no-mans-sky

[icy coral]

only if you want it to look cool

[blazing wraith]

I even build some at underwater POIs. The ruins in particular work nicely.

[icy coral]

personally i made sure to poke a few parts out

so they can have windows

but the rest is in the ground

[cedar agate]

How?

[icy coral]

placing the parts it digs the terrain for you

[manic ravine]

Pak files made mods encrypted well tho so somebody couldn't figure out and copy paste the structure or edit whatever they want , but gatekeepin like that is just crap imo, we all got the same mbin files we all can extract and edit it ain't like it's brand new code

[blazing wraith]

I tend to do all glass underwater bases most often... And glass habitrails... err, corridors...

[manic ravine]

No?

[icy coral]

yeah i do that unless it's partially in the wall cuz otherwise it's all ugly

[little halo]

I don't think the outside of underwater bases matter much, since you'll rarely be outside looking in

[icy coral]

yeah they dont really

[little halo]

PAKs are just compressed, not encrypted. There was nothing difficult about unpacking an old PAK mod and looking at it

[manic ravine]

What you say no for?

[icy coral]

unless you personally want it to look cool

[manic ravine]

Ih

[blazing wraith]

Nah, pak format is too well documented, it is not obfuscation, it is compression mostly, I expect.

[icy coral]

PSARC moment

[little halo]

The only difficulty was knowing what version of MBIN Compiler to use on the MBINs stored inside the PAK

[manic ravine]

It can't be just opened up in a Tex editor like an MXML and saved as an EXML

[blazing wraith]

But you can lock down any file format with checksums anyway, don't need obfuscation.

[icy coral]

that doesn't mean its encrypted

that just means its raw binary data

a text editor expects it to be text of a specific encoding (of any number of supported ones)

[manic ravine]

Well I'm just fking dumb

I do like exml better because it can just be edited from the get go

[icy coral]

benefits of just being xml lol

[little halo]

Anything that can be done in EXML is a billion times better than what it was like before

[blazing wraith]

Space (filespace, download size) is at a premium. The "make pretty" formats consume so much more than is needed for machine comprehension, that only files meant to be edited by hand are ever really exposed.

I mean, routinely.

[little halo]

I love seeing the "removing legibility" type things where it's only what the machine needs

We should go to #nms-modding though

[manic ravine]

Tbh pak files always pisses me off in other games too, and I always thought that compartmentalizing the game files like that was a noob proofing thing games do

[blazing wraith]

Yah, we have gotten a bit specialized { in this discussion } 😉

[icy coral]

i.e. a game reading its save data, if it knows bytes, say as an example 1000-10000 are "inventory data", it can just selectively read that range of bytes. no need for parsing XML or JSON or anything else

its faster and less bloated

issue is that makes it prone to corruption; if you make your inventory unexpectedly smaller you'll erroneously read into the wrong section and likely crash

[manic ravine]

Idk man , exml files are like old school cfg files except they control more shit

[icy coral]

i mean yeah its basically just a fuckton of exposed properties you can toy with

this is why only data modifications are officially supported; not code ones, that'd be way more complex not only to make the system but to ensure as minimal crashes on non-modded games who connect to modded games

[manic ravine]

Making a cfg from scratch takes more work then editing stuff in the exml files which is just numbers

Source engine games tho off topic

[icy coral]

i could yap about this shit all day my bad

[blazing wraith]

NMS had a bug limiting the max save file size once upon a time without code to check as the limit was exceeded, so rando behavior was to truncate internal data structures (in my case my discovery data) when the limit was hit. They fixed the limit, but my oldest surviving save was damaged because I had 399 bases, and if I moved in-game in Euclid too far from any that had vanished from the discovery data, Galactic Map crashed the game. So I spent 4 years in a bubble of space in Euclid just to prevent that. Eventually I found the workaround: visit all my bases (they needed maintenance anyway), which repopulated the missing discovery data, and hooray! I was no longer trapped!

[icy coral]

jesus

[blazing wraith]

btw, the reason it didn't crash the rest of the time is that NMS downloads an area of discovery data around where you are, so staying close to those "orphan" bases kept Galactic Map happy with the cached discovery data missing from the save itself.

Lol took me awhile to figure out the problem and the cause; the evidence for the cache was what made me one day go "Eureka!" and then visiting about 250 bases was all it took for the game to stop crashing...

[manic ravine]

I delete bases on a regular basis

Like shaving ones face

Basically daily I get like nah this base sucks

I don't even remember my starting planet

It's gone

[white bluff]

You are a poet and aren't even aware of it.

[little halo]

I think there's still a save file size limit, just MUCH larger. And discovery data is fixed size now to help prevent that, like terrain edits

[icy coral]

spittin rhymes like a lyrical miracle

[blazing wraith]

I considered that, which also would have worked, but since it was repopulating the discovery data to visit the base to delete it anyway, deletion would not be necessary. (Until I hit the base count limit in that save, which I did repeatedly 🤣 )

[white bluff]

My style is like a chemical spill.

[icy coral]

base limit seems like such an annoying but also absolutely necessary thing for this game

[manic ravine]

Control A , control x

Next one chopping block control a control x

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[little halo]

Given storage sizes now, save file size limits seem archaic, but I guess with cross-save, they need to keep their costs down

Also, saves can be compressed down to almost nothing

[icy coral]

i wonder how that'd affect the game, to compress the save files and decompress/recompress on-the-fly

might not be worth it

[blazing wraith]

Thanks to my bug and my workaround, I expect the behavior of bases and the discovery data for them is handled differently now.

[icy coral]

surely it wouldnt be that bad, how big can saves even get anyways

[little halo]

I think you'd just want to decompress on launching the save and deal with it uncompressed from there. Probably not a big enough size difference to bother with

[manic ravine]

I wanna know why my game crashes on my new better PC then my old one

[icy coral]

yeah i meant recompress on-the-fly for autosaves/restore points

[manic ravine]

5080 ti 32gb ram should not crash

[icy coral]

if ive learned one thing it's any mods to the jetpack can cause random crashes i think

[white bluff]

Is the 5080 Ti even out yet?

[manic ravine]

, yes it is

[little halo]

Probably just keep it all in memory and compress when you close the game?

[icy coral]

it's the Supers that arent out

[blazing wraith]

Could be driver issues, could be settings differences, could be hardware issues... Bugs... find a way.

[icy coral]

yeah surely that wouldn't be so bad

[manic ravine]

I crash more on my new build then I did on my 3050

Why is that

[icy coral]

lol

[little halo]

Wait, are the bugs going to reproduce asexually?

[icy coral]

NVIDIA focusing on AI is why that is probably

[white bluff]

I got a 5080 in November and the Ti's weren't out yet. I guess they're recent.

[little halo]

Newer hardware is inherently less stable.

[blazing wraith]

Bugs breed bugs...

[icy coral]

"who needs these drivers anyways they're all using these for AI are they not"

"who games anymore"

[manic ravine]

My mods just that unstable too?

[little halo]

Yes, that, too

[icy coral]

my mods cause crashing too

i never crashed once until i modded the jetpack

now it happens like, once a day

and you, my friend

mod your jetpack

[little halo]

Sometimes it's just a vanilla bug that gets highlighted by mods, but in any case, can't do much to fix them other than use less extreme values

[blazing wraith]

I crash, and I have no mods whatsoever. But I suspect it is an audio driver issue, because the first symptom of instability is sound going wild just before screen does (or just CTD).

[icy coral]

retrofitting spaceship thrusters onto your back is more accurate though

[river cedar]

I glitched all sorts of non-corvette stuff onto my corvette and now I crash at least once a day with it asking me if I want to verify files.

[manic ravine]

So I made myself so fast that I crash my universe

[icy coral]

you actually could have

[blazing wraith]

But I've had similar crash behavior on my last three systems (two desktop and one laptop), with two brands of motherboards of the 3 involved. Audio hardware differs with each, too. Who knows?

[icy coral]

high numbers can cause very adverse effects

i mean, you saw that visual rubberbanding yesterday

[river cedar]

Too high mobility can cause you to come to a complete stop and transfer all momentum into angular momentum: aka you spin like a top.

