light-no-fire

[sand wasp]

I believe in you, you are very talonted

[tawny junco]

lol

[dense lagoon]

I'm not sure that graph is accurate

It's impossible to plot the murder hobo

[vagrant magnet]

You would think players would respect the land, care for it, ect. while building the bases and so on. But I've played enough Minecraft multiplayer to know people never replant trees, will dig up mountains to clear space for a base and will essentially turn a lush forest into Mount Doom within 3 days.

[sand wasp]

That's assuming we can change the land in any meaningful way

[slate jungle]

Murder hobo is a killer, Bartle even says so
The vid I posted earlier is great
Pretty funny guy

[vagrant magnet]

Ah, the good old "you can do everything to encourge other playstyles, but you will always have That Guy running around killing every player because 'lel funni to watch u b mad' and no other reason".

[dense lagoon]

murder hobo is more a DND architype, a wandering band travelling place to place to see what's there to kill

[slate jungle]

"Killers are a bit like um, when you're eating something and it tastes bland, you think I'll just put a bit of pepper on, and now it tastes better."

Richard Bartle

[gray wind]

I hope I can eat dirt

lots of it

[rapid verge]

Seem like I’m LNF we will be able to randomly encounter people in world as it does say meet players across globe and build explore together seems more multiplayer focused as NMS it’s only in certain areas I think you see others like when u travel to there base with the portal

[vagrant magnet]

They always exist in online, and if they can hit you, they will make it their life's mission to ensure no one gets to play the video game because you being mad = funny to them.

[gray wind]

Terraform by scooping it into my mouth

[slate jungle]

Bartle has a much more nuanced view

[tawny junco]

whos bartle

[vagrant magnet]

Murder Hobos in my view are those who act like they can get anything they want via stabbing any problem in front of them to get ez rewards/gratification without consequences.

[slate jungle]

Came up with the player type theory, aka Bartle's taxonomy

[rapid verge]

I wanna live in a cave lol build a little hide away or warren should I say for my rabbit player XD

[slate jungle]

Games are literally designed using that template

[vagrant magnet]

My assumption is we get X players at max visible besides yourself in an area, and over time who you see changes.

[slate jungle]

#light-no-fire message

[rapid verge]

Like for example max player limit in area is 60 you see them but no more than 60 and that changes when people leave areas exit game and so on ?

[vagrant magnet]

Likely so. Ensuring you still get to see a lot of people in towns/ect. and out in the wild, but changes as they exit a set area or log off the game.

[rapid verge]

Now that would be cool 😎

Guys happening again I should be asleep but here I am in the channel again getting hyped XD

[vagrant magnet]

60 players in an area, but changing as people enter/exit or log in/out seems like the ideal way to do it.

[dense lagoon]

gonna be a long 2 years if you get hyped every night

[rapid verge]

Gonna be my obsession for a while that’s for sure #autism life

[vagrant magnet]

You should have seen what Kingdom Hearts fans were like when KH3 got revealed ages ago.

[dense lagoon]

I'm a KH fan

:3

[sand wasp]

3

Really though, I wouldn't be surprised at late 2024 release

[dense lagoon]

same

[sand wasp]

That's a 6 year window

Seems about right

[dense lagoon]

my feeling is early 2025 tbh

[rapid verge]

Don’t you do it, your gonna get me hyped saying that XD

[sand wasp]

Maybe August! Same day as NMS released!

[rapid verge]

[sand wasp]

Shared Anniversary!

Lol

[slate jungle]

That would be really cool

[cursive sentinel]

Epicness

[rapid verge]

Arrr crap there’s a spider on my wall

[sand wasp]

Gently cup it into your hand and kiss it, then let it go

[tawny junco]

i love kh3

[rapid verge]

No no no no no no no

[sand wasp]

[rapid verge]

Time to evacuate this room

[sand wasp]

We didn't see any spiders in the trailer, did we?

Spider Race?

Spider-Man?!

[vagrant magnet]

To be fair, if it's a fantasy game, spiders are inevitable.

[sand wasp]

For sure

[rapid verge]

XD spooder man

[cursive sentinel]

Not spiders...

[sand wasp]

Oversized stuff too

Rats

Crabs

Etc

[cursive sentinel]

Youre not making it better

[sand wasp]

Yw

[dense lagoon]

there's a crab the size of a building

[cursive sentinel]

Very funny.

[dense lagoon]

make sense there'd be a spider

[rapid verge]

Need my boot stompers

[sand wasp]

The Knowledge Bros - how large do you think they are?

They looked huge

Or it I suppose, don't know if there are multiple

[vagrant magnet]

Honestly, it isn't an RPG or survival game without huge rats, spiders and other oversized pests. Along-side the usual skellies, zombies, ect.

[sand wasp]

Yep, undead are a classic

[rapid verge]

Skeletons are in everything

[sand wasp]

Wonder if diseases are a thing? Or like - werewolves transmitting their mutation, vampires and such

[rapid verge]

I don’t mind they not scary unlike spiders

[vagrant magnet]

Oh boi, the old "pls don't turn me into a werewolf~" people would go wild.

I mean, the game already is close to going full Zootopia as-is.

[rapid verge]

Also like how it says on steam LNF brings depth of a role playing game to freedom sandbox game gonna have some good lore

[vagrant magnet]

All these races/species to choose from as playable....and yet there will STILL be people who will go as generic human with sword and shield.

[rapid verge]

I’m either going as a lizard person if there is one fox or rabbit

Humans boring

😆

[vagrant magnet]

aka the Asmongold mentality of "I can be literally anything I want to be....so I"m gonna be an unga bunga human warrior".

[cursive sentinel]

Yeah so?

[sand wasp]

Bunny Power

[rapid verge]

If your gonna play fantasy go all out

[sand wasp]

Humans are in most fantasy too

But I'm a Bunny

[cursive sentinel]

BunnyGleam

[sand wasp]

At least, with the ones we have seen so far

If there is a Tiger looking race?

Oh yeah

[vagrant magnet]

And usually with short brown hair, maybe facial hair, and default body shape settings.

[gray wind]

I hope there’s worms :))))

[rapid verge]

👀

[sand wasp]

There will be worms

But as enemies

Giant ones

[vagrant magnet]

Once I can post images, I am going all-out checking the trailer for anything of note.

[sand wasp]

Oooo

[gray wind]

I’ll ask HG. Lil favor. Hey guys i would like worm friends

[sand wasp]

Maybe we can get a worm mount!

[vagrant magnet]

Already saw something of note, but can't post it yet.

[cursive sentinel]

[sand wasp]

Ride the Worm around in tunnels

[gray wind]

yessss friendly worm critters

[vagrant magnet]

Given the hummingbird, I imagine wildlife somehow got affected to be massive.

[sand wasp]

I hope there about a million different creatures to ride (ok, not that many but you get it)

[vagrant magnet]

inb4 we somehow get a Chihuahua mount.

[rapid verge]

Oooo one thing I havnt thought about is armour wonder if we will be able to craft or earn improved gear

[gray wind]

I hope we can pet them <33

[vagrant magnet]

My assumption is most will be crafted based on materials and inevitably crafting stations you have.

[sand wasp]

Yessss

[vagrant magnet]

Likely starting with basic cloth or straw clothing, then leather, and then go from there.

Essentially assume people will start off looking like Flintstones-era cavemen and will take time to look more properly dressed.

[rapid verge]

[junior sigil]

i want big metal armor for bunny girl and big freaking sword >:3

[vagrant magnet]

Game will likely have tutorials are least for how to move/look around, gather resources, make clothing/gear, make tools, your first weapon and how to fight, and even how to make basic shelter.

[dense lagoon]

Found the ARK player

[vagrant magnet]

And then after that, gl ur on your own.

[modest dawn]

there's a twitter/tiktok account that says if you can pet animals in games - "canyoupetthedog"

[vagrant magnet]

Also I'm a former Conan Exile player, so I'm basing things on what I've experienced there and would love to see happen here.

[tight elbow]

Found the ARK Conan: Exiles player

[sand wasp]

I'm a Bunny, you're a Fox

[vagrant magnet]

And for me, the big one is handling resources. Or more-so, if building things will require reasonable material costs, or cost so much of each thing you either have to grind endlessly or need a team of 20 people to make something.

[junior sigil]

:) thats fair

[vagrant magnet]

inb4 races have weight limits, so smaller/lighter races get leather armor at best and the huge bois like Bears/ect. get the heavy plate armor.

[modest dawn]

oh yeah they curate a list of games on steam too

(games where you can pet things)

[vagrant magnet]

And even if not, people will gravitate towards certain races for certain playstyles because conditioned to do so.

