landing?

[uncut harness]

My point is that I don't want them uninstalled

[ivory plover]

Tech mods get turned back into installable

[knotty mountain]

just confirmed exosuit tech slot caps at 30

[subtle gorge]

no

it's a player thing

you can shove things on it and send it to space and get units

[dull badge]

You can get wayyyy more now. Ships can get 110 cargo and 99 tech slots, multi tools have 60 slots, and base cargo containers have 50 each

[subtle gorge]

its funky

[glass flare]

weird

[subtle gorge]

it's janky as shit tho

funny as hell

[rancid ether]

this to me tells me this was a balance overhaul
Because they intentionally limited those to 30 and removed the ability to install in inventory.
previously you could install up to 60 technology

[latent heath]

Me neither with the effort i made for that shit

[dull badge]

Did you max cargo?

[fast birch]

yes

[knotty mountain]

I called it as soon as I read the interviews I knew this update would be a gamble

[fast birch]

max cargo is 30

[knotty mountain]

working on it now but may take a while

[uncut harness]

Literally hours down the drain for nothing

I might just edit them back in

[latent ingot]

I guess I have time to make sure my best modules are already in tech so I don't lose them

[dull badge]

Maybe it's bugged like the ships then

[wind panther]

With 30 max tech, they could raise it to 6 for overload and make people make decisions

But then people will complain that there aren't enough tech slots

[ivory plover]

MY SHIP SPECS

AHHHH

[uncut harness]

People will always complain that there aren't enough tech slots

[rancid ether]

you should have the same modules as ready to install tech. it should be the same seed stats as before the update

[fast birch]

they didn't change the limits of overloading

[uncut harness]

Wait really?

It remembers the seed?

[wind panther]

Which is why I said "they could" 🙂

[rigid willow]

At least difficulty sliders are pretty robust in the options.

[abstract roost]

Well I see this will definitely require rewriting of those upgrade layout guides

[rancid ether]

it has the proc gen name of the technology

[knotty mountain]

yeah the old modules that you have are in grey and are exactly as they were

[uncut harness]

Oh thank atlas

I was terrified

[rancid ether]

just add a technology overload slider so you can all install 30 positron upgrades or whatever

[uncut harness]

Still absolutely mortified that my stats will now suck yet still somehow be top end

[knotty mountain]

I don't know if it's confirmed that the stats are the same so hold up

[uncut harness]

Could they not have made the removal of general an option?

[ivory plover]

This is all ui where is my red telescope

[uncut harness]

What's the name of the update BTW?

[wind panther]

Waypoint

[fast birch]

Waypoint

[abstract roost]

I don’t think there is anything to complain about? As I remember people wanted bit harder game

[ivory plover]

Not me

[rigid willow]

Im betting telescope is a new expedition. lol

[uncut harness]

Yes, but they didn't want their tech slashed

[wind panther]

Oh, if people can't have 6 of every upgrade, they are going to complain

[dull oasis]

What about people who don't though?

[ivory plover]

Better then this update

[dull badge]

Back in my day there was only general inventory... No tech or cargo slots, and now it's gone

[rancid ether]

and max 3 tech back then too (if that tech even had 3 upgrades)

[knotty mountain]

for those wondering about exo cargo I just hit 101 slots and still upgrading

[muted moth]

there was discussion of survival being toughened up. not normal mode though

[bright rose]

Uphill both ways

[uncut harness]

That's good

[rigid willow]

Jesus 101 exosuit slots?

[uncut harness]

I like to here that lol

I think I'm hanging on to a couple of exosuit slot modules I was gifted one time

[dull badge]

That means you'll have to find 101 upgrade stations though

[latent heath]

Yeeting every upgrade in a container cuz dont wanna loose the godrolls

[abstract roost]

One can’t get everything one wishes for. Then again if there is enough complains and possibly proves to really affect gameplay in unpleasant way I am sure HG will listen and rebalance things appropriately

[latent heath]

When i get home

[silent trench]

can you not buy slots from stations anymore?

[bright rose]

I want confirmation from HG that 3 is now the intended limit before I start axing upgrades

[dull badge]

1 per station

[muted moth]

1 per station and 1 at the anomaly

[elfin crown]

you still can but there's a limi to it

[knotty mountain]

how you gonna do that if they're already installed lol

[latent heath]

Refunded

[abstract roost]

Wasn’t that always so?

[dull badge]

Yes

[rigid willow]

I think they actually went in andoptimized the game a lot lol My initial load in is a lot faster lol

[uncut harness]

That scares me

[latent heath]

I opened game thats it

[uncut harness]

Honestly I'm terrified for the mess I'm going to load into

[dull oasis]

I haven't seen much of the update but based on what I have seen it seems like a really bad change. The point of the general inventory is to allow players flexibility of inventory space or sacrificing it for more technology modules. This whole thing means tech adjacency probably isn't that viable anymore. I really hope HG reverts this

[uncut harness]

Agreed

[dull oasis]

Weird that there's no update announcement yet

But uhhh

[glass flare]

the last time they did something like this was NEXT, and my ship upgrades were so messed up that I abandoned my save and started a new one

[knotty mountain]

the UI update to the start menu is beautiful tho

[wind panther]

Apparently, the point of general inventory was not to allow players flexibility like that, since they just got rid of it

[abstract roost]

Well storage containers are now absolutely massive

[latent heath]

Wait u choose one or the other? (Tech/cargo?)

