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Last Updated: 10:07am 08-Jun-2023 UTC by Singular Gleam#4977

[golden snow]

This is the current decrypted message from the autophages

Courtesy of @glossy sage
Insert Atlantideum into a Korvax station core
Translation : I See Her

[golden snow]

From @pine pike https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345378190568587275/1116014141648412882/image.png

From @pine pike https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345378190568587275/1116029499977510972/image.png
"autopilot locked ... reaching destination in ERROR years"

From @molten thicket "Life is never extinguished. The data remains. The will remains"

[rigid gulch]

Yessir ARG

[golden snow]

Let's Go!

[scarlet kernel]

oh how I've missed these days

[young turtle]

so
the games afoot...

[golden snow]

Now we dig for info

Oh, gotta add the audio datamines

Brb

[sullen spire]

probably a stupid question but, why hello games decided to put some ARGhhh to the game

[scarlet kernel]

I've heard a few of those during this expedition already btw. Sadly they come from a rather familiar source.... the Atlas

;-;

but wait

that means

atlas is saying the hidden message!

atlas is actually speaking to us

[young turtle]

also be warned i have never done an arg in my entire life, so i don't know what i'm doing

[sullen spire]

as if atlas is up to something

[young turtle]

not yet

[golden snow]

All the sound files Jib posted here before, along with the source, @eager anchor's Tweet: https://twitter.com/bomber_that/status/1665444587266031619
See audio files:

• #nms-spoilers message
• #nms-spoilers message

ThatBomberBoi (@bomber_that)

I've compiled the converted .OGGs here: https://t.co/T8wJTigEdm

For anyone wanting to check out these files in the game, the filenames are the same in the game's unpacked files, just with a .WEM file format.

Twitter · Jun 4, 2023, 7:45 PM

[young turtle]

my f-----ing ears

[golden snow]

Eeeeeee

Someone said like the sound glass would make screaming

Lol

[young turtle]

i had my volume up a max
scared the hell out of me

[rigid gulch]

any mention of Loop16/Emily yet?

[golden snow]

Nah, this isn't going to relate I don't think

Separate ARG

[young turtle]

Loop16
that's a name i haven't heard in a long

long

time

[eager anchor]

Are these the only ARG elements?

I've got a data dump of all the hex codes from comparing the strings... Looks like I spoiled it for myself 😅

[golden snow]

So far it seems so

[eager anchor]

Can't see anything suspicious added in the files again so far, gonna keep digging to see if that trend continues

[golden snow]

Roger, you can post datamined stuff for the ARG here if you snag anything else

[young turtle]

ah sweet
incomprehensible cosmic horrors beyond understanding

[golden snow]

Yeah!

[young turtle]

fr whoever mad those sounds, good freaking job

[rigid gulch]

What should this ARG be called?

[young turtle]

Singular titan

[golden snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345378190568587275/1115042804494774355/image.png

[young turtle]

flashbacks to the time aphex twin hid his face in a spectrogram of one of his songs

[low kettle]

@stuck umbra have you gone through the posts here?

[waxen imp]

well now i'm going through The Hoarder's Hunt AND The Void Mother ARG (temporary name?)

[vague oriole]

This is exciting!

[true dagger]

Apparently, the name of the user who discovered the expedition system planets is also hexadecimal

[scarlet kernel]

From playstation blog from Sean!

Hecking heck. Far reaching consequences and deeper story to come

aaaa

[young turtle]

i'm gonna see how i can integrate this into my expedition logs
i always go for a "quasi-meta" story

for example i refer to the discord as the "Network"

[obsidian silo]

Ohhhhh interesting

Stupid autocorrect 😑

[scarlet kernel]

I am quite curious

[molten thicket]

I'm living for this tbh

[obsidian silo]

Count me in

Can anyone show me welcome screen please

[young turtle]

so how do i get involved in this arg?

[molten thicket]

Playing the game and the Expedition really :3

[scarlet kernel]

play the expedition, decipher the clues, work together with others!

or kick back, relax and enjoy as the things unveil

That's what I did during waking titan since I couldn't do most of the irl stuff required. Just enjoyed the stuff

[young turtle]

i pick this

[flint knoll]

"We will never see home again."

https://i.imgur.com/5L7y0nu.jpeg

[rigid gulch]

I’m so freaking happy that there’s another NMS ARG. I’ve waited 5 years for this

[scarlet kernel]

and I'm happy they're finally advancing the story!

[keen oak]

i suggest the name "sleeping dwarf" for this ARG

[flint knoll]

Also the text in the smaller display is VOID PRIME

[flint knoll]

idk if we're naming the ARG

or why we'd be doing that now

[keen oak]

🤷‍♂️

[plush axle]

"Void Prime" That's new.

[flint knoll]

Like eventually. But then why wouldn't it just be the Singularity ARG.

[keen oak]

...it's a play on words, like "Waking Giant" --> "Sleeping Dwarf"

[scarlet kernel]

Heck yes! I suspected they were rebuilding the Void Mother / Korvax Prime / Abyss! That's what the whole Voice of Freedom started last year when it made all the NPC races destroy station cores!

[keen oak]

so the voice of freedom is a front for the abyss?

or controlled by it?

[scarlet kernel]

seems to be

[limber adder]

Oh

My god

[flint knoll]

Yeah but in what way is this the opposite lmao

[scarlet kernel]

I have no idea what other entity may have such power over all the races. Only atlas has been able to affect them so far

[plush axle]

So is the abyss an opposing force to the Atlas?

[keen oak]

maybe the voice is a propagandic way for the abyss to influence people and wipe out the influence of the Atlas

[keen oak]

pretty much, but more like the abyss is scrambling to escape FROM the atlas

[scarlet kernel]

It's an entity with similar power to Atlas. So far it has only corrupted things and caused us troubl

[flint knoll]

Was the Abyss what convinced the Sentinels to rebel from the Atlas?

[keen oak]

ya

[young turtle]

aren't the biological horrors believed to have originated from the Abyss?

[scarlet kernel]

well this part of the expedition proves my theory of Voice of Freedom being just Abyss

Abyss promises freedom too

[keen oak]

them and the weird corruption that is in abandoned buildings and stations

[molten thicket]

Other Hex quotes, just so they don't get lost
"We are a lifeboat"
"A new Atlantid is coming"
From @pine pike and @scarlet kernel

[keen oak]

wait. theres a second atlantid now?

[scarlet kernel]

They're rebuildig it!

[limber adder]

A lifeboat escaping the sinking ship of the universe

[flint knoll]

Those fragments do NOT give much Atlantideum btw

[molten thicket]

Soon, I'm guessing 😉

[keen oak]

so now do we have 3 different factions vying for power or is the second atlantid just "a lifeboat" for the first?

[zenith gull]

So, i've been getting these corrupted balls everytime i go to the space station. Captured only two messages, has anyone decrpyted them?

[young turtle]

yes

[molten thicket]

Let me check if either of these is a new one Constant 🙂

[zenith gull]

last one is probably new

first one was decrpyted i see

[molten thicket]

"Life is never extinguished. The data remains. The will remains" and "We are a lifeboat"

Believe we've got both of those in here 🙂

[keen oak]

this one ^

[scarlet kernel]

atlas certainly doesn't seem to like the autophage we're building

[keen oak]

i dont think the Atlas likes anything to do with the Atlantid tbh

[young turtle]

what ARE the atlantids?

[limber adder]

I certainly wouldn't

[scarlet kernel]

there is only one Atlantid. Called Void Mother by lesser beings

[keen oak]

Atlantid = Void Mother = Abyss = The First Convergence

[young turtle]

so is the atlantid, for all intents and purposes..

[glass shoal]

I think HG are being a tad liberal with their use of "ARG" here, as after all it stands for Alternate Reality Game, where the game exists in an alternate reality to the game/media it's attached to. Like Waking Titan, or ILoveBees. The only actual ARG element they've dropped so far are the spectrographs in the datamined audio files, everything else I consider to be just in-game puzzles. Thus I don't expect we will receive trailheads, Twitter posts from strange accounts, and the like, and this will be mostly digging up some additional clues within the game files

[young turtle]

Korvax Prime?

[keen oak]

yes

[young turtle]

huh

[keen oak]

which is also the abyss which is also the void mother, yea

[young turtle]

well that raises many questions

most of which are terrifying

[empty kelp]

In the trailer there's a voice talking it says "I've seen things", could this voice be Telamon? He went to the world of glass and is the voice in the exosuit.

[molten thicket]

100%. For one almost everything that's wrong with the simulation can be traced back to this one 'being'. 😉

[young turtle]

iirc it's a reference to a quote from blade runner

[scarlet kernel]

Korvax Prime is the original home world of Korvax. It was the center convergence, a living planet that the Gek destroyed for its valuable minerals.