[modest dawn]

lol

[rapid verge]

Cool if races had different pros and cons to each other like stat boosts

[vagrant magnet]

Yeah, larger races being able to wear heavy armor and hit harder, smaller races being better fit for stealth or for daggers/ect., and so on.

So inevitably people just go to certain races for X job or Y tasks.

But still, I'm just so ready for when more info finally gets shown later on.

[mossy patio]

bunnies!!

[low cloud]

Hmm

[vagrant magnet]

Yup, buns, and so many other races.

Or as someone I know said it, "This game feels like if Redwall and The Secret of NIHM fused into a new universe".

At the least, there'll be no lacking in options for races to play as.

[soft salmon]

So hyped

[vagrant magnet]

I'm def. ready for it when it comes out.

Especially with so much land to actually explore and set up a base/village/ect. in.

Just a matter of if it actually is planet earth-sized, close to it, or as Sean himself said "bigger than Earth itself".

Becuse with nearly 197 million square miles, or about 316,879,833.6 square KM in size, that is a lot of space to work with.

To put that into context, if you had every last one of Minecraft's 163.67 million total registered users spawn in this game, each player could have at least nearly 2 kilometers of space, or about over a mile-sized area of land to do whatever they want without worry.

Definitely more than enough space for any player to make a base/home, farm and so on in and not even notice your neighbors.

[copper coral]

2 km^2 is smaller than you think, especially if you have dragons flying at those speeds.

[vagrant magnet]

Trailer by now is at 3.7 million views.

Also since can finally post images, can post this to point out the sign here and also bun from the trailer.

Given the way it's written, odds are races have their own written language, but you can figure out what it says with a bit of effort/guesswork/ect.

[amber token]

||Home ||:)

[solar dove]

I'm so excited about this!

[sand wasp]

Yooooooo

!LNFLink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/FCvnVHCXES

[sand wasp]

@cursive sentinel ^

[neon whale]

Woot!

[uneven parcel]

Wouldn't it be just all the way to the right?

Anyways. Do we know if Light No Fire will have offline singleplayer options?

[neon whale]

the game is single player.

[uneven parcel]

Not sure I follow. I mean Light No Fire.

[neon whale]

Yes. It is single player with online co-op. It's not a MMO, at least from the official sources so far.

Similar to NMS.

[uneven parcel]

What about "Multiplayer Earth"? These words scared me.

[neon whale]

It has multiplayer line NMS has.

[uneven parcel]

So I can officially just play it by myself with no Internet connection?

And there's stuff to do, NPC settlements and such?

[neon whale]

From their website
A Multiplayer Earth
Carve a life together. Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persistent buildings and communities, or strike out alone to discover the world for others.

[neon whale]

We don't have a lot of details yet, just a single trailer and a website with some promotional text.

Currently we can't be sure what the game has to offer, except what we can make out of the information we have

[uneven parcel]

I see. Thought they said something more. Thanks.

[uneven parcel]

This doesn't sound like singleplayer to me, it's still "for others".

So might require Internet connection, like Genshin Impact.

I see, thank you.

[neon whale]

we do the same in NMS, find stuff, discover stuff, upload those discoveries for "others" to come and visit.

Instead of an entire universe with 255 galaxies LNF is on a single planet.

No major change.

[void palm]

As I see it it’s like nms, multiplayer hubs but mostly single player, and the ability to team up with others

[uneven parcel]

I haven't played NMS 😅

[neon whale]

Ooh! i see.

Hmm! in that case it's going to be a peer-to-peer connection with grouping up to 32 players for a PC host.

We will have offline single player mode.

this is what i am speculating based on my experiences with NMS

and Hello Games in general

[uneven parcel]

Thank you for your time and the answers.

[neon whale]

🙂

Join the LNS discord server if you feel like, we are discussing stuff there in details.

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/FCvnVHCXES

[uneven parcel]

Oh, I was looking for an official Hello Games Discord. Only found this one.

[void palm]

Light No Server

[neon whale]

Soon 🙂

[strong bison]

Looks great and added to my wishlist 😄

[sand wasp]

We are as official as it gets - and the same will apply for the LNF discord server we have made

!officialdiscord

[split meteor]

to view, enable Link Preview

The game's developer HelloGames.org links to our Discord, officially acknowledging it as the No Man's Sky Discord (https://discord.gg/nomanssky). However, the server is 100% run by community volunteers...

[sand wasp]

They have neither the time, nor resources to run their own discord for their games

[copper coral]

A little separation between devs and discord is good, especially if it makes either more accountable.

[coarse pine]

Oh I see we have a channel now, did I miss anything since it was thread?

[strong cliff]

@coarse pine

[coarse pine]

Cheers

[cinder notch]

why dids the logo look the same as nms

[neon whale]

@empty rune come over to the other server.

[empty rune]

Woah, new place

I have only heard of it’s existence

[neon whale]

Hehehe!

[lapis geode]

is it me or do the y look the same?

talking about the whatever thay are called

[strong cliff]

Whatever they are called?

How dare you insult ATLAS so.

The other symbol is currently unamed.

[opaque citrus]

Not really the same

[strong cliff]

Well.

In the LNF lore anyway.

Unless you know something I do not?

[strong cliff]

Yeah lol.

They have a similar geometric, colour, and light quality, but they're not the same.

[opaque citrus]

No lore yet to confirm or deny soo

[strong cliff]

And I still like ATLAS more as far as I'm aware.

[strong cliff]

Exactly.

But before I thought you were saying "not really" to what I said first, then you edited the message.

[copper coral]

Look at this, you can see there are pieces falling off the Atlas. This is part of the Echoes update poster.

[strong cliff]

Majestic Rhombic Octohedron.

[lapis geode]

the Earth looks as big as the Planets we have in the Game my headcannon is that this Game is set in NMS Universe the reason we never saw the Milky Way ( our Sol System) is because it was left for this and its in a Medevil Setting(from the looks of it) it has that familiar feeling to NMS YES i know its the same engine and all but still it just feels like we are still in NMS

[dusk iron]

it's one planet the same for everyone, or planet seed generated from new game creation ?

[sand wasp]

One planet for all

[remote glacier]

I'm wondering what the height limit is

Since it's in the NMS engine it's probably an actual round planet

[sand wasp]

Damn high, whatever it is

[remote glacier]

I don't wanna get too hyped but skydiving could be fun to do lol

Especially if the atmosphere goes higher than in NMS

Stopping the fall is an issue to solve when the game launches 😂

[cursive sentinel]

Jump no, worry later

[somber crow]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6M6WUVfoh3BhBGNCweKjEC?si=-Hy9SteSQy63QOwQ0Ui36g

Music from the trailer ^

[ember hornet]

Epic game

[sand wasp]

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/FCvnVHCXES

[rustic monolith]

Is this by Hello Games?

[tropic marsh]

yes but no

by singular gleam

but the game itself is made by hello games

[tropic marsh]

you cant travel to space so probably very high

[worn pivot]

hello everyone

[brittle brook]

lol you get high enough and it just switches to NMS

[sand wasp]

Lol

[somber crow]

I asked chatGPT what it thinks the theme of the game will be… some interesting theories, all seeming to revolve around cooperative, peaceful gameplay and not conflict or destruction, as the title implies.

https://chat.openai.com/share/b49bf5ab-e0ac-497c-806d-850105133c5d

[rustic monolith]

Is there a reason I cant react to peoples comments (say with a heart or 100 or whatever?) - is it a rank thing?

[void palm]

Need level 5

!familiarrole

Nvm

I can’t type

[slate jungle]

!familiarrole

bot not working lol

[sand wasp]

Should be going now, please run that again

[slate jungle]

!familiarrole

[split meteor]

to view, enable Link Preview

• 🔓 Unlock uploads, link embeds, reactions, and #memes🤡 with <@&337090468900765706> role (Xp Level 5).
• Chat to gain Xp (except #bot-spam where you run commands). Don't spam, there's a cooldown. Run !Xp to check level & !RoleHelp for more info.
• 📸 #nms-media » any NMS capture (add text for Xp). Other channels for screenshots? Run !ImageHelp

[slate jungle]

@rustic monolith

[sand wasp]

Ok good, thank you

[void vine]

i wonder if light no fire will also have VR support

[tropic marsh]

im sure they will have it soon

[devout tusk]

So, you can play LNF solo (with net connection) and meet people randomly?

Like in NMS

Or we will have only parties/some Anomaly-like hub

[mellow yarrow]

Way to early to say anything, we only got 1 trailer so far so more will be reveled once more content drops

[swift parrot]

What is the game about?

