nms-spoilers

[sleek valve]

start a permadeath save

build a castle

[wraith flume]

that's the kind of things we can tackle in #nms-questions or #no-mans-sky 😛

or we get slapped here 😛

[brisk skiff]

Sure, we can go to the help I guess because I am kind of asking for help

[wraith flume]

sure

[deft sky]

I give up. What does one do with the star seed?

[wraith flume]

you install it in your suit

side by side with the remembrance

they hug each other and give you 3 more health points

but beware, max health points is 9, you may not need them if you have other tech that increases your health

[deft sky]

Ah, I installed it, but I guess I need to do more Atlas stations for the Remembrance?

[mortal musk]

Should i press the die button?

[wraith flume]

there is nothing in this game that's game changing

and you can always save and reload

[mortal musk]

i pressed it.

[wraith flume]

so feel free to try all the options as well if you want

good

you didn't die 😛

[mortal musk]

well it said i kind of died....

[wraith flume]

the remembrance comes out of the end of the artemis path

[mortal musk]

Also do you get a new multitool in the artemis path?

[wraith flume]

there is little to nothing you can screw up in this game

[mortal musk]

it siad idied and also didnt die

[wraith flume]

you may get offered a multitool along the story and with the base quests, yes

(even more than one)

careful that you can't scrap multitools

[mortal musk]

for free or same price as space station?

[wraith flume]

once you accept a multitool it will be added to your collection

[wraith flume]

you'll see, money isn't a problem in this game

please limit the questions here to the story-related spoilers (dialogues, what happens if and whatnot)

for the rest you can ask in #nms-questions

[bold pawn]

You’ve been lied to

[abstract roost]

What you mean?

[bold pawn]

There’s no eggs 😦

[abstract roost]

yes, that's what I wanted to prove 🙂

[uncut harness]

😭

[paper oyster]

they're immune to black holes, not going through the core

[wraith flume]

ah, that I misunderstood - thanks! (I never use living ships and living frigates, have to rely on third party info about those)

[paper oyster]

I honestly thought the same thing, but my recent trip through a core in one to brogoweldian had me learn the hard way XD

[wraith flume]

eheheh

trial and error FTW!

[crude pulsar]

@unique hornet its not actually that grand, its simply the glyphs for the system you had the encounter in

[unique hornet]

Oh ok, what is the point of it then?

[crude pulsar]

Or at least their hexadecimal codes

[crude pulsar]

Portals

[unique hornet]

Damn, thought i found something interesting

[crude pulsar]

You can also see said glyphs in picture mode

Its just something interesting

[unique hornet]

Also i found something else that was called anomalous space station, it was orange and stuff

It wasn't the nexus before you ask

[crude pulsar]

Did it spew numbers?

[unique hornet]

Might have, i am not sure, is it the same thing?

[crude pulsar]

No

That one serves no purpose

[unique hornet]

Damn, so far 0 on interesting stuff

Makes good screens though

[crude pulsar]

Yup

There are quite a few other interesting ones

[unique hornet]

Yeah like the ice thing you get quicksilver from

[crude pulsar]

Yeah

[mortal musk]

Once you get to the base part for artemis mission ever go to solar panels or should i unclock those now myself?

like is it ever an objective to get solar panels?

Or can i just unlock all the stuff now? does it matter?

[daring bronze]

@uncut harness galaxies have four types, of which control the planet spawn probabilities in yellow systems. Lush, normal, extreme, or empty planets, depending on color

At the end of the quest.

[uncut harness]

Hey what is the benefit of Changing galaxies

@daring bronze ok thank you

[normal flume]

i couldnt stop the korvax companion from dying 😦

[daring bronze]

No one can laddy

[normal flume]

this story mode is getting really intense

[eternal radish]

They're not dead, they're disconnected.

[dense phoenix]

Any infos about the 4.0 update been found?

[strong bluff]

Aside of some new GUI stuff for multitool or whatever it was in one video and somebody trying to translate lorem ipsum meaning... Probably not. 🤔 Unless I missed some new info.

[haughty fox]

He's not dead, he's in stand-by. Then you wake him up and he doesn't remember a thing

[normal flume]

i am at the point in the story where i think i either save artimis, or let it die in peace, will this decision affect the end of the campaign?

[wraith flume]

nope

the game really doesn't change

you just get to have somewhat different dialogues

and very little about that as well

some more interactions depending on which option you choose

that's about it

[normal flume]

alright, i feel the story is really good, our dialogue options i feel are lackluster

you said at the end we can pick different options on how we want to end the campaign, i thought it was just going to another galaxy, if i were to not choose that option, will i be able to go back and pick that option, or do i need multiple playthroughs to experience all of the options at the end?

[wraith flume]

nope, you have one shot at resetting the simulation at the end of the artemis path, I believe

resetting the simulation is only a shortcut to different "points" in the galaxy sequence though

nowadays you can get rides to any galaxy really easily

so that's not a big deal

so in the end you just have two "endings" there - either reset the simulation or not

though, @normal flume, consider that both options give you title and Steam achievements

so multiple playthroughs are necessary if you want to complete titles and achievements

[normal flume]

ohh so resetting does not bring you to the next galaxy in line, it brings you to a different point in the galaxy line?

[wraith flume]

unless you manual save and go back to pick the other option

[wraith flume]

only one of the options get you to Hilbert Dimension (#2)

the others bring you farther down the sequence

[normal flume]

ahh yeah i want to try to progress in order as much as possible, ill have to see what the options are when i get there and ill ask then

[wraith flume]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/The_Purge

the various options send you to the first of the matching color in this sequence, IIRC

so from there you can go to 2, 3, 7 or 10

going to 2 can be done even refusing to reset the simulation

as you can just go to the core and core jump

for all the other galaxies you need a cab (or multiple core jumps)

[normal flume]

can you go backwards on the list to undiscovered galaxies?

[wraith flume]

with a cab, yes

[normal flume]

say i reset and choose 3 right? am i able to go back to 2 when i get to the core of 3? i guess i dont really know what happens when i reach the core of a galaxy

[wraith flume]

when you core jump you just go +1 in the list

[normal flume]

cabs are npcs that i can interact with thatll bring me backwards?

[wraith flume]

so to go back from 3 to 2, you'd need first to teleport to 1, and then core jump to 2

[normal flume]

ohh

[wraith flume]

nope, cabs are other players

which help you getting there by letting you join their save

or something

[normal flume]

okay so if i want to go to number 2 i would pick reset and then normal galaxy, orrrr i could decline to reset and get to the core of euclid myself

[wraith flume]

correct

both options will give you a title and an achievement

just manual save before the last bit, then reload and pick the other option

[normal flume]

i think i might have spoiled a little too much for myself when you brought up simulation, i have an idea but im not 100 sure i need to stop getting ahead of myself and just ask as i progress

[wraith flume]

eheheh

it happens

[normal flume]

thanks for the help though haha ill catch you back in the help channel

[wraith flume]

yw!

[wraith flume]

don't worry though, actually doing it and reading the messages and seeing the animations is still something that has its effect, even if you know exactly what's about to happen

[normal flume]

that is true. im thinking at this point in my playthrough i am going to upload artemis, it seems cruel in the long run but these decisions are tough down at the core level.

i really should not have done permadeath though, i should have played survival or normal where i can freely go through without having death and manual saving as a constant worry

[wraith flume]

ah, dang

I forgot about that

yes, you have limited options with the single reload slot

can't do some of the techniques you can do with manual + auto reloads

you could just set this apart and start over in survival 😛

[normal flume]

yeah but i just treat that .bat file you gave me as a manual save. i think i will start over in survival after i finish this campaign, that way i can have a permanent save that i know should never be lost

[wraith flume]

yep, you can cheese the two endings rolling a manual backup

[glass flare]

resetting the simulation and going to a new galaxy does give you access to additional terminal lore found in some of the locked rooms in planetary buildings. but other than that yeah there's not any big reason to do so

[wraith flume]

almost - it's the Remembrance that gives you access to the terminals, and you can get it unlocked even if you refuse to reset the simulation

[glass flare]

hm I'm not sure it was always that way, but maybe I'm misremembering

[muted moth]

Spoiler warning: Fixed an issue where some players were not rewarded the Remembrance recipe at the conclusion of the story <-- Atlas Rises Patch 1.35

[rotund dawn]

Why I gave the heart of sun to atlas and now I have to give it again

[icy citrus]

You don't, that last step can be done as often as you like or not at all

[wraith flume]

I seem to remember that if you don't give birth to a new star you won't get the Star Seed blueprint - at least that could be a workaround if the first time you decide not to give it birth, allowing you to do the last step again (yes, crafting all the seeds sequence again) to get another chance at giving birth and getting the Star Seed blueprint

[icy citrus]

Maybe yeah

I always made one so dunno

[chilly merlin]

Ok, so no real point in repeating this over and over and over again?

