light-no-fire

[tepid bane]

That way they can get the quality up. Rather then full scale proc gen like nms

[fierce kayak]

yep

[upbeat coyote]

this game looks so much fun...we know nothing about a release date besides 2024 right?

[opaque citrus]

There is no official release date either

We only know that HG is working on it

[fierce kayak]

the team is smaller than I thought as well. Wonder if they’re going to bring more people on

[cinder notch]

Don’t hate on the shorties Zach

[errant harness]

Its a scientific fact that tall coders are better at their job

[fierce kayak]

yeah

[upbeat coyote]

It seems soon considering the heavy advertising though..

[cinder notch]

You would think that

But then there’s Sean Murray

[midnight stream]

Murrayyyy

[short beacon]

No Man's sky was only like 15 people iirc

[fierce kayak]

yep and it grew to 30 ish, so hopefully they bring more people on to make this planet more diverse and with more depth in all areas

[fierce kayak]

I would dare say (to the anger of many nms fans) to divert all attention away from NMS onto this game

[foggy geyser]

But diverting attention wont make it for faster or would it? They know Sean is cookin up LNF they just patiently waiting, appetizing of NMS

[cinder notch]

i'm okay with this, i haven't seriously played nms in about 2 years

[fierce kayak]

it just depends on scope and timeline, and I'm hoping for a fuller, richer experience right at launch (whenever that may be).

[foggy geyser]

True

[cinder notch]

next tuesday

choozdyinnit

[fierce kayak]

no U's day

[cinder notch]

ebby day me'sday

[short beacon]

I just started playing nms, this would be devastating for me lmao.

But I would completely understand if that’s what they do.

[foggy geyser]

Mb nx tudeyyy

[hardy fulcrum]

im gonna light a fire

say i wont

[kind hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/bust-kurtangle-gif-20596458

[fierce kayak]

replace that water with fire and then we’ll be 👌👌

[hardy fulcrum]

my fire is ignited solid rocket fuel, cannot be extinguished 🙂

[unique ruin]

I will CO2 suppress it

[hardy fulcrum]

bro, once ignited, it cannot be extinguished, no matter the retardant.

Even the vacuum of space has no effect 🙂

Maybe if u tossed a black hole at it but thats just speculation at this point.

[unique ruin]

Sounds like you didn't use enough

[hardy fulcrum]

no, U didnt use enough.

shits still burnin

still

even now to this day

[uneven shuttle]

There is an ointment for that

[brazen arrow]

[pallid grove]

well it's solid and burning, maybe drink some water?

[hardy fulcrum]

that got me good

[foggy geyser]

Imma start the fire!

[little finch]

hey everyone

[little finch]

Who is gonna play LNF

I def am as soon as any news Sean

[fierce kayak]

yes, i will be climbing mountains and also going into deep caves

[uneven shuttle]

Hmm I might play it

@little finch maybe I dunno

[sand wasp]

You will

[cinder notch]

i refuse to play this game ||until it is released||

[uneven shuttle]

Just because I’m on the LNF discord, doesn’t mean I’ll play it! Until it’s released. Then will. I suppose

[cinder notch]

i'll be honest, i don't go in for a lot of medeival content these days after getting burnt out on LOTR movies 20 years ago, but i will still play this game because of the studio

i've gotten about $400 value out of playing NMS with all the free updates they have put out over SEVEN years (unheard of for 99% of games), so i'm happy to pay just on that front

oh also i paid less than $18USD for the game:

[uneven shuttle]

I paid more than that, but still 900 hours was worth every penny

[foggy geyser]

Well over a thousand hours on both pc and ps4, worth every penny (of buying it twice), this is the only game I know to have repetitively upgraded a noticeable graphics for every graphics update (over the many times theyve done so since 2016

Like the difference between playing NMS ps3, vs ps5 (in vr) id say

[uneven shuttle]

Yeah, which is why I will buy LNF. Even if it’s a mid game, HG earned my money and I would trust them to make it great

[alpine trail]

I want to stay in a sci-fi mood because I make 3D art and play sci Fi games for inspiration..but man.... I'm hyped for LNF.

[exotic talon]

I wonder when LNF releases, HG will do a software update of @cyan orbit to update em with all info of LNF 🤔

[tidal dagger]

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[cyan orbit]

haha

possibly

i'll for sure get the game

[short beacon]

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[lilac tartan]

Any more news of the game apart of its trailer and ambitious promises?

[sand wasp]

No promises have been made

[lilac tartan]

Well, not exactly promises, hopes.

But yeah, i hope it wont be nms launch all over again.

[cinder notch]

who wouldn't

[fierce kayak]

Sean didn’t make any promises for NMS either

[tawny junco]

just holding onto something that's been fixed for years now

[void palm]

Ehhh, yeah he did

[fierce kayak]

he’s a person, he was excited about his game, and he was speaking of things that may have been in the shipped game, but no promises at all. If we put our hope and trust in a person to the point where we believe in their promises, we need a reality check.

so no, he didn't promise anything, and he didn't promise anything for LNF. If we consider what he said as a promise and then are let down when the game ships, that's on us and our unreasonable expections, not on them.

[lilac tartan]

And yet, they are still trying to stir up the hype for it... to me, it might not be a literal promise, but they sure are trying to set some expectations from us, and the ,,description" of the game and the trailer was pretty grand, so in the end, they might not promise anything, but if they mess up, I know I will be disappointed for a game they said they said we could get. Even though I like hello games too, i am not just entirely convinced that the hype-train tracks up ahead arent leading to a bottomless pit. Do not take any offence, this is not an attack on the studio that I feel very fond of and support, im just concerned.

[fierce kayak]

They're game devs with an ambitious idea, and they happen to be excited about it. They're allowed to be excited and to share their excitement with others. I know what you mean, it's easy to be disappointed when a product doesn't meet our expectations, but also, we're human, and even through our hard work, things don't always turn out the way we envision it. Thankfully, we've seen HG improve NMS to a place with high polish (even though it has its issues), so I don't see what he said about LNF being that big of a deal and well within their ability to accomplish.

[kind gust]

You can call it whatever you want and I agree the devs have the right to be excited, but to get up on stage and say "our game has xyz features in it", and then release the game without those features, is irresponsible. Which is why this time around it seems clear that they are trying to avoid the same mistakes, at least so far.

[fierce kayak]

though there's a difference between a person making a promise and being irresponsible

[fervent rampart]

It looks like a fun game

But I hope nms doesn't get sidelined

[fervent rampart]

I heard people calling nms Dev's liar

I played like this year

So idk why

But it's kinda sad if the game is so cool

Unless something had happened at begining

[fierce kayak]

who knows, but the reality is that everyone lies or has lied

[fervent rampart]

That the human nature

[fierce kayak]

tbh

[fervent rampart]

So far the only person who lied once

In his life

Was Gandhi ji

A freedom fighter of India

When he was 5

[fierce kayak]

theres one who lied one less than Gandhi

but i won't get into that here... 🙂

[fervent rampart]

So someone never lied interesting

I'm only speaking here what we were taught at school

But I would love to know

[fierce kayak]

you can click on my name to learn more

[fervent rampart]

Maybe off topic

[fierce kayak]

can't in off-topic either

[cinder notch]

oot

[fervent rampart]

Ooh

Ok then

Goodnight

[fierce kayak]

gmorning

don't light a fire

||it's Jesus||

[fervent rampart]

Ok

Idk much outside of Indian history

And it's respectable

[fierce kayak]

if you wanna learn more about Him feel free to DM

[fervent rampart]

Ok

[short beacon]

Who are we learning about?

[cloud sinew]

hey guys

[void palm]

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[cloud sinew]

risky text

[cinder notch]

who wants to go light some fires 🔥 🔥 🔥

[sand wasp]

[foggy geyser]

Imma light some fires!

https://tenor.com/view/match-stick-flame-cool-magic-awesome-gif-14224963

[hardy fulcrum]

@foggy geyser do u even play game?!

also i cant post gif wth

preferential treatment up in here

Actually i take that back. Im on mobile and sometimes it goes into this weird aspect ratio where it doesnt show gif tab

My mistake, carry on chat 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/konata-izumi-anime-dance-lucky-star-gif-11949661

[foggy geyser]

depends on game..