[dusk iron]

apart nexus and expedition, never meet someone in the game

[slate jungle]

Trailer is in the pins in this channel

[swift parrot]

thanks

[slate jungle]

It should be, multiplayer was prominently mentioned in the trailer and talk.

[strong nacelle]

Hello, does anyone know when the rough estimated release date is?

[dense lagoon]

Nope

Nothing published

[strong nacelle]

It looks like it uses the same engine as No Man's Sky right? I wonder how far along in development they are, given how fleshed out the trailer looked in terms of in game footage.

[dense lagoon]

Looks like it, pretty early we think

If you look closely there are things like copy and pasted trees

[slate jungle]

5 years according to Sean

[strong nacelle]

Dang, that's a long time, but I would like a complete release over a incomplete release I guess, thanks. Also did he say it in some press release or something or through the grapevine?

[manic beacon]

5 years is fairly standard for game development nowadays, I'd say.

[timid hull]

You can’t really put a time limit on development like that

It’s not like they just load in all the assets, click build and wait

[slate jungle]

I still can't get over how small the team is
Dedication and work ethic

[dense lagoon]

Imagine, you probably only have 11 games left in you

[night meteor]

How big is HG these days?

I know around NEXT/some of the biggest updates they were over 20. Are they still somewhere around there?

[dense lagoon]

a little bigger - they said they had 12 people working on LNF?

plus outsourced QA, marketing etc

[solid sluice]

#1182531870613831740 message

[spark robin]

"Cmon baby Light NO Fire" trailer with The Doors would have been funny

[sand wasp]

Still possible

[fair pivot]

uh oh, i joined the LNF server (i use discord on my phone in the web version) and it shows that “what would you like to do in this community” thing, and when that shows up, because discord web for mobile is so broken, it basically softlocks me until i exit the page (i cant click continue or anything as its just too far off to the right of the phone screen)

[sand wasp]

Friggin mobile app update

[fair pivot]

thats the problem, im not even using the app discord web for mobile just sucks
cant tap on LNF server without getting softlocked

[sand wasp]

I wish I had something that could help..

[sand wasp]

Try making the browsers zoom less than 100% in that window

[strong cliff]

I kept getting confused with the thread and this channel.

[fair pivot]

just figured out how to do this, thanks for the suggestion! It worked

[sand wasp]

Sweet!

[heavy vortex]

PVP / PVE / Both, which one do you prefer? Please vote.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LightNoFireHelloGames/s/juw1nd81fG

[tame lily]

Do we know the platforms? I assume PS5, XSX/S, and Steam

[wide pawn]

Hopefully just pve. After NMS’s pvp, no thanks. Unless they have a whole separate mode for it or do it right

NMS only had pvp cuz people complained there wasn’t any, and it was bad when we got it cuz it was just thrown in. This way however if they start working on pvp mechanics early, at least it could be good

[kind hinge]

hopefully pvp is turned off automatically in this game lol

I hope they learned from Starfield and nms about repeating poi, i don’t wanna fight skeletons in same procgen dungeon 20 times lol

Hopefully small enough changes to each thing you don’t feel like your seeing the same exact structure 100 times

[wide pawn]

Yea proc gen can only be as good as all the variations it’s fed. If it only has 7 variations, no matter how much proc gen your gonna get the overlapping feeling. So I agree. More the merrier

[kind hinge]

One of many reasons I feel nms needs more planet variations badly, it becomes pretty repetitive Seeing same plants all the time

Over stuff like new ships

[heavy vortex]

Here is a joke. "Every day I rode the dragon around the valley near the territory, and everything was so familiar that it seemed unchanged. Until one day, I saw a machine with a red and white tail on fire on the ground, and next to it, a man dressed in red, wearing a helmet."

[tame lily]

i like the idea of optional PVP, it could lead to something like nations being created by players within the world

[split meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/NMSCord/status/1734063192240799903

[scarlet ore]

thinking about how great it would be when this game finally comes out years later and I get to chop wood make a camp explore the world ride a dragon and contemplate my existence for being hyper focused on survivalcraft games all my life

[quartz torrent]

do you guys think we gonna see the tech used in light no fire also in nms?

[scarlet ore]

Looks more like the opposite

They're using their NMS tech in LNF and making it more visually cohesive

As with NMS they changed the art style and slowly working on it

[wispy lance]

I hope they'll have a lizard race between all the mammal races
I'll settle on a tropical isand and establish Lemuria the reptiloid continent

Or if skeletons are available I'll make an arctic ziggurat

[quartz torrent]

i mean sean said something about rivers but we dont have rivers in nms, thats what i meant about tech 😄

[frail jetty]

There will likely be similarities

[quartz torrent]

yeah i know, i just hope it will be more advanced and some of the generation tech will be used in nms to

[frail jetty]

at least fix the water HG for NMS, it's about damn time 😄

[quartz torrent]

true 😄

[wispy lance]

I'd like to be able to build on the water without swimming 3 meters above the water

[wispy lance]

Hopefully this game will have proper boats
Or at least water mounts that are better than NMS's nautiloid
Least favorite vehicle

[timber dust]

The thing here is, NMS was built on a foundation which was rushed under release deadline set by Sony.

With LNF they've had all the time and skills learned from NMS development. No release pressure. Just show the game once they feel confident enough in it

That makes me really hopeful for the launch success of this game

[cinder notch]

I’m still salty about ship customization

[scarlet ore]

I really hope they relook their planet proc gen, the trailer is clearly using their current planet proc gen

I have hope because in one part of the trailer you get a quick glimpse of a river and different levels of water

[void palm]

I think it looks amazing as it is now

[scarlet ore]

it genuinely looked like NMS to me right down to the exact style of those random mounds generation

or you know what maybe I'm misplacing my interest, proc gen tweaking aside they should focus a lot more on dungeons (which they anyway have to if they're making a fantasy survivalcraft) especially underground

[void palm]

Of course it’s gonna be very similar

[scarlet ore]

some awesome underground maze which barely peeks out of the ground, so you dig up the entrance and go in to explore

the derelict freighter tech at full force

[scarlet ore]

seems like its the exact same water tech in the trailer

real exciting part is that this is how the game looks like right now as an early concept, the final release and subsequent updates will be phenomenal

[cerulean hemlock]

the only thing i hope for (and i hope its done for no man sky too) if we can build objects or houses or etc and there ANY way to terraform the area PLEASE devs make it so the land stays the way ive terraformed it the amount of hours ive spent in no man sky building a base only to save and finish playing for the day then take 1-3 hours remove all the land again that's covered 50% of my base because the terrain mostly reverted back to how it was!

[fluid yoke]

They showed off boats in the trailer so I’m assuming it will

[cinder notch]

what if it gets cold though

[jaunty fractal]

no light fire

[cinder notch]

should rename to Freeze To Death

[jaunty fractal]

yes

[fluid yoke]

I don’t think terraforming will be in the game

[cinder notch]

or ship customization

[dense lagoon]

Or sentinels

[neon whale]

There's definitely deforestation.

[tawny junco]

i have a feeling terraforming will not be in the game too
just seems like too much for everyone being on one planet

obv deforestation is a thing cuz..how else are you gonna build things

[crisp vault]

I just saw an ad for the Light No Fire game
It’s now on my steam wishlist

Fingers crossed that it’s playable on Mac too 🤞
||please be on Mac too I wanna ride a dragon||

Also there are definitely some No Mans Sky vibes lol, but it looks fun!

[tawny junco]

i genuinely wanna know if the two are connected somehow lore-wise

[sand wasp]

Bet you can

We got wooden boats

[tawny junco]

that would be cool

[remote glacier]

Yeah I feel like me might at most be able to flatten terrain

Or they add dynamic foundations that stick into the ground

[crisp vault]

It sure looks like it, tbh

[remote glacier]

I can definitely see minerals etc coming from rocks and stuff

[crisp vault]

I just wanna ride a dragon

That’s my only goal lol

[remote glacier]

I had a theory I put in the new server, I'll find it quickly

[wispy lance]

I wanna make a dragon harbor in the sky

[tawny junco]

definitely

or...they just like that style a lot

lol

[crisp vault]

I had to leave behind one of the only dragon games I could play because it became too much of a money-laundering scam for kids, so I haven’t had that thrill of riding a dragon in a while

[tawny junco]

but nah it seems to be connected somehow

[remote glacier]

Okay so I have a tinfoil hat theory about how NMS and LNF are connected.