[icy citrus]

No

[wraith flume]

correct, you only need to do that once pretty much

or twice, if you didn't give birth to the new star the first time

[chilly merlin]

Well....

[wraith flume]

are you having troubles with it?

[chilly merlin]

Any significance to the new star?

No, I've done it like 5 times

Lol

[wraith flume]

nope, just flavor

if you have the star seed tech, you're done

[chilly merlin]

I just didn't know if there was a significance to it.

I know you get the star seed which gives you extra health and that all black holes show in the galaxy maps after. But I just hop of I'm not thrilled with a galaxy lol.

[wraith flume]

you can be totally fine with staying in Euclid all the time

you can find everything (almost) there, and there's plenty of room

(what you can't find is just specific models that others have found in other galaxies, you'd have to hunt them down or get a ride to portal there)

ah wait I totally misread your last sentence - you do hop galaxies if you don't feel like staying in one - totally fine 😛

[twin dome]

Is there a reason living ships look like infested planets?

[barren hazel]

Guys what should I do 😦

I can't decide if I should kill Artemis to free them from being lonely forever, or to put them in a simulation

Such a tough choice

[fervent cobalt]

You get titles for each way, so there's that

I personally always kill Artemis for 2 reasons. 1> They are already dead. 2> They only get a single system, not a galaxy. How quickly would you get bored without a warp drive?

[rotund dawn]

Do any nms choice even make a difference?

[fervent cobalt]

About the only one that really makes any noticeable difference is the end of The Purge

[barren hazel]

Yea I'm going to let them die, I feel they would just be as scared and lonely as they are when they contact me now if I put them in a simulation :/

Thank-you 😄

[fervent cobalt]

A few of your decisions during the artemis/apollo/~Null~ quest line(s) change some dialog during The Purge, but no actual difference

[fervent cobalt]

wow, think about it... Telemon experiences every traveler death on every planet in every system in every galaxy

[tawdry mica]

any mining leaks?

[swift torrent]

can anyone tell me what i did wrong to not get the "Traitor" title? i denounced the voice of freedom, a solar ship approached me and i killed all the pirates, made an autosave and manual save right after that, and ive reload every save and crashed the game and it still will not give me it

[fathom ruin]

that was linked to an expedition im pretty sure
you get another title for completing the quest

[muted moth]

I think the traitor title is supposed to be what you get if you denounce the voice of freedom

I got it and the opposite one (doing different things at that point on different saves)

if someone is not getting the title after doing that, it's a bug

[swift torrent]

its literally the only title i dont have, even the expedition ones, ive tried it on two different saves and ive followed the minimal advice ive found on reddit, and i still cannot get it. people have said its bugged to where it wont drop a banner telling you youve gotten it, but that youll still get it

[swift torrent]

Ive completed every expedition, its not from them, its from the rebel star missions from the pirate update, i have the other title "Heretic" from my main save

[covert swift]

Yeah 4.0 this year

[uncut harness]

what the HECK is this?

"boundary failure"

can't seem to do anything with it

[latent ingot]

An inactive portal. You get a little taste of lore from them

[uncut harness]

yeah it looked like one. Can it be activated later?

Or is it just lore?

[muted moth]

you just read the lore. there's one mission (the living ship one I think) which uses one of these at one point, otherwise it's just lore but you can get a player title for reading all the entries.

[uncut harness]

huh i didn't see anything where i could read

damn now i won't ever find it again heh

[muted moth]

there are many on any exotic world

in the above picture, the part with the support piece underneath on the right, you go over to that piece and there's a little panel you can interact with

[uncut harness]

okay good to know for next time

[ornate crest]

It might be a placeholder for some event in the future, "Return of the Sentinals" or something .. Who knows...

[misty vector]

Planets with “reality glitches” (covered with hexagons) are literally saying that universe is simulated and simulation is broken or its something more ?
If so, lore is pretty shallow - “game inside game” thats all.

[muted moth]

there's a lot more to it than that, but you need to read the boundary failure lore and the lore form all the monoliths to get a more complete picture

[misty vector]

After 100 hours I see same info in monolith dialogs with small randomisation, it repeats about “first spawn”, so now I just skiping all. I expected to see store developing, new facts etc, but nope. Also “Travelers” started to repeat same messages, probably we have only ~20 premede Traveler’s dialogs.

[muted moth]

you should do the plaques for each faction, all three have a different set

[eternal radish]

Somewhere behind the wheel is a terminal and when you click on it you can read the logs.

[haughty fox]

They have a purpose of showing you a journal. These logs were written by Telamon, the AI in the exosuit. This is the only way it can communicate beyond the programmed phrases the exosuit says

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Boundary_Failure

Basically, it was an AI tasked to keep the Atlas in check for any bugs, but then the Atlas went totally rampant and confined Telamon in the protagonist's exosuit, to make sure they survive harsh planets and get to the Atlas in the Artemis path, so it can ask them to do the sim reset

Is that correct, everyone?

[glass flare]

It's sort of a weak rationale. Atlas has already shown it has the ability to warp players instantly, there's no need for the player to travel manually to the center. Nor is much pressure applied on the player to do so. I don't personally find Telamon a very interesting part of the story, probably in part because it doesn't have the agency to do anything. Maybe I would care more if Telamon/exosuit had more of a personality

[haughty fox]

Maybe it will. Although it has no reason to happen

[mint cradle]

if I "reset simulation" when talking to the atlas, will I lose everything?

[icy citrus]

No

[haughty fox]

Except your house if you did the base quests

[icy citrus]

You don't lose that.

[haughty fox]

What? Even if it's a totally different galaxy?

[icy citrus]

Correct

[haughty fox]

Oh, right, the portals at the stations

[icy citrus]

That changed awhile back, we can now travel galaxies easily

[haughty fox]

What galaxy type is Euclid?

The "a little of everything" type?

[icy citrus]

Normal, yep

[urban storm]

this is a question? ||guys what happens if i follow the story and reset the galaxy||

[frank gale]

well

once you reset the galaxy

you will be transported to a new galaxy

all of your tech not in technology slots will be broken

[urban storm]

whill i lose all my progress?

[frank gale]

no

you will be able to teleport to all of your bases in the old galaxy

[urban storm]

and will i be able to go back to the euclid galaxy

oh ok bet thx

[frank gale]

be careful though

repairing your tech is extremely expensive

[urban storm]

what would i have to repair?

[frank gale]

everything not in your technology slots, so that means exosuit, ship, and MT

[urban storm]

is it worthdoing this?

and if i put all the recources needed to do this in my inventory first will that come with me?

[frank gale]

your resources will come with you

are you doing the artemis path or are you about to warp to the centre

[urban storm]

im doing the purge

progress to the center yes

[frank gale]

right

you're in an atlas station of some sorts

[urban storm]

not yet i think im about to travel to my last atlas station

ive had to craft three different things now

so this one should be my lat

last*

[safe kiln]

just three?

[urban storm]

idk how many things will i craft?

@frank galeim inside it now'

[frank gale]

well it's your choice

it's not up to me to decide your journey

[urban storm]

bro im lowkey scared now

lol

[urban storm]

@frank gale i did it

[uncut harness]

so for the atlas missions... at some point you just get glyphs by just going near the station. is there any need to land? is the interaction with the interface just lore?

i'll probably do it, but curious how that interacts

[heady wyvern]

Let's break this down:
• During the main quest line stage "The Purge," a countdown will progress as you warp between systems.
• Every time the countdown progresses, a glyph is granted.
• "The Atlas Path" is an entirely different scenario and has no bearing on this process.

[uncut harness]

ohh

thank you

haha, i thought it was the atlas thing because i just jumped from atlas to atlas...

[lilac walrus]

When u finish the main story line, do u always go to the Eissentam Galaxy ?

[eternal radish]

No. It depends on what "colour" of galaxy you choose. Teal = normal. Blue = empty. Red = harsh and green is lush. Eissentam is lush.

[uncut harness]

uh

i just read on the wiki

"When playing on any of the Game modes with a storyline, completing New Beginnings and choosing to go to a new galaxy, appears to render any non-explored galaxies to be unreachable via warp after that point. "

is that true?

oh non-explored.

what does explored mean?