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-clem-yellow-eyes-gif-14862662

[hardy fulcrum]

idk what dis means but i surrender

[foggy geyser]

ah i see you dont get the reference ok

[hardy fulcrum]

well, im dumb 🙂 my brain is telling me that its a star wars reference but the other half is saying its not

in essence, im even dumber than u anticipated 🙂

[foggy geyser]

its a warframe reference

[hardy fulcrum]

i never would have known 🙂 i dont play destiny knockoffs

[sand wasp]

LOL

I don't know why you crack me up, but you do Lemon

[foggy geyser]

You mean you do warframe knockoffs

Considering both destiny games are the knockoffs here

[hardy fulcrum]

😊

[hardy fulcrum]

i know 🙂 just messin around bro

[fierce kayak]

all video games are knock offs of pong

[foggy geyser]

Pong is a knock off of pc testing

[cinder notch]

🔥

[dim anvil]

🧯

[cinder notch]

("| ( > __ < ) |")

[dim anvil]

😄

[foggy geyser]

Fellow (in game) arsonist?

[fierce kayak]

so

i wonder if LNF will have chairs

[sand wasp]

Legs Not Found

No chairs

[fierce kayak]

dadgommit

[cinder notch]

Plant No Butts

[oblique crow]

wat?'

[void palm]

Wat no wats

[foggy geyser]

Plant no Bots

[cinder notch]

Fire No Devs 😮

[oblique crow]

who wan farm planets wit me

dm me

[foggy geyser]

Fire Now Devastation!

[void palm]

This is LNF chat

[void palm]

!lnflink @twilit grail

[split meteor]

@twilit grail https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[twilit grail]

Thanks 😁

[cinder notch]

Anybody know where I can find some fires

[errant harness]

California

[void palm]

Tried Australia?

[foggy geyser]

The ☀️

[cinder notch]

Brb

[tight bluff]

looks like they reusing stuff from nms ?

[void palm]

Well yeah

It’s the same studio

There’s also the knowledge bro korvax guy from the trailer that has lights that look very similar to the symbol on knowledge stones

[tight bluff]

it appares so

[sand wasp]

[modest patrol]

He must know alot of things

[glass tide]

CLEM

[foggy geyser]

Tennoo?

[glass tide]

actually boutta log on warframe

[frail jetty]

in order to play Light no Fire the planet has to be discovered in NMS first 👀

Good luck

[brittle brook]

lol the release date is just hidden in some random comm ball on some random planet

[foggy geyser]

yea comm ball was placed close to launch before all the geology changes so may be underground glitched

[brittle brook]

Time to get digging lol

[foggy geyser]

time to diggy, diggy hole

[storm gate]

Honestly it shocks me how damn close it is in art design. Not only is the in-game engine direclty looking to be an update/port of the NMS engine, but everything else - from the knowledge Stonebro, to even the logo design being WAAY to similar to the Atlas symbol. It's almost like they said "We want a torch, but how do we make it look as close to the atlas symbol as possible?"

I'm kinda wondering if it's going to have some kind of secondary NMS background storyline behind the main storyline... like by finding some hints/clues/suggestions, we can piece out that this world was a beta-test for the Atlas universe or something.

[cinder notch]

kzzt

[versed olive]

it would be cool af if they connected light no fire with nms, like the atlas gave up on its universe and decided to focus on one single planet or smth

[quartz torrent]

so i guess NMS doesnt get any seasonal big content updates anymore because LNF is priority?

[uneven shuttle]

When did NMS have seasonal updates?

[void palm]

1. NMS never had that
2. They have different teams working on the games

[tropic crow]

Is there an official server

[hasty kiln]

for LNF?

[tropic crow]

Yes

[hasty kiln]

#light-no-fire message

here ^

[uneven shuttle]

Not official, but as close to official as this one is for NMS

[exotic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183502145941676064/1197282474355609620/Light_No_Gunter.jpg?ex=65bab332&is=65a83e32&hm=23e0f83ce467a2ddcd38eedf149f8789fad962f4b9cd812bfac12e6245439831&

[cinder notch]

Molto bene

[void palm]

Why would you ever get the idea to light Gunter on fire?

[quartz torrent]

gotcha
felt like it had content updates every 3 months

[short beacon]

So Any news on light no Fire, I wonder how big our Dragons can Get, I hope we can fly them very high I want to swoop through the clouds with it

I hope we get some actually aggressive almost intimidating looking ones too.

I want something like this

[void palm]

All we have is the TGA trailer

[short beacon]

This dragon has me interested looks pretty big, and different

[cinder notch]

C class dragon would just be a gecko that you carry around your pocket to keep him warm

[short beacon]

I hope they breath fire, hopefully we can change the color of their flames.

I'm definitely going to try and make my character look like a Targaryean, and I want to. Burst through the clouds riding my dragon.

I wonder what the name will be

[hazy hornet]

Nice!!

[short beacon]

I hope they make a concept art book like ghost of Tsushima.

It would slap

[exotic talon]

Gunter is evil

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183502145941676064/1197282474355609620/Light_No_Gunter.jpg?ex=65df9d32&is=65cd2832&hm=c90164a5104278639802d9be81d094f2371ff71666abbb06fa209f3839071065&

[void palm]

You are the evil

[sand wasp]

[opaque citrus]

Always was.

[crisp vault]

This looks like a more realistic Monsterous Nightmare lol
But yes I agree, I want a big best friend to fly through clouds with

[uneven shuttle]

I want a kingfisher.

[rain cairn]

I want a brick

[cinder notch]

will the dragons be customizable

[sand wasp]

Hope so

[cinder notch]

i'd love to be able to swap out dragon parts and paint color my dragon in any color i want

[sand wasp]

Lol

Dragon building

Maybe there is something comparable to the egg synthesizer in NMS and we can tweak em

A spell, or breeding or something more rpg

[cinder notch]

nice

+1

[short beacon]

I'm so ready for this game, anyone have any speculation on when we may get a release window

[short beacon]

That would be nice, I want to make.mine look aggressive and Red. I wonder if they will have roars that can be customized

[cinder notch]

Or different color flames

[short beacon]

I actually mentioned that earlier, I think that would be epic I'd go with like a blue flame. Maybe make my dragon bronze and Call it Vermathor

[short beacon]

I will definitely be looking at any way to make it the largest it can get

[sand wasp]

I'm trying not to get too hyped and make crazy expectations, but it's hard

[cinder notch]

Call me old fashioned but I wouldn’t be mad at gear levels

[sand wasp]

So many questions

Skill trees?

Who knows?!

[short beacon]

I kinda hope we can change the voice of our dragons roar, it's not loud but it's trippy, I want the roar from Caraxes but n House of the Dragon

[short beacon]

I'm definitely aiming for the biggest dragon

[tawny junco]

I hope there's some cool looking dragons

or maybe they'll release more dragons over time? idk

kinda like nms' ships

[hardy fulcrum]

dis game ready yet

ive waited yrs

[patent furnace]

[hardy fulcrum]

images u can hear

[versed olive]

I hope they add like actually HUGE lifeforms

that's something I've missed with NMS

like we have no planet eating cosmic gods

the only thing that comes close is leviathan and other space whales

I hope they add like mountain giants or something to Light no Fire

[sand wasp]

That knowledge bro was pretty big, but yeah that would be neat

[modern rover]

giant worms

[foggy geyser]

Wyrms, in the sands…

[cinder notch]

light no worms

[void palm]

Light no dune

[cinder notch]

set fire to no muad'dib

[foggy geyser]

Light every dune

[crisp vault]

Imagine all the “it’s been 40 years” memes when the game drops 🤣

[uneven shuttle]

When I was young we dreamed of lighting no fires. Now, I leave that to you. Go. Light no fires lights pipe

[tame maple]

How do we all feel about a Physical Release for LNF? Must admit I hope they do so for all platforms they release LNF on. Wish I could get a physical release of NMS on PC also.