So we know Korvax Prime was capable of simulation right? The new story arc has been all about its re emergence as an intelligence in the universe. I have a feeling that the end of this 3 part story will culminate with the full emergence of the void mother, and with it the simulation of a new world, that being the world of LNF.

^ here it is

It just seems to be too convenient that this is all getting revealed during the current story

[tawny junco]

Century?

[tawny junco]

oh, interesting

[crisp vault]

No, School of Dragons
(HTTYD game, but the devs never updated the graphics or glitches and just kept adding on things you had to pay for to play)

[tawny junco]

ahh yeah i remember that game

from a while ago actually

try out Century if you haven't

free to play

but it's JUST fighting

[crisp vault]

I can totally see this guy being connected to the monoliths and portals

[tawny junco]

that's the only downside really

[tawny junco]

yeah as soon as i saw this, i thought NMS

[crisp vault]

I suck at PvP; I had a feeling once and Albion Online taught me that as a fact lol

[remote glacier]

Yeah all the artifacts have a very NMS feel

Especially that guy

[crisp vault]

I’m rewatching the video in steam AND I SEE RABBIT PEOPLE WHAT

[remote glacier]

Did you see the gliders you can use?

[crisp vault]

I did

So this game is an MMORPG, I’m guessing?

[remote glacier]

It's probably the same as NMS

[crisp vault]

Like you can be playing all by yourself and all of a sudden meet someone random on your travels

[remote glacier]

Can be single player, but you can also meet people etc

Some community features and stuff

Probably not a full MMO though

[crisp vault]

Probably

Honestly I don’t mind how HG has structured the multiplayer in NMS, like you can play alone, but there’s a hub where you can meet people and go to places that other people tend to gather

Could it be better? Probably. Can I think of how it can be better? Nope lol

[remote glacier]

Yeah I like how it's designed to work just as well in single player

[fluid yoke]

That’s not terrain manipulation

[neon whale]

I never said anything about terrain manipulation though. XD

[fluid yoke]

I’m not sure who was talking about it but that’s what I was talking about so it was safe for me to assume you were talking about the same thing

[cinder notch]

boat customization when

[sand wasp]

Launch!

[tawny junco]

yeah it feels really good too

hopefully those guys will make an actual dragon game

like, story

[wise gate]

As in it launched today? :o

Am confuse

But excite

[sand wasp]

Nah, it hasn't launched yet- sry for the confusion

[cinder notch]

launch when 😛

[wise gate]

I wasn't expecting it to so early lol

(But then, mario wonder released WAY sooner than i expected)

[tardy marsh]

tomorrow would be good 😄

[tropic marsh]

can we launch it a little bit later cause i still have to buy a gpu...

[crisp vault]

I looked at steam and the launch date hasn’t been announced, nor has the platform it will be compatible for

[sand wasp]

On launch day ofc

[tropic marsh]

including system requirements

[tardy marsh]

From what I see in the vid, they are quite far up in development. I don't expect a release too far away.
Heck, I'd buy and play it in the state as in the vid, patiently waiting for updates.
Been a while since I got insta hyped for a game.

[strong pagoda]

With the pace they set with nms, we probably won't wait too long for first updates

[worn pivot]

hops game come out 2024 would be great

[tropic marsh]

yes

it WILL come out in 2024

[worn pivot]

we most have confirmed oin steam page hehe

=9

[worn pivot]

❤️

[heavy vortex]

similar. lol

[crisp vault]

Very much so lol
Plus the head shape is kinda similar to the head model of some robotic animals

[lilac tartan]

damn this game looks awesome, lets just hope it wont get boring and the same soon.

also, couldnt unsee the simmilarities of some stuff to nms, maybye a prequel, or a paralel world?

[sterile eagle]

I think it would be cool if it was in the same universe, just in another random galaxy outside of like atlas control.

Also, the game looks like it has borrowed a lot of the framework from no man’s sky.

[heavy vortex]

NMS and NMS: Survival Evolved

lol

My favorite thing before was riding my flying dragon in ARK: Survival Evolved

[mystic pine]

Hurray dedicated channel

I want opinions! YouTube is getting flooded by people calling light no fire a " massive survival game" which I personally feel is a bad batch of misdirection. There hasn't been a confirmation of the genre, and just going off of NMS I don't actually expect survival mechanics.

Just based on the trailer I suspect more of an open world fantasy simulator lite + rpg I don't really expect hunger/thrist/dangerous monsters/ deadly weather ect. Survival is all but guaranteed. But what do you think?

[tame lily]

It seems very similar to NMS but on a big planet with a lot of diversity

[mystic pine]

Precisely

[tame lily]

If its like NMS, the survival aspect will be highly customizable and competition between players will be a very minor part of the game
Basically its a single player game with a shared world i think
But i could be completely wrong

[mystic pine]

But I wouldn't call NMS a survival game, by any stretch of the word. Even on Hard Permadeth. The few mechanics like Oxygen and Hazard just feel like baseline simulation. And can be mitigated by just staying in space.

[tame lily]

Yeah
Im excited for this game cuz it can truly be the next step for the NMS formula
Bring it down to a smaller, but still massive scale, increasing the diversity of areas, allowing for the players to make our own world and stuff

Basically minecraft but you're forced to be on the same server as everyone else lol

Like imagine there starts to be whole nations created entirely by players, leading to trade and war and stuff, this idea has so much potential

[spring dock]

i'll probably take on a sort of "nomad-knight" playstyle (assuming the game will have that)

i'll go around just helping folks out and killing bad guys

also HOLY FUCK

[tame lily]

I wonder if we will be able to create multiple characters or if that will break the game a little bit

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/lightnofire

[mystic pine]

I'd be surprised if it didn't have multiple save files, but maybe No man's sky has simply spoiled me too much.

[final plinth]

people gon made a server before the release date even dropped

[lofty mulch]

I mean, better to have the folks that manage this and the Glyph Exchange servers than someone without the experience.
Both of those servers have grown a ton in the last few years especially.

[uncut stream]

What's going on in here? I was looking for the anti marijuana server

[final plinth]

what

[stiff kernel]

so... this is the yes woman's land?

[cinder notch]

that trailer track HAS to be alt-j

[foggy geyser]

Light Every Fire!!!

🔥🔥

[sharp brook]

when do yall think LNF is coming out

[lunar bear]

Dunno, but it looks very nice

[fierce kayak]

probably soon™️

[void palm]

Latter half of 2024

[sharp brook]

same

im thinking a similar date to NMS

[opaque citrus]

9.08.2026 imo

[strong pagoda]

Thats a bold guess

[opaque citrus]

Its 10th nms anniversary release date.

[strong pagoda]

I think itll come out nov-dec 2024

[wide pawn]

It’s like Hello games is speaking to me :p

[timber dust]

Anyone notice how they don't really show any scenes at nighttime?

Light No Fire! Symbolism? 🤔

Also when the statue awakes, the whisps appear

[wintry heath]

Is there an official discord for Light No Fire?

[cursive sentinel]

Yes, scroll up a bit, theres the invite

[prisma ginkgo]

It's also under the pinned comments

[lilac tartan]

The player and skeleton movement looks a tad wonky, i also hope it will have a more fleshed-out combat system than nms.

[lavish stone]

I see what you did there. LOL

[elder path]

I think the few combat animations that were shown were promising

[snow shale]

they evolved into a sentient species

[heavy vortex]

As I said on reddit, "beat it and learn an alien word". lol

[wide pawn]

What if there really is no fire in light no fire

[snow shale]

😅

[heavy vortex]

[wide pawn]

Yogi bear already tried to make this game but called it “no fires man”

It didn’t catch on

Wait, that’s Smokey the bear

[worn pivot]

have light no fire offiicial discord server

[split meteor]

@manic beacon

Unapproved Discord invite

[manic beacon]

Lol

[manic beacon]

Here @worn pivot

[worn pivot]

ty 🙂

[neon whale]

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[wide pawn]

Lol this is worse than an embed fail 😂

[heady steeple]

i bet this game will br connected to nms

[opaque citrus]

Will have some references or easter eggs at least.