Sentinels could hear the screams and cries of Korvax Prime through each iteration of the simulation, over and over millions of times, yet they did nothing to stop it

[molten thicket]

There was also "Korvax honoured fallen - tried to bring back Atlantid, birthed failed Eggs... On the shoulders of a sleeping god, from flesh built a metal world." in the archives

[scarlet kernel]

a remnant of Korvax Prime has somehow survived in the void, gathering strenght all these years, manifesting in all sorts of ways to us

[keen oak]

so basically korvax prime/first convergence somehow managed to survive being glassed and has realized that the atlas is a simulation AND it is dying soon. so the-now atlantid is currupting everything in an attempt to escape destruction

[molten thicket]

So maybe that's the eggs we're seeing?

[young turtle]

SO ARE THE SCREAMS WE HEAR ON CORRUPTED SENTINEL PLANETS THOSE OF KORVAX PRIME?

[keen oak]

very scary

[scarlet kernel]

one dialog described some of the screams as "A noise if Glass could scream" so... maybe?

[young turtle]

holy

[scarlet kernel]

But yeah, Korvax Prime became the Abyss after its destruction

[glass shoal]

Having said that I will peace out for now to avoid spoiling the expedition until the PS5 version lands. It's unfortunate that a community-based puzzle/game was not synced up in terms of platform drops. Good luck everyone!

[sick lantern]

Yooo stupid question

Anyone else thinking this poster looks like one of them QR codes to scan?

Anyone finished the expedition phase to get this poster to check in game?

[keen oak]

that part in the far left-top is very interesting

[sick lantern]

Or should I yoink it from game files lol

[keen oak]

go go gadget datamining

[sick lantern]

Yup see you in 2 hours lol

(jk but unpacking will take like 10-20 minutes)

[keen oak]

👋

[true dagger]

So this is a new space encounter that we're analysing?

[scarlet kernel]

yups

[true dagger]

definitely could be

Managed to translate the text yet?

[lean apex]

i've decoded pretty much every first atlantid (i may have missed one)

[true dagger]

Do we have the rest of the autophages now?

[waxen imp]

i have like 10-12 minutes until i can hop onto nms and begin my journey to help solve these puzzles

until then, how're we going

[lean apex]

the giant orb says this:

void rime (the text that appears on the transmission screen in first-person flight view):
We are a lifeboat
We will never see home again
autopilot locked . . reaching destination in ERROR years
A new Atlantid is coming
Life is never extinguished. The data remains. The will remains.

one for each stage

i would love to get more info but unfortunately my milestones are locked :(

[scarlet kernel]

Hex from autophage names from phases 1 to 4
57 65 64 6F 6E 6F 74 6E 65 65 64

"We do not need... "

still missing last 2 names

[true dagger]

CORRUPTION

nothing too interesting

[true dagger]

That seems very similar to the civilisation pods

[pine pike]

Not encrypted stuff but, should probably have something soon cause ive got all the construct parts now

[true dagger]

does anyone have the text to compare?

[lean apex]

this means

our own

ownvergence

[sick lantern]

I don't mean the glyph letters

The dots in the background

[true dagger]

I know, thought it might say something interesting

[lean apex]

there's also a hidden message in the new audio files, "she sees through their eyes"

but so far that's everything i've had the chance to gather

[scarlet kernel]

those are hex values that correspond to ASCII characters.

First one is "Our own"

[lean apex]

second is "ownvergence"

[glossy steppe]

So is this void mother a different one to Korvax Prime?

Somehow

[true dagger]

this one is SCRAP PARTS AVAILABLE

[young turtle]

They’re the same

[scarlet kernel]

Void Mother is the remnants of the destroyed Korvax Prime

[glossy steppe]

Ah okay

[sick lantern]

There is a single texture file with all those posters lol

[lean apex]

the construct just softlocked my game :(

[sick lantern]

Just the purple one

[pine pike]

Also the discoverer on each rendezvous systems all add up to "We will build our own"

[keen oak]

wait so some are leaving the atlantid and building a new one? all these clues seem to lead to that

[scarlet kernel]

There is no atlantid to leave since it was destroyed long ago. They seem to be building/reconstructing it back though

[molten thicket]

"Korvax honoured fallen - tried to bring back Atlantid, birthed failed Eggs... On the shoulders of a sleeping god, from flesh built a metal world." in the archives

[torpid girder]

What about the Abyss being called Atlantid? And Laylaps talking about being in contact with the Abyss entity?

[scarlet kernel]

Korvax called their home planet Atlantid since it was a sentient entity

it was the convergence

[torpid girder]

Okok

[scarlet kernel]

other races would call it Korvax Prime

[keen oak]

wait what? i was under the impression the atlantid is still alive

[torpid girder]

Unfortunately I missed the 1. Part of the Story 🥲

[keen oak]

oh wait

nevermind

[scarlet kernel]

A remnant of it is alive... somewhere deep in the void... been waiting

[keen oak]

so this expedition is about the reconstruction of korvax prime, right?

[scarlet kernel]

it has manifested itself to us several times during the past 4-5 years

[scarlet kernel]

It appears that Korvax Prime is being reconstructed under a new name, Void Prime

nothing is certain yet. Things are in motion and pieces are finally moving

I suspected it was being rebuilt last year when "Voice of freedom" began altering the different NPC races minds and making them deconstruct station cores for some unknown purpose

[young turtle]

That’s whack

[pine pike]

hex says "what is this place"

for context it came from the same terminal where we put artemis

or didnt put artemis

[torpid girder]

Maybe it will change it's message after the threshold gets up

[wild tartan]

For additional reference:
https://twitter.com/Sully_Kiwi/status/1666499406265196568?s=20

SullyKiwi (@Sully_Kiwi)

"evacuation failed. lifeboats lost. all converted"
#NoMansSkySingularity
#NoMansSkySpoilers

Twitter · Jun 7, 2023, 5:36 PM

[pine pike]

maybe

[keen oak]

station cores = processing power (?)

[scarlet kernel]

could be

[torpid girder]

Looks like we need to restore the convergences data

[young turtle]

Lifeboats

[scarlet kernel]

another revelation / cliffhanger waiting!

hecking heck

[young turtle]

Do they mean those civilization pods?

[night mason]

Are you supposed to shoot the big weird crstal spheres you find in space? It looks like they did in the trailer

Or rather what happesn if you shoot them

[torpid girder]

Let's do it and find out

[wraith valve]

||They blow up and give you a random corrupt planet material||

Btw did anyone complete the 4th milestone of phase 4?

[pine pike]

yeah

[wraith valve]

I talked to nada, what do I do next

[scarlet kernel]

whatever the mission tells you to

probably head to the ritual site

[pine pike]

yeah should just be go to the atlas station and talk to it

[wraith valve]

Waypoint for that isnt appearing

Even asked Polo to give me the coords

[scarlet kernel]

you have a new quest in the quest menu. Something about Nada's location thingy

highlight that and you should have a waypoint

[scarlet kernel]

Have you done the Grand Divergence milestone in Phase 4 yet?

I think I had to do that first

[wraith valve]

Oh nvm it was that

My bad

[scarlet kernel]

Understandable. They're kinda in the wrong order there

[young turtle]

Me waiting for Xbox

[wraith valve]

It talked about a "milestone menu" but I thought they referred to the one for stuff like distance walked or suvival time

[scarlet kernel]

Yee. Expedition Milestones

[dusk thorn]

the names of the autophages decode to "we do not need you"

[frail crest]

There is a new ARG? When is it starting? What will it be like?

[dusk thorn]

the ARG is in-game enciphered text, thus far

[pine pike]

Anyone know if the Anomalous Research milestone is community based

feeding echo seeds into it and the percentage to the next tier doesnt even move

[scarlet kernel]

Yeah. I'ts for the entire community to fill

one players contribution is only a fraction of a percent. Probably something around 0,001% or something

[pine pike]

I guess that makes sense

[scarlet kernel]

Yeah. Only when tens of thousands of players from all platforms start feeding it, it'll see any significant progression

[pine pike]

think i remember other expeditions having some indicator on the milestone page whether they were community based or not

unless im misremembering

[scarlet kernel]

I guess HG forgot to mention it this time. but yeah. The percentage bar is always server side and community based

[pine pike]

gotcha 👍

[scarlet kernel]

time to find some echo seeds

[versed beacon]

So we need to finish this in expedition?

[scarlet kernel]

Yup yup. Expedition which will lead into some sort of cliffhanger or opening that will continue in the next one

[versed beacon]

Damn just find we got arg clue to play lol

[true dagger]

I hope this is another long arg

like WT

[frail crest]

Oh. So no virtual stuff? No cassette tapes and web videos?

[true dagger]

Its only been announced for a few hours

[somber prairie]

time will tell

[frail crest]

Still fun

[true dagger]

it could easily get much more in depth

there was irl stuff with WT, right?

[somber prairie]

yes

[frail crest]

I'm so new to this stuff. This is my first ARG in NMS.

[scarlet kernel]

I love how the entire community can participate in this unlike WT. WT was really fun to follow but there wasn't much I could do to participate

[somber prairie]

outside of the irl meetups, they even broadcasted messages on foreign radio stations

[pine pike]

🫠

[frail crest]

I stumbled across an Autophage which said "the seventeenth ????"