[foggy geyser]

Imagine its been like Fry being frozen in time for a millenia 10 generations later "Continue lighting no fire kiddos" lights and smokes pipe

[odd prawn]

Instructions unclear
Lit an orphanage on fire

[crude agate]

i do hope we really get the life sized features, like mountains caves oceans etc. - the ones in nms have always felt underwhelming

i wonder if some of the races will predominantly live in, say, the mountains, or deep in caves for example

[crude agate]

I think the big deciding factor for me is if the game meets the expectations it's setting in terms of world generation and multiplayer interaction (hopefully we don't get the jank NMS multiplayer)

the trailer said the footage is all in game multiplayer so it's promising

[peak jolt]

Any news on a release date?

[odd prawn]

I can’t wait to do my Light no Fire Arson Speedrun

This has to be fake.

No way a game launching in 2024/25 is going to run on a GeForce 510 and a Core 2 Duo.

NMS won’t even run on that low of a level of hardware.

[dense lagoon]

You think a site that is 1/4 covered in adverts and trying to make a commission on selling PC parts would do that?

Just go on the internet and make up content for clicks?

[cinder notch]

nahhhhhh

[sand wasp]

No one (besides HG maybe) knows what the requirements are yet

[cinder notch]

nothing is set until they publish the files tbh

[hasty kiln]

These AI generated articles are starting to get on my nerves

[hasty kiln]

Game's still in development so I doubt they know it yet

[crude agate]

calling it "intelligence" is generous

[foggy geyser]

AI atm rn for articles atm seems like the infinite monkey theorm

[split meteor]

https://x.com/nomanssky/status/1762503381694796217
https://hellogames.org/join-us/

Sean Murray (@NoMansSky) on X

Hello Games is hiring for all roles 🙏

✅Independent Studio
✅Small Team
✅Fantasy Dragons
✅Science Fiction Spaceships
✅Making innovative things

https://t.co/IqsqweggyS

Twitter · Feb 27, 2024, 3:42 PM

[cinder notch]

i will apply for CEO

[sand wasp]

Smoosh Murray

[cinder notch]

a new era

[dense lagoon]

They did say all roles, basically legally binding

[foggy geyser]

Yep, time to apply all

[cinder notch]

Goodbye Games

[sand wasp]

Light No Fire isn't out yet, so you can't be playing an expedition

[spring stone]

? I'm playing it rn

[cinder notch]

🌳 ➡️ 👦🏼

you're out of your tree son

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[lilac tartan]

No man's fantasy world

[shut sorrel]

Much as I'd love to work on Light No Fire, I dont live near Hello Games

Very much on the other side of the Atlantic

[foggy geyser]

I think i live near the direct opposite side of the world

[vapid carbon]

whats it supposed to be like medieval spaceships?

[opaque citrus]

Dragons

[vapid carbon]

thats a jump in another direction aint it

i hooe its good i just looked it up and it says its supposed to take place on an earth sized planet

[opaque citrus]

Expect at least nms in diffrent skin plus some new features.

[vapid carbon]

nms is good so...

[cinder notch]

Dragons ARE medieval spaceships

[tawny junco]

real

[lost horizon]

Whoa...never knew or came here before.

What the heck is this game so cool looking

[fierce kayak]

it's a game about lighting every fire didn't u know?

[lost horizon]

Nope lol

[cinder notch]

All The Fires ™️

[foggy geyser]

Legit thought i clicked on #1145350915172356166 not here LOL

[tardy marsh]

Playing Smalland: Survive the Wild to compensate the wait for LnF. Kinda fun and pretty well done. I do hope LnF does it bigger and better, though.

[uneven shuttle]

Does it have building? If so is it good?

[tardy marsh]

It does have building and quite good too. Might be very close or even a tat better than NMS, imo.
Round shape walls and banisters for stairs for example. Placing items is more precise, but I do miss a building cam, though.

You can even move your complete base, when you move up to another location.

I do hope LNF goes this way, sorta.

[uneven shuttle]

Hmm. I might have to try it. It’s on my wishlist after all

[tardy marsh]

It’s still a 1.0 release and doesn’t have tons of content yet, but it entertains me for days already.
I’m treating Smalland as a preview for LNF 😄

[lunar bear]

Is lnf out yet

Can you play it yet

[pallid grove]

no

[supple folio]

Anyone wanna start fresh with me lowkey looking for a gaming buddy

[patent furnace]

Do you mean, when Light No Fire comes out? I ask since we've no clue when the game will come out.

If you're LFG'ing for NMS, you can try #nms-lfg-or-trades

Edited:
You can also try our Game Night channel for finding players for non NMS games ( 🔓 the channel unlocks with the respective self-assignable role here: #roles message ).

[fierce kayak]

probably tomorrow

[cinder notch]

You mean Tuesday

Games always release on Tuesday

[fierce kayak]

Yes my bad

[void palm]

No Access (second link)

[patent furnace]

Oh right. The Game Night role -- self-assignable here: #roles message -- unlocks that.

[void palm]

Oooohhh

Thank

[lavish moth]

So where there be light in this game just no fire

[cinder notch]

Sunlight

Moonlight

Bioluminescent light

Starlight

From that other game

Where there be no skies

[fierce kayak]

lamp

[cinder notch]

• lamp

[patent furnace]

[patent furnace]

I liked where this list was going

[cinder notch]

Flip No Switches

[foggy geyser]

Flipped No Zubats heh

[lilac tartan]

Don't Commit Arson

[cinder notch]

Eschew Crime Brûlée

[crisp vault]

“Crime brûlée” 🤣
That’s freaking awesome lol

[cinder notch]

#memes🤡 message

the only credit i take is being smart enough to steal it 😐

@dense lagoon

[dense lagoon]

ohhhh thats gonna annoy me cause it'll be here for weeks

search for hat tip in gifs

imagine I posted that

[cinder notch]

tsk upload fail

[dense lagoon]

It uploaded fine I just didn't want dumb gif here for weeks

but now there's a dumb not-gif

[cinder notch]

yw

[foggy geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/pato-have-you-seen-my-hat-gif-26509604

[peak jolt]

Any updates on this game?

[solid sluice]

HG just showed LNF off and then poof, not a word again

the entire LNF server is pretty much just hype

[pallid grove]

hype hope and insanity

[dense lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[solid sluice]

yeah I feel like they forgot to tell us stuff lol

[dense lagoon]

https://www.nomanssky.com/2013/12/introducing-no-mans-sky/

NMS released nearly 3 years after that blog post

get comfy lol

[cinder notch]

Lighting Fires For The Next Three Years

[fierce kayak]

I doubt they’ll take as long for this one, at least going by what Sean said about not wanting to announce anything too early but rather closer to release

[tardy marsh]

I also think they have a lot more experience with the game engine and development.

[cinder notch]

Well if Sean wants us to stop lighting fires then he knows what to do

🔥

There’s a fire

Watcha gonna do about it Sean

Huh

🔥

[foggy geyser]

Tiny evil skeletons?

https://tenor.com/view/gif-algorythm-hoeme-until-we-gif-again-gif-26310104

Like skeletor?

[agile bay]

What is light no fire?

[opaque citrus]

New game from hello games.
Release date TBA

https://youtu.be/jKQem4Z6ioQ?feature=shared

Basicaly NMS but on 1 planet in fantasy skin

[cinder notch]

“Fantasy skin” sounds like a euphemism for cosplay

[pallid grove]

Is the health tracker those small dots in the top left corner?

[cedar niche]

but why be on one planet... when you could be on millions : D

[opaque citrus]

Sean wants to put all diversity of nms to 1 planet

[cedar niche]

ok

that sounds very sick

[opaque citrus]

1 planet but as diverse as universe

1 planet in size of irl earth

[sharp hollow]

i noticed that too and was wondering the same thing

[pallid grove]

can't even call it a health bar

[sharp hollow]

yeah

maybe something else?

[pallid grove]

the weapon type that you're using also seams to change for where you are.

[sharp hollow]

thats prob just to make the atmosphere better in the trailer

if i had to guess

[pallid grove]

bottom right corner

went from staff to bow when they hopped on the dragon

[sharp hollow]

oh really?

maybe it automatically switches to ranged when you hop on a dragon because you can't really use melee from a dragon

[kindred flax]

just looked at the lnf video on youtube : 17 million veiws

[sharp hollow]

thats a lot

[dusky marten]

It's where the NMS health tracker is and you see it in various states, so it's a good guess.

[tardy halo]

Any way to make it split screen co-op?