[fierce kayak]

anotherdimension

[patent furnace]

We should update that to use the easier to remember custom url @sand wasp

[fierce kayak]

the multi-biome support makes me more excited about exploration in this game. It's like they're tackling something Bethesda sort of failed to do with their planets, and at an earth-like scale.

will be interesting to see what people do with mods, making multi-biome planet universes (if they allow people to do this)

[icy sluice]

Joined 🙂

[patent furnace]

@manic beacon this should also be fixed now Guntie doing no blockies of shame for that server...smh

ty for sharing it

[manic beacon]

Ty

[faint geyser]

LNF gonna have a crossover with NMS some day maybe

[solid sluice]

yo I got one too lol

[sharp brook]

personally im thinking its further along than we think so im thinking june-july 2024 for all the muricans not having alot to do

[foggy geyser]

Light Every Fire

[fierce kayak]

that would be really neat if the game had an overarching community goal to find every fire to light across the whole planet

Rebel against the title of the game

OR

to make more sense of it, maybe there are a multitude of fires that have been lit that are EVIL and must be put out by the community

[modest patrol]

The bunnies are definitely psychopaths

[sand wasp]

Ty

[cursive sentinel]

Gleam be like wow what a compliment

[sand wasp]

[sterile eagle]

I really hope it’s easy to like “fast travel” there are dragons, but imagine having to find one little camp when you have the whole world to search. Or maybe there will be coordinates you can follow.

Also I hope you can pick where you spawn so that you can start by friends.

[cursive sentinel]

Everyone with the dragons Fasttravel I would agree, but picking your spawn is asking for too much methinks

Maybe there will be central points everyone can teleport to

[remote glacier]

I feel like it might work the same as NMS, but with castles etc instead of stations maybe

Each with a portal you can use

[sturdy ginkgo]

I hope there is not a creative mode and normal mode that can influence the same economy.

[short beacon]

Sooooo Yea I mean he has a point

[short beacon]

I want to have a crew of All Dragons, we will take to the sky's and Take the 7 kingdoms

[wispy lance]

People on the LNF server already talked about making a dragon rider guild

[remote glacier]

I'd imagine it's not rediculously far off

I've been getting ads on YouTube too

[short beacon]

Same even my wife who doesn't even play games is getting them in her feed

[short beacon]

I'ma be joining that

[remote glacier]

I'm wondering if we could get a release date alongside an NMS update next year

Like the first feature one

[short beacon]

I'm not counting it out given how Hard the advertisement for.it has been going and how active Sean Murray has been on X over this game

[remote glacier]

Maybe idk. It feels a little late in the year to release something like that. It's the holidays and the devs will be off

So that makes stuff like hotfixes hard

[short beacon]

Could be a Q1 2024 release, of they release it when they get off of holiday break, that would make sense, since the team will be freshly rested an drowsy to hit those big fixes if needed

Could be a Q1 2024 release, of they release it when they get off of holiday break, that would make sense, since the team will be freshly rested an drowsy to hit those big fixes if needed to

[remote glacier]

Tbf I could see that. I don't want to get my hopes up lol

I'm still thinking summer but everything is possible

[short beacon]

Yea But the ad campaign feels so Aggressive for a Summer reelass game, May e Spring. At the latest. But the game doesn't come off as Soke Microtransactions heavy game, so there isn't a need to drop it around times when people are spending a lot, not to mention summer is when more people are out and about. So Lat January to spring time would be the perfect time to drop the game on us. People are relatively still at home alot.

Part of me thinks around Easter time only cus of the rabbits in game and the vibrant colors lol

[remote glacier]

Yeah it is a bit aggressive. I can't tell if that's because of how much I've been reading about it though lol

[short beacon]

Im thinking Sometime in January they drop the Update for NMS along with a more in debt trailer possibly going into the Chara tee customization a bit more, and a release date.

And I'm assuming the next trailer would delve into char aged customization because it doesn't over share the story but gives us a lot of detail to speculate around

I'm really hoping we can customize pretty good like hair and stuff cus I want to make a Targaryean looking character

[short beacon]

I wonder how customizable our dragons will be, I do t see it resembling ship hunting alit though given it's only 1 planet

[remote glacier]

I feel like the different mount species will be like ship classes, with different breeds being procedural

[short beacon]

Perhaps, hey has your chat in here been a tiny weird mine is showing me say the same thing twice

[sand wasp]

Discord update is weird

That's what the spam filter triggered on you for - same message sent multiple times. It's happened quite a few times the last week or so

[upbeat igloo]

almost there

[short beacon]

Dang well at least I know it's an actually noted problem when I open the app it's been struggling to load stuff too

[void vine]

i hope the world will be big enough to where you can go somewhere and it isn't griefed to hell

[sterile eagle]

Will you guys be playing 3rd or 1st person for Light no Fire.

Personally, I will be playing 3rd.

[slate jungle]

I suspect it will have a pvp toggle like NMS

and it's supposed to be bigger than irl Earth

[slate jungle]

same

[sharp brook]

Chat keep in mind that if someone like asmongold plays it, doesn't care for it, and tells chat, it'll get loads of negative reviews

[void vine]

minecraft 2

[sturdy ginkgo]

I'm glad to see "single player" as an option, according to steam description.
I plan to play multi player but in the event satellites or basic webernets go down I like that I don't require internet connection.

Pretty hyped.

My main hope is that the economy can't be affected by players who have zero cost or dupe and all that. I mean more power to them I will probably start creation mode for NMS in a few months, but it's kind of absurd I can randomly throw a player a bil or 2 and not think twice about it

Incase someone hasn't seen the official trailer
https://youtu.be/EurwCUKajdc?feature=shared

[strange sedge]

This is so awesome, because from NMS we already know the hello games team knows how to do large-scale maps right
Every time i land on a planet I think "This planet is literally the size of a MMO of it's own"
And here we are
I will be dedicating myself to the conspiracy theory that this is set on a planet of nms

[hexed basalt]

bro

theyre blocking people from watching yt links on third party apps now

GOOFY

[patent furnace]

We have the trailer YouTube video from Hello Games pinned. And that isn't blocked to watch within embeds here.
https://youtu.be/jKQem4Z6ioQ

We have other helpful links in the pins.

[wispy lance]

I sometimes gave people some treasures or storage upgrades i didn't need
Or a full stack of gold i got from a farm I found online

[white pivot]

This game looks properly Amazing

No idea when it's coming out but imma be trying to get it day 1

[sharp brook]

Man I wonder who's making the soundtrack

I hope they do it similar to NMS where it's like 9-10 songs broken down into their individual parts and placed into an algorithm

[short beacon]

Imagines it’s c418 lol

[sharp brook]

Would be dope

[short beacon]

Just let me dream lol

[short beacon]

NMS music is something I wish Starfeild had honestly

[sand wasp]

@last badge come share here too

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[fierce kayak]

sooneth

[last badge]

Ooh ! nice didn't see there was a discord yet !

[sterile eagle]

Dude. It’s totally gonna come out on that day.

[short beacon]

You know what, I til confirmed otherwise I'm just going to go with this bring the release date lol

[sharp brook]

Im totally thinking it'll come out by the middle of next year

either that or for their anniversary theyll drop a longer gameplay trailer

im also excited to sail boats

[sharp brook]

https://youtu.be/doeFgMBpito?si=qR9gPbQCWlmAs0__

I agree that its coming out sooner than we think

Cuz most triple A games don't start advertisements until a month or two before launch

[jade haven]

is there an offical discord for LNF?

[sand wasp]

HG doesn't run any discord or subreddits, this is as close as you will get to official:

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[jade haven]

oh really? didnt know that. thanks for the link

[sand wasp]

No problem

[patent furnace]

!OfficialDiscord

[split meteor]

to view, enable Link Preview

The game's developer HelloGames.org links to our Discord, officially acknowledging it as the No Man's Sky Discord (https://discord.gg/nomanssky). However, the server is 100% run by community volunteers...

[patent furnace]

To add to Gleam's comment

[manic beacon]

[stone brook]

btw how the new darktide update?

[sand wasp]

[tardy marsh]

So much advertising for LNF on several social media platforms. I have a feeling it'll launch soon.

[sharp brook]

Same

[tardy marsh]

I really hope it'll be released on console straight away too.

[crisp vault]

I just hope it’s not crazy expensive; I got NMS while it was on sale in steam

[opaque citrus]

16 is more nms number. So would expect nms related things. The fact that there is no release date, pc specs reqirements or even confirmed platforms on official LNF page suggest that release is good few years away.

[neat bear]

Already been going 5 years

I'm thinking summer

[opaque citrus]

And? It was develpoed by small team inside HG. Let them cook.

[neat bear]

Nobody wants to work on something for that long without releasing it

That's how Duke Nukem got fucked up

Small team doesn't equate to longer time

[opaque citrus]

Tell that to nms release

Could take another 3 years of development

[opaque citrus]

2013 first trailer- 2016 release.

[tardy marsh]

Another few years waiting would really disappoint people anticipating this game, being bombed by advertising on social media and has actual multiplayer gameplay footage.
Sean has a Light No Fire twitter account up already. It'll not be a few years waiting for release. More like a few weeks.