[young turtle]

so here's my take on things

wall of text incoming

actually nevermind

[somber prairie]

Loop17!!!

[young turtle]

still too early

[ember moth]

Iirc that’s been in there for a while

[true dagger]

Im wondering if they've finally added the ones in between

[frail crest]

Usually those numbers (the ninth , the eleventh etc) are followed by a binary code but "the seventeenth" was followed by questionmarks.

[rigid gulch]

Waking titan was amazing

So happy there’s a new ARG

[lean apex]

it’s possible to do that task for some reason

[rigid gulch]

Yoooo loop 17

[somber prairie]

In the Waking Titan lore, Loop16 is/was the 16th iteration of the AI that generates the Atlas simulation(no mans sky). Presumably also the reason number 16 appears everywhere

[wraith valve]

In crimson huh

Ah nvm this is more of a #nms-spoilers thing right?

[frail crest]

So there will be 17th iteration? Is this a hint to HG's new game or NMS receiving a MASSIVE update with a new game engine and all? This is just me speculating off course.

[young turtle]

hollup
let her cook

[somber prairie]

Season one and two of Waking titan each culminated in the largest updates no mans sky has received, Atlas Rises, and Next. So its not an unreasonable guess

[frail crest]

Or is the 17 iteration the Abyss?

[somber prairie]

I dont know about new engine necesarily, but changes are sure to come

[frail crest]

What do you mean?

[young turtle]

it means that you're on to something

[scarlet kernel]

rather than speculating we should focus on the things at hand. As HG have stated, this is only a part of a story arc which will only deepen and lead to something even bigger. Could be the stuff that they're teasing here like the Korvax Prime being reconstructed as Void Prime and so on

[frail crest]

So I suspect something similar will happen now. I didn't experience Waking Titan btw. I have only been playing NMS since 2021.

[hollow sleet]

its the countdown? the atlantid archive story says 19th

[scarlet kernel]

Yeah. We aren't going back in time 😛

[stuck umbra]

Heh. I've been wondering if ||Emily|| is ||Mother|| for a while. :P

[scarlet kernel]

the clock is ticking down my fellow travelers

[young turtle]

soon

all shall be revealed

[golden snow]

Don't say that on the CSD server, got a dude there that is very negative about it

[hollow sleet]

[Journey]
Brain - kzzkt - formed in void, spontaneous, complete - kzzkt - Atlas protocol made flesh.

The Atlantid, called Void Mother by lesser voices, brought pilgrims - kzzkt - its mass -

Lived for millennia - kzzkt - died, whispering of the nineteenth minute. ```

[somber prairie]

Its worth taking a glance at the game detectives wiki page on waking titan, get an idea of what it was. When Waking Titan started, there was HUGE debate whether or not it was even related to No Mans Sky

[scarlet kernel]

Waking Titan was mostly an alternative storyline that fit into NMS story. Not necessarily canon withing NMS universe. And wasn't Emily the Atlas in waking titan?

[frail crest]

It seems as if the lore is being revamped, because the Atlas only had ||16 minutes of operation time left||

[hollow sleet]

not revamped just more backstory

[scarlet kernel]

They can tell more about the earlier minutes

as of now we have only known very little, if anything

[true dagger]

afaik, WT is fully canon

[viral dagger]

How are people deciphering those weird messages

what's the cipher

[true dagger]

hexadecimal, theres translators online

[young turtle]

it is

[hollow sleet]

base 64

[true dagger]

well, base 16

[hollow sleet]

oh right

[scarlet kernel]

but in-game lore about Atlas being left alone on its creators home world as they left wouldn't fit Waking Titan lore

idk

[hollow sleet]

too used to typing that thanks to horror ARGs

[true dagger]

how so?

I dont know hardly anything about WT, so forgive me

[scarlet kernel]

Waking Titan was about Ware uploading humans into a simulation and so on. It happened in our world. there are lots of twists and turns there which I'm not fitted to explain at this state of mind. Focusing on things at hand atm

[frail crest]

Then what are those numbers past 16 supposed to mean? In the rogue data logs I read that ||at the 16th minute someone came and was with the Atlas. The Atlas was no longer alone||.

[scarlet kernel]

I recall it was at the final minutes?

16th minute was pretty chill

[frail crest]

Yes. I recall the final minute

Maybe the time past ||the 16 minutes|| is not the end.

[glossy steppe]

19th minute was probably 3 minutes ago

[scarlet kernel]

but this ARG and story seems to be entirely focused on things happening within the simulation and stuff that affects us, the travelers and our world. Not the world outside of the simulation. (that could change tho)

[glossy steppe]

As in the 19th minute before the end

[frail crest]

No shit Sherlock

🤣

[wild tartan]

❓ What is ARG?

It stands for alternate reality game. It's a "game" or series of puzzles that players work on, in and outside the game, to solve as a community.

[scarlet kernel]

maybe if Void Mother succeeds in saving itself from the impending doom

[glossy steppe]

Oh I misread you lol

[stuck umbra]

||That depends on how one would interpret the time dilation vs. spaghetification issue when falling into the event horizon of a black hole. The Hollywood version would mean there's all the time in the world.||

[frail crest]

Or did I misread you?

[frail crest]

Oooh yes. Good point, Bliss, forgot about that.

[glossy steppe]

I'm not sure now 😭 I thought you were saying that the 19th min was past the end or something lol

My brain is kinda fried atm

[frail crest]

I said that.

[glossy steppe]

Aaaah okay

I was saying it might count the other way

[frail crest]

But doens't spaghettification completely destroy a computer? I cannot imagine a computer still working when that happens.

[somber prairie]

For an entity near a black hole, time outside of the black hole will appear faster, while an entity far away from a black hole will see things near the black hole move more slowly. Time runs faster in gravitational fields proportional to the strength of said gravitational field

This means your feet will be pulled into the black hole faster than your head, causing spaghettification

[frail crest]

Apparently to an oudside observer time seems to stand still in a black hole

[lean apex]

is anyone else unable to find more Echo Seeds?

[stuck umbra]

One of my pet interpretations of the game lore is that ||we're already past the event horizon and the glitches are due to the time dilation while the atlas is in the process of being veeeeery slowly destroyed||

[somber prairie]

Because if time is faster for someone near a black hole, then someone in slower time will see them slow down to complete stillness until they reach the event horizon, where they will redshift and vanish

[frail crest]

But...||the Atlas is the entity near the black hole, but in the simulation 16 minutes are an eternity||

That kinda goes against the physics

[somber prairie]

time does not run uniformally

it is relativistic

[frail crest]

Because the ||simulation isn't the outside "observer" ||

[stuck umbra]

So does the flight model. If they stick to their own original themes they were always skewed more towards pulp sci-fi than hard sci-fi :P

[somber prairie]

If atlas is near a black hole, it would appear very much slower to an outisde observer, while its own perspective sees the universe passing by extremely fast

[frail crest]

I know, but if time runs faster near a black hole then ||the 16 minutes would be over in a split second from the perspective of the simulation|| while it would be an eternity for the outside observers.

[somber prairie]

Spot on

Would be a way to run immense calculations really fast tbh

[frail crest]

But then why are ||the 16 minutes an eternity in the simulation if it isn't supposed to be like that according to physics? ||

[somber prairie]

Just make a computer, start the calculation, send it around a black hole and see what it returns with

[frail crest]

No one has ever done that

[somber prairie]

purely theoretical of course

even voyager is barely out of our solar system

[frail crest]

If you would send a message directly into a black hole it will certainly vanish but if you manage to send it close enough but not that it gets into the event horizon it will likely be severely warped.

Are we #off-topic-bond-james-bond ? I don't want the mods to get mad lol

[somber prairie]

Good question. Maybe its just been around a while, even time dilation accounted for?

[somber prairie]

It seems we still dont know enough about this ARG to even know whats relating to it yet.

[frail crest]

Maybe the Atlas ||isn't going to be directly sucked in|| but is just passing by?

[somber prairie]

if you are near a black hole, chances are you end up inside

[frail crest]

Stars have been yeeted away by black holes tho.

[somber prairie]

Depends on their trajectory

[frail crest]

Could be the same for the ||Atlas||

[somber prairie]

Could be, but if its in a close orbit, i doubt anything smaller than a planet is staying around it for long

[true dagger]

From what we can gather from the lore, we are in the 16th minute now, and there are 16 minutes until the Atlas fails completely

[placid phoenix]

it's time dilation

[stuck umbra]

||Can't be. It was built precisely because the 'progenitor' civilization knew they were en route to falling into the event horizon and needed the atlas simulations to actually develop interstellar travel capabilities fast enough to escape before it was too late. The ... remembrance terminals, iirc, spell it out very clearly that the creators of the atlas left for other stars leaving the atlas behind for whatever reason and debating shutting it down as being more merciful.||

[limber adder]

We are well beyond the 16th minute i'm afraid

[somber prairie]

Gotta be

[placid phoenix]

what is 16 minutes for the atlas is much much MUCH longer for us

[true dagger]

of course, its not actually 16 minutes in our time

[placid phoenix]

I think it's entirely possible that the entire simulation only runs in 16 minutes and that it's not the last 16 minutes but possibly the only 16 minutes

[somber prairie]

A minute for something around a black hole might be centuries for anything not near the black hole

[placid phoenix]

in which case the first few minutes would be the initial boot up and whatnot

[true dagger]

theres information from what happened before the 16th minute

[limber adder]

We are somewhere between 10 and 5 minutes to be exact

[true dagger]

?