[void palm]

Are you talking about Light No Fire?

[tardy halo]

Yes. NMS would be nice also though. My wife and I like playing games together. I should have worded that better though lol

[pallid grove]

Light No Fire isn't out yet.

[slate crag]

do you guys think sean is going through multiple world seeds and picking out the best one?

[cinder notch]

he is planning the dates when he will send an update and reformat the seed for all players so that they lose their bases

[slate crag]

lmao

[cinder notch]

i'm an nms fan but i ain't askeert to call a gek a gek

[void palm]

How would we know lol, all we have is the first trailer

[tired gulch]

I wonder when we’ll get light no fire

I hope since it’s one planet we get super deep oceans

[fierce kayak]

i think that’ll be the case

since we know we’ll get everest sized mountains

Wonder if HG would do an early access release. I wouldn’t play it until full release anyway, but it might be a good option for them

[tardy marsh]

I'd absolutely play early access if it would become available on console, which I highly doubt.

[cinder notch]

i've only seen early access on xbox, never on ps unless they call it an open beta

[tardy marsh]

I so hope we get this building style in LNF. It’s a base I built in Smalland. Great style and would suit LNF for sure.

[tranquil verge]

Has there been any info about betas or alphas yet

[pallid grove]

No we just have the trailer

[cinder notch]

And now we have a leaked teaser

[void palm]

Wait what!?

[eternal dock]

where

[foggy geyser]

Will it be a simulation, perhaps we will build the simulation perhaps we will become JOEL of the Nms universe

[patent furnace]

Reference to April Fool's joke by Gunter who was Sean Murray for a few hours: #other-games message cc @eternal dock

[void palm]

Yeah I realized after
It was posted on the second in my timezone tho

[eternal dock]

Oh I keep forgetting lol because of different timezones

[bitter quest]

I am praying they don't use P2P for Light No Fire. I can't even play a certian friend even if we are on the same network.

10 seconds after grouping... disconnected

[frozen inlet]

Facts

[woeful prawn]

Im hella hyped for LNF just look at the refferences:

It would be fun to think LNF would be another simulation of Atlas?

[cinder notch]

no man's skyrim

[tidal mantle]

planet size of the earth with the same random generation as in NMS?

[fierce kayak]

i can’t imagine an indie team making an earth sized planet that isn’t randomly generated

[foggy geyser]

Thought you were also sean for awhile

[patent furnace]

[foggy geyser]

[soft loom]

this game is going to be a game killer

[patent furnace]

!LNFLink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[patent furnace]

Definitely excited about it

[soft loom]

hell yea

i love hallo games they are doing a good job and have done a good job of no man sky and i love it a lot and i hear they are making this game coming out its going to rip into the other survival games out there and bring lots of people to play it

[patent furnace]

Yeah, HG's definitely proven to have a passion for their games and continue to reward their player-base and fans with beautiful content over the years. Can't wait to see what comes next with LNF

[soft loom]

me too

[worn spade]

Really hyped for the game! I can't wait for news about it, most likely this summer? I hope so!

[opaque citrus]

HG is quiet about it. I suspect some info on some big showcase. Maybe TGA.

[muted breach]

what I was theorizing was that this was FAR before nms takes place, but in the same universe and simulation. or maybe before the simulation but the same Canon universe if that makes sense. I'm kinda hoping that it's before the atlas' simulation thing

[unique ruin]

Honestly, I hope it's separate

[muted breach]

erm.. bad opinion!! /j

[unique ruin]

;0

[foggy geyser]

Lighting every fire!

[idle axle]

ill get it on my ps4 even if it blows up in the process

[patent furnace]

Not sure if anyone's shared this video before. It's not new. I don't recognize the content creator but Google suggested it tonight so I watched it. One bit I found insightful, starting around 10mins, was the review of past comments made by Sean Murray in interviews (quoting a subreddit post I'll have to find), giving insight into the timeline when development started (including the mention of Hello Labs): https://youtu.be/5fElRXAwisg?si=EtU1NtQB6i4MzVEw

Woot! I think I found it...

Light No Fire Development Timeline

https://www.reddit.com/r/LightNoFireHelloGames/s/Elx2yPwreF

[soft loom]

@patent furnace yea I watched the same video but I'm still going to get game

[mossy bramble]

light fire

[coral flicker]

I wonder how they'll do a level up system since you can use flying mounts to traverse? zones? enemy types? ranked missions?

I imagine they'll do it by biomes so something like valhiem

[sterile furnace]

or not even have a level system at all 🤷‍♂️
progression route could be related to resources / gear / etc

[coral flicker]

I agree. instead of multi tool / starship power - it'll be sword and magic

[cinder notch]

i look forward to googling "how to find S Level swords in LNF"

[coral flicker]

LOL

[midnight stream]

This would be sick

[muted breach]

thanks!

[midnight stream]

And maybe if in lnf they showed like the beginning stages of the atlas becoming the atlas somehow, i think that’d also be cool

[muted breach]

yeah!

that'd be reallt cool

I love indie games because they can actually be creative as opposed to AAA ones

[midnight stream]

Exactly they do what they want unlike other games that just try to impress with cool graphics or smth

[sterile furnace]

was thinking about this some more. I'd love to see a "prequel" to the events that led to the atlas. || The actual world before, what happened to it and why it was abandoned, the story of it's creator and why it "left the atlas behind"||

But i just don't see it being a thing in LnF considering it being more fantasy based, and in what looks like a time period too early for such.

I could see it being set in the early cycles of the
Atlas though.
But in reality we may see this more in the form of multiple Easter eggs, and references to NMS, rather than it being an actual foundation of the game's lore

For sure there's gonna be at least some easter eggs

[muted breach]

well I mean an earlier version of the atlas is present in LnF, so who knows

[visual patio]

I don’t see both aspects not being able to happen

[sterile furnace]

As in it being set in the "world" that led to the creation of the atlas and still have easter eggs?

[visual patio]

Yes, maybe Easter eggs about how maybe the atlas came to be ?

Or a parallel dimension planet type scenario where the atlas takes a slightly different form of perception/worship

[visual patio]

I also think we could easily have a OG stargate type set up. I mean the portals are a hint of that for sure.

[sterile furnace]

Maybe.
I've personally always been curious in the "before" of things. (not just in NMS even in life lol)
Like what came before the Atlas, where, who...
In the game lore we only get a tiny glimpse of it.

That's why i think it would be cool to explore the Genesis

ofc that will just go down an endless circular rabbit hole, cause then you'll want to know about the Genesis of such world as well so it's always gonna be a chicken and egg kinda deal

Even then, just getting more understanding of the || "why" the creator left the atlas like it did, of what happen to their world, of what purpose it was created for even||

Also yea, more Stargate portals?? sign me up

[visual patio]

I mean more like the premise of stargate SG-1, how a lot of worlds they go to through the stargate a are setback in time extremely far back compared to the SG team. NMS uses the animation of the portals activating in homage to stargate portals. So I have though The LNF world could be like one of those worlds kept back in time due to the creators of the Altas maybe

[muted reef]

How many years do you think we gotta wait?

[cinder notch]

2

[short beacon]

what if i.. lit a fire

[pallid grove]

Light it and see what happens

[short beacon]

🔥

[pallid grove]

Now we wait

[cinder notch]

What you gonna do Shan Berry

[coarse birch]

I really like what they are doing for light no fire now

No more mentions. Just working on the game till release. Then they will release a final trailer before release and the game will come out.

[cinder notch]

we will keep the hype fires non-fires alit

[sand wasp]

[short beacon]

🔥

[sharp hollow]

🧯

[foggy geyser]

Yes

EVERY fire!! Must be lit!!

[pallid grove]

Gleam got roasted.