[opaque citrus]

And yet we dont know even release platforms.

Pepole are getting hyped to much again.

[tardy marsh]

It will release on most common platforms. Consoles are easier to develop for, because you don't have to keep up with all sorts of different hardware support.
Sean would be crazy to not release it on consoles. Steam already has a placeholder + wishlist button.
The devs had 5 years work on it already and now work with an engine they know inside out. They didn't have that experience when working on NMS.
They are close to the finished release.

[unreal flame]

i highly doubt the game is going to release anytime earlier than the very end of 2024

most likely mid 2025

or later

actually it is an unusual quantity of ads

maybe mid 2024

also given how much hello games seem to like args/deep lore and the strong similarity of the light no fire logo thing to Atlas I expect it'll probably be tied to NMS lore somehow

probably won't be a major story focus though

[potent holly]

Duke forever was an interesting read. What I remember the owner was on the downward spin of redoing the game when new game engines released. They never finished on time due to the direction to get the new engine and rebuilt it over and over. Seems there was no forced direction to stay on track.

[empty bloom]

I'm feeling pretty excited for this game

Pretty much anything that let's me ride cool animals is gonna be a game I like, lol

[empty bloom]

Something I'm hoping for is resources unique to different regions of the world. It would be neat to encourage player interaction through trade networks

[thorn acorn]

I feel like theres no doubt this will be a thing in game. I mean the trading although basic in NMS is pretty important for growing your funds and building things. I'm so stoked for this game, I want more info but am willing to wait. 😄

[uneven shuttle]

#bot-spam message

[waxen quartz]

Surprised Hello Games haven't increased their staff

With them taking on more ambitious task.

[dusk hatch]

Light No Fire is 🔥

[bold rampart]

Light No Fire looks cool, but I very much hope it doesn't suffer from the same problems No Mans Sky does which is having a boring world generation. A scenary and an area can look beautiful, but if there's nothing cool to explore it's nothing. I hope it's good, and I believe this game could be amazing, but it has to fix that type of issue for long term playing

[manic beacon]

No Man's Sky
Boring world generation
We haven't played the same game lol

[bold rampart]

Exploration wise

You start to see a similar pattern everywhere you go

For me as a player and a fan of Hello Games games, I desire more

[fierce kayak]

I agree with you in ways, though, when compared to AAA studios’ attempts to do something similar, this indie studio succeeds in many ways. (cough cough starfield)

I think light no fire is attempting things that will improve upon some of the weaknesses No man’s sky has with terrain generation and planetary exploration.

[bold rampart]

Not much to comment about the combat, it was barely shown. The combat in No Mans Sky is pretty basic, and I hope there are more enemies in this game. It’s barely a survival game if there’s no feeling of threat. I get it with No Mans Sky that you know it’s an exploration game. But this is a survival game, so I have high expectations that there is significant improvement and depth added in that aspect

If there’s decent combat elements, I’ll get me and my friends to play the game for sure

[fierce kayak]

the big crab guy lends evidence to improved combat

i’m most interested in exploration and good incentive to explore that forest rely on items as reward

NMS’s buried ruins is one of the least interesting, poorly designed part of its exploration. Hoping LNF takes these kinds of concepts to the next level

[bold rampart]

I just don’t find exploration without risk any fun

[fierce kayak]

suspense, danger and things that you don’t expect are very important for exploration games

risks are good.

[short beacon]

I can't wait to see some captain of the Steve's son more videos on this game... I love his intro music and the vibe

Not going to, I'ma be exploring the sky's with my dragon... Like.ima be trying to become the most skilled Dragon rider.

I saw a bow and arrow guy so if there is Character class builds I may go with an archer

[uneven shuttle]

Did the LNF discord crash?

[sand wasp]

Discord is having issues

[cursive cipher]

Yeah it’s weird

[dense lagoon]

Discord bought a whole subscription tbh

[graceful coral]

I AM SO HYPES

HYPED

I saw this on my steam discovery and i was like sure

Then i saw a trailer for it on youtube

The subtitles said

Sean

And i was like WAIT HOL UP

[short beacon]

I'm definitely going to be building a Dragon Pit and Targaryean dragon castle, I hope build parts allow for cool throne rooms

[graceful coral]

Do it!!!

[short beacon]

We will rule the 7 kingdoms.
I hoping with a huge group we can place a tone of castles açcross a whole area claim it as our kingdom and just fly out dragons. Around.

I really hope the dragons can breath fire and we can do air attacks on the the evil skeletons

[graceful coral]

Thatd be sick

[storm flame]

Will light no fire be an mmo?

[uneven shuttle]

No one knows a damn thing

[dense lagoon]

Except that

Single player with multiplayer features

Was in the press release

[opaque citrus]

So simliar to NMS

[tawny junco]

probably just like NMS multiplayer if I had to guess

[frozen sparrow]

Does that mean Ive been collecting this creatures baby heads for years? lol

[dense lagoon]

Worse

They grow under ground

You've been tearing the heads off them

[brittle brook]

lol ive been thinking of knowlege stones with that guy, completely forgot about vortex cubes lol

[strong nacelle]

Hey is this game going to have a full planet to explore? Will it be a bunch of nothing like in Starfield or are they developing reasons to go to different areas? Also will everyone have the same seed if it is a planet?

[visual stream]

from what we can speculate it is likely the same seed. From what was announced it is a full planet. This planet will be split into different biomes like our actual planet, so the incentive to go to different areas will be for resources only found in certain types of region/biome. Not much more that can be said about the game outside of this.

anything else would just be speculation. I speculate that other regions with have different things to be discovered, maybe different lore/culture specfic to region, but again that's just guess work.

plus, in comparison to starfield I could say that it is more focused, since it is just 1 planet not 1000; but this is an earth sized planet. Planets in starfield are limited within the radius of wherever you land. This is set to be a no boundaries planet the size of earth, but earth is big, and there is lots of empty nothing places on earth. This could be an issue with this game considering the size.

there could be miles of field and nothing else. But We just don't know anyhting else about this game outside of the traier, what is on the website, and what sean said before he revealed the trailer at the game awards.

[empty bloom]

I feel like it would be okay if there were miles of empty field with little else. Would be a great place to set up a base (provided we are getting base building)

At least in some places

Personally, I'm hoping for floating islands to build a cool dragon roost in the sky

[visual stream]

yeah lot's of space for people to build communties

[split meteor]

🔔 For those of you who are new, make sure to check the pins for LNF related links, including an invite to our Light No Fire Discord where you can hype the game with me
https://discord.gg/lightnofire

[low cloud]

[uneven shuttle]

Everyone going nuts over LNF and all I want right now is the new space stations and ships shown in the 10year video

[opaque citrus]

I just want undo button for building in nms and building ui moved from the center of the screen

[frozen sparrow]

ditto

[wide pawn]

I intentionally left the title of what i wanted in for ya's XD

[vestal aspen]

I really love the look of the game, its truly what I've wanted from a survival game for a very long time! I just hope we have options for other high fantasy races as well. I'm really hoping for elves, dwarves, orcs/half-orcs. I truly would love to see those races in the game!

[dense lagoon]

Nothing has been published that indicates it will be a survival game.

[fierce kayak]

no they misspelled that it’s actually surbibal

[dense lagoon]

I don't doubt it'll have survival elements, same as NMS, but nothing has been published that indicates it's going to be rust with goblins

[unique ruin]

I did see floating islands in the trailer

[normal oar]

I really hope there is some massive cross game work they are planning.

[tardy marsh]

I really hope LNF and NMS be 2 seperate games and never cross anywhere.

[fierce kayak]

who knows. I figure HG would want a break from sci-fi and focus on fantasy, but now this tweet makes me think new things...

[dense lagoon]

new tweet?

[novel python]

Hope they create a new discord for this game. Would love to have it linked in my gaming community so we instantly get the newest updates!

[fierce kayak]

random picture of a portal

[analog hill]

is there a posted price for LNF?

[analog hill]

#light-no-fire message There you go

there is no listed price

[novel python]

Oh dang, bye lol

[dense lagoon]

just an NMS screenshot isn't it? posts loads of them

can see a trading post in the background so it's not a blended NMS/LNF picture

[fierce kayak]

now that i think about it, yeah, the nms desert isn’t how portals appear in-game so it’s just a cool edit

[opaque citrus]

No price , no pc reqirements, no confirmed plaforms, no age rating, no release date.