[placid phoenix]

source?

[true dagger]

I mean, the game does a very good and lengthy job at iterating 16

[limber adder]

Ten minutes left

The Travellers are no longer separated, no longer kept apart. They stand side by side at the end of days, traversing the remnants of creation, laughing, dying.

[frail crest]

Rogue data

[limber adder]

5 minutes is when it all begins to go to shit

We are in between 10 and 5

[true dagger]

Rogue data describes what happens at those times

[limber adder]

We have been for a long time

[somber prairie]

ten minutes must have been when multiplayer was added maybe

[true dagger]

Not what is happening

the travellers are still seperated, we see them as holograms

The boundaries have started to break, but they are not fully there yet

[placid phoenix]

that was always my interpretation yeah

[true dagger]

The game says, so many times, 16 minutes until the end

[placid phoenix]

it's moments like these I'm glad I'm a lore person lol, there's soooo much to unpack

[frail crest]

I love the NMS lore

[stuck umbra]

Gotta be careful to separate the predictions about the future (which may or may not be accurate) from the 'reality' of the present.

[true dagger]

This theory pops up every now and then, but I don't agree with it

[somber prairie]

Sameee, the 4th wall breaking aspects of it are always so fascinating to me

[frail crest]

Anyways, only time will tell, no pun intended

[young turtle]

when i got to the part in the artemis path where it says that ||the sentinels killed off all life in a universe in under an hour||, i actually froze in fear

[true dagger]

there are other texts which contradict the interpretation of remembrance terminals saying we are at the 11th minute

[placid phoenix]

first harmonic camp where you start in expedition the middle code isn't 9

[frail crest]

The Artemis part made me legitely cry. I felt such a bond with Artemis.

[placid phoenix]

isn't it always 9?

[true dagger]

I'll try to find the texts which talk about previous minutes

[placid phoenix]

was it a bug? or intentional

[stuck umbra]

I really like how aspects of the out-of-game history of NMS affected the in-game history / lore.

[true dagger]

iirc, 17 and 19 are both mentioned

[vague oriole]

Is there any good places to keep track of what is currently happening within the arg?

[true dagger]

here would be the best place

[ember moth]

So, what’s going on in the arg?

[young turtle]

ngl i'm more interested in the arg than the expedition

[scarlet kernel]

the ARG and expedition seem to tie together

[lavish raft]

what is arg

is it pirate themed. arrrrrg

[rigid gulch]

Alternate reality game

[young turtle]

this

[lavish raft]

oh. thought it was an update

[lone pendant]

I feel like I missed something important becuase I've not played recently but I saw today's release and ARG clues.

[wild tartan]

It's part of the update

The latest expedition is tied to this part of the ARG, which started with Interceptor (v4.2)

[stone rose]

arg time lads

[golden snow]

[young turtle]

any new developments?

[golden snow]

Haven't seen any, but I'm not watching everywhere

[rigid gulch]

Argggg

Mfw the waking titan website comes alive

[somber prairie]

Hello games got us turning into pirates with all this ARRRGGGG

[stone rose]

[somber prairie]

[golden snow]

https://twitter.com/bomber_that/status/1666546005737873408?s=20

ThatBomberBoi (@bomber_that)

#nomansskyspoilers
Those new ARG Tidbits about a new convergence may be referring to these new "NPCROBOT" models added with this update. These are separate from the expedition reward customization with more cloth / accessory details, as well as a giant "Staff".

Twitter · Jun 7, 2023, 8:41 PM

[somber prairie]

melee weapons would be so cool

not that thats what it is, but that definitely made me think of a staff multi tool

[true dagger]

Multiswords?!

[golden snow]

No idea

[viscid cove]

nms lightsaber gaming?!

[fallow pagoda]

Well, if HG wanted to flesh out their VR audience some, what better way than tossing in the most highly requested activity in the history of the tech? lmao

(While I'm not certain, I am at least confident that statement bears out true)

[lethal zenith]

Im stuck on Player IV, Atlas is not show up in galaxy map and I already done with Nada. Nothing happen 😦 what is "grand divergance" ??

[wild tartan]

You're doing a regular NMS questline? For gameplay questions, you can check #nms-questions. If discussing lore, you can spoiler tag questions there with the pipe character: | (like this: ||spoiler text ||)

This channel's specifically about an ARG event associated to the latest game update & expedition.

[lethal zenith]

It's ok I searched I found and sorted

[vague oriole]

Anyone else seen that the Atlas Codex is back up to record progress of the ARG?

[still cipher]

siiick

[golden snow]

Link please 🙂

[rigid gulch]

This ARG should be called “Void mother”

[golden snow]

I hope they name it for us, but I like that

[thorn acorn]

Are there any clues in that trailer? There seems to be something in those static as the trailer plays

[placid phoenix]

https://arg.atlascodex.space/

[golden snow]

Gracias

[young turtle]

so let me get this straight
correct me if i'm wrong
so the Void Mother/Atlantid/Abyss is the fragmented remains of Korvax Prime, and these corrupted sentinels are attempting to start their own Convergence, becoming those humanoid robots that we've been seeing.

is this right?

[scarlet kernel]

it appears to be

the korvax prime part is spot on at least

[restive citrus]

Was asked to send this here aswell, likely in base 16 (realizing now it most definetly is because 16) so that is the first step to translation

[unique tapir]

The message I got was a lot longer than that, 3 full lines

[golden snow]

We will never see home again

[young turtle]

whoever wrote the story for this arg was high off their ass
i commend that

[rigid gulch]

Who else is super happy that NMS has an ARG again after so long?

[golden snow]

<--- This Traveller

[viscid cove]

wait

when was the last time?

[wild tartan]

First ARG was back in 2017- 2018: https://wiki.gamedetectives.net/index.php?title=Waking_Titan

Phase 1 of the current one technically started with Interceptor (4.2)

There's no known connection between these ARGs. And as such, we're treating them separate. Most aspects if the old ARG can be discussed in #no-mans-sky as they wouldn't be spoilers.

[edgy isle]

Do you guys think because of the arg and continued narrative that it may be building it up to a huge update like BEYOND or ORIGINS?

[true dagger]

Upcoming: INFINITY

I just pulled the first word my brain thought of

[edgy isle]

I bet you it's gonna be called soemthing like VOID BREACH or VOID

[waxen imp]

VOID MOTHER?

i feel like it'd fit best

[slate yew]

Same, but how long has this one been going? Did we just find out about it today? I feel so behind haha

[meager tiger]

yea this one is today

[flint knoll]

https://i.imgur.com/ahQxsgR.jpeg

Did we point out the Rendezvous were discovered by hexes

I've gotten to WE and WILL

I'm assuming it was the quote I found before tho

[meager tiger]

"we will build our" something idk the 5th

[placid phoenix]

So like I can't imagine the arg thing will go on for very long right? Like I think we all have pretty much already figured out what's going to happen in the end, unless I'm missing something

[rigid gulch]

Could go on for a few more months

[waxen void]

Is there a palce or a link to what everyones found in the new ARG?

[placid phoenix]

nothing good so far, some info here and there

most important thing I've seen is this https://twitter.com/bomber_that/status/1666546005737873408?s=20

ThatBomberBoi (@bomber_that)

#nomansskyspoilers
Those new ARG Tidbits about a new convergence may be referring to these new "NPCROBOT" models added with this update. These are separate from the expedition reward customization with more cloth / accessory details, as well as a giant "Staff".

Twitter · Jun 7, 2023, 8:41 PM

this isn't necessarily part of the ARG but it's a pretty good hint as to where this is all headed

[wild tartan]

There's some stuff we've pinned in this channel. We'll probably add more pins / organize them along the way.

[restive citrus]

Who knows the end, for all we know this could all be leading to a universal reset with drastically changes (nms 2 or new planets though this is very far fetched and unlikely) but anything is possible

[edgy isle]

YALL

THERES A VOICE THAT PLAYS IN THE MAIN MENU IF YOU SIT THERE A WHILE

I WASNT RECORDING BUT IT SOUNDED SIMILAR TO LEAKED AUDIO FILES

[true dagger]

hmmmm

faaaaascinating

[quasi kite]

Did anyone ever try to play those audio files in reverse?

To see if it said anything?

[true dagger]

I was about to say put stuff through a spectrogram but i’m a few days late

lotta that had already been done lmao

[edgy isle]

I gotta go to bed but let me know if you are able to screen record the mini voice thingy

[native hill]

Someone catch me up on the arg lore please

[versed scarab]

what is ARG?