[tired gulch]

Personally I’m really hoping Light No Fire has hyper aggressive mobs and pvp

I want it to be everything NMS can’t be because of circumstances and how it came to be

Games like Rust and Ark just aren’t fun because you can spawn camp, server camp/hunt, limited player count etc. but on a single server, single planet, encounter imagine how fun that would be

[sterile furnace]

im just here hoping for a triple A valheim with a Hello Games magic touch

[cinder notch]

unbloodylikely

[tired gulch]

I think it’s rather likely it can have it

[short beacon]

Gonna put the survival part to the test

[tired gulch]

At least hostile entities at least, because the only reason NMS doesn’t have worms that eat us or giant snakes is simply that

They would intercept peaceful explorers

There wouldn’t be a way to avoid it

like if you were scanning all creatures

You can’t control where the deadly things spawn

But in Light no fire, the creature spawns are all one planet, more focused and probably more coherent now that it isn’t spread so thin

[short beacon]

Imagine we find the light no fire planet

[tired gulch]

I don’t think we would because it’s in development for 5 years and organized to be the whole engine for a single planet

but I wish

[short beacon]

Just as like a nod within a cutscene

||similar to the prime atlas station, or the inaccessible planet||

[tired gulch]

We could probably see that

or a cross over event

[tacit lantern]

Finally was able to get the invite link yo work! Can’t wait to hear more news about LNF. Been having alot of fun with NMS since these last two updates

[cinder notch]

i think it's 100% guaranteed that it /could/, but 1% chance that it /will/

[tired gulch]

Don’t be weird with chances you just don’t want pvp and that’s fine

But i’m saying the survival aspect is definitely

going to be there

because as much as I’d like to say we’d all be friends traveling a big earth that is no mans sky 2

[cinder notch]

i'm all for AI mobs

but they've released two other games

signposts are readily visible

and legible

[tacit lantern]

I think alot of us decent players dont want pvp cause we know there are ppl out there that love to play, “lets go destroy someones base”. With no regard to how much time or resources were spent building it.

[sterile furnace]

pvp never ends up being good in these survival craft games anyways.
But i wouldn't mind a bit more hardcorish valheim-like pve

[tired gulch]

It kind of depends with pvp based on the developers

[tired gulch]

and no mans sky also has a base upload system

I think it would be more like the base raiding game i’ve been playing lately where they’d virtual raid

A lot of pvp games don’t play into the fact that the base doesn’t need to be gone-gone, people just want to play wrecking ball

[pallid grove]

If you look at the trailer it kind of looks like it’s going to have the same building system as NMS

[tired gulch]

So I would argue that mechanic isn’t the players fault but the developers

If the base is gone for the psychopath raider they’re none the wiser about your base being intact

[tired gulch]

It’s why I think it could have some pvp related to it with base uploading

It’s only natural it would follow the same general rules because it’s the same custom engine

and pvp is still a thing in nms even if people want to ignore it

It is a setting, and people do participate in it

[pallid grove]

But building in NMS isn’t connected to the combat

[tired gulch]

because it would be invasive

NMS had aggressive play locked out of it from the start,

Because anyone who stayed was there for the exploring too

Like Sean even mentioned giant worms remained aesthetic because they’d kill you unexpectedly and forcefully

which is why we have the smaller more easily manageable ones

I’m not expecting some all expansive crazy pvp feature, but I am expecting it to be a little more visible in a more controlled fantasy environment

It’s also why I expect deep oceans to be a thing now that it’s one planet

I’m hoping Light no Fire covers at least a couple things No man’s Sky hasn’t really been “allowed” to do

it doesn’t have to be pvp, but pvp and deep oceans are two things I really want because I want to see what can happen with the engine they have when it’s used that way

[tacit lantern]

From the trailer and comments it sounds like it could have very deep waters

[tired gulch]

Yeah that’s the big thing i’m hoping for

because pvp is like a side wish?

[tacit lantern]

I kinda hope for a interesting underdark type thing as well

[tired gulch]

Also everyone really misunderstands games like Rust, ark and Conan

[pallid grove]

I just want my dwarven hall

[tired gulch]

What causes the environment to be that way is the way the developers make it

Those games all have a server locked system

60 players in one room no more

[tacit lantern]

So how are those games meant to be played then?

[tired gulch]

If you lock even 5 people in a room together for 3 months tell me what happens

No entertainment except building blocks

[tacit lantern]

Well these games are more sophisticated then that tho

[tired gulch]

The reason they’re played the way they are is because you can’t do anything without building up

[pallid grove]

Also people go into those games looking to fight

[tired gulch]

but without being aggressive you can’t build up because dying means starting over

There’s tons of people not looking for a fight in fact

[tacit lantern]

How can you not build up without being aggressive?

[tired gulch]

Rust in particular usually leaves role players alone

on a couple servers people would build a church and big people would build around you to defend you

Servers usually adapt a clan mind set as well especially in Ark

In ark it was incredibly popular to unite as an entire server

and go to raid against another entirely specific server

[tacit lantern]

🧐

[tired gulch]

Because Ark had server transferring

so 100 people vs 100 people

in a 100 pop cap server

well 2 servers of 100 pop cap

[pallid grove]

Do you prefer large scale pvp like all out warfare, or smaller pvp like raids or arenas?

[tired gulch]

It’s usually very specific people who map wipe and it’s usually because the person wiped was the aggressor 99% of the time in ark

[tired gulch]

I’ve tried both

I’m neutral on both

I simply enjoy a bit of friendly competition and would like to see regenerating bases as a concept that’s used

[tacit lantern]

Hmm interesting

That would be great

[tired gulch]

Lots of people simply enjoy the destruction factor in games like Ark and Rust

it’s never about causing intense pain for everyone

People just like showcasing that

[pallid grove]

So would you prefer random raiding or would you prefer if both sides had to opt in?

[tacit lantern]

Personally i dislike losing all my stuff when i die. Then cant get it back cause where i died i would jsut die again

[tired gulch]

Opting in doesn’t work well, Ark tried that with offline protection

But regenerating bases worked well in one I played, it was a trap base thing hold on i’ll look it up

Meet your maker

You make a base for people to raid and based on the kills your base got you got resources from their body of them destroying your stuff

[tired gulch]

This was common in Ark just because the environment filled with dinosaurs would kill you a couple dozen times

[tired gulch]

The opt-in I do expect light no fire to have in the scenario I picture would be keeping resources or base stuff that you drop

Since custom settings would definitely stick around in a world that dangerous

The only opt in that works is having a pvp specific mode

[tacit lantern]

Yea that’s another reason i stopped ark

[tired gulch]

Yeah that changed usually once Genesis happened

Was very fun

[tacit lantern]

They fixed that then? So you can set the option to lose your stuff or mot on death?

[tired gulch]

Just easier to get around, Genesis gave you a full tek suit on spawn

[pallid grove]

Also won’t dragons make base defenses useless?

[tired gulch]

Simple terms is dinos couldnt touch you players couldnt catch you

[tired gulch]

No, it makes it more fun in fact

Ark has dragons and other mythical creatures

The only main issue with ark was time consumption and clipping glitches because of hand crafted map

[tacit lantern]

Was? Past tense?

[tired gulch]

They changed that too

Genesis let you buy resources and cryo pods

patched kibble so most dinosaur taming takes under 2 hours if you do it properly

and a single player game/dedicated server is able to have all stats edited individually

There’s also 4-16 player team official servers that boosted the server by 8x or more

So on average you’d have a full base in a day

Cryo pods paused baby timers and made dinosaur raising much easier for the regular player

they nerfed levels so they don’t get as high and also wiped servers

[pallid grove]

Man… we really need more info…

[tired gulch]

Now, I still wouldn’t recommend pvp ark servers to the uninitiated. The game itself is still very brutal.

Rust has a lot of alternatives that entertain people too, like trap bases that abuse how a person would raid and defends well. Or role playing and helping others by just running around, since you don’t actually need a base in it.

Both ark and rust have living at sea options that keep people away from you for weeks at a time too

[tired gulch]

Yeah, I for one just really want to know if it’ll cover things NMS can’t do because of community variety

So all in all, I believe pvp in ark form would be different in No man’s sky, because you aren’t trapped in a tiny box with no way out like rust

Further explaining that point, the biggest problem in all games like Rust or Ark is room for a base

A huge cause for raids is usually just needing somewhere to live if someone doesn’t let you in

any server with less than 20 people was remarkably peaceful in both games

[wheat skiff]

some things i wonder about light no fire:

1. if someone names a rock on the other side of a continent, why cant you name it? they arent important. different cultures call different things different names. it makes sense in nms setting not lnf.
2. will there be a base-style claiming system or more territorial like a nation?