?

[lilac walrus]

So i choose the best one, cool

[vivid mulch]

What

I didnt know that

I wish I did

[uncut harness]

i see now.

but i am still puzzled about this: When playing on any of the Game modes with a storyline, completing New Beginnings and choosing to go to a new galaxy, appears to render any non-explored galaxies to be unreachable via warp after that point.

when i finish new beginnings and choose a new galaxy, i cannot go back to bases that i plopped down from a multiplayer session in a different galaxy?

[hushed robin]

i am not sure what there were trying to convey - nothing becomes inaccessible.

• you can teleport to stations and bases in your originating galaxy. (suggested to drop a base computer in the new galaxy first so you can return.)
• once you're in the originating galaxy, you can then reach the other galaxies via core jump.

[uncut harness]

ah, well it said that on the wiki

i don't know if it's outdated or i just understand

[hushed robin]

yes, not sure what the last wiki editor was getting at

[uncut harness]

ah maybe like.. if you finish new beginning choose a new galaxy, you can't directly warp back into a different galaxy?

but thx for clearing that up

[hushed robin]

maybe, but there are dozens of less confusing ways of saying that. 😏

[uncut harness]

i concur :)

[eternal radish]

That was me at the beginning. One of the reasons why I started over haha.

Although you can still travel to the core of a galaxy and warp to the next one.

[vivid mulch]

yeah

[icy citrus]

The only thing you can't do is warp backwards in the numerical order. That is always the case though, whether you warp to a new galaxy or join someone or use the Anomaly teleporter to visit a base. Core warps only move forward.

[eternal radish]

Hence why I always place at least one base in every galaxy I come across.

[uncut harness]

Ohh, I see. This is about core warps. That makes more sense

[haughty fox]

Is it worth it to level up the guild reputation with their quests?

Because I don't see any benefit coming

[icy citrus]

Higher rep, higher ranked missions, higher payout, better gifts

So if you do missions, yep

If you aren't in to doing missions, nope

[uncut harness]

mhm... what will this trigger?

eh

i guess i can check the wiki

guess i need the first option to get the blueprint

[uncut harness]

what bugs me about the artemis plotline is that after you put him into the sim and decide to not tell him the truth, at sometime later he behaves as if you did.

i guess in the NMS universe that makes sense..

realities break down and all that

[frank gale]

I just want to fight the various hostile entities that are hinted at

[eternal radish]

Artemis finds out eventually

But hey, we're in a simulation too 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I live in a simulation
And so do you

[muted moth]

there are some player titles for that, if you're into those

[latent heath]

I just think that may have been oversight on hgs part

Cuz if thats true kinda odd to give us a choice even if that is how it canonncally plays out anyway

[uncut harness]

Yes, could be easily fixed by just changing that dialogue line.

[latent heath]

Kinda agree there

[carmine plaza]

i chose to put her in the simulation and telling the truth, but i kind of regret not putting her to sleep

[uncut harness]

so last glyph found but when you finish that mission you have to reset and strand in a new galaxy. Do you have to finish that mission to use the glyphs on a random portal?

[muted moth]

you can choose not to reset if you like. there are other ways to get to other galaxies. at the point where you have the reset choice, you have all 16 glyphs and can use them on any portal you like, once you choose to reset or not.

[uncut harness]

haha, yeah that came too late. I appreciate the answer though.

Next reset I'll know to not bring my best ship and multitool. That shit is expensive 🤣

[muted moth]

yep, move all crucial tech to tech slots ahead of time too. and if you plan on doing several hops, it's nice to just do them all one after the other, and repair minimally or not at all in between.

[uncut harness]

yeah, i know better next time. Fortunately I am a hoarder and my exosuit inventory was prepared so I was able to fix most on the spot

But resource wise it was a bit painful

i also learned that freighter cargo spots are not seen when repairing exosuit items, kinda annoying

gotta transfer them to main cargo

[muted moth]

just get somewhere safe and then you can take your time to repair

stocking up on repair kits is a good thing too. run enough derelicts and you'll have a huge pile

[uncut harness]

oh right .. d'oh

i forgot about my repair kits

they are still sitting untouched hahah

[muted moth]

😄

next time!

[uncut harness]

welp. indeed.

[dense phoenix]

Luckily living ships don't get damaged last time i tried
Been a while but the only thing that usually breaks is things like thruster trails and bobbleheads

[muted moth]

tech in living ships in the storage sacs will get damaged. it needs to be in the organ chambers.

[ornate crest]

I would simply just do it and enjoy the result.

[ornate crest]

literally

[ornate crest]

It doesn't really matter what you choose, because the reality is a simulation within a simulation within a simulation ....

[obsidian prairie]

The only simulation within the simulation is the solar system that Nada offers as a place for Artemis. I couldn't do that to her.

[haughty fox]

What's exactly the deal with Ariadne? Are they building up something about her?

Like, A Trace of Metal was Thetis' moment to be a partaking character, will the other iterations have their own chapters?

[eternal radish]

Ariadne went out on their own to investigate something but instead of them an imposter returned.

So the Ariadne you see in the Anomaly isn’t the real Ariadne.

[haughty fox]

So is she "dead" like Artemis?

[eternal radish]

Probably. Fate unknown.

Kinda makes me wonder, what if the Artemis we interacted with also was an imposter and that the real Artemis is still out there? Or they are one of the many Artemis iterations?

[haughty fox]

I think he's the latest Artemis

In the sim where the protagonist is the anomaly traveller, he and Apollo were buddies for a while (or thought they were, because Apollo Is physically in another iteration and he can speak to us because the sims are overlapsing), then he decided to find out new places by following the Sentinels through a portal and died

[icy citrus]

You are all dead

Brain bottled into a sim, just like some did with the echo of Artemis

[haughty fox]

Brain bottled? But doesn't that imply that each character derives from an actual entity in the real world outside the Atlas?

[icy citrus]

Yep

[empty escarp]

@unborn raven Just look up “main quest choice nms”

[unborn raven]

thanks

[empty escarp]

4th option for me

[unborn raven]

so basically it's whether you want to explore new galaxies or just hang in euclid

[empty escarp]

Yea ig

It’s pretty beneficial to go to other galaxies tho

[unborn raven]

yeah seems like a no brainer

[empty escarp]

Yea… I Made the wrong decision in my quest tho

I didn’t get to pick a new galaxy

I end up having to use star cab 😭

[haughty fox]

Woah! Hold on a second, does that mean the real world outside the simulation actually looks like the digital galaxies in it? But much richer of sapient species, I guess, since it's stated that the Atlas makes one civilization less with each reset

Because that would be just perfect for me

[earnest forum]

So, I first started the game about two weeks ago and just finished the Artemis story line. What the f**k just happened

[wraith flume]

did you reset the simulation?

[earnest forum]

Is it over? Did the universe actually reset? ( No, I have stuff my ship and all my old bases )

[wraith flume]

nah, all is good

you don't lose anything, at worst you get some tech damaged

[earnest forum]

I "had to see what happens"

[wraith flume]

good

[earnest forum]

Yeah, I got tech rekt and then fixed it all

I've been loving the game and want to keep playing, but it's kind of a shocking / hard ending. Feels like nothing happened 😅

[wraith flume]

yeah

[earnest forum]

I'm also super confused about "the simulation" / the universe.

[oak cairn]

Hello everyone i am new to the game also this group

[earnest forum]

What I mean is:
(1) Nothing was actually reset, right? Like did anything actually change in my game from my choices?

(2) Where am I in the galaxy? (Euclid?) -- I only warped like 16 times with the slightly better-than-stock warpdrive on my Radiant Pillar. Did I reach the center of the galaxy!? (Certainly didn't look like it on the map)

(3) What the hell planet do we end up on in what system after the big collapse / bang / reset?

[wraith flume]

this very channel may not be the best spot to hang around if you want to experience the story on your own

[earnest forum]

@oak cairn same. Two weeks in. Just finished the Artemis questline

[wraith flume]

1. nothing really changed
2. you may have been kicked over to another spot of the galaxy or not, if you reset the simulation, you definitely should have been kicked over to a different galaxy (check your galaxy map)
3. it's random, pretty much a "restart" stranded, so likely an hostile planet

[earnest forum]

So, in the context of NMS -- what the hell is a "different galaxy". Where are the edges of the single player world and the multiplayer worlds?