[rigid gulch]

Yooo what? There’s a voice in the main menu?????

[wild tartan]

!Faq-Arg

[dire crag]

❓ What is ARG? It stands for alternate reality game. It's a "game" or series of puzzles that players work on, in and outside the game, to solve as a community. Check Pins in #nms-arg-2023 for news on the latest NMS ARG (2023) Part II (*Part I started with Interceptor - v4.2)

[wild tartan]

If no one gets back, check some of the pins with info and links

[true dagger]

That's super interesting, how long roughly?

[versed beacon]

whats this

Is everyone got the same number or?

[runic zephyr]

Going by the numbers that occur, probably ASCII: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/ASCII-Table-wide.svg/2560px-ASCII-Table-wide.svg.png

[stone rose]

yeah what is this place

[hollow sleet]

If only there was a way to find out

[zenith gull]

Hi Sohail!

[hollow sleet]

Heyo how's the research going

[vague oriole]

There is also a binary message on the main page of the codex

probably unrelated to the ARG but it reads: System recovery initiated... standby...

[snow rampart]

You can ignore that, it’s been like it for a while. Can confirm it’s nothing to do with the ARG

The link for the timeline/events log is https://arg.atlascodex.space/, I need to catch up with what was found overnight and update the page 🙂

[torpid girder]

What about the Autophages saying the third: 1001001 etc.

did someone decode all the binary?

[zenith gull]

Already uncovered

#nms-arg-2023 message

Only part of it

[torpid girder]

yeah what was the word?

ah okk

[zenith gull]

Void mother

[torpid girder]

How do you make this type of redirect on discord lol

[zenith gull]

Copy link of the message and paste it

#off-topic-bond-james-bond

[upper glade]

I went through the language files and pulled all the hex I could find from expedition 10 values. Most of it is already on the atlascodex. Here are the results:
||56 4F 49 44 20 50 52 49 4D 45 0A
VOID PRIME
57 65 20 77 69 6C 6C 20 6E 65 76 65 72 20 73 65 65 20 68 6F 6D 65 20 61 67 61 69 6E
We will never see home again
4F 75 74 20 6F 66 20 6E 6F 74 68 69 6E 67 2C 20 73 68 65 20 77 69 6C 6C 20 72 65 62 75 69 6C 64 20 75 73
Out of nothing, she will rebuild us
4C 69 66 65 20 69 73 20 6E 65 76 65 72 20 65 78 74 69 6E 67 75 69 73 68 65 64 2E 20 54 68 65 20 64 61 74 61 20 72 65 6D 61 69 6E 73 2E 20 54 68 65 20 77 69 6C 6C 20 72 65 6D 61 69 6E 73
Life is never extinguished. The data remains. The will remains
41 20 6E 65 77 20 41 74 6C 61 6E 74 69 64 20 69 73 20 63 6F 6D 69 6E 67
A new Atlantid is coming
57 65 20 61 72 65 20 61 20 6C 69 66 65 62 6F 61 74
We are a lifeboat
61 75 74 6F 70 69 6C 6F 74 20 6C 6F 63 6B 65 64 20 2E 2E 2E 20 72 65 61 63 68 69 6E 67 20 64 65 73 74 69 6E 61 74 69 6F 6E 20 69 6E 20 45 52 52 4F 52 20 79 65 61 72 73
autopilot locked ... reaching destination in ERROR years
65 76 61 63 75 61 74 69 6F 6E 20 66 61 69 6C 65 64 2E 20 6C 69 66 65 62 6F 61 74 73 20 6C 6F 73 74 2E 20 61 6C 6C 20 63 6F 6E 76 65 72 74 65 64
evacuation failed. lifeboats lost. all converted
74 68 65 20 77 68 6F 6C 65 20 77 6F 72 6C 64 20 62 75 72 6E 65 64
the whole world burned

64 6F
do
6E 6F 74
not
6E 65 65 64
need
79 6F 75
you

67 6C 61 73 73
glass||

Sorry for the wall of text

[zenith gull]

Good

So it's something of a story about evacuation

Which failed

[junior raft]

||Maybe to do with people evacuating Earth in NMS lore? Earth was ending, so they had to evacuate and leave the Atlas there.||

[still cipher]

Man i swear we got some super juicy stuff coming

[vague oriole]

Yeah, this is exciting!

[waxen void]

Outside what's been translated do you think there will be anymore for this Expedition?
I wonder if it's leading to a No Man's Sky 2 or a new set of universes controlled by the Void Mother instead of Atlas?

[vague oriole]

Perhaps the Void Mother was what they evacuated from?

Either it’s their vessel/world or some sort of attacker?

[waxen void]

No... previous lore bits and bread crumbs suggest that the Void Mother and Glass are the deleted files and systems Atlas needed to remove to slow down the reality everyone in the simulated universe lives in while in the real world, where Atlas's servers are in the Sol System the sun is officially/canonically now past 6 mins where as in the beginnign of No Man Sky I think it started at 12 mins (there are a lot of players who are either confused or insist the times are different or stagnant)

The Void Mother, for all we know and what little we do know wants to try and "save" everyone and stop get Atlas to do something else.

Also if the older ARGs are still canon there's also sub-minds of Atlas so they could have seperated into their own servers/ai but thats just speculation.

[still cipher]

I hope it leads to a hostile race or something that we have to fight

[golden snow]

Void Mother = Abyss

And we already sing together

[still cipher]

:)

Hostile robot guys maybe idk

[waxen void]

Yeah I'm glad that was answered for us.

I am curious if we might get our first big Update or maybe this is leading to the first giant expansion for NMS or like I said earlier maybe its leading to a NMS 2 🤔

I am loving this year of content though, its been absolutely incredible

[dapper oriole]

mhhh what do you think the prize will be?

[golden snow]

They have already nixed the idea of NMS 2, but yeah I'm loving the evolving story

My guess would be that the Abyss replaces the Atlas, but I don't know if they would do that considering the impact on the main missions

[waxen void]

In some ways that isn't to impactful with how they can readily update the game already and expand on it 🤔 but yeah, this year is just poppin'

[waxen void]

Agreed; it's also really fustrating trying to discuss quite a few lore and story details with exactly what you're discussing.
There are terminals, abandoned buildings, little quips and pieces of information still in the game from when No Man's Sky released mixed in with their larger updates and their story beats as well as expeditions where Hello Game just decides to slide in a quip that is actually really concerning or important to the overall story that is from more recent updates so old and new information are just jumbled together

I don't know how they'll deal with that if they're continuing the story, soft-canon from recent updates and expeditions state we're past the "six minute mark" so I don't know how this helps the still incoming doom to us 🤔 it's certainly exciting

[golden snow]

Yeah, I love not knowing what is happening

Whatever it is, it's more icing for the cake

[glossy steppe]

I have a feeling that the main update this year might be a full entrance of the Abyss into the NMS universe as a tangible thing

Whether that's biomes, npcs, enemies etc I have no clue

Just as a force we can interact with

[waxen void]

That's what I'm low-key hoping will occur.
Maybe it'll be like when we decide to go to different iterations of the universe or there's giant sects of space thats Abyssal theme with their own list of planet types, enemies, fauna/flora and anomalies in it 💯

[golden snow]

Sorta is happening with the corrupted biomes too

I hope we do get a visual representation of the Abyss - Abyss Stations?

Big purple thing of some sort

[glossy steppe]

Maybe we get to communicate with it directly at some point

Other than the arg stuff idk what happens in this expedition yet, though

Cos xbox 😭

[fresh garnet]

Did anyone figured out to translate "H4ars!!%%^7e3 5un" so far?

[slate mesa]

my best guess: "harvested sun"

my guess is probably extremely wrong though

[fresh garnet]

hmm its just a guess...there should be a correct translation

[golden snow]

Hears the Sun

[fresh garnet]

yeah but HOW u translate?

why and how u make an "e" out of an "4"

[golden snow]

Datamine trickery

Those will be revealed eventually

Just what I've seen btw, not gonna commit until we see them uncorrupted

The bugged milestone is likely what will start to uncorrupt those

[fresh garnet]

yeah but what i mean is for the numbers and letters....u use Hexadecimal to encode it...how u encode "H4ars!!%%^7e3 5un". hexadecimal doesnt work and ohter codes that i found also not working

[golden snow]

They aren't in code we can decipher - these are like the corrupted missions we see at the Nexus

[fresh garnet]

hmm i dont think so

[placid phoenix]

Gleam is right, there's no cipher it's just a jumbled mess it would be the same as blotting it out like "---------" or whatever

[fresh garnet]

because when u use the reaktor to the autophage u get 67 6c 61 73 73 for the language of the sentinels/autophages

[golden snow]

That's a hex code

[fresh garnet]

when u decide for the SEED u get "H4ars!!%%^7e3 5un"

[golden snow]

These are just scrambled

[placid phoenix]

They did this with milestones in previous expeditions, it's just not readable until it's unlocked

[hollow sleet]

Considering the meta nature of the story I would imagine them setting up a scene where the "countdown" stops when they're done with content updates for the game

And the in game universe is now frozen

[fresh garnet]

yeah but theres a meaning behind everything and hint to the solution everywhere

for example "H4ars!!%%^7e3 5un"

7e3 translates in hex to "2019"...the year 2019? maybe

5un is not hex

but it means sun maybe

so there was a sun event in real life in 2019 related to the sun

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2020/01/The_Sun_in_2019

[glossy steppe]

It's just scrambled atm. It'll unscramble by itself at a later stage

There's no cypher or anything for it

[fresh garnet]

sorry but there is...