[icy coral]

Oh hey, wonder where I saw that before...

[manic ravine]

I mean my player model moves like agent smith from the matrix

[gaunt rune]

Rise and grind travelers

[tropic chasm]

do y'all think having a gaming laptop that can run genshin is enough to run nms?

[little halo]

Better to ask by giving the specs

Not by referring to some other game

[tropic chasm]

yeah think is I'm in the thinking process of getting one

[little halo]

What hardware are you thinking about and what quality do you want?

[tropic chasm]

I don't even know what brand of laptop I'm getting

[jovial saffron]

Oooh thanks 😊

[feral elk]

Howdy everyone

[little halo]

Brand doesn't matter much

I mean it matters, but not for whether you can run a game

[tropic chasm]

like, 60 fps genshin and enough to run nms smoothly

[little halo]

Resolution?

[tropic chasm]

I'm not exactly thinking ultra on everything

but maybe between mid-high

[little halo]

1080p, 2k, 4k?

[tropic chasm]

I know damn well 4k ain't in my budget

maybe 1080 or 2k

[little halo]

Ok, so 1080p or 2k, high to ultra, 60 fps. Got it. What kind of hardware might you want, and we can judge with that

[tropic chasm]

maybe an Star Advan Pixwar 1701 AMD Ryzen 7 6800H Ram 16GB SSD 512GB sbaya

[little halo]

I hate NVidia, but if you're using a 40 or 50 series GPU, DLSS 4.5 greatly increases the quality you can run at

[tropic chasm]

mind you I'm planning on a gaming laptop so idk if I can switch out the components

[little halo]

Mobile integrated graphics is not a good solution, for any game

[tropic chasm]

I can guess that

but from my desk set up, it's enough

[icy coral]

new iGPUs are genuinely good, as long as you're not cranking it to max

[tropic chasm]

plus the only monitor in my house is literally older than me

[manic ravine]

I mean

[icy coral]

AMD iGPUs have been good for a while and Intel Arc iGPUs are actually good for once in Intel's pathetic iGPU history

[crystal oasis]

Guessing one or more numbers too high

[icy coral]

perhaps, they aint even that high tho

sec

[manic ravine]

Crashing is my middle name , I

[crystal oasis]

All numerical values have an allowed range, outside of said range, things can become wonky

[tropic chasm]

I think bro has beef with intel

[icy coral]

    <Property name="UnderwaterMaxSpeedTotalJetpacking" value="25.000000" /> <!-- default: 20.0 -->
    <Property name="SpacewalkJetpackForce" value="20.000000" /> <!-- default: 10.0 -->
    <Property name="SpacewalkJetpackUpForce" value="10.000000" /> <!-- default: 5.0 -->
    <Property name="UnderwaterMaxJetpackEscapeSpeed" value="40.000000" /> <!-- default: 8.0 -->
    <Property name="FreeJetpackRange" value="999.000000" /> <!-- default: 3.0 -->
    <Property name="FreeJetpackRangePrime" value="999.000000" /> <!-- default: 5.0 -->
    <Property name="FreeJetpackRangeNonTerrain" value="999.000000" /> <!-- default: 1.1 -->
    <Property name="JetpackDrainHorizontalFactor" value="0.350000" /> <!-- default: 2.5 -->
    <Property name="JetpackMaxSpeed" value="25.000000" /> <!-- default: 5.0 -->
    <Property name="JetpackMaxUpSpeed" value="25.000000" /> <!-- default: 30.0 -->
    <Property name="JetpackFillRate" value="0.750000" /> <!-- default: 0.5 -->
    <Property name="JetpackFillRateMidair" value="0.500000" /> <!-- default: 0.25 -->
    <Property name="JetpackUnderwaterDrainRate" value="0.010000" /> <!-- default: 0.4 -->
    <Property name="JetpackUnderwaterFillRate" value="5.000000" /> <!-- default: 1 -->
    <Property name="SpaceJetpackForce" value="99.000000" /> <!-- default: 40 -->
    <Property name="SpaceJetpackUpForce" value="99.000000" /> <!-- default: 30 -->
    <Property name="SpaceJetpackMaxSpeed" value="99.000000" /> <!-- default: 10 -->
    <Property name="SpaceJetpackDrainRate" value="-99.000000" /> <!-- default: 0.3 -->

[icy coral]

nah, i have an intel cpu. their iGPUs have just sucked for literally decades

[manic ravine]

Yeah but it's fun...

[little halo]

It looks like the 680m is not quite as good as the NVidia 1060. I played NMS on a laptop NVidia 1060 for a long time, so you can play on that, but it's not going to be fantastic. Definitely don't try to go above 1080p

[manic ravine]

To me

[icy coral]

then again i'm never getting an intel CPU again because this shit is degraded.

[tropic chasm]

other than big storage cap and big ram this is all gibberish to me

[crystal oasis]

In answer to your next question, we never know what said allowed range is, as that data is obfuscated in the exe. Only way to find what works is trial and error testing to determine the range, which can be extremely time consuming.

[manic ravine]

Really?

[manic ravine]

Exactly

Throw shit at thewalla s
D hope and pray to god

[tropic chasm]

yes, I'm clueless with components and computers in general

which is why I like preset stuff

[icy coral]

i literally had to add functionality to software i maintain just to bypass this fact and im not even joking you

[crystal oasis]

In this case, for Greem not talking about fun, he's more interested in stability. 🙂

[little halo]

From the one laptop you mentioned, I would say you can play NMS, but probably at 1080p, Enhanced settings, maybe 60 fps. But don't expect too much.

[icy coral]

honestly the crashes arent often enough for me to need to change it

[manic ravine]

Y'all smile too much I stg,

[icy coral]

it'd be nice to fix it yeah but eh

[little halo]

Or you don't smile enough

[icy coral]

id rather have the jetpack the way i have it rn

[crystal oasis]

Then block 🤪

[manic ravine]

Nuh

[icy coral]

(this is a modified EXML version of Fly Like Iron Man btw) (animation is separate)

[manic ravine]

It ain't that deep

[tropic chasm]

if it can run I can play and that's the important part

[manic ravine]

I hope I don't got no beef with anybody

[little halo]

Ok, then you can play it. I recommend trying to find a better graphics card than that laptop, though

[crystal oasis]

Doodoo did something new and interesting with that one.

[manic ravine]

Not tryna be like that

[icy coral]

Yeah, it's an awesome mod. I just didn't want to use it because I didn't want infinite jetpack. Then I was like yknow what, lemme diff the vanilla file to figure it out

[blazing wraith]

Yah, my first NMS was a desktop 1050, with an odd amount of memory. Worked fine then, but oh how far we have come. Then a desktop 980 Ti as I recall, which sang with more memory... But motherboard fried (no heat sinks on the power chips!) while I was playing one night... NMS can be persuaded to be harsh to your machine if you try. 😉

[manic ravine]

No hard feelings? Pls don't hate me

[tropic chasm]

I'll try but Ion know if my budget can handle it

and my knowledge is limited

[little halo]

I completely understand. If you have other questions, just post the laptop and that you want to run NMS at 1080p, Enhanced settings, 60 fps, and someone can look at it and tell you if it would work

[crystal oasis]

I neither have hard feelings nor hatred (non-emoji smile)

[icy coral]

not kidding btw. it was a process
(I unpacked the vanilla MBIN from the game's PAKs, did MBIN -> EXML, then MBIN -> EXML the mod, then made my own mod of the changes and noted the defaults)

im very happy with the result though

[manic ravine]

Good work

[crystal oasis]

Yep, do it all the time

[icy coral]

yes i used github to diff instead of locally dont @ me

[manic ravine]

I must have been a dummy to use regular ah notepad

[crystal oasis]

Although I do local

[icy coral]

it was a fun experience

[manic ravine]

In bright mode

Feels more old school

[crystal oasis]

Each to her\his own. Any text editor will do. Some are just more feature rich than others.

[manic ravine]

Again it's that windows 7 aesthetic

[sharp raft]

Invasion! INVAAASION!

[icy coral]

UFO PLANET

UFO PLANET

[little halo]

Orson Welles got me with that once, I can't be fooled again!