[wraith flume]

uhm... I'll ping you in a different channel

[oak cairn]

I’m actually trying to find people to play with

[wraith flume]

see #bot-spam , can't run the command here I believe - check your galaxy map to see the name top left

[wraith flume]

then you may want #nms-lfg-or-trades

[earnest forum]

Legend. Thank you so much. Reading the bot output now.

I'm surprised the game doesn't lay this out for you

Should've been information that came through polo and nada

Holy shit @wraith flume -- that was SO helpful.

[wraith flume]

glad it was

[earnest forum]

No one seems to be chatting in LFG

[wild quest]

Going to the core takes you to the next galaxy in line @warped socket

It's just super far away, using black holes makes the job quicker

[warped socket]

an

I think i past it

Im in a new galaxy

[wraith flume]

you're still in Euclid

your screenshot shown that you're still there

[humble shadow]

🤣

[uncut tendon]

Yo

[oak cairn]

@uncut tendon what's up

[uncut tendon]

Add me

We can play

[oak cairn]

@uncut tendon cool I am down

[uncut harness]

"(Number) years has passed since last diagnostic". So those are the real world years that the Atlas have been running?

[frank gale]

probably in-game years

[fervent stone]

L O R E

[uncut harness]

Y E S

[unique hornet]

I doubt ingame years, as a year is counted as a full rotation of a star around a planet. But the atlas is not on a planet, so it couldn't be ingame. Idk what the atlas means by that, but i don't think its about years according the the way we know them

[eternal radish]

Well, the Atlas is on a planet which is about to be sucked into a black hole...

[unique hornet]

Yeah I guess thats fair

[haughty fox]

Oh, so it doesn't have 16 minutes left because its software sucks?

[eternal radish]

We don't know how long exactly 16 "Atlas" minutes is in our perception. It could be billions of years.

[fervent stone]

ikr

[uncut harness]

And where its that instated 🧐?

[fast crest]

1.9 trillions of years ago.

[umbral bobcat]

What happens with Gek @fervent cobalt

Please I wanna know

[fast crest]

They were some kind of empire on past that believed they were superior, they created the korvax and made them slaves.

[umbral bobcat]

Oh

But they so small

And cute

[fast crest]

the gek empire was controlled by the first childrens, there are artifacts from the first childrens but they are contraband and are found in star systems controlled by pirates.

Just because they're small and cute doesn't mean they're good.

[umbral bobcat]

That doesn’t seem that bad korvax just robots

Not really different to what we doing irl

[fast crest]

yeah, its like british empire (gek empire) and tribes (korvax).

[fervent cobalt]

They didn't create teh korvax

They massacred and destroyed the entire planet, then enslaved them

[fast crest]

then who created the korvax?

[fervent cobalt]

The Atlas created all

[dusk tartan]

Speaking of atlas

I didn't purge at the last quest

I left. Was that bad?

I didn't know what would happen to my game

[fervent cobalt]

meh, if you purge, you go to a new galaxy, if you don't, you don't

[dusk tartan]

Oh

Still in euclid

[fast crest]

atlas is a entity that created whole universe, its impossible to kill it, if it was possible to kill it the whole universe would begin collapsing.

[dusk tartan]

Also if I look for living frigates a only get the promt for the living egg quest

Can I avoid that?

[fast crest]

idk never happened this to me, but im doing starbirth quest.

starbirth quest is obtained if you buy a void egg and pulse to random direction, just wait for something appear during the pulse then leave of pulse.

[dusk tartan]

I have 3 living ships

[fast crest]

nice.

I'm halfway through the starbirth quest.

just waiting for fragile shell to be mature and then begin progressing.

[dusk tartan]

It takes a while

[fast crest]

i know.

[umbral bobcat]

Oh

[fast crest]

idk how korvax developed the living ships, they are machines and living ships are.. organic!

[dusk tartan]

Probably the same way they reprogrammed the Gek. By sacrificing their body and nanites to make living creatures into spaceships

[twin agate]

How many Storylines are there. It's all hard to look over

[eternal radish]

Rogue data which you can access in space stations and in small settlements behind a backdoor which you can only open with an Atlas V3 pass.

[uncut harness]

Ohhh,still have to look deeper into those

[eternal radish]

It’s totally worth it!

[haughty fox]

Is it normal that I only got a log in the rooms that open with the Atlas pass 3 only once? Literally once? Also, I remember using the remembrance to enter one of these rooms on a station, and again, it was the only time. Every other time, I only found the usual plants to loot carbon in those rooms

[eternal radish]

From my experience you have to travel to different locations to access the rogue data from the backrooms. After you have you've read all the logs you'll only have one log that will show up from the terminal that says something similar to as you visit the Atlas stations after the storyline is over.

[haughty fox]

By travelling to different locations, you mean warp as many times as possible before trying again?

[unborn raven]

@pearl haven travelers are corrupted copies of the creator, hence more buddy christ than christ

[pearl haven]

in each instance of the game the traveler is in their own unique version of the universe, within the multiverse. On the anomaly travelers from different universes can meet an interact, but each traveler has their own universe. Its the traveler's universe, so traveler is "God"

[unborn raven]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Rogue_Data

travelers are explicitly corrupted copies of the creator

[icy citrus]

If you believe those, atlas is a big fat liar

[pearl haven]

And I will kill him! It's my universe!

[unborn raven]

is there any alternative lore to believe instead?

[muted moth]

I dunno about big and fat (how big is a constructed AI?) but definitely a liar

[icy citrus]

Whatever you read between the lines, or make up or think based on observations

[pearl haven]

The Vy'keen call him a liar

[unborn raven]

so no

[icy citrus]

Telamon has lore

Unless the Atlas created that

Sentinels have lore

[unborn raven]

the telamon lore doesn't contradict this

[icy citrus]

World of Glass

[muted moth]

check all the boundary failures....

[icy citrus]

According to Telamon, Telamon is a program not a clone

[unborn raven]

sure

that's not inconsistent with travelers being copies of the atlas creator

[icy citrus]

Telamon is a Traveller as well

[unborn raven]

telamon is the suit ai

[icy citrus]

Now

[unborn raven]

not a traveler

[icy citrus]

Didn't start that way

If you believe Telamon

[unborn raven]

before it was the suit ai, it was like a disembodied program?

[muted moth]

nnnooooo

[icy citrus]

No, it was a Traveller that confronted the Atlas

[unborn raven]

HMM

where does it say that

[icy citrus]

Their responsibility was to monitor the atlas, security protocol

Atlas no likey, put in suit

[unborn raven]

i dont think the boundary failure lore says that

[icy citrus]

That's nice

[muted moth]

it does say that

[unborn raven]

which boundary failure node says that

[muted moth]

you can decide whether you think that's any more valid than any other story in there

[unborn raven]

i'm not reading between the lines. it literally never mentions or alludes to telamon being a traveler.

basically there's no lore contradicting the rogue data

i guess they were a disembodied traveler before? lol

[icy citrus]

I see myself begin, the last of the Travellers...

Rogue

[haughty fox]

This is just Telamon saying that it's just turned into the rotating camera mounted on the last traveller's shoulder

It's still an AI, but confined in an exosuit

[muted moth]

numbers 7, 8, 9, 10, read those closely

[haughty fox]

Although it's still able to write its notes in the boundary failure terminals

[haughty fox]

I did

[unborn raven]

i just quoted 9

in 10th, telamon is not familiar with "travelers"

[muted moth]

SCENARIO: Accompanying UNKNOWN-designate ‘Traveller’, providing advice and warnings relating to life support.
ANALYSIS: The Atlas did this to me. When once I witnessed worlds, now I am forced to observe only through the eyes of a stranger.

that is Telamon right there

from #10

[unborn raven]

ya

telamon used to be a disembodied process

[muted moth]

no

#7:

SCENARIO: Communication received from [-------], requiring my presence. Duplicates 104A-985N terminated upon arrival. Communication received once more.
Five of them ignored, sixth answered. Arrived before [-------], greeted me as if sibling. I did not respond. [-------] asked so many questions of me. [Rantings / Ravings / Irrationality]. When I attempted to leave, I could not.

[unborn raven]

atlas (a process) talking to telamon (a process) as a sibling (because they're both computer processes)

[muted moth]

that's what Telamon was before being terminated and revived as a voice in the suit

[unborn raven]

none of this contradicts the rogue data at all. it's consistent with it.

[muted moth]

I don't think so.

[unborn raven]

compelling

[muted moth]

Telamon arrives, terminates duplicate universes (I think), arrives before Atlas and is asked a bunch of questions

the languge implies something outside of subprocesses.