[golden snow]

Let us know when you get it

[fresh garnet]

sometimes there just some weird signs like in" ...whzzt 4r3 yI_I0 ...

translates like u read it "what are you"

its just a disturbence in sending it

like kkzzzt or something like that

but "H4ars!!%%^7e3 5un" is something diffrent

[glossy steppe]

It's not something exclusive to this expedition. The same scrambling is used in the other ones, and it's never meant anything. It does get unscrambled but it's not a code

[fresh garnet]

67 6c 61 73 73 is clearly a message (GLASS) and it rlates to the decision to use the reactor

"H4ars!!%%^7e3 5un" is the answer when u decide for the atlas seed to use

bcause the autophages talk about a code

earlier after the interceptor update

not only about the void mother..there where hints and numbers they lead to the rosettacode

2, 3, 7, 43, 13, 53, 5, 6221671, 38709183810571, 139, 2801, 11, 17, 5471, 52662739, 23003

these are not only numbers ....this is the euclid-mullin sequence....

and these ar 16 numbers....the first 16 in a long row....16!?

is anyone else working on this?

[split kite]

I'll be honest, you lost me at euclid mullen sequence

[fresh garnet]

because? wrong?

[split kite]

Just generally confused by all of it

[young turtle]

You and me both

[fresh garnet]

yeah..i need a programmer/mathematician who know this stuff

[dapper oriole]

You guys decoded the numbers that the atlantis ball give you?

[stuck umbra]

||56 4f 49 44 20 50 52 49 4d 45 0a = void prime||? yep

[fresh garnet]

void prime also some term in the euclid mullins...or in the rosetta code in general

euclid mullins sequence...2, 3, 7, 43, 13, 53, 5, 6221671, 38709183810571, 139, 2801, 11, 17, 5471, 52662739, 23003...are all prime numbers...funny right!?

[stuck umbra]

Why is it funny? If they weren't prime numbers they wouldn't be part of either of the mullins sequences.

[true dagger]

The names of the users who discovered the expedition planets are also hex words

[fresh garnet]

ohh right... didnt noticed that...

[stuck umbra]

Yeah I'm doing a second run to catch all of those, I'm up to ||We will build||

There's also the encoded message in the autophages names

[fresh garnet]

yeah ..the names translates to WE DO NOT NEED YOU...

[true dagger]

What about other things that have been discovered? Do they have hex names?

Like plants and animals

[fresh garnet]

not that i know..

[stuck umbra]

And ||77 68 61 74 20 69 73 20 74 68 69 73 20 70 6c 61 63 65 = what is this place||

[true dagger]

So far, does this arg seem similar to WT?

[fresh garnet]

WT?

[stuck umbra]

waking titan

[placid phoenix]

that was the name of the last ARG they did

[stuck umbra]

and not really. This one is clearly NMS related, while Waking Titan it took a while to figure out what it was about.

[true dagger]

As in, you don't think this one will have stuff outside of nms itself?

[fresh garnet]

is this the story about the foundation who searched the alternate realitys?

[stuck umbra]

difficult to speculate at this point

[true dagger]

So far we just have a ton of hex

[stuck umbra]

Yep. If they're doing it in-house its probably gonna be all in game. Waking Titan they hired some arg company to run it.

[true dagger]

Did we know they hired them at that point?

[stuck umbra]

only after it tied to the game

which was pretty far into the arg if memory serves

[true dagger]

So, is it possible they've hired them again?

[stuck umbra]

Sure, its possible. We'll only know if websites and stuff start popping up relating to it.

[true dagger]

I really hope so

[fresh garnet]

we know this is just an simultation on an big programm of alternate reality right`?

and theres an problem with the loop 16 ...

[young turtle]

Alice and smith or something like that

Allison smith?

[golden snow]

The problem with loop 16 is she is dead

[stuck umbra]

Alice & Smith, the company that runs The Black Watchmen and NITE Team 4

[golden snow]

Rip Emily

[young turtle]

[fresh garnet]

that means theres an loop of the first 16 euclid mullins sequence numbers

it not going any further...

https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Euclid-Mullin_sequence

u remember how many planets are in total in NMS?

[young turtle]

hold on

[fresh garnet]

https://numbermatics.com/n/18446744073709551616/

[young turtle]

18,446,744,073,709,551,616

65

that's a familiar number

[stuck umbra]

Another of the New Atlantids: || 65 76 61 63 75 61 74 69 6f 6e 20 66 61 69 6c 65 64 2e 20 6c 69 66 65 62 6f 61 74 73 20 6c 6f 73 74 2e 20 61 6c 6c 20 63 6f 6e 76 65 72 74 65 64|| = ||evacuation failed. lifeboats lost. all converted||

[young turtle]

65 days of static?

[rigid gulch]

18 quintillion

[young turtle]

that's the band that did the soundtrack for no man's sky

or maybe i'm looking too deep into it

[golden snow]

It's also 16^16

[stuck umbra]

and ||57 65 20 77 69 6c 6c 20 6e 65 76 65 72 20 73 65 65 20 68 6f 6d 65 20 61 67 61 69 6e|| = ||we will never see home again||

[young turtle]

i cri every tiem

[stuck umbra]

ah, looks like gumsk had datamined all of those already. And here I was, wasting time with my screenshots. :P

[young turtle]

nevermind

[stuck umbra]

?

[young turtle]

apparently an Atlas is a type of statue, also called an atlantid

[empty kelp]

if you click on it it mentions Telamon

[young turtle]

holy shit it does

could i be on to something?

[rigid gulch]

We will never see home again. Hmmm

[fresh garnet]

everything is old greek

[lean apex]

telamon in this instance is the roman term

[fresh garnet]

see all the interceptors the letters in the names? all greek letters

euclid is a greek mathematic

[empty kelp]

artemis and apollo are also greek myths

[stuck umbra]

if you want to go really deep down the rabbit hole it also mentions monoliths

[empty kelp]

it mentions titan (waking titan?)

[stuck umbra]

Atlas is a Titan in greek mythology.

[young turtle]

Atlas basically holds the entire world on his shoulders
much like ATLAS controls the entire simulation

[stuck umbra]

Tho not the same Atlas as the one that ruled Atlantis (and that the island was named after) according to Plato. That Atlas was the son of Poseidon, instead.

[stuck umbra]

Holds up the sky, if I recall.

[young turtle]

right

[fresh garnet]

for my guess was in 2019 something happens with the sun....they needed to evacuate all humans from earth but there was no solution for that. they researched the alternate realitys to get a chance to save everything...and the loaded all minds into a big simulation...but the simulation got a problem at the 16 loop of the prime numbers. and everything restarts. and here we go...

[rigid gulch]

That would be in the waking titan universe I’m assuming

Where that all happened

[fresh garnet]

on earth!?

sentinels and are maybe human souls...like we are,,and maybe like all the other races in the unviverse

[stuck umbra]

In my opinion we shouldn't be too quick to assume that the creators of the Atlas were necessarily human. Outside of Waking Titan, there's not even a single mention of humans anywhere that I can recall.

[fresh garnet]

its just easy to assume

because greek is on EARTH

everything relates to greek history

why would another race use these terms

[stuck umbra]

Sure. Culturally we're all a product of ancient greece, and those roots always show up in all creative works. That doesn't mean that the universes depicted in those creative works must include Earth, or Greece for that matter. :P

[fresh garnet]

the simulation is just a programm writen by humans and programmed with mathematics and programm language known on earth

the evidence is everywhere

humans doesnt know it better...and thats why all this hints and stuff is in the game

[stuck umbra]

That's an assumption that I'm not ready to make without in-universe proof. One might argue that a simulation created by humans would include at least one species that at least vaguely resembles humans. None of the four races known in game are even sort of human, only humanoid, and in my opinion the jury is still out on the Anomaly race until I can see what sort of face lies behind those helmet visors.

[fresh garnet]

its a programm..u are human but u play an geek...does this mean u are not human?

the souls need something to do..

they are geek and korvax and vykeen and wanderers and sentinels....all human souls uploaded to this ARC not knowing what they are because of the loop

korvax want believe (religous) and are peacful .. the sentinels do everything was the leader says..(soldiers) the geek are the aggressive ones who try to take over...everything is like in real life

humans never change

not even in an alternate reality

[vague oriole]

What do you have against geeks? What have they ever done to you? 😂

[glossy sage]

the atlantid sphere things look awfully similar to the type B space stations......,,,,...

