#no-mans-sky

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keen ginkgo
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Neither are generic, they defined the genre, lol thats why I was confused

plush shard
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Gather>upgrade>repeat? Guess I'm playing No Mans Fallout Sky

narrow vigil
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Like how Beth put build and settlement mechanics in Fallout because why not

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But it's not the core of those games. They may have crafting and gathering but they are still story driven and often linear RPGs

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It is the core of the game if you're talking about this game, minecraft, ark, Terraria and others

manic ravine
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I would make my attack dramatic, like you know how on gas giants there's those random electrical storms that look like the size of nuclear bombs? yeah that shit would be happening around me to let people know im about to fire

keen ginkgo
manic ravine
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man tat would be so cool if it wasnt clientside only

sand jasper
keen ginkgo
manic ravine
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wouldnt it be cool if you could cause thunderstorms before firing ur strongest gun?

sand jasper
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i do like sandbox tho

narrow vigil
manic ravine
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nobody thinks that a cool effect idea?

narrow vigil
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You don't have to if you don't want to. But you are locked out of content if you don't engage in it. Because it's required.

manic ravine
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ah , guess im too original

keen ginkgo
narrow vigil
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In a lot of the RPGs and linear games that implement crafting and gathering they truly make an optional. And you can get to the game without much of it

chrome rock
manic ravine
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im gonna make a mod that does what i am describing

narrow vigil
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The beginnings of this game was single player Minecraft with spaceships. Almost everything else has come after.

sharp raft
narrow vigil
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They even tried to steer the game early on towards the horror survival direction like Minecraft was going to.

coral notch
narrow vigil
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They all just learned Gamers prefer fantastical and beautiful rather than spooky horror

keen ginkgo
manic ravine
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Ok so , the mod would be , prior to firing ur blaze javelin, the sky turns dark, and the longer you hold it down, electrical storms begin happening, and a loud sound happens , then like 2 billion damage and a giant explosion happens

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ill make that if it kills me

sharp raft
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@narrow vigil Mitey just put some stuff in Alpha Site that makes it feel more like home. Mitey swear.. will build a permadeath community heheh

coral notch
sharp raft
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oh shoot. should settle on that one world that was good weather and less sentinels. hmm green grass and blue sky..

chrome rock
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Do you guys know if LNF will have nms style sp with mp, mostly mp or full on mmo? Has it been mentioned?

narrow vigil
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I don't see them going the MMO direction.

chrome rock
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God I hate autocorrect

narrow vigil
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You're talking about upgrading their server in infrastructure and changing how they handle the hosting of multiplayer

coral notch
manic ravine
chrome rock
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Was really hoping it to be mmo

narrow vigil
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That would be a big change for them. And I think the cost would be too high for them to eat themselves. Without having to source more revenue streams.

chrome rock
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Change isn't bad, would probably bring a much higher playerbase as a mmo

coral notch
narrow vigil
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It's as if they're intentionally keeping themselves small. So they never have to worry about expansion, bloating infrastructure or executives/investors

manic ravine
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and then change the size of the laser beam to be like 10,000 times its size (you can do this)

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its in the files

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you can actually change those values

plush shard
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I would leave NMS if it turns into a MMO

manic ravine
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clientside only unfortunately

manic ravine
chrome rock
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That's one thing I think sucks is it's all clientside

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Save editing is bleh

coral notch
manic ravine
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again unfortunately

coral notch
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How would you even go about making it server sided?

manic ravine
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no idea

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but man that would be soo cool

chrome rock
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Design it to be server sided? Like the vast majority of other modern rpgs

manic ravine
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i know the sand worm mod isnt only clientsided

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because my friend complained about all the sand worms

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and im like oh shit you can see that too?

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was on a water world where thats not possible

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and there were like a few of them every second due to me changing the values

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crashed myself

keen ginkgo
coral notch
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That moment when HG won’t even make cape physics server side and now we are trying to figure out how to make the god damn wrath of Zeus server sided 🤣

manic ravine
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no im serious , you remember that snow planet on beachhead where theres like 0 sand worms? well he was seeing all of them and hearing them at the same time i was and i have the mod that gum made installed

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was in vc with me and was saying wtf

sharp raft
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oh yay! it has water! ::quickly settles to encourage other people to come:: verdanant planet.. nice weather from time to time. sentinels but they aren't nearly as aggressive

manic ravine
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so yeah the sand worm mod works online

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that must have been disturbing

chrome rock
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The amount of planets you encounter with aggressive sentinels isn't affected by difficulty, correct? It's all generated before you visit systems

manic ravine
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randevus 4 on beachhead , that snow world, i tested it out, when the mod is uninstalled no sand worms spawn, but when its on, two of them happen every 10 seconds or so, and i didnt even tell him about it he was like oh wtf is that

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yes i know they can happen on all planets

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but not that frequency

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what would be really scary is if it happened on a deep water world, oh thats right it did

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now that's something scary that the under-water needs more of

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needs more sound effects too

chrome rock
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Underwater sentinels

manic ravine
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that's nothing

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nothing compared to what i would have in store

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heheheh

chrome rock
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I want to blast some eel looking sentinels with my nautilon

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Pew pew

manic ravine
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boss battle

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music would change too

chrome rock
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Like what's the practical use of the nautilon cannon?

manic ravine
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exactly

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if there was boss stuff that would be valuble

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plus you can already fire ur guns in water

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so knda dont even need it

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it does less damage then ur multitool guns

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or at least in my case, but i can change that ahahahah

chrome rock
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Yea but movement speed is bad underwater compared to nautilon

manic ravine
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not for me

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infact nautlion slows me down

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and that thing orbits the planet

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god why do i make everything so extreme? am i that bored?

upper tendon
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Expedition schedule on what time zone?

chrome rock
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!exptime

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manic ravine
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i like how i can make all my shit modded in multiplayer on nms, and i have yet to be banned, but on a game like a fps shooter, or hell, even minecraft, the moment ur even suspected , dont have to actually have anything, just simply suspected of having a mod, its curtains for you

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thats what i love about nms

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so much freedom

narrow vigil
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Today on "how did I never see that?"