[icy coral]

make a crop circle with the terrain manipulator

[sharp raft]

don't give people ideas, man!

[manic ravine]

Man I put that stuff all over the place in the rendevus points at expedition

The glowing one

[little halo]

Don't put many down, it makes it hard on low-end systems

[sharp raft]

With that.. Mitey is out! CRYOSLEEPS! 👋🏻

[manic ravine]

I wish we actually had real flying saucer ships and I don't mean the millennium falcon rupoff boundary herald

[icy coral]

lmao

ok so im NOT CRAZY

I THOUGHT THE SAME THING

[sharp raft]

...no you're nuts.

[icy coral]

"damn that kinda look like the falcon "

[manic ravine]

Whit kinda sorta does

[sharp raft]

Don't dis the hearld! it saved many a peoples!

[little halo]

Boundary Herald? It's like a mix of Falcon, Ebon Hawk, and some creative liberty

A lot of the unique ships are "inspired by real life events"

[icy coral]

golden vector is very real

[manic ravine]

I asked why we ain't got any flying saucer ship and somebody was like boundary herald and I'm like oh that

[little halo]

Yeah, Falcon is nothing like a saucer

Though, fun fact, Kenneth Arnold didn't describe the ships he saw as "saucers", but rather 'skipping across like saucers'

[white bluff]

I like the Alpha Vector better

[manic ravine]

They were. Being contemptuous I suppose

[icy coral]

ah is the Alpha Vector what the gold one is based on

i was wondering what it was based on, since it didnt look like the radiant pillar

[little halo]

I've thought of doing a golden Radiant Pillar

[icy coral]

thatd be sick

if that mod only has one download im it

[little halo]

People have built slightly like that ships

[manic ravine]

The fact I only found out recently you can make your Corvette look Metallic is just sad

[icy coral]

i make all mine black/metallic and the aeron ones white-red/metallic (it hardly shows the white if at all)

[little halo]

They really need to open up the textures and colors on items. The engine supports it and it doesn't add any network traffic

[cedar agate]

Yo mitey, so far the game is goin well, I'm getting some ideas for water bases I do believe from it

[white bluff]

And the launch special Explorer's Edition box included a pretty great die-cast metal statue of the Alpha Vector.

[icy coral]

mossy corvette when

[manic ravine]

I would

[icy coral]

[manic ravine]

But yeah all the angula I'mr and lack of smooth surface Corvette parts pmo, all habs being rectangular

Rectangles

Or brick/cube shaped

Exotic Corvette when,.well gotta be creative I. G

Nah the ambassador cockpit is pretty T-Rex, lizard head looking

[little halo]

I had that in storage. Someone broke into my storage unit and stole it 🙁

I want the statue again and a V4 Atlas Pass

[manic ravine]

Doesn't what on earth is ambassador ship supposed to look like?

[little halo]

Angles are easier to match up than curves, I think, for procgen or multiple parts merged

[manic ravine]

Yeah but doesn't anyone think we need more cockpit

[still roost]

My Portal base, 55 roughly identical so far, some have the pad on the other side

[little halo]

Corvette cockpits? My guess is they will occasionally do themes of cockpit/hab/landing for expeditions or releases

[manic ravine]

I often forget the game is a decade old, and probably has it's limits

[short arch]

I can't get around to building a proper vette because I lack talent

And don't want to fly around in a piece of shit

[icy coral]

follow a tutorial, thats what i did

[little halo]

It's about 11 or 12 years of slapping stuff on top of the main engine and trying to get it all to work together

Even multiplayer existing at all is pretty much just bolted on top of the main engine

[manic ravine]

Integrated cockpit I feel kinda would be, neat

[short arch]

Also I like how detailed the pre made ships are vs the very cobbled together look of the corvette

[manic ravine]

Placeholder Corvette just an absolute nightmare

[visual jolt]

crashed freighters aren't worth it.... maybe in the early game. I never get anything decent from them

[manic ravine]

The default "biggs" yes it is called that in the filesis the uh Thunderbird hab, a reactor on top, titan ramp, Thunderbird cockpit, and photon cannon

[little halo]

They need to be less common (like most PoIs) and give more interesting rewards

[manic ravine]

You can see the default Corvette look when you incorrectly import a Corvette

[little halo]

Skis sue what?

[short arch]

I do kind of like the idea of living on just a corvette though, no frigate and no home base for an entire run

[manic ravine]

The thunderturd hab makes my skin itchy

[short arch]

Not sure if you miss out on anything doing that

[manic ravine]

Random wires on the floor and all that random stuff

[blazing wraith]

I farm them for salvaged freighter data to upgrade my freighter plans, but yah, early game I reckon

[manic ravine]

How come the worst hab has to be the one with the only normal looking cockpit

[short arch]

Actually I kind of like that, I won't post pictures of my home but when doing renovations I purposefully kept the wires out of the walls via conduit running across the wall and ceiling etc

I hate the idea of outlets being in fixed spots

[manic ravine]

That is not a safety hazard?

[short arch]

Not when you follow proper safety standards

[blazing wraith]

Ooo, I've fantasized about that too. The utility of it!

[manic ravine]

But then it feels like the cabin of a b52

[short arch]

And that is a bad thing?

[manic ravine]

Uncomfortable

[blazing wraith]

You say that like it's a bad thing 😉

[short arch]

It is a constant positive moodlet hanging in the background of my brain

I have moved my ceiling fans around every so often, outlets when reorganizing rooms

[icy coral]

Shorthand for issue of skill (not typed that way normally, it's automodded, remove the yoda-like speech)

[manic ravine]

I the kind a person that would be like wipe your shoes before entering my ship

[wheat grove]

@short arch Circumventing of blocked word filter is a no-no in here.

[short arch]

Oh

[manic ravine]

I often think in horror about all the gunk tracked into my ship

[short arch]

Well now I know that is illegal and a scary thing to say to people

[short arch]

There is no gunk, the server deletes that sort of stuff to save on memory

[manic ravine]

Thankfully it's not like power wash simulator

[blazing wraith]

I've actually placed wires in NMS bases decoratively on occasion. (And IRL made a conduit track to hide wires on a hearth above which a TV is hung). We should have "conduit" as a flavor of wire that does not light up for powered/unpowered state, just is wiring. (Maybe it lights up unless there is a "hide wires" unit built in which case it is just opaque.)

[short arch]

That would also be fun

[manic ravine]

That would be fun? to power wash ship?

[short arch]

Yes.

[normal pawn]

hello fellow entities

[blazing wraith]

I don't use the "hide wires" item because I like wires 😉

[manic ravine]

I hope the wires are insulated, ugh the amount of clutter

[blazing wraith]

I imagine they are like those led USB cables that light up when connected correctly to stuff. In our case, blue if powered and red if not 😉

[manic ravine]

Is your ideal back yard a scrap yard

[normal pawn]

did the emoji get revealed

[blazing wraith]

You say that like clutter is a bad thing 😉

[manic ravine]

Nah I like scrap yards

[blazing wraith]

Lol my grandaddy had a scrap yard, that was a fun place to run around

[little halo]

High odds on the next 48 hours'

[normal pawn]

wowzert

[short arch]

I wanted to open one ever since I was a kid, my backyard is full of dumb nonsense I have made and fucked up over the years, shredded or melted down plus my solar setup

[blazing wraith]

The natural state of backyards are scrap yards... But wives don't like that 😉

[manic ravine]

Do you have experience taking things apart and putting them back together

[short arch]

Most grown men do I would assume

[little halo]

Too many people don't, men or women

[short arch]

Well the past couple generations and everything going forward was raised on pressing icons on a piece of glass so

We are done for

[blazing wraith]

My daddy grew up in the Depression, so showed me how to macgyver lots of stuff 🤣

[little halo]

Most people look at something and don't think "let me take that apart" and instead think "I'm going to doomscroll"

[little halo]

Duct tape and a paperclip

[short arch]

Yeah there is a reason it used to be just kind of normal in a show or movie etc that a mans garage was full to the brim of tools and bullshit

[fickle walrus]

I dream of CONTENT

[blazing wraith]

You should see my multicolored duct tape collection...