[waxen void]

I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
I wonder if the next update or expedition down the line will be us using that as the core for those Type B Space Stations. 🤔

[glossy sage]

even more interesting is that the encoded text from them refers to them as lifeboats

[young turtle]

they remind me of those emergency civilization pods you sometimes find

[glossy sage]

i see

[waxen void]

Exactly, I wish we could save them, I've come across a few of these, they're so neat.

[split kite]

What is that

Can you land on/in it?

And more importantly... does it have tea

[young turtle]

No

[stuck umbra]

||hidden text: our own ownvergence||

[young turtle]

Dumb corrupted sentinels can’t even spell right

[fresh garnet]

"OUR OWN VERGENCE"

here are some number from the interceptor update...the autophages on the planets...

2 3 7 43 13 53 5 6221671 38709183810571 139 2801 11 17 5471 52662739 23003 (Euclid-mullen sequence)

5 34 65 111 175 260 (Magic constant)

3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 144 233 (Fibanacci Numbers)

1 3 7 9 13 15 21 25 31 33 37 43 49 51 63 67 (Lucky numbers?)

70 836 4030 5930 7192 7912 9272 10430 10570 10792 10990 11410 11690 12110 (Weird Number)

[young turtle]

THE NUMBERS

WHAT DO THEY MEAN

[fresh garnet]

2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 31 37 41 43 47 53 59 61 67 71 73 79 83 89 97 (Sieve of Eratosthenes)

these are all mathematic logics /rules/ techniques used on this planet mother EARTH

i just see that as a proof that the autophages are earth/human related like everything else

[young turtle]

Perhaps so

[fresh garnet]

and all that stuff is used in the rosetta code

[waxen void]

I saw this too and forgot to screencap it but what do those numbers mean, I swear I see them when I mod Skyrim or tamper with game files but I forget where exactly.

[fresh garnet]

yeah they are needed to programming i guess

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code

[young turtle]

So how are these related to the arg

[fresh garnet]

the autophages tell u these numbers for a reason

[young turtle]

Hmm

[waxen void]

Whenever we I think either recieved or got a blessing the Autophage Life Pod would appear and give a string of numbers in our dialogue box as well as numbers on the ships internal screen when you see it.

All of them write out a sentence which is now posted in the pinned comments. Its as far as we've gotten outside what the bugs screech which is another reference to the Void Mother/Abyss

[stuck umbra]

0x means "what follows is hexadecimal" in the C programming language and derivatives, so that's probably why it seems familiar

[waxen void]

Ah ok, I don't suppose they're actually named files in the actual game we can datamine and sift through?

[stuck umbra]

Doubtful.

[young turtle]

Imma have brunch rn
When I get home I’ll hop on the expedition

[fresh garnet]

did anyone put the sound files from the atlas seeds in an sound converter?

[stuck umbra]

I don't think it was posted here yet, tho I think most users here will have figured it out by now, the message from the 'discovered by' usernames is: 77 65 77 69 6c 6c 62 75 69 6c 64 6f 75 72 6f 77 6e = ||we will build our own||

[young turtle]

let the expedition

COMMENCE

[vague oriole]

PC i’m guessing?

[young turtle]

[vague oriole]

[vague oriole]

I thought it still hadn’t released on console

[young turtle]

it released a few hours ago

[vague oriole]

Time to disappear for a few hours then

[vague oriole]

never mind, still waiting

[vague oriole]

It was posted yesterday but it’s so difficult to keep track of any new discoveries

[stuck umbra]

Missing the We from the first autophage. :P

[rigid gulch]

Any new developments?

[young turtle]

not sure

[edgy isle]

What are you smoking

[glossy steppe]

Okay so a quick thought

An atlantid is a statue used on (or instead of?) columns, where the figure is made to look like they're holding the building up

That's pretty similar imagery to Atlas in Greek mythology, who holds the world on his back

[fresh garnet]

i dont smoke. a autophage give these numbers

atlas in mathemathic is the way to find a certain spot.

[somber prairie]

hm, makes sense thematically

[empty kelp]

This is probably not important but yesterday, @young turtle said that the voice in the trailer saying "I've seen things" is a reference to blade runner, I just looked at that quote and it mentions Orion, who is a Greek god.

[dusk thorn]

do the 0x codes have any decipherable meaning?

[empty kelp]

those are hexadecimal (I think)

[crystal scroll]

I'm sorry, what are the Atlantid?

[young turtle]

basically ||the fragments of korvax prime||

[sturdy python]

I've seen things...things you would not believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time...like tears in the rain.

• Rutger Hauer as Roy Batty in Blade Runner
  They had him do the voice over for the trailer. It was originally used for the living ship update though iirc
  nvm, it was a launch trailer trailer as well

[sour nexus]

Wait so if there are new fragments then that means its being resurrected/remade?

[empty kelp]

Or the new Atlantid was also destroyed

[sour nexus]

Oh yeah

[somber prairie]

the first rendezvous i got said "The ninth: 1001000"

at the robot corpse

1001000 is H in binary

[sour nexus]

That sounds like normal autophage dialogue

There are 1-12 plus 17

Want me to spoil what the 12 say or nah?

Not that crazy tbh

[somber prairie]

o so thats the void mother one

[sour nexus]

Yes

[somber prairie]

the game crashed immediately after

lol

[sour nexus]

Void mother is op

[stuck umbra]

Some do. #nms-arg-2023 message

I tried translating the ones from the 'scan memory' option on the expedition autophages and those seemed like gibberish.

[dusk thorn]

interesting

[stuck umbra]

That decoding was not a typo btw. :P It wasn't convergence.

[trim granite]

can these purple codes be translated? doesn't seem to be hexadecimal

[stuck umbra]

I just linked the translation. Whatever you're using probably dislikes the 0x, which just means 'this is hex'. #nms-arg-2023 message

[trim granite]

thanks

[stuck umbra]

So far the messages seem to be ||We do not need you. We will build our own. Our own ownvergence.||, plus all the VOID PRIME stuff, and ||What is this place?|| from the item you get in the anomaly. @trim granite

[trim granite]

has this audio been figured out?

i thought the spectrographs were from the hidden audio files found in the Mac update

[scarlet kernel]

Wait, the thing make a sound!?

I was not aware

[sturdy python]

All of them do

Sounds like pokemon growls lol

[scarlet kernel]

Heckie

I suspect there's spectrograph stuff hidden within those too

the spooky noises in mac release datamine turned out to be from Atlas

[placid phoenix]

I think the noises from the mac datamines were the same noises that come from the seeds resonate option

[trim granite]

that would make a lot of sense

[placid phoenix]

To me it seems pretty clear that all of this is leading to the atlantids/crimsons being added to the game as a new race, at least imo

[trim granite]

not sure if this counts as part of the ARG, but this thing has a coded message as well. I think it'll update what it says as the community makes progress. Translates to: "what is this place"

[restive citrus]

Especially with ||the data mined npc||

[broken trout]

I've been loosely following the plot but a few things are still weird to me
Korvax prime somehow corrupted into the abyss and is now trying to take over the universe from the Atlas?
And someone mentioned the progenitor species that built the atlas?

[hollow sleet]

Yeah sort of, and now these old fellas are coming back thanks to the crimson corruption

And don't want to be part of the korvax convergence

(they can't anyway)

[dusk thorn]

the crimson isn't really a corruption though, is it? crimson is the Atlas

[snow rampart]

Hey folks, updating the codex ARG log, have I missed anything? https://arg.atlascodex.space/

[upper glade]

One mention of VOID PRIME:
#nms-arg-2023 message

[keen oak]

I wonder if they're gonna involve ol' Telamon in this ARG later on

cause he seems relevant, with Laylaps talking to him about glass and whatnot

[snow rampart]

Thanks, do you know if that one has been discovered in-game, without being data-mined yet?

[upper glade]

No, I don't

Though considering some clues involve data mining the files for sound files and processing them, I don't see much difference 🙂

Thank you for the site, btw

[snow rampart]

Yeah, i'm in two minds about it. I wonder if the audio files were left in the mac build by accident... seeing as you're now able to access them in-game without datamining 🤔

[upper glade]

Yeah, it's a conundrum

[still cipher]

mannnn

what if its like

the korvax prime but still alive idk

[dusk thorn]

that's pretty well-known at this point, no?

[waxen void]

Has anyone else seen this at all, I feel like this is just weird schizo posting for this NMS ARG but I don't know https://twitter.com/GlimKami/status/1667092077346185216 🤔 you can never tell with these things because people just go off the wall on speculation and melding it into fanfiction

GlimKami (@GlimKami)

𝐢𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 geometry, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐞𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐭 𝐨𝐟 life with 𝐍𝐌𝐒 font, I think. This is all I know and it is encrypted, I hope you can understand me. This is my bet for what will possibly be the biggest revelation. I will post more images later #NoMansSkySpoilers #NoMansSky

Twitter · Jun 9, 2023, 8:51 AM

[scarlet kernel]

Just some of their personal interpretation. Not related to the ARG

[icy dome]

Idk if this is what you mean or not but VOID PRIME was on the ship computer when the the anomaly that gives you an echo seed shows up

[waxen void]

Ok, saw some other ones similar to it and wasn't sure if it was part of the ARG or something new from the expedition

[snow rampart]

Perfect, thanks! I’ll get that added shortly

[keen oak]

does anyone know if the changing numbers and letters that show up everywhere mean something or are just random?