We have only the trailer

[analog hill]

If it's $60 or more it's lost me not gonna lie

[fierce kayak]

at least we can have some confidence in their update cycle when paying that price

[dense lagoon]

it'll be the same price as NMS

source: I made it up, but I'm probably right

[fierce kayak]

my source: adamB

[dense lagoon]

LNF pricing confirmed by Zach

[tardy marsh]

I'd be more than fine with a €60 price tag. Would buy it at €70 too. If HG runs LNF like they do NMS, that is absolutely worth it.

[short beacon]

Nah they wouldn't do 70

$70 is too much because like then it wouldn't be accessible to as many people and it's more of a risk, plus it drives up expectations, and furthermore multi-player with a somewhat large group of friends would be a nightmare to get orchestrated.

[slate jungle]

$70 is pretty standard for consoles now, so I suspect LNF will be in that neighborhood

[short beacon]

Depends, I think HG regrets how NMS was marked as triple A.

Marketed

[analog hill]

ahaha fuck no. Considering LNF just looks like NMS with a medieval fantasy coat of paint right now there's no way I'm paying $70 for it.

[tepid bane]

Considering 70 will be the norm soon, no issue

What fascinates me is the storyline cross overs

I have a distinct feeling they will

[opaque citrus]

I think 70 is a good price for high chance for all free dlcs in the future.

And always can wait for sale. And i bet HG will keep same tactics so game will be on sale regularly.

[cinder notch]

a knight named Kzzt

[analog aurora]

https://youtu.be/5D_rjhdFWHE?si=4GYmrQ4Fy3XtSVwG

[plain reef]

agreed.

[tepid bane]

It definitely is quite interesting how the proc gen works. Plus how it will impact nms down the road.

Tech wise, a lot of it can carry over eventually.

The last i heard LNF was basically in conceptual developement up until 2 and a half years ago. Im curious how long it will take to be ready for release.

A year or two wouldnt surprise me

Really depends on how much code rework was needed though.

If they are similar enough it could be way way sooner

[foggy geyser]

Hey uhh lfg JOKE for LNF??

[analog aurora]

Is "light no fire" a hint at Shakespeare?.....

Macbeth, Act 1 Scene 4, line 331:

[Aside] The Prince of Cumberland! that is a step
On which I must fall down, or else o'erleap,
For in my way it lies. Stars, hide your fires;
Let not light see my black and deep desires:
The eye wink at the hand; yet let that be,
Which the eye fears, when it is done, to see.

[cold pendant]

Ahh you young people.... 😄

You'd of hated the 100+ people raids of old school mmos 😉

[short beacon]

No I'm just saying that $60 drove up the expectations for nms far beyond what was able to be made and as such its launch went accordingly. They would be wise not to make the same mistake as last time.

[foggy geyser]

Hah I laugh at that, I agree, but I laugh because you think the end is $70, when there has literally been a dev lead or studio CEO say basically (we should make our money off the game from how much the player earns enjoyment from it), which is I would atleast say worse than a subscription based game or a game that cost well over $70-$200

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/11/11/gta-6s-publisher-says-video-games-should-theoretically-be-priced-at-dollars-per-hour/?sh=6747465173f7

[slate jungle]

I don't think that's what drove expectations up tbh.
And if you account for inflation, gaming has given us more and more for our money as time went on.

Games in the mid 90s were $40-50

[wide pawn]

LOL the name

[slate jungle]

Lol, about time someone noticed
😂

[plain reef]

i like this theory.

[tepid bane]

Honestly, i think itll be a tie in with the undead and corruption being sentinels, out to end civilization and control it

hehe

[hardy fulcrum]

gib game

[unique ruin]

For real

[foggy geyser]

Oh right gifs aren’t many places

[short beacon]

light no fire mfs when i show then dark yes ice

[foggy geyser]

Light No Fire gamers when I light every fire!

this is fine..

[unique ruin]

No , bad, no fire

[foggy geyser]

Yes fire bene

[cursive sentinel]

[patent furnace]

Ooh I just realized Should exclude this channel from gif oppression

[unique ruin]

:0 YOU WILL??

Pinky promise?

[gray wind]

Reeeeeddds

give GIF

[foggy geyser]

:its fine:

[patent furnace]

Omg I forgot. Have to do it on laptop...

[patent furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/bam-close-laptop-im-done-done-finished-gif-11825162

[patent furnace]

[patent furnace]

[gray wind]

https://tenor.com/view/help-gif-7380459

[foggy geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-16757454

[wide pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-roadtrip-gif-10040513219376801667

[lunar field]

light no fire
fight no liar

[hardy fulcrum]

so instead of a hundred quintillion planets, theres only 1

AND its procedurally generated

This is suchh a step forward

[tepid wyvern]

fr

[reef dawn]

^ I'm wondering if there have been server improvements made - Light No Fire will require something special (But also super excited to see/play the game) 🐲🩻🗡️

[tepid wyvern]

is it gonna slow nms updates?

[kind hinge]

Probably, next year will be 8 year anniversary, most games don’t get updated that long after release, I imagine year 10 they’ll stop

[fallen cave]

We're making movements here people

[unique ruin]

Hope not

[waxen quartz]

I hope the procedural generation is good.

You can’t allows trust trailers

[uneven shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-flame-look-what-i-have-created-shout-gif-17812125

[tepid wyvern]

glad its not just a cash grab and they actually care cough cough sea of thieves devs

[orchid egret]

My brother is obsessed over sea of thieves

I dont like it tho the ppl are too toxic and most of the time its just boring

[tepid wyvern]

it bores tf outta me now but i got 4k hours lmao

got boring when i beat the best comp player just suffered from success, and the devs suck balls and only appeal to the new players and make the old ones wanna kill themselves

[mellow token]

So when no fire got announced and said they said “they’ve been on working on this game for five years” I just decided to do the math so since no man’s guy is seven years old, that would mean two years after no man guy came out they started work on this game

[tepid bane]

ZThey were brain storming for 3 of those years. According to the older interviews with Sean

So really 2 years of hard code

Which isnt much

[opaque citrus]

LNF is already atfer 5 years of development. So imo pace of nms updates will be the same or even better due to some things finished in LNF and having some human resources free to work on nms.

[fallen cave]

Hey how much is like no fire going to cost

[crisp vault]

No one knows yet
I suspect it’ll be be about as much NMS does

[foggy geyser]

Light every 🔥

[fallen cave]

Wait what if light no fire has the same VR capabilities as no man's sky

[short beacon]

One man’s sky looks fun

[rotund bone]

nah it's no man's land

[foggy geyser]

Yes Man's Land

[inner prairie]

Yes Woman’s Land

[tepid bane]

Burn the Atlas Land 😛

[unique ruin]

No!!

[foggy geyser]

Yes!!

[short beacon]

Not a living souls atmosphere

[hardy fulcrum]

LIGHT NO FIRE?!

so what we just be cold and eat raw food then? 😦

lemme at least one fire 🥹

[sand wasp]

Light No Fire!

[foggy geyser]

Light Every Fire!

[unique ruin]

NOO

[opaque citrus]

Comon baby light no fire

[uneven shuttle]

🔥🔥

[deft lagoon]

Is light no fire another game?

[quartz phoenix]

upcoming game

[deft lagoon]

Okay thanks!

[quartz phoenix]

wasn't sure if you were joking or not, have you seen the trailer?

https://youtu.be/jKQem4Z6ioQ?si=SsOjo7AReya1AA9a

[deft lagoon]

I haven't, I'll watch it

[deft lagoon]

That looks pretty awesome

[quartz phoenix]

yup, i'll for sure be keeping an eye on it. Looks more polished than NMS did early on, but Sean Murray has to have a lot more resources now and probably learned quite a bit from the bad NMS launch

[deft lagoon]

Yeah, it looks real nice!

[foggy geyser]

Need i light every fire again??

Light Every Fire!

[tepid bane]

The Doors: Light my Fire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=qoX6AKuYWL8&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2F&embeds_referring_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo

I can see that being background music for a video on the game lol

Im curious if the game will have proc gen dungeons

That would be fun

[cinder notch]

Come on baby light no fire
You know we couldn’t get less higher

[uneven shuttle]

I want to walk thru the landscape listening to riders on the storm now

[simple quarry]

Think this will get a vr version

[short beacon]

Out of all the stuff at the game awards that was announced light no fire is definitely like up there. Probably second to monster hunter wilds, but I'm still super hyped for it. I have a feeling this game will be worth playing even if does just turn out to be a fantasy reskin of nms.