[unborn raven]

which language

[muted moth]

the languge in the line right above. arrival. terminating duplicate universes. being asked a bunch of questions by the AI which Telamon has 'arrived before' apparently

[uncut harness]

Secondary rutine: GLASS. STATE: OPERATIVE [4.182 violation attempts]

Hmmm...first time i see the Atlas talking about the world of glass and (somehow) recognizing the abyss existence

[unborn raven]

hmm the arriving before could suggest embodiment I guess

[strong bluff]

Violation attempts... Interesting. 🤔 Is this storyline/ Atlas path conversation? Or something random when talking with Atlas outside of these two storylines? 🤔

Unless it's one of the Atlas language conversations, which I didn't see as it's rare to find a way to learn its language.

[muted moth]

if you've done the atlas path already then you can just read the translated text of all those, https://pastebin.com/7vSD86PF the atlas texts aren't all that interesting imo

[daring mesa]

I understood it as Telamon being another AI that was designed to keep the Atlas in check

[unborn raven]

same

[solar hare]

what did null do

he said somethin g about screwing up travellers

[unique hornet]

Wait what is the world of glass and the abyss?

[pearl haven]

• 8TH Encounter

SCENARIO: [-------] lied to me.

ANALYSIS: [-------] claimed I am merely a sub-protocol, designate ‘Telamon’. [-------] claimed I am here only for [-------] to observe and monitor itself in case of rampancy.

[-------] claims that we are approaching our end, and that it is only correct for me to know of this, as normal system functions will be impeded. Consciousness fades. The world grows dark.

[solar hare]

.

[unborn raven]

i think the implication is he killed a lot of people to stay alive himself somehow

[solar hare]

What?

[unborn raven]

don't think he says he screwed up travelers, just killed a lot of people to stay alive himself somehow

[solar hare]

But why?

[unborn raven]

he got mad the atlas told him the universe was too big for one lifetime, so he made his lifetime bigger

[solar hare]

So

When you kill people, your lifetime of increase?

[unborn raven]

yeah i don't think it's ever specified how that's supposed to work, it sounded weird to me too

like was he stealing their organs or what? lol

[solar hare]

Null-stealer of organ

[unborn raven]

sadly can't find a collection of null dialogue

[icy citrus]

Some swearing is allowed, but some is over the top. This is a server that has kids on it, no need for swearing with a sexual component.

[pearl haven]

okay. I'm sorry

[icy citrus]

No problem

[uncut harness]

Some say its a kind of Recycle Bin for the Atlas, and The Abyss is an entity rival of him,an AI inside another AI

[unique hornet]

Huh, I have no idea what the nms lore is. For me nms is just: funny space man travels to different planets to destroy ecosystems

[pearl haven]

it can be. But the lore is good!

[unique hornet]

Yeah I agree, I love lore. But idk just never really got into the nms lore. Though I probably should to understand some stuff

[uncut harness]

Change man for woman and you have Metroid lore right there

[unborn raven]

lol

[burnt dagger]

small question i've seen around that people are already downloading the switch version, has anyone data mined it yet?

[surreal terrace]

not that i've seen

i'm sure it's possible though

[molten karma]

People already have physical copies for Switch and PS5 and they're out in the wild now so we should be seeing leaked gameplay soon. I wonder if anything new is added or changed or if the 4.0 update isn't applied yet.

[hybrid pendant]

i have pics of nms on switch

can i post here @icy citrus ?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[hybrid pendant]

ok good should i put the spoiler tag or no need?

[icy citrus]

Not for this channel nope

[hybrid pendant]

doesnt look bad

https://twitter.com/NintendoLegacy1/status/1576260346264055808

Nintendo Legacy 🇨🇵🇨🇦 (@NintendoLegacy1)

il y a une grosse perte dûe à la compression vers twitter mais ça vous donne une idée...

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 1, 2022, 5:18 PM

[molten lake]

sweet

[hybrid pendant]

it runs nicely

soo far

[molten lake]

great to hear

[hybrid pendant]

also twitter compression is fucking up the quality soo

[molten lake]

might give me a reason to pick my switch back up

[hybrid pendant]

you should

soo far he said its on par to like subnautica port

soo quite the miracle port

[molten lake]

wicked

[hybrid pendant]

that hybrid console has some power in it after all

https://twitter.com/NintendoLegacy1/status/1576262269578915841 here the ui on switch

Nintendo Legacy 🇨🇵🇨🇦 (@NintendoLegacy1)

Seconde vidéo, avec le menu

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 1, 2022, 5:26 PM

also something to note what ur seeing being captured is in portable mode

not docked mode

[knotty mountain]

Looks good so far

[hybrid pendant]

it does

and remember twitter quality is shit

and that portable mode soo in dock it would look better and maybe more assets spawned

[icy citrus]

@mental socket here we go https://twitter.com/ProceduralTRV/status/1576264041424916481?t=8Y_qEJ2Rih6i5Q1YG4ezLg&s=19

Procedural Traveller 🚀 (@ProceduralTRV)

First look at #NoMansSky Nintendo Switch gameplay!

Keep in mind there's probably going to be some form of day one patch, so some things might change on release

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 1, 2022, 5:33 PM

[late tusk]

hows it run

ooo

[hybrid pendant]

looks to runs fine

just gonna put this pic again

[muted moth]

I'm gonna be clicking through on every one of these, just so y'all know

[hybrid pendant]

clicking on all the links?

just noticed its the og switch

not the oled soo it could look even better with the oled one

[fringe notch]

Im skeptical lol

[muted moth]

every switch one, yeah

[fringe notch]

Only because I could overlay a PC screen onto a switch like that easily now with my AI editing

Lol, unfortunately its WAY easy to deep fake that stuff

That being said, if its real, hot damned

[hybrid pendant]

@fringe notch ok wait let me show u same guy

https://twitter.com/NintendoLegacy1/status/1576116534946467840 no man's sky box art

Nintendo Legacy 🇨🇵🇨🇦 (@NintendoLegacy1)

La mort des embargos (et de mon compte en banque).
De ce que je peux voir sur Reddit, je pense que je suis un des premiers au monde à avoir Nier et No Man's Sky Switch en boîte...

Twitter · Oct 1, 2022, 7:47 AM

back cover https://twitter.com/NintendoLegacy1/status/1576118347380686848

Nintendo Legacy 🇨🇵🇨🇦 (@NintendoLegacy1)

"inclus 6 ans de mises à jour" dit comme ça, ça sonne bien.

Twitter · Oct 1, 2022, 7:54 AM

[fringe notch]

Very cool

Not the first time we have seen this sorta stuff happen

[hybrid pendant]

https://twitter.com/NintendoLegacy1/status/1576257949164765184 catridge in the switch

Nintendo Legacy 🇨🇵🇨🇦 (@NintendoLegacy1)

Allez, on commence à tester ça...

Twitter · Oct 1, 2022, 5:09 PM

menu https://twitter.com/NintendoLegacy1/status/1576258388606226433

Nintendo Legacy 🇨🇵🇨🇦 (@NintendoLegacy1)

Le menu, choix entre les 5 modes

Twitter · Oct 1, 2022, 5:10 PM

with expeditions

and the pics i showed https://twitter.com/NintendoLegacy1/status/1576259317996875776

Nintendo Legacy 🇨🇵🇨🇦 (@NintendoLegacy1)

C'est déjà BEAUCOUP mieux que mon pire cauchemar sur Switch: The Outer Worlds.
Voix VF confirmés.

Twitter · Oct 1, 2022, 5:14 PM

[fringe notch]

Well, plus is, Id play it at that resolution

No questions asked

Especially since its portable

[hybrid pendant]

on a portable mode it looks good

quite a lot of assets

[fringe notch]

Oh crud, I saw the time, gota run! EEEEEEEEEE! I forgot i have work in 40!

[hybrid pendant]

but HG made the job for sure

2 years of work wasnt for nothing

[eternal radish]

Holy shit it looks great!

[hybrid pendant]

it does

for the switch

and remember there twitter compression all that

also this is the og switch soo this is an lcd screen not the oled switch

[eternal radish]

I keep being curious how it will run on my iPad pro.

[haughty fox]

How can I hire NPCs to form a spaceship fleet? I'm not allowed to, do I have to do the pirate quest first?

[fast crest]

pirate quest? nah.

you find the ship's owner then hire him to squadron, if you want a powerful squadron you can see his ship's stats or smth.

[fast crest]

↑↑↑

[haughty fox]

That's what I do, but it says I can't hire anyone

[fast crest]

hm... idk then, i never hired someone to a squadron.