[short arch]

Sean when are we getting a proper mining and industry update

[manic ravine]

Collecting metal is fun I suppose

[short arch]

I assume never since LNF has no need for such things really, maybe

[short arch]

So is melting it down into ingots

[little halo]

LNF trailer has people cutting down trees and physically carrying them away, so mining could be part of that

[short arch]

I suppose, minecraft industry type stuff

[manic ravine]

I bet you'd know how to make a working radio

[little halo]

I don't want industry, but player-driven crafting and economy

[fickle walrus]

Can you imagine the sickest team-up with the dyson sphere program people??? I would die

[short arch]

I just wish mining was a thing, or salvaging

[blazing wraith]

Is carting away petrified wood mining, or forestry? Inquiring minds want to know!

[short arch]

We probably will never get a proper combat update due to corvettes being massive shit bricks

[short arch]

It's a sin

[manic ravine]

Actually...a scrapyard would be interesting in nms

[short arch]

They have whole planets that look like that

[little halo]

It's 'wood mining'

[fickle walrus]

Turn NMS into a factory game.. it alr has the space exploration and resource generation aspects.. give me production lines

Satisfactory type shit

[manic ravine]

An abandoned post apocalypse planet would be nice

[fickle walrus]

Arent those a thing?

[manic ravine]

Abandoned cities

[short arch]

But there ain't anymore organic material, all the wood is gone

[little halo]

No thank you

[blazing wraith]

🎶 Looking for ore in all the wrong places... 🎶

[fickle walrus]

You would refuse such a blessing?

[smoky jasper]

board game base is starting to look decent 🎲 ♟️

[fickle walrus]

Ohh proper cities/structures would actually look sick

Major settlements

[little halo]

Searching for veins, looking for traces

[short arch]

Trying to make the perfect game for every part of the tism spectrum would be an impossible task

[manic ravine]

Especially long direlect ones covered in moss but lights on still

[fickle walrus]

Im afraid you clocked me

[little halo]

I want nothing to do with automation. If automation is a significant part of a game, I don't want it

[fickle walrus]

My autism DEMANS factory game in NMS

I love NMS i just want proper infinite replayabikity

[short arch]

I just like resource collection, not endless refinement

[little halo]

Oh, perfectly reasonable, small ask there

[short arch]

I almost fucking puked when I built my first nuclear plant in satisfactory

[manic ravine]

I mean would like to own a space station and get money from it's daily operation

Would restoring a space station back to working be satisfying

[blazing wraith]

I smell a typo, at least that is olfactory, right? 😉

[short arch]

Money is meaningless in a game where you can trade via walking through gateways from high to low buyers and sellers

[little halo]

Is there a d30? That's the peak of dice homage

[fickle walrus]

Im afraid i dont get the reference 😔

[cedar agate]

There is a d100

[little halo]

Your face is olfactory /s

[manic ravine]

Abandoned space station kinda makes me feel sad anybody else?

[smoky jasper]

nah and the 1d4 are pyramid base parts so 5 sides just dont focus too hard on the details lol

[little halo]

d100 is relatively common compared to a d30

[short arch]

Let us do planet cracking

And blow them up

[little halo]

Yes, I know it's not statistically consistent

[blazing wraith]

I made a punnish remark, as "smell" is the "olfactory" sense (as sight is the visual sense).

[cedar agate]

Yeah...

[fickle walrus]

Real talk tho am i cooked for thinking satisfactory gameplay loop implemented in NMS would go do immeasurably hard i would DIE for it

[manic ravine]

Yeeeeeessss

[fickle walrus]

OH!!!

I get it now

[manic ravine]

Super piss laser

[fickle walrus]

English is my third language i apologize

😔

[little halo]

I hate that gameplay loop, so I inherently say "yes, you are cooked", but others would agree with you

[cedar agate]

Real talk, I want a digital hollogram map of my nearby location, now that would be a peak base decoration

[little halo]

Third language? Why it not first?!?!?! /s

[fickle walrus]

You hate the gameplay loop in the limited setting of the satisfactory world.. imagine in NMS.. infinite planets with proper space travel and exploration.. i drool

[blazing wraith]

No problem! I'm sure "olfactory" was stolen from some other language entirely: English is quite difficult because the serial numbers are so often filed off...

[icy coral]

LOL

what a metaphor

"english is just a series of words with the serial number filed off"

thats hilarious

[manic ravine]

Drool? I mean it does sometimes get.... repetitive

[blazing wraith]

And true! 😉

[fickle walrus]

In a good way! :D

[manic ravine]

I wish I could erasemy memories of this game and experience it all again

[little halo]

I would still hate it. I have no interest in that gameplay loop.

[fickle walrus]

I think more life in the NMS world would also look great.. like cities and such

[cedar agate]

He's a satusfactoryhaulic

[fickle walrus]

Im sorry you feel that way.. you are sentenced to 40 hours of dota 2

[manic ravine]

What loop? Managing things, yeah fk that I'm with you

[fickle walrus]

I have a confession im not even a satisfactory player.. my poison is factorio

[little halo]

Can I plea bargain for 40 hours of something I would enjoy, like e33

[fickle walrus]

🤤

[fickle walrus]

Bro the whole point of a sentence is that u wont enjoy it…

[manic ravine]

It's about perspective

One man's sentence can be another man's salvation

[blazing wraith]

But you can always end a sentence with a period. 😉

[little halo]

Although, really, the point of a sentence depends on your criminal justice and punitive theories

[fickle walrus]

My societal/political views are questionable i will NOT be disclosing anything else

[fickle walrus]

Word.

[little halo]

7am in Guildford, get ready...

[blazing wraith]

1 am in Spring (Texas).

[little halo]

I've been there!

[fickle walrus]

8:57 am in here

[cedar agate]

What came first, the atlas or egg 🤔

[manic ravine]

I have destroyed many fleets out of boredom, why am I not wanted?

[fickle walrus]

Probably egg

[blazing wraith]

Cool!

[little halo]

But none of us matter in this context, Guildford is all that matters

[fickle walrus]

No one wants him.. 😔

[little halo]

Considering lore, Atlas came first

[cedar agate]

I can't a Ford that guild

[manic ravine]

Replace pirates with bounty hunters if ur bad

[blazing wraith]

My family has been to Guildford (in passing, as I understand it), but I missed the chance. I'd have to doublecheck the route they took to be sure.

[fickle walrus]

Where is guildford

My leg is starting to get numb pls cat…

[manic ravine]

Couldn't I make my game have text saying bounty hunters instead of pirates

Since I'm kinda the bad guy

[little halo]

Might want to delete that

Guildford is a sub-suburb of London, South-SouthEast, where Hello Games is located

[manic ravine]

Who me?!

[blazing wraith]

My bad, wrong side of greater London (they went north east)

[little halo]

Only NMS content, even more specifically, screenshots of NMS

[fickle walrus]

Prolly the cat, i forgot this isnt the general channel

[little halo]

Though I like the color

[manic ravine]

I want there to be a galactic military tryn get me

[fickle walrus]

She’s one of the most calico calicos wver

[fickle walrus]

U just want to play gta 5..

[manic ravine]

And the. I just demolish them like nappa

[little halo]

Interesting thing, while Hello Games is based in England, a lot of the owners/developers are not English

[manic ravine]

No forget that

I want to play this

[little halo]

It was mildly interesting the first few dozen times...

[manic ravine]

Eh

[pseudo scaffold]

Someone here told me that is easier to get a save editor and put the sentinel rifle stats into another gun rather than making a mod that changes the sentinel rifle model

[manic ravine]

Oh my condolences

[little halo]

Yes, it would be easier to save edit that

[manic ravine]

I'm surprised you took tally

[pseudo scaffold]

Which save editor can do that and will that make the Atlantic one s class or with 20 max damage potential or copy the 50 from the sentinel?

[fickle walrus]

Why would u need to do that tho

[little halo]

I didn't

[little halo]

You just change the number

[pseudo scaffold]

Ohhhh, what save editor can I use

[manic ravine]

You just like "you just keep doing the same shit different day" that basically?

[fickle walrus]

Ive not dabbled in save editing but ig u just find ur local save and change the stored values

Are they encrypted??