[signal spear]

They seem similar to the codes that flash when you do the anomaly scans.

[waxen void]

Did anyone copy paste the numbers we get behind that dialogue box? You see them when you come across the corrupted life pods

[rigid gulch]

2 5 52 96 120 124 146 162 188 206 210 216 238 246 262 268 how can I decode this? What can I use?

[keen oak]

where did you get this series of numbers?

plugged it into hex and just gibberish, neither is it a registered series on https://oeis.org/

[rigid gulch]

One of the autophages

On the first planet

I recently started the expedition

[keen oak]

hmmm... im not sure

i think its been decoded before

[young turtle]

the code seems familiar

[keen oak]

maybe it's related to this? #nms-arg-2023 message

[rigid gulch]

Maybe

[keen oak]

although im not sure

it also could be this, https://oeis.org/A005114 but it doesnt match up perfectly. there are some numbers missing from what you sent when compared to the full series on oeis

[keen oak]

though im not sure

[rigid gulch]

All good no worries

[plucky herald]

Surely people are really not doing this stuff

[young turtle]

what do you mean?

[trim granite]

What do you mean? Participating in a fun ARG puzzle for a game we enjoy?

[plucky herald]

Is doing that community event enjoyable to you? Shocked I am

[young turtle]

i'm enjoying it

[trim granite]

The community event and the ARG are separate things. I can enjoy the fun puzzle solving involved in the ARG while completely ignoring the community event until HG auto completes it in a few weeks.

[plucky herald]

Can you find where I asked about the difference

Lol

It’s fine

You have fun

Just don’t talk to strangers unless the arg says so

And don’t scan poke stops in graveyards or alleys

.—.

[young turtle]

if you're not interested why are you here

[trim granite]

I dunno, you’re the one who posted in #nms-arg-2023 about the community event which arguably has nothing to do with the ARG side of the update

[plucky herald]

Still

[slate mesa]

dunno if this has been documented anywhere but i just got the following void prime message: ||Out of nothing she will rebuild us||

[keen oak]

i dont think ive seen this one before

[young turtle]

any new developments?

[slate mesa]

not really, no

(caps lock)

[somber prairie]

Its not encoded, those are untouchable numbers. From what i gather, they are positive intergers that cannot be the sum of the proper divisors of any number, excluding the number itself. For example, 5 is untouchable because there is no number that has proper divisors that add to 5, and that is the same for the rest of those numbers.

Fun fact about untouchable numbers, 5 is actually the only one that is an odd number

[drifting mica]

I got this:57 65 20 61 72 65 20 61 20 6C 69 66 65 6F 61 74
From one of the corrupted space thingies, anyone know if there's a way to decode it like the binary lines?

[somber prairie]

that is hexadecimal

[drifting mica]

Ty

[slate mesa]

it's ||We are a lifeboat||

[somber prairie]

yep

[drifting mica]

I just got thta thx

[keen oak]

man HG really do love their hex codes

[drifting mica]

Indeed

But it's a base 16 system which is probably linked to nms importance with the number 16

[keen oak]

yeah, but they COULD do rot16

[drifting mica]

What's that?

[somber prairie]

another cipher

[keen oak]

rotation cypher. like rot1 is A -> B, rot2 is A -> C and so on

[drifting mica]

Ah ok

So it's ceaser cypher

[keen oak]

iirc ceaser cypher is rot13

right? or am i mixing some stuff up

[somber prairie]

caesar cipher is any rot

its more broad

rot is just a more formal expression

[keen oak]

then i was mixing up stuff

good to know

[somber prairie]

plus theres also ones like rot47 which uses ascii too

harder to decode without being a computer

[keen oak]

fair enough

but i really think we should get stuff other then hex

spice it up

[somber prairie]

The hex is annoying to type for sure lol

binary is arguable worse

they used a bit of binary for the autophage messages

and they have been using a lot of mathematical number sequences

but the meaning of such sequences is yet to be determined

[icy dome]

Yea it’s VOID PRIME

[stuck umbra]

Yes. Its from the hex that shows in your ship comm screen during any space encounter with the atlantids. I had translated it independently before I realized someone had datamined it all already.

[stuck umbra]

I don't expect there will be a deeper meaning to the mathematical sequences. I see it as just a nod to how they got the planet generation to work procedurally, by using various math formulas to create distortions on a sphere and so forth. There were a bunch of interviews about it when the game was still in development / had just been released, if memory serves. That being said, that could still end up playing some sort of role in the lore, it wouldn't be the first time that out-of-game stuff influenced the storyline...

[somber prairie]

yeah that makes the most sense, no way to know for sure of course, the depth of this arg has yet to be established

not uncommon for args to be very bizarre in the way they hide clues

[trim granite]

You mean Prime numbers? I’ve never heard of “untouchable numbers.” Is that another name for primes?

[stuck umbra]

there's a metric boatload of colorfully named mathematical sequences, I'm fairly sure all the ones we've seen in game can be identified using https://oeis.org/ :P

[somber prairie]

most of the numbers on the list he mentioned arent even primes, since almost all of them are even.

untouchables are one of the many strange mathematical number sequences out there

[trim granite]

||You mean how the Artemis story is an allegory for how the game initially launched with no multiplayer and us trying and failing to meet up with them is a nod to players trying to meet each other in game prior to multiplayer? And how the breakdown in the Atlas sim is an explanation for how we’ve been able to interact more and more over time, starting as points of light before getting to the full on multiplayer we have now?||

[somber prairie]

i didnt know about them either until researching what the numbers might be

[trim granite]

This is why I didn’t pass Calculus in university. Lol

[somber prairie]

me neither friend

[stuck umbra]

||There are many many examples. For example, one of the Traveller dialogues is a Traveller that is trying to find Plutonium. That is, of course, a reference to version 1.0 when ships were fueled with plutonium, which is no longer even an element in game. This may hint at the idea that each game version may be, in fact, a separate entry in the Atlas 'multiverse' :P||

[icy dome]

||adding to that, I wonder if the "old versions of the game" or fragmented memory of atlas end up being corrupted by the void or the abyss since the abandoned space stations are the old space station models and they are infested.||

[floral tide]

I haven't finished the expedition yet, but I've been taking note of the glyphs that have needed to be used for each autophage and harmonic interface. I've been wondering if perhaps we could put those together at a portal, which would take us somewhere significant.

It's a string of 12 glyph characters - are there four autophage pieces for the expedition? That would give 12 characters...

[icy dome]

i think 5

[floral tide]

If it's 5, that would throw that off. heh

[icy dome]

|| head arm body legs core||

[floral tide]

Are there also five harmonic interfaces ?

Probably, since there's one at each place there's an autophage..

Well - blows that idea. heh

[icy dome]

|| Also every time we get an updated system such as customizable freighters (derelict freighters came out with that update) or new sentinel abilities (corrupt sentinels came out with that update) the old ones seem to get infected more or less. and with a lot of the dialogue with the void stuff saying they were forgotten, it kinda makes sense ||

[waxen void]

[somber prairie]

anyone notice that resonating the atlas seeds makes a sound? were those the sounds that were datamined?

upon listening to the datamined ones, they are indeed the same sounds

[slate mesa]

nobody's finished the expedition legitimately yet

one of the required milestones is tied to a community goal

[floral tide]

Something I noticed - I may have missed one, but so far, I have these from being at the rendezvous points:

"The Fourth: 1000100"
"The Ninth: 1001000"

Seems like if we can get "the First" "The Second" , etc...

1000100 = D
1001000 = H

_ _ _ D _ _ _ _ H

bah - didn't put all the underscores in. :/

[somber prairie]

it was figured out few days ago

the answer is in the pins

[floral tide]

Ah ok. I'm behind. heh

It's good to know what's solved though, so I can know I did find something, and then also know that there is a solution to it.

[waxen imp]

if you're wondering, they say VOID MOTHER

[somber prairie]

Yee

[waxen imp]

(the space stations in Korvax systems, when given Atlantideum, say I SEE HER)

[somber prairie]

most of the things to decode have been decoded

[waxen imp]

and that's about what the arg has so far

[somber prairie]

most dont lead much of anywhere other than giving us little lore tidbits about whats to come

[floral tide]

Usually when I hear "ARG" , I think it's going to lead me outside of the game. Which it doesn't sound like this has. At least not yet.

No website, no youtube video, document, etc..

[gaunt vector]

Once we hit the community milestone I think it will lead IRL

[floral tide]

That'd be cool. Hopefully we can get there. 🙂

[glossy steppe]

I mean it's probably not a fully fledged arg

They just said arg style clues tbh

[gaunt vector]

True we never know but we can hope. Waking titan was a really good time