[tired gulch]

Oh that was the other thing that made me think of pvp

I wonder how we’ll travel or spawn and how easily you can get to each other from base spawn without joining on each other

[fierce kayak]

i assume naming things won’t be a feature in lnf

[cinder notch]

then i shall play as The Nameless One

[fierce kayak]

no u smoosh

[tired gulch]

I could see random dungeons taking the role of planets in this game

That would be another nice way to get pets or other things

[fierce kayak]

definitely interested in seeing what they do with dungeons/caves

[cinder notch]

and magma cores, don't forget about the magma cores

[sterile furnace]

[fierce kayak]

how could i forget magma core magma cores

[cinder notch]

i hear they are on fire right now

[fierce kayak]

guess we'll have to put them out

[cinder notch]

bold

[tired gulch]

I wonder if the procedural areas include cavern world, ocean world of such

[bronze sedge]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[crisp vault]

🧯

[strong cliff]

🌊

[fierce kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-volcano-eruption-fortnite-volcano-fortnite-volcano-volcano-eruption-gif-9634257771148874650

[opaque citrus]

💡🚫 🔥

[short beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-kyogre-groudon-watch-yo-gif-25166886

wrong groudon gif but whatever

[cinder notch]

!news

[bronze sedge]

Check 📌

@short beacon

[short beacon]

So x ox has some kinda showcase in June right, wonder if we will see more about the game by than, really interested to see the diversity of dragons, and character customization.

I want a pretty Intimidating looking dragon.

Also wonder if we could make them grow to very large sizes

[sand wasp]

Hope so

Also I saw your question in #no-mans-sky

!Lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[sterile furnace]

[lost horizon]

When is this game coming out?!

[opaque citrus]

No release date

No pc requirements

No official confirmed platforms

Let them cook

Imo it will be simliar to NMS erlease time from first trailer.

[sterile furnace]

i was hoping differently.
first time sean wanted to hype and get the talk going possibly get investement and project was still early.
This time they been cooking the game in their basement for years and have probably learnt better approach

(maybe just my wishful thinking :)

[opaque citrus]

HG also has release ptsd so they will release it later than sooner.

[sterile furnace]

Listen last december at TGA i was hoping for a KCD 2 announcement. I thought we would still have to wait 2-3 years from confirmation of a new project.
Turns out they just released the trailer with an ETA to same year

i'm just hoping more companies start doing stuff like that instead of putting us through the misery of the long term tease

stop crushing my hope

[tired gulch]

Year 2077 in the middle of our Cyber Punk era

Old man sean: Light no fire is finally releasing today

We did all the updates in advance

I wonder if we’ll have moon access

by way of teleporter or something

[cinder notch]

fully generated "world" not "worlds"

[tired gulch]

I’m mainly just wondering about a regular moon not a no mans sky moon

I don’t see why it would be mentioned because it would definitely be too much hype and a spoiler in story

[solid sluice]

crazy how HG showed off LNF and then nothing

and yet people are still really hyped about it

[fierce kayak]

usualllalallllalally

[sand wasp]

Exciting concept

[tired gulch]

HG just showed earth

And when you understand the engine and what it does

You can’t help but have your brain explode

and since it’s using the same engine it can’t be worse than no mans sky

I mean not immensely anyway

So it has a safe lowbar with the highbar that gets set for it

[inner vector]

Still huffing the copium for all the VR goodness in the NMS game engine to be carried over to LNF.

[sharp hollow]

yeah

it would be really sad if it wasn't vr

i prob wouldn't end up playing it

[arctic cradle]

Huh.. I should stay away from them.

[sand wasp]

Or thank them 👀

[arctic cradle]

yeah but at a distance

[storm flame]

The question is who did he kill

[pallid grove]

not it

[tired gulch]

Or alternatively gladiatorial battle for celebration

Everytime I see the trailer for Light No Fire again I get so excited and want to play it right now

I wish I could work for a company like Hello games

[cinder notch]

I wish I could play a new game from hello games

[tired gulch]

Did you play Last campfire yet

It’s really fun

[grizzled anvil]

It would be cool to see features from LNF bleed over into NMS, such as multiple biome planets

[gaunt galleon]

they should def add a elf and dwarf race to the mix of civilization

[deft lagoon]

has lnf been realeased?

[pallid grove]

no all we have is the trailer

[cinder notch]

For the next two years

[opaque citrus]

Or three

[short beacon]

Or four

[tired gulch]

I’m hoping thats what happens since it’s the same engine

So that certain things like deeper oceans bleed over

but if not i’m happy that Light No Fire will be basically NMS2

Spiritual Sequel

The right kind of sequel

[pine breach]

I think i saw a version of this somewhere else but I want lnf to be another one of the atlas’ “dreams” and it now has 15 minutes of operational time remaining. And this would kind of suggest that there will be 14 more games in the atlas storyline-thing. This is really outlandish and probably won’t happen but it’s a cool idea

[void palm]

Doubtful tbh
I think HG have learned from their mistakes with the nms release
Iirc Sean also said they didn’t want to announce games way before they’re approaching release ready.

[sand wasp]

Well he said he didn't want a drawn out media campaign, and they aren't advertising it at all

[cinder notch]

Lnf betting pool when

[tired gulch]

In general I think it’s more just the excitement to show off that amazing project you’ve been working on after theorizing with toys in your basement

Imagine holding in all that wow for 5 years

Something that kind of broke apart release for NMS is other people also hyped it too when it was kind of just a guy excited to tell the world his dreams

And after releasing the prototype proceeding to prove to the people that were disappointed that the dream was going to be a reality like it was described

So I can understand not wanting a drawn out media campaign because sometimes when you’re showing stuff of you just want to go off in a huge excited burst especially when it’s something others for sure haven’t done before

Game development as a current misses a lot of big games that follow that aspect lately, most people care about how to market it the most & put time/fun/enjoyment on the side burner for after the marketable product exists

[subtle bluff]

lights fire

[sand wasp]

[void palm]

I still have plans to make a plunderers community when this game releases

[woven hornet]

When is this game supposed to come out??

[patent furnace]

here @woven hornet one of the pins with the YouTube video

[patent furnace]

no news on release time unfortunately

[patent furnace]

here's a Reddit thread where someone shared a "timeline" when Sean's made comments about the game too...but again, no word on estimated release time

another pin, with a link to the website: https://www.lightnofire.com/

and we also have a Discord server for it too: https://discord.gg/lightnofire

<t:1749929163:d> Edit: Discord Url was updated. No more dashes / old link no longer valid: https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[woven hornet]

I looked at the trailer. This game has the potential to turn the gaming world upside down.

One thing I’m NOT excited about is the probable download size, OR the hypothetical specs that would be needed to run it.

NMS succeeded because the download size was relatively small. All you needed was the parts to different planets…flora…fauna…and let the CPU and GPU figure it out and calculate things.

This??? I’m thinking 100 GB minimum.

[analog hill]

I really hope we get to a bit see more LNF before it releases tbh

still not fully sold on it yet

[opaque citrus]

Game will run on same engine as NMS and also will be proc gen. So it should not be too big (nms is around 16GB)

[opaque citrus]

I bet there will be more trailers in the future that will show more.

[sinful harbor]

I wonder if light no fire multiplayer is like hell diver 2 or guild wars 1

Single player but occasionally at certain location/ hubs you meet other player to gather together to do missions

[shut sorrel]

within the first 5 seconds of the trailer

Most likely, knowing HG, its gonna be multiplayer open world. Not hub based.

[opaque citrus]

I think there will be hubs of some kind. Capitals of some sort. When u and your friend will spawn on diffrent sides of planet they need to implement way to meet up and play together.

[sharp hollow]

i was thinking maybe something like the anomaly

[deep granite]

theres probably gonna be portals

[tender horizon]

I hope we’ll get those better looking clouds in NMS 😶

Creature animations also look much more advanced 😯

Atlas gonna be jealous

[cinder notch]

I still want to see a betting sheet
I call dibs on November 2025

[sharp hollow]

i'm guessing december 2024

[opaque citrus]

Imo 3 years from first trailer. Simliar to nms.