[little halo]

GoatFungus or NomNom

Saves are compressed and obfuscated, but not encrypted

[manic ravine]

Same shit different day?

[cedar agate]

Goatfungus please, with a side of macarona

[fickle walrus]

I would say encryption is a bit more than compression and obfuscation

[little halo]

Anything corvette related is not good for GoatFungus. Otherwise, I think they are fairly interchangeable currently

[manic ravine]

Nom nom is ass

[pseudo scaffold]

Idk never did this

[manic ravine]

Well it is

It's laggy

[pseudo scaffold]

I just want my sentinel rifle with a skin of an Atlantic rifle

[little halo]

Laggy and compatible is better than not laggy and not compatible

[manic ravine]

It is tho.... compatible

Who said not compatible

[cedar agate]

Gumsk did

[pseudo scaffold]

Also there is no skin mods so this is the only option but I don't want to accidentally delete my rifle

[manic ravine]

Since when is goatfungus not compatible

[fickle walrus]

With corvettes.. they did.. a minute ago

[pseudo scaffold]

And better than laggy and not compatible

[manic ravine]

Goatfungus is versatile,, efficient

[pseudo scaffold]

What are u talking about

[fickle walrus]

True.. can put it in a salad in a sandwich or with wine

[manic ravine]

Save editors

[timber haven]

This multitool talk reminds me I never did record the coords and portal code of the pillar where I aquired a white royal from on the wife's account.

[fickle walrus]

The save editor is called goatfungus, the other option is nomnom

Ive not tried either

[little halo]

GoatFungus can't handle corvette stuff, AFAIK

[fickle walrus]

Im relating information ive seen here

[manic ravine]

It can and did for me

[pseudo scaffold]

Ohhhh I'm looking for it now!

[manic ravine]

why did it for me?

[pseudo scaffold]

How do I em, find data?

[fickle walrus]

Did u download the save editor ?

Im GUESSING u just select the folder where ur game saves are and go from there

[little halo]

If you want very basic save editor help, try #nms-modding . Otherwise, you want

!creativehublink

[lime haven]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[pseudo scaffold]

I can't join servers

Hit the 100 multiple times already

[manic ravine]

I wasn't asking for help I was counterpointing the statement that it can't handle corvette

[little halo]

A biter, huh?

Basic stuff, #nms-modding is fine

[fickle walrus]

100 servers is crazy tf are you doing

[manic ravine]

Real

[little halo]

Hey, some planets juggle baby geese, goslings

[pseudo scaffold]

But I was asking for help

[manic ravine]

I'm in 25 servers only

[pseudo scaffold]

Who tf I know? I just join them talk them meet people

Lots of games

Communities

Modders

Mods

Game devs

[icy coral]

im in a bunch as well

[little halo]

It's fine, I've known multiple people that hit the 100 server limit

[manic ravine]

Any who, what's the plan for today for y'all?

[icy coral]

probably more than 100, idk, ive had access to more than 100 for years

[timber haven]

Im only on 15 discord servers lol.

[fickle walrus]

Maybe im just old

[little halo]

I keep fewer than 15 icons on my desktop, even though that's kind of what it's for

[manic ravine]

What sort of adventure in no man's sky do you have in store for today?

[pseudo scaffold]

I emm

[timber haven]

And a few are essentially dead...

[pseudo scaffold]

Same

[blazing wraith]

glancing nervously at my scrollable list of server icons on the left

[little halo]

I have modding "adventures", looped SEC_EDIT stuff

[pseudo scaffold]

Emm

Say a number guys come on!

Say a number

[little halo]

22 is my favorite

[fickle walrus]

32

[pseudo scaffold]

Higher

[icy coral]

i cant, im not taking that long to count

[manic ravine]

NULL

[icy coral]

thats your answer

[pseudo scaffold]

Say big nombah

[manic ravine]

2147483647

[pseudo scaffold]

NOT THAT BIG

[fickle walrus]

e^x
x -> in inf

[little halo]

unsigned short int!

[fickle walrus]

I think they got their save editor working

[fickle walrus]

2^64 - 1

[pseudo scaffold]

i dont have that many tabs open

[manic ravine]

My favorite is stack overflow

[icy coral]

real men 18446744073709551615

[little halo]

Yeah, that's stressful for me to even see, let alone on my own computer

[icy coral]

i'll do you one better

340282366920938463463374607431768211455

LMAO

[manic ravine]

Wbwtin god's name

[pseudo scaffold]

Eventually I check them

[icy coral]

(unsigned 128-bit integer max value)

[icy coral]

this one is 64

[manic ravine]

Boy I think that's universe ripping

[icy coral]

lmfao

[fickle walrus]

Are you making pixel art with your browser 😭

[icy coral]

crazy how big you get when you glue 2 ulongs together

[pseudo scaffold]

U good?

[icy coral]

looks like a timeline in video editing software

[manic ravine]

Discord mobile sucks eggs with keyboard

[pseudo scaffold]

Making a bar code

[pseudo scaffold]

It's just getting used to it

[fickle walrus]

Did u figure out the save editor

[manic ravine]

My fingers are too sweaty

[fickle walrus]

Knees weak? Arms perhaps heavy?

[manic ravine]

No....

[little halo]

Gek spaghetti

[icy coral]

nondescript bodily fluid on your sweater already

[manic ravine]

I had 3 energy drinks in one go

[pseudo scaffold]

I'm watching a movie rn when I finish it I'll check

[little halo]

Maybe don't have so many

[fickle walrus]

Bro i had so much caffeine yesterday

[manic ravine]

I also take amphetamine (Adderall)

[pseudo scaffold]

Rocky numbers

You never will beat my record

[fickle walrus]

4 espresso throughout the day then i was visiting a friend in the evening so i was chugging energy drinks and vodka to stay awake

[little halo]

#off-topic-bond-james-bond

[pseudo scaffold]

Of 1.t leters of black pure coffee and then a monster

[manic ravine]

It relates to how I play nms too

[little halo]

Good for you

[pseudo scaffold]

Yeah same

[manic ravine]

I'm too jittery to place objects

Why can't decorations be aligned straight?, snap mode

It's maddening when a wallight fixture is not straight and adjacent to the other one at the exact perfect angle and drives me insane

Ya feel me?

[normal pawn]

yeah fr

[manic ravine]

No adjacent chairs kinda bullshit too

[normal pawn]

its so annoying

[manic ravine]

Exactly

[wheat fern]

New update when?

[manic ravine]

WhenPigs fly

[icy coral]

at some point

[normal pawn]

yesterday

[wheat fern]

😔

[normal pawn]

next emoji will be target trust

[wheat fern]

Vy'keen are superior

[normal pawn]

nuh

theyre just big

[manic ravine]

Vykeen are honorble warriors usual,they value warrior's code

[little halo]

Check #nms-spoilers

[wheat fern]

And they are honest

[normal pawn]

they are honorable but not superior

[wheat fern]

Thanks

[little halo]

We're not allowed to say what we know from data mining here

[normal pawn]

evil

[lime haven]

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[normal pawn]

dont data mine

[manic ravine]

Did you used to be mod here, gumsk

[blazing wraith]

But can from wood mining? 😉

[little halo]

Wood mining can be reported on freely

[normal pawn]

ferrite dust

[manic ravine]

Wtf is ferrite even

[little halo]

And I would never want to be. I did my mod/admin gaming community time decades ago

[little halo]

Iron-based

[wheat fern]

Rock

[manic ravine]

Why steel is used in every single facet of technology and society

[normal pawn]

because steel is too expensive to buy

[little halo]

Because it's good at it

[manic ravine]

And why it not in nms?

[normal pawn]

fun fact: sean has to buy every material and fauna he puts on planets

[wheat fern]

Light no fire how I long for news

[little halo]

Steel is based on iron, which is based on the prefix "ferri", so it is

[normal pawn]

every wants news but no one wants olds

[fickle walrus]

Stronk

Handles a specific kind of stress very well

[manic ravine]

So does my mother

[wheat fern]

So does your mother

[fickle walrus]

So does their morhers

[little halo]

And my ferrous axe

[manic ravine]

We don't have any remote detonating bombs any? Ones for mining

[little halo]

Why would you need them?