[hardy fulcrum]

hurry and gib game

ive waited years

[patent furnace]

!gib

[split meteor]

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

[patent furnace]

84 years

[uneven shuttle]

Time was created to make you wait for LNF

[hardy fulcrum]

it tru 😭/

oldge 😦

[unique ruin]

Dang it! You're like the Final Boss for Smokey the Bear

[foggy geyser]

I hope to become a Final Boss

Perhaps like Soul of Cinder

[royal tide]

Is the map proc gen?

[foggy geyser]

We dont know, but personally i think not considering massive amounts of players would lag servers if it did (kinda similar to Minecraft in that way)

[magic dome]

It says procedurally generated planet

I'm not sure exactly what that entails though lol. Mostly cuz idk how proc gen works in the first place

[storm flame]

I think they will generate the planet in its entirety once

And then let us play on it

[fierce kayak]

Hoping HG has a large focus on deeper and more meaningful biome diversity across the planet

[tepid bane]

Hrmm, Id imagine a equal number to nms

Just all on one world

[void palm]

We’ve seen quite a few already in the first trailer

[opaque citrus]

We can expect at least nms condensed to 1 planet.

[fierce kayak]

yes, though i’m hoping they’ve made some big improvements to the procedural generation system and we see even deeper changes and improvements to specific biomes. Another interesting thought is how biomes will transition between one another

I think they could take the time to improve forests a lot as well, as they have a big part in the fantasy genre

[opaque marten]

I can’t imagine how great the game is gonna be man a map the size of earth!? Instant buy for me

When is it gonna be released?

[sand wasp]

No one knows

[opaque marten]

Man

[dense lagoon]

10

[tepid bane]

Honestly, I imagine the game will be similar to boundless

Really hard to do good biome transitions.

SO many layers

Im curious if its a actual globe or a plane generation

[fierce kayak]

the reason i’m thinking about it is because it’s going to become more important than ever and is a problem they need to tackle. With major biomes changing. You see the subtleties of this in NMS within one biome changing across a planet, but I’d be much more curious to explore the whole planet if they spent more time on this aspect

even something like climbing a snow-capped mountain, if they attempt to go for some realism with that, there’d need to be a transition between snow and no snow in a not so abrupt way

[cinder notch]

“Some” snow
Solved it
Check please

[foggy geyser]

When it does therell be some fires for me to light

[fierce kayak]

i’ll be sure to light the fire

[thin belfry]

do NOT light the fires

it says in the name

[unique ruin]

See Bee understandd

[tepid bane]

My wonder is, if its a actual globe, with immense size, how will they handle localized biomes

Will it be realistic, where you need to travel to the poles, via perhaps a gate network??

Or will it be like minecraft, hodgepodge

[vestal kelp]

"we didnt start the fire" billy joel predicted the game

he didnt light no fires

terrible joke i know

[foggy geyser]

Me when Billy Joel doesnt light the fire, lights fire

[vocal aspen]

But if I do i get to see shadow friends 😄

[cursive sentinel]

[steep coral]

Wait, I didn't know there was an LNF channel here :o

[median perch]

I just saw this game's trailer from an ad on YouTube and I thought it was a big update for No Man's Sky 😆 , especially when I saw the Hello Games logo. Hopefully it won't flop like No Man's Sky had in its release, given all the hype. At least if it does, I don't think Hello Games would abandon the game. It looks intriguing.

[tepid bane]

I mean its already developed, so it wont not release.

When its finished, who knows

[opaque marten]

I doubt it’ll flop but we shall see

[neat bear]

Rigogen on the LNF server got his art posted!

[unique ruin]

YO, he is amazing

[opaque marten]

I can’t wait for this game to be released

[vestal kelp]

so anyway, i started lighting

[near wren]

I can’t wait for this game to be released too

[digital cliff]

[wispy pike]

same

looks amazing

[tepid bane]

Im curious what they come up with music wise.

The whole setting could really use some epic orchestrals.

[cursive sentinel]

Or some procgen stuff like in NMS again

[deft oar]

any ETA on a date?

[neon whale]

Not yet

[foggy geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/doggett-x-files-match-fire-gif-19898834

[opaque marten]

I wish they could give us an approximate date…

[fierce kayak]

that’s the exact thing they don’t want to do

[livid edge]

im sorry everyone i know people have probably asked but do you think they will keep updating nms after their new baby is born

[tepid bane]

Oh for sure.

They have a bigger update coming up. No clue if its the last of course, but i imagine they have years to come

[foggy geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-flame-light-gif-14925308

Light every 🔥

[uneven shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-flame-look-what-i-have-created-shout-gif-17812125

Sean's fault. I need more info, or I light more fires

[runic sundial]

I hope the devs don't let no man's sky to die when light no fire releases

[paper oracle]

So. Has there been any word on pvp?

[paper oracle]

No way you're here too!?!?!

[paper oracle]

Seems we have similar tastes in games sleeper.

[raw condor]

what is light no fire??

[foggy geyser]

the next game Hello Games is making

[raw condor]

oh

[foggy geyser]

similar but slightly different approach to NMS

[raw condor]

they better not abandon nms when it cones out

[foggy geyser]

#light-no-fire message

trailer

[raw condor]

ty

[foggy geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/giving-the-sign-timothee-chalamet-paul-atreides-dune-the-sign-gif-18400823

oh yea gifs dont work here

[paper oracle]

Just fecking crazy ain't it.

[toxic quest]

We do know we can play with friends in LNF, but I wonder if we're gonna see clans or guilds start spinning up for recruitment for more of a role playing purpose once we get closer to release.

[worn spade]

Is it only me, or the Light No Fire website is undergoing issues loading the layout? It looks so weird

[foggy geyser]

Perhaps its a mobile load issue, perhaps not

[ornate charm]

Looking forward to this. A whole world procedurally generated with multiple biomes. I am hoping for deep caves for spelunking, mountains to climb, rainforests teeming with life, etc. I suggested to Sean when NMS first came out that they build something like the Long Earth series of books by Terry Pratchett (highly recommend) where you create a device that allows you to portal to an almost identical world to the ‘East’ or ‘West’ of the Prime world but the further you get from Prime the greater the variations from Prime world. That would be awesome

[wet pike]

really hoping we have some cool building types... like eldritch cyclopian metal like the crazy remnant 1 labirynth looking giant in the trailer

[fast pond]

no, they should so we can get NMS 2 with better planets.

[foggy geyser]

Lnf is last i heard is monoplanet

[cinder notch]

Unibody

[tawny junco]

this has already happened unofficially

people making groups and stuff lol

its neat seeing all the hype

and they most likely aren't abandoning NMS based on TGA thing

the compilation trailer at the end said "2024, our journey continues"

[zenith plank]

Who else is hyped for this lol

I'm hyped

It looks mental

They basically took what they got going with NMS, turned it up to 10 and put it on one planet lol

[uneven shuttle]

Some day Sean will tell us more info. Until then, my hype is dead.

[short beacon]

Umm curious to know what the max size for dragons is and what kind of variety in Dragons we will have... I want something that looks ready for battle. I'm still thinking about names for mine though

[tawny junco]

there's multiple types of dragons

based off the trailer

[cinder notch]

smol drac
beeg dracco

[tawny junco]

though i would like to possibly see wyrms

and drakes

[tepid bane]

Just curious how proc gen animals will be, the non mount types

[opaque citrus]

A mix of real and fantasy animals i think

Maybe something simliar to Final fantasy?

Would be cool to have LNF version of chocobo

[dim anvil]

Just imagine being able to fight a fire drake like smoug.

[cinder notch]

semifinal fantasy

[fierce kayak]

are they doing procedurally generated animals? I could see HG going with handcrafted animals and monsters for this game

[cinder notch]

No blobs please

[tawny junco]

lol

the flying blobs

[foggy geyser]

Light Every fire

[fierce kayak]

I think I'd appreciate more if HG focused on handcrafted fauna and monsters with a deeper focus on their behavior and abilities, which is where the fauna in NMS fall way short, despite updates coming that had improved them.

Such as: animals sitting down and sleeping 🤯

[runic sundial]

my hope is just that lnf will be vr supported too

[fierce kayak]

I bet it will

I feel like that's something the devs would have on their mind now for the release, instead of having to rework it completely to work in VR like they did with NMS

[tawny junco]

most likely will

[foggy geyser]

I hope both biomes, water pools (no matter size) and both npcs, flora and fauna will be more detailed

[fierce kayak]

Visually we can expect it. The fauna HG added later on looked way better than the originals, such as the tri-legged rock guys (or do they have 4 legs…i forget).

[tepid bane]

Im expecting a species

Maybe 120 animals, with variations.