[cinder notch]

ok so what's the date

looks like december 2026

[opaque citrus]

Yes . End of 2026

[glad condor]

Are light no fire and no mans sky going to co exist or will no mans sky stop

[patent furnace]

They're separate games. HG has made other games that haven't been shut down. So I doubt NMS would shut down just because Light No Fire is released. HG also announced positions opening for Light No Fire, so they may have enough resources to manage all their IPs just fine. And if their games continue to be played, and they can all continue to be sources of revenue, I don't see why they'd need to put a stop to any of their projects.

[glad condor]

Alright

And I'm guessing light no fire won't be on ps4

[void palm]

You never know

[winged frigate]

Aim ready to move on from nms to this

[opaque citrus]

There is no offical platform confirmation but imo it will be ps5 xbox PC. It Would be awesome if they managed to squize it into ps4.

[void palm]

Definitely not Switch tho

However we are getting news about the next Nintendo console before march next year, so maybe we’ll get it eventually

[tired gulch]

Engines pretty adaptable but I imagine it would be like with switch and get a lower quality version later on

[tired gulch]

The current engine is still designed for all the consoles as of right now so I don’t see how it couldn’t be in all of them in the future

[glad condor]

I wonder how they'll handle discovering and uploading stuff as everyone on one planet is alot more doable then every player spread across multiple galaxies

[opaque citrus]

Maybe , but without cuting content and performance? I doubt it. Ps4 chokes often enough with what it has. Not mentioning switch.

[tired gulch]

Ps4 doesnt really choke that often, i’ve played on it and ps5

Like I said in a worst case scenario, it’ll likely just get a cut content version like switch got

[feral iris]

The switch version is pretty solid. I have it so I can play in bed. It’s a great system tbh

[sand kindle]

When will LNF come out?

[sharp brook]

Hopefully we find out next week at summer games fest

[sand kindle]

or by 2099

Dec 31

[void palm]

Nobody knows

[foggy geyser]

The year 2287, you just have to talk to one Preston Garvey

[crisp vault]

Or Mac 😔

[balmy lily]

I hope we'll be able to build our bases into some sailing ships or even airships, to get a moving base.
This would fit so well with such kind of game

[tired gulch]

It seemed like we might at least get islands

[balmy lily]

Is there a suggestion channel somewhere ?

[tired gulch]

No you could probably use their zendesk too

I was thinking of sending a request for them to try something i’ve always dreamed of a game having:

Procedural magic

[balmy lily]

What is it ?

[tired gulch]

Imagine no mans sky’s engine or things like stable diffusion but used in a game for magic

[balmy lily]

I still don't get it bro

[tired gulch]

Then you’re not going to

Google would just be better

[balmy lily]

Alr I'll look for that cuz it's seems a pretty good idea even if I don't get it

[foggy geyser]

Gotta light every fire so no one else has to! Wait could that be a group, the FireLighters?

[visual lark]

It's another 1.5 hours before the event starts right? Might not watch the new Light No Fire trailer until tomorrow then maybe. 😄

Or maybe they open with it. Since the trailer was really succesful last time. Though, I think they might keep people weaiting a bit.

[patent furnace]

Any news yet?

[visual lark]

Nope. Few hours to get yet, so going to sleep relatively soon probably :3

Hope they don't save it for last

[patent furnace]

[rigid iron]

who is watching the summer games fest?

[visual lark]

🤚

[rigid iron]

Lets hope we get some LNF :D

[visual lark]

Sean's trailer hint can't be for nothing

[rigid iron]

true

[visual lark]

I've sat through too many meh things and admittedly some really cool ones too at this point

So I need that trailer 😛

[rigid iron]

Same :v

But if they want to keep hype low until the game is polished enough, i wont complain :)

but

if u don't mind Sean...

A little trailer should be fine 👍

And a release date would be cool too XD

[visual lark]

100% 😄

Or a release year

[rigid iron]

yeah, that would be amazing 🤩

[worldly garnet]

I thought it was confirmed for 2024, was I wrong?

[visual lark]

Don't think they've give n any indication either way tbh

But if we get a trailer, it would make sense from a marketing perspective to include something or other on release dates

Unless it is quite a while off still

[worldly garnet]

Hopefully they don't pull a Rockstar and give us a two years notice 😅

[visual lark]

🤞

[worldly garnet]

(Hoping for 2024 to be honest)

[visual lark]

Sooooo we hit the end and fires remain incredibly unlit

I have no idea what that Sean tweet was meant to be now tbh

[patent furnace]

Any news yet?

[visual lark]

Nope 😭

They are on day of the devs now, but I think odds aren't big

Though trailers at the main event are way expensive for devs

So it's not impossible

Slowly accepting we'll get nothing today, so I really should do sleep

[rigid iron]

damn

[visual lark]

😭😭😭

[rigid iron]

go to sleep guys

[rigid iron]

that's enough for me

if there's a chance, even a slight one, i'll keep watching 🫡

[visual lark]

I apologize if it was just Sean being coy when he worked on a future trailer or something, but it was such a specific quote retweet, lol

[rigid iron]

Yeah xD

[rigid iron]

Okay there's almost no chance we will get something today :v

gn guys :)

[patent furnace]

[fiery cave]

light no fire when

need now

[analog aurora]

https://youtu.be/6pZYfCbtiyM?si=dJ_m46fLNxTKByoT

[sharp kettle]

torn between "wow that was so wildly inappropriate" and "omg I haven't laughed so hard since I don't know when" 😂 😂

[rigid iron]

Any news from LNF?

[pallid grove]

no, we got nothing

[rigid iron]

damn

[covert tapir]

I hope they aim for next gen actually. As much as I enjoyed and sometimes still enjoy NMS, that game was released about 16 months too soon.

PS5 and XBSX are just not there. Maybe in 2027 we will be there for LNF to be as good as it can be.

Masterpieces take time.

oh and Hi. I am a noob here.

[fringe forge]

they been working on LNF for 5 years already.. NMS was around 3 years before release..right? ... so we can asume the game is pretty polished,but i agree it may not have some things like "super amazing combat" but as long as there are magic spells, riding a dragon and exploring the world with it is all i need

tho.. the one question would be if there are dungeons,, u know . like underground dungeons,caves like minecraft does,with monsters to kill and loot to find

[short beacon]

True but they are also still a smaller team and they have a lot of them still working on NMS. The last thing anyone wants is another nms launch, be that bugs, or just bad PR.

I’m fine with letting it bake for a little while more.

Bethesda has been working on TES VI for about a million years and they are a huge company.

I half expect “TES IV: SKYRIM 2” at this point

[fringe forge]

bethesda is a joke ..

[sharp hollow]

bethesda isn't the best company to compare to lol

[short beacon]

Not really. They have had missteps sure, bad releases yea. They have had a string of turd games, but the fallout show was awesome.

Bethesda is a fine comparison when we’re talking abt release dates.

Would you rather a rockstar comparison?

[fringe forge]

i dont think u read what i said,,, they been working on LNF for 5 years.. more time than NMS on release... the lvl of polishing and bug fixes are so much higher than what happend with NMS and sean learned his lesson..they gived us the LNF trailer with a playable game ,,all that in the trailer was gameplay 100%

now my question is,, how stupid looking will the monsters,animals will be? or they will be close to real earth (bears,werewolf,yeti,cryptids) .. bcs i see skeletons..soo

[short beacon]

That doesn’t mean anything. Companies can slap together an E3 trailer pretty easily.

Duke Nukem had entire gameplay and footage and we never got the game they showed back then.

I’m saying that it doesn’t mean we will get it this year or even next. It doesn’t mean that it’s even close to ready.

I’m happy with letting it bake more.

[cinder notch]

let the man cook

[worn spade]

Pretty confused that we didn't get anything shown at the Summer Game Fest after Sean's tweet some time ago (He replied "just as well" to Geoff Keighley, from The Game Awards and behind Summer Game Fest, posting "I love watching new video game trailers."), I was conviced it was a teaser for it. Maybe they need more time, or could it be due to how The Game Awards rushed many including them to send their videos?

[sterile furnace]

Or it could be just Sean doing a perfectly normal tweet, like a person with normal presence on social media.
But the fact is, all his actions are over analyzed by us, and so we bamboozled ourselves with it.