[manic ravine]

Need isn't a want

[little halo]

That was very rudimentary mining technique

[manic ravine]

It was but I feel like it sure beats the terrain manipulator in terms of the amount of land moved , I mean it's no concern to me my groovy cannon is rapid fire

Geology cannon

Wth groovy cannon, that sounds like disco

[little halo]

Why are you trying to move land?

I think you fundamentally misunderstand the general point of the game

[manic ravine]

I want to get mountain to be flat land

[manic ravine]

The point of the game is whatever the hell I want it to be just being honest

[little halo]

The way you play the game is up to you, yes, but when you start asking why developers haven't done something, you have to ask why the game exists

[manic ravine]

The game is a universal sandbox

[little halo]

You play it that way, but that's not what the developers are thinking. They aren't thinking "I want to enable literally every kind of play possible"

[manic ravine]

Am I in the wrong idelogicaly

[little halo]

Not in terms of how you play, but in terms of what you are wanting developers to do

Play however you like, but try to understand what the developers are wanting to do with the game. Games are an artform and good games have a purpose and "story"

I say story in the sense that they are trying to do something

[late hull]

Hello fellow entities

[fickle walrus]

Good games do what i tell them to do, like turn their game into a factory game

[late hull]

I have learned that anomalies or travelers don't include everyone

[manic ravine]

I would like the games engine so maybe can , play with whatever I want and there be 0 story, just the available assets and code

[late hull]

What is the current discussion about?

[little halo]

Yeah, that's what you want, but not what the developers want. If you want that, you have to make it yourself, not ask why the developers haven't done that

[manic ravine]

True

I am beginning to get it

[fickle walrus]

Buy hello games

[little halo]

HG is cool about not minding you making whatever you want, but their motivation isn't bound by what other people want

[manic ravine]

But yeah keys to the kingdom I would never be satiated

[naive mist]

More importnatly. They are not bound to shareholders greed

[manic ravine]

Keys to the kingdom is metaphor

[little halo]

Look at the stories of Atlas, Artemis, Null, Apollo, Nada, Waking Titan - the developers want to make a point about positive nihilist existentialism in the form of a playable universe

And the Void Mother

[manic ravine]

I would pay to have a console command thingy like source engine games

[visual jolt]

most earthlike planet I've found so far. It does have super heated storms but the oceans are blue and so is the sky

[manic ravine]

Which would just be real-time editor

[dark ravine]

my friend is saying no mans sky is better the cyberpunk 2077 including phantom liberty

[normal pawn]

PLEASE SGARE THE GLYPHS

[manic ravine]

Am I mistaken if I said that this is one of the most versatile games of all time to modify

[normal pawn]

🤷

[visual jolt]

glyphs

[naive mist]

Good for him . Everyone should have own opinion

[normal pawn]

does it have decent fauna

or are they scary af

[visual jolt]

fauna copious 14 species

[normal pawn]

oh jeez

plenty of room for spiders

[visual jolt]

i'm gonna build a milk and egg farm here

[fickle walrus]

The games are incomparable

[normal pawn]

oo nice

ill do too

[visual jolt]

just don't do it in view of my base. I like the wilderness 🙂

[normal pawn]

nah i won't

[visual jolt]

but plenty of room on the entire planet

[little halo]

Yes, it is very much not that modifiable.

[normal pawn]

yeah its super big ill probably not find you

but even if i do i wont

ill be far away

[little halo]

Totally personal preference. They are vastly different games. It's like saying you like oranges more than poker.

[normal pawn]

oh uh what galaxy is that in

[manic ravine]

I apologize for my belligerent behavior

[little halo]

It's not belligerent at all. We're having a conversation

[normal pawn]

I was too dumb to notice

I thought it was just some goofy game

[manic ravine]

If I at all sounded oppositional

[little halo]

Some of it you need to look at the more optional lore that you won't run into unless you look for it. They don't beat you over the head with the message, which I appreciate.

[normal pawn]

interesting

[manic ravine]

The lore is deeper then thought I

The exocraft technician's backstory is sad

[normal pawn]

its like gumball lore

you dont notice much unless its in an episode that directly mentions it

[visual jolt]

euclid

[normal pawn]

its probably the best way to tell a story

[normal pawn]

thx

[little halo]

I like the H.P. Lovecraft style of 'the human mind can imagine far more horrific things than you can describe' storytelling

[manic ravine]

I didn't know you could really converse with the exocraft, multitool, science, and agriculture station workers? On a personal level

[little halo]

But HG are primarily gamers/devs, not authors, so the story isn't super polished, but it's good

[normal pawn]

yeah we gotta give them credit

if it were me I would've messed the story up alot

[manic ravine]

Were they good developers that were dealt a bad starting hand

[normal pawn]

yeah I guess so

[little halo]

I just dislike when people say there is little story or that it's shallow. That's like watching the movie The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, then saying the entire book series is shallow

[manic ravine]

It is not shallow

[normal pawn]

its very deep

and emotional

[icy coral]

they're different games entirely, strange comparison

[normal pawn]

eheu

what does that mean

what does eheu mean

[dark ravine]

yeah but idk what one to buy

[normal pawn]

no mans sky def, will last you a lifetime, literally.

[little halo]

HG fell victim to feature creep, had a flood that wiped out a lot of progress, were beholden to Sony for release date, ran out of money, had to publish, and fans overly misinterpreted everything that was said into a promise of that thing times 10. Mistakes all around.

[manic ravine]

So a bad hand?

[still roost]

Big Teddy Bear, 7.8 meters tall

[normal pawn]

won't believe me but

[little halo]

Rub his belly

[normal pawn]

theres still people who say the game is unpolished and messy on yt

they think its the same game that was at launch

[little halo]

I'm on Reddit, I believe almost anything

[still roost]

I did, and got milk all over me

[icy coral]

yeah those people will never be satisfied

[manic ravine]

Dealt a bad hand means having shit happen that messed things up

[normal pawn]

glyphs pls?

[icy coral]

i hope they're enjoying being milked for every dollar with star citizen

[normal pawn]

yeah

[still roost]

This Galaxy

[little halo]

Sean was too much an eager dev that wanted to do a billion things and shared that with people. Now they can't say anything to keep that from happening again.

He's not a PR expert

[normal pawn]

how far away is that

[manic ravine]

He's a very smart person

Or his team is

[still roost]

Galaxy 57

[normal pawn]

oh brother

I want a big teddy bear pet but its far away >:(

[normal pawn]

3 am motivation mindset

[still roost]

i could give an egg if your in perma

[normal pawn]

im not :(

[manic ravine]

Would youy have ever guessed nms would turn it's path around for the best?

[normal pawn]

if i saw the game at launch? no

it was surprising they recovered at all

[manic ravine]

It made me cry actually

[normal pawn]

wow

[manic ravine]

That's beautiful

It's inspiring

[little halo]

Given game dev in general, I wouldn't have even guessed they would make it better at all, let alone change it completely. I would have believed someone if they told me they would make it better, but would not have believed someone that it would be what it is now compared to launch.

[manic ravine]

Their success from the ashes made me literally cry the other day from just , pure awe, like, extremely inspirational, never stop and strife for better always

[little halo]

Like 1.6 or 2.0 is believable, but not likely. Anything beyond 2.0 is not even really believable in games

I love CP2077, but I don't think it's nearly as impressive of a change as NMS. They made it run and then made a paid DLC that made it better - cool.

[normal pawn]

yay

[manic ravine]

Can one use this games success story to inspire themselves

[azure crescent]

I mean, star citizen seems alright

[normal pawn]

I found a giant teddy bear glyph on reddit

[azure crescent]

Though it feels like they might have even bigger scope creep than nms ever did

[icy coral]

if i didnt have to pay real money for shit in a game that wasnt out yet i'd think the same thing

[normal pawn]

oi oi oi a eye eye

[manic ravine]

Launch nms must have been abyssal

[little halo]

Star Citizen is a decent game for the price of the base game, but completely disproportionate comparing how much money they've received and what they have produced

[icy coral]

Yeah honestly star citizen is hilarious to me

[little halo]

NMS at launch was fine, somewhat enjoyable for a while, if you take out all the hype

[icy coral]

so much money and all they got is an early access, still

and you have to pay extra for ships. lol

[normal pawn]

pay real money?