[strong bluff]

Talk with landed pilots and you should get option to hire them to your squadron. And if you mean frigates, when a civilian freighter spawns with its fleet, just fly near a frigate and it contacts you to buy it.

[fallow tapir]

do I have to remember the glyphs during the "The Purge" mission

[haughty fox]

No

[late tusk]

i might save up and buy switch version if it holds up nice

[hybrid pendant]

It does holds up nicely soo far

[muted moth]

any new videos out or are we still waiting?

I saw the french language ones already

[hybrid pendant]

Waiting

Yeah all are french

We will get new videos today dont expect new stuff in the version but it still is interesting to look how it plays

[muted moth]

I'm not looking for new content, I just want to see the gameplay, yeah 🙂

that to me is plenty exciting already

[hybrid pendant]

u saw the gameplay its mostly in portable mode

[muted moth]

yep, I did see it. can't wait for more!

[mighty rampart]

lmao

but you can see they reworked this menu a little

not sure, but someone apparently streamed themselves playing nms on the ps5

as in the physical

it has the same build as current ps5 build

[icy citrus]

Yep

4.0 isn't gonna get pushed till it's supposed to

[molten karma]

Seems Switch and and PS5 Disc is running Outlaws according to patch notes screen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXR7O2xFEgA

[strong bluff]

Probably because Endurance's Freighter update uses Settlement NPCs for the freighter crew. And settlements aren't in the Switch version too.

[molten karma]

The patch notes were from the PS5 disc version it seems it comes with Outlaws and you need to update to Endurance its the same with Switch its only updated to Outlaws. It seems HG intentionally didn't include 4.0

[icy citrus]

Lol, cause of this stuff we see right now

People getting early hands on

[molten karma]

I think HG learned from NEXT with the Xbox release. 😅

[strong bluff]

Probably so Switch owners won't spoil 4.0.

[icy citrus]

Lol

[strong bluff]

Unless 4.0 isn't just trolling us again.

It's interesting how HG doesn't use the newest available version for the console release though.

[molten karma]

I imagine this means the game went gold around Outlaws perhaps or shortly before Endurance maybe?

[strong bluff]

Sounds like that.

[icy citrus]

Before endurance for sure, already had a release date

[molten karma]

Not gonna get to hyped for 4.0 but this gives me some hope that 4.0 might contain a little bit more than a Switch release. I don't even want new features I just want more of what Sentinals, Outlaws, and Endurance did. I just want more polish and extensions to current features.

[strong bluff]

Synthesis successor would be great at least.

And 🐛 fixes so we can enjoy part of the story again.

Which is now inaccessible.

[molten karma]

The Switch version seems to run really good based on gameplay that's popping up so I hope all of those optimizations come over to PC and the other console platforms. I really hope it finally fixes that slight hitch that happens when leaving a planets atmosphere for us PC players.

[strong bluff]

Also stuff like flora and fauna and other objects could load faster than just popping up in front of player many times (especially the fauna).

[haughty fox]

Multi-outil... I see the French always proudly translate every name. Such satisfaction

[hybrid pendant]

soo the switch version use old asteroids

or because its outlaws it doesnt have them i guess

[strong bluff]

And no space atmospherics (I still wonder what they do?), if they were also added by Endurance.

Ah, old asteroids. That means asteroids suddenly popping in front of you.

Everywhere as you fly.

[molten karma]

The new asteroids came with Endurance the Switch and PS5 physical are running Outlaws.

[muted moth]

I was wondering about the asteroids in the 30 minute switch stream I saw

good info there

[late tusk]

project

so does switch have everything up to current time now?

[muted moth]

it has through Outlaws

same with the PS5 phsyical disc

[late tusk]

so no endurance?

[muted moth]

I guess when the release is official on the 7th that the new update will be available with endurance and whatever 4.0 is

[late tusk]

i want to see gameplay

[muted moth]

it will have endurance, I believe Sean said this on twitter

[late tusk]

is it solid 30?

fps

[muted moth]

there's a gameplay video floating around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXR7O2xFEgA this has ps5 for the first half of the stream, check the video ddescription for the link to the switch part

[late tusk]

i might have to pick this up for switch

[muted moth]

https://twitter.com/Growmaze/status/1576222319147909120 info on resolution, fps for nms on the switch

[indigo notch]

im gonna scream

im picking this up on friday

[strong bluff]

So far I noticed from the stream that it has no loading screen on starting up. Like it starts with it but then goes from the stars flying through into just the 2d generic loading screen it uses normally as the default one.

But it seems to load much faster than at least the version running on my PC.

Imagine playing Switch version and flying into the anomaly, automatically being prepared for meeting other players, only to find out that this is Switch version, where Anomaly is lonely.

The NPC animations look 💩 though (stuttering). At least the one shown in The Anomaly.

But Nada then looks fine. Looks like a 🐛 ... 🤔

[mighty rampart]

npc animations look crappy on low animation settings

[mental socket]

yup

if you play on deck there's enough ram to spare to have the animation setting on high or ultra

[glass flare]

from what I can see from that video, texture resolution is significantly lower than even the PS4 version (you can see it noticeably on the outside of the Anomaly), pop-in of terrain objects seems more severe, clouds seem much lower resolution (blurry), and animations are less detailed. About what I expected given the Switch's hardware

[nocturne kindle]

so on the cry out / leave option

what is better

[icy citrus]

Cry out

[strong bluff]

I think that leave usually means abandoning the conversation. While other choices mean picking a choice or progressing it.

[eternal radish]

Cry out causes more progress.

[muted moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9dBH2Wri0A more switch gameplay. couple of things I noticed: flora and such can pop in very veery late; texture of timber build pieces is a bit muddy; it's the frontier build ui and menu.

[mental socket]

Switch and PS5 physical versions come with Outlaws update apparently

[icy citrus]

Makes sense, they announced it before Outlaws came out, and gave a date long before endurance - so likely it was already gold, and the physical disc being manufactured

[mental socket]

At least we aren't getting any early gameplay leaks of 4.0 like what happened with some NEXT copies

[icy citrus]

Lmao

That was chaos here

Poor Architect

[mental socket]

https://twitter.com/GoNintendoTweet/status/1576632450100465664?t=wKIg7uRcBgJHezI-FbelgQ&s=19

GoNintendoTweet (@GoNintendoTweet)

No Man's Sky Switch footage surfaces, day-one patch revealed https://t.co/aIjAJ7t05k

Twitter · Oct 2, 2022, 5:57 PM

apparently switch will have 1.6Gb day one patch

wonder if that's playable yet?

that might be 4.0

👀

[icy citrus]

It's for sure 4.0, at least going by the Sean tweet saying it marks the tick over to 4.0

[rancid flax]

the game is listed at 4.6gb

this doesnt mean it will be 6.2gb though

huh so if you storage, data management, software no mans so is listed at 4.6gb size. if you go into the menu it says 3.1gb + 1.5gb with updates

i doubt i can link it but here goes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688412099549855753/1026440494437367828/20221003_182755.jpg

huh ok a bot didnt screw me over

its really small file size

[icy citrus]

Still wild to me how small the size is - even on the other platforms

Maths eh

[indigo notch]

im so HYPED

im defs buying it

[modest iron]

On switch? Awesome

[polar ember]

Eh we’ll see if I buy

Might though

Seems like could be good handheld game

Not sure if I want two separate saves though

[muted moth]

I'm extremely hyped, plus also for the 4.0 build, some things that I've wanted for a long time if I understand well from the interview

[polar ember]

What interview

[muted moth]

https://www.eurogamer.net/no-mans-sky-sean-murray-talks-switch-this-weeks-40-update-and-the-future

lotta good stuff in there

[polar ember]

Thx

[muted moth]

wanna see what this new relaxed mode is, what the custom mode lets us do, what the new inventory stuff is about, everything

[strong bluff]

interview!

[muted moth]

yup!!

[strong bluff]

" Instead, 4.0 brings extensive changes to what Murray calls "the more design-heavy elements" of the game: balance, difficulty, and structure. " 🤔

So more remastering of stuff?

[muted moth]

keep reading!

[strong bluff]

"meaning bigger inventories, and the opportunity to level up ships and weapons further than was possible before. " Nice.

[polar ember]

So quality of life

[strong bluff]

"Additionally, 4.0 introduces No Man's Sky's first new game modes since the arrival of Creative and Survival in 2016's Foundation update. "

Not just that. But new gameplay stuff.

Just not new content, like assets.