When you are loading up your save file in the game you can see the remaining expedition time in the bottom right corner.

manic ravine
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today on , "what will yutaka break" , find out , or not

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why did HG make nms such a literal weapons of mass destruction simulator

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*if you mod

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such a great engine that didnt deserve its bad rep

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its as moldable as clay

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sure theres stuff you cannot do, buut that's a hard bridge to cross, and theres so much in between

vital raptor
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Anyone else having problems with NMS on Mac OS? I haven’t been able to play in a couple of months.

manic ravine
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the person behind whatever engine this game uses , id put them up there with einstien because they made literal perfection, i mean yeah there's glitches, but the game is so modder friendly

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take that unreal engine

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cant even come close

rigid void
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Where can I find exosuit expansion modules again?

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I want to say it’s from the various buildings you can get planet charts for but

blazing wraith
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Note if you find any at a Minor Settlement for example, each time you save and reload NPCs restock their wares, so you could get an arbitrary number.

sharp raft
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Good starter home is it not? Verdant planet. Ever-resent sentinels (but haven't attacked me yet!) salvagable scrap. Water. Decent flora and fauna! oh.. and PERMADEATH! Join Mitey! Build your way in the universe an community shall be ours!

rigid void
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It’d be nice to have somewhere to call home while I stock up on supplies

dreamy kayak
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hey guys

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just got off work

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man I feel tired though lol

sharp raft
chrome rock
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Realistically all you need to do galactic center on pd is getting to the first glyph

dreamy kayak
rigid void
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!myfriendcode

lime havenBOT
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naive mist
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And u can get it fast if your starter system station has a traveller.

sharp raft
chrome rock
sharp raft
lime havenBOT
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@sharp raft Did you mean !MyFriendCode?

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3A01-WWS6-ENYGP
(@sharp raft)

dreamy kayak
chrome rock
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Love that nectar island

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And a good experimental

rigid void
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I shall add yours at my earliest convenience Mitey, got some things to do this evening

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Unfortunately

sharp raft
junior trench
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How did i only JUST figure out you can use the pulse drive with A & D

sharp raft
rigid void
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Shall do

sharp raft
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of course the invitation is open to anyone else in Permadeath! Mitey's using this planet to look for salvagable scrap and finally build a starship

dreamy kayak
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i might consider it, if you got a camp set up already with stuff

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I already did permadeath on xbox

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dont want to experience the beginnning again lol

sharp raft
sharp raft
open lantern
sharp raft
manic ravine
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oh but editing a file, you can do oh so much... so much..

dreamy kayak
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nice

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yeah i remember those days of permadeath

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think it took me like 2 deaths to finally get going

open lantern
dreamy kayak
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once you are fixed up its gets easy

manic ravine
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not me

dreamy kayak
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but before that its tough

sharp raft
manic ravine
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but then again , i'm autistic so its hard for me to lose interest in something

sharp raft
open lantern
rigid void
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I’m kinda doing it just for the last achievement but it has made me appreciate the game a little more

sharp raft
rigid void
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High risk-high reward

rigid void
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Reach the core in permadeath

sharp raft
manic ravine
sharp raft
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ohh it will be cool if both @dreamy kayak and @rigid void end up living around the same body of water.. mmm the teamwork! the progress!

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and the making sure PVP is turned off. heh

dreamy kayak
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yeah maybe i dont do neutron gun on this one

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maybe just scatter blaster or something like that

open lantern
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i have done PD there is no safety for game glitching

sharp raft
dreamy kayak
open lantern
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bolt caster baby all the way tot he end

sharp raft
dreamy kayak
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that was neutron gun I did

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when I tk'd whats her name

sharp raft
sharp raft
dreamy kayak
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lol

dreamy kayak
sharp raft
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you wants Mitey to shoot when you in the way? lords.

dreamy kayak
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ok that makes more sense then

sharp raft
open lantern
dreamy kayak
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i was freaking out that neutron gun can tk people lol

open lantern
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no really they wre in three attempts! HA

sharp raft
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Mitey still using C class multitool. nanites to upgrade. ugh. but will get there

umbral sequoia
# sharp raft Live forever.. the core jump one 🙂

A lot easier now with portals and corvettes make finding graves quite simple. Many new players will never know how to do it legit...finding an S explorer, putting together some solid upgrades and warping to the center.

open lantern
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back then there were creators making these crazy vids iron man no ship challenges

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i'd gotten 15-18 hours in one

sharp raft
open lantern
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the last one i lost was 37 hours

manic ravine
sharp raft
# open lantern the last one i lost was 37 hours

oh my gosh. Well if it makes you feel any better.. Mitey died 5 hours in because.. well.. Mitey had to go to the bathroom and partner did not keep an eye out for sentinels... and well.. they pew pew

open lantern
sharp raft
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Thats why Mitey wants to get parts.. to create a rescue corvette.

sharp raft
manic ravine
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pretty easy to mod when you can do it in notepad...

sharp raft
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Allllmost got @dreamy kayak convinced Mitey thinks 🙂

dreamy kayak
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yeah ill log on now, sorry just feeling a bit sick today

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toilet time after work was no bueno

open lantern
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i have been Multiplaying with my PS5 guy a lot over three years and it has it's weirds, but in all works pretty well

sharp raft
open lantern
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it was really good to see how far we got in beach head

chrome rock
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Just remember all mt and ship placements on normal are the same on permadeath

sharp raft
open lantern
umbral sequoia
sharp raft
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ohh @dreamy kayak is loading in! Mitey preparing for rescue

dreamy kayak
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im loading in

chrome rock
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As long as you have a Corvette to call you can be dumped out of someone elses Corvette and just appear in your driver seat

open lantern
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takl about jumping off a corvette - my buddy was impatient getting in the atmosphere and bailed on me, shot past me like a freakin rocket tap tap jet pack and landed unharmed beat me to surface by 20-30 seconds

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which is forever in NMS time

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the other night they were talking about the time corvettes save normal play - not waiting on animations is huge

umbral sequoia
chrome rock
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I thought it was only Corvette, good to know

open lantern
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the one small thing corvettes changed was how much damages we take in quiet space

umbral sequoia
plush shard
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Expedition SpeedRun mode on

manic ravine
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this expedition sucked ngl

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eh still kinda fun

naive mist
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What?

manic ravine
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not as fun as breached