[dull oasis]

😬

[obsidian prairie]

Man, my quality of life is so improved with the new "balancing."

[bright rose]

Like I said, I'd be more okay with it if I knew base stats were upped to compensate

[dull badge]

Yep, 50 slots

[ivory plover]

FIANNLY

[knotty mountain]

so since difficulty and game mode can be changed at any time does this mean no more separate universes?

[obsidian prairie]

Perfect. Now I can put all of my uninstalled tech mods somewhere.

[knotty mountain]

everyone together forever?

[dull oasis]

Also I don't really like the new inventory UI so much, not showing the names of items + bars of charge really sucks

[muted moth]

unsure of which difficulty sliders can be touched in which modes

[subtle gorge]

the trade rocket actually flies into space and seemingly goes to the space station

[muted moth]

this needs testing

[uncut harness]

So from what I gather, the balancing update has slashed the amount of tech you can have in half and not even touched the stats of tech on anything?

[abstract roost]

🤔, can someone confirm they can be further extended. Kind of see additional empty row

[dull oasis]

Since names is practically the only way to differentiate upgrades with the same icons

[fast birch]

yes

[abstract roost]

Uf!

[knotty mountain]

everything that isn't greyed out can be changed at any time on any game mode

[glass flare]

I feel like they should have kept like 10 general slots for unique items, things that would fit in a backpack. the whole idea of cargo slots carried around on your person was always dumb to me and made ship cargo slots kind of obsolete

[ivory plover]

How will we do multiplayer with all those options

[knotty mountain]

like I can just click through the presets and change to survival whenever I want

[dull oasis]

The inventory slots look like the ui from 1.0 almost

[muted moth]

thanks for this info, that's great

[ivory plover]

New fleet command Stations are sick

[worthy hound]

Ooh broken technology gives modules instead of nanites

[abstract roost]

Have a feeling that difficulty setting is kind of compensation for that 6 upgrade boost

[latent heath]

Idk if i feel this as better or for worse

[bright rose]

For a new player, it's better because it's less confusing.

[ivory plover]

How do o get that

[glass flare]

does "on-foot combat" affect creature hostility, or does it just override Sentinel behavior?

[patent kindle]

can i have my tech slots back

[bright rose]

For an existing player who spent a lot of time trying to get upgrades, it's a bit of a punch to the gut

[subtle gorge]

space station terminal

[abstract roost]

Probably not

[subtle gorge]

theres a separate setting for creatures

[patent kindle]

but my 6 stacks

[latent ingot]

I'm guessing sentinel since predators is a separate option

[indigo notch]

I just woke up

[knotty mountain]

not sure I'm trying to max cargo slots on exosuit atm

[indigo notch]

Whqtd i miss

[glass flare]

ooh nice! thanks

[silent trench]

since they have this giant menu of options now maybe they can just add on for the tech limit

[ivory plover]

WOAH 3 travelers in ONE STATION

[patent kindle]

well i suppose i dont usually use the likes but ill just dip into the anti overload mods

[ivory plover]

now that’s new

[indigo notch]

Oh i had max inventory

Is that gonna be bad

[abstract roost]

You may jet discover that there is some kind of compensation fort that and get used to it

[latent heath]

Ahem

[dull badge]

Kinda sucks that general inventory was converted only to cargo and not tech

[latent heath]

General = gonzo

[subtle gorge]

again we haven't seen the patch notes

[ivory plover]

Did they just invite me to their. Universe

[patent kindle]

mayhaps, but i dont feel like throwing out my 6's for 3s

[latent heath]

my bloody upgrades SEAN

[patent kindle]

also 600 ly off my jump range

hows they gonna compensate that

[dull badge]

Lol wait, my photonix core turned into an inventory item... I wonder if I could give that to someone

[abstract roost]

Oh look at that, lost 3k on hyper jump

Ah well

[indigo notch]

Huh so did you lose items?

[rancid ether]

dude what?
i think you might be able to actually

thats kind of crazy

[high ferry]

dupe it. Photonix Cores for everyone lol

[glass flare]

like because of no room, or they just retired it?

[subtle gorge]

no room probably

[abstract roost]

That still works?

[glass flare]

i still have mine on my launch day save first ship

[ivory plover]

WHERE IS TRADE BEAM

[dull badge]

I had it in general inventory

[uncut harness]

I'm not sure how much I like this update tbh

[high ferry]

not sure post update, but refiner duping still worked as of yesterday. I wasn't being serious though

[knotty mountain]

lmao I warned you

[high ferry]

if I want one that bad, there are other ways to get one lol

[abstract roost]

What do you mean? On freighter?