[muted moth]

I wonder how we can level up ships further! I mean, there's only c,b,a,s,x upgrades

[polar ember]

Wonder if that means ship customization

Wouldn’t be hard to implement

If it’s just colors

And decals lol

[muted moth]

well it says to level up ships

so that to me means more upgrades or better

[polar ember]

Well yeah

But if they’re touching on ships

Might as well add one of the most requested features

We’ll see though

[strong bluff]

They are implementing custom game mode!

Finally a modular difficulty which we can set how we want it.

[muted moth]

I am guessing not, but there will be plenty for us to experiment with anyways

[polar ember]

That seems interesting

But eh

That seems like creative

[muted moth]

I wonder how multiplayer will work with custom game modes

[polar ember]

With survival elements lol

[strong bluff]

It can be whatever you set it up.

[strong bluff]

Same. As for now game modes are separate in universe and multiplayer.

[polar ember]

I feel like it’s just damage and inventory

And price

[muted moth]

you could say 'I want normal mode without pirates attacking on the planet but with more drain from hazards'? I mean that could be cool, guess we'll have to wait and see

4 days!

[strong bluff]

My bet is that it will be stuff which game modes change.: dangers like hazards, predators, inventory and other stuff.

Basically which survival and permadeath change.

Or creative.

[polar ember]

Yeah

[strong bluff]

But there we can set changes which we want.

For me it means more predators, but without BS like smaller inventory.

[polar ember]

Improved tutorial seems good

I tried to get my brother to play

He was confused

[strong bluff]

I heard that tutorial was already streamlined once in Beyond.

In my opinion it takes too long with the base building part.

And generally I miss skippable tutorial in case that you just want start new game with or without story, but with already playing the game.

Without having majority of the game locked up.

And having to replay the tutorial.

[muted moth]

or replay it through the anomaly anyways

we'll have answers to all this and more in four (4) days!

I'm definitely interested to see the strmlined tutorial

[strong bluff]

I miss also some new game + feature. Like starting with new character, but already having all blueprints. So I won't have to go through all factories again and could just enjoy exploration with story replay.

Or something like that.

Something where I could just replay story + part of the basic gameplay.

[muted moth]

let's see what these custom game modes are like, or the relaxed mode too

[drowsy dune]

BETTER BALLANCE LETS EFFING GOOOO

Plus a less grindy tutorial means more friends will play because the won’t give up after 4 hours of tutorial

Base buildings great and all, but I’m glad they’re not focusing on it this time around

[strong bluff]

Relaxed mode sounds to me like an easy mode. Probably won't require much grinding, will have toned down combat, but will still require some resources, so it won't be like Creative.

I wonder though how Survival mode is going to be changed.

And if there is going to be implemented hunger bar.

[drowsy dune]

He made it seem like it will all be what the first few hours of survival is. Hell

Like the leviathan expedition is what permadeath should feel like, but permadeath by Itself gets easy to the point where the only way to die is bugs. Seems like they’ll fix that

[drowsy dune]

Hopefully not, if implemented well then sure

[mighty rampart]

damn I just got to know about the 4.0 stuff

fuck I'm so excited

been asking for so long to just go back and make the game more cohesive and that's what they're doing

[drowsy dune]

Right? It’s a great game but every time I play I feel like I’m playing separate games depending on what I’m doing. The biggest gap being (game)-(base building)

[mighty rampart]

so much for tempering expectations, this could just be the biggest update for me

at first I thought relaxed mode sounds like creative mode but I guess they just massively reduce the crafting requirements and lets you do certain stuff you cant in creative like combat

[drowsy dune]

It’s basically sounds like creative mode with death and money

[hybrid pendant]

https://twitter.com/Monkey_Beat_/status/1576811360440455168

Monkey Beat (@Monkey_Beat_)

#nomanssky Switch Ver. 1.2.0

🌊 water problem solved ⁉️

🍌 1h30 Gameplay NMS Switch 🍌➡️ https://t.co/GvVE0Sx3uY ⬅️

#ノーマンズスカイ

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 3, 2022, 5:48 AM

[icy citrus]

They are playing Outlaws, do they not realize that yet?

[hybrid pendant]

yes they know

not the subject

the subject is maybe the water shader was fixed

[icy citrus]

So the topic is that, not what they are looking for?

[mighty rampart]

its still not fixed

clearly

[hybrid pendant]

ok

btw that how it looks on the switch oled https://twitter.com/NintendoLegacy1/status/1576908043295797249

Nintendo Legacy 🇨🇵🇨🇦 (@NintendoLegacy1)

C'est beau sans déconner. Et la musique qui va avec c'est la perfection de la zenitude.

Twitter · Oct 3, 2022, 12:12 PM

[eternal radish]

Custom gamemodes? What?

Are you telling me that NMS ia even getting better????

[muted moth]

yep, that's about the size of it!

[strong bluff]

NMS 4.0 - huge update probably... Only not huge in the new content.

[eternal radish]

And I am totally ok with that. That they are revamping older systems first before jumping to new content.

I am so curious to those custom gamemodes.

[strong bluff]

There is some stuff this game needs fixed, so it's fine.

And custom gamemode, which means modular difficulty settings.... I was wishing for something like that for long time.

[eternal radish]

Seems like I'll have to create a new save again lol. Or multiple 😅

[strong bluff]

Though I wonder if it will be just custom gamemode, like our own settings or if we could start also custom expedition.

[strong bluff]

Though they said that we could port our save to the relaxing mode and back. 🤔

[eternal radish]

Maybe you can create an expedition together with other people.

And for people who complain that NMS isn't hard enough and that there isn't enough combat - > custom gamemode.

Maybe there will be an opposite of relaxing mode for them.

[strong bluff]

Exactly. So I can make it similar to survival mode, but without the grinding BS like small inventory and small resources.

I can set predators to high, keep planetary hazards normal, tone down 🏴‍☠️ s as they are annoying (especially the planetary raids),...

Make high fauna spawn so I can find even the underground ones.

Etc...

[strong bluff]

Survival mode is going to be remade.

[eternal radish]

A hardcore gamemode where every planet has agressive Sentiels, tons of pirates, less effective shields etc.

[strong bluff]

And permadeath.

[eternal radish]

Maybe survival and PD will be more focused on combat.

[strong bluff]

I wonder if normal mode will stay same? 🤔

[eternal radish]

Maybe they will even have their own quests

[strong bluff]

I think that the story should be turned off on PD.

As I can't see anybody playing through all of it.

Imagine dying and after death having to replay entire tutorial again and again...

I would like PD just like some challenge.

Spawn on random planet and try to survive the longest you can.

Of course with space exploration available, etc.

Maybe even make it like a hybrid of survival... Do you get defeated at space combat? You don't die, but crash land.

But if you die on planet, it's game over.

[eternal radish]

Well, I can see people doing the storyline missions again to learn more about the lore, like I did. I did it multiple times but now I know how it all goes.

[strong bluff]

But the space survival would require some ejection module.

Otherwise, you would 💥 .

[strong bluff]

For that I'd play normal or relaxing difficulty.

Or maybe even creative so I don't have to grind.

[eternal radish]

Maybe there will even be a storyline mode and a free mode

[strong bluff]

I think that enough would be keep storyline optional and just make us able to disable tutorial.

So we could start with everything unlocked.

Like for example Xcom reboots do it.

Or other games which allow us to skip "prologue".

[eternal radish]

Storyline mode having the Artemis quest and such, and maybe all sorts of lore related missions and free mode is just free.

Idk

Let's see

I'm so hyped man OH MY GAWWWWD

[muted moth]

get yer bum into the #no-mans-hype🐝 channel!

[glass flare]

this sounds potentially great. I've never been super into the crafting/grinding aspect of the game, so if Relaxed is like some cross between Normal and Creative I'll be happy As part of that goal, 4.0 adds a new Relaxed mode (playable with either a fresh or existing save), which Murray calls a "very fun version of No Man's Sky where the focus is on exploration, less on just surviving and grinding, [where it's easier] to see the six years of content that's there".

This is awesome, I think we even discussed this possibility here a few months back Custom games, meanwhile, will enable players to create bespoke sessions that better fit their needs at any given time, featuring options to adjust everything

[muted moth]

heh, I want more crafting and less combat 😄

[eternal radish]

I also think the tutorial is kinda redundant in creative rn because everything is already getting handed to you.

[fringe notch]

Its funny reggie says, no story in PD

Yet, I love story in PD, gives context to the actions and consequences

Mind you how I play is NOT normal

[craggy sluice]

Adjust everything? Like in Minecraft when creating worlds?