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or corvette

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breached was great

umbral sequoia
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Inside the derelict only 20 minutes but outside my character could space walk all day...literally.

naive mist
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MATH! SeanBomination

hybrid sierra
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🔢

timber haven
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narrow vigil
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Open sides and teleporter access directly off the cockpit is absolutely necessary. Can't do without it

cloud schooner
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umbral sequoia
narrow vigil
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It's why I also usually have only two storage units and swap out what I need in the moment. I hate walking all over a big Corvette. To tighten clunky

manic ravine
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you did well

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red is my fav color

open lantern
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right after getting corvette i was on an airless and the monstrosity punted me to space... so weird

timber haven
umbral sequoia
# manic ravine thats so cool

Thanks. I tried to design it first and foremost to have all the upgrades I wanted, space for everything, mostly all on one level so I don't have to deal with stairs(though I do have one set of stairs to get to the exit ramp, and maximum cockpit visibility.

umbral sequoia
open lantern
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what i find frustrating with the corvette link and "Dead" parts they don't have reliable side snaps - i mean heck it's a block to connect things to, why won't a wing or motor or GUN mount on thhe side of it

narrow vigil
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9 reactors and 6 guns in that little thing

open lantern
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and you can't flip the cheap reactor to make them neat

narrow vigil
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With a backwards, forwards and 90° rotation in the same space you can put three reactors on top of each other. Shrinking the needed space for all those different reactors and the resulting profile of the Corvette.

umbral sequoia
# narrow vigil Space for everything? 😂

No space for all the corvette tech. And there's quite a bit I have on mine...Corvette body attachments: 6x shield attachments, 3 engines, 3 landing gears, 3 weapons, and 3 hyperdrive reactors.

narrow vigil
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It built right your sacrificing nothing with a small corvette. Just saving yourself time walking around inside of it

narrow vigil
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All of them meshed into each other.

serene iron
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wooooohooo I just got my first Venator

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and it's the T2 one.

queen ridge
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How’s everyone doing?

umbral sequoia
serene iron
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nah, you can install however many you like, but only the first three count in the grid.

narrow vigil
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I mean if the final argument is manipulating build mechanics you're going to lose that argument in this game. That's like saying glitch building is wrong when it comes to Base building.

timber haven
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I know you can accidentally stuff parts together without trying, so not hard to see it actually working.

narrow vigil
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Yep

umbral sequoia
narrow vigil
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The parts are still there. Did you think I removed them?

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Like the zenith reactor is one place forward, one place backwards and another one placed 90°. All on top of each other so all three of them are there and all three of them are in my tech slots

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I didn't delete the parts after the fact. If I did that it would disappear from my tech slot and I wouldn't get the stat boost.

serene iron
timber haven
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So many of those parts can mesh together...
I didn't try on mine but could probably shrink the reactor mess on top of mine just looked odd unless covered and out of sight.

narrow vigil
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Hell the reactor for Shields meshes with everything so badly. It's almost as if it's completely invisible

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A good chunk of our Corvette parts are just a small physical snap point with meshable visual assets surrounding it.

serene iron
queen ridge
umbral sequoia
narrow vigil
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Well in that case you only get a maximum of three in your Tech slots

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The rest are just cosmetic

serene iron
queen ridge
timber haven
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Early version of my corvette...

narrow vigil
umbral sequoia
serene iron
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I've got six because symmetry

timber haven
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After the retrofit...

narrow vigil
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That is my whole point. You can build a slimmed down inner core with all the tech you need inside of it. And a small frame around that core

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I'm not flying away around that hodge-podge Corvette 😂

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That was just its bare Bones before adding all of the hull pieces

timber haven
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It looks better from underneath

narrow vigil
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This is also that exact same inner core with a different shell around it

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So I have a replicable inner core with everything Tech wise necessary. And I can just build around that core to change it up.

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Rather than just building a whole new Corvette from the ground up.

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Again. Same core just different hull

brazen lantern
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@steep smelt
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timber haven
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Im probably going to try messing with mine tonight if I get a chance, planning on a second one more specialized but have to think about it.

narrow vigil
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With my big Corvettes I have to move a lot of stuff around to change the looks of them. With this one I just strip off the outside and replace it with something new. While leaving the inner parts with all the essentials intact

umbral sequoia
# timber haven After the retrofit...

That works...though I'd try to cover up the hyperdrive reactors...they look too blocky. I hid two by building them umder the ship, covered up by cosmetic bits, and I installed a dish on top of the one on the top of the ship. I didn't like how blocky and weird they look because you can't paint them and they glow so they stick out like a sore thumb.

timber haven
keen ginkgo
narrow vigil
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Yep

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But it sure isn't cheating 😂

keen ginkgo
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Though i find that the cetus reactor kinda meshes well, I genuinely never use it aside from looks because it doesnt have adjacency with anything but itself

narrow vigil
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And it's damn near unnecessary.

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I've never once lost my shield in a corvette. And I'm just using the basic shield Tech with no Tech upgrades attached.

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I know they already had one but with these Corvettes we do need a new combat update. Something that balances out how strong they are

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Hell just scale it up. Recognize we are in a Corvette and increase their strength and number

umbral sequoia
# narrow vigil I've never once lost my shield in a corvette. And I'm just using the basic shiel...

I always want to have my ships as sturdy as possible. Nothing comes close to getting through my shields now but who knows how combat will change in the future...last thing you want is a dark souls style update to catch you with shields lacking. I always go out of my way to max them though mostly with 0 or 1 SC slot into shields depending on the ship...it's usually 1 SC slot on all ships except my warp explorer and my fighter.

narrow vigil
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If they ever drop that update I'll just take one of the stacks of shield modules out of storage and equip them.

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Same with phase beams. Best we got now but it's also best to have infra knife Tech ready to go. Because they will eventually change phase beams

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Roll it now and package it for later

umbral sequoia
narrow vigil
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I highly doubt if they ever introduce a new combat update they will take the difficulty to the level that top Max x-class shield/weapon Tech will be necessary.

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This game will never be that difficult.

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"Where were you when Hello games turned no man's Sky into Elite dangerous?" Sean2

umbral sequoia
# narrow vigil This game will never be that difficult.

Probably not but better too much than too little. Plus there are only so many things worth doing once you've done everything in the game. Hunting/building and kitting maxed ships, MTs, freighter and frigate fleet, and exocraft is one of my top activities. Even my exosuit has tech I spent many hours getting an optimizing.

quiet crow
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Yo I only have like 9 hours in NMS is there any tips u guys have for me?

narrow vigil
keen ginkgo
narrow vigil
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Yeah I went there 😆

umbral sequoia
timber haven
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I like the shields being good on my ships but they dont seem to get as much use as I thought.

narrow vigil
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I don't mind doing either one myself. To each their own

quiet crow
umbral sequoia
keen ginkgo
narrow vigil
timber haven
keen ginkgo
umbral sequoia
narrow vigil
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Visually obvious is a loose term 😂

quiet crow
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Like is said im pretty new

narrow vigil
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Hell look at Hash's bases

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So much of his stuff is just items jammed under the floor simulating something else by sticking above.

quiet crow
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Also how do i build a corvette?

narrow vigil
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Freaking used tent poles as table legs with 90% of the tent under the floor....

stark tendon
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are these sentinal ships good to repair im new to the game and im almost done fixing it

keen ginkgo
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I guess i mean something like whether a player could recreate something just by looking at it

narrow vigil
quiet crow
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Ok

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I have around 1 million

narrow vigil
# quiet crow Ok

You'll need a cockpit, landing pads, access bay, hab/ walkway, one reactor, one booster and one weapon. Once you have your first it's much easier to collect parts. Since you can scan and shoot them from the air.

timber haven
quiet crow
stark tendon
timber haven
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The starter ship is still usable all the way through if you want, main thing the sentinel ships had up until corvettes came along is they can stop and hover in the atmosphere.

umbral sequoia
# timber haven The starter ship is still usable all the way through if you want, main thing the...

Ehhhh...I don't know about that. I mean you could dump 85k nanites in it to upgrade it to S but is the damage roll even good? If not then do you at least have 3 SC slots together to fortify a weapon? Is the shield roll good? Any naturally spawned S class fighter in a non-pirate system will have within 1% of max damage bonus, with a bit of luck it has better than average shield roll and you immediately have better without having to blow 85k nanites on the Radiant Pillar.

keen ginkgo
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All ive heard is that the radiant pillar is pretty good when upgraded, but idk anything specific

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But either way, the starting ship is usable through the entire game

narrow vigil
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I used it all through an abandoned survival run. Yeah there's better options but it's still viable.

keen ginkgo
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Ngl I feel like any time I start a new save from here on (aside from expeditions) I'm gonna gun for a corvette first thing

umbral sequoia
keen ginkgo
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Hold up

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Types of starships have launch thruster efficiency?

narrow vigil
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When it comes to survival, perms death and abandoned I feel Corvettes partially enhanced those modes while significantly taking away from them. Like claiming expedition rewards from the Quicksilver vendor.

keen ginkgo
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Don't forget that new players gotta be kept in mind for difficulty

umbral sequoia
narrow vigil
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The difficulty slide in PD and survival is definitely reduced with a Corvette at least

keen ginkgo
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This is not true, tbh, though the main example im thinking of is the personal exocraft summoning tech

hasty delta
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frigate expeditions being interrupted until I get back ingame and interact with the expedition has gotta be the lamest game design
If I don't respond after 30 minutes it should just continue, pain in the butt

keen ginkgo
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But theres also the thing you gotta consider when talking about progression in games like these

junior trench
keen ginkgo
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And?

narrow vigil
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"No real endgame content"

Best Ongoing Game 2025 🎉

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The end game is what you make it.

keen ginkgo
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This kinda reminds me of that one minecraft video where the guy complained that players can access ancient cities on day one

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Like... this isnt that kind of game

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The core gameplay isnt progression its exploration, discovery, and creativity

narrow vigil
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Step one: dig down

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It's not that serious

quaint shard
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hell no

narrow vigil
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It has more of a combat difficulty and threat to back that need up though.

quaint shard
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within the first like 10 minutes you can get to the second highest tier of progression in terms of gear

narrow vigil
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We don't have that need

quaint shard
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(diamond) and enchantment comes right after that

narrow vigil
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The radiant pillar would piss itself in front of the warden....

#

Laughs at dreadnoughts

quaint shard
#

i mean, i beat it with a bow and arrows with no armor lol i just went high and shot it dead

keen ginkgo
#

Progression isnt the core of either game

#

Both minecraft and nms use progression as a guide more than a restriction

quaint shard
crimson oasis
#

if there anyone willing to maybe help me get some units? im new.

quaint shard
#

but is the pirate dread thing with a starter ship the experience of most players? while yes it doesnt need cheesing most people dont do it with a starter ship

#

also, nice pfp 😭 i forgot to mention

umbral sequoia
#

Holy crap I was looking through my screenshots for the ship I did my permadeath run to the center with and I couldn't find it then, just found it now...sadly it was not quite finished...still had to install the emeril and indium drives in it when I took this screenshot but holy crap man. The memories of 2019 NMS hit hard lol:

quaint shard
#

imo there is kinda some challenge

#

like not in the conventional sense of difficulty, but more in the way that its really repetitive and getting a shit ton of materiels for every upgrade and everything costs alot and takes alot of time

#

space combat is just annoying to me

narrow vigil
#

It was like going against fighter jets in a flying minivan

quaint shard
#

especially on mkb

umbral sequoia
#

I had no problem with it and I played since launch in August 2016.

quaint shard
#

sine

umbral sequoia
#

You were mostly just vulnerable before you got upgrades going but beyond that combat wasn't a problem.

crimson oasis
#

well if anyone wants to help me get units please message me today.

desert sun
keen ginkgo
#

I dont get offended at the criticism of lack of challenge, I got more annoyed with the "enforced progression" idea, even though you probably didnt intend that

umbral sequoia
#

I got killed a few times when I was upgrading my ship to 48 slots in the launch version because I kept trying to fly ships without repairing their shields to the next crash site. I wasn't going to own most of those ships for more than 5 minute anyway so I only fixed launch thruster and pulse drive lol.

royal orchid
#

can you stack 3 or 2 of each reactor?

narrow vigil
umbral sequoia
# royal orchid can you stack 3 or 2 of each reactor?

For corvettes? Yes but it's not wise to just cram all the corvette tech you can because those will take up a lot of your tech slots so you're going to have to give up something somewhere...if you cram all corvette tech you won't have much space in your tech slots for anything else.

narrow vigil
#

It seems like you can fit a lot more in there early on. But once you start getting ship trails in bobbleheads you run out of space quickly

manic ravine
#

i invented a machinegun geology cannon

#

and now im orbitally bombarding

#

AHAHHAHHAHAH

umbral sequoia
manic ravine
#

I AM DESTROYER OF WORLDS

#

laughs evily

#

ive never seen this before

#

i searched all over nexus mods for something like this , and i seem to be the only one of an asshat enough to mess up the game that much, but its all for science

#

this works online too, but i would never use it

blazing gale
#

can i found the S class of it ?

#

or it always be C ?

manic ravine
#

please watch my video to see why im yellinhg

#

why im so happy

blazing gale
#

its from dream aerial mission

#

anyone?

umbral sequoia
manic ravine
#

this is the first time ive ever seen a rapid fire geology cannon

blazing gale
#

so i can get s CLASS not c if im lucky ?

manic ravine
#

its full auto too

#

i created it myself

#

nobody cares got it

umbral sequoia
manic ravine
#

i understand

blazing gale
#

oh ok

white bluff
#

Wierd -- I was on this world - near this position and took this shot from roof of my corvette.

#

I then went inside and out the side window I saw this:

#

Briefly it was rendering the to-horizon ocean without water - only thru the side corvette window

blazing gale
#

you found shapeshifting planet

white bluff
#

It's like that childhood fable where there were the two chinese kids and one sucked all of the water in the ocean into his mouth for some reason

rapid orbit
#

When is the next expedition? Finished this one yesterday

white bluff
#

I can't remember the rest of the story.

naive mist
#

!exptime

lime havenBOT
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chrome rock
#

Love that new progress bar for that bot command

lime havenBOT
chrome rock
# manic ravine

Okay this is hilarious. Wish I could post a I'm so evil meme gif in response

half cradle
#

Does your inventory ever not have just like random holes in it?

smoky jasper
#

working on a kitchen

desert sun
patent berry
#

I’m just looking fore someone to play with and show me how to get good, I only know the basics

white bluff
narrow vigil
white bluff
#

Damn - OBS vidcap is quite choppy with DLAA on (vs TAA, as I used to use).

desert sun
#

If you don't mind me not using voice chat

short stump
#

I think I just found the planet with the most radiation if the game is right about its records

patent berry
desert sun
#

No PC

#

But it's crossplay so that doesn't matter

patent berry
desert sun
#

👍

#

Mines in my bio

manic ravine
#

how is this NOT fun?

#

please enlighten me

#

because ive never hadthis much fun in any videogame ever

sharp raft
#

Pulled THIS out of my behind. Damn. C-class with bare parts that Mitey has scrounged up so far in Permadeath! Mmm the Starhip Endeavor.. community begins 🙂

sharp raft
manic ravine
#

are you blind

#

nope

queen ridge
#

Is there a specific solar system that you’ll find red and black living ships in?

#

Or is it just random

sharp raft
sharp raft
manic ravine
#

Don't make this about me.

#

good

sharp raft
manic ravine
#

a superweapon

sharp raft
#

and.. again.. my interest has waned. so thanks

umbral sequoia
# manic ravine please enlighten me

Honestly it looks like a complete waste of time...why would I aimlessly shoot the ground and clutter my inventory with random junk? I can mine more of exactly what I want and more efficiently with a properly kitted multitool equipped for maximum resources mined with the nutrient processor having the right food...but far beyond that I don't need to mine much at all because I have bases that automate most essential resources. I can jetpack that much or close enough with the aid of the nutrient processor, without even any cheating.

narrow vigil
#

Hey look....a majestic buttercow

sharp raft
narrow vigil
#

🦋+🐮 =buttercow

sharp raft
manic ravine
#

i can always delete the random junk

#

and i can always delete the mod

#

its too dangerous

umbral sequoia
# manic ravine i was testing a weapon out...

Honestly when I want to test weapons I fight sentinels...mainly walkers and minotaurs really...nothing else matters or poses much of a threat. Not sure how flattening terrain of rocks and trees helps assess a weapon's viability.

manic ravine
#

not viability

#

obviously that is never useable

raw monolith
#

Yo

manic ravine
#

im just trying to see the limits of what the game will do

#

for fire rate

#

but wow its fun to do something the game doesnt let you do

#

*to me

#

not to anyone eelse

#

it is what it is

#

i don't care , you don't care, we all don't care, have a good day

umbral sequoia
# manic ravine it doesn't..... never in any situation would someone want to use that thing

I like to reach the limits of what is legitimately achievable...best modules with the best rolls on equipment with the best bonus rolls and specific use of supercharged slots, how do I want to spread their use or if I want all 4 in one tech, that sort of thing. I have no interest in breaking the game. I've got over 6000 hours in my main save and over 7800 hours in NMS total. I'm not risking losing that by screwing around with mods.

manic ravine
#

you like to obey the rules of a game

#

i like to bend them

narrow vigil
#

As the rule keeper said in Fatal Deviation:

"There are no rules"

manic ravine
#

to each their damn own

narrow vigil
#

Which makes you question why they have a rule keeper 🤔

manic ravine
#

maybe i should gtfo?

#

nah

#

it will be a cold day in hell

narrow vigil
umbral sequoia
narrow vigil
manic ravine
#

I'll be sure to tell my therapist about it

narrow vigil
manic ravine
#

why do i have fun shooting rocks? hmmm.. well... I can't think of anything else to do. ship building is laggy

#

if i had something.. anything to do that was concrete maybe i wouldnt try to get entertainment from nothing

#

in this game i mean

#

im very bored

sharp raft
manic ravine
#

burnt out honestly

#

yeah

sharp raft
keen ginkgo
manic ravine
#

i just dont wanna think that i wasted my life..

cerulean beacon
# manic ravine burnt out honestly

yeah i quit this game for months at a time and come back when a new update comes out that seems interesting. this genre isn't desingned for you to play it nonstop

keen ginkgo
manic ravine
#

i did have fun , but...its wrong?

desert sun
narrow vigil
keen ginkgo
sharp raft
desert sun
sharp raft
#

Mitey now gonna go and eat the foods to gain the energy and get stuff done so can play a wee bit more 🙂

manic ravine
#

cmon don't make me quit

sharp raft
umbral sequoia
# manic ravine why do i have fun shooting rocks? hmmm.. well... I can't think of anything else ...

Did you hunt down all lore? All legitimately obtainable player titles? Are all factions and races medals maxed out? Do you have maxed upgrade modules on all ships, multitools, exocraft, freighter and exosuit? Does all your equipment have max or near max base bonuses? How is your frigate fleet? Have you put thought into the frigate type composition, which are best recruited as S class and which should be recruited as C class and raised to S? Have you learned all alien languages? Have a stasis device farm? Nanite farm? Etc. There is a lot to do in the game when you don't cheat everything.

narrow vigil
cerulean beacon
keen ginkgo
#

For me, I just wish that the kind of games I like weren't all massive time sinks

desert sun
manic ravine
#

i played this to get away from shitty gatcha games, and it worked

manic ravine
#

but at what cost

narrow vigil
#

X class is a gacha game though 🤔

sharp raft
keen ginkgo
manic ravine
#

yes

#

i really really have fun doing this

agile latch
manic ravine
#

im sorry but i do

#

i cant explain it

keen ginkgo
#

I dont see why youd be sorry

manic ravine
#

well some people are annoyed

keen ginkgo
#

Its kinda like lets game it out

narrow vigil
keen ginkgo
#

One of my favorite youtubers

narrow vigil
#

Blobs better be in LNF

cerulean beacon
narrow vigil
#

All new fauna for LNF. But keep the blobs

keen ginkgo
manic ravine
#

and i can see that im annoying

sharp raft
keen ginkgo
#

That will be lnf blob

#

Short worm

cerulean beacon
sharp raft
#

okay look.

#

life choices and determining your place in the universe is not discussion fit for this channel.

narrow vigil
#

A lot of those style of games have blobs/flan types

manic ravine
#

umm

sharp raft
narrow vigil
keen ginkgo
#

Its... kinda the core theme of the game, lol

manic ravine
#

i wasnt refering to my life

sharp raft
#

talkin about this game that we all love and come together to play.. thats what this channel is for 🙂

#

so lets get back to that shall we? 😉

narrow vigil
#

On to proto Gek

keen ginkgo
#

I mean... this game is about that kind of existential crisis, isnt it?

narrow vigil
#

It's a freaking teddy bear

sharp raft
keen ginkgo
#

Or is that kinda more spoilers?

narrow vigil
sharp raft
tulip oar
forest hollow
#

i wonder if living freighter's will ever be added
-# i know about living frigates btw

narrow vigil
cerulean beacon
cerulean beacon
tulip oar
#

do what

narrow vigil
#

The cat is lore

manic ravine
#

well, there goes my mood.

sharp raft
# tulip oar

holy mother of overgrowth. well now THAT is hydroponics

manic ravine
#

im going back to the game..

cerulean beacon
manic ravine
#

discord waste of time right now

tulip oar
#

the hanging vines and stuff

narrow vigil
cerulean beacon
tulip oar
#

they're really nice for the freighter farming rooms

blazing wraith
sharp raft
#

I mean good heavens.. how he swallow the foods?

forest hollow
cerulean beacon
narrow vigil
manic ravine
#

have you seen those flying geometric shape things?

tulip oar
#

there's a lot of good stuff there

tulip oar
#

i would recommend looking into it

manic ravine
#

theres animals that look like polygons

#

or something

forest hollow
#

until then, imma stick with my pirate frieghter that looks really cool

sharp raft
manic ravine
#

also have you been to one of those planets that have those weird tower things with the pod on top of them? and the metal cables

desert sun
#

Oh... Those are interesting

manic ravine
#

like everywhere

desert sun
#

Don't look too closely

manic ravine
#

you can destroy those with your ship

desert sun
#

Yup

manic ravine
#

crash into them

#

they cannot be taken down any other way

tulip oar
steady mango
#

okay

manic ravine
#

trust me i shot at them for a few mins

steady mango
manic ravine
#

no matter what i did they just didnt go rdown

steady mango
#

they should add some sort of boss to that area

narrow vigil
desert sun
manic ravine
#

so i basically used my ship like a lawnmower

next nimbus
#

collecting these stabilized glitches is driving me batty

manic ravine
#

and mowed them down

desert sun
steady mango
#

those types of biomes should have more on them

#

they are very cool

#

but there really isn't anything there

next nimbus
#

how many years before I get them all

steady mango
sharp raft
manic ravine
#

im not the only one that crashes into those to destroy them?

sharp raft
#

what. He asked!

narrow vigil
#

16

manic ravine
#

the tower pod thingd

next nimbus
#

I may not have that many 🙁

sharp raft
steady mango
manic ravine
#

well i do it on purpose

next nimbus
#

any hints to finding them?

sharp raft
#

Sorry Mitey is gonna have to call PETA now..

manic ravine
#

those are not alive...

sharp raft
#

::dials up holographic transmitter::

manic ravine
#

they cannot even be scanned

steady mango
#

I feel like they should be some kind of boss

#

where if you do something specific

next nimbus
#

like find "p" systems with lots. of moons or something

manic ravine
#

like a tripod robot thing?

steady mango
#

they all wake up

#

and you have to fight them off

sharp raft
steady mango
manic ravine
#

did you know you can stand on top of them

steady mango
manic ravine
#

unlike the rocks that float around on gas giants

#

those are not even solid

next nimbus
#

oh shoot, didn't realize it went past midnight UTC. Time to send my frigates out.

steady mango
manic ravine
#

i tried to get on one and fell thru it

#

also there is sometimes lakes on gas giants

steady mango
#

ik i have seen them

#

they really need to add proper black holes

manic ravine
#

oh no

#

too sccarry

steady mango
#

im going through one rn and they are so underwhelming

#

they should be called wormholes

steady mango
manic ravine
#

no no

#

what about if we could visit the stars themselves

steady mango
#

and if you went in them they could do some weird interstellar shi

steady mango
timber haven
steady mango
manic ravine
#

i meant the weird ones that look like you could stand on them and ride them

steady mango
#

or break your windows

manic ravine
#

i wanted to make a house on one

timber haven
steady mango
#

yeahhh it would be sick if corvettes when they get damaged too often you have to walk around and repair them

#

like a broken window

#

or

#

a fuel leak

manic ravine
#

it would be sick, but it would get old fast

steady mango
manic ravine
#

and then become a choire

steady mango
#

if it were a thing

noble merlin
#

This already happens with ship damage and tech modules

manic ravine
#

and i hate when things become a chore

steady mango
#

sentinel corvettes would be cool

steady mango
#

like

#

erm

#

idk among us

noble merlin
steady mango
#

but back to the topic of black holes

#

what if

manic ravine
#

sure, building is work, but it is your work, not work you are required to do to get things you need,

steady mango
#

when you went in them they take you to a new type of star system

opal glade
#

hey so what do i do, it says use passport at space station core to disrupt records

steady mango
#

and these black holes could be ultra rare

manic ravine
#

work is different when you chose to do it

manic ravine
#

vs having to

steady mango
little halo
steady mango
#

270*

manic ravine
#

grinding is different when you do it voluntarily

little halo
#

The big GLADOS thing

steady mango
#

cargo runs or smth would be cool

#

where you cant take that much damage or smth

narrow vigil
#

Me....in a Corvette with phase beams

"What's damage?" 🧐

manic ravine
#

playing hardest difficulty ... it makes for a good time as much as being allowed to only use 1 arm

steady mango
#

maybe not have it be based on damage

#

but based on how many times you have been damaged

manic ravine
#

i dont know how to use phase beam. if i remember correctly they werent always good

steady mango
#

more satisfying

keen ginkgo
manic ravine
#

i use a fully powerd up photon cannon

#

inmy legit play i mean

keen ginkgo
#

Any laser weapon is gonna be good

#

Sustained laser, at least

manic ravine
#

right but.. idk it just, you can't exactly auto-aim with it

steady mango
#

thats the point

manic ravine
#

what?

steady mango
#

makes space fights less easy

keen ginkgo
#

True, but once the auto aim points you in the right direction you dont need it anymore

steady mango
#

cause rn even with a bad ship space fights are usually easy

manic ravine
#

i like that

keen ginkgo
manic ravine
#

id like it to stay like that

#

fights are annoying when they are all the time

keen ginkgo
#

I tend to use auto target for turning quickly to face the enemy

steady mango
#

or hg should just make space fights more interesting

manic ravine
#

a boss ship?

steady mango
manic ravine
#

one with all the same weapons you have?

steady mango
#

that would be sick

manic ravine
#

same stats as your ship too

#

same upgrades

keen ginkgo
#

Sentinel dreadnaught warps in, now featuring phase beams

steady mango
#

and have them use corvettes

manic ravine
#

so if you are all powerd up , so it would be

#

a sort of rival enemy

steady mango
#

and if you sre using a corvette you can space walk over to their ship and salvage parts

#

like in the breach expedition

manic ravine
#

what harder of a dogfight would it be to go against... yourself

keen ginkgo
#

Well I cant hit myself

manic ravine
#

or rather , a ship with all the same stuff you have on your ship

keen ginkgo
#

In my ship, at least

narrow vigil
#

Not with that attitude you can't

manic ravine
#

and it actually use them

#

instead of only 1 weapon

steady mango
manic ravine
#

you dont know what im saying do you

keen ginkgo
steady mango
keen ginkgo
narrow vigil
keen ginkgo
#

Your idea made me think of terratech

manic ravine
#

i meant an enemy that is a copy of the ship ur using

steady mango
#

yes

manic ravine
#

with all those x class upgrades

keen ginkgo
#

Well, your idea combined with swoomish's idea

manic ravine
#

so if i fly my modded ship im screwed

#

if i go against it

#

haha

steady mango
#

cause having the salvage feature from breach actually be used would be cool

steady mango
keen ginkgo
#

Trying to think back to another space game with custom ships and AI combat

#

Because those guys had problems too

manic ravine
#

but false to some extent

steady mango
manic ravine
#

unless you are some kinda ace

opal glade
#

Are black market space ship upgrades considered illegal too?

narrow vigil
#

Elite dangerous didn't do ship customization for a reason

steady mango
keen ginkgo
#

I remember the AI having trouble using the range of its weapons, but that would be fine in nms because most players dont do that

steady mango
narrow vigil
#

And it was more of a flight Sim than NMS

manic ravine
#

I don't think you are

#

because i don't know

quartz trellis
#

The only other games I can think of with customizable space ships are the gummi ships from kingdom hearts lmao.

steady mango
#

exactly GekSus

opal glade
keen ginkgo
manic ravine
#

i don't know *how * well you fly

narrow vigil
manic ravine
#

so i can't just go off of discussion

keen ginkgo
#

I made a category in my steam library specifically for spaceship building games

narrow vigil
#

Like there was nothing wrong with Kingdom hearts shipbuilding. It was perfect as it was

keen ginkgo
#

I was so happy to add nms to that category

narrow vigil
#

No man's Kerbal 3

manic ravine
#

ever heard "you gotta see it to believe it"

quartz trellis
manic ravine
#

starfield is dissapointing

#

i tried right before coming here

#

i was not impressed

keen ginkgo
#

A lot of those games have more physics to them though

manic ravine
#

bethesda physics be like brrrrr

narrow vigil
#

Starfield proved that if you're going to make a space game at this point in time you're going to have to lure no man's Sky players in the process.

serene iron
#

like space engineers

quartz trellis
narrow vigil
#

In other words you have to catch up to hello games and no man's sky. On release

manic ravine
#

ragdoll mania

steady mango
#

nms should have more flight stuff

#

rn it feels too

#

how do I put this

#

simple maybe

#

cause like

keen ginkgo
manic ravine
#

if we can have such powerful weapons, what is there to use them on?

steady mango
#

lol

narrow vigil
#

No man's sky is not about the flight. It's exploration. What you do at point a and point b. Not the in between

manic ravine
#

what is there in the game to actually need to use them on

manic ravine
#

if there was bosses

steady mango
#

we need more combat encounters

manic ravine
#

then that would make sense

steady mango
#

hard ones

serene iron
#

Space Engineers is great fun with people... though mods can so seriously cause problems with servers getting bad memory leaks when you do things like build a ship with the laser drill mod (which offsets the spherical cut of a drill by a little distance) and bore a hole STRAIGHT THROUGH an asteroid.

narrow vigil
#

Derelict freighters, space anomalies, things to do in space all came later. After the exploration and everything else

keen ginkgo
manic ravine
#

like if ur task is to destroy a whole fleet within a time limit

steady mango
manic ravine
#

like multiple pirate vessels

#

can you imagine if you had to go against like 3 or 4 of the pirate ships

quartz trellis
#

Just imagine giant bosses where you can go inside and take down a core and have to escape.

narrow vigil
keen ginkgo
manic ravine
#

4 pirate dreadnaughts

#

cant claim them you have to destroy them

keen ginkgo
#

Ooh! Maybe something like the exocraft specialist quests

narrow vigil
#

I'm not spending 2 hours in pulse flight for a damn Gek coffee mug 😂

keen ginkgo
#

But for other stuff

steady mango
#

imagine having a sentinel swarm as a combat encounter

keen ginkgo
steady mango
#

like

#

a sentinel dreadnought appearing over your planet

#

and swarms of them flying down

#

it would obviously be very rare

stark tendon
#

anyone know like a good way to get money to buy a freighter

keen ginkgo
#

How do I put this...

#

Thats not a winnable scenario

steady mango
#

but the

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neutron

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cannon

keen ginkgo
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If anything like that happens, im running

steady mango
naive mist
steady mango
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wait i have a sick idea

quartz trellis
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The larvae thing that can be encountered I really want to see what it would look like. Make it a fight too.

steady mango
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sentinel roamers or pilgrims

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dropping down front the dreadnought

keen ginkgo
serene iron
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I mean... if the Sentinel Interceptors were a limited number, like when you fight the capitals, I'd be down for tearing apart a Sentinel equivalent of a Roberts.

quartz trellis
keen ginkgo
serene iron
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which, the whispering eggs?

keen ginkgo
quartz trellis
keen ginkgo
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Yup

serene iron
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oh, that encounter

keen ginkgo
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It cant be hurt

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And it can hurt you, easily

balmy quail
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meh. the salvage material is inside some giant plant that isn't destroyable 🙁

keen ginkgo
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Might work

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Might not, idk

balmy quail
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it's those gigantic plant thingies 😐

steady mango
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what

keen ginkgo
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Worth a shot

steady mango
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the cable ones

balmy quail
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well, mushroom.

steady mango
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the rocket league looking ones

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oh nvm

keen ginkgo
balmy quail
keen ginkgo
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I think

keen ginkgo
balmy quail
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found a bunch of sodium rich plants beside it. how does the game know i'm salty? 😄

steady mango
keen ginkgo
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Also the sentinels go easy on us

balmy quail
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are we able to recolour our starships yet?

keen ginkgo
nocturne sonnet
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idk after

steady mango
signal violet
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Is there an easy way to get the "to live forever" achievement?

stark heath
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So like... What glyphs do i use

nocturne sonnet
nocturne sonnet
signal violet
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Ah, thanks

stark heath
little halo
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You need to look at the preceding screen, I believe

nocturne sonnet
little halo
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Gives you clues to which ones to use

stark heath
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Unless its supposed to be at the panel

little halo
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Just back out

nocturne sonnet
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exit and read what the guy says

narrow vigil
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Wtf

nocturne sonnet
stark heath
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Oh yeah thanks

nocturne sonnet
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😳

narrow vigil
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No man's Christmas story

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All I want for Christmas is a Red Rider multi-tool

nocturne sonnet
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all i want for christmas

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is to be happy 😄

signal violet
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I will attempt it legit, and then if that doesn't work, speedrun then..

peak garden
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Baby sentinel HeartRed

keen ginkgo
steady mango
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yes

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as like

keen ginkgo
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It might be cool for the first 10 or 20 minutes

steady mango
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a bossfight

little halo
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We have boss fights at home

keen ginkgo
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Thats them going easy on us

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The fact that they stop attacking

little halo
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I think HG's opinion of 'difficult' is very casual

keen ginkgo
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I can agree with that

steady mango
little halo
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Sentinel doggo is the most deadly in the game probably

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Maybe biological horror the first time you encounter them

keen ginkgo
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My point is more that the sentinels attacking in more... intense ways would mean something really really bad

steady mango
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not so intense that they destroy systems but like

narrow vigil
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I don't play with the sentinel quad dog on PD. Not without the Minotaur

steady mango
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harder bossfights

nocturne sonnet
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sentinel easy

nocturne sonnet
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u just go in a building

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they give up

steady mango
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that laser decimates you

dreamy kayak
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if I have paralysis mortar, it doesns't matter who I fight

little halo
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Mainly because the hitbox is just so damned weird on the quad

keen ginkgo
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The quad charges, too

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Freaking superspeed

steady mango
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that too

narrow vigil
keen ginkgo
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Meanwhile the quad as companion moves at a brisk jog when it sprints

quartz trellis
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I mean I know this game was made for exploration and such but yeah I would love to have tougher fights even if they are boss fights.

dreamy kayak
little halo
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One of the original "pillars" was combat

nocturne sonnet
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sentinel everywhere

keen ginkgo
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Tbh a "lore accurate" difficulty mode would be kinda funny

pliant plinth
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Hello

little halo
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If your base exceed 100 pieces, instant swarm death

quartz trellis
keen ginkgo
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Slow build

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Like always

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But the difference is that they dont stop

nocturne sonnet
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i want a difficulty called "very hard math" and they make u solve calculus for the sentinel terminal

balmy quail
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is there a way to see my list of starships and their stats?

keen ginkgo
little halo
steep aurora
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hello nms gen, popped in here bc im bored

balmy quail
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:\

pliant plinth
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Im thinking about getting no mans sky would you guys say its worth it for a casual player to just chill after work and stuff?

nocturne sonnet
steady mango
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just have sentinels be unkillable

keen ginkgo
keen ginkgo
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Its just that at some point they decided to stop escalating in their retaliations

nocturne sonnet
steady mango
little halo
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The Vy'keen were actually winning against the Sentinels, until a certain group...