[icy coral]

yes

[normal pawn]

eww

stinky

[icy coral]

like imagine charging for ships in a space game, let alone one that's not finished and could never be

pubg style

the forever early access

[normal pawn]

:(

D:<

bad gam

nms better

does anyone have glyphs to a planet with pineapple fauna

[azure crescent]

Looking back at it, its funny to me that when I started playing nms, I was convinced that it must have a store with irl money somewhere.

[normal pawn]

haha

[azure crescent]

I saw quicksilver premium currency, saw that its used to buy cosmetics and decorations, and my mind just became convinced that it must be bought with irl money. I mean why else would it be there

[gaunt rune]

Ok chat question

How many times will need to repeat this waiting game for the living ship

[icy coral]

4 times i think

[azure crescent]

3 or 4 times

[icy coral]

it gets slightly shorter each time

but not by enough to meaningfully make it go any faster

[gaunt finch]

Not enough times to go insane , but just enough to be annoying

[visual jolt]

my mountain top evil villain lair. I'll come back and expand it later

[gaunt rune]

So 5?

[gaunt finch]

I honestly forgot

[visual jolt]

if i build a big empty fllat space of floors can the corvette land on it?

[gaunt finch]

I dont think so

[visual jolt]

ah I'll just have to park above the base then

[gaunt rune]

God dammit

[visual jolt]

how many of your put 3 cooking stations on your corvette so you can be churning away at your food while travelling?

[icy coral]

same

but uhhh

i usually have more than that lol

[visual jolt]

lol

[icy coral]

my main ship has i think 8

[visual jolt]

my corvette isn't that big yet

[icy coral]

yeah just checked

[tulip oar]

good night

[fickle walrus]

If ur corvette doesnt distort local gravity r u doing it right

[sleek quest]

Lads, it is time, I shall make the Super Destroyer in my main save

[fickle walrus]

Good luck

[restive geode]

Fish

[visual jolt]

in space engineers you can actually place machines that distort local gravity 😉

[little halo]

Doesn't all mass distort local gravity?

I know how to create a zero-gravity zone with a mod, but not sure I could do so to adjust gravity

I'm sure it's possible, I just don't know how off the top of my head

[visual jolt]

well yes but not enough to be noticeable unless your mass is planet sized (like your mom)

[little halo]

Heyyyyy, give credit where credit is due, gas giant sized

[late hull]

Yo relax

[little halo]

Come on, Sean, it's 09:30. Give us an emoji!

[visual jolt]

No one takes your mom jokes seriously

[waxen palm]

Your mom does

[little halo]

ooooooh, got em

[lime haven]

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[visual jolt]

my mom breached the Schwarzschild radius and collapsed into a black hole

[waxen palm]

Ok Karl

[visual jolt]

don't you hate it when you get a fishing mission but the point you have to reach to start it is nowhere near water

yeah theres water on the planet but not close

[little halo]

Dig down

If you're close enough to sea level, you can reach water before bedrock

[ivory yacht]

I've played for more than 70 hours, I've almost reached the end of the story, I've collected 2/3 of all types of resources using only the ship and my two legs. And I have a growing feeling that the game is still in early beta. I still don't understand why I should use all-terrain vehicles, various multitools, bases, mining plants (after all, you can just endlessly call your ship when you need something, move where and how conveniently, stack, take and create new resources). Why do I need this cosmetics, in fact, if I can do without all this (I want to ride animals, all-terrain vehicles, fly on different ships, but the game vaguely or even persistently says that I don't need all this and can do with just a little)? I played many survival games (of course, not on such a universal scale, but still), where the bases were mostly 'for beauty'. But in other survival games, the base is necessary, at least to accommodate the mandatory machines (for further step-by-step improvement and interdependent passage). Here, like a turtle, you can carry the whole house and machines with you. Yes, freedom of action is not bad. But still, I think that the game (the story part) should lead the player 'by the hand' (that is, in fact, be at least a little 'linear', and not so 'stellar', when you can start and continue with any ray line), with its sequential training tasks. The fact that recipes for creating various items from resources (food, metals, etc.) need to be constantly kept in mind is fundamentally wrong (a list of open recipes should appear and be updated in the game, and not on paper or in guides). Why use pets if you can get everything from wild animals (why ride them more than once?)? The game is too full 'optional factors.' Where to spend the millions earned - on cosmetics, ship improvements, bases? In fact, the whole game can be played on the initial ship.

And since there is some kind of step-by-step narration in the plot (revealing new secrets, mechanics, items, resources, etc.), then passing through using / involving all the items, mechanics in the game, should be mandatory (it's not right when the game allows you to unwittingly skip half the content, considering that this is not a high-speed passage, but a measured one).
I am waiting for your unbiased analysis, comments For and Against.

[mild marsh]

I dag down and reached the Underworld. What will happen if I throw this thing called "Guide Voodoo Doll" that I found into the lava?

also holy textwall

[visual jolt]

i have more than 200 hours and I'm not even part way through the main story because I enjoy doing all the side activities. most of them are "optional" but it really depends what you want out of the game

do I need to make a settlement or upgrade my freighter or use cooking? no, but its fun to do those things

this is not a game designed for rushing the main story

[normal pawn]

THE SECURITY SYSTEM TAKES CONTROL OF THE GEK'S SHIP

[visual jolt]

i didn't think of that. I finally found this tiny lake. btw you can build a tiny cuboid and a door and fish like this while not being effected by the storm. thhats handy

[normal pawn]

lemme summarize it

he doesnt like optional gameplay

youre all welcome

[little halo]

Yeah, probably works with the portable safety room thingy. Works with a moonpool as well

[little halo]

Wait, you really are asking "why do I need this cosmetics"?

Cosmetics are, by definition, only cosmetic. You don't need them for anything. Do you question the existence of anything not mandatory?

[visual jolt]

my new goal is to eat every type of fish

one of each

[little halo]

Yes, you can finish the game with the initial ship, but many players don't want to, which drives them to get other ships, which is a gameplay loop for them. If you only want to do the mandatory stuff, you still get dozens of hours, which is a very good value. If you want to do the other stuff, you get more.

[ivory yacht]

I'm not saying that the passage should be rushed. But artificially stretching it, slowing it down, by the lack of instructions for this passage, is also not right. The training explains it, just a few mechanics, and then they send you into the void and do whatever you want. You can get resources, items, weapons, ships of the last levels at the very beginning of the game (and in fact there are no levels of development in the game, in their usual understanding) - this is wrong, in my opinion.

[little halo]

It's not an attempt at stretching. It's an attempt at just giving you some guidance and letting you do whatever you want

[waxen palm]

Sandbox with a story

I think it hits the middle ground pretty well tbh - if you want to rush the story, you can. But you can also wander indefinitely

[visual jolt]

what? the main story is always available as a thread to follow apart from a very few times when you just have to warp once or twice and it comes backa again

[little halo]

Hell, you can't even get rid of the main story after finishing it, much to many people's chagrin

[visual jolt]

right there is always a mission listed. except like once it says 'go explore' but then as soon as you land on a new planet you get another mission popup?

[little halo]

I am perfectly fine saying the game isn't for everyone, but the game isn't "wrong" for not being for a particular person

Honestly, 85% or so is a pretty fair rating for this game. I think 15% of people wouldn't enjoy the game.

[fickle walrus]

Hello

[waxen palm]

Adopting that gal

New bodyguard

[fickle walrus]

Ackthuwally every mass distorts local gravity.. just not a lot

[little halo]

With that snout, how could you not?

It's 10:30, Sean; where is my emoji?

Gleam, call him

[visual jolt]

can you interact in any way with the giant leaping dune worms or are they just background flavor?

give us an update where we can tame them and ride them

[little halo]

They're just there to make you crap your pants the first time, then yell "shut the hell up!" every time after. Gameplay and all

[waxen palm]

Alright

[visual jolt]

do they do damage if they land on you?