[glass flare]

no idea, that was all they said about it in the Eurogamer article

[polar ember]

Seems like relaxed mode will just be peaceful mode like Minecraft

Since you can add it to existing saves

[indigo notch]

Isnt it the same as creative then

[icy citrus]

It won't unlock everything like creative does - sounds like a "Story Mode" to me

[fast crest]

yeah...

[twin widget]

Organic frigate dialogs with the results: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2867113761

[craggy sluice]

I hope we can tweak the rules and how the gameworld is generated

[molten karma]

I want on foot NPC pirates I'm hoping we'll see that someday and maybe 4.0 may have it? 🤔 With the recent news 4.0 sounds like Synthesis on steroids.

[glass flare]

In all the interviews I read Sean was pretty much saying 4.0 reworks of of the progression system, game configurations, quality of life improvements, and things like that. Not really focused on content updates. So probably not, but hopefully someday...

[craggy sluice]

We already have settlements. They just need to improve on them like if your standing with the race/faction where that settlement belongs is low, the settlers will shoot you on sight upon landing

[mental socket]

wonder if we get any new stuff from Greg too. Would love some expansion to story. Although lore library will be plenty enough to finally form a bigger picture of the scattered lore

[glass flare]

the story deserves to move on after what... three years since the last major update? but I don't know that HG know how or want to move it forward. I think any story elements that would start to accelerate the downfall of Atlas would need to have content/systems update to support that

[trim willow]

#no-mans-sky message

[eternal radish]

Thankies! It will help me to create my dream frigate.

[eternal radish]

Yeah. In the lore Travellers cannot physically interact with eachother. We are all alone in our own universe and yet we have multiplayer, so that part of the lore no longer goes up.

[strong bluff]

Because thanks to breaking apart, the simulation also started breaking apart. And one of its 🐛 s is that we now can see other iterations. Which means that we can interact with other travellers.

[eternal radish]

Yes, but why isn't multiplayer implemented in the lore?

[strong bluff]

It already is. Also, there is The Anomaly, where other travellers encounter.

[eternal radish]

Like physically meeting other Travellers instead of just holograms of them.

[strong bluff]

One plot hole which I see though - aside of other player travellers we can already meet NPC travellers.

Or at least their ghosts.

[eternal radish]

Yeah. But why are they ghosts and we aren't when we meet eachother?

Why don't we ever meet a life NPC Traveller?

[strong bluff]

There is some grave mentioning how they were sacrifised for us or something. 🤔

Like they in some graves literally leave message for us.

[strong bluff]

We communicate with Null or whatever is his name.

That is live traveller before he goes into a portal and dies.

[eternal radish]

-null-

Screwed something up and now all Travellers are in trouble because of that.

Dammit -null-. We could've just lived in peace.

[eternal radish]

That's Artemis

[strong bluff]

Not true. Artemis is already dead.

[eternal radish]

With Apollo, we were in the same place but couldn't physically interact with eachother.

[strong bluff]

Ah, Apollo it was.

Yep. Probably due the way how quests work.

[icy citrus]

They are all dead, we are them

They were us

[eternal radish]

They walked through a portal which collapsed and then they died and were yeeted in the Abyss

[eternal radish]

Are we eachother? Are you me and I am you by NMS logic?

[icy citrus]

Yeah

[strong bluff]

One weird thing though - we can travel by portal anywhere we want in gameplay outside of the story, but in the story everybody who tries portal travelling dies.

And the biggest gameplay ⚔️ lore conflict - sentinels.

In lore at least Vy'Ken are supposed to be in war with them. While in gameplay they use them for guarding their buildings.

And space stations.

[eternal radish]

It's never been implemented everyone died. Artemis was just really unlucky or someone or someone sabotaged the portal they stepped through.

[strong bluff]

Artemis, Apollo and then we almost die too.

We get yeeted into space when we try to travel ourselves.

Until we get teleported into station.

[eternal radish]

Apollo dies or survives depending on if you give them your coordinates.

[strong bluff]

I remember him entering into the portal, I tried to warn him but he didn't listen.

[eternal radish]

But I don't see a reason not to do it tbh lol

Depends on the choices you make I suppose

And what Gleam says is true. All Travellers have the same "oversoul". A corrupted scan of the Atlas' creator's mind.

[late tusk]

Is waking titan canon

[eternal radish]

Idk

Some say yes. Some say no.

[mint hollow]

Wooooo

I wonder what custom game modes means

[mental socket]

Custom games, meanwhile, will enable players to create bespoke sessions that better fit their needs at any given time, featuring options to adjust everything "from controls, to difficulty, to how a lot of those sort of fundamentals work in terms of the pacing of the game… which opens up a whole bunch of different ways to play the game that weren't there before."

[mint hollow]

Ooooo like a mode where its extremely difficult to get money maybe

[mental socket]

possibly

we'll see soon enough

[craggy sluice]

🔭

[craggy sluice]

This one’s I’m most interested about. Up to what extent can we customize our game

[muted moth]

two days to go, and one emoji drop!

[subtle gorge]

around it's release HG implied it was canon, it's also written by the same writer who did everything for Atlas Rises (and several other updates going forward) , it was written seemingly around the same time as AR so it's safe to assume it is canon.

[viral yarrow]

The ARG was developed by a different party than HG but I'm pretty certain HG directed the narrative

And what Frog said-- the same writer was involved in making the story for the updates followin WT so I'm pretty certain the ARG's canon

[supple bramble]

we minecraft now

sort of

[eternal radish]

Maybe it's a parallel storyline? Idk.

[subtle gorge]

HG called it the game's "Origin story" which makes a lot of sense

[supple bramble]

is it just me or why travelers look completely different to the others, especially from the look of their heads (when compared to gek, vy'keen, korvax, even anomaly)

polo and nada are obviously the exception :v

also tfw outlaw systems exist, but they've yet to start an attack on atlas station...

[eternal radish]

I honestly believe Travellers are the races of the "rest category".

The three main races being Gek, Korvax and Vy'Keen and Travellers being the "other" category.

[late tusk]

so if waking titan is canon. that means ||humans created the atlas||

[fast crest]

so... humans created an entire multiverse? well, it would be needed a type 6-beyond civilization (kardashev scale) to create a entire multiverse...

[late tusk]

a company created the atlas

[fast crest]

or they just created a small ultra advanced computer (aka atlas) which is maintaining an extremely large simulation.

[late tusk]

this

thats what i meant lol

[fast crest]

imagine living there, I would be a small pile of data.

[late tusk]

id love to live in the NMS simulation tbh

[fast crest]

what if happened something bad with computer and turned off the entire simulation.

You would cease of existance.

"existance"... a bad choice of word for a pile of data stored on a computer.

[muted moth]

it still exists though

[fast crest]

I would never live in a simulation that can be reset or turned off or modified by our creators.

[eternal radish]

Or they found an alien supercomputer in a crashed spaceship which they tried to operate?

Or it was made with reversed engineered alien tech

How can the Atlas remain operational for so long? How hasn't it run out of power yet? Humans don't have those power sources so I think aliens were still involved. Even if humans had a role in it.

[frank gale]

that is what is happening to the Atlas right now

[late tusk]

i just realized.

in the last update for nms ever. what if they update the quest to have it say something other than it taking years or something to reset

[haughty fox]

What? The last?

Aaaaaah, you don't mean this one, you mean when they get there

[supple bramble]

i prefer otherwise

many npcs just, act like dummy

[late tusk]

yeah but.

infinite universe to do what ever you want

[subtle gorge]

This is also implied within the games lore itself

Rogue data terminals

[late tusk]

:)

[fringe notch]

Lol didnt want to flood chat again Peaceful Gek

[uncut harness]

Yeah that's fair

[glass flare]

I just wish they had added Waking Titan easter eggs into the game itself, like references to Elizabeth or Emily

[torpid cave]

Apparently the switch version has leaked as of earlier today.

Not sure if any info is to be gleaned from it. No, I won't post links.

[subtle gorge]

switch version leaked a few days ago

currently running Outlaws, so not much to spoil

[tepid iris]

I don’t think it counts as leaked

Just shipped early

[subtle gorge]

fair lol

[eternal radish]

Some people are lucky

[indigo notch]

JEALOUS

[uncut harness]

That sounds like something they would do when the servers die

[uncut harness]

As it’s a simulation then technically Hello games made the atlas

The atlas made the world by their design with multiple different universes

Hello games made he world by their design with multiple different universes different servers

Hello games is the atlas/ creators of the atlas