[uncut harness]

I can't even work out their reason for it

[rancid ether]

they went in and rebalanced everything to make things not so easy to break it seems

[uncut harness]

Some "balancing" update

[indigo notch]

Am i gonna lose items or nah

[high ferry]

this update fundamentally changes the feel of the game and player experience for the negative. I get trying to balance things, but they may have overcompensated

[abstract roost]

It’s a bit of a shocker isn’t it?

[muted moth]

if there are changes you think are bugs or unintentional or need to be fixed, please report them to hg

!hg

[cloud jolt]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[knotty mountain]

tbh hands on it seems like a really good rework to base the upcoming updates off of

[rancid ether]

activated indium value reduced to 165u
AI valves reduced to 12m u

[latent heath]

I have no fing idea i just checked exosuit i hope the rest of the 20+ upgrades got transfered to freighter

[random drift]

Seems clear to me. People were using inventory space to stack up a ridiculously huge amount of tech

[dull badge]

Nah, you just won't be able to equip everything if you had tech in general inventory

[subtle gorge]

honestly i disagree

[uncut harness]

That was a feature of the game

Getting high stat gear

[indigo notch]

Ah phew

[random drift]

Not anymore it seems

[muted moth]

hm so if you buy a ship > 50 million units in scrap, what do you get now?

[latent heath]

Me included cuz was seen as intentional by devs

[latent ingot]

Any chance you can remove photon cannon from ships now?

[fast birch]

no

[rancid ether]

idk, probably a handful of AI valves i guess

[knotty mountain]

seems like a little bit of that old "NO play the game the way I TOLD you TO" in it lol

[abstract roost]

Aha!

[knotty mountain]

Nintendon't rubbed off on them

[rancid ether]

theres literally a feature to play the game how you want

[high ferry]

pretty sure the reduced tech modules you can install effectively nerfs everything, so it's hard to NOT see that as a negative. New players might not realize what's been lost, but existing veterans will

[rancid ether]

like wtf guys

[uncut harness]

We needed the difficulty sliders, not destroying our heard earned tech, and certainly not both

[latent ingot]

Laughing in the rage of 1000 suns

[knotty mountain]

just a joke lol I actually like this update so far

[dull badge]

I just think this update is gonna destroy any build variety there was before

[knotty mountain]

presents a lot of good possiblities for the future

[random drift]

The patch notes did mention a custom game start mode was added. I haven't tried it though

[jolly thicket]

"not so easy to break" - breaks everything people have worked on for years on upgrades ...

[rancid ether]

oh ok lol, still though, some people are not understanding they can change the experience for themselves

[ivory plover]

I need to see my visited planets from deleted saves

I want to get back to pare

[abstract roost]

Did anyone check how upgrades stats work under this new conditions?

[fast birch]

it's the dificulty option at start

[rancid ether]

or rebalanced it in context with the rest of the game

[latent heath]

Mate the custom sliders is no excuse for slapping veterans inventory

[uncut harness]

I can't get back the literal hours I got getting my gear

All flushed down the drain for no obvious reason

[latent heath]

This

[high ferry]

yeah, but I don't care to fiddle with various settings. How am I to know how any particular setting feels and what the sweet spot is for me?

[rancid ether]

you made the decision to min max, thats on you

[abstract roost]

I mean to just assume it all got nerfed. Well probably it did but…

[rancid ether]

plenty of us said that wasnt worth our time and we didnt waste it

[latent heath]

Excuse me?

[humble nymph]

stacking 6 upgrade modules on 1 technology was not how things ever should've worked

[uncut harness]

I wonder how the duplication guys are handling the new update

[ivory plover]

If red telescope is an expo im going to kms Sean

[fast birch]

you still have the normal, relaxed, survival and perma

[random drift]

🍿

[uncut harness]

So it's my fault for not knowing what 4.0 would do?

[rancid ether]

excuse yourself

[wind panther]

The reason is pretty obvious. If it was intentional, then they obviously felt that having 6 upgrades wasn't good game balance.

[dull badge]

Ok well... When you throw people's work out in the trash, they're gonna stop playing the game

[lunar pond]

-Anybody knows the max size for the tech inventory?
-Anybody knows the tech redundancy limit for a given type of tech on the tech inventory?

[muted moth]

the decision to min max wasn't some anomalous game play behaviour though, it's expected that a portion of the community will do that and it's what keeps them in the game

[latent heath]

IT WAsS THE INTEnDED WAY FOR SIX YEARS

[muted moth]

(I say as not a minmaxer)

[rancid ether]

then stop playing, i dont know what else to tell you

[humble nymph]

its always been intended for 3 support modules to any tech

[random drift]

It's maxed out at 21 on my exotic ship, can't upgrade it further. However, exosuit tech inventory seems to have increased in max size

[wind panther]

Tech tabs didn't use to exist

[subtle gorge]

Honestly, maybe it wasn't? gonna be real?
The game's balance has been poorly maintained for six years

[knotty mountain]

I knew this update would be divisive