[little halo]

No

I'd have to check if they have any collision at all

[visual jolt]

i think it would be neat if they left valuable resources at the holes they come out of

[little halo]

Oh, that might be possible, steal the meteor impact effect

But they usually go back into the ground quite far away from the player

[visual jolt]

do meteors actually leave resources? I never bothered chasing the landing spot

[little halo]

Yeah, the ones with impact circles do

I think sandworms are programmed to spawn 500 or 1000u from the player and always jump away from the player

I'd have to check the files to get the exact numbers, though

[wheat grove]

Yes, meteor storm around you will sometime drop some resources. Don't bother chasing those faraway meteors

[nocturne umbra]

Any of you know if there's a record for "longest bridge" in NMS?

[normal pawn]

the nose feels photoshopped in

[visual jolt]

you'd be limited by the max base size

roughly 1000 units ?

[ivory yacht]

My problem/dilemma is that since childhood I have loved space and fantastic trips to other worlds. And in fact, I consider NMS to be quite original and even ingenious somewhere. But the fact that the gameplay is so non-tunnel-like; many things, objects, and devices can just be ignored - it haunts me. I want and love to build bases, get animals, different vehicles, mining stations, but this game has too many workarounds and seems to say that I don't need all this to pass. I think this is simply due to the fact that all these phased innovations were not harmoniously implemented by updates (they did not become an integral part of the game, but remained separate additions, as dlc for entertainment). If you want, make the game a little easier, more convenient, and more diverse for yourself, or don't do it if you want. I want to say that all these all-terrain vehicles, different ships (for war, trade), and animals should be mandatory (and not just to show off for one mission). It should be more difficult for me to play without all this, but in fact, I can easily do without it, just running around the planet (flying from point to point).

[graceful jolt]

how can i get a community posted in the server?

[visual jolt]

did you do any of the side missions? the side missions force you to use the exocraft

and to set up farming, and build settlements

also the expeditions feature the latest gameplay added

like did you even do the trace of metal storyline?

[tame lava]

ho ho ho! merry christmas!

[sleek quest]

Faeceum farming

[normal pawn]

everything being mandatory makes the game feel like a shortcut taken, nms is ime a sandbox game and forcing things is not gonna go well with it, for example, theres music discs in minecraft yet you can ignore them, theres maps in minecraft yet you can ignore them, little optional things are the ones that give the game soul and not just a linear story game.

[visual jolt]

complaining the game doesn't use all the mechanics but then not doing the missions added to use those mechanics

[ivory yacht]

The thing is, I'm talking about a story walkthrough. Additional tasks are optional tasks.

[visual jolt]

then you've only played 10 percent of the game

[normal pawn]

but the game isnt focused on that story

its just a part of the game

nms is ime a sandbox

not a linear story game where everything is required

[visual jolt]

the "optional tasks" add a bunch of lore which expands on the main story

[normal pawn]

exactly

[visual jolt]

seeing them as "optional" is the problem

[normal pawn]

yeah

what you want is a linear progression game

what nms is

is a sandbox

[visual jolt]

I would absolutely be in favor of them adding a new major storyline that uses more of the mechanics added since launch.... and call it "main story part 2"

[normal pawn]

for example in minecraft all you need is basic iron tools and getting blaze rods and ender pearls and boom main story done

but you dont quit

you make more stuff

you explore more

its the same here

[ivory yacht]

Okay, I'm going to play some more, maybe in a hundred hours I'll still taste this diamond 😉.

[visual jolt]

did you even do the autophage missions and the missions to unlock purple stars?

those are continuations of the main story

[ivory yacht]

Not yet).

[normal pawn]

yes

theyre continueationsings

besides

making everything mandatory would ruin the structure of the game

we have 18 quintillion something planets for a reason while in quests at most you will visit 100

[visual jolt]

i guess lordek also ignored the under a rebel star and emergency beacon missions ?

what triggers the start of the trace of metal mission? is it related to having a settlement?

[little halo]

Not being required to do somethign is the exact opposite of tunnel vision. Everything is open before you. There is a path that you can follow, but it's totally up to you.

[manic ravine]

I enjoy their company

They just saying hi when they make the roar

Shaihuluda are friendly

[ivory yacht]

It's been a long time since this game has been 'revealed' 🙄.

[sudden canopy]

I think this coming week would be a good time for an emoji drop ... unless we got one already and I missed it

[manic ravine]

🥶

[normal pawn]

emoji will be target trust

it was revealed to me by a nightmare where shrek attacked me

[sudden canopy]

Were you in his swamp?

[normal pawn]

yes

[sudden canopy]

Ah, lol

[manic ravine]

[normal pawn]

oi oi oi a eye eye

[open lantern]

there might be PINNED messages in the channel. i dont think most of us know offhand

[manic ravine]

Who or what inspired you to find and start this nomanssky

[manic ravine]

The 'galaxy core' pathway is bullshit, just follow a straight line and head toward the brightness object which is the center of galaxy😉

I'm like screw your maze

[little halo]

Yeah, that's what I do

[manic ravine]

Ever travel to edge of a galaxy instead of center?

[little halo]

Yeah, I have a system on the edge of Odyalutai

[little halo]

Abandoned green star system I named Banner's End

[manic ravine]

Anything on top or bottom of a galaxy ?

[little halo]

Haven't done top or bottom, since they are closer didn't feel like it

[manic ravine]

I feel like the least place you will ever encounter anyone is the outer rim

[tame lava]

asymmetrical enjoyers?

[woven rampart]

Yes!

[open lantern]

i have found the link soory it was a hunt: https://discord.com/channels/146101654981312513/1418618288208085114

[little halo]

Noooo, stupid b-wing designs!!! 😉

Just kidding. I just hate that I can't make a custom b-wing ship rotate on landing

[manic ravine]

You wanna know something ironic and hilarious, if you go to galaxy center during an expedition, you end up back on the ship/planet you started the whole expedition on, completely unharmed, no items lost

[little halo]

Yeah, blackholes in expeditions used to do the same

[manic ravine]

But you can still put where you wanna go manually and still get there

But that's hilarious imagine somebody who thinks they are being smart for trying to do it only to find out they got sent back to the starting expedition planet

Can you imagine the look on their face

Especially if they spent real many hours doing so

I bet you people have done that and discovered the whole intentional or unintentional troll hg put

Is it a troll?

[little halo]

Completely unintentional, I'm sure

They probably put it in as a failsafe to get people back on the expedition path

"Something weird happened and we don't want you lost away from the expedition path, so here you go!"

[manic ravine]

Or as a way to tell them "look you wasted your time, congratulations"

[little halo]

That's not HG style

[manic ravine]

That's how I felt first time

I was livid

Quit for 2 days

[little halo]

player predator variety mod is almost done

Butterfly predators here we come!

[manic ravine]

if you haven't figured it out, I'm an angry person

[little halo]

Might want to work on that. Buddhist meditation is good

[manic ravine]

But you noticed?

[little halo]

I can't meditate, but I do like buddhism

Not really, can't tell much from text online

[manic ravine]

I'm scared of an update due to there always being a cross save problem from Xbox and PC

[last furnace]

Good morning NMSians

How are we all?

[manic ravine]

Tired

And angry at my game

[last furnace]

Oh dear!

[woven rampart]

😭

[manic ravine]

Stupid cursor sensitivity

It's always too little or too high

[little halo]

Try changing the DPI then adjusting mouse speed after

[manic ravine]

What is a personal recommendation for the sensitivity

To where you don't accidentally move it too fast but also don't take a million years

Certainly not default

[lime haven]

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[manic ravine]

Do you have instant destroy on?

Instant destroy is a must have

If you wanna get rid of shitty upgrades and reroll them

[woven rampart]

Make sure you turn off pointer precision in windows

[manic ravine]

Inventory one I care about

Not the turn or ship

[woven rampart]

Hm...

[manic ravine]

Unless I'm stupid and there is a shortcut key

Don't have to drag n drop

Shift click right?

[little halo]

Pointer precision can help for some things, but be annoying for others

[manic ravine]

What percent do you personally haveinventory cursor speed and

Dc about the others

There needs to be a mod that highlights where the optimal spots you should put your modules at , becaue nms resources site is bull

For adjacency

And I mean where exactly every single multitool module should go