Form what i had seen, he even deleted his tweet already??
can't check properly without logging to Musk's website

[worn spade]

You're right, it could be a normal tweet. I still can see it on my side so not deleted, it's just that he does not do that a lot, usually he reposts screenshots of No Man's Sky, tease us with emojis, reposts when articles mentions the game etc... Times when he tweets normally are pretty rare, and since he does not communicate a lot he didn't deny it either, so I was hoping for something with many ^^'

[sterile furnace]

ah not deleted. Good to know 👍

[rigid iron]

yup

[void palm]

There was that one pickle tweet…but we don’t talk about that one

[worn spade]

Oh ok, I see. Thanks!

[fringe forge]

i mean i like skyrim but anything else is bad and they lie to us and take us as "redacted"

[rigid iron]

yeah xD

the only reason bethesda games are alive is cuz modders

[fringe forge]

they cant even make a proper procedural world and then we have ppl comparing their game with hello games

which is a big insult to sean

[rigid iron]

ye

its incredible that an AAA game is worse than an indie having 5 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT

[fringe forge]

more like "triple degrade" ...shame todd shame

[frank fjord]

I genuinly thought the PC Games show was the ace in the hole

[fringe forge]

it was the niddle in the hole... and i mean the other one

more like mobile pixels

[frank fjord]

Anyone here about that Light No Sky experiment

[fringe forge]

if they are PC games... im ded

[worn spade]

I am honestly excited for Light No Fire, they learned so much with No Man's Sky over the years from procedural generation to gameplay, features etc so I am really confident on the game delivering quite the experience! So excited to play it on release day, also the landscape looks amazing and varied from the trailers, can't wait to have more videos when the next trailer releases

Maybe we'll get something at the next event, or they will just publish a video like they do for updates?

[simple light]

How much longer

[tired gulch]

I saw a reddit post or two worried and/or insisting it’d be as bad as No mans sky release and I thought it was really funny

Because those people don’t understand it’s using the same engine

it can’t be worse, the worse is just no mans sky spiritual successor and I see no downside

[worn spade]

Right? Also they can improve the Engine for that game and add more features to it for the generation etc, like they did for all the biomes on the same planet, seen nowhere in NMS (beside the height map sometimes)

[tired gulch]

Exactly, at it’s surface it’s still NMS condensed to a single planet

and just like when I bought nms day one

I’m expecting a big world to just walk around in

Not some grand insane thing that Sean likes to accidentally show it as because realistically we all have that excited project mode

”It’s going to do allllll this”

[drifting cradle]

Since we all waiting for more light no fire and we got no mans sky, was thinking if folks would be interested in community populating a planet/system maybe around those more medieval themes or just fire lol

Euclid galaxy for easy access, then maybe a system with a lush and torched planets

[tawny junco]

oblivion 😔

[coarse dune]

ok just saw the channel and i just got one question: do we know when its gonna finally happen?

elden ring dlc, light no fire and wukong black myth are the biggest games for me this year 😄

[void palm]

We have no clue

All we have is the first trailer

[cold cypress]

I miss a good sandbox survival MMO with player driven economy ;-; It would be good if Light No Fire was an MMO too

Cause NMS is a different one, like, the universe is so great that we just dont meet each other

Or a good way woulb be bring a new economy update to nms

I miss more interaction with players and economy

[void palm]

I believe the Steam page doesn’t mention anything about it being an MMO

[cold cypress]

I can be talking shit cause Im new in nms but i havent seen anything like this in the game yet

[cold cypress]

yes, sadly

[cinder notch]

LNF will /not/ be one of the biggest games for anybody this year lmao

[coarse dune]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-nodding-golden-girls-betty-white-rose-nylund-gif-1065076748312954815

[void palm]

Who knows, maybe they shadow drop it at TGA

[smoky peak]

There's no light, there's only fire😱

[patent furnace]

[tired gulch]

Some day we get it

It could be tomorrow

It could be sunday

or it’ll just be 10 years from now on a day that you slept in

[opaque citrus]

Sean: lets put out a trailer of LNF . Nothing too fancy so pepole will not get too hyped. And maybe we will release in next year or two.
LNF trailer: 17mil views , most watched hg vid.
Sean: oh god... ok change of plans. It has to be perfect on release. It will be released when its ready.

[torpid onyx]

IDK. Hello Games released a total dumpster fire once. Look how that turned out.

Maybe Light No Fire should be one?

I'm actually gonna be a little worried if everything works right out of the box...

[tired gulch]

Dumpster fire makes the trashy people leave right away

Look at how well NMS turned out it’d amazing because any bad people were long gone and the rush was over by the time it was good by their standards

Even on release NMS was still such a fun game and technological marvel, it still inspires me to make a game of my own one day.

[torpid onyx]

Oh, it was HORRIBLE at launch. The Steam boards in particular were terrible very early on. I actually got banned for defending the game. XD

So... huh! Maybe that's a good idea then! XD

[cinder notch]

To get another account banned

[silver cloud]

I assume there is no play tests of LNF yet right?

I hope NMS eventually benifits from engine improvements done in LNF!

[sterile furnace]

One could say, we have probably already been experiencing some stuff for a while

[torpid onyx]

XD

[jaunty briar]

"What?! Someone with a different opinion than me?! BANNED"

[torpid onyx]

Launch times were very dark times. @_@

[jaunty briar]

I didnt get the game until Atlas Rises

[torpid onyx]

And any space sim fan KNEW what was gonna happen. ALL space games launch in poor condition. XD

[jaunty briar]

Not because I didn't like the game

But because I was a kid an had no money

[torpid onyx]

...that's supposed to change as we grow up?

What patch was THIS?!

[jaunty briar]

Well you at least have 60 dollars to spare when you get a job

That's what I meant as in having money

[torpid onyx]

Apparently not if it's writing! XD

[jaunty briar]

I am inbetwern jobs atm

But before I was working as a package handler

300 dollars a week for part time

[torpid onyx]

Honestly, that's not bad at all.

[jaunty briar]

In any case, we're getting off topic

[torpid onyx]

Oh right! Light No Fire will be great!

[jaunty briar]

(I agree its above minimum wage)

Yeah

Partly because hellogames knows wtf they're doing now

[silver cloud]

HG can run circles around most dev teams out there with far fewer devs.

[tired gulch]

I’d like to point out/argue they knew what they were doing in the first place but most people had and still have shitty expectations due to the state of game design as a whole

Lots of people like to talk crap, and even more are probably used to big companies dominating the advertising side of the market. If those big ones didn’t support a game it’s often ditched to work on a more profitable model.

[worldly crown]

if released on switch, what sort of compensation can we expect in exchange for the lack of multiplayer?

[cinder notch]

Probably the same amount of compensation you received for any other game you complained about

[worldly crown]

only as much as is my right as a paying customer. would you suggest otherwise?

[cinder notch]

i suggest that previous results are a generally reliable indicator for future expectations when dealing with corporations

[worldly crown]

fair enough

it certainly looks ambitious, and lovely.

[boreal bolt]

will light no fire get it's own discord?

if there's a vote I wouldn't mind the channels being added to this one..

[pallid grove]

@boreal bolt there is a discord for LNF

[boreal bolt]

okie ty

[patent furnace]

Our Light No Fire Discord
https://discord.gg/lightnofire

<t:1749929163:d> Edit: Discord Url was updated. No more dashes / old link no longer valid: https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[long fiber]

I feel I know already know the answer but...

Anything mentioned? 🥺

[patent furnace]

No news yet

[long fiber]

That makes me a sad panda

[long fiber]

Hey... What, no.

[patent furnace]

Sad goose?

[long fiber]

I thought quoting South Park would be humorous, but.. It seems I've been compromised 🪿

[cunning lion]

I have a theory that light no fire is the atlas last attempt to save itself by combining everything from no man's sky into one planet which is why the one planet in LNF is so much bigger and more diverse as are the races

[dense rain]

i think HG will be done with the no man's sky universe and move on to something different with Light No Fire

[cunning lion]

I hope not cuz it would be great for HG to take what they make on LNF and incorporate it in NMS and vice versa

[dense rain]

i've joked about another nms ARG leading up to LNF, but the theming is way off. why would ||atlas make a universe with completely different theming from a completely different time period on earth||

and the ||atlas, in the real world(in nms), will be destroyed in 16 real minutes||

||no matter what it does in its simulations, it will